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November 26, 2013

Iran Accuses the Obama Administration of, Get This, Lying About What Their Agreement Says
— Ace

No. Lie? There's no way Obama would misrepresent a bargain in order to trick the American public into acquiescing to it and thinking he achieved a political breakthrough.

That just doesn't make any damn sense at all.

Iranian officials say that the White House is misleading the public about the details of an interim nuclear agreement reached over the weekend in Geneva.
...
The White House released a multi-page fact sheet containing details of the draft agreement shortly after the deal was announced.
However, Iranian foreign ministry official on Tuesday rejected the White HouseÂ’s version of the deal as Â“invalidÂ” and accused Washington of releasing a factually inaccurate primer that misleads the American public.
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Afkham and officials said that the White House has Â“modifiedÂ” key details of the deal and released their own version of the agreement.

The White House "modifying" the details of an agreement and then lying about those terms?

That doesn't sound like the White House I know.

IranÂ’s right to enrich uranium, the key component in a nuclear weapon, is fully recognized under the draft released by Tehran.
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The White House confirmed to the Washington Free Beacon on Monday that the final details of the plan have yet to be worked out, meaning that Iran is not yet beholden to a six month freeze its nuclear activities.

Obama has managed his most important goal, though: Cornering Israel.

U.S. President Barack Obama has had two overarching goals in the Iran crisis. The first was to stop the Iranian regime from gaining possession of a nuclear weapon. The second was to prevent Israel from attacking IranÂ’s nuclear facilities.
This weekend, the president achieved one of these goals. He boxed-in Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu so comprehensively that it's unimaginable Israel will strike Iran in the foreseeable future. Netanyahu had his best chance to attack in 2010 and 2011, and he missed it. He came close but was swayed by ObamaÂ’s demand that he keep his planes parked. It would be a foolhardy act -- one that could turn Israel into a true pariah state, and bring about the collapse of sanctions and possible war in the Middle East -- if Israel were to attack Iran now, in the middle of negotiations.

Except that it's not wise to corner a country in existential fear for its continued existence.

Israel might not feel as boxed-in as Obama hopes they will feel.

A Foreign Policy writer suggests that Israel might resort to a pre-emptive nuclear strike of its own, to forestall Iran from getting the bomb.

They do seem to contemplate that possibility, and hint at it:

n August, Yuval Steinitz, Israel's minister for international affairs, strategy, and intelligence, claimed that Iran's uranium-enrichment facilities can be "destroyed with brute force," which he described as "a few hours of airstrikes, no more." Yaakov Amidror, who recently stepped down as national security advisor, asserted this month that Israel can "stop the Iranians for a very long time." Asked whether this includes Iran's deeply buried nuclear installations, he responded, "including everything."

Only a nuclear weapon could destroy deeply-buried facilities.

Thanks to Dave at Garfield Ridge for that last link.

Posted by: Ace at 01:15 PM | Comments (281)
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1 If you like your lies you can keep your lies.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 26, 2013 01:16 PM (BrrWI)

2 Can we afford three more years of the Dogeater?

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 26, 2013 01:16 PM (XUKZU)

3 Wonder of this is something we should look into?

Nah.

Posted by: MFM at November 26, 2013 01:17 PM (xKK9v)

4 If I didn't know any better I'd swear Obama double secretly did this as a wink wink to Israel to go ahead and bomb. It's the end result and I don't think Obama is THAT stupid not to realize this. Then again....

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 26, 2013 01:17 PM (0LHZx)

5 I think Israel is more likely to attack Iran with this deal and do it without the US's approval or help.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (xlX1p)

6
He lied. Again.

o_o

^ This is my shocked, SHOCKED face.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (nELVU)

7 Iran Accuses the Obama Administration of, Get This, Lying About What Their Agreement Says Daa-yum. When you've lost the Iranians.....

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (cUARf)

8 If you like your nukes, you can keep your nukes.

Posted by: dantesed at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (qGM8J)

9 >>Iranian officials say that the White House is misleading the public about
>>the details of an interim nuclear agreement reached over the weekend in
>>Geneva.

Iranian officials: Doing jobs that the American press won't do.

Posted by: Henry Kissinger at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (0ECU7)

10 The 3 Stooges are rolling over in their graves, oh the TFG & his bumbling foreign policy wonks. Stupid bastards

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (HVff2)

11 Hmm, why would Obama try to "box in" an ally of the US? I mean that's standard diplomacy, right? To box in allies by making agreements with our enemies. Why I can just recall all the times that Reagan "boxed in" England while acquiescing to USSR demands.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 26, 2013 01:20 PM (sByIH)

12 Gotta love Washington Free Bacon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 26, 2013 01:20 PM (BrrWI)

13 Alt : Dancing Boy President Gets Stiffed with Tip

Posted by: garrett at November 26, 2013 01:20 PM (Jp8cU)

14 If you like your agreement you can keep your agreement...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 26, 2013 01:21 PM (9+ccr)

15 My world is cufked up when I believe the Iranians before the executive branch of the US.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 26, 2013 01:21 PM (YVXLf)

16 Joe Wilson, prophet. His "you lie" outburst proves true time and time again.

Posted by: no good deed at November 26, 2013 01:21 PM (HsJeN)

17 The plans for the GÃ¶tterdÃ¤mmerung proceed apace.

Posted by: RS at November 26, 2013 01:21 PM (YAGV/)

18 Only a nuclear weapon could destroy deeply-buried facilities.

----

Maybe .... maybe not.

But it would suck all the air out of it, killing everyone inside. And the radiation would be a barrier to re-entry.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2013 01:22 PM (nELVU)

19 But it's Historical!!!!

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 26, 2013 01:22 PM (9+ccr)

20 ( YAWN )
(scratches ass )
(turns over )
( farts )

Posted by: Your Betters in the MSM [/i] [/b] at November 26, 2013 01:22 PM (nq+/u)

21 But it would suck all the air out of it, killing everyone inside. And the radiation would be a barrier to re-entry. --- Better hit it a few times to get the point across.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 26, 2013 01:22 PM (/Crba)

22 19 But it's Historical!!!! --- So was Munich.

Posted by: Zombie Neville Chamberlain at November 26, 2013 01:23 PM (/Crba)

23 Only a nuclear weapon could destroy deeply-buried facilities. Fire doesn't melt steel!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:23 PM (cUARf)

24 It's a sad day, when an American citizen that actually pays attention to current events not related to pop culture, seriously has to consider that the Mullahs of Iran are more truthful than his own President.

Posted by: Naked Emperor at November 26, 2013 01:23 PM (Tb01R)

25 Israel is not going to get wiped off the face of the Earth because they're afraid of some finger wagging by impotent diplomats.

Israel should start acting crazy, they'd probably get their way more often from the international community.

Israel is unfortunately already a pariah state. Somehow, Palestinians with their state-sponsored terror is held in higher regard internationally.

Posted by: McAdams at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (2TMCu)

26 At this point, I trust Iran's government run media, Press TV more than the MFM here.

/sad but true. Pravda is also more credible at this point. Gobbells would be proud...

Posted by: Shibumi at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (25HWz)

>> Only a nuclear weapon could destroy deeply-buried facilities.

Bunker Busting Bacon Bomb

Posted by: garrett at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (Jp8cU)

28 Culture war news: Nascar has changed their race sponsorship rules. Until now the track owner had say about naming, for example. the Coca-Coloa 600 or STP 400 or whatever, but now Nascar reserves the right to veto any "inappropriate" race sponsor. It's culture war news because this new rule is informally known now as the "NRA Rule" after NRA sponsored the NRA 500 at Texas Motor Speedway not too long after the Sandy Hook tragedy. So, long story short, Nascar has formally changed their race sponsorship rules to make sure the NRA can't sponsor a race again.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 01:25 PM (ZPrif)

29 God help us. When will we admit that the half Iranian Valerie Jarrettt is in charge?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 26, 2013 01:26 PM (YVXLf)

30 I think Israel is more likely to attack Iran with this deal and do it without the US's approval or help.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 26, 2013 05:19 PM (xlX1p)

Israel has done it before.

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 26, 2013 01:26 PM (nTgAI)

31 Hard to imagine the level of world freak-out if Israel preempt ex with nukes. But then I think of Golda Meir: "Israel will not die so that the world will speak well of it."

Posted by: JPS at November 26, 2013 01:26 PM (mmIX4)

32 27 >> Only a nuclear weapon could destroy deeply-buried facilities. Bunker Busting Bacon Bomb --- I hope the bomb reads "Not Kosher For Passover" on it in Hebrew.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 26, 2013 01:26 PM (/Crba)

33 Bunker Busting Bacon Bombs opened for Iggy Pop

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 26, 2013 01:26 PM (HVff2)

34 Maybe Obama will get those Iranian centrifuges to go really fast and turn into butter.

Posted by: Dang at November 26, 2013 01:26 PM (YWXTN)

35 Keystone Diplomacy by Horseface Cary.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 26, 2013 01:26 PM (787tI)

36 I'm now at the point where I legitimately don't know who to believe. The Obama administration lies like a cheap whore The Iranian regime are liars and disgraces to humanity So who the hell do I believe?!?!??! HELP!!!!

Posted by: Defector01 at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (ddMrm)

37 Nice alliteration, garrett.

Posted by: no good deed at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (HsJeN)

38 Its a little-known fact that the original formulation for Kaboom included enriched uranium for added freshness.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (8ZskC)

39 Only a nuclear weapon could destroy deeply-buried facilities. Maybe from afar. What would stop us from camping out at the site and eliminating their web of tunnels to the surface? Their military?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (sByIH)

40 More and more countries are concluding that USA's influence in the world is quickly diminishing and their futures are brighter outside USA's sphere of influence. I suspect new, surprising alliances will be forming very soon, and they won't be good for the USA. So much, so quickly squandered by this administration. And all by design.

Posted by: USA at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (VIaw0)

41 Fuck nascar & the Iranians

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (HVff2)

42 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 05:25 PM (ZPrif) That's the end of NASCAR for me and a lot of folks.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (YVXLf)

43 Iranian state controlled media vs. U.S. state controlled media. Who has more credibility? Only the cage will tell. Wish we could load 'em up.....

Posted by: Battle of the network news stars cage match style at November 26, 2013 01:28 PM (Tb01R)

44 Culture war news:

Nascar has changed their race sponsorship rules. Until now the track owner had say about naming, for example. the Coca-Coloa 600 or STP 400 or whatever, but now Nascar reserves the right to veto any "inappropriate" race sponsor.

It's culture war news because this new rule is informally known now as the "NRA Rule" after NRA sponsored the NRA 500 at Texas Motor Speedway not too long after the Sandy Hook tragedy.

So, long story short, Nascar has formally changed their race sponsorship rules to make sure the NRA can't sponsor a race again. Posted by: Flatbush Joe

Aw crap.

Posted by: Big Ol' Cock 500 Race Organizers at November 26, 2013 01:28 PM (YWXTN)

45 Only the cage will tell. Two aperati enter, one aperatus leaves.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 26, 2013 01:28 PM (sByIH)

46 En Fuego!

Posted by: that guy that shouts en fuego at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (QupBk)

47 I find myself in the strange position of wondering whether I should believe a declared enemy of my country or a guy who just acts like one.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (g1DWB)

48 I think many people have way too much faith in Israeli omnipotence, probably because of the Six Days War.

But in reality, Israel is a very small country with plenty of problems of their own. Israel is not going to magically handle this for the world. They can't.

Iran is almost certainly going to acquire nukes. It's possible that they might just hold onto them and not actually use them, though. Here's to hope.

Heck of a job, John Kerry.

Posted by: sandy burger at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (4dy3y)

49 Smart. Fucking. Diplomacy.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (UAMVq)

50 All Israel has to do is activate a few of their Squirrel Sleeper Cells.

Posted by: garrett at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (Jp8cU)

51 The nukes are going to start popping. The behavior of this administration nearly guarantees it.

Posted by: Dianna at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (DV/Ik)

52 Nice that we put more trust in the Iranians than our fucking lying sack of shit president.

Posted by: RWC at November 26, 2013 01:30 PM (fWAjv)

53 It's understandable that Nascar doesn't want to get involved in hot button political issues or have it's races used for political purposes. But Nascar has partnered with many "Go Green" eco-initiatives. They aren't banning those, just the NRA.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 01:30 PM (ZPrif)

54 *listening to iPod, singing*

♫And Iraaan,
Iran so far away...♫

*takes off headphones*

Oh, hai, anything big happening? Nobody tells me anything around here.

Posted by: SCOAMT at November 26, 2013 01:30 PM (xKK9v)

55 LOL, Comment #15. Well said (and unfortunately true for me, too.)

Posted by: moonstone716 at November 26, 2013 01:31 PM (Zxp92)

56 I really doubt Israel wants the "only country to ever pre-emptively nuke someone's ass" award. Bunker-bust the enrichment facilities? Maybe. It would have to be a hell of an air operation.

Posted by: kartoffel at November 26, 2013 01:31 PM (EcHOO)

57 I suspect new, surprising alliances will be forming very soon, and they won't be good for the USA. Posted by: USA

I don't know. Saudi Arabia and Israel might be cooperating. Kind of like that Clash, "Rock the Casbah" video with the Arab and Jew dancing around together. I like that.

Posted by: Dang at November 26, 2013 01:31 PM (YWXTN)

58 When will we admit that the half Iranian Valerie Jarrettt is in charge? Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 26, 2013 05:26 PM (YVXLf) Top. Men.

Posted by: BignJames at November 26, 2013 01:31 PM (j7iSn)

59 You fucked up. You trusted me.

Posted by: Barry 'Otter' Soetoro at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (Pr6hk)

60 obama has done more damage to Israel in 5 years than all the good every other American President has done for Israel in the last 65 years. And if we take President Nixon and President George Walker Bush it is not even close.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (t3UFN)

61 Fuck nascar, Brian France, and the Iranians.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (ad0Ft)

ROCK THE CASBAH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9r8LMU9bQ

Posted by: The Clash at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (Jp8cU)

63 I don't know. Saudi Arabia and Israel might be cooperating. Kind of like that Clash, "Rock the Casbah" video with the Arab and Jew dancing around together. I like that. --- Drop the bombs between the minarets down the Casbah way.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (/Crba)

64 It would be stupid, possibly suicidally so, for Israel to inform the U.S. of any attack plans they may have. They have got to know by now that our regime will leak the plans. The only question would be whether the regime might leak only to the Iranians and not via the MFM.

Posted by: palerider at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (dkExz)

65 Sounds like, get this, the White House I know.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (V70Uh)

66 Did someone say cage match?

Posted by: Nikolai Volkoff and the Iron Sheikh at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (Tb01R)

67 So, long story short, Nascar has formally changed their race sponsorship rules to make sure the NRA can't sponsor a race again. Posted by: Flatbush Joe

NASCAR is nothing more than "pro" wrestling with loud, shiny cars.

Over the past few years, their rules changes have been wiping out all that was good about the sport.

I've been a fan for years, not because of the organization, but because the drivers had big brass ones and weren't cookie-cutter little preeners. NASCAR has done their best to change that, too.

I predict a sharp drop in the size of the "fan base" next year.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (kaGpp)

68 I hope the bomb reads "Not Kosher For Passover" on it in Hebrew.

Since it's Hanukkah this week, right now I'm imagining 8 nights of lighting them up.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at November 26, 2013 01:33 PM (ZKzrr)

69 33 27 >> Only a nuclear weapon could destroy deeply-buried facilities. Bunker Busting Bacon Bomb --- I hope the bomb reads "Not Kosher For Passover" on it in Hebrew. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 26, 2013 05:26 PM (/Crba) Haram, bitches!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2013 01:33 PM (UAMVq)

70 #48 - The second Iran has nukes, it's going to use them.

Posted by: Dianna at November 26, 2013 01:33 PM (DV/Ik)

71 Nascar mostly wants consumer good sponsors. Toyota, STP, AAA, Bank of America, Subway, Budweiser, and GEICO all sponsored races last year. So did Ford Ecoboost. That was the season finale. The Ford Ecoboost 400.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 01:34 PM (ZPrif)

72 Obama is the most dangerous man in the world.

Posted by: steevy at November 26, 2013 01:34 PM (zqvg6)

73 64 It would be stupid, possibly suicidally so, for Israel to inform the U.S. of any attack plans they may have. They have got to know by now that our regime will leak the plans. The only question would be whether the regime might leak only to the Iranians and not via the MFM. --- The Israelis could use this to their advantage, however. A successful disinformation campaign could make the Iranians go on high alert for a long time, burning a ton of resources, then let the Israelis hit them when they're replenishing. That's the idea behind the air attack on Egypt to start the Six Day War, as they faked the Egyptian air force into the air, let them burn all their fuel, then launched an attack while they were in turnaround on the ground.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 26, 2013 01:34 PM (/Crba)

74 Well we know Barry & his love of the extreme muzzies, he isn't going to do anything to them. Now the joos & Saudis might be a different story.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 26, 2013 01:34 PM (HVff2)

75 28 Culture war news: Nascar has changed their race sponsorship rules. Until now the track owner had say about naming, for example. the Coca-Coloa 600 or STP 400 or whatever, but now Nascar reserves the right to veto any "inappropriate" race sponsor. It's culture war news because this new rule is informally known now as the "NRA Rule" after NRA sponsored the NRA 500 at Texas Motor Speedway not too long after the Sandy Hook tragedy. So, long story short, Nascar has formally changed their race sponsorship rules to make sure the NRA can't sponsor a race again. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 05:25 PM (ZPrif) _____________ And my reply is the same as whenever I read about someone whining about the NFL/ESPN. If you watch it, you are supporting it. If even 25% of conservatives stopped watching nascar/nfl they'd stop.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 26, 2013 01:34 PM (0LHZx)

76 The Ford Ecoboost 400.

They couldn't get Cover Girl or Kotex?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at November 26, 2013 01:34 PM (ZKzrr)

77 In January of this year the Doomsday Clock was moved to 5 minutes to midnight.

But guess what it too has been corrupted by climate change hysteria along with it's anti-West hysteria.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (787tI)

78 Budweiser sponsoring a car race wasn't a problem? *brp*

Posted by: Dang at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (YWXTN)

79 Hpoefully, nascar's fan base goes away. Nascar does not care about their fans at all.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (ad0Ft)

80 YES WE CAN!

Posted by: IDF at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (FtgP2)

81 Remember when the left used to make fun of NASCAR and its fans?Now they have co opted it.

Posted by: steevy at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (zqvg6)

82 The only question would be whether the regime might leak only to the Iranians and not via the MFM.
Posted by: palerider at November 26, 2013 05:32 PM

More likely, Choom Boy would order our forces to counter any Israeli strike. This is his chance to Take it to the Hymies in a big way for his pal Jesse Jackson.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (kaGpp)

83 Does this, in any way, surprise anyone?

We're living in an Escher print.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (ltdV/)

84 77 In January of this year the Doomsday Clock was moved to 5 minutes to midnight. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 26, 2013 05:35 PM (787tI)
Is it on Daylight Savings Time?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (BrrWI)

85 That's the idea behind the air attack on Egypt to start the Six Day War, as they faked the Egyptian air force into the air, let them burn all their fuel, then launched an attack while they were in turnaround on the ground. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 26, 2013 05:34 PM (/Crba) Well not really. They attack during breakfast when the whole egyptian air force was traditionally all down anyway.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (t3UFN)

86
Most people already thought he gave too much and even that was a lie, he gave everything and got nothing. But he wanted to look good so he lied, not to the Iranians, but to Americans.

Assad's Kid: Kiss my Ass, O!

Iranians: Ha! You are a loser and a liar.

Israel: Dumbass!

WH media: You are a god, may we kiss your ass.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (iGPSR)

87 77 In January of this year the Doomsday Clock was moved to 5 minutes to midnight. --- Hrm.

Posted by: Rorschach at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (/Crba)

88 You know. I kinda figured the administration was lying. But I also figured they would have told Iran "hey we're going to lie so the public buys in to this." Either Iran just backstabbed Kerry and the SCOAMF, or the "Smart power" crew forgot to tell Iran "Be cool, man, be cool." In either case, I find it funny that Iran had to tell us this. (If they can be believed, although honestly, I'm not sure why they'd lie about the administration lying unless they're trying to save face with there people, which is a possibility.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (GaqMa)

89 Heh, this is going to do shitloads of repair on the credibility of the Liar in Chief.

Posted by: maddogg at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (xWW96)

90 I don't know who to believe.

They are all acting like lying muzzies...

Posted by: Ian Galt at November 26, 2013 01:37 PM (QdOC1)

91 #76, HeatherRadish -- Not since Janet Guthrie retired from racing.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 26, 2013 01:37 PM (kaGpp)

92 We're still good, right NASCAR?

Posted by: The Cracker Barrel 666 at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (xKK9v)

@53

Does it make business sense though? My guess is if you made a Venn diagram with "Gun Owners" and "Nascar fans" you'd end up with a circle.

If you included a third circle for "people who drive electric cars" you'd have two circles side by side.

Posted by: Jollyroger at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (t06LC)

94 But in reality, Israel is a very small country with plenty of problems of their own. It takes me six hours to drive across Pennsylvania. One hour to drive across New Jersey. Israel is approximately the size of New Jersey. 'Only' one or two nukes in the hands of islamic extremists is an existential problem to them.

Posted by: Boring Dude [/i] at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (1H61p)

95 The most dangerous woman in the world is Valerie Jarrett.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (23Kgq)

96 Steevy right on. Brian France is a coke smokin filthy liberal hippie.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (ad0Ft)

>>>So, long story short, Nascar has formally changed their race sponsorship rules to make sure the NRA can't sponsor a race again.

.Not buying that, 24 hour rule in effect. Sounds fishy to me.

Posted by: Registered Voter at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (Hdbf3)

98 Well not really. They attack during breakfast when the whole egyptian air force was traditionally all down anyway. Posted by: Nevergiveup

Yeah, I thought the Israelis blew up most of the Egyptian air force while it was on the ground or destroyed the runways before they could get it up. Heh.

Posted by: Dang at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (YWXTN)

99 Tom Rose, who is an Israeli and former publisher of the Jerusalem Post IIRC said on the loca talk show that the IAF was now going to have to consider potentially getting past US Navy aircraft if and when they move to strike. To say it took me aback would be an understatement. T'would be a sad day indeed.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (CrJzY)

100 The most dangerous woman in the world is Valerie Jarrett. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2013 05:38 PM (23Kgq) She is more dangerous than obama since she is the "brains" behind the empty throne

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (t3UFN)

101 95 The most dangerous woman in the world is Valerie Jarrett.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2013 05:38 PM (23Kgq)

Yes, and she has the brains of a flea's dick.

Posted by: maddogg at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (xWW96)

102 The most dangerous woman in the world is Valerie Jarrett.

She's also one of the top ten most dangerous men in the world.

Thank you! Tip your cows!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (ZKzrr)

103 Wow. You know the SCoaMF's lying has gotten bad when the Iranian government has to point out the truth!

Posted by: کلاه های سیاسی at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (Vk2pI)

104 So, Who to believe? Who has more credibility? Mullahs or WH? God save us.

Posted by: USA at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (VIaw0)

105 Nascar mostly wants consumer good sponsors. Toyota, STP, AAA, Bank of America, Subway, Budweiser, and GEICO all sponsored races last year. Nothing says fast cars like booze.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (cUARf)

106 I'm not sure why they'd lie about the administration lying unless they're trying to save face with there people, which is a possibility.) Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 26, 2013 05:36 PM

Apparently, the Iranian public was already on board with the "agreement," at least as the Mad Mullahs presented it to them.

I suspect the Iranians are not lying. I see them as far more credible than Choom Boy, Lurch or their lickspittle toadies in the media.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (kaGpp)

107 I would hope Americans would disregard orders to fire on Israeli planes on their way to attack Iran.I would hope.

Posted by: steevy at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (zqvg6)

108

"the White House has Â“modifiedÂ” key details of the deal and released their own version of the agreement..."

So, Barry "meant" the original text but Kathleen Sebelius and the HHS changed them later....?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 26, 2013 01:41 PM (LA7Cm)

109 Nascar is trying to keep this quiet to avoid pissing off their fanbase.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 01:41 PM (ZPrif)

110 We're still good, right NASCAR?
Posted by: The Cracker Barrel 666

That reminds me. We need to see how much salt and trans fats are in your menu.

Posted by: NASCAR at November 26, 2013 01:41 PM (YWXTN)

111 Believe Iran because they are advancing their national goals.

Gaylord is only advancing his own goals, not this nation's.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 26, 2013 01:41 PM (787tI)

112 At this point the question is not "who do we trust more than our own President" but rather "who wouldn't we trust more than our own President?

Posted by: کلاه های سیاسی at November 26, 2013 01:41 PM (Vk2pI)

113 Tom Rose, who is an Israeli and former publisher of the Jerusalem Post IIRC said on the loca talk show that the IAF was now going to have to consider potentially getting past US Navy aircraft if and when they move to strike. To say it took me aback would be an understatement. T'would be a sad day indeed. Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2013 05:39 PM (CrJzY) The US Navy is NOT going to attack Israeli Aircraft, However, that does not mean obama might not alert the Iranians. He is a fuckin commie dick after all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 01:41 PM (t3UFN)

114 If you like your Iran nuke deal, you can keep your Iran nuke deal. Period.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2013 01:41 PM (UAMVq)

115 Coming soon to NASCAR: electric stock car racing!

Posted by: steevy at November 26, 2013 01:42 PM (zqvg6)

116 109 Nascar is trying to keep this quiet to avoid pissing off their fanbase.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 05:41 PM (ZPrif)

Brilliant. Their fan base is hardcore NRA, so yeah, they won't find out. Imbeciles.

Posted by: maddogg at November 26, 2013 01:42 PM (xWW96)

117 104 So, Who to believe? Who has more credibility? Mullahs or WH? God save us. He is sitting looking down on us & laughing at us. The WH has no credibility whatsoever. Mullahs? No, they don't either.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 26, 2013 01:42 PM (HVff2)

118 I realize the mullahs are evil deceitful religious fanatics with no standards for truth or honesty, but I still believe them more than our President. They have some bad points but his track record for honesty is worse.

Posted by: ejo at November 26, 2013 01:42 PM (GXvSO)

119 53 It's understandable that Nascar doesn't want to get involved in hot button political issues or have it's races used for political purposes. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 05:30 PM (ZPrif)
So there won't be a Planned Parenthood 250 ?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 26, 2013 01:42 PM (BrrWI)

120 112 At this point the question is not "who do we trust more than our own President" but rather "who wouldn't we trust more than our own President? Hell, I wouldn't trust that lying sack of shit.

Posted by: Joe Isuzu at November 26, 2013 01:42 PM (UAMVq)

121 How long until we find out that Stuxxnet was hamstrung by Obama Administration leaks?

Posted by: garrett at November 26, 2013 01:43 PM (Jp8cU)

122 I want to see John F'n Kerry neigh his way out of this.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 01:43 PM (FtgP2)

123 Damn this whole fucking internet.

Posted by: NASCAR at November 26, 2013 01:43 PM (YWXTN)

124 So there won't be a Planned Parenthood 250 ? The cars will be fueled by aborted babies.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2013 01:43 PM (UAMVq)

125 Meh. Lying liars accuse other lying liars of lying. It's what they do. It's beyond my control or ability to influence. I will not allow it to ruin my day.

Posted by: Sambo at November 26, 2013 01:43 PM (9UV3C)

126 Obama, kicked in the balls again by a petty little country

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 26, 2013 01:44 PM (nTgAI)

127 He made me do it...........*points finger at Obama*

Posted by: John Effin Kerry at November 26, 2013 01:44 PM (LA7Cm)

128 I want to see John F'n Kerry neigh his way out of this.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 05:43 PM (FtgP2)

You Rang ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 26, 2013 01:44 PM (nTgAI)

129 122 I want to see John F'n Kerry neigh his way out of this. Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 05:43 PM (FtgP2) Wilber....Theresa Heinz Kerry is a horse too

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 26, 2013 01:45 PM (HVff2)

130 Nothing to fear from an Obama presidency. Thanks, McCain, you diving fuckwit.

Posted by: jakeman at November 26, 2013 01:45 PM (ZCe+/)

131 From Jayski NASCAR has set a new guidelines that will govern and require approval for race naming rights sold by racetracks starting in 2014. Call it "The NRA Rule." The new policy - established about six months after the National Rifle Association sponsored the Sprint Cup race at Texas Motor Speedway - was revealed in sanction agreements filed Friday by Dover Motorsports Inc. with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. "As part of the normal course of annually reviewing our sanction language, there are some changes that take place," NASCAR spokesman David Higdon said Monday. "This is one of those situations. We previously said we'd take a look at this area of the sanctioning agreements, adjust as needed, and that's what we've done." http://www.jayski.com/cupnews.htm#20131126c

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 01:45 PM (ZPrif)

132 "Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us."

Posted by: Candidate Comrade Obama at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (PLOz8)

133

Correct me if I'm wrong. None of this is preventing the unfreezing of Iran's eight billion dollars. Is that correct or is that on hold?

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (m2CN7)

134 You'd have to be a monster to not feel at least some tiny bit of sympathy for the continual embarrassment this hapless administration rake-steps into.

And yet, I am that monster.

Posted by: Bivalve Curious at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (aGqSh)

135 115 Coming soon to NASCAR: electric stock car racing! Posted by: steevy at November 26, 2013 05:42 PM (zqvg6) ___________ Downside: Everyone goes 55 MPH Upside: Several explosions every race

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (0LHZx)

136 After this little experiment in freedom finishes burning, the next constitution has got to include a citizen's right to enrich nuclear material in the bill or rights.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (kxSZr)

137

Nascar.

Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 26, 2013 01:47 PM (LA7Cm)

138 the next constitution has got to include a citizen's right to enrich nuclear material in the bill or rights.

Hello, Iowa City!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at November 26, 2013 01:47 PM (ZKzrr)

139 AAA head said that travel is down over the holidays because of the. .. Wait for it... The shutdown. *currently looking for a replacement for AAA*

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 26, 2013 01:47 PM (YVXLf)

140

After this little experiment in freedom finishes burning, the next constitution has got to include a citizen's right to enrich nuclear material in the bill or rights.

Oh, how our LaceWigs will glow!

Posted by: garrett at November 26, 2013 01:47 PM (Jp8cU)

141 "I'm now at the point where I legitimately don't know who to believe.

The Obama administration lies like a cheap whore
The Iranian regime are liars and disgraces to humanity

So who the hell do I believe?!?!??! HELP!!!!

Posted by: Defector01 at November 26, 2013 05:27 PM (ddMrm)"

There must be a way for them both to be lying.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 26, 2013 01:48 PM (V70Uh)

142 On the bright side, John Kerry's legacy as America's Quisling is now pretty much a lock.

Posted by: USA at November 26, 2013 01:48 PM (VIaw0)

143 So there won't be a Planned Parenthood 250 ? The cars will be fueled by aborted babies. Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2013 05:43 PM (UAMVq) P.S. The Black ones burn betterÂ…

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at November 26, 2013 01:48 PM (Vk2pI)

144 I know! I know! I'll take a screenshot of the original agreement and a screenshot of the Administrations version and alternate them in a gif! We can call it The Throbbing Iranian Nuclear Agreement! I'll be back!

Posted by: Ponttailed Jazz Playing Bicycle Guy With a Blog at November 26, 2013 01:49 PM (uE8kb)

145 Obama seemed to brush off these concerns about IranÂ’s threats while campaigning in Oregon. Â“Iran, they spend 1/100th of what we spend on the military. If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance."

Posted by: Candidate Comrade Obama at November 26, 2013 01:49 PM (PLOz8)

146

@135

Upside - Race only lasts 15 minutes.

Posted by: Jollyroger at November 26, 2013 01:49 PM (t06LC)

147 The US Navy is NOT going to attack Israeli Aircraft, However, that does not mean obama might not alert the Iranians. He is a fuckin commie dick after all Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 05:41 PM

I would say your opinion of the Navy's possible response comes from knowing officers and men. I agree they wouldn't do it, but am far less certain -- in fact, not certain at all -- that Choom Boy would tell them to.

There are probably some decent people in various branches of the government that have "followed orders" for President Historic FirstÂ© even though their consciences protested. Remember the Nuremburg trials?

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 26, 2013 01:49 PM (kaGpp)

148 NASCAR will soon announce the OCA 200.

Posted by: USA at November 26, 2013 01:49 PM (VIaw0)

149 After this little experiment in freedom finishes burning, the next constitution has got to include a citizen's right to enrich nuclear material in the bill or rights.

Psssst, my good man. I can't remember, is the good stuff the U-235 or the U-238?

Posted by: jakeman at November 26, 2013 01:49 PM (ZCe+/)

150 Christ, I just walked past the Governor again. That guy's everywhere these days. Is it the weekend yet?

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 26, 2013 01:50 PM (+InBv)

151

On the bright side, John Kerry's legacy as America's Quisling is now pretty much a lock.

Lying to Congress and libeling his fellow soldiers gave him a hell of a running start.

Posted by: garrett at November 26, 2013 01:50 PM (Jp8cU)

152 Remember the Nuremburg trials? Posted by: MrScribbler at November 26, 2013 05:49 PM (kaGpp) The Nuremburg trials were only imposed on the losers of that war. If the Proggies winÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 26, 2013 01:50 PM (Vk2pI)

153 Chaos. More chaos. Nobody believes anybody anymore. And I think that's just the way this regime likes it.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 01:50 PM (FtgP2)

154 When you corner an animal it doesn't attack the person standing behind you. It attacks *you*.

Posted by: RokShox at November 26, 2013 01:50 PM (8MMMw)

155 " I really doubt Israel wants the "only country to ever pre-emptively nuke someone's ass" award. Bunker-bust the enrichment facilities? Maybe. It would have to be a hell of an air operation.

Posted by: kartoffel at November 26, 2013 05:31 PM (EcHOO)"

That honor has already been earned by, get this, the USA.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 26, 2013 01:50 PM (V70Uh)

156 Don't laugh, but ya know who I want reviewing this deal? Lindsey Ckufing Graham. That's who.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (DmNpO)

157 150 Christ, I just walked past the Governor again. That guy's everywhere these days. Woodbury will rise again!

Posted by: The Governor at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (UAMVq)

158 Al Gore is a vegan? Like the fat fucker needs a few more carbs.

Posted by: NCKate at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (huQFw)

159

It's understandable that Nascar doesn't want to get involved in hot button political issues or have it's races used for political purposes.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 05:30 PM (ZPrif)

Since they are sponsored by the criminals that are the main cause of global warming I guess they just need to shut down the whole shebang.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (m2CN7)

160 Psssst, my good man. I can't remember, is the good stuff the U-235 or the U-238? Posted by: jakeman at November 26, 2013 05:49 PM (ZCe+/)[/o] U-235 is the more readily fissioned one. U-238 can be used to make Pu-239 or as the fuel for a tertiary state in an H-bomb.

Posted by: The Uraniuim Hat at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (Vk2pI)

161 158 Al Gore is a vegan? Anything Clinton can do, Algore can do better.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (+InBv)

162 Posted by: BignJames at November 26, 2013 05:31 PM (j7iSn) With big dicks hiding behind a poser.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (/djtm)

163 I don't tip lesbians.

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (/1ATA)

164 America's nuclear attacks on Japan were not preemptive,we were already at war for years.

Posted by: steevy at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (zqvg6)

165 From twitter: James Taranto ‏@jamestaranto Iranians and Americans find common ground in not believing Obama is honest and trustworthy.

Posted by: USA at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (VIaw0)

166

Al Gore is a vegan?

No shit?

Posted by: Prince Fielder at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (Jp8cU)

167 158 Al Gore is a vegan? Like the fat fucker needs a few more carbs. Posted by: NCKate at November 26, 2013 05:51 PM (huQFw) With that diet, he will become the number one producer of greenhouse gases.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (UAMVq)

168 Don't laugh, but ya know who I want reviewing this deal? Lindsey Ckufing Graham. That's who. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 26, 2013 05:51 PM (DmNpO) My, my, is it that time again?

Posted by: A Stopped Clock at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (Vk2pI)

169 "the White House has Â“modifiedÂ” key details of the deal and released their own version of the agreement..." So, Barry "meant" the original text but Kathleen Sebelius and the HHS changed them later....? To be fair, Present Dent Obama probably isn't even aware key changes have been made. He probably won't know til tomorrow when he reads it in the paper...

Posted by: runningrn at November 26, 2013 01:53 PM (PLOz8)

170 Jimbo, that one wasn't exactly pre-emptive. Pretty much the opposite of a surprise, really.

Posted by: kartoffel at November 26, 2013 01:53 PM (EcHOO)

171 well we could read the actual agreement and find out if Our dear leader is lying yet again.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 01:53 PM (nqBYe)

172 The good stuff is 235. 238 barely even counts as radioactive. For nuclear reactors, though, I hear great things about Thorium.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 26, 2013 01:54 PM (vEQwN)

173 I don't tip lesbians. Posted by: Alec Baldwin I thought it was "just the tip" Now I'm so confused.

Posted by: imp at November 26, 2013 01:54 PM (L9AnB)

174 Kerry: Hey, We Drove A Â“Hard BargainÂ” With The IraniansÂ… I guess thatÂ’s why the Iranians got everything they wanted and we got nothing in return. yeah hey your not stupid like everyone says you are and you want respect to I bet Fredo, ugh I mean kerry

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 01:54 PM (t3UFN)

175 One word : Lugumes

Posted by: Al Gore at November 26, 2013 01:55 PM (Jp8cU)

176 I'm sure Obama is lying. I'm also sure that his "Diplomats" are so incompetent that they released key talking points from the wrong version of the deal.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 26, 2013 01:55 PM (sByIH)

177 My, my, is it that time again? Posted by: A Stopped Clock at November 26, 2013 05:52 PM (Vk2pI) *** Indeed it is. I was always a big supporter of his foreign policy views until the Syria mess. If there's a weakness.... a lie.... in this deal, he'll ferret it out like pig rutting for truffles.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 26, 2013 01:55 PM (DmNpO)

178 Thanks, Uranium Hat. I knew someone would put me some knowledge. Now, just need to find a dealer for my backyard "power generation" project, since AZ isn't exactly rich in fossil fuels...

Posted by: jakeman at November 26, 2013 01:55 PM (ZCe+/)

179 174 Kerry: Hey, We Drove A Â“Hard BargainÂ” With The IraniansÂ… Heh heh heh. You said "hard." Heh heh heh.

Posted by: Butthead at November 26, 2013 01:55 PM (UAMVq)

180 So fielder has synthetic gloves, shoes, baseballs, etc. I guess.

Posted by: NCKate at November 26, 2013 01:56 PM (huQFw)

181

"
To be fair, Present Dent Obama probably isn't even aware key changes have been made. He probably won't know til tomorrow when he reads it in the paper..."

Ah, yes. You are most likely correct.

"If I knew there was this kind of trouble with the Agreement do you think I would have made a jackass out of myself......."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 26, 2013 01:56 PM (LA7Cm)

182 cannot believe we have to 'do' 3 more years of this shit.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 01:56 PM (nqBYe)

183 Al Gore is a vegan? I saw the headline. It said he has become a vegan just like Bull Clinton, so that means he's still eating meat. I just cannot envision Al and Bull sitting in cars with vinyl seats. After all, vegans eschew all animal products. I have to admit it's tough when one ideology with plastic shoes conflicts with a no petroleum agenda.

Posted by: runningrn at November 26, 2013 01:56 PM (PLOz8)

184

>>NASCAR has set a new guidelines that will govern and require approval for race naming rights sold by racetracks starting in 2014. Call it "The NRA Rule."

.One guy coined the term "NRA rule" at it appears almost every article links back to him and every article that I have found quotes him exactly. He even got Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut involved to stir things up.

When an NRA sponsored race gets 85% approval with your base, you don't go changing it.

NASCAR addressing the issue:

"We've had fewer than a dozen responses," Gossage said. "Of those, only two had purchased tickets [to other TMS events]. There is no controversy or big uproar or even a tiny uproar. As for this senator, I appreciate a good publicity effort as much as anyone."

Posted by: Registered Voter at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (Hdbf3)

185 Actually that's a good point by Taranto, but doesn't go far enough. How about our liberals and their mullahs nuke each other so we can be left in peace? Just give me advance warning when they irradiate Boulder

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (vEQwN)

186

How did I miss that?

Legumes.

That was the word.

Posted by: Al Gore at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (Jp8cU)

187 OT: Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic, wants to kill his father and kill you if you don't agree. http://tinyurl.com/m58fn65

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (Vk2pI)

188

So fielder has synthetic gloves, shoes, baseballs, etc. I guess.

No. He ate them.

Posted by: garrett at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (Jp8cU)

189 Al Gore is a vegan? Like the fat fucker needs a few more carbs. I actually liked the 'Hermit' Al Gore who disappeared after the Supreme Court kicked him in his shriveling -- yet globally warmed -- testicles. He disappeared, slimmed down, grew a beard, and looked like he was going to disappear into the woods like a Unibomber and write some 1,000 page manifesto on a manual typewriter with a case of white-out by his side. Then he reappeared.

Posted by: Boring Dude [/i] at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (1H61p)

190 And it begins.... In a radio interview on Monday, Georgia Republican congressman Jack Kingston deviated from Republican Party orthodoxy and argued that simply standing pat and watching Obamacare crumble would not be the Â“responsibleÂ” thing to do. Kingston made his argument while defending his Small Business Fairness in Obamacare Act, a bill that would exempt some businesses with more than 50 employees from ObamacareÂ’s employer mandate. Some conservatives, Kingston said, have criticized the bill for aiming to improve Â— rather than simply repeal Â— Obamacare. ______________ Something about the jaws of victory and defeat.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 26, 2013 01:58 PM (0LHZx)

191 Nobody puts Israel in a corner!

Posted by: Benjamin Netanyahu at November 26, 2013 01:58 PM (oFCZn)

192 Ah, yes. You are most likely correct. "If I knew there was this kind of trouble with the Agreement do you think I would have made a jackass out of myself......." Would I be out there touting the ease of signing this agreement with buying products on Amazon or Travelocity?!!"

Posted by: runningrn at November 26, 2013 01:58 PM (PLOz8)

193 This is interesting and relevant. (Warning: contains image of SCOAMF and his commie whore mother)

http://is.gd/HdATfU

He deeply identifies with the fragile, unraveling cultures of the Third World against the depredations of the globalizing Metropole. So, I suspect, does his mentor and chief advisor, the Iranian-born Valerie Jarrett, and most of his inner circle. This goes beyond the famous declaration of Jimmy CarterÂ’s advisor Hamilton JordanÂ—Â“the Palestinians are the n****ers of the Middle EastÂ”Â—and CarterÂ’s own mainline-Protestant reverence for the Â“holy menÂ” of IranÂ’s 1979 Iranian revolution. It goes beyond the post-colonial theory of liberal academia. For Obama, it is a matter of personal experience. His father and stepfather were Third World Muslims, his mother was an anthropologist who dedicated her life to protecting the traditional culture of Indonesia against the scourge of globalization, and four years of his childhood were spent at an Indonesian school. The same point has been made by Dinesh dÂ’Souza, among others.

ObamaÂ’s commitment to rapprochement with Iran arises from deep personal identification with the supposed victims of imperialism. That is incongruous, to be sure. Persia spent most of his history as one of the nastier imperial powers, and its present rulers are no less ambitious in their pursuit of a pocket empire in the ShiÂ’ite world. The roots of his policy transcend rationality. Israel can present all the evidence in the world of IranÂ’s plans to build nuclear weapons and delivery systems, and the Iranians can cut the Geneva accord into confetti. Obama will remain unmoved. His heart, like his late motherÂ’s, beats for the putatively oppressed peoples of the so-called Third World.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at November 26, 2013 01:58 PM (ZKzrr)

194

Of the eight billion dollars I would say at least half of that will be transferred to North Korea as they continue to help Iran with their missile program. So not only do we have Iran to worry about , we have a resupplied NK

Way to go Barry.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2013 01:58 PM (m2CN7)

195

"cannot believe we have to 'do' 3 more years of this shit."

I have not yet began to fuck shit all up.

Posted by: Preznit FoShizzle at November 26, 2013 01:59 PM (LA7Cm)

196 See a bunch of gun haters on twitter congratulating themselves on the Nascar's new NRA Rule. They are congratulating themselves for making the NRA so radioactive that "even Nascar" doesn't want to be associated with them. Demonization works.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 01:59 PM (ZPrif)

197 If you don't have your one year supply of food...

Well Sam's Club is selling this online deal. One year of food for one person in #10 cans with a wheat grinder. Delivered to your door. For $1,500.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 26, 2013 01:59 PM (787tI)

198 "I am altering the deal. Pray that I do not alter it further." --Darth Obama

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 26, 2013 01:59 PM (xN1DB)

199 It's debatable. In the modern use of the term "Pre-emptive nuclear strike" means using nukes first with or without the conventional war component.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 26, 2013 02:00 PM (V70Uh)

200 cannot believe we have to 'do' 3 more years of this shit.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 05:56 PM (nqBYe)

--------------------------------------------

Oh, we won't. We'll have to put up with bigger, different shit.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 02:00 PM (FtgP2)

201 It's all bullshit. Every thing. All of it. Bullshit.

Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 26, 2013 02:01 PM (nsl5Y)

202 Posted by: The Political Hat at November 26, 2013 05:57 PM (Vk2pI WTF? While I sympathize, I have two questions 1) So we're not allowed to act on our conscience now according to scott adams. 2) $8k/month? Is his dad still getting treatment for something?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 26, 2013 02:01 PM (GaqMa)

203 Anna, is that like typical American portions? Or do people need to actually buy two per person?

Posted by: NCKate at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (huQFw)

204 It's culture war news because this new rule is informally known now as the "NRA Rule" after NRA sponsored the NRA 500 at Texas Motor Speedway not too long after the Sandy Hook tragedy. In related news, the local guy on the (conservative) radio this morning was going on about something apparently buried in the Sandy Hook report. Apparently the video game that Adam Lanza was obsessed with, the one that drove him to violence and become a gun-obsessed murderer and probably even one of those fucking Tea Partiers, was....."Dance Dance Revolution."

Posted by: --- at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (MMC8r)

205 >>>>This weekend, the president achieved one of these goals. He boxed-in Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu so comprehensively that it's unimaginable Israel will strike Iran in the foreseeable future.>>>>

Total wishcasting. Israel will act because Obama has no power whatsoever over her. Israel has bombed Russian arms shipments to Hezbollah five times now, over Obama's protests.

Obama is irrelevant now.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (+rdD2)

206 Let me be clear: Fuck You, America, Fuck You!

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (uE8kb)

207 The President is such a heaping scoop of rancid manure that I can't help but trust the word of terrorist-supporting barbaric Iranians more than him. That's just sad.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (BXo5H)

208 After all, vegans eschew all animal products. I have to admit it's tough when one ideology with plastic shoes conflicts with a no petroleum agenda.

I remember the first serious vegans I encountered, right after college, long before it was popular (circa 1989), making an issue of leather. What was funny, though, is that I met them based on a group trip to Greece (don't ask me how many dinosaurs died to fuel that Olympic Airlines flight) and they lived quite happily in Plymouth, Mass., powered by a nuke plant. Cognitive dissonance, they name is Liberal.

Posted by: jakeman at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (ZCe+/)

209 Only a nuclear weapon could destroy deeply-buried facilities. Yeah be a shame if one of the iranian nascent weapons just happen to go off? Opps

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 02:03 PM (t3UFN)

210 They are congratulating themselves for making the NRA so radioactive that "even Nascar" doesn't want to be associated with them.

Demonization works.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 05:59 PM (ZPrif)

See I want to empathize with the NRA but I can't let go of the fact that they endorsed Harry Reid. And also never sent me my free gift. Mostly the free gift.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2013 02:03 PM (m2CN7)

211 Boom.
Big Badda Boom!

Posted by: Leeloo Dallas at November 26, 2013 02:03 PM (6fSty)

212 >>>>Only a nuclear weapon could destroy deeply-buried facilities.>>>>

Actually, no. Deeply buried facilities have air vents and other ingresses. Thermobatic devices can cook everyone inside without having to penetrate.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at November 26, 2013 02:04 PM (+rdD2)

213 Total wishcasting. Israel will act because Obama has no power whatsoever over her. Israel has bombed Russian arms shipments to Hezbollah five times now, over Obama's protests. Yes, it actually frees Bibi to do what he needs to do. Like Dennis Miller tweeted "Hey Bibi, that's one last phone call you'll need to make when it's 'Go Time'".

Posted by: runningrn at November 26, 2013 02:05 PM (PLOz8)

214

Bomb, bomb, bomb.

Bomb, bomb, Iran.

Posted by: Tio Juan McCain at November 26, 2013 02:05 PM (Jp8cU)

215 Total wishcasting. Israel will act because Obama has no power whatsoever over her. Israel has bombed Russian arms shipments to Hezbollah five times now, over Obama's protests.

Obama is irrelevant now.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at November 26, 2013 06:02 PM (+rdD2)

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He's irrelevant to everyone; Russia, China, N. Korea, our allies........everyone. What's sad is that he's dragged this country down with him.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 02:06 PM (FtgP2)

216 I remember the first serious vegans I encountered, right after college, long before it was popular (circa 1989), making an issue of leather. What was funny, though, is that I met them based on a group trip to Greece (don't ask me how many dinosaurs died to fuel that Olympic Airlines flight) and they lived quite happily in Plymouth, Mass., powered by a nuke plant. Cognitive dissonance, they name is Liberal. --- The first vegan I can ever remember meeting was my 7th grade middle school "science teacher". She lasted either one year or two before deciding to move on and ended up teaching the kids of the stars out in Clownifornia.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 26, 2013 02:06 PM (/Crba)

217 Bibi is no Menachim Begin

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 02:06 PM (t3UFN)

218 NCKate they say about 1,787 calories a day.

Here is the link
http://tinyurl.com/l8tnvfl

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 26, 2013 02:06 PM (787tI)

219 Apparently the video game that Adam Lanza was obsessed with, the one that drove him to violence and become a gun-obsessed murderer and probably even one of those fucking Tea Partiers, was....."Dance Dance Revolution."

Posted by: --- at November 26, 2013 06:02 PM (MMC8r)

My theory was he was an angry gay who thought in his mind that he was being repressed.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2013 02:07 PM (m2CN7)

220 Yeah be a shame if one of the iranian nascent weapons just happen to go off? Opps --- "What happened to you?" "New guy."

Posted by: Achmed The Dead Terrorist at November 26, 2013 02:07 PM (/Crba)

221 Dust off. Orbit. Be sure.

Posted by: Cold Count de Monet at November 26, 2013 02:08 PM (BAS5M)

222 You know what's most bizarre out of all this? The fact that obama The Liar is thriving in what is called the Information Age. With the advent of the Internet, The People have never before been more able to gather information piped directly into their homes. And yet the so-called Information Age comes at a time when The People are so dumb and apathetic!

Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 26, 2013 02:08 PM (nsl5Y)

223

Deeply buried facilities have air vents and other ingresses. Thermobatic devices can cook everyone inside without having to penetrate.

That's hot.

Posted by: Paris Hilton at November 26, 2013 02:09 PM (Jp8cU)

224 Thanks Anna. The first vegan I met was in college. She lived on acid and Camels. And was bisexual. Very confused chick.

Posted by: NCKate at November 26, 2013 02:09 PM (huQFw)

225 china declares a air defense zone, Obama violates it.

Obama declares an agreement with Iran, and the government of Iran denies what Obama claims.

What do you say we have a few Russian bombers fly over Seattle, just for the photo op?

OH, and lets have a horde of Mexican citizens over run a border check point.

What else could we do? Oh, lets have Detroit secede from the United States and start pot farming and prostitution. Sure, why not?

Oh, and the unions could take over the Boeing plant, and set the minimum wage to $25 (USD) an hour with a cadillac health insurance plan.

At this point, what difference does it make?

Posted by: Well of Caring depleted at November 26, 2013 02:10 PM (sOAZM)

226 The balls on that Mullah!!!! The one in Iran, I mean.

Posted by: Meremortal at November 26, 2013 02:10 PM (1Y+hH)

227 Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 26, 2013 06:08 PM (nsl5Y)

Welcome to the Disinformation Age!

Posted by: MFM at November 26, 2013 02:10 PM (uE8kb)

228 I got burned by that website and the Iran agreement.

Posted by: obama at November 26, 2013 02:10 PM (bMeMt)

229 Achaemenid Persia was actually one of the gentler imperial powers. Even the Sasanians weren't THAT bad, excepting Khusru II. But yeah, they were imperialists.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 26, 2013 02:11 PM (vEQwN)

230

You wanna understand Doh!bamma's Iranian Policy?

Look no further that that rat-faced Iranian that counsels him.

Posted by: Yeah, me. Valerie Jarret at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM (6fSty)

231 210 I got a sweet folding knife and an athletic bag.

Posted by: steevy at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM (zqvg6)

232 196 See a bunch of gun haters on twitter congratulating themselves on the Nascar's new NRA Rule.

They are congratulating themselves for making the NRA so radioactive that "even Nascar" doesn't want to be associated with them.

Demonization works.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 05:59 PM (ZPrif)

They are doing this nazi stalin shit in the open , when will GOP figure out to fight back so they will not be cut down the same way when no ones left to support them.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM (AWmfW)

233 NCKate, I bet her daddy was proud

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM (vEQwN)

234 I know a girl who first married a guy from India and now one from Pakistan. She always told me that lying is encouraged in those cultures if they gain in some way. Especially applies to Americans. If true, it answers a lot of questions for me.

Posted by: dumbartist at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM (ahBY0)

235 Apparently the video game that Adam Lanza was obsessed with, the one that drove him to violence and become a gun-obsessed murderer and probably even one of those fucking Tea Partiers, was....."Dance Dance Revolution." He spent 4-10 hours a day at a place that had that machine. He also really likes Super Mario Brothers. The guy was heavily autistic. He even "talked" with his Mother via email.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM (sByIH)

236 At this point, what difference does it make?

Yeah.

But I'm going to go drop some grocery money at Hobby Lobby anyway.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM (ZKzrr)

237 'Disinformation Age' is a good way to put it. No wonder the Infomercial has been so successful for the last 20 yrs; People today are suckers.

Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 26, 2013 02:13 PM (nsl5Y)

238 As long as you tell lies people want to believe it doesn't matter how much info they have in reach. They won't look for it. And if they see it they won't believe it. It's uncomfortable.

Posted by: kartoffel at November 26, 2013 02:13 PM (EcHOO)

239 no one is more upset about the white house lying about the iranian agreement than the scoamf...

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 26, 2013 02:13 PM (8JJ6O)

240 "The first vegan I met was in college. She lived on acid and Camels. And was bisexual." That's a fairly tame one.

Posted by: Meremortal at November 26, 2013 02:14 PM (1Y+hH)

241 Ya know.. things have reached a very low point when you start sympathizing with the Iranians over our own President and his clown posse led by Lurch.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 26, 2013 02:15 PM (b/lt+)

242 But I'm going to go drop some grocery money at Hobby Lobby anyway.
Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ #NukeIowaCity at November 26, 2013 06:12 PM (ZKzrr)
They sell food?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 26, 2013 02:15 PM (BrrWI)

243 239 no one is more upset about the white house lying about the iranian agreement than the scoamf I need to know who lied so I know who's ass to kick!

Posted by: SCOAMF at November 26, 2013 02:15 PM (PLOz8)

244 There are probably some decent people in various branches of the government that have "followed orders" for President Historic FirstÂ© even though their consciences protested. Remember the Nuremburg trials?

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 26, 2013 05:49 PM (kaGpp)

Of course there are decent people in all branches of government. If there weren't the system would crash in a week. And no, they don't (and wouldn't) follow orders because Obama is the First Black President but because he is the President, elected by the majority of our countrymen. If the President issues what an individual considers an unlawful or unconscionable order, then and only then (and mindful of the possible consequences) would they have the right to refuse that order.

We've endured bad presidents before. We'll endure this one.

Posted by: troyriser at November 26, 2013 02:16 PM (gNlvW)

245 Fuck 'em. I don't trust what those anti-american bastards say. Their goal is death to America and they hate us and our way of life. The same goes for the Iranians.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 26, 2013 02:17 PM (6ahup)

246 We've endured bad presidents before. We'll endure this one. Posted by: troyriser at November 26, 2013 06:16 PM (gNlvW) We've endured stupid Presidents, nieve Presidents, peanut Presidents, but never a President that hates everything America has ever stood for. This one is trouble

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 02:17 PM (t3UFN)

247 I AM ONE BAD MULLAH F*CKAH!!!

Posted by: SCOAMF at November 26, 2013 02:18 PM (PLOz8)

248 fuck you all, the news radio was breathless about this being a historic deal, a real feather in the cap for obama's feather filled cap (he was editor of the harvard law review, don't you know). How dare you ruin this feather with facts? Facts are meaningless, you could use a fact to prove anythings that's remotely true.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at November 26, 2013 02:18 PM (QxSug)

249 So, big expose on the Alphabets' national news shows this evening? Shock, horror and disgust? I mean mewling, deflecting and obfuscating?

Posted by: Meremortal at November 26, 2013 02:18 PM (1Y+hH)

250 I got nuthin'.

Posted by: Brian Williams at November 26, 2013 02:19 PM (oFCZn)

251 I .don't wanna endure; I wanna a reckoning. ...I want to hear screaming and bullwhips cracking.

Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 26, 2013 02:19 PM (nsl5Y)

252 Obama is probably scratching his head.
"we gave them every way to keep on building da bomb, yet they have to do this to me ?"

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 02:20 PM (nqBYe)

253 Just pour some HF down then plug the vents with some industrial size cans of Great Stuff foam.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 26, 2013 02:20 PM (Xlbr8)

254 mfm, "Obama is so dreamy did you see He actually reached an agreement with The Iranians"

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 02:21 PM (nqBYe)

255 So, big expose on the Alphabets' national news shows this evening?
Shock, horror and disgust?
I mean mewling, deflecting and obfuscating?
Posted by: Meremortal
...............
Making the popcorn now in anticipation of Diane Sawyer's beatdown of Obama on this.. it should be awesome!11!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 26, 2013 02:21 PM (b/lt+)

256 mfm today" that's local mideast news. "

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 02:22 PM (nqBYe)

257 We've endured bad presidents before. We'll endure this one.
Posted by: troyriser at November 26, 2013 06:16 PM (gNlvW)

We've endured stupid Presidents, nieve Presidents, peanut Presidents, but never a President that hates everything America has ever stood for. This one is trouble

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 06:17 PM (t3UFN)

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Agree. Don't forget dangerous. He's going to get a lot of people killed in the next three years.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 02:22 PM (FtgP2)

258 We've had corrupt, stupid, and inept before; several time in fact. This is our first go round with malignant though.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 26, 2013 02:23 PM (Xlbr8)

259 What do you say we have a few Russian bombers fly over Seattle, just for the photo op? Yup, Reagan and Bush were showboatin' cowboys, but when Obama flies some bombers over disputed territory he's just representin' or somethin'. Sort of like me opening my Visa bill, discovering I owe them three f*cking trillion dollars, and ordering a flyover of Visa headquarters with a squadron of peaceful B-52 bombers. Nobel Prize category peacemakin'.

Posted by: Boring Dude [/i] at November 26, 2013 02:24 PM (1H61p)

260 This is an issue that many people simply don't understand.

Israel is so small that one nuclear weapon could effectively destroy it.

So MAD doesn't work in this circumstance. Preemption is the only rational move.

But Israel also has MAD capacity: definitely in their submarines, and perhaps missiles and bombers.

This is a fight that Iran cannot win, but it is an indication of exactly how insane Islam, Shia Islam, and apocalyptic 12 Imam adherents are.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2013 02:24 PM (oJ5Fd)

261 Well.. I'm sure Iran will do the right thing, They finally are given a voice and have a chance to earn world respect.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 02:25 PM (nqBYe)

262 We've endured bad presidents before. We'll endure this one. Posted by: troyriser Love ya, troyriser, but you sound like someone whose been beaten brutally for so long you have gone numb. *smack!* Thank me later.

Posted by: Meremortal at November 26, 2013 02:26 PM (1Y+hH)

263 CharlieBrown unless something significantly changes in the next few mths I really see how Israelis have any other option but to take em out.

srsly Thank G-d Bibi is in office at this point.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 02:27 PM (nqBYe)

264 "I say we ... nuke the place from orbit. It's the only way to be sure." Seriously.

Posted by: whoever at November 26, 2013 02:28 PM (yUY1h)

265 Thank G-d Bibi is in office at this point.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 06:27 PM (nqBYe)

I agree, although Zombie Jabotinsky would be nice!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2013 02:29 PM (oJ5Fd)

266 somedays are a day best spent in bed under the covers.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 02:29 PM (nqBYe)

267 emes.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 02:29 PM (nqBYe)

268 Well.. I'm sure Iran will do the right thing, They finally are given a voice and have a chance to earn world respect.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 06:25 PM (nqBYe)

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Rush was pointing this out yesterday. Dear Leader and Horseface, through whatever agreement they made, just gave the mullah's nuclear weapons legitimacy.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 02:29 PM (FtgP2)

269 i'm out to take a hot bubble bath and try to recoup my nerves.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 02:29 PM (nqBYe)

270 Soona, at the minumum They gave them enough time to finish the deed!

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 02:30 PM (nqBYe)

271 anyway out.
peace.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 02:30 PM (nqBYe)

272 Putin and the Mullahs are laughing at me after giving me not one but two atomic wedgies....literally.

Posted by: King Barky the Liar at November 26, 2013 02:38 PM (WGm5T)

273 What this agreement does is make it far more likely that the Saudis or other Arab states in the region will allow Israel to use their air space to knock out Iran's reactors. It is clear now that there is no help coming from the US.

I think everyone understands that Obama does not speak for the US and will have no support if he tries to get out of hand in response to any action the Israelis take. Any damage done to US-Israeli relations will only be temporary until someone who is less insane takes office. The only person who seems not to understand all of this is Obama himself.

Posted by: Thatch at November 26, 2013 02:42 PM (qYvEa)

274 I'm waiting for Iran to do the Munich-style football yank on Obummer and his crew soon, and walk away laughing with their nukes while Obummer and friends sputter and spin and try to escape yet another embarrassing debacle for American foreign policy. Maybe Iran will wait to do it in 2015 for maximum comedic effect (for them), but why should they have delayed gratification? I do agree with Ace that Obummer & friends already had already achieved their goal. Israel has once again been left high and dry by the West, with enemies encroaching on her borders.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 26, 2013 02:46 PM (lJaja)

275 "If the President issues what an individual considers an unlawful or unconscionable order, then and only then (and mindful of the possible consequences) would they have the right to refuse that order. " Of course, if you're a civilian being mindful of the possible consequences, you have the right to refuse any order.

Posted by: GalosGann at November 26, 2013 02:47 PM (vW1n3)

276 We could destroy Iran's entire IT infrastructure with one simple Obamacare infection.

Don't fcuk with us, Ali.

Posted by: Fritz at November 26, 2013 02:57 PM (TKFmG)

277 "Asked whether this includes Iran's deeply buried nuclear installations, he responded, "including everything."

Only a nuclear weapon could destroy deeply-buried facilities."

Get yer popcorn ready! I hear the final act is a doozy! (SPOILER: 0bama gets pantsed on foreign policy. AGAIN!)

Posted by: DJ at November 26, 2013 03:05 PM (xkz7E)

278 Wow. Just wow. Obama heckler was a a plant. A WH invited guest. And an illegal alien. I believe NOTHING that comes out of the WH or this administration any more. NOTHING! Didn't Obama say something like "Let him finish." Lies. Lies. And more Lies. And NOTHING else. Pure manipulation! I find the Mullahs more trustworthy! Un-f'ing-believable!

Posted by: USA at November 26, 2013 03:05 PM (VIaw0)

279

Over a year ago during a conversation I said that Israel will only have one shot at destroying the buried Iranian Nuke Facilities and if I were them I would use Nukes to make sure that they were destroyed. The people I was talking with thought I was nuts and said that it would never happen.

I still think that the Israelis will use Nukes on the Iranians and they will use them very soon. The Israelis no longer have any reason to wait for US Diplomats to come up with a good deal or for any help from the US Military. What happens after that I am not sure, but the Iranians scare the hell out of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Egypt and others so I think their responses will be only vocal.

Posted by: PC_80 at November 26, 2013 04:15 PM (By9OB)

280 Why is everyone so fanatical about "deeply buried facilities?" They have to get in and out somewhere.

If you can locate the points of entrance and bomb the heck of them, collapsing entry tunnels, it will a long time before they can get back into them, and anyone trapped inside will have to eat glowing uranium. And once they manage to cart away all the rock to access the hidden chamber, do it again.

Posted by: Adjoran at November 26, 2013 05:50 PM (473jB)

281

Seems a virtual certainty, now, that the Iranians will be getting nuclear weapons.

Thing of it is, though...they're going to be delivered by the Israelis...

IYKWIMAITYD...

Posted by: J.S.Bridges at November 27, 2013 10:47 AM (wf3Kt)

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