December 18, 2013

John McCain: The People of Fiji Are "Lovely, Gentle People, Even Though They Used to Eat Each Other"
— Ace


I wonder what the hell he was talking about that led him to note this tasty historical tidbit.

In fact, he's right, or at least Wikipedia says he's right. Fiji was once called "The Cannibal Isles" and cannibalism was practiced there into the early twentieth century.

The quote comes from a critical, mocking New York Times piece called How John McCain Turned His Clichés Into Meaning. It argues McCain is a walking cliché and also driven by a sense of superiority and outrage. On that particular point, I won't charge the paper with political bias.

This part of the story illustrates some of the phoniness of Washington, DC.

When I walk into John McCain’s office a week before Thanksgiving, he is not at all happy — and seems to be enjoying it quite a bit.

He is sampling none of the usual flavors of upset we tend to associate with the Arizona senator: not the “McCain is bitter” or “get off my yard” varieties, not even the “deeply troubled” umbrage that politicians of all stripes love to assume. Here is a man, instead, who is gleefully seizing an opportunity for outrage.

“I am very angry,” McCain says through a smiling grimace. He hands me a photocopied compilation of old quotes from the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, from back when Democrats were in the minority and Republicans were threatening to enact a rule — the so-called nuclear option — that would require only a 51-vote majority to confirm most presidential and judicial nominations. Turns out Reid believed this was a bad idea when the Republicans were in charge but was a good one now, and McCain is packing bullet points.

“I’m going to go kick the crap out of Harry Reid,” he keeps announcing as we walk from his office to the Capitol. Once on the Senate floor, McCain approaches Reid, puts his hands on the majority leader’s shoulders, smiles and says something I can’t make out from the visitors’ gallery above. Reid smiles back, says a few words in reply and places his hands on McCain’s sides. It looks as if they are dancing.

Minutes later, McCain stands to address the chamber. He is, as advertised, very, very unhappy. Today is a “black chapter in the history of the Senate,” he says, referencing something Reid said back in 2008, as a way of pointing out his hypocrisy. He then goes on to explain that this is as “historic” a vote as he can remember casting and that he feels great “sorrow” for the harm done to the institution on this “sad day.”

After McCain leaves the floor, I ask him what he said to Reid before his speech. “I said, ‘Harry, I’m going to go kick the crap out of you.’ Then he said, ‘John, I would expect nothing less.’ ” McCain grins big to conclude this dark chapter in the history of the United States Senate.

"Kick the crap out of Harry Reid" meant "say some empty words on the Senate floor." But the two seem to be buddies, just trading jibes with one another.

And yet, this is the New York Times, so of course it's steeped in bias.

John McCain is a cliché.

It is not his fault, or not entirely. Many of us become walking self-caricatures at a certain point, and politicians can be particularly vulnerable, especially those who have maneuvered their very public lives as conspicuously as McCain. They tell and retell the same stories; things get musty. They engage in a lot of self-mythologizing, and no one in Washington has been the subject and the perpetrator of more mythmaking than McCain: the maverick, the former maverick, the curmudgeon, the bridge builder, the war hero bent on transcending the call of self-interest to serve a cause greater than himself, the sore loser, old bull, last lion, loose cannon, happy warrior, elder statesman, lion in winter . . . you lose track of which McCain cliché is operational at a given moment. He does, too. “I think I was the brave maverick when I was taking on Bush,” McCain told me, “and then I was the bitter old man when I was criticizing Obamacare.”

Um, this author stupidly takes that as a confession when the much more plausible reading is that McCain is noting, darkly, that the media hailed him as a brave maverick when he was attacking Republicans and then decided he was just a bitter old crank when he criticized President Cargo Cult.

Surely this interpretation occurred to the writer. But he'll pretend it didn't, to avoid quoting something derogatory about his guild, and to make his story's thesis.

If there was any context for the Fijians Are Cannibals line, the writer makes sure not to mention it, to make McCain appear as Old Coot-y as possible:

After his screed on the floor against Harry Reid, McCain hurries back to his office for a scheduled sit-down with a group of dignitaries from Australia. “I love the Aussies!” he declares to me outside his office door, then swings it open and is met with a faceful of them. “Sorry I’m late,” he tells them. “I was just up on the floor kicking the crap out of the Democratic leader.” They all sit down, and McCain mentions that Congress’s approval ratings are now so low “we’re down to paid staffers and blood relatives.” He drops this line so often that probably the only people on the planet who haven’t heard it are in Australia. Everyone laughs, and McCain adds that he recently received a call from his 101-year-old mother, and she’s not happy with Congress, either. “So now we’re down to just paid staff,” he says, to genuine belly laughs. A few minutes later, McCain wants to talk about Fiji, the archipelago in the South Pacific where he says he used to vacation with his family. “They are lovely, gentle people,” McCain says of the Fijians, “even though they used to eat each other.”

McCain might have been making a point (like, sure, Congress can deal pleasantly with each other some day, after all, the Fijians...), but if he was, it is carefully removed from any context.

Most of the rest of the article consists of the writer badgering him into saying bad things about Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz. (He changes the subject.)

The writer also gets some juicy quotes from Meghan McCain, using her words to stand in for the things John McCain thinks but cannot say for political reasons. For example:

“I’m really not psyched about going back to Arizona to do another Tea Party election,” Meghan McCain told me. “I honestly don’t know how much more of that I can hear.”


Still... that Fiji quote is sort of funny, I guess. I just wish the writer could be a little more honest about it.


Update: Zombie offers a "True Fact" about Fiji which sounds okay to me so I'm going to count it as "Confirmed."

The King of Fiji in the 1860s was sick of being abused by the British, so he sent a letter to Abraham Lincoln begging him the annex Fiji to the United States -- as a way of freeing the nation from British rule.

The letter was routed to the State Department, where (as far as we can tell) it was assumed to be some kind of practical joke, and the letter eventually fell behind a radiator, unanswered.

About 120 years later, the building was being renovated, and the workers discovered the long-forgotten letter, still there.

Investigations Were Done, and it was determined 12 decades too late that the letter had been sincere, and that Fiji could have and would have been "the other Hawaii" and part of the US if the State Department hadn't been such assholes.

And Now Zombie Clarifies: It did kind of happen, but it wasn't the universally-recognized king.

A one-minute research binge informs me that the story recounted in comment #41 above is a bit more complicated than first reported. The UK and the US were sending competing warships to the Fiji area at that time, rattling sabres over who was going to be dominant in that part of the Pacific. The "king" who offered Fiji to the US was actually a souped-up warlord who was not universally recognized as king by all the islands. Furthermore, he also made the same offer to the Brits, who also initially turned it down.

Later, after the king/warlord bankrupted the islands with typical dictator overspending, the Brits relieved him of the debt on the condition that Fiji become a British colony.


Posted by: Ace at 03:22 PM | Comments (242)
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1 that's the gop leadership, a maverick

Posted by: oc joe at December 18, 2013 03:23 PM (hqVUe)

2 ...and how about them Dog Eatin' Indonesians!?

Posted by: John McCain at December 18, 2013 03:24 PM (15Mpe)

3 If McCain said "worship God," I seriously consider blasphemy and satanism...

Posted by: M. Murcek at December 18, 2013 03:25 PM (GJUgF)

4 I am starting to like him.

Posted by: real joe at December 18, 2013 03:25 PM (xXhgd)

5 Why couldn't we have gotten John McClane?

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 03:25 PM (doBIb)

6 Al-NYT is incapable of a sixteenth the partisan ire I feel at Captain Narcisssus McQueeg USN....

I am angry at him in a partisan manner because I am a Republican, Al-NYT because he has outlived his utility as a mole.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 03:25 PM (9jfyN)

7 If I were really hungry, even I'd eat people...stop the H8!!!

Posted by: Meggy MacNCheese at December 18, 2013 03:26 PM (vEHwq)

8 It argues McCain is a walking cliché and also driven by a sense of superiority and outrage. **** They might be on to something there.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2013 03:26 PM (DmNpO)

9 term limits anyone? and there are so many more just like him.

Posted by: oc joe at December 18, 2013 03:28 PM (hqVUe)

10 8 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2013 07:26 PM (DmNpO)

Hey NDH Al-NYT is staffed by hard hitting pros...

never mind that I had arrived at that conclusion in ~1986 or so....

You can not spell New York Times without the DERP.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 03:28 PM (9jfyN)

11 Unfortunately leftists are still cannibals and not very nice at all.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 03:29 PM (zeV2E)

12 This explains how Fiji Water became so big, while Fiji Jerky never took off.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 18, 2013 03:29 PM (ZshNr)

13 Is it Fiji or another eaty eaty island that has a problem with a disease that comes from eating long pig?


Kuru?   Something like that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at December 18, 2013 03:29 PM (Gk3SS)

14 That piece of shit voted to cut disabled GI retirements. Fuck him.

Posted by: torabora at December 18, 2013 03:30 PM (1jp4v)

15 Meh. I don't care what he says. And I don't care what they said he said. It's all a farce

Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 03:31 PM (zOTsN)

16 I've been to Fiji. The native Fijians are really nice folks. They are so nice they probably haven't told McCain how stupid he is.

Posted by: My Name is Nobody at December 18, 2013 03:31 PM (5Q1ZU)

17 Google for "cannibal fork." (They were shown on the British quiz show QI just a few weeks ago.)

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 18, 2013 03:31 PM (kqGWM)

18 Too bad the Fijians didn't make shis-ka-bobs out of him last time he visited. Fucker.

Posted by: torabora at December 18, 2013 03:31 PM (1jp4v)

19 They needed to eat some people on Fiji, otherwise it could've tipped over

Posted by: Hank Johnson at December 18, 2013 03:32 PM (LDsJ6)

20 McCain respects his long-time Senate colleagues more than anyone else.
More than his constituents.
More than those whacko-bird, tea party johnny-come latelies.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2013 03:32 PM (ruxvM)

21 They can fuck McCain as hard as they like.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 03:33 PM (MMC8r)

22 12 This explains how Fiji Water became so big, while Fiji Jerky never took off. Posted by: Lincolntf at December 18, 2013 07:29 PM (ZshNr) ------ On a recent trip to Fiji, we gave the locals jerky (among other things) as gifts. No kidding.

Posted by: Comment 116 on the previous thread at December 18, 2013 03:33 PM (gXtDC)

23 Cannibalism is racism, straight up.

Posted by: Beagle at December 18, 2013 03:33 PM (sOtz/)

24 I love you gentle Fijian cannibals.  Say, that's a long way down, isn't it.  And what's that in the middle?  Poi?  Really?  Looks good.  Yeah, I'd like to try some.

Posted by: John vs the volcano at December 18, 2013 03:33 PM (6TB1Z)

25 Just don't accept any in return.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 18, 2013 03:34 PM (ZshNr)

26
Alternate post title:

Confirmed: John McCain Is The Angrier, Eviler Version Of Yogi Berra

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 03:34 PM (DlaLh)

27 Can John Kerry handle another diplomatic incident?

Posted by: Jean at December 18, 2013 03:34 PM (4JkHl)

28 It apparently tastes like pork.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 03:34 PM (zeV2E)

29 Arizona. Retire him already

Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 03:34 PM (zOTsN)

30 Say what you will about John McCain, he's quite the cunning linguist.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 18, 2013 03:34 PM (TM1p8)

31 breaking bread with joanne as the main meal what's the problem here!
at least it's not like those american tea partiers  chowing on a random cow or chicken.

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2013 03:34 PM (nqBYe)

32 Build the dang fence!

Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 03:34 PM (zOTsN)

33 A judge Wednesday sentenced a senior Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) official who bilked the agency out of nearly $900,000 and pretended to be a CIA agent to 32 months in prison. John C. Beale, 65, pled guilty in September to charges of felony theft of government property. Beale soaked the EPA for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of fraudulent travel vouchers and illegal bonuses over the course of 13 years.

... OMG  somebody who worked for the government actually is supposed to go to jail.  I'll believe when the slam the door behind him.

Posted by: Diogenes' DisHonest Man at December 18, 2013 03:35 PM (e8kgV)

34 Papua New Guinea is where they suffer from kuru.

Posted by: Dianna at December 18, 2013 03:35 PM (OgoU1)

35 Praising Syrian terrorists as trustworthy, calling former cannibals gentle people.

Gotta save all his hate for the real enemy: Tea party Republicans.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2013 03:35 PM (ruxvM)

36 So is the point of this thread to figure out who is dumber:  Carlos Slim's trained chimp or McRINO?  I'm gonna need a while on this...

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 18, 2013 03:35 PM (NDwST)

37 "Woo Hoo! Christmas in Fiji! Eat your heart out!". Not a popular postcard anymore.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 18, 2013 03:36 PM (ZshNr)

38 "Kick the crap out of Harry Reid" meant "say some empty words on the Senate floor." But the two seem to be buddies, just trading jibes with one another. It's an exclusive club, and they're both members.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2013 03:36 PM (sdi6R)

39 18...Last time we had a politician, he tasted like shit so we don't eat them any more. Sorry.

Posted by: Fijian Cannibal at December 18, 2013 03:36 PM (1jp4v)

40 To think of all that talk in 2008 that John  McCain might drop dead.

Posted by: King Leonidas at December 18, 2013 03:36 PM (e8kgV)

41 True story: The King of Fiji in the 1860s was sick of being abused by the British, so he sent a letter to Abraham Lincoln begging him the annex Fiji to the United States -- as a way of freeing the nation from British rule. The letter was routed to the State Department, where (as far as we can tell) it was assumed to be some kind of practical joke, and the letter eventually fell behind a radiator, unanswered. About 120 years later, the building was being renovated, and the workers discovered the long-forgotten letter, still there. Investigations Were Done, and it was determined 12 decades too late that the letter had been sincere, and that Fiji could have and would have been "the other Hawaii" and part of the US if the State Department hadn't been such assholes.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2013 03:37 PM (+cx5n)

42 Only the good die young

Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 03:37 PM (zOTsN)

43 John McCain, a worse senator than pilot.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 18, 2013 03:37 PM (P1WNR)

44 Eat me!

Posted by: Fijian at December 18, 2013 03:38 PM (JawqV)

45 My friensh, you have nothing to fear with a Fijian White House.

Posted by: Sen. McCain & the Righteous RINO Rodeo [/i] [/b] at December 18, 2013 03:38 PM (B0gqn)

46 ♫ ... She's nice and tasty.
And I can't help myself. ♫

Posted by: Fijian Young Cannibals at December 18, 2013 03:39 PM (LDsJ6)

47 So he's fixing to run again in 2016? Just like Reid. They're going to have to hire that taxidermist in W VA--- the guy who stuffed Byrd well enough to get him re-elected when he was in full rigor mortis.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 18, 2013 03:39 PM (dfYL9)

48 Dear John McCain... You Sir, are a parasite, and a Traitor to your fellow Veterans. According to the Huffington Post, the Obamacare Advertising Budget, is 684 Million dollars per year. According to Paul Ryan, the recent Bill you Voted for, which CUTs military Retirees Cost of Living Increase, will save 6 Billion over 10 years.... or 600 Million per year. That your vote show that you believe its more important to fund GAY Advertising for an unpopular Takeover of 1/6 of the Economy, vice keeping the Promise you made to those who put their lives on the line to protect this country... Shows me that you are not worthy to lead this once Great Nation.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 03:39 PM (lZBBB)

49 Fiji could have and would have been "the other Hawaii" and part of the US if the State Department hadn't been such assholes.

Is that a good thing?  I don't necessarily want another dysfunctional culture full of dependency and resentment as a state.  We have Massachusetts for that.

Posted by: pep at December 18, 2013 03:39 PM (6TB1Z)

50 Senile fuck

Posted by: RWC (Vagina Owl from the Future) at December 18, 2013 03:39 PM (Q6HBD)

51 McCain would  get admiratin from me if he would point out the land deals and pay to play by Reid  and his union buds.

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2013 03:39 PM (nqBYe)

52 Fiji could have and would have been "the other Hawaii" and part of the US if the State Department hadn't been such assholes.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2013 07:37 PM (+cx5n)



Lurch is in the perfect setting.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 18, 2013 03:39 PM (NDwST)

53 ... if the State Department hadn't been such assholes. Posted by: zombie **** Switch weren't for hadn't been and it's universally accurate.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at December 18, 2013 03:40 PM (MhA4j)

54 McCain would get admiratin from me if he would point out the land deals and pay to play by Reid and his union buds.

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2013 07:39 PM (nqBYe)



So you're waiting for that senile fuck to honor his promise to "name names"?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 18, 2013 03:41 PM (NDwST)

55 The People of Fiji Are "Lovely, Gentle People, Even Though They Used to Eat Each Other"


Wow, I guess there are things worse than Kaboom.

Posted by: Rocks at December 18, 2013 03:41 PM (vR0sZ)

56 Oh, poor Maggie Mac. "Stop bankrupting the country" is *sooooo* hard to hear. It's like hate speech. Vacca foeda.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 18, 2013 03:42 PM (qyfb5)

57 ..another dysfunctional culture full of dependency and resentment as a state. We have Massachusetts for that. Posted by: pep **** It's the White Hawaii

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at December 18, 2013 03:42 PM (MhA4j)

58 I hope for a day in the near future that mccains self dealing will be revealed

Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 03:43 PM (zOTsN)

59 "Fiji could have and would have been 'the other Hawaii' and part of the US if the State Department hadn't been such assholes."

Considering that the original Hawaii has been an infectious vector for insane socialistic crap in American politics for many decades now, it is all to the good that there isn't another one of them.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2013 03:43 PM (gqT4g)

60 Pro-tip. Never order Ginger Tea in Fiji.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 18, 2013 03:44 PM (ZshNr)

61 He should send his daughter to Fiji. With an apple in her mouth

Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 03:44 PM (zOTsN)

62 >>>A few minutes later, McCain wants to talk about Fiji, the archipelago in the South Pacific where he says he used to vacation with his family.<<<


Maybe you'd like to come back???

... bring Meghan!!!

Posted by: A Starving Village In Fiji at December 18, 2013 03:44 PM (LDsJ6)

63 So you're waiting for that senile fuck to honor his promise to "name names"?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 18, 2013 07:41 PM (NDwST)

Captain Hate I did hold my breath for a few minutes during the election and decided believing in McCain would be bad for my health.

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2013 03:44 PM (nqBYe)

64 They eat those giant stone heads buried in the ground?

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 18, 2013 03:45 PM (R6JT1)

65 you all are pikers. cali has 11-12% of the population. we will spend ourselves into oblivion faster then the rest of you. you pikers do cities. we will do the whole state

Posted by: oc joe at December 18, 2013 03:45 PM (hqVUe)

66 Hive mind

Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 03:45 PM (zOTsN)

67 Juan McCain is the Juan Biden of the (R)etards...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 18, 2013 03:46 PM (vHRtU)

68 59 "Fiji could have and would have been 'the other Hawaii' and part of the US if the State Department hadn't been such assholes." Considering that the original Hawaii has been an infectious vector for insane socialistic crap in American politics for many decades now, it is all to the good that there isn't another one of them. We should have permanently leased Pearl Harbor and walled it off like Guantanamo Bay. Then they could languish like Vanavatu or the other Pacific Island disaster areas pretending to be nations. Pearl Harbor is the only strategic reason to keep Hawaii.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 03:46 PM (zeV2E)

69 A one-minute research binge informs me that the story recounted in comment #41 above is a bit more complicated than first reported. The UK and the US were sending competing warships to the Fiji area at that time, rattling sabres over who was going to be dominant in that part of the Pacific. The "king" who offered Fiji to the US was actually a souped-up warlord who was not universally recognized as king by all the islands. Furthermore, he also made the same offer to the Brits, who also initially turned it down. Later, after the king/warlord bankrupted the islands with typical dictator overspending, the Brits relieved him of the debt on the condition that Fiji become a British colony.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2013 03:47 PM (+cx5n)

70 63 willow at December 18, 2013 07:44 PM (nqBYe)

Hurricane Felix?

That was me finally breathing again after deciding McQueeg was full of shit as usual.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 03:47 PM (9jfyN)

71 Long Pig should be served either BBQ or with garlic and onions, my jungle friends tell me.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 18, 2013 03:47 PM (vHRtU)

72 Pearl Harbor is the only strategic reason to keep Hawaii. Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 07:46 PM (zeV2E) And Air Bases..... and Lua Lua Lai.... a huge ammo depot... and the Marine Base, with a Division on it... and...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 03:48 PM (lZBBB)

73 "Man, these Fijians are a surly bunch!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at December 18, 2013 03:48 PM (u6nf+)

74
These people in govt sicken me.

Someday...

We'll hear bullwhips cracking. Screaming.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 03:49 PM (NLH1M)

75 That's the most perfect depiction of Washingtonitis ever. It's no longer a battle. It a collegial game of checkers. "I'mma beat-cha." "Ha ha ha, we'll see about that." It's not Grandma's savings or lives or America. It's a lot of public speaking and beejers. And lots and lots of graft.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 03:49 PM (gtjN1)

76 72 Pearl Harbor is the only strategic reason to keep Hawaii. Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 07:46 PM (zeV2E) And Air Bases..... and Lua Lua Lai.... a huge ammo depot... and the Marine Base, with a Division on it... and... The only essential area to US Pacific interests in 1898 was the harbor. All that other stuff is ancillary.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 03:50 PM (zeV2E)

77 And he still thinks the media are his friends.  And he will always thing that.

Posted by: Jocon307 at December 18, 2013 03:50 PM (7+F2i)

78 Eat me!

Posted by: Zombie Helen Thomas' wheel-barrow toted labia at December 18, 2013 03:50 PM (6fSty)

79 Apparently all we need to do to get rid of him is to ask if another guys ass hole turns him on. A no answer would apparently ostracize him if recent news is any guide.

Posted by: UWP at December 18, 2013 03:51 PM (2hQRj)

80 Another Long Pig recipe is for Hobo Jerky. Apparently it takes a quite long brine to get the stank off but after that applewood or mesquite is said to produce superior lean jerky that will store at room temp essentially forever if vacuum packed.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 18, 2013 03:51 PM (vHRtU)

81 it's sad but possibly true that i imagine McCain saying to Harry prior to getting on the floor, ..
"hey just go with this ok" McCain reaches to Harry and says, I love ya man, but really act like i'm being mean alright?  ok alright, I gotta have a pic taken and i think tea parties might be lookin at us. "

Harry, "alright man but look after dinner at my house tomorrow night i want a pic of your daughter fluffing Obama , ok? "

"no problem, she's already there " McCain.

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2013 03:51 PM (nqBYe)

82 Obama went to Fiji, and all he ate was crackers.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 18, 2013 03:52 PM (ZshNr)

83 I don't want to hear any talk of longface pig.

Posted by: John Kerry, The Supreme Intellectual at December 18, 2013 03:52 PM (JQuNB)

84 "Fuck me. I fucking voted for that guy." - Many of us (sigh)

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 18, 2013 03:52 PM (54dkR)

85 That this craven POS is still in good standing in the GOP, let alone it's former Presidential Candidate (WTF???) tells you all that you need to know about representative government in DC.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 18, 2013 03:52 PM (duazi)

86 The only essential area to US Pacific interests in 1898 was the harbor. All that other stuff is ancillary. Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 07:50 PM (zeV2E) Even in 1898, you don't keep Ammo near the ships... although there were intermediary Ammo Bunkers on Ford Island (where I worked for awhile).

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 03:53 PM (lZBBB)

87 He's kind of what Cliff Claven would have been if Cliff was a US Senator...and a back stabbing, unprincipled, lying shitweasel of a mean, nasty son of a bitch.

Posted by: Ook? at December 18, 2013 03:53 PM (FBkKA)

88 Papua New Guinea is where they suffer from kuru. Posted by: Dianna at December 18, 2013 07:35 PM (OgoU1)


Thank you!

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at December 18, 2013 03:53 PM (Gk3SS)

89

Fiji has Soylent Green !!!

Posted by: wth at December 18, 2013 03:53 PM (wAQA5)

90 Mele Kaliki-Mahi-Mahi!

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 18, 2013 03:53 PM (R6JT1)

91 And he still thinks the media are his friends. And he will always thing that. I don't think he even thinks that way anymore. It's all play-acting now. It's not friends or enemies. That played out years ago. Now it's the media has something he wants, and they make him work to get it. He wants publicity. He'll play the game to get it.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 03:53 PM (gtjN1)

92
Someday...

It'll be like the season 1 finale of Spartacus.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 03:54 PM (LVtr+)

93 Posted by: akula51 at December 18, 2013 07:52 PM (54dkR) Yup.... and was told I was a TRAITOR for even bringing up anything negative about him...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 03:54 PM (lZBBB)

94 So Mccain invites the paper that shat on him 2008 to dump a last fresh steaming pile on him.

Reading it he sounds like a spoiled child craving attention, probably the truth.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 18, 2013 03:54 PM (AWmfW)

95 Captain Hate I did hold my breath for a few minutes during the election and decided believing in McCain would be bad for my health.

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2013 07:44 PM (nqBYe)



True story:  before 2008 I couldn't understand why Rush, people here and at Tepid Gas were being so mean to McCain; by the time the election rolled around I couldn't figure out why they were being so nice to the rancid turd.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 18, 2013 03:55 PM (NDwST)

96 The native Fijiians are a pretty conservative bunch, outspokenly Christian, generally. The village structure serves as the focal point for many services. They worked out property rights in a much more satisfactory way than the Hawaiians and the land is leased, not sold, to non-Fijiians looking to conduct business, reside, etc. Much different outcome for them than in Hawaii.

Posted by: Little Gulp at December 18, 2013 03:55 PM (gXtDC)

97 Speaking of eating people..er of eating at least... I made the best chicken and dumplings ever tonight. *Incites battle over drop biscuit dumplings vs rolled and cut dumplings*

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2013 03:55 PM (hFL/3)

98 I know that it is bad blog  etiquette to go OT before  100 posts, but, I need to ask the Hoarde their opinion.  I am thinking of starting a  little boys  lesson center. I have tools and the space to allow boys to tear apart engines, work with wood working tools, do general farm work. learn to use a forge and enough room for them to play at army games. Any ideas and down side that you can offer me  would be most appreciated.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 18, 2013 03:55 PM (AyQ43)

99 Thank you for your service to your country, John McCain. Now fuck off.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 03:55 PM (MMC8r)

100 I read all these and am still convinced there is no difference between McCain and Reid. None.

Posted by: EROWMER at December 18, 2013 03:56 PM (OONaw)

101 the land is leased, not sold, to non-Fijiians looking to conduct business, reside, etc. So property rights are non-existent for outsiders. Nope, Fiji's off the list.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 03:56 PM (gtjN1)

102 A senator such as John McCain must make you Republicans very proud.

Posted by: The Palm Beach Agorist at December 18, 2013 03:56 PM (1TraE)

103 95 Captain Hate at December 18, 2013 07:55 PM (NDwST)

How much did I hate Barack Obama?

I hate Barack Obama enough I willingly ate McCain's bullshit and canvassed for him despite my hatred of him.

I will not play that game in '16

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 03:56 PM (9jfyN)

104 100 I read all these and am still convinced there is no difference between McCain and Reid. None. Posted by: EROWMER at December 18, 2013 07:56 PM (OONaw) --------- Harry Reid hasn't crashed any planes.

Posted by: Little Gulp at December 18, 2013 03:57 PM (gXtDC)

105
Do you notice how every Tom Hanks movie is the "#1 Movie!!" and has "critics raving about it" two weeks before they open?

All of it is Bullshit.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 03:57 PM (ZgBZU)

106 He's kind of what Cliff Claven would have been if Cliff was a US Senator...and a back stabbing, unprincipled, lying shitweasel of a mean, nasty son of a bitch.

Posted by: Ook? at December 18, 2013 07:53 PM (FBkKA)



This person is very perceptive.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 18, 2013 03:57 PM (NDwST)

107 Posted by: Ben Had at December 18, 2013 07:55 PM (AyQ43) You'll need good Insurance and an Iron Clad Waiver...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 03:57 PM (lZBBB)

108
I don't think he even thinks that way anymore. It's all play-acting now. It's not friends or enemies. That played out years ago. Now it's the media has something he wants, and they make him work to get it. He wants publicity. He'll play the game to get it.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 18, 2013 07:53 PM (gtjN1)


I cant see what he got out of this. He comes off badly.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 18, 2013 03:58 PM (AWmfW)

109 You have nothing to fear from a John McCain in the Senate.

Posted by: 97 other Senators at December 18, 2013 03:58 PM (nkPV9)

110 John McCain is your senile old uncle that rants from the couch in between naps and farts...but on a national level.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 03:58 PM (MMC8r)

111 It'll be like the season 1 finale of Spartacus.

Are there any cast openings for a hot chocolate sipping slave boy?

Posted by: SnuggleBares94 at December 18, 2013 03:59 PM (R6JT1)

112 A senator such as John McCain must make you Republicans very proud.

Posted by: The Palm Beach Agorist at December 18, 2013 07:56 PM (1TraE)


uh hmm, as proud as dems must be of Pelosi and Reid.

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2013 03:59 PM (nqBYe)

113 Any ideas and down side that you can offer me would be most appreciated.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 18, 2013 07:55 PM (AyQ43)


Insurance against accidents? 

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 18, 2013 03:59 PM (AWmfW)

114
Remember when they were hyping the shit out of POLAR EXPRESS?

They billed it as an "Instant Holiday Classic!"

Yeah, right.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 03:59 PM (NLH1M)

115 98 Ben Had at December 18, 2013 07:55 PM (AyQ43)

Insurance, blackmail potential, potential for loss of equipment.

Now you have to balance that with the potential to change lives and impact tomorrow one small step at a time.

My initial points are not aimed at you, and are a source of rage because I think our society is being purposefully destroyed form within by the dark forces you wish to fight and teach lads to fight.

Hope things work for you.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 03:59 PM (9jfyN)

116 "Speaking of eating people..er of eating at least... I made the best chicken and dumplings ever tonight. *Incites battle over drop biscuit dumplings vs rolled and cut dumplings*" Recipe or it didn't happen. And DROP.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 18, 2013 04:00 PM (vHRtU)

117 98 I know that it is bad blog etiquette to go OT before 100 posts, but, I need to ask the Hoarde their opinion. I am thinking of starting a little boys lesson center. I have tools and the space to allow boys to tear apart engines, work with wood working tools, do general farm work. learn to use a forge and enough room for them to play at army games. Any ideas and down side that you can offer me would be most appreciated. Posted by: Ben Had Insurance, insurance, insurance, and a good lawyer. Guaranteed that eventually one of those boys will injure themselves unless heavily supervised, and once they're hurt, the lawsuits begin. That, sadly, is the reality of modern America.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2013 04:00 PM (+cx5n)

118 Drop Biscuit Dumplings, for sure.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 04:00 PM (aFTxd)

119 Do you notice how every Tom Hanks movie is the "#1 Movie!!" and has "critics raving about it" two weeks before they open? Know how they always have one word reviews in promotional material? "Riveting" -Washington Post "Extraordinary" -New York Times. Yeah, that's not enough context to know the real quote. What if it was more like "I thought Tom Hanks couldn't do any worse than Turner and Hooch, but he surpassed himself by far, it's simply extraordinary!"

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 04:00 PM (gtjN1)

120 104 Little Gulp at December 18, 2013 07:57 PM (gXtDC)

and Juan McCain has a fairly empty crawl space.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 04:01 PM (9jfyN)

121 Given the liberals' penchant for insulting their key demographics recently I'm half expecting the administration's next Obamacare push to be towards African Americans. The f--- up will be to use a picture of Al Jolson in Jazz Singer advertising Obamacare's abortion coverage.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 04:01 PM (zeV2E)

122 I am thinking of starting a little boys lesson center. Me, too.

Posted by: Filthy Harry Reid at December 18, 2013 04:01 PM (MMC8r)

123 Kcuf John McCain.

Makes me ashamed he's USN.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:02 PM (LSDdO)

124 hey how about waters: jackson, barney frank, and nothing like the notable Blagovich?
wonder what He's up to these days.

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2013 04:02 PM (nqBYe)

125 I would volunteer O'Reilly as tribute

Posted by: thunderb at December 18, 2013 04:02 PM (RypJ2)

126 The women of Lesbos are lovely, gentle people. Even though they used to eat each other.

Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2013 04:02 PM (6UXQc)

127

he really gives Hairy 'Roid a run for his money as the most unlikable man in DC.


Posted by: mc at December 18, 2013 04:02 PM (lrfmC)

128 98 I know that it is bad blog etiquette to go OT before 100 posts, but, I need to ask the Hoarde their opinion. I am thinking of starting a little boys lesson center. I have tools and the space to allow boys to tear apart engines, work with wood working tools, do general farm work. learn to use a forge and enough room for them to play at army games. Any ideas and down side that you can offer me would be most appreciated. Posted by: Ben Had at December 18, 2013 07:55 PM (AyQ43) --------------------------------- Great idea! The first thing you need is a good insurance agent and a lawyer. You've got to get a handle on liability problems.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 18, 2013 04:02 PM (dfYL9)

129 "Reggie, we need to go to Fiji ASAP. All they do is eat each other!!!!!"

Posted by: President Choad-Load at December 18, 2013 04:03 PM (vHRtU)

130 Nope, Grandma Ruby's sweet milk dumplings rolled out thin. You're invited to dinner for proof.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at December 18, 2013 04:04 PM (dw7lk)

131 121 Given the liberals' penchant for insulting their key demographics recently I'm half expecting the administration's next Obamacare push to be towards African Americans. The f--- up will be to use a picture of Al Jolson in Jazz Singer advertising Obamacare's abortion coverage. Posted by: Naes1984 Better yet: A picture of Margaret Sanger, and a word-balloon saying: "ObamaCare's free birth control will stop the proliferation of undesirables and impure races! I say to the Negro: Sign up today!"

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2013 04:04 PM (+cx5n)

132 Cold beer is tasty

Posted by: thunderb at December 18, 2013 04:04 PM (RypJ2)

133 Any ideas and down side that you can offer me would be most appreciated Consult your insurance broker.

Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2013 04:04 PM (6UXQc)

134 Fajitas. Yummm

Posted by: thunderb at December 18, 2013 04:05 PM (RypJ2)

135 You're invited to dinner for proof. 2,000 rowdy morons show up to dinner tonight.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 04:05 PM (gtjN1)

136
These dirty rotten politicians remind of that restaurant scene in the Keanu Reeves movie with Al Pacino as Satan.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 04:05 PM (+oin+)

137 I guess the Duck Dynasty dude got the axe for saying he thinks gay buttsex is gross. Never actually seen the show. Probably could've predicted he thought that. But he's committed a thought-crime and now can no longer be on the TV.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:06 PM (ZPrif)

138 I was chastised by a Moderator at Red State for mentioning that his nomination was similar to a turd in a punch bowl.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:06 PM (LSDdO)

139 Thanks to you that have answered- Supervision will not be a problem  and  insurance  is definitely a must but I need input on what people feel little boys  need to be able to explore  at ages 6 to 10.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 18, 2013 04:06 PM (AyQ43)

140 I'm not clicking on the NYT, but did they run the Photoshop of McCain with the blood dripping off his fangs?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at December 18, 2013 04:06 PM (hO8IJ)

141 Fuck me. I fucking voted for that guy."

I voted for him to die.  Still waiting.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 18, 2013 04:06 PM (DL2i+)

142 Is Sharkman in this thread?

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 04:07 PM (V6E6P)

143 Queso. With chips. Real chips

Posted by: thunderb at December 18, 2013 04:07 PM (RypJ2)

144 Will Amazon and Walmart be forced to pull his merch?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:07 PM (ZPrif)

145 " "Kick the crap out of Harry Reid" meant "say some empty words on the Senate floor." But the two seem to be buddies, just trading jibes with one another. "

He's a legend in his own mind.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 18, 2013 04:07 PM (AWmfW)

146 Really O/T but really sad news. Pastor Ken Hutcherson has passed away. This is a huge loss. He was a stalwart man of faith and a rock ribbed conservative, an amazing and gifted speaker, former NFL player, father, husband and all around good guy. He will be sadly missed. Lefties, I am sure, think Christmas has come early for them. I can only imagine the hate filled screeds that will be popping up all over message boards tonight. Incidentally, he performed Rush and Katherine Limbaugh's wedding and was a good friend of Glen Beck. So sad.

Posted by: runningrn at December 18, 2013 04:07 PM (PLOz8)

147 Quite frankly, I don't know what Lindsey sees in him.

Posted by: mc at December 18, 2013 04:07 PM (lrfmC)

148 Tres Leches cake. Will share

Posted by: thunderb at December 18, 2013 04:07 PM (RypJ2)

149 I guess the Duck Dynasty dude got the axe for saying he thinks gay buttsex is gross. A&E dropped him?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 04:08 PM (gtjN1)

150 I guess the Duck Dynasty dude got the axe for saying he thinks gay buttsex is gross.

When will people learn:

Never explain, never apologize.

(at least not to your known enemies)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:08 PM (LSDdO)

151 *to the kids of Nevada*

You have nothing to fear with Harry Reid near your house.

Posted by: Juan McCain at December 18, 2013 04:08 PM (LDsJ6)

152 138 I was chastised by a Moderator at Red State for mentioning that his nomination was similar to a turd in a punch bowl.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 08:06 PM (LSDdO)


Moderates are the worst...

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 18, 2013 04:08 PM (AWmfW)

153 what McCain might have been right about?

bomb , bomb, bomb,  bomb, bomb Iran and
Fight , fight!

unfortunately He didn't fight with us.

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2013 04:09 PM (nqBYe)

154 If it wasn't for Meghan's fat titties I'd have next to no interest in this below-average family of clowns.

Posted by: Fritz at December 18, 2013 04:10 PM (TKFmG)

155 I never watched 'Duck Dynasty,' but if I were one of the other guys on that show, I'd walk.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 04:10 PM (MMC8r)

156 Wonder what the rest of the Duck family do now? Keep taking the money and keep quiet? Probably.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:10 PM (ZPrif)

157 Its the best show on A and E. Someone else will pick up the show

Posted by: thunderb at December 18, 2013 04:10 PM (RypJ2)

158 He's a legend in his own mind.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 18, 2013 08:07 PM (AWmfW)

And that bubble is shrinking daily.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:11 PM (LSDdO)

159 98 I am thinking of starting a little boys lesson center. I have tools and the space to allow boys to tear apart engines, work with wood working tools, do general farm work. learn to use a forge and enough room for them to play at army games. Posted by: Ben Had at December 18, 2013 07:55 PM (AyQ43) ------------------------------ I hope you'll find a way to do this. I would have loved to have something like that for my boys. If you get it going, be sure to contact home-school groups. It sounds like the kind of thing they'd like.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 18, 2013 04:11 PM (dfYL9)

160 I wonder. The Gay Mafia is strong.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:11 PM (ZPrif)

161 I never watched 'Glee,' but if I were one of the other guys on that show, I'd walk funny.

Posted by: mc at December 18, 2013 04:11 PM (lrfmC)

162 Do duck decoys have solidarity?

Posted by: Joe Biden sinks like stone at December 18, 2013 04:12 PM (R6JT1)

163 BURN THE WITCH http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/duck-dynastys-phil-robertson-indefinite-666808 Please write your cable TV provider and tell them what you think about this.

Posted by: President Choad-Load at December 18, 2013 04:12 PM (vHRtU)

164 Giving an interview to GQ was dumb. They hate right-wingers.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:12 PM (ZPrif)

165 They will walk. They will be sued. Its A and Es cash cow

Posted by: thunderb at December 18, 2013 04:12 PM (RypJ2)

166 155 --- at December 18, 2013 08:10 PM (MMC8r)

It's a family so they may well....

it is always charming that the Glee Mafia can spike a show they are not the main viewers of and I cannot do the same in reverse on LOGO....

why it is almost as though Conservatism would be better served by creating a Conservative version of BET and actually having Conservative entertainment.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 04:12 PM (9jfyN)

167 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 08:06 PM (ZPrif)

The Robertsons are everything liberals hate: http://youtu.be/2TZD8nT6Hlg

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2013 04:12 PM (LUkGY)

168 Isn't John McCain special, looking down on other people's cannibalism. He's Irish, you say, of an old Argyll clan? He should look to his own.

Hell, half my ancestors ate the other half. Nothing personal, it was politics.

Who the hell says "get off my yard"? That's the Times, trying to sound American. It's a lawn you get off. They yard goes without saying, since it's defined by the flight distance of a clothyard shaft.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2013 04:13 PM (xq1UY)

169 McCain  still would have been better than THIS, and be honest we would Be allowed to spike Him when He  overreached, unlike now.

same with Romney.
and we would have had media /hellywood, and the left helping .

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2013 04:13 PM (nqBYe)

170  I guess the Duck Dynasty dude got the axe for saying he thinks gay buttsex is gross.  A&E dropped him? ________ I can't imagine that. They are practically printing money from that show. I don't know how hardcore Lib they are, but I doubt they're idiots.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 04:13 PM (V6E6P)

171 "Recipe or it didn't happen. And DROP." Well, since you are clearly correct regarding the dumplings, you get the "recipe" such as it is since I mostly just wing it. Preheat oven to 450 Step one- Brown some seasoned chicken in a dutch oven with a tablespoon or so of whatever fat makes you happy. Step two- Remove chicken to a plate and add roughly chopped celery, onions, and carrots to the dutch oven used to brown the chicken. Step three- salt and sauté veggies until softened and starting to brown. Step four- throw the chicken on top of the veggies and roast in the oven for 18ish minutes. Meanwhile make these here biscuits, but add another tablespoon of butter because they're clearly on crack about the needed amount: http://southernfood.about.com/od/breadrecipes/r/Drop-Dumplings-For-Stew.htm Then take the roasting chicken & veggies out of the oven. Remove the chicken and toss in some chicken stock and poultry seasoning. I usually add a splash of stock to make a concentrate first and then add the rest in about 2 minutes later. Let that get nice and simmering while you shred the chicken. Toss the shredded chicken back in the pot , season to taste, and then grab the drop rolls in about 1 inch balls and toss in the stew. Simmer about 15 minutes, rotating dumplings halfway through. Eat. Then eat your kids' leftovers. Try not to eat your husband's. Hopefully that makes sense.

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2013 04:13 PM (hFL/3)

172 Which is why they are being targeted for destruction and removal from TV.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:13 PM (ZPrif)

173
I thought the Duck Dynasty was quite tactful in his opinion. If it were me, not so much. I would've expressed my disgust at how silly it was to take seriously people who center their relationship around the penetration of the human male's shit pipe.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 04:14 PM (KeJAW)

174 Okay A and E mess with the highest rated show in the history of cable television. They should up and leave. Go to another network. End of story.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 04:14 PM (zeV2E)

175 165 They will walk. They will be sued. Its A and Es cash cow

Posted by: thunderb at December 18, 2013 08:12 PM (RypJ2)


What if they say the same thing about gays?

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 18, 2013 04:14 PM (AWmfW)

176 I am thinking of starting a little boys lesson center. I have tools and the space to allow boys to tear apart engines, work with wood working tools, do general farm work. learn to use a forge and enough room for them to play at army games.

Great idea!

Posted by: Harry from Nevada at December 18, 2013 04:14 PM (+lsX1)

177 "They are practically printing money from that show. " Not to mention the fact that exactly zero libs from lib land watch the show anyway so it's not going to cut into their audience any.

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2013 04:14 PM (hFL/3)

178 Yep, he is on "indefinite" suspension from the show. A&E abjectly apologized for his GQ interview and said they have always been champions of the LGBT movement and gay marriage.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:14 PM (ZPrif)

179 Huh. Test : &&&

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 04:15 PM (V6E6P)

180 Tell A & E you want MORE gay ass-sex. Preferably ass-rape of minors. Live, no porn.

Posted by: President Choad-Load at December 18, 2013 04:15 PM (vHRtU)

181 A duck has become a symbol in our culture war. I hope the a Duck Dynasty guys stand firm.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2013 04:16 PM (EWsrI)

182 When the hell did I get upgraded to platinum status? And why didn't someone tell me? &&&&&&&&&

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 04:16 PM (V6E6P)

183 &&&&

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2013 04:17 PM (LUkGY)

184 176 I am thinking of starting a little boys lesson center. I have tools and the space to allow boys to tear apart engines, work with wood working tools, do general farm work. learn to use a forge and enough room for them to play at army games. Great idea! Posted by: Harry from Nevada at December 18, 2013 08:14 PM (+lsX1) ******** That guy in the footie pajamas can be the- Drill Sergeant!

Posted by: Andy Sullivan with Bells On! at December 18, 2013 04:17 PM (RJMhd)

185
You don't get it. It's all about the ad dollar$.

If the sponsors walk, the show is over. Firing the guy might keep the very very cowardly pc-minded sponsors from walking.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 04:17 PM (vzLhi)

186 @159 Thank you. I am in a position to be able to persue this and I am sick of watching little boys be doped to the gills because they are not little girls. My feeling is boys need to get in the dirt, tear things up before they learn how to put them back together,and go back to using their imagination.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 18, 2013 04:17 PM (AyQ43)

187 "178 Yep, he is on "indefinite" suspension from the show. A&E abjectly apologized for his GQ interview and said they have always been champions of the LGBT movement and gay marriage." No big surprise since they've been begging the family to stop praying in Jesus' name since the beginning.

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2013 04:18 PM (hFL/3)

188 The GQ excerpt I read wasn't especially mean. He just seemed to say he didn't understand why a man would prefer another's man's anus over lady hoohah. And he specifically said he loved everyone and we all sinners, etc, etc. I didn't even see anything about gay marriage. Maybe I missed that part. Seemed to be classic hate the sin, not the sinner Christian talk. But calling gay buttsex a sin is a thought crime. I think all buttsex is gross. That's where poop comes from.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:18 PM (ZPrif)

189 It's all about the ad dollar$.

If the sponsors walk, the show is over. Firing the guy might keep the very very cowardly pc-minded sponsors from walking.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 08:17 PM (vzLhi)


Yeah, but the same thing happens if the viewers walk.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2013 04:18 PM (LUkGY)

190 A&E's always been a 'progressive' network. Frankly I never knew what they were doing with that show anyway. Maybe they can bring back 'Queer Eye' and DD can go to CMT or something.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 04:18 PM (MMC8r)

191 &&&&&&&&&

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2013 04:18 PM (nqBYe)

192 If we don't tack leftwards in our programming, who will?

Be More beholden to tantrum and salad tossers

Posted by: PBS at December 18, 2013 04:18 PM (R6JT1)

193 Sooo.... according to the Gays, the Bible is now Hate Speech... and paraphrasing it ACCURATLY is now a firing Offense. I guess they do not understand the concept of Freedom of Religion?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 04:19 PM (lZBBB)

194 Country Singer, did you just try to ampersand? I'm grinning out loud thinking you did

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 04:19 PM (V6E6P)

195 “Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong… Sin becomes fine. Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

Posted by: RWC (Vagina Owl from the Future) at December 18, 2013 04:20 PM (Q6HBD)

196
If, say, Toyota advertises on the show, right now they're getting bombarded by the homosexuals demanding they pull their ads or the no homo will ever buy a Toyota again and Toyota will be declared "anti-gay."

What do you think Toyota will do?

Exactly.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 04:20 PM (052zE)

197 Yes, yes I did.

*Hangs head in shame*

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2013 04:20 PM (LUkGY)

198 We MUST destroy A & E and their SPONSORS. Get on that right now, MAIL and email their sponsors. DESTROY THEM.

Posted by: President Choad-Load at December 18, 2013 04:20 PM (vHRtU)

199 every time i see that hot chocolate dude i keep thinking its a snap from just before his dad punches him in the face because he realized that smug little shit is on his health insurance for the next 4 years and he's got to pay for all that fissure surgery and valtrex.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 18, 2013 04:20 PM (RLTt1)

200 Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 08:20 PM (052zE)

That's a non sequitur.  Substitute "Subaru" for "Toyota" and you have an impact.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2013 04:22 PM (LUkGY)

201 196 If, say, Toyota advertises on the show, right now they're getting bombarded by the homosexuals demanding they pull their ads or the no homo will ever buy a Toyota again and Toyota will be declared "anti-gay." What do you think Toyota will do? Exactly. Only homosexuals buy Priuses. It practically has a fleshlight anal attachment to it.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 04:22 PM (zeV2E)

202 Phil Robertson is Duck Dynasty

Posted by: Billy Gibbons at December 18, 2013 04:22 PM (N3Al8)

203 196
If, say, Toyota advertises on the show, right now they're getting bombarded by the homosexuals demanding they pull their ads or the no homo will ever buy a Toyota again and Toyota will be declared "anti-gay."

What do you think Toyota will do?

Exactly.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 08:20 PM (052zE)


How big is the homo market ?


Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 18, 2013 04:22 PM (AWmfW)

204 That's ok. Looks like willow tried too. I don't know where it came from, but I noticed I got one in a cut & paste. Then it worked in my test. & now it still works & I'm showing off.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 04:22 PM (V6E6P)

205 &&&&&&&

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:23 PM (LSDdO)

206 Ampersand FAIL!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:23 PM (LSDdO)

207 203 Temper Tantrum at December 18, 2013 08:22 PM (AWmfW)

98% of the market I guess...

until the right freezes a target and boycotts the everloving fuck out of it we will lose this unilateral war....

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 04:24 PM (9jfyN)

208 DESTROY A & E. Draw a line. Send a message. Enough is enough.

Posted by: President Choad-Load at December 18, 2013 04:24 PM (vHRtU)

209 "There is absolutely no cannibalism in the modern British Navy, and by none, I mean there is a certain amount..."

-M. Python

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 18, 2013 04:24 PM (xm1A1)

210
another nood and nobody told me

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 04:24 PM (Y4TdB)

211  but I need input on what people feel little boys need to be able to explore at ages 6 to 10.

That's just begging for a Harry Reid sock but I can't do it.

But serious suggestion, while I was never a little boy, it's a good age for planting things, killing plants that don't belong, harvesting plants, feeding animals (cleaning up after animals)...and cooking things over open flame at the end of the day.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at December 18, 2013 04:25 PM (hO8IJ)

212 I doubt Phil's worried about making the next payment on his manufactured home in LA. He seems content and unconcerned with the acceptance of GQ's demographic. What ever happened to "say your piece and let the chips fall where they may" ? That philosophy shouldn't be considered quaint, but it is now.

Posted by: mc at December 18, 2013 04:25 PM (lrfmC)

213 Honda Steals The 2013 New York Auto Show With A Vacuum Cleaner Street hookers hardest hit

Posted by: Haywood Jablome at December 18, 2013 04:26 PM (N3Al8)

214 210 another nood and nobody told me Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 08:24 PM (Y4TdB) Another nood up

Posted by: RWC (Vagina Owl from the Future) at December 18, 2013 04:26 PM (Q6HBD)

215

Thanks for the recipe Lauren!

 

 

Posted by: concrete girl at December 18, 2013 04:26 PM (LhAqq)

216 I like the bit where GLAAD lectures on what "true" Christians believe.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:27 PM (ZPrif)

217 The duck guys and the network can work this out somehow. The duck guys hold the high card in this round.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2013 04:28 PM (EWsrI)

218 If teh gays can do this about Duck Dynasty, why can't Christians do it about Maher?

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 04:28 PM (MMC8r)

219 I HIGHLY DOUBT DD CAST WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE ANOTHER SHOW

Posted by: Regular Guy at December 18, 2013 04:29 PM (N3Al8)

220 These Southern  Christians will never learn

Posted by: Anitta Bryant 1st casualty of political correctness at December 18, 2013 04:31 PM (N3Al8)

221 You're welcome, Concrete Girl! Hopefully it translates ok from my mind into someone else's real world!

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2013 04:34 PM (hFL/3)

222 @211  I've got lots of mesquite trees they can pull up or chop down, equipment that they can learn how to plow and plant, a wooded area with a dry or sometimes wet creek running through,  great for playing semi-war games, horses and cows and  alot of patience.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 18, 2013 04:34 PM (AyQ43)

223 Exactly, Mc. He seems like a real man, and is the epitome of "say your piece &let the chips fall." Last interview with him I saw ( the blaze? ) he seemed ready to cut ties with them. The duck crew get peanuts out of that show. The only reason for them to continue it is to stay in the public eye so their stuff sells. Blankets, T-shirts, Chia pets, books, videos, whatever. I guess duck calls too.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 04:35 PM (V6E6P)

224 Ahh, Fiji...

Once a local chief decided he was bored, so he decided he wanted to eat an entire village. And, so, it was done.

Fiji or New Zealand, one or the other, same thing, but pretty sure it was Fiji.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 18, 2013 04:40 PM (80R0X)

225 Are any of the Republican Senators gumming up the works by denying Unanimous Consent to every item of business? No? Then they're not angry at all.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 18, 2013 04:42 PM (QupBk)

226 Fight, fight, fight with me,
Racist?
 Ok where's that white flag?

Posted by: McStain at December 18, 2013 04:43 PM (uUXp6)

227 180 Tell A & E you want MORE gay ass-sex. Preferably ass-rape of minors. Live, no porn. Posted by: President Choad-Load

I can see David Gregory explaining with live demonstrationswhy ass-rape of little boys should be illegal in DC.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 18, 2013 04:45 PM (80R0X)

228 I voted for that turd. He actually scares me now. I think he's as stupid as he is damaged. Cliche? They're all cliches, except for maybe a handful.

Posted by: rrpjr at December 18, 2013 04:48 PM (s/yC1)

229 You have nothing to fear from Barack Obama.

Posted by: John McCain at December 18, 2013 04:49 PM (Y92Nd)

230 One time back in the 90s I went to a folk festival, and there was a group of New Zealand Maoris in traditional costume dancing and singing, etc. The narrator mentioned that their ancestors practiced cannibalism at the time the colonists arrived, "so you might say we all have a little English in us". Later on I met one of the young ladies at a concession stand and we hung out a bit and I got high with her. She spoke perfect English, of course, with a New Zealand accent. What a babe.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2013 04:51 PM (sdi6R)

231 Fags.

Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2013 04:51 PM (MNq6o)

232 The Duck Dynasty guy is right on that one. Homosexuality is an alternative lifestyle for the sake of the species. Most men are more attracted to pussy than assholes; that's just the way it is. There has to be some faulty wiring where you want to poke a turd instead of shoot your load into a hot babe. Not that you're going to hell or anything like that. But really wtf?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 18, 2013 04:55 PM (Y92Nd)

233

Still going here?

 

As I've said in these spaces many times before:  McCain's nickname among staff back in the late 80s was "Psycho"; he's not very smart; he's nasty and weird to the point of suggesting serious psychological issues. 

 

The night he clinched the nomination in 2008 was one of the only nights in my life I literally couldn't sleep (I assumed he would crush the ridiculous, preposterous, degrading farce of an opponent he had in the nobody affirmative action mediocrity from Chicago).  For mostly different reasons, McCain is as unfit for any serious adult job as is that idiot Obama.

 

As for foreigners who formerly like to eat each other ...... Ace, this reminds me of one THE most hilarious senatorial quotes of all time.  Senator Fritz Hollings, he of the amazing stentorian voice and ante-bellum Southern locution (Foghorn Leghorn, but better), was part of an observers delegation to trade talks in Geneva (Hollings representing the "stop all trade" faction, more or less).  Must have been late 80s or early 90s. Fritz was (understandably) upset with the intensive push for yet more concessions to Third World exporters (or something similar), many of which were African countries.

 

So at a press conference, Fritz makes a comment (and here I paraphrase, but closely):  "well, these African leaders all come here, making demands and seeking advantages, but also enjoying all the fine dining and such, instead of staying home and eatin' each other."

 

No shit.  He really said that.  There was a story in the WaPo about it with the quotes.  Fucking hilarious. 

Posted by: non-purist at December 18, 2013 05:05 PM (afQnV)

234

trivia comment to close out the dead thread: rickl, actually, the Maoris were just as much immigrants to New Zealand as the Brits.  NZ historically had no native land mammals (incl. two-legged ones).

 

Maoris would visit, usually seasonally, to use as a fishing base camp. 

 

No indigenous mammals of course means that imported critters wreak havoc on other species now.  Kiwis are endangered not due to habitat destruction but introduction of various varmints - kiwi nests are on the ground, easily accessible to rats or gophers or what have you.  Guess the eggs are tasty - you do the math.

 

So yes NZ was colonized, but had no real human "indigenous" populace to colonize.  You might say the Brits just were the dominant immigrants, vs. the Maori immigrants.  (of course, in truth, same thing for North America and rest of the "new world" - Native Americans aren't native, and the white-eye was just the best ... therefore last .... conquering empire to rise up here .... ask the Paiute about the Lakota for just one of a zillions of examples of how prior to Euro-immigrant ascendance, what is now the US was the scene of nearly non-stop conquest and competition, slavery and empire - but all this is icky factual history so don't tell your typical cretinous "educated" American about it or they might have a nano-second of critical thought and doubt flash across their brains)

 

Posted by: non-purist at December 18, 2013 05:16 PM (afQnV)

235 Happy Campers you are Happy Campers you shall be Or so says Dan Quayle...

Posted by: Haiku Guy at December 18, 2013 05:16 PM (KS80J)

236
Late to the thread.......

During my Army time I worked with the Fijians stationed together in Egypt for a time. To a man, the Fijian soldiers were rock hard muscular, I mean scary hard, like woodpecker lips. Nice folks, professional soldiers, as long as they were sober, and you weren't competing against them in sports. Made the mistake of playing soccer against them once (had a similar experience the one and only time I ever played rugby.......against a team mostly made up of Samoans).

As for the booze, our experience was that Fijian soldiers get really violent when they drink. It was enough of a problem where the NCO club and bars on post banned anyone from the Fijian battalion as an official policy.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2013 05:32 PM (MBqvE)

237 non-purist: According to Wikipedia, the ancestors of the Maoris arrived in NZ in the 1200s, so they were "indigenous" by the time the Europeans got there 400-500 years later. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoris Early European explorers, including Abel Tasman (who arrived in 1642) and Captain James Cook (who first visited in 1769), recorded their impressions of Māori. Initial contact between Māori and Europeans proved problematic, sometimes fatal, with several accounts of Europeans being cannibalised. So the folk group was telling the truth.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2013 05:35 PM (sdi6R)

238
As I've said in these spaces many times before: McCain's nickname among staff back in the late 80s was "Psycho"; he's not very smart; he's nasty and weird to the point of suggesting serious psychological issues.

Posted by: non-purist at December 18, 2013 09:05 PM (afQnV)










Yep. I've long had a pet theory about McCain that he's just an asshole who gets his jollies "sticking it to The Man". Which explains why he was at the bottom of his Annapolis class, always in trouble with the Navy brass during his active service, and is happy to piss on the conservative base now.

I'm absolutely convinced that his bona fide heroism during his POW time had a lot more to do with being a belligerent prick rebelling against the NVA than with a higher sense of honor.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2013 05:42 PM (MBqvE)

239 Old dead thread. Don't care. Voting for Juan McLame is the vote I regret the most. I voted for Sarah.

Posted by: Osoloco at December 18, 2013 05:51 PM (k7WbY)

240 Yep, I voted (and volunteered) for Sarah too. Best vote I ever cast.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2013 05:54 PM (sdi6R)

241 100...so they both are pederasts?:

Posted by: Fijian Cannibal at December 18, 2013 05:55 PM (1jp4v)

242 “They are lovely, gentle people” McCain says of the bat shi5 crazy muzzies, , “even though they used to eat each other."

Posted by: Buffalobob at December 18, 2013 06:54 PM (RZBmV)

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