1 Bill Frist

2 At this rate, O'Keefe is probably going to be killed by one of these lefty douchebags sooner or later.  How many enemies has he made so far?

We need more people like him.

3 Meh. Everyone knows they are hypocrites. I don't think catching hypocrites buys much. Get them committing "gun crimes." Like David Gregory. But nobody gives a crap about that, either. The burning. Let's get on with it.

4 Like Breitbart?

5 We either make the elites live by the rules they impose on the rest of us or we give up the game entirely. So. We're fucked then. Good to know.

6 O'Keefe is probably going to be killed by one of these lefty douchebags sooner or later. How many enemies has he made so far?

We need more people like him.

Posted by: EC at January 15, 2013 11:04 AM (GQ8sn)

Like Breitbart?

(Makes WAY more sense when I copy/past the comment I'm responding to.)

7 So. We're fucked then.

Good to know.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 15, 2013 11:06 AM (VtjlW)

My thoughts run along those lines.  When they aren't running along pointy elbow lines. 

8 One of our people was let go today at work and apparently her husband is making physical threats against the company. It's gonna be a great day.

9 O'Keefe must have finally got out from underneath the BS charges for entering the federal building in LA.  He had been restricted to the State until that was cleared up.


And everyone knows these liberal gun grabbers are hypocrites.

10 Anyone else hearing rumblings about a hastily-organized series of Pro-2A demonstrations at various state capitols on Saturday?  Someone needs to get these cats herded and organized for a good showing pronto.

11 O'keefe is a right winger who doesn't show willingness to compromise.

12

6 -

 

I think it's a reasonable question. 

 

13 "End of the Innocence" 
'While lawyers dwell on small details'

14 You actually sounded surprised. Did you think that New York State was American or something, Drew? It's been a foreign land for decades - has less in common to America than Ottowa does.

15 In related new, Gander Mtn called yesterday afternoon. My Mossberg has arrived and I'm picking it up this afternoon. Then ordering a tactical stock for it.


Hey! Does that mean I officially will own an EBG??? Sweet.

16 6 -

I think it's a reasonable question.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2013 11:09 AM (TOk1P)

I think so too.  I'm actually somewhat surprised it's not being pursued (out loud, at least). 

17 BCochran, still won't save you from Polly.  She is a clever girl.

18

Related: New York state sucks. Without any public debate, the State Senate passed a sweeping gun control measure in the middle of the night. I guess they wanted to do it a month to the day of the Sandy Hook massacre.

 

I   challenge someone to ask Cuomo why it was so important to pass this foolish legislation on the    month anniversary of Sandy Hook, while    the    daily          minority-heavy     death toll of    gun violence in      major cities    --   say, Chicago -- gets    no such    memorialization.    Why does NY care so   much about dead white children but not dead black children?    And either way, why would NY state pass legislation that will further endanger people and lead to MORE gun violence -- like, say, CHICAGO   did?

19 Sigh. Agree with Alex @ 6. And Glenn Beck keeps railing on and on about passive resistance in the face of the inevitable draconian gun laws. A la MLK and Ghandi. The only problem with that being, of course, that the people with which those two dealt were overall fundamentally decent folk. Leftists, on the other hand, always seem to lean toward liquidation.

20 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

21 This line from a reader at Insty, you all need to read it and let it sink in. Because that is where we are, there is no moral component to obeying the law anymore. And those that think they are above the law have no claim upon its protections either:

"What the decision to not prosecute Gregory while simultaneously insisting that the magazine ban law that he violated is important means is that there is absolutely no moral component to our legal system.

The only reason to not violate the law is from a reasonable fear of getting caught if you donÂ’t have enough juice to get out of it. This also has interesting implications for the jury system.

LetÂ’s see how well this new way of organizing society works out."

22 Gosh....that Toure guy is so well spoken, huh?

23 Everyone knows they are hypocrites. I don't think catching hypocrites buys much. It helps if the bag limit has no amount restrictions.

24

I watched The Patriot last night again, and while it has some highly fictionalized aspects to it, I think it does a great job showing the true application of the weapons folks had around the house.

I have not considered the current president tyranical up to this point, but if His Majesty moves with the authoritarian power that's being discussed today I may have to change my assessment.

If you think it's just about hunting, you might examine your ability to grasp history.

25 California and New York go hand in hand.

Thank God I got my Mini before all this happened. I went into the gun store Friday and asked about getting another and he just laughed.

26 Us: SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED. Them/FSA: Shall. Not. Be. Concerned. After all, The Bachelor is on tonight... SiD Saw a good one on Facebook last night - "Our Founding Fathers would be shooting by now." Kinda says it all.

27 $ 50 - Pays for 2 hours of video production $ 100 - Pays for 4 hours of video production $ 250 - Pays for 10 hours of video production $ 500 - Covers the travel expenses of a citizen journalist. $ 700 - Equips an investigator with an undercover camera! ----- Where the hell is the going rate for time with Hannah?!?

28 Just picked up a Remington 1911R1 45ACP Stainless at a gun show. I think I know how the "republic" part of this fight is going and an M1A1 is also on my shopping list. Best part about the gun show was my truly amazing woman reminding me we needed ammo too..

29 One of our people was let go today at work and apparently her husband is making physical threats against the company. It's gonna be a great day.

Doesn't he know that's a stupid thing to do in Texas?

30 Do not force us to put down thy rebellion, thou pitiful serfs. Bend the knee.

31 Still can't accept Breitbart is dead.

32

While I love what O'Keefe does, it means nothing unless we can get it out to the average LIV.

 

33 One of our people was let go today at work and apparently her husband is making physical threats against the company. It's gonna be a great day. Posted by: DangerGirl at January 15, 2013 11:08 AM (GWlHG) Thoughts and prayers are with you.

34

19 -

 

I think it comes down to the simple matter of "rule of law." 

 

Do we govern ourselves by clearly defined laws,  and are they applied as equally to everyone as possible? 

 

If not, chaos reigns.  The right is still operating within a "rule of law" framework.  The left is not.  We'll either be subjugated, or there will be blood.  Lots of it.  It's not a question of if, it's only a question of when. 

35 Guns.  Zero Dark Thirty: The 18 minute clip of the Navy Seals inside the Bin Laden compound.  The most enjoyable 18 minutes in movie history? 

36

16 -

 

I think people backed off the topic immediately afterward out of respect for the family.  Which is fine, but this is not just a family matter.

37 One of our people was let go today at work and apparently her husband is making physical threats against the company. It's gonna be a great day. Doesn't he know that's a stupid thing to do in Texas? What's the over/under for just making it across the parking lot?

38 One of our people was let go today at work and apparently her husband is making physical threats against the company. It's gonna be a great day.
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 15, 2013 11:08 AM (GWlHG)

A guy like that works here (Federal Agency) in a high-ranking job (Chief something something). 

The other day, he got his bag smashed by the Deputy and came back to his office, smashed some picture frames, kicked over four chairs and knocked over a filing cabinet.  Nothing, of course, will be done.

He is absolutely a guy I can see bringing a weapon into the building.

39
17 BCochran, still won't save you from Polly. She is a clever girl.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 11:11 AM (QidfK)

Indeed she is. But mine isn't for the animals with four legs.

40 Guns. Zero Dark Thirty: The 18 minute clip of the Navy Seals inside the Bin Laden compound. The most enjoyable 18 minutes in movie history? Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 15, 2013 11:14 AM (wbmaj) I wasn't gonna see that movie for a few reasons and I have not seen a movie in a theater for 10 years or more, but I may have to break down and see that if it is driving the liberals so crazy

41

Still can't accept Breitbart is dead.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 15, 2013 11:13 AM (FsUAO)

 

I know how you feel.   All the more reason to mock, deride and humiliate the media and the establishment until they crumble like stale bread.   Breitbart is here.

42 O'Keefe must have finally got out from underneath the BS charges for entering the federal building in LA. He had been restricted to the State until that was cleared up. --- Pretty sure those had been cleared up for a while now. I think the remaining question was O'Keefe's lawsuit against the authorities that detained him for the deletion of his footage, as he claimed that it was proof that would exonerate him.

43 Is this post hard right?

44 Anyone who lives in NY State is crazy. Taxes are sky high and gas is also.

45 Zero Dark Thirty: The 18 minute clip of the Navy Seals inside the Bin Laden compound. The most enjoyable 18 minutes in movie history?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 15, 2013 11:14 AM (wbmaj)

It was pretty awesome.  I was actually impressed with the silencers operating the way they actually do instead of making that 'pfft' sound they always do in the movies.

"I shot the guy on the third deck."  Gave me chills. 

46
33 One of our people was let go today at work and apparently her husband is making physical threats against the company. It's gonna be a great day.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 15, 2013 11:08 AM (GWlHG)

------------------

Thoughts and prayers are with you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 15, 2013 11:13 AM (VtjlW)

Thoughts, prayers, a steady hand and extra ammo.

47 Rules? For the little people. Drew if you make it over to Allen G's non existant blog, my post is an explanation WRT you and my exchange on twitter. I am aout finally ready to shift my alliegence to the tea party or the "shut up and work" party if it ever shows back up. Good post.

48 I know how you feel. All the more reason to mock, deride and humiliate the media and the establishment until they crumble like stale bread. Breitbart is here.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea

*************

We need to take over at least half the media

Take back the school system

Take back the legal system.

49 What's the over/under for just making it across the parking lot?

Depends on the company and their own gun policy.

I've found the more local/home-grown they are, the more likely they are not to bother the police with such things until the cleanup is required.  The other option is to call the cops on the guy- and cops in Texas don't like those kinds of threats.

50 Where the hell is the going rate for time with Hannah?!?

Careful.  Her father owns a shit-ton of guns.  So does she.

51 The right is still operating within a "rule of law" framework. The left is not. We'll either be subjugated, or there will be blood. Lots of it. It's not a question of if, it's only a question of when. At that point, the right won't be operating under it either.

52 Great video but hypocrites are not self-aware. I woke up to the news of Cuomo and the NY Senate criminalizing law-abiding licensed gun owners. I am beginning to have some very vivid fantasies of rounding up all of these malignant parasites and launching them into North Korea where they can live their utopian dreams out, gun-free & all... I hate these f*ckers with every fiber of my being. Can't wait to get the hell out of this shithole.

53 Lets derail things just a bit.  Christie as Xenophon?
http://tinyurl.com/ao5mymv
Discuss.

54 I wasn't gonna see that movie for a few reasons and I have not seen a movie in a theater for 10 years or more, but I may have to break down and see that if it is driving the liberals so crazy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 11:16 AM (9Bj8R)

 

"It was supposed to be a movie about our   Blessed    Mocha Messiah's gutsy call!   But instead you made a movie that barely even MENTIONS our Saintly    Chocolate Jesus, and that makes it look like evilbadterrible WATERBOARDING was responsible for the intel that led to the compound!   You're    bad, bad people!   SHUN   THE INFIDEL!"

55 Can we get Gabe over here to tell us how this reasonable compromise by the centrist Republicans perfectly sets them up on the moral high ground to win the real battle coming up next?

And how if we'd followed the path of the far right Republicans and refused any compromise, well, not only would the centrist Republicans lose their seat to a Democrat but, the Democrats would pass the bill anyway?

So, we might as well compromise our principles a little bit here and there, or whenever the Dems need more votes, 'cause we're sure to win the next fight if we do.

56 #40  Do it.  I swear you won't regret it. 

57 44 Anyone who lives in NY State is crazy. Taxes are sky high and gas is also. --- This is what props up the populations of New Jersey and Connecticut. No one wants to live in upstate New York and a lot of people who work in or around NYC either can't or won't live there for various reasons.

58 Careful. Her father owns a shit-ton of guns. So does she.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 15, 2013 11:18 AM (ZKzrr)

As does her sister, who has a blog.....girlsjustwannahaveguns.com

59 Look on the bright side, this just dq Cuomo for the White House.

60 8 Danger Girl, Take a calm look around and study cover versus concealment. If you are a CCW take measur of sightlines. I'm sorry you are winning "interact with assholes" for the day and hop you're safe.

61 Danger Girl, wow be careful.  What is company policy to pack heat?

62 So NY state bans semi auto? The news reports that Drudge linked are so bare of detail that it's difficult to know what the new law does. Will NY Law Enforcement Officers give up their semi auto weapons? Will Federal agents assigned duties in NY State also be required to give up their semi auto weapons and high capacity detachable box magazines? Or are there special exemptions for special people?

63 Doesn't he know that's a stupid thing to do in Texas? What's the over/under for just making it across the parking lot? --- "And the winner is maintenance, and Rob the intern, with... 15 feet from the door before being shot down by a little old lady with a walker."

64 You folks fleeing NY need to look at battleground states and blue states trending red. NY, IL, and CA are FUBAR. Look at places like Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Michigan, Washington, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, etc.

65 Thanks everyone. Unfortunately the company has a no weapons on the premises policy. Now I don't know how many here follow that rule, I'm thinking there are at least five with something in their car. I already felt shitty enough today, this just adds to it.

66
I challenge someone to ask Cuomo why it was so important to pass this foolish legislation on the month anniversary of Sandy Hook, while the daily minority-heavy death toll of gun violence in major cities -- say, Chicago -- gets no such memorialization. Why does NY care so much about dead white children but not dead black children? And either way, why would NY state pass legislation that will further endanger people and lead to MORE gun violence -- like, say, CHICAGO did?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 15, 2013 11:11 AM (4df7R)

Inauguration is Monday. Cuomo needs to have a big signing ceremony this week so that it is on the network news. Then on Monday he gets the love from Bambi in his big speech.

It's for the history books, or 2016 since Scranton Joe is pushing hard left on guns, Cuomo can't get outlefted.

67 You stay safe, DangerGirl. 

68 No one wants to live in upstate New York and a lot of people who work in or around NYC either can't or won't live there for various reasons. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 11:19 AM (e0xKF) Actually parts of upstate NY are beautiful. Too bad it is part of NY State

69 Danger Girl, wow be careful. What is company policy to pack heat? Hopefully it's "Better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6".

70 "And the winner is maintenance, and Rob the intern, with... 15 feet from the door before being shot down by a little old lady with a walker."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 11:21 AM (e0xKF)

That's awesome. So what caliber are the walkers available in?

71 BCochran, you need to reacquaint yourself with how raptors move.  They travel predominantly on two legs.  All the better to hug you with the two shorter arms so one of the long sickle foot claws can gut you.

72 No one wants to live in upstate New York and a lot of people who work in or around NYC either can't or won't live there for various reasons.

I'd love to live in upstate NY if all the shit coming out of Albany wasn't so fucked up.  It's so beautiful.  It's a fucking crime that such beautiful land is ruled by NYC dipshits.

73 Unfortunately the company has a no weapons on the premises policy. Then go home sick. The job will still be there tomorrow.

74 70 "And the winner is maintenance, and Rob the intern, with... 15 feet from the door before being shot down by a little old lady with a walker." Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 11:21 AM (e0xKF) That's awesome. So what caliber are the walkers available in? --- .22 rimfire

75 Danger Girl, Take a calm look around and study cover versus concealment. Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 11:20 AM (e39Mo)

DangerGirl, allow me to translate from the infantry-ese.....

Concealment = Can't see me.
Cover = Cover, can't see me and can't hit me.

Example:

Concealment = large cardboard box or particle board desk.
Cover = Closet with a metal door or a large metal desk.

76 We need to take over at least half the media Take back the school system Take back the legal system. Don't fight the last war, build a new media - ignore the fossils, get the government out of schools all together, until we bring back duels it is a hopeless cause.

77

Can we get Gabe over here to tell us how this reasonable compromise by the centrist Republicans perfectly sets them up on the moral high ground to win the real battle coming up next?

 

You're just so darn cute when you completely miss my point and then set up little straw men in the comments of other posts. *pinches your cheek* 

78

Warm and fuzzy:

Miami Herald reporting two robbery suspects shot dead by armed citizens exercising their human right to defend their lives.  Via Drudge. 

79 You know, if Sandy Hook had been an evangelical Christian school, and the shooter a Moslem, this story would have been buried on day two and never mentioned again.

80 It's so beautiful. It's a fucking crime that such beautiful land is ruled by NYC dipshits. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 15, 2013 11:22 AM (ZKzrr) Yup. Upstate should form a new State and ship all the prisons down state.

81 65 Thanks everyone. Unfortunately the company has a no weapons on the premises policy. Now I don't know how many here follow that rule, I'm thinking there are at least five with something in their car. I already felt shitty enough today, this just adds to it.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 15, 2013 11:21 AM (zD2AH)

So have they done anything....like notify the authorities?  If not, I'd march in and tell them you'll be working from home until they take some action.

82 >>>That's awesome. So what caliber are the walkers available in?

.44 Cap & Ball. Look it up.

83 The duplicity of the statist left is amazing.

84 And the winner is maintenance, and Rob the intern, with... 15 feet from the door before being shot down by a little old lady with a walker." Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 11:21 AM (e0xKF) That's awesome. That was.

85

Miami Herald on the right of self-defense:

Two robbery suspects have been shot dead in two separate incidents in South Florida.
Late Monday night, a robbery at a Hollywood Exxon station led to the shooting of one of two suspects by a store clerk, according to police. A second suspect was caught a short time later.
Hollywood investigators remain on the scene of the attempted robbery and shooting on State Road 7 near the Hard Rock casino on Southwest 52nd Street.
In Northeast Miami-Dade, police are on the scene of an attempted robbery Tuesday morning in which a suspect was reportedly shot by a resident. The area of the shooting is Northeast 209th Terrace and Eighth Avenue.

86 If the threat level is you feel it will happen today. Then say you have a stomach bug and don't want to spread it.  Go home Danger Girl.  Then next day come to work wearing the bullet resistant blouse and a cute little .22cal in the fanny pack.

87 Apropos of nothing, gun canes are expressly forbidden in Alabama. I'm sure there's a story there.

88 38 Washington Nearsider, That has to suck, perhaps made all the worse depending on how connected the guy is.

89 Concealment = large cardboard box --- Be careful of the guys with a "!" over their heads.

90

Any chance we can get the republicans on the Meet the Press roundtable to bring a gun magazine onto the show each week and just play with it while talking?

Maybe two magazines the next week, then three, then five...just flaunt the 'law'

 

91 Cover against a 5.56 - a car door with window rolled down, Cover against a 7.62 - a reinforced concrete wall with sandbags

92 Miami Herald reporting two robbery suspects shot dead by armed citizens exercising their human right to defend their lives. Via Drudge.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 15, 2013 11:24 AM (wbmaj)

 

Quick question:   were either of the suspects similar in aspect to Saint Trayvon?   If so,   these citizens had better   pray they aren't white (or white-hispanic).

93 85 And the winner is maintenance, and Rob the intern, with... 15 feet from the door before being shot down by a little old lady with a walker." Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 11:21 AM (e0xKF) That's awesome. That was. --- Thank you. Watched "Cabin In The Woods" last night and got my inspiration from it.

94 Careful. Her father owns a shit-ton of guns. So does she. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 15, 2013 11:18 AM (ZKzrr) I know the risks Regarding the vid, yeah, not ground-breaking or surprising.

95 You're just so darncute when you completely miss my point and then setuplittle straw men in the comments of other posts. *pinches your cheek*

Posted by: Gabriel Malor

*********

Yeah, you were just spitting (again) on those loonies who refuse to compromise in the way you see fit.

96 91 Any chance we can get the republicans on the Meet the Press roundtable to bring a gun magazine onto the show each week and just play with it while talking? Maybe two magazines the next week, then three, then five...just flaunt the 'law' --- Just be sure that the Republican in question is "on the way to the Capitol for a vote" right after the show.

97 Concealment = large cardboard box or particle board desk. Cover = Closet with a metal door or a large metal desk. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 11:24 AM (sbV1u) Improvised Armored Vehicle = fat guy/girl on a rascal scooter. Feel free to return fire as you ride tubby to the nearest exit.

98 No one wants to live in upstate New York and a lot of people who work in or around NYC either can't or won't live there for various reasons.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 11:19 AM (e0xKF)

I used to live in upstate NY.  It used to be fairly conservative but it looks like it has gone to shit.

99 26 akula51 Saw a good one on Facebook last night - "Our Founding Fathers would be shooting by now." I've seen that for years. It's true, of course. They went to war over much less oppression and provocation than we have now.

100 Toby, how about sword canes?

101 OT, completely mind-blowing article by Spengler on Lew and the CitiBank meltdown. Pay particular attention to the part about the worthless "AAA' bonds that they bought to hype themselves... http://preview.tinyurl.com/cwlnc96

102
71 BCochran, you need to reacquaint yourself with how raptors move. They travel predominantly on two legs. All the better to hug you with the two shorter arms so one of the long sickle foot claws can gut you.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 11:22 AM (QidfK)

Oh, I'm well aware. Much like AtC, I'm a fan of the JP series. But I don't think of them as arms, they're still legs to me.

And you know, I just looked them up, turns out most raptors were only a couple feet tall. Makes them a little less scary. Why, they can't even reach door handles.

103 Do we govern ourselves by clearly defined laws, and are they applied as equally to everyone as possible? If not, chaos reigns. The right is still operating within a "rule of law" framework. The left is not. We'll either be subjugated, or there will be blood. Lots of it. It's not a question of if, it's only a question of when. Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2013 11:14 AM (TOk1P) Insty's been pounding on the coming middle class anarchy and, recently, bringing up Irish democracy. In both cases, the key element is that the middle class, defined as those who believe in following the law, decide to stop doing so because the law is perceived as arbitrary and ridiculous. It's not open rebellion, it's not loud, but it is there. Look at all the jokes we make about the guns disappearing in those tragic boating accidents. If NY tries to implement those insane gun restriction laws, then there are going to be many people who simply will not comply. Guns will be lost or disappear or hey how do you like my new garden? People will not comply. They won't consider themselves revolutionaries. They won't consider themselves to be standing up to tyranny. But they will not comply.

104 That's awesome. So what caliber are the walkers available in? .44 Cap Ball. Look it up. ISWYDT. Well played. Very well played.

105 @54 - Chocolate Jesus may be my new favorite insult for the JEF. Brilliant.

106 Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 11:24 AM (sbV1u) Lol thanks. My husband is ex-infantry so I understand those terms. My lab has two sets of locked doors so I'm in a fairly safe area of the plant...far from the section where the person was let go from. So while I'm a little scared. I think I'm in the best possible location. I don't know if the person who actually received the threat called the cops or not.

107 #93  Yes.  It was reported that one of the departed ascended towards the heavens on a puffy white cloud but his cloud quickly dissipated and he fell back to earth, dead in the parking lot.   

108 89 38 Washington Nearsider,

That has to suck, perhaps made all the worse depending on how connected the guy is.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 11:25 AM (e39Mo)

It's awful.  He's actually 'somebody' here.  He's intimidated whistle-blowers, getting some of them fired, and drawn multiple 'hostile work environment' claims.

Nothing will ever happen until it goes too far, then people will wonder what could have been done to prevent it as they sort through the bodies.

109 BCochran, step stools.  A raptor's best friend.

110 Its terrible when you work in commie China, and Live in the US and you can't tell the difference between the 2 so much anymore. Obama = Mao Cuomo = Pol Pot Biden = Hitler (well maybe Eva Braun, heh , heh). I miss my guns. I waS TALKING ABOUT THIS TO A 4 STAR GENERAL in Beijing and a 2 star general in Guangzhou. They said ..you can shoot at our Army bases..no worries! It is ashamed I have more 2nd amendment rights in Commie China than in NY. New Yorkers should bow their heads in shame! They would never try to pull that shit in Texas!

111 Cover against a 5.56 - a car door with window rolled down, Cover against a 7.62 - a reinforced concrete wall with sandbags Posted by: Jean at January 15, 2013 11:26 AM (sgNEe)

Yes, well I was thinking of things that would be immediately at hand in an office.

She probably wouldn't have time to build a HESCO barrier.

Although it would be FUCKING AWESOME!

112 New York sux? Well yeah, it does. Best part? Who else is a bigger magnet for terrorists? I mean those New Yorkers should make their rat trap of a city a terrorist free zone, or something......

113

I've been demonized by coastal progressives so much, I almost welcome the happy fun camps. It's my kids I fear for.

114 DangerGirl, allow me to translate from the infantry-ese.....

Concealment = Can't see me.
Cover = Cover, can't see me and can't hit me.

Example:

Concealment = large cardboard box or particle board desk.
Cover = Closet with a metal door or a large metal desk.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 11:24 AM (sbV1u)

Hell, they discussed that at length at the self defense work shop I went to.

115 They would never try to pull that shit in Texas! --- There's a reason for that GIF floating around of the "Texas concealed-carry map".

116 Sean if she has cardboard boxes full of documents.  Might be worthy of a HESCO.

117

San Antonio KENS 5 via Drudge: 

SAN ANTONIO -- A man is dead and another is recovering in the hospital after police say they were shot while trying to steal an SUV from outside a home in an affluent neighborhood.

The deceased was identified as a 32-year-old man. His name was not immediately available.

The other suspect, a 37-year-old man, underwent surgery at San Antonio Military Medical Center. He was listed in stable condition on Tuesday morning.

118

Nothing will ever happen until it goes too far, then people will wonder what could have been done to prevent it as they sort through the bodies.

 

'Gun-Free Zone' sign.  Duh.

119 So what caliber are the walkers available in?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 11:22 AM (da5Wo)

----

36 caliber.

120

Texas is alright, except for Austin and surround. They aspire to pull the same vacuum as any hoser in New York.

121
110 BCochran, step stools. A raptor's AtC's best friend.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 11:28 AM (QidfK)

That's better.

122 I've been demonized by coastal progressives so much, I almost welcome the happy fun camps. It's my kids I fear for.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at January 15, 2013 11:30 AM (71iUa)

 

Hey,    when    we get thrown into the happy   fun  camps, do we get to fling our urine and feces at the    progressive     guards like the animals in Gitmo do?   Cuz that would almost make it worth it.

123 It was reported that one of the departed ascended towards the heavens on a puffy white cloud but his cloud quickly dissipated and he fell back to earth, dead in the parking lot. I can see explaining it to the cops exactly that way, word for word.

124 Why was the wounded perp dragged to Brooke's?

125 Sean, I'm sure my M1A could penetrate my entire office building - front to back and still kill someone in a car in the parking garage. The only thing I can see that would slow it down are the filing cabinets full of paper and the safe.

126 92 Jean, Ideally sandbags and rebar but a stout desk is beter than a plant. Violence sucks, thugs paying hard prices doesn't. DangerGirl use your best judgement.

127

Drew wrote, "We either make the elites live by the rules they impose on the rest of us or we give up the game [the Republic] entirely."

 

No, Drew, you're offering a false dilemma, committing the either/or fallacy. When it comes to saving the Republic, there are options other than 'make the elites live by the rules they impose'. One way to make ruling elites stop doing what they're doing is to make them former ruling elites, one way or the other.

 

A Party of Lincoln, straight-ticket Republican voting, right-of-center conservative, I find considering options and making mental and real-world preparations I would never have considered even a few short years ago. Most of this has been gradual and incremental and nearly subconscious, a way of coping with the vague uneasiness I've been feeling, a sense of  uncertainty and looming disaster. And anger. Lots of anger.

128

110
BCochran, step stools. A raptor's    AtC's best friend.

 

 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 11:28 AM (QidfK)

 

 

That's better.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 11:32 AM (da5Wo)

 

 

Well now you've done it.  You'll never get to sleep inside in Alextopia NOW.

129 how about sword canes? Just rifle and shotgun canes. Although swords and daggers are forbidden in public schools. Section 13A-11-54 Carrying rifle or shotgun walking cane. Any person who carries a rifle or shotgun walking cane shall, on conviction, be fined not less than $500.00 nor more than $1,000.00, and be imprisoned in the penitentiary not less than two years. (Code 1876, §4111; Code 1886, §3777; Code 1896, §4422; Code 1907, §6423; Code 1923, §3489; Code 1940, T. 14, §165; Code 1975, §13-6-124.)

130 SAN ANTONIO -- A man is dead and another is recovering in the hospital after police say they were shot while trying to steal an SUV from outside a home in an affluent neighborhood.The deceased was identified as a 32-year-old man. His name was not immediately available. I believe his name is I. B. Stiff.

131 28 Just picked up a Remington 1911R1 45ACP

I have one of those, like it a lot, except for the big chunky white dot sites (which are replaceable). The irony is it's made in Ilion, NY, Remington's only remaining blue state factory.

132 That's better. Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 11:32 AM (da5Wo)

Hey Cochran, you got a little brown stuff on your nose there. 

133

I'm ashamed to say I was born in NY. 

 

I want a goddamn divorce from these people.

 

 

134 MWR, the sad thing is.  I set that trap deliberately and he still walked into it.

135 grrrr.

you know what i hate. reading all the comment s and asking a question on the last post?

taps nails, 
why am i always the last to know i am alone!

nevermind.

136 That's better. Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 11:32 AM (da5Wo) I see you are bored and taunting Happy Fun Raptors again.

137 Well now you've done it. You'll never get to sleep inside in Alextopia NOW.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 15, 2013 11:34 AM (4df7R)

Au contrair. I bring cheerleaders with me.

138 102 Cricket, What you call "buying worthless bonds to hype yourself" we call Tuesday.... //Your Friends at the Fed

139 Air gun canes: http://borispalatnik.com/CaneGun_BCG.htm

140 DangerGirl, allow me to translate from the infantry-ese.....

Concealment = Can't see me.
Cover = Cover, can't see me and can't hit me.

Example:

Concealment = large cardboard box or particle board desk.
Cover = Closet with a metal door or a large metal desk.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 11:24 AM (sbV1u)


I am concealment.

141 The irony is it's made in Ilion, NY, Remington's only remaining blue state factory. Posted by: Rule #2 at January 15, 2013 11:35 AM (CypDC) Not for long... lol

142 BCochran, step stools. A raptor's AtC's best friend. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 11:28 AM (QidfK) That's better. Posted by: BCochran1981 Methinks you may be discussing that with the raptors soon.

143 57 44 Anyone who lives in NY State is crazy. Taxes are sky high and gas is also. --- This is what props up the populations of New Jersey and Connecticut. No one wants to live in upstate New York and a lot of people who work in or around NYC either can't or won't live there for various reasons. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 11:19 AM (e0xKF) For better or worse I am stuck in NYC at least for next few years. Gun application is in the works but now magazine capacity will be lowered to 7 from an already idiotically small 10. If I get denied, which can happen because of the hoops they make you jump through, I will just get a gun anyway and store it in case of an emergency contingency, so to speak. Fuck this tyrannical government.

144 @118 Bad boys, Bad Boys what you gonna do? I will shoot your getaway car and shoot you too! Its not a right, it's a duty!

145 Au contrair. I bring cheerleaders with me. Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 11:36 AM (da5Wo) Yeah. I'm relatively certain that the cheerleaders will be the ones sleeping inside. You, not so much.

146 Heh, just read this over at Twitchy. O'Keefe is a National Treasure. But we need more Hannah Giles. Can I haz more Hannah?

147 Regarding cover/concealment and general protection. Last year I made the decision to trust my life on the street to Second Chance body armor. I got the level IIa because it stops the most rounds. plus I got the Trauma Plate for the front. What scares me is that, although I can fit an extra trauma plate in the front, I cannot fit a second one in back. As of late I have taken to duct-taping a second trauma plate to the area of my back where the heart and vital organs are located. Then I put my vest on. Here is the questions. The ducttape solution, although tactically sound, is hot and painful to remove. I would like to go to the single-plate solution in back. What I am worried about is repeated hits to that area with .308 ammunition. I have a high-risk security job and I fear that I would be the target for repeated long-distance shots to my back. Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop, say, .338 Lapua or something like that? Is there a better way to do the second plate? BTW, I am, of course, usually carrying a pair of ceramic plates in my briefcase so that I can shield my head.

148 Saw a good one on Facebook last night - "Our Founding Fathers would be shooting by now."

I've seen that for years. It's true, of course. They went to war over much less oppression and provocation than we have now.
===============
They did, but it took almost 15 years of talking, agitating and anger-building before shots were fired. They suffered under the laws they found so oppressive for a long time.

There was a lot of "Let's try another petition" and "the British Army is the best in the world, how could we fight them?" that, like today, caused sane men to pause, delay and reflect.

There is a critical mass coming.

I see more over-aggressive enforcement action to "make an example" (the type of which they are already engaged in, reading about that guy who committed suicide) as this "middle-class revolt" is already in full swing and they know it.

Tax season is coming. And there are going to be a lot of middle class people who have been given more than enough reason to cheat on their taxes . . . and there are hundreds and thousands like that EPA administrator burrowed into our government.

149 142 Ilion is the original Remington Arms plant; I assume it holds some sentimental value. If Remmy does pull out, I hope they offer the skilled employees a Red-state transfer.

150 I find it necessary to remind everyone that Toure's last name is Neblett.   I advocate we   indulge his    masturbatory     desire to go by one name    by referring to him    solely     as    Neblett.

151 Yeah. I'm relatively certain that the cheerleaders will be the ones sleeping inside. You, not so much.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 15, 2013 11:38 AM (VtjlW)

BCochran will learn how to go drag.

152 MWR,

Neblett or shorten it to Nebby or maybe Nubby?

153 The ducttape solution, although tactically sound, is hot and painful to remove. Imagine doing that to your private bits every few weeks or so.

154 What I am worried about is repeated hits to that area with .308 ammunition. I have a high-risk security job and I fear that I would be the target for repeated long-distance shots to my back.


How is Mogadishu Detroit this time of year?

155 We've passed the exit from the highway about whether or not this is still a fiscally conservative country (we're not) but we're at a crossroad about whether or not to still be a republic or not.

(i refuse to hold my breath more than a minute or two!)


We either make the elites live by the rules they impose on the rest of us or we give up the game entirely.

(Same , I refuse to hold my breath , after i've turned blue,  and srsly we mustn't make hills to die on, because we look incorrigible, hard core, and won't play well with others)

I mean who wants to be labeled a miscreant in political circles.

156 "People will not comply. They won't consider themselves revolutionaries. They won't consider themselves to be standing up to tyranny. But they will not comply. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 15, 2013 11:27 AM (VtjlW)" As I game this out, I wonder what the purpose of non-compliance is if the tyranny is still effected. If they come for the guns (so to speak) and you simply don't comply instead of actively resist, what's the point? Conversely, if one is of the mind to actively resist, and a team of federal agents knocks on the door, how many average Americans will actually shoot?

157 Funny, in Zero Dark Thirty, I didn't see any of those Harvard elite types forcing their way in to the Bin Laden compound in the dead of night.  They were all hiding in the "War Room" or behind a desk in Washington while real men were called upon to and did the job.  You know, the same kind of brave men the leftist/statist media likes to describe as rednecks, bumpkins, white trash.  Our national military cemeteries are filled with them.  True heroes all.  god bless our tropps and God bless our Navy Seals.  

158 For better or worse I am stuck in NYC at least for next few years. Gun application is in the works but now magazine capacity will be lowered to 7 from an already idiotically small 10. If I get denied, which can happen because of the hoops they make you jump through, I will just get a gun anyway and store it in case of an emergency contingency, so to speak. Fuck this tyrannical government. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 11:37 AM (XkWWK) Yeah I know some people, like you, are stuck in NYC. Sorry. And if I had to do it all over again I'd move way out of the North East. Live and learn

159 RWC is the mall ninja?

160 Hannity made a pretty good point yesterday about that woman that protected her kids in the attic. She shot all six of her bullets and hit the guy 5 times including the neck and face and he lived. Now suppose there were 2 guys. She is out of bullets before even killing the first guy. She is dead because Cuomo decides she cant have more bullets.

161 toss's  the old tea  dregs into the sink,
hands a fresh cup of tea to alex.

162 119 Nothing will ever happen until it goes too far, then people will wonder what could have been done to prevent it as they sort through the bodies.

'Gun-Free Zone' sign. Duh.

Posted by: Peers...No Organ at January 15, 2013 11:32 AM (BrQrN)

I just hope I'm not one of the bodies. 

163 Man, I belong in a red state. "I hate New York"...

164 Anyone who lives in NY State is crazy. Taxes are sky high and gas is also. I have a red-state heart and a red-state mind and a blue state address here in New Yorkistan. I am lucky enough to live very, very close to an Indian Reservation (you don't dare call them "Native Americans" around here. They hate that. A Seneca elder once told me it's because "Indian" has connotations of "warriors" and bravery that the Indians prefer to the wishy-washy NA appellation forced on them by Whitey.) I buy all my gas tax-free on the reservation, and I buy only Indian smokes, which are also tax-free. And now I am buying a whole lot more there, all tax-free. You can buy all sorts of stuff tax-free at the rez and I plan to take every advantage of it that I can to make up for my increased taxes. Just my little bit of going Galt.

165 @116, I seen that Texas concealed map a red dot for everyone. The whole state was solid red! Gotta love it!

166 There is a critical mass coming. Posted by: RoyalOil at January 15, 2013 11:39 AM (imtbm) Well, we can dream, can't we? I just think the demonically gifted politician otherwise known as TFG and his progressive lapdogs in the media are going to continue to manipulate the zeitgeist and keep the masses quiescent. Real change probably won't come until it is too late.

167 Neblett or shorten it to Nebby or maybe Nubby?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 11:41 AM (QidfK)

 

Ooooh.   How about Nebbish?   It's    not only similar in spelling and pronunciation, but it's SO TRUE.

 

"neb·bish 

/ˈnebiSH/Noun

A person, esp. a man, who is pitifully ineffectual, timid, or submissive. "
 

168 Breaking news! Chris Christie now an American hero!!! Can the hero bring the GOP back to moderation?

169 Conversely, if one is of the mind to actively resist, and a team of federal agents knocks on the door, how many average Americans will actually shoot? At this stage, relying on the average Americans may be a fatal error.

170 We still hate Bush and blame him for all these problems in NYC and Chicago regarding guns. In Vermont we don't have these problems because Presdent Obama's policies have worked here and people can gets along. Guns kill things like people, animals, rocks etc. and should be done away with and only the government should have them to protect us good people. We loves Presdent Obama and what he has done for this county to make the world love us more. Yeah for Presdemt Obama............

171 Conversely, if one is of the mind to actively resist, and a team of federal agents knocks on the door, how many average Americans will actually shoot?

The actual beginning of the Revolution was not the Boston Tea Party or Stamp Act stuff.  It was a detachment of British soldiers marching on Concord, MA to disarm the populace there.  They came for their guns.  Shots were fired.  Game on.

172 Posted by: RWC at January 15, 2013 11:38 AM (fWAjv) --- Stay out of East St. Louis and you can lose the trauma plates.

173 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 11:16 AM (9Bj8R)

Have you seen Act of Valor?

That is a good movie, with great battle scenes.

174 RWC, the preferred method to protect yourself from .338 Lupua is a 30min preparatory barrage followed by IR scattering smoke, then dig.

175 Yeah. I'm relatively certain that the cheerleaders will be the ones sleeping inside. You, not so much.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 15, 2013 11:38 AM (VtjlW)

Good thing the cheerleaders love me. That makes us a package deal.

Oh, did I mention that the cheerleaders are pretty decent with firearms?

Wife's best friend/kids' godmother: http://tinyurl.com/aa4nace

176 Imagine doing that to your private bits every few weeks or so. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 15, 2013 11:41 AM (VtjlW)

AtC goes Brazilian?

I'll be in my bunk.

177 She is dead because Cuomo decides she cant have more bullets.

But NY's proggs feel warm and fuzzy about "making a difference."  Where are your priorities?!

178 Imagine doing that to your private bits every few weeks or so. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 15, 2013 11:41 AM (VtjlW) Go on... I KID!!! I KID!!!

179

Ilion is the original Remington Arms plant; I assume it holds some sentimental value. If Remmy does pull out, I hope they offer the skilled employees a Red-state transfer.

 

They  would be very welcome in the Central FL area. We could use the industry,  and their presence would be a big  turn-off  to  Leftards looking to relocate.

 

Win-win!

180 Funny, in Zero Dark Thirty, I didn't see any of those Harvard elite types forcing their way in to the Bin Laden compound in the dead of night. They were all hiding in the "War Room" or behind a desk in Washington while real men were called upon to and did the job. You know, the same kind of brave men the leftist/statist media likes to describe as rednecks, bumpkins, white trash. Our national military cemeteries are filled with them. True heroes all. God bless our troops and God bless our Navy Seals.  (edited version) 

181 Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 15, 2013 11:43 AM (7ObY1) quick question? Gas on the reservation is cheaper than on the outside, but still pretty expensive compared to NJ isn't it? I mean gas at West Point is cheaper than out in town because it is Military, but still more expensive than NJ by far.

182

157 -

 

That's an excellent question.  Another good question is, if the "authorities" start going after individual citizens, probably not using the military, but ATF types first, how many local law enforcement agencies will side with the citizens over the federals?

 

183

The ducttape solution, although tactically sound, is hot and painful to remove.

Posted by: RWC at January 15, 2013 11:38 AM (fWAjv)

 

I'm sure it duct tape is hot and painful to remove. I'll tell you what I told my children when they would say, 'Dad, it hurts when I do 'x," where 'x' is something painful or awkward or unnecessary or all three all at once.

 

Please don't do that. Have you considered attaching those additional trauma plates to the vest rather than to your body, or maybe upgrading to a ballistics vest that has all the protection and features you want? Jury-rigging a body armor setup sounds like an all-around bad idea. Save your money and get better level protection.

184 Governor Andrew M. Cuomo announced legislation, (NY SAFE ACT), to give New York State the most comprehensive gun laws in the nation

185 148 RWC, While Mall Ninja is an epithet I enjoy slinging if there's a legit threat situational awaeness is key. Oh and the answer is 338 lapua

186 159 Yeah I know some people, like you, are stuck in NYC. Sorry. And if I had to do it all over again I'd move way out of the North East. Live and learn Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 11:43 AM (9Bj8R) Were it not for the wife, I would be making a bee line for Texas or South Carolina. Unfortunately, it would have to be near enough to someplace where I can find work in the advert trade. I do my film writing on my own or with my writing partner in Costa Rica.

187 160 RWC is the mall ninja? Posted by: Jean at January 15, 2013 11:43 AM (Ezq3m) I could only wish to be that good. But yeah, that is where that rant came from. Still LMAO when I read it.

188 Anyone ever notice that LIV, Lib and LiB all sound alike?

189 Here is the questions. The ducttape solution, although tactically sound, is hot and painful to remove. I would like to go to the single-plate solution in back. What I am worried about is repeated hits to that area with .308 ammunition. I have a high-risk security job and I fear that I would be the target for repeated long-distance shots to my back. Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop, say, .338 Lapua or something like that? Is there a better way to do the second plate? BTW, I am, of course, usually carrying a pair of ceramic plates in my briefcase so that I can shield my head. Botach Tactical at botach dot com just had a IIa one inch thick soft plate on sale for $89.00. Any way to attach the back plate to the vest via velcro? I have found places online that sell both sides of velcro in sheet size. 24" or 36" wide.

190 Here is an easier solution to affixing that trauma plate.

I bet there is a nylon or similar material shell that goes over the actual vest.  If there is, figure out how to remove that shell.

Turn the shell inside out and open it so you can see the back portion.  Then fold the front of the shell over so it aligns.  Mark where the front trauma plate is on the back portion of the shell.

Measure out enough material to cover the trauma plate with perhaps 1/4in extra on three sides.  Cut out the material.

Double sew that material on the three sides that are long.  Keep open side pointing to collar.  This forms a pouch. 

Once you put the vest back together.  Slide the back trauma plate into that pouch.  And voila.  No more duct tape.

If this doesn't work, be creative.

191 to give New York State the most comprehensive gun laws in the nation Posted by: ette at January 15, 2013 11:47 AM (nqBYe) Oh he's gonna give it to em alright.

192

If I get denied, which can happen because of the hoops they make you jump through, I will just get a gun anyway and store it in case of an emergency contingency, so to speak.

 

Don't forget to pick up a high-capacity assault shovel.

193 RWC, I swear I've seen your 11:38 post on some gun board. Do you work at a mall by any chance?

194 "Conversely, if one is of the mind to actively resist, and a team of federal agents knocks on the door, how many average Americans will actually shoot?" If they reach the door you're doing it wrong, it is no longer time to shoot. That's what claymores are for ...

195
politico.

But on today's radio show, Dicker described the package as being "all in secret, typical Albany, behind closed doors," and accused Cuomo of using the tragedy to push his gun agenda, perhaps in order to win national attention.

"This is a Trojan Horse. This is not about semi-automatic rifles. This is a sweeping set of gun laws the governor is using," he said. "The governor is using the tragedy... as a justification for sweeping changes in gun laws including regulating every single gun millions of New Yorkers now own... It's another reason people are going to be leaving New York.

196 Were it not for the wife, I would be making a bee line for Texas or South Carolina. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 11:47 AM (XkWWK)

Austin is the New York (or Cambridge or Berkeley) of Texas.  She'll find like minded souls at UT-Austin.

She'll do fine there.  

Just slip her some roofies for the flight.

197 "they came for their guns. Shots were fired. Game on. Posted by: EC at January 15, 2013 11:45 AM (GQ8sn)" That was then, this is now. Hell, I'm retired Marine, vehemently pro-2A, and love my firearms. I've frequently used the "cold, dead, fingers line" and still believe it. But when I really try to put myself in the situation, I'm not entirely sure I could pull the trigger. And I consider myself the average gun owner.

198 134 I'm ashamed to say I was born in NY. I want a goddamn divorce from these people. Posted by: Jaws at January 15, 2013 11:35 AM (4I3Uo) I was born in good ol' Brooklyn USA and grew up in the 60's and 70's. I had a great childhood, despite the grime, crime and corruption and I thought Rudy was a damned good mayor, considering the shit he had to work with. But I am so ready to get the hell out of here.

199 Conversely, if one is of the mind to actively resist, and a team of federal agents knocks on the door, how many average Americans will actually shoot? One way or another, we WILL get some shots fired...

200 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 15, 2013 11:41 AM (VtjlW)

That's what lasers are for silly.

201 If this doesn't work, be creative. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 11:48 AM (QidfK)

You think like a parachute rigger.

I like it.

202 126 Sean, I'm sure my M1A could penetrate my entire office building - front to back and still kill someone in a car in the parking garage. The only thing I can see that would slow it down are the filing cabinets full of paper and the safe. Posted by: Jean at January 15, 2013 11:33 AM (Ezq3m) --- Unless he's Sean Bean he's not dying in this movie.

203 While Mall Ninja is an epithet I enjoy slinging if there's a legit threat situational awaeness is key. Oh and the answer is 338 lapua Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 11:47 AM (e39Mo) Heck yeah on the SA. A lot of problems could be solved by not putting yourself in the situation/environment in the first place. There's some truth in 'nothing ever good happens after midnight.' (remember I said 'some' truth.)

204

Best part about the gun show was my truly amazing woman reminding me we needed ammo too..

---

She deserves oral. Girl earned it

205 197 Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 11:49 AM (sbV1u) She'll never go, Austin or no Austin. She HATES Texas (note the vaunted liberal reputation for tolerance and open-mindedness on full display). We are actually taking a trip to Savannah and then a drive up to South Carolina, so there is hope to move to a red state after all.

206 Sean, I have had friends in parachute shops.    So I come by it via osmosis.

207 Just a little boasting.... That story over at the Blaze about the Ohio town that is going to arm custodians in school.... I was born in that town!

208 Last year I made the decision to trust my life on the street to Second Chance body armor. I got the level IIa because it stops the most rounds. plus I got the Trauma Plate for the front. Also, how low profile do you have to be? Look up "plate carrier" on Botach or US Cav.

209 We are actually taking a trip to Savannah and then a drive up to South Carolina, so there is hope to move to a red state after all. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 11:52 AM (XkWWK) beaufort SC is a beautiful little town

210 Conversely, if one is of the mind to actively resist, and a team of federal agents knocks on the door, how many average Americans will actually shoot?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 15, 2013 11:42 AM (ROv35)

 

More than you think. All it takes is a triggering event, a John Brown's Raid or Archduke Ferdinand assassination kind of thing. After that, events take on a certain seemingly inexorable momentum.

 

I don't think major media outlets and lobbyists and pundits and national-level elected officials have a clear grasp of the mood of the country. They're too insulated and removed. If they did, their spit would dry up.  

211 RWC, what is it that you do that makes you fear high powered rounds being flung into your back all the time?

212 Heck yeah on the SA. A lot of problems could be solved by not putting yourself in the situation/environment in the first place. There's some truth in 'nothing ever good happens after midnight.' (remember I said 'some' truth.)

Posted by: RWC at January 15, 2013 11:51 AM (fWAjv)

 

Wait, so you're saying that    women who wear    skimpy clothes and walk home      after midnight    through    city streets    after a long night of drinking     are   putting themselves in a    dangerous     situation         that could be avoided by applying a little bit of common sense?       What are you, some kind of    MISOGYNIST!?

213

We are actually taking a trip to Savannah and then a drive up to South Carolina, so there is hope to move to a red state after all.

 

Come on down to FL   first, then make your way back up the coast.

214 "beaufort SC is a beautiful little town Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 11:53 AM (9Bj8R)" Not as beautiful as it was when I left around '04. I went back last year and its starting to look a little ragged. Of course, everywhere looks a little more ragged these days.

215 I don't think major media outlets and lobbyists and pundits and national-level elected officials have a clear grasp of the mood of the country. Or we don't. I'm still gobsmacked by Barry's reelection.

216 ""And Glenn Beck keeps railing on and on about passive resistance in the face of the inevitable draconian gun laws. A la MLK and Ghandi.""



Yeah fuck them, hanging around in your home spun and a shaved head is NOT how concord bridge went down.

217 beaufort SC is a beautiful little town Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 11:53 AM (9Bj8R) So I have heard. We are going to be potentially scouting places along the coast since she must be by the water.

218 To all in NYC and NY itself. FLY YOU FOOLS!

219 Their is nothing quite like the stench of the hypocrite. 

220

198 -

 

I think 1861 is a better analogy than 1770.  If you pick your side, you're no longer firing on your "fellow Americans."  Those on the other side are on the other side. 

 

Without an organized force of some combination of local law enforcement, national guard units, and military units that have commanders who bring their troops to "our" side, we don't stand a chance, but when blood starts spilling, you'll be able to pull the trigger.  We all will. 

221 Sean, I have had friends in parachute shops. So I come by it via osmosis. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 11:52 AM (QidfK)

I am very fond of riggers.  My company command was an aerial delivery company.  Started as Armor/Cav but had a back injury that compressed the discs so much I couldn't be doing 55mph cross-country in 70 tons of steel and Chobham anymore.  So the Army's perfectly logical solution, was to have me jump out of planes 3 times per month.

The former military in here will recognize that exact "thought" process.

222 Hell, I'm retired Marine, vehemently pro-2A, and love my firearms. I've frequently used the "cold, dead, fingers line" and still believe it. But when I really try to put myself in the situation, I'm not entirely sure I could pull the trigger. And I consider myself the average gun owner.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 15, 2013 11:50 AM (ROv35)

I predict there will be an incident that will spark partioning/balkanization of the CONUS into "go/no-go" zones like some blue state shithole cities are now.  I don't see state lines as the eventual borders of these zones, but the rural/urban boundaries instead.

223 212 EC, Why RWC works on a show calld Hardballed on a subsidiary of a major network..... Tingly even.... Heh RWC plenty good can happen after midnight anywhere it's all about risk to rward ratio. I needed the laugh that is a classic.

224

Revolutionaries don't have to shoot to fight. A lot of revolutionaries will pull electrical boxes off fed buildings, chop down power lines, block roads. Civil disobedience is good too.

 

Unfortunately, progressives have always preferred liquidating troublesome populations.

 

My best hope is state nullification and peaceful seccession.

225 217 ""And Glenn Beck keeps railing on and on about passive resistance in the face of the inevitable draconian gun laws. A la MLK and Ghandi."" Yeah fuck them, hanging around in your home spun and a shaved head is NOT how concord bridge went down. Posted by: Berserker at January 15, 2013 11:55 AM (FMbng) Consider the Warsaw Ghetto uprising of 1943. A handful of half-starved and desperate Jews, mostly kids and teenagers, armed only with Molotov cocktails and a handful of revolvers were able to hold off the military police and then a regiment of Waffen SS for several weeks until the latter came in and razed what was left of the buildings with flame throwers, bombs and gas. Imagine if the Jews of Europe had the weapons and the will to use them as early as 1934?

226 We are actually taking a trip to Savannah and then a drive up to South Carolina, so there is hope to move to a red state after all. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 11:52 AM (XkWWK) South Carolina sounds gorgeous. Always wanted to see it.

227 Posted by: EC at January 15, 2013 11:57 AM (GQ8sn) I see it going down the same. We're gonna need a bigger trebuchet.

228 >  We are actually taking a trip to Savannah and then a drive up to South Carolina, so there is hope to move to a red state after all.

Pretty sure the folks who live there would rather you kept your leftie spouse where she is.

229 103 And you know, I just looked them up, turns out most raptors were only a couple feet tall. Makes them a little less scary. Why, they can't even reach door handles.   -----------   Pay no attention to the Utahraptor behind the door.
 

230 "Or we don't. I'm still gobsmacked by Barry's reelection. Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 15, 2013 11:55 AM (evdj2)" That's why I'm not too confident about resistance to any gun grabbing. I used to think so. After the last election, all bets are off. The country has philosophically regressed for decades. This ain't 1776.

231

/Golf Clap...

 

Well Played....

 

 

232 US military.  Real good at breaking things.  Logical thought, not so much.

But geez.  About as unusual as my father in his Army enlistment.  Went from 10th to 82d.  Well not exactly.  Both units tend to have espirit out the wazoo.  Just one willingly jumps out of good airplanes.

233 quick question? Gas on the reservation is cheaper than on the outside, but still pretty expensive compared to NJ isn't it? I mean gas at West Point is cheaper than out in town because it is Military, but still more expensive than NJ by far. I don't know what gas goes for in NJ. I can tell you it's considerably cheaper on the reservations that on the outside. But again, I'm very lucky to live a stones throw from a rez. Most NYers aren't so fortunate.

234 In the letter to Boxer, Hagel apologized for disparaging remarks he made in 2006, saying a "Jewish lobby" in Washington tends to "intimidate" lawmakers. He deemed it as "a very poor choice of words" and said he understands how such words "can be constructed as anti-Israel." Hagel calls US senators to clarify views on Iran Hagel nomination conveys chilling message Hagel clarified that he is "overwhelmingly supportive of a strong US-Israel strategic and security relationship," and promised to work to expand the ties between the two countries. "I have always been supportive of a strong US-Israel strategic relationship and always supported Israel's right to defend itself against attack," he stressed. Critics of the Nebraska Republican took to Sunday television news programs to drive home concerns that Hagel opposes sanctions and is satisfied with containing Iran, as opposed to preventing it from obtaining a nuclear weapon. But Hagel, who repeatedly voted in the Senate against US sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program, wrote in the letter that he supports unilateral sanctions against Iran. yeah right. last minute conversion?

235

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 11:58 AM (XkWWK)

 

The key for me???  Any reading of history shows that Government Rise, AND FALL...

 

And ONLY an ARMED populace has a say in what comes after...

236 The country has philosophically regressed for decades. This ain't 1776.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 15, 2013 11:59 AM (ROv35)

 

For a lot of the country, I think the regression has    taken them back to 476   instead of 1776.    They're serfs and vassals and happy to stay that way.   Fools all.

237 @ 120, there is one evil walker witch who claims she has a 50 cal walker! I say howdy ma'am and get away from her as quick as I can!

238 So I have heard. We are going to be potentially scouting places along the coast since she must be by the water.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 11:55 AM (XkWWK)

Thanks to the BS Federal Flood Insurance law almost all of the nice little coastal towns are now over developed tourist traps.

Probably one of the best areas for someone coming down from an urban environment are the little pocket towns around Charleston.  Summerville is  a good town near there but not in the actual urban crap. If you want closer Mt Pleasant isn't too bad.

239 This ain't 1776.

Feels like 1933.

240 Roll Call Report: House GOP leaders consider four-year debt limit deal whole...eeeee.... shit

241 Stone's Throw is my other Native name.

242 J.J. Sefton, well in 1934 they only thought that upstart corporal did not really mean what he was saying.  And too many kept deluding themselves even in the camps.  And those who do not study history will find themselves back in the camps uttering, "I never thought this could happen [to me]."

243

130 Any person who carries a rifle or shotgun walking cane shall, on conviction, be fined not less ...

 

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So... musket canes are OK, then?

 

244 Stone's Throw is my other Native name.

Posted by: liz warren at January 15, 2013 12:03 PM (ORGYc)

I thought it was Leather Snatch?

245 Imagine if the Jews of Europe had the weapons and the will to use them as early as 1934? Brrr... Chilling. That's why we need some executive orders.

246 Based on many involuntary viewings of CNN programs over the last couple of weeks (at the gym), it seems CNN is now the anti-gun, all the time, network. It's been nothing but a constant barrage of anti-gun messaging, seemingly directed at both the hipster and chronically righteously indignant sects.

247 Speaking of John Brown's raid, I just happened to order "Midnight Rising: John Brown and the Raid That Sparked the Civil War" by one of my favorite authors, Tony Horwitz. Horwitz's unique travelogue/history lessons are right up my alley. Fantastic writer. His book "Blue Horizons," in which he follows in the footsteps of Capt. Cook, is one of my all-time faves. And he stays politics-neutral in every book, too.

248

Hell, I'm retired Marine, vehemently pro-2A, and
love my firearms. I've frequently used the "cold, dead, fingers line"
and still believe it. But when I really try to put myself in the
situation, I'm not entirely sure I could pull the trigger. And I
consider myself the average gun owner.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 15, 2013 11:50 AM (ROv35)

State Governments will help decide. If there is some critical mass of governors/local governments resisting, the populace will follow. Preference Cascade.

 

I remember what Lee said, As goes Virgina, so do I.

Lee was Lincoln's first choice

249 I'm curious as to what Biteme will recommend. If he says ban "assault weapons" by EO, and obama does it, they have just screwed up big time.

250 241 Roll Call Report: House GOP leaders consider four-year debt limit deal whole...eeeee.... shit --- That tribe which sold Manhattan for a string of beads had better negotiators than Boehner.

251 Ah yes John Brown.  Shot down like a dog for his raid.  Then in the middle of the Civil War he was exhumed and used to rally the North.

252 @246 perfectly timed and razor sharp my friend.

253 Report: House GOP leaders consider four-year debt limit deal Yes, that sounds about right. We're on our own out here.

254 If the words of the Constitution don't mean what they say, then the federal government itself has no legal standing, because its only reason for being is precisely and exactly, the Constitution.

This is where the "liberals" have been headed for a long time.

We all know that "liberals" have absolutely no concept of  "unintended consequences."

If you continually interpret the Constitution to mean exactly the opposite of what the plain text says, that same interpretation would lead you inexorably to the conclusion that the federal government (created by that Constitution, remember) has no authority to do anything to anyone, anywhere.

Do they really, REALLY want to go there?

255 240 Ms Radish, I'd say the vintage is St Petersburgh 1917.

256 yeah right. last minute conversion?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 12:01 PM (9Bj8R)

He sounds as like minded and as treacherous as The  boss.

257 212 RWC, what is it that you do that makes you fear high powered rounds being flung into your back all the time? Posted by: EC at January 15, 2013 11:54 AM (GQ8sn) EC, I took it off of the epic Gecko45 rant. If you don't know of it, take a gander...and laugh your ass off. http://tinyurl.com/228925 "We were previuosly restricted to .38Â’s and two Mossberg 500Â’s with less leathel rounds in them, but when our team saved the life and possibly the virginity of the MayorÂ’s nephew, there was a special relaxation of the rules made for us, due to the factt that the nepheew(who will remain nameless to rpevent a scandal) was saved by us using weapons better than our issue setup, so now we have good funding for gear for our jobs, and we needed to find relaible SMGÂ’s, but the HKÂ’s just wouldnÂ’t cut it."

258 I don't know how S. E. Cupp keeps from bitch-slapping everyone at that table, Toure especially.

259 I'd say the vintage is St Petersburgh 1917. --- I killed the Czar and his ministers. Anastasia screamed in vain.

260 Do they really, REALLY want to go there?

Posted by: filbert at January 15, 2013 12:07 PM (NaNKB)

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Well..... duh.....

Yeah, cuz we'll be in charge!!!

261
Related: New York state sucks




The nominally Republican controlled state Senate approved the gun control bill 43-18.

So to be more specific, New York Republicans suck.

262 I don't know what gas goes for in NJ. I can tell you it's considerably cheaper on the reservations that on the outside. But again, I'm very lucky to live a stones throw from a rez. Most NYers aren't so fortunate. Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 15, 2013 12:01 PM


Gas in NJ was $3.18 at a station I went by yesterday, and that was an average station.

263 That's why I'm not too confident about resistance to any gun grabbing. I used to think so. After the last election, all bets are off.


The country has philosophically regressed for decades. This ain't 1776.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 15, 2013 11:59 AM (ROv35)

 

True, but its a numbers game. Number of estimated gun owners in US - 55 million households

Number of police and military - Around 2 million.

if even 10% of owners resist thats 5.5 million. That also assumes the military and police are 100% pro government.

264

One of the headlines over at Drudge:

 

"Obama Phone Lady Says: Darn Sure Won't Vote for Obama Again!"

LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ghmBInC2N8

 

Let the multi-layered stupidity of that comment sink in,   then discuss.

265 We are going to be potentially scouting places along the coast since she must be by the water.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 11:55 AM (XkWWK)



May I suggest sunny, warm and right on the ocean, Jacksonville FL. :-)



Plus for you, about 4 other Morons in the immediate area.

266 206 She HATES Texas My wife hated Florida, then we moved down here. There's hope...and really nice weather.

267 So to be more specific, New York Republicans suck aren't Republicans.

Posted by: Laurie David's

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FIFY

 

268 243 J.J. Sefton, well in 1934 they only thought that upstart corporal did not really mean what he was saying. And too many kept deluding themselves even in the camps. And those who do not study history will find themselves back in the camps uttering, "I never thought this could happen [to me]." Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 12:03 PM (QidfK) I can verify this from my mother's experiences. The Hungarian Jews were not deported until March of '44, yet refugees fleeing with eyewitness reports were shunned. Despite this, the sense of panic was palpable. And even at that late date, the Germans managed to all but wipe out the last remaining large Jewish population in Europe.

269 Please do not answer this post. How many of you are ready to draw a line in the sand and make a stand? Have you had enough, or do want to suck that leftist jam some more? Just wondering

270 So  now  Soetoro  wants  to talk about  guns?  Fraud,  hypocrite  &  cake - boy.

271 Ah yes John Brown. Shot down like a dog for his raid. Then in the middle of the Civil War he was exhumed and used to rally the North.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 12:06 PM (QidfK)

Wasn't he hung for treason?

272 265 One of the headlines over at Drudge: "Obama Phone Lady Says: Darn Sure Won't Vote for Obama Again!" LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ghmBInC2N8 Let the multi-layered stupidity of that comment sink in, then discuss. --- Unfortunately, not as stupid as you think if the Congresscritter from NY State has their way. I'd be amazed to find enough red states willing to ratify that amendment though.

273 @258 RE: Gecko45 LOL, if someone told me Seth Rogen's character in Observe and Report was based on this guy, I'd totally believe them.

274 The nominally Republican controlled state Senate approved the gun control bill 43-18.

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Apparently......not this hill either.

275 Plus for you, about 4 other Morons in the immediate area. --- I'm guessing that the large naval base tends to act as a magnet for right-thinking individuals.

276 Please do not answer this post.

Resistance is futile.

277 MWR, maybe He'll pull a FDR, and  maybe she didn't get enough minutes on her phone?

278 yes, hanging....

279
Roll Call Report: House GOP leaders consider four-year debt limit deal




The far right, beacuse it refuses to work with their Republican colleagues on a compromise, will once again have impelled final legislation that is further to the left than would otherwise be the case.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 09:10 AM

280 LOL, if someone told me Seth Rogen's character in Observe and Report was based on this guy, I'd totally believe them.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO

************

Gecko45 was totally messing with the guys on that site and many seemed to fall for it.

281 Let the multi-layered stupidity of that comment sink in, then discuss.

Maybe she knows something we don't.

282 267 206 She HATES Texas My wife hated Florida, then we moved down here. There's hope...and really nice weather. Posted by: akula51 at January 15, 2013 12:10 PM (YesJa) Is she a dyed-in-the-wool lib?

283 Vic, would have to double check.  Was going for the imagery of waving the bloody shirt, hello Garibaldi, to enrage and distract from the real culprits of why that guy was laying there bleeding and dead.

284 All it takes is the media playing any active resistance up as a Waco or Ruby Ridge...a bunch of "Far Right" loonies...people clinging to guns and religion...studies showing how conservatives are inherently bigoted...studies showing liberals to be more educated. Of course this all sounds familiar because it's already happened. The apparatus is in place, driven by the media. The Media's ability to marginalize you didn't exist in 1776 or 1861. Then imagine ATF agents knocking on your door because they know for a fact that you have firearms due to publicly available information. Do you risk your children? Do you leave your children and spouse with your blood splattered all over the floor? You're just a dead kook to the average American.

285

Unfortunately, not as stupid as you think if the Congresscritter from NY State has their way.

 

My response would be, "Ah, so you    would have liked to    potentially     have George W. Bush in office for another term?   Good to know!"

286 I'm guessing that the large naval base tends to act as a magnet for right-thinking individuals.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 12:12 PM (e0xKF)

Eh, you'd be surprised. J-ville just elected a Democrat Mayor.

287 Let the multi-layered stupidity of that comment sink in, then discuss. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 15, 2013 12:10 PM (4df7R) "Are you getting calls for voice over work?"

288 EC, I took it off of the epic Gecko45 rant. If you don't know of it, take a gander...and laugh your ass off.


Sounds like a kid who played too much Call of Duty Modern Warfare.

289 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 15, 2013 12:13 PM (kdS6q) LOL... OUCH!

290 I have a high-risk security job and I fear that I would be the target for repeated long-distance shots to my back.

Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop, say, .338 Lapua or something like that? Is there a better way to do the second plate?

If you have reason to be worried about being shot with a .338 Lapua, body armor should be second on your shopping list after an armored personnel carrier.

291

@285

I agree with that. A lot of people don't. As Texas goes, so do I.

 

State action is key.

292 "Are you getting calls for voice over work?"

Posted by: RWC at January 15, 2013 12:14 PM (fWAjv)

 

lol!

293 We really need to accept   being  the party of nothing.

that way we can win elections because we fooled everyone into believing we could stand on either side of the political aisle , while looking pleasant on t.v.

294 New York State sucks. Still no proposed laws on controlling bat-shit crazy people who exist on psychotropic drugs and ACTUALLY kill people yet. Just laws to restrict lawful gun owners.

295 287 I'm guessing that the large naval base tends to act as a magnet for right-thinking individuals. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 12:12 PM (e0xKF) Eh, you'd be surprised. J-ville just elected a Democrat Mayor. --- Big cities will be big cities. On top of that, I'm also thinking that the troops stationed in J'Ville are still registered to vote at their permanent residence in another state rather than locally.

296 Vic, would have to double check.


I just looked it up.  Yes, he was tried and hung for treason.

297 Posted by: Hard Right at January 15, 2013 12:13 PM (uhftQ) I think some fell for it initially but quickly realized it was fun BS and just rolled with it.

298 Gas in NJ was $3.18 at a station I went by yesterday, and that was an average station. You're still cheaper than even the reservation prices in NY, then. Oh well, I do what little I can do. My profession means that I have to work near a major seaport so I can't just up and go, unfortunately. Not yet, anyways. When the time comes to bug out, I'm ready.

299 Now that I have proven I am not infallible its time for lunch. 

300 I think some fell for it initially but quickly realized it was fun BS and just rolled with it.

Posted by: RWC

*********

He kept making it more outrageous. Pretty darned funny.

The combat wheelbarrow guy is both funny and sad.

301 "Eh, you'd be surprised. J-ville just elected a Democrat Mayor. Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 12:13 PM (da5Wo)" Local economy also blows chunks.

302 So to be more specific, New York Republicans suck. My Representative, George Maziarz (R) voted against the gun-grab bill. I just sent him a thank-you e-mail.

303 ### Is she a dyed-in-the-wool lib? Shit, I sincerely and honestly feel much sympathy for folks in that situation. Love is blind, but neither my wife nor I could have possibly done that to ourselves...since we're really big believers in the whole "Till Death Do Us Part" deal. I grew up just outside DC during the Reagan era and her dad was a (R) State Senator who had a radio show at one point...so other than the recent "strike the R, replace with I" conversion - we're firmly in the reality-based community over here way to the right of center. But Austin is lovely. The most un-Texas-like city in Texas...but whew, still in Deep Red Texas.

304 Oh well, I do what little I can do. My profession means that I have to work near a major seaport so I can't just up and go, unfortunately. Not yet, anyways. When the time comes to bug out, I'm ready.

Posted by: BlueStateRepub

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Just keep the zombies off the ship. World War Z taught me that.

305 anna you are awesome

306 @281 Many thanks for posted the Gecko45 thread, that is gold! "On this particular fateful day my team was assigned to patrol Sector Zebra-1, the mall. It was an uneventful day, until the unthinkable happened…It was about 8:45PM, and the mall was closing and nearly empty. Me and my ’shadow’ were sweeping quadrant 069E, the mall arcade, a known hotspot for Asian Gangs and assorted thugs. The arcade was located at the far east end of the mall, next to the movie theater and the orange julius.I smelled trouble, and couldn’t spot any movement from the arcade, which was unusual due to the presence of a new Mortal Compact arcade game. Those Asians Gangs love Mortal Combat.I went to “condition red,” and discretely unholstered my Glock17 loaded with Black Talons. I motioned to my partner to sweep right to flank the arcade, but he was already in motion sensing the trouble in my facial expression. My partner drew his S&W 1006 and went prone behind a potted palm tree.I crept towards the arcade, when the power went out. It was an ambush! I could still see relatively well due to the full moon, shining through the building’s skylights, and years in a dark secret Russian prison center had honed my natural night vision to that of a tomcat.A perp popped up from behind the Orange Julius counter with a full auto Kalashnikov with a 75rd drum, and opened up in the direction of my partner, meanwhile two perps popped up from behind the skeeball machine with sawed off 12 gauges. Another two perps appeared on the upper level and brought down hell-fire on us from above. One had a Winchester Model 70 in .30-06 with a 10x scope and the other was laying down suppressive fire with a Mac10 variant. The perps were all sporting cheap russian NVGs.I dove under a metal bench, and lined my sights on the AK bandit. A double-tap to the chest, and a quick follow-up to the head brought him down like a sack of potatos..." So Patton Oswalt of him.

307 Big cities will be big cities.

On top of that, I'm also thinking that the troops stationed in J'Ville are still registered to vote at their permanent residence in another state rather than locally.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 12:16 PM (e0xKF)

Honestly, the few times I've heard him speak, he sounds at least somewhat conservative. He's made a lot of noise about bringing different sporting events to Jacksonville in an effort to increase the city's profile and bring in more business. He talks a pretty good game, we'll see how his actions do.

308 Yikes @ Obamaphone thing. How come Alex Jones gets all the best guests?

309 All this gun grabbing and Taxation and Moral Decline is designed by the complex problems of racism and stereotyping.
The politicians are lackeys or have a lack thereof of professional training of any kind, much less run a business and be righteous doing  the business of we the people. When politicians have lost discretion and accountability the we are all at the mercy of their prejudices and impulses and ignorance too common sense.

310 >>>of a thicker plate that could stop, say, .338 Lapua

Armor stops being portable at that point.

311 How come Alex Jones gets all the best guests?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM!

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Nuts of a feather...

312 Wow!  'Girls'  won a  Golden  Globe  and  Jodie  Foster  practically  admitted  lesbianism!   Obama's  America  rules!!

313
  Gosh, what a privilege to live in NY.  Spare me the "Move out of there", I'm too old to uproot again,just did that 4 years ago to get closer to the kids.

   Resistance to these idiot laws is forming, and as all such should be, it involves the law profession.  Can't divulge much more, we'll simply have to see what happens.

  I honestly think our pols aren't smart enough to be classed as stupid.

314 Sean, they just wanted to get your disability numbers up

315 @208 I was born in that town!

You and Polar Scout Paul Siple, inventor of the Wind Chill Factor.

Little story for ya: The retired postmaster there was in WWII, and "seconded" to HM's Forces. Riding through Jerusalem in a British troop-carrier trailer, he looked down between the floorboards and saw the maker's plate: "White Motor Company, Montpelier Ohio."

316 The NY law is atrocious on so many levels.  It requires therapists to report metnally ill patients who own guns, so the police can decide to confiscate them or not.  Great job scaring away the people who most need help.

317 Ace up

318 re: "Imagine if the Jews of Europe had the weapons and the will to use them as early as 1934?"

There's a not insignificant chance that your alternate universe has a Molotov-Ribbentrop-Hull Pact in it.

Remember, it was the State Department's refusal to accept the "Voyage of the Damned" refugees after Kristallnacht that convinced Hitler he was free to get his Holocaust on. And Hull (and Roosevelt) knew exactly what message he was sending in America's name.

If Hitler had been fighting the Jews, I think the U.S. would have joined him.

319 I know Cuomo think this is a huge notch on his belt, but he's basically destroyed whatever national ambitions he had with this gun law.

I want to see a Democrat win states like Virginia, Ohio, PA, Michigan, etc after passing a law that every gun owner has to renew their "gun registration" every 5 years.

I really hope he's the Dem nominee in 2016.

320

Posted by: RWC at January 15, 2013 11:38 AM (fWAjv)

 

Where the hell are you doing business.  Damascus?

 

Seriously, you need to upgrade your vest.  Also you need level IV plates to possibly stop .338.  You can also buy additional kevlar inserts.

321 RWC got me.

322 319 Oblig,

and that is if not 100% true definitely not that false and I am not the person who invokes the regime as God and hate what we did because I learned the lessons of Communism and Fascism of course I read them from a different perspective than Saul Alinsky and Bill Ayers.

Nice post.

323 Unfortunately, buying body armor is not such a paranoid thing to do these days.

324 322 RWC got me. Posted by: polynikes at January 15, 2013 12:32 PM (m2CN7) Sorry about that. I thought most of the horde knew Gecko45.

325 Sorry about that. I thought most of the horde knew Gecko45.

Posted by: RWC at January 15, 2013 12:35 PM (fWAjv)

 

I should have known after the 'stop repeated shots' .  I really knew you knew better but my mind was on a roll. 

326 Drudge just put up the flashing lights:  "GUN CONTROL WEDNESDAY"

327 "...Just one willingly jumps out of good airplanes."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 12:01 PM (QidfK)

 

No sky too high, no blast too fast, you call we fall.

 

Sorry. Once a paratrooper, always a paratrooper.

328 295 New York State sucks. Still no proposed laws on controlling bat-shit crazy people who exist on psychotropic drugs and ACTUALLY kill people yet. Just laws to restrict lawful gun owners. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 15, 2013 12:16 PM (iAUf+) ------------------- This really isn't about saving anybody's life. It's about the final destruction of the Constitution. The only thing that leftists see coming between their final goal is the 2nd Amendment. It's really the only piece of liberty the people have left.

329 Roll Call Report: House GOP leaders consider four-year debt limit deal




The far right, beacuse it refuses to work with their Republican colleagues on a compromise, will once again have impelled final legislation that is further to the left than would otherwise be the case.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 09:10 AM

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 15, 2013 12:13 PM (kdS6q)

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Careful now, Gabe will get pissy with you and try to mock you because you're just not smart enough to understand his nuance and strategy of surrender toward victory.

330 Love O'Keefe.

331 EC, I took it off of the epic Gecko45 rant. If you don't know of it, take a gander...and laugh your ass off.

Ah yes, a classic indeed. The epic of the "tactical" wheelboro.

332 ...Just one willingly jumps out of good airplanes."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 12:01 PM (QidfK)

No sky too high, no blast too fast, you call we fall.

Sorry. Once a paratrooper, always a paratrooper.

Posted by: troyriser at January 15, 2013 12:40 PM (vtiE6)

Rescue swimmer here.  Jumpers are all the same.  Hard as balls, a little crazy, and just the person to have when it all goes to hell.

333 Roh roh--what about revolvers that allow more than 7 shots--usually .22's.  I guess these dreaded hi capacity assault revolvers would be banned too in NY or do you just weld a plug in a couple of the chambers to make it NY compliant. 

334 I would like to remind everyone that the United States of America is itself a 'union'.

So let's all go on strike!  Shut this place down!

335 If we are going to take back the schools, we'd better get busy. I can't find the story I read yesterday, but the new Federal school curriculum is put together by Bill Ayres. We have got to get the Federal government out of the local school system.

336

Careful now, Gabe will get pissy with you and try to mock you because you're just not smart enough to understand his nuance and strategy of surrender toward victory.

 

You guys think that proposal, which includes tax and entitlement reforms we've been seeking for a decade, is "surrender toward victory?" What the hell is wrong with you?

337 337 Gabe Malor,

You think there is a snowball's chance in hell we get to east the Ambrosia of entitlement reform of any kind without Obama and the media turning it into a shit sandwich to get total power back and render it vaporware you're dreaming.

Taking the biggest gun off the table so Obama takes nothing off the table is stupid Gabe.

Your heart may be arguably in line with what I desire, but I've seen this skit before *spoiler warning* Obama yanks away the football.