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January 23, 2013

Injectable Foam Expands Inside Wounds, Stopping Bleeding
— Ace

One thing I liked in Dredd (among numerous things) was the tire-repair-style gel he used to plug his wound (followed by a quick stapling of it via a medical-staple gun).

Not a super novel idea. But neat.

It's so un-novel, in fact, it's real, or close to it.

You can tourniquet an arm or leg but you can't tourniquet a headwound, or neckwound, or chestwound, or gutwound. Only a surgeon can dig in, find the ruptured artery, and clamp it.

Thus, an injectable foam might soon stop bleeding from such injuries (long enough to get the wounded man to a surgeon, at least).

To address this issue, Arsenal Medical in Watertown, Massachusetts, has designed a substance that fills the abdominal cavity and forms a solid foam that can slow internal bleeding. It starts with two liquids. Â“Mixing those two liquid components causes a chemical reaction that drives the material throughout the abdominal cavity,Â” says Upma Sharma, head of the foam-technology research at Arsenal. The idea is that the foam would put enough pressure on the site of the injury to slow bleeding for up to three hours so that the soldier could be transported to a hospital. There, a surgeon would remove the block of foam and tend to the soldierÂ’s wounds."

Based on my reading, that's only for gut-wounds, but I guess they'll move on to the other sorts of wounds eventually.

Via Instapundit.

More: Unvetted, but tsrblke sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

It works for gut wounds, because those are the bulk of wounds involving internal bleeding with lots of open space and are really dangerous.
The other two areas you see a lot of internal bleeding that's dangerous are brain (not a lot of workable space) and Lungs (lots of workable space...that's used for breathing.
You do get internal bleeding in other places (arms, legs, etc.) that's bruising, it's sometimes dangerous, sometimes not, but as pointed out you can always sacrifice the leg/arm/whatever, to save the body (not so much with "everything below the waist."
For external bleeding (i.e. cuts, slashes gashes) you have the tourniquet option for really large damage or various styles of things like high-tech band-aids and medical glue for small to medium sized things.

Unnecessary?

What if you don't have time to bleed?
-- Jesse Ventura

Posted by: Ace at 12:49 PM | Comments (147)
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1 How would they dissolve the foam? Perhaps I should read the link.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 23, 2013 12:50 PM (evdj2)

2 Hope it works and does not cause bigger problems than it is meant to solve.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 23, 2013 12:50 PM (kXoT0)

3 I think the trick would be getting the block of foam, which encased several organs, out of the body while leaving said organs in place.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 23, 2013 12:51 PM (3ETnh)

4 Fix-a-flat might work.

Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2013 12:51 PM (HtUkt)

5 Works until you block the diaphragm.

Can we try some of this on select congresscritters?

Posted by: Dastardly Dan at January 23, 2013 12:52 PM (2iVM3)

6 I think you could use a tampon. Unless Romney wins in the future.

Posted by: tasker at January 23, 2013 12:53 PM (r2PLg)

7 "Injectable Foam Expands Inside Wounds, Stopping Bleeding"

***

But can it melt steel??

Posted by: dananjcon at January 23, 2013 12:53 PM (jvd3N)

8 I'd like to try some of that shit in my Dewars.

Posted by: John Boehner (R) at January 23, 2013 12:53 PM (QKKT0)

9 This isn't new, I've been using Araldite to stem internal bleeding for years...

Posted by: Stephen Potter at January 23, 2013 12:54 PM (pv5J7)

10 Hope it works and does not cause bigger problems than it is meant to solve. Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 23, 2013 04:50 PM (kXoT0) Ummm, where do the organs go? I mean, I know they're malleable and stuff but being smushed for a few hours can't be good. Of course, bleeding out from a gut shot is worse so there is that.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 23, 2013 12:54 PM (VtjlW)

11 Why, oh, why, did they not try it on St. Hillary's head injury, thusly saving her from needless pain and suffering. Not to mention the IQ points the foam would give the billowing cavities in her noggin.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 23, 2013 12:54 PM (kXoT0)

12 Whenever I play paint ball I arm myself with sanitary pads all over my body --softens the blow. Only problem is the sweat accumulates and starts to weigh you down. I really only went once.

Posted by: tasker at January 23, 2013 12:55 PM (r2PLg)

13 You can tourniquet an arm or leg but you can't tourniquet a headwound, or neckwound, or chestwound, or gutwound. Tampon.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2013 12:55 PM (80/E+)

14 Do you guys need any other feminine under armor tips? That's what I thought.

Posted by: tasker at January 23, 2013 12:55 PM (r2PLg)

15 I think the trick would be getting the block of foam, which encased several organs, out of the body while leaving said organs in place.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 23, 2013 04:51 PM (3ETnh)

It's nickname in the operating room is a "turkey bag" used in major bowel surgery.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 23, 2013 12:55 PM (mETGQ)

16 were you treated with injectable foam? did you suffer any medical problem afterwards? you might be entitled to compensation! call the law offices of...

Posted by: mallfly at January 23, 2013 12:56 PM (bJm7W)

17 They make that stuff that plugs holes in car radiators. You just pour it in. Why can't the wounded guy just drink some of that?

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at January 23, 2013 12:56 PM (QKKT0)

18 I have read that troops carry tampons to put in gunshot wounds to stop or slow the bleeding.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 23, 2013 12:56 PM (kXoT0)

19 my mother could heal wounds--with spit, cotton swabs, and Bactine

Posted by: sierra five at January 23, 2013 12:56 PM (Dll6b)

20 We already have bandages that will expand in large wounds to stop bleeding. And they require surgical removal. But they don't work for arterial wounds. Plugging those is about more than just sealing the exit hole. You would need to coagulate this particular artery somehow. Very hard with it under pressure.

Posted by: Andrew at January 23, 2013 12:56 PM (HS3dy)

21 8 I'd like to try some of that shit in my Dewars.

Posted by: John Boehner (R) at January 23, 2013 04:53 PM (QKKT0)

For a moment there, I though you said you shit your drawers.

Which is completely plausible.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 23, 2013 12:56 PM (jvd3N)

22 Dredd was first played by Sylvester Stallone, who also starred in Demolition Man, which showed a technology using injected foam to stabilize and protect car occupants during a collision. I'm just pointing out the amazing symmetry.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 23, 2013 12:56 PM (mOyDx)

23 This would be great but lets give credit to the tremendous job our Army/Air Force Medics and Navy Corpsmen do and then the Drs at the FOBs. If your injured and the Medics/Corpsmen get you to a FOB, your survival rate is in the Mid to high 90%.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2013 12:56 PM (jE38p)

24 Ace,

It works for gut wounds, because those are the bulk of wounds involving internal bleeding with lots of open space and are really dangerous
The other two areas you see a lot of internal bleeding that's dangerous are brain (not a lot of workable space) and Lungs (lots of workable space...that's used for breathing.

You do get internal bleeding in other places (arms, legs, etc.) that's bruising, it's sometimes dangerous, sometimes not, but as pointed out you can always sacrifice the leg/arm/whatever, to save the body (not so much with "everything below the waist."

For external bleeding (i.e. cuts, slashes gashes) you have the tourniquet option for really large damage or various styles of things like high-tech band-aids and medical glue for small to medium sized things.

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 23, 2013 12:57 PM (W8k4K)

25 ...if you're approved.

Posted by: Obamacare Medical Panel at January 23, 2013 12:57 PM (FcR7P)

"Hope it works and does not cause bigger problems than it is meant to solve."

If the history of military medical tech is any indication, it'll do both. Then smart people will take those lessons and make adjustments. Example: Quik Clot powder was a similar Big Deal when it first came out, but it often caused burns and gummed up wounds for the surgeons to have to clean out. You didn't want it getting loose and blowing in your eyes either.

It has since evolved to the point where it's impregnated into pressure bandages at the correct rate to avoid all those problems. It's also saved hundreds and hundreds of our guys and gals in the sandbox.

Posted by: Jaws at January 23, 2013 12:57 PM (4I3Uo)

27 I was not aware they did that. Sort of like some of the 9/11 widows, huh?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 23, 2013 04:36 PM (kXoT0)

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They did say Hillary had a concussion. Maybe they haven't removed the foam yet.

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 12:57 PM (U9S0G)

This is probably the same stuff they use to mold posrnstar veejers.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2013 12:57 PM (tDTwV)

29 Wasn't something like this shown in use near the end of Serenity, during the holding action against the Reavers?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Meadow Party 2016 at January 23, 2013 12:57 PM (GBXon)

30 I have read that troops carry tampons to put in gunshot wounds to stop or slow the bleeding.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 23, 2013 04:56 PM (kXoT0)

some did--I did--a long time ago. Unless you were pals with QM guys or medics, it was a good idea

Posted by: sierra five at January 23, 2013 12:58 PM (Dll6b)

31 is this tampon technology? or Stuff-It! technology?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 23, 2013 12:58 PM (ZgBZU)

32 An article about Metal and now Expanding Foam ,
Is this the Ace Hardware blog ?

I have long suspected this considering the various
sizes of nuts within the blog...

Posted by: American Dawg at January 23, 2013 12:58 PM (trA4n)

33 >>>How would they dissolve the foam? i think they surgically remove it. They're obviously doing major surgery on the guy anyway.

Posted by: ace at January 23, 2013 12:58 PM (LCRYB)

34 Ummm, where do the organs go? I mean, I know they're malleable and stuff but being smushed for a few hours can't be good.

Ahem. Our product has been clinically shown not to smush any organs. Not excessively, anyway.

Posted by: The BeaverPro Corp. Public Relations Dept. at January 23, 2013 12:58 PM (QKKT0)

35 Side effects may include dizziness, loss of appetite, shortness of breath, sudden death and dry mouth.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 23, 2013 12:58 PM (evdj2)

36 and you know those lawsuits will drag in the deep pockets firms who only made the chemicals the foam was made out of.

Posted by: mallfly at January 23, 2013 12:58 PM (bJm7W)

37 8 I'd like to try some of that shit in my Dewars. Posted by: John Boehner (R) at January 23, 2013 04:53 PM (QKKT0) --- I thought you said you'd like to "try some shit in your drawers," and lol'd.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 23, 2013 12:59 PM (1FLBb)

Geez. Wrong comment. BUT, what does it matter?

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 12:59 PM (U9S0G)

39 Wonder if the shit gets you high?

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at January 23, 2013 12:59 PM (jvd3N)

40 I have read that troops carry tampons to put in gunshot wounds to stop or slow the bleeding. Tampons & maxi-pads are probably in a lot of first responder volunteer's med kits. Cheap & fairly sterile.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2013 12:59 PM (80/E+)

41 should there be a 'u' in that 'mold'? or is that too British?

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2013 12:59 PM (tDTwV)

42 O/T Dem female questioner to Hillary-- "I'm curious!"

Posted by: tasker at January 23, 2013 12:59 PM (r2PLg)

43 (long enough to get the wounded man to a surgeon, at least).

SEXIST!!!

Posted by: LEON PANETTA at January 23, 2013 12:59 PM (p/cQy)

44 I'd like to try some of that shit in my Dewars. Posted by: John Boehner (R) at January 23, 2013 04:53 PM (QKKT0) ** For a moment there, I though you said you shit your drawers. Which is completely plausible. Al? Al Roker? Is that you?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2013 01:00 PM (80/E+)

45 Does it work as well as Fix-a-Flat in a can??

Posted by: soothsayer at January 23, 2013 01:00 PM (KwX0v)

46 Hope it works and does not cause bigger problems than it is meant to solve.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 23, 2013 04:50 PM (kXoT0)

You know if I was easier to do, maybe we could work out the kinks first. (But we'll work some out, hopefully.)

Posted by: Animal Research at January 23, 2013 01:00 PM (W8k4K)

47 An Obama donor is getting funding for a similar project to the tune of $45,000,000 in initial funding. Their plan is to train sea monkeys to patch internal injuries. Each soldier will be equipped with one 2"x2" packet containing about 100,000 highly trained sea monkeys in powder form. Like in Star Trek, with the dodecahedron thingies. _

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2013 01:01 PM (RuUvx)

48 22 Dredd was first played by Sylvester Stallone, who also starred in Demolition Man, which showed a technology using injected foam to stabilize and protect car occupants during a collision.

I'm just pointing out the amazing symmetry.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 23, 2013 04:56 PM (mOyDx)

And lets not forget, in which also the only resturant was Taco Bell, which as you know has properties to remove any bowel blockages one flaming burrito at a time.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 23, 2013 01:01 PM (t06LC)

>>An article about Metal and now Expanding Foam ,
Is this the Ace Hardware blog ?

Cross Branding opportunities abound.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2013 01:01 PM (tDTwV)

I have read that troops carry tampons to put in gunshot wounds to stop or slow the bleeding.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 23, 2013 04:56 PM (kXoT0)

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The bandage that we had to always carry with us on our web gear really wasn't more than an oversized kotex.

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 01:01 PM (U9S0G)

51

With our free health care we can lower the cost by encasing the whole patient in foam and let nature take it's course.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 23, 2013 01:01 PM (mETGQ)

52 The US military already uses a bandage which applies pressure to the wound and can be applied to large and complex wounds with one hand, which stops the person from bleeding out. People who would have bled out and died are surviving. It was developed in Israel. Damn Jews

Posted by: thunderb at January 23, 2013 01:01 PM (Dnbau)

53 And be sure to try our time-saving companion product, Taxidermist In A Can!

Posted by: The BeaverPro Corp. Public Relations Dept. at January 23, 2013 01:02 PM (QKKT0)

54
I don't think the foam has the capacity to smush the organs, it just fills space like the foam in a can insulation stuff. If hardened it should come out in one piece.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 23, 2013 01:02 PM (p/cQy)

55 I have read that troops carry tampons to put in gunshot wounds to stop or slow the bleeding. Anyone else combine that with today's edict for women in combat and picture a horrible ad hoc usage?

Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2013 01:03 PM (FcR7P)

56 Pfft. I've been injecting goo into gashes for years. Stops bleeding for about 9 months.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2013 01:03 PM (SY2Kh)

57 These are not the medical advancements you are looking for /jedi wave/

Posted by: Sucking Chest Wound at January 23, 2013 01:04 PM (RuUvx)

58 23 --- ".... lets give credit to the tremendous job our Army/Air Force Medics and Navy Corpsmen do and then the Drs at the FOBs. If your injured and the Medics/Corpsmen get you to a FOB, your survival rate is in the Mid to high 90%." Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2013 04:56 PM (jE38p) AMEN.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 23, 2013 01:04 PM (C8mVl)

59 It was developed in Israel. Yeah, the Israelis make good stuff. I bought one of those injured personnel carrying straps from them recently. It's one of those things that when you see it, you wonder why this wasn't thought of a thousand years ago.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 23, 2013 01:04 PM (evdj2)

60 The US militaryalready uses a bandage which applies pressure to the wound and can be applied to large and complex wounds with one hand, which stops the person from bleeding out. People who would have bled out and died are surviving.It was developed in Israel. Damn Jews Posted by: thunderb at January 23, 2013 05:01 PM (Dnbau) The Emergency Bandage or Israeli bandage is a specially designed, first-aid device that is used to stop bleeding from hemorrhagic wounds caused by traumatic injuries in pre-hospital emergency situations.[1][2] First used for saving lives during a NATO peacekeeping operation in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the bandages were successfully used during operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom.[1][2] The emergency bandages were nicknamed "Israeli bandage" by American soldiers,[3] and have been "the bandages of choice for the US Army and special forces."[2] Israeli bandages were included in the first aid kits of emergency personnel and first responders at the 2011 Tucson shooting, and were used to treat some victims of the shooting.[1][4] The bandage was invented by an Israeli military medic, Bernard Bar-Natan. The bandages are being manufactured in Lod, Israel, by First Care Products Ltd.[1]

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2013 01:05 PM (jE38p)

Super glue is pretty good if you want a quick and dirty liquid stitch.

Posted by: Invictus at January 23, 2013 01:05 PM (OQpzc)

62
So their's foam a medical version of crazy glue up next?
Duct tape.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 23, 2013 01:05 PM (mETGQ)

63 and Hollowpoint wins

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2013 01:05 PM (tDTwV)

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 23, 2013 05:01 PM (t06LC)

That's all u remember from that movie?

Posted by: Sandra Bullock teh hot in tight black pants at January 23, 2013 01:05 PM (sHqf1)

65 Well, I guess the "grilling" is over. Hillary still looks as nasty and raw as she always has.

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 01:05 PM (U9S0G)

66 Hollowpoint always wins

Posted by: Jaws at January 23, 2013 01:06 PM (4I3Uo)

67 Hollowpoint always wins

Posted by: Jaws at January 23, 2013 01:06 PM (4I3Uo)

68 Hillary still looks as nasty and raw as she always has. Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 05:05 PM (U9S0G) Yeah bill must have one strong constitution?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2013 01:06 PM (jE38p)

69 Hillary still looks as nasty and raw as she always has. Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 05:05 PM (U9S0G) Yeah bill must have one strong constitution?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2013 01:06 PM (jE38p)

70 Hollowpoint always wins Dood!

Posted by: Flechette at January 23, 2013 01:06 PM (evdj2)

71 Hollowpoint always wins Dood!

Posted by: Flechette at January 23, 2013 01:06 PM (evdj2)

72 should put an Israeli bandage on that

Posted by: thunderb at January 23, 2013 01:07 PM (Dnbau)

73 should put an Israeli bandage on that

Posted by: thunderb at January 23, 2013 01:07 PM (Dnbau)

Hillary is done with her testimony.

I think a lot of republican congressmen are gathering around her for autographs right now.

Where is that fucking Sweet Meteor of Death when you need it?

Posted by: jwest at January 23, 2013 01:07 PM (ZDsRL)

Hillary is done with her testimony.

I think a lot of republican congressmen are gathering around her for autographs right now.

Where is that fucking Sweet Meteor of Death when you need it?

Posted by: jwest at January 23, 2013 01:07 PM (ZDsRL)

Where is the outrage? Saving a life is playing God, and only God can play God. He can even play gods if, say, like you had a play about the Greek pantheon, God could play the god Zeus or even Hera. God could play mortals, but it would be a hard role and if he nailed it -- which he would, of course -- God would run the risk of being typecast. NObody can play GOD though.

Posted by: An anonymous talent agent in L.A. at January 23, 2013 01:07 PM (nCwW1)

78 Remember in PREDETOR when he MIXED sheetrock with GOO to stop THE bleeding?

Posted by: Boskwing Plover at January 23, 2013 01:07 PM (n2K+4)

79 Remember in PREDETOR when he MIXED sheetrock with GOO to stop THE bleeding?

Posted by: Boskwing Plover at January 23, 2013 01:07 PM (n2K+4)

80 64
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 23, 2013 05:01 PM (t06LC)

!

That's all u remember from that movie?

Posted by: Sandra Bullock teh hot in tight black pants at January 23, 2013 05:05 PM (sHqf1)

In 1993 I hadn't hit puberty yet. Such matters weren't much of a concern.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 23, 2013 01:08 PM (t06LC)

81 64
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 23, 2013 05:01 PM (t06LC)

!

That's all u remember from that movie?

Posted by: Sandra Bullock teh hot in tight black pants at January 23, 2013 05:05 PM (sHqf1)

In 1993 I hadn't hit puberty yet. Such matters weren't much of a concern.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 23, 2013 01:08 PM (t06LC)

82 So their's foam a medical version of crazy glue up next?
Duct tape.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 23, 2013 05:05 PM (mETGQ)

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Duct tape. It'll fix anything. Actually, as a field expedient it could be practical in some instances.

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 01:08 PM (U9S0G)

83 So their's foam a medical version of crazy glue up next?
Duct tape.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 23, 2013 05:05 PM (mETGQ)

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Duct tape. It'll fix anything. Actually, as a field expedient it could be practical in some instances.

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 01:08 PM (U9S0G)

84 The bandage that we had to always carry with us on our web gear really wasn't more than an oversized kotex. Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 05:01 PM (U9S0G)

Yes, the article I read said that the tampons were used more on through and through shots in the arm or thigh because they are the perfect size and shape to fit the wound and they are designed, to put it delicately, absorb the same sort of fluids. You put one tampon in the entrance wound, one or two in the exit wound, and put a pressure bandage around the whole thing until the injured could be treated by medical personnel.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 23, 2013 01:08 PM (kXoT0)

85 What if you don't have time to bleed?

Posted by: Jesse Ventura at January 23, 2013 01:09 PM (sftcY)

86 Now, them poultices be laced with feathermoss and mustard root. Mind you drop water on 'em occasional and keep 'em damp.

You can pay me when you see me again, Josey Wales.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 23, 2013 01:09 PM (8sCoq)

87 Sock off,

Wow a shout out update.
Erg, cool! FWIW, my human experience is fairly limited, but anatomy being fairly similar across species, I have dissected more mice than the vast majority of you have seen and I've killed an order of magnitude more than I've dissected. (And I've caused internal bleeding a few of those mice and would have loved to have some of this foam.)

I've also injected large amounts of water into the abdominal cavity to flush for macrophages. (It's really weird when you do it, you strip the skin and fur leaving only the smooth muscle, then inflate the thing like a balloon.) Lacerated a few livers that way.

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 23, 2013 01:10 PM (W8k4K)

88 Yes, the article I read said that the tampons were used more on through and through shots in the arm or thigh because they are the perfect size and shape to fit the wound and they are designed, to put it delicately, absorb the same sort of fluids.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 23, 2013 05:08 PM (kXoT0)

>>>
>>
>
>For some reason, I figured you as an expert on bloody slits.

Posted by: An anonymous talent agent in L.A. at January 23, 2013 01:10 PM (nCwW1)

89 Duct tape. It'll fix anything. Actually, as a field expedient it could be practical in some instances.

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 05:08 PM (U9S0G)

I forgot staples.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 23, 2013 01:10 PM (mETGQ)

90 >should put an Israeli bandage on that

Posted by: thunderb at January 23, 2013 05:07 PM (Dnbau)

I have one of those in the 1st aid kit on my motorcycle

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 23, 2013 01:10 PM (8sCoq)

91 Duct tape. It'll fix anything.

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 05:08 PM (U9S0G)

> Might I suggest a use of it for you?

Posted by: An anonymous talent agent in L.A. at January 23, 2013 01:11 PM (nCwW1)

92 Injectable foam can't melt steel!

Posted by: Some Truther Jackinape at January 23, 2013 01:11 PM (LUnTP)

93 I hear the Arab Bandage has nails, rat fecus, and TNT in it?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2013 01:11 PM (jE38p)

94 >>>Thus, an injectable foam might soon stop bleeding from such injuries (long enough to get the wounded man to a surgeon, at least).

Apparently the fact that Celox is available to the public has gone unnoticed by you. I'll give you a quick update. Reacts with blood, turns it to jello like *blam*, stops bleeding, even if you are a hemophiliac, even if it is an major arterial bleed. Here is the injectable type http://amzn.to/V7TGBQ

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 23, 2013 01:12 PM (0q2P7)

>>I have one of those in the 1st aid kit on my motorcycle

You should just carry a small cooler of ice for your organs.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 23, 2013 01:12 PM (tDTwV)

96 Predator used the CERAMIC TILE

Posted by: soothsayer at January 23, 2013 01:12 PM (0w+w3)

97 I'll give you a pill for that

Posted by: the JEF at January 23, 2013 01:13 PM (Dnbau)

98 Now, them poultices be laced with feathermoss and mustard root. Mind you drop water on 'em occasional and keep 'em damp.

You can pay me when you see me again, Josey Wales.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 23, 2013 05:09 PM (8sCoq)

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This was in the era of the civil war and the wound soldiers feared the most was being gut-shot. Nothing anyone could do. It was a bad way to die.

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 01:13 PM (U9S0G)

99 I've got a supply of Celox and a medical staple gun in my apocalypse survival stash.

Posted by: polyhomer at January 23, 2013 01:13 PM (m2CN7)

100 Those assholes act as if the steel, all at once, should have melted and the building collapse into a puddle of molten metal. They also fail to acknowledge the heat at which other combustibles within the fire can burn. What a bunch of freaking loonies.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2013 01:13 PM (piMMO)

101

So google is going to host a fireside chat with Biden on gun control.

Alex Jones may have just got off the hook for most damage to own side...

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 23, 2013 01:14 PM (t06LC)

102 The bandage was invented by an Israeli military medic, Bernard Bar-Natan. The bandages are being manufactured in Lod, Israel, by First Care Products Ltd. They also make a pretty good product that makes the holes in the first place. Uzi anyone?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2013 01:14 PM (80/E+)

103 Hillary still looks as nasty and raw as she always has. Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 05:05 PM (U9S0G)

Yup, I was working in NJ on an IT project during their first campaign. I had found some relatively Conservative folks (for Joisey) and I candidly told them, "Beat the rush, hate Clinton NOW!" They were outraged that I would speak so callously about a centrist Democrat. I told them, don't believe me, but, I am the chick who has been living in a city close to Arkansas for a number of years. I know the damn Clintons, you will hate them eventually. Some of them never spoke to me again.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 23, 2013 01:15 PM (kXoT0)

104 off traitorous sock

Posted by: thunderb at January 23, 2013 01:15 PM (Dnbau)

105 Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 23, 2013 05:12 PM (0q2P7)
I assume that has to be applied very close to the actual wound site, otherwise I could see a clotting problem. (I couldn't figure it out based on the description.)

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 23, 2013 01:15 PM (W8k4K)

106 And it was predetor 2. Harsh my buzz sooth :-)

Posted by: Bosk at January 23, 2013 01:15 PM (n2K+4)

107 Apparently the fact that Celox is available to the public has gone unnoticed by you. I'll give you a quick update. Reacts with blood, turns it to jello like *blam*, stops bleeding, even if you are a hemophiliac, even if it is an major arterial bleed. Here is the injectable type
http://amzn.to/V7TGBQ Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 23, 2013

Theirs a solidifying agent used in surgical suction canisters to keep all the goo from sloshing about.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 23, 2013 01:15 PM (mETGQ)

108

Is this some sort of war prep?

I need basic training first...

Also, what do I do if I see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant?

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 23, 2013 01:15 PM (1Y+hH)

109 Ace is all over this on Twitter https://twitter.com/AceofSpadesHQ

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2013 01:16 PM (piMMO)

110 If your carrying a stick that goes BANG!, you should have an israeli type bandage, gloves, clotting gauze, and a few other patches nearby.

Posted by: Jean at January 23, 2013 01:16 PM (0cUd9)

111 Those assholes act as if the steel, all at once, should have melted and the building collapse into a puddle of molten metal.

Nice to see a coblogger carrying on the proud AoS tradition of not reading the blog.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2013 01:16 PM (SY2Kh)

112 probably a by product of being under terrorist attack all the time

Posted by: thunderb at January 23, 2013 01:16 PM (Dnbau)

113 Also, what do I do if I see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant? Punt?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2013 01:17 PM (80/E+)

114

Yeah, the Israelis make good stuff. I bought one of those injured personnel carrying straps from them recently. It's one of those things that when you see it, you wonder why this wasn't thought of a thousand years ago.

You know, the Byzantine infantry used to wear a sort of harness over their armor, purpose unknown....Of course, in a hand-to-hand conflict with spears and swords, the need for dragging the wounded in the way we do now may not be present.

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 23, 2013 01:17 PM (hJesl)

115 Also, what do I do if I see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant? Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 23, 2013 05:15 PM (1Y+hH) _________________ Questions for CAC.

Posted by: tasker at January 23, 2013 01:17 PM (r2PLg)

116 That wasn't injectable foam, honey. Now put an ice pack on it and walk it off.

Posted by: Billy Jeff at January 23, 2013 01:18 PM (w3+gB)

117 Also, what do I do if I see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant?

You respect the balance of nature by eating them both.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2013 01:18 PM (SY2Kh)

118 >>>Posted by: polyhomer at January 23, 2013 05:13 PM (m2CN7)
Keep an eye on your expiration dates.

>>>I assume that has to be applied very close to the actual wound site, otherwise I could see a clotting problem. (I couldn't figure it out based on the description.)

That version is a powder injector, not say a hypodermic. You have a small penetrating wound, you jam then business end of the injector into the wound as far as motivation and resistance to pain will get you, crush down the plunger, and your internal bleeding turns to internal quickcrete.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 23, 2013 01:18 PM (0q2P7)

119 Jeezuz we've got some damn crossing of the threads....

Posted by: tasker at January 23, 2013 01:18 PM (r2PLg)

120 I was quoted on Ace's twitter, gosh, golly, gee whiz!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 23, 2013 01:19 PM (kXoT0)

121 They should see if they can drop a load of this into entitlement spending holes and see if it takes.
If they can make it taste like Cheetos win/win.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 23, 2013 01:19 PM (aZ6ew)

122

I've got a supply of Celox and a medical staple gun in my apocalypse survival stash.

Posted by: polyhomer at January 23, 2013 05:13 PM (m2CN7)

I bought steel plates for the armor. I figure the ERs will not be what they are today. Best to avoid any extra holes in the first place. But, yeah, for cuts, I think you have a good plan. Staples have to better than sewing up the wound with tread if you have to do it yourself.

Posted by: Invictus at January 23, 2013 01:19 PM (OQpzc)

123 Also, what do I do if I see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant?

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 23, 2013 05:15 PM (1Y+hH)

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Simple. Shoot an enviromentalist.

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 01:19 PM (U9S0G)

124 If your carrying a stick that goes BANG!, you should have an israeli type bandage, gloves, clotting gauze, and a few other patches nearby. Posted by: Jean at January 23, 2013 05:16 PM (0cUd9) A good place online to get alot of this stuff is: North American Rescue http://www.narescue.com/Portal.aspx And this stuff is not cheap

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2013 01:19 PM (jE38p)

125 Also, what do I do if I see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant?

Punt?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2013 05:17 PM (80/E+)

I suggest you shoot and eat the animal, using the remnants of the plant as garnish.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 23, 2013 01:19 PM (3ETnh)

126

I just spray some vinegar on it.

Posted by: luaP noR at January 23, 2013 01:19 PM (3H5Yr)

127 I've got a line on a fresh new writer/director planning on an avante-garde short film about a conservative messiah type (female) who has throngs of followers referred to as "The Horde" and demonstrate delusions of such magnitude that they don't notice how their idology continues to marginalize them out of existence. I'm thinking Ace would be a good broad for the part. Anybody seen her tits? Will she do a nude scene? Please hit me up, I'm serious.

Posted by: An anonymous talent agent in L.A. at January 23, 2013 01:20 PM (nCwW1)

128 This was in the era of the civil war and the wound soldiers feared the most was being gut-shot. Nothing anyone could do. It was a bad way to die.

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 05:13 PM (U9S0G)

If I'm not mistaken during the middle ages a strong smelling soup was given to a soldier with gut wound. They would sniff a round and if they smelled anything they would do you a favor a put you out of your misery.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 23, 2013 01:20 PM (mETGQ)

129 Each answer gets a little better, love it.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 23, 2013 01:20 PM (1Y+hH)

130 Also, what do I do if I see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant? Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 23, 2013 05:15 PM (1Y+hH) _______________ Put a tampon in your mouth--and quit contributing to global warming!

Posted by: Al Gore at January 23, 2013 01:20 PM (r2PLg)

131 remember the BATTLE Of BANNOCKBURN in 1339?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at January 23, 2013 01:21 PM (NLH1M)

132 Also, what do I do if I see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant? You respect the balance of nature by eating them both. "All of God's animals have their place. Usually right next to the mashed taters & gravy".

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2013 01:21 PM (80/E+)

133 Will this stuff help the herpes sore on my lip?

Posted by: Bob Beckel at January 23, 2013 01:21 PM (3H5Yr)

134

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 23, 2013 05:18 PM (0q2P7)

I will but I expect that it has at least 2years after that date to still be effective. What information do you have?

Posted by: polyhomer at January 23, 2013 01:21 PM (m2CN7)

135 put some windex on that

Posted by: thunderb at January 23, 2013 01:21 PM (Dnbau)

136 damn homer, keep forgetting to change my socks.

Posted by: polynikes at January 23, 2013 01:22 PM (m2CN7)

137 >The bandage was invented by an Israeli military medic, Bernard Bar-Natan. The bandages are being manufactured in Lod, Israel, by First Care Products Ltd.

Just watched a yootoob about how to use the Israeli bandage- that thing is damned ingenious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMRklQkfDLE

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 23, 2013 01:23 PM (8sCoq)

138 >>>I will but I expect that it has at least 2years after that date to still be effective. What information do you have?

My strategy is to replace it when it expires until society collapses. Then hope I never need, and if I do hope it works.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 23, 2013 01:24 PM (0q2P7)

139 My strategy is to replace it when it expires until society collapses. Then hope I never need, and if I do hope it works.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 23, 2013 05:24 PM (0q2P7)

My strategy is to use it on someone I have to shoot after society collapses and make them my servant after I save their life. Its only a strategy mind you.

Seriously, your strategy and hopes are the correct ones.

Posted by: polynikes at January 23, 2013 01:27 PM (m2CN7)

140 My strategy is to replace it when it expires until society collapses. Then hope I never need, and if I do hope it works.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 23, 2013 05:24 PM (0q2P7)

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This is one of the reasons I will culture my doctor friends. When the shit hits the fan, medicine and/or medical help will be worth more than gold.

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 01:28 PM (U9S0G)

141 This is one of the reasons I will culture my doctor friends. When the shit hits the fan, medicine and/or medical help will be worth more than gold. Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2013 05:28 PM (U9S0G) I hangout with a whole Navy Operational Health Support Unit attached to a Marine Regiment.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2013 01:30 PM (jE38p)

142 SMOD who art in space Please descend upon this place I cannot take this anymore The booze is gone and I am poor And if you come before I wake I beg of you my life to take There is no point in going on Please end the reign of the chosen Won.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at January 23, 2013 02:02 PM (Z5BDI)

143 Heh, this very concept was discussed years ago in the Halo Novelizations. Right down to filling the abdominal cavity. They called it Bio-Foam.

Posted by: Iblis at January 23, 2013 02:31 PM (9221z)

144 I bet Moochelle Wookiebama could eat through that in 3 seconds flat.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 23, 2013 02:33 PM (+OTLF)

145 56 Pfft. I've been injecting goo into gashes for years. Stops bleeding for about 9 months. Fell out of chair laughing at this.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 23, 2013 02:42 PM (fLf1K)

146 >>>29 Wasn't something like this shown in use near the end of Serenity, during the holding action against the Reavers?

Yep. I was thinking the same thing.

Posted by: Mephistefales at January 23, 2013 03:38 PM (YIC3Q)

147 Halo ODSTuses the foam thing too. It what I do.

Posted by: megthered at January 23, 2013 04:19 PM (iR4Dg)

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