November 25, 2013
— JohnE. Pure Coincidence.
From Obama's own website which shockingly, actually works:
This holiday season, millions of Americans have a chance to get quality, affordable health insurance—many for the first time. If you have family members who are uninsured, you can play a big part in helping them find coverage that works for them. It might not always seem like it, but your family listens to you. So have the talk.He's actually encouraging people to print up these lying points and to, I don't know, recite them at Thanksgiving dinner? This sort of flies in the face of his reassuring back-patting and confidence in you being your family's healthcare policy expert if you have to rely on pathetic propaganda you printed up. It's got pretty colors and paint-by-number instructions, so maybe this shit will fly over at the kids' table, but I wouldn't be so quick to try this in front of adults. Hungry and varying degrees of intoxicated adults who just want to watch football and be left alone.
If you can't catch the Chris Hayes "how to talk to conservatives about Obamacare at Thanksgiving dinner" special, don't worry, the same thing has already been printed in a number of newspapers and magazines across the country. From WaPo: A guide to surviving Obamacare debates at Thanksgiving
That's the part of the health-care law that isn't working. But in some states that built their own insurance marketplaces, Obamacare is working--and the health law is meeting enrollment projections. California, for example, has signed up 80,000 people for coverage and Washington has enrolled nearly 12,000. These examples are limited, but the suggest that the problem isn't with demand but a technical one. We won't know whether this is true everywhere, though, until HealthCare.gov is fixed.Yeah, go with that.
Next up, Huffington Post, who is not even trying to hide what side of this debate they're on: Here's Every Argument You'll Need To Win Your Obamacare Debate This Thanksgiving
We've all got a crazy uncle we love. He might not even technically be an uncle -- it's not something the family likes to get into -- but he's there at Thanksgiving every year just the same, getting heavy handed with the 1.5-liter wine bottle, insisting on calling the dog "bitch," starting with off-color jokes that made people uncomfortable even before the country "evolved" and finishing with a tea party-inspired screed about the Kenyan in the White House. We'll call him Uncle Hank.Your plan sucks Uncle Hank, you dumb slack-jawed hick. Get over it.
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Those plans were terrible anyway -- high deductibles, no hospital coverage, dropped you if you got sick, etc. It wasn't insurance if you actually needed it. Cite an example from a family member here who's gotten screwed by an insurer. Shouldn't be hard to find.
Slate jumps in as well. They're not content with just bringing up Obamacare, they actually want you to fight about it: How To Pick a Fight With Your Relatives This Thanksgiving
2) Getting Started. First off, you should wait until everyone's seated at the table before you try to get things started. That way you have a captive audience that has to watch the fireworks, and everyone is settled in for a nice long time. Getting the topic of conversation to politics shouldn't be too hard. Stick to short, sarcastic, tendentious remarks to get things going. "I'm thankful for all that free stuff Obama gave me." Once you've engaged the enemy, it won't take much effort to pivot to whatever particular subject you feel most comfortable with. A good Thanksgiving skirmish will scamper from topic to topic wildly and without warning, but it's best to begin by digging into one particularly contentious subject to get tempers flared."Get in their faces". I remember someone saying that once.
There are others out there, even in local papers like the Denver Post and the Pittsburgh Courier. I'm sure there will be more before Thursday. But what if you don't feel like talking about Obamacare, what with the steady, embarrassing and collapsing failure and all? Well don't you worry one bit, because there are other liberal causes you can awkwardly bring up as well! Michael Bloomberg wants you to start talking about gun control, for instance.
Lovely people, aren't they? And of course, all coincidental.
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 12:38 PM (olDqf)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 25, 2013 12:39 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Ceasar Milan at November 25, 2013 12:40 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Connie at November 25, 2013 12:40 PM (kdfQ/)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 12:40 PM (olDqf)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 25, 2013 12:41 PM (VtjlW)
It's like being in a 15 round boxing match. My legs are rubber and I am not quite sure where I am. I need a break.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 25, 2013 12:41 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 25, 2013 12:41 PM (FC8Yl)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 12:41 PM (olDqf)
Posted by: Connie at November 25, 2013 12:42 PM (kdfQ/)
Posted by: Ammo Dump at November 25, 2013 12:42 PM (GgPam)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 12:42 PM (olDqf)
Posted by: MTF at November 25, 2013 12:42 PM (B5y+v)
Posted by: YIKES! at November 25, 2013 12:43 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 25, 2013 12:43 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Connie at November 25, 2013 12:43 PM (kdfQ/)
Posted by: David Brooks at November 25, 2013 12:43 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: toby928© blurts at November 25, 2013 12:44 PM (QupBk)
How come your slacker ass never tried to get insurance before Benghazicare?
Actually I'm convinced only the most radical , brain-washed syphocant will try to defend Obamacare. Its indefensible.
Posted by: polynikes at November 25, 2013 12:44 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 12:44 PM (kkbgQ)
Posted by: Debbie Wasserman-Schlitz at November 25, 2013 12:44 PM (B5y+v)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at November 25, 2013 12:44 PM (lV+2O)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 12:44 PM (t3UFN)
We're open Thanksgiving, Mr. President!
Posted by: Man's Country Chicago at November 25, 2013 12:44 PM (/1ATA)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 12:44 PM (olDqf)
Those plans were terrible anyway -- high deductibles, no hospital coverage, dropped you if you got sick, etc.
So use crappy obamacare as an example of why obamacare is good? Ok, then.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 25, 2013 12:44 PM (iGPSR)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 25, 2013 12:44 PM (BXo5H)
Posted by: Saber Alter at November 25, 2013 12:45 PM (8V74Y)
Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 12:45 PM (kkbgQ)
Posted by: Muad'dib at November 25, 2013 12:45 PM (KjlbF)
Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 12:46 PM (kkbgQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2013 12:46 PM (23Kgq)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at November 25, 2013 12:46 PM (r+7wo)
That phrase is the only truth in any of those spewings.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 12:46 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 12:47 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 25, 2013 12:47 PM (0FSuD)
And that's only because I was brought up better than that.
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2013 12:47 PM (fwcEs)
Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 12:47 PM (kkbgQ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 12:47 PM (olDqf)
Posted by: polynikes at November 25, 2013 12:48 PM (m2CN7)
Fuck you, liberals.
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at November 25, 2013 12:48 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: YIKES! at November 25, 2013 04:43 PM (mETGQ)
__________________________
Had a FB conversation with a Libtard cousin who was convinced that I lost my plan because it was crappy. I didn't even respond. I dumped them off of my FB contacts. Being willfully ignorant should be painful
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 25, 2013 12:48 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 12:48 PM (olDqf)
Good luck finding someone who can actually say that, fucking retards.
Posted by: Dang at November 25, 2013 12:49 PM (YWXTN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 12:49 PM (DmNpO)
Divide and conquer. That's all this regime stands for. For decades they've been destroying the families of the poor. Now they're targeting the middle class. Destruction is all they know.
Pray for this country on Thanksgiving. Pray for the awakening.
Posted by: Soona at November 25, 2013 12:49 PM (66ULQ)
Posted by: President Obama at November 25, 2013 12:49 PM (HsJeN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 12:49 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: BuckIV at November 25, 2013 12:49 PM (gedHR)
No, of course there was no goddamn coordination!
Of course not!
I just can't be that all this shit is coordinated, it has never happened in the many years of government and the media being one...
I mean, every saying Bush had no gravitas at the very same time, ACCIDENTAL.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Ed Shults, Esq at November 25, 2013 12:49 PM (xggaJ)
"When a man whose reputation has no substance achieves advancement, then there are heard sounds without bodily form and their origin cannot be comprehended"...Li Hsun
Posted by: Libra at November 25, 2013 12:50 PM (GblmV)
"When a man whose reputation has no substance achieves advancement, then there are heard sounds without bodily form and their origin cannot be comprehended"...Li Hsun
Posted by: Libra at November 25, 2013 12:50 PM (GblmV)
So...... THIS is what that pow-wow meeting with the liberal "movers and shakers" at the White House was all about????
Your work product........ sucks.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 25, 2013 12:50 PM (nELVU)
It will really end badly for my two lib sisters if they bring up politics at Thanksgiving dinner. Between my brother (Tea Party Ron Paul fan and history teacher) and myself, it will get very ugly for them very fast.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 25, 2013 12:50 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 25, 2013 12:50 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Chief Brodie at November 25, 2013 12:50 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Blue State Hostage at November 25, 2013 12:50 PM (JMt7S)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 25, 2013 12:51 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2013 12:51 PM (jCoeL)
I don't think I will argue this Thanksgiving day. I'll just smile, and wait or the bills to come in and the inevitable gnashing of teeth. Then I will smile more.
Posted by: West at November 25, 2013 12:51 PM (1Rgee)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 12:51 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 12:51 PM (kkbgQ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
That's good. Smashing grapefruit halves in their faces is better.
Posted by: James Cagney at November 25, 2013 12:51 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 12:51 PM (olDqf)
Posted by: no good deed at November 25, 2013 12:51 PM (HsJeN)
Posted by: The Liberal Media at November 25, 2013 12:52 PM (25HWz)
Posted by: YIKES! at November 25, 2013 12:52 PM (mETGQ)
Conversation over.
Posted by: Marcus at November 25, 2013 12:52 PM (GGCsk)
So...... THIS is what that pow-wow meeting with the liberal "movers and shakers" at the White House was all about????
Your work product........ sucks.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 25, 2013 04:50 PM (nELVU)
This phrase, "work product", I do not think it means what they think it means.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 25, 2013 12:52 PM (sQ0LB)
The ACA (I've always called it that) is working beautifully. I don't say that merely because of the drugs the Party has been giving me either.
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 25, 2013 12:52 PM (B5y+v)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at November 25, 2013 12:52 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: slick at November 25, 2013 12:53 PM (RIdwM)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 12:53 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: --- at November 25, 2013 12:53 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 12:53 PM (olDqf)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 12:54 PM (DmNpO)
Good luck finding someone who can actually say that, f*****g retards.
Posted by: Dang
I'm available. What's for dinner?
Posted by: Obamapho lady at November 25, 2013 12:55 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 04:51 PM (DmNpO)
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Good one.
Posted by: Soona at November 25, 2013 12:55 PM (66ULQ)
Posted by: Soona at November 25, 2013 04:49 PM (66ULQ)
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This. Times 100. I will be praying this Thanksgiving for exactly this. They are going to destroy the Middle Class family. When Ins premiums become just as much or more than your mortgage there will be strife. I am fearful because I don't see anyone that is really going to stop this from happening.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 25, 2013 12:55 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2013 12:55 PM (23Kgq)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 25, 2013 12:55 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: toby928© astounds and amazes at the dinner table at November 25, 2013 12:55 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 12:55 PM (olDqf)
Posted by: phreshone at November 25, 2013 12:55 PM (Pr6hk)
Still, it disturbs me how lazy conservatives are when it comes to outreach. Where is our side printing out talking points to bring up to family members? We always seem to be behind the ball because we don't eat, sleep, and breathe politics like the Left does.
Posted by: McAdams at November 25, 2013 12:56 PM (2TMCu)
Barry: And if any family members doesn't love BarryCare report them to AttackWatch and we'll send a commissar along to "convince" them how great it is.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 25, 2013 12:56 PM (1Jaio)
there is no family, there is only the state.
There is no Dana. There is only Zuul.
**Sorry, I just like the quote**
Posted by: pep at November 25, 2013 12:56 PM (6TB1Z)
I have no lib family to argue with so this Thanksgiving I will be riding the Mashed Potato Car on the Gravy Train to Turkey Town.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 25, 2013 12:56 PM (iGPSR)
Posted by: irright at November 25, 2013 12:56 PM (pMGkg)
Them: What's this? Freaking Spam and Poptarts? I drove 300mi for Spam and Poptarts!?!
You: Yep. Had to spend all that excess money buying an Obamacare policy. Enjoy.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 25, 2013 12:57 PM (Xlbr8)
Posted by: LIV's at November 25, 2013 12:57 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: ejo at November 25, 2013 12:57 PM (GXvSO)
Let me say that again; Katie Couric at Yahoo News.
Obviously her perkiness won't help on the intertubez.
Oh and that Anchor that's a weighing?
It's the one around your neck Katie.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 25, 2013 12:57 PM (LSDdO)
And remember- if they remain resistant to The Truth, be sure to report them to the Party Kommissar so he can help them get the re-education they need!
Posted by: Common Core at November 25, 2013 12:57 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 04:51 PM (olDqf)
I miss them all, Grandma, Grandpa, Mom, Dad, Husband, his sister, FIL, MIL...all of them. Thanksgiving should be about football and eating too much really good food. I am so very glad that the worst thing I ever had to endure was my FIL's pointless rants about college football.
OTOH, during the Christmas season, they is no quicker way to shut up an obnoxious pushy salesperson who chirps up, "That would be a perfect present!" than to look at them and say, "Don't need presents. Everyone is dead."
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 12:57 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 25, 2013 12:57 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: newton at November 25, 2013 12:57 PM (NtsQB)
Posted by: no good deed at November 25, 2013 12:57 PM (HsJeN)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 25, 2013 12:58 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 12:58 PM (olDqf)
Posted by: mary clogginstien's juicy clitoris at November 25, 2013 12:58 PM (ulWVw)
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(I kid, I kid.)Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 25, 2013 12:58 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 25, 2013 12:58 PM (GSSdy)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 25, 2013 12:58 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Your Liberal Relatives at November 25, 2013 12:59 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Havedash at November 25, 2013 12:59 PM (BMEZ0)
Posted by: backhoe at November 25, 2013 12:59 PM (ULH4o)
Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 12:59 PM (kkbgQ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 12:59 PM (olDqf)
Posted by: FenwayNation at November 25, 2013 12:59 PM (rlV5D)
Posted by: RWC at November 25, 2013 12:59 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: CheChe v.7.0 [/i] at November 25, 2013 12:59 PM (UL/Aj)
Why it's like someone filled their heads with shit, wound them up and pushed them in a direction.
They do actually realize that by releasing these talking points smart people have already read them and have substantive retorts.
Ya know, instead of topical propaganda that is provably fallacious.
Posted by: Marcus at November 25, 2013 12:59 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 04:58 PM (olDqf)
_________________________
I actually know the members of Lipps Inc and the writer of that song. He is STILL living off of it some 35 years later.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 25, 2013 01:00 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 01:00 PM (olDqf)
No, you fucking douchebag.. all the free shit I am giving you. Or, to put it another way.. all the free shit you voted for that Obama can confiscate from me to give to you, you fucking leech!
Now.. please pass the gravy?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 25, 2013 01:00 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Ktnxbye, now in Ptown at November 25, 2013 01:00 PM (RPDkq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 01:00 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: ejo at November 25, 2013 04:57 PM (GXvSO)
Because socialism.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 25, 2013 01:01 PM (AWmfW)
**Sorry, I just like the quote**
Posted by: pep at November 25, 2013 04:56 PM (6TB1Z)
Never apologize for a good quote. Especially from a Harold Ramis film.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 25, 2013 01:01 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 01:01 PM (olDqf)
Posted by: elaine at November 25, 2013 01:01 PM (GNZ0/)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 25, 2013 01:01 PM (0FSuD)
Think it also means they're scared to death that when family and friends get together people will share stories and piece together (if they haven't already) that it can't be the success that Obama and the Dems claims it to be if everyone around the table has been screwed one way or another.
Oh, and thanks for conspiring to ruin Thanksgiving with politics. This is a time to relax, eat, watch football, and oh yeah, be thankful. Hard to do all that when your one Lefty tool of a cousin/nephew/niece is spouting off talking points.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 25, 2013 01:01 PM (JRmiD)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 25, 2013 01:01 PM (GSSdy)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 25, 2013 01:01 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 25, 2013 01:01 PM (oFCZn)
I am thankful for.... the polling that shows America is finally finding out what a liar Obama is.
If I had a political family, that's what I would be thankful for at the table.
But I'm not so the darn kids and grandkids will get the nod again.
Posted by: petunia at November 25, 2013 01:02 PM (DAcBA)
ANd I might just be drunk enough to do it.
Posted by: Marcus at November 25, 2013 01:02 PM (GGCsk)
Boy, I hope that shithead editor at Bloomberg who wrote the execrable column about how the public's dislike of Obamacare means we're all jerks is reading this shit. What could be jerkier than turning a holiday feast into a mini Cultural Revolution?
Oh, who am I kidding...........
Posted by: radar at November 25, 2013 01:02 PM (eNZFc)
Posted by: Penfold at November 25, 2013 01:02 PM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 04:41 PM (olDqf)
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You should really re-watch "Prometheus" and give it another chance.
Posted by: Darth Randall at November 25, 2013 01:02 PM (Zswg6)
(I think you meant he gets a brownie - from Reggie)
Posted by: free tibet with purchase of one full price tibet at November 25, 2013 01:02 PM (Duk6G)
Anchors Aweigh! For Katie Couric at Yahoo News.
Let me say that again; Katie Couric at Yahoo News.
Obviously her perkiness won't help on the intertubez.
Oh and that Anchor that's a weighing?
It's the one around your neck Katie.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 25, 2013 04:57 PM (LSDdO)
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Is this the Katie Couric that dances so well?
Posted by: Soona at November 25, 2013 01:02 PM (66ULQ)
Posted by: marty bashir at November 25, 2013 01:02 PM (bMeMt)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 01:02 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 25, 2013 01:02 PM (0FSuD)
No matter how hard you try and no matter how often that other guy wins, you'll never pick out the Queen.
That's because the Queen is never there.
I said this before and always thought it was a good analogy and it's straight from the streets where he learned his "trade".
Misdirection, pleasing and amusing patter and a few shills to show how "easy" it is to win and the suckers line up to give you their money.
He doesn't even have to worry about the cops at this gig cause him and Eric are tight.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 25, 2013 01:02 PM (LSDdO)
Yup.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 01:03 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: RWC at November 25, 2013 01:03 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 01:04 PM (olDqf)
No it's not, prove it. 80k cali sign ups is clearly below projections.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 25, 2013 01:04 PM (WdbF7)
In other words, he's just the kind of caricature a regular HuffPo reader needs to feel superior to, well, someone.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 25, 2013 01:04 PM (8ZskC)
Shove old policy in his face, show difference from new policy in higher prices, higher premiums, coverage of shit you don't need
Then shove it's face in the mashed potatoes
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2013 01:04 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Reggie Love at November 25, 2013 01:04 PM (Pr6hk)
I told the hubby last night that under this Atrocity Care Act, children can stay under their parents' health insurance until age 26.
His jaw dropped. He has been working since age 16, and at 22 he begun his long-time career, the day after graduation. Everything he has, he has earned. He never dared to mooch off his parents in any way. He was not a happy camper after he heard that.
He's not the "Crazy Uncle" in the family - he's an only child, and he/we have only one niece, who loves us dearly. Her mother works at a major, world-class cancer research center: she is totally pissed off because of Obamacare. She knows what that is going to do to the vast majority of cancer patients - and to her own health as well.
So, at least I know quite a few people in my family don't buy anything these snake oil salesmen in the MSM are selling.
Posted by: newton at November 25, 2013 01:04 PM (NtsQB)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 25, 2013 01:05 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 25, 2013 01:05 PM (Xlbr8)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 01:05 PM (olDqf)
That simple enough?
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 25, 2013 05:01 PM (0FSuD)
Try this, fucked up democrat kid on anti-depressant drugs whose even crazier mother supplied him with weapons and ammunition... fucks up.
FIFY
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 01:05 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Katie Couric Once Perky Breatacles and Turn Cutter at November 25, 2013 01:05 PM (32Ze2)
Think it also means they're scared to death that when family and friends get together people will share stories and piece together (if they haven't already) that it can't be the success that Obama and the Dems claims it to be if everyone around the table has been screwed one way or another.
Oh, and thanks for conspiring to ruin Thanksgiving with politics. This is a time to relax, eat, watch football, and oh yeah, be thankful. Hard to do all that when your one Lefty tool of a cousin/nephew/niece is spouting off talking points.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 25, 2013 05:01 PM (JRmiD)
Bingo , that seams to be the plan , sabotage spontaneous truthful discussion about Obamacare.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 25, 2013 01:05 PM (AWmfW)
BTW, I changed providers today (FIOS), so my hash has changed.
Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at November 25, 2013 01:06 PM (Nk6GS)
Posted by: toby928© astounds and amazes at the dinner table at November 25, 2013 01:06 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 25, 2013 01:07 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Philadelphia Eagle Fan [/i] at November 25, 2013 01:07 PM (UL/Aj)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 25, 2013 01:07 PM (E7Zh9)
Posted by: Paul Wellstone at November 25, 2013 01:07 PM (2iHnw)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 25, 2013 01:08 PM (GSSdy)
And he's totally fucking up the implementation of the brilliant health care reform signed into law by the smartest POTUS ever.
It's a Festivus miracle.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 01:09 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: wiserbud at November 25, 2013 01:09 PM (NXg/k)
Ask ObamaCare troll to find "payment" button
Withhold dinner from him. If he whines how hungry he is, remind him he can have the fruitcake sitting in the closet
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2013 01:09 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: YIKES! at November 25, 2013 01:09 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: RWC at November 25, 2013 01:09 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 25, 2013 01:09 PM (6ahup)
These people are a real crass act.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 25, 2013 01:09 PM (GSSdy)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 01:10 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 01:10 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: elaine at November 25, 2013 01:10 PM (GNZ0/)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 25, 2013 01:11 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Fritz at November 25, 2013 01:11 PM (TKFmG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 01:11 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 25, 2013 01:11 PM (E7Zh9)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 25, 2013 01:11 PM (ya3AJ)
Great idea *opens Bing...*
One benefit of no longer spending Thanksgiving with my aunt (RIP) is that I won't be seeing my uber-Lefty cousin. He's become rabidly Left over the years, and he's exactly what you would expect: never married, just turned 50, gotten a couple of degrees but has primarily lived off his own trust fund plus the trust fund of his deceased brother. Can't stand being lectured by him about the way things work.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 25, 2013 01:11 PM (JRmiD)
Retort: "You don't have to con people into buying superior product that's less expensive. Ever. Those sell themselves."
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 25, 2013 01:11 PM (Xlbr8)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 05:10 PM (kXoT0)
Some animals are more equal than others.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 25, 2013 01:11 PM (AWmfW)
have a passport, dropped out at grade six, wears Farmer Johns, believes
in Jesus, lives in a trailer, fears foreigners and married his first
cousin. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 05:09 PM (ZKzrr)
Old Uncle Hank also has 50 cents of every dollar he ever earned and could buy everyone of the Liberals at the table for cash money.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 01:12 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Typical RINO at November 25, 2013 01:12 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 25, 2013 01:12 PM (GSSdy)
Posted by: polynikes at November 25, 2013 01:12 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 25, 2013 01:12 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 25, 2013 01:12 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Marcus at November 25, 2013 01:13 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 01:13 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 25, 2013 01:13 PM (E7Zh9)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis
.............
Is that what they call it these days?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 25, 2013 01:13 PM (f9c2L)
Well, the outer lips may extrude a little but I wouldn't call them fat
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 25, 2013 01:13 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 25, 2013 01:13 PM (0LHZx)
Barry: If you think this is bad, just wait till you see what I in store for
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 25, 2013 01:13 PM (1Jaio)
That will go over well right after grace is said.
Since Obama was elected, the work has been done for me. My formerly left-leaning relatives can't stand even mentioning Obama.
Posted by: Wendy at November 25, 2013 01:13 PM (4uSYN)
Posted by: Andy Dufresne at November 25, 2013 01:13 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Marcus at November 25, 2013 05:13 PM (GGCsk)
Ain't nobody got that much dried bread!
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 01:14 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 25, 2013 01:14 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2013 01:15 PM (fmjNz)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 25, 2013 01:16 PM (ya3AJ)
Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 25, 2013 01:16 PM (S5LPT)
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 25, 2013 05:14 PM (XUKZU)
Yeah, but, eventually, some rat bastard is gonna shove one of those worthless mouse traps down your yapper or up your crapper or both.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 01:16 PM (kXoT0)
Clearly he needs to share that wealth with the less fortunate, like the guy who quit a union teaching job to get his masters degree in puppetry and now can't find full-time work.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 01:16 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Penfold at November 25, 2013 01:16 PM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 25, 2013 01:16 PM (E7Zh9)
Posted by: Marcus at November 25, 2013 05:13 PM (GGCsk)
Ain't nobody got that much dried bread!
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 05:14 PM (kXoT0)<<
*******
Or that large a cavity for that matter...
Posted by: Marcus at November 25, 2013 01:16 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 01:16 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 25, 2013 01:17 PM (GaqMa)
The rest of my family is between 1200 and 8000 miles away.
And they're all conservative.
I'm a sad panda--no one to fight with to ruin the holidays.
I'll slip an off-colored joke in there if I can.
Right? 'Cause only the crazy uncle could possible be conservative?
Isn't that something? The Conceit, the Smug Conceit that only stupid, backward and crazy people are conservatives.
If I said something as equally stereotypical about a colored person, I'd be some sort of awful person.
But, there they sit, congratulating themselves on their ugly, unthinking bigotry.
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 25, 2013 01:17 PM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 25, 2013 01:18 PM (Xlbr8)
............
Well.. there's a lot to talk about there! with a good amount of grumbling added in.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 25, 2013 01:18 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: YIKES! at November 25, 2013 01:18 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: yankeefifth
I always counter with "It is the consensus of scientists that those people are wrong 99.7% of the time."
Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 25, 2013 01:19 PM (S5LPT)
What other kind of person gets on the OFA mailing list? I mean besides those keeping an eye on them for opposition purposes.
Posted by: Epobirs at November 25, 2013 01:19 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2013 01:20 PM (fmjNz)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 05:16 PM (ZKzrr)
Well, you can try to get some of Hank's Krugerrands, but, I don't advise it, them dogs is pretty mean and those traps have a hair trigger. You get past Hank, the dogs, and the traps, you still gotz to deal with Aunt Editha and if her corns is actin' up, well, you'uns will wish them dogs hadda get ya first.
Puppetry. Hmm, the hell you say!
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 01:20 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: USA at November 25, 2013 01:20 PM (VIaw0)
Posted by: Chicago Jesus at November 25, 2013 01:20 PM (gF7gm)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2013 01:21 PM (fmjNz)
Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 25, 2013 01:21 PM (QupBk)
We thank you that our President decided to hire Michelle's and ValJar's cronies to code that stupid O-Care website and they're so inept that the damn thing doesn't work yet and most likely won't for the remainder of the decade.
And Lord, please inspire our LIV friends to actually tune in to a valid news program once in a while to get a whiff of the turd that is Obamacare.
Thank you, Lord, forgive me for that, and bless all the Pygmies down there in Africa.
Amen
Posted by: Sphynx at November 25, 2013 01:21 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 01:21 PM (olDqf)
If you were inclined towards serial killing, that would effectively immunize your case from media scrutiny once you got caught. Might be a plus.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 25, 2013 01:22 PM (Xlbr8)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 01:23 PM (olDqf)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 25, 2013 01:23 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 25, 2013 01:23 PM (E7Zh9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 01:23 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Kreplach at November 25, 2013 01:23 PM (eiJIn)
Holy crap, sounds like my m-i-l, she got soused one Christmas day and went on a tirade about McDonalds and black people having high cholesterol because that is all they ate. Life long democrat. Pretty damn funny. I kept feeding her rope by providing helpful lines about how high in calories every thing is, and who really needs to drink a supersized soda.
Posted by: Penfold at November 25, 2013 01:23 PM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: cackfinger at November 25, 2013 01:24 PM (OsCtd)
Posted by: Teh Won at November 25, 2013 01:24 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: dumbartist...Ars longa, vita brevis at November 25, 2013 01:25 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: Darth Obama at November 25, 2013 01:25 PM (UZQM8)
Two men enter. One man leaves. It's Thanksgiving Thunderdome or Tuesday at Sandra Fluke's house.
Posted by: no good deed at November 25, 2013 01:25 PM (HsJeN)
Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at November 25, 2013 01:25 PM (lILC0)
Like so much else for years, the humor is no longer enough for me on this and other topics. My disgust and alienation are just too strong. I'm the public policy geek in the family - the rest are standard-issue Coastal Clueless types who are competent enough in their own spheres but utterly products of CBS News and NPR in their worldly "views". That is, increasingly out of touch not just with reality but history, common sense, and American values and sensibilities.
Don't know if the sister-in-law's extended family there will have been hit like I have (typical, already-a-bit-pricey bare-bones catastrophic plan cancelled, replaced by worse plan at TRIPLE the cost). I will be uninsured next year for the first time in my life - simply not going to bleed my financial situation further because of the idiotic fascistic dementia gripping the nation. I'm assuming most of the others there will be in the favored categories (public employees/retirees, group plans not yet affected, etc.).
Naturally I have been completely silent on anything relating to "politics" for decades - even deflect, smile/joke, change subject when one of the relatives says something particularly idiotic. Now, I wonder. The wife will not enjoy me delivering a 50 Megaton lecture/smackdown, so as usual decorum and being vastly smarter and classier than the others will tightly constrain me.
But if my (really nice and not generally speaking stupid, but a nightmare of clueless moral narcissistic authoritarianism) sister tries one of her prayers where we pray "for our country to do the right thing" (WTF?), like she did two months ago at a small extended family get-together, I'm not sure I can contain myself any longer.
I'm morbidly curious, though, about the sister's husband's situation, with a small family business he inherited. Things have got to be hitting or impending with him. But these are die-hard, very activist Catholics - who vote, exclusively and fiercely, for extreme abortion freaks and those seeking to shred the Constitution and impose morally objectionable requirements on institutions like the Church. Oh, and the sister hates teacher's unions - who basically run the state (CA), along with the few other public master, er, public servants' "unions".
Posted by: non-purist at November 25, 2013 01:25 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: dogfish at November 25, 2013 01:25 PM (nsOJa)
Yup.
http://is.gd/pesAdb
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 01:25 PM (ZKzrr)
Ok which moron got a little pinchy:
http://tinyurl.com/p8axsve
key line: the elf later reported “that Santa ‘pinched her butt.’”
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 25, 2013 01:25 PM (iGPSR)
Posted by: The White House at November 25, 2013 01:25 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 25, 2013 01:26 PM (bCEmE)
And please, no jizz jokes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 25, 2013 05:23 PM (olDqf)
Yeah, it's called "gravy."
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2013 01:26 PM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 25, 2013 01:26 PM (M8OWQ)
>>Two men enter. One man leaves. It's Thanksgiving Thunderdome or Tuesday at Sandra Fluke's house.
Help! Pass me a flashlight. Help me find my way out of this thing.
Posted by: Man in Sandra Fluke's Vajayjay at November 25, 2013 01:26 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2013 01:27 PM (PwTLl)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 01:27 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: dogfish at November 25, 2013 01:27 PM (nsOJa)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 25, 2013 01:27 PM (gF7gm)
We can find the keys to my truck and drive out of here.
Posted by: Penfold at November 25, 2013 01:27 PM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: toby928© beating memes to death since 2006 at November 25, 2013 01:28 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: toby928© beating memes to death since 2006 at November 25, 2013 01:28 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: John E. at November 25, 2013 01:29 PM (nRTou)
Just as your family says grace at the table, Joshua insists on whining about saying grace because he's usually the first to attack the rolls and stuffing because nothing is so good as when it's free.
Josh; "I don't know why we thank Jesus for providing this dinner, he didn't buy it or prepare it"
Grandpa: "Neither did you, and Jesus didn't drink half my beer before dinner. If you don't like it, Denny's is open"
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2013 01:29 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2013 01:29 PM (PwTLl)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 25, 2013 01:30 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 25, 2013 01:30 PM (M8OWQ)
Posted by: toby928© beating memes to death since 2006 at November 25, 2013 01:30 PM (QupBk)
That is to say, my sister/bro-in-law's "politics" don't even make any sense in terms of their own apparently deeply held beliefs and EVEN politically-related views (such as teachers' unions). In the face of such cognitive dissonance (and ignorance, really), I am unable to formulate an approach.
Posted by: non-purist at November 25, 2013 01:31 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 01:31 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: non-purist at November 25, 2013 05:25 PM (afQnV)
I wish someone could explain that type of Liberal Catholic to me. My former boss attends Mass weekly and will literally cry when he mentions, "Il Papa", but he is the most rabid Democrat--pro Abortion, pro everything that is anathema to the Church.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 01:31 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: toby928© beating memes to death since 2006
Help me pull the wheel blocks and we'll fly out.
I only need 200' of runway
Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 25, 2013 01:31 PM (S5LPT)
♫Second Half same as the first, ♪♫ but opposite.
Posted by: Hermans Hermits at November 25, 2013 01:31 PM (iGPSR)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2013 01:31 PM (23Kgq)
But it's a Cold War type peace that ensues. They all know if they bring up some liberal nonsense, I am obliged to counter with the truth - and we all know how painful that can be.
Posted by: Adjoran at November 25, 2013 01:31 PM (473jB)
Posted by: Lace Wigs & Chicken Gravy [/i] at November 25, 2013 01:31 PM (UL/Aj)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 25, 2013 01:32 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: USA at November 25, 2013 01:33 PM (VIaw0)
Posted by: VADM(Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Despatches) at November 25, 2013 01:33 PM (O7OxF)
Sometimes God's answer is "No." :/
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 01:33 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2013 01:33 PM (PwTLl)
Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 01:33 PM (kkbgQ)
Posted by: t-bird at November 25, 2013 01:34 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 01:34 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: cackfinger at November 25, 2013 01:34 PM (OsCtd)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 01:34 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 25, 2013 01:35 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 25, 2013 01:35 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 01:35 PM (kkbgQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2013 01:36 PM (23Kgq)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 25, 2013 01:36 PM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 25, 2013 01:37 PM (M8OWQ)
Since I'm up to my eyeballs in this shit, I'll give you my best bet at explaining it:
They confuse "freedom" with "freedom from responsibility" (and a bit of "no restrictive laws on anything) and "charity" with "government coercion."
So you get this wacky "well women have to be free!" (in both a lack of laws and a lack of responsibility) and "we must give the to poor" (in the form of "tax the shit out of everything."
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 25, 2013 05:35 PM (GaqMa)
Actually, I think it's because he's from Maine and worships the Kennedy sort of Catholic and their ilk. He was brought up to think that a good person goes to Mass and votes Democrat because the Church is wrong on social issues--even though I have heard him say that he thinks the Pope is infallible. It is a truly Byzantine belief system.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 01:38 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 01:38 PM (kkbgQ)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 25, 2013 01:39 PM (Iyi/j)
Figures that the dems will try to ruin a holiday. Oh, and I'm an uncle, but I don't bring up politics at Thanksgiving. Which I will miss, as I have to work 2 shifts on Thurs.
What a bunch of ass-hats...
Posted by: HH at November 25, 2013 01:39 PM (XXwdv)
Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 01:40 PM (kkbgQ)
Posted by: maddogg at November 25, 2013 01:40 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Lace Wigs & Chicken Gravy [/i] at November 25, 2013 01:40 PM (UL/Aj)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 01:40 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 25, 2013 01:40 PM (Iyi/j)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 25, 2013 01:40 PM (Xlbr8)
Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 01:40 PM (PLOz8)
"Once you've engaged the enemy."
DUDE! That's as bad as a crosshairs on a political-strategy map! I'm SO gonna report on this incitement to violence!
Posted by: The Democrat/0Bama Media-Machine at November 25, 2013 01:41 PM (8E9QA)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 25, 2013 05:36 PM (PZ6/M)
Oh, sweetie, I am in Tulsa. Thank you for the kind thought. I have friends that I could go to their home for a meal. I just want everyone to realize that it is over too soon--people die on you and so you should spend the precious time that you have with them fighting about politics. Fight about football or whether sweet potatoes should have marshmallows on them--important stuff.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 01:41 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 25, 2013 01:41 PM (M8OWQ)
Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 05:40 PM (kkbgQ)
Ask Sandy Fluke or Reggie.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 01:42 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Null at November 25, 2013 01:43 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 25, 2013 01:43 PM (Iyi/j)
Really? Deliberately sow discontent at the Thanksgiving Table? Only one of two times a year a family normally gathers to the same table, and you want to deliberately ruin it by giving instructions to your drones to act like douches? I've worked really hard not to be too commending of my ideological opposition as I've always feared the costs of intolerance dehumanization. But one who would deliberately ruin family get-togethers for spite or entertainment purposes doesn't deserve the notion that they should be treated as a human being. You really don't deserve to live on the same planet as the rest of us.
I secretly suspect the intent IS to deliberately get your young and foolish drones to deliberately ostracize themselves from their families so militant progressivism is all they have left.
End result. The one safe haven. The feasting table: where one puts aside ideological differences in the name of comity is perhaps the last causality to the war of extreme ideology. Wherein EVEN IN THIS VENUE, you must be selective and associate only with the like minded, because progressivism is determined to make that atmosphere toxic too. Not content to shit, where they sleep, where they work, and where they hang out. They need to shit where they eat too, just to make sure all is swimming in their feces, unable to find reprieve from the never ending onslaught of progressive bile and waste.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 25, 2013 01:44 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: no good deed at November 25, 2013 01:44 PM (HsJeN)
Posted by: Lace Wigs & Chicken Gravy [/i] at November 25, 2013 01:44 PM (UL/Aj)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 01:44 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: YIKES! at November 25, 2013 01:44 PM (mETGQ)
Car salesmen want to be liked. That's how they sell cars. It makes it real easy to choose a dinner guest.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 25, 2013 01:44 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 25, 2013 01:45 PM (M8OWQ)
Posted by: maddogg at November 25, 2013 01:45 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 25, 2013 01:45 PM (ya3AJ)
Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 01:45 PM (PLOz8)
Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2013 01:46 PM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 25, 2013 01:46 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at November 25, 2013 01:46 PM (1hM1d)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 25, 2013 01:46 PM (ya3AJ)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 25, 2013 05:44 PM (0q2P7)
Heck, I would date a car salesman before I would date a Liberal. At least the car salesman would not be p!ssing me off every 90 seconds.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 25, 2013 01:47 PM (kXoT0)
OMG assault revolver machine gun! RUN!!!
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 25, 2013 01:47 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 25, 2013 01:50 PM (M8OWQ)
Fenelon Spoke, I know what you're saying. Knowing the full situation - what classic and disastrous ignorant moral narcissists my sister and her husband are - is key here. The prayer could not have been offered in the unobjectionable spirit you well describe.
And I don't say that just because I have an extremely, extremely fine hair-trigger of intolerance for ignorant folks (take for example FLOTUS) who slander their country and even people in their own presence by even implying that the US in the modern period has not been the greatest force for good on the planet. With really no peer or even comparable country or group to name.
These ignorant, unworldly do-gooders have not the slightest idea that American money, American political will, American military competence and honor, and Americans (like even the relatives standing before them) make the greatest contributions to protecting and preserving life and dignity of any people on Earth. These are the types who have ingested the de rigeur mythology that "everybody hates us", NPR-stupid dopes who are so clueless they think that genocidal, racist, authoritarian regimes (the kind the US opposes and whose damage we help repair) are just "other countries" deserving fair play, etc.
Nevergiveup said above he's not looking forward to T-giving. I actually "sicked out" last year - was still in shock and rage and despair over the election. Would do it again this year but the wife's here now so cannot get away with it. That is, I know dread almost any family event - and this among siblings who are lucky to have had a nearly perfect childhood and really have no problems between them. I'm the only one with the problem, but I'm the only one who has a worldview and experience beyond what we all had when we were 20.
My great misfortune is having friends and family who, almost exclusively, epitomize the clueless, disastrous class of "educated" Americans who have been slowly destroying the country by slavishly following along with a Dem Party that long ago flew off the rails of sensible, American, or constitutional policy. They have no more ability to understand it if I were to actually give them substantive explanations than a hamster would.
Posted by: non-purist at November 25, 2013 01:52 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 25, 2013 01:52 PM (M8OWQ)
The broad conceptual "idea" of POI was outstanding and full of promise. Most of the cross episode story arc premises have been a huge disappointment due to their improbability and caricature standard villain schticks.
When they stick to stand alone stories, they do better. Its watchable, but only half as good as it could have been with better writers. The machine is just a cheap writing prop to the writers rather than an active plot device to be built around. The Zoe Morgan character is VASTLY underutilized.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 25, 2013 01:53 PM (Xlbr8)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 25, 2013 01:53 PM (6ahup)
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at November 25, 2013 01:54 PM (L4CWX)
I'm LOVING this push to get Obamaniacs to raise the Obamacare issue over T-day.
I read the talking points from the Huffington Post and OFA, and they are lame.
Plus, unlike other political issues, this is one where there is likely one family member who has been adversely affected by Obamacare and is mad as a wet hen about it, and just looking to unload on someone.
I suspect there will be a number of people who are getting burnt if they rely on these talking points. Of that number, a subset will be less eager to trumpet the party line, or perhaps even start to have their own doubts.
Posted by: Sweet Lou at November 25, 2013 01:54 PM (E9T17)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 25, 2013 01:56 PM (M8OWQ)
Posted by: Pix at November 25, 2013 01:57 PM (0a/7L)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 25, 2013 01:57 PM (M8OWQ)
Problem is, that's coming for ALL of us!
Posted by: HH at November 25, 2013 01:58 PM (XXwdv)
They just blather their inane scripted bullshit and I think " I'm a whooooole lot brighter than you, snowflake".
Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2013 01:58 PM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 25, 2013 02:00 PM (M8OWQ)
nice
Posted by: dumbartist...Ars longa, vita brevis at November 25, 2013 02:01 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 25, 2013 02:04 PM (M8OWQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2013 02:04 PM (23Kgq)
Posted by: Dbot1800 at November 25, 2013 02:04 PM (H0k3f)
Oh - and on that one particularly idiotic talking point - "the millions" now able to get "quality affordable" insurance - that's the whole key right there.
So perhaps - very very big perhaps - 10 million people will get some insurance who didn't have any. Doubtful, since there are many reasons people do/don't conform to social norms, only some of them relating to things policy can affect. Say it's 10 million - vs. how many who will opt out entirely? At what cost? What's the cost of simply writing a check so 10 million people are covered by something, vs. turning the entire fucking universe upside-down?
In order to meet nutritional gaps, in order to increase "food security", did the US take over all the grocery chains and restaurants, and regulate what they could sell, and build in massive cost-shifting charges, and in effect radically ration food supply? Uh, no. We created a food stamp program.
If anyone is debating someone with enough neurons firing to even get it, try that metaphor. See if these people can actually think. Ask them why health care insurance "reform" doesn't limit itself to simply writing checks. See if they can manage an answer. (we're leaving out of course that the existing system is massively over-priced primarily due to state-level interference leading to cartelization and cost-shifting/subsidies, and the federal tax code)
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Posted by: dave at November 25, 2013 02:15 PM (8uzdZ)
"Dear Lord,
Thank you for bring no leftwing idiots to my Thanksgiving Dinner table, so that I'd be forced to chew them out for spewing more Obama Regime Lies under my roof. "
Posted by: Patrick M at November 25, 2013 02:22 PM (oNqbW)
"Oh, and thanks for conspiring to ruin Thanksgiving with politics. This is a time to relax, eat, watch football, and oh yeah, be thankful. ..."
Obama has ruined everything else. Why not politics?
Posted by: Patrick M at November 25, 2013 02:23 PM (oNqbW)
Now, with Obamacare, my insurance has been cancelled.
Dinner will be at an insurance agent's house whose MIL got her insurance cancellation letter the same day I got mine. I don't see their talking points making it to the table.
Posted by: STW at November 25, 2013 02:28 PM (9ERnJ)
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Posted by: chicago way at November 25, 2013 03:29 PM (dQutD)
My suggestion for conservatives to win.........Say Obamacare and leave the room. Just say the word and run.
Posted by: Tator at November 25, 2013 03:33 PM (yViJp)
They are young, unemployed, over-educated (in their mind's eye) and smarter than you.
What I will tell the young winsome whelp is that:
1) We are going to beat you like a drum in November 2014.
2) It will be worse than 2010, when we took every race from Governor to dog catcher, and,
3) Your mom is going to drop you from her plan because you are a too-expensive penalty.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at November 25, 2013 03:36 PM (LsJAk)
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Posted by: Aunt Martha at Thanksgiving at November 25, 2013 05:18 PM (X0j4A)
Again, this is a guy whose wife wrote about how much of an asshole this guy is at family get-togethers. Specifically, regarding Israel. Which, by sheer coincidence, he mentions in the post!
How about that.
Posted by: JohnE. at November 25, 2013 09:21 PM (nRTou)
All this sounds quite satirical. And, like so much strong satire, it is hard to tell where the sendup ends and the exposé starts. But, if Cook’s past conduct is indicative of future behavior, there may be a grain of truth to his humorous advice.
In 2011, CookÂ’s wife, Allison Benedikt, wrote a lengthy post about his embarrassingly aggressive behavior around family members.
“We get in huge fights on the same topic over and over again and have terribly awkward dinners where John insists on bringing up Israel and pissing off my Mom,” Benedikt confessed. “I act as moderator and it is the worst. John buys every book about Israel that’s ever been published, and then reads them all so he can win any argument with my family.”
Later, during a trip to Israel to visit his sister-in-law, Benedikt reveals how Cook took the opportunity to berate her for life choices he regarded as ill-advised.
“Once in Tel Aviv, John confronts my sister and her husband on their ‘morally bankrupt decision’ to live in Israel,” she revealed. “I spend the whole week trying to explain him to her and her to him, even though they mostly agree.” She later confessed that they stopped talking about anything political in order to maintain the façade of comity. “I miss her,” Benedikt added.
So yeah.... obviously sarcasm. Or maybe not, since he is an insufferable asshole who is advising the very behavior he frequently engages in with family members. Your call.
Posted by: JohnE. at November 25, 2013 09:26 PM (nRTou)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 25, 2013 09:53 PM (VVsZ2)
Mallamutt, I am SO using the hemroid gambit.
I can't wait for T-Day
Posted by: Sweet Lou at November 26, 2013 03:43 AM (E9T17)
"We've all got a crazy uncle we love"
And you can be known as him if you repeat our pro-Obamacare talking points.
Well, except for the "love" part.
Posted by: Texan357 at November 26, 2013 08:06 AM (rrMPp)
"1) Select Your Target. Obviously, you need to find someone who disagrees with you politically. But not just anyone: Close relatives present perilous risks. Your parents or siblings can drag all sorts of emotional baggage into the fight, muddying the waters and making it more about how your veganism ruined that family vacation to Yellowstone in 1999 than whether "job-killer" is a racist code word. It's safest to go with relatives you only see once or twice a year. Your angry drunk uncle, if he's game. Or that weird cousin who joined the Civil Air Patrol when you were in college."
And so on.
Posted by: Tom Maguire at November 26, 2013 10:29 AM (ktMnP)
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