October 05, 2013
— Purple Avenger Obama was just warming up with the WWII memorial, now he's upped his game by several orders of magnitude shutting down the ocean.
...Charter guides received a message from the National Park Service this week informing them that they are not permitted to take clients fishing in Florida Bay until the feds get back to work. That means that more than 1,100 square miles of prime fishing is off limits between the southern tip of the mainland to the Keys until further notice.HT JonesThe closing affects not only fishing guides, but anyone with a license to conduct business in the park, including tour operators and paddling guides — anyone with a Commercial Use Authorization permit, said Dan Kimball, superintendent of Everglades and Dry Tortugas national parks.
Biscayne National Park is also off limits. Enforcement rangers will be on duty...
Go BIG or go home
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Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 05, 2013 07:20 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 07:20 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:21 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Prez'nit Neptune at October 05, 2013 07:21 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 05, 2013 07:21 AM (bCEmE)
>>>>Poseidon just might get pissed at that.<<<<<
Barry will just send the army to the beach to gather sea shells and declare victory.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 07:22 AM (P/gm7)
Posted by: zombie at October 05, 2013 07:22 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:22 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Low Information Voter at October 05, 2013 07:22 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Andy at October 05, 2013 07:22 AM (0ZQCB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 07:22 AM (a4Omg)
Department’s request to halt proceedings in the dispute over “Operation
Fast and Furious.”
+++
Appointed by Barack Obama
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 07:23 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:23 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Low Information Voter at October 05, 2013 07:23 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 05, 2013 07:24 AM (TGA2G)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 07:24 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Zippity at October 05, 2013 07:26 AM (gVkoR)
Border patrol agents have already been ordered to stand down and not intercept drug/human smugglers.
The southern border is wide open for terrorists right now
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 05, 2013 07:26 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2013 07:26 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: His Majesty King Obama at October 05, 2013 07:26 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 07:27 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:27 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 07:27 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: BuckIV at October 05, 2013 07:27 AM (CLfqv)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2013 07:27 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: Elinor at October 05, 2013 07:27 AM (TCqhy)
what they give they can take away.
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:28 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: backhoe at October 05, 2013 07:28 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 05, 2013 07:28 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Waking up is hard to do at October 05, 2013 07:28 AM (FM5pv)
BTW...when does open rebellion begin? .... just ask'en NSA!
Posted by: Paladin at October 05, 2013 07:29 AM (+Wvn3)
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at October 05, 2013 07:29 AM (IPz9m)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 07:29 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 05, 2013 07:30 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 05, 2013 07:30 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at October 05, 2013 07:31 AM (bTAc1)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 05, 2013 07:31 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Purp at October 05, 2013 11:28 AM (9MLX+)
Don't expect the head ewok to reimburse your expenses
.
(Although you'd get a nice trip to the keys).
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 05, 2013 07:31 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2013 07:31 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 07:31 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 05, 2013 07:32 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:32 AM (8sCoq)
Let's roll up the sleeves, spit in our hands, and start slitting throats.
Metaphorically speaking, of course.
Posted by: Just a squirrel, trying to get his nu at October 05, 2013 07:32 AM (nJIZA)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 07:32 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at October 05, 2013 11:31 AM (bTAc1)
No doubt. The problem is what can we do about it? Boner is getting ready to compromise...
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at October 05, 2013 07:32 AM (IPz9m)
Posted by: Barky Obammy at October 05, 2013 07:33 AM (MnSla)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2013 11:31 AM (N/Sup)
It's giving me a haddock
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:33 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 07:33 AM (HjPtV)
This will just do wonders for next quarters GDP numbers.
Pubbies need to keep up the message, each and every day, that they're willing to negotiate with teh SCOAMF and The Pederast Obstructionista Hairy Reed. Keep showing pix at the half-empty table, and announce it at every mic and camera.
Tell the truth for once, and they might be surprised at how much good will and elections they can win.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 05, 2013 07:33 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:33 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Jones in CO
he wants this. its in the playbook
Posted by: thunderb at October 05, 2013 07:33 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 07:34 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 07:34 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Gidget at October 05, 2013 07:34 AM (tfg7i)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at October 05, 2013 07:34 AM (bTAc1)
Posted by: jwb7605 [i](L.I.B.)[/i][/u][/b] at October 05, 2013 07:34 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at October 05, 2013 07:34 AM (aqORt)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 07:35 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Tami at October 05, 2013 11:32 AM (bCEmE)
Failed in the sense of getting the Democrats to agree, which of course, implies that the way to "succeed" is to accomodate them... yea....
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at October 05, 2013 07:35 AM (IPz9m)
Posted by: no good deed at October 05, 2013 07:35 AM (k55Fc)
El Presidente has overplayed his hand. All those times that you may have said "this guy being raised overseas doesn't think like an American", and someone called you racist probably.
But here is where it comes into play. People will not blame the nebulous tea party/GOP caucus combination. It's too abstract. But the jackass grinning on the golf course, is not abstract... and I'm starting to think the blame for this stuff is going to be laid at the emperor's feet.
I was not in favor of shutting down the govt. I thought our best bet was to force 100% implementation and pray for a majority in the senate to undo the mess that had been done when the whole thing implodes. But damn... this may actually work do our advantage despite the media, and the fact that there is no possible way they will allow us to win the messaging battle on this. The people are stupid... but not that stupid.
So I am signed up for the long haul, let's see where this goes.
Posted by: dr. shatterhand at October 05, 2013 07:35 AM (wGCtp)
Posted by: Aviator at October 05, 2013 07:35 AM (DI+ja)
Posted by: thunderb at October 05, 2013 07:36 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 07:36 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:36 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 05, 2013 07:36 AM (TZjxi)
Posted by: Auntie Doodles at October 05, 2013 07:36 AM (yMVcQ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 07:36 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 05, 2013 07:37 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Meggie McMac at October 05, 2013 07:37 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 05, 2013 07:37 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: thunderb at October 05, 2013 07:38 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 05, 2013 07:38 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 05, 2013 11:37 AM (8JJ6O)
They already have... that woman driving around the capitol.
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at October 05, 2013 07:38 AM (IPz9m)
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at October 05, 2013 07:39 AM (/lWM8)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 05, 2013 07:39 AM (DI+ja)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 07:39 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 05, 2013 07:39 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 07:39 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at October 05, 2013 07:40 AM (lpu5i)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:40 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 05, 2013 07:40 AM (0It32)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 07:41 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Aviator at October 05, 2013 07:42 AM (DI+ja)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 05, 2013 07:42 AM (TZjxi)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 05, 2013 07:42 AM (0HhTt)
Posted by: backhoe at October 05, 2013 07:42 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: lindafell at October 05, 2013 07:42 AM (PGO8C)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 05, 2013 07:42 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Waking up is hard to do at October 05, 2013 07:43 AM (FM5pv)
The Dems are living in a bubble. The MSM is doing them no favors.
That Catholic Chaplain story linked at #30 is a must read. The administration is getting vicious.
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 07:43 AM (HjPtV)
"U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson granted the Justice
Department’s request to halt proceedings in the dispute over “Operation
Fast and Furious.”"
Ah, so the kabuki theater is all about that. And they expect Republicans to blink first.
Posted by: Decaf at October 05, 2013 07:43 AM (ttwBw)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 05, 2013 07:44 AM (TZjxi)
fk it i feel it's all pickereling with my brain.
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:44 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 05, 2013 07:44 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: A Conservative Teacher at October 05, 2013 07:44 AM (idosS)
BREAKING: #DC police spokesman: Man who set himself on fire on National Mall has died of his injuries
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:44 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Aviator at October 05, 2013 07:45 AM (DI+ja)
Posted by: Barry the Sunkist King at October 05, 2013 07:45 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 05, 2013 07:45 AM (TZjxi)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 05, 2013 07:46 AM (MnSla)
"Biscayne National Park is also off limits. Enforcement rangers will be on duty..."
Enforcement park rangers? When did they become an essential service? I had no idea Yogi and Booboo were in such dire straits. (OK, different park, but the idea is the same.)
Posted by: Decaf at October 05, 2013 07:46 AM (ttwBw)
House passes bill to retroactively pay federal workers after government shutdown ends
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:47 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: no good deed at October 05, 2013 11:35 AM (k55Fc)
That's what I was was wondering, in a way. If the governor of Wyoming, for instance, were to find his balls, could he annex the Wyoming portion of Yellowstone National Park, and send out the Wyoming National Guard to turf out the park rangers and open the park for public use?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 05, 2013 07:47 AM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 07:47 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 07:47 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:47 AM (8sCoq)
Maybe we should have a National Sushi Day.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 05, 2013 11:42 AM (TZjxi)
****
Oh, if you knew sushi like I know sushi.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2013 07:48 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 11:47 AM (8sCoq)
Uh, why?
How about giving the rest of us a retroactive 90% tax cut for the shutdown, eh Boner?
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at October 05, 2013 07:48 AM (IPz9m)
Gona take a Governor with a pair to do it...anybody hear from Jan Brewer yet?
Posted by: Paladin at October 05, 2013 07:48 AM (+Wvn3)
Posted by: Waking up is hard to do at October 05, 2013 07:48 AM (FM5pv)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 07:48 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Radar at October 05, 2013 07:48 AM (KzmOC)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 05, 2013 07:48 AM (A/ga/)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:48 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 11:47 AM (HjPtV)
there ya go
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:48 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 05, 2013 07:48 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: F. Lee Bailout at October 05, 2013 07:49 AM (nodit)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 07:49 AM (P/gm7)
Desperately seeking #ShutdownSobStories: White House soliciting tales ofwoe
http://tinyurl.com/pd6k5jw
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 07:49 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Paladin at October 05, 2013 11:48 AM (+Wvn3)
AZ offered to staff Grand Canyon NP using state dollars and the Regime said no
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:50 AM (8sCoq)
Victims Once More, Head Start Families Struggling Under Shutdown
http://tinyurl.com/ovfmvxt
“I was bawling on Interstate 10,” Maxwell said. “It just hit me. I feel so bad for Matthew being stuck in the house and I’m not having the money to put him in another program.”
But somehow, Ms Maxwell summoned her courage .. for little Matthew ...
The morning after breaking down in her car while on the interstate, Maxwell arranged for a relative to watch Matthew so she could go to her cleaning job. It was tough to leave her child. He cried and cried, she said, asking if she was going to come back home.
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 07:50 AM (aTXUx)
99 Ok, who started the puns?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 05, 2013 11:41 AM (sFQyf)
**raises hand timidly, slinks off to mow the lawn**
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2013 07:51 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 05, 2013 07:51 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 05, 2013 07:51 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: Prez'nit Ahab at October 05, 2013 07:51 AM (Dwehj)
Seems like a win-win: if citizens accept this then he's grabbed a whole new level of federal power, and if citizens fight back he's got the skirmish he's been prepping DHS, etc. for with all of their studies and training pin-pointing the tea party/people who believe in constitutional rights as the biggest threat.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2013 07:51 AM (JRmiD)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 07:51 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 07:51 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 05, 2013 07:52 AM (TZjxi)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:53 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 07:53 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 05, 2013 07:53 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: loneduck at October 05, 2013 07:53 AM (trhwS)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 07:54 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: PJ at October 05, 2013 07:54 AM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:54 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Prez'nit Stymie at October 05, 2013 07:54 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 07:54 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 07:55 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: loneduck at October 05, 2013 11:53 AM (trhwS)
we'll skate by
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:55 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 05, 2013 07:55 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Orlandocon ette at October 05, 2013 07:55 AM (SldZ2)
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 07:55 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:56 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 07:56 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 07:56 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 07:56 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:56 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 07:57 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 07:57 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 05, 2013 07:57 AM (TZjxi)
Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2013 07:57 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:57 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: loneduck at October 05, 2013 07:57 AM (trhwS)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 05, 2013 07:57 AM (MnSla)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 07:57 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Waking up is hard to do at October 05, 2013 07:57 AM (FM5pv)
Posted by: Ludwig Olsen at October 05, 2013 07:57 AM (3GuQx)
Posted by: Paladin at October 05, 2013 07:57 AM (+Wvn3)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 05, 2013 07:57 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: no good deed at October 05, 2013 07:58 AM (k55Fc)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 07:58 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 07:58 AM (duTpJ)
"Starting on Monday, Lord Obama will not permit air to be breathed until he gets his way"
I wouldn't be surprised.
Posted by: Decaf at October 05, 2013 07:58 AM (ttwBw)
If I were a charter captain and could afford the fuel costs I'd invite my buddies/best customers out for a free day of private sport fishing. Maybe arrange with my fellow captains to share the load/cost and rotate vessels.
Ditto for any other concessionaires - if they are going to put you out of work might as well have some fun.
The State of Florida also needs to step up and advise anyone harassed by the Feds to file a complaint.
Posted by: ThomasD at October 05, 2013 07:59 AM (sPW8y)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 07:59 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 05, 2013 07:59 AM (8JJ6O)
The List: Unecessarily Shut Down By Obama to Inflict Public Pain http://bit.ly/1gdRg1i
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 07:59 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 05, 2013 08:00 AM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:00 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 05, 2013 08:01 AM (BAS5M)
"The southern border is wide open for terrorists right now"
Purp, I think Obama was just making sure they didn't miss the message.
Posted by: Decaf at October 05, 2013 08:01 AM (ttwBw)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 11:58 AM (duTpJ)
it certainly won't kelp
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 08:01 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Vilos Cohaagen from Total Recall at October 05, 2013 08:01 AM (mETGQ)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:01 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: backhoe at October 05, 2013 08:02 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 08:02 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 08:02 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 05, 2013 08:02 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:02 AM (duTpJ)
College friends (I know, it's California) have been complaining on FB that the media is "too neutral".
Let's see what's wrong with this paragraph.
- We're only dealing with CRs, which are not budgets.
- The House passed a CR proposal to the Senate which has been rejected, which is not "refusing to sign off" on a spending bill.
- It doesn't even make sense to talk about the House "signing off" on spending bills, seeing how the House STARTS them per the Constitution.
On a happier note, I have Captain Crunch. Nom.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2013 08:03 AM (0wHyk)
"They're in rebellion, and are no longer legitimate."
Inspector Asshole, who is going to stop the first black president? Me? No. You? We've all been cowed.
Posted by: Decaf at October 05, 2013 08:03 AM (ttwBw)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:03 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:05 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:05 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:07 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 05, 2013 08:07 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:07 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 08:08 AM (P/gm7)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:08 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Ghost of The Great Communicator at October 05, 2013 08:09 AM (rSIYI)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:09 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:10 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 08:11 AM (P/gm7)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:11 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 08:11 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 08:11 AM (P/gm7)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 05, 2013 08:12 AM (SzAZ7)
"On Thursday Mark Levin cited several Congressional sources who have told him that Obama has no intention of negotiating with Congress on the debt, which is just under $17 trillion, the highest in U.S. history. When unfunded liabilities such as Social Security and Medicare are added in, the real debt is over $125 trillion — a figure so astronomically high that the country has no hope of ever paying it back. Uncontrolled spending has led the nation to this point.
According to Levin, Congressional sources say that Obama does not want any limits on his spending ability, in spite of the fact that the Constitution specifically gives Congress the power to control spending. Further, the use of the 14th Amendment to bypass Congress has never been done before. Thus, such an act would be an entirely new “interpretation” of the 14th Amendment and would raise a plethora of Constitutional issues concerning separation of powers."
Is Shutdown Theater a distraction or is he testing the waters?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2013 08:12 AM (JRmiD)
***
Yes, that's it exactly. The MFM just isn't left-wing enough.
Posted by: cool arrow at October 05, 2013 08:12 AM (WMsq+)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:12 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:13 AM (duTpJ)
Posted by: cool arrow at October 05, 2013 08:14 AM (WMsq+)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 05, 2013 08:15 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:15 AM (duTpJ)
http://tinyurl.com/nknvwvo Posted by: Tami at October 05, 2013 11:53 AM
Tweet of support from a Park Service drone who wants us all to feel sorry for her even though she can't stand us ...
Traci Degerman @TraciDegerman
@GidgetWA @VP They feel 'justified' because they are 'paying my salary,' ignoring the fact that I pay taxes too. Probably more than they do.
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 08:16 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Lizlem at October 05, 2013 08:17 AM (43C0x)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 08:17 AM (AO9UG)
@GidgetWA @VP They feel 'justified' because they are 'paying my salary,' ignoring the fact that I pay taxes too. Probably more than they do.
***
Arrogance, elitism, and projection. Yep, she's definitely a leftist.
Posted by: cool arrow at October 05, 2013 08:18 AM (WMsq+)
Posted by: nip at October 05, 2013 08:20 AM (jI23+)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 08:20 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 12:16 PM (aTXUx)
Does that lady think her own personal taxes can support her own salary? Math don't work.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2013 08:22 AM (0wHyk)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:22 AM (duTpJ)
@GidgetWA @VP They feel 'justified' because they are 'paying my salary,' ignoring the fact that I pay taxes too. Probably more than they do.
A Federal Employee? Doubtful.
Posted by: garrett at October 05, 2013 08:23 AM (3Ofwh)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:25 AM (duTpJ)
Obama is all-in. He's always understood the power of audacity. There is a point beyond which he knows Republicans will not go. Not even Ted Cruz will go there. "There" is the point beyond which awfulness and evil have no relatable context for Americans and even the contemplation of which is so deeply uncomfortable to them that they'll form all manner of denials, deflections and displacements to escape its reality. That is, Obama is breaking through into the realm of literally inconceivable badness, if he hasn't already gotten there. He knows the media will never call him out or identify this epic break, because not only do they secretly stand in awe of the brute political power to achieve it but exist within the same carefully circumscribed world of Washington conduct as Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and all the others. To confront Obama on his own terms as the audaciously transgressive and dangerous alien figure that he is would require a kind of super-human, or rather equally alien, counter-narrative moral force. There simply is nobody in our political realm that can manage this.
Obama knows this. He knows his powers in this pursuit just as he knows the inherent -- really, the unalterable -- weaknesses and limitations of his opponents.
Posted by: rrpjr at October 05, 2013 08:25 AM (KONYf)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 08:25 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 05, 2013 08:25 AM (4eDvT)
It ‘says I’m dead’: Obamacare shoppers thwarted by identity verification process
http://tinyurl.com/nv8hovz
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 08:26 AM (aTXUx)
I said fix the damn thing and leave my personal life out of it.
***
Wet Dream!
Posted by: cool arrow at October 05, 2013 08:26 AM (WMsq+)
Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2013 08:26 AM (sdi6R)
The polarization is intense in this country. It may simply be at the point of York versus Lancaster, Montagu versus Capulet.
Hatfields v McCoys
Fred Sanford v Aunt Esther
Alpha Betas v Lambda Lambda Lambda
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 05, 2013 08:27 AM (BAS5M)
That's why I bought a space heater for the coming winter.
Posted by: Low Information Voter at October 05, 2013 08:28 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 08:29 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: NYC Parent at October 05, 2013 08:30 AM (2jX5o)
>>"Yes, the willingness of government employees to follow nonsensical orders is very disturbing. Even though they complain about it, theyÂ’re still doing it anyway. "
Welcome to East Germany, 1960. It's where Obama has always wanted to take us.
Posted by: rrpjr at October 05, 2013 08:30 AM (KONYf)
Pres Obama says what bothers him about the Tea Party is that "if they don't get 100% of their way," they "threaten economic chaos."
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 08:30 AM (aTXUx)
I would go there because something has to give. If we just keep humming along, there is nothing else that has a remote chance of stopping Obama and his agenda.
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at October 05, 2013 08:31 AM (IPz9m)
Posted by: ejo at October 05, 2013 08:31 AM (GXvSO)
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Unlike the Democrat party, for whom economic chaos is a given, whether they get their way or not.
Posted by: cool arrow at October 05, 2013 08:33 AM (WMsq+)
Posted by: rrpjr at October 05, 2013 12:25 PM (KONYf)
Hmmm. Sounds very familiar. Where I have heard that recently?
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 05, 2013 08:33 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 08:33 AM (a4Omg)
Not inciting anything. Just makin' historical comparisons....
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Is Biden allowed to have sharp knives?
Posted by: cool arrow at October 05, 2013 08:34 AM (WMsq+)
Posted by: Low Information Voter at October 05, 2013 08:35 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: nip at October 05, 2013 08:35 AM (jI23+)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 05, 2013 08:35 AM (A/ga/)
Posted by: Lizlem at October 05, 2013 08:36 AM (KzHNA)
****
At the dinner table he wears an eye patch, a helmet and his fork has a cork on it.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 05, 2013 08:36 AM (fvV0D)
Posted by: Prometheus at October 05, 2013 08:36 AM (duTpJ)
And stupid at all times.
Posted by: cool arrow at October 05, 2013 08:37 AM (WMsq+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 08:37 AM (a4Omg)
That must be Julia.
Posted by: Prez'nit Composite at October 05, 2013 08:38 AM (Dwehj)
Borders ? open and unguarded
National parks ? Closed
Do svydanie, Amerikwa, and President Gavnoyed
Posted by: Ash Heap of History at October 05, 2013 08:38 AM (HJQ6Q)
Posted by: Patrick Henry at October 05, 2013 08:39 AM (kirkz)
Posted by: cool arrow at October 05, 2013 08:40 AM (WMsq+)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 11:22 AM (P/gm7)
Don't forget wave their swords at the ocean.
Posted by: Berserker at October 05, 2013 08:41 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: biancaneve at October 05, 2013 08:44 AM (2sR50)
Posted by: buzzion at October 05, 2013 08:44 AM (LI48c)
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When has he done anything else?
Posted by: cool arrow at October 05, 2013 08:45 AM (WMsq+)
Posted by: NYC Parent at October 05, 2013 08:45 AM (2jX5o)
Posted by: NYC Parent at October 05, 2013 08:46 AM (2jX5o)
>>"If Republicans cave now,Obamawill know thathe can do anything he wants with impunity."
The only thing he and the Left fear is the Tea Party. They never expected it and remain astounded and enraged by its durability. It's drawing out their venom, which will either kill us all or kill them.
Posted by: rrpjr at October 05, 2013 08:48 AM (KONYf)
Jake Tapper @jaketapper 6m
Reuters Analysis: IT experts question architecture of Obamacare website
Posted by: George Costanza at October 05, 2013 08:48 AM (aTXUx)
For a Catholic Priest to be not allowed not to give a mass for troops who are in hot zones is awful. For the priest to go along with it is even worse, if that's possible.
What would Jesus do? Not Chicago Jesus, the other one. Go for a walk on Biscayne Bay?
Posted by: dirks strewn at October 05, 2013 08:48 AM (kfcYC)
Posted by: Dan at October 05, 2013 08:49 AM (m3gf3)
Posted by: Dan at October 05, 2013 08:50 AM (m3gf3)
America has a Royal Ocean now?
I guess at a certain point why bother saying they are trying to provoke something? If they provoke enough and treat people like slaves enough, it will work no matter what is said.
Posted by: Beagle at October 05, 2013 08:50 AM (sOtz/)
"All the Speaker has to do," says Sen Reid, "is find the courage to defy the Tea Party for the good of the country" & vote to open Govt.
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 08:50 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: 4theBoys at October 05, 2013 08:52 AM (BCJ7U)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 08:53 AM (AO9UG)
>>"All the Speaker has to do," says Sen Reid, "is find the courage to defy the Tea Party for the good of the country" vote to open Govt.
There you go. It's all right there -- the mindset, the fear, the strategy. Get the Speaker to reject and betray the Tea Party as his civic duty. Of course no republican would ever challenge Reid or Obama to denounce and reject the radical Left. Do most republicans even concede the existence of something called the "radical left."
Posted by: rrpjr at October 05, 2013 08:54 AM (KONYf)
Posted by: Keena at October 05, 2013 08:56 AM (RiTnx)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 08:57 AM (DmNpO)
C'mon do I really have to point out to people here how easy it is to fuck off when you are at work.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 09:00 AM (P/gm7)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 01:00 PM (P/gm7)
The problem are those who actually *want* to carry out those orders....
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at October 05, 2013 09:01 AM (IPz9m)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 09:01 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: nip at October 05, 2013 09:02 AM (jI23+)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 12:50 PM (aTXUx)
And all reid has to do is find courage to defy the slimy ass sucking COMMUNISTS he works for. Oh thats right, he's one too. Its the tea party wing of the republicans against the communist wing of the democrats. The dems want to sit back and sound all reasonable, but they need to be hammered as communists.
Posted by: Berserker at October 05, 2013 09:03 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 09:03 AM (AO9UG)
NBC: Police Remove Vietnam War Veterans at Memorial Wall http://shar.es/KVdNL
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For safety. Provoking conflict, spending additional money, and acting like Nazis, for safety.
Posted by: Beagle at October 05, 2013 09:05 AM (sOtz/)
NBC: Police Remove Vietnam War Veterans at Memorial Wall http://shar.es/KVdNL
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 09:05 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Buzzion at October 05, 2013 09:06 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 09:06 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at October 05, 2013 09:07 AM (E8IHS)
John McCormack @McCormackJohn 5m
NBC: Police Remove Vietnam War Veterans at Memorial Wall http://shar.es/KVdNL
I can't help it. Now I'm crying.
I HATE hate bastard!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 01:01 PM (DmNpO)
Thats a big fucking mistake. King scumbag is messing with the wrong people now. Those million bikes that showed up a few weeks ago, they'll do it again.
Posted by: Berserker at October 05, 2013 09:07 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 09:08 AM (AO9UG)
I'm pretty sure the stylebook says he should be referred to as Harry "Fuck kids with cancer" Reid.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 09:08 AM (P/gm7)
"bakerman1444
I got on the [Obamacare] website and enrolled in just a few minutes. I bought the lowest Bronze Plan for $237 per month but after subsidies it will only cost $76 per month. The deductible is $7200 per year. My preferred provider doctor is Sawahiri Jakronerthi who just graduated from the Krakatoa School of Medicine and Palm Weaving, and my preferred provider hospital Is Marylin's Nail Salon and Surgery Center. I am so blessed."
double +1 !
Posted by: Hari Seldon at October 05, 2013 09:08 AM (fJNR2)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 09:11 AM (AO9UG)
"So we sit here until they figure out they fuckin’ lost.”- Rep. @RepJimMcDermott ~
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 09:11 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 09:14 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Soona at October 05, 2013 09:14 AM (KQ9aX)
Posted by: PaleRider at October 05, 2013 09:15 AM (ql12X)
Further proof that a majority of Americans are fucking trolls.
Posted by: Fritz at October 05, 2013 09:17 AM (x2W/k)
really i'm just dumbfounded by it all.
this is not what i was taught in school as a wee lass.
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 01:18 PM (nqBYe)
I was taught in school that sometimes you DO march in winter with rags tied to your feet to defeat scumbag tyrants.
Posted by: Berserker at October 05, 2013 09:20 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: buzzion at October 05, 2013 09:21 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Dan at October 05, 2013 09:21 AM (m3gf3)
hands off my uterus!
i still have my flowered skirts and potato sack tops.
yeah i guess i got the wrong message as a kid
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 09:21 AM (nqBYe)
FB has locked down 2M Bikers to DCs State Websites-Not able to upload pics from WWII MEMORIAL-RT @BreitbartNews @SenTedCruz @SenMikeLee
FB = Facebook
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 09:22 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 09:23 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: PaleRider at October 05, 2013 01:15 PM
They were ordered not to beat the hippies. Today's Gestapo Goons will follow Barry's orders to beat, mace, tase, etc
Posted by: kbdabear at October 05, 2013 09:24 AM (aTXUx)
I will participate.
Posted by: no good deed at October 05, 2013 09:25 AM (k55Fc)
Posted by: Dan at October 05, 2013 09:25 AM (m3gf3)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 09:26 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: runningrn at October 05, 2013 09:27 AM (PLOz8)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 09:27 AM (nqBYe)
You know, there are a lot of Nam vets still spry enough to drop a serious beatdown on some park police.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 09:28 AM (P/gm7)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 09:30 AM (nqBYe)
Fuck 'em. Go fishing. If they stop you, record them on your phone.
Posted by: qzy at October 05, 2013 09:31 AM (p1Nug)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 01:30 PM (nqBYe)
Oh they're already getting paid no matter what. The bill to pay backpay is for the ones that are currently sitting at home. The Shutdown is little more than a paid vacation for them now. The only people getting fucked now are those the Obama chooses to punish. Private businesses and the American people, veterans in particular.
Posted by: buzzion at October 05, 2013 09:32 AM (LI48c)
The TEA Party needs to call itself a religion based in the US founding documents. Could help hold off the legal hounds for a while. The US Civil Religion, found mainly in the Declaration of Independence and Preable to the Constitution overlaid over a largely, but not exclusively, Christian country.
That belief system is being demonized and scoped.
I have long suspected the Founders created a quasi religion whether they intended to or not. A legal contract and oath-based republic has to have religious zeal in its principles to survive.
Facing off against collectivist drones with their social justice class-based dogma, greedy bureaucrats and haughty politicians who think of themselves as above everyone else, and sharia-pushing sweet-talking cultural jihadis is not going to be easy. They are all going after our kids first.
(Please let the spacing survive, oh Pixy)
Posted by: Beagle at October 05, 2013 09:34 AM (sOtz/)
"Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."
....how could it be worse?
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 09:37 AM (P/gm7)
https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA
Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2013 09:37 AM (JRmiD)
C'mon do I really have to point out to people here how easy it is to fuck off when you are at work.
Hey, come on now! Don't get too radical now.
(sent from work)
Posted by: PMRich at October 05, 2013 09:51 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 05, 2013 09:52 AM (uUXp6)
I believe the religion in Sarah Hoyts Darkship series is based on that idea.
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I will check that out.
I was reading a 10th C. opinion* on Abercrombie not being noticed properly to sustain an EEOC claim under Title VII or something. Reading the majority on what a religion is under the relevant decisions got me thinking the Tea Party could be considered a religion in many ways. "Nature's God" is sufficient really. Sort of a watchmaker rationalist gloss over traditional religion.
I realized the Tea Party will be attacked mercilessly in part because it can't slot itself in to a protected class.
*(Over at Atlas Shrugs. Bummer there is some weird "great tits"-Rick Perry-Weasel Zippers feud. Seriously. 
Posted by: Beagle at October 05, 2013 09:53 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Chilling the most at October 05, 2013 10:02 AM (gxtMZ)
Polygamy here we come baby!
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013
Well, it is hard for 2 people of the same sex to conceive a child...
Posted by: runningrn who's MIL is from HI at October 05, 2013 10:06 AM (PLOz8)
Posted by: Bronco Bama at October 05, 2013 10:07 AM (1I4sj)
Posted by: Mandy at October 05, 2013 10:08 AM (Nx76m)
Posted by: Bronco Bama at October 05, 2013 10:12 AM (1I4sj)
Hey, we may not be particularly bright here in the Sunshine State, but we are surly and violent--so we got that going for us.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 10:14 AM (P/gm7)
Did you notice I haven't shut down NPR? Even though they're on the federal airwaves. Not gonna do that either. Haven't figured out yet how to hurt or blame Republicans with that one.
PBS is still on too.
Posted by: runningrn who's MIL is from HI at October 05, 2013 10:20 AM (PLOz8)
Posted by: runningrn who's MIL is from HI at October 05, 2013 02:06 PM (PLOz
We're working on that.
Posted by: Chinese Petri Dish at October 05, 2013 10:30 AM (Nx76m)
Posted by: Jimmy B at October 05, 2013 10:42 AM (61B4w)
John McCormack @McCormackJohn 5m
NBC: Police Remove Vietnam War Veterans at Memorial Wall http://shar.es/KVdNL
I can't help it. Now I'm crying.
I HATE hate bastard!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 01:01 PM (DmNpO)
Flaming skull?
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 01:11 PM (AO9UG)
The day they arrest a veteran or handcuff an old guy in a wheelchair I am there. Have already informed husband. I am not kidding.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen of Tea Party, Eleventy District at October 05, 2013 11:35 AM (baL2B)
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also ;WASHINGTON – A judge has suspended activity in a dispute over documents between the Justice Department and Congress because of the government shutdown.
U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson granted the Justice Department’s request to halt proceedings in the dispute over “Operation Fast and Furious.”@WZ
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:19 AM (nqBYe)