February 11, 2013
— JohnE. In December of last year, a federal appeals court struck down a law that forbid citizens in Illinois from carrying a firearm. Check out this gif to get an idea of the evolution of concealed carry laws in the United States. Illinois is currently the only "no issue" state in the union.
So, what does this mean? Well, if the legislature doesn't move quickly to enact some type of concealed carry law, the state will default to "Constitutional carry" on June 10, 2013. Republicans are taking the position that if they don't get exactly what they want (some form of "shall issue"), then they're content to let the deadline pass. Democrats looking for some new restrictive gun control law don't have a leg to stand on.
Concealed carry “will be a ‘shall issue’ permit, there will be no discretion by some bureaucrat as to whether you get to exercise your right,” he said.If the deadline should pass, Illinois would become the fifth Constitutional carry state behind Vermont, Alaska, Wyoming and Arizona.“It will be a statewide permit, there will be no carve-out for Chicago. There will be no carve-out for Cook County,” Vandermyde said.
State Rep. Brandon Phelps, D-Harrisburg, who has authored several concealed-carry laws during his time in Springfield, said the federal court ruling goes even further.
"The clock is still ticking. June 10 is the deadline," Phelps said. "We filed a bill, a lot of people didn't think we were going to because we don't have to. Constitutional carry will set-in if we don't do something."
Meanwhile, in California: Democrats are pushing for new gun laws that would make Andrew Cuomo blush:
1. Ban all semi-automatic rifles that accept detachable magazines.I don't have to remind everyone what historically comes after universal registration, right?
2. Ban possession of high-capacity magazines.
3. Ban “bullet button” conversion kits.
4. Bans shotgun-rifle combinations.
5. Universal registration of all guns.
6. Background checks on ammunition.
7. Regulating gun loans.
8. Prevent prohibited individuals from living in homes with guns.
9. Cracking down on people who canÂ’t own guns legally but do anyway.
10. Required safety training for handgun owners.
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Posted by: © Sponge at February 11, 2013 07:59 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 08:00 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Whatev at February 11, 2013 08:00 AM (A7Wh1)
All power, all the time. After all, you're too stupid to live your life the way you see fit.
Posted by: © Sponge at February 11, 2013 08:00 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 08:01 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2013 08:01 AM (LRFds)
It is impossible for a typical citizen to get a carry permit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 08:02 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 11, 2013 08:02 AM (U3ERv)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 11, 2013 08:03 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2013 08:03 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: t-bird at February 11, 2013 08:03 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 08:03 AM (XkWWK)
I'm going to bring this over from the last thread, since I think it applies here, too.
The marines who marched in Obama's inauguration parade this year? The bolts were removed from their rifles.
There's how much he respects "his guys."
It's all about disarming the people.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:04 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 11, 2013 08:04 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 12:01 PM (XkWWK)
And, welcome in the OwebamaCare branch of the IRS and the "fictional" death panel that crazy woman kept droning on about...........
Posted by: © Sponge at February 11, 2013 08:04 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 08:04 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 08:05 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 08:06 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Nate in New Orleans at February 11, 2013 08:06 AM (lhX9P)
Posted by: Whatev at February 11, 2013 12:00 PM (A7Wh1)
Especially if you happen to vaguely resemble a burly black murderer with delusions of grandeur.
Or even if you happen to not resemble him at all, but the cops think you're maybe driving a truck kind of like his maybe.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:06 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 12:05 PM (XkWWK)
Corrected for accuracy.
Posted by: © Sponge at February 11, 2013 08:06 AM (xmcEQ)
"Meanwhile, in California: Democrats are pushing for new gun laws that would make Andrew Cuomo blush..."
And people wonder why I take an incorporationalist approach to the Bill of Rights.
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 11, 2013 08:06 AM (YYJjz)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 11, 2013 08:06 AM (SY2Kh)
When The President is giving his State of the Union tomorrow night, you know what live event will be happening? The 2013 Westminster Kennel Club dog show. How perfect is that? Starting tonight, it concludes tomorrow evening with the Champion Awarded.
With the whole "Obama ate a dog, meme" I think this dog show 'counter-programming' has some potential for some fresh jokes.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 11, 2013 08:06 AM (UypUQ)
Your children or your guns...one of them has to be surrendered to the state.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 11, 2013 08:06 AM (/kI1Q)
When The President is giving his State of the Union tomorrow night, you know what live event will be happening? The 2013 Westminster Kennel Club dog show. How perfect is that? Starting tonight, it concludes tomorrow evening with the Champion Awarded.
I know what I'll be watching!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:07 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: JohnE. at February 11, 2013 08:07 AM (nRTou)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 08:08 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2013 08:08 AM (NHHNG)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 11, 2013 08:08 AM (piMMO)
The question is whether you want to see just one bitch, or several.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2013 08:08 AM (DrWcr)
There's no other way to put it.
I dispute your assertion.
Democrats = Bolshevists is an equally valid statement.
Posted by: fluffy at February 11, 2013 08:09 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Max Entropy at February 11, 2013 08:09 AM (Ac+vK)
Posted by: © Sponge at February 11, 2013 08:09 AM (xmcEQ)
13 I guaran-damn-tee (Garand damned tee) that if they banned all firearms they would ban all 3-D printers soon afterwards.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 12:03 PM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Pyrocles at February 11, 2013 08:09 AM (cv5Iw)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2013 08:09 AM (LRFds)
8. Prevent prohibited individuals from living in homes with guns.
So that means Schizophrenic Johnny can't live in his parents' home because he was committed to an institution in his early twenties, but he's been living at home so his parents can make sure he has his medication. So they can either give up their guns or they can send their son to live in an institution again, or just cut him loose.
Classy.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:09 AM (4df7R)
It doesn't make any sense. Most rifle / shotgun combos are over/under double barreled long guns. One shot of each barrel before reloading- about the last weapon a criminal would use to rob a liquor store if he had a choice.
My best guess is that maybe they're referring to guns like the Taurus Judge that can shoot .45LC or .410? Not that it would make any more sense.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 11, 2013 08:10 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Ben at February 11, 2013 08:10 AM (C2Y4l)
Posted by: E. at February 11, 2013 08:11 AM (0CfOQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 11, 2013 08:11 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: fluffy at February 11, 2013 12:09 PM (z9HTb)
I stand corrected.
However, they don't "exist" anymore in party.
Posted by: © Sponge at February 11, 2013 08:11 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: E. at February 11, 2013 08:12 AM (0CfOQ)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 08:12 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: E. at February 11, 2013 08:12 AM (0CfOQ)
Posted by: nip at February 11, 2013 08:13 AM (11Tdq)
In CA. My little 10/22 that shoots. 22s will be banned but my Garand that shoots 30.06 will not be banned.
Morons.
Posted by: Max Entropy
I loved that Feinstein's bill bans the Mini-14 tactical for having a folding+collapsable stock but it's big brother, the Mini-30 is not. Lets see, .223 from a folded (and HIGHLY INACCURATE) 14 is dangerous but .308 from the more accurate 30 is not!
Posted by: wheelmanforhire at February 11, 2013 08:14 AM (l8nIR)
Democrats think they're SMARTER than the communists before them and they'll do it BETTER this time.
Posted by: © Sponge at February 11, 2013 08:15 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 11, 2013 08:15 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: BroncoBama at February 11, 2013 08:15 AM (NHHNG)
It's a conversion kit that replaces the magazine release, requiring use of a "tool" (the bullet of an unfired round) to press the release instead of being able to just press it with a finger.
That the gun would need use of a tool to detach the magazine skirts their "assault weapon" ban law.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 11, 2013 08:15 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 08:16 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: wheelmanforhire at February 11, 2013 08:16 AM (l8nIR)
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 08:16 AM (GQ8sn)
And not just Schizo J. It'll be more than that.
Posted by: eleven at February 11, 2013 08:16 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 08:16 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 11, 2013 08:16 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 11, 2013 08:17 AM (e0xKF)
Could someone explain to the dude who only owns a shotgun what a "Constitutional Carry" state is?
Does that just mean absent a law you get defacto conceal and carry? And if so, isn't every state without "Shall Issue" permits just a lawsuit away from being Constitutional Carry.
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at February 11, 2013 08:17 AM (oG3dE)
Didn't John Kerry once say that socialism fails because they "don't do it right" or something like that?
Democrats think they're SMARTER than the communists before them and they'll do it BETTER this time.
Posted by: © Sponge at February 11, 2013 12:15 PM (xmcEQ)
That's the only reason they keep trying. It's been proven a failure EVERY FUCKING TIME, but by golly, THIS group of regressives are so much smarter and so much more EARNEST than the last group that tried it. It's sure to work THIS time, because the people pushing it really believe.
It's like they're operating from a copy of The Communist Manifesto that's been integrated with the script from Disney's Peter Pan. Just clap your hands, everyone!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:17 AM (4df7R)
The Mini-30 fires 7.62x39 (AK-47 round), not .308 Win / 7.62 NATO / 7.62x51.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 11, 2013 08:18 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 11, 2013 08:18 AM (4Mv1T)
Look now,
You've still got Bananas, Passionfruit, oranges, apples, grapefruit (whole and segmented), pomegranates, greengages, grapes, lemons, plums, mangoes in syrup, and cherries (red and black).
So you remain an armed and dangerous citizens. I mean California is just full of fruits from all i've 'eard.
Posted by: Self Defense instructor at February 11, 2013 08:18 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2013 08:18 AM (HDgX3)
I was thinking about Texas secession and just the administrative mess it would cause changinig from 50 states to 49 states.
My proposal would be to let Texas secede and Puerto Rico become a state. No mess changing the stars in the flag. Like nothing is different. Who's with me?
Posted by: polynikes at February 11, 2013 08:19 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 11, 2013 08:19 AM (8y9MW)
Cattle cars and camps.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 11, 2013 08:19 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2013 08:19 AM (WM+rJ)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2013 12:18 PM (HDgX3)
Gang activity is illegal, ergo there are no Crips or Bloods. QED.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2013 08:19 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: awkward davies at February 11, 2013 08:20 AM (USjX1)
Posted by: t-bird at February 11, 2013 08:20 AM (FcR7P)
Demand a law allowing Militia carry, and sale of M-16 lowers to CCW holders.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 08:20 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2013 12:19 PM (DrWcr)
Exactly.
And we've always been at war with Eastasia.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:20 AM (4df7R)
13
I guaran-damn-tee (Garand damned tee) that if they banned all firearms they would ban all 3-D printers soon afterwards.
***
And constitutional amendments. Them fuckers got to go.
Posted by: California Free Shit Army at February 11, 2013 08:20 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at February 11, 2013 08:20 AM (zSvSG)
Posted by: wheelmanforhire at February 11, 2013 12:16 PM (l8nIR)
____________
No matter what happens...
1. Bush will be blamed
2. Obama will be praised
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2013 08:20 AM (HDgX3)
External mags cannot be detachable without a special tool. These kits get around this ignorant law by letting you detach a mag with the bullet end of a cartridge.
What this IL law is saying is exactly the core of this issue: States are nullifying a constitutional right to bear arms. Period. The state cc laws are in my opinion also unconstitutional. If ex cons can vote, they should be able to carry. If he is not safe for society, then don't let him out!
Posted by: Cicero Kid at February 11, 2013 08:20 AM (+iUsQ)
Not to mention that if you suggest Constitutional Carry to the NRA, their eyes glaze over. Pantywaists.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at February 11, 2013 08:20 AM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 11, 2013 08:20 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: MS-13 at February 11, 2013 08:21 AM (piMMO)
I believe the progg response is that's what they get for allowing their imperfect child be born rather than stab him in the skull with a scissors, or dehydrating him to death after his disability was discovered.
And now I have to go bury myself in a spreadsheet, because I'm starting to scare myself.
But seriously; given that children under 18 (21?) are not allowed to purchase/carry firearms, the whole point of #8 is to disarm everyone with kids at home.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 11, 2013 08:21 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: eleven at February 11, 2013 08:21 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Millions of CA Illegals at February 11, 2013 08:21 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 11, 2013 08:21 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: JohnE. at February 11, 2013 08:22 AM (nRTou)
NC is an open carry state, although many municipalities forbid it.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 11, 2013 08:23 AM (4Mv1T)
It's rather ingenious, actually.
Since CA law specifies that a (banned) "assault weapon" has a detachable magazine which is further defined as a magazine that can be removed without use of tools, a bullet button conversion makes what would otherwise be a banned "assault weapon" legal.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 11, 2013 08:23 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Hollywood at February 11, 2013 08:23 AM (FcR7P)
***
So Michelle won't win Best of Show this year.
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 11, 2013 08:23 AM (Hx5uv)
--- I'm pretty sure it means that you can openly carry a copy of the constitution without being taken off to the camps...
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 11, 2013 08:23 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 11, 2013 08:24 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at February 11, 2013 08:24 AM (Rwrs+)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 11, 2013 08:24 AM (/kI1Q)
***
So Michelle won't win Best of Show this year.
But she isn't risking Presidential canabalism by running.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 08:24 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 11, 2013 12:24 PM (/kI1Q)
Naturally. To do otherwise would be racist.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2013 08:24 AM (DrWcr)
waHOOOO I'll be going over there this week to check out what they have
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 08:25 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: awkward davies at February 11, 2013 08:25 AM (USjX1)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 08:25 AM (l86i3)
***
Well, the MSNBSerial Killer thinks gun control is a swell idea.
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 11, 2013 08:25 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 12:24 PM (wYVte)
I don't think you have to worry about Bammy eating Moochelle, IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2013 08:25 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Hollywood at February 11, 2013 12:23 PM (FcR7P)
AKA, "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others."
I really think I should buy my parents a copy of "1984" and "Animal Farm." Then they'd understand what I mean when I say we're living them both in real time. They believe it, they've just never read the books to be able to really understand how true it is.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:25 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: JohnE. at February 11, 2013 08:26 AM (nRTou)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 11, 2013 12:23 PM (SO2Q
Hulk laff!
Yeah, that sounds like America under the current regime
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 08:26 AM (8sCoq)
They will never take the guns , but they will destroy the country through Amnesty for 20 and then 50 million more Illegals , the mutt already side stepped a spinless congress to sign the dream act..
Posted by: Clemenza at February 11, 2013 08:26 AM (Q8Pu5)
Spray and pray.
Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2013 08:26 AM (WM+rJ)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 08:27 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at February 11, 2013 12:24 PM (Rwrs+)
The empty cup? Pshaw! Reseal the cup with its original lid and send it to him as if it were unopened. "Pudding in celebration! Mangia!"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:27 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 11, 2013 08:27 AM (4Mv1T)
They need the Republicans to vote in any kind of legislation. If they just filibuster, Downstate Illinois goes to Constitutional carry, and Cook County and Chicago get one new 2nd Amendment lawsuit after another.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 08:27 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 11, 2013 08:27 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 11, 2013 08:29 AM (ATdet)
----
Yup---- like just about every state East of the Rockies and West of the Misssissppi
Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2013 08:29 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 11, 2013 12:27 PM (4Mv1T)
I'm going to visit the Thornton store this week
need 9mm, .40SW, .38spl
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 08:29 AM (8sCoq)
Democrats looking for some new restrictive gun control law don't have a leg to stand on.
That sentence makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. You just know that infuriates them to no end that the default is Freedom.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 08:30 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: jakeman, Assault V2.0 at February 11, 2013 08:31 AM (96M6e)
I'm pretty sure it means that you can openly carry a copy of the constitution without being taken off to the camps...
Yeah, you can carry your little book for now....
Posted by: Piers Morgan at February 11, 2013 08:31 AM (NF2Bf)
---
No thanks.
If Texas is leaving, expect some company on the way out.
Make the blue states secede from us. And partition them so they only take blue counties with them.
Then declare war on them for human rights violations, and nuke them.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 08:31 AM (wYVte)
Hey, man, you don't talk to SMOD. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll... uh... well, you'll say "hello" to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you. He won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say, "Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you"... I mean I'm... no, I can't... I'm a little man, I'm a little man, he's... he's a great man! I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas...
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 11, 2013 08:31 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 12:17 PM (8sCoq)
I got an NRA alert encouraging everyone to attend the "discussions" in Denver (Wednesday, I think).
Colorado is desperately trying to follow California's lead.
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 08:32 AM (Qxe/p)
We get to wear nifty colored badges?
Posted by: Penfold at February 11, 2013 08:32 AM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 08:32 AM (l86i3)
Say it with me now: "Molon Labe."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 11, 2013 08:33 AM (8y9MW)
A law does not prevent ANYTHING!
Suppose I was to pick a person at random to murder tomorrow. What law will prevent me from doing that?
No law.
Think about it: There is and never will be a law to prevent murder. The only thing that stops me from murdering you is 1) me, as I wish to avoid the consequences both temporally and eternally, and 2) you, but only if you are forewarned and prepared.
That's it.
But, if I have no regard for the consequences, where are your laws now, eh?
Take comfort of this, fellow citizen: The modern liberal state will and does eliminate both #1 and #2. The second as they disarm the law-abiding and the first as they always excuse the criminal.
When you give your life to the state, don't think the state will give anything for yours.
Posted by: RoyalOil at February 11, 2013 08:33 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Penfold at February 11, 2013 12:32 PM (Fbt5B)
Yellow ones that say "juden" on them. "Juden" means "gun-owner" in Austrian.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2013 08:33 AM (DrWcr)
What are Bullet Button conversion kits?
Posted by: Ben at February 11, 2013 12:10 PM (C2Y4l)
It's the magazine lock that we have to swap for the normal magazine release button in order to have AR15s in my beloved Clownifornia.
Except that there was an existing CA push to ban a "bullet button tool" which had a magnet attached, which would allow one to quickly render a bullet button into a regular mag release. Us CA gunnies have been railing against the asshole who came up with the idea and shamelessly (and deceptively) marketing it at gun shows. He was basically doing the wink-wink thing while glossing over the fact that use of his product in-state was an instant felony.
It's not certain which device the proposed law would ban.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 11, 2013 08:33 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 08:33 AM (wYVte)
need 9mm, .40SW, .38spl
I deliberately picked up the heavy-ass case of ammo I wanted right then so I would just pay and leave. I could've easily melted my credit card there in minutes if I didn't get the hell out.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 11, 2013 08:33 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 11, 2013 08:34 AM (uhftQ)
Like I always say, scratch a reactionary leftist, find the fascist writhing underneath.
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 11, 2013 08:34 AM (tqAT4)
Posted by: Penfold at February 11, 2013 12:32 PM (Fbt5B)
What would be a suitable gun-owner badge? I'm thinking a blood-red bullet, to alert the world to our horrible crime of believing in self-defense from a tyrannical State.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:34 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: jakeman, Assault V2.0 at February 11, 2013 08:34 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Clemenza at February 11, 2013 08:34 AM (Q8Pu5)
"There will be no carve-out for Cook County..."
Well, start documenting the incidence of gun crime pretty carefully, because there will be a sudden increase in gun violence coverage in the media once this change occurs, in an attempt to show it was caused by concealed carry.
The Demedia Party will be in a panic over the possibility that gun crim will go DOWN, and they ain't gonna let that happen, or at least they ain't gonna let you know if it does.
Posted by: sherlock at February 11, 2013 08:35 AM (81ia8)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 08:35 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 12:32 PM (Qxe/p)
Sadly, Columbine and Aurora make for a lot of bloody shirts for the gun-grabbers to wave
I will never disarm or submit
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 08:35 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 12:32 PM (Qxe/p)
----
Only re-enforces my locust liberal theory.
They make such a mess of shitting all over where they live until living there is intolerable. Then they move to somewhere else only to repeat their previous errors.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2013 08:35 AM (nELVU)
No, it'll be a badge in the shape of a target that we have to wear on our front/back.
Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 08:35 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 08:36 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Roy at February 11, 2013 08:36 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 08:37 AM (l86i3)
They make such a mess of shitting all over where they live until living there is intolerable. Then they move to somewhere else only to repeat their previous errors.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2013 12:35 PM (nELVU)
And good luck trying to clean out the rot they leave behind. You have to raze the house and burn the crops and leave the fields empty until you can afford to buy proper seed again.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:37 AM (4df7R)
Yeah pretty much...Uncle Jan Neopolitino says that knowledge of the Cobstitution is an indication you're a domestic terrorist.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2013 08:37 AM (LRFds)
I'm perplexed by this. They claim people aren't getting harsh enough punishments when they use a gun to commit a crime or something. The news report wasn't too clear.
I was confused, because they compared a case of armed robbery to a case of someone being shot (assault or attempted murder) which, as I understand carry differing penalties because their different crimes. For whatever reason we tend to treat taking someone's stuff as a lesser crime that actually injuring the person. So I'm not sure how a special docket will fix this.
Factor in sentencing guidelines and...well....I mean how is this going to work? Unless their going to throw out the book and just use a new one.
The only other thing I was thinking was maybe the news story is confused and they want a docket dealing with "unlawful ownership" specifically. In which case we're back at "enforcing the laws we have."
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at February 11, 2013 08:38 AM (oG3dE)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 12:37 PM (l86i3)
I would not be averse to nuking my fellow New Englanders. I would just appreciate a warning so I can GTHO before the bombs fall.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:38 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: nip at February 11, 2013 08:38 AM (11Tdq)
Posted by: Clemenza at February 11, 2013 08:38 AM (Q8Pu5)
Posted by: MadisonConservative at February 11, 2013 08:38 AM (Y/HG5)
seven rows of seven stars--it was a beautiful flag. Then Hawaii came in and f*cked it up
Posted by: DOA in Scrambletown, FLA at February 11, 2013 08:38 AM (Dll6b)
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Yup---- like just about every state East of the Rockies and West of the Misssissppi
Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2013 12:29 PM (nELVU)
The libs would agree to getting rid of evil Texans in favor of getting enlightened minorities but you guys are harshing my plan.
Posted by: polynikes at February 11, 2013 08:38 AM (m2CN7)
The WY legislature is currently discussing a bill to forbid federal firearms siezures.
I'll be at the Republican Lincoln day dinner in Cheyenne this week as a Republican precinct person, pimping my notion about making CCW holders officially state militiamen.
This will not only get them out from under the federal thumb, but will make it legal to issue them m-4 lowers later.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 08:40 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: DOA in Scrambletown, FLA at February 11, 2013 12:38 PM (Dll6b)
If only they'd waited ten, even five more years, our Precious Leader couldn't claim he was born in this country. He'd have to lie about being born in another state.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:40 AM (4df7R)
The Judge is marketed to mouth-breathing retards, and the marketing campaign seems to have unintentionally sucked in politicians as well.
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at February 11, 2013 08:40 AM (XZWie)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-h8ABKRyxg
Confiscation of hundreds of weapons from someone who REPORTED a crime, in one of the most dangerous cities in the state, as well as the nation. These fascist shitheels don't even understand the concept of individual rights.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at February 11, 2013 08:40 AM (Y/HG5)
***
Someone wrote into the local paper discussing her recent conversation with a couple of high school graduates. She learned that each state has its own president and vice president and FDR freed the slaves to create jobs.
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 11, 2013 08:40 AM (Hx5uv)
It is impossible for a typical citizen to get a carry permit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 12:02 PM
Thats what I was thinking. I also hear that technically we are a class 3 state, but who knows. I mean, this from the state where a judge once said "the constitution means nothing here, I am the law".
Posted by: Berserker at February 11, 2013 08:40 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Berserker at February 11, 2013 12:40 PM (FMbng)
Was his name Dredd, perchance?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2013 08:41 AM (DrWcr)
Remember the marriage vote last year? All NC metropolitan area counties voted blue, all other counties, and I mean ALL others, voted red. Those fine folks from the north did not move to the sticks, they moved to town.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 11, 2013 08:42 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 11, 2013 12:40 PM (Hx5uv)
*facepalm*
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2013 08:42 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 11, 2013 12:40 PM (Hx5uv)
Disband and dismantle ALL unions! And start with the g-ddamn NEA.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:42 AM (4df7R)
ban mags over 10 rounds
repeal the right to carry on university and college campii
charge a fee for background check
CRIMINALIZE private sale
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 08:42 AM (8sCoq)
Demorats are so stupid it is astonishing.
I think the NY law will be the first to reach the Sup. Ct. Sets up a perfect battle against gun registration, 7 rounds in a clip bullshit, etc.
They have gone from gradualism to a wholesale assault on the Second Amendment.
Excuse me. 1 person was killed with a rifle in Chicago in 2011. My rights to a firearm of my choosing, that is readily available in pretty much every other state, cannot be infringed simply because I live in the people's republic of Chicago.
THERE IS NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE. None. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
Gun ownership has skyrocketed lately, crime and murder keep coming down.
Chicago has most draconian gun laws on the books, murder spikes continue.
End of story. The AR 15 is the most popular style rifle in the United States. It usually is sold with a 30 round magazine.
Read the fucking Supreme Court cases. You are all done. Read the dissent in Heller II.
These people are fucking laughable. The Violence Prevention Center lies and lies and lies. They don't care. They want to ban ALL FUCKING GUNS. Hand guns, muzzle loaders, semiauto rifles, air guns.
They would leave us defenseless. Fuck them. I expect the Sup. Ct. to step in here and end this madness.
Posted by: Prescient11 at February 11, 2013 08:42 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 08:42 AM (l86i3)
Could be what they're trying to ban, but how often do you ever see one except on television? It would be like banning .50 BMG handguns. They exist, but only as a rare and expensive novelty.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 11, 2013 08:42 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 11, 2013 12:40 PM (Hx5uv)
No shit? He/She didn't already know that?
Posted by: HS Graduate looking for work at February 11, 2013 08:43 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 11, 2013 08:43 AM (/kI1Q)
Class 3?
What's that?
I mean...I know we are second class citizens, but there's something worse?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 08:43 AM (GsoHv)
"I don't have to remind everyone what historically comes after universal registration, right?"
I think that 'Universal Background Checks' is a stealth way of establishing Universal Registration.
Posted by: wheatie at February 11, 2013 08:43 AM (w27/Q)
Posted by: Dang at February 11, 2013 08:43 AM (R18D0)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 11, 2013 08:44 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 11, 2013 12:42 PM (SY2Kh)
You're talking about legislators and agitators who think the weapons in "Metalgear Solid" are available over the counter to anyone who wants them, no questions asked.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:44 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 08:44 AM (l86i3)
What has me worried is all the CA license plates I see turning up here in AZ.
I'm afraid they will bring the same delusional beliefs here and try to turn us into CA.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 11, 2013 08:44 AM (uhftQ)
ban mags over 10 rounds"
Gotta love how reactionary leftists have never heard of "reloading".
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 11, 2013 08:45 AM (tqAT4)
people who live there say it's not that Wyoming is windy, it's just that Nebraska sucks
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 08:45 AM (8sCoq)
I don't have to remind everyone what historically comes after universal registration, right?
Remind us, no. It's getting through the thick skulls of the left that's the problem. Every single time I've explained by opposition to universal registration because of universal confiscation, I've been met with the same (non)answers:
"That can't happen here."
"What are you, one of those militia types?"
"You're racist."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 11, 2013 08:45 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: jakeman, Assault V2.0 at February 11, 2013 08:45 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Prescient11 at February 11, 2013 12:42 PM (tVTLU)
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Charging for a background check.????????
Well..... certainly sounds like a TAX to me......
Posted by: Chief Justic Roberts at February 11, 2013 08:45 AM (nELVU)
Yup. The only counties that voted for gay marriage were the ones that had the bigger towns and cities. I remember one county in the sticks that voted 90-10 for the amendment.
Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 08:45 AM (GQ8sn)
Insanity. "Constitutional Carry" as if that is some terrible thing. If the Constitution means anything it should be "Constitutional Carry" everywhere.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2013 08:46 AM (p/cQy)
From HeatherRadish's link, the PJ Media headline:
Obama on Pope: ‘I Have Appreciated Our Work Together Over These Last Four Years’
Yes, everyone. As expected, it's all about him.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:46 AM (4df7R)
If anything, the federal government should try and do things to make California want to go on its own. Maybe raise taxes on organic fruits and vegetables? Ban hybrids? Lots of offshore drilling?
Posted by: McAdams at February 11, 2013 08:46 AM (VGRU5)
Machineguns, silencers, short-barrelled rifles and shotguns.
It is technically lawful to own them in NJ, but police never sign the paperwork.
However, there a re a few crafty folks using trusts and LLCs to own the weapons, which don't require a law enforcement signature.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 08:46 AM (wYVte)
Oh man, I would love a walking tank!
Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 08:46 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 11, 2013 12:45 PM (tqAT4)
these people are idiots- it's like they're saying, 'you may only murder people ten at a time, then you must reload'
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 08:46 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Hollowpoint
***
The people in question view their extreme ignorance of firearms as a badge of honor.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 11, 2013 08:46 AM (uhftQ)
that'd be scary if it were. (Meh, I don't live in California.)
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at February 11, 2013 08:46 AM (oG3dE)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 08:47 AM (l86i3)
http://is.gd/ZaxUfn
Sweet Anubis' flea collar.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 11, 2013 12:43 PM (/kI1Q)
So, who do you think Obama will choose as the Pope's successor?
Also, will that require congressional hearings?
(HS Graduate sock off, perhaps a bit too late ...)
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 08:47 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 11, 2013 08:47 AM (e0xKF)
Remind us, no. It's getting through the thick skulls of the left that's the problem. Every single time I've explained by opposition to universal registration because of universal confiscation, I've been met with the same (non)answers:
"That can't happen here."
"What are you, one of those militia types?"
"You're racist."
History, how does it fucking work?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 08:47 AM (+z4pE)
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No joke, this pretty much coincides with what my 16 year old tells me. He laughs at the retardidity of his fellow classmates. It's shocking how ill informed these kids are.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 11, 2013 08:47 AM (ATdet)
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Just you SHHUUUUUUUUUUUUUSH.
I currently enjoy the fact that I can buy GUNPOWDER over the counter and reload my own ammo.
Please do not point out my fortune to the regulators that be.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2013 08:47 AM (nELVU)
I'm perplexed by this. They claim people aren't getting harsh enough punishments when they use a gun to commit a crime or something. The news report wasn't too clear.
They're right. Too often the felony gun-related offense gets pleaded down to a misdemeanor or dropped completely for not being sexy enough.
Leave the rest of us alone, crack down hard on the shitbirds who use a gun to commit a crime.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 11, 2013 08:48 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Soviet Maryland at February 11, 2013 08:48 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: jakeman, Assault V2.0 at February 11, 2013 08:48 AM (96M6e)
The California "shotgun-rifle" ban seems to be aimed at the ridiculous Taraus Judge style weapons, which can shoot either .45 pistol ammo or .410 shotshells.
The Judge is marketed to mouth-breathing retards, and the marketing campaign seems to have unintentionally sucked in politicians as well.
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at February 11, 2013 12:40 PM (XZWie)
Except that the Judge is already illegal twice over in CA because under state law it's considered a short-barreled shotgun, AND an assault weapon because it's a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
Just think, if Taurus were ever to purchase HiPoint, they could market HPs as "The Defendant".
And I'm with you on the "marketed to mouth-breathing retards" thing.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 11, 2013 08:49 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2013 08:49 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Infidelswine at February 11, 2013 08:49 AM (pq/Om)
Posted by: Soviet Maryland at February 11, 2013 08:50 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 12:46 PM (8sCoq)
"Reloading? no no no! You're only allowed ONE clip! Dammit. Gerald, add that caveat to the law. 'Magazines cannot exceed ten rounds, and gun owners may only own one magazine per gun. Guns with interchangeable magazines must share one.'"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 08:50 AM (4df7R)
Chief Justice Roberts:
Yeah, background checks will pass muster. Banning semiauto rifles and banning magazines over 10 rounds will not.
Shit, even before the civil war they had rifles that could hold 18 cartridges that we semiautomatic.
Registration of individual weapons will be found to be unconstitutional. So will "gun insurance."
An inherent right is much different than driving a car. Fuck them and fuck what they stand for.
Posted by: Prescient11 at February 11, 2013 08:50 AM (tVTLU)
.45 LC and .410 shotgun actually makes sense as a carbine, and it is legal in CA.
Which is why the CA legislature wants to ban it.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 08:51 AM (wYVte)
I currently enjoy the fact that I can buy GUNPOWDER over the counter and reload my own ammo.
Please do not point out my fortune to the regulators that be.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2013 12:47 PM (nELVU)
Although the anonymous 911 call claiming a domestic disturbance at the residence proved false, several pounds of explosives were found at the residence.
Police and the ATF have evacuated the neighborhood, and will advise residents when it is safe to return.
Posted by: the MSM at February 11, 2013 08:51 AM (Qxe/p)
OT sorry
This is the lady Brent Musberger gushed over during the BCS championship game
I thought the guys should see this right away- it's important
http://t.co/UEnTvrkK
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 08:52 AM (8sCoq)
Meh, lever action anything is pretty close to semi-auto with practice, for all intents and purposes IMHO.
Can you pump out 9/second? Unlikely, but I doubt you could do that with any real accuracy on a semi-auto anyway.
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at February 11, 2013 08:52 AM (oG3dE)
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at February 11, 2013 12:40 PM (XZWie)
One problem with the Judge is the 'jump' .45 LC bullets have to make because of the disparity of length between a .410 and a .45 LC, which skews its accuracy. Another problem is that the necessarily short pistol barrel diminishes the effectiveness of the .410. I don't see a way around the shortcomings of the design. The ballistic requirements of the .410 and the .45 LC, both very effective and proven on their own, negate each other.
The Judge is a very big and scary-cool looking handgun, though. I had to dissuade my girlfriend from buying one when we went to pick out a gun for her after she got her carry license.
Posted by: troyriser at February 11, 2013 08:52 AM (vtiE6)
Good to know I'm a "mouth breather" on weapons...
the Judge class weapon is a decent one within its mission profile, especially the carbine.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2013 08:52 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 11, 2013 08:53 AM (8y9MW)
I'm afraid they will bring the same delusional beliefs here and try to turn us into CA.
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It won't matter if amnesty goes through. We'll all be CA.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 11, 2013 08:53 AM (ATdet)
Posted by: Justice Harry Blackmun at February 11, 2013 08:53 AM (C8mVl)
That's a good looking woman.
Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 08:53 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Clemenza at February 11, 2013 08:53 AM (Q8Pu5)
There are a lot of gun owners in outstate MN though (as in 'almost everybody'), plus we're the home to DPMS. Hopefully they get blocked.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 11, 2013 08:54 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: SH at February 11, 2013 08:54 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: jakeman, Assault V2.0 at February 11, 2013 08:54 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 11, 2013 08:54 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 08:54 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 11, 2013 08:54 AM (GFM2b)
"the way around it" is to use it as a revolving carbine....
http://www.mossycreekcustom.com/revolvers/taurus-judge/
You can have it gunsmithed to ease reloading and sights as well.
It's not a conventional weapon but great fun for killing rattlers.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2013 08:55 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Clemenza at February 11, 2013 08:55 AM (Q8Pu5)
Margarita:
Nope. Hopefully long enough for Cuomo's idiot law to make it up the chain. And then there's Heller II, which should be back before the DC Cir. again.
If that goes up, the issues will be:
1) Ban on certain semiauto rifles
2) Ban on mags over 10 rounds
3) Registration of all guns.
Hit it out of the fucking park. All three should fall.
Posted by: Prescient11 at February 11, 2013 08:55 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: t-bird at February 11, 2013 08:56 AM (FcR7P)
Even worse- racist, old, dead white guys. By definition the epitome of evil according to the PC left.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 11, 2013 08:56 AM (SY2Kh)
with a couple of high school graduates. She learned that each state has
its own president and vice president and FDR freed the slaves to create
jobs.
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No joke, this pretty much coincides with what my 16 year old tells me. He laughs at the retardidity of his fellow classmates. It's shocking how ill informed these kids are.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 11, 2013 12:47 PM (ATdet)
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And it is through the indoctrination of our publik schools that our freedoms are being lost. It is the tap-root of our present problems.
Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2013 08:56 AM (drE9i)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 11, 2013 08:57 AM (e0xKF)
Si absolutely! ELECTROLYTES
Chief Justice Dwayne Alisandro Hector Mountain Dew Camacho....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2013 08:57 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: RWC at February 11, 2013 08:57 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at February 11, 2013 08:57 AM (FcR7P)
you will have to get a stamp for certain long guns , paid annually,,,
Posted by: Clemenza at February 11, 2013 08:57 AM (Q8Pu5)
That might discriminate against People Of Color and Undocumented Immigrants. Couldn't have that.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 11, 2013 08:57 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: SH at February 11, 2013 08:57 AM (gmeXX)
Haven't heard a word about his death from the SCOAMF.
RIP, Chris. Prayers for your loved ones.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 08:58 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Justice Harry Blackmun at February 11, 2013 08:58 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2013 08:58 AM (9Bj8R)
Taraus Judge style weapons, which can shoot either .45 pistol ammo or
.410 shotshells.
>>>The Judge is marketed to mouth-breathing
retards, and the marketing campaign seems to have unintentionally sucked
in politicians as well.
You.are.an.idiot.
The Judge first is illegal in California as no pistol can be chambered for shotgun rounds in the state.
Second the Judge is an excellent field utility gun in that it can be both used as an anti snake gun and a large animal self defense gun, eliminating the need for two weapons.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 11, 2013 08:58 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 08:58 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 11, 2013 08:58 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Prescient11 at February 11, 2013 12:42 PM (tVTLU)
*crickets chirping* *clocks ticking* *somewhere in the distance, a dog barks*
Good luck with that.
Posted by: troyriser at February 11, 2013 08:58 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2013 08:59 AM (C8mVl)
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Exactly. And it's the reason why the vast majority of college students truly hate their very own country. They've been taught to hate America.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 11, 2013 08:59 AM (ATdet)
would surprise a lot of people in the elevator..
Posted by: Clemenza at February 11, 2013 08:59 AM (Q8Pu5)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 11, 2013 12:58 PM (GFM2b)
If it works on spiders, my wife will demand one.
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 09:00 AM (Qxe/p)
This is the lady Brent Musberger gushed over during the BCS championship game
I thought the guys should see this right away- it's important
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Meh.
Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2013 09:00 AM (drE9i)
The Judge is marketed to mouth-breathing retards, and the marketing campaign seems to have unintentionally sucked in politicians as well.
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at February 11, 2013 12:40 PM (XZWie)
Except a pistol isn't a rifle, retard.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2013 09:00 AM (673KB)
Posted by: jakeman, Assault
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Been here since 1982. I've watched portions of the state turn radically blue. My folks cancelled their subscription to the Arizona Repugnant years ago thanks to the America hating political cartoonist Benson. I never started buying it in the first place for the reasons you mentioned.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 11, 2013 09:00 AM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Prescient11 at February 11, 2013 12:50 PM (tVTLU)
True Story.... one of the major reasons the Lewis and Clark expedition was successful, was that they had in their possesion an Austrian 'Air Rifle'...
They would march into a new Tribes area, in full Uniform, and give a demonstration with it.... showing how fast and powerful it was... and the Indians did not know they only had ONE...
This gun is now in the Smithsonian.... it carried TWENTY rounds... capable of firing 30 on an air charge... and was effective out to about 150 yards...
Good enough for Lewis and Clark... illegal for Californians....
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 11, 2013 09:01 AM (lZBBB)
The issue is currently in the courts. The state government keeps claiming a revolver carbine is a semi-automatic. Which is why the CA legislature is trying to make it even more illegal.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 09:01 AM (wYVte)
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Meh.
Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2013 01:00 PM (drE9i)
Really?
Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 09:01 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at February 11, 2013 09:02 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: t-bird at February 11, 2013 09:02 AM (FcR7P)
It gave me global warming in my pants.
http://supportyourlocalgunfighter.com/
Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 11, 2013 09:02 AM (81UWZ)
Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2013 01:00 PM (drE9i)
Really?
Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 01:01 PM (GQ8sn)
Must be the elbows.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2013 09:02 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 09:03 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at February 11, 2013 09:03 AM (+iUsQ)
If there is any place confiscation would not be largely opposed, it's California.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 11, 2013 09:03 AM (8y9MW)
The CA gov is fighting to ban it as a semi-auto in the courts, and will probably lose. This legislation is an end run around that.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 09:03 AM (wYVte)
While I agree I would God only knows what the neo-luddite STALAG enablers call a pistol though...."the bore is uh rifled ah..."
yeah "rifle"...
*scream*
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2013 09:03 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 11, 2013 12:58 PM (GFM2b)
There are far less expensive snake guns. I take a dirt-cheap .410/.45 LC Leinad double-barrel pistol, the one with the 11" barrel, in my knapsack or rucksack when I go camping or fishing. It's very primitive but very sturdy, and very effective for taking out snakes--of which there are plenty where I live. Doesn't weigh much either, but the recoil from a .410 in a relatively light pistol frame can be brutal, so there's that.
Posted by: troyriser at February 11, 2013 09:04 AM (vtiE6)
So if the LAPD can't find one lone left wing nut with a few guns how would they deal with thousands of newly criminalized citizens that decide to fight their government over their God given rights?
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honest answer????
Declare martial law, suspend habeas corpus.
I believe the appropriate verb would be "raze".
Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2013 09:04 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at February 11, 2013 09:04 AM (HEa5q)
>> think this dog show 'counter-programming' has some potential for some fresh jokes.
I wanna see Ace try to live blog both at the same time.
Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser at February 11, 2013 09:05 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2013 09:05 AM (C8mVl)
how would they deal with thousands of newly criminalized citizens that
decide to fight their government over their God given rights?
"Ah ha ha ha. You talk of God, plebeian? There is no God but ME."
-Barackanatun I
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 09:05 AM (4df7R)
Yeah. Me, too.
Though, this Texan is really getting jealous of all those other States' Open Carry.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 11, 2013 09:05 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 01:01 PM (GQ8sn)
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She's got a fine, fine body. But whenever I see a pic like this I try to imagine how these women look first thing in the morning when they come for their first cup of coffee. This one doesn't look that appealing.
Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2013 09:05 AM (drE9i)
???
Why? I mean I know logic is not a strong suit for gunbanners but Rifle/SG combo guns are pretty marginal as both rifles and shotguns, usually only having a single shot of each. Again intended for the outdoor enthusiast for light duty dual role as both a bird/small game gun, and a medium game rifle. Not a gun I would expect criminals to even want.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 11, 2013 09:05 AM (0q2P7)
What's that?
I mean...I know we are second class citizens, but there's something worse?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 12:43 PM (GsoHv)
Well Class III is how I should have written it. It means machine guns. From what I understood you could own them in jersey, after the usual licenses and fees. In reality you got a better chance of smoking pot with god than ever getting that license, but from what I heard jersey is a class III state. There was a gun store here that dealt with them for law enforcement, and you would hear them going off in the back every once in a while. I would think if a gun dealer could sell and service them here, then yeah there must be a rule allowing it. Of course it is jersey, so maybe there is an exception for "govt". We're facists like that.
Posted by: Berserker at February 11, 2013 09:06 AM (FMbng)
If they're willing to put up with how you look in the same circumstance, who are you to complain?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 11, 2013 09:06 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: troyriser at February 11, 2013 01:04 PM (vtiE6)
When you damn near trip over a rattler, you wouldn't even notice the recoil. Or hear the sound.
And the wide pattern would make it hard to miss with.
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 09:07 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2013 12:58 PM (9Bj8R)
Note.... the Marine Guards used during the recent inauguration, had their Bolts removed... a first its believed...
This administration is doing everything it can to destroy the miltary might of the US.... even to unilateraly getting rid of 1/3 MORE of our nuclear deterent...
Gays and Women on the line... no training money.... no support... ROEs designed to neuter us....
And one of the most stupid Muzzy Lovin idiots in Washington (and I mean unintelligent) in charge of defense????
Its all a pattern....
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 11, 2013 09:07 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser at February 11, 2013 01:05 PM (SUKHu)
"And a truly magnificent bitch has just taken center stage. But enough about Obama, let's check in at Westminster!"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 09:07 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 09:08 AM (l86i3)
From HeatherRadish's link, the PJ Media headline:
Obama on Pope: ‘I Have Appreciated Our Work Together Over These Last Four Years’
Yes, everyone. As expected, it's all about him.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 11, 2013 12:46 PM (4df7R)
Pity the Osservatore Romano headline can't read Pope on Obama: 'See you in hell, asshole'
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 11, 2013 09:08 AM (zF6Iw)
Seriously. with a bi-yearly legislature, holding up a pro-gun law needs to become a career-death-penalty.
The retard responsible needs to be ridden out of town on a rail.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 09:08 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 11, 2013 01:05 PM (0q2P7)
Because it SOUNDS SCARY.
"Oooh, shotguns are scary. So are rifles. OMG you can buy shotgun/rifle COMBOS?! Ban that shit stat!"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 11, 2013 09:09 AM (4df7R)
would they deal with thousands of newly criminalized citizens that
decide to fight their government over their God given rights?
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honest answer????
Declare martial law, suspend habeas corpus.
I believe the appropriate verb would be "raze".
Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2013 01:04 PM (nELVU)
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Loudspeaker: DO NOT BOARD THE EVEN NUMBERED BUSES. BOARD ONLY THE ODD NUMBERED BUSES............
Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2013 09:09 AM (drE9i)
Posted by: ManeiNeko at February 11, 2013 09:10 AM (TiE76)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 11, 2013 01:08 PM (l86i3)
No kidding.
That comment seriously reminds me of a grouse hunting trip with 3 other guys.
One of them almost tripped over a rattler.
The rest of us seriously thought he shot his foot off with his 12 gauge.
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 09:11 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 11, 2013 01:06 PM (8y9MW)
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I am always tanned, rested, and ready. 
Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2013 09:12 AM (drE9i)
Ah yes, the Lewis and Clark expedition.
Boooyaaahhhh!!!!
The DC Cir gravely disappointed. The dissent's ruling is so obviously correct.
DC told the Sup. Ct. it's ok to ban handguns because people can have semiauto rifles in the home. Sup. Ct. told them to fuck off.
Now, back in the DC Cir., DC claims it's ok to ban semiauto rifles because people can have handguns.
Seriously. What. The. Fuck. And two repub. appointees bought this shit.
Kavanaugh's dissent is dead fucking on.
Posted by: Prescient11 at February 11, 2013 09:13 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Lauren at February 11, 2013 09:14 AM (wsGWu)
Mmmm, tasty little grouses.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2013 09:15 AM (673KB)
Stroke of the pen, law of the land.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 09:16 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Prescient11 at February 11, 2013 01:13 PM (tVTLU)
Yeah.... what part of 'shall not be infringed' is hard to understand?
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 11, 2013 09:16 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2013 01:05 PM (drE9i)
Paleeeese.....you'd give your left nut to test that theory. And I'd bet my left boob you'd be wrong.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at February 11, 2013 09:16 AM (X6akg)
So if the LAPD can't find one lone left wing nut with a few guns how would they deal with thousands of newly criminalized citizens that decide to fight their government over their God given rights?
IF they decide to fight. That's the great unknown.
I'm not slamming my fellow Morons, but everyone's a hero until the knock at the door.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 11, 2013 09:17 AM (zF6Iw)
Don't wait for the knock on the door.
Alamo = bad plan
Safe house = good plan
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 09:18 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: jakeman, Assault V2.0 at February 11, 2013 09:18 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 11, 2013 12:02 PM (U3ERv)
Rampant cretinism among the ruling class, most likely caused by inbreeding.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at February 11, 2013 09:20 AM (KSjsb)
Paleeeese.....you'd give your left nut to test that theory. And I'd bet my left boob you'd be wrong.
I'd ask for pix before betting, Soona.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 11, 2013 09:20 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 11, 2013 01:17 PM (zF6Iw)
We'll probably all find out the stuff we're made of over the next 10 years or so.
Posted by: troyriser at February 11, 2013 09:22 AM (vtiE6)
I'm not slamming my fellow Morons, but everyone's a hero until the knock at the door.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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I will be mobile before the knock on the door comes.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 11, 2013 09:22 AM (uhftQ)
The 'tards in the CA state legislature are reacting to this with a poorly written law that will ban expensive drillings as well.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 11, 2013 09:23 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Rob in Katy at February 11, 2013 09:25 AM (gdGJ1)
Right now, they're just throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks.
Posted by: RayJ at February 11, 2013 09:27 AM (pI/IV)
Posted by: Jean at February 11, 2013 09:30 AM (Io7hX)
Indeed....
you know your neighbors, and if these fuckers work en massed I hope we'll all know what to do.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2013 09:33 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: E. at February 11, 2013 09:36 AM (+P7bM)
Posted by: bonhomme at February 11, 2013 09:38 AM (99E5V)
Gander Mountain's Gun Sale Flyer wasn't mailed to postal patrons, nor are printed copies available in the store (at least in the Rochester area)...because of (or fear from) the NY Safe Act. You can't hardly own and now even talk about, getting a firearm in this great state.
And they say that no one takes a backseat to George Bush as the master shredder of the Constitution.
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