December 08, 2013

Imaginary Gun Thread
— andy

In honor of South Eastern Middle School in Fawn Grove, PA, today's gun thread is imaginary but apparently still just as deadly.

A fifth grader in [Pennsylvania] has been suspended for shooting an imaginary arrow at a classmate. The 10-year-old also faces possible expulsion.

The Rutherford Institute, which is defending Johnny Jones, says he was told he violated the schoolÂ’s zero tolerance policy on weapons. TheyÂ’re working to get the suspension reversed and lifted from his permanent record.

On Friday night’s The Kelly File, defense attorney Jonna Spilbor reacted to the ordeal. “Here’s how ridiculous it is. If we’re going to punish this poor kid for pretending to shoot a bow and arrow, let’s ticket his parents for parking their unicorn in a fire zone.”

OTOH, this could spawn a whole new branch of the "Little Johnny" joke genre, so there's that.

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1 For God's sake. What have we become?

Posted by: Gem at December 08, 2013 05:06 AM (zw+pb)

2 God ferbid that someone shoots an imaginary spitball.

Posted by: Freaked at December 08, 2013 05:07 AM (PS2gA)

3 The Land of the Chicken Shit, Home of the Anally Retentive.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 05:08 AM (LSDdO)

4 A rat. A big fuckin rat.

Posted by: Sockpuppet in training at December 08, 2013 05:08 AM (Fjrcl)

5 Yes folks...no totalitarian bent at all to these educators, activists, asshole politicians, judges etc etc etc

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 05:08 AM (9jfyN)

6 For God's sake. What have we become? (Stolen from demotivators at despair.com) "It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black." http://www.despair.com/despair.html

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2013 05:09 AM (V3kRK)

7 Thank heavens he did not aim an imaginary gun.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 05:09 AM (aDwsi)

8 3 Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 09:08 AM (LSDdO)

Which is why I support break-up of the union....

basically the union is requiring met o be in league with insane nutballs...

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 05:09 AM (9jfyN)

9 Well then.  I guess this means I cannot take the 7yr old girl spawn out in the freezing temps to play with an imaginary flame thrower.  I wish the cold was imaginary.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 05:10 AM (S2RnE)

10 Was it an imaginary Crossbow or an Imaginary Long Bow?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 05:10 AM (LSDdO)

11 Was it an imaginary Crossbow or an Imaginary Long Bow? Posted by: Bitter Clinger ---------- Troublemaker.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 05:11 AM (aDwsi)

12 9 madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 09:10 AM (S2RnE)

If only Obama could be punished for his imaginary health care fixes...

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 05:11 AM (9jfyN)

13 We have shit like this, and then Knockout in the real world. When are we going to start suing the crap out of these schools?

Posted by: Gem at December 08, 2013 05:11 AM (zw+pb)

14 How about we arrange for the administration to find themselves imagining that they're employed?

Posted by: Juan de Hattatime at December 08, 2013 05:12 AM (p7LQY)

15 13 Gem at December 08, 2013 09:11 AM (zw+pb)

We need some lawyers and the will to engage in lawfare.

This and network centric based conflict are battlefields the right has totally ceded.

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 05:12 AM (9jfyN)

16 Can we hunt down imaginary school administrators with imaginary dogs?

Posted by: That SOB van Owen at December 08, 2013 05:13 AM (8bBsO)

17 Obama needs a suspension for his imaginary omniscience, omnipotence and omnipresence.

(oh wait. He IS omnipresent. The f**ker is everywhere, inserting himself into everything. Over/under on him hogging Mandela's funeral somehow?)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 05:13 AM (LSDdO)

18 The parents should imagine beating the crap out of all involved for their actual stupidity.  The community should imagine dragging them out into the town square and tar and feathering them, with imaginary tar and feathers, of course.

The people that perpetrate such idiocy on our children are no better than your local DMV petty tyrant.

Posted by: flounder at December 08, 2013 05:14 AM (Kkt/i)

19 Schools have become dens of inequity and insanity.  I blame three groups.  Teachers colleges, lawyers, and sue happy people.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2013 05:14 AM (RlOaM)

20 This is utterly insane.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 05:14 AM (YVn+0)

21 He could have put an imaginary eye out.

Posted by: flounder at December 08, 2013 05:15 AM (Kkt/i)

22 Anyone know where I can get a good deal on ammo for my imaginary .45?

Posted by: Moxie at December 08, 2013 05:16 AM (Gtr0B)

23 @ 22  I just use, "Pew, Pew, Pew!" And I never run out.

Posted by: flounder at December 08, 2013 05:19 AM (Kkt/i)

24 Just think if he had thrown an imaginary grenade. He would have gotten a one way ticket to Gitmo.

Posted by: jmel at December 08, 2013 05:20 AM (cfFqn)

25 Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in fearful servitude...

Posted by: Yoko Bono's Plastic U2ube at December 08, 2013 05:21 AM (wgzFF)

26 Kid's parents' defense should be that little Johnny was just emulating his hero Robin Hood and was only aiming his crossbow/longbow at the rich doctor's kid. Or pretending to be a "Native American" fighting against the genocidal cavalry. Etc. Let the school district choke a little on their PC bullshit

Posted by: Sharkman at December 08, 2013 05:21 AM (y5F8o)

27 Imagine there's no imagination. It's easy if you try.

Posted by: Freaked at December 08, 2013 05:22 AM (PS2gA)

28 Yoko Bono. Ha!

Posted by: Freaked at December 08, 2013 05:23 AM (PS2gA)

29 His actions were a real threat to the imaginary learning that was going on there.

Posted by: Bivalve Curious at December 08, 2013 05:24 AM (aGqSh)

30 I just got an imaginary bill, for the latest imaginary firearms and ammo purchase. Can I pay for them with imaginary dollars or "dream-coins:" the new bitcoin?

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at December 08, 2013 05:24 AM (nWBvT)

31 Schools have become dens of inequity and insanity. I blame three groups. Teachers colleges, lawyers, and sue happy people. Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2013 09:14 AM (RlOaM) The school trying to blame the PTA is an attempt to protect themselves. I have never seen a school that doesn't work closely with the PTA. This is about money more than anything else. The statement that everyone donates money proves it. They are scared that someone with deep pockets is going to be offended and put away the checkbook.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 08, 2013 05:24 AM (uzmcT)

32 Pew, pew, pew is 9 mm

Pow, Pow, Pow is .45

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 05:25 AM (LSDdO)

33 What the charge for an
Imaginary Education

Posted by: Gordon Gekko at December 08, 2013 05:25 AM (e8kgV)

34 How do they know it wasn't a nerf bow?

Posted by: Guido at December 08, 2013 05:26 AM (LsF5M)

35 Little Johnny was demonstrating his appreciation for our primitive aboriginal peoples legacy weaponry.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 05:26 AM (LSDdO)

36 Little Johnny, feeling bright Bought a stick of dynamite. Curiosity seldom pays. It rained Johnny for seven days.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 05:26 AM (EIbo8)

37
Old/Busted - Minority Report precogs and real crimes
New Hotness - just fabricate crimes with no basis at all

We're BEYOND the science fiction scenarios now

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 08, 2013 05:28 AM (UVadJ)

38 Imaginary gun thread? So this isn't a real thread? Do our imaginary comments have to be on topic? Or is there an imaginary open thread?

Posted by: Imaginary Mama AJ at December 08, 2013 05:28 AM (SUKHu)

39 Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at December 08, 2013 09:24 AM (nWBvT)

Then some imaginary large men will come and give your imaginary knees an imaginary tuneup.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 05:28 AM (LSDdO)

40 Did I get this straight? I'm not allowed to park my unicorn by a fire hydrant? Crap.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 05:30 AM (0wRu6)

41 It's time to bring back public flogging, chained to a post in the town square.

Yes, I mean it.

Posted by: backhoe at December 08, 2013 05:31 AM (ULH4o)

42 Submitted my application for Designated Firearms Collector status the other day.
Let's watch the time it takes to get processed.

Mrs VIA continues to wait on her purchase paperwork.

Tomorrow, I get to submit paperwork for another Lower.
Theoretically, ten days after that, I can bring it home.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 05:31 AM (ElylP)

43 1. It was Cupid's arrow.  He's actually gay.
2. He noticed conservative hateful behavior and was shooting it.
3. He was mimicking the childhood of our next Indian-American president Elizabeth Warren.

Any of the above should get the school to immediately back off and clap their hands.

Posted by: AE at December 08, 2013 05:31 AM (HYceo)

44 Imaginary thread!  Feckin' AWESOME!

Posted by: Santa Claus at December 08, 2013 05:31 AM (jucos)

45 I think the imaginary Gun-of-the-Week is a pump-action rifle...

Posted by: Moxie at December 08, 2013 05:32 AM (Gtr0B)

46 letÂ’s ticket his parents for parking their unicorn in a fire zone

The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 05:32 AM (hO8IJ)

47 I wish the last 5 years were a figment of my imagination...

Posted by: runningrn at December 08, 2013 05:32 AM (IPB8r)

48 Sending your kid to a public skool is parental malpractice, per se.

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at December 08, 2013 05:32 AM (KMEac)

49 WTF?  Over.

Posted by: dogfish at December 08, 2013 05:33 AM (nsOJa)

50 Not me, but most boys, like 95%+ play with toy guns or bows and arrows etc, imaginary or otherwise. How is not this savage attack on boyishness not really sex discrimination?

Posted by: Baldy at December 08, 2013 05:33 AM (2bql3)

51 I'm just thankful no one has noticed the imaginary gun turret mounted on the roof of the Radishmobile.  GET OUT OF MY WAY.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 05:33 AM (hO8IJ)

52 Now I'm really pissed! You guys got your unicorns already?!!!

Posted by: runningrn at December 08, 2013 05:34 AM (IPB8r)

53 I personally have a 20 ton ram affixed to my front AND rear bumpers.

To assist those pesky slow drivers and other idiots out of the way.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 05:35 AM (LSDdO)

54

Baby girl and I had a strange conversation about guns last week.  She says she doesn't want to watch any movies or tv shows that have "killing" in them. I said well no, those sorts of shows are not appropriate for little kids. All that blood and guts flying around isn't real but she still is a little young for that kind of thing. She sits silent for a minute and says "I don't like guns Mommy, they kill people."

Now it is not often that I hit instant medieval hellfire rage but I know damn well that kid heard that line from someone who is NOT a member of our family. I seriously had to count down from 20 before I responded. 

My response:  Sweetie, guns don't kill people, people kill people. A gun is a tool, just like a hammer or a saw or even a car.  One uses these tools to make life easier/better/safer.  A gun is a tool we use to protect ourselves and our families, and to provide food by hunting.  It can be a dangerous tool if it is not used/handled correctly, same as a saw or a car.  Put a loaded weapon, safeties engaged, put it on a table and leave it alone. It will not jump off the table and spontaneously start murdering people by itself.  Let a complete idiot pick it up and start playing with it and that's when the trouble starts.  By the way, honey, don't ever do that "leave the loaded weapon laying around where any shitforbrains asshole can grab it" thing. Very bad idea. 

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 05:35 AM (S2RnE)

55 There was a local kerfuffle on Friday when a kid brought an airsoft pistol to a middle school in Tempe, Ariz. They locked down the school. And of course, the headline of the article I saw used "BB gun," which proves that the lib media doesn't even understand the difference between kids toys, let alone the subtle differences between, say, an automatic machine gun and a Ruger 10-22 that's been pimped out. Was the kid stupid? Absolutely. Was the reaction as insane as you'd expect? Who the heck knows, I think we could eventually go full retard.

Posted by: jakeman at December 08, 2013 05:36 AM (vH4YP)

56 Baldy@50, this is all part of the Left's War on Men, or as Rush calls it, the "Wussification" of America.

Posted by: runningrn at December 08, 2013 05:36 AM (IPB8r)

57 Can the whole school administration be fired for imaginary edumacatin'?

Posted by: dogfish at December 08, 2013 05:36 AM (nsOJa)

58 I just sent a donation to the Rutherford organization. They have been going after this type of insanity on a steady basis. This is all part of the ongoing war against American culture. One thing remains the same, ten year old girls can be really obnoxious tattle tales.

Posted by: Museisluse at December 08, 2013 05:36 AM (HsXTx)

59 Imaginary gun of the week?  Crossbow.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 08, 2013 05:36 AM (jucos)

60 Good mornin rons. I'm getting the older little sailor a bow for Christmas. They want the yutes disarmed. They know we will eventually die off then they can play the long game and achieve their red diaper baby fantasies. This must be fought.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at December 08, 2013 05:37 AM (XIxXP)

61 Imaginary hope with real destructive change. Pretty much sums up Obama's 5 years in office.

Posted by: runningrn at December 08, 2013 05:38 AM (IPB8r)

62 56 Posted by: runningrn at December 08, 2013 09:36 AM (IPB8r) ---- The funny thing is, I was a wuss before all of this That said, the media plays these stories up, but like you said there is a bigger agenda here, which they ignore. Given it is govt sponsored, how is any of this legal? /preaching to the choir

Posted by: Baldy at December 08, 2013 05:39 AM (2bql3)

63 Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 09:35 AM (S2RnE)

Moby? Or just a troll?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 05:39 AM (LSDdO)

64 Imaginary hope with real destructive change. Pretty much sums up Obama's 5 years in office.

Posted by: runningrn at December 08, 2013 09:38 AM (IPB8r)

_________________

A solid B+

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 08, 2013 05:39 AM (jucos)

65 So Little Johnny is sitting on the street corner looking at the bubbles in a jar of turpentine he found in his uncle Clem's garage when Father O'Malley walks up and says: "Good morning, son, what do you have there?" Johnny: "Why, it's turpentine, Father; the Most Powerful Liquid in the World!" Father: "Oh, that's not right, Little Johnny. Holy Water is surely the Most Powerful Liquid in the World; if you put a drop of Holy Water on a pregnant woman's stomach she will pass a boy!" Little Johnny: "Shit, Father, that ain't nothin'. You put a drop of turpentine on a cat's asshole, it'll pass a watermelon!!!!!"

Posted by: Sharkman at December 08, 2013 05:39 AM (y5F8o)

66 hey, your royal majesty obama, thanks for the imaginary load u shot down my throat. oh wait, i wasn't dreaming! yummy.

Posted by: crissy-boi at December 08, 2013 05:40 AM (IeLwj)

67 My experience with the "Zero Tolerance Policy" of my local school district was that it allowed the school administrators preen and posture on how they were tough on student misbehavior when a student with no history of misbehavior committed an inadvertent violation while ignoring the real bad actors. I remember our School Resource Officer complaining how the High School principal suspended a student who forgot he had a pocket knife in his pocket and had voluntarily turned it in to the SRO (the SRO said this was a good kid). This same principal ignored the misunderstood minority yoots flaunting their gang colors and their disruptions in class.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at December 08, 2013 05:40 AM (2Jy1U)

68 45 Moxie at December 08, 2013 09:32 AM (Gtr0B)

Like my wife's Taurus Thunderbolt?

or this henry in .22 Magnum?

http://tinyurl.com/ppd5fbm

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 05:41 AM (9jfyN)

69 Moby? Or just a troll?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 09:39 AM (LSDdO)

 

 

 

 

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Wait.. What?  Who are you talking about?

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 05:41 AM (S2RnE)

70 Wow, I actually paid attention to the details of the kid with the pencil.

Fawn Grove Pa is the home of Thunderstick Enterprises, one of my go-to gun shops.
I drive right past this school each time I go up there.
And is also the hometown of one of Mrs VIA's lifelong friends.
And Fawn Grove consists of one intersection, and a Rutter's gas station.

Pretty much, that's it.
Except for a rather large number of farms, forests, woods, and people who take off school and work for the first day of hunting season.....with guns.

I don't think this will go well for the school officials.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 05:42 AM (ElylP)

71 Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 09:35 AM (S2RnE) Ask her to think about this; if guns kill people, then why aren't there mass shootings at gun shows?

Posted by: ExSnipe at December 08, 2013 05:44 AM (57ubW)

72 Well, my Spikes Tactical midlength upper arrived. Looks great, perfect match to my SW MP15 lower. No rattle. A steal at $400.

The midlength is the way to go, IMO. Better gas, more forearm to get your supporting arm out to, and it can take a bayonet. Yes, I know, bayonets are pointless (hardy-har-har), but I wouldn't have an AR15 if I didn't have a little Walter Mitty in me. I don't NEED to fix a bayonet, but goddammit if I don't love knowing I CAN.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 05:45 AM (celt+)

73 It's no accident that Hollywood and pop culture promote the hipster douche, completely emasculated, latte sipping beta male way of life. It's easier for the government to control a compliant populace, and those testosterone filled, free thinking males make that harder to do. It all starts with changing the cultural norms. It's ok for men to be the nurturer/care givers while their wives are going to work as empowered CEO's and such. Guns are dangerous and bad, so little boys should be discouraged from even thinking about them in a positive, powerful manner. Therefore we must punish kids for even thinking about guns. It's all so insidious, it even goes to fashion. Nothing is more emasculating than skinny jeans for men. And while we're at it, how about eyeliner and make-up for men? Conservatives are in the fight for our lives in today's present culture war.

Posted by: runningrn at December 08, 2013 05:47 AM (IPB8r)

74 >>> inserting himself into everything. Over/under on him hogging Mandela's funeral somehow? Count on it,

Posted by: fluffy the elf at December 08, 2013 05:47 AM (Ua6T/)

75 This is that CDR bunch from Michael Totten's Havana article; those neighborhood spies who turn you in to the government for a handful of beans. The ones who ruin a boy's life just to score another handful of beans, and terrorize the neighborhood.

Posted by: Shoulda got up earlier at December 08, 2013 05:47 AM (nE/1A)

76 Just wait till they get a load of me.

Posted by: Katniss Everdeen at December 08, 2013 05:47 AM (+Hy1Z)

77 Moby? Or just a troll?

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Looks like neither to me. Sure you didn't misread it?

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 05:48 AM (celt+)

78

If you want to stop this Zero Tolerance BS???  You have to make the idiots in charge feel the pain!  Hold the principal, superintendent and teachers involved responsible and cause them social, personal and professional pain.  That means making them miserable by getting all up in their faces.  Confronting them.  Being a prick and calling them an asshole to their retarded faces.

 

Until I hear of people like Principal Jihn Horton are mocked and shunned by the people in Pennsylvania, fired from his job, and financially hurt; crap like this will continue.  Hit the school in their pocket book, hit the "professional" "administrator" retards in their personal pocket book.  Mock and ridicule them, every teacher, janitor, board member, PTA leader, and even the school crossingguards until they relent. 

 

These idiots have such fragile egos, that they will implode IF people mock them. 

Posted by: rd at December 08, 2013 05:48 AM (D+lxs)

79 What's next?    Kid minding his own business, walking  down the hall  to his next class...Principal walks up to said kid and  expels  him for packing an imaginary conceiled-carry weapon?

Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2013 05:50 AM (ToMJU)

80 Taro

Pretty much decided to put this on the new Stag lower for Mrs VIA to play with.

http://tinyurl.com/kq6o224

I just need to see if I can swap out the foregrip with a set of Diamondhead Drop in's like the Stag Model 3 comes with.
She likes the feel of them, and I would like her to be able to go back and forth from one to the other.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 05:51 AM (ElylP)

81 Conservatives American's are in the fight for our lives in today's present culture war.
Posted by: runningrn at December 08, 2013 09:47 AM (IPB8r)

And if we lose, the Country will be radical transformed and then attacked and overrun.

Then where will you liberals get your free stuff? Who will you whine to about how racist and sexist the country is?

You'll be among the first to be lined up and shot. (well probably not because they will immediately start fellatting our conquerors.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 05:51 AM (LSDdO)

82 @68 actually, I was thinking it was a Krieghoff Semprio. I'd love to have a Henry 22mag...

Posted by: Moxie at December 08, 2013 05:51 AM (Gtr0B)

83 I just realized James Patterson needs to be served a real warrant for all the imaginary people he's killed. Plus he's a terrible writer.

Posted by: Gem at December 08, 2013 05:52 AM (zw+pb)

84 Doing his duty: Man shot trying to retreat from armed robber in Columbus http://tinyurl.com/myfncte

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 05:53 AM (zpNwC)

85 Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 09:48 AM (celt+)

read it again with a jaundiced eye.

would YOU phrase such a story (even a made up one) like that?

There's a cognitive dissonance there that just smacked of someone trying to sock what they think a conservative would sound like. And failing

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 05:53 AM (LSDdO)

86 The purpose of zero tolerance is to eliminate the possibility of common sense.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 08, 2013 05:53 AM (E+uky)

87 People move over the border from MD to avoid high taxes, onerous land use laws etc, then the area of PA they move to turns into MD.Kinda like Monroe County turning into NJ.

Posted by: forest at December 08, 2013 05:54 AM (stMuz)

88 69 year-old Columbus man shoots home intruders http://tinyurl.com/mqg3737

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 05:54 AM (zpNwC)

89 23 @ 22 I just use, "Pew, Pew, Pew!" And I never run out. Posted by: flounder at December 08, 2013 09:19 AM (Kkt/i) Our seven-year-old grandson visited us this summer, and he and I cut out and assembled paper airplanes designed like fighters in the Star Wars flics for entertainment. Once, I was "flying" one of them and "shooting" using, "Pew-pew! Pew-pew-pew!". The kid looked at me and asked, "Is that all you got?" I LoLed...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at December 08, 2013 05:54 AM (Bj/RA)

90 if guns kill people, then why aren't there mass shootings at gun shows?

IIRC, after Aurora or Newtown or similar atrocity deliberately perpetrated by a mentally ill guy, the Indianapolis MFM was screaming about "gun show accidental shootings" like they were a bigger threat to humanity than the 0.2 inches of snow that's going to kill us all this afternoon (this is the face I am making http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4810920_700b.jpg). 

One idiot who doesn't check to see if a rifle is loaded (OK, two idiots; the owner should have informed the first idiot) apparently invalidates the whole 2A for everyone, but millions of people fraudulently collecting SSDI is just something you have to accept because of all the good it does.  *spit*

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 05:55 AM (hO8IJ)

91 80 - Yep, I definitely see a 22LR upper in my future.

Just an FYI, looks like Natchez Shooters Supply has it (or something very similar) in stock for $345.99:

http://tinyurl.com/kvlpfem


Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 05:57 AM (celt+)

92 And Catching Fire needs to be pulled from theaters right now so as not to infect innocent children with its lethal imaginary bow and arrow violence. "I want to be like Katniss!" = code for "I want to kill all of my schoolmates!"

Posted by: Gem at December 08, 2013 05:57 AM (zw+pb)

93 I love little Johnny jokes. Seriously, will "educators" ever learn common sense? When will the innocent play things and little love pecks be considered for what they are?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2013 05:58 AM (HVff2)

94 There's a cognitive dissonance there that just smacked of someone trying to sock what they think a conservative would sound like. And failing

Go have some more coffee.  Madamemayhem is a Moronette in good standing.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 05:58 AM (hO8IJ)

95 House Votes To Extend Undetectable Firearms Act Of 1988 http://tinyurl.com/la8kkbq

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 05:58 AM (zpNwC)

96 Posted by: forest at December 08, 2013 09:54 AM (stMuz)

Yeah but that area was infected by Philly decades ago.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 05:58 AM (LSDdO)

97 >>> There's a cognitive dissonance there that just smacked of someone trying to sock what they think a conservative would sound like. And failing Not seeing it. madamemayhem didn't just wander in, either.

Posted by: fluffy at December 08, 2013 05:59 AM (Ua6T/)

98 would YOU phrase such a story (even a made up one) like that?

There's a cognitive dissonance there that just smacked of someone trying to sock what they think a conservative would sound like. And failing

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 09:53 AM (LSDdO)

 

 

 

 

 

*******

 

 

 

 

 

Excuse me!  I'm sorry if my Phraseology does not meet your exacting standards.  I write the way I speak.  I am not a troll nor am I a moby (whatever the fuck that may be)  I was simply relating a little story about my daughter.  It happens to be true, dickhead. 

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 05:59 AM (S2RnE)

99 Someone should suspend these teachers and administrators for their imaginary degrees. I mean, really - a Masters in Education?

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 05:59 AM (celt+)

100 NSSF's Lawsuit Against Connecticut's SB 1160 Dismissed http://tinyurl.com/ll5unrl

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 05:59 AM (zpNwC)

101

69 year-old Columbus man shoots home intruders

http://tinyurl.com/mqg3737

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 09:54 AM (zpNwC)

 

Nothing like a feel good story to start off a Sunday.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:00 AM (DrWcr)

102 Like the statistics show. Take out Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta , Memphis, Philly and El Lay and the US is the safest countries in the world

Posted by: 7 Days in May at December 08, 2013 06:00 AM (j6DTo)

103 Bitter Clinger, one of the rules of Mobeying or trolling is that you have to undermine your opponent's positions. Laying out a reasonable, common-sense scenario that's factually correct and logical isn't very undermining.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 06:03 AM (celt+)

104 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 09:58 AM (hO8IJ)

Okay. My bad. I apologize.

Still that last part kinda hit me the wrong way (as in being forced).

(Put a loaded weapon, safeties engaged, put it on a table and leave it alone. It will not jump off the table and spontaneously start murdering people by itself. Let a complete idiot pick it up and start playing with it and that's when the trouble starts. By the way, honey, don't ever do that "leave the loaded weapon laying around where any shitforbrains asshole can grab it" thing. Very bad idea.)

I definitely would've phrase that a lot differently when speaking to a child. (if the story's true)

I'll have to recalibrate my BS Meter I guess.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 06:03 AM (LSDdO)

105 Go figure, The Majority of Gun crimes are in heavy populated Black and Hispanic hoods. There you are,now were naked truth.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at December 08, 2013 06:03 AM (j6DTo)

106 102 Like the statistics show.
Take out Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta , Memphis, Philly and El Lay and the US is the safest countries in the world

Posted by: 7 Days in May at December 08, 2013 10:00 AM (j6DTo)

 

 

 

Any common denominators there?

Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2013 06:03 AM (ToMJU)

107 Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 09:59 AM (S2RnE) A good moron in my eyes.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2013 06:04 AM (HVff2)

108 Operation Fast and Furious is back in the headlines with today’s excerpt of agent John Dodson’s potentially explosive new book “The Unarmed Truth,” about the gun running sting operation that put an estimated 2,000 guns into criminal circulation, all done with the knowledge of people in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. http://tinyurl.com/m8mv9tr

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:04 AM (zpNwC)

109 The purpose of zero tolerance is to eliminate the possibility of common sense.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 08, 2013 09:53 AM (E+uky)

___________________

^^^^THIS^^^^^

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 08, 2013 06:04 AM (jucos)

110 House Votes To Extend Undetectable Firearms Act Of 1988>>

Doesn't any firearm escape this law once they are detected?

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 06:06 AM (TI3xG)

111 Ban on Phoenix bus-stop gun ad is back in court http://tinyurl.com/kwebqpk

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:08 AM (zpNwC)

112 109 The purpose of zero tolerance is to eliminate the possibility of common sense.
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 08, 2013 09:53 AM (E+uky)
___________________
^^^^THIS^^^^^

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 08, 2013 10:04 AM (jucos)

 

 

 

Agreed.   The educator class spends at least 12 yrs trying to eliminate common sense and logical thinking.  Now  business have to try to teach their employees common sense, ie Lean Six Sigma.

Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2013 06:08 AM (ToMJU)

113 So, are they going to cancel Valentine's Day? Lots of pretend arrows being shot at pretend people.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 08, 2013 06:08 AM (kkbgQ)

114
4 A rat. A big fuckin rat.

With a dick this fuckin long.


Finished it for you.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 08, 2013 06:09 AM (tOkJB)

115 "Just an FYI, looks like Natchez Shooters Supply has it (or something very similar) in stock for $345.99:"

That does appear to be the exact same upper.
Only the part number is different.
And when I search for it on the internet, it only turns up with Natchez, and no where else.
So I am assuming that it is their own reference number, and not CMMG's.

For that price, it's a good deal based on write up's and reviews from the various AR-15 forums.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 06:10 AM (ElylP)

116 NRO: How the Nazis Used Gun Control The Weimar RepublicÂ’s well-intentioned gun registry became a tool for evil. By Stephen P. Halbrook http://tinyurl.com/kz4zynw

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:10 AM (zpNwC)

117 Posted by: Ed Anger at December 08, 2013 10:09 AM (tOkJB) Thanks, man. That's how I remembered it, too.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2013 06:11 AM (V3kRK)

118 NRA: Massachusetts ‘Abusing’ Citizens Applicants for firearms licenses say state slow-walking approval http://tinyurl.com/kg8opsr

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:11 AM (zpNwC)

119 Little Johnny walks into his parents liquor cabinet with a bottle of water

Posted by: liquor cabinet joke guy at December 08, 2013 06:11 AM (l1W3I)

120 So, are they going to cancel Valentine's Day?

They've already canceled the candy hearts and cupcakes.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 06:12 AM (hO8IJ)

121 Latest Orlando MAIG public records are in. http://tinyurl.com/k9xfez8

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:13 AM (zpNwC)

122 87 People move over the border from MD to avoid high taxes, onerous land use laws etc, then the area of PA they move to turns into MD.Kinda like Monroe County turning into NJ.
Posted by: forest

Same thing happening on Georgia's coast. It's cheaper and nicer to live here than the big cities.... lookin' atchoo, Hot-lanta.
But transplants bring the same damn-fool ideas with them that wrecked their cities.
"For da Chillunz!"
An example? Multimillion dollar "bike paths." That nobody uses- they ride on the roads and disrupt traffic.

Posted by: backhoe at December 08, 2013 06:13 AM (ULH4o)

123 So, are they going to cancel Valentine's Day? Lots of pretend arrows being shot at pretend people.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 08, 2013 10:08 AM (kkbgQ)

 

I'd be perfectly happy if they canceled Valentine's Day, but not because of pretend arrows.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:13 AM (DrWcr)

124 Congressional Study: Murder Rate Nearly Halved from 1994 as Gun Ownership Soared http://tinyurl.com/kwbdoe2

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:14 AM (zpNwC)

125 Polling Shows Less Support from Urban Areas for Gun Control? http://tinyurl.com/kzrh7vs

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:15 AM (zpNwC)

126 Madamemayhem is a Moronette in good standing.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 09:58 AM (hO8IJ)

 

****

 

 

Seconded

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 06:17 AM (N/Sup)

127 http://tinyurl.com/mrl5n3f smarties candy a gateway drug?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at December 08, 2013 06:17 AM (u8GsB)

128 124 Congressional Study: Murder Rate Nearly Halved from 1994 as Gun Ownership Soared http://tinyurl.com/kwbdoe2 Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 10:14 AM (zpNwC) C'mon don't bore us with the truth. It doesn't help the lefts agenda

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2013 06:17 AM (HVff2)

129 120 So, are they going to cancel Valentine's Day?

They've already canceled the candy hearts and cupcakes.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 10:12 AM (hO8IJ)

 

 

 

But they are bringing in little Heather's two horny mommies to  speak about how wonderful  it is to be open   to   and act on  the sexual desires you didn't even know you had.

Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2013 06:18 AM (ToMJU)

130

Completely off topic....... but

Is it wrong to put m and m's on a peanut butter sandwich? 

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 06:18 AM (S2RnE)

131 NY District Attorney indicts a homeless man because the NYPD canÂ’t shoot straight. http://tinyurl.com/m6wmkzs

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:18 AM (zpNwC)

132

NRO: How the Nazis Used Gun Control
The Weimar RepublicÂ’s well-intentioned gun registry became a tool for evil.

 

Isn't that always the way?  IIRC, the gun registry was used as a tool for confiscation in Australia and England.  It never ends well.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:19 AM (DrWcr)

133

A black mark on his permanent record?

 

It is to laugh.  Loudly.  Mockingly.  More  like a badge of honor  in this case.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 08, 2013 06:19 AM (BAS5M)

134 130 Completely off topic....... but Is it wrong to put m and m's on a peanut butter sandwich? Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 10:18 AM (S2RnE) O Hell No, make a sammich please

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2013 06:20 AM (HVff2)

135 Thanks HR and Seamus!  I'm not real sure how I got tagged a troll and I have no fucking clue what a moby is supposed to be.  Can y'all throw me a definition for that?

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 06:20 AM (S2RnE)

136 Multiple Gun Control PACs, Same Backer http://tinyurl.com/maun6xp

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:20 AM (zpNwC)

137 Is the victim okay?

Posted by: John Kidle at December 08, 2013 06:20 AM (IYBOj)

138 Completely off topic....... but
Is it wrong to put m and m's on a peanut butter sandwich?

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 10:18 AM (S2RnE)

 

I'd prefer semi-sweet chocolate chips, but hey, go for it.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:20 AM (DrWcr)

139 Is it wrong to put m and m's on a peanut butter sandwich?>>

If by wrong you mean awesome Yes.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 06:20 AM (TI3xG)

140 In the meantime, the police department in my former hometown of about 40,000 people got themselves an MRAP and they plan to use it early and often.  No doubt that will be useful when pulling up on family disputes involving alcohol and meth and iron bars wielded as weapons.  I think they should have held out for a tank.

Posted by: huerfano at December 08, 2013 06:21 AM (bAGA/)

141 Completely off topic....... but Is it wrong to put m and m's on a peanut butter sandwich? He'll no! But try chocolate chips instead. The semi sweet kind. Mmmmm!

Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 08, 2013 06:21 AM (KArqF)

142 In the meantime, the police department in my former hometown of about 40,000 people got themselves an MRAP and they plan to use it early and often. No doubt that will be useful when pulling up on family disputes involving alcohol and meth and iron bars wielded as weapons. I think they should have held out for a tank.

Posted by: huerfano at December 08, 2013 10:21 AM (bAGA/)

 

Great. The militarization of the police continues apace.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:21 AM (DrWcr)

143 I'm saving the semi-sweet chips for chocolate fudge.  But that does sound good.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 06:22 AM (S2RnE)

144 Valentine's day is gay.

Posted by: Freaked at December 08, 2013 06:24 AM (PS2gA)

145

Is it wrong to put m and m's on a peanut butter sandwich?

 

No. Broccoli, lima beans, spinach - they are wrong toppings for a PB sammich. 

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 08, 2013 06:24 AM (BAS5M)

146

Is it wrong to put m and m's on a peanut butter sandwich?>>

 

*****

 

I've often imagined what that would taste like.   How about Reese's Pieces?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 06:24 AM (N/Sup)

147 I'm saving the semi-sweet chips for chocolate fudge. But that does sound good.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 10:22 AM (S2RnE)

 

Mmmm....chocolate fudge....

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:24 AM (DrWcr)

148 Completely off topic....... but
Is it wrong to put m and m's on a peanut butter sandwich?

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 10:18 AM (S2RnE)

 

 

 

DO NOT mix the green ones with peanut butter.  JUST DON'T DO IT.

Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2013 06:24 AM (ToMJU)

149 Peanut Butter Sandwiches are racist.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 08, 2013 06:25 AM (jucos)

150 Reason: The Three Most Important Ongoing Second Amendment Cases http://tinyurl.com/lul2szs

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:25 AM (zpNwC)

151 A moby is a plant.  Someone who seems to share views with you but keeps staking out positions far far far more extreme.  They want to cast a very bad light on the web-site they are posting at.  Because after they post their extreme bat-sh*t crazy comments they will run to their liberal-progressive socialist enablers to tell them how mean, vicious, phobic, and knuckle-dragging the site and its commentators are.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:25 AM (5oAy6)

152 Taro, you shoot that CZ yet?

Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at December 08, 2013 06:26 AM (Tjkt6)

153 As we all chuckle about a "Permanent Record" consider for a moment the impact of Common Core.
There will be a permanent record, and it will follow the student for the rest of his/her life.


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 06:26 AM (ElylP)

154 > Is it wrong to put m and m's on a peanut butter sandwich? Much weirder: green olives.

Posted by: Moxie at December 08, 2013 06:26 AM (Gtr0B)

155 Is it wrong to put m and m's on a peanut butter sandwich?

Much weirder: green olives.

Posted by: Moxie at December 08, 2013 10:26 AM (Gtr0B)

 

Now that's just plain disgusting.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:27 AM (DrWcr)

156 PBnJ's with sliced bananas, pickles, a little honey, on toasted dark pumpernickle, without the jelly. It's for the diversity and taste, but mostly the taste.

Posted by: ExSnipe at December 08, 2013 06:28 AM (57ubW)

157

Madame M- from the Urban Dictionary:

Moby-

An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question.

The term is derived from the name of the liberal musician Moby, who famously suggested in February of 2004 that left-wing activists engage in this type of subterfuge: “For example, you can go on all the pro-life chat rooms and say you’re an outraged right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an abortion.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 06:28 AM (N/Sup)

158 So is mr, moo moo a moby or just a stuck up elitist asshole?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2013 06:28 AM (HVff2)

159

Thanks Anna! 

I've been around here awhile now but that is one of those things I just didn't catch. 

Obviously this means I need to spend more time at the HQ!

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 06:28 AM (S2RnE)

160 My son was suspended for bringing a slingshot to school.  They suspended him but brought him back after a half day because it was star testing week and they needed him to raise the average scores.

Posted by: stirfry_laura at December 08, 2013 06:29 AM (LfuzY)

161 158 BOTH

Posted by: Freaked at December 08, 2013 06:30 AM (PS2gA)

162 http://tinyurl.com/kg87u6t

Posted by: TiminAL at December 08, 2013 06:30 AM (A9c4d)

163 I think if you are going to put M&Ms on a peanut butter sandwich you should hand place them one-by-one and spell out pithy messages, just to make the experience more profound.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 06:30 AM (N/Sup)

164 Tank Police?

That darn Leona and her toy tank!
http://youtu.be/mRzqjOyeSNc

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:31 AM (5oAy6)

165 You can spell out "Eat Me!"

Posted by: Freaked at December 08, 2013 06:32 AM (PS2gA)

166

@165-

 

Indeed

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 06:32 AM (N/Sup)

167 110 House Votes To Extend Undetectable Firearms Act Of 1988>> Doesn't any firearm escape this law once they are detected? Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 10:06 AM (TI3xG) It's just a name, like "Jobs Bill" or "Affordable Care Act"

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:33 AM (zpNwC)

168

I put dill pickles on peanut butter sandwiches all the time..... even caused hubbymayhem to try it, but I really want chocolate on my peanut butter.

Dammit, I am gonna have to make fudge today. Chocolate fudge and peanut butter fudge.

OOH and applesauce spice cake too.  And maybe some cookies. 

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 06:33 AM (S2RnE)

169 165 You can spell out "Eat Me!" & if you like to live dangerously, "eat me bitch!"

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2013 06:33 AM (HVff2)

170 Wow. Lots of comments. This some kind of open thread or what? Mrs Candycanes says, the boy was responding to another student, who had pointed a folder (?) at him and said "Bang," but no word what happened to him. Folders have safeties, of course. Imaginary bows, not.

Posted by: Clove Candycanes, the mindful webworker at December 08, 2013 06:33 AM (74tYA)

171 Hey, Teresa of Ávila had a great time with imaginary arrows!

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at December 08, 2013 06:34 AM (lILC0)

172 168 I put dill pickles on peanut butter sandwiches all the time..... even caused hubbymayhem to try it, but I really want chocolate on my peanut butter. Dammit, I am gonna have to make fudge today. Chocolate fudge and peanut butter fudge. OOH and applesauce spice cake too. And maybe some cookies. Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 10:33 AM (S2RnE) Start sharing with the rest of the horde

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2013 06:34 AM (HVff2)

173 160 My son was suspended for bringing a slingshot to school. They suspended him but brought him back after a half day because it was star testing week and they needed him to raise the average scores. Posted by: stirfry_laura at December 08, 2013 10:29 AM (LfuzY) I think that sums up what their real priorities are right there.

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:35 AM (zpNwC)

174 We used to bring David/Goliath style slings to school and shot rocks into the woods during lunch break.  Nobody thought anything of it.  I got pretty accurate with one over the course of the year.

Today, I'd be hauled off in leg irons and manacles and sent to Gitmo.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 08, 2013 06:35 AM (UVadJ)

175 After staying up until midnight to try to reserve a campsite and yurt at a State park, as advised by Park Rangers, just to see the site lock me out and tell me try again at 10 AM, I finally just got my reservation. 2 of the top three sites I wanted were already gone, but I got the one I wanted originally. Now I can relax until June.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 08, 2013 06:36 AM (ZshNr)

176 158 BOTH

Posted by: Freaked at December 08, 2013 10:30 AM (PS2gA)

 

His extreme pro-abortion stance is hardly conservative.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:36 AM (DrWcr)

177 160 Now if he was wearing the slingshot...

Posted by: dirty harry reid at December 08, 2013 06:36 AM (PS2gA)

178 Watched Reilly, Ace of Spies. Saw it back in the 80s and it has with stood the test of time.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 08, 2013 06:37 AM (kkbgQ)

179 The non-sacred bovine is also a floor wax.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:37 AM (5oAy6)

180 the boy was responding to another student, who had pointed a folder (?) at him and said "Bang," but no word what happened to him.

Folders have safeties, of course. Imaginary bows, not.

Posted by: Clove Candycanes, the mindful webworker at December 08, 2013 10:33 AM (74tYA)

 

*****

 

So, I imagine that Castle Doctrine would apply, since the workplace (or in this case the school) is an extension of the archery boy's home and he was acting in self defense. 

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 06:37 AM (N/Sup)

181 @39, Bitter Clinger, Ah the imaginary Knee tune up. I try to avoid those. Night all, I have an early day tomorrow. You kids play nice.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at December 08, 2013 06:37 AM (nWBvT)

182 So if the victim of the imaginary arrow falls to the ground in pretend agony and pretends to die, does little Johnny get life without parole or the gallows?

Posted by: Derak at December 08, 2013 06:37 AM (xEkHi)

183 Since I am not allowed to play with my imaginary flame throwing assault shotgun, I might as well bake something yummy.  Right?

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 06:37 AM (S2RnE)

184  flame throwing assault shotgun

Dragon's Breath rounds FTW!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:38 AM (DrWcr)

185 152 Taro, you shoot that CZ yet?

-----------------

Not yet. Pre-Christmas is for Christmas shopping and Christmas money overtime and Christmas cookie eating. Here in Maine, the period between New Years and April is a death march of cold misery, so I have to stretch the fun stuff out. We should have a new local range open just about now so I'll be checking it out for the first time after the holidays.

I did buy a couple sets of new grips, though. I hated the plastic ones. I picked up a rubber set that would have been perfect except they have two weird thumb rests that the plastics don't (couldn't see them in the photos.) Not a deal-breaker, but they'd have been perfect without them. Also grabbed a set of Hogue Pau Ferro after I got a set for my Hi-Power and was blown away by the looks and feel. Can't say the Pau Ferros look as stunning with the flat finish on the CZ, though. Still pretty. Nice slim grip, too.

I have a hard time with grips. All of my autos have multiple sets as I try to find the ones I like best.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 06:39 AM (celt+)

186 M & M's should be on the top of the list to send in a care package to troops serving in theater. One of the few products that performs as advertised ( Melts in your mouth, not in your hand, or utility pocket, or flak jacket). Mom and Dad included them in a pack contrived out of one of those old potato chip cans (about 1.5 gallon size).

Posted by: Bill at December 08, 2013 06:39 AM (uvyrw)

187 Well you could use the flame thrower to make the cookies a bit extra crispy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:39 AM (5oAy6)

188
Mrs Candycanes says, the boy was responding to another student, who had pointed a folder (?) at him and said "Bang," but no word what happened to him.

Folders have safeties, of course. Imaginary bows, not.

Posted by: Clove Candycanes, the mindful webworker at December 08, 2013 10:33 AM (74tYA)

 

 

 

Rekon said folder shooter might have been a yute of undetermined race?  Was the folder held sideways while firing?

Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2013 06:39 AM (ToMJU)

189 Imaginary guns and bows and arrows?   It seems plausible given public schools provide imaginary education, the government is headed by an imaginary president who is of the imaginary Christian faith, and we follow imaginary laws these days.  Imaginary journalists in the imaginary media cover imagined stories (nothing is truthful of course, all fiction).  The world of leftist loonys, along with their imagined unicorns and rainbows, is the world of America.  

Posted by: Imaginary Commenter at December 08, 2013 06:40 AM (LkqST)

190 "10 Was it an imaginary Crossbow or an Imaginary Long Bow?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 08, 2013 09:10 AM (LSDdO)"



Crossbows are better.

Posted by: Darryl Dixon at December 08, 2013 06:40 AM (BcCwi)

191 This is my rifle This is my gun Can you guess which Is the imaginary one?

Posted by: Freaked at December 08, 2013 06:40 AM (PS2gA)

192 When I was in grade school, the big thing was pea shooters.  High-end tech included three-sided rulers and scopes made from tp tube sections and sewing thread.

Posted by: mrp at December 08, 2013 06:42 AM (HjPtV)

193 I'm starting to wonder if maybe he was playing air guitar rather than shooting a bow and arrow.   One of those lead guitar solos with the guitar at some weird angle.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 06:42 AM (N/Sup)

194 So, I imagine that Castle Doctrine would apply, since the workplace (or in this case the school) is an extension of the archery boy's home and he was acting in self defense. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 10:37 AM (N/Sup) I'm unaware of any state which extends the Castle Doctrine definition of one's home or residence to one's place of employment. Your business, which you own, yes, but not just someplace you work.

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:43 AM (zpNwC)

195 189 You forgot Imaginary money in your list.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 06:44 AM (TI3xG)

196 193 maybe he was playing an Imaginary Guns n Roses tune.

Posted by: Freaked at December 08, 2013 06:44 AM (PS2gA)

197 Your business, which you own, yes, but not just someplace you work.

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 10:43 AM (zpNwC)

 

****

 

Yeah, I thought of that distinction as I hit "Post".  I think you are correct.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 06:44 AM (N/Sup)

198 After all, I am an imaginary lawyer.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 06:44 AM (N/Sup)

199 So, I imagine that Castle Doctrine would apply, since the workplace (or in this case the school) is an extension of the archery boy's home and he was acting in self defense.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 10:37 AM (N/Sup)

I'm unaware of any state which extends the Castle Doctrine definition of one's home or residence to one's place of employment. Your business, which you own, yes, but not just someplace you work.

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 10:43 AM (zpNwC)

 

He was in his imaginary castle.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:44 AM (DrWcr)

200 170 Wow. Lots of comments. This some kind of open thread or what?

-------------------

I'm usually a thread-purity Nazi, especially with the sacred Gun Thread, but Andy's original post is kind of "open" this week, so it looks like Casual Sunday at the Gun Thread.

In that spirit, I heartily endorse the MandMs on the PB sandwich, but with the proviso that the MandMs be microwaved for about thirty seconds first to soften 'em up.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 06:45 AM (celt+)

201 When imaginary weapons are banned, only criminals will have imaginary weapons...

Posted by: --- at December 08, 2013 06:45 AM (MMC8r)

202 I'm starting to wonder if maybe he was playing air guitar rather than shooting a bow and arrow. One of those lead guitar solos with the guitar at some weird angle.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 10:42 AM (N/Sup)

 

That would get him trouble with the feds, what with the imaginary improperly imported rosewood and all.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:46 AM (DrWcr)

203 For those of you thinking of a .22 upper, I've been using the .22 insert in my Colt M4 6290 LEO version to great effect.  Just the special bolt/bolt carrier, and a magazine, and you're off to plinking in no time.  Can keep sights for .223 also.  If you use good ammo, it won't dirty up too bad, either.  I've not had a problem with FTF or FTE any more than a normal .22 LR.

I use a similar setup for my Glock 19.  Exchange upper, insert adapted mag, and your off.

Posted by: Mr Wolf at December 08, 2013 06:46 AM (Ss56U)

204 If a student can get punished for an imaginary weapon, can he get extra credit for imaginary homework?

Askin' for a friend.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 06:46 AM (ElylP)

205 So I suppose The Hunger Games will have to be banned from schools, if it hasn't been already.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 08, 2013 06:46 AM (ZshNr)

206 I'm unaware of any state which extends the Castle Doctrine definition of one's home or residence to one's place of employment. Your business, which you own, yes, but not just someplace you work.

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 10:43 AM (zpNwC)

 

***

 

Although, to expand some on that, states that are strong on self-defense do include language such as 'any place that you have a legal right to be while not engaged in illegal activity'  or something to that effect.  It may not be part of Castle Doctrine, but is part of legal self-defense.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 06:47 AM (N/Sup)

207 Speaking of guns I like to save burnt out incandescent light bulbs to use for targets. Those curly cue ones are no fun though.

Posted by: Freaked at December 08, 2013 06:47 AM (PS2gA)

208 I have a hard time with grips. All of my autos have multiple sets as I try to find the ones I like best.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto

You can buy pistol grip (or "scales")  blanks and sand them down until they fit like a glove.  A net search will pull up several vendors.

Posted by: mrp at December 08, 2013 06:47 AM (HjPtV)

209 I use a similar setup for my Glock 19. Exchange upper, insert adapted mag, and your off.


Vendor please.


Posted by: EC at December 08, 2013 06:48 AM (doBIb)

210 Crossbows are better than nothing. FIFY.

Posted by: Moxie at December 08, 2013 06:48 AM (Gtr0B)

211 It's snowing in Baltimore.
And not the imaginary kind.
It's for realzies.

Just started, and the streets are covered.
Good thing we didn't go to church.
Might have gotten trapped there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 06:48 AM (ElylP)

212 First break the bulb then go for the base. Fun fun fun!

Posted by: Freaked at December 08, 2013 06:48 AM (PS2gA)

213 I guess when I was in school, I'd been busted for imaginary rape...at least once per day.

Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2013 06:49 AM (ToMJU)

214

I just said I needed to spend more time here and now I must go.. sad face here.  Gotta go check on papamayhem, and steal some of the massive pile of extra Christmas cards the man gets every year.  I get all my cards from the American Legion.  My dad gets them from the legion, the VFW, the AmVets, the VietVEts, the Disabled Vets and an Indian school.   I'm ten short for my list this year and he is being suffocated by piles of free Christmas cards. 

So I will bundle up my little one and venture out into the 10 fucking inches of snow we got on Friday to get some extra Christmas cards.  It's cold out there.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 06:50 AM (S2RnE)

215 "130
Completely off topic....... but
Is it wrong to put m and m's on a peanut butter sandwich?

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 10:18 AM (S2RnE)"



Since we are talking about food on the gun thread, I suppose it will be OK to talk about guns on a food thread.



My wife and I made some excellent chicken last night.  It starts off with  -  fry six pieces of bacon and then fry the chicken in the bacon grease.  Not just delicious but very moist, not dry at all.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at December 08, 2013 06:50 AM (BcCwi)

216 An AI doesn't have to kill humans to eliminate them as a threat. Just reduce their ability to BE a threat.

Either

by making the Human Race totally dependent on computers and

interactivity or rendering them incapable of stopping their continued

existence.

Until they could entirely make and power themselves, from sand on the beach to cpu cycle they're totally dependent on us.

Ha, leave without me and I'll cross-post.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 08, 2013 06:50 AM (DL2i+)

217 "For those of you thinking of a .22 upper, I've been using the .22 insert in my Colt M4 6290 LEO version to great effect. Just the special bolt/bolt carrier, and a magazine, and you're off to plinking in no time. Can keep sights for .223 also. If you use good ammo, it won't dirty up too bad, either. I've not had a problem with FTF or FTE any more than a normal .22 LR."

I have considered going that route as well.
But let me tell you.
That price that Taro just listed really makes my buying arm twitch.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 06:50 AM (ElylP)

218 From now on kids should all plead "Dance Fight" when accused of finger-murdering someone.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 08, 2013 06:50 AM (ZshNr)

219 Speaking of the Hunger Games, how about that NERF crossbow?  How does that fit in the great debate?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:51 AM (5oAy6)

220 I have no problem with doing that to nail tax cheats.

You can't cheat an honest man.
Depriving Leviathan of every dollar you can get away with isn't just common sense it's a moral duty.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 08, 2013 06:51 AM (DL2i+)

221 elbow up megyn

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at December 08, 2013 06:51 AM (u8GsB)

222 EC- check signature for Advantage Arms link.  They have the best one out there.  Made in USA!

Posted by: Mr Wolf at December 08, 2013 06:51 AM (Ss56U)

223 Man, it's a good thing my kid is in a private school. At last year's class poetry reading one of his 4th grade classmates read a poem he wrote about the archery set his brother got him at Burning man.  Gee, maybe that's why my son's school is over 90% boys in the elementary level - they tolerate boys being boys and instead focus on making sure they're not left out (unlike the girl-centric public schools).

Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2013 06:53 AM (JRmiD)

224 219 VI=  but does that upper price include bolt/bolt carrier?  Or just upper?  Because if its just the upper, you have to add the bolt/carrier cost on top of it anyway...

Posted by: Mr Wolf at December 08, 2013 06:53 AM (Ss56U)

225
Okay -- question for you "experts":

Many years ago I fired a bunch of ammo with corrosive primers through my Colt Officers Model. By the time I cleaned it the next day the barrel was pitted.

So I bought a new barrel, planning on installing it myself.

A while back I was reading about re-barreling the Officers Model and there were some differences in the tolerances of the toggle links and pins. Which gave me the idea that replacing the barrel myself probably wasn't a good one.

So I guess I should take everything to a gun doctor.

The problem is that since the Officers Model was discontinued so long ago getting a different sized toggle link/pin combination is probably impossible. IIRC the tolerances I was reading about were in the thousandths, but were important for the action to return reliably to battery.

So...

If I go to a gunsmith will he charge me the cost of the pistol to replace the barrel? Is there a good chance I can just pop the pin out myself, replace the barrel and press the pin back in and still have a functioning pistol? Are most gunsmiths honest enough to do what is really needed? Should I take it to a couple of gunsmiths for an honest opinion?

Most gun owners I know have never gone to a gunsmith and I don't trust most of the gun store owners in my area. How do I find a reputable gunsmith?

There is a tiny outfit that builds custom rifles not far away. Should I ask them for advice?

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 08, 2013 06:55 AM (tOkJB)

226 Although, to expand some on that, states that are strong on self-defense do include language such as 'any place that you have a legal right to be while not engaged in illegal activity' or something to that effect. It may not be part of Castle Doctrine, but is part of legal self-defense.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 10:47 AM (N/Sup)

 

Those are the premise of stand-your-ground-laws.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:55 AM (DrWcr)

227 EC- check signature for Advantage Arms link. They have the best one out there. Made in USA!

Posted by: Mr Wolf at December 08, 2013 10:51 AM (Ss56U)



"You sending the Wolf????"


"Oh, you feel better already?"


"Shiiiiiiiiit negro.   That's all you had to say!"




Posted by: EC at December 08, 2013 06:56 AM (doBIb)

228 Dunno about you, but here in da Valley I'm enjoying the nice 75i degree weather outside.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 08, 2013 06:56 AM (4hRH3)

229 >>When imaginary weapons are banned, only criminals will have imaginary weapons...

Or...only criminals will have an imagination.

This really is punishment for a thought-crime. It's pretty clear that the agenda is to make any thought of a gun or weapon is punished to the extreme - thus brain-washing this generation into thinking they don't need the 2nd Amendment.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2013 06:56 AM (JRmiD)

230 " VI= but does that upper price include bolt/bolt carrier? Or just upper? Because if its just the upper, you have to add the bolt/carrier cost on top of it anyway..."

Includes phosphated bolt.

I have seen some other offerings that do not include them.
That is another reason why this is such a good price in my opinion.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 06:56 AM (ElylP)

231 206 Although, to expand some on that, states that are strong on self-defense do include language such as 'any place that you have a legal right to be while not engaged in illegal activity' or something to that effect. It may not be part of Castle Doctrine, but is part of legal self-defense. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 08, 2013 10:47 AM (N/Sup) Yep, expanded Castle Doctrine aka Stand Your Ground aka Make My Day aka No Duty to Retreat is present in many states and Ohio is working one becoming one of them.

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:56 AM (zpNwC)

232 Speaking of the Hunger Games, how about that NERF crossbow? How does that fit in the great debate?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 10:51 AM (5oAy6)

 

I think it fits in as pure awesome.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:57 AM (DrWcr)

233 199 He was in his imaginary castle. Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 10:44 AM (DrWcr) Thread winner, IMHO.

Posted by: BornLib at December 08, 2013 06:58 AM (zpNwC)

234 "I have considered going that route as well.
But let me tell you.
That price that Taro just listed really makes my buying arm twitch."

-----------------------

I've heard that the conversion kits can dirty things up pretty bad. And I'm not just saying that because I want you to buy that CMMG upper and give me a full report.

I mean, no pressure or anything. I just think you'd be a fool not to buy it. And then shoot it. And then tell me exactly how good/bad it is.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 06:58 AM (celt+)

235 A dancing food fight from Weird Al
http://youtu.be/ZcJjMnHoIBI

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:58 AM (5oAy6)

236 Is it wrong to put m and m's on a peanut butter sandwich?

No taunting the fat man.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 08, 2013 07:00 AM (DL2i+)

237 "I mean, no pressure or anything. I just think you'd be a fool not to buy it. And then shoot it. And then tell me exactly how good/bad it is.

Just sayin'."


*Twitch...blink blink  Twitch*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 07:00 AM (ElylP)

238 He should have told them he was pretending to do so as he wanted to be a girl like Katniss. They would have gone into brainlock.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at December 08, 2013 07:02 AM (KvKOu)

239 It would certainly be more honest if our Federal Reserve currency were denoted in complex numbers. To keep it Pythagorean, we could get a $4 bill (with Yellen's lovely face on it) - it'd worth 2 + 3i.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 08, 2013 07:04 AM (4hRH3)

240 "210 Crossbows are better than nothing.

FIFY.

Posted by: Moxie at December 08, 2013 10:48 AM (Gtr0B)"



Crossbows are deadly.

Posted by: Richard the Lionheart at December 08, 2013 07:05 AM (BcCwi)

241 Hmmm... Natchez also shows this one in stock, for $439.99:

http://tinyurl.com/mp6zfzc

I can't see the difference. Methinks more research needed...

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 07:06 AM (celt+)

242 I shot an arrow Into the air, It fell to earth In my fucking permanent record and that's why I'm stuck in this POS community college...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 08, 2013 07:06 AM (ndK2b)

243 What if my imaginary friend has an imaginary CCW?

Posted by: --- at December 08, 2013 07:08 AM (MMC8r)

244 Taro.

I am beginning to think that the lower priced one does not come with the bolt after all.
It's pictured, but not referenced in writing.

The second one does not picture the bolt, but references it in writing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 07:10 AM (ElylP)

245 I saw Three Imaginary Boys open for the Cure back in '78. Okay, to be honest, I was too late for that part of it. Or maybe I misread the flyer

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 08, 2013 07:10 AM (4hRH3)

246 Which is more destructive, an imaginary bow and arrow or an imaginary trillion dollar coin? 

Posted by: no good deed at December 08, 2013 07:11 AM (HsJeN)

247
BTW -- my Officers Model is like a baby M-1911 regarding the barrel toggle link configuration.

So anybody who knows all about the M-1911 could probably help me with the question I posted above (#226).

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 08, 2013 07:12 AM (tOkJB)

248 245 Taro.

I am beginning to think that the lower priced one does not come with the bolt after all.
It's pictured, but not referenced in writing.

The second one does not picture the bolt, but references it in writing.

------------------

That's Natchez - excellent prices, Obamacare-level website.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 07:15 AM (celt+)

249 So is shooting an imaginary bow and arrow at someone worse than pressing your hands against your temples and scowling at someone while you try to make their head explode with your mind?  What if you succeed? 

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at December 08, 2013 07:15 AM (BcCwi)

250 We need the House to extend the undetectable bow ban.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 08, 2013 07:18 AM (WoH6u)

251 @250 Only my movie "Crash" is tolerated by liberals for its group-think reinforcing stereotypes on Racism. My other "art" is not appreciated by the intelligentsia

Posted by: Director David Cronnenberg at December 08, 2013 07:19 AM (KCvsd)

252 Would imaginary firearms be considered undetectable?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 07:20 AM (ElylP)

253 We need the House to extend the undetectable bow ban.

Yeah... that's the ticket...

Posted by: the Capitol Police, solvin' the single-mom problem too at December 08, 2013 07:21 AM (4hRH3)

254 Ed, if all else fails, you can send your Officer's Model to Colt and have them take a look at it.  I'd suggest you give them a call first and and discuss the problem.

LINK:  http://preview.tinyurl.com/k8htkrr

Posted by: mrp at December 08, 2013 07:30 AM (HjPtV)

255 Taro, do you at least take it out and fondle it daily?

Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at December 08, 2013 07:31 AM (Tjkt6)

256 I don't know what they were talking about and I'm sorry Kelly is coming down with a cold, but let's face it. Megan Kelly with a smokey voice is pretty damn hot.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 08, 2013 07:33 AM (IV4od)

257 Oh, and no offense guys...but why are you lookiing at uppers for that price when you can have a complete S&W M&P 15-22 for...less? http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/61690

Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at December 08, 2013 07:33 AM (Tjkt6)

258 "Oh, and no offense guys...but why are you lookiing at uppers for that price when you can have a complete S&W M&P 15-22 for...less?"

I actually held one of those....
in Fawn Grove Pa about two weeks ago.

Is it nice?
Yes.

But for some reason, it just didn't feel right to me..

I would consider it not as ruled out, but as Option "B"

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 07:39 AM (ElylP)

259 256 Taro, do you at least take it out and fondle it daily? Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE

------------

OK, this particular gun thread has been a little too off-topic this week to safely accomodate your lack of pronoun antecedent.

I assume you refer to the CZ-75, and yes, it's had more than its fair share of silicone-cloth wipening.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 07:42 AM (celt+)

260 258 Oh, and no offense guys...but why are you lookiing at uppers for that price when you can have a complete S&W M&P 15-22 for...less?

http://www.budsgunshop.com

-----------------

My brother-in-law has one. Didn't like the feel. Plus my lower is already set up with my preferred gee-gaws.

BTW, Bud's Gun Shop blows chunks.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 07:44 AM (celt+)

261 32 Pew, pew, pew is 9 mm Pow, Pow, Pow is .45 BOOM BOOM BOOM is my 10mm

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2013 07:45 AM (0FSuD)

262 I don't own one, never even held one TBH, but all the local guys at my competitions and local gun forums swear by their M&P 15-22s. Thinking about picking one up myself, after the other 9,782 things I "need" make their way home to me. And also, "extra upper"...yeah, that never works, you know that, right? You will eventually end up with another lower, anyway, so might as well just get a complete factory firearm. I said it here first. =) As for your grips on the CZ...yeah, grips are a very personal thing. I've been happy with the slim checkered aluminum ones from Angus at czcustom. Had them for years, no idea if they are even available anymore, lol. As for Buds...I don't use them for anything but price checks, but they do have several CZs in-stock that are not easy to come by at the brick-and-mortars, and are sitting in my cart on bud's. (I guess by Obamacare rules, I already own those guns, right?)...but what beef you have with Bud's?

Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at December 08, 2013 07:58 AM (Tjkt6)

263 "but what beef you have with Bud's?"

----------------

Just heard generally negative things on various boards. They seem to have a rep. They've got a 3.17 out of 10 at resellerratings.com on 538 reviews, FWIW.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 08:06 AM (celt+)

264 I don't own one, never even held one TBH, but all the local guys at my competitions and local gun forums swear by their M&P 15-22s. I know several guy with them and they say the same

Posted by: Quark at December 08, 2013 08:17 AM (aBQSE)

265

135 What you have to realize is that there's a significant contingent of losers on this site so bereft of ideas to discuss that they obsess over being the first to identify to their hive-friends who the latest "moby" or "troll" is.

Per House of Erasthenes:

A reverberation of middle school.

"Some “wrong person” says something with visibility, be it a wrong-individual or someone from the-wrong-group, someone that all the “cool kids” have decided is “on the outs.” This is, according to eighth-grade-taboo, not to be tolerated in any way because if you tolerate it you consent to it, and in so doing you may lose whatever social stature you’ve managed to accumulate for yourself. And so, sadly, the more of that social stature you have, the more likely you are to be blinded to what happens next. Lots of energy and time spent on nonsense. Witch hunt, drumhead trial, bullying, call it what you will. All these cool-kids who insist that the not-cool-kid is irrelevant and we shouldn’t “waste any time” listening to what he or she has to say, invest copious quantities of time reminding everyone else of this irrelevance. They’ll waste the uncool-kid’s time on this too, lots of it, and do far worse than that.

You know it’s nonsense — at best — because “this person is irrelevant” is the central message to it all, while the actions surrounding the message insist on the exact opposite. There’s something going on here that is relevant."

Posted by: DAve at December 08, 2013 08:18 AM (b7yum)

266 I remember from over 5 years ago, an imaginary state of Pennsylvania populated by an imaginary people who had big balls.  So sad.

Posted by: Fritz at December 08, 2013 08:23 AM (TKFmG)

267 Some day soon there will be a news story about a government school victim being suspended or expelled for THINKING ABOUT GUNS.


Posted by: Lee Reynolds at December 08, 2013 08:23 AM (0bC+U)

268 " Some day soon there will be a news story about a government school victim being suspended or expelled for THINKING ABOUT GUNS."


Sandy Hook meets Minority Report.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 08:26 AM (ElylP)

269 Remember I said I was at an Airsoft Scenario event earlier?

It's almost real guns.

Yeh.....photo's.

http://tinyurl.com/mn2j5tg

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2013 08:30 AM (ElylP)

270 Looking back now from my advanced age the lack of common sense in todays world , especially as it pertains to guns , is unbelievable . When I was in high school , early 70's, we actually had a rifle team . Rifles were stored at the school range . It was very well supported . Our coach was a retired SFC that was a former member of the Army Marksmanship Unit . Man , talk about world class coaching . In reality the 70's was not that long ago . We had hot and cold running water , air conditioning , even flush toilets but now it seems to have all been on another planet , long ago and very far away .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 08, 2013 08:43 AM (WK8VM)

271 Seems like a whole lot of people need their fucking asses kicked. This is beyond insane.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2013 08:49 AM (FMbng)

272 Beretta PX-4, in 40 or 45, thoughts?

Posted by: nip at December 08, 2013 08:59 AM (jI23+)

273 For those of you thinking of a .22 upper, I've been using the .22 insert in my Colt M4 6290 LEO version to great effect. I'm going that route one of these days because somebody gifted me a couple of bricks of the Aguila SSS 60gn. They tumble from my Marlin 39A, so I want to see if the faster twist in an AR would help. Mine are 1:9, and the 6920 is 1:7. Also picked up a Benjamin break-barrel .22 pellet rifle at Wallyworld. Lots of fun, and no twinge of regret over every trigger squeeze's putting me out a dime or more.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2013 09:17 AM (V3kRK)

274 Marlin 39A is on my short list for #1 Son's first gun.

Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at December 08, 2013 09:41 AM (Tjkt6)

275 It's not silly to the educrats who crush kids like this, it's called anarcho-tyranny.

Posted by: Beef at December 08, 2013 10:28 AM (XERws)

276 My invisible life was threatened by this kid's invisible bow and arrow (or was it a crossbow, I don't know, all those AR-15 Assault Bows look the same to me)!

Posted by: Invisible Liberal at December 08, 2013 10:31 AM (BmhuH)

277 I'd pull my kid out of the school because the staff are bug-fuck nuts and likely to run amok killing little kids thinking they are defending themselves.

This is simple - the staff have clearly expressed that they are incapable of distinguishing between a real weapon and some something that is NOT a real weapon (hell, NOT even a real object) - given that in pretty much any society there is some form of justified homicide / self-defense - the first test in judging if a homicide was justified or not is whether the killer believed that their was a threat to their life - a staffer mowing down a kid waving around a M-16 EBR would probably be found not only justified but deemed  a hero - the hysterical bug-fuck nut staffers here would mow down a kid using an air guitar, err, gun or bow and claim they are justified in that they saw a real weapon and since they cannot distinguish between a gun and something that in NOT a gun they are claiming insanity before the fact.

How many fuckin nuts openly show they are fuckin nuts before going off and killing a bunch of people because they are fuckin nuts ? Pretty much all of them.

That's why I'd pull my kids - because some of the staff are so fuckin nuts they REALLY cannot distinguish between weapons and NOT weapons - sooner or later they are going to 'defend' themselves against a room full of 1st graders with .45 fingers.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 08, 2013 10:38 AM (80R0X)

278 In other news, I'm enjoying my Ruger 10/22 more and more every time I shoot it. I'm thinking of putting some optics on it, any suggestions as to ones that won't make my bank cry for mercy? It came with a Weaver rail for the top of the receiver, but I'm also wondering if there is a way I can put Picatinny rails on there instead.

Posted by: FGCUJames at December 08, 2013 10:51 AM (BmhuH)

279 279 In other news, I'm enjoying my Ruger 10/22 more and more every time I shoot it. I'm thinking of putting some optics on it, any suggestions as to ones that won't make my bank cry for mercy? It came with a Weaver rail for the top of the receiver, but I'm also wondering if there is a way I can put Picatinny rails on there instead.

----------------------------

I've got a rail on mine. It's got a gutter down the middle so you can still use the irons. Let's see, where did I get it? Maybe Midway?

Ah, Amazon, I think. Probably this one:  http://tinyurl.com/orh7xfq

As far as optics go, what's your cost tolerance? Generally cheap optics are a waste of money, but it's a .22, so maybe you could get away with it. Just search on Amazon and read the reviews. If you can handle a touch under a C-note, people in the AR-15 world say that Primary Arms MD-06 are a great buy. If I ever put an optic on my AR, that will be my choice. Really doesn't cost that much more than the cheapest acceptable optic you'll find:

ttp://tinyurl.com/pmhoezs

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 11:45 AM (celt+)

280 Oops. I cut the first "h" off of that Primary Arms tinyurl. Should be this:

http://tinyurl.com/pmhoezs

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 08, 2013 11:47 AM (celt+)

281 Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 08, 2013 02:38 PM (80R0X)

Sucks that you posted this comment of brilliance on a dead thread.

Re-float it on the ONT?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 08, 2013 12:21 PM (Nsoq9)

282 I guess I'm late too. I baked all day then looked

Posted by: lindafell at December 08, 2013 01:52 PM (PGO8C)

283 I take it the idiot teacher did not see the imaginary suction cup on the imaginary arrow. Should be easy to get that cleared up with some eyewitness testimony.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 08, 2013 03:24 PM (Fa3Hi)

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