May 19, 2013

In Wake of Gosnell, Where are Appeals for Debate? [krakatoa]
— Open Blogger

NOTE: This was originally set for early last week, but Scandalgate broke, and it was impossible to find a slot for it in prime-time.

Every tragedy in this country seems to be an excuse for the Left and its mouthpieces to yarble for a "Debate" on how to prevent children from suffering. Notably missing however, from both the media and their dutiful reader's endless litany of causes to be outraged over is, not so surprisingly, anything that has the potential to roast one of their sacred cows.

One line in Breitbart's article on the multiple guilty in the 1st degree verdicts in the Gosnell murder trial has me steaming a bit, as it repeats one of the Left's unexamined lies that, if I could borrow the eloquent words of Tank Girl, really works my titties.

Both sides of the abortion divide seized on the case. Abortion foes said it exposed the true nature of abortion in all its disturbing detail. Abortion rights activists warned that Gosnell's rogue practice foreshadows what poor and desperate young women could face if abortion is driven underground with more restrictive laws. [emphasis mine]

Here, let me take apart this abortion of an argument that so offends my sensibilities:
First: I'm not sure I see how having to get a medical procedure done by a clinic that actually has passed some minimal medical inspections is a burden on any patient. I do suppose that failing to use sterile instruments or clean linens and/or kitty-litter boxes does decrease some overhead, allowing those cost-savings to be passed on to victims patients.

But one would be forgiven for thinking that in the regulation-addicted psyche of the average Leftist the concept of maintaining a safe environment for these procedures would be a no-brainer. Imagine, for clarity's sake, the wailing from the Left if regulatory control were lifted from Californian free-clinics that serve a large percentage of illegal immigrants.

Second: There is probably a reason Gosnell's clinic was so frequented by "poor and desperate" young women in search of late-term abortions, and I'd be willing (and yes, it goes without saying, racist) to hazard a guess that it has less to do with Gosnell's bargain rates and high volume, but rather that the phrase "poor and desperate" could be accurately and widely exchanged for any or all of the words & phrases "selfish, enthusiastically encouraged to abort over other alternatives, and incapable of using proper birth control".

Third: Given that the standard for inspecting clinics the past 15 years in Pa brought us precisely to this sad and horrifying end, I'd assert that the burden of proof lies on their side to prove that Gosnell's serial baby-murder shop is the "rogue" element in Abortion clinics.

Finally, if you want to illegally kill your late-term viable baby and the only way to get away with that murder is to find some back-alley butcher like Gosnell, I fail to see a real down side. Maybe you should have some skin in the game so you can make a fully-weighed choice. Does drastically improving the odds of survival for a life you actually care about offset one less month of inconveniently carrying your "parasite" to term, signing a few papers, and putting it up for adoption?

Or shorter: In the timeless words of Cliff Spab, So Fucking What, you callous, careless git!

And all this goes without exploring deeply the notion that the non-enforcement of laws which allowed the maniacal depredations of Gosnell is somehow a cautionary tale against more stringent laws in regards to late-term abortions. That is a self-serving logical contortion too righteously facile for my temperament to contemplate in more than a fleeting manner.

Nor do I address the overblown phenomena of back-alley abortions in the first place. Let me just say that I agree what few that occurred were horrible, but in my opinion they pale in comparison to the plight of poor hippy man-boys participating in drum-circles only to be violated by marauding bands of hyper-amorous and sexually indiscriminate moose.

I accept that exceptions to rules exist in all things. For instance, I can accept the choice for a late term abortion that is truly necessary to save the life of the mother; and I accept that a good argument for abortion can be made in the case of a severely deformed unborn baby. These are points where the debate lines blur.

So while I'd love to be able to take the Abortion-pushers' word that Gosnell was indeed an exception, his and several other "exceptions" provide what I think can be an acceptable point for people on both sides of the debate to agree that a serious investigation be opened into the influence the abortion "rights" lobbies have had on these sorts of medical procedures, and yes, on whether existing abortion restrictions go far enough.

The debate lines aren't blurry in cases like Gosnell's, and if we had a truly objective press whose agenda was the truth rather than an ideological quiche of special Leftist interests, those lines would have been debated decades ago and untold numbers of children's lives would have been saved.

Instead, from a media and a movement that is obsessed with the bodies of dead (and not-so-dead) children (and not-so-children) when it suits their narrative of the day, we got crickets on the substance of this trial, and either an ostentatious display of looking the other way to more important news like slutty-murderess Jodi Ariola (or whatever the hell her name is - I could never be bothered to pay any attention); or the obnoxious one of demonizing those who noted their self-serving hypocrisy.

This sordid story reveals one of the great ironies of Obama's legacy (as it were): One of the barbed arrows spent in service of Obamacare was the spurious argument that doctors perform unneeded amputations to bolster their bottom lines.

Now, here, we have a clear and proven example of abortion clinics performing unneeded late-term abortions for pure profit and macabre fun, and nary a peep from the establishment Left, much less Obama himself, that more regulation is the answer, much less that a debate be enjoined on a procedure they claim is a vanishingly narrow slice of the abortion pie.

Like so many other issues, the debate... the science... the law... is always settled whenever the topic has the potential to be an inconvenient wedge issue for the Left.

If one of the byproducts of abortions was a dead environmentally insignificant fish or three in some river delta or perhaps a few well-lubricated pelicans the Gulf of Mexico, there would have been a moratorium on them years ago.

But a dead baby, or 3, or 30 or...?

Eggs. Omelettes. Penumbras. You know the drill.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:40 AM | Comments (77)
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1 I   golfed   yesterday.  May  play  again  today.  Suck  it,  proles.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at May 19, 2013 08:43 AM (utKTB)

2 Today's word-of-the-day, sent by the Obama Empire Foundation, is "irrelevant".

Posted by: eman at May 19, 2013 08:47 AM (cQ4xo)

3 The concept that Gosselin was a logical consequence of restrictive abortion laws is offensive on two levels.

One -- it is logically inconsistent. Abortion is not highly restricted, and the women who went to this butcher had access to many other abortion providers during the long, legal portions of their pregnancies.

Two -- the abortion rights activists extend their "bit of tissue" argument to irrational, wildly stupid extremes. "Bits of tissue" do not cry, or wail, or squirm. it is simply a technique to desensitize America to the murder of children and other unwanted people.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2013 08:48 AM (O6Tmi)

4 Both sides of the abortion divide seized on the case.



I take exception to that statement.  The left and the MFM ignored the case right up until the end.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2013 08:48 AM (53z96)

5 Dear Krak,
The GOP does not give two shits so, why should I?

Regards,

A


Posted by: IRS Pension Fund at May 19, 2013 08:49 AM (Cs2tJ)

6 Inhuman practice is anti-human. CBD-- It also exposes the lie of 'what a woman does with her own body' if it is still imperative to kill that child once they are separated from their mother.

Posted by: zsasz at May 19, 2013 08:50 AM (MMC8r)

7 Bits of tissue do not try to swim out of the toilet they are being flushed in.  Anyone who tries to defend this butcher is either insane or just as big of an animal as he was.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2013 08:50 AM (53z96)

8 I like turtles.

Posted by: Joey Biden at May 19, 2013 08:50 AM (YYyqq)

9 They also said hack shacks like Gosnell's are thankfully rare. But look around and they keep popping up. They also said that the moral of the story is that we need to have more access to free birth control for the poor. But Gosnell operated in Philadelphia, where you can already get free birth control via multiple avenues. They also said they couldn't be bothered to cover the story because it was a mere local crime. Like what, Jodi Arias?

Posted by: Cowboy at May 19, 2013 08:50 AM (FMrA0)

10 'it' is separated from 'its' mother. Geez. No brain today.

Posted by: zsasz at May 19, 2013 08:50 AM (MMC8r)

11 They also said hack shacks like Gosnell's are thankfully rare. But look around and they keep popping up. Some of the late term places might be more sanitary, but I'm betting the execution processes are pretty common across the board.

Posted by: zsasz at May 19, 2013 08:52 AM (MMC8r)

12 "...it is still imperative to kill that child once they are separated from their mother."

Posted by: zsasz at May 19, 2013 12:50 PM (MMC8r)

Nazi Germany. Maoist China. Pol Pot's Cambodia. Philadelphia, PA.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2013 08:52 AM (O6Tmi)

13 The pro abortion camp isn't interested in debate. It's interested only in making apologia and excuses for pure evil.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2013 08:53 AM (NEIxp)

14 Basically, you can walk through the front door to get to the back alley these days.  We're talking about a few inches making the difference between "aborting a fetus" and "slaughtering an innocent."  Gosnell brings into focus just what type of butchery goes on in an abortion clinic.  Better regulated facilities are just cleaner.  That's what the media and Planned Parenthood are going out of their way to ignore. 

Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2013 08:54 AM (mjR67)

15 Just force the liberal left to agree that Gosnell is a perfect example of Laissez Faire unregulated free market profit motive bringing unscrupulous profiteers into that market. What Gosnell was doing is the exactly perfect argument for the leftists favorite government regulation. If Gosnell were a Wall Street Banker, the left would be going crazy.

 

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 19, 2013 08:55 AM (034vh)

16 I'm sorry for wandering OT, but I wanted to get into a thread white it was still fresh. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me why a perfectly innocuous comment I made in the ONT was deleted. At about 12:30 I said I had won the Powerball (lie) and was upset that I had wasted $2 on a second ticket; I also said that I'd be buying a P-47 with my winnings (one of the discussions in the ONT-what WWII plane would you buy?). That's it, that was my whole post. Why was that disappeared? What am I doing wrong? Back OT, although I've been anti-abortion for a while now, it's only in these last few months that I've come to fully understand Scott Roeder. I don't fully condone what he did, but I understand it and honestly it doesn't seem to me to be any different than the tragedy with the Hofstra student that Vic posted in the morning thread. No different at all, really.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 19, 2013 08:56 AM (aH+zP)

17 Women's Health. FYNQ

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 19, 2013 08:57 AM (CoNx9)

18 If Gosnell were a Wall Street Banker, the left would be going crazy. **** He would have gotten a bailout and retired before the charges were filed or bought off the law like the Banksters.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at May 19, 2013 08:57 AM (MhA4j)

19 It goes without sayig that the president himself faught 3 times for a law that would make every abortion clinic a clinic to lop the heads off babies after taking one breath.

Posted by: Up With People at May 19, 2013 08:58 AM (krveP)

20 >>Posted by: Weirddave at May 19, 2013 12:56 PM (aH+zP) Your comment was deleted because it violated the style guide. The proper use for lottery winnings is hookers and blow.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 19, 2013 09:01 AM (CoNx9)

21 Posted by: Weirddave at May 19, 2013 12:56 PM (aH+zP)

And you were sober.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2013 09:04 AM (O6Tmi)

22  minor point...Of major significance. A three story building, on a major intersection, with Four Foot High Lettering on the front, resembles no "Back Alley" I have ever slunk through.

Posted by: Jeff Talbut at May 19, 2013 09:05 AM (V5auc)

23 If he was sober then it's banhammer time. That's simply unacceptable.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 19, 2013 09:06 AM (CoNx9)

24 Posted by: Weirddave at May 19, 2013 12:56 PM (aH+zP) If you hadn't stipulated you wanted your P-47 equipped with Long Bows it would have been OK

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at May 19, 2013 09:09 AM (MhA4j)

25 Where he was is irrelevant, who advised him is irrelevant, who changed the talking points is irrelevant. Rashid Khaledi? Val Jar? Huma?

Posted by: Thunderb at May 19, 2013 09:10 AM (nH8jP)

26 There are already tweets appearing that suggest a Gosnell in Texas.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2013 09:10 AM (piMMO)

27 Dept. Of Acuracy at May 19, 2013 12:57

Doesn't that really depend on the time frame and who is talking, since the left is only interested in the needs of the moment, and can change streams of logic in mid sentence.

i.e. pre/post fin reg, consumer finance protection, stimulus 1/2/3/x, mortgage redlining vs predatory lending, Dodd-Frank, mark to market rules.

No one can deny that Planned Parenthood and the people who work there are in it for the money. Well, the delusional can, but it's a waste of time talking to the insane.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 19, 2013 09:11 AM (Icj4W)

28 None of these words make any sense.

Posted by: charles gibson at May 19, 2013 09:11 AM (PD2ad)

29 Douglas Karpen of Houston http://bit.ly/12EQkKU

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2013 09:12 AM (piMMO)

30 There is one in Houston. He was sued foe giving a late term abortion to a minor. There are three witnesses, on video, former employees who describe unsanitary conditions and live births. Texas AG looking into it.

Posted by: Thunderb at May 19, 2013 09:12 AM (nH8jP)

31 24 Posted by: Weirddave at May 19, 2013 12:56 PM (aH+zP) If you hadn't stipulated you wanted your P-47 equipped with Long Bows it would have been OK Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at May 19, 2013 01:09 PM (MhA4j) He also failed to ask for boobeh pics.

Posted by: eman at May 19, 2013 09:13 AM (SXsuy)

32 Operation rescue is reporting and investigating it thus far.

Posted by: Thunderb at May 19, 2013 09:13 AM (nH8jP)

33 I am de-lurking just to point out one fallacy in the above argument (which is great, overall). There is never a need for a late term abortion. Ever. If you are at the point where you are considered "late term" then you're also at the point where the correct procedure for a mother who can medically no longer carry her child without risk to her life is called a cesarean section. After which they put the child in the NICU. There is never any reason to intentionally kill a child who live outside the womb (with help or without).

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at May 19, 2013 09:14 AM (qFpRI)

34 gonna sit this one out gang...

Gosnell has me in a rage even with the "win."

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 19, 2013 09:14 AM (LRFds)

35 24 Posted by: Weirddave at May 19, 2013 12:56 PM (aH+zP)

He also failed to ask for boobeh pics.

Posted by: eman at May 19, 2013 01:13 PM (SXsuy)

Weirddave....you disgust me!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2013 09:15 AM (O6Tmi)

36 He is weird by his own admission

Posted by: Thunderb at May 19, 2013 09:15 AM (nH8jP)

37 The poor, desperate mothers can't afford a few hundred dollars to abort the baby very early on, before it is viable, but they can afford a thousand or more to abort it later? Bullshit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2013 09:16 AM (piMMO)

38 I am constantly amazed that we aren't splattered with leftist heads exploding from cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: real joe at May 19, 2013 09:17 AM (PD2ad)

39

There's another "one off" clinic in Texas where the abortionist is being accused of doing late-term abortions and twisting off the babies' heads with his bare hands.

 

 It's being investigated, but I don't expect to hear about it on the evening news.  Another local crime story.

Posted by: girldog at May 19, 2013 09:17 AM (i/s89)

40 33 I am de-lurking just to point out one fallacy in the above argument (which is great, overall). There is never a need for a late term abortion. Ever. If you are at the point where you are considered "late term" then you're also at the point where the correct procedure for a mother who can medically no longer carry her child without risk to her life is called a cesarean section. After which they put the child in the NICU. There is never any reason to intentionally kill a child who live outside the womb (with help or without). Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at May 19, 2013 01:14 PM (qFpRI) The purpose of abortion is to create and maintain political power. So, actually, there is a reason. At least North Korea is more honest and open about its death camps.

Posted by: eman at May 19, 2013 09:18 AM (SXsuy)

41 What does it matter? It's irrelevant!

Posted by: Thunderb at May 19, 2013 09:19 AM (nH8jP)

42 It's being investigated, but I don't expect to hear about it on the evening news. Another local crime story *** I link it above. The article is, of course, from the British press.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2013 09:19 AM (piMMO)

43 37 NDH,

The lies aren't there to be believed they're there to keep rage in check....

and I am getting past that working.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 19, 2013 09:19 AM (LRFds)

44 I'm kinda liking my hash.

Posted by: eman at May 19, 2013 09:19 AM (SXsuy)

45 Apparently you can use that for anything

Posted by: Thunderb at May 19, 2013 09:19 AM (nH8jP)

46 Sure...you're sexy and I hate Jewish princesses

Posted by: Thunderb at May 19, 2013 09:21 AM (nH8jP)

47 No one can deny that Planned Parenthood and the people who work there are in it for the money... Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 19, 2013 01:11 PM I wrote this way, way back upon my disaffection from the left... "ItÂ’s also about the easy money and all the ways to skim from the system. They have their friends and family create fancy sounding foundations or institutes and funnel earmarks into their pockets. They give defense and civil project money to corrupt organizations and corporations where it is funneled back to them and theirs. The republicans have a few bad apples but they are nothing near the democrats in sleaze and corruption. " That last statement needs modification though.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at May 19, 2013 09:22 AM (MhA4j)

48
"If one of the byproducts of abortions was a dead environmentally insignificant fish or three in some river delta or perhaps a few well-lubricated pelicans the Gulf of Mexico, there would have been a moratorium on them years ago."

Um.., no
For the Left, environmentalism is not an end, it is a weapon to be used against us.
You'll never see the Left get too concerned about any of the environmental disasters that occur in any of the totalitarian countries. If abortion caused the wholesale extinction of any species, they would still ignore it.

We are the enemy.   

Posted by: rayj at May 19, 2013 09:24 AM (V2EQt)

49 48 rayj,

Yup they use envirowackoism as a sword and shield of fund raising and litigatory warfare to jam opponents...

that's it... we'd be smart to start up a Conservative version of the Sierra Club and start shaking down DNC donors....


Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 19, 2013 09:27 AM (LRFds)

50 There's even another aspect to this case that hasn't gotten really any attention. Gosnell had a separate room for white women according to testimony. The reason given was something along the lines of 'white girls are much pickier about cleanliness and stuff'. Yeah, those body parts and blood all over the place sure does turn off white women. Where all the white wimmins at?
 
But not black women. Hmmm, sounds just a bit racist to me but what the hell do I know. It sounds almost like segregation too. Now, I actually have a bit of experience in that area. Back in the late 50s/early 60s, one of my granddads owned a bar in Arkansas. It had a white and a black section, with separate entrances to boot. He sold it after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed.
 
Maybe Gosnell just didn't get the memo.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 19, 2013 09:34 AM (ccXZP)

51 President Obama: "These men were many things to many people and they knew full well the role that racism played in their life. But when it came to their own accomplishments and sense of purpose, they had no time for excuses. Every one of you has a grandma or an uncle or a parent whose told you at some point in life as an African American you have to work twice as hard as anyone else if you want to get by." This is a racist statement. In this economy, everybody has to work twice as hard just to keep their lunch. There is always somebody ready to eat it.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 19, 2013 09:35 AM (bZx1r)

52 A book I could recommend to young parents (I know it's not the book thread, but it applies) is by David Elkind, 'The Hurried Child'. The premise is that all of the 'must do' activities of childhood; the soccer, swim practice, hockey practice, the t-ball, piano practice, ballet, etc... the constant rushing around from planned and coordinated activities leaves the child little time to examine his/her own life and develop a sense of self. To paraphrase the author childhood is good, and there is little sense to rush children into adulthood. To tie this into abortion debate, look at how this administration seems to be rushing girls (yes girls, not women) into adulthood. The availability of an abortifacient like Plan B for 15 year old girls gives what message exactly? That it is normal and expected that you should engage in intercourse at such an age? The message society should be sending is delay, delay, delay. Give the children some time for their minds to catch up with their bodies and perhaps there will be less need for monsters like Gosnell to ply his trade.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 19, 2013 09:37 AM (U2UQk)

53 I bet you could get most pro-choice supporters to agree with you that our abortion laws should be more like Europe's if they aren't aware you are pro-life when making the argument.

Posted by: buzzion at May 19, 2013 09:38 AM (LI48c)

54 >> The poor, desperate mothers can't afford a few hundred dollars to abort the baby very early on, before it is viable, but they can afford a thousand or more to abort it later?
 
NDH, I recall reading that he charged closer to $300 than a grand. I could be wrong on that though.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 19, 2013 09:38 AM (ccXZP)

55 *crickets*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 19, 2013 09:41 AM (GQ72I)

56 54 >> The poor, desperate mothers can't afford a few hundred dollars to abort
the baby very early on, before it is viable, but they can afford a
thousand or more to abort it later?

NDH, I recall reading that he charged closer to $300 than a grand. I could be wrong on that though.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 19, 2013 01:38 PM (ccXZP)

 

It probably depended on who the person was.  If they had the money he gave them the nice sterilized room where he would murder the babies for the grand.  If they were poor they got the backroom death chamber.

Posted by: buzzion at May 19, 2013 09:41 AM (LI48c)

57 I saw a lady with 2 bumper stickers: "US out of my Uterus!" And "I (heart) Hunting Accidents." They hate humanity. I can't imagine an "anti-choice" person (as they so lovingly refer to us as) with a "I (heart) Botched Abortions When the Mother Dies" sticker.

Posted by: Ghost at May 19, 2013 09:42 AM (SG9Ke)

58 Quote: "Los Angeles and Ho Chi Min City have declared themselves sister cities. It makes sense: they are both Third World metropolises formerly occupied by Americans." Jeff Cooper, 1994

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 19, 2013 09:43 AM (VlXYw)

59 57 I saw a lady with 2 bumper stickers: "US out of my Uterus!" And "I (heart) Hunting Accidents." And I guaran-fuckin-tee you she is against the death penalty for hideous murderers.

Posted by: real joe at May 19, 2013 09:46 AM (PD2ad)

60 Obama speaking of fairness is like Bill Clinton speaking of chastity.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 19, 2013 09:47 AM (VlXYw)

61

I posted this last week, but it bears repeating:  The claims of high numbers of fatalities from illegal abortions prior to Roe is fiction.  Dr. Bernard Nathanson, who was co-founder of NARAL, admitted decades ago that he invented those numbers for the press.  He quit doing abortions after watching a sonogram of one he was performing.  His book is called "Silent Scream".

 

Also, my mother was an ER nurse in South Florida, and  I asked her how many botched abortions she had seen prior to Roe.  She paused for a moment and said, "none". (The pause was probably because she was moderately pro-choice).  Granted that's anecdotal, but how common could it be if an ER nurse had seen no women with botched illegal abortions, let alone a fatality.   

Posted by: girldog at May 19, 2013 09:49 AM (i/s89)

62 Brit Hume on Twitter: Brit Hume ‏@brithume WH's Dan Pfeiffer is a nice man. It's abusive of Obama to send him on Sunday shows with no more to say than he had today. Lame answers.

Posted by: USA at May 19, 2013 09:52 AM (VIaw0)

63

Way back when I was still teaching, we had a bit of a time with one English teacher who wanted to fail any paper )in the "argumentative" section of composition) that argued a pro-life stance. No one could make her see that a student's opinion, in an opinion paper, was valid and that the marking should only be done for composition errors.  She was quite vehement that she would fail any pro-life paper.  Finally, the Dep't. Head had to forbid her from failing pro-life position papers.

Her intransigence and genuine hostility was amazing, and she had to be watched for the rest of the semester, as she would try to fail any student whom she perceived as "pro-life" on other papers as well....

Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at May 19, 2013 09:52 AM (7v5Ct)

64 These stories are exactly what I meant when I commented about the 'savage' Afghans who killed/mutilated the 8 year old bride. Savages there, and savages within our country.

Posted by: RWC at May 19, 2013 09:52 AM (Wl/Ht)

65 Or better yet, they have their savages, we have ours.

Posted by: RWC at May 19, 2013 09:53 AM (Wl/Ht)

66

I posted this last week, but it bears repeating: The claims of high numbers of fatalities from illegal abortions prior to Roe is fiction. Dr. Bernard Nathanson, who was co-founder of NARAL, admitted decades ago that he invented those numbers for the press. He quit doing abortions after watching a sonogram of one he was performing. His book is called "Silent Scream".

 

I believe they did a video of that too.  I remember watching it in Catechism and it was called "Silent Scream"

Posted by: buzzion at May 19, 2013 09:53 AM (LI48c)

67 Brit Hume ‏@brithume WH's Dan Pfeiffer is a nice man. It's abusive of Obama to send him on Sunday shows with no more to say than he had today. Lame answers --- Badly doesn't know what to do now that the media isn't reflexively believing his lies.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 19, 2013 09:56 AM (VlXYw)

68 The best option is bringing the infant to term and letting a loving family adopt. May be a painful experience for the mother, but is far better than the pain caused should she have decided to kill it I would imagine.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2013 09:58 AM (jucos)

69 And you were sober. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2013 01:04 PM (O6Tmi) If that's breaking a rule, then I'm surprised any of my posts survive at all, including this o

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at May 19, 2013 10:01 AM (5J54Q)

70 And you were sober. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2013 01:04 PM (O6Tmi) Now that's just low.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 19, 2013 10:15 AM (aH+zP)

71 Democrats always will do well at election time when the abortion debate light gets turned on. Is that what the GOP needs? There is already a long list of over 100,000 babies waiting for adoption. I can not see how adding another 1 million per year would shorten that line.

Posted by: occam at May 19, 2013 10:32 AM (DAHhf)

72 If the right stepped up and adopted more maybe ttere would be fewer abortions. Whatever happened to that meme about the poor women having lots of kids so that they could cruise in Caddies? welfare queens or baby killing ?

Posted by: occam at May 19, 2013 10:36 AM (DAHhf)

73 Seriously, occam? Concern troll much?

Posted by: krakatoa at May 19, 2013 11:08 AM (eCtnP)

74

 Occam 2:32 If there's list of 100,000 babies waiting to be adopted, why is there a long wait for couples waiting to adopt?  Where did you get your "fact" from? 

You should think about what you are defending.  This post is about abortionists who are murdering late term babies in filthy clinics by severing their spinal cords with scissors or twisting off their heads like they were chickens. Get a soul.

Posted by: girldog at May 19, 2013 11:17 AM (i/s89)

75

they use the term "national conversation" on NPR - not "debate" so much. they think it makes them sound smarter or something

Posted by: Sid Vicious at May 19, 2013 11:49 AM (AUE8X)

76 The worst here, and I'm not sure if it was mentioned, was that the JURY only said 'he got greedy, trying to help these poor women'.

Really?  So killing babies is a greed factor, not a morality one?

That jury came within a hairsbreadth of finding him not guilty.  If he'd not been rich, they likely would have let him go.

Posted by: Mr Wolf, non-Esq at May 19, 2013 01:13 PM (UIAT6)

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The Left is not interested in morality or helping poor women. Sandra Fluke and her ilk want more free stuff for upper middle class. All they can do is scream bloody blue murder at a political convention in their vagina costumes over free birth control. Why? Sandra and her law school pals can't figure out to take a cab to the pharmacy at Target.

Posted by: Wendy at May 20, 2013 06:39 AM (KydDZ)

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