August 21, 2013

"I'm Not Paranoid," Insists Noted Paranoid
— Ace

Commenters, what would I do without them. I saw this bandied around in the last thread and, even if it is easy gimme pseudocontent, well, it's still kind of important.

The mentality here. It's incredible. The left is now expressly Anti-Enlightenment. Nothing is about actual government policy now; everything is expressly about Safeguarding the Privileges and Dignity of the Princeps.

When's the last time Chris Matthews actually cared about some issue that wasn't obviously a proxy for his cultish fanboy impulse to Praise the Lord Obama and Smite the Disbelievers?

Our politics have become retarded (again, I mean this in both the acceptable and unacceptable meanings of the word) by a religious mania not seen since... I don't know when.

I have long contended that man is a fundamentally religious animal -- and I don't necessarily mean that in a good way -- and that many people who consider themselves above religion are actually quite beneath it, and, rather than subscribe to a conventional religion in which their desire for transcendence can be more conventionally satisfied, instead channel their religious impulses into areas which are not by nature religious and which by nature must not be religious.

Our politics now is simply about a god, and I mean the god Obama. And even for those who may doubt the actual divinity of the Unaccomplished One --

Religious hysteria does not require a god. Religious hysteria only requires Dogma & a Devil.

We would be the Devil, here.

So here is noted paranoid and homoerotic political theorist Chris Matthews now speculating that people refer to "Obama" as "Obama" and not "President Obama" for the same reason that non-Christians might call Jesus "Jesus" and not "the Christ Jesus."

God knows we've never referred to previous presidents by their last name only. And God knows we've never refused to grant presidents we don't actually support the full Dignity of their Stately Titles.

On Tuesday, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews claimed that conservatives and Republicans are attempting to “delegitimize” President Obama by calling him “Obama” or “a liberal leader,” Matthews said.

“It seems there’s a very interesting compelling continuing effort to delegitimize this president,” he told “Bush’s Brain” author Wayne Slater.

“People on the right say he’s a disaster, which he’s not. Look at what he’s already accomplished,” he added, apparently oblivious to Obama’s record deficits, failed foreign policy and the overall state of the economy.

“But they first of all referred to him, not as the ‘President of the United States’ but as a ‘liberal leader.’ They refer to the health care act of 2010 as ‘a bill.’ They refer to him as ‘Obama.’ They don’t say the ‘the president.’ They don’t say the ‘a law.’ They don’t even speak the language we normally speak in civilized political debate,” he added, as though he would know anything about “civilized political debate.”

“They’ve changed it so much that he’s actually not really supposed to be there,” he continued.

Sounding more like a tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorist than a thoughtful political pundit, Matthews insisted it was all part of a concerted effort to create the conditions where history would regard Obama as an illegitimate president, Noah Rothman added.

“And I’m not paranoid,” he concluded.

“I think that’s right,” Slater said, agreeing with Matthews.

According to Slater, opposition to Obamacare stems from the name that has even been adopted by Obama.

“Get him off the record books,” Matthews added.

Video at the link.

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But Bush wasn't god.

I'd also note this idea comes from the same crowd who spent six of Bush's eight years saying, "My President is Josiah Bartlett." (The TV President on that stupid Aaron Sorkin show.)


Posted by: Ace at 11:07 AM | Comments (454)
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1 This Matthews guy...not so bright.

Posted by: Countrysquire, back just for this comment at August 21, 2013 11:09 AM (LSJmV)

2 Blessed be His name. Amen.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at August 21, 2013 11:09 AM (mMkoO)

Posted by: My Life With Thrill Kill Kult at August 21, 2013 11:10 AM (7zLjC)

4 Qweefie Olbermann always called GWB MISTER Bush.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 21, 2013 11:10 AM (HDgX3)

5 Doesn't Matthews know we call him SCOAMF?

Posted by: dantesed at August 21, 2013 11:10 AM (9nLXu)

6 So what does he think of those of who refer to Obama as a SCOAMT?

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2013 11:11 AM (zoehZ)

7 Is it OK if I choose capitalism as my religion?

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at August 21, 2013 11:11 AM (epxV4)

8 Failure to have leg tingles is racist.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 21, 2013 11:11 AM (Hx5uv)

9 Nope, Chrissy isn't paranoid.  He's delusional.

Posted by: huerfano at August 21, 2013 11:11 AM (bAGA/)

10 What the fuck happened to Chrissie? Once upon a time, not that long ago really, he was actually a coherent political analyst. Yeah he was a lib then too, but he wasn't bat shit crazy. It's amazing what Obama has done to once sane, normal people....turned them into blithering idiots.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 21, 2013 11:11 AM (HDgX3)

11 Bless his heart.

Posted by: Mayor Filner at August 21, 2013 11:11 AM (xZ8Ay)

12 Me, I prefer the version with "tyrant". How about TFG?

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2013 11:12 AM (zoehZ)

13 Me <--- Paranoid and proud of it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 11:12 AM (IXrOn)

14 Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, Mr. Matthews.

Posted by: Countrysquire, back just for this comment at August 21, 2013 11:12 AM (LSJmV)

15 If I hate his white 1/2 as much as his black 1/2 am I a neo-Black Panther as well as a neo-Confederate?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 21, 2013 11:13 AM (HDgX3)

16 Damn sock.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 21, 2013 11:13 AM (kl3xJ)

17 Just chuck a definite article in front of it to make it a title, yeah? It's more respectful that way: The Obama The SCOAMF The Useless Kenyan Cocksucker.

Posted by: The Stark Dickflüssig at August 21, 2013 11:13 AM (Td7pU)

18 Do you think Tingles would hang in such a low place as this where we speak our mind and if sound like dumbasses we get called out on it. His extra thin skin would never be able to handle the harsh words of the 'ron and 'ronettes and given that the average sea cucumber is at least 15x more intelligent than him, he might have a hard time understanding us anyway.

Posted by: Penfold at August 21, 2013 11:13 AM (Fbt5B)

19 as i already said on last thread

Bush=Boosh= racist?
clinton = clinton = racist?
Obama=Obama=Racist!

Mathews= crank
only true statement.

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2013 11:13 AM (nqBYe)

20

I'm a Christian, and I've refered to Jesus Christ as just "Jesus".

Does that mean I'm a bad person bound for the bar-be-que of souls?

 

 

BTW:  I've heard that "Chris Matthews" is Gaelic for "drooling lickspittle".

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Spleen! Now with Oxidizers! at August 21, 2013 11:13 AM (hLRSq)

21 We would be the Devil, here.

So THAT'S why I've got these pointy things on my cock!

Posted by: joncelli at August 21, 2013 11:14 AM (RD7QR)

22

Um, shouldn't that be "PRESIDENT Bush's Brain?"

 

Or is the irony lost on this rocket surgeon?

Posted by: speedster1 at August 21, 2013 11:14 AM (v40Bj)

23 I can't even call the SCOAMF by his real name. So, there's that.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 11:14 AM (IXrOn)

24 From the Gospel according to Jeantel: That's real retarded, sir.

Posted by: USA at August 21, 2013 11:14 AM (VIaw0)

25 >>>The left is now expressly Anti-Enlightenment. Nothing is about actual government policy now; everything is expressly about Safeguarding the Privileges and Dignity of the Princeps.

Gal-darnit, Ace, you use your tongue purttier than a twenty-dollar whore.

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 21, 2013 11:14 AM (Iyg03)

26 What the fuck happened to Chrissie? Once upon a time, not that long ago really, he was actually a coherent political analyst. Yeah he was a lib then too, but he wasn't bat shit crazy. It's amazing what Obama has done to once sane, normal people....turned them into blithering idiots. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 21, 2013 03:11 PM


Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.


Chris has just been freed to be his better self.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at August 21, 2013 11:15 AM (bAGA/)

27 Yep. He's now President Voldemort. Or HWMNBN.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 21, 2013 11:15 AM (T0NGe)

28 More seriously, anybody in North Korea who doesn't yell at the top of their lungs for the Dear Leader is suspect, and that's the America Chris wants, with Obama as Kim.

Posted by: joncelli at August 21, 2013 11:16 AM (RD7QR)

29 Chris Matthews needs detox very badly.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 21, 2013 11:16 AM (71LDo)

30 Jeebus Christ, Matthews is a knob.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 21, 2013 11:16 AM (ZshNr)

31 Our politics now is simply about a god, and I mean the god Obama. And even for those who may doubt the actual divinity of the Unaccomplished One -- Religious hysteria does not require a god. Religious hysteria only requires Dogma & a Devil. We would be the Devil, here. So here is noted paranoid and homoerotic political theorist now speculating that people refer to "Obama" as "Obama" and not "President Obama" for the same reason that non-Christians might call Jesus "Jesus" and not "the Christ Jesus." ************** You could see this all setting up--- the opposite side of this coin--- *if* Bush was responsible for everything--then the answer to Bush would be---god like--Obama. Replacing Bush--with Obama would solve everything. Scapegoating is always the easiest answer for everyone--it shuts down thinking and complicated answers. Scapegoating might always be the first sign of mass psychosis. Voici.

Posted by: tasker at August 21, 2013 11:16 AM (r2PLg)

32 so we cannot say Barak Hussein Obama.
nor can we say Obama.
so Barak then Chris?

can that be approved sir?

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2013 11:16 AM (nqBYe)

33 Why doesn't Tingles just come out and say that it's Blasphemy?
That little retarded kid isn't the only one praying to TFG.

Posted by: real joe at August 21, 2013 11:17 AM (fqNGQ)

34 Chrissy Matthews would wish he had a brain if he was aware enough to realize he has none.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 11:17 AM (5VGZi)

35

S I cna't call dick dribble anymore?

Posted by: wrg500 at August 21, 2013 11:17 AM (mwctc)

36 Chris Matthews hides his tears in the shower.

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 21, 2013 11:17 AM (Iyg03)

37 Excerrent Ace.

The most sanctimony, the most "religiousity" comes from those mock those who believe that God is the creator, and/or Christ is King.

Let me spell it out for you, Chrissy. My messiah forgives all sins, and if I follow his path, I can be lead to redemption.

Your messiah can't even pronounce "corpsman" correctly.

And yet, we're the idiots? 

Posted by: Ed Angrier at August 21, 2013 11:17 AM (qxcKC)

38 Sounding more like a tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorist than a thoughtful political pundit, Matthews insisted it was all part of a concerted effort to create the conditions where history would regard Obama as an illegitimate president, Noah Rothman added. Illegitimate no. Harmful yes.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 21, 2013 11:17 AM (2NVwG)

39 MSNBC is just one, long clown show - right down to the audience of frightened children.

Posted by: mrp at August 21, 2013 11:18 AM (HjPtV)

40 I remember that Schoolhouse Rock video on tv when I was a little boy growing up in Canada.  I didn't understand some of it because Canada, but I did later on.  It's still awesome today as it was back then.

Posted by: EC at August 21, 2013 11:18 AM (GQ8sn)

41 Chris Matthews. Our own.personal.asshole.

Posted by: John Kerry at August 21, 2013 11:18 AM (QDk4A)

42 Chris Matthews would be  privileged  to  be  able  to design the death camps.  I bet they'd be more efficient than the ones from the last century too.

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2013 11:19 AM (VndSC)

43 Chris Matthews hides his tears in the shower.

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 21, 2013 03:17 PM (Iyg03)



New Director's Cut of Blade Runner:


"All those moments will be lost...in time...like tears in the shower.  Time to die."



Posted by: EC at August 21, 2013 11:19 AM (GQ8sn)

44 "Religious hysteria does not require a god. Religious hysteria only requires Dogma & a Devil." Brilliant line. I'm going to steal it in my private conversations. I go to AA meetings and daily try to keep the alcoholism demon at bay. It's a spiritual program. We have our devil (alcohol) and we have our dogma - 12 steps, 12 traditions. It is life-saving for me and many others. And it's why I'm libertarian. No one in AA has any agenda to bother anyone not in AA. We can have our devil and dogma and some vague conception of a "higher power" but no one else need agree or otherwise change their life at all.

Posted by: A Reasonable Man at August 21, 2013 11:19 AM (FOoHu)

45 Our politics now is simply about a god, and I mean the god Obama. Fuck obama.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 11:20 AM (p9JxP)

46 OT/ I see Drudge has the siren going for some pretty disturbing NSA news....

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at August 21, 2013 11:20 AM (9+ccr)

47

The Barakhenatening.

I've been saying for years that Obama was our Akhenaten.  History will not be kind to him.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2013 11:20 AM (7zLjC)

48

Counter theory.

Obama went along with the name "Obamacare" because he loves the sound of his own name (and figures it'll never get overturned and thus he'll be a part of the lexicon forever.)

 

Mine is actually more reasonable and likely that Tingles.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 21, 2013 11:20 AM (GaqMa)

49 I don't know what pisses me off more; that this gin soaked balloon headed idiot has his own TV show, or that doughnut bloated lazy idiot sportwriter Peter King has his own Sports Illustrated column.

Posted by: UGAdawg at August 21, 2013 11:20 AM (JS6HU)

50 They are right.  I should be called Almighty Bronco Bama by my loving subjects.  I mean victims.  I mean, uh, racist whatevs.

Posted by: Bronco Bama at August 21, 2013 11:20 AM (1I4sj)

51 I think that President Obama should pass a law that everybody make the same money yearly so that everyone is equal. This way everyone will be happy and not jealous. I say evryone should make about $20,000 a year and rest go to the government to take care of us. This would be perfect for evryone and especially persons of color.

Posted by: LaQuisha Largess' at August 21, 2013 11:20 AM (R8X+X)

52 Titles must be earned.

Posted by: Icedog at August 21, 2013 11:20 AM (w4XAr)

53 That's not paranoia, that's pathological chronic dissociation.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 21, 2013 11:20 AM (qyfb5)

54

In my career I've interacted with retired military officers, elected officials, PhDs, MDs, corporate bigwigs, etc etc.

 

Without exceptions, the ones who insisted that others used their titles, whether it be Colonel,  Delegate,  or Doctor, have been complete and utter insecure assholes.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 21, 2013 11:20 AM (tVWQB)

55 I'll refer to him as I please, tfg ain't no fuckin' deity . Although I was pretty taken with Jeff's "prince faggot lips". Subtle yet descriptive.

Posted by: awkward davies at August 21, 2013 11:21 AM (WK8VM)

56 Pretty sure MSDNC has plenty of tape of Pissy Chrissy saying both 'Bush' and 'Clinton' without their titles. Dean Wormer tried warning you Chris.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at August 21, 2013 11:21 AM (9Bdcz)

57 So if the Rodeo Clown had simply referred to him as President Obama, all would have been fine?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2013 11:21 AM (SfGRU)

58

"Religious hysteria does not require a god. Religious hysteria only requires Dogma & a Devil."

Thanks Ace, I'm stealing this one.

Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 21, 2013 11:21 AM (oDCMR)

59 I've been born again.

I accept President Obama as my personal savior.

Does it come with a phone?

Posted by: Kensington at August 21, 2013 11:21 AM (/AHDz)

60
Yep, there must be a video out there by now of at least 2 minutes long of Matthews calling President Bush just 'Bush' hundreds of times.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 21, 2013 11:21 AM (uX+Qq)

61 New Director's Cut of Blade Runner: "All those moments will be lost...in time...like tears in the shower. Time to die." Cut longways, Chrissy. Not across.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 11:21 AM (p9JxP)

62 I just. What with the what now? I mean, one of the very first things I noticed was the whole "Bush's Brain" point and just. Wow. Massive alcoholism is a helluva thing. ace, linking the no more kings clip is faboo.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 21, 2013 11:22 AM (VtjlW)

63 Piss Be Upon Him

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 11:22 AM (8sCoq)

64 But notice how it's always, always The Prophet Muhammad. Every God damn time.

Posted by: Lauren at August 21, 2013 11:22 AM (ELdpj)

65

“People on the right say he’s a disaster, which he’s not. Look at what he’s already accomplished,” he added, apparently oblivious to Obama’s record deficits, failed foreign policy and the overall state of the economy.

 

Love is blind.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2013 11:22 AM (wAQA5)

66

"Replacing Bush--with Obama would solve everything."

 

 

I can remember back in 2008 when supposedly - rumored, that is - serious commenters in the MSM wanted Bush to resign immediately so the brilliant Obama could start to repair all of the damage.  How long ago that seems now.

 

 

OMG!  I wrote Bush!  And Obama!  Without the titles!  Forgive me my trespasses, for mercy's sake!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Spleen! Now with Oxidizers! at August 21, 2013 11:23 AM (hLRSq)

67 "I'm not paranoid."

Of course not, Chrissy.  You're also not a drooling left-wing retard.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 21, 2013 11:23 AM (WMsq+)

68 I suppose   FDR,   Ike,   JFK and   LBJ  are  all  supposed to be rolling in their graves according to Matthews.

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2013 11:23 AM (VndSC)

69 Cultish fanboy is a euphemism for something more...intimate, I presume.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 11:23 AM (Tnlh/)

70 In OT nascar news, for fans of racing the downside of the new Fox Sports 1 channel is the death of Speed. Speed was the best channel for all things motorsports, though it had devolved into Nascar 24/7 on the weekends and retard reality TV (but with some sort of gearhead and/or redneck twist during the week.) But it still managed to cover some more obscure races and series in America and around the world. But no more. Fox turned Speed into Fox Sports 1, their new ESPN killer. it still has much of the Nascar stuff, but the more obscure stuff is now pushed off to Fox Sports 2 (formerly Fuel TV). Problem is most Americans don't, and can't, get FS2. Which is annoying. I understand. There's more money in FS1 having another NFL talking heads show than an obscure race like tonight's Modifieds race from Bristol.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 21, 2013 11:24 AM (ZPrif)

71 “People on the right say he’s a disaster, which he’s not. Look at what he’s already accomplished.”

Yes, by all means, let's.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 21, 2013 11:24 AM (WMsq+)

72
Jesse Watters tangled with George Clooney on the Red Carpet when Jesse called Obama by his last name.


"He's the president of the United States. Not 'Obama.' HeÂ’s the president of the United States," Clooney told Watters.



Clooney failed to note he frequently called President Bush by his last name, but that must not matter because he's a republican?  Just another Hollywood asshole in a long line of assholes.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 21, 2013 11:24 AM (pJF+c)

73 Pretty 22 Carat for an impromptu, off-the-cuff, piece, Ace.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 11:24 AM (IXrOn)

74 BUCK OFAMA

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 21, 2013 11:24 AM (HDgX3)

75

we should all be given vouchers to use whatever title we want to call him

not only will it save money but create jobs and restore our cities to their former glory

Posted by: navycopjoe at August 21, 2013 11:25 AM (V75zy)

76 Who but someone addressing the president bothers saying it? Their first instinct is to spin harmless political speech into a dark conspiracy which needs punishment. Creepy.

Posted by: Beagle at August 21, 2013 11:25 AM (sOtz/)

77 Cultish fanboy is a euphemism for something more...intimate, I presume. Dick slurping.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 11:25 AM (p9JxP)

78 by a religious mania not seen since... I don't know when. ********** I wasn't that old but--Kennedy? The Dems hae made a great run of it. First Catholic Irish President--and most Irish Catholics vote Dem as part of their identity. Obama--first African American President--about seals the fact that most African Americans now vote Dem as part of their identity. Hillary.......? Then fist Latino President. Fini.

Posted by: tasker at August 21, 2013 11:25 AM (r2PLg)

79 Chris Matthews makes an excellent point.

Also, bugs. *zprack*

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at August 21, 2013 11:25 AM (/AHDz)

80 Chris Mathews demonstrates what happens to Scotch drinkers. Its not pretty. Stick with Bourbon.

Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 21, 2013 11:25 AM (oDCMR)

81 If only someone could search the transcript archive of Hardball, and nail down an exact count of how many times Chris did or did not honor the junior Bush with his proper executive title. *taps his foot impatiently*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 21, 2013 11:26 AM (kqGWM)

82 10 What the fuck happened to Chrissie? Once upon a time, not that long ago really, he was actually a coherent political analyst. Yeah he was a lib then too, but he wasn't bat shit crazy. It's amazing what Obama has done to once sane, normal people....turned them into blithering idiots. 

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 21, 2013 03:11 PM (HDgX3)

Feedback.   A choice generates effects that feed further choices down that path. 

The path of leftism leads to an irrational, truth-denying mind.  

So what happened to Chrissie?   Leftism.   Friends don't let friends do leftism.    

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 21, 2013 11:26 AM (v3pYe)

83 we should all be given vouchers to use whatever title we want to call him
not only will it save money but create jobs and restore our cities to their former glory

Posted by: navycopjoe at August 21, 2013 03:25 PM (V75zy)



The vouchers thing is setting up to be a new meme.


Posted by: EC at August 21, 2013 11:26 AM (GQ8sn)

84 23 I can't even call the SCOAMF by his real name. So, there's that. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 03:14 PM (IXrOn) And what would that be? I contend that we still don't know.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 11:26 AM (Tnlh/)

85 Chris Mathews demonstrates what happens to Scotch drinkers.

***

"Scotch drinkers." Is that like choad smokers or turd burglars?

Posted by: cool arrow at August 21, 2013 11:27 AM (WMsq+)

86 Of course, non-Nascar motorsports fans were annoyed as Speed -- which started off covering all racing around the world -- became more Nascar 24/7 cause that's what drew ratings.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 21, 2013 11:27 AM (ZPrif)

87

Lots of Christians, when they want to invoke the name of Jesus, they will exaggerate the word "JJJJEEEEEEEEEEESUSSSSSSSSSS" because they  believe the name itself has qualities of healing, warding off bad spirits, etc.

 

The only time I ever hear anyone invoke  a fuller name is when the decidedly non-religious refer to Jesus H. Christ. 

 

I suspect mathews doesn't understand the difference. 

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2013 11:27 AM (TOk1P)

88

If it's any consolation to Tingles, I can say that whenever I see  TFG's  puss on TV, I don't say  "Oh,   there's  Obama".  It's "Oh, there's that F*cking Jagoff".

Every single time.

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2013 11:27 AM (VndSC)

89 I like the little "Citizen Cruz" icon in the bottom of the screen.

Posted by: Countrysquire, back just for this comment at August 21, 2013 11:27 AM (LSJmV)

90 I suppose FDR, Ike, JFK and LBJ are all supposed to be rolling in their graves according to Matthews. Hopefully, burning in hell.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 11:27 AM (p9JxP)

91

I wasn't that old but--Kennedy?

 

 

On second thought, let's not go to Camelot.  It's a silly place.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2013 11:27 AM (7zLjC)

92 And, it's all because of PR and Marketing. Something Boner & Co. can't figure out. Flying Pig Alert: Leftist Icon Noam Chomsky Says Sarah Palin Was Right About ObamaÂ… Zip: "The end of the world canÂ’t be far away." hehe http://tinyurl.com/mmc65kh

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 11:27 AM (IXrOn)

93 The religious atheists are the worst of the bunch. Like Marx, they think that religion is a source of bad human traits and if religion were just eliminated, people would be altruistic and kind. They really do believe that human nature is fundamentally good and is only corrupted by...well...institutions created by human nature. Christianity has had a long history of schisms and reformation. That's where religious freedom and freedom of speech comes from: Mostly Protestants who figured it was better to just get along and agree to disagree rather than trying to convert or conquer each other.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 21, 2013 11:27 AM (T0NGe)

94 >>>"Religious hysteria does not require a god. Religious hysteria only requires Dogma & a Devil." Brilliant line

I know this.

Posted by: ace, who's really not as modest as you might hope at August 21, 2013 11:27 AM (/IWYB)

95 My drooleth cup runneth over.

Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at August 21, 2013 11:28 AM (UzPAd)

96 " man is a fundamentally religious animal " Some (and I mean me) might argue that is because God does exist and because of God's existence and abundance of love there is a natural yearning in each of us for God. I would say it isn't that man is fundamentally a religious animal, but that man possesses these three qualities: 1. An underlying yearning that cannot be satisfied in our life. 2. Recognition of our own faults/sinfulness. 3. A need to reconcile #2 with #1 - a form of salvation/atonement. Religion accounts for these three qualities. In Christianity, man years for God, because like the gravitational force of the sun, his love pulls us toward him. We recognize that our own sinfulness keeps us from reaching him. But there is a way to atone for our sins. There is a path toward salvation. For leftist, government and cult figures is how they account for these three qualities. They yearn for something perfect, the have guilt (i.e., sinfulness), and they atone for it. Unfortunately, they atone for it through liberal policies. The difference between the two groups is this: Religious people know that perfection cannot be obtained on earth because God is perfection, further, because they have accepted God, they find a way to quench that deep yearning. Leftist never quench that yearning because they are missing the cause of it - God's love. That's my theory anyway.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2013 11:28 AM (gw5z4)

97   I can't even call the SCOAMF by his real name.  So, there's that.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 03:14 PM (IXrOn)

 And what would that be? I contend that we still don't know. 
Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 03:26 PM (Tnlh/)


C'mon, he's told us already.  It's Steve.  

Wait, he lies about everything, doesn't he ... Dangit!  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 21, 2013 11:28 AM (v3pYe)

98 Hopefully, burning in hell.

***

Surely not Ike.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 21, 2013 11:28 AM (WMsq+)

99
to be fair:

I've also noticed a lack of "Predident" when referring to the SCOAMF.  But I believe that is mostly because Obama is such a unique name that there is no need to qualify it.  Nobody's going to be confused with an NFL running-back named "Obama" in the same way there was a Reggie Bush and a George Bush at the same time in popular culture.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 21, 2013 11:28 AM (UypUQ)

100

83  weapons grade stupid should be elevated to its true glory

plus I love mocking the fool

Posted by: navycopjoe at August 21, 2013 11:28 AM (V75zy)

101 One might have thought that the worship would have died down a bit after four years, but no, even in January of 2013 the Newsweek cover keep lifting up the faux messiah:. http://tinyurl.com/nx6zl8s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 21, 2013 11:28 AM (2Tv3A)

102 OMG! I wrote Bush! And Obama! Without the titles! Forgive me my trespasses, for mercy's sake! Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Spleen! Now with Oxidizers! at August 21, 2013 03:23 PM (hLRSq) **************** LOL! Someone suggested a mash up of Matthews spewing "Obama" himself. I don't know if Matthew's brain remembers what his mouth is saying....

Posted by: tasker at August 21, 2013 11:28 AM (r2PLg)

103 Merovign, you got to admit all these progressive-socialist types who chatter and prattle too much to dissuade the listeners that they have no brains to actually claim.  In fact that organic head of lettuce at the food co-op has more brain power than these fools. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 11:29 AM (5VGZi)

104 >“People on the right say he’s a disaster, which he’s not. Look at what he’s already accomplished.”



Not all accomplishments are good. Look at what Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker 'accomplished'  in just a few years' time. Look at what Jim Jones 'accomplished' in Jonestown, Guyana.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 11:29 AM (8sCoq)

105 Matthews brain also is now 1) old and 2) pickled. That extra 10-15 years of age and alcohol pickling is the difference between 2000-era Matthews and 2013-era Matthews. Cognitive decline makes thinking hard.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 21, 2013 11:29 AM (ZPrif)

106

"President Voldemort- He Who Must Not Be Named". LOL

 

I had a boss here several years ago, who was fired ignominiously; since then, they have done everything they could to remove his name from documents, letters, etc. It is almost comical.

 

There was a Warhammer 40,000 book where the Chaos warleader was referred to as "He Who's Name Must Not Be Spoken", and the followers would put their hands over their mouths whenever they said that. If anyone around here understood the reference, I would do that when referring to the former boss. Maybe we could start doing that when we say "Obama"?

Posted by: DaveinNC at August 21, 2013 11:29 AM (boNGU)

107 Chris Mathews demonstrates what happens to Scotch drinkers. o-oh

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 11:29 AM (IXrOn)

108 Just another liberal double standard.

Posted by: NC Ref at August 21, 2013 11:29 AM (Myqtp)

109 "W"?
"Shrub"

Yeah, nothing but reverence there.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2013 11:29 AM (UrtRh)

110 "I suppose FDR, Ike, JFK and LBJ are all supposed to be rolling in their graves according to Matthews.


Hopefully, burning in hell."
===============

Err ah, how much longer is this supposed to go on? How many eons have I been in this pit of fire already?

Posted by: JFK's Soul at August 21, 2013 11:29 AM (/AHDz)

111

I'm trying.   I really am.  You know, to laugh.  It's becoming harder to every day. 

 

These people want us dead.

Posted by: Soona at August 21, 2013 11:29 AM (MdA2X)

112 Obama--first HALFrican American President--about seals the fact that most African Americans now vote Dem as part of their identity. Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 11:30 AM (p9JxP)

113 Going to start wearing a ball cap and saying "I'm Chris Lane".

Posted by: wrg500 at August 21, 2013 11:30 AM (mwctc)

114

Delegitimizing?

 

Obama is Nixon but worse, you drunk toad.

Posted by: Bigby's Gripping Hand at August 21, 2013 11:30 AM (3ZtZW)

115

So what are we going to call Hillary when she ascends the throne?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 21, 2013 11:30 AM (EGPJQ)

116

 In fact that organic head of lettuce at the food co-op has more brain power than these fools.

 

 

Yu shouldn't  mock the Almighty Ralph!

Posted by: Re-Run at August 21, 2013 11:30 AM (7zLjC)

117 These people want us dead.

***

The feeling is mutual.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 21, 2013 11:30 AM (WMsq+)

118 St. Cankles.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 11:30 AM (5VGZi)

119 93 The religious atheists are the worst of the bunch. Like Marx, they think that religion is a source of bad human traits and if religion were just eliminated, people would be altruistic and kind. They really do believe that human nature is fundamentally good and is only corrupted by...well...institutions created by human nature. 

Posted by: AmishDude at August 21, 2013 03:27 PM (T0NGe)


Never realizing that when you boil it down, religion is just a set of beliefs - all of us have a religion - some more tested and coherent than others. 

When they start trying to argue that they don't have any beliefs, that's when you realized they have embrace irrationality in defense of their atheism.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 21, 2013 11:31 AM (oY6Yp)

120 64 But notice how it's always, always The Prophet Muhammad. Every God damn time. Posted by: Lauren at August 21, 2013 03:22 PM (ELdpj) And the *Holy* Koran.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 11:31 AM (Tnlh/)

121 Of course there countless examples of the Left calling Bush "Bush" but when it comes to "disrespect" (by Tingles's definition) nothing, and I mean nothing, tops Olberdouche's speshul komments during his MSDNC days. And on that subject, I don't remember Olberdouche ever referring to "Mayor" Giuliani either. The Douche always called him "Rudolfo Giuliani." Emphasis on the "Rudolfo" as if having an Italian name makes one a criminal.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 21, 2013 11:31 AM (7ObY1)

122

>>>These people want us dead.

 

 

We are the infidel.

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2013 11:31 AM (VndSC)

123 94 >>>"Religious hysteria does not require a god. Religious hysteria only requires Dogma a Devil." Brilliant line I know this. Posted by: ace, who's really not as modest as you might hope at August 21, 2013 03:27 PM (/IWYB) *********** I'm pretty sure you stole that first line from me!

Posted by: Matt Damon! at August 21, 2013 11:31 AM (r2PLg)

124 I predict Cankles will be declared the new C-word in 2015.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 21, 2013 11:31 AM (ZPrif)

125 Molly Ivins just made an interesting point on Hardball...

Posted by: X at August 21, 2013 11:31 AM (KHo8t)

126 Can we say: Mr. NoPresident? Mr. ZeroPresident? Mr. SansPresident? Mr. NullPresident? Mr. NotMyPresident? Mr. ImpeachPresident?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 11:31 AM (IXrOn)

127 So I guess that Mathews was just as upset about this, right?

http://tinyurl.com/lkfl8sn

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2013 11:31 AM (SfGRU)

128 "...they think that religion is a source of bad human traits and if religion were just eliminated, people would be altruistic and kind. They really do believe that human nature is fundamentally good and is only corrupted by...well...institutions created by human nature. " Well stated.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 21, 2013 11:32 AM (2Tv3A)

129 I like Anna Puma's "Gaylord Fokker" to refer to the current occupant of the Oval Orifice.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 21, 2013 11:32 AM (B/VB5)

130 As a matter of style, in writing I'd use "President Obama" the first time his name came up and then "Obama" afterwards. One thing I wouldn't do is refer to him as "Mr. Obama" ... which the MFM and the left (BIRM) did constantly with President Bush. So fuck off, Chrissie.

Posted by: Andy at August 21, 2013 11:32 AM (53Nsb)

131 I'd love to see a realtime BAC graphic on "Hardballs, with Christopher Matthews".  It'd start off at about 0.18, then he'd take a commercial break and it'd be around 0.20.  Then as the hour wore on it'd dip back down to 0.16, then just before closing up it'd be back up around 0.24.


Posted by: bonhomme at August 21, 2013 11:32 AM (WhJf8)

132 >>>me (and I mean me) might argue that is because God does exist and because of God's existence and abundance of love there is a natural yearning in each of us for God. I would say it isn't that man is fundamentally a religious animal, but that man possesses these three qualities:

i would propose a contrary theory that man understands how small he is in a world so enormous and that, as Einstein said, "our sense of god is our sense of wonder about the universe."

 I would also note the miracle of life and birth and the cycles of the stars falls under the category of Sufficiently Advanced Technology is Indistinguishable From Magic, and that life and time and matter are hellaciously advanced technologies, thus rooting in every human being a sense of Awe about the Infinite in Eternal, which we ultimately give the name "God."


Posted by: ace at August 21, 2013 11:32 AM (/IWYB)

133 Hopefully, burning in hell. *** Surely not Ike. Sorry. No, not Ike. Eyes focused on the capital letters & didn't even see Ike in there. (and I read it twice!)

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 11:32 AM (p9JxP)

134  Look at what Jim Jones 'accomplished' in Jonestown, Guyana.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 03:29 PM (8sCoq)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

 

Little did we know that Jonestown was fortelling the future of the US.

Posted by: Soona at August 21, 2013 11:33 AM (MdA2X)

135

>>>The only time I ever hear anyone invoke a fuller name is when the decidedly non-religious refer to Jesus H. Christ.
.

.You forgot the Tap Dancing and crutch part.

Posted by: Registered Voter at August 21, 2013 11:33 AM (RlPjE)

136 Add idiot and illiterate to the list of Matthew's inflictions and conditions. He may or not be wrong in his belief about what causes people refer to the president as "Obama." But Matthews clearly misuses the word paranoid in this context. Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory beliefs, or beliefs of conspiracy concerning a perceived threat towards oneself. (e.g. "Everyone is out to get me.") Matthews doesn't suggest people are out to get Mattews. To quote linguist Jeantel, That's real retarded, sir.

Posted by: USA at August 21, 2013 11:33 AM (VIaw0)

137 "Matthews is himself a Roman Catholic. He attended La Salle College High School. He is a 1967 graduate of the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts, and did graduate work in economics at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill."

http://tinyurl.com/ykvxlv

Institute of the Brothers of the Christian Schools
http://tinyurl.com/m56hkq8

Holy Cross - I think it's run by the Jesuits
http://tinyurl.com/jw9rx3e

What blasphemy from a guy educated in this way.

Posted by: caustic at August 21, 2013 11:33 AM (/b8+5)

138 Well Fokker is the variant spelling.  I prefer Focker.  But both work. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 11:34 AM (xDfWx)

139 So what are we going to call Hillary when she ascends the throne?

I'm partial to "The Hildebeast".

Posted by: bonhomme at August 21, 2013 11:34 AM (WhJf8)

140 so i guess calling him Barry Soetoro is also a no-no.

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2013 11:34 AM (nqBYe)

141 Nah, Chrissy's not paranoid.

Just stupid.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 21, 2013 11:34 AM (WMsq+)

142 I don't know how to l-o-o-o-o-v-e him!

Posted by: Godspell of Matthew's Supershah at August 21, 2013 11:34 AM (6xhLc)

143 As an American, I have respect for the institution and office of the President. I am under no obligation to harbor any goodwill toward any particular occupant of the office.

In my life, I have whole-heartedly supported one President: Ronald Reagan. I supported the Bushes. I was either indifferent to or irritated by the rest.

Then came this fucking POS asterisk of a President we have now.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 11:34 AM (8sCoq)

144 I wish that Obama would give in, pop a handful of boner pills and sodomize Matthews already for cryin' out loud.

This sexual tension drama has gone on for far too long.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 21, 2013 11:34 AM (SY2Kh)

145
Out:   Booooosh!!!11!

In:  President Booooosh!!!11!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 21, 2013 11:34 AM (0IhFx)

146 FoxNews: The National Security Agency collected thousands of Internet communications from Americans despite no terror connection, according to newly declassified documents.

Posted by: Countrysquire, back just for this comment at August 21, 2013 11:34 AM (LSJmV)

147 I wasn't that old but--Kennedy?

***

Back in the 60s a neighbor of ours had a a display of three pictures on her wall, John Kennedy, the Pope, and Jesus.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 21, 2013 11:34 AM (Hx5uv)

148 The JEF could put a stop to this blind worship nonsense if he wanted it to cease.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 21, 2013 11:34 AM (3jF3i)

149 All this from the side that called Condi Rice a monkey and President Bush a murderer, stupid, and worse?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2013 11:35 AM (jE38p)

150

Better yet, what title will Joe Biden get if he ascends in 2016?

 

Supreme Court Jester of the United States?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 21, 2013 11:35 AM (EGPJQ)

151 "MSNBC is just one, long clown show - right down to the audience of frightened children."

The ever, um, tiltening tilt of MSNBC's lineup and the increasing rate of absolute howlers flying out of their pieholes really has me starting to wonder if it's just theatre without any genuine belief behind it.  In a business driven by the unholy quest for ratings,  their business model is to spew the absurd to lock in the leftist base AND get Ace to talk about it.  

Winning!

Posted by: Jaws at August 21, 2013 11:35 AM (4I3Uo)

152 FoxNews: The National Security Agency collected thousands of Internet communications from Americans despite no terror connection, according to newly declassified documents.

***

I wonder if they got any of my dick jokes.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 21, 2013 11:35 AM (Hx5uv)

153 I wish that Obama would give in, pop a handful of boner pills and sodomize Matthews already for cryin' out loud.

***

So does Matthews.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 21, 2013 11:35 AM (WMsq+)

154 I just have a hard time seeing Chrissy hitting that low bass note to sing, "He is dangerous."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 11:35 AM (xDfWx)

155 9 I like Anna Puma's "Gaylord Fokker" to refer to the current occupant of the Oval Orifice. But I don't want to meet the Fokkers.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 11:35 AM (p9JxP)

156 "Hopefully, burning in hell.
***
Surely not Ike.

Sorry. No, not Ike. Eyes focused on the capital letters & didn't even see Ike in there. (and I read it twice!)"[/]
===============

Uh, actually, yes. I'm down here, too. I had some overdue library books that never got returned. You wouldn't believe how  strident they are about that stuff.

Return your library books!

Posted by: Ike's Soul at August 21, 2013 11:35 AM (/AHDz)

157 Back in the 60s a neighbor of ours had a a display of three pictures on her wall, John Kennedy, the Pope, and Jesus. Posted by: WalrusRex at August 21, 2013 03:34 PM (Hx5uv) Well at least one was Jeiwsh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2013 11:35 AM (jE38p)

158

They refer to him as ‘Obama.’

 

How about  Uncle Omar's nephew?

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2013 11:36 AM (wAQA5)

159 There, there, Chris, you are truly the most reverent and loving follower of our lord and savior Obama. No need to continue proving your point.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2013 11:36 AM (UrtRh)

160

Gifted. 

 That's a good word for Ace.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2013 11:36 AM (7zLjC)

161 So what are we going to call Hillary when she ascends the throne?

***

Not sure on that point but the way she's aging we're going to have to watch SOTU speeches in a reflection on a bronze shield...

Posted by: B at August 21, 2013 11:36 AM (twiRb)

162
In frowned upon news, unemployment unexpectedly ticks slightly, ever so slightly, upward from 7.7 percent to 8.9 percent in 30 states.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 21, 2013 11:36 AM (0IhFx)

163 Also, everything that isn't distant from people's interests or extremely simple to distill to facts becomes a "religious issue." I mean, crikey, look at diet and nutrition discussions.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 21, 2013 11:36 AM (qyfb5)

164 I can't even call the SCOAMF by his real name. So, there's that. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 03:14 PM (IXrOn) And what would that be? I contend that we still don't know. Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 03:26 PM (Tnlh/) I hiss the word Satan. hehe, my hubby was watching a sports channel this morning before work, when Satan came on. I was outside checking on the Death of the Tomato Slugs by Coors Light in my garden, but walked inside at the moment JEF was using sports to promote himself. Hubby tried to mute or change the channel quickly. lol I still was able to hiss out the word Satan.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 11:36 AM (IXrOn)

165 The Prissydent

Posted by: at August 21, 2013 11:36 AM (wVMeA)

166 >>>The only time I ever hear anyone invoke a fuller name is when the decidedly non-religious refer to Jesus H. Christ.<<<

No, the H. doesn't stand for Hussein.

Posted by: Fritz at August 21, 2013 11:36 AM (UzPAd)

167

So what are we going to call Hillary when she ascends the throne?

I'm partial to "The Hildebeast".

 

Wasn't that Hagar the Horrible's wife?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 21, 2013 11:36 AM (EGPJQ)

168 Molly Ivins just made an interesting point on Hardball...

Posted by: X at August 21, 2013 03:31 PM (KHo8t)

 

....

 

Wait... wut????

 

I thought she passed away or sumpin.....

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2013 11:36 AM (nELVU)

169 The only time I ever hear anyone invoke a fuller name is when the decidedly non-religious refer to Jesus H. Christ. . .You forgot the Tap Dancing andcrutch part. On a cracker.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 11:37 AM (p9JxP)

170 >>>
Religion accounts for these three qualities. In Christianity, man years for God, because like the gravitational force of the sun, his love pulls us toward him. We recognize that our own sinfulness keeps us from reaching him. But there is a way to atone for our sins. There is a path toward salvation.

>>>For leftist, government and cult figures is how they account for these three qualities.

you're quite right.  I might just change the specific motivation from "seeking salvation" to the more general "seeking meaning which connects tiny man to the larger universe," which would come in several modes, salvation being one of them.

But for many it would simply be pure egotism, too.


Posted by: ace at August 21, 2013 11:37 AM (/IWYB)

171 115 So what are we going to call Hillary when she ascends the throne? Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 21, 2013 03:30 PM (EGPJQ) President C-word.

Posted by: Stark the Dickflüssig at August 21, 2013 11:37 AM (Td7pU)

172 Well, MSNBC now has competition for the retard, anti-American, anti-Christian leftist viewer with Al-Jazeera. Al-Jazeera has MSNBC beat on jew hatred, though. I think.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 21, 2013 11:37 AM (ZPrif)

173 Molly Ivins just made an interesting point on Hardball...Posted by: X at August 21, 2013 03:31 PM (KHo8t) ....Wait... wut????I thought she passed away or sumpin.....

I didn't get it either.  Molly Ivins never made an interesting point in her life.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 21, 2013 11:38 AM (WMsq+)

174 "What blasphemy from a guy educated in this way."
===============

Chris Matthews is rock solid in his Catholicism! Just like me!

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at August 21, 2013 11:38 AM (/AHDz)

175 158 Back in the 60s a neighbor of ours had a a display of three pictures on her wall, John Kennedy, the Pope, and Jesus. Posted by: WalrusRex at August 21, 2013 03:34 PM (Hx5uv) Well at least one was Jewish Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2013 03:35 PM (jE38p) Heh.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 11:38 AM (Tnlh/)

176 "Religious hysteria does not require a god. Religious hysteria only requires Dogma a Devil."

"If there is such a thing as having 'a gift' for blogging, Ace has it.

AoSHQ: Gifted, Award-Winning Blog That Brings It To The Masses"

Would that make Ace our  devil or our dogma?


Posted by: Jaws at August 21, 2013 11:38 AM (4I3Uo)

177 "12 Me, I prefer the version with "tyrant".

How about TFG?

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2013 03:12 PM (zoehZ)"



OK.  What do you take that acronym to stand fore?  I always assumed that it was The Fucking Guy or That Fucking Guy because that is how I usually refer to the current occupant of the White House and I just assumed that others did as well.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 21, 2013 11:38 AM (31Nrp)

178 AJTV, wait.  Still need to do that.  Cancel Dish TV for carrying it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 11:38 AM (xDfWx)

179 So what are we going to call Hillary when she ascends the throne? President Hitlery Clixon.

Posted by: X at August 21, 2013 11:38 AM (KHo8t)

180 I think Jesus' middle name is Howard

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 11:39 AM (8sCoq)

181 And who gave Obama a bad name? Obama. With all proper and due respect, Chris, I just coiled a massive President Obama. A double-flusher, for sure!

Posted by: t-bird at August 21, 2013 11:39 AM (WBJeV)

182 Not sure on that point but the way she's aging we're going to have to watch SOTU speeches in a reflection on a bronze shield...

Very funny, you're nexssst.

Posted by: Hillary Gorgon Clinton at August 21, 2013 11:39 AM (9PrpA)

183 I think it was Molly Ivins  who coined the derisive nickname of "Shrub" for Bush.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2013 11:39 AM (UrtRh)

184 In frowned upon news, unemployment unexpectedly ticks slightly, ever so slightly, upward from 7.7 percent to 8.9 percent in 30 states. Posted by: Sticky Wicket +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Obviousy, those 30 states need a high-speed, light rail system.

Posted by: Countrysquire, back just for this comment at August 21, 2013 11:39 AM (LSJmV)

185
I wonder if they got any of my dick jokes.

Q:  Why does PRESIDENT, (there ya go chrissy maffews, ya douche), Obama wear a neck tie?

A:  To keep the foreskin from rolling up over his face.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 21, 2013 11:39 AM (0IhFx)

186 Awesome that my cable bill now pays a monthly fee to the jihadi scum at Al-Jazeera. But can't have BlazeTV cause Beck is a scary man who says meaning things about Obama.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 21, 2013 11:39 AM (ZPrif)

187 Ace is furry, like Dogma.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2013 11:39 AM (7zLjC)

188 I used to think the phrase "Liberalism is a mental disorder" was over-the-top, counterproductive mud slinging. Used to.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 21, 2013 11:40 AM (+02SO)

189

Fritz at August 21, 2013 03:36 PM (UzPAd)

 

----------

 

It stands for Harold.

 

Our Father, who art in Heaven, Harold be thy name.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 21, 2013 11:40 AM (tVWQB)

190 hehe, my hubby was watching a sports channel this morning before work, when Satan came on. I was outside checking on the Death of the Tomato Slugs by Coors Light in my garden, but walked inside at the moment JEF was using sports to promote himself. Hubby tried to mute or change the channel quickly. lol I still was able to hiss out the word Satan. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 03:36 PM (IXrOn) Noted about the Coors light. Got a lot of tomatoes in the garden.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 11:40 AM (Tnlh/)

191 Yup. Molly Ivins did coin (or at least popularize) "Shrub," and she remains one of the Left's patron saints.

Posted by: Kensington at August 21, 2013 11:40 AM (/AHDz)

192 I can't even call the SCOAMF by his real name. So, there's that. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 03:14 PM (IXrOn) And what would that be? I contend that we still don't know. Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 03:26 PM (Tnlh/) C'mon, he's told us already. It's Steve. Wait, he lies about everything, doesn't he ... Dangit! Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 21, 2013 03:28 PM (v3pYe) eh?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 11:41 AM (IXrOn)

193 > I think it was Molly Ivins who coined the derisive nickname of "Shrub" for Bush.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2013 03:39 PM (UrtRh)



were she alive today, she'd compare the now very red Texas to the Third Reich

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 11:41 AM (8sCoq)

194 OMG-- No joke--I googled--ace's quote: No results found for "Religious hysteria only requires Dogma and a Devil". Results for Religious hysteria only requires Dogma and a Devil (without quotes): Search Results "I'm Not Paranoid," Insists Noted Paranoid - Visit www.minx.cc minx.cc/?post=342700 Religious hysteria does not require a god. Religious hysteria only requires Dogma & a Devil. We would be the Devil, here. So here is noted paranoid and ... Theistic Satanism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theistic_Satanism‎ The concept of Satan may incorporate elements from older religions than ... some well-known grimoires with instructions for making a pact with the Devil. Hitler's religious beliefs and fanaticism www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm‎ Hitler held many hysterical beliefs which not only include, God and .... and only the religious need as such slumbers in his soul, the political opinion of the ... ********* First three hits. Ace is three degrees from....Kevin Bacon!!!

Posted by: Matt Damon! at August 21, 2013 11:41 AM (r2PLg)

195 Molly Ivins was a local DFW area drunk who built a career on calling Bush "shrub" before her liver exploded. She made appearances on Hardball with Chris Matthews.

Posted by: X at August 21, 2013 11:41 AM (KHo8t)

196 Chris Matthews needs detox very badly.
Leave me out of this. It's the brain tumor doing all the heavy lifting here.

Posted by: chris matthews' liver at August 21, 2013 11:41 AM (joFbZ)

197 Two fingers of vodka and three fingers of gin. With a orange twist, honeynipples.

Shanksss.

youtube.com/watch?v=tIUf6dOGc1c

Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at August 21, 2013 11:41 AM (UzPAd)

198 If I fathered a white bastard, he'd be as stupid and full of shit as Chris Matthews.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at August 21, 2013 11:41 AM (joFbZ)

199 One thing I wouldn't do is refer to him as "Mr. Obama" ... which the MFM and the left (BIRM) did constantly with President Bush.

Oh, I like "Mr. Obama."  And "Mr. Boehner" and "Ms. Pelosi."

They hold elective office, they're not titled aristocrats (the Duchy of Indianapolis passing from Julia Carson to her grandson notwithstanding).

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 21, 2013 11:42 AM (/kI1Q)

200 can that be approved sir?
Posted by: willow at August 21, 2013 03:16 PM

Every time I think of writing or speaking his name -- or, for that matter, any of his previous names, thank you baldilocks -- I wanna hurl.

Around here, he's Choom Boy. Or President Historic First©. That's all I can do without spewing on my keyboard.

I'm sure that offends Pissy Chrissy. And probably Poppin' Fresh, too. Well, fuck both of 'em.

I'll be happy to call him by number when America comes to its senses and sends him for a long vacation in the Graybar Hotel.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 21, 2013 11:42 AM (kaGpp)

201 This is ever present the double standard.

We can't use his middle name, or we're racists implying he is Muslim. They can use his middle name when marveling at what a wonderful, multi-cultured president he is; the adopt Hussein as a middle name on Facebook as a show of support.

We can't call it Obamacare. They print up "I love Obamacare!" buttons, bumber stickers, etc.

Same game, different gotcha.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2013 11:42 AM (UrtRh)

202

Based on the last five years he's earned the title of:

 Dolt

 Dunce

 Idiot

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Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 21, 2013 11:42 AM (EGPJQ)

203 If you think they are upset now, just wait until the mind-rending, misogynistic insanity of President Hillary Rodham Clinton suffering (but strongly enduring) the indignity of being referred to simply by her First Name. Hillary. Shrill-ary.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 11:42 AM (p9JxP)

204 Chris Matthews is rock solid in his Catholicism! Just like me! Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at August 21, 2013 03:38 PM (/AHDz) Oh, me too!

Posted by: Nancy Lugosi at August 21, 2013 11:43 AM (+02SO)

205

 

Our Father, who art in Heaven, Harold be thy name.

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And Harold has a bear with bad vision named Gladly.  We used to sing about it in Sunday School......  Gladly, the cross eyed bear.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2013 11:43 AM (nELVU)

206 Back in the 60s a neighbor of ours had a a display of three pictures on her wall, John Kennedy, the Pope, and Jesus. Posted by: WalrusRex at August 21, 2013 03:34 PM (Hx5uv) Well at least one was Jewish Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2013 03:35 PM (jE38p) Heh. Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 03:38 PM (Tnlh/) Nobody ever told you Jesus was Jewish? That area wasn't Rome but Judea and Samaria

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2013 11:43 AM (jE38p)

207 Noted about the Coors light. Got a lot of tomatoes in the garden. Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 03:40 PM (Tnlh/) This time I put a dish of it out at dusk, as I read someone suggested. It worked better this time. And, they like it fresh, like we do. Lots of 'em, drowned, and colorless. A beautiful sight. At least they died happy. Yeah, getting a lot of tomatoes this year. It's wonderful.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 11:43 AM (IXrOn)

208 In answer to your question ace..... We have NEVER seen this kind of fanboy love of ANY politician in this country before.  Also, when are we, as white men, going to don the baseball cap of the ECU Tigers and post pictures to FB and other social media sites?  "I AM CHRSTOPHER LANE."  Let's get the ball rolling.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 21, 2013 11:43 AM (32Ze2)

209 "Back in the 60s a neighbor of ours had a a display of three pictures on her wall, John Kennedy, the Pope, and Jesus.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 21, 2013 03:34 PM (Hx5uv)"



You must not have lived in my neighborhood because there all the neighbors had those pictures.  And it was specifically a picture of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. 

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 21, 2013 11:43 AM (31Nrp)

210 Believe me, the Left in this country is incapable of recognizing the contempt with which they treated Chimpy von Bushitler.  If you try to pin them on it with specific examples, you had better batten down the hatches because you will get one of several responses:
1) "That's just your interpretation of history and you are wrong and stupid and shut the fuck up."
2) "What the Right is doing to President Barack Obama is completely different than the rational, reasonable and respectful manner that the Left treated that stupid dogfucking cowboy with."
3) "It's OK when we do it because Bush was a stupid, Christian, alkie piece of shit who deserved all of it and more." (This will be accompanied by lamentations of the crudeness of political discourse in this country).
4) "Bush stole the 2000 election."
5) "Will you shut your fucking mouth about that already? Politicians who say stuff I agree with are good and politicians who say stuff I disagree with should all be rounded up and gassed.  Why can't you be as open-minded and tolerant as I am?"
Those are all the ones I've collected, but I'm sure there are many more.

Posted by: Fart at August 21, 2013 11:43 AM (2aB+q)

211 I think President Claxon would be good if we ever were cursed by Hillary.  That voice, yeesh.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 21, 2013 11:44 AM (9PrpA)

212 Nobody ever told you Jesus was Jewish? That area wasn't Rome but Judea and Samaria Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2013 03:43 PM (jE38p) Yes, I know, darling. It was still a funny joke.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 11:44 AM (Tnlh/)

213 thus rooting in every human being a sense of Awe about the Infinite in Eternal, which we ultimately give the name "God." How does this sense of awe fit in with the human recognition of sinfulness (guilt) and atonement (redemption)?

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2013 11:44 AM (gw5z4)

214 But, dad, I'm Jesus Christ!

Posted by: a very young bill cosby at August 21, 2013 11:44 AM (joFbZ)

215 how about b Hussein al-Obama

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 11:44 AM (8sCoq)

216 I think it was Molly Ivins who coined the derisive nickname of "Shrub" for Bush.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2013 03:39 PM


Yep, and Bush was very gracious about her when she died.  This is something I expect from men like Bush and will never ever ever see from the other side.

Posted by: huerfano at August 21, 2013 11:44 AM (bAGA/)

217 >>> I used to think the phrase "Liberalism is a mental disorder" was over-the-top, counterproductive mud slinging.

I try to say "leftism" because "liberalism" -- what was once called liberalism -- has an awful lot to it and in fact most people here subscribe to most of it.

What happened, of course, is that in the 30s communists became a political threat to the Democratic Party and the Party did what parties do, which is to say, co-opted the communists' appeal by adopting many policies and thought-templates and rhetoric swiped from their playbook.

Thus liberalism became tainted by the cancer of leftism, until now, today, there is little of the body we call "liberalism" BUT the cancer of leftism.


Posted by: ace at August 21, 2013 11:45 AM (/IWYB)

218 When I hear someone say Obama in a positive tone, expecting everyone to agree all I hear is Heil Hitler.

Posted by: Big Ben at August 21, 2013 11:45 AM (I5Htn)

219

So what are we going to call Hillary when she ascends the throne?

 

Depens on whether her back is towards us or not.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2013 11:45 AM (wAQA5)

220 >But, dad, I'm Jesus Christ!

Posted by: a very young bill cosby at August 21, 2013 03:44 PM (joFbZ)



I love that bit. And yeah, I thought my name was 'damn it!' for a while

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 11:45 AM (8sCoq)

221 If you think they are upset now, just wait until the mind-rending, misogynistic insanity of President Hillary Rodham Clinton suffering (but strongly enduring) the indignity of being referred to simply by her First Name.

...and those who bitch loudest have had "HILLARY!!" bumperstickers/buttons/T-shirts/dildos since 2006.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 21, 2013 11:45 AM (/kI1Q)

222 In frowned upon news, unemployment unexpectedly ticks slightly, ever so slightly, upward from 7.7 percent to 8.9 percent in 30 states.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 21, 2013 03:36 PM (0IhFx)


hhmmm... I should really get around to selling the rest of my stocks.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 21, 2013 11:45 AM (UypUQ)

223 Ernst Nolte wrote that the essence of fascism was 'resistance to transcendence'



modern leftism is resistance to logic and reason; to them, it's all about the fanatical devotion to their Creed.  The worst of both worlds

Posted by: Whack the Mole at August 21, 2013 11:46 AM (omBWL)

224 I AM A HERETIC

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2013 11:46 AM (zOTsN)

225 btw, I think by "30 States" you meant "30 days".  I see nothing about specific states in Gallup's UE numbers.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 21, 2013 11:47 AM (UypUQ)

226 The lack of titles started when Clinton referred to Bush 1 as Mr Bush instead of Mr President in the debates of 92.

Posted by: Big Ben at August 21, 2013 11:47 AM (I5Htn)

227

So what are we going to call Hillary when she ascends the throne? 

------

 

 

Im kinda partial to "President Princess PUMA Pantsuit".

 

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2013 11:47 AM (nELVU)

228 Dear wingnutz: You are to refer to Him (capital "H") as His Most Holy and Reverend Most Exalted Lord and Ruler The One" or you are all a bunch of raaaaacists. Oh the hell with it, you're all raaaaacicts anyway, no matter what you say or do. (hic)

Posted by: Tingles Matthews at August 21, 2013 11:47 AM (7ObY1)

229 So. Where's this Gaybar Hotel?
I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at August 21, 2013 11:47 AM (joFbZ)

230 I have long contended that man is a fundamentally religious animal -- and I don't necessarily mean that in a good way -- and that many people who consider themselves above religion are actually quite beneath it, and, rather than subscribe to a conventional religion in which their desire for transcendence can be more conventionally satisfied, instead channel their religious impulses into areas which are not by nature religious and which by nature must not be religious.


--It may or may not be related to a God Gene, but I think man also has a propensity for dynastic monarchism.  A democratic republic like America is a historical aberration.  Even in the States, though, the past half-century has seen the ascent of quasi-dynaties like the Kennedys, Clintons, and Bushes.    It may be as difficult for man to quit these tendencies as for an alcoholic to quit the bottle.

Posted by: logprof at August 21, 2013 11:47 AM (bufJH)

231 Posted by: Fart at August 21, 2013 03:43 PM (2aB+q) AKA: Racist!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 11:47 AM (IXrOn)

232

>>>you're quite right. I might just change the specific motivation from "seeking salvation" to the more general "seeking meaning which connects tiny man to the larger universe," which would come in several modes, salvation being one of them.

 

On the wrong track, Ace. Leftists are not 'religious' but instead flatter themselves as 'learned' so the conflating of Jesus and Kennedy, to them, isn't so much about sainthood or salvation but about ideological similitude. eg, JFK founded the Peace Corps so he fed the poor like Jesus. That kind of thing.

 

As far as Obama goes, its the inverse of Nixon and generalized Republican hate. GOP is the Devil, Obama is the Savior because he killed the GOP. And since he's Black they imagine we're squirming like Vampires shown a cross.

 

And since we *are* squirming like Vampires shown a cross they suffer confirmation bias, unable to understand that Socialism and Failshit is why for Teh Squirms.

Posted by: Bigby's Gripping Hand at August 21, 2013 11:47 AM (3ZtZW)

233 Anyone trying to delegitimize Chris Matthews will henceforth be required to call him "Matthews".  Not "Chris Matthews" or "MSNBC Nutjob" or "Crazed Maniac" or "Tingles" or "Foul Piece of Shit".  Play by the rules, people.

Posted by: Referee at August 21, 2013 11:48 AM (B5y+v)

234

Oh, God. So easy. Here's Matthews referring to President Bush as "Bush" at the 1:05 mark. Took literally seconds to find.

 

http://tinyurl.com/mc857e4


 

Posted by: Warden at August 21, 2013 11:48 AM (HzhBE)

235 I had the good fortune (or misfortune, rather) of attending a rally for Obama during his first run for the presidency back in 2008. While there, I couldn't help but feel like I was in that scene from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade where Indy and his father are attending Hitler's book burning rally in Berlin. Henry Jones Sr. even made the astute observation, "We are pilgrims in an unholy land." The vibe at the rally I attended was just like that. Everyone but me and the guy I convinced to come with me was wildly enthusiastic, almost reverently so. Very, very, disturbing.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at August 21, 2013 11:48 AM (8THEs)

236

191 -

 

You mean all the  time I've  spent  praying to a see-thru log, I've been doing it wrong??

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2013 11:48 AM (TOk1P)

237 He should see what we call the Mooch.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2013 11:48 AM (7zLjC)

238

Dogma and a Devil...

 

Profundity on parade.  I've got to admit, I've never thought of it that way. 

Posted by: jwest at August 21, 2013 11:48 AM (u2a4R)

239 So Chrissy always said, President Bush, President Reagan etc.? Chrissy's foaming at the mouth routine is hitting new lows

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2013 11:48 AM (1Jaio)

240 #FrownedUpon is trending

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 11:49 AM (8sCoq)

241 i would propose a contrary theory that man understands how small he is in a world so enormous and that, as Einstein said, "our sense of god is our sense of wonder about the universe." It's the problem of information. I think it was Hayek that proposed it. That is, markets work best because nobody can possibly know enough to make distribution efficient. Another analogy would be self-assembly. The individual robots are stupid, but acting independently, they can do incredible stuff. Religion does codify this sense of the hopelessness of understanding the universe. A lack of this sort of awe leads to hubris and stupidity. See Warming, Anthroprogenic Global. But it's so tempting for human beings to think that what they know is all there is to be known, that what can currently be perceived is all that can be perceived.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 21, 2013 11:49 AM (T0NGe)

242 #162  Bonus points for mythological reference!  HA!

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 21, 2013 11:49 AM (GoIUi)

243 "I would like to apologize for referring to George W. Bush as a "deserter." What I meant to say is that George W. Bush is a deserter, an election thief, a drunk driver, a WMD liar and a functional illiterate." Michael Moore "Bush's actions remind me of Herman Goering's quote during the Nuremberg Trials, where he stated: '...it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.'" Barbra Streisand This President invaded a sovereign nation in defiance of the UN. He is basically a war criminal. Honestly. He should be tried at The Hague. Rosie O'donnell "While President Bush likes to project an image of strength and courage, the real truth is that in the presence of his large financial contributors, he is a moral coward," Al Gore "George W. Bush is evil. He is a terrorist. He is evil. He is arrogant. And he is out of control." Julianne Malveaux - USA Today columnist “I despise him [President George W. Bush]. I despise his administration and everything they stand for....To my mind the election was stolen by George Bush and we have been suffering ever since under this man’s leadership....There has to be a movement now to really oppose what he is proposing because it’s unconstitutional, it’s immoral and basically illegal....It is an embarrassing time to be an American. It really is. It’s humiliating.” Jessica Lange "As we have learned in the past weeks, we cannot trust George W. Bush," Barbra Streisand "George W Bush is like a bad comic working the crowd, a moron, if you'll pardon the expression," Martin Sheen "Just so you know, we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas," Natalie Maines- Dixie Chicks "There's nothing you could point to in the Bush Administration with pride, Nothing. There is no way any rational, reasonable person can say that the Bush Administration has been good for America." Janeane Garofalo "I am more patriotic than this president we have, who I consider a traitor of human and American principles.” Sean Penn "In two short years, George W. Bush has taught us what the 'W' stands for -- wrong. Wrong for our children, wrong for our parents, wrong for our values. Wrong, wrong, wrong for America." John Edwards "We stand a chance of getting a president who has probably killed more people before he gets into office than any president in the history of the United States." Susan Sarandon "Bush wasn't elected, he was selected— selected by five judges up in Washington who voted along party lines," Alec Baldwin "he sounds more like a gang leader in South-Central L.A. than one that is trying to institute a policy of democracy and reconstruction in the world." Al Sharpton "President Bush is pushing the wrong buttons when he says, 'Those who are not with us, are against us,' " Soros said. "This is an imperialist vision in which the U.S. leads and the rest of the world follows." George Soros "shout a little louder if you want the president impeached." Bruce Springsteen "This is a racist and imperialist war. The warmongers who stole the White House (you call them "hawks", but I would never disparage such a fine bird) have hijacked a nation's grief and turned it into a perpetual war on any non-white country they choose to describe as terrorist." Woody Harrelson "I'm both pro-Kerry and anti-Bush. More anti-Bush." Howard Stern "To start with, anti-Castro groups were vital in implementing the dirty business of the butterfly ballots ensuring Bush's victory at the 2000 elections," Oliver Stone "The difference between Martin Sheen and George W. Bush is Martin Sheen is actually convincing when he acts like he's president." Paul Begala “Who gave George Bush the duty to free people around the world?” Mike Wallace http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Whacked.htm And more

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2013 11:49 AM (jE38p)

244 hhmmm... I should really get around to selling the rest of my stocks.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 21, 2013 03:45 PM (UypUQ)

--------------------------

Um yeah..... about that....

Posted by: Ben Bernanke at August 21, 2013 11:49 AM (32Ze2)

245 >>So what are we going to call Hillary when she ascends the throne?

Drunk? You meant the porcelain throne, amiright?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2013 11:49 AM (UrtRh)

246 I try to say "leftism" because "liberalism" -- what was once called liberalism Leftist is a better word because they are the true believers, the true agitators. The LIV doesn't subscribe directly to the cult, though they are persuaded by it due to its outside cultural impact. I wish to not subscribe the cultish tendencies seen in the likes of Matthews and MSNBC in general to those voters who vote democratic. Judging by MSNBC's ratings, the true leftists are few and far between. Unfortunately, they have an outside influence on our culture allowing their beliefs to seep in unknowingly. Not to say that the masses which fall for it are not partly to blame.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2013 11:49 AM (gw5z4)

247 Oddly enough during his first term I noticed that the news media constantly referred to him as "Mr. Obama" rather than Predident Obama or Mr. President. I suspect they wanted him to appear more reachable, more like us.

I want to know when did it become practice to refer to a former President/Governor/Senator/Representative by their former title? I still hear of "President Clinton" rather than "Former President Clinton"

Posted by: Dwayne the canoe guy at August 21, 2013 11:50 AM (2EmS8)

248 Since the dawn of time, Man has wanted to be right, because being right natuarally improves ones chances of survivial (and of attaining all the other levels of Maslow's heirarchy).

Religion was Man's first shot at attaining that elusive +10 Armor of Right. It isn't even necessary for God (or G-d or god or gods) to answer prayers in a consistent or regular fashion (intermittent reward is actually the most powerful method of reinforcing behavior).

That's my take on the popularity of religion thru the Ages, anyway.

You may carry on. Mill about smartly.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at August 21, 2013 11:50 AM (/lWM8)

249 But for many it would simply be pure egotism, too.


Posted by: ace at August 21, 2013 03:37 PM (/IWYB)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

You're close to my definition of the "devil".  I call it, ego and self-will run riot.

Posted by: Soona at August 21, 2013 11:50 AM (MdA2X)

250 Yeah, beer may be great for slugs but it doesn't do anything for (shudder) tomato hornworms - especially the ones with wasp larva eating their insides out.

Nasty.  Gotta kill those with fire.  It kinda messes up the garden though.

Posted by: Jaws at August 21, 2013 11:50 AM (4I3Uo)

251 Thus liberalism became tainted by the cancer of leftism, until now, today, there is little of the body we call "liberalism" BUT the cancer of leftism. Posted by: ace at August 21, 2013 03:45 PM (/IWYB) Seems they have also shifted to "progressive." I usually use prog, now. Or, a combo lib/prog line.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 11:50 AM (IXrOn)

252 WASHINGTON — Just a quarter of this year's high school graduates who took the ACT tests have the reading, math, English and science skills they need to succeed in college or a career, according to data the testing company released Wednesday. The numbers are even worse for black high school graduates: Only 5 percent are fully ready for life after high school. Wow, just wow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2013 11:50 AM (jE38p)

253 "Liberalism" could just be choosing the easy path. A lot of it could just be someone choosing to fit in their environment--that's why a person who doesn't fit their demographic politically is always more intriguing.

Posted by: Matt Damon! at August 21, 2013 11:50 AM (r2PLg)

254 So referring to TFG by just his last name is disrespectful?

Pssst....Chrissy


 http://tinyurl.com/n6uozt6

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2013 11:51 AM (SfGRU)

255 hillary understand that it's my turn.  And after she endorsed Guillibrand, we're not speaking.

Posted by: joey b at August 21, 2013 11:51 AM (/b8+5)

256 They refer to the health care act of 2010 as ‘a bill.’

Well, since it was never actually voted on, but only "deemed passed", this might have some legitimacy.

Posted by: Drumwaster at August 21, 2013 11:51 AM (K6BSx)

257 Thus liberalism became tainted by the cancer of leftism, until now, today, there is little of the body we call "liberalism" BUT the cancer of leftism.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2013 03:45 PM

If asked to accurately describe some of our deeply held beliefs, I'm sure a majority of us would have to term a few of them "liberal."

After all, tolerance is a "liberal" trait. Or was until the Prophets of Choom took it over as a cry for special bennies for some and as a call to excuse illegal/antisocial behavior. So, in the non-Dubya way of traditional  Western religion and old-fashioned morality, is compassion.

Okay, I know a few Morons are hard-asses who would resist a "liberal" sip of whiskey, but there are a few in every crowd.

Still, some "liberal" beliefs are virtues. I, for one, would be happy with a liberal load of drugs in Bradley Manning's needle.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 21, 2013 11:52 AM (kaGpp)

258 Decides to wade in. 

The Left, after dispensing with the concept of a higher moral being, then searches for a material substitute so they can rule the unenlightened by that secular god.  Hence they worship the state as the all father.  And they are the priesthood for their golem.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 11:52 AM (xDfWx)

259 Worship of a nonentity with no accomplishments -- a nonentity who at best, in a sane society, would be running ambulance-chaser attorney ads on late-night TV. 

Nauseating.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 21, 2013 11:52 AM (BDU/a)

260 I don't call 'em progressive because that's their preferred term Makes them feel like they're for progress!, the future!, etc. when in fact their ideas and goals are stale.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2013 11:52 AM (UrtRh)

261 209 Noted about the Coors light. Got a lot of tomatoes in the garden. Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 03:40 PM (Tnlh/) This time I put a dish of it out at dusk, as I read someone suggested. It worked better this time. And, they like it fresh, like we do. Lots of 'em, drowned, and colorless. A beautiful sight. At least they died happy. Yeah, getting a lot of tomatoes this year. It's wonderful. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 03:43 PM (IXrOn) It is! I kept a compost heap last year and put it on the soil this past spring. Ended up with a frickin tomato forest! I culled the ones that weren't growing and the others are going red now. Mostly cherry tomatoes. Some bell peppers. And a cantaloupe vine!

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 11:53 AM (Tnlh/)

262 "It stands for Harold.

Our Father, who art in Heaven, Harold be thy name.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 21, 2013 03:40 PM (tVWQB)"



I knew a fellow named Gillespie who, as a kid, believed that God was a distant relative because he heard "Blessed be God.  Blessed be His holy name" as "Blessed be God.  Gillespie His holy name."

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 21, 2013 11:53 AM (31Nrp)

263

Leftist is a better word because they are the true believers, the true agitators. The LIV doesn't subscribe directly to the cult, though they are persuaded by it due to its outside cultural impact.

 

 

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Just say it.   The LIV's are attracted  to it because of "free shit".

Posted by: Soona at August 21, 2013 11:53 AM (MdA2X)

264

Ever since my dad died, I haven't been able to say  The Lord's Prayer without laughing.

 

Dad's name was Art. 

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2013 11:53 AM (TOk1P)

265 This is why we need a conservative Jon Stewart.
I don't personally care for him,but his style of humor could be devastating in a skit addressing Chrissy Mathews current utterances.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2013 11:53 AM (SfGRU)

266 they called him Bushitler out of respect

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2013 11:53 AM (y9aEA)

267 Sometimes Ace can be elegant and insightful. Politeness restrains me from saying what he can be on other occasions.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 11:54 AM (bb5+k)

268 260 Decides to wade in. The Left, after dispensing with the concept of a higher moral being, then searches for a material substitute so they can rule the unenlightened by that secular god. Hence they worship the state as the all father. And they are the priesthood for their golem. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 03:52 PM (xDfWx) ********** The Left believes they can create Utopia on Earth. That could be why they end up with Dictators.

Posted by: tasker at August 21, 2013 11:54 AM (r2PLg)

269 Just call him President Sh*thead.  Problem solved...

Posted by: Whack the Mole at August 21, 2013 11:54 AM (omBWL)

270 I'm DR. Amy Bishop!!eleventy!1!!

Posted by: sweet...ish at August 21, 2013 11:54 AM (bj+Nc)

271 I like to think of Him as a white Hawaiian. And yeah, I got that "he's a god" feel too, when my wife and I attended the rally held in Nashua NH the night he lost to Shrillary in that early '08 primary. They were mostly young people. We asked a lot of them when standing in the long lines outside Nasha South High School's gym, whether they had ever voted before. Most all said no. and many of those said they had not voted in the primary that day. I'll bet that most did not vote in November. They were there for an adoration event.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 21, 2013 11:54 AM (PH+2B)

272 Jesse Jackson: Obama Could Not Have Played The Saxophone On TV Like Bill Clinton So America Is Still RacistÂ… These people are bat shit crazy and they are running my Country? G-D help us all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2013 11:54 AM (jE38p)

273 Molly Ivins was a local DFW area drunk who built a career on calling Bush "shrub" before her liver exploded. That's pretty much the archetype for Texas Democrat women who make the big time- Fat Alcoholic Ugly Libtard Seal-Clapper Snark Example: Ann Richards Wendy Davis is about 30 pounds and 2 fifths of Jack Daniels per day shy of Democrat greatness.

Posted by: Sunny the White House Puppy at August 21, 2013 11:55 AM (8nunQ)

274 Im kinda partial to "President Princess PUMA Pantsuit". Im kinda partial to "President Princess FUPA".

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 11:55 AM (p9JxP)

275 Conservative - Liberal
Liberal- Progressive
Progressive- Stark Raving Mad Lunitic
Thunderdome
This is how elections have evolved so far.  How long to Thunderdome?

Posted by: Big Ben at August 21, 2013 11:55 AM (I5Htn)

276 'You deligitimized him!' is their latest tack to blame us for his failure.  It's no more complex than that-- the whole round-robin at MSNBC is just bedtime stories to make lefties feel warm and fuzzy about President Fuckup, themselves, and leftism in general.

Posted by: zsasz at August 21, 2013 11:55 AM (MMC8r)

277 Princess FUPA might be a workable way of referring to Hillary if she wins.

Posted by: Kensington at August 21, 2013 11:55 AM (/AHDz)

278 Someday Matthews will be in a padded cell amusing himself by eating his own feces.

Posted by: maddogg at August 21, 2013 11:55 AM (xWW96)

279 yes, we need a new word for 'liberals'. I propose 'fucking assholes'.

Your thoughts?

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 11:55 AM (8sCoq)

280 “People on the right say he’s a disaster, which he’s not. Look at what he’s already accomplished,” he added, apparently oblivious to Obama’s record deficits, failed foreign policy and the overall state of the economy.

****

Anybody can buy drinks for everybody and run up a massive bar tab on somebody else's credit card.  That is not an accomplishment it is thievery.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 21, 2013 11:55 AM (SkyIE)

281 That's why most Communists always try to get rid of religion-- it competes with The State. One day they will wise up and combine the two and--that will be hell on earth.

Posted by: tasker at August 21, 2013 11:56 AM (r2PLg)

282 MSNBC is 24/7 cable porn for moonbats

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 11:56 AM (8sCoq)

283 Just say it. The LIV's are attracted to it because of "free shit". --- The LIVs may be the most rational voting block for the Dems.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2013 11:56 AM (gw5z4)

284 The numbers are even worse for black high school graduates: Only 5 percent are fully ready for life after high school. Dat be old skoo. my jenerashun, we be new skoo.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at August 21, 2013 11:57 AM (7ObY1)

285 "I don't call 'em progressive because that's their preferred term Makes them feel like they're for progress!, the future!, etc. when in fact their ideas and goals are stale."

I've been trying my best to break the habit of calling them "liberals" for some time now.  "Liberal" connotes a desire for maximum freedom.   When was the last time you saw any of their ideas actually advance that? 

Yeah, me neither.

I should start doing the same  with the  term "progressive" as you say.

Posted by: Jaws at August 21, 2013 11:58 AM (4I3Uo)

286 Even by our standards. Chris Matthews is nuttier than a squirrel turd.

Posted by: Peruvia Broadcasting Service at August 21, 2013 11:58 AM (mETGQ)

287 281 yes, we need a new word for 'liberals'. I propose 'fucking assholes'. Your thoughts? COMMIES

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 21, 2013 11:58 AM (7ObY1)

288 Name linky includes the opinion of the NYT Public Editor on the subject...in 2007. To quote:

"I canÂ’t help thinking that ... are projecting political motivation in a case where it just doesnÂ’t exist."

Insert the name of the drunk at the bar for the ellipses.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at August 21, 2013 11:58 AM (XrGnJ)

289 obviously msnbc has failed in its mission or else they wouldn't have to bring in al jazz era america to balance fox and the blaze network

Posted by: caustic at August 21, 2013 11:58 AM (/b8+5)

290 The vibe at the rally I attended was just like that. Everyone but me and the guy I convinced to come with me was wildly enthusiastic, almost reverently so. Very, very, disturbing. Posted by: Lord Squirrel at August 21, 2013 03:48 PM (8THEs Reminds one of that scene in Caberet. "Tomorrow Belongs to Me." Remember the one guy--possibly Jewish--who wouldn't stand?

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 11:58 AM (Tnlh/)

291 The Left, after dispensing with the concept of a higher moral being, then searches for a material substitute so they can rule the unenlightened by that secular god. Hence they worship the state as the all father. And they are the priesthood for their golem. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 03:52 PM (xDfWx) I've seen it pointed out that Massachusetts went from one form of Puritan intolerance to a different form with the State replacing God as the object of their worship. They still treat unbelievers like witches.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 11:58 AM (bb5+k)

292

The Left, after dispensing with the concept of a higher moral being, then searches for a material substitute so they can rule the unenlightened by that secular god. Hence they worship the state as the all father. And they are the priesthood for their golem.

 

---

 

Its not even just the "state".   You want to see unbending dogmatic convictions on full display???   Forget the old school Catholics, pass up the Evangelical Christians, ignore even the Sharia compliant Muslims.

 

Just take up a contravening viewpoint on Climate Change, Abortion, the Environment,  or any other article of faith issue for the committed leftist.

 

 

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2013 11:58 AM (nELVU)

293 You know why we call it the Eisenhower Interstate System, or Reagan Airport, or the USS Jimmy Carter? Yep--to deligitimize Chris Matthews claim to have a function liver.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2013 11:58 AM (659DL)

294 They refer to the health care act of 2010 as ‘a bill.’

***

You mean the one that keeps getting big chunks of itself pushed past the 2014 elections so it won't hurt the Dems?  The legislation that no one in DC wants to be subjected to?  The one with a 60%+ public disapproval rate?

I swear to God the inside of Chrissy's head must sound like a pod of dolphins chattering...

Posted by: B at August 21, 2013 11:59 AM (twiRb)

295 "Progressive" is BS too. Progress toward what? The authoritarianism of the 1930s?

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 11:59 AM (8sCoq)

296 As a Prog Rock fanatic since my yoot, I HATE that the Libs call themselves Progressives. Progressive Rock rules. Progressive politics, not so much.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 21, 2013 11:59 AM (7ObY1)

297 "yes, we need a new word for 'liberals'. I propose 'fucking assholes'.

Your thoughts?"

I  second  the motion put forth by my profane colleague from  the Rocky Mountain State.

Posted by: Jaws at August 21, 2013 11:59 AM (4I3Uo)

298 >I swear to God the inside of Chrissy's head must sound like a pod of dolphins chattering...

Posted by: B at August 21, 2013 03:59 PM (twiRb)



Monkeys. In clown suits.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 12:00 PM (8sCoq)

299 This is why we need a conservative Jon Stewart. I don't personally care for him,but his style of humor could be devastating in a skit addressing Chrissy Mathews current utterances. ---- Such a person would never be accepted. Rush's TV show was basically the Daily Show during the Clinton administration. The main networks would never air such a show. Comedy central wouldn't (even if it garnered the same ratings as TDS). Only Fox could air such a show and it would be immediately denounced because it was Fox. I wish Ailes would air such a show, maybe on the new FXX with all the other old FX comedies. Would be interesting to see if it could draw the same ratings as TDS.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2013 12:00 PM (gw5z4)

300 It puts the lotion into the abyss, and the abyss stares into it.

Posted by: Skip Tracer at August 21, 2013 12:00 PM (2+bRt)

301 Matthews, some of us call him King Barky. Should we cease forthwith? Os is the "king" part okay with you? Pls advise.

Posted by: Mallfly at August 21, 2013 12:00 PM (bJm7W)

302 @ UGADawg: "or that doughnut bloated lazy idiot sportwriter Peter King has his own Sports Illustrated column." Hey, check out the Kissing Suzy Kolber blog- they have a recurring (weekly?) feature where they absolutely destroy the awful writing King does. Quite satisfying.

Posted by: Buck Smiley, Rodeo Clown/Freedom Fighter at August 21, 2013 12:00 PM (mm+xE)

303 I thank the gentleman.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 12:00 PM (8sCoq)

304 I can't bring myself to refer to it as being "Progressive." The celebrated 'right' to murder your children in a technologically advanced, civilized society does not resemble anything akin to progress. Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 21, 2013 03:57 PM (tWmgi) Yes, they like to call themselves progressives, to run from the taint of "liberal," that has been wounded, and turned dirty. Make "progressive" a dirty word, too. That is the plan. Make progressive a dirty word.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 12:01 PM (IXrOn)

305 ...stares into "it," not into the lotion. Just to be perfectly clear.

Posted by: Skip Tracer at August 21, 2013 12:01 PM (2+bRt)

306 The Left, after dispensing with the concept of a higher moral being, then searches for a material substitute so they can rule the unenlightened by that secular god. Hence they worship the state as the all father. And they are the priesthood for their golem. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 03:52 PM (xDfWx) Thomas Sowell outlines this view in Conflict of Visions. Reading that book caused me to properly understand the leftist mindset.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 12:01 PM (Tnlh/)

307

there was a time over familiarity was encouraged by these pukes

 

remember "Barack won't let you sit back" Barack this, Barack that

 

Barack, Barack, Barack

 

but I guess conservatives must call him lord most high

 

there is always President Stuttering Cluster Fuck of A Miserable Failure

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2013 12:01 PM (zOTsN)

308 'You deligitimized him!' is their latest tack to blame us for his failure. If I had that kind of power, there'd be a whole lot less leftists in the USA.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 12:01 PM (p9JxP)

309 Just say it. The LIV's are attracted to it because of "free shit". Posted by: Soona at August 21, 2013 03:53 PM (MdA2X) I've been pondering Ace's commentary from the other day regarding efforts to attract Urban voters by (to my ears) diluting our message or something. Ace pointed out that the available population of the "Salt of the Earth" voter types were pretty much on our side and little can be improved in this regard. What I keep coming back to is this; How can you form a message that will appeal to the free shit army that doesn't destroy the country? How can ANY message of work and responsibility trump "Free Shit for everybody!"

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:01 PM (bb5+k)

310 "Monkeys. In clown suits." Ah ah ah...in RODEO clown suits.

Posted by: Buck Smiley, Rodeo Clown/Freedom Fighter at August 21, 2013 12:01 PM (mm+xE)

311 Late to the party, but posts like this is why I'm an Ace of Spades person.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:02 PM (XIxXP)

312 I swear to God the inside of Chrissy's head must sound like a pod of dolphins chattering... Posted by: B at August 21, 2013 03:59 PM (twiRb) Monkeys. In clown suits. Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 04:00 PM (8sCoq) Metal bars clanging around.

Posted by: Peruvia Broadcasting Service at August 21, 2013 12:02 PM (mETGQ)

313 and self, denounced.

Posted by: Buck Smiley, Rodeo Clown/Freedom Fighter at August 21, 2013 12:02 PM (mm+xE)

314

"The numbers are even worse for black high school graduates: Only 5 percent are fully ready for life after high school."

 

And that is by today's low standards, which would be about a 6th grade level 70 or 80 years ago.

 

Idiocracy is not too far off.

Posted by: jwest at August 21, 2013 12:02 PM (u2a4R)

315 For names, how about “the religious left”.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 21, 2013 12:03 PM (QF8uk)

316 I have a plastic statue of Brian Dennehy on my dashboard, and I haven't got reported as being in one accident since.

Posted by: fat dead beetle at August 21, 2013 12:03 PM (7i4d6)

317 Metal bars clanging around. Posted by: Peruvia Broadcasting Service at August 21, 2013 04:02 PM (mETGQ) A piant mixing machine at full song.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:03 PM (XIxXP)

318

Mwahhaha...the John Ekdahl tweet!!

Posted by: DefendUSA at August 21, 2013 12:03 PM (S0aj8)

319 >"Monkeys. In clown suits."

Ah ah ah...in RODEO clown suits.




Why, you have described the devil himself.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 12:03 PM (8sCoq)

320 "Progressive" is BS too. Progress toward what? The authoritarianism of the 1930s? Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 03:59 PM (8sCoq) Just as the word "Forward!" was brought to light as an Hitlerian reference. Destroy the "progressive" connotation.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 12:03 PM (IXrOn)

321   I can't bring myself to refer to it as being "Progressive."  The celebrated 'right' to murder your children in a technologically advanced, civilized society does not resemble anything akin to progress. 

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 21, 2013 03:57 PM (tWmgi)

Considering how many ancient civilizations practiced infanticide, it most certainly isn't anything new, which they like to think their "progress" is. 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 21, 2013 12:03 PM (oY6Yp)

322 Posted by: ace at August 21, 2013 03:45 PM (/IWYB) True. I always try to toss in "radical" when naming left/ism/ist. The media does that constantly with "far right wing" all the time. Whatever the fuck that is. "Tea Party Terrorists" and all that nonsense. Leftists hate when you do it to them. My liberal sister was talking about when the "far right" lawmakers in Texas wanted to do away with the Lottery and the backlash about education funding. I first let her know that she's a fool if she thinks that money is reserved for education, then I asked her "What the fuck is "far" right about that? Texas is running a surplus right now, thanks to those "far rightwing nutjobs". And so suggesting they do away with the lottery is an extreme position? Unlike killing babies in the third trimester I guess? That's just main-fucking-stream?" I've stopped playing nice with friends and family. I may not have changed their minds, but they know not to bring it up anymore unless they bring it. And they can't Bring It.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 21, 2013 12:03 PM (+02SO)

323 D.C. government program to subsidize pot for poor patients

http://tinyurl.com/mg8kfrs

Posted by: caustic at August 21, 2013 12:03 PM (/b8+5)

324

The numbers are even worse for black high school graduates: Only 5 percent are fully ready for life after high school."

 

on the other hand, my kids are gonna rule!

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2013 12:03 PM (zOTsN)

325 I have a plastic statue of Brian Dennehy on my dashboard, and I haven't got reported as being in one accident since. Posted by: fat dead beetle at August 21, 2013 04:03 PM (7i4d6) Great place to hide your weed.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:03 PM (XIxXP)

326 Oddly enough, we know a lot more about Jesus' birth than we do about SCOAMF's.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 21, 2013 12:03 PM (WD0KF)

327

It puts the lotion into the abyss, and the abyss stares into it.

 

bwahahahaha funneh

Posted by: Bigby's Gripping Hand at August 21, 2013 12:04 PM (3ZtZW)

328
I swear to God the inside of Chrissy's head must sound like a pod of dolphins chattering...

Posted by: B at August 21, 2013 03:59 PM (twiRb)

Monkeys. In clown suits.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 04:00 PM (8sCoq)

Metal bars clanging around.

Posted by: Peruvia Broadcasting Service at August 21, 2013 04:02 PM (mETGQ)

The sound of glass-on-glass, like a Seagrams delivery truck on a bumpy road.

Posted by: zsasz at August 21, 2013 12:04 PM (MMC8r)

329 "Monkeys. In clown suits." Ah ah ah...in RODEO clown suits. Posted by: Buck Smiley, Rodeo Clown/Freedom Fighter at August 21, 2013 04:01 PM (mm+xE) Monkeys dressed up as jockeys riding Great Danes.

Posted by: Peruvia Broadcasting Service at August 21, 2013 12:04 PM (mETGQ)

330 on the other hand, my kids are gonna rule! Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2013 04:03 PM (zOTsN) Amen to that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:04 PM (XIxXP)

331 I don't care if it rains or freezes
long as I got my plastic Jesus
standing on the dashboard of my car

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 12:04 PM (8sCoq)

332 Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive. He was definitely in favor of the federal government blundering in & "fine tuning" all the stuff that dumb-asses like me just couldn't seem to get right on our own.

Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at August 21, 2013 12:04 PM (Td7pU)

333 Isn't this the same Chris Matthews who goes on regular rants about the proper pronunciation of Cheeee! He also went on a big time rant when Limbaugh used the term regime to describe the Obama team ignoring the fact that he used the term regime to describe the Bush administration constantly. He's either a drunk or mentally ill. Or both.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2013 12:04 PM (g1DWB)

334 This is why we need a conservative Jon Stewart. I don't personally care for him,but his style of humor could be devastating in a skit addressing Chrissy Mathews current utterances. Greg Gutfeld's Red Eye. Only problem is, Gutfeld's act only fully works in his 3:00 am time slot.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 21, 2013 12:05 PM (7ObY1)

335 Never read Sowell, but Campbell has had a profound impact upon my worldview.  Where as Islam is a religion acting as the state, Marxism is the same as Islam but with no Allah.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 12:05 PM (xDfWx)

336 "We stand a chance of getting a president who has probably killed more people before he gets into office than any president in the history of the United States."
Susan Sarandon

I hadn't heard that one.  I wonder if she's ever heard of Ulysses S. Grant?

Posted by: Fart at August 21, 2013 12:05 PM (2aB+q)

337 Burn the Witch at August 21, 2013 04:03 PM (+02SO)

You're so right. We need to mirror them and always add qualifiers like "ultra", "extreme" "far" when mentioning the Left.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2013 12:05 PM (UrtRh)

338 I don't care if it rains or freezes long as I got my plastic Jesus standing on the dashboard of my car Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 04:04 PM (8sCoq) Plastic Jesus gives me hope Plastic Jesus hides my dope Plastic Jesus on the dashboard of my car Plastic Jesus is my protector Helps me hide my radar detector Plastic Jesus on the dashboard of my car.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:06 PM (XIxXP)

339 He's either a drunk or mentally ill. He is a mean drunk. I have this on very high authority.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2013 12:07 PM (659DL)

340 What I keep coming back to is this; How can you form a message that will appeal to the free shit army that doesn't destroy the country? ----- Personally, I like the idea of giving guns to all law-abiding citizens. I also like parents $12,000 (or whatever the average cost per student is) per year to educate their child. Don't call them vouchers. Just say we will give you $12,000 for you to use at a school of your choice.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2013 12:07 PM (gw5z4)

341

hadn't heard that one. I wonder if she's ever heard of Ulysses S. Grant?

 

ya fuck her sideways with a pineapple, old whore

 

 

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2013 12:07 PM (zOTsN)

342 Yes, they like to call themselves progressives, to run from the taint of "liberal," that has been wounded, and turned dirty. Make "progressive" a dirty word, too. That is the plan. Make progressive a dirty word. Call them Nazi Eugenicists.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 12:07 PM (p9JxP)

343 339 "We stand a chance of getting a president who has probably killed more people before he gets into office than any president in the history of the United States."  Susan Sarandon 

I hadn't heard that one. I wonder if she's ever heard of Ulysses S. Grant? 
Posted by: Fart at August 21, 2013 04:05 PM (2aB+q)


If anything, that should be a qualifier.   George Washington will kill you in your sleep.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 21, 2013 12:07 PM (sGtp+)

344 It's "Jesus the Christ"* (which got shortened to "Jesus Christ"as people dropped the article "the") or "Christ Jesus" -- not "the Christ Jesus." You don't say "the King George" -- you say "King George" or "George the King."

IOW -- Chris Matthews is a complete idiot who doesn't even know the basics of how titles work.

*It's actually "Jesus the Christos" from the ancient Greek (the language the Gospels were written) word "Χριστούς," (pronounced "Christos"), which means "the anointed."

Posted by: Dancing Queen at August 21, 2013 12:07 PM (FDGeg)

345

>>So what are we going to call Hillary when she ascends the throne?

 

We may have to call her a forklift.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2013 12:07 PM (wAQA5)

346 The LIVs may be the most rational voting block for the Dems. Posted by: SH at August 21, 2013 03:56 PM (gw5z4) I was discussing that with dpub awhile back. We are on the third and maybe fourth generation of people who have been brought up in the welfare state. If all you've known is having housing through Section 8 and food via EBT and medical insurance through Medicaid and when there are no longer any jobs around you other than menial work, of course you are going to believe that the people who want to eliminate those programs are trying to take your home and money. They are. Hearing "but you can get a job" is a lie because no one you know has a good job. Of course it's rational to vote against that. Of course it is.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 21, 2013 12:07 PM (VtjlW)

347 The sound of glass-on-glass, like a Seagrams delivery truck on a bumpy road. Posted by: zsasz at August 21, 2013 04:04 PM (MMC8r) Car with a worn out fan belt.

Posted by: Peruvia Broadcasting Service at August 21, 2013 12:07 PM (mETGQ)

348 Amen & hallejuia Jones in Co

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at August 21, 2013 12:08 PM (HVff2)

349
I hadn't heard that one. I wonder if she's ever heard of Ulysses S. Grant?

Eisenhower? Shit, even Kennedy was supposed to be a big war hero according to the libs.

Posted by: zsasz at August 21, 2013 12:08 PM (MMC8r)

350 Oddly enough, we know a lot more about Jesus' birth than we do about SCOAMF's.

***

Paging Rashid Khalidi!

Posted by: B at August 21, 2013 12:08 PM (twiRb)

351

George Washington, Lincoln, Eisenhower

 

no no, only pussy metro sexuals for POTUS

 

what a dumbass scrunt.  She needs a good punting

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2013 12:08 PM (zOTsN)

352 My ancient Greek alphabet got mangled in my previous post. Sorry.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at August 21, 2013 12:08 PM (FDGeg)

353 "The sound of glass-on-glass, like a Seagrams delivery truck on a bumpy road."

Given the fact that the jackass drinks like Ted Kennedy on a bender, I'd say that sound pretty much echoes through the halls at 30 Rock all day every day.

Posted by: Jaws at August 21, 2013 12:09 PM (4I3Uo)

354 Hillary speaking - the sound of a car with bad power steering.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 12:09 PM (xDfWx)

355

"We stand a chance of getting a president who has probably killed more
people before he gets into office than any president in the history of
the United States."

Susan Sarandon

 

 

Go fetch your shine box, honey. 

...and a paper bag.

Posted by: Zombie Andrew Jackson at August 21, 2013 12:09 PM (7zLjC)

356 The sound of glass-on-glass, like a Seagrams delivery truck on a bumpy road. Posted by: zsasz at August 21, 2013 04:04 PM (MMC8r) Car with a worn out fan belt. Fran Drescher singing "Inna Gada Da Vida."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2013 12:09 PM (659DL)

357 Idiocracy is not too far off. They'll all end up working at Buttfukkers Or worse, giving hand-jobs at Starbucks.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 21, 2013 12:09 PM (7ObY1)

358 I have a plastic statue of Brian Dennehy on my dashboard, and I haven't got reported as being in one accident since. I know he was crazy, but I like George Carlin’s subsketch where he decides to worship the sun, but pray to Joe Pesci. “He looks like a guy who can get things done… for years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that *** out with one visit.” The rest of the sketch is crap, but that was funny.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 21, 2013 12:09 PM (QF8uk)

359 What I keep coming back to is this; How can you form a message that will appeal to the free shit army that doesn't destroy the country? ---- Also Bush tried to propose this with his reform of Social Security. The idea being we actually give you something that is yours. Not easy to do.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2013 12:09 PM (gw5z4)

360 Plastic Jesus gives me hope Plastic Jesus hides my dope Plastic Jesus on the dashboard of my car Plastic Jesus is my protector Helps me hide my radar detector Plastic Jesus on the dashboard of my car. Driving for Jesus, Driving for Jesus, Making all the lights! -George Carlin

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2013 12:10 PM (p9JxP)

361 Monkeys. In clown suits. Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 04:00 PM (8sCoq) Wind-up and with cymbals.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:10 PM (bb5+k)

362

"In truth, there are only two kinds of people; those who accept dogma and know it, and those who accept dogma and don't know it."

Posted by: GK Chesterton at August 21, 2013 12:10 PM (D0bIN)

363 Susan Serandan would type a response, but she is busy lifting her tits off her knees

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2013 12:10 PM (zOTsN)

364 So here is noted paranoid and homoerotic political theorist Chris Matthews now speculating that people refer to "Obama" as "Obama" and not "President Obama" for the same reason that non-Christians might call Jesus "Jesus" and not "the Christ Jesus."

Whenever I hear Chris Matthews' name the first thought that comes to mind is "Dumbfuck", so I guess I'll start calling him that...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 21, 2013 12:10 PM (vd7A8)

365 I hadn't heard that one. I wonder if she's ever heard of Ulysses S. Grant? Andrew Jackson farts in your general direction.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2013 12:11 PM (659DL)

366 283 That's why most Communists always try to get rid of religion-- it competes with The State. One day they will wise up and combine the two and--that will be hell on earth. Posted by: tasker at August 21, 2013 03:56 PM (r2PLg) I think you just described Islam.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2013 12:11 PM (zoehZ)

367 What I keep coming back to is this; How can you form a message that will appeal to the free shit army that doesn't destroy the country? That idea is dead, we have lost to many illiterate, armed generations. It's gonna be war or surrender.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:11 PM (XIxXP)

368 338 Never read Sowell, but Campbell has had a profound impact upon my worldview. Where as Islam is a religion acting as the state, Marxism is the same as Islam but with no Allah. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 04:05 PM (xDfWx) That's why they are in cahoots. Enemy of my enemy and all that. I think that Dr. Sowell has made it his business to teach those economic, social and, of course, political concepts to the regular citizen which were previously taught only to the well-educated. He does this well. .

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 12:12 PM (Tnlh/)

369 What I keep coming back to is this; How can you form a message that will appeal to the free shit army that doesn't destroy the country?

***

You can't.

See: Greece.

Posted by: B at August 21, 2013 12:12 PM (twiRb)

370 Yeah... I hate to say it but I'm absorbing my doses of Gutfeld more and more on Twitter and less and less through RedEye. If I actually watch the episodes on my DVR, I usually just watch Andy's intro and his Halftime Report. Gut's occasional 11:00 pm shows are a Godsend. I can actually watch them in real time. We definitely need more Gutfeld's on our side.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 21, 2013 12:12 PM (7ObY1)

371 372 ... Begrudgingly, I am drawn closer to believing this every day.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at August 21, 2013 12:12 PM (4p5/2)

372 Why, it would appear that Fox covered the apparent Christ like reverence afforded TFG in an article last November.
Read the whole think. There are certain little factoids that I wasn't aware of.

http://tinyurl.com/csb8o2o

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2013 12:12 PM (SfGRU)

373 I don't call Him Obama. I call him A$$hole.

Posted by: Dingbat at August 21, 2013 12:12 PM (iiGL6)

374 Also Bush tried to propose this with his reform of Social Security. The idea being we actually give you something that is yours. Not easy to do. I was disappointed they didnÂ’t move forward with that. ItÂ’s one of those things that will be controversial to begin with, but once implemented people will be afraid to repeal it.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 21, 2013 12:13 PM (QF8uk)

375

 "$12,000 (or whatever the average cost per student is) per year"

 

Depends on where it is.

 

In Washington D.C., the public school system costs $29.732 per student per year (closest approximation).  This is the total dollars spent per year divided by the number of students.

 

In Baltimore it is about $1800 less.  In Detroit, about $25,000 (1.3 billion spent, 50,000 kids).

 

Out in flyover country and the suburbs, it can be as low as $8,000.

Posted by: jwest at August 21, 2013 12:13 PM (u2a4R)

376 I think that Dr. Sowell has made it his business to teach those economic, social and, of course, political concepts to the regular citizen which were previously taught only to the well-educated. He does this well. . Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 04:12 PM (Tnlh/) He taught Sarah Palin, which prolly explains her prescience.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:13 PM (XIxXP)

377 Just as the word "Forward!" was brought to light as an Hitlerian reference. Destroy the "progressive" connotation. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2013 04:03 PM (IXrOn) To what you refer is a Media/Meme effort. Now if we only had a massive media infrastructure with which to spread it.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:13 PM (bb5+k)

378 >Amen & hallejuia Jones in Co


Please- I'm just A Man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOvGa-8-Lns


with bonus cowbell

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 12:13 PM (8sCoq)

379 Even the ancient Egyptians tried to erase all record of Akenaten after his disastrous rule.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 21, 2013 12:14 PM (vg8iE)

380 371 283 That's why most Communists always try to get rid of religion-- it competes with The State. One day they will wise up and combine the two and--that will be hell on earth. Posted by: tasker at August 21, 2013 03:56 PM (r2PLg) I think you just described Islam. Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2013 04:11 PM (zoehZ) **************** Well--there are a couple of things that keep that in check--for now. First it is divided on itself--decentralized. Second--....oh wait.

Posted by: tasker at August 21, 2013 12:14 PM (r2PLg)

381 How can ANY message of work and responsibility trump "Free Shit for everybody!"


Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 04:01 PM (bb5+k)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

Rush has discussed this on numerous  occasions.   There's no  conservative message that can trump "womb to tomb" coddling.  Our education system has been  one of the catalysts  for this mindset.  

 

It's all going to have to burn before any minds are to be changed.

Posted by: Soona at August 21, 2013 12:14 PM (MdA2X)

382 Now if we only had a massive media infrastructure with which to spread it. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 04:13 PM (bb5+k) Love him or hate him, Glen Beck tried. They picked Al Jezeera instead.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:15 PM (XIxXP)

383 367 Susan Serandan would type a response, but she is busy lifting her tits off her knees I needed a funneh right now. Ever seen her in the old early-70s Peter Boyle flick "Joe?" She had some fine tittehs back then I gotta say. And they're sure on display in that flick. Plus, "Joe" is about a couple of fed-up guys killing hippies, so there's that too.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 21, 2013 12:15 PM (7ObY1)

384 I've stopped playing nice with friends and family. I may not have changed their minds, but they know not to bring it up anymore unless they bring it. And they can't Bring It. Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 21, 2013 04:03 PM (+02SO) Silencing debate by invoking outrage is a favorite tactic of the left. It works, and if it's the best we can do, i'll take it. Yeah, i'd rather reason people into an idea, but if the only alternative is shouting them down, i'll just have to take it.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:16 PM (bb5+k)

385 The Left is unhinged and has no ideas?!  Whoa, color me shocked.

Just kidding.  As usual, a good post, Ace.

Posted by: Null at August 21, 2013 12:17 PM (xjpRj)

386 'Bama, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz.
My friends all drive Porches I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends.
So 'Bama, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 21, 2013 12:17 PM (Hx5uv)

387 I was discussing that with dpub awhile back. We are on the third and maybe fourth generation of people who have been brought up in the welfare state. If all you've known is having housing through Section 8 and food via EBT and medical insurance through Medicaid and when there are no longer any jobs around you other than menial work, of course you are going to believe that the people who want to eliminate those programs are trying to take your home and money. They are. Hearing "but you can get a job" is a lie because no one you know has a good job. Of course it's rational to vote against that. Of course it is.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 21, 2013 04:07 PM (VtjlW)


That's a decent point.  The sad reality is good jobs are never coming back to the cities.  Cities are too expensive and do not have as good of infrastructure and potential workforce as suburbs and small towns.  So manufacturing and other jobs that might pay a low-skilled, medium-to-low educated person are simply not going to move back into the city, regardless of what "incentives" they give out.  If I can build a manufacturing plant in a semi-rural community, where land is cheap, there is plenty of parking, there aren't as many regulations or government grifters, and still have a large and relevant labor pool to draw from, why would I build in the City?


the idea of saving the cities, or bringing in good jobs is insane.  The answer is moving people - particularly the poor - out of cities to where they have a much better chance at finding a decent job and where the expenses are much lower so that any job they do find can sustain them.


So, when we talk about the democrats keeping black Americans on the plantation, it is not just ideological, it is literal.  The plantations in this case are the dead cities where there are no jobs and no hope, but from which democrats can reap votes by keeping poor blacks locked in.  Democrats want to give poor inner-city blacks just enough to keep them alive and able to vote, but don't want to improve their lot because to do so could effect the dems' lock on those votes.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at August 21, 2013 12:17 PM (sOx93)

388 It's actually okay that he and others are doing this.

They have gone to such extremes that even the most wish washy moderate who stalls at the checkout counter when asked "paper or plastic" can see that what they are saying is irrational.

They then begin to question EVERYTHING they say and this can and will to many being enlightened as to the willingness of the left to go to any extremes embrace any evil thing to attain what they believe to be best for the rest of us and to assuage their guilt and thirst for control.

I've been on sites I would never believe would have anything sensible to say in response to the normal craziness and they appear now to be willing to at least listen thoughtfully to an opposite view from what they normally would have cheered on without regard to any other.

They're also beginning to see that Obama is or at least has become the very thing they KNEW Bush/Cheney was.

They now understand that his promises are empty and that his words are meant to be parsed however the listener wants but that Obama isn't to be held to blame for any lack or failure.

They can understand that words can have more than one meaning and assuming that what he said was what you THOUGHT he meant has been shown to be false and most times diametrically opposite to what was ASSUMED.

We all know that but it is now that those, who refused to see what we kept pointing out prior to now, are now realizing they bought a lie. Lock, Stock and Barrel. And find that we are on a path that may lead to worse things happening.

With enlightenment comes decision.

The only Fly in the Ointment is the Republican party establishment.

I don't think they're up to leading the country out of the ditch that Obama has put us into.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 21, 2013 12:17 PM (28TG+)

389

“They’ve changed it so much that he’s actually not really supposed to be there,” [Matthews] continued.

====

Obama ACTS like he's not really supposed to be there.  He doesn't govern, and as numerous pundits have pointed out, he acts like he's running for office, not in it.

 

So stuff it, Crissie.

Posted by: Charlotte Corday at August 21, 2013 12:17 PM (4bCZC)

390 Plus, "Joe" is about a couple of fed-up guys killing hippies, so there's that too. Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 21, 2013 04:15 PM (7ObY1) My first memory of my Dad is having a hippy by the ponytail punching him in the face after the he was spit upon outside the gate of 32nd street naval base in San Diego.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:17 PM (XIxXP)

391 >Ever seen her in the old early-70s Peter Boyle flick "Joe?"

She had some fine tittehs back then I gotta say. And they're sure on display in that flick.



TO THE GOOGLE!

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 12:18 PM (8sCoq)

392 My first memory of my Dad is having a hippy by the ponytail punching him in the face after the he was spit upon outside the gate of 32nd street naval base in San Diego. Damn, I didn't even know him and I man-love your Dad. Awesome!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 21, 2013 12:19 PM (7ObY1)

393 Never read Sowell, but Campbell has had a profound impact upon my worldview. Where as Islam is a religion acting as the state, Marxism is the same as Islam but with no Allah. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 04:05 PM (xDfWx) Sowell is pretty good. He's quite insightful at times. His writing style is not as easy to follow as say George Will or Walter Williams, but when he makes a point, he makes a hell of a good point. I have some of his commentary saved in files because he just absolutely nails it on occasion.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:19 PM (bb5+k)

394 The peddlers of this pernicious state as all father then dress it all up.  They stroke the egos of their followers by praising them as smart and lucky, for they are about to be shown the secrets to material salvation.  Its the Oriental mindset that only initiates will be saved or promoted.  So sucker in a bunch of LIV, tell them lies, and then soothe them with the whispered lie that those attacking just don't understand.  And then whisper again that those who do not understand must be done away with.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 12:19 PM (xDfWx)

395 Man, that is the truth about Peter King.

Posted by: Pooter Hound at August 21, 2013 12:20 PM (HASJZ)

396 I've been reading "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" and the author makes an excellent point about people's varying approach to knowledge.  One person wants to do the work himself, feeling that he will gain an understanding of the underlying structure of the work, and thus knowledge of how the system works; the other person would prefer the work be done by experts, who have already gained the knowledge needed. 

The second person is now entirely dependent on the experts he has chosen.  And if those experts might seem to be not-so-expert, he will vigorously defend them because criticism of them is criticism of the choices he has made, and thus, of his self.

The Left definitely loves to choose themselves some experts, and we've seen how they react when those experts are criticized. 

Posted by: Null at August 21, 2013 12:20 PM (xjpRj)

397 Damn, I didn't even know him and I man-love your Dad. Awesome! Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 21, 2013 04:19 PM (7ObY1) My father was not a nice man. His tolerance for bullshit was very low..

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:21 PM (XIxXP)

398 But ok to refer to Bush as village idiot?

Posted by: USA at August 21, 2013 12:21 PM (VIaw0)

399 372 What I keep coming back to is this; How can you form a message that will appeal to the free shit army that doesn't destroy the country? That idea is dead, we have lost to many illiterate, armed generations. It's gonna be war or surrender. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 04:11 PM (XIxXP) I've been thinking about this and I also think that re formulating the message is pointless. Most of us who used to be Democrats and changed our minds did so because we were already predisposed to read, study and re-evaluate. Those who aren't can only change through some sort of Damascus Road-like experience. For the most part, that won't happen and, as a result, things which are a lot worse will.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 12:22 PM (Tnlh/)

400 They are. Hearing "but you can get a job" is a lie because no one you know has a good job. Of course it's rational to vote against that. Of course it is. Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 21, 2013 04:07 PM (VtjlW) Compulsory work or education should be a prerequisite for any receipt of welfare funds. You can't make the hammock more comfortable than life.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:22 PM (bb5+k)

401 But ok to refer to Bush as village idiot? Posted by: USA at August 21, 2013 04:21 PM (VIaw0) I'm not a Bush sycophant but he was smarter than Obama will ever be. The bitch of it is, the left knows it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:23 PM (XIxXP)

402

I think MSNBC could turn things around by relacing Chrissie's hour with "Roadrunner" cartoons.  Don't tell Chris, of course, just have a small crew in the studio to turn the little red lights on the cameras on and off, and he'd be none the wiser, and the advertizers would start getting the eyeballs they are paying for.

 

I'd watch for sure.  I love Roadrunner cartoons, and they are less predictable in their outcome than MSNBC's political commentaries.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 21, 2013 12:24 PM (BKPeM)

403 Wasn't his father the one that 'delegitimized' him?

Posted by: t-bird at August 21, 2013 12:24 PM (n5mZ4)

404 Fox News Leisure ‏@fxnleisure 20m

Woman dislocates jaw after biting into a triple hamburger | Fox News http://fxn.ws/14DIp0I 

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 12:24 PM (8sCoq)

405 Also Bush tried to propose this with his reform of Social Security. The idea being we actually give you something that is yours. Not easy to do. Posted by: SH at August 21, 2013 04:09 PM (gw5z4) I am confident that it is now impossible. There is too much disconnect in America between it's current population and it's hard working roots.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:25 PM (bb5+k)

406 who gives a shit what chris matthews claims?

Posted by: Vikings fan at August 21, 2013 12:25 PM (cDwCa)

407

If they really were progressive, wouldn't they pay people for beneficial behavior instead of destructive behavior?  Why couldn't we pay welfare mothers not to have children instead of rewarding by the head?

As always, the answer must lie with rewarding Democrat voters somehow

Posted by: Pooter Hound at August 21, 2013 12:25 PM (HASJZ)

408 Yeah, i'd rather reason people into an idea, but if the only alternative is shouting them down, i'll just have to take it.


Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 04:16 PM (bb5+k)

 

 

-------------------------------------------------

 

 

I don't rant and rave at obstinate  leftists.  I look them in the eye and tell them, when  TSHTF, you better not find yourself in my sight picture.

Posted by: Soona at August 21, 2013 12:25 PM (MdA2X)

409 Fox News Leisure ‏@fxnleisure 20m Woman dislocates jaw after biting into a triple hamburger | Fox News http://fxn.ws/14DIp0I Posted by: Jones in CO at August 21, 2013 04:24 PM (8sCoq) I think we are looking at evolution where like the python needed the dislocatable jaw to swallow the boar, the fat chicks will need it to bite the triples.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:26 PM (XIxXP)

410 I'd also note this idea comes from the same crowd who spent six of Bush's eight years saying, "My President is Josiah Bartlett." (The TV President on that stupid Aaron Sorkin show.)

No, their president played by Martin Sheen was Greg Stillson from The Dead Zone

Posted by: kbdabear at August 21, 2013 12:26 PM (/9IC1)

411 The crop of LIV and Idiotocracy is making the CoDo look positively lovely.  Then again the CoDo had whole planets to dump problem populations on.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 12:26 PM (xDfWx)

412 So, when we talk about the democrats keeping black Americans on the plantation, it is not just ideological, it is literal. The plantations in this case are the dead cities where there are no jobs and no hope, but from which democrats can reap votes by keeping poor blacks locked in. Democrats want to give poor inner-city blacks just enough to keep them alive and able to vote, but don't want to improve their lot because to do so could effect the dems' lock on those votes. Posted by: Monkeytoe at August 21, 2013 04:17 PM (sOx93) This a description of school slavery to a tee, except for the voluntary part. That last part is the (evil) genius of the concept.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 12:27 PM (Tnlh/)

413 Apparently Matthews doesn't frequent the comments here. 'Obama' is probably the most respectful term that is ever used in regard to the President. If Chrissy thinks that the use of 'Obama' is demeaning, he is quite wrong. It is akin to Crocodile Dundee's comment when the punk pulls a little knife out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 21, 2013 12:27 PM (aDwsi)

414 This a description of school slavery to a tee, except for the voluntary part. That last part is the (evil) genius of the concept. Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 04:27 PM (Tnlh/) Which is why school choice died no matter how many fine black families wanted it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:28 PM (XIxXP)

415 That idea is dead, we have lost to many illiterate, armed generations. It's gonna be war or surrender. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 04:11 PM (XIxXP) This is how I see it as well, but Ace seemed to think we could moderate/modulate our message to appeal to urban voters in sufficient quantities as to make a difference. I don't think a message which appeals to them is capable of correcting our course. We will crash anyway.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:28 PM (bb5+k)

416 Has Zombie Obama eaten his brain?

Posted by: Northernlurker at August 21, 2013 12:29 PM (dyN6D)

417 I'm not a Bush sycophant but he was smarter than Obama will ever be. The bitch of it is, the left knows it. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 04:23 PM (XIxXP Remember when BHO ripped on Americans for a not knowing any languages besides English? He speaks only English (barely)! GWB actually speaks Spanish.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 12:30 PM (Tnlh/)

418 "I was disappointed they didnÂ’t move forward with that."

That was Team Bush's problem. Once they encountered resistance from the usual people, they rarely ever persisted by countering. Case in point - the 2003 hearing where Barney Asshole Frank and Mel Watt pushed back against reining in Fannie Mae. We all know how that turned out.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 21, 2013 12:30 PM (vd7A8)

419 political concepts to the regular citizen which were previously taught only to the well-educated. He does this well. . Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 04:12 PM (Tnlh/) I'm not seeing any evidence that the "Well educated" ever learned these political concepts. They appear to be the worst offenders against competent economic policy.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:31 PM (bb5+k)

420 They appear to be the worst offenders against competent economic policy. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 04:31 PM (bb5+k) Don't confuse the highly degreed with the well educated.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:31 PM (XIxXP)

421 I'd also note this idea comes from the same crowd who spent six of Bush's eight years saying, "My President is Josiah Bartlett." (The TV President on that stupid Aaron Sorkin show.) That's my President. A great man...too bad he didn't have any rachni to use in "persuading" his detractors.

Posted by: The Illusive Man at August 21, 2013 12:32 PM (X866z)

422 You can't. See: Greece. Posted by: B at August 21, 2013 04:12 PM (twiRb) That's my point. Open ended Democracy cannot be fixed. It has no self restraint. Changing the message to attract the foolish simply puts us in charge of implementing policies which are destroying us anyway. Lose lose.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:32 PM (bb5+k)

423 *We would be the Devil, here.*
Awesome.  Gonna tell the wife that I got a promotion.

Honestly, its sad knowing that our society is going to be the butt of jokes for ages to come.  There are going to be two sets of Godwin's law, one for the supreme evil, the Nazis, and another for the supreme stupidity, us. 

Who elected a credentialed PR spokesman and a mental retard to run the most complex, largest and cumbersome entity in the world?  Us!

Who  ran up trillions in dollars in debt while having election fights over how fast to increase the rate of spending?  Us!

In the middle of the economy coming to a long, shuddering halt, who decided to that the important issue of the day was whether two men could call themselves a customary social, economic, and reproductive unit?  These guys!  Right here!

Who decided to fix their economic woes by importing their neighboring banana republic's low-skills peasant class?  Us again!

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at August 21, 2013 12:33 PM (ZMzpb)

424 I'd also note this idea comes from the same crowd who spent six of Bush's eight years saying, "My President is Josiah Bartlett." (The TV President on that stupid Aaron Sorkin show.) Well, Obama does work about an hour a week, so there is a parallel.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 12:33 PM (XIxXP)

425 Love him or hate him, Glen Beck tried. They picked Al Jezeera instead. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 04:15 PM (XIxXP) I support the efforts of people like Glenn Beck and Glenn Reynolds to create alternative media through which conservative messages and entertainment may be allowed to compete.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:35 PM (bb5+k)

426 Highly degreed?  You mean those with the best pedigree?  A row of papers mounted upon the wall attesting the bearer has had all the right tickets punched?  Thought in the Navy they called it the Love Me wall and the ones with the biggest were actually the worst officers to cross paths with since they oft were louts and idiots with exaggerated sense of worth because of all those decorations upon the wall.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2013 12:35 PM (xDfWx)

427 My first memory of my Dad is having a hippy by the ponytail punching him in the face after the he was spit upon outside the gate of 32nd street naval base in San Diego. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 04:17 PM (XIxXP) Good on him.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:37 PM (bb5+k)

428 I'm not seeing any evidence that the "Well educated" ever learned these political concepts. They appear to be the worst offenders against competent economic policy. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 04:31 PM (bb5+k Granted, but learning about them is different from subscribing to them.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 12:38 PM (Tnlh/)

429 I just accidentally swollowed some scrabble tiles. My next crap could spell OBAMA, how many points do I get? 

Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 21, 2013 12:39 PM (jsWA8)

430 My father was not a nice man. His tolerance for bullshit was very low.. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 21, 2013 04:21 PM (XIxXP) What's not nice about that? I love that!

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:39 PM (bb5+k)

431 For the most part, that won't happen and, as a result, things which are a lot worse will. Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 04:22 PM (Tnlh/) This is what I see and what I worry about.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:40 PM (bb5+k)

432 I wonder what this ankle grabber for the SCOD is going to do in 2017 when he's out of office. How are these people not sick of themselves by now? A cult of personality is one thing but this is like snake handling. WTH?

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at August 21, 2013 12:41 PM (X+nFp)

433 I've been reading "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" and the author makes an excellent point about people's varying approach to knowledge.....

The Left definitely loves to choose themselves some experts, and we've seen how they react when those experts are criticized.
Posted by: Null
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I read that about 30 years ago. I recall the incident where the author suggested to a friend that they use strips of aluminum beer can to shim the loose handlebar clamps on his bike, and his friend recoiled in horror.

That all came back to me when a friend was passing through on his BMW R65(?), whatever. It had developed a weepy fuel line. As fate would have it, I had some of the *exact* fuel line on hand, left over from a VW repair. The usual black fabric coated stuff that the Germans used on lots of stuff. He refused to allow me to replace it, saying, "I think I should take it to an authorized BMW dealer". I was flabbergasted..., but he insisted, so we rode the 35 miles or so to a dealer. Idiot.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 21, 2013 12:41 PM (aDwsi)

434 Granted, but learning about them is different from subscribing to them. Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 04:38 PM (Tnlh/) Ha! You mean they are like Isaac Asimov's commentary on why he refused to fly: "I understand the principles of flight. I just don't believe in them. "

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 12:45 PM (bb5+k)

435 Well, Obama does work about act at being President  an hour a week, so there is a parallel. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 21, 2013 12:45 PM (aDwsi)

436 439 Granted, but learning about them is different from subscribing to them. Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 04:38 PM (Tnlh/) Ha! You mean they are like Isaac Asimov's commentary on why he refused to fly: "I understand the principles of flight. I just don't believe in them. " Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 21, 2013 04:45 PM (bb5+k) That! And some want to rule. Capitalism does not provide a basis for tyranny.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 12:53 PM (Tnlh/)

437

"Matthews was talking to the author of “Bush’s Brain”… not “President Bush’s Brain”, I noticed"

 

You're welcome :-)

Posted by: speedster1 at August 21, 2013 12:54 PM (v40Bj)

438 Regarding the religious hysteria surrounding Obama, this video came out during the 2008 election and still gives me chills (perhaps a bit over the top, but conveys the fanaticism) http://youtu.be/8xtNr5-up0U

Posted by: Thorrison at August 21, 2013 01:00 PM (GdUWB)

439 Pickle-brained Talky: "'People on the right say he's a disaster, which he's not. Look at what he's already accomplished,'..."

If it'll help, Drunkles McScotch, think of SCoaMF as a Katrina -- a huge disturbance that, while accomplishing considerable and historic devastation, was very effective doing what it does. IOW a disaster as originally stated.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 21, 2013 01:06 PM (eHIJJ)

440 who ever called Obama a "liberal leader"? the dude was backbencher in the Illinois and us senates, and only won the democrat primary because Hillary!™ is a shrill cuckold and racism® and white guilt©.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at August 21, 2013 01:10 PM (EYVb8)

441 The Liberal unspoken meaning ... It's different when I do it!

And MISTER Nixon says "Hi," Matthews, you partisan hack.

Posted by: acethepug at August 21, 2013 01:17 PM (4kvfA)

442

Chris Tingles may not be paranoid, but he's definitely a witch.

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at August 21, 2013 01:17 PM (nbGZj)

443 Isn't this coming from the same liberal mind who called President Bush, "Mr Bush" to separate him from the office of President?

Posted by: Jailman at August 21, 2013 01:19 PM (25ckQ)

444 Good post, Ace.

I for one, greatly admired president Reagan. Greatest president of my lifetime, even if I live to be 150.  However, he was not a god.  I disagreed with him on issues like gun control. 


Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2013 01:26 PM (Rk8LS)

445

Me, Myself, and I, (personally speaking, of course) normally refer to PRESIDENT Obama as "Helen Thomas' Cooch Cheese". 

 

Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2013 01:45 PM (5mRmR)

446 I just call him the POTARD.

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at August 21, 2013 01:47 PM (RwgkL)

447 "I've been thinking about this and I also think that re formulating the message is pointless. Most of us who used to be Democrats and changed our minds did so because we were already predisposed to read, study and re-evaluate. Those who aren't can only change through some sort of Damascus Road-like experience.

For the most part, that won't happen and, as a result, things which are a lot worse will.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2013 04:22 PM (Tnlh/)"



The thing is that among kids today


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wCXr_6wgns



reading is kind of a specialized activity that some people do but it is not universal.  Video games are a lot more common.  Since I am not part of that world, I don't know if those kind of ideas are part of the games or if they even can be incorporated into game play.  It would seem that basic economics would be part of a lot of game structures where players have to accumulate resources and if they spend resources on one thing, they are not available for another.  Are there games that allow players to borrow and get themselves buried in debt?

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 21, 2013 01:49 PM (31Nrp)

448 would have been way better put to marilyn manson's version

Posted by: dogbert at August 21, 2013 02:55 PM (PKHKi)

449 Two words I have never used in the same sentence-
1. president
2. obama
As a matter of fact, I use the correct arabic spelling for obama's name. That would be ubama. Nor do I ever capitalize that guy's name. Do these acts of mine show disrespect, or disdain? I sure hope like hell they do.

Posted by: EROWMER at August 21, 2013 04:19 PM (OONaw)

450 He's barking up the wrong tree.  The real question may be why our current president has no nickname.  Even the ones who only retain their popularity inside their own party usually have a nickname. 

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at August 21, 2013 04:56 PM (4QwE4)

451 In my family, it was always "JESUS H. CHRIST" - so to show respect I guess it would have to be Barack H. Obama, right?

Oh, that's right. Never mind.

Posted by: exliberal at August 21, 2013 05:32 PM (leIQP)

452 Not too often I read a post at Ace's little shop that could as easily have been posted at Daily Breast Exam or Slaht. I can't find Matthews fans on the right, the left, TV (except MS tv), in print, anywhere. There was a piece at Salon years ago where a resident furry was pimping Tweetybird as a blue cable zircon inside a natural meth grotto or something, but that's it. I've posted this before: THIS IS BI-PARTISAN. We can all come together on this and maybe then he won't just lose his ABC show and his extra hour; maybe we get him pushed to C-PAC TV or a local community services advisory. This is in EVERYONE's interest, including his. HEY TWEETS: you can even write MORE books no one reads, that sound like good fun?

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at August 21, 2013 10:19 PM (w45V0)

453 I just call the preezy one of several nic-names like obysmal, obowmao, l'il barry dunham, and some others I don't use very often. It's only because I completely resent his presence in the oval office. He is the ineligible usurper who violated the Logan Act while a US Senator. Everytime I see a photoop/shop, my gaydar slams into the right wall.

Wow, chrissy isn't paranoid, I really don't care for teh WON.

Posted by: Blacksmith8 at August 22, 2013 02:40 AM (3zW8P)

454 Is it hateful to create a Google Alert for "Chris Matthews gut shot and set on fire" ?

Posted by: vanderleun at August 22, 2013 08:45 AM (U32VZ)

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