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August 22, 2013

Incredible: Photo Essay on the Packs of Wild Dogs Now Roaming Detroit
— Ace

The City of the Future brought to you by the ideology of the past.

The slideshow ends on a somewhat upbeat note, as the photographer turns to snapping pictures of citizens who have rescued/adopted some of the city's wild dogs.

#WarOnCivilization

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1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 09:40 AM (/PCJa)

2 Leftard Utopia, realized.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2013 09:40 AM (8ZskC)

3 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 09:40 AM (/PCJa)

4 But save all the puppehs.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 09:40 AM (/PCJa)

5 Bark for me!

Posted by: Wicket at August 22, 2013 09:40 AM (OsGDg)

6 Wild Dog is just a tad too gamey for me.

Posted by: Barakhenaten I at August 22, 2013 09:41 AM (x95s+)

7 I hear dog pounds in the city are thinking of offering dog owners $25k in vouchers if they'll move there.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 22, 2013 09:41 AM (tVWQB)

8 This place is going to the dogs.

Posted by: rickl at August 22, 2013 09:41 AM (zoehZ)

9 In Detroit a dingo really could eat your baby.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2013 09:42 AM (8ZskC)

10 Honestly, I do feel for the dogs. First, because I happen to love dogs. Second, because it's not like the dogs *chose* to live there. They (or their ancestors) were abandoned at some point; they have the same Right every other living being does to attempt to go on living.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 09:42 AM (/PCJa)

11 Sociologists should visit the city to study the behavior of all the animals........including the democRATS.

Posted by: Not an Artist at August 22, 2013 09:42 AM (uRumV)

12 So what you're saying is that the quality and behavior of the local gangs is improving.

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2013 09:42 AM (LI48c)

13 Posted by: @JohnTant at August 22, 2013 01:41 PM (tVWQB) Not even 10 comments in and we've got Epic Snark. I love it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 09:42 AM (/PCJa)

14 Little pitchy, Dog.

Posted by: Randy Jackson at August 22, 2013 09:42 AM (x95s+)

15 Did someone say LUNCH!

Posted by: Obama at August 22, 2013 09:44 AM (MnSla)

16 And I'm very sorry Christopher Lee was murdered. Those ash stakes through the heart are murder!

Posted by: jesse jackson at August 22, 2013 09:44 AM (OsGDg)

17 Any good Chinese Restaurant could get that under control in just a few weeks.

And it could be advertised as "Free Range, antibiotic free" as well

Win-win

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 22, 2013 09:44 AM (SfGRU)

18 Who's retarded now?

Posted by: Ricky Bobby at August 22, 2013 09:44 AM (qRasw)

19 I was talking about the Dogs of Detroit with a co-worker this morning. I don't really know what you can say about this. We have what used to be one of the grand cities of this country left as a place where Mad Max could freely roam and whenever anyone tries to discuss how that occurred, well, you know how that story ends.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 09:44 AM (VtjlW)

20 Those dogs could still beat the Lions.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 09:45 AM (bufJH)

21 So what you're saying is that the quality and behavior of the local gangs is improving. At least they don't shit where they sleep.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 09:45 AM (b1/nQ)

22 >>>Little pitchy, Dog

HAH

Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 09:45 AM (/IWYB)

23 When I was a kid there was always a pack of neighborhood dogs around.They weren't strays(though some strays did run with them).Hardly anyone fixed their dogs and no one thought much about it.They didn't hurt anyone.My own dog would escape and run with the boys for a day or 2 on a regular basis.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 09:45 AM (9XBK2)

24 The Lord Humongous will be next on scene with his assless chaps.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 09:45 AM (g1DWB)

25 So technically Detroit would be the only place Obama would actually go hunting, right?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 22, 2013 09:45 AM (EGPJQ)

26 If they're anything like most of the stray dogs in LA, these dogs are probably ready to run a candidate for city council.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 09:46 AM (jwi8H)

27 We have what used to be one of the grand cities of this country left as a place where Mad Max could freely roam and whenever anyone tries to discuss how that occurred, well, you know how that story ends. I heard a "boy" at the end of that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 09:46 AM (/PCJa)

28 Foghorn,

mmm.... Free Range Dog.

Posted by: Baracky Bammy at August 22, 2013 09:46 AM (/IWYB)

29 So what are you raycist crackas trying to say

Posted by: Kwame Kilpatrick at August 22, 2013 09:46 AM (Pr6hk)

Hey, who's complaining? Beats a pack of deathclaws.

Posted by: Heralder at August 22, 2013 09:47 AM (+xmn4)

31 "Low Winter Sun" on AMC Sunday nights is set in Detroit. Two English dudes in the lead cop roles, and based on a Canadian series

the Left wants to turn the world into a mall--where they have the no-limit Platinum cards and we offer up goodies and services for their amusement

and don't mention race !!! not ever!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 20,000 Syrians under the sea at August 22, 2013 09:47 AM (omBWL)

32 If they're anything like most of the stray dogs in LA, these dogs are probably ready to run a candidate for city council. The dogs' platform would probably be more coherent than the Democrats'.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 09:47 AM (/PCJa)

33 I'm surprised that Detroit's SWAT teams aren't using them for target practice. I guess they only shoot dogs that somebody is taking care of

Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2013 09:47 AM (/9IC1)

34 I hear dog pounds in the city are thinking of offering dog owners $25k in vouchers if they'll move there.

Posted by: @JohnTant

you funneh

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 09:47 AM (zOTsN)

35 The state of Michigan is still running tv ads urging people to come to Detroit.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 22, 2013 09:47 AM (TauCs)

36 In the small ghetto of Tallahassee named Frenchtown, there was also at least one pack of feral dogs. While the friend who related it to me was not scared, he was definitely aware how weird a situation it was in a state capital in the USA; he had been to Africa and seen worse, but seeing that in Tally? Bizarre.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 09:47 AM (bufJH)

Thinking of Detroit puts me in an Isaiah 34 kind of mood:

"It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever.

But the cormorant and the bittern shall possess it; the owl also and the raven shall dwell in it: and he shall stretch out upon it the line of confusion, and the stones of emptiness.

They shall call the nobles thereof to the kingdom, but none shall be there, and all her princes shall be nothing."

Posted by: troyriser at August 22, 2013 09:47 AM (O66NZ)

38 Those dogs probably still vote Democrat.

Posted by: Ben at August 22, 2013 09:48 AM (L/QR0)

39 So you think anyone would notice me?

Posted by: Michael Vick at August 22, 2013 09:48 AM (Pr6hk)

40 The sign of the times read, "WTF?"

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 22, 2013 09:48 AM (Hx5uv)

41 Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at August 22, 2013 09:48 AM (MnSla)

42 I heard a "boy" at the end of that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 01:46 PM

Just background noise on Maureen Dowd's recording device

Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2013 09:48 AM (/9IC1)

43 35 The state of Michigan is still running tv ads urging people to come to Detroit.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 22, 2013 01:47 PM (TauCs)

Jwest must be in charge of their ad campaigns.

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2013 09:49 AM (LI48c)

44 In glancing through the slideshow at the link... it appears Detroit has enough money to run Glamour Shots pictures of the doggehs they have captured.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 22, 2013 09:49 AM (EGPJQ)

45 The state of Michigan is still running tv ads urging people to come to Detroit.

Come for the colorful wildlife, stay for the crack addicts living in the hallway of your hotel.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2013 09:49 AM (8ZskC)

46 call me a first worlder but how you treat your dogs tells me how you treat your people

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 09:49 AM (zOTsN)

47 Valerie, can we make a trip to Detroit? Pleeeeease

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at August 22, 2013 09:50 AM (Pr6hk)

48 http://tinyurl.com/ksw2rha

Posted by: Ricky Bobby at August 22, 2013 09:50 AM (qRasw)

49 I've seen coyotes near Griffith Park in LA

I wonder if they can crossbreed with feral dogs?

Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2013 09:50 AM (/9IC1)

50 Come for the colorful wildlife, stay for the crack addicts living in the hallway of your hotel. You get my cheez-whiz, boy?

Posted by: Crack addict playing cards at August 22, 2013 09:50 AM (QF8uk)

51 I feel for the good folks volunteering for DDR. They're to good to be working in such a cesspool.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 09:50 AM (bufJH)

52 Detroit: One Step From The Walking Dead.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 22, 2013 09:50 AM (Hx5uv)

53 Racist. Dog. Whistle.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2013 09:50 AM (x95s+)

54 7 I hear dog pounds in the city are thinking of offering dog owners $25k in vouchers if they'll move there.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 22, 2013 01:41 PM (tVWQB)

The so-called conservatives on this blog are going to flay you alive for offering such an unconventional yet brilliant Idea to revitalize Detroit.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 09:51 AM (oY6Yp)

55 Homer ( the old Greek dude, not Simpson ) thought packs of wild dogs were an omen. Encroaching barbarism, which the Greeks named and feared.

Hollywood could do a movie, with Matt Damon playing Ulysses

Posted by: 20,000 Syrians under the sea at August 22, 2013 09:51 AM (omBWL)

33I'm surprised that Detroit's SWAT teams aren't using them for target practice. I guess they only shoot dogs that somebody is taking care of

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Pretty much. I suspect that if the cops were to start taking the dogs out, the SPCA and similar organizations would come down on them like a ton of bricks, with lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit.

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 09:51 AM (UWFpX)

37. Troy

This actually describes D.C.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 22, 2013 09:51 AM (EGPJQ)

58 Sonsabitches! BUMPUSES!

Posted by: Ralphie's Old Man at August 22, 2013 09:51 AM (tl7W6)

59 nay to the flay I say

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 09:51 AM (zOTsN)

60 50 I've seen coyotes near Griffith Park in LA

I wonder if they can crossbreed with feral dogs?

Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2013 01:50 PM (/9IC1)

Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coydog

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2013 09:51 AM (LI48c)

61 The glamour shots are by a private citizen non-profit that's trying to save the dogs. The city can't even afford to cremate the dogs they euthanize.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 22, 2013 09:52 AM (l2max)

62 I would call them dogs, I would call them 'under-appreciated'

Oh shit you weren't kidding, those are real dogs....

Posted by: Bob Filner at August 22, 2013 09:52 AM (Pr6hk)

Anybody seen this? Ace?

http://tinyurl.com/ms4p2qt

Posted by: maddogg at August 22, 2013 09:52 AM (xWW96)

64 Let's take a ride, and run with the dogs tonight
In Suburbia
You can't hide, run with the dogs tonight
In Suburbia

Break the window by the town hall
Listen, the siren screams
There in the distance, like a roll call
Of all the suburban dreams

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 22, 2013 09:52 AM (hSwFv)

65 In a few years, these dogs will be in total control of old Detroit.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 09:52 AM (GQ8sn)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 01:42 PM (/PCJa)

And what right is that relative to humans?

we've got Dog maulings happening in St. Louis (http://t.co/Z4ImidefxJ), a little over 10 years ago a kid was killed by pack of wild dogs. An animals right to exist is pretty much determinant on our desire to let it keep living (see also: hunting.)

I get that the dogs don't really have a "choice" but that's kinda what separates us from the animals, no? The problem should have been nipped in the bud years ago, but a) Detroit and b) no one ever seems to want to do what's needed for the stray problem.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 09:52 AM (GaqMa)

67
I wonder if they can crossbreed with feral dogs?

Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2013 01:50 PM (/9IC1)

Yep.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2013 09:52 AM (x95s+)

68 #47 Amen to that; also people who have well behaved dogs also have polite children who stay off my lawn.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 22, 2013 09:52 AM (TauCs)

69 Make sure those dogs have signed their union cards.

Posted by: James Hoffa Jr. at August 22, 2013 09:53 AM (Pr6hk)

70 We're just biding our time...

Posted by: Cats of Detroit at August 22, 2013 09:53 AM (ZshNr)

71 When Obama retires he can move to Detroit and become a rancher.

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at August 22, 2013 09:53 AM (5fSr7)

72 Coyotes are everywhere in SoCal; they come and go, like Michelangelo

Posted by: J. Albert Prufrock at August 22, 2013 09:53 AM (omBWL)

73 I've seen coyotes near Griffith Park in LA

I wonder if they can crossbreed with feral dogs?

Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2013 01:50 PM (/9IC1)

Yes. Coy-dogs are a problem in the rural parts of my (and adjoining) counties here in Indiana. They are unafraid of people and run cattle to death.

Posted by: troyriser at August 22, 2013 09:53 AM (O66NZ)

74 50 I've seen coyotes near Griffith Park in LAI wonder if they can crossbreed with feral dogs? Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2013 01:50 PM (/9IC1) Wolves, Coyotes, and dogs are all so closely related that they can all interbreed. In fact, their children aren't sterile (which raises interesting species questions- such as: are Wolves and Coyotes really different species, or just different breeds or sub-species of the same base-species?).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 09:53 AM (/PCJa)

I feel the need to repost one of my all-time favorite comments in response to this thread, because it's just so appropriate. From Jinx the Cat (http://minx.cc/?post=342025):

178 A friend of mine was working at the GM plant at the Hamtramck city line and there was a homeless guy with a shopping cart full of stolen copper being chased by wild dogs.

It is the stuff of The Book of Eli.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 29, 2013 09:48 AM (l3vZN)

Grim? Yes.

Hilarious? HELL yes.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at August 22, 2013 09:54 AM (4df7R)

76 Maybe it's going to hurt some sensibilities, but really, wouldn't a mass hunt followed by a funeral pyre outside the city limits somewhere be the most realistic solution to this... considering it's broke-ass Detroit?

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 22, 2013 09:54 AM (l2max)

77 I find the packs of two-legged feral predators to be of greater concern than I do the packs of four-legged feral predators.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 22, 2013 09:54 AM (gqT4g)

78 Red Rocket, Red Rocket!!!! Wanna see

Posted by: Danger, Carlos Danger - Agent Double O Naught at August 22, 2013 09:55 AM (Pr6hk)

79 Yes. Coy-dogs are a problem inthe rural parts of my (and adjoining) counties here in Indiana.Theyare unafraid of people and run cattle to death. Posted by: troyriser at August 22, 2013 01:53 PM (O66NZ) With the wolve population incresing in many parts of the country, there is also cross breeding taking place between Coyotes and Wolves.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 22, 2013 09:55 AM (XIxXP)

80 I will skip the show as I have vastly more sympathy for those innocent dogs than I do for the humans infesting Detroit.

Posted by: TrueNorthist at August 22, 2013 09:55 AM (3Aixx)

81 if you don't take care of your dog, let it run wild, don't train it, discard it when its inconvenient, dump it in the hard times, make it someone else's responsibility, well you will do that with your kids and its how you treat all your responsibilities

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 09:55 AM (zOTsN)

Shoot, I've had coyotes outside my office door. I was standing at the door making stupid talk with the company cat and all of a sudden she bolted around the corner, and I'm like WTF and all of a sudden some mangy coyote comes hauling ass from the other direction and we're face to face.

Then there's the lynx and the mountain lion family that come to browse at the bird feeders at work.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 22, 2013 09:55 AM (9U1OG)

I've seen coyotes near Griffith Park in LAI wonder if they can crossbreed with feral dogs?

Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2013 01:50 PM (/9IC1)

New Hampshire has a crapload of coydogs: coyote/dog crossbreeds. They're a lot meaner than either coyotes or dogs.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at August 22, 2013 09:55 AM (4df7R)

84 Damn Beat to the voucher line Stupid job

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 22, 2013 09:55 AM (dYf+Z)

Hollywood could do a movie, with Matt Damon playing Ulysses

Ull-why-se...? You-lie-sess...?

Matt Damon!

Posted by: Matt Damon at August 22, 2013 09:56 AM (NF2Bf)

Wolves will kill a coyote or dog.

Not sure if they'll fuck it first, or if they frown on that sort of fthing.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson at August 22, 2013 09:56 AM (x95s+)

87 We haz wild dogs in S. Carolina and have for millenia if the zoologists are to be believed . Carolina wild dog . You can look it up . We had one wander up out of the blue and adopt us . Best dog ever . Really smart ,trainable ,sweet , and yet protective . Supposedly related to the pariah dogs of Asia . Looks just like a dingo . Not particularly attractive, but hell , neither am I . Great dog .

Posted by: awkward davies at August 22, 2013 09:56 AM (WK8VM)

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 22, 2013 01:54 PM (l2max)

Are you talking about the dogs or the citizens?

Posted by: Tuco at August 22, 2013 09:56 AM (Pr6hk)

@77Maybe it's going to hurt some sensibilities, but really, wouldn't a mass hunt followed by a funeral pyre outside the city limits somewhere be the most realistic solution to this... considering it's broke-ass Detroit?

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A pyre? I'm sorry, but you're breaking all sorts of environmental regulations with the ash and soot that you're polluting the air with. I'm going to have to ask you to stop.

-- EPA

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 09:56 AM (UWFpX)

90 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 01:54 PM (4df7R)

I laughed so hard at this post. It's got such a sublime mix of despair and comedy.

Posted by: Heralder at August 22, 2013 09:57 AM (+xmn4)

62 The glamour shots are by a private citizen non-profit that's trying to save the dogs. The city can't even afford to cremate the dogs they euthanize.

---

Noble effort on their part...

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 22, 2013 09:57 AM (EGPJQ)

92 MadDog
Drudge covered it already

Just an Urban Prepper..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 22, 2013 09:57 AM (SfGRU)

93 Feel sorry for the dogs. The people, not so much.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2013 09:57 AM (q0G29)

94 If I had a son he would like like one of them.

Posted by: Bo at August 22, 2013 09:57 AM (bJm7W)

MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 01:54 PM (4df7R)

That has movie scene written all over it.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 22, 2013 09:57 AM (tVWQB)

96 As for Detroit, there is only one thing that conservatives should rally round:

Iowahawk's proposal to make the place a national park.

To preserve for future generations the example of what toxic race-baiting, open criminality in office, and union arrogance can accomplish to bring down a once great city.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 22, 2013 09:57 AM (gqT4g)

97 >>In a few years, these dogs will be in total control of old Detroit. That's when Robocop will hit the streets. Seriously, everyday I feel more and more like I am living in a collection of bad movies.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 09:57 AM (g1DWB)

98 I love dogs. I have had dogs all my life and will probably always have a dog. With that said, it is cruel to let dogs run wild. It is far kinder to euthanize a dog that you can no longer afford. However, many people can't even afford that. It is a shame and a scandal, but, just the latest in the long list of shames and scandals attributable to Barky.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 22, 2013 09:58 AM (kXoT0)

99 Damn
Beat to the voucher line

Stupid job

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 22, 2013 01:55 PM (dYf+Z)

Why haven't you quit and begun picking up your welfare bennies??!?!

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 09:58 AM (GQ8sn)

100 95 If I had a son he would like like one of them.
Posted by: Bo at August 22, 2013 01:57 PM (bJm7W)
Delicious?

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 22, 2013 09:58 AM (l2max)

101 "Soviet" is the adjective that best describes Detroit.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Spleen! Now with Oxidizers! at August 22, 2013 09:58 AM (hLRSq)

102

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 01:53 PM (/PCJa)

by the currently accepted standards of biology, (which admittedly have shifted.)

I believe the answer is "no."

Interesting side note, "Dog" is not a species, it's a subspecies, and there's only one. "Domesticated Dog" (canis domesticus)

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 09:58 AM (GaqMa)

103 oh those fuckers are dangerous running in packs like that..and so are the dogs

Posted by: Jeanne of the North at August 22, 2013 09:58 AM (GdalM)

104 If I had a son, he would taste like one of them

Posted by: Barky McBamastain at August 22, 2013 09:58 AM (Pr6hk)

105 As long as you get them with one shot and don't "f" around. Don't want them to suffer.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 22, 2013 09:58 AM (9U1OG)

106 my brother had a wolf/dog cross in Alaska

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 09:58 AM (zOTsN)

107 I hear dog pounds in the city are thinking of offering dog owners $25k in vouchers if they'll move there.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 22, 2013 01:41 PM (tVWQB)

pwned so hard

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 09:59 AM (GQ8sn)

108 And what right is that relative to humans? It's exactly the same right, sometimes in opposition just like any two other living things might have their rights in opposition. The bear has every right to try to eat the salmon, and the salmon has every right to try to get away. One of these will win, and one will lose. I'm not saying the dogs have some special right to kill people, or any such thing (in fact, I'm not sure how you jumped to that from my statement), just that it's kind of sad for them- and as far from "their fault" as it possibly could be. As for their right to live being determined by whether we allow it or not? No, they have a right to attempt to stay alive anyway. It's just that once we've decided they're going to die, there's not much they can do about it. Hunting does not take away the deer's right to try to stay alive; it just may not be able to succeed in its attempt.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 09:59 AM (/PCJa)

109 I laughed so hard at this post. It's got such a sublime mix of despair and comedy.

Posted by: Heralder at August 22, 2013 01:57 PM (+xmn4)

Right?? And delivered with that perfect Jinx the Cat signature deadpan.

That has movie scene written all over it.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 22, 2013 01:57 PM (tVWQB)

The only question is would the movie be a drama, or a comedy?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at August 22, 2013 09:59 AM (4df7R)

110 When the best thing about your town is the insane clown posse....packs of dogs is just the logical next step

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 22, 2013 09:59 AM (dYf+Z)

111

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 22, 2013 01:57 PM (SfGRU)

Hum. I guess I missed it.

Posted by: maddogg at August 22, 2013 09:59 AM (xWW96)

112 Didn't take too long 'fore I found out,
What people mean by down and out.

Posted by: Black Dog at August 22, 2013 09:59 AM (bufJH)

113 Time to Cowboy Up!* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T7ztdrQl38#t=36 *lyrics absolutely unrelated to Feral Detroit, but, it's a good song, with a relevant title

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 09:59 AM (IXrOn)

114 Interesting side note, "Dog" is not a species, it's a subspecies, and there's only one. "Domesticated Dog" (canis domesticus)

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 01:58 PM (GaqMa)

I thought it was canis familiaris?

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 10:00 AM (GQ8sn)

115

Re: Wolves and Coyotes : You know the wolves have moved in when the coyotes disappear.

The only wolf that will breed a coyote is a packless male, and the offspring will be killed by the first wolves they encounter.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2013 10:00 AM (x95s+)

116

@AllenG,

Whoops they changed it again. Canis Domesticus is no more.

It's no "Canis Lupas Familaris" which, by the way is a subspecies of grey wolf.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 10:00 AM (GaqMa)

117 Simple fix - legalize the dogs.

Posted by: Havedash at August 22, 2013 10:00 AM (F0WNa)

118

my brother had a wolf/dog cross in Alaska

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 01:58 PM (zOTsN)

Was it deaf and named Diefenbaker?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at August 22, 2013 10:00 AM (4df7R)

119 Having just read World War Z, the status of Detroit following a zombie plague is indistinguishable in this regard.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at August 22, 2013 10:00 AM (XrGnJ)

120 If I was alive, I would do a show about this

Posted by: Crocodile Hunter at August 22, 2013 10:00 AM (Pr6hk)

121 100. Easy answer T + XDs = I'm scared

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 22, 2013 10:01 AM (dYf+Z)

122 The big problem they are going to have in the coming years is checking disease among these and other domestic dogs.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2013 10:01 AM (x95s+)

123 If I was alive, I would be upset about the previous joke

Posted by: Steve Irwin at August 22, 2013 10:02 AM (Pr6hk)

124 I'm sure this is Bush's fault. Somehow.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 10:02 AM (zF6Iw)

125 no Soviet city was as bad as Detroit.

Detroit was created by leftist ideas carried out by Those Who Cannot be Mentioned. Or, in the alternate universe of the MFM, created by ..........

White Flight. Heh

Posted by: J. Albert Prufrock at August 22, 2013 10:02 AM (omBWL)

126 Detroit is a Ricky-Bobby throwaway joke at this point.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 22, 2013 10:02 AM (l2max)

127 Maybe it's going to hurt some sensibilities, but really, wouldn't a mass hunt followed by a funeral pyre outside the city limits somewhere be the most realistic solution to this... considering it's broke-ass Detroit?

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 22, 2013 01:54 PM (l2max)

----------------------------------------------

Why the dogs? The dogs are better citizens of (D)troit than the people are. If there's a hunt, it should be for the people who did this.

And, yes, let the bonfire burn bright.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2013 10:02 AM (q0G29)

128

What no Portuguese Water Dogs? Detroit hates fags.

Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 22, 2013 10:02 AM (oDCMR)

129 Today I want to talk about something serious: Packs of stray dogs that control most of the major cities in North America -- Ricky Bobby

Posted by: The Jotus at August 22, 2013 10:03 AM (cHHIh)

130 he used to race sled dogs believe it or not and he said one of them was a dog/wolf mix. Beautiful, but impossible to train

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 10:03 AM (zOTsN)

131 I thought it was canis familiaris?

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 02:00 PM (GQ8sn)

Canis lupus familiaris.

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2013 10:03 AM (LI48c)

132

Bush's fault, seriously you guys.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 22, 2013 10:03 AM (1Y+hH)

133 Wolves, Coyotes, and dogs are all so closely related that they can all interbreed. In fact, their children aren't sterile (which raises interesting species questions- such as: are Wolves and Coyotes really different species, or just different breeds or sub-species of the same base-species?).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 01:53 PM (/PCJa)

You have to define "species", which does not have a very solid definition; "naturally breeding" (in the wild) is my understanding of the current definition. (which does beg the definition of "naturally")

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 10:03 AM (sGtp+)

134 I bet you those wild female dogs like it just like Barky does

Posted by: Reggie Love at August 22, 2013 10:03 AM (Pr6hk)

135 If I had a son, he would taste like one of them So FLOTUS really IS a wookie!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 10:03 AM (b1/nQ)

136 Hey, who's complaining? Beats a pack of deathclaws. --- I take offense to that. My intellectually advanced brethren and I hate being compared to such vile things as irradiated scorpions and victims of the Forced Evolutionary Virus.

Posted by: Deathclaws of Vault 13 at August 22, 2013 10:03 AM (/Crba)

137 Stray dogs, they're not your friend...or they could be --Ricky Bobby

Posted by: The Jotus at August 22, 2013 10:04 AM (cHHIh)

138 (which does beg the definition of "naturally")

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 02:03 PM (sGtp+) ]

Oh God, DON'T TALK ABOUT NATURALLY BORN THINGS.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at August 22, 2013 10:04 AM (4df7R)

139 he used to race sled dogs believe it or not and he said one of them was a dog/wolf mix. Beautiful, but impossible to train You can purchase wolf/dog hybrids. My wife (before I met her) had one. I think it was the maximum legal limit (yes there is one) of % wolf. She said never again- when they teethe you lose furniture- like her couch.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 10:04 AM (/PCJa)

140 Why the dogs? The dogs are better citizens of (D)troit than the people are. If there's a hunt, it should be for the people who did this.

This.

Dogs are the bystanders here. They're simply a testament to the failure of the liberals who are in charge.

A dog's soul is pure. I would rather trust a dog than a Detroit govt worker.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 10:04 AM (GQ8sn)

141 125. 133. Of course it is Detroit just got Reggie bush, remember?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 22, 2013 10:04 AM (dYf+Z)

142 LET us go then, you and I, When the evening is spread out against the sky Like a patient etherized upon a table; Let us go, through certain half-deserted streets, The muttering retreats 5 Of restless nights in one-night cheap hotels And sawdust restaurants with oyster-shells: Streets that follow like a tedious argument Of insidious intent

Posted by: J. Albert Prufrock at August 22, 2013 10:04 AM (omBWL)

143 he used to race sled dogs believe it or not and he said one of them was a dog/wolf mix. Beautiful, but impossible to train Must have been mixed with cocker spaniel.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 10:04 AM (b1/nQ)

144

I thought it was canis familiaris?
Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 02:00 PM (GQ8sn)

Canis lupus familiaris.

Lupus? Is it Lupus!?

Posted by: George Costanza at August 22, 2013 10:04 AM (x95s+)

145 Maybe Philly will trade me to the Lions

Posted by: Ron Mexico at August 22, 2013 10:04 AM (Pr6hk)

146 117
@AllenG,

Whoops they changed it again. Canis Domesticus is no more.
It's no "Canis Lupas Familaris" which, by the way is a subspecies of grey wolf.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 02:00 PM (GaqMa)

--I think you were just confusing it with kittehs, which are Felis domesticus.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 10:05 AM (bufJH)

147 118 Simple fix - legalize the dogs.
Posted by: Havedash at August 22, 2013 02:00 PM (F0WNa)

No dog should be illegal!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 10:05 AM (v3pYe)

148 122 100. Easy answer
T + XDs = I'm scared

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 22, 2013 02:01 PM (dYf+Z)

Just say, "Moar time for family!"

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 10:05 AM (GQ8sn)

149 Oh, and something that should have gotten wider play in the last week but for some reason was overlooked:

President Barky's HUD is shoving $54M in "urban blight alleviation" funding to Detroit.

Of course, no one seriously believes that $54M in urban blight alleviation is going to do anything to fix a huge city which now consists ENTIRELY of urban blight and which has uncounted billions in debt and neglected infrastructure cost.

No, what this is is just Obama practicing straight-up African tribal politics. When you have political power in Africa, you hand out money to your tribe till the treasury's empty. That's what is going on here. It's not responsible use of the public fisc. It's just racial looting.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 22, 2013 10:05 AM (gqT4g)

150

We haz wild dogs in S. Carolina and have for millenia if the zoologists are to be believed .
Carolina wild dog . You can look it up .
We had one wander up out of the blue and adopt us .
Best dog ever . Really smart ,trainable ,sweet , and yet protective . Supposedly related to the pariah dogs of Asia . Looks just like a dingo .
Not particularly attractive, but hell , neither am I .
Great dog .

I was just about to mention the Carolina Dogs. I think I may have seen one once while driving up on the Blue Ridge Parkway years ago.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 22, 2013 10:06 AM (210xL)

151 obviously some of the sentamentalists here have never been bitten by a large dog.

Posted by: Jeanne of the North at August 22, 2013 10:06 AM (GdalM)

152 In a little noticed act, Obama gave Detroit something like $50 million last week to tear down buildings. Not even rebuild, just demolish the place. Lefty policies just keep on giving. Our money of course.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 10:06 AM (g1DWB)

153 The dogs will get more coverage

Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at August 22, 2013 10:06 AM (Pr6hk)

154 The second thread about bitches today.

Posted by: Butters Stosch at August 22, 2013 10:06 AM (od00y)

155

Seriously, everyday I feel more and more like I am living in a collection of bad movies.

With my luck, instead of Myra Breckenridge and Raquel Welch, I'll end up in Manos: The Hands of Fate.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 10:06 AM (zF6Iw)

156 I have friends with hybrids. Tough dogs to train, but no tougher than a Chesapeake (sp?).

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2013 10:06 AM (x95s+)

157 147. You mean felis dominatingfurass

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 22, 2013 10:06 AM (dYf+Z)

158 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:04 PM (4df7R)

I laughed. Mayhaps I should get back to work.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 10:06 AM (oY6Yp)

159 When stray dogs pack up, it is usually bad news. I had a pack of them go after my young German Shepard, eight or nine of them. I emptied a 9 shot .22 revolver into the group and those who could leave, did. Didn't come back.

Posted by: maddogg at August 22, 2013 10:07 AM (xWW96)

160 Why didn't the JEF adopt one of these -- I'm sure if he had a dog, it would look like all of detroit.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 10:07 AM (IXrOn)

161 My first day on-site is 9/3...moohoohahahahaha.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at August 22, 2013 10:07 AM (4p5/2)

162 I have been bitten by a dog, enough for stiches. The fact these dogs have gone wild is entirely the fault of their humans and not the dogs

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 10:07 AM (zOTsN)

163 Serious you guys are distracting from the real issue, the maternity of Trig Palin

Posted by: Andi Sullivain at August 22, 2013 10:07 AM (Pr6hk)

164 Yeah, we're gonna be 99% brownfield and The Wire, but damn, we're gonna have a kick-ass sports arena! Suck it, Windsor!

Posted by: Detroit at August 22, 2013 10:08 AM (bufJH)

165

The last dog that bit me was shot by its owner 5 minutes later.

'He won't bite anyone again.' - That old Rancher didn't fuck around.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2013 10:08 AM (x95s+)

166 The second thread about bitches today. Posted by: Butters Stosch at August 22, 2013 02:06 PM (od00y) ouch

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 10:08 AM (IXrOn)

167 --I think you were just confusing it with kittehs, which are Felis domesticus.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 02:05 PM (bufJH)

Felis Cattus, is your taxonomic nomenclature,

an endothermic quadruped carnivorous by nature?

Your visual, olfactory and auditory senses

contribute to your hunting skills, and natural defenses.

I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations,

a singular development of cat communications

that obviates your basic hedonistic predilection

for a rhythmic stroking of your fur, to demonstrate affection.

A tail is quite essential for your acrobatic talents;

you would not be so agile if you lacked its counterbalance.

And when not being utilized to aide in locomotion,

it often serves to illustrate the state of your emotion.

O Spot, the complex levels of behaviour you display

connote a fairly well-developed cognitive array.

And though you are not sentient, Spot, and do not comprehend,

I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend.

Posted by: Data at August 22, 2013 10:08 AM (LI48c)

168 In a little noticed act, Obama gave Detroit something like $50 million last week to tear down buildings. Not even rebuild, just demolish the place.

I've got it!

Instead of Yucca Mountain, lets just dump our nuclear waste in Detroit!

Win-win!

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 10:08 AM (GQ8sn)

169

The problem with allowing Detroit to literally go to the dogs is primarily the public health factor. That many stray, feral animals are a cauldron of disease just waiting to bust out. Not to mention the risk they pose to family pets and people, and to the local population of prey animals.

It's not the dogs' fault by any stretch, but it's why stray dog populations -- as with any animal overpopulation -- need to be kept down.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at August 22, 2013 10:08 AM (4df7R)

170 156. If I have to live in a bad movie ill take Better Off Dead That French chick was a cutie And Ricky was a bitch after his mom blew up

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 22, 2013 10:09 AM (dYf+Z)

171

126 "no Soviet city was as bad as Detroit."

I took my Russian distributor and his son to a Tiger's game and later to dinner at the Roma CafÃ©, behind Eastern Market.

He was interested and a bit happy that Detroit looked like shit because the time before I was in Moscow, it was 98 degrees and the peat bogs were on fire at the outskirts of the city, leaving a cloud of smoke lingering in the oppressive heat. At the time, he kept apologizing that none of the city's air conditioning, in the offices or hotels, were keeping up with the heat.

However, throughout the adventure to Detroit, we didn't see any roving packs of dogs. He had his camera ready, but no feral children either.

Guess it was an off day.

Posted by: jwest at August 22, 2013 10:09 AM (u2a4R)

172 I smoked some Cannabis Domesticus last night. That was some good shit. Oh, CANIS. Never mind.

Posted by: Emily Litella at August 22, 2013 10:09 AM (7ObY1)

173 Poor Kitteh's of Detroit.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 10:09 AM (IXrOn)

174 NRO's ad driven website can suck it. What a piece of shit.

Posted by: deadrody at August 22, 2013 10:09 AM (osIoP)

175 <Posted by: Data at August 22, 2013 02:08 PM (LI48c)>

Say, what was the name of your Klingon pal?

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 22, 2013 10:09 AM (KjlbF)

176 Instead of Yucca Mountain, lets just dump our nuclear waste in Detroit! Win-win! --- Pretty much. Detroit's already a barren, abandoned wasteland with chemical contamination for the most part, given the meth lab epidemic up there. Storing the waste there couldn't really hurt the city much more than it already has been hurt by Dem policies.

Posted by: Deathclaws of Vault 13 at August 22, 2013 10:09 AM (/Crba)

177 I heard on the radio that anthropologists go to Detroit to study how the homeless people tame the feral dogs, which has allowed them to see for themselves how Neolithic cultures tamed wolves and turned them into domesticated dogs.

So Detroit is essentially in the Stone Age.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 10:09 AM (TJw7K)

178 I'd say the first job of local government is to not allow packs of wild animals to walk your streets. Don't get a handle on that, and every other thing they do poorly doesn't really matter.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 22, 2013 10:10 AM (5npD/)

179 re 147:
"I think you were just confusing it with kittehs, which are Felis domesticus"

which my experience later grow into Felis Satanicus (and I have the furniture and carpets to prove it.)

Posted by: Mallfly, Cats from Hell Owner at August 22, 2013 10:10 AM (bJm7W)

180 Go ahead, help yourself to a dog or the charred out remains of a house, just make sure you pay the back taxes on it.

Posted by: Mayor Dave Bing at August 22, 2013 10:10 AM (xGt2P)

181 With my luck, instead of Myra Breckenridge and Raquel Welch, I'll end up in Manos: The Hands of Fate.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:06 PM (zF6Iw)

With Torgo and his bizarrely misshapen thighs.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at August 22, 2013 10:10 AM (4df7R)

182 Cripes! These DDR guys can manage to capture feral pit bulls who run in packs but I can't manage to wrangle the lone ultra-skittish aussie mix that escaped from me 3 months ago and still roams my neighborhood. Ugh.

Posted by: Jaws at August 22, 2013 10:10 AM (4I3Uo)

183 @170: True, MWR. But I'll take a pack of disease-ridden feral dogs over Detroit's ruling class any day of the week.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 22, 2013 10:11 AM (wtvvX)

184

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 01:59 PM (/PCJa)

I didn't jump to that, as much as I followed through a logical conclusion.

A "right to attempt to go on living" is a pretty nebulous this, is it not?

Rights imply duties upon others to respect those rights. Yes there are competing rights at times, but I really don't think that framework applies here.

I have precisely 0 duty to respect a feral dogs attempting to go on living.

This of course doesn't mean that I can go crazy and start killing every animal that crosses my sights, we have duties towards nature but they're born out of an entirely different area of moral theory than "rights" (stewardship most notably, property rights held by humans in many cases as well.)

Let me pitch a different idea: we've totally fucked up our moral thoughts towards animals to the point that they're so inconsistent and contradictory we should probably scrap every framework we've used in recent history and start all over.

The dogs are a nuisance, admittedly brought about by human fault, but that doesn't mean they don't need to be put down like any other invasive species we've introduced to other areas. (Snakes, Rabbits, etc.)

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 10:11 AM (GaqMa)

185 re 178: did Og need to join the union in order to chase wild chickens?

Posted by: Mallfly, Cats from Hell Owner at August 22, 2013 10:11 AM (bJm7W)

186 We own the skies.

Posted by: Cats of Detroit at August 22, 2013 10:11 AM (ZshNr)

187 I heard on the radio that anthropologists go to Detroit to study how the homeless people tame the feral dogs, which has allowed them to see for themselves how Neolithic cultures tamed wolves and turned them into domesticated dogs.

With a McDouble, the world's most perfect food.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 10:12 AM (GQ8sn)

188 And Ricky was a bitch after his mom blew up Dan Schneider Then he ended up on Head of the Class. And now he produces practically every shitty Tween series on Nickelodeon. He's rumored to be a big fan of using the casting couch to cast his nubile teen starlets.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 22, 2013 10:12 AM (7ObY1)

189 I am not saying the dogs should continue to run wild. Its cruel to them and any humans they come in contact with to do so. I just think its instructive

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 10:12 AM (zOTsN)

190 did Og need to join the union in order to chase wild chickens? Posted by: Mallfly, Cats from Hell Owner at August 22, 2013 02:11 PM (bJm7W) His cousin, Ott Og, half turtle half frog, is the Business agent so it shouldn't be a problem

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 22, 2013 10:13 AM (XIxXP)

191 I'm #1 and #3, where you at? look up

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 10:13 AM (IXrOn)

192 175 NRO's ad driven website can suck it. What a piece of shit.

Posted by: deadrody at August 22, 2013 02:09 PM (osIoP)

--I was amazed that nothing popped up during all those clicks on the slide show. The only time I visit there regularly is to read Steyn, and then even just clicking the '+' to enlarge the text brings a pop-up.

Posted by: Detroit at August 22, 2013 10:13 AM (bufJH)

193 189. Ewwwww Just ewwwwww

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 22, 2013 10:13 AM (dYf+Z)

194

With a McDouble, the world's most perfect food.

You can use Peanut Butter, too. But eventually they get wise to it.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 22, 2013 10:13 AM (x95s+)

195 Then he ended up on Head of the Class. And now he produces practically every shitty Tween series on Nickelodeon. He's rumored to be a big fan of using the casting couch to cast his nubile teen starlets.

I heard that but can't for one second believe it.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 10:13 AM (GQ8sn)

196 Obama DID save Detroit. He just never said for what species.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 22, 2013 10:13 AM (+Y1nh)

197 One thing about the dogs: They are a pack, not a herd.

Unlike the Democrats infesting the region...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 22, 2013 10:14 AM (wtvvX)

198

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 02:05 PM (bufJH)

It was apparently both for a while there.

The reclassification didn't happen until 1993. And apparently C. Domesticus and C. Familaris were both accepted prior to that.

I probably had a crappy textbook when I learned it that was out of date and stuck with the old Linnaeus classification because...easy!

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 10:14 AM (GaqMa)

199 This is what the SCOAMF meant by being "more like China." Eat. Dog. China. Yum. Free. Dog. In. Street.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 10:14 AM (IXrOn)

200 178 I heard on the radio that anthropologists go to Detroit to study how the homeless people tame the feral dogs, which has allowed them to see for themselves how Neolithic cultures tamed wolves and turned them into domesticated dogs.

So Detroit is essentially in the Stone Age.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 02:09 PM (TJw7K)

--So Coleman Young and Kwame Kilpatrick succeeded where Gen. Westmoreland failed.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 10:14 AM (bufJH)

201 That $50 million isn't going anywhere to help Detroit. It's going into someone's pockets.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 10:15 AM (GQ8sn)

202 The problem with allowing Detroit to literally go to the dogs is primarily the public health factor. That many stray, feral animals are a cauldron of disease just waiting to bust out. Not to mention the risk they pose to familypets and people, and to the local population of prey animals.

It's not the dogs' fault by any stretch, but it's why stray dog populations -- as with any animal overpopulation -- need to be kept down.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:08 PM (4df7R)

-------------------------------------------------------

Sorry. I have no sympathy for the people of (D)troit. Let the diseases wipe the vermin out. Then save as many dogs as possible.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2013 10:15 AM (q0G29)

203 notice that the vast majority of the dogs in the slide show are pitbulls, boxers, other "bully breeds", rottweiller mixes, and shepard mixes.

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 10:15 AM (zOTsN)

204 "I feel for the good folks volunteering for DDR. They're to good to be working in such a cesspool."

Was anyone elso struck by the fact that all of the dog rescue volunteers appear to be white? I didn't know there were that many Ice People left in all of Detroit.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 22, 2013 10:16 AM (gqT4g)

205 Yeah, I kinda expect the yappy little ones to become food first.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at August 22, 2013 10:16 AM (4p5/2)

206 They have literally let loose the hounds of hell.

Good hunting, Fido.....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 22, 2013 10:16 AM (wtvvX)

207 and you wouldn't even have to start the fire...on any given day, you can't swing a dead cat (pardon the phrase) without hitting a car fire

Serious You Guys, at a previous job, my commute took me through a corner of Detroit (Rock City) for about ten miles. Not a day went by that I did not see a burning car, dumpster, house, or building. Every.Day.

Posted by: AltonJackson and The Middle Class at August 22, 2013 10:17 AM (9HP5k)

208 Rights imply duties upon others to respect those rights. Yes there are competing rights at times, but I really don't think that framework applies here.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 02:11 PM (GaqMa)

For the Christian, man has a duty of stewarding nature, so that does imply some set of rights for animals.

However, any such rights under that framework are trumped by man's right to not be mauled by a wild animal.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 10:17 AM (v3pYe)

209 Let's duct tape a few packages of hot dogs to Major Hassan and drop him off in Dogtown, USA.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 22, 2013 10:17 AM (ZshNr)

210 Sorry. I have no sympathy for the people of (D)troit. Let the diseases wipe the vermin out. Then save as many dogs as possible.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2013 02:15 PM (q0G29)

I'm not talking about just Detroit. I mean in general. If the breeding population were to explode, eventually they're going to start pushing out from the city limits.

I'd like to save as many as possible, too. But that is a LOT of dogs, and a fair number of them probably can't be saved.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at August 22, 2013 10:17 AM (4df7R)

211 All Dogs Go to Hell? What the fuck?!

Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2013 10:18 AM (Hx2XA)

212 Life After People. This weeks show on History was what will happen to the swarm of Locusts spread over all the mid west and Air Force One will starts a massive fire at the airport that could spread to all of DC.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at August 22, 2013 10:18 AM (xqZMF)

213 It was apparently both for a while there.
The reclassification didn't happen until 1993. And apparently C. Domesticus and C. Familaris were both accepted prior to that.
I probably had a crappy textbook when I learned it that was out of date and stuck with the old Linnaeus classification because...easy!

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 02:14 PM (GaqMa)

--When I was in 4th, 5th and 6th grades, I was obsessed with Australian fauna and had actually memorized (and still remember) the names of several marsupials and the platypus (Ornithorhynchus anatius). Unfortunately, I think a lot of those names are dated now. :-(

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 10:19 AM (bufJH)

214 "With a McDouble, the world's most perfect food."

No joke - the McDouble works. The dog I'm trying to catch has been getting half a McD every night (plus other stuff) - verified by a Trail Camera. Credit to Moron Barry O'Bama for the tip.

Hopefully at some point, the dog will slip up and get herself netted. I'm getting tired of stalking her furry ass.

Posted by: Jaws at August 22, 2013 10:19 AM (4I3Uo)

215

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (v3pYe)

And see I would pitch that stewardship is an entirely different thing.

It does not, for example, grant trees any rights. Yet we do have duties towards them.

I blame anthropomorphization and the post-domestication era for completely upending our understanding of our relationships to animals by making it ever less logical.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 10:20 AM (GaqMa)

216 The Sausage Egg McMuffin packs a protein punch too

sausage patty, an egg, and a slice of cheese

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 10:21 AM (8sCoq)

217 No joke - the McDouble works. The dog I'm trying to catch has been getting half a McD every night (plus other stuff) - verified by a Trail Camera. Credit to Moron Barry O'Bama for the tip.

Well there's your problem.

If you want to lure it back, tempt it with Fosters instead.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2013 10:23 AM (SY2Kh)

218 Solution: reintroduce wolves, black bears, and bobcats to metro Detroit.

Posted by: kevlarchick at August 22, 2013 10:24 AM (+dlqq)

219 I'm not talking about just Detroit. I mean in general. If the breeding population were to explode, eventually they're going to start pushing out from the city limits.

I'd like to save as many as possible, too. But that is a LOT of dogs, and a fair number of them probably can't be saved.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (4df7R)

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By the looks of many of those dogs, they aren't going to make it through another (D)troit winter. Many won't make it to winter. That is, unless, they aquire a taste for human flesh. And for that, I'd buy popcorn.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2013 10:24 AM (q0G29)

220 By the looks of many of those dogs, they aren't going to make it through another (D)troit winter. Many won't make it to winter. That is, unless, they aquire a taste for human flesh. And for that, I'd buy popcorn.

As entertaining as that sounds, that will be a big problem if it were to happen.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 10:26 AM (GQ8sn)

221 Seems like every law abiding resident of Detroit should have access to a legal firearm, and the ammunition and training to use it.
That way they can protect themselves from the roaming packs of animals.

Yeh...I left it vague like that on purpose.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 22, 2013 10:27 AM (SfGRU)

222 Seems like every law abiding resident of Detroit should have access to a legal firearm, and the ammunition and training to use it.
That way they can protect themselves from the roaming packs of animals.

Yeh...I left it vague like that on purpose.

How about $25,000 in vouchers good at any gun store?

You could kit up nicely with that sum.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 10:28 AM (GQ8sn)

223 And see I would pitch that stewardship is an entirely different thing. It does not, for example, grant trees any rights. Yet we do have duties towards them.

What duty do we have to trees, that cannot be construed as a right for trees?

Rights are intrinsically related to duties. If I have a duty to someone or something; that is related to that someone or something having a right to demand an action from me.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 10:29 AM (sGtp+)

224 But they are still arguing about how the city can make it without bankruptcy. Who would have thought that decades of leadership by a communist like Coleman Young, and the hip hop mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick, could destroy a city.

Posted by: ejo at August 22, 2013 10:29 AM (GXvSO)

225 Just think - Will Ferrell jokes about this in the outakes of Talladega Nights. "Packs of wild dogs running today's cities" Who knew he was describing a liberal utopia.

Posted by: Reality Man at August 22, 2013 10:32 AM (mKsbJ)

226 "How about $25,000 in vouchers good at any gun store?"

That could work.

Of course, I'm disappointed that some outfit like "Urban Productions" hasn't come up with a reality/survival show based in Detroit.

Or...."Survivor, Detroit"

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 22, 2013 10:33 AM (SfGRU)

227 Of course, I'm disappointed that some outfit like "Urban Productions" hasn't come up with a reality/survival show based in Detroit.

Any of those survival reality shows wouldn't last a full season in Detroit. Why? Everyone would be dead by the second episode.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 10:35 AM (GQ8sn)

228 Just walk a stray.

Posted by: Lord Humongous at August 22, 2013 10:38 AM (dvRYt)

229 So sad.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at August 22, 2013 10:53 AM (KzHNA)

230 We mentioned fiction writer Loren Estleman in another thread. It occurs to me that he lives in Michigan, though (sensibly) not in Detroit. However, he writes about the city a lot, both about its past -- the '20s, '50s, and '60s -- and in his present-day, long-running series about hardboiled private investigator Amos Walker.

His books have always made Detroit sound like a hellhole. I wonder how, or if, he can continue the Walker series with Detroit in its present state? Is Amos Walker going to have to dodge wild dogs now?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 22, 2013 12:11 PM (BDU/a)

231 Come to think of it, the stuff filmed in Detroit for the "Eight Mile" movie depressed the hell out of me. And that was only with Eminem on screen.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 22, 2013 12:14 PM (BDU/a)

232 And the Humane Society rightfully critized O for getting another pedigree dog. He should have gone to a shelter.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 22, 2013 01:00 PM (KL49F)

233 Hey serious you guys that's racist... oh wait they're actually dogs.

Posted by: Neo at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (7gZdx)

234

Has anybody seen the movie Wolfen??

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 22, 2013 03:16 PM (D1p3J)

235 I HATE people who abuse children and pets!!

It's not the financial failure of Detroit that caused this, it's the terrible people who live there and have been rendered savages by liberalism.

South L.A. has the same problem: http://tinyurl.com/lxubhyo

Posted by: PJ at August 22, 2013 07:51 PM (ZWaLo)

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