September 05, 2013
Reality: No They Aren't
— DrewM I guess it depends on the meaning of "moderate".
At congressional hearings this week, while making the case for President Barack Obama's plan for limited military action in Syria, Kerry asserted that the armed opposition to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad "has increasingly become more defined by its moderation, more defined by the breadth of its membership, and more defined by its adherence to some, you know, democratic process and to an all-inclusive, minority-protecting constitution."And the opposition is getting stronger by the day," Kerry told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday.
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A European security official with experience in the region said that extremist rebel factions were so strong and well-organized in the north and west of Syria that they were setting up their own public services and trying to create an Islamic ministate along the Iraqi border.
By contrast, the official said, more moderate rebel factions predominate in the east of Syria and along its southern border with Jordan but have largely devolved into "gangs" whose leaders are more interested in operating local rackets and enriching themselves than in forming a larger alliance that could more effectively oppose Assad's government.
"I've heard that there are moderate groups out there we could, in theory, support," said Joshua Foust, a former U.S. intelligence analyst who now writes about foreign policy.
"But I've heard from those same people and my own contacts within (U.S. intelligence) that the scary people are displacing more and more moderate groups. Basically, the jihadists are setting up governance and community councils while the moderates exhaust themselves doing the heavy fighting," Foust said.
I just hope whoever in the US government is vetting the opposition aren't the same people who vetted the local Benghazi militias that were supposed to be providing security on the night of September 11, 2012.
Meanwhile, the two whip counts as they stand today.
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Posted by: Vic at September 05, 2013 08:22 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: [/i][/s][/b]akula51 at September 05, 2013 08:22 AM (pUGYz)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 05, 2013 08:23 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Y-not at September 05, 2013 08:24 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Dan at September 05, 2013 08:24 AM (m3gf3)
Posted by: Juan McCain Moderate Major Asshole at September 05, 2013 08:24 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at September 05, 2013 08:25 AM (evdj2)
I know it's way too early for an OT, but y'all ahve got to check out Obama's Historic Death Stare (tm) when he greeted Putin this morning. It's the stuff of hilarity.
TWITCHY: http://tiny.cc/374x2w
Even when he's trying to look tough he looks like a douche. ESPECIALLY when he's trying to look tough.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 05, 2013 08:25 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 08:25 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 05, 2013 12:24 PM (ZPrif)
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*GolfClap*
Posted by: Nighthawk at September 05, 2013 08:26 AM (OtQXp)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 05, 2013 12:24 PM (ZPrif)
Massacre, rape, pillage and destroy until any and all survivors paid him tribute?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 05, 2013 08:26 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: joncelli at September 05, 2013 08:27 AM (RD7QR)
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In a sane nation, Boama would be running commercials for his ambulance-chaser law practice on late-night TV during reruns of "The King of Queens." (At the best. He might very well be chooming it up and dreaming of someday making a big score.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2013 08:27 AM (BDU/a)
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 05, 2013 08:28 AM (Zswg6)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 05, 2013 08:28 AM (p7ogc)
Twitchy.com
"Obama calls Kerry a liar usat.ly/1a9c9XR—
USA TODAY's The Oval (@TheOval) September 05, 2013"
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 05, 2013 08:29 AM (WLpmE)
Posted by: kathysaysso at September 05, 2013 08:29 AM (6H6o8)
Posted by: t-bird at September 05, 2013 08:29 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at September 05, 2013 08:29 AM (kbOju)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 05, 2013 08:30 AM (p7ogc)
Posted by: Secretary of State Kerry at September 05, 2013 08:30 AM (659DL)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 05, 2013 08:30 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 05, 2013 08:31 AM (p7ogc)
Posted by: Mallfly at September 05, 2013 08:31 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: blaster at September 05, 2013 08:31 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 05, 2013 08:32 AM (p7ogc)
Posted by: buzzion at September 05, 2013 08:32 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: tasker at September 05, 2013 08:33 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Necromonger Emperor Zhylaw at September 05, 2013 08:33 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: kathysaysso at September 05, 2013 12:30 PM (6H6o
...like a retarded stoner on ludes.
(Completed for accuracy.)
Posted by: joncelli at September 05, 2013 08:33 AM (RD7QR)
TWITCHY: http://tiny.cc/374x2w
Even when he's trying to look tough he looks like a douche. ESPECIALLY when he's trying to look tough.
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Any minute he will burst out in tears.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 05, 2013 08:34 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 05, 2013 08:34 AM (/Crba)
Of course they are moderates. All they want is affordable health care, a greener environment, and to behead those who disagree with them. Sheesh, it is almost impossible to believe that there are otherwise intelligent people who listen to this drivel and nod their heads in agreement. If it was not for the fact that my kids are going to have to grow up and either live with the huge mess these people are creating or try and work and clean it up, I would just sit back and munch popcorn and watch the Funniest Ending of a Civilization Ever.
Posted by: DaveinNC at September 05, 2013 08:35 AM (boNGU)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at September 05, 2013 08:35 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 08:35 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: t-bird at September 05, 2013 08:36 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: kathysaysso at September 05, 2013 08:36 AM (6H6o8)
"But I've heard from those same people and my own contacts within (U.S. intelligence) that the scary people are displacing more and more moderate groups."
So, if we had acted quickly, with arms and support, we might have given the moderate groups a leg up. But that train has left the station: I guess that's what passes for smart diplomacy these days.
But I shouldn't be surprised. After all, the JEF launched his political career in the home of an unrepentant terrorist. Draw your own conclusions.
Posted by: Brown Line at September 05, 2013 08:37 AM (VrNoa)
Obama's Historic Death Stare (tm) when he greeted Putin this morning.
It's the stuff of hilarity.
Putin is looking back at him, thinking, "I can kill him 27 different ways in this position."
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 08:37 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Fair Tax 4 evah at September 05, 2013 08:38 AM (KKFr2)
Posted by: Bufalobob at September 05, 2013 08:38 AM (1szMf)
Posted by: Islamic Moderate at September 05, 2013 08:38 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: t-bird at September 05, 2013 08:39 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 08:39 AM (jE38p)
A better comparison is who America thought they were backing in Egypt during the run up and fall of Mubarak.
Posted by: Nick Shaw at September 05, 2013 08:39 AM (9Xn+t)
Your link to Obama's steely stare seems to actually go to a bike ride by Castle Neuavo in Naples.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 05, 2013 08:39 AM (dEC8z)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 05, 2013 08:39 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at September 05, 2013 08:39 AM (qHqfW)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 05, 2013 08:39 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: pat at September 05, 2013 08:39 AM (KCg4m)
Answer: Bush did it too.
Posted by: The Lurking Left at September 05, 2013 08:40 AM (YmPwQ)
and more defined by its adherence to some, you know, democratic process and to an all-inclusive, minority-protecting constitution.
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Heck, i hear powdered wigs are even back in fashion.
Posted by: John Kerry at September 05, 2013 08:40 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: blaster at September 05, 2013 08:40 AM (W6bkf)
Same here, but if you just load up Twitchy it's titled "Senor Slouchy, I Presume".
Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2013 08:40 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: tasker at September 05, 2013 08:41 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: t-bird at September 05, 2013 08:41 AM (FcR7P)
And believers never really see the whole picture or have a handle on simple human nature.
Posted by: Nick Shaw at September 05, 2013 08:41 AM (9Xn+t)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 05, 2013 08:41 AM (32Ze2)
In the House 3 Republican and 5 Democratic women are currently on record or leaning NO.
No prominent women politicians at all are on record as against this action.
What does the fact that an awful lot of women jumped on the Bomb Bandwagon as soon as Obama yelled "All aboard" have to say about the idea that the world would soon be a peaceful utopia if only women were put in charge of everything?
Posted by: Rocks at September 05, 2013 08:41 AM (qzWDd)
Posted by: blaster at September 05, 2013 08:42 AM (W6bkf)
You can tell Kerry wants to be anywhere but on Capitol Hill, lying to Congress and the American people. Kerry signed up for Sec State because he saw the reports of what went on during Clinton's reign - sexual dalliances, etc. He just wanted some of that action. And to travel to exotic places and windsurf. With his hooker, naturally.
Now, he's just got to lie to Congress and the American people for his boss.
Couldn't have happened to a better douchebag.
Posted by: MacGruber at September 05, 2013 08:42 AM (S+el1)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at September 05, 2013 12:26 PM (4df7R)
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OK, so no gas attacks. The man has standards.
Posted by: John Kerry at September 05, 2013 08:42 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 05, 2013 08:42 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 05, 2013 12:28 PM (Zswg6)
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We only stone the girls for rape-rape
Posted by: moderate Jihadi at September 05, 2013 08:43 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 05, 2013 08:43 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: tasker at September 05, 2013 08:43 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Brother Cavil misses Crow and Servo at September 05, 2013 08:43 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: t-bird at September 05, 2013 08:43 AM (FcR7P)
As attractive as the bubble theory is, I'm gonna go with straight up lying this time.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 05, 2013 08:43 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 05, 2013 08:44 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: redguy at September 05, 2013 08:44 AM (oqvI4)
Posted by: shredded chi at September 05, 2013 08:44 AM (UnRK+)
Posted by: Secretary of State Kerry at September 05, 2013 12:30 PM (659DL)
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and rape them before they kill them
Posted by: moderate Jihadi at September 05, 2013 08:44 AM (SO2Q8)
Baby steps. The road to moderation begins with a single step.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 05, 2013 08:45 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Purp at September 05, 2013 12:42 PM (9MLX+)
Well, when it comes to gays I think they support retroactive abortion.
Posted by: joncelli at September 05, 2013 08:46 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Lucky Pierre at September 05, 2013 08:46 AM (5fSr7)
Yup you can tell by how Lurch stamps his hoof for emphasis...when he is just believing an error he brays.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 05, 2013 08:46 AM (9jfyN)
This relic McCain and his Nancy-boy-asshole buddy- Lindsey are making a fucking maniac out of me.
Posted by: Paul Anka at September 05, 2013 08:46 AM (jvd3N)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at September 05, 2013 08:46 AM (1hM1d)
The Kos Kidz must be dead set against it
Posted by: kbdabear at September 05, 2013 08:47 AM (/9IC1)
Posted by: wrg500 at September 05, 2013 08:47 AM (kl3xJ)
find me an African Christian who will kill the Muzzy Wuzzy's and I'll find you central casting's next Bond Villain
Posted by: sven10077 at September 05, 2013 08:47 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Rocks at September 05, 2013 08:47 AM (qzWDd)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at September 05, 2013 12:25 PM (4df7R)
Look like a pre-hit flinch to me.
Posted by: Heralder at September 05, 2013 08:48 AM (+xmn4)
Good news! We're not all completely f***** yet.
Posted by: RioBravo at September 05, 2013 12:47 PM (eEfYn)
Eh, I'd need some evidence to be certain.
Posted by: joncelli at September 05, 2013 08:48 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at September 05, 2013 08:48 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: tasker at September 05, 2013 08:48 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 05, 2013 08:48 AM (nTgAI)
What does the fact that an awful lot of women jumped on the Bomb Bandwagon as soon as Obama yelled "All aboard" have to say about the idea that the world would soon be a peaceful utopia if only women were put in charge of everything?
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It hasn't been many weeks ago that I read yet another feminist screed about how if chicks ruled the world there would be no war because they know how to talk things out instead of getting into dick measuring contests.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 05, 2013 08:49 AM (XUKZU)
a wedge dear man...a wedge and a ruthless GOP that gave three fucks about our economic liberty and politics would be hammering the cocksuckers...
instead we have Juan "Bombs of Monty Zuma" McQueeg and Johnny "shut the barn door trigger's gone" Boehner....
Posted by: sven10077 at September 05, 2013 08:49 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: moderate Jihadi at September 05, 2013 12:44 PM (SO2Q
BEFORE!!! Nobody said we could do it before.
Posted by: Moderate moderate soldier of allah snackbar at September 05, 2013 08:49 AM (MnSla)
91The stare that launched a thousand drones.
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You know i get to charge royalties for that look
Posted by: Clint Eastwood at September 05, 2013 08:50 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Brother Cavil misses Crow and Servo at September 05, 2013 08:50 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: joncelli at September 05, 2013 08:50 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 05, 2013 08:50 AM (ZPrif)
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Let's not go jumping to any wild conclusions just yet.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 05, 2013 08:51 AM (XUKZU)
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Let's not go jumping to any wild conclusions just yet.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 05, 2013 08:51 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Brother Cavil misses Crow and Servo at September 05, 2013 08:51 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Brother Cavil misses Crow and Servo at September 05, 2013 08:51 AM (naUcP)
Putin ought to give TFG one of those Russian "dolls" that you can put inside one another, until you get to a tiny little doll on the most interior one. The biggest, outside doll would be TFG and the tiniest one on the inside would be Valerie Jarrett.
"See, comrade! I know who is really in charge!"
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 08:51 AM (GQ8sn)
Putin ought to give TFG one of those Russian "dolls" that you can put inside one another, until you get to a tiny little doll on the most interior one. The biggest, outside doll would be TFG and the tiniest one on the inside would be Valerie Jarrett.
"See, comrade! I know who is really in charge!"
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 08:51 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: joncelli at September 05, 2013 08:51 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: joncelli at September 05, 2013 08:51 AM (RD7QR)
"I'm not 100 percent a pacifist"
But he is 100 percent a radical muslim
Posted by: kbdabear at September 05, 2013 08:52 AM (/9IC1)
"I'm not 100 percent a pacifist"
But he is 100 percent a radical muslim
Posted by: kbdabear at September 05, 2013 08:52 AM (/9IC1)
Well before this incident they've predicted that extremists have control of large swaths of the country alleged to be under "rebel" control.
The terrorist organizations have very well seasoned fighter whose experience and brutality has helped with their gains. They also have significant influence over other indigenous fighters who adopt their methods and tactics.
Given that assessment, this was an easy "bull" call.
Ultimately, we have very little idea who these people are. See Libya or perhaps who this administration supported in Egypt. Hint on the latter- they are now mostly in prison.
Posted by: Marcus at September 05, 2013 08:52 AM (GGCsk)
Well before this incident they've predicted that extremists have control of large swaths of the country alleged to be under "rebel" control.
The terrorist organizations have very well seasoned fighter whose experience and brutality has helped with their gains. They also have significant influence over other indigenous fighters who adopt their methods and tactics.
Given that assessment, this was an easy "bull" call.
Ultimately, we have very little idea who these people are. See Libya or perhaps who this administration supported in Egypt. Hint on the latter- they are now mostly in prison.
Posted by: Marcus at September 05, 2013 08:52 AM (GGCsk)
Limbaugh said this but I've been thinking it this morning.
It's sad when I believe a former KGB officer over the US government. WTF happened to my country?
Posted by: Timon at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (kTI1S)
Limbaugh said this but I've been thinking it this morning.
It's sad when I believe a former KGB officer over the US government. WTF happened to my country?
Posted by: Timon at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (kTI1S)
Posted by: BornLib at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (zpNwC)
Posted by: BornLib at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (zpNwC)
laughing. The only way Obumbles could have a chance of saving face would
be to kick him in the nuts. Putin would probably kick his ass after
that though
Putin ought to give TFG one of those Russian "dolls" that you can put inside one another, until you get to a tiny little doll on the most interior one. The biggest, outside doll would be TFG and the tiniest one on the inside would be Valerie Jarrett.
"See, comrade! I know who is really in charge!"
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 12:51 PM (GQ8sn)
Thats some funny shit.
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (nTgAI)
laughing. The only way Obumbles could have a chance of saving face would
be to kick him in the nuts. Putin would probably kick his ass after
that though
Putin ought to give TFG one of those Russian "dolls" that you can put inside one another, until you get to a tiny little doll on the most interior one. The biggest, outside doll would be TFG and the tiniest one on the inside would be Valerie Jarrett.
"See, comrade! I know who is really in charge!"
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 12:51 PM (GQ8sn)
Thats some funny shit.
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: joncelli at September 05, 2013 12:50 PM (RD7QR)
Yep, they have him pegged as a thin skin Narcissist.
Posted by: wrg500 at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (jShXB)
Posted by: joncelli at September 05, 2013 12:50 PM (RD7QR)
Yep, they have him pegged as a thin skin Narcissist.
Posted by: wrg500 at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (jShXB)
Posted by: t-bird at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: t-bird at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: joncelli at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: joncelli at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 12:51 PM (GQ8sn)
Thats some funny shit.
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 05, 2013 12:53 PM (nTgAI)
Would Bo go inside Obama or Reggie
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 12:51 PM (GQ8sn)
Thats some funny shit.
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 05, 2013 12:53 PM (nTgAI)
Would Bo go inside Obama or Reggie
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 05, 2013 08:53 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 08:54 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: Heralder at September 05, 2013 08:54 AM (+xmn4)
It hasn't been many weeks ago that I read yet another feminist screed about how if chicks ruled the world there would be no war because they know how to talk things out instead of getting into dick measuring contests.
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Yeah, cause women are never bitter and petty. The UN would be just like Real Housewives.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at September 05, 2013 08:54 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 05, 2013 08:54 AM (ZPrif)
I guess Hollywood hasn't made its mind up either
Posted by: kbdabear at September 05, 2013 08:55 AM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 08:55 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: BornLib at September 05, 2013 08:56 AM (zpNwC)
I look forward to glowing report in the NYT praising her for her stalwart stand against the war mongers. I wonder what kind of sneakers she wore?
Posted by: Rocks at September 05, 2013 08:56 AM (qzWDd)
Are you effing kidding me???
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 08:56 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 05, 2013 08:56 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 08:56 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 05, 2013 08:57 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 05, 2013 08:57 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: fawkes at September 05, 2013 08:57 AM (Djwm9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 12:54 PM (jE38p)
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As an expert, i can say no with high confidence.
Posted by: John Boehner at September 05, 2013 08:57 AM (SO2Q8)
Putin ought to give TFG one of those Russian "dolls" that you can put inside one another, until you get to a tiny little doll on the most interior one. The biggest, outside doll would be TFG and the tiniest one on the inside would be Valerie Jarrett.
"See, comrade! I know who is really in charge!"
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 12:51 PM (GQ8sn)
<p>That would be awesome!</p>
Posted by: baldilocks at September 05, 2013 08:57 AM (Tnlh/)
Yeah, sad, but I trust Putin more than I trust Obama.
And I think Putin is actually less hostile to me and my family.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 05, 2013 12:54 PM (ZPrif)
-- I agree and it really distresses me
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 05, 2013 08:58 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 05, 2013 08:58 AM (j+lCW)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 05, 2013 08:58 AM (9MLX+)
Because, Moderate.
Posted by: Hannibal at September 05, 2013 08:58 AM (QM5S2)
Oooh! Let me know before you drop so I can get in my "FIRST!!!".
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 08:59 AM (GQ8sn)
Putin probably is less hostile to the USA than Obama is, too.
Posted by: Methos at September 05, 2013 08:59 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 05, 2013 09:00 AM (j+lCW)
Posted by: Penfold at September 05, 2013 09:00 AM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 05, 2013 09:00 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 05, 2013 09:00 AM (yKTI2)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 05, 2013 09:01 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: tasker at September 05, 2013 09:01 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Andy at September 05, 2013 09:02 AM (qZRAa)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 05, 2013 09:02 AM (j+lCW)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 05, 2013 09:03 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 01:01 PM (GQ8sn)
Creates a new paragraph. That no longer happens automatically when I'm on my laptop.
Posted by: baldilocks at September 05, 2013 09:03 AM (Tnlh/)
I am actually. I want you humbled...and at worst want Alaska back assholes you don't use her effectively but I actually LIKE your people...mostly....
lose some weight, work out more and make better porn and we're golden....
TFG wants you "fundamentally transformed" whatever fuck that is and frankly not to be identifiable as nation of Georgi Washington within 20 years...
What the fuck did Wampum Thrower ever do to Comrade Soetoro?
Posted by: Vlad Putin for Manpower of RUS at September 05, 2013 09:03 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 09:03 AM (jE38p)
We must have the same friends.
I have good buddy whose family came to the US as refugees from Russia. Now, my friend works for (*gasp*) Halliburton and they needed someone at their Russian office so they set him up there. Now he's bought a house and is trying to settle there with his family.
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 09:04 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 05, 2013 12:54 PM (ZPrif)
Add me to those above who also feel this way...
Posted by: Timon at September 05, 2013 09:05 AM (kTI1S)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 05, 2013 09:05 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: tasker at September 05, 2013 09:05 AM (r2PLg)
That's a great idea. These dolls "(we used to call them "in-and- ins" are great.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 05, 2013 01:02 PM (j+lCW)
Have a set bought in East Berlin circa 1897.
Posted by: baldilocks at September 05, 2013 09:05 AM (Tnlh/)
Creates a new paragraph. That no longer happens automatically when I'm on my laptop.
Posted by: baldilocks at September 05, 2013 01:03 PM (Tnlh/) /i]
what's the browser you're using?
Posted by: buzzion at September 05, 2013 09:05 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 01:03 PM (jE38p)
__________________
I agree. I think his father never fully left the Soviet Union if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 05, 2013 09:05 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: RobM1981 at September 05, 2013 09:06 AM (3DPvT)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:07 AM (9XBK2)
@eliselabottcnn: White House pulling out all stops w/ website to build case for action in #Syria: http://wh.gov/l4nqk
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 05, 2013 09:07 AM (WLpmE)
Posted by: buzzion at September 05, 2013 01:05 PM (LI48c)
Firefox
Posted by: baldilocks at September 05, 2013 09:08 AM (Tnlh/)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 05, 2013 09:08 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: tasker at September 05, 2013 09:08 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: ahem at September 05, 2013 09:08 AM (lKGzI)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 05, 2013 01:08 PM (Tnlh/)
Ah I don't have a solution to get that to actually get paragraph breaks.
Posted by: buzzion at September 05, 2013 09:09 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Butternut at September 05, 2013 09:09 AM (+8yte)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 05, 2013 01:08 PM (32Ze2)
That's because they have standards.
Posted by: buzzion at September 05, 2013 09:09 AM (LI48c)
Oppose these liars - let your congressman know that you are against this, big time.
My congresscritter is Jim Moron opps I mean Jim Moran. Stated this morning on radio that call and emails coming to his office is 100% percent against the attack but is voting for it anyways because it's the right thing to do. geez....
Posted by: wrg500 at September 05, 2013 09:10 AM (jShXB)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:10 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 05, 2013 01:08 PM (32Ze2)
Yes they do, but in Russia KABOOM eats you
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 05, 2013 09:10 AM (nTgAI)
Lindsay's Liberals
Wasserman's Whigs
Cantor's Coptics
Boehner's Baptists
Durbin's Democrats
Pelosi's Peacniks
Nothing to worry about.
Posted by: dananjcon at September 05, 2013 09:10 AM (jvd3N)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 05, 2013 09:10 AM (/Crba)
Yeah, sad, but I trust Putin more than I trust Obama.
And I think Putin is actually less hostile to me and my family.Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 05, 2013 12:54 PM (ZPrif) -- I agree and it really distresses me
I agree and I really wish I spoke Russian and had a passport.
Posted by: Lynne at September 05, 2013 09:10 AM (+Uv5V)
we do not....safety reasons comrade...
we are people who gave world Chernobyl...what the fuck does that tell you comrade?
Posted by: Vlad Putin for Manpower of RUS at September 05, 2013 09:11 AM (9jfyN)
/s/
Anti-war Leftists All Gung-ho for Obama's Second War.
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 05, 2013 09:11 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 05, 2013 09:11 AM (yKTI2)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 05, 2013 09:11 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 05, 2013 09:12 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 09:12 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 05, 2013 01:04 PM
One of the cob-loggers has assured us that new blog software is Two Weeks Away!
Posted by: MrScribbler at September 05, 2013 09:12 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: tasker at September 05, 2013 09:12 AM (r2PLg)
so there I am waiting on Jugeared Dumbass in St Pete...and this "webzone" goes up from Susan "by far the lesser" Rice...
what the fuck?
Is this International fucking Politics or damned Teen Beat comrade?
Posted by: Vlad Putin for Manpower of RUS at September 05, 2013 09:13 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Brother Cavil misses Crow and Servo at September 05, 2013 09:13 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: jakeman at September 05, 2013 09:13 AM (GXKTh)
Its still difficult to emigrate there for any extended period and setup a business. Given their population trends, I'd expect they'll get around to liberalizing that eventually.
Their tax system reforms have been impressive so far.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 05, 2013 09:13 AM (9MLX+)
Why does Brit Hume think it is so important to do something in Syria?
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 05, 2013 09:13 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: LaQuisha Jeantell Largess' at September 05, 2013 09:13 AM (90aTA)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:13 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 05, 2013 09:13 AM (JNUY4)
Posted by: tasker at September 05, 2013 09:13 AM (r2PLg)
Means that McCain feels there's enough yes votes to let Rubio vote no to satisfy a FL electorate that doesn't want this war
Strangely, Schmuckie Schumer is on the fence on this one. Wall Street must be having doubts
Posted by: kbdabear at September 05, 2013 09:14 AM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 05, 2013 01:12 PM (/Crba)
He was afraid that the bombs would poke a whole and it would sink.
Posted by: wrg500 at September 05, 2013 09:14 AM (L9Mr/)
Posted by: Beto at September 05, 2013 09:14 AM (VWfCN)
/s/
Anti-war Leftists All Gung-ho for Obama's Second War.
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 05, 2013 09:14 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 09:14 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: Dan at September 05, 2013 12:24 PM (m3gf3)
You're talking about an ideal world, one based on reason, fact, evidence, and the rule of law. Unfortunately, we live in the real world, so let's stay in the real world and play it out, game the consequences and ramifications of that course of action--impeachment, I mean. Impeaching the first black President would tear the country apart to no good purpose, especially since the Senate would never vote to convict. President Obama is, for all intents and purposes, impervious to any constitutional remedy. He can overreach all he likes, do whatever he likes, and do it all without consequence. We've seen it.
My guess? The House will vote against Syrian intervention and a poison gas attack in Syria will immediately follow. Someone very badly wants us engaged there--who knows who? and another gas attack will almost certainly sway the House to change its mind.
The whole thing is a mess. Recommended viewing: http://tinyurl.com/lwztryo
Posted by: troyriser at September 05, 2013 09:15 AM (O66NZ)
Posted by: LaQuisha Jeantell Largess' at September 05, 2013 09:15 AM (IkHXL)
Good. What always kills me about these things is that he's a Creative Writing Professor. Why doesn't anyone scream about the money being wasted paying these guys to discuss a subject unrelated to their subject IN class? Are there a bunch of Math professors spending hours bitching about the degradation of fashion trends in their classes?
Posted by: Rocks at September 05, 2013 09:15 AM (qzWDd)
Posted by: sweet...ish at September 05, 2013 01:14 PM (bj+Nc)
-- Just don't say their name three times
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 05, 2013 09:15 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: RobM1981 at September 05, 2013 09:16 AM (3DPvT)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:16 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: jwb7605 [i](L.I.B.)[/i][/u][/b] at September 05, 2013 09:16 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Father Fyodor at September 05, 2013 09:16 AM (/Crba)
Interesting theory and it sounds plausible. We'll have to wait and see.
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 09:17 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Beto at September 05, 2013 01:14 PM (VWfCN)
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Ok I admit that I am a little slow on the uptake
Please explain
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 05, 2013 09:17 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 09:18 AM (jE38p)
His basic argument that I've seen is that America's President has to be credible.
Which I get.
But that's not what the electorate chose, so here we are.
Posted by: Methos at September 05, 2013 09:18 AM (hO9ad)
Well, the Turks and Saudis would be against the planned pipline from Iran for obvious business reasons.
Funny how all this shit started coming to a head a couple years ago about when that pipeline deal was announced, ain't it...just saying.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 05, 2013 09:18 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Soona at September 05, 2013 09:18 AM (3Mz5/)
Missiles tend to kill people and make Big Smoky Holes in the ground, you know. Presumably, anyone with military experience would aim them at an actual target, and Bad Things would happen to the enemy as a result.
I admit, I can see some benefit in making Syria into a big sheet of glass, but just causing loud noises and wasting a lot of taxpayer money (again) seems of limited value....
Posted by: MrScribbler at September 05, 2013 09:18 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: Henry the K at September 05, 2013 09:19 AM (Xv7f/)
Yeah, I made like $250 on him during that hearing the other day.
Posted by: Juan McStain at September 05, 2013 09:19 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 05, 2013 09:19 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Derek Zoolander at September 05, 2013 09:19 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 05, 2013 09:20 AM (/Crba)
At G20 summit, world leaders pressure Obama not to launch military strikes in Syria. 'There is no military solution to the Syrian conflict,' EU leader states
obama really screwed the pooch on this one:
A) he never should have gone to Congress for "permission" or approval?
B) he never should have gone to the G-20 in Russia with out having taken action.
guy must be a shitty poker player
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 01:18 PM (jE38p)
Yeah, he is in a hole and keeps shoveling... people can smell blood in the water now
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 05, 2013 09:20 AM (nTgAI)
Do. Something.
Posted by: Methos at September 05, 2013 09:21 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 09:21 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 01:13 PM (9XBK2)
__________________
THIS. It is worse in Poland and there are only about 10 to 20 thousand left.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 05, 2013 09:21 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:21 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: jwb7605 [i](L.I.B.)[/i][/u][/b] at September 05, 2013 09:22 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 01:21 PM (9XBK2)
Fact: Kirsten Powers once dated Anthony Weiner.
Posted by: EC at September 05, 2013 09:22 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 05, 2013 09:23 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Beto at September 05, 2013 09:23 AM (VWfCN)
Seattle hipsters not moved by Lurch's "evidence" ?
Posted by: kbdabear at September 05, 2013 09:23 AM (/9IC1)
Obama saving face *will* stabilize the world.
Posted by: There is no other Prophet but Obama at September 05, 2013 09:23 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: PJ at September 05, 2013 09:25 AM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 05, 2013 01:23 PM (g1DWB)
___________________
I didn't hear this. Really? You are talking about Israel's Leviathin fields in the Med right?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 05, 2013 09:25 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 05, 2013 09:25 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 05, 2013 09:25 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 05, 2013 09:26 AM (Tnlh/)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:26 AM (9XBK2)
why it's almost as if Obama was hired by the world to fuck us out of the lead in shale and NG development...
NAH crazy talk...
fucking domestic communist cocksuckers
Posted by: Vlad Putin for Manpower of RUS at September 05, 2013 09:27 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 09:28 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 05, 2013 09:28 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 09:28 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 05, 2013 09:29 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 01:26 PM (9XBK2)
Yea, Qud Forces and some Republican Guard.
Posted by: wrg500 at September 05, 2013 09:29 AM (L9Mr/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 01:18 PM (jE38p)
Barack is a great poker....oh, never mind
Posted by: Reggie "Body Man" Love at September 05, 2013 09:29 AM (kTI1S)
Of course. If Europe becomes addicted to Israeli gas, they'll get more favorable political treatment. If they got an leg breaking enforcer like Gazprom on their side, all the better.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 05, 2013 09:30 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:31 AM (9XBK2)
This is so easy.
Normally we should entertain the thought of going after Assad because he's a Bad Man.
BUT, his opposition is made up of Bad Men.
BUT MOSTLY, Obama is a Bad Man. He has done all the things Assad would do to his political opposition given the constraints he works under. And if he had the power Assad has he would do as much - as a friend of someone who thought that 25 Million Americans would necessarily die in order to bring about their visionary utopian society.
The answer is NO INTERVENTION.
Posted by: Bill Gates without Glasses at September 05, 2013 09:31 AM (dSE0q)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 05, 2013 09:31 AM (g1DWB)
And eating people's organs. Can't forget that.
No more certain sign of moderation than eating organs.
It's in the Big Book Of Moderate Secularist Opposition.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 05, 2013 09:31 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 09:32 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 05, 2013 01:25 PM (nTgAI)
I wonder if Putin squeezed Barry's girl-like hand hard enough for him to wince.
Posted by: Reggie at September 05, 2013 09:32 AM (kTI1S)
Posted by: Brother Cavil misses Crow and Servo at September 05, 2013 09:33 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:33 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 01:28 PM (jE38p)
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Israel and, I'm sure numerous other nations, are aligning with Russia because Russia is turning out to be more dependable than the US now. You'll start seeing (actually, we are seeing) numerous nations doing business with Putin now. He's the strong horse.
Thanks and fuck you, 52%ers.
Posted by: Soona at September 05, 2013 09:34 AM (3Mz5/)
'Rons! Caption this, will ya? Or is such a request Ray's sis?
So many people are mistaken for Ray's sis these days. Why?
Posted by: ktnxbai, now with tin foil lace wigs at September 05, 2013 09:34 AM (5aT64)
Posted by: Mohammed Morsi, Prison Name "Eminem" or "Shady" at September 05, 2013 09:34 AM (kyAWi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 09:34 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe
Convenience really.
Posted by: Anthony Weiner [/i] [/b] at September 05, 2013 09:34 AM (WLpmE)
I wonder if Putin squeezed Barry's girl-like hand hard enough for him to wince.
My 16 yr old daughter could do that. Maybe even my 5 yr old niece.
Posted by: wrg500 at September 05, 2013 09:35 AM (kPeSM)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 09:35 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:36 AM (9XBK2)
Your welcome....at least we get to keep tampons and professional women out of binders or something!
//L Dunham reporting
Posted by: 52%ers at September 05, 2013 09:36 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 09:37 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 01:33 PM (9XBK2)
We should be arming both sides. Then bomb the side that starts winning till things are even again then arm both sides again. Repeat as needed.
Posted by: wrg500 at September 05, 2013 09:37 AM (L9Mr/)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 05, 2013 09:37 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 05, 2013 09:37 AM (/Crba)
Putin is a ruthless businessman....
I can trust and build my life around his psychological matrix easier than a guy who won't share his grades and is the "Colonial Avenger" no offense and considering TFG has about 15 million evangelicals in his cult HERE in his pocket I trust Putin more....
Posted by: 52%ers at September 05, 2013 09:38 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 09:39 AM (jE38p)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:39 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2013 01:37 PM (jE38p)
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The Chinese moved in as soon as Dear Leader stopped deep-water drilling.
Posted by: Soona at September 05, 2013 09:40 AM (3Mz5/)
PetroBas actually.....
Honk if you'd like to know how to get a 4 billion dollar kickstarter from a nation paying 3 plus bucks a gallon to develop Petrol capacity in Brazil!
Posted by: G Soros, Bond Villain at September 05, 2013 09:40 AM (9jfyN)
At this point the constant in the foreign policy failures is not Bush, it's Obama.
Having no forces in Iraq to lean on the Syrians: OBAMA FAIL
Having Libya go to the Islamists along with the deaths of four persons: OBAMA FAIL.
Having the UN and the UK nix action in Syria: OBAMA FAIL
Having Egypt turn into a confused state on the brink of civil war: OBAMA FAIL
The Russian Reset and the pullback of missile defense from the Czechs and the Poles: OBAMA FAIL
On Deck for OBAMA FAIL in 2014: OBAMA's announced withdrawal from "the place that Bush took his eye off the ball", Afghanistan.
Obama is a walking sack of feces and FAIL without the sack.
Posted by: Bill Gates without Glasses at September 05, 2013 09:40 AM (dSE0q)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:42 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: gracepmc at September 05, 2013 09:43 AM (rznx3)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:43 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 05, 2013 09:43 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 05, 2013 09:45 AM (yKTI2)
I think the new F$A America is actually fucked....voluntarily....
Look for the NEA union label
Posted by: G Soros, Bond Villain at September 05, 2013 09:45 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:46 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at September 05, 2013 09:47 AM (d4igJ)
Posted by: steevy at September 05, 2013 09:51 AM (9XBK2)
185 Dont suppose Dear Leader is anxious to blow up weapons caches that maybe could be traced?
The moral indignation seems a little too convenient for a bunch of relativists.
It is about Benghazi
Spot On. I was wondering who has Kaddafi's shoulder fire ground to air missiles we don't hear any talk about. Are they in Sinai or Europe?
Posted by: Paul Krugman at September 05, 2013 09:53 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: kathysaysso at September 05, 2013 12:30 PM (6H6o
Obama speaks French, too. Here's his favorite saying: "L'État, c'est moi."
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at September 05, 2013 09:53 AM (/lWM8)
OPERATION "AM I WRONG"
Walter Sobchak: What the fuck are you talking about? The Jihadis are not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, Jihadi is not the preferred nomenclature. Moderate Muslim, please.
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 05, 2013 09:53 AM (qwK3S)
Imagine Joe the Plumber as President
Imagine a Rodeo Clown as Secretary of State
Its easy if you try
Imagine all the people
That could run circles around this putz
Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at September 05, 2013 09:57 AM (oDCMR)
[br/]
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Sometimes that works (three of them preceed this).
Fingers are crossed...
Posted by: [/i][/s][/b]akula51 at September 05, 2013 10:03 AM (pUGYz)
Something is behaving differently.
Posted by: [/i][/s][/b]akula51 at September 05, 2013 10:03 AM (pUGYz)
Either would be a huge mistake. We want an ongoing war of attrition because most of the fighters on both sides are our enemies, the Iran-linked Shi'ites fighting with Assad's Alawite minority against the Sunni al Qaeda types. But if we do nothing, Assad will gain the upper hand before long - using more WMD if he needs to.
We can hurt Assad and degrade his strength, and possibly also take out the main production and storage facilities for his WMD, without deposing him, without a major invasion (spotter teams may need to be on the ground to paint targets). That's what we should do, and Obama doesn't need some major blank check AUMF to do it.
Hard to believe so many "conservatives" are ready to march with Code Pink.
Posted by: Adjoran at September 05, 2013 12:26 PM (473jB)
Posted by: Chelsea Kerry at September 05, 2013 01:00 PM (0axsw)
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