December 16, 2013
— Ace Very good piece knocking Robert Reich's recent article (meet the old article, same as the old article) decrying a tax code which permits the wealthy tax deductions for charitable donations.
It's worth reading in full. But here's some of it. I'm digesting the key points made for people who want a shorter version, but seriously, just read the whole thing.
Professor Reich, a ward of the taxpayers of California (at $246,199.84 per annum) and a federal ward before that, is persistently unhappy about how other people use their money, and he scoffs that America’s rich philanthropists are phony and self-serving, investing too much in opera and ballet and fancy colleges, and too little in feeding the hungry and housing the homeless. He particularly resents the fact that our tax code encourages such giving, with deductions that reduced federal revenue by some $39 billion last year — federal revenue that could have gone toward employing men such as Robert Reich.
Reich is very upset that the lion's share of the $39 billion in tax deductions go to the wealthy. But who else would they go to? The wealthy give away larger sums of money.
While he notes the $39 billion in tax deductions, he doesn't tell the reader how much they give away to get that $39 billion in tax deductions: $316 billion.
Our innumerate class warriors dismiss philanthropy as a complicated tax dodge for the rich, but in fact tax deductions amount to about 12 percent of total charitable donations, meaning that our wily robber barons have figured out a way of beating the taxman by . . . giving away far more money than they receive in related tax benefits. Even if Professor Reich got his way on tax rates and they went up to 90 percent at the top, you still donÂ’t come out ahead by giving away money.
He next attacks Reich's claim that too much of this charitable giving is to tony cultural charities -- orchestras, ballets, theaters, and other such cult artifacts of the privileged classes, rather than towards feeding and housing the poor.
Williamson crunches the numbers and discovers how much is "too much" in contributions towards cultural affairs, in Reich's eyes-- it works out to be 4.5% of charitable giving.
Giving to art-and-culture organizations amounted to just over $14 billion in 2012, or about 4.5 percent of charitable contributions, far less than was given to health, human-services, or public-benefit organizations. There are a fair number of single organizations that run into the billions per year, including YMCA ($6.24 billion), Goodwill Industries ($5 billion), Catholic Charities ($4.4 billion), and the Red Cross ($3.12 billion).
But is $14 billion of private charitable giving towards high-class cultural concerns a waste of money? Williamson wonders what Reich would say about government spending on these very same concerns.
A question, though: If spending on art, music, and culture is self-serving when private citizens do it, what is it when government does it? Essential, necessary, crucial — of course....Try cutting a piece of that and you’ll hear howls about how vital every farthing spent in the service of culture is.
And why the contradiction? Because what Reich really objects to is that billions of dollars of wealth are being redistributed... but they're being voluntarily distributed by people who aren't under his control. He doesn't have a piece of the action, you see.
He wants this sort of spending under government control, because he wants to feel virtuous in directing the spending of other people's money for charity.
Prayerful people bargaining with God over lottery numbers no doubt imagine that they would do some worthy things with that money, on top of buying a Ferrari. Progressives imagine all the wonderful things they could do with other peopleÂ’s money, and no doubt some of them are well-intentioned. But envy poisons whatever good intentions they have, which is how men such as Professor Reich come to write resentful indictments of people who are, remember, giving away billions of dollars of their own money. HeÂ’d prefer their money be given away by him, or by bureaucracies under the tutelage of men such as himself.
It's this point that chafes people like Reich. The progressive mindset is an ego-pleasing delusion, a fantasia which assures the progressive that He is the Hero.
He fights for the Poor (the MacGuffins). He is heroically offended by those who aren't doing their share for Poor. By writing articles about the Poor, and by being fashionably outraged by those who aren't sufficiently outraged by poverty themselves, he imagines himself as a Soldier on the battlefield of morality.
But notice, of course, he's not giving away his own money. He's not, like a Soldier, making actual sacrifices.
No, he has decided that his contribution to the cause will be in the form of articles and White Papers and manifestos. The Soldiers-- the grunts -- will do the actual fighting. But he and other members of the New Class will do the truly important work of Bossing the Soldiers About.
And that's the only way he gets a little slice of the Virtue Pie. There are Virtuous Things being done, but Reich isn't actually doing them. And yet he wishes to conceive of himself as Virtuous; as Astonishingly Virtuous, in fact. But how can he so conceive of himself if he's not actually doing any of the Virtuous heavy lifting?
Well, he'll be the guy who properly directs the heavy lifting, like that guy who says he'll help you move a couch, but then plops himself down in a big comfy chair and just tells other people to "Lift with their legs" and "Be careful of the doorway" and "Watch it, you're going to scuff the wall with the couch's leg."
That's his job. That's the job he's assigned himself. Not to be the actual Doer of Virtue, but to be instead the even more important Public Director of Virtuous Deeds.
Private charitable giving is threat to his job as Public Director of Virtuous Deeds, as he can't even contrive a fictional narrative in which he's somehow a key player in other people's private voluntary giving. He can only contrive that ego-plumping narrative if he and his class are somehow involved in directing charity traffic.
And thus it is that Robert Reich, while living handsomely on the public's dime, can fulminate at the public for not doing its share of all these Important Things.
Thanks to @rdbrewer4.
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Posted by: toby928© makes jokes from the Phantom Zone at December 16, 2013 10:09 AM (evdj2)
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Posted by: toby928© makes jokes from the Phantom Zone at December 16, 2013 10:11 AM (evdj2)
They always quote the Bible when they tout socialism; read about Cain and Abel to see how well sibling rivalry ends.
Posted by: PJ at December 16, 2013 10:11 AM (ZWaLo)
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Posted by: zombie at December 16, 2013 10:12 AM (+cx5n)
No wonder he's so pissed off at everyone else.
Posted by: Deja vu at December 16, 2013 02:12 PM (jYLHT)
_________________________
That's why he grew a beard.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 16, 2013 10:13 AM (32Ze2)
Things I've tried to say. Things I wish I had said.
I envy you Ace.
Posted by: Louis Smalls at December 16, 2013 10:13 AM (XQpYw)
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Posted by: zombie at December 16, 2013 10:14 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: airandee at December 16, 2013 10:14 AM (OnrWb)
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Art is a particularly bad thing for the government to spend money on. Since the members of the governing class giving out the money are radically different culturally from the members of the productive, and even the dependent, classes their taste in art is mostly worthless to the country as a whole.
And worse yet, it crowds out art that would be popular to a larger population since the government pays well, and pays for more consistently then the private sector does.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2013 10:14 AM (P3U0f)
Posted by: Lil' Bobby Reich at December 16, 2013 10:15 AM (wtvvX)
There was a long NPR piece on this last week. Charitable giving annoys nannyists for all the reasons cited above. There is an additional benefit to private philanthropy: when a program doesn't work the donors stop funding it and fund something else instead.
Any government do-goodism becomes an entitlement which can never be dismantled.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at December 16, 2013 10:15 AM (A0sHn)
$300 Billion to charity for $40 Billion in tax breaks?
I would like to see any, ANY Government agency come close to that efficiency.
HHS, Education, and HUD are lucky if 50% (30%) of the money gets to the people that need it.
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2013 10:15 AM (D+lxs)
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Posted by: steevy at December 16, 2013 10:19 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2013 10:19 AM (pqx7X)
Reich and other liberals are upset at three things:
1. The charitable donor decides who gets the donation, and we can't trust individuals to give to the 'proper' causes.
2. If the federal government was in charge of distributing all of these funds, there would be hundreds of job openings for liberals to siphon off not only paychecks, but kickbacks.
3. If the charitable deduction were eliminated, it would theoretically increase the taxes paid by the rich (actually upper middle class), and whether it did or not, inflicting pain on this class is the only pleasure worth having.
Posted by: Chuck Barris at December 16, 2013 10:19 AM (hiFDo)
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If the right was more confrontational I think challenging the left, incessantly, on their inherent hypocrisy could be very effective.
Imagine if every time a wealthy liberal talking head went on about income inequality his opposite number demanded to know how what percentage of his income said liberal was giving to charity...and just keep at it.
One way to think about it, is that all of these people like Reich are the equivalent to a pro-lifer who knocked up his girlfriend and made her have an abortion. What he is doing in keeping his wealth is repugnant according to his own *stated* morality.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2013 10:19 AM (P3U0f)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 16, 2013 10:19 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: steevy at December 16, 2013 10:20 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 16, 2013 10:20 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2013 10:20 AM (pqx7X)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2013 10:20 AM (FNtJ6)
My research has shown that it is almost an iron rule of economics that the rich in any given society have more money than the poor. I have yet to find a society where the opposite is true.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2013 10:20 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 16, 2013 10:20 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2013 10:21 AM (wDwVt)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 16, 2013 10:21 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: spongeworthy at December 16, 2013 10:21 AM (r5w1L)
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...and keep in mind that in the recent past such "help" included forced sterilization and lobotomies...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2013 10:21 AM (P3U0f)
Posted by: zombie at December 16, 2013 10:21 AM (+cx5n)
The shitty learning-free public school I attended a couple decades ago used to drive us down to Des Moines once or twice a year for "cult artifacts of the privileged class" like ballet, theater, and music. Special weekday matinees performed solely for school children, class irrelevant; probably all my classmates got out of the trip was Yay No Math and throwing pop bottles at the buses of athletic rivals, but my point is those "cult artifacts" Reich sneers at aren't just "rich people funding their own recreation".
In the present day, I know the Milwaukee Symphony has a lot of programs for kids whose parents can't afford music lessons and/or raise them on MTV. The Indy one might; if their union lets them. O_o
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 16, 2013 10:21 AM (ZKzrr)
They also provide more jobs. Go figure.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2013 10:21 AM (wDwVt)
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Posted by: steevy at December 16, 2013 10:22 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 16, 2013 10:22 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2013 10:22 AM (fWAjv)
Does he really fume about tax deductions for charitable giving? The progressives will only be happy when we live in a flavorless gray, inately boring, forcibly equalized communist utopia. Except, of course, for the progressive ruling class; their lives will still be interesting and multi-facted.
Posted by: MTF at December 16, 2013 10:22 AM (B5y+v)
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Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2013 10:23 AM (FNtJ6)
Six days before the Passover, Jesus came to Bethany, where Lazarus lived, whom Jesus had raised from the dead. Here a dinner was given in Jesus’ honor. Martha served, while Lazarus was among those reclining at the table with him. Then Mary took about a pint of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus’ feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. But one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, “Why wasn’t this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year’s wages.” He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it. “Leave her alone,” Jesus replied. “It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me.”
Robert Reich and the rest of the statist redistributionists are Judas.
Posted by: huerfano at December 16, 2013 10:23 AM (bAGA/)
France has turned a few of them into mosques.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 16, 2013 10:23 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Meremortal, counting at December 16, 2013 10:23 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2013 10:23 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 16, 2013 10:24 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 16, 2013 10:24 AM (QF8uk)
Still, the Commies could consolidate their death-grip on the FSA if they dried up private charity.
Posted by: Ein Biobauer, nur gehofft, für einen Tag, für einmal at December 16, 2013 10:24 AM (1/4XQ)
Posted by: steevy at December 16, 2013 10:24 AM (zqvg6)
deductions go to the wealthy. But who else would they go to?
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You know if we flattened the tax burden we might be able to even those numbers out a bit...right?
The problem isn't just that the rich pay more in absolute dollars but that the poor pay a *much* lower percentage...often "negative" taxes
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2013 10:24 AM (P3U0f)
When we get passed the idea that we have money of our own, much of this will become more easily accepted. The government owns all our money. They just give some to us according to our ability, and our needs.
It's really as simple as that.
Posted by: Soona at December 16, 2013 10:25 AM (FgQx3)
The needy need drums too, you know.
Posted by: Robert "Turd" Reich at December 16, 2013 10:25 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 16, 2013 10:25 AM (NQyj0)
Posted by: Registered Voter at December 16, 2013 10:25 AM (kYfFr)
How do you avoid choking the shit out of people? Or at least poisoning the brownies?
I remember walking the Mall in DC one time and Alan Cranston jogged by. (showing my age) It was all I could do to not curb stomp the guy. Were temptation a daily occurrence, I believe I would succumb.
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Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 16, 2013 10:26 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 16, 2013 10:26 AM (QF8uk)
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Hey, this sounds familiar guys...
Posted by: Some Noble from 1100 AD at December 16, 2013 10:27 AM (P3U0f)
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Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 16, 2013 10:28 AM (IXrOn)
You would think that shame alone at having your charitable deductions publicly available would encourage Reich to make donations at a far higher level than he does.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 16, 2013 10:28 AM (hiFDo)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 16, 2013 10:28 AM (659DL)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 16, 2013 10:28 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 16, 2013 10:28 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2013 10:29 AM (hbvPW)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2013 10:29 AM (hbvPW)
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Reich supports the Willie Sutton method of taxation.
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 16, 2013 10:29 AM (XUKZU)
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Posted by: Ian S. at December 16, 2013 10:29 AM (B/VB5)
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Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 16, 2013 10:30 AM (659DL)
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Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2013 10:30 AM (4JkHl)
And you would think that being the apostle of tiny carbon footprints would cause Algore to live modestly and travel by commercial jet.
PRO TIP: Leftards are impervious to shame.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2013 10:30 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2013 10:30 AM (hbvPW)
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We'll do for America what we did to Detroit.
Vote Democrat!
Posted by: Some Democrat at December 16, 2013 10:31 AM (P3U0f)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 16, 2013 10:31 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Robert O'Reich at December 16, 2013 10:32 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at December 16, 2013 10:32 AM (R8hU8)
You would think that shame alone at having your charitable deductions publicly available would encourage Reich to make donations at a far higher level than he does.
Now that's comedy gold right there, Jerry!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 16, 2013 10:32 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 16, 2013 10:32 AM (QF8uk)
They comprehend it. But they're, get this, lying.
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Posted by: Ein Biobauer, nur gehofft, für einen frei Tag, für einmal at December 16, 2013 10:33 AM (1/4XQ)
Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2013 10:34 AM (pqx7X)
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Posted by: DALE at December 16, 2013 10:35 AM (csnnJ)
Posted by: wooga at December 16, 2013 10:35 AM (opN5B)
Wait.Charity is when giving is done because Our Lord and Almighty God commands it but theft is where the left's lord and almighty god commands it.
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 16, 2013 10:35 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 16, 2013 10:36 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: The King of Peruvia D.C. at December 16, 2013 10:36 AM (KQp38)
Posted by: toby928© makes jokes from the Phantom Zone at December 16, 2013 10:37 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, insightfully folksy commenter at December 16, 2013 10:37 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: Soona at December 16, 2013 10:37 AM (iuBG8)
I guess its human nature to use either the actual dollar figure or the percentage number depending on which one makes your position look better.
Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2013 10:37 AM (m2CN7)
Eh, I'd rather not endanger whatever enables Zombie to get close to these people and entertain us with pictures and stories of them.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 16, 2013 10:37 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: huerfano at December 16, 2013 10:37 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 16, 2013 10:38 AM (T0NGe)
People like Reich cannot comprehend that one's hard earned money is their hard earned money - not a pooling of hard earned money.
They comprehend it just fine- when it's their money.
Your money? That's just what The State benevolently allows you to keep.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 16, 2013 10:38 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Andrew Dice Mallfly at December 16, 2013 10:39 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Homer Simpson at December 16, 2013 10:39 AM (opN5B)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, insightfully folksy commenter at December 16, 2013 10:39 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: DALE at December 16, 2013 02:35 PM (csnnJ)
If that were true, liberals would give more of their time, money and blood to others than conservatives.
As it stands, they don't care more than us.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 16, 2013 10:39 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2013 10:40 AM (hbvPW)
They're raising awareness. You can't put a price on that.
Posted by: toby928© makes jokes from the Phantom Zone at December 16, 2013 10:40 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Carlos Danger at December 16, 2013 10:40 AM (pqx7X)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 16, 2013 10:41 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 16, 2013 10:42 AM (4df7R)
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothin'.
Say it again.
Kim Jong Un, yeah.
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothin'.
Say it again.
Sorry, I just had to take a little musical interlude.
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 16, 2013 10:42 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 16, 2013 10:43 AM (uKMTt)
...........
I think he and Krugman would make 2 nicely matching lawn gnomes!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2013 10:44 AM (f9c2L)
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Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 16, 2013 10:44 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 16, 2013 10:44 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Robert Rrrrrrrreich! at December 16, 2013 10:44 AM (L8r/r)
The US leftists want what all leftists have always wanted: 99% of the public at an equal level of misery and them as the 1% of "elitists" directing most of the assets of society (after they have made themselves very comfortable).
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 16, 2013 10:44 AM (MaP11)
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Posted by: grognard at December 16, 2013 10:45 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: --- at December 16, 2013 10:45 AM (MMC8r)
You and your entire immediate family are ordered to appear at the Glorious Peoples Victory Mortar Targeting Range at once. Bring a poncho.
Posted by: Kim Jong Un at December 16, 2013 10:45 AM (8ZskC)
No, see, it's like this- if you give a man $20, you feed him for a day. If you force everybody else to each give him $20, you feed him for a lifetime.
So why bother giving him $20 when you're advocating for so much more out of being so very publicly caring?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 16, 2013 10:45 AM (SY2Kh)
>>>Some of those hideously rich folks - some of them will still give, even if the deductions go away
Yep. Its a way to knock away the voice of the middle classes in any public sphere. Who pays the piper calls the tune, after all.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 16, 2013 10:45 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 16, 2013 02:41 PM (IXrOn)
Sic a Whangdoodle on him.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 16, 2013 10:46 AM (4df7R)
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Posted by: WalrusRex at December 16, 2013 10:47 AM (XUKZU)
You don't "need" that much money. It is a "waste" for any one person to have that much money.
They simply do not understand that if everyone made the same government mandated salary, we would have nothing.. or next to nothing.. like the Soviet era Russian grocery stores where bread sold out in the first 5 minutes of the day and there were empty shelves the rest.
You tell them that, however, and they respond.. "oh no.. we'll do it right this time!" Uh huh.. call me skeptical!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2013 10:48 AM (f9c2L)
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Posted by: toby928© makes jokes from the Phantom Zone at December 16, 2013 02:40 PM (evdj2)
I can, actually. Empirically. It's 'zero'.
I'm aware of hunger in Africa. If I CARED about hunger in Africa, I'd send money or food. If I REALLY CARED, I'd send myself to run a food bank.
If I don't care, I don't do anything, no matter how aware I am.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 16, 2013 10:49 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 16, 2013 02:47 PM (Y92Nd)
And Ickle Bobby Reich knows a lot about being little.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 16, 2013 10:49 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Robert Reich at December 16, 2013 10:49 AM (MMC8r)
I couldn't stand that bitch.
Posted by: Darrin #2 at December 16, 2013 10:50 AM (8ZskC)
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Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, insightfully folksy commenter at December 16, 2013 10:51 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 16, 2013 10:51 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel
...........
Half a huzzah.. it wasn't as funny as it probably sounded in your head.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2013 10:52 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 16, 2013 02:50 PM (7ObY1)
Ickle Bobby Reich's Indian name is Half-a-Dog-Fucking.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 16, 2013 10:52 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, insightfully folksy commenter at December 16, 2013 10:52 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2013 10:52 AM (m2CN7)
>>>Go to one of the biggest hotbeds of progressivism, Cambridge MA, and watch all the obama voters walk right by the all the bums sitting on the sidewalk with their hands out as if they were invisible.
Cmon, I do that and I wouldn't vote for TFG if you were gonna kill me.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 16, 2013 10:52 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: wooga at December 16, 2013 02:35 PM (opN5B)
Well done. Probably would look like a Corgi Centaur
Posted by: The Jackhole at December 16, 2013 10:53 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 16, 2013 02:52 PM (4df7R)
It's actually Half-fucking a Dog. Since halfway's as deep as it gets. Similar to his thinking, actually...
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 16, 2013 10:53 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2013 10:53 AM (hbvPW)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2013 10:53 AM (FNtJ6)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, insightfully folksy commenter at December 16, 2013 10:53 AM (N/Sup)
.........
You see.. you don't get it.
It's not the left's policies that cause these programs to fail. It is the stingy, racist GOPers that do not allow the left to go far enuff!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2013 10:53 AM (f9c2L)
+1000
This is where the Catholic church and even some Protestant churches fall off the rails. Please educate your members that equating wealth redistribution with charity is incorrect. It is easy to illustrate; try reaching for their wallet and see that what say.
Posted by: dogfish at December 16, 2013 10:54 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: --- at December 16, 2013 10:54 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2013 10:55 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Lauren at December 16, 2013 10:55 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 16, 2013 02:53 PM (fwARV)
Excellent point.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 16, 2013 10:55 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Lauren at December 16, 2013 10:55 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: --- at December 16, 2013 10:56 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 16, 2013 10:56 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2013 10:56 AM (hbvPW)
Posted by: Captain Glenn Quagmire at December 16, 2013 10:56 AM (1o4B5)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, insightfully folksy commenter at December 16, 2013 10:57 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: --- at December 16, 2013 10:58 AM (MMC8r)
The 4' 11" figure is an exaggeration. Maybe with elevator shoes. I'd estimate 4'5" at most
Did he have a know on the bottom of his feet to control the speed of the vibrations?
Posted by: johnd01 at December 16, 2013 10:59 AM (ukNFU)
The Lollipop Guild.
The Lollipop Guild.
Posted by: --- at December 16, 2013 02:58 PM (MMC8r)
Just laughed so, so hard.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 16, 2013 11:00 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Lace Wigs [/i] at December 16, 2013 11:02 AM (La+CV)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 16, 2013 11:02 AM (lZBBB)
Ace, Lenin had a name for the type of Armchair Director-Hero that you describe:
The Vanguard of the Proletariat.
The self-appointed leaders of the ignorant masses and of the mid-tier intellectuals.
The ones who plan the riots, but do not participate in the riots.
The ones who give vague orders for genocide, so the mid-level intellectuals can give the specific orders for genocide, so the ignorant street thugs can actually do the killing.
The ones who step in at the last moment to accept the award for other people's work.
In other words: The Despicable Few.
Posted by: zombie at December 16, 2013 02:18 PM (+cx5n)
Kind of like the difference between the class clown and the class comedian.
The class clown is the guy that hits the teacher in the forehead with a spitwad.
The class comedian is the guy who talked the class clown into flinging spitwads at the teacher.
Posted by: Brian Dennehy at December 16, 2013 11:02 AM (TIIx5)
Swing and a miss there. The Target ISN'T the middle class. It isn't even the Rich. It's CHARITABLE GIVING. You see when 300 G$ is a bit inconvenient to those that want to claim that, in order to have a better society the GOVERNMENT needs to help people, and that GOVERNMENT is the only entity that really can help people. They need charitable giving to fail in order to make their solution credible. They think they can accomplish this by eliminating the charitable deduction.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at December 16, 2013 11:03 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 16, 2013 11:03 AM (h4eud)
I have a chance to buy a barely-used Yamaha Gigmaker 5 piece drum kit, black, I just saw pictures and there's barely a scratch on the heads.
20" bass, 2 toms, floor tom, snare, HH, crash
All pedals and hardware, no throne
He's talking $600. I was thinking $500 at the most, esp. without the throne. Thoughts?
Posted by: grognard at December 16, 2013 11:03 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, insightfully folksy commenter at December 16, 2013 11:03 AM (N/Sup)
Their "care" is about making sure there's enough poor people who believe in 'em to keep them in power.
The results of their policies are right what they should be for that.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 16, 2013 11:03 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 16, 2013 11:04 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 16, 2013 11:04 AM (VjL9S)
It is quite another thing entirely to spend weeks in some Hell-hole in el tercero mundo building with adobe in the hot sun, until you get some hideous subcutaneous parasite.
Posted by: Ein Biobauer, nur gehofft, für einen frei Tag, für einmal at December 16, 2013 11:06 AM (1/4XQ)
See Patton Oswald's hahahaha funny hashtag and all of the vile things people have tweeting with it: #AbortToEndPrayer.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2013 11:06 AM (wDwVt)
Posted by: Steve Albini at December 16, 2013 11:07 AM (pqx7X)
Posted by: m at December 16, 2013 11:08 AM (omrQI)
Taking goods by use of a weapon is thievery.
Taking goods by force of law is slavery.
Only giving of your own goods and by your own free will is charity.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 16, 2013 11:08 AM (hiFDo)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 16, 2013 11:10 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 16, 2013 03:04 PM (lZBBB)
Or House Catapults.
Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2013 11:11 AM (m2CN7)
>>>Only giving of your own goods and by your own free will is charity.
Or Patronage. Maybe do away with all of this nonsense and fund worthy artists one at a time, provided they produce whatever hack art the patron wants. Not good? Well get a fkn jay oh bee
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 16, 2013 11:12 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Havedash at December 16, 2013 11:12 AM (SIR+t)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 16, 2013 11:12 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: The Jackhole at December 16, 2013 02:53 PM (nTgAI)
There's an image that's going to linger.
Also, all y'all should be ashamed of mocking that halfling warrior for his height. I'm the one who has absolute moral authority to do that.
Hey, gnome boy, lick my boots. It should be easy enough for you to reach them.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 16, 2013 03:10 PM (VtjlW)
Hey, I'm over here
Posted by: Dick Morris at December 16, 2013 11:12 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: wiserbud at December 16, 2013 11:13 AM (NXg/k)
Posted by: Tyrion Lannister at December 16, 2013 11:14 AM (BrQrN)
Why the hell didn't they just shoot the damn witch?
WHITE munchkin soldiers shooting a GREEN witch? Right. We suppose they'll try to justify it as "self-defense..."
Posted by: The Munchkinland Mainstream Media at December 16, 2013 11:14 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: grognard
..........
Overpriced for used.. even well cared for..
That's the new price at GuitarCenter
http://tinyurl.com/k28qx4o
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2013 11:15 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: The Jackhole at December 16, 2013 11:16 AM (nTgAI)
Cause there is a buttload of money there for the govt to take.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 16, 2013 11:16 AM (tf9Ne)
Off, damned meme sock.
If the Left wants income-parity, how about wealth-parity? The price for a home should be fixed, nation-wide, at a standard rate per square foot.
All those cracker-box condos and row houses on the coasts can now be factored down to parity with big-ass houses in the midwest.
Posted by: --- at December 16, 2013 02:54 PM (MMC8r)
That would be hilarious.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 16, 2013 11:16 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Randy Newman [/i] at December 16, 2013 11:16 AM (La+CV)
Absolutely they do.
They believe that they- through government- would spend your money far more wisely than you spend your money.
They'd love to see charitable organizations be folded into the government, with voluntary donations replaced by mandatory tax dollars.
If the Red Cross (for example) goes in and helps a bunch of people after a flood, what do they (liberals) get out of it?
They don't get to take political credit, they don't unionized government workers to replace volunteers, they don't get the power to decide where the money is spent.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 16, 2013 11:17 AM (SY2Kh)
That's an even better dodge than claiming you work part-time for the CIA.
Posted by: Horacio Reich at December 16, 2013 11:17 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 16, 2013 11:18 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Blacksheep at December 16, 2013 11:19 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: toby928© makes jokes from the Phantom Zone at December 16, 2013 11:19 AM (evdj2)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lpng9pt
Posted by: Ein Biobauer, nur gehofft, für einen frei Tag, für einmal at December 16, 2013 11:19 AM (1/4XQ)
Posted by: The MSM at December 16, 2013 11:19 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Mallamutt at December 16, 2013 11:19 AM (wfk7/)
Why the hell didn't they just shoot the damn witch?
Or, as they were apparently fairly technically advanced.... built a damn firehose?
Because Sauron's eye would have seen them and stopped them.
Posted by: Call me Joey at December 16, 2013 11:20 AM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 16, 2013 11:21 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 16, 2013 11:21 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Robert Reich at December 16, 2013 11:21 AM (+H/11)
>>>Isn't Reich busy working in Santa's factory at this time of the year ?
That train set? You didn't build that! A lot of other elfs contributed to making that happen! There's a North Pole with a Kringle Toy Factory, a sleigh-powered delivery system, a Mrs. Claus that stays up all night making fudge for all of you!
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 16, 2013 11:22 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 16, 2013 11:24 AM (1Jaio)
That's the new price at GuitarCenter
http://tinyurl.com/k28qx4o
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2013 03:15 PM (f9c2L)
Thanks, Jerry. Interestingly, when I loaded that page, it shows the price as $666 in Canuck Dollars.
Thinking $450 at the most. What I might do is tell the guy to go ahead and try to sell it for more, but if in April he still needs to get rid of it I'll give him $400.
Posted by: grognard at December 16, 2013 11:25 AM (/29Nl)
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For the love of pete. Run-of-the-mill office workers give more than that. On a $30,000 a year job, that's not even a tithe.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 16, 2013 11:27 AM (P6QsQ)
"But he and other members of the New Class will do the truly important work of Bossing the Soldiers About."
No, that too is also like unto work. The truly important task is talking and writing about all the good things that are being done. And that is what the Ivy League cadres and all of the other members of the "If I think good thoughts and say good words then I am a good person" class believe.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 16, 2013 11:27 AM (hLRSq)
Even weirder, I just looked up an Epiphone Les Paul Tribute on that site, and it's the exact same price as the drum set in Canuckian!
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 16, 2013 11:29 AM (8b2sh)
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 16, 2013 03:29 PM (8b2sh)
What sort of Satan possessed site is this anyway?!
Posted by: grognard at December 16, 2013 11:30 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2013 11:31 AM (FNtJ6)
It's true he wants control over the donations, whether to cultural activities or human needs, which is a function of power, but he also craves the credit. Reich has a fanatical need to be seen as morally superior by others in the way he sees himself.
He may be the only man ever in Washington who had to look up to Tom Daschle, but when he sees his reflection in the mirror, he sees a mighty big man.
Posted by: Adjoran at December 16, 2013 11:31 AM (473jB)
>>>Even weirder, I just looked up an Epiphone Les Paul Tribute on that site, and it's the exact same price as the drum set in Canuckian!
They're taking Black Friday to whole new level!!1!
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 16, 2013 11:32 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Ruth Westheimer, diminutive sex therapist extraordinaire at December 16, 2013 11:33 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: Call me Joey at December 16, 2013 11:33 AM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Lace Wigs [/i] at December 16, 2013 11:35 AM (La+CV)
Posted by: Ruth Westheimer, diminutive sex therapist extraordinaire at December 16, 2013 11:36 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 16, 2013 11:36 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Ruth Westheimer, diminutive sex therapist extraordinaire at December 16, 2013 11:38 AM (N/Sup)
If I see a hungry man and decide to give him half of my sandwich, that is a moral decision, a charitable one, and the recipient will likely be grateful.
If the government forces me to give the man half of my sandwich at gunpoint, two things happen, one, the decision becomes immoral and uncharitable, and two, the recipient of the gift now feels entitled to half of my sandwich, and half of all of my future sandwiches.
Posted by: navybrat at December 16, 2013 11:38 AM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: The Jackhole at December 16, 2013 11:38 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 16, 2013 11:38 AM (h4eud)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 16, 2013 11:38 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: UGAdawg at December 16, 2013 11:39 AM (aO1W9)
Posted by: m at December 16, 2013 11:39 AM (omrQI)
Posted by: ejo at December 16, 2013 11:39 AM (GXvSO)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 16, 2013 11:40 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Ein Biobauer, nur gehofft, für einen frei Tag, für einmal at December 16, 2013 11:40 AM (1/4XQ)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 16, 2013 11:42 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 16, 2013 03:40 PM (aDwsi)
Sheesh, that's $100K per foot
Posted by: The Jackhole at December 16, 2013 11:42 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 16, 2013 11:43 AM (7ObY1)
I used to play an Epiphone Les Paul Tribute when I was in Electrik Funeral.
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I saw Electric Funeral open for the Grateful Dead at....
No, I didn't. But it sounded good.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 16, 2013 11:44 AM (hiFDo)
I think they failed to test Robert Reich.>>
I think they missed testing for Assholedwarfins.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 16, 2013 11:45 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 16, 2013 11:46 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Soona at December 16, 2013 11:46 AM (iuBG8)
Posted by: Iblis at December 16, 2013 11:46 AM (9221z)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 16, 2013 11:46 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: Lace Wigs [/i] at December 16, 2013 11:46 AM (La+CV)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 16, 2013 11:47 AM (uKMTt)
Just an O/T question here. When one turns 65, they they HAVE to enroll and pay for Medicare?
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If you have a retiree medical plan through your employer, you usually do. You don't have to sign up for social security in order to sign up for medicare, though.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 16, 2013 11:47 AM (hiFDo)
I believe there is a penalty if you don't.
Posted by: EC at December 16, 2013 11:48 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 16, 2013 11:48 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Ruth Westheimer, diminutive sex therapist extraordinaire at December 16, 2013 11:48 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: akula51 at December 16, 2013 03:47 PM (uKMTt)
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It's so we can ALL feel good that we're perpetuating the good life for crack ho's.
Posted by: Soona at December 16, 2013 11:49 AM (iuBG8)
Bob deals with the distributions of the sweet, sweet cash so the ignorant proles don't have too. He's a virtuous person, dammit!
Posted by: Humpty Hump at December 16, 2013 11:49 AM (QFnhZ)
If the government forces me to give the man half of my sandwich at gunpoint, two things happen, one, the decision becomes immoral and uncharitable, and two, the recipient of the gift now feels entitled to half of my sandwich, and half of all of my future sandwiches.
Posted by: navybrat at December 16, 2013 03:38 PM (AW7Gr)
I was at a Boston Market one night when an obviously homeless guy came up to me and asked if I could get him something to eat as he had not eaten in awhile. I had just a few extra schekels in my pocket so I told him I could buy him a side . This is when it turned to 'you have to be fucking me' funny.
After I told him that, he then replied to me like I was a waiter, asking me what kind of sides there were. I kind of laughed to myself but went ahead and told him they had things like mash potatoes, spinach, mac and cheese. He then had the balls to ask me " do they have anything with meat in it ? "
I ended up getting him some chicken tortilla soup but only in America do bums have this kind of mindset.
Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2013 11:50 AM (m2CN7)
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Maybe but you'd better leave those sacred heifers alone or Chris Matthews will say bad things about you on MSKGB.
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 16, 2013 11:50 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2013 03:50 PM (m2CN7)
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I would have told him to fuck off.
Posted by: Soona at December 16, 2013 11:53 AM (iuBG8)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2013 11:53 AM (FNtJ6)
We may be witnessing the sunÂ’s last dying gasps before entering into a long slumber. The impact of that slumber on EarthÂ’s climate remains the subject of growing scientific speculation.
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The hard part is trying to find out why this the Tea Party's fault.
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 16, 2013 11:53 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2013 03:50 PM (m2CN7)
Same thing in Canada. It's like clockwork - every year when the temperature drops below freezing, my route from the train station to work, on foot, gets 6 more homeless people.
You don't see them all summer. I think I saw one guy, on one occasion, from April through October.
As of November, 6 of them. Just in time for the holidays, imagine that. And they'll be gone in the Spring.
Posted by: grognard at December 16, 2013 11:53 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: DM at December 16, 2013 11:55 AM (LaKlJ)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 16, 2013 11:57 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: SAndra Fluke at December 16, 2013 11:57 AM (1ZBEK)
Posted by: Adjoran at December 16, 2013 03:31 PM (473jB)
He orders from us a lot.
Posted by: Acme Funhouse Mirrors at December 16, 2013 11:58 AM (L8r/r)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ox7zl86
Posted by: Ein Biobauer, nur gehofft, für einen frei Tag, für einmal at December 16, 2013 11:58 AM (1/4XQ)
"...many people consider President Obama to be the first gay President."
Oh, wait, did I say Tea Party? I meant MSNBC anchor Thomas Roberts.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 16, 2013 11:59 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 16, 2013 12:00 PM (V3kRK)
Yes, indeed. He's definitely the first.
**shiftyeyes**
Posted by: James Buchanan at December 16, 2013 12:01 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Soona at December 16, 2013 03:53 PM (iuBG
I thought about but it was so outrageous I thought it was either a test from God or Candid Camera. I did do that to another guy who came up to me at a gas station crying the blues. I got tired of giving money away that I knew would be used for booze or whatnot, that I started carrying McDonald dollar coupons in my car. I gave the guy a couple and he looked at them like , WTF I don't want this shit and started to walk away with them. I caught up to him and took them out of his hand and told him to move the fuck on, after he gave me a dirty look. No surprise I saw him doing the same thing at another location a few weeks later.
Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2013 12:01 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Ruth Westheimer, diminutive sex therapist extraordinaire at December 16, 2013 12:01 PM (N/Sup)
Right now, someone who makes over $500k and lives in a blue state pays over 50% in taxes. You would think at some point, there would be a moral question from lefties about when do taxes become excessive and when do we start looking at HOW that money is spent instead of just figuring out where to get more of it.
I do think one big mistake that we conservatives painted ourselves in a corner is with middle class tax cuts. The 47% that pay zero federal income taxes are a big boost to this idiotic way of thinking that if we just soak the rich a little more, the math will work.
Posted by: McAdams at December 16, 2013 12:04 PM (2TMCu)
@162 I'm pretty sure that for whatever reason, Mr. Romney will remain a generous man either way
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Romney gives away such an insanely large amount of his income that there really shouldn't be any question about this. In addition, in the returns he released in 2012, he ended up *not* taking a fairly sizeable chunk of the deductions available simply because he'd publicly stated earlier that he would be paying a certain amount of his income as taxes, and the deduction would have brought him in well under that.
Posted by: junior at December 16, 2013 12:05 PM (UWFpX)
.... so ...... I find this lamp, rub it, and some Genie wants to grant me a wish.
Naturally.... I respond "I'd like my dick to be one foot from the ground".
Fuckin Genies.
Posted by: Robert Reich at December 16, 2013 12:07 PM (nELVU)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo says, free toby at December 16, 2013 12:07 PM (iQxYV)
Catcher.
Third base. Not the position. The actual base itself.
Posted by: Jimbo at December 16, 2013 12:08 PM (V70Uh)
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Posted by: Butternut at December 16, 2013 04:15 PM (+8yte)
That's ok, Bobby. No one got meaningfully hired under that wasteful boondoggle.
Posted by: tanstaafl at December 17, 2013 08:07 AM (Cvp4l)
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