1 1

2 2

3 Yeah, my Senator Sessions is pretty good.


You ain't got 'cause someone took from you!  Who did?  Democrats!

4 They don't care about this angle. I think it was tried before.

5 Makes sense-which is why the R's won't do it.  You have reports of Paul Ryan confabbing with Luis Gutierrez and telling him that it is unacceptable for Americans (ie. illegals) to be exploited.  You wouldn't normally believe such a thing, particularly since it came from Luis, but it's perfectly logical from the perspective of amnesty proponents.

6 Is anybody out there?

7 This.

8 gotta brag, that's my senator. Sen. Sessions has been the man since he went to the hill, and is the only reason I don't fully support term limits. If only we could get Squishy Shelby to ride into the sunset, so Jeff could be the senior senator, rather than the senior citizen that now leads the Roll Tide delegation on the hill.

9 Anyone who suggests regularizing 10 million foreigners while black male unemployment is 20+% is insane, a racist to boot.

10

The House GOP should do nothing with immigration.  Status quo baby.

11 Both of my RINO senators suck (TN). Even ME didn't garner 2 votes for the Go8 bill.  There's a movement here to get rid of Alexander next year, but it didn't work last year when Corscrew got reelected.

12

Waste of breath. Boehner and the rest of his lost-soul tribe have got "something needs to be done" fever. And the only cure is more Progressive-appeasing legislation.

13 Anyone who fights this WILL win back conservative votes that have been dwindling away regardless of how they oppose it.


Anyone who supports it like Ratshit Rubio and Ratfink Ryan will still get the 30% Hispanic vote and a drop of 15 to 20% in base support and votes.


If Republicans cave on this and help pass amnesty in any form they will never win another election.  In fact, they may  even start losing SC.

14

But  more importantly  how does this bill effect the Zimmerman verdict?

15 from an old Mary Tyler Moore episode:

Lou Grant: Ted, you know the way you are? Don't be that way.

Same lesson needs to be taught to the RINOs, who think that always coming in second is okay so long as they get to run the losing side.

16

The economy will never improve when the parasitic class in DC is syphoning off half of it.   See, Europe.   

17 Eh. If there's an argument to be made as the GOP plank, I'd rather it not be a protectionist one.

18 Zimmernan's going to jail for manslaughter, riots cnx'd

19 If I get a raise, I lose my benefits.  Why you racist women-haters wanna take away my benefits?!

20 Damn, what took them so long. The mid term elections should be about our economy and our citizens. If Donks want to whine about Mexicans to avoid talking about Obamacare, let them. UE 6 is 14%. The sting has been felt by everyone and no one in the Donk party has even addressed it. Bury the flatlander materialists for their failure to deliver the goods.

21 You know what else is a solution for "artificially high wages"? Cut taxes of all kinds at all levels drastically - esp. business taxes. Eliminate most if not all non-legislatively generated rules and regulations (i.e.. rules from OSHA, EPA, etc.) Cut all welfare to the bone so that people have to work if they want anything more out of life than to survive. Eliminate the capital gains tax. Cut government workers by 25-50% Open all govt land to tracking, coal mining, oil drill. Build nuclear power stations. Achieve cheap dependable energy to drastically lower energy cost. Then watch industry come back to the US because American workers are the best in the world and now the cost of them is much much much lower. And watch employment numbers soar. Yeah, I know. Not gonna happen. Instead, let's turn the US into a third world country with a rich oligarchy and a dead middle class. To bad the future for your kids and grandkids in gonna suck.

22 Breaking on FOx: Judge allows jury to consider manslaughter charges on Zimmerman.

23 What makes corporate Republicans think all these newly minted, uneducated, cheap labor citizens won't join unions as soon as they're legal?

24 If there's an argument to be made as the GOP plank, I'd rather it not be a protectionist one.

I would either but, you have to weigh the cost of an inefficient economy against a continued slide into totalitarianism.

25 Sessions used to be my senator. Now I have Tim Scott and Mark Sanford. I'd call it a slight trade down with the possibility of becoming a long term trade up.

26

18Zimmernan's going to jail for manslaughter, riots cnx'd

 

Then Zimmerman files an appeal and the case is thrown out. Riot avoided and individual right to due process badly injured.

27

<i>Eh.

If there's an argument to be made as the GOP plank, I'd rather it not be a protectionist one.</i>

 

 

If understanding that national security and national soverignty supersede making a buck is "protectionist", than call me a "protectionist".

Moreover, it is time to communicate the advantages of market economics and social conservatism to the working class. Rick Santorum, for all his other flaws, was and is spot on about that.

28 The only crisis that needs to be solved is the one that has been created by the abrogation of the laws. For instance, the 700 miles of fence that were authorized in the 2007 deal remain 95% unfinished and there has been no appropriations made to complete it. Its this sort of lawlessness that leads to crisis, but that is what they want.

29 I've been meaning to talk to my father about his opinion on this bill, but don't want to deal with his ranting. He's been an opponent of illegal immigration for as long as I can remember, but he watches MSNBC as his sole news source, absolutely loves Obama and all things Democrat, and blames Republicans for everything bad that happens in the nation.

There's gotta be some cognitive dissonance there.

"So the puny Republicans who are hated and opposed by the news media, entertainment industry, and education system are destroying the future of America. And the Democrats with support and money from every corner of our culture want to merge with Mexico... How do you feel about that, Dad?"

30 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

31 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

32 DREW The State was to convict GZ of child abuse

33 I would either but, you have to weigh the cost of an inefficient economy against a continued slide into totalitarianism. Posted by: toby928© rants populist at July 11, 2013 10:40 AM (codCi) Yeah, that's true. But why can't we simply make a free-market argument for de-regulation etc etc, as a precursor to immigration reform?

34 9 Anyone who suggests regularizing 10 million foreigners while black male unemployment is 20+% is insane, a racist to boot. - The revolution won't arrive till people openly say that white people have rights too.

35 Boehner has the very best of intentions!  How he arrived at them is open to question, unless the default RINO settings of stupid and corrupt is still valid!


BTW, I have come to believe that RINO really mean "Representatives In Name Only", because except for a few, like Sessions and Cruz, they sure aren't representing me and mine!

36 If understanding that national security and national soverignty supersede making a buck is "protectionist", than call me a "protectionist". Moreover, it is time to communicate the advantages of market economics and social conservatismto the working class. Rick Santorum, for all his other flaws, was and is spot on about that. Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 11, 2013 10:41 AM (ujg0T) That's directly misrepresenting what this post, and my comment, is saying. It's talking about labor costs and wages.

37 While some alleged conservatives think amnesty solves the "problem" of "artificially high wages" Wait. What? What "artificially high wages?" I never got *my* artificially high wages. Did you get *your* artificially high wages? OH! They mean the skewed wages that makes entry level labor too expensive, thus actually depressing wages, as you make do with fewer workers (note: the "minimum" wage is always 0).

38 OH! They mean the skewed wages that makes entry level labor too expensive, thus actually depressing wages, as you make do with fewer workers (note: the "minimum" wage is always 0). Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 11, 2013 10:45 AM (/PCJa) While I get what they're trying to say, if illegal immigration continues, which it would, then wages will actually be artificially low, like they are already.

39

<i>That's directly misrepresenting what this post, and my comment, is saying. It's talking about labor costs and wages.</i>

 

 

I understand that. However, if you don't see the link between immigration and what used to be called "blue collar" wages, you are in Jen Rubin WashPost Land.

40
How The GOP Can Oppose Amnesty And Win Votes....Economic Populism




The Republican Party nomenklatura is every bit as contemptuous of people who work for a living as the Democrats.

41

Not only manslaughter..... Legal insurrection says

"In a surprise move this morning, the prosecution asked the Judge to drop the Aggravated Assault charge and to instruct the jury on Third Degree Murder, which is murder in the course of committing a felony.

The felony the State wanted as the predicate was Aggravated Child Abuse because Trayvon Martin was 17 at the time of the shooting."

42

<i>While I get what they're trying to say, if illegal immigration continues, which it would, then wages will actually be artificially low, like they are already.</i>

 

 

OK, I see what you mean. This could be a teachable moment about how Obamunist economic regulation and taxation make the costs of business too high.

43 Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 11, 2013 10:41 AM (ujg0T) Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 11, 2013 10:44 AM (X4HxX) I think the "protectionist" argument is just fine- considering that it's the more correct of the two arguments being advanced. The problem is that most people don't pay attention. A "protectionist" argument is easy to grasp. "Oh, wages are lower and Amnesty will reduce them further!" plays well. It also happens to be true, if a simplistic explanation. All that stuff we believe is hard. People don't pay attention to it because "American Idol." So you go with the line people will hear. Once you've prevented this travesty (good luck with that. Fucking RINOs), THEN you might have time to start talking about First Principles and all that stuff.

44 I understand that. However, if you don't see the link between immigration and what used to be called "blue collar" wages, you are in Jen Rubin WashPost Land. Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 11, 2013 10:47 AM (ujg0T) Ok, as long as you're pointing out I'm correct I don't see what the issue of just pointing out that all these amnesty bills won't actually fix what they purport to.

45 Far too many people that I otherwise respect are buying into the "GOP will suffer if they block amnesty" camp. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised by bizarro-world reasoning in bizarro-world.

46 If we're gonna look at artificially high wages, let's start with President Obama.  That guy isn't worth a buck-three-eighty.

47 this fucking prosecutor in the GZ trial is evil--he has no interest in justice--he wants blood.

EVIL.

These are they type of guys that make me hate lawyers.

48 I can't believe that Republicans aren't at least trying to create leverage with the Black community, who will most likely be hurt the most by an influx of newly legalized immigrants.

49 But why can't we simply make a free-market argument for de-regulation etc etc, as a precursor to immigration reform?

Because it's not a winner.  We are so far down the ignorance slope that a natural minority party like the Republicans needs to become Nativist, Protectionist, and Demagogic to win.

50 The State was to convict GZ of child abuse

Posted by: Thunderb at July 11, 2013 10:43 AM (zOTsN)

Alinskyish:  Keep changing charges and venues until the desired result (or bankruptcy and/or suicide of defendant) occurs.

51 I was debating this with a lib I know. He had all the talking points down. I let him ramble and then asked him one simple question........... What do you think will happen to the unemployment rate especially for lower skilled workers when we add 11+ million legally hireable people to the workforce? He had no clue what to say.

52 "In a surprise move this morning, the prosecution asked the Judge to drop the Aggravated Assault charge and to instruct the jury on Third Degree Murder, which is murder in the course of committing a felony. The felony the State wanted as the predicate was Aggravated Child Abuse because Trayvon Martin was 17 at the time of the shooting." This is Flaming Skull worthy. If they wanted Child Abuse & Murder 3, they should have presented them at the Arraignment, so the Defense could prepare against them. They also should have tried to make the case for them. This is called "throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks" and it's a gross violation of the Rule of Law.

53 48 I can't believe that Republicans aren't at least trying to create leverage with the Black community, who will most likely be hurt the most by an influx of newly legalized immigrants.


The only explanation ... Democrats love poor people so much that they keep making more of them.

54

Economic populism?

 

An idea so crazy it might work!

55 Zimmerman was beating the crap out of Martin...with his face.

56

Just so she sees it:

From the last thread:  Got it.

Sweet beautiful Christ... That's... I mean, it's just....

Bunk. For the duration.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 11, 2013 10:46 AM (fwARV)

57 The GOP doesn't want to be on top. They want to be in a secure second place. They were on top in 1995 when they had the Senate and House, then they slowly returned both to the Democrats. They can't lead and don't want to lead.

58 26
18Zimmernan's going to jail for manslaughter, riots cnx'd

Then Zimmerman files an appeal and the case is thrown out. Riot avoided and individual right to due process badly injured.   -----   I've lost much of my faith. If Zimmerman goes up the river for anything, he ain't coming back.

59

I still don't know what is so difficult to understand that as long as businesses continue to hire illegal aliens we will have an illegal alien problem.   What the advocates of this bill are trying to do is give businesses a way to hire these same people.    And as others have pointed out,  this eliminates jobs for unemployed citizens.   

 

I am also tired of the canard that these jobs are jobs Americans won't do.  I concede that unemployed Americans won't immediately jump to some of these jobs but this is a aircraft carrier we are turning around and not a jet ski.   These positions would be filled by citizens eventually as both the employer and unemployed would adjust.   

60 Here's my opinion on the immigration issue. To all relevant Our Betters: Here. Let me grab you by your throat and haul you over to the Library of Congress and stand you in front of the US Code. See that? Contained therein are the current immigration laws that were duly passed by Congress and signed into law by the President of the United States. Enforce the laws that are currently in force first, you spineless like snotweasels, and then we shall see what occurs. Until that point? I don't want to hear another word out of any of your pieholes. You lied about enforcing those laws. As a result, I believe that you will lie about enforcing these. Also, can you stop it with eating broccoli? You know damn well why. Hatefully and what not, alex

61

So CBO is planning on 1/3 of Mexico moving here after amnesty?

 

Why have a border at all? To keep us out of Mexico?

62 How The GOP Can Oppose Amnesty And Win Votes....Economic Populism

 

 

Or, you know, they could just tell the fucking TRUTH,   of which   the    economic aspect is but one piece.

63
An exact number of Repubs will side with the Dems in the House and pass amnesty.  Its it and that's that.

Strikingly, wages are lower today than in 1999. Median household income has declined 8 percent.   This is purposeful, its harder to oppose the govt tyranny when you are scratching for food.

Both sides want a compliant populace so they may continue their graft and corruption.

64 Posted by: eman at July 11, 2013 10:52 AM (AO9UG)


Leadin' be hard work, yo!

65 28 The only crisis that needs to be solved is the one that has been created by the abrogation of the laws. - There is a more fundamental crisis. Continuous mass non-white immigration into all and only white countries plus forced integration means white genocide. It means that as a matter of policy, there is no future for white people. That's more fundamental than a revolution. It's the sort of change that happened in Haiti and is happening in Zimbabwe. This is why the anti-whites don't act with the restraint of people who realize "ultimately we will all still be here and we will have to get along". And it's why they don't care about laws. When you're abolishing a whole people, laws don't matter. - 28 For instance, the 700 miles of fence that were authorized in the 2007 deal remain 95% unfinished and there has been no appropriations made to complete it. - Right. Who cares? If you're going to eliminate white people, they don't need a fence. If you're going to wipe out the people who live in a house, they don't need a door, and you don't care if they've posted a "Rules of this House" somewhere either. - 28 Its this sort of lawlessness that leads to crisis, but that is what they want. - The anti-white establishment doesn't want a crisis. They'd rather win with no resistance at all.

66 Can somebody help me out here? -- We have some program on one of our computers that's treating Access windows like html pages and hyperlinking random words. What's going on?

67 I've lost much of my faith. If Zimmerman goes up the river for anything, he ain't coming back.

I'm mildly surprised he wasn't Dahmer'd before trial.  Was he in solitary confinement all these months?

68 You can take all these "how the GOP can.." and "what the GOP needs to do to win.." essays and recycle them as toilet paper and they'll have more usefulness to the world. The GOP as it is currently comprised doesn't have the moral or intellectual ability to understand even what you're saying. They have ZERO capacity to change. They are like the walking dead for all the chance you have of reaching them.

69

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 11, 2013 10:52 AM (fwARV)

 

*giggle!*

70 Can somebody help me out here? -- We have some program on one of our computers that's treating Access windows like html pages and hyperlinking random words. What's going on? Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2013 10:55 AM (KXm42) Access is evil?

71 It is my sincere hope that my Senators (Sessions is one, yay!) and House rep (Martha Roby, another good one) will eventually help form the core of a new, properly conservative party. They're wasted in the GOP.

72 OT Ms. Jenteal is the featured picture on the Bing home page today.

73 63 Both sides want a compliant populace so they may continue their graft and corruption. - They think brown folks are more compliant than white people.

74 Besides Access is evil.

75 <i>Because it's not a winner. We are so far down the ignorance slope that a natural minority party like the Republicans needs to become Nativist, Protectionist, and Demagogic to win.

Posted by: toby928© rants populist at July 11, 2013 10:51 AM (codCi)</i>

 

 

Sadly, THIS is spot-on.

 

 

 

<i>I think the "protectionist" argument is just fine- considering that it's the more correct of the two arguments being advanced.

The problem is that most people don't pay attention. A "protectionist" argument is easy to grasp. "Oh, wages are lower and Amnesty will reduce them further!" plays well. It also happens to be true, if a simplistic explanation.

All that stuff we believe is hard. People don't pay attention to it because "American Idol." So you go with the line people will hear. Once you've prevented this travesty (good luck with that. Fucking RINOs), THEN you might have time to start talking about First Principles and all that stuff.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 11, 2013 10:49 AM (/PCJa) </i>

 

 

And so is this.....

76 Hatefully and what not, alex

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 11, 2013 10:54 AM (VtjlW)

 

I have got SUCH a girlcrush.    

 

*pushes large plate of blondies and fudge brownies to AtC*

 

"Spineless little snotweasels."   Just... it's poetry.  Pure poetry.

77 *giggle!*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 11, 2013 10:56 AM (4df7R)

That thing is printed, and sitting in a drawer.  I'll frame it when I get home.

No.  I'm not kidding.

78 OT Ms. Jenteal is the featured pictureon the Bing home page today. Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2013 10:57 AM (vndrU) *golf clap* Nice.

79 71 It is my sincere hope that my Senators (Sessions is one, yay!) and House rep (Martha Roby, another good one) will eventually help form the core of a new, properly conservative party. They're wasted in the GOP. - Good thinking. There needs to be a party to oppose the destruction of the 90% white conservative base. And it needs steady people, not crazies. Senator Session is the sort of person you need, to be politically serious.

80 OT Ms. Jenteal is the featured pictureon the Bing home page today. I'm pretty sure that raaaaacist. Or something. Excuse me while I wipe this water off my computer monitor.

81 OT Ms. Jenteal is the featured pictureon the Bing home page today.

Have you no decency?!

82 <i>76 Hatefully and what not, alex
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 11, 2013 10:54 AM (VtjlW)

I have got SUCH a girlcrush.

*pushes large plate of blondies and fudge brownies to AtC*

"Spineless little snotweasels." Just... it's poetry. Pure poetry.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 11, 2013 10:58 AM (4df7R) </I.

 

 

Absolutely. She is charming with posts like that.

83 Won't new illegals work for lower wages than newly amnestied former illegals? If so, won't businesses continue to hire illegals? Will newly legalized criminals march in protest? Oh wait, I forgot Amnesty will create a force field around the US and no new migrants will be able to enter. Sorry.

84 Wait n/m. She's accessing the database through an intranet connection so maybe they are html pages. Never did it before though.

85 Why have a border at all? To keep us out of Mexico? Posted by: Invictus at July 11, 2013 10:54 AM

No need. Mexico has immigration/citizenship laws tougher than ours ever have been, and they enforce them.

It has always been the height of hypocrisy for Mexican government-types to whinge about how awful our laws are while they run roughshod over all non-Mexicans and even a few of their own. But the liberals get all teary-eyed when the latest Mexican mob boss cries for More Freedom For His Oppressed People.

Hell, they wouldn't even let Choom Boy emigrate there. Smart cookies!

86 Knock me over with a feather. Newest GZ news confirms the Fix Is In. He's screwed.

87

OK, a little cheesecake to lighten the mood.  Sorry for the low-res, but remember, I am at work.

 

Jean Harlow and her nipples  (SFW):

 

http://tinyurl.com/lsqhol7

88 I have got SUCH a girlcrush. *pushes large plate of blondies and fudge brownies to AtC* "Spineless little snotweasels." Just... it's poetry. Pure poetry. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 11, 2013 10:58 AM (4df7R) *blushes all demure like* *nibbles at blondies and fudge brownies* You know, for some bizarre reason, I just did not want to eat last night which is strange since food is way way way up there on my list of favorite things. The obvious is now ensuing and it appears that I will be having All The Things for lunch. A wiser person would have a small lunch and then healthy snack later. I am not that person.

89

OK, I see what you mean. This could be a teachable moment about how Obamunist economic regulation and taxation make the costs of business too high.

 

A larger point could also be  made that as the size of government increases, the  private sector suffers, directly and proportionally. Tie that to the Dims, and you have a good "big tent" argument that effects everyone equally: their finances.

 

No race, no special interests, no division.    Everyone suffers  equally   because of  big government.  This would be a great argument to make, but  it won't happen because Stupid Party.

90 This would be a great argument to make, but it won't happen because Stupid Party.

Don't forget because Stupid Populace.

91 Okay... Someone convince me that being a Productive Citizen is enough of its own reward to keep me at work past lunch. 'Cause, after yesterday and today- I'm not feeling it.

92 You know, for some bizarre reason, I just did not want to eat last night which is strange since food is way way way up there on my list of favorite things. Probably from all the guilt about thinking of sending the Ravage after me. Special > everything!!!

93

Something I never see mentioned is that business wants the illegals, legally, because if they don't have them they will have to hire local unemployed people. 

You know, the people desperately trying to get on permanent disablilty.

94

<i>A larger point could also be made that as the size of government increases, the private sector suffers, directly and proportionally. Tie that to the Dims, and you have a good "big tent" argument that effects everyone equally: their finances.

No race, no special interests, no division. Everyone suffers equally because of big government. This would be a great argument to make, but it won't happen because Stupid Party.

 

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 11, 2013 11:04 AM (0HooB) </i>

 

 

As highminded and noble as that is, Sessions' argument has to go forward first. As I pointed out in #75, the low information voters can't think that many steps ahead.

95 Why the fuck doesn't my line spacing, italics and hashtags work?

96 That thing is printed, and sitting in a drawer. I'll frame it when I get home.

No. I'm not kidding.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 11, 2013 10:58 AM (fwARV)

 

lol!

97 Okay...

Someone convince me that being a Productive Citizen is enough of its own reward to keep me at work past lunch.

'Cause, after yesterday and today- I'm not feeling it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 11, 2013 11:06 AM (/PCJa)

 

-- Cant help you on that one

98 Why the fuck doesn't my line spacing, italics and hashtags work?

Upgrade to AOSHQ Platinum today...and you'll also get 75 ampersands -- absolutely FREE!

99 The obvious is now ensuing and it appears that I will be having All The Things for lunch. A wiser person would have a small lunch and then healthy snack later. I am not that person.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 11, 2013 11:04 AM (VtjlW)

 

The world is going to hell in a handbasket.   Might as well eat what you want    before the Burning Times take it all away.

100 He said 'Imprimatur'! Everybody drink!

101 treating Access windows like html pages and hyperlinking random words.

Sounds like bug in some active-x control.  Some people rely on a file extension exclusively rather than kinda groping a file a bit to see what it really is.

102 Test

103

Someone convince me that being a Productive Citizen is enough of its own reward to keep me at work past lunch.

 

'Cause, after yesterday and today- I'm not feeling it.

 

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 11, 2013 11:06 AM (/PCJa

 

 

Yeeeah, i wish I could help you there, AllenG.   I came to work today bright-eyed and bushy-tailed to get some work done.   Then all this shit got retarded and I can't seem to generate the will to do anything but post at the HQ.

104 Posted by: jakeman at July 11, 2013 11:10 AM (96M6e)

#twoweeks

105
A wiser person would have a small lunch and then healthy snack later.

You should try CreepyAss Crackers. They're pretty good.

106 MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 11, 2013 11:11 AM (4df7R)

I've been flipping between this and Legal Insurrection since 9 this morning. I've done pretty much nothing else.

107 In the Constitution of the Recovering Republic ampersands will not be put in a corner.

108 Someone convince me that being a Productive Citizen is enough of its own reward to keep me at work past lunch. 'Cause, after yesterday and today- I'm not feeling it. I got nothin'.

109 Enforce the laws that are currently in force first

Yeah, I'm not feelin' it.  I'm just gonna ignore 'em and pretend you didn't say anything. 

110 Okay... Someone convince me that being a Productive Citizen is enough of its own reward to keep me at work past lunch. 'Cause, after yesterday and today- I'm not feeling it. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 11, 2013 11:06 AM (/PCJa) I got nothing. I'm not being a smart ass either, I am having a major problem convincing myself that work as merit in and of itself.

111 Yeeeah, i wish I could help you there, AllenG. I came to work today bright-eyed and bushy-tailed to get some work done. Then all this shit got retarded and I can't seem to generate the will to do anything but post at the HQ. I was afraid of that. On the up side (though only a little up side, because I hate having to ask my state for permission to exercise a Constitutional Right), the TXDPS website shows all my documentation is in order for my CHL. Still waiting on the Background check to finish, but there's a non-zero chance I'll have my CHL before I leave on vacation!

112

>> Why the fuck doesn't my line spacing, italics and hashtags work?

 

They are American.  You need Mexican spacing, italics and hashtags  if you want them to work.

113 Why the fuck doesn't my line spacing, italics and hashtags work?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 11, 2013 11:08 AM (ujg0T)

 

 

For line spacing, make sure to put  one or two extra carriage returns between paragraphs.    And it never hurts to put extra spaces between words if you've made any edits to the words around them.    It's one of the quaint little features of this antiquarian blog.

 

 

As for your formatting tags, you want to use square brackets [ * ] instead of angle brackets < * >.    BBS code instead of HTML.

114 No new immigration bills until ALL of the 1986 and 2007 bills have been fulfilled/enforced. Period. That is our comprehensive immigration bill. That is our compromise. It is insane to create new laws until the old laws are fully enforced.

115 Sounds like bug in some active-x control. Some people rely on a file extension exclusively rather than kinda groping a file a bit to see what it really is. Thanks Purp. Actually, I think they are html pages after all. She's accesses the database through intranet. Just never did this before.

116 I'm not being a smart ass either, I am having a major problem convincing myself that work as merit in and of itself.

 

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 11, 2013 11:13 AM (VtjlW)

 

 

I work in government.   Can you imagine how I feel?

117 I've been flipping between this and Legal Insurrection since 9 this morning. I've done pretty much nothing else. Posted by: Flyguy at July 11, 2013 11:13 AM (xLSO4) I went and worked out. It's safe to say I could thwart a Traytable. I'm watching this and I wonder how long before west gets frog marched to jail.

118

As highminded and noble as that is, Sessions' argument has to go forward first. As I pointed out in #75, the low information voters can't think that many steps ahead.

 

While we know politicians can't count, even LIV's can sorta understand that they don't have enough money.  I'm fairly certain that some enterprising individuals could put together some charts that prove my theorem   using...wait for it...Maths.

 

As for those "artificially high wages,"  WTF are those? The only ones I ever see are the CEO's of big-assed corporations and their multi-bazillion dollar   incomes.  Me? not so much.

 

I do wonder if, because of their salaries, they aren't about to price themselves out of the market.   You can't tell me Gubmint Motors isn't top-heavy when it  comes to pay scales.

119 Someone convince me that being a Productive Citizen is enough of its own reward to keep me at work past lunch.

These days, that's the definition of chump. 

Turning 3 hours of work into 8 is a learned skill for some people.  Unless you're in a union it might not come naturally.

120 The list of reversible error in the GZ trial just keeps getting longer and longer.

This it and embarrassment of legal process.

121

<i>112
>> Why the fuck doesn't my line spacing, italics and hashtags work?

They are American. You need Mexican spacing, italics and hashtags if you want them to work.</i>

 

Okay, now I need to clean keyboard and screen.... :-)

 

122 Actually, I think they are html pages after all. She's accesses the database through intranet. There's a virus on one of my computers at home (I've just been too lazy to clean it, I should probably do that this weekend) that does that.

123

Actually, I think they are html pages after all. She's accesses the database through intranet.

 

That's odd though.  I have the option of accessing one of my work's    databases through intranet, but it opens the database in the actual Access program, not in the web browser.  

124

Someone convince me that being a Productive Citizen is enough of its own reward to keep me at work past lunch.

'Cause, after yesterday and today- I'm not feeling it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 11, 2013 11:06 AM (/PCJa

 

You and me both, brother.  And this ties in with the discussion on the other thread about being too human (for lack of a better word) to outright Quantrill the left.  I often wish I didn't grow up with the dictum that you have to work to provide for your family and to have a house yuo could call your own.  If I had no shame, I would happily scam the state for disability or SSI or EBT or some such, sit on my couch eating potato chips and reading.

125 This it and embarrassment of legal process. Posted by: RoyalOil at July 11, 2013 11:15 AM (VjL9S) Z must feel how a black man felt when standing trial in the 1920's.

126 The truly nasty thing is the GZ trial may not be all that unusual. It's just well known, is all.

127 I'm watching this and I wonder how long before west gets frog marched to jail. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 11, 2013 11:14 AM (XIxXP) as I posted on the dead thread.. He pissed the judge off now. He is well and truly fucked.

128 <i>I work in government. Can you imagine how I feel?

 

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 11, 2013 11:14 AM (4df7R) </i>

 

 

You are a "civil service" Moron too? Although in fairness, I do have two side moonlighting jobs.

129 I think they are html pages after all. She's accesses the database through intranet.

Do the hyperlink targets seem to make sense, or are they just random shit?

130 Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 11, 2013 11:13 AM (VtjlW)

Have you learned nothing in your years around here?

Work has merit to the extent that it provides the ability to by alcohol, bacon and in your case, nice shoes with pointy toes and very high heels.

And guns and ammo, but that is axiomatic.

131 When discussing this issue Congress must also evaluate the current and future policies effects on gays, lesbians and transgender people.

132 Hey, I just   realized we didn't get a news dump this morning.   Anyone know where Ben is?

133 Z must feel how a black man felt when standing trial in the 1920's. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 11, 2013 11:16 AM (XIxXP) I think that's by design, don't you?

134 Might as well eat what you want before the Burning Times take it all away.

Don't forget your Ramadan bacon.

You've got until sunset.

135 curmudgeon, use square brackets.

136 Hey, I just realized we didn't get a news dump this morning. Anyone know where Ben is? Feeling the same way I am?

137 That's odd though. I have the option of accessing one of my work's databases through intranet, but it opens the database in the actual Access program, not in the web browser. Honestly, I barely understand this stuff. That may be how it is working.

138 Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 11, 2013 11:14 AM (XIxXP)

Arguing with the State? That's a demerit. Ten demerits and you have to go to the reeducation center.

139 Don't forget your Ramadan bacon.

Oooh, thanks for the reminder.  BLATs for dinner it is!

140 66 Can somebody help me out here? --

We have some program on one of our computers that's treating Access windows like html pages and hyperlinking random words.

What's going on?

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2013 10:55 AM (KXm42)

 

Well what happens when you click on one of those random words?  Does it bring you to some wierd search page?  Because if so, then virus.  And you should look up which virus sends you there so you can get it removed.

141 State has just made walking while white a provocation to assault or murder Sanford asks judge to announce verdict on weekday regardless of when it is rendered Tray tables parents not in court today. Prolly riot planning.

142 Does anyone understand the discussion taking place in the Zimmerman court just now?

143 120 The list of reversible error in the GZ trial just keeps getting longer and longer. - All you need is an honest judge to do the reversing.

144 curmudgeon, use square brackets.

Posted by: KG at July 11, 2013 11:18 AM (p7BzH)

 

Yes, Curmudgeon, use   [ ,] instead of < ,> around your formatting tags.  

145 Tray tables parents not in court today. Prolly riot planning. Posted by: Thunderb
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Or planning another around-the-world tour. Possibly shopping for a new Mercedes.

146 Oooh, thanks for the reminder. BLATs for dinner it is! Posted by: no good deed at July 11, 2013 11:19 AM (WmLrU) OOO, I have yummy thick sliced bacon in the freezer, Time to thaw.

147 Do the hyperlink targets seem to make sense, or are they just random shit? No they make sense. If the word is "job" it will hyperlink to employment ad. frinstance

148 All you need is an honest judge to do the reversing.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 11, 2013 11:20 AM (/+EhN)

 

So GZ is doomed is what you're saying.

149
Wow.  I never saw an actual 'Show Trial' before, just read about them in history books and such.  And right here in the good ol USA.

The fucking govt was paying people to protest against an 'innocent until proven guilty" citizen.  We live in police state.

150 I got nothing. I'm not being a smart ass either, I am having a major problem convincing myself that work as merit in and of itself. I have to work. As a SWM with no kids I didn't win the Gender/Racial Largess Lottery of Free Shit.

151

curmudgeon, use square brackets.

Posted by: KG at July 11, 2013 11:18 AM (p7BzH)

Test. Sometimes I guess I should have been a programmer and not an accountant......then again, I remember being so frustrated with it that I threw a monitor out a window.

152 The fucking govt was paying people to protest against an 'innocent until proven guilty" citizen. We live in police state.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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Why..., it's almost like pre-war Germany.

153 There are standard written jury instructions that everybody has. They are codified and numbered. Lawyers get notice from the judge what instructions she intends to read, and the sides offer instructions on what they think need to be covered. The lawyers also write "special" instructions, based on the specific facts of the case. That's what they are arguing over.

154 No they make sense. If the word is "job" it will hyperlink to employment ad. frinstance

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2013 11:21 AM (KXm42)

 

Ah, sounds like she's viewing it in a browser.   You'll get those kind of links in online articles and whatnot, where a random word will be linked and   hovering over    the   link will    pop   up an    advertisement related to that word.  

 

You     still want to check for a virus, though.   If it wasn't doing that before, it's worrisome.

155 Does anyone understand the discussion taking place in the Zimmerman court just now? No one understands the words coming out of her mouth.

156 So GZ is doomed is what you're saying. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 11, 2013 11:21 AM (4df7R) I don't think anyone is saying that, but they are taking something that is cut and dry and making convoluted.

157

Tray tables parents not in court today. Prolly riot planning.

 

Or practicing their "justice for Trayvon!" screams.

158 Did she just rule for the defense again....I missed it?

159 Did she just rule for the defense again....I missed it? Posted by: Tami at July 11, 2013 11:25 AM (X6akg) Prolly, it's been SOP.

160 Why..., it's almost like pre-war Germany.

 

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 11, 2013 11:23 AM (aDwsi)

 

Except the Jews could escape (usually).  Where are we going to go?

161 These days, embedding browser'ish things in apps like Access is easy and a lot of apps do that to leverage the formatting and rendering capability of HTML and XML for presentation rather than do it the old school WinAPI/MFC/etc way.

Using HTML/XML buys you conforming auto-size/positioning of buttons, controls, etc for different screen or display windows sizes, as well as auto-skinning of different display themes and colors schemes. 

Most phone/tablet apps are written using this kind of paradigm (which is why they can auto-adapt to the device's orientation with no changes to their base code)

162 142 Does anyone understand the discussion taking place in the Zimmerman court just now?
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Yeah.

Near as I can tell, the state wants this circumstantial evidence instruction to blur the line and hide the fact that the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt."

I think the state wants to use it in a way to allow "preponderance of the evidence" e.g. 51%.

The defense wants to use a version that says, "circumstantial evidence isn't enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt."

That's what you need to pay attention to here: The state has never tried to argue beyond a reasonable doubt--all they've done is "here's a few facts we'd like you to focus on and from that you're allowed to guess what crime was committed."

163 149
Wow. I never saw an actual 'Show Trial' before, just read about them in history books and such. And right here in the good ol USA.


The fucking govt was paying people to protest against an 'innocent until proven guilty" citizen. We live in police state.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2013 11:22 AM (/tUlE)

I don't just call them "Commiecrats" for rhetorical pizazz. This is Stalinism. 

164 One way to get reversed on appeal is to screw the defense on instructions. So far, she has been pretty fair on instructions. However, she should have given the special instruction that following to report to police is not provocation. It's an issue in this case, and the State is going to argue it, no matter what they say now.

165 Nood up.

166 I think the state wants to use it in a way to allow "preponderance of the evidence" e.g. 51%.

Silly me.  I thought this was a straight up criminal trial, not civil.

167 BLATs for dinner it is!

Bacon, lettuce, avocado, tomato?

168 She is not going to give state child abuse because he did not have intent to injure a child

169 Bacon, lettuce, avocado, tomato? Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer and a cheeseburger at July 11, 2013 11:31 AM (/kI1Q) Oh hell to the yeah.

170 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 11, 2013 11:21 AM (4df7R)

Beat me to it.  The judiciary has become infested with "living law" advocates, and we will not survive as a republic.

171 She is gonna rule against the state on that

172 Yes, HeatherRadish.

173

They are American. You need Mexican spacing, italics and hashtags if you want them to work.

And some of them have to be upside down.

174 Z must feel how a black man felt when standing trial in the 1920's.

Bottom rail on top, Massa.

175 The problem is the GOP and Dems have a shared interest in open borders.  They just have different reasons for wanting them.  The old joke is that Democrats want Mexicans to come here to vote and not work, while Republicans want then to come here to work but not vote.

The real problem is it's not 10,000,000 illegals on a path to citizenship.  By the time the families are repatriated, it'll be more like 35,000,000 new Americans who seem quite tolerant of socialism, fascism, and communism, if Latin American politics is any indication.

176 "Z must feel how a black man on trial felt in the 1920's" Day's right, cracka. You people haven't suffered enough, remember? Only 350 years to go, suckers.

177 But American corporations are posting record all time high profits. If you are a capitalist, a real capitalist, what you are interested in is the accumulation and preservation of CAPITAL. And that sure as hell is happening with the top 10%. When wages are low profits go up ! So let us keep the minimum wage low, and crush all unions. That is the way to keep profits UP. American corporations are sitting on TRILLIONS they will invest them in developing markets where labor and administration costs are the lowest.

178  No doubt obama and his minions are busily looking into all the data they've illegally collected from multiple sources to find whatever dirt they can on republican congressmen in order to force them to vote for this blatant vote buying bill..

179 Posted by: occam at July 11, 2013 12:22 PM (gsGrA)

And yet you voted for TFG.  You're one confused numbskull, clarence.

180 also racist

181 This "economic populism" has been a long-time theme of Pat Buchanan and it might now be starting to make sense.

I say that because globalism has been beneficial to many Americans, but not all.  A retreat from the most extreme parts, especially labor movements across national boundaries, is starting to become a necessity both here and in the EU.

Every good idea has it limits.

182 Jeff Sessions is my favorite Congresscritter, and if you gave me the sole power to pick the next two-term president he'd prolly be my first choice, fwiw.

183 A smarter um government would fix these um problems.