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July 18, 2013

IRS Hearings Livestream
— Ace

Sorry, I've posted this late; I've missed Carter Hall's testimony. @LauraWalkerKC said he was "naming names, like a boss."

Here's a preview.

The star of todayÂ’s show will almost certainly be Carter Hull. When his name first popped up, it seemed that Hull might have been at the BOLO nexus, and possibly the key to the scandal. His testimony in depositions didnÂ’t disappoint, either. Instead of being a driver of the effort, Hull told investigators that he had been placed in the Â“demeaningÂ” position of having his approval authority stripped on Tea Party cases, which went to Washington and the IRS chief counselÂ’s office rather than concluded positively for the applicants, as he would have determined.
Expect Issa and Republicans to spend a lot of time with Hull, drawing him out on those points, and with Elizabeth Hofacre as well. She has been a gold mine of information on the lower-level operations, and will likely serve to rebut DemocratsÂ’ attempts to show equivalence between treatment of conservatives and progressives in the tax-exempt unit.

I mentioned Hull's testimony earlier; he claims that he was told to put Tea Party cases through Lerner and her Obama-appointee lawyer Wilkins. Hofacre, meanwhile, complained of interference from on-high in the course of her regular duties.

Hofacre said that she integrated questions from Hull into her follow-ups with Tea Party groups, and that Hull had to approve the letters seeking more information that she sent out to those organizations. That process, she said, was both unusual and Â“demeaning.Â”
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Â“I thought it was over the top,Â” she added, in interviews held by investigators in both parties from the House Oversight and Ways and Means committees. Â“I am not sure where it came from, but it was a bit unusual.Â”

So, Hofacre said that Carter Hull had interfered with her regular job duties, instructing her to ask the Tea Party all sorts of improper questions; and Hull, in turn, says his directives actually came from Lerner and Wilkins.

Here's what the Democrats are saying: 1, "rush to judgment," 2, "politicized," 3, Darryl Issa called Jay Carney a "paid liar," boo hoo hoo, 4, "this isn't much of a scandal," 5, progressives were targeted too.

They're not seeking any information, just flacking and attempting to divert.

Posted by: Ace at 07:50 AM | Comments (291)
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1 Hope Issa really has something...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 18, 2013 07:51 AM (9+ccr)

2 Sounds like great theater, but does anybody think any meaningful consequences will come of this?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 18, 2013 07:52 AM (DrWcr)

3 Fourteenth?

Posted by: Johnnyreb at July 18, 2013 07:53 AM (cDr8Y)

Anyone with a lick of sense knows this came from the white house, which illegally interfered to prevent a fair election.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 18, 2013 07:53 AM (AKAOY)

5 What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 18, 2013 07:53 AM (jsWA8)

6 Low Information Voter: Duhhh...what are the Kardashians doin'?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 18, 2013 07:54 AM (1Jaio)

7 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 07:54 AM (/PCJa)

8 Why the fuck do we not have a special prosecutor on this, Benghazi and F&F???? It's beyond incompetence; it's collusion.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 07:54 AM (+98Gb)

9 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 07:54 AM (/PCJa)

10 I'm gonna sit this one out...

I am already in a lather and I need to go pick up my pistol or have the gunsmith give me an ETA on when it'll be restored.

I have a neat new reflex sight to show him, I want a good day.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 07:54 AM (LRFds)

11 Why the fuck do we not have a special prosecutor on this, Benghazi and F&F???? Exactly. There is no legitimate reason that a special prosecutor has not been named. People should be in jail for this.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 07:55 AM (/PCJa)

12 It's beyond incompetence; it's collusion.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 11:54 AM (+98Gb)

Both parties. Either they are working to end constitutional government, or the train wreck headed this direction is so bad they don't care.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 18, 2013 07:55 AM (AKAOY)

13 Over at Tepid Air, looks like the IRS interfered with Christine O'Donnell's campaign the moment she announced she was running. Say what you will about her, but this government is tyrannical.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 07:56 AM (+98Gb)

14 lets yuck it up....citizens being targeted....gosh it's a knee slapper eh Connelly?

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 07:56 AM (qdzWt)

15 11

Yes, the ones who did and the ones who are helping them cover it up by not investigating.

Posted by: TFG at July 18, 2013 07:56 AM (0XBx+)

16 Given the vapidity of the efforts by Cummings, Connolly, et al to deflect - there seems to be some there there.

If they had a cogent counter argument or explanation of the actions of the IRS, they wouldn't need to resort to the big lies that have been debunked numerous times before.

Posted by: Athos at July 18, 2013 07:58 AM (SNaPm)

17 You know, I am beginning to get just a wee bit steamed at how my country is being destroyed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 07:58 AM (+98Gb)

18 Does anyone think this administration is above death threats to whistleblowers anymore?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 18, 2013 07:58 AM (AKAOY)

19 "I've missed Carter Hall's testimony. @LauraWalkerKC said he was "naming names, like a boss."" It says at the video at your link that the hearing is 'delayed'....so when did Hall testify?

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 18, 2013 07:59 AM (X6akg)

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And my favorite old chestnut:

6. Both sides need to tone down the rhetoric.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 18, 2013 07:59 AM (CJjw5)

21 Obama appoints Wilkins as the point man, that's enough for me.

Posted by: zsasz at July 18, 2013 07:59 AM (MMC8r)

22 Rest assured that if you ever run for office, the IRS run Obamacare system would never leak your medical sexual history.

Posted by: wooga at July 18, 2013 07:59 AM (myr0b)

23 I get the feeling that when it comes to the two parties, on the whole they are both working towards greater centralization of power in Washington. However, the difference comes from the wings. Where are the Rand Pauls and Ted Cruzes of the left side of the chambers who are willing to step up to their party's leadership? I'm not supporting the RNC anymore, but I can't imagine that a bright future doesn't involve the "crazy hobbit" wing of the Republican party. Can't say that about anyone in the Dem party or the Rep leadership, but I can't give up on the Republican party as a whole as long as Paul, Cruz, Jindal, and Walker are the potential future leadership.

Posted by: David at July 18, 2013 08:00 AM (UtRhK)

24 Oh, good, more show-hearings to placate the plebians.

They'll get to the bottom of it this time for sure! Things are going to start happening.

No, really! Pinkie-swearies.

Posted by: shillelagh at July 18, 2013 08:00 AM (hRzu2)

25 It was so great being on vacation for ten days and ignoring the news. My blood pressure was actually normal.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 18, 2013 08:00 AM (32Scy)

26 20 6. Both sides need to tone down the rhetoric. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 18, 2013 11:59 AM (CJjw5) I'd like to "tone down" a few people. And by tone down, I mean DOWN.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 08:01 AM (+98Gb)

27 If Wilkins is the Obama-appointed lawyer, doesn't that mean he's representing Obama at the IRS? How many lawyers take that kind of step without first clearing it with their client? AtC- would YOU ever do something even borderline illegal/unethical for a client without making it very clear what you would be doing, why you would be doing it, and confirming that they had directed you to do so. On paper?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 08:01 AM (/PCJa)

28 the real shame....is that the only ones paying attention are folks like us....and its a minority...unfortunately. Zimmerman and Rolling Stone are the news of the day....oh and of course the new Kardashian kid

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:01 AM (qdzWt)

I'll repeat what I said in the previous thread:

Rhetorical question I know, but where are the patriots in the Democrat Party? Are there literally none? Not a single one that has a shred of honor and understanding of what it means to be an American? No one? Really?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 18, 2013 08:02 AM (lL1xY)

30 Say what you will about her, but this government is tyrannical. Well, when you're in charge and your frame of reference is the governance methods of Indonesian military dictatorships, African communist shitholes, and big city patronage politics, can see why one's perspective on what "right" looks like might be a little....oh, how to say this....skewed.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 18, 2013 08:02 AM (xG6lD)

31 17 JJ Sefton,

My best advice is let it go and do your damnedest to save as many good people as you can...

Part of my rage these 5 years was generated by the mistaken notion we had a chance in hell of stopping the wreck, we don't short of violence and we just don't have enough people willing to do so so all we can do is work, pray, and prepare.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:02 AM (LRFds)

32 looks like the IRS interfered with Christine O'Donnell's campaign the moment she announced she was running.

Burn the witch!

Posted by: IRS stooge at July 18, 2013 08:02 AM (MkZzi)

33 >>>It says at the video at your link that the hearing is 'delayed'....so when did Hall testify?

I don't know. I think that Hall and Hofacre are at the witness table now, but Democrats aren't asking questions; they're just quibbling with Issa.

Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 08:02 AM (/IWYB)

34 Here's what the Democrats are saying:... Darryl Issa called Jay Carney a "paid liar," What?!? You mean Obama is so cheap he won't pay Carney? Disgraceful.

Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 08:02 AM (mCNwt)

35 It needs to be said: The Republican Party exists to hold you down while the Democrat Party rapes you.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 08:02 AM (/PCJa)

36 Are there literally none? Literally and figuratively. None.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 18, 2013 08:03 AM (xG6lD)

37 They're not seeking any information, just flacking and attempting to divert. What else do you do with a busted flush?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 08:03 AM (O2PXL)

38 All of the villains will get away with their crimes. Hell, they'll probably rewarded.

America is a depressing land now that the Proglodytes have taken over.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 18, 2013 08:03 AM (P7hip)

39 re 20: also "both sides did it" and "the important thing is that we work together to make sure this doesn't happen again."

Posted by: Mallfly at July 18, 2013 08:03 AM (bJm7W)

40 20 empire of jeff,

"you got us we both need to chill out now fucker"...

yeah Jeff the song remains the same.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:03 AM (LRFds)

41 6. Both sides need to tone down the rhetoric. And percussion bombs are just the thing to do it.

Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 08:03 AM (mCNwt)

42 So who's representing O'Donnell's suit against the IRS? And, yes, they can deign not to let you sue them, but you can damn well make them do it publicly.

Posted by: zsasz at July 18, 2013 08:04 AM (MMC8r)

[waves hand]

This is not the testimony you are looking for.

Posted by: Obi-Wan Kenobi at July 18, 2013 08:04 AM (Mv/2X)

44 41 6. Both sides need to tone down the rhetoric. And percussion bombs are just the thing to do it. Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:03 PM (mCNwt) A barrage of Screaming Mimis/Nebelwerfer. That would work.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 08:04 AM (+98Gb)

45 35 Allen G,

I've finally come around totally to that POV Allen.

As such I am now free to speed things up by empowering the most massive overreach I can.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:04 AM (LRFds)

46 oh for god's sakes, all they're doing is yapping at each other.

YOU CAN DO THIS LATER. ASK QUESTIONS OF THE WITNESSES.

Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 08:05 AM (/IWYB)

47 I'd like to "tone down" a few people. And by tone down, I mean DOWN.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 12:01 PM (+98Gb)

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And here I was just thinking I'd like to tune up on a couple of these assholes.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 18, 2013 08:05 AM (CJjw5)

48 I'd like to "tone down" a few people. And by tone down, I mean DOWN. Tone down or tune up?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 08:05 AM (O2PXL)

49 20 Here's what the Democrats are saying: 1, "rush to judgment," 2, "politicized," 3, Darryl Issa called Jay Carney a "paid liar," boo hoo hoo, 4, "this isn't much of a scandal," 5, progressives were targeted too. ------------------------- And my favorite old chestnut: 6. Both sides need to tone down the rhetoric. Here's what the RINOs are saying: "Republicans must avoid over-reaching on this (or any) issue or they'll pay for it in the mid-terms." Here's what the low-info crowd is saying: "Has Kate had her baby yet?" Here's what the Free Shit Army is saying: "Any of this effect my free shit?" We're doomed.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at July 18, 2013 08:05 AM (7ObY1)

50 I would say replace DC with a Congress of Whores but it seems they already have that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 08:05 AM (zXm5+)

51 Posted by: LGoPs at July 18, 2013 12:02 PM (lL1xY) I asked the same question, and I don't think they have much of a presence in the federally elected Democratic party. Maybe they exist, but they're so scared of Nancy Pelosi that they are happy to do whatever she says. I can't believe that the everyday guy who goes to work and has voted Democratic since birth would continue to support the party if ABC, CBS, NBC would change tune and begin to act like journalism organizations again.

Posted by: David at July 18, 2013 08:05 AM (UtRhK)

52 Rhetorical question I know, but where are the patriots in the Democrat Party? Are there literally none? Not a single one that has a shred of honor and understanding of what it means to be an American? No one? Really?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 18, 2013 12:02 PM (lL1xY)

Harry Truman knew that there were communist spies in influential positions throughout the US government, but he resisted any efforts to do anything about it because the publicity would hurt the Democrats. Treason is a time-honored tradition for the Dems.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 18, 2013 08:05 AM (29vnO)

53 5, progressives were targeted too Of course they were. For white glove treatment.

Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 08:05 AM (mCNwt)

54 geez....the "witnesses" are sitting there listening to gasbags drone on and on...."on both sides" bipartisan bloviating

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:06 AM (qdzWt)

55 So many ways for obama to extort the citizens. I hope GZ's taxes are squared away. But, of course he voted for that. Dope.

Posted by: tony redenzo at July 18, 2013 08:06 AM (LwRkC)

56 My "tone down" involves a tire iron, quick lime and a ditch...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 08:06 AM (+98Gb)

57 Progressives were targeted? So the IRS wuvs Flo?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 08:06 AM (zXm5+)

58 "Republicans must avoid over-reaching on this (or any) issue or they'll pay for it in the mid-terms." Let me introduce you to a certain cob-logger.

Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 08:06 AM (mCNwt)

59 Let me introduce you to a certain cob-logger. I've been trying really hard not to think about him today.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 08:07 AM (/PCJa)

60 58 "Republicans must avoid over-reaching on this (or any) issue or they'll pay for it in the mid-terms." Let me introduce you to a certain cob-logger. Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:06 PM (mCNwt) His last name isn't Finger, is it?????

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 08:07 AM (+98Gb)

61 My "tone down" involves a tire iron, quick lime and a ditch... The trick is to hoodwink them into digging the ditch themselves.

Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 08:07 AM (mCNwt)

62 In other Corruptocrat BWOSTON STWONG Federally Corrupt LE news....

Whitey Bulger witness found dead...

http://tinyurl.com/o3dqbr8

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:07 AM (LRFds)

63 Maybe we should get that teenage intern to ask all the questions.

Posted by: CDR M at July 18, 2013 08:07 AM (cqZXM)

64 YOU CAN DO THIS LATER. ASK QUESTIONS OF THE WITNESSES.

Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 12:05 PM (/IWYB)

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They can't do that without first thanking the chairman, the witness for showing up today, and all this other Academy Awards speech bullshit that every fucking politician does before getting to business.

I hate them all.

When is one of them going to say "We'll touch dicks later. Right now, you're going to answer my questions, savvy?"

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 18, 2013 08:07 AM (CJjw5)

65 My "tone down" involves a tire iron, quick lime and a ditch... I was sorta hoping you'd say "napalm." But that stuff works too.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 18, 2013 08:07 AM (xG6lD)

66 61 The trick is to hoodwink them into digging the ditch themselves. Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:07 PM (mCNwt) A pistol is a pretty good way to trick them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 08:08 AM (+98Gb)

67 59 AllenG,

easier than most days....

I am relishing the look on his face if they push us to sit out.

It will be "charming".....

you want 11% of 40 million amigo?

No prob I'll get to work showing you what you gave up now.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:08 AM (LRFds)

68 When is one of them going to say "We'll touch dicks later. Right now, you're going to answer my questions, savvy?" I appreciate your wide stance on this issue.

Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 08:08 AM (mCNwt)

69 Holding out for a Fed job....I want a gun and a badge...150k+....and no accountability.

Posted by: BignJames at July 18, 2013 08:08 AM (20Mmk)

70 Alien Invasion Leader , "At last the Earth is ours!"

John McCain, "But you left DC untouched."

Alien Invasion Leader, "I wanted to win."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 08:09 AM (zXm5+)

71 O'Donnell deserves everything she gets. She ruined my dream of Mike Castle voting with the Dems on everything!

Posted by: Karl Rove at July 18, 2013 08:09 AM (YmPwQ)

72 70 Anna Puma,

That would be a CLASSIC Indy Sci-Fi flick...

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:10 AM (LRFds)

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 18, 2013 12:07 PM (CJjw5)

"If I look mean, the cocktail party invites dry up. How was your weekend, was the flight up OK? What are you doing in retirement. Let me set you up at the Golf Course in Arlington. Oh my time is expired, well...Say something abut the IRS, thanks"

Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 08:10 AM (GaqMa)

74 Internal Revenue Service? Never heard of it

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at July 18, 2013 08:10 AM (Pr6hk)

75 What did Issa get out of the F & F hearings? Actual murders occurred there. Answer: nothing.

Posted by: nip at July 18, 2013 08:10 AM (lGVXf)

76 EVERY SINGLE TIME I read "Hofacre" I see "Horseface."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 18, 2013 08:11 AM (4df7R)

77 @75 Yep.

Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 08:11 AM (mCNwt)

78 "If I look mean, the cocktail party invites dry up. How was your weekend, was the flight up OK? What are you doing in retirement. Let me set you up at the Golf Course in Arlington. Oh my time is expired, well...Say something abut the IRS, thanks"

Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 12:10 PM (GaqMa)

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I don't have the time or patience for cocktail parties, so fuck 'em. I do my drinking on the drive home from work.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 18, 2013 08:11 AM (CJjw5)

79 Oh and until people start going to jail over this, I'm gonna be a pessimist and think nothing will happen to anyone. Contempt doesn't count either. (Eric Holder)

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 18, 2013 08:11 AM (0MVzQ)

80 50 States' Rallies. "Who Needs DC?" Local Tenth Amendment types, maybe a congressman or two. Only Fox and Fox affiliates get to interview invited attendees. Everyone else also warned to be on the lookout for the MSM and given business cards on which is typed "Just ask the White House, they'll tell you what to say anyway." Federal Congress cannot (and wouldn't if they could, the fuckers) save us. Only our States can- and the question is if they will.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 08:11 AM (/PCJa)

81 This hearing will ultimately be no different than the previous hearings.

The GOP members of the Oversight Committee will ask the witnesses cogent questions designed to find out who gave the orders to focus attention on all 292 conservative organizations applicants for tax-exempt status during the time frame in question - while the progressive members of the Committee will attempt to deflect, misdirect, and discredit the Committee in an effort to protect the progressives who ordered the abuse of power against their perceived political enemies.

Posted by: Athos at July 18, 2013 08:11 AM (SNaPm)

82 Part of my rage these 5 years was generated by the mistaken notion we had a chance in hell of stopping the wreck, we don't short of violence I still think there was a chance, just that Â“weÂ” didnÂ’t take it. I blame Perry a lotÂ—he was the only real option after some other low-profile dropouts. At the time I think people thought the dropouts would allow a coalescion (I just made that word up) around Perry, but it also meant that when Perry imploded the remaining options just werenÂ’t that good. At that point, the best options were people like Gingrich and CainÂ—and IÂ’m not arguing that they were good options. I have wondered if itÂ’s necessarily a good thing to have too few options at the start of the primaries.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2013 08:12 AM (QF8uk)

83 I hate when a post becomes a dead thread after only 155 comments. You barely get to the OT comedy gold if at all.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2013 08:12 AM (m2CN7)

84 I've got the response to your questions right here

Posted by: Jack Meoff at July 18, 2013 08:12 AM (Pr6hk)

85 Testifying in front of Congress and giving/attending the White House press briefing. Basically the same thing. A lot of non-substantive talk.

Posted by: Gabe Finger at July 18, 2013 08:13 AM (659DL)

86 when they asked Hofacre and Hall if the DOJ or FBI interviewed them and they said yes....why the hell didn't they ask who got in touch with them?....Mueller needs to know

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:13 AM (qdzWt)

oh for god's sakes, all they're doing is yapping at each other.

YOU CAN DO THIS LATER. ASK QUESTIONS OF THE WITNESSES.

Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 12:05 PM (/IWYB)

But then they might get answers, ace, and that would mean something would have to happen.

And anyway, how can you get campaign soundbytes if you don't yap?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 18, 2013 08:14 AM (4df7R)

@78

I do my drinking at work. Its where i do my bestest tinking and drinkingest. I also haz alot of ftree time to wheres my dogdanm flask at?

Obamasucksorrr11111ty.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 18, 2013 08:14 AM (t06LC)

89 I am above the law

Posted by: Eric The Chinless at July 18, 2013 08:14 AM (Pr6hk)

Saw a video that made me think... so went and searched...

Note... there is a TOTAL media blackout about casualties in Afganistan this year...

The US Military is still at War.... the Government and Media, not...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2013 08:14 AM (lZBBB)

91 EVERY SINGLE TIME I read "Hofacre" I see "Horseface." Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 18, 2013 12:11 PM (4df7R) Me too.

Posted by: Mainah at July 18, 2013 08:14 AM (659DL)

92 Could government be any worse if we just legalized bribery, as long as it was documented? Say a weekly statement saying stuff like, Rubio got $100k from Crystal Sugar, Reid got $500k from Male Pedos For The Preservation Of Child Strangling, etc?

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at July 18, 2013 08:15 AM (ZWvOb)

"We've got to get to the bottom of this!"

While bloviating and dick touching and grandstanding.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2013 08:15 AM (BAS5M)

94 Lynch is now trying to try a new talking point: "Progressive Groups are Like the Tea-Party... when you think about it. So it was bipartisan abuse."

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 18, 2013 08:15 AM (UypUQ)

95 Hall = Hull

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:16 AM (qdzWt)

96 What should we do now Valerie?

Posted by: Barry The Bone Slayer at July 18, 2013 08:16 AM (Pr6hk)

97 76 EVERY SINGLE TIME I read "Hofacre" I see "Horseface."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 18, 2013 12:11 PM (4df7R)

You called?

Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at July 18, 2013 08:16 AM (t06LC)

98 Romeo13 there is also a blackout on all the bombings that have occurred in Iraq. The MSM is proving if they don't cover it in 2 minute soundbites on HLN it never happened. And the LIV FSA eat it up.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 08:16 AM (zXm5+)

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 18, 2013 12:11 PM (CJjw5)

Every Cocktail party I go to for my various conferences (well went, no more money) I stepped on someone's toes, pissed someone off, or insulted someone.

I think that what these things should be about robust discussion, people tell me I'm doing it wrong, but I got free booze so I keep going

Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 08:17 AM (GaqMa)

100 Horseface? Did somebody call me?

Posted by: John Kerry at July 18, 2013 08:17 AM (Pr6hk)

101 The MSM is proving if they don't cover it in 2 minute soundbites on HLN it never happened. And the LIV FSA eat it up. Or don't. As the case may be.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 08:17 AM (/PCJa)

102 If you don't know who the pivot man is for this circle jerk , it's you . Meaning us .

Posted by: awkward davies at July 18, 2013 08:17 AM (WK8VM)

103

The trick is to hoodwink them into digging the ditch themselves.

Always worked for me.

Posted by: Pittsburgh Phil Strauss at July 18, 2013 08:17 AM (zF6Iw)

104

91 EVERY SINGLE TIME I read "Hofacre" I see "Horseface."

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I see "hoface".

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at July 18, 2013 08:17 AM (YmPwQ)

105 I don't have the time or patience for cocktail parties, so fuck 'em. I do my drinking on the drive home from work. Avoid bridges in Chappaquiddick.

Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 08:17 AM (mCNwt)

106 76 EVERY SINGLE TIME I read "Hofacre" I see "Horseface."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 18, 2013 12:11 PM (4df7R)

I'm sorry, I was busy not on my yacht. Need something?

Posted by: John Kerry at July 18, 2013 08:17 AM (t06LC)

107 the doofus behind Duncan is mouthing the stats....guess he wrote the point paper

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:18 AM (qdzWt)

108

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2013 12:12 PM (QF8uk)

sorry... but the most powerful force in Economics, is Compound Interest...

And that compounding is working AGAINST the Taxpayer...

And they can only print money for a few years in order to make it look like we are growing... and we are at that limit (interest rates are going up, which means the Debt becomes unsustainable)...

Note... there is NO Real media coverage of the Debt Limit ceiling fight... if it is even going on....

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2013 08:18 AM (lZBBB)

109 ♪♪♪ Ban me!♪♪♪
♪♪♪Ban me! They aughta take a rope and Hang Me!♪♪♪
High from the highest TREEEEEEEEEE♪♪♪
♪♪♪Woman would you weep for me
Whoop...Whoop Woop do do dodedoo doo doo doo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1s7HHnnjU4

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 18, 2013 08:18 AM (XBxv0)

110 Wait, they get cocktails?

I want cocktails.

Posted by: HeatherRadish, fashioning a shiv from a spork w/ the breakroom toaster at July 18, 2013 08:18 AM (/kI1Q)

111 When is one of them going to say "We'll touch dicks later. Right now, you're going to answer my questions, savvy?" *pulls up Congressional Record Archives while scratching forehead, thinking to self, Barney Frank must have said that once or twice.

Posted by: Mainah at July 18, 2013 08:19 AM (659DL)

112 82 Stephen Price Blair,

Eh maybe. I'm proud of what we accomplished with the Tea Party in a way, but the GOP establishment hates us. The hidden land mine of these hearings is I am almost certain the Mike Castle wing of the GOP petitioned the IRS too.

I was wanting Perry as well, I had made up my mind I was not going to be overly vocal and back the winner to the hilt.

The "we need o grow h8er" wing of the party demands we be donk lite and the silent GOP voter sat out more in 08 than 12 but in both and they're also dying off....

the donks won by running out the clock and using the media to break our weak sisters' wills....

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:19 AM (LRFds)

113 96 What should we do now Valerie?

_______

Her fingerprints are all over this....that's one one staffer in the WH had to write that memo about how great she art.....

Posted by: Athos at July 18, 2013 08:19 AM (SNaPm)

114 but I can't give up on the Republican party as a whole as long as Paul, Cruz, Jindal, and Walker are the potential future leadership.

They will never get there...see Col./ex-congressman West.

Posted by: Paladin at July 18, 2013 08:19 AM (LTquJ)

115

Great, Carter Hull is naming names. Where was he when this was all actually happening?

Posted by: @JohnTant at July 18, 2013 08:19 AM (eytER)

116 Is the woman witness going to cry?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2013 08:19 AM (BAS5M)

117 91 EVERY SINGLE TIME I read "Hofacre" I see "Horseface."
---
I see "hoface".

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at July 18, 2013 12:17 PM (YmPwQ)

Oh, you were looking for me.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at July 18, 2013 08:20 AM (t06LC)

118 Issa....shut up!

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:20 AM (qdzWt)

119 90 Romeo 13,

That is because don't look know but Obama is on pace to lose more men per capita than Bush did in the wars...

true story.

and why I in my darker hours ponder using a Louisville Slugger on J listers.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:20 AM (LRFds)

120 Sorry to be a Debbie downer guys but not paying attention to news for sweeps has given me some great perspective on things. There is nothing any of us can do. Obama can and has been directing the US government to take illegal actions to persecute american citizens and businesses that defy him. He can hype up racial resentment without consequence, to include prosecuting or not prosecuting based off of race. He will have doubled the national debt of all presidents combined by the time he leaves office. He can illegally ship weapons to mexico with no consequences. He is using the levers of power to punish his enemies every day and there is 0 check on him because his political party is corrupt and the media whose job it is to inform the people is deliberately censoring information which could hurt him. So there is nothing you or anyone can do he won.

Posted by: Mr Pink at July 18, 2013 08:20 AM (UqwdO)

121 Awww....Issa is thanking them for being here...'we know you're not political' BRB....vomiting.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 18, 2013 08:20 AM (X6akg)

122 What value does the IRS provide?

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:21 AM (qdzWt)

123 Awww....Issa is thanking them for being here...'we know you're not political' God. Fucking. Damn it. Isaa, they are political. If they weren't political, they would have said something back then. Fuck them, and fuck you too you worthless sack of dog-vomit.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 08:21 AM (/PCJa)

124 If I was this Hull guy, I wouldn't get anywhere near Ft Marcy Park

Posted by: Vince Foster at July 18, 2013 08:22 AM (Pr6hk)

125

Great, Carter Hull is naming names. Where was he when this was all actually happening?

I had to protect my phoney-baloney job! And my pension! Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!

Posted by: Carter Hull at July 18, 2013 08:22 AM (zF6Iw)

126

@119

Funny, I have that same Louisville slugger fantasy I use for my happy thought times.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 18, 2013 08:23 AM (t06LC)

127 111 When is one of them going to say "We'll touch dicks later. Right now, you're going to answer my questions, savvy?" Then turn to Elijah Cummings and say, "And you sir will kindly shut the fuck up until we're good and done or I'll shove Sheila Jackson-Lee straight up your ass."

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 18, 2013 08:23 AM (4Vr+0)

128 sorry... but the most powerful force in Economics, is Compound Interest... And that compounding is working AGAINST the Taxpayer... No disagreement there. Sometimes I think the only voting requirement should be a simple math question.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2013 08:24 AM (QF8uk)

129

I begin to long for an errant plane accidentally crashing into the building during a SOTU address (a la that Tom Clancy fantasy where Jack Ryan became president).

SMOD, if ever we needed you to deliver us.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 18, 2013 08:24 AM (ADnWI)

130 OT: I'm trying to get into Orange Is the New Black. I guess I'm sick of criminal culture.

Posted by: Shark Cracka! at July 18, 2013 08:25 AM (cjFRv)

131 why are progressive groups redacted and tea party groups not? just curious

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:25 AM (qdzWt)

132 What value does the IRS provide? They tax Peter so that the big redistribution mechanism we call the federal government can support the fiction they sell the Red Chinese that the treasury can make good on all the debt they run up to pay Paul. Bunco guys call this "salting the mine."

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at July 18, 2013 08:26 AM (V3kRK)

133 The Republican Party exists to hold you down while the Democrat Party rapes you.

And apply the "Ball-Gag".

Posted by: Paladin at July 18, 2013 08:26 AM (LTquJ)

134 Dr. Hook - On the Cover of the Rolling Stone
http://youtu.be/gUjcjUF-urU

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 08:26 AM (zXm5+)

135 Oh goody.....Jim Jordan!

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 18, 2013 08:26 AM (X6akg)

136 I say it again. What Capitol Hill needs is Hercules and a navigable river. Flush ALL of them out: legislators, bureaucrats, SCOTUS, the Preezy, every last fucking one of them, OUT. Then start fresh.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 18, 2013 08:28 AM (4df7R)

137 I say it again. What Capitol Hill needs is Hercules and a navigable river. I'll take Samson and two columns.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 08:29 AM (/PCJa)

138 Shall we revist all those 'Christine O'Donnell Cost Us The Senate!!!!' posts, now? The fix was in.

Posted by: zsasz at July 18, 2013 08:29 AM (MMC8r)

139 If I may go OT for a second? FUCK YOU WINDOWS 8. FUCK YOU AND YOUR AUTOMATIC UPDATE. ADOBE WORKED JUST FINE AND NOW IT'S ACTING FUCKTARDED AND IT'S THE PROGRAM I USE THE MOST YOU DONKEY DICK SLURPING ASSWIPE OF A OS. Thanks. You may go back to your regular rage now.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 18, 2013 08:30 AM (da5Wo)

140 This guy Jordan is tearing it up. #NoHomo #MaybeALittleHomo

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at July 18, 2013 08:30 AM (+lsX1)

141 This guy Jordan is tearing it up. #NoHomo #MaybeALittleHomo Wake me when someone gets frog-marched out of the chamber in chains.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 08:30 AM (/PCJa)

142 Wake me when someone gets frog-marched out of the chamber in chains. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 12:30 PM (/PCJa) Raaaaacist.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 18, 2013 08:31 AM (da5Wo)

143 Someone tell Ace that its HULL Hawkman didn't testify today

Posted by: Trump at July 18, 2013 08:31 AM (M7Awp)

144 Alright, I'm off to a "team lunch" Joy.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 08:31 AM (/PCJa)

145 Thanks. You may go back to your regular rage now. May we send Microsoft's Bob to help you?

Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 08:32 AM (mCNwt)

146

I say it again. What Capitol Hill needs is Hercules and a navigable river.

I'll take Samson and two columns.

I'll take Sodom and Gomorrah.

Posted by: Carter Hull at July 18, 2013 08:32 AM (zF6Iw)

147 Is there any question this is the most corrupt, lawless administration in our history?

But hey, did you know the Daily Caller sent and intern to ask a substantive question at the White House briefing?

Posted by: Marcus at July 18, 2013 08:32 AM (GGCsk)

148 May we send Microsoft's Bob to help you? Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:32 PM (mCNwt) Sure. I haven't cunt punted a mewling quim today. I bet Bob is just the bitch for it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 18, 2013 08:32 AM (da5Wo)

149 Fuck. Off, ass-covering bureaucrat sock.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 18, 2013 08:32 AM (zF6Iw)

150

The worms have been turning! Don't be the last to turn and finger someone else!

Seriously - do not be the last to start singing like a canary. Being the stooge is no fun at all.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 08:34 AM (hLRSq)

151 What? You don't like the auto update thingy? We only want what's best for you.

Posted by: Microsoft cocksuckers from hell at July 18, 2013 08:34 AM (KXm42)

152 I haven't cunt punted a mewling quim today. Loose shit, my wizzle.

Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 08:35 AM (mCNwt)

153 the tsa is searching cars WITHOUT PERMISSION via the dailymail http://tinyurl.com/k2ozfs5

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 18, 2013 08:36 AM (8JJ6O)

154 Just finished ep. 4 of Orange is the New Black, not the best one, but a few decent parts.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 18, 2013 08:36 AM (ZshNr)

155 The Federal government has become so huge and monolithic that short of a "general strike" by the minions for higher wages that results in mass firings ala Ron Reagan, it will continue to metasticize. What's most troubling to me is that certain facets of the Federal government are being used to harass and intimidate the general population, especially those on the wrong side of the aisle politically. I never thought I ever had to fear my own government, I believed in the premise of we the people had the control, somewhere along the line that got upended.

Posted by: Randomized lurker at July 18, 2013 08:36 AM (AnfcZ)

156 Remember when Congress was a separate branch of government, you dem milksops?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 18, 2013 08:36 AM (lKfQG)

157

Here's what the Democrats are saying: 1, "rush to judgment," 2, "politicized,"

1. Yeah, 8 months after a tampered election is not a rush.

2. It sure as hell is politicized - the IRS, by the white house.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 18, 2013 08:37 AM (AKAOY)

158 I liked O'Donnell. She was booed at some college for saying the words separation of church and state were not in the Constitution.

Posted by: Jmel at July 18, 2013 08:38 AM (cfFqn)

159 151 What? You don't like the auto update thingy? We only want what's best for you. Posted by: Microsoft cocksuckers from hell at July 18, 2013 12:34 PM (KXm42) *engine revving* What? This chainsaw? No need to concern yourself with it. Now, you were saying?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 18, 2013 08:38 AM (da5Wo)

160 God damn it. Here's another rage stroke inducing headline via Yahoo. "Press secretary shoots down "ridiculous" high school intern" Fuuuuuuuuckkkk Yooooouu

Posted by: Lauren at July 18, 2013 08:38 AM (ELdpj)

161 oh I got it now....they hold up the tea party apps until they can hire the local barista from down the street....then they give her the applications to "practice" with....kind of OJT....meanwhile she throws it in the bin and continues to file her nails until training commences....which of course never happens IOW..... low level employees screwed up!

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:38 AM (qdzWt)

162 Cochran, I emailed you and EC re: the photos, FYI.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 18, 2013 08:39 AM (4Vr+0)

163 Chaffetz on a rant...., a good rant

Posted by: Al Sharpton Enterprises at July 18, 2013 08:40 AM (aDwsi)

164 Did Issa just cut Cumming's mic?

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 18, 2013 08:40 AM (UypUQ)

165 Cummings starts bullshitting again...., deflecting, dodging, defending the WH

Posted by: Al Sharpton Enterprises at July 18, 2013 08:41 AM (aDwsi)

166

For once, I'm glad I've got a meeting to go to. I can let my rage meter cool off.

See you all tomorrow morning.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 18, 2013 08:41 AM (zF6Iw)

167 162 Cochran, I emailed you and EC re: the photos, FYI. Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 18, 2013 12:39 PM (4Vr+0) *claps hands with glee*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 18, 2013 08:41 AM (da5Wo)

168 164 Did Issa just cut Cumming's mic?

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (UypUQ)

I bet Issa wishes he could use an agonizer on Cummings.

Posted by: joncellius decimator at July 18, 2013 08:41 AM (RD7QR)

169 126 JollyRoger,

the reason it stays a fantasy is our decency and the suspicion the Poppin' Fresh wing would be harder on us than the dems even to show "we're moral"...

it really is why we're doomed.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:41 AM (LRFds)

170 I'm beginning to hate these terms... Let me be clear At the end of the day I want to get to the bottom of it

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:41 AM (qdzWt)

171 Will anyone go to jail? Even lose their job or pension?

Posted by: Thunderb at July 18, 2013 08:42 AM (zOTsN)

172 Anyone still think it's wild speculation that Boner didn't know about this?

Or is it becoming clearer that Boner knew and did nothing--seeing an opportunity to stab the Tea Party in the back (by doing nothing) with IRS's knife? And blame it on the Dems later?

Hey, anyone want to find the number of times Boner has praised (a) the Tea Party (b) candidates or Congressmen supported by the Tea Party?

Hmm.

Would it kill the guy to stand up for the one group he owes his Speakership to?

Nah.

Better to chum up with Washington insiders and help Obama pass some sort of amnesty. (which BTW, is another dagger directly aimed at the Tea Party.)

Like I said before, you want to kill amnesty, tie this to Boner. He'll make a deal to kill amnesty if he gets out of this. Don't appeal to his better nature, appeal to his self-interest.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 18, 2013 08:42 AM (VjL9S)

173 Pictures? What pictures?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 08:43 AM (zXm5+)

174

(1) IIRC there is no special prosecutor statute any longer.

(2) Who would appoint a special prosecutor if we did have one (hint: it isn't the House).

(3) If you expected to go from testimony to a hanging within 24 hours (or a couple of months) you really are forgetting how hearings work. Watergate took a few years from start to finish. So did Iran-Contra. Keep your outrage, but temper it with the realization that the entire system was designed - purposely designed - to go slowly.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 08:43 AM (hLRSq)

175 I get tired of people being thanked for having plum jobs and benefits on the taxpayers back. How about pointing out that they are an EMPLOYEE, not a guest at a cocktail party.

Posted by: Al Sharpton Enterprises at July 18, 2013 08:43 AM (aDwsi)

176 Let me be clear

At the end of the day

I want to get to the bottom of it

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 12:41 PM (qdzWt)

Sounds like a haiku, or else Reggie's love song for Barry:

Let me be clear

At the end of the day

I want to get to the bottom of you

Posted by: joncellius decimator at July 18, 2013 08:43 AM (RD7QR)

177 Will anyone go to jail? Even lose their job or pension? Posted by: Thunderb at July 18, 2013 12:42 PM (zOTsN)
Sure, all the Tea Party people complaining about it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 18, 2013 08:43 AM (VtjlW)

178 To think..... we USED to live in a free country as little as 5 years ago. I no longer trust ANY institution, Government or otherwise. I am sad for my kids.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 18, 2013 08:44 AM (32Ze2)

179

Every time I see that BOLO reference I sit back in my chair and remember how much I enjoy reading Keith Laumer's excellent tales of the Dinochrome Brigade. Classic Sci Fi stories with super powerful self-aware tanks. What's not to love. Just don't have time to read anymore but the memories sustain.

A Short History of the Bolo Fighting Machines . . .
The Night of the Trolls . . .
Courier . . .
Field Test . . .
The Last Command . . .
A Relic of War . . .
Combat Unit . . .

Ahhhh, good times, good times.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2013 08:44 AM (MdV+j)

180 172 Royal Oil,

I am almost certain that at least a good portion of the Cantor wing of the House caucus joined the mules in demanding investigations into "corporate donations and abuse of the PACS" and then "quit watching" knowing they'd attack right and not left.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:44 AM (LRFds)

181 From Pat Dollard's place about Wilkins: "Before joining the IRS, he served on the Democratic staff of the Senate Finance Committee and, while in private practice at a Washington law firm, represented pro bono Jeremiah WrightÂ’s Trinity United Chuch against charges from the IRS that it was abusing its tax-exempt status. " http://patdollard.com/2013/06/irs-chief-counsel-used-to-be-jeremiah-wrights-lawyer/

Posted by: zsasz at July 18, 2013 08:44 AM (MMC8r)

182 Mrs. Baloney deflects, launches into cover for the WH. Doesn't ask any relevant questions..., so far

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 08:45 AM (aDwsi)

183 Posted by: joncellius decimator at July 18, 2013 12:43 PM (RD7QR) huh....I'm a poet and didn't even know it.

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:45 AM (qdzWt)

184
Our forefathers would be shooting people by now. Just sayin'.

This comment intended for entertainment purposes only.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 08:45 AM (8sCoq)

185

YOU CAN DO THIS LATER. ASK QUESTIONS OF THE WITNESSES.

Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 12:05 PM (/IWYB)

You know what sort of sacrifice you are asking from venal narcissistic blowhards, don't you?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 08:46 AM (hLRSq)

186 Is this Maloney broad for real?

Posted by: Ma Bell at July 18, 2013 08:46 AM (RLdcX)

187 They could be found with a dead hooker or a live kid and nothing will happen

Posted by: Thunderb at July 18, 2013 08:46 AM (zOTsN)

188 (3) If you expected to go from testimony to a hanging within 24 hours (or a couple of months) you really are forgetting how hearings work. Watergate took a few years from start to finish. So did Iran-Contra. Keep your outrage, but temper it with the realization that the entire system was designed - purposely designed - to go slowly.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 12:43 PM (hLRSq)

So what you are saying is this is insurance in case Obama tries for a third term, since it appears that nothing will happen until just before the next presidential election.

Unfortunately, IF Obama does go for a third term, congress won't matter much will it?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 18, 2013 08:47 AM (XBxv0)

189 It would make my life easier if we just ...abolish the IRS

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:47 AM (qdzWt)

190 >To think..... we USED to live in a free country as little as 5 years ago. I no longer trust ANY institution, Government or otherwise. I am sad for my kids.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 18, 2013 12:44 PM (32Ze2)

agreed- except I still have faith in our armed forces- not the brass in the Pentagon, but the actual soldiers sailors airmen marines and coast guardsmen

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 08:48 AM (8sCoq)

191

12:08PM ET. Folks, as you know, I hate talking about myself but let's go through today's articles and audio clips that reference me.

2:56 PM ET And that's it for today's audio clips. Now let me tell you about a new Two-If-By-Tea promo...

Posted by: El Rushbo at July 18, 2013 08:48 AM (29vnO)

192 Baloney looks like Day 4 of a 7 day bender

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2013 08:49 AM (BAS5M)

193 188 Skandia Recluse,

He is correct at any rate, that said I am not convinced this is not the patented GOP "goddamnit we tried!" maneuver as we're about to see I suspect on AMIGO GRANDE!

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:49 AM (LRFds)

194 a-GAYnst? who says that?

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:49 AM (qdzWt)

195 We're not a democracy. Go back to civics lass scrunt

Posted by: MSNBC at July 18, 2013 08:49 AM (r98SZ)

196 In Un-America, people would be wearing ass-grooves in prison bunks by now.

But NOOOOO! I gotta live in plain, old America, the one where everyone is wearing a goatee.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 18, 2013 08:49 AM (xvZYu)

197 I agree. Get rid of the IRS and income tax. Its time for a modern tax system.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 18, 2013 08:49 AM (UypUQ)

198 Maybe day 6

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2013 08:50 AM (BAS5M)

199 ) 184 Our forefathers would be shooting people by now. Just sayin'.
This comment intended for entertainment purposes only.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 12:45 PM (8sCoq)

But you see, we're more sophisticated and modern, and we have the Internet.

They used horsepower, we have electricity - see?   Automatically more enlightened.    (/sarc)

"Progress" is so overrated - material improvements have been accompanied by spiritual and intellectual debasement.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 18, 2013 08:50 AM (oY6Yp)

200 195 We're not a democracy. Go back to civics lass scrunt

_________

We don't teach civics anymore. It's far more important to teach classes on Women's Studies, LGBT Studies, Latino Studies, and Native American Studies.

Posted by: NEA Union President at July 18, 2013 08:52 AM (SNaPm)

201 http://tinyurl.com/mrsrx62

FoxNews- Japanese Interceptors Interdict Russian Bombers Practicing Runs at US Bases

Da Comrade....thanks for fucking reset button....

I'm certain Bark will respond with exercise of our own...

fucking pussy

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:52 AM (LRFds)

202 There is no scandal here. This is not the infomration you are looking for - you can move on.

Posted by: georgeofthedesert at July 18, 2013 08:52 AM (Eq2MX)

203 "Progress" is so overrated - material improvements have been accompanied by spiritual and intellectual debasement. I'd say that was retarded if I knew what it meant.....SUR.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at July 18, 2013 08:52 AM (MMC8r)

204 Our forefathers would be shooting people by now. Just sayin'.

This comment intended for entertainment purposes only.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 12:45 PM (8sCoq)

-----------------------------------------------------------

Duly noted. (whispering into my sleeve)

Posted by: NSA at July 18, 2013 08:52 AM (32Ze2)

205 Really hope they didn't already give Lerner immunity. That little pre-claiming the 5th speech is looking worse and worse in light of these latest revelations.

Oh, and #7 will be some variation of:
"Yes, mistakes were made, but lets not get bogged down in the details of who did what. They've apologized so let's move along. The people are counting on us to solve so many other issues, like immigration reform...."

Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2013 08:52 AM (2mSdf)

206 "Yes, mistakes were made, but lets not get bogged down in the details of who did what. They've apologized so let's move along. The people are counting on us to solve so many other issues, like immigration reform...." Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2013 12:52 PM (2mSdf) Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 18, 2013 08:53 AM (VtjlW)

207

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 18, 2013 12:47 PM (XBxv0)

No, what I am saying was written in English and in fairly simple words. I am not going to sound them out for you.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 08:54 AM (hLRSq)

208 Somewhat in jest. Somewhat not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHBqJj0znYo&feature=youtube_gdata_player We have a serious problem in this country with factionalism overriding everything else, and frankly, it is the Left causing the issue. Classic republican virtue could die within a generation.

Posted by: Seems appropriate at July 18, 2013 08:55 AM (X7lfh)

209 Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who. Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 18, 2013 12:53 PM (VtjlW) *shifty eyes* Yes...let's not bicker... *shifty eyes*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 18, 2013 08:55 AM (da5Wo)

210 Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who. Posted by: alexthechick
----------------

Agreed. At this point, what difference does it make?

Posted by: Hillary [s]Clinton[/s] [s]Rodham[/s] Clinton at July 18, 2013 08:55 AM (aDwsi)

211 It's far more important to teach classes on Women's Studies, LGBT Studies, Latino Studies, and Native American Studies.

You forgot Condom Studies, Fisting Studies, and Global Warming.

Posted by: HeatherRadish, fashioning a shiv from a spork w/ the breakroom toaster at July 18, 2013 08:56 AM (/kI1Q)

212 207 MikeyNTH,

Right so a policy, executed in an activity that we have direct oversight through Congress on targeting thousands of people since 2010 just "fell through the cracks" did it?

My mind agrees with your pint Mike, and I think you know I am a serious enough student of history to understand what you're getting at I do hope you understand the genuine fear that this is a game of shadow puppets by the complicit is not offered in bad faith?

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:56 AM (LRFds)

213 I hope this Hull guy doesn't drive a Benz.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 18, 2013 08:57 AM (QxSug)

214 *shifty eyes* Yes...let's not bicker... *shifty eyes* Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 18, 2013 12:55 PM (da5Wo) Oh, hey, how are you enjoying your time as Tribute?

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 18, 2013 08:57 AM (VtjlW)

215 Sarah Palin is playing with her food. And shooting a gun.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/n8tj4bz

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2013 08:57 AM (HjPtV)

216 208 Seems Appropriate,

It's why I am in the 125 MPH camp.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:57 AM (LRFds)

217 Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 12:54 PM (hLRSq)
No need to be insulting.
What's with the hostility, dude?
Opinions are illegal now?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 18, 2013 08:57 AM (XBxv0)

218

You forgot Condom Studies, Fisting Studies, and Global Warming.

*fapfapfapfapfap*

Posted by: Obligatory Sandra Fluke Sock at July 18, 2013 08:58 AM (NF2Bf)

219 Ha-Farce?......is she even listening?....they have said this woman's name over and over

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:58 AM (qdzWt)

220 Let me know when one congressman or a witness stands up, points at a Dem, and says, "You're completely full of shit."

Because that would be something. This dog and pony show isn't.

Posted by: grognard at July 18, 2013 08:58 AM (/29Nl)

221 217 Skandia Recluse,

I suspect he simply wants patience and "unity", hey I empathize I was still there as recently as oh 9 months ago.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:59 AM (LRFds)

222 Opinions are illegal now?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse

Dingdingding!

Posted by: The IRS at July 18, 2013 08:59 AM (NF2Bf)

223 What kind of middle name is "Chipman" ? An Intel worker ?

Posted by: Carter Chipman Hull at July 18, 2013 08:59 AM (e8kgV)

224 Posted by: grognard at July 18, 2013 12:58 PM (/29Nl) Agreed

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 08:59 AM (qdzWt)

225 How amusing, they have begun tagging employees as Dem or Republican. Why don't we just conduct a survey of the players and see what their political bias might be?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 09:00 AM (aDwsi)

226 I think the worst part of the US Government are the people who comprise it. I propose term limits for EVERYBODY.

House: 6 terms
Senate: 2 terms
Federal Bench: 10 years or age 70
All federal employees: 20 years or age 65

And here's one more: no former government employee, from janitor to President, may lobby or otherwise conduct business with the federal government ever

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 09:00 AM (8sCoq)

227 Oh, hey, how are you enjoying your time as Tribute? Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 18, 2013 12:57 PM (VtjlW) I have no idea what you mean. And that scares the hell out of me.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 18, 2013 09:00 AM (da5Wo)

228 The convicted war criminals from the Nuremburg trial are looking up at this utterly amazed that the 'just following orders' defense is actually working....

Posted by: Athos at July 18, 2013 09:00 AM (SNaPm)

229 Yawn, wake me when some Prog/Com gets led away in cuffs.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 18, 2013 09:01 AM (0HooB)

230 Let me know when one congressman or a witness stands up, points at a Dem, and says, "You're completely full of shit."
-------------

You haven't been listening

Posted by: Trey Gowdy at July 18, 2013 09:01 AM (aDwsi)

231

To think..... we USED to live in a free country as
little as 5 years ago. I no longer trust ANY institution, Government or
otherwise. I am sad for my kids.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 18, 2013 12:44 PM (32Ze2)

I'm sorry... but this is just not true. Email collecting was started un Bush. Phone record collecting, under Bush... No knock Raids? Yep... Stopping people on the highway for 'checks'... NON Enforcement of Identity Theft Laws for Illegal Immigrants? Bush... Not enforcing Expulsion orders? Bush... Murder via Drone? Bush... Attempt to circumvent Habeus Corpus? Bush...

It was a Kinder Gentler Tyranny.... but Tyranny none the less.... it was just the Gloves had not come off yet...

And those of us on the RIGHT who warned of this? Were called 'Conspiracy Nuts'.... hell.... I was 'asked' to no longer comment at Hot Air for my (and I quote) Jeffersonian Fantasies....

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2013 09:02 AM (lZBBB)

232 228 Athos,

certainly I know ze orders vere illegal but what could I do???

He vas my boyfriend er Fuh er Preizedent!
Javol!

//Lerner

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 09:02 AM (LRFds)

233 216 I unfortunately don't follow you. Break break I think we have got to realize there is what we know is going on now, and what we get the general public to act on. An important thing will be to solidify as much of the right as possible from "general public" to "ready to draw a line". The other thing is we simply have to assume this is the new way of doing business from the Left, and that we might not win the talking heads wars.

Posted by: Seems appropriate at July 18, 2013 09:02 AM (X7lfh)

234 Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 18, 2013 01:00 PM (da5Wo)

Because I am a giver.....

http://tinyurl.com/mudnysr

NSFW

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2013 09:03 AM (gqgiP)

235 How did that happen? I copied it from another thread!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2013 09:03 AM (gqgiP)

236 Damn BC....
Barrelpaloosa.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 09:04 AM (aDwsi)

237 232 Romeo 13,

There are those of us, and I am guilty, who while knowing and agreeing there were the dangers and warning Bush would not be the PotUS forever finally fell silent....

this is more my fault than yours old boy we were at Tepid together after all

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 09:04 AM (LRFds)

238 Oops...., CBD, NOT BC

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 09:04 AM (aDwsi)

239 CBD- into the barrel and DANCE, MONKEY

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 09:04 AM (8sCoq)

240

CBD, that image gives you a Get Out of teh Barrel Free pass.

Use it wisely.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 18, 2013 09:05 AM (0HooB)

241 > How did that happen? I copied it from another thread!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2013 01:03 PM (gqgiP)

ALWAYS copy to Notepad, THEN copy to here

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 09:05 AM (8sCoq)

242 Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 01:04 PM (8sCoq)

Bullshit! I'm being set up by Whitey.

I swear, I copied it from a previous thread.

I hate this software!

And damn, the barrel is ripe!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2013 09:05 AM (gqgiP)

243

certainly I know ze orders vere illegal but what could I do???

He vas my boyfriend er Fuh er Preizedent!

Javol!

//Lerner

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:02 PM (LRFds)

Word!

Posted by: Lt. Calley at July 18, 2013 09:05 AM (lZBBB)

244 Â“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.Â”

Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at July 18, 2013 09:06 AM (SNaPm)

245 CBD - Blame the Cincinnati office...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 09:06 AM (aDwsi)

246 I have no idea what you mean. And that scares the hell out of me. Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 18, 2013 01:00 PM (da5Wo) Now why on Earth would you be scared that you may possibly have been volunteered as Tribute by some completely unknown person to do some alternately dignified thing? That's just a ridiculous assumption to make.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 18, 2013 09:06 AM (VtjlW)

247

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 12:56 PM (LRFds)

Sven, I am angered by this, that federal agencies were used for the purposes of denying civil rights to citizens. My gut feeling - and what I am hearing supports that - is that this was organized by the upper levels of the administration. This is just beginning, this is the congressional hearings. The court cases filed by groups who were targeted (and I bet a lot of groups are looking at that now that it is known the delays weren't due only to bureaucratic ineptitude but actual malice) will be next.

We're now at the starting-to-name-names point. This where it gets fun as person after person gets to sit down and decide if they want to expend their life-savings on lawyers (and no matter how well a federal supervisor is paid the lawyers needed will cost more) or just start singing like a canary. My experience is that the agency bureaucrats will sing and that the songs sung are going to be very entertaining.

This, however, takes time. The entire process is designed to take time. To expect a person to be hauled off in chains out of a congressional hearing room is purest fantasy, though.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 09:06 AM (hLRSq)

248 ALWAYS copy to Notepad, THEN copy to here

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 01:05 PM (8sCoq)

That's what I did with the original. And it worked in another thread.

This place is possessed by the ghosts of shitty programmers who died in 1995.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2013 09:06 AM (gqgiP)

249 234 Seems Appropriate,

You say you don't follow me?

The point is that the GOP seems at best to be able to knock about 70MPH from the collision which draws out the damage to probably a generation or two of slouching towards Weimar, whereas if in lieu of "taking the best I can hope for" I hold Obama's foot to the floor with more power he will wreck the vehicle within a decade.

I favor the decade because I am a parent, and my son is not to blame for this mess.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 09:07 AM (LRFds)

250

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 18, 2013 12:57 PM (XBxv0)

Sorry; I get more sarcastic at times than I ought to be. I got to watch that.

See, I was hasty. Hasty is bad. I am a bad example.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 09:08 AM (hLRSq)

251 250 Copy all.

Posted by: Seems appropriate at July 18, 2013 09:08 AM (X7lfh)

252 245 Â“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.Â”

Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at July 18, 2013 01:06 PM (SNaPm)

And if it takes THREE times to figure out its Enemy Action?

I OWN you....

Posted by: US Military at July 18, 2013 09:08 AM (lZBBB)

253 did not come from WH....check Republican IRS employee....check Citizens United decision....check

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 09:08 AM (qdzWt)

254 This chick deflects from the issue. Attacks Citizens United.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 09:09 AM (aDwsi)

255

This, however, takes time. The entire process is designed to take time. To expect a person to be hauled off in chains out of a congressional hearing room is purest fantasy, though.

A Boy can dream, can't he?

The larger point of all this if no one is punished, this will not stop. Something fairly dramatic needs to happen to wake up the LIV's from their Kardashian stupor.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 18, 2013 09:10 AM (0HooB)

256 You haven't been listening

Posted by: Trey Gowdy at July 18, 2013 01:01 PM (aDwsi)

I must have missed where he stood up, pointed, and told Elijah Cummings (or other Dem) that he is completely full of shit and ought to be ashamed of himself.

He's forceful, but he dodges around it. Shaming people indirectly only works if they feel shame.

Posted by: grognard at July 18, 2013 09:11 AM (/29Nl)

257 it wasn't 40 years ago?....heh

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 09:11 AM (qdzWt)

258
I don't get outraged. Long past it.

I have changed my voter registration to Indy and backed out of social media (too many moonbats). I don't argue with them any more.

If I didn't live in Jersey, I'd be looking for a small, serious, militia to join. In Jersey, all I can be is a speedbump...hopefully a pointed one.

Posted by: trainer says HI to the NSA at July 18, 2013 09:11 AM (K5X44)

259

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 18, 2013 01:10 PM (0HooB)

I didn't say it was a bad fantasy*, just a fantasy.

*As opposed to a naughty fantasy which, ironically, is actually a good fantasy.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 09:12 AM (hLRSq)

260 Posted by: trainer says HI to the NSA at July 18, 2013 01:11 PM (K5X44)

You want in on the NY/NJ moron meet-up e-mail list?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2013 09:12 AM (gqgiP)

261 This, however, takes time. The entire process is designed to take time. To expect a person to be hauled off in chains out of a congressional hearing room is purest fantasy, though.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 01:06 PM (hLRSq)

This has been known for MONTHS... and an investigation does NOT take that much time... if there is one really being done.

Heck... as of last reports it was STILL HAPPENING! Many of these groups are STILL in Limbo...

This is CRIMNAL... as it was a Conspiracy to abrogate the Free Speech Rights of groups, during an ELECTION CYCLE. Yet the FBI Head does not even know the STATUS of 'his' investigation... even when he KNOWS he is going to Congress to testify ABOUT that Investigation...

Sorry.... but asking the Government to investigate itself, is futile.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2013 09:13 AM (lZBBB)

262 ADOBE WORKED JUST FINE AND NOW IT'S ACTING FUCKTARDED AND IT'S THE PROGRAM I USE THE MOST YOU DONKEY DICK SLURPING ASSWIPE OF A OS.

Go in to the Control Panel, find Installed Updates. Sort the updates by date, so you can find the latest one. You can uninstall the update.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 09:13 AM (J79eW)

263 ADOBE WORKED JUST FINE

Those 4 words in that order do not parse. Adobe is populated by coders who flunked out of working on Minx.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2013 09:15 AM (OevbG)

264 263 ADOBE WORKED JUST FINE AND NOW IT'S ACTING FUCKTARDED AND IT'S THE
PROGRAM I USE THE MOST YOU DONKEY DICK SLURPING ASSWIPE OF A OS.

Go in to the Control Panel, find Installed Updates. Sort the updates by date, so you can find the latest one. You can uninstall the update.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 01:13 PM (J79eW)

Probably just auto updated to IE 10.... which means you will probably have to reinstall your adobe products to get IT 10 to recognize them...

Having this prob with a LOT of clients...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2013 09:16 AM (lZBBB)

265 Duckworth rocked when she slammed a VA benefits scammer....I mean ROCKED!

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 09:16 AM (qdzWt)

266 248 Mikey NTH,

Bob Hoskins delivered what were perhaps the only wise words to have ever fallen from Kruschev's mouth...

Vodka is a luxury we have. Caviar is a luxury we have. Time is not.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 09:17 AM (LRFds)

267 You want in on the NY/NJ moron meet-up e-mail list?

Will there be explosions?

Posted by: trainer says HI to the NSA at July 18, 2013 09:17 AM (K5X44)

268 Heh, heh..., Gowdy
Light 'em if you got 'em..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 09:21 AM (aDwsi)

269

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:17 PM (LRFds)

Then it is unfortunate that the system we have is one that goes slowly. Sort of what Rumsfeld was saying about war and the military.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 09:21 AM (hLRSq)

270 love me some Gowdy

Posted by: Kawfytawk at July 18, 2013 09:21 AM (qdzWt)

271 See, I was hasty. Hasty is bad. I am a bad example.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 01:08 PM (hLRSq)

Nah, 'cuz what I post is often crazy, kookie. Who would ever thing the president of the united states would violate the letter, and spirit of the law? I've been thinking this since January 2009, and it's crazy talk, right up until the time Obama goes for the whole enchilada, and it's still crazy even then. Unless you have some working knowledge of human history and human behavior.

Obama is what he is, and he gets away with it because no one knows how (politically) to stop him.

I don't know what it's going to take, prayer maybe. What's left?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 18, 2013 09:23 AM (5tw9G)

272 Gowdy smackin' the hearing around.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2013 09:23 AM (BAS5M)

273 270 Mikey NTH,

I grasp that, I also fear that the system was not designed for an idiocracy stupid enough to elect a man openly running on obliterating it whose prime loyalty was to international marxism.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 09:24 AM (LRFds)

274 Great! D.C. rep Norton gonna lay some knowledge on us proles.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2013 09:27 AM (BAS5M)

275 Ms. Norton is the reason mute buttons were invented.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 18, 2013 09:27 AM (X6akg)

276 274 270 Mikey NTH,

I grasp that, I also fear that the system was not designed for an idiocracy stupid enough to elect a man openly running on obliterating it whose prime loyalty was to international marxism.

----------------------

We stopped learning from history - and remembering the observations of de Tocqueville who predicted just this eventuality roughly 175 years ago.

Posted by: Athos at July 18, 2013 09:27 AM (SNaPm)

277 Ms Norton you fucking bitch.....

"take advantage" of a court ruling is often rendered as "following the fucking law".....

that is all

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 09:30 AM (LRFds)

278

"take advantage" of a court ruling is often rendered as "following the fucking law".....

that is all

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:30 PM (LRFds)

Like.... Abortion Ms. Norton?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2013 09:36 AM (lZBBB)

279 279 Romeo 13,

Oh that court ruling is different it trumps the original Constitution....

//Moonbat

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 09:41 AM (LRFds)

280 Oh my God, did Issa just apologize for the use of the word "boy" in his cookie-jar formulation?

Posted by: DrSteve at July 18, 2013 09:47 AM (wwKgz)

281 Someone tell Ace that its HULL Hawkman didn't testify today But how awesome would it be if he did.

Posted by: Solo4357 at July 18, 2013 09:47 AM (NBOA5)

282 This is an unending nightmare.

Posted by: James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, and John Jay (aka Publius) at July 18, 2013 09:55 AM (7tka4)

283 I don't see Shulman or Steve Miller quaking in their boots out of fear for the wrath of Congress. They are protected, Congress is toothless.

Posted by: ejo at July 18, 2013 09:55 AM (GXvSO)

284 284 I don't see Shulman or Steve Miller quaking in their boots out of fear for the wrath of Congress. They are protected, Congress is toothless.

________________

Of course it is - the GOP in Congress has already repeatedly proven that they are afraid of being attacked by the lamestream media and will surrender their so-called principles when confronted / extorted by the Democrat leadership.

Posted by: Athos at July 18, 2013 10:00 AM (SNaPm)

285 Why the fuck do we not have a special prosecutor on this, Benghazi and F&F????

It's beyond incompetence; it's collusion.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

JJ - I've come to agree with Mark Levin on this. The repubics have not insisted on a Special Prosecutor as THEY want to remain in the limelight and have the image of actually doing something which of course they are not.

The egos of our political class is killing us literally. One of my favorite quotes from Reagan was "Imagine how much we could accomplish if no one cared about who got the credit"

Posted by: Cheri at July 18, 2013 10:02 AM (G+Wff)

286 281 Dr Steve,

Yes sir...

grasp that yet?

Issa is a showpony not an attack dog I suspect.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 10:07 AM (LRFds)

287 I watched the entirety of the earlier hearings. I turned this one off after a few minutes. Nothing will come of this, and it is gutwrenching. Everyone really, really think about that and let the full import sink in: nothing will come of this. Your voice is now subject to very real, very coordinated oppression from literally the highest level of government. There is no recourse either legal or political, only extra-political.

Posted by: shillelagh at July 18, 2013 10:12 AM (hRzu2)

288 People, none of it matters. A plurality in America thinks Obama was behind this whole IRS mess directly, hates his policies and believes we are heading in the wrong direction, and yet he still receives close to 50% overall approval and is considered an excellent leader.

The world simply no longer makes sense. Who are the people which approve of the job Obama is doing and yet disagree with everything he does? It is madness.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at July 18, 2013 10:17 AM (vZ9o3)

289 If the president was using the I.R.S. to pester and pressure his political opponents, wouldn't that be punishable by impeachment?

Posted by: franksalterego at July 18, 2013 10:37 AM (omVzF)

290 Look, a squirrel!

It's the Democrat way, and I'm a Democrat!

Posted by: Andy at July 18, 2013 10:43 AM (JmqIf)

291

when can the tea party members, help move these inquiries along.

would a class-action civil suit against irs, and lerner, and others help.

now with hull, lerner wouldn't look so good taking the fifth.

hull is a game changer, and maybe encourage others to talk.

Posted by: theyjustcantstop at July 18, 2013 09:21 PM (Cboq8)

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