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April 21, 2013

Koch Brothers To Buy Tribune Newspapers?
— DrewM

Other than financing a few fringe libertarian publications, the Kochs have mostly avoided media investments. Now, Koch Industries, the sprawling private company of which Charles G. Koch serves as chairman and chief executive, is exploring a bid to buy the Tribune CompanyÂ’s eight regional newspapers, including The Los Angeles Times, The Chicago Tribune, The Baltimore Sun, The Orlando Sentinel and The Hartford Courant.
By early May, the Tribune Company is expected to send financial data to serious suitors in what will be among the largest sales of newspapers by circulation in the country. Koch Industries is among those interested, said several people with direct knowledge of the sale who spoke on the condition they not be named. Tribune emerged from bankruptcy on Dec. 31 and has hired JPMorgan Chase and Evercore Partners to sell its print properties.
The papers, valued at roughly $623 million, would be a financially diminutive deal for Koch Industries, the energy and manufacturing conglomerate based in Wichita, Kan., with annual revenue of about $115 billion.
Politically, however, the papers could serve as a broader platform for the KochsÂ’ laissez-faire ideas. The Los Angeles Times is the fourth-largest paper in the country, and The Tribune is No. 9, and others are in several battleground states, including two of the largest newspapers in Florida, The Orlando Sentinel and The Sun Sentinel in Fort Lauderdale. A deal could include Hoy, the second-largest Spanish-language daily newspaper, which speaks to the pivotal Hispanic demographic.

Yes, newspapers are dying but they still have their uses. The key to buying them would be not branding them as "conservative" (libertarian in actually) but keep them "mainstream". Don't ghettoize yourself, just make some key personnel appointments and let nature take its course.

The New York Times doesn't call itself "liberal" it just does its thing. Conservatives need to adopt that model.

Posted by: DrewM at 04:19 PM | Comments (509)
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1 Isn't it the LA Times that has the tapes that we want?

Posted by: t-bird at April 21, 2013 04:22 PM (FcR7P)

2 wha....?

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 04:22 PM (8sCoq)

3 Foist.

Posted by: Walsingham at April 21, 2013 04:22 PM (Bpn3R)

4 Hehehehehe. Pissed pants in Liberalville. Of course, they would be refused, no matter what the money...they're filthy non-liberals, you see.

Posted by: zsasz at April 21, 2013 04:23 PM (MMC8r)

5 thought I was gonna be numero uno what's up you mofos

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 04:23 PM (8sCoq)

6 Good move from the Kochs. Chicago, Hartford, and (especially) Orlando have suburbs, at least, who could benefit from decent coverage.

Baltimore and Los Angeles, I'd leave to burn.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 21, 2013 04:23 PM (QTHTd)

7 Yup. Conservatives need to adopt that model. If by that model you mean refusing to hire any but conservative employees and making it apparent to current liberal employees that their views are not welcome, and perhaps they would be happier at another job.

And continue to brand the paper as the mainstream.

Posted by: Taco Stand at April 21, 2013 04:23 PM (C+qQ0)

8 1 Those tapes will magically disappear before any sale would conclude.

Posted by: zsasz at April 21, 2013 04:23 PM (MMC8r)

9 Ooh, keep LAT long enough to get those tapes.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 21, 2013 04:23 PM (QTHTd)

10 One thing of which you may be absolutely assured is that if the Los Angeles Times is bought out, a quick foray will be made into the archives just beforehand to find and wipe the tape which features a younger Barack Obama at the event honoring Islamic terror stooge Rashid Khalidi.

Abso-fucking-lutely guaranteed. That tape will never be allowed by the Times to see the light of day. They've guarded it more tightly than the crown jewels up till now.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2013 04:24 PM (gqT4g)

11 Reciprocity bitches. Do you speak it?

Posted by: Taco Stand at April 21, 2013 04:24 PM (C+qQ0)

12 I have worked for a Koch company. They are great dudes to work for.

Posted by: Zakn at April 21, 2013 04:25 PM (zyaZ1)

13 Don't do it. Trust me.

Posted by: Carlos Slim at April 21, 2013 04:25 PM (z9HTb)

14 Conservatives need to adopt that model. If by that model you mean refusing to hire any but conservative employees and making it apparent to current liberal employees that their views are not welcome, and perhaps they would be happier at another job.

In media? Yes, absolutely.

No Earth Day posters. Berlin Wall Day posters instead.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 21, 2013 04:26 PM (QTHTd)

15 Berkshire Hathaway already bought our Marxist Newspaper.

Posted by: Knave at April 21, 2013 04:26 PM (cipri)

16 You had me at "Cock Brothers"...

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 21, 2013 04:26 PM (FcR7P)

17 I hope they know what they're doing.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2013 04:27 PM (doBIb)

18 The wailing and gnashing of teeth by the left will be epic.

Posted by: BignJames at April 21, 2013 04:28 PM (H9MGI)

19 Wish they'd buy McClatchy, so I could re-subscribe to my local rag.

Posted by: Chip and Dale at April 21, 2013 04:28 PM (4Mv1T)

20 They would rather sell it to their butt buddies Al Jazeera.

Posted by: Knave at April 21, 2013 04:28 PM (cipri)

21 Isn't the NY Daily News part of the Tribune group? Or was that already spun off?

Posted by: Fox2! at April 21, 2013 04:29 PM (+N4be)

22 I want to see those tapes the la Times has

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at April 21, 2013 04:29 PM (BjJOB)

23 Cantor's wife sits on the board of a Marxist Leninist Newspaper that no one reads anymore.

Posted by: Knave at April 21, 2013 04:30 PM (cipri)

24 off damn rodent sock-

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 21, 2013 04:30 PM (4Mv1T)

25 I have a question...who gave the tape to the Los Angeles Times and why? I remember both Hugh Hewitt and Larry Elder talking incessantly about that tape. Why give it to the newspaper, them acknowledging they have it, but not report on it? I know they were trying to cover for Obama, but something is missing here.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at April 21, 2013 04:31 PM (U0pcy)

26 Let's say the deal goes through. First headline s/b "Final: Socialism Deadlier Than Malaria Worldwide!"

Posted by: Thorvald at April 21, 2013 04:31 PM (1V6Pv)

27 It doesn't matter what they call themselves ,the MFM will label them right wing .

Posted by: steevy at April 21, 2013 04:31 PM (9XBK2)

28 I doubt that it will happen. The left will find some way to poison the deal and sink the papers rather than let the Koch brothers buy them.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2013 04:31 PM (lr3d7)

29
It's a terrible investment. And it won't happen.

Print is dead. The present and the future is through multimedia via the internet.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 21, 2013 04:31 PM (GcwH1)

30 On a hypothetical future day of joy when the _San Francisco Commie-cle_ is sold off at a huge loss and when the entire staff are fired on the spot, I will throw the biggest party ever held on the West Coast.

Believe it or not, that was once an editorially centrist paper which endorsed Reagan for president and which ran tough, substantive conservative economics commentary from the likes of the (late and much lamented) Warren T. Brookes. Sure, liberals wrote for the paper too, but there was some balance.

After Hearst bought out the de Young founding family, the formerly moderate Commie-cle went absolutely full apeshit libtard turned up to eleven and has been that way ever since. Without any doubt one of the worst major metro dailies in America.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2013 04:32 PM (gqT4g)

31 We're sorry. We are unable to sell the Tribune Company to you. We are looking for a buyer whose values align more closely with our own. Thank you for your interest.

Does that sound like the right brush off for the Koch Bros?

Posted by: no good deed at April 21, 2013 04:34 PM (mjR67)

32 Yo, zakn, you still here? Gaming question. Prob a stupid one, but hey.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 04:34 PM (GEICT)

33 I doubt that it will happen. The left will find some way to poison the deal and sink the papers rather than let the Koch brothers buy them.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2013 08:31 PM (lr3d7)

This. The left would sooner let their precious print-media megaphones burn right to the ground than let the dastardly Koch brothers get hold of them.

Posted by: antisocialist at April 21, 2013 04:35 PM (eGr8Z)

34 They need to have a straw buyer in the wings.

Posted by: zsasz at April 21, 2013 04:35 PM (MMC8r)

35 The papers, valued at roughly $623 million, That's roughly a $olyndra. I'll bet they're conservatively valued (wink, wink) at $623 mil for the Koch brothers.

Posted by: t-bird at April 21, 2013 04:35 PM (FcR7P)

36 7 Yup. Conservatives need to adopt that model. If by that model you mean refusing to hire any but conservative employees and making it apparent to current liberal employees that their views are not welcome, and perhaps they would be happier at another job. And continue to brand the paper as the mainstream. Posted by: Taco Stand at April 21, 2013 08:23 PM (C+qQ0) Exactly. Great summation.

Posted by: Truman North at April 21, 2013 04:35 PM (EsTrr)

37 This is a great idea. Maybe they could get some good press for a change. The other lesson from the left we should learn is to buy up those small-town papers. I recon most of them would go for a song when available. Cut off the left wing drumbeat out where people are naturally more prone to think for themselves. Any morons around here know how to start and run a nonprofit? Truman, I'm looking at you... I'd be happy to run it, but my time don't come cheap and my wife and I have no money. Like I said, I have a wife. And a seven year old. And a boat. And grad school. And a serious landscaping habit. With the brainpower available here, we should be able to turn things around, at least around the small towns and rural areas, with the proper focus and some financial backing. Would be a nice way to get some funemployed morons back to earning money again, too.

Posted by: Boomer Redneque votes Galt/Rearden '16! Burn, baby, burn... at April 21, 2013 04:35 PM (eQnzo)

38 It doesn't matter what they call themselves ,the MFM will label them right wing .

Posted by: steevy at April 21, 2013 08:31 PM (9XBK2)

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If the Koch bros would just change their name to the Cock Bros, every newspaper in San Francisco would be lining up to be bought.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2013 04:36 PM (cR3Kx)

39 Release the Obama Khalidi Sextape!

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 04:36 PM (ByUxC)

40 keep LAT long enough to get those tapes.

They were destroyed years ago.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 21, 2013 04:37 PM (/gHaE)

41 And, oh yeah. This didn't make the gun thread, but who wants a .50 cal bottle opener? http://lastcall.dailysteals.com/ Only good through midnight!

Posted by: Boomer Redneque votes Galt/Rearden '16! Burn, baby, burn... at April 21, 2013 04:37 PM (eQnzo)

42 You know what be fucking hilarious.... If they became profitable again.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 21, 2013 04:38 PM (MhA4j)

43 Now that my leftover pizza's gone, time to get back working on the research paper due tonight. I'll check back later, prolly on the ONT. Bye, y'all!

Posted by: Boomer Redneque votes Galt/Rearden '16! Burn, baby, burn... at April 21, 2013 04:38 PM (eQnzo)

44 31 On a hypothetical future day of joy when the _San Francisco Commie-cle_ is sold off at a huge loss and when the entire staff are fired on the spot, I will throw the biggest party ever held on the West Coast. Haven't they stopped printing and gone to Internet only?

Posted by: fluffy at April 21, 2013 04:39 PM (z9HTb)

45 Sure, liberals wrote for the paper too, but there was some balance.

I think it's time for non-Left outlets to quit accepting the liberal view as "balance", anymore than we consider 9/11 troof as "balance".

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 21, 2013 04:40 PM (QTHTd)

46 The NY Times had the Koch's as "Conservative" in the headline and "libertarian" in the first paragraph.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 21, 2013 04:41 PM (JQuNB)

47 Can they pick up the Albany Times Union too, and send those commie lib journalistas elsewhere?

Posted by: Chas at April 21, 2013 04:41 PM (9AxVP)

48 They were destroyed years ago.

Doubt it. Leverage. Putin, for instance, may own a copy.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 21, 2013 04:41 PM (QTHTd)

49 Yeah drew...I'm thinking the progtards will take care of declaring it "evil reichwing"...which by default is anything not moontard

Posted by: sven10077 at April 21, 2013 04:42 PM (LRFds)

50 Print is dead.

Ever since "Mold, Spores and Fungus Quarterly" went online

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 21, 2013 04:42 PM (QTHTd)

51 I will buy all of those fish wrappers for One American Dollar.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 21, 2013 04:43 PM (jucos)

52 Print is dead. The present and the future is through multimedia via the internet.

Overhaul existing successful 'libertarian' blogs and rebrand them with the deadtree logos' editorial pages.

Hot Air becomes "LA Times Online - powered by HA"

The Orlando-Jawa Sentinel

Chicago Weasel Tribune Zippers

endless possibilities and national exposure for intelligent thought.

Posted by: Cross the Streams at April 21, 2013 04:43 PM (EZl54)

53 Doubt it. Leverage. Putin, for instance, may own a copy. In that case, Joe Biden must have a copy, too.

Posted by: t-bird at April 21, 2013 04:44 PM (FcR7P)

54 video killed the radio star too

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 04:44 PM (8sCoq)

55 The papers also have good websites. The papers are dying because they are liberal and their base, old farts, are conservative. The old farts, myself, refuse to pay for their shit. NOW a conservative paper would be a different story.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 04:44 PM (wR+pz)

56 Just sent this to my hyper-liberal brother-in-law in Chicago. I could practically hear the aneurysm burst from 300 miles away. It was wonderful,

Posted by: S.D.N. Freude at April 21, 2013 04:44 PM (u3N3z)

57 OT but, mother-fucker! Geraldo Rivera ‏@GeraldoRivera 1m Regrets to my Muslim brothers/sisters. We know how Boston will aggravate life's friction-Now's the time for patience pride & understanding

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 21, 2013 04:45 PM (piMMO)

58 In that case, Joe Biden must have a copy, too. Posted by: t-bird at April 21, 2013 08:44 PM (FcR7P) Nope. Joe Biden is the only intelligent thing TFG has done. Three words: Assassination Insurance.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 04:45 PM (GEICT)

59 Yeah, but Joe Biden already taped an episode of "Sesame Street" over his

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 21, 2013 04:45 PM (QTHTd)

60 >> Other than financing a few fringe libertarian publications, By this I guess they mean Cato Institute. Something bothers me about this -- Cato is not "fringe libertarian". It is kind of mainstream libertarian, and I would not call libertarianism itself "fringe". (although many libertarians are, but so are many liberals, etc.)

Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at April 21, 2013 04:45 PM (zZJJp)

61 Regrets to my Muslim brothers/sisters. We know how Boston will aggravate life's friction-Now's the time for patience pride & understanding

He is a prick and a half.

I wonder what the parents of that little boy are thinking when they read that.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2013 04:46 PM (doBIb)

62 29 I doubt that it will happen. The left will find some way to poison the deal and sink the papers rather than let the Koch brothers buy them. Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2013 08:31 PM (lr3d7) So win, win?

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 04:46 PM (XwDPQ)

63 the gospel according to Ayn Rand

Posted by: JDP at April 21, 2013 04:46 PM (8HhF2)

64 "Politically, however, the papers could serve as a broader platform for the KochsÂ’ laissez-faire ideas."

Sure, after showing the editors that have contributed to leftist slant in the reportage have been fired.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 21, 2013 04:47 PM (miepR)

65 If I had the money, I'd buy the Detroit Free Press just so I could shut it down .

Posted by: Neucker at April 21, 2013 04:48 PM (u3N3z)

66 58 OT but, mother-fucker! Geraldo Rivera ‏@GeraldoRivera 1m Regrets to my Muslim brothers/sisters. We know how Boston will aggravate life's friction-Now's the time for patience pride & understanding Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 21, 2013 08:45 PM (piMMO) Fuck that stupid sack of shit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 04:48 PM (GEICT)

67 Geraldo is half joo. Wonder if he remembers his joo mom?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 04:49 PM (wR+pz)

68 The Best Part would be the White House Press Credentials.

Posted by: zsasz at April 21, 2013 04:49 PM (MMC8r)

69 58 ndh, I think he's of their tribe...Jizzya swapper anyway

Posted by: sven10077 at April 21, 2013 04:49 PM (LRFds)

70 Doubt it. Leverage. Putin, for instance, may own a copy.

Copies exist, just not at the LAT anymore.

Anything they had was "accidentally" tossed out by an intern 3 years ago.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 21, 2013 04:49 PM (/gHaE)

71 Politically, however, the papers could serve as a broader platform for the KochsÂ’ laissez-faire ideas. God forbid some wackos print their "leave me alone" ideas.

Posted by: t-bird at April 21, 2013 04:50 PM (FcR7P)

72 It's about damn time. Newspapers have been in crisis for a long time, you'd have thought they would have changed their ways long ago. Nope. All their libtard captains are in "Go down with the ship" mode. So, hey, LA Times, Chicago Trib, SF Chronicle, I'm looking at you. You gotta embrace change, baby!

Posted by: Cowboy at April 21, 2013 04:50 PM (FMrA0)

73 Yes, LA Times has the Kalidi tape, sorry if I misspelled the last name. OT- I want to thank every single one of you that offered prayers for my border and family last night in the ONT. Thank you, Carol

Posted by: CarolT at April 21, 2013 04:50 PM (z4WKX)

74 >>>The papers also have good websites.

BB, I wish it were true here. Since McCrory got voted in, and the red sweep of the legislature in 2010, the News and Disturber went absolutely FULL RETARD.

When we had a dem guv and legislature, they did a reasonable job of reporting the news, even outing a few of the criminal element in the govt (that they helped get elected).

Now they are friggin' hysterical, and I had to cancel last week.

Their website sucks ass. My 16yo's social studies class could build a better website.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 21, 2013 04:51 PM (4Mv1T)

75 Wonder if he remembers his joo mom?

I've been wondering this about the useful idiots who are meeting the MoBro's in the "Center for Jewish Muslim Relations". You know, the one in the Boston area, which M. Bilal Kaleem attends - just before the Friday khutba, featuring spiritual lessons on "why the Boxthorn tree shelters the zionist sons of monkeys".

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 21, 2013 04:52 PM (QTHTd)

76 I would love for one of the Koch Bros. to say- "I'm putting up $600M to see that tape of Obama kissing up to terrorists ..., the rest is chaff." Make the tapes the story.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 04:52 PM (XwDPQ)

>>Geraldo is half joo.

Geraldo is a piece of shit.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 04:52 PM (ByUxC)

78 After Hearst bought out the de Young founding family, the formerly moderate Commie-cle went absolutely full apeshit libtard turned up to eleven and has been that way ever since. Without any doubt one of the worst major metro dailies in America. So, it's hard to tell what "circulation" is these days because they include "electronic editions", however that's measured. But...the Chronicle has circulation of about 230,000 which is half of the San Jose Mercury News, which I guess serves as the real regional newspaper there. I'd expect they could easily fix the LAT just by focusing on...I dunno, the major industry of that city! They, I guess, don't want to seem too tabloidy or to concentrate on the business to compete with Variety, but there's no reason to pick up the LAT. And what's the difference between the Chicago Tribune and the Chicago Sun-Times? If they change editorial policies, the Chicago Tribune is the one most likely to change drastically.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 21, 2013 04:52 PM (xSegX)

79 The Koch brothers could easily do a mini USA Today with those markets and buying McClathy. I think their money would be better spent starting a alternative to MSDNC. Fox is not losing steam.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 04:52 PM (wR+pz)

So win, win?

Kind of. If they do succeed in buying them they should definitely focus on using the established reader base to build an online presence. If they don't then those papers will likely not exist in another ten years. Meanwhile, conservatives need to continue to build up online organizations to challenge the left's dominance of the news.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2013 04:54 PM (lr3d7)

81 Good G-d, if I went to a meeting with some of the scum from the Tsarnaevs' mosque, my mom would sit shive. And she's only half Jewish

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 21, 2013 04:54 PM (QTHTd)

82 Finding conservative editors and journalists will be the hardest part, hell even moderates. Sure they are out there but the talent pool is excessively smaller than the lefts.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 21, 2013 04:55 PM (oBhEo)

83 Did they offer him the Daniel Pearl seat, in front of the black flag?

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 04:55 PM (XwDPQ)

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 21, 2013 08:45 PM (piMMO)

Fuck that stupid sack of shit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 08:48 PM (GEICT)

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Does he not realize they'd gladly saw his head off in front of a gibberish flag?

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 21, 2013 04:56 PM (5wHPS)

85 83 Finding conservative editors and journalists will be the hardest part, hell even moderates. Sure they are out there but the talent pool is excessively smaller than the lefts. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 21, 2013 08:55 PM (oBhE Just grab some guys off of the ONT

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 04:56 PM (XwDPQ)

86 Well now Tribune just guaranteed a higher price tag for the sale. The rich liberals will have to bid up things to make sure Koch does not get it.

That is still a win. The rich socialists having to spend capital to keep in their grubby hands companies that are dieing. Less money then for other mischief.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 04:56 PM (ZZGff)

87 Article says all of Tribune's papers are valued at $600 million today. In 2006 David Geffen offered $2 billion just for the L.A. Times. Tribune turned it down because they didn't think it was enough.

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 21, 2013 04:57 PM (Vjplh)

88 There also has to be a focus on internet platforms.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 21, 2013 04:57 PM (oBhEo)

89 Print is dead. The present and the future is through multimedia via the internet. Posted by: soothsayer at April 21, 2013 08:31 PM Clyde Lewis on Ground Zero Radio program Wednesday night was making this point and that Cable News and Network News is dead too. He was expounding on the unreliable nature of these outlets and their laughable rush to put scoops on the air before they are even minimally researched. How Twitter was destroying them for accurate scoops and just then he got a tweet that the police scanner in Cambridge was reporting officer down and a carjacking, way before networks had it. Broken live nationwide before the MSM had its shoes on. Twitter. Then as the evening unfolded, his listeners in Watertown were tweeting him the details of the chase and shoot out. The MSM is dead. Only dumbasses give them any shred of credibility now.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 21, 2013 04:57 PM (MhA4j)

90 T R the N&O has ALWAYS been a democrat rag. The Daniels family ran it into the ground with their stupid web adventures and had to sell it. They never got rid of the fucking democrats because McC loves em. Their website is worse that the Charlotte Observer and that is saying a lot. What the N&O is pissed about is NO one gives a shit what they say. First time in a hundred years. FUCK THEM.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 04:57 PM (wR+pz)

91 Los Angeles needs a conservative-libertarian newspaper. For the last 40 years there has only been one liberal voice since the last Hearst paper closed.

Posted by: scrubjay at April 21, 2013 04:57 PM (vgZcd)

92 The real problem is the damn J schools. Maybe the Brothers Koch can take over a few struggling universities and kick out the commie J profs.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 21, 2013 04:57 PM (4Mv1T)

93 Just grab some guys off of the ONT Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 08:56 PM (XwDPQ) Don't laugh. I would go.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 04:58 PM (wR+pz)

94 Buying a wire service might be even more effective.

Posted by: zsasz at April 21, 2013 04:59 PM (MMC8r)

95 Does he not realize they'd gladly saw his head off in front of a gibberish flag? Posted by: USS Diversity at April 21, 2013 08:56 PM (5wHPS) He's completely and utterly devoid of any sense. This is the stupid fuck that was tweeting out after Sandy that he needed a generator to hook up to his koi pond or the fish would die.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 04:59 PM (GEICT)

96 Rich people never spend capital.

That's what banks are for.

Look at Trump. I don' think he's spent a dime of his money on any of his projects.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 21, 2013 05:00 PM (Kpn/z)

97 Yes,the horrible backlash against the innocent moderate muslims that somehow never happens.

Posted by: steevy at April 21, 2013 05:01 PM (9XBK2)

98 Finding conservative editors and journalists will be the hardest part, hell even moderates. I will edit the ever-loving crap out of their shit! When do I start? Seriously, I wouldn't think editors would be a problem. There might be the occasional double-post of articles in adjacent columns, but that's life.

Posted by: t-bird at April 21, 2013 05:01 PM (FcR7P)

99 My Koi!!!

Posted by: Geraldo's Nose at April 21, 2013 05:01 PM (ByUxC)

100 >>>First time in a hundred years. FUCK THEM.

And how, brother.

I love me some newsprint and coffee in the morning. But I just could not bear it any longer. When Burr announced he had decided to throw in for the filibuster last week they went berserko on the Op-Ed page.

Which of course caused me go berzerko, and cancel.

The fairly experienced customer service rep who answered my call made the enormous mistake of asking me why I was canceling.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 21, 2013 05:01 PM (4Mv1T)

101 95 Buying a wire service might be even more effective. Posted by: zsasz at April 21, 2013 08:59 PM (MMC8r) Do you remember that story written for the web back in the LGF days about how the Saudis bought their way in to the AP?

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 05:02 PM (XwDPQ)

102 Memphis Commercial-AOS-HQ

Posted by: Bildo (Award Winning Crash Test Assoc. at VETSA) at April 21, 2013 05:03 PM (eToum)

103 Only dumbasses give them any shred of credibility now.
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 21, 2013 08:57 PM (MhA4j)

And that's the problem right there. These rags are only good for propaganda to the LIV and the FSA crowd.

Which is why they're stone liberal. (both the papers and the readers.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 21, 2013 05:03 PM (Kpn/z)

104 Somebody say something?

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 05:06 PM (XwDPQ)

105 "Finding conservative editors and journalists will be the hardest part, hell even moderates."

They don't necessarily have to be conservative. Someone with liberal leanings but interested in fairness, a la a Pat Caddell, would likely work.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 21, 2013 05:06 PM (miepR)

106 Okay. What happened? Had a pretty good scream fest going there and the presses stopped. pun intended.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 21, 2013 05:06 PM (4Mv1T)

107
Print may be dead, but some print publications are starting to show life online. For instance, most of the MI papers outside of Detroit have consolidated now and have a decent thing going at mlive.com There's still demand for local news and somebody has to report on it. Maybe these print publications will gradually move to an online presence only, but I think they'll continue to exist.

Posted by: slatz at April 21, 2013 05:08 PM (PIOWA)

108 OT. Crap. Just looked at my calender and The 24th is Administrative Professional Day. How the hell am I suppossed to get A/P cards in the mail in order to get them there on time? WTF is that?

Posted by: Mikey Strahan at April 21, 2013 05:08 PM (u6lBN)

109 The real problem is the damn J schools. Maybe the Brothers Koch can take over a few struggling universities and kick out the commie J profs. Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 21, 2013 08:57 PM (4Mv1T) Fuck the J-schools. Just have the conservative/libertarian papers hire reporters who can read, write, and spell, and who are not flaming leftards. For most of the history of newspapers, there were no J-schools. Reporters learned their trade as apprentices. And it is a trade, not a profession.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 21, 2013 05:08 PM (fNpC1)

110 damn sock!

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at April 21, 2013 05:09 PM (u6lBN)

111 Maybe flip one of the other big networks? You can't attract political bystanders with media with an obvious conservative bent. There needs to be a hook with non-political stories to bring in folks, then let them stay for the conservative pundits.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 21, 2013 05:11 PM (oBhEo)

112 How many newspapers does Tribune have? The Koch Bros. need to buy the same number of flamethrowers. Show up in each editorial office on Day 1 and let 'em rip.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 21, 2013 05:12 PM (7ppar)

113 Let the ONT crew see print?

Oh my there would be many weasels needing new Depends.

Lets do it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 05:12 PM (ZZGff)

114
Small local papers will likely be existent for a long while. Our local gets their national news from the wire services, but they do a really good job on the county and town/village matters. They're left slanted since 09, as much as they dare to be. I remind them of this at every opportunity, and to their credit, they print my missives.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 21, 2013 05:13 PM (SAMxH)

115 Whats the Q Cochran? ask again in the ONT, I'll look for it

Posted by: Zakn at April 21, 2013 05:15 PM (zyaZ1)

116 LOL Boomer! I am learning how to run a nonprofit. I wouldn't say I have any idea how to run a nonprofit yet! By the way, remember a few months ago, I was talking about starting an environmental learning center nonprofit. That is going to be a real thing at some point, at it will fund soldiers for us down here.

Posted by: Truman North at April 21, 2013 05:15 PM (EsTrr)

117 110 Alberta Oil Peon, Quite offer J School grads 1/4 wages for the time needed to untrain them before apprenticing them.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 21, 2013 05:16 PM (LRFds)

118 Another GOP Traitor in Paul Ryan. Ryan to appear with Marxist Luis Giutterez at a Pro Amnesty Rally in Chicago Monday.

Boehner if you and the House GOP pass amnesty, you are done.

Posted by: Jackj at April 21, 2013 05:18 PM (KLJRT)

119 At least have a feature like The Sun's page three girls. Maybe a sports section on peach paper, aka "sports peach". You need readership for page count. More pages = more space between the ads. Space between the ads = news hole.

Posted by: Thorvald at April 21, 2013 05:18 PM (1V6Pv)

120 I would fire all the outright libs firstÂ…. Give em Obama's unemployment hellÂ…. Next - refuse advertising from liberal organizations and companiesÂ…. Sure all the libs will quit subscribing - but newspapers are dead anywayÂ…..

Posted by: redguy at April 21, 2013 05:19 PM (oqvI4)

121 First day at Koch Publications: All employees must place their hands on this Bible. Those that don't burst into flames can stay.

Posted by: zsasz at April 21, 2013 05:20 PM (MMC8r)

122 I can see all those high-minded reporters quiting in droves to enjoy the benefits of Funemployment

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 21, 2013 05:20 PM (e8kgV)

123 The Koch Bros. should save their money and let the papers die. Buy TV stations. That's where the low-info voters get all their news -- you think they read papers? Buy local TV stations in Democrat cities and start exposing the corruption and incompetence. Show the low-info voters exactly what kind of scum they voted for.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 21, 2013 05:21 PM (Giu2i)

124 I can see something like this ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfnddMpzPsM

Posted by: H.R. Pufnstuf at April 21, 2013 05:21 PM (e8kgV)

125 15 Berkshire Hathaway already bought our Marxist Newspaper. Warren Buffet is aiding the MarxistsÂ…he is a crony capitalist. I do some work in the Motor Home Industry and Forest River is owned by BuffettÂ….The owner of the dealership says they can't sell "The Berkshire" when people know Buffet's company is making itÂ…. They have stopped ordering "The Berkshire" from Forest River - a company owned by Berkshire Hathaway.

Posted by: redguy at April 21, 2013 05:22 PM (oqvI4)

126 1) They'll sell it to a Leftist instead. Even if Koch bid twice as much. 2) Doesn't matter what they did if they DID buy it. They'll still be hammered by the Lamestream Media as "Fox in Print." Branding won't matter on that score.

Posted by: Shawn G at April 21, 2013 05:24 PM (/lltO)

127 I can see something like this ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfnddMpzPsM
No Pressure !!

Posted by: H.R. Pufnstuf at April 21, 2013 05:24 PM (e8kgV)

128 So I see on twitter li'l bro is awake and responding to questions in writing.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 21, 2013 05:24 PM (X6akg)

129 Can't imagine a deal being approved. Didn't Manbearpig cancel a pending sale before signing off on Al Jazeera? For the same reason - he didn't like the politics.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2013 05:24 PM (CbiPs)

130 Will The Daily Moron have a centerfold?

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 05:25 PM (8sCoq)

131 Will The Daily Moron have a centerfold? Yes but only for gingers.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 21, 2013 05:26 PM (1Z+u5)

132 They need to go through a proxy. Some LLC where the owners aren't publicly listed. Then just start hiring the right people...

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 21, 2013 05:26 PM (Vk2pI)

133 I would prefer them to purchase FOX News and fire every last lib and RINO there.

Posted by: Attila at April 21, 2013 05:26 PM (Cs2tJ)

134 Some of those page three girls are fab! And I'm not even a boobehs man.

Posted by: Thorvald at April 21, 2013 05:28 PM (1V6Pv)

135 That would be nice, but think about it. The Washington Post had the chance to sell Newsweek to a conservative owner. It didn't.

1. Would any of us be reading Newsweek even if it had gone to a conservative owner?

2. Does anybody here care now that Newsweek went to another liberal owner?

It's dead.

At some point, playing with the corpse becomes both unseemly and boring.

Posted by: AD at April 21, 2013 05:34 PM (2EBtf)

136 O/T:
Secret Emails: Cato, Norquist, Rubio Use Boston Terror Attacks to Push Immigration Reform

Secret Emails: Pro-Immigration Reform Consultants, Think Tanks Testify Through Grover Norquist

'MarcoPhone' Program Covers Area Including 200k Sq Miles, 7+ Million People, Open-Ended Funding

All at Breitbart.

Nice.

Posted by: Attila at April 21, 2013 05:34 PM (Cs2tJ)

137 12615 Berkshire Hathaway already bought our Marxist Newspaper.
Bought my railroad also!

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at April 21, 2013 05:36 PM (u6lBN)

138 If this happens, R.S. McCain should be in the catbird seat.

Posted by: derit at April 21, 2013 05:36 PM (I88Jc)

139 This is a little weird. In my tab open to AOSHQ, when I refresh it, at the bottom it says "transferring info from www.fbi.gov." Kinda spooky.

Posted by: Mayday at April 21, 2013 05:37 PM (F3s39)

140 Would any of us be reading Newsweek even if it had gone to a conservative owner?

If the content that's now on Breitbart was posted on Newsweek . . . then, uh, yeah. We would

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 21, 2013 05:39 PM (QTHTd)

141 Will The Daily Moron have a centerfold?

Yes but only for gingers.

Posted by: Sean Bannion

I love you man :-P

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 21, 2013 05:39 PM (tonYs)

142 >at the bottom it says "transferring info from www.fbi.gov." Kinda spooky. Posted by: Mayday at April 21, 2013 09:37 PM (F3s39) probably because Ace posted a link to the FBI website. Or the FBI is watching you. 50/50 either way.

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 05:39 PM (8sCoq)

143 If the House passes Amnesty, the GOP will flatline.

Posted by: eman at April 21, 2013 05:40 PM (71gyQ)

144 The K boys should appoint Sarah Palin editor in chief just so we could see every libtard reporter and talking head between LA and NY go into apoplectic convulsions.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at April 21, 2013 05:41 PM (p4U6S)

145 They have stopped ordering "The Berkshire" from Forest River - a company owned by Berkshire Hathaway. Posted by: redguy at April 21, 2013 09:22 PM That's OK. DHS will order a crapload of them. See how that works.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 21, 2013 05:42 PM (MhA4j)

146 Buying a wire service might be even more effective. Posted by: zsasz at April 21, 2013 08:59 PM (MMC8r) Buy the Tribune company and reorient it into a competing wire/web news service. Thousands of regional papers, radio and TV stations would love to get a cheaper alternative to AP.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 21, 2013 05:42 PM (MBqvE)

147

Filthy good.

Seriously, this would be the best. It would take a while to get rid of the garbage that write in those pages.

How many anonymous bloggers could fill the roll!!!!!!

Bring bloggers into the mainstream media!!!

Only thing that will save it, frankly.

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 21, 2013 05:43 PM (KeAkJ)

148 (libertarian in actually)

wtf does that mean

Posted by: Jeanne of the North at April 21, 2013 05:43 PM (fiJzj)

149
131Will The Daily Moron have a centerfold? Yes, nothing but elbows!!!!11!!11

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at April 21, 2013 05:44 PM (u6lBN)

150
It's really not about prestigious logos.

It's about having the resources to gather news quickly.

It's also about entertainment. It's all about getting eyes on your website and keeping them there and getting them to come back.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 21, 2013 05:45 PM (052zE)

151 probably because Ace posted a link to the FBI website. Or the FBI is watching you. 50/50 either way.
--

Thanks, that makes me feel better, was getting that creepy Big Brother feeling.

Posted by: Mayday at April 21, 2013 05:46 PM (F3s39)

152 Did anyone just hear the Watertown Police chief on Janine Pirro's show? He was recounting Friday night. Interesting....but I really wish they'd allow more time for these guest. I'm so tired of these 'we're up against a hard break'. Guy could barely finish his story.

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 05:46 PM (X6akg)

153 At some point, playing with the corpse becomes both unseemly and boring. Posted by: AD at April 21, 2013 09:34 PM (2EBtf) I think that this situation absolutely requires a really unseemly and boring gesture be done on somebody's part.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 21, 2013 05:47 PM (MBqvE)

154 In my tab open to AOSHQ, when I refresh it, at the bottom it says "transferring info from www.fbi.gov." Kinda spooky. Question: are you currently hiding in a boat?

Posted by: t-bird at April 21, 2013 05:47 PM (FcR7P)

155 The Coke brothers want control of the little ones minds through propaganda. They are not Libertarian.

Posted by: BlueTip at April 21, 2013 05:47 PM (x8Iqq)

156 O/T:
Security Officer Fights Off Intruder In Shootout At Nuclear Plant

Weasel Zippers

First I'm hearing about this. Anyone else?

Posted by: Attila at April 21, 2013 05:47 PM (Cs2tJ)

157 @144 and the safe-seat GOP Senators will still have blow jobs and sharp-creased trousers under the Capitol dome. Abhorrent.

Posted by: Thorvald at April 21, 2013 05:49 PM (1V6Pv)

158 If the content that's now on Breitbart was posted on Newsweek . . . then, uh, yeah. We would

You mean you would pay for what's on Breitbart? When a lot of similar material is available for free on the internet? That's somewhat moot now that Newsweek's print edition is dead...but that's kind of the point.

Whatever you think of National Review, it's still the granddaddy of conservative publications. Its print edition has a circulation of 166,000 and, I think, at its height, 250k. By contrast, Newsweek at it's height had a circulation of 4 million. So, I don't think this business model would work.

Posted by: AD at April 21, 2013 05:49 PM (2EBtf)

159 A few more photos from Florida. Nose art.

http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2013/04/florida-nose-art.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 05:50 PM (ZZGff)

160
I heard something yesterday that was a bit upsetting. I'm not even sure if it's true, but he said all the dogs used to help at the WTC (911) died within one year 9/11.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 21, 2013 05:54 PM (Fely/)

161 I love mozart

Posted by: Truman North at April 21, 2013 05:55 PM (EsTrr)

162

AP,

I like those B-25s with the side pac .50s.

Posted by: ExSnipe at April 21, 2013 05:56 PM (PBm/l)

163 You mean you would pay for what's on Breitbart? If there were a local drudge or breitbart newspaper, yep. Magazine, probably not.

Posted by: t-bird at April 21, 2013 05:56 PM (FcR7P)

164 When is the Washington Times News network start? I wonder how many cable companies will carry it?

Posted by: CarolT at April 21, 2013 06:00 PM (z4WKX)

165 131 Will The Daily Moron have a centerfold? It's called page THREE! http://tinyurl.com/2546

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 06:00 PM (wR+pz)

166 #156 Hi, Attila. I read about this in the early afternoon.

Pretty unsettling.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 21, 2013 06:01 PM (GoIUi)

167 ExSnipe, for completely terrifying there are the gun nose B-25Js. 8 .50s in the nose and 4 .50s in packs. And if the top gunner locked his Martin 250CE turret forward, another 2 .50s added to the onslaught.

The B-25J Panchito looked to be the only Mitchell there with what looked like a complete top turret. Killer 'B' just had a plexiglass turret mockup with dummy guns.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 06:02 PM (ZZGff)

168 MY GOD ARE YOU STILL TALKING!?

Posted by: Hank Hill at April 21, 2013 06:03 PM (EsTrr)

169 166 #156 Hi, Attila. I read about this in the early afternoon.

Pretty unsettling.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 21, 2013 10:01 PM (GoIUi)

Thanks Miss M. Yes it is.

Posted by: Attila at April 21, 2013 06:05 PM (Cs2tJ)

170 Marco RubioÂ’s press secretary likens non-citizen permanent residency to slavery

Twitchy

I am so pissed right now I think I'm going to have a stroke.

Posted by: Attila at April 21, 2013 06:05 PM (Cs2tJ)

171 Hey gang. Been reading and "lurking" all week, but things were happening too fast, and I was watching and waiting". I want this (Koch's buy) to happen. And Trump buy more than just some TV "time". Buy a network. Why aren't the "r' or "libertarian" Billionaires in the game. Screw being "in the press". Buy the outlets. Be the press. On another note, I see handgun prices "regulating" after the "superfluous idiotic drama" this week. Still can't find ammo (at decent prices), but the hardware prices are coming down.

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at April 21, 2013 06:07 PM (mkb9H)

172

AP,

I have a great book about the 345th Bomb Group in the Pacific titled "Warpath Across The Pacific". They used B-25s with the forward gun arrangement you discribed. They also had a few with a 75mm cannon (I think) in the nose.

Posted by: ExSnipe at April 21, 2013 06:08 PM (PBm/l)

173 The police officer injured in the shootout Thursday night in Boston was a 2002 VMI grad (my son's alma mater). Their pipe band honored the victims.....

http://tinyurl.com/c3upr68

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 06:08 PM (X6akg)

174 Understand, it isn't a crime unless defined as such. In a sense we could eliminate all murderers by redefining murder as applying only to one legged midgets as victims.

Posted by: H.R. Pufnstuf at April 21, 2013 06:08 PM (e8kgV)

175 I just want the Koch brothers to buy it to make the libtards heads explode. everything after that, like a more balanced news coverage would be gravy.

Posted by: Iblis at April 21, 2013 06:08 PM (Yd7xL)

176 i want my o.n.t

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 21, 2013 06:09 PM (QTHTd)

177 You want to make a print news magazine or paper viable? Go Fleet Street: sensationalist, filled with unsubstantiated rumor, scandal, and innuendo, openly biased, with a highly sexually suggestive foldout on page 3. Scattered among celebrity scandal and other picayune bullshit would be stories that matter, otherwise known as the truth. For example, the truth is the First Lady dressed in what looked like a Big Bird costume at Obama's first Inauguration. If at least one newspaper or magazine had the guts or inclination to point this out, it would've sold off the racks. Taking it further, questions have arisen over the years regarding Hillary Clinton's sexual preferences. Headlines reading, 'Is Hillary Gay?' would attract all kinds of attention. You get the idea. Go low. Take it downstairs and keep it there. Save the highbrow think pieces for the National Review or Weekly Standard. Say what you want about the British popular press, but they know how to reach those we call low-information voters, those Americans stupid enough to believe Mitt Romney was a greedy rich guy cartoon who causes cancer.

Posted by: troyriser at April 21, 2013 06:09 PM (ptcFO)

178

Barky, Reid and Chucky Schumer will move immigration reform forward with the same professional expertise they showed with the gun control bill. "He's dead, Jim."

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at April 21, 2013 06:11 PM (4988f)

179 ExSnipe, two models of the B-25 were equipped with 75mm cannons. The B-25G and B-25H. 100 of each model were made. But they rapidly ran out of targets to kill.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 06:12 PM (ZZGff)

180 Here is Barbie III, the only surviving B-25H

http://historyflight.com/nw/aircraft_b25mitchell.php

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 06:14 PM (ZZGff)

181 177 TroyRiser,

Mitt Romney wants to make tampons illegal!

//Lena Dunham

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 21, 2013 06:14 PM (LRFds)

182 > i want my o.n.t the past week saw furious commenting 24/7 I wanna see the top 10

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 06:15 PM (8sCoq)

183

Isn't there a curfew for the ONT?

Who's driving this fuckin' bus?

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 06:16 PM (ByUxC)

184 It's a terrible investment. And it won't happen.

Print is dead. The present and the future is through multimedia via the internet.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 21, 2013 08:31 PM (GcwH1)]/i]

As others have noted, these properties (Chicago Tribune and LA Times) have established names, circulation measured in the millions, websites with huge amounts of traffic, and credibility outside the non-conservative community. Also, not everyone gets their primary information from the Internet.

So, your attitude is extremely self-referential and short-sighted. I would suggest that you are falling into Pauline Kael territory, except that the evidence suggests that she never actually said the silly thing that wound up being attributed to her for all eternity.

A major network would also be a good investment, politically (and, depending on the network, financially as well). However, the Big Three are not likely to be for sale anytime in the near future, so the Koch brothers would be well advised to take this if they can get it and wait for another opportunity later.

Posted by: TH at April 21, 2013 06:17 PM (tcvYF)

185 Jones in CO, me too.

I may for once not be in the Top 10.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 06:17 PM (ZZGff)

186

If youÂ’re not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.

Just because my fly isnÂ’t open doesnÂ’t mean that somebody hasnÂ’t set my hair on fire.

Posted by: Neo at April 21, 2013 06:18 PM (e8kgV)

187 183
Isn't there a curfew for the ONT?
Who's driving this fuckin' bus?
Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 10:16 PM (ByUxC) Otto

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 21, 2013 06:18 PM (/mGJa)

188 Toonces now drives a bus?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 06:19 PM (ZZGff)

189 Shitbag number 2 not doing too well. Now in critical condition

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2013 06:19 PM (+XS+2)

190 I am so pissed right now I think I'm going to have a stroke. Posted by: Attila at April 21, 2013 10:05 PM (Cs2tJ) Thank for that info. I have kept television off today and haven't read much except here. I am pissed off now too! What happened to Rubio?

Posted by: CarolT at April 21, 2013 06:19 PM (z4WKX)

191 troyriser -- Ace would agree with you 100%. I don't think a conservative could do it. Coming up with 90% of crap content and fluff in order to slip in 10% of real content, or as you call it truth content? Conservatives as a group tend to be too serious for our own good to pull off such a feat. The 90% of junk content would be too painful to come up with or our principles wouldn't allow us to exaggerate or make up stories.

Posted by: L, elle at April 21, 2013 06:20 PM (0PiQ4)

192 Maybe this was addressed up thread, but look no further than the Current TV sale to know how this is going to turn out.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 21, 2013 06:20 PM (dM1NM)

193 This is all over twitter....I have no idea who Amanda Palmer, except she's one sick fuck....

A Poem for Dzhokhar

http://tinyurl.com/cd2y2vz

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 06:21 PM (X6akg)

194 Shitbag number 2 not doing too well. Now in critical condition Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2013 10:19 PM (+XS+2) Time for Barky to donate a kidney.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 21, 2013 06:23 PM (fNpC1)

195 I'd subscribe to a conservative local paper with real content and coverage.

Even just a neutral paper! Here in San Jose, it took three tries to just to get the Mercury-News from stopping the littering of my driveway every morning.

Posted by: Whitehall at April 21, 2013 06:24 PM (1+mGd)

196 Also: remember whatsisname's law. The liberal shits would take Koch's money and keep running a liberal shit paper.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 21, 2013 06:27 PM (Giu2i)

197 so is this the ONT?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 21, 2013 06:28 PM (piMMO)

198 Shitbag number 2 not doing too well. Now in critical condition Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2013 10:19 PM (+XS+2) I have Drudge open, where did you see that?

Posted by: CarolT at April 21, 2013 06:30 PM (z4WKX)

199 Marco RubioÂ’s press secretary likens non-citizen permanent residency toslavery Twitchy I am so pissed right now I think I'm going to have a stroke. *** Yes. This, following immediately behind the Geraldo tweet, made my blood pressure soar.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 21, 2013 06:30 PM (piMMO)

200 Also: remember whatsisname's law. The liberal shits would take Koch's money and keep running a liberal shit paper.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 21, 2013 10:27 PM (Giu2i)

O'Sullivan.

Posted by: cm9000 at April 21, 2013 06:31 PM (vfB2N)

201 must be

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 06:31 PM (8sCoq)

202 The TVA nuclear plant shooter came by boat.
http://tinyurl.com/cagte9l

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 06:32 PM (ZZGff)

203 >Al Michaels' U-turn led to arrest on DUI allegations, police say Do you believe in martinis? YES!!

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 06:34 PM (8sCoq)

204 202 The TVA nuclear plant shooter came by boat. http://tinyurl.com/cagte9l Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 10:32 PM (ZZGff) Stricter boat control is needed.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 06:34 PM (GEICT)

205 Marco RubioÂ’s press secretary likens non-citizen permanent residency toslavery Actually, the arguments for illegal immigration (they're doing the work citizens won't do) were EXACTLY those made to justify slavery. I'll support ANY immigration proposal that Schumer hates.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 21, 2013 06:34 PM (xSegX)

206 The 90% of junk content would be too painful to come up with or our principles wouldn't allow us to exaggerate or make up stories. Posted by: L, elle at April 21, 2013 10:20 PM (0PiQ4) What principles are you referring to? And who said anything about exaggerating or making stuff up? Our political opponents are, by and large, an army of Anthony Weiners, a target-rich environment if ever there was one. It's just that no one on the right is digging into their lives, looking for the good stuff. Those reporters we used to call investigative journalists are currently on hiatus (unless a Republican is involved) or actively shilling for the other team. Any principles that get in the way of defeating these Marxist weasels need to be reconsidered. While we're playing by the Marquis de Queensbury rules, the boys from Chicago are taking the good Marquis to the alley out back, beating him with pipes, and stuffing his body in the trunk for later disposal.

Posted by: troyriser at April 21, 2013 06:35 PM (ptcFO)

207 193 A Poem for Dzhokhar This made me want to puke.

Posted by: Dinah Lord at April 21, 2013 06:35 PM (46UXb)

208 195 I'd subscribe to a conservative local paper with real content and coverage. Even just a neutral paper! Here in San Jose, it took three tries to just to get the Mercury-News from stopping the littering of my driveway every morning. Posted by: Whitehall at April 21, 2013 10:24 PM (1+mGd) Shit, the Roanoke Times is more liberal than the New York Times, and they are proud of it. This paper will print any story that could even remotely damage a Republican, but it has been well over a decade since they even attempted a story into corruption in the local city government, and trust me, with no oversight by our media, our government makes Chicago look "clean". It pisses me off knowing how much BS is printed and is accepted as the truth. I've had stories done on me or companies I have worked for that had so many errors that I now don't even believe the MLB standings that they print in the sports section.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac for Twizzlers at April 21, 2013 06:37 PM (Zd/NW)

209 Fuck Geraldo in his puss filled nose with a burning stick. That guy is a waste of skin.

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 21, 2013 06:37 PM (/7Xis)

210 Seriously, where the hell is the ONT?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 06:37 PM (GEICT)

211 Amanda Palmer. Read her wiki. She is a professional attention seeking asshole. Product of MA public schools and Weslayen. Jokes about abortion. Sleeps with anything. Her basic libtard

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2013 06:38 PM (nH8jP)

212 >Seriously, where the hell is the ONT? they were taking it out of the oven and dropped it. had to start over.

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 06:38 PM (8sCoq)

213 FLASH --- BREAKING NEWS !!!

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) Â— A Massachusetts police official say the brothers suspected of bombing the Boston Marathon before having shootouts with authorities didn't have gun permits.

... No shit Shakespeare

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 21, 2013 06:38 PM (e8kgV)

214 Watching "Life of Pi". The scene where he's looking deep into the ocean. Whoa.....

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2013 06:39 PM (doBIb)

215 On fox radio. Said shitbag number 2 critical

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2013 06:40 PM (nH8jP)

216 "What principles are you referring to? And who said anything about exaggerating or making stuff up? Our political opponents are, by and large, an army of Anthony Weiners, a target-rich environment if ever there was one. It's just that no one on the right is digging into their lives, looking for the good stuff. Those reporters we used to call investigative journalists are currently on hiatus (unless a Republican is involved) or actively shilling for the other team." Troy, just look at the good work being done by bloggers on the right, most of whom get no compensation, and have to hold down a job to food in their bellies. If you had a genuinely conservative newspaper with decent financing, you could hire many of those people, and PAY them to do full-time what they were doing before part-time, and guarantee them a wider audience, to boot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 21, 2013 06:40 PM (fNpC1)

217 So the Russians warned us twice about that fuck Im sure I could read that poem on the stand of my assault trial in Boston and walk after beating the shit out of her.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 06:42 PM (5qa+L)

218 213 FLASH --- BREAKING NEWS !!! CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) Â— A Massachusetts police official say the brothers suspected of bombing the Boston Marathon before having shootouts with authorities didn't have gun permits. Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 21, 2013 10:38 PM (e8kgV) Obviously Massachusetts needs to strengthen their gun permit laws. Duh.

Posted by: rickl at April 21, 2013 06:42 PM (sdi6R)

219 Amanda Palmer is Mrs. Neil Gaiman. And I'll bet she would just HATE to hear me refer to her that way.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 21, 2013 06:43 PM (Giu2i)

220 I am watching Mad Men. ONT should be up by now? I'll look and report back.

Posted by: CarolT at April 21, 2013 06:43 PM (z4WKX)

221 So the Russians warned us twice about that fuck Im sure I could read that poem on the stand of my assault trial in Boston and walk after beating the shit out of her. Try again, and again

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 06:44 PM (bR2AR)

222 There is no ONT yet. It's 10:44pm

Posted by: CarolT at April 21, 2013 06:45 PM (z4WKX)

223 'Night, all.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 21, 2013 06:45 PM (Giu2i)

224 I was just thinking that, Carol.

Posted by: Truman North at April 21, 2013 06:46 PM (EsTrr)

225 218 Amanda Palmer is Mrs. Neil Gaiman. Posted by: Trimegistus at April 21, 2013 10:43 PM (Giu2i) How much would you pay to *never* hear one of the dinner-table conversations from that pairing?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2013 06:46 PM (qyfb5)

226 It's 10:44pm

19:44 here.

Posted by: Attila at April 21, 2013 06:46 PM (Cs2tJ)

227 221 There is no ONT yet. It's 10:44pm Posted by: CarolT at April 21, 2013 10:45 PM (z4WKX) It is SUNDAY! So maybe our gang is at a late mass?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 06:46 PM (wR+pz)

228 I am completely lost in this episode of Vikings.....

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 06:46 PM (X6akg)

229 Fuck it, i declare this the ONT. Somebody post some vaguely sexual link, while I go round up some war porn.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 06:47 PM (bR2AR)

230 218 Amanda Palmer is Mrs. Neil Gaiman.

And I'll bet she would just HATE to hear me refer to her that way.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 21, 2013 10:43 PM (Giu2i)

I have no idea who Neil Gaiman is either....clearly I've missed nothing not knowing these two.

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 06:47 PM (X6akg)

231 ONT too early, too late...whaddya a buncha Goldilockses?!

Posted by: Bugs derit at April 21, 2013 06:47 PM (I88Jc)

232 214 Watching "Life of Pi". The scene where he's looking deep into the ocean. Whoa.....

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2013 10:39 PM (doBIb)

Didn't think I'd like it, but overall I enjoyed the story and the visuals.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 21, 2013 06:47 PM (rm+Am)

233 The Left cares so much about epochs and movements. 8 year old boys are eggs, but a killer of 8 year old boys is something unique.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 21, 2013 06:47 PM (xSegX)

234 For those of you who have gone to my website and tried to email me, and couldn't, I changed it to a good email. All the important links should be working.

Posted by: Truman North at April 21, 2013 06:48 PM (EsTrr)

235 April fool asshole, US special operations forces kill Panjwai shadow governor By BILL ARDOLINOApril 1, 2013 US special operations forces have killed Abdullah Wakil, the Taliban's shadow governor for Panjwai district in Afghanistan's Kandahar province. The insurgent commander was gunned down yesterday during a nighttime/early morning air assault specifically targeting him in the village of Perozi in central Panjwai. Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2013/04/us_special_operation.php#ixzz2R9m5MYBd

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 06:48 PM (bR2AR)

236 check this out http://t.co/dEjR4q8aE8

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 06:48 PM (8sCoq)

237 Amanda Palmer is Mrs. Neil Gaiman. Posted by: Trimegistus at April 21, 2013 10:43 PM (Giu2i) How much would you pay to *never* hear one of the dinner-table conversations from that pairing? Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 21, 2013 10:46 PM (qyfb5) Don't all Gaymen kneel, at some point during the mating ritual?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 21, 2013 06:48 PM (fNpC1)

238 Amanda Palmer and her 'creative muse' sound like another Yoko Ono.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 06:49 PM (ZZGff)

239

>>>This made me want to puke.

Wander on down to the comments.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 06:49 PM (d0t/X)

240 So I'm seeing a lot of commercials for Injustice: Gods Among Us. Looks really bad ass.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 06:49 PM (GEICT)

241 Shitbag number 2 not doing too well. Now in critical condition Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2013 10:19 PM (+XS+2) This makes me sad. Sad that the shitbag isn't dead getting the barbed cock of satan.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac for Twizzlers at April 21, 2013 06:49 PM (Zd/NW)

242 *sniff sniff* Ahhhhh.....the smell of ozone late in the evening.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 06:49 PM (GEICT)

243 I am completely lost in this episode of Vikings That explains it

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 06:49 PM (bR2AR)

244 Oh for fucks sake is that the same Amanda Palmer who performs as cojoined twin with some dude? I mean get off my lawn, but I cannot believe what passed for entertainment these days.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 06:49 PM (wZbqz)

245 Truman the link in your nic is 404

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 06:49 PM (8sCoq)

246 Tami, your son is a Kangaroo? Good for you, I grew up with a VPI dad and grand dad, when VMI was our biggest rivalry. I am fucking old, Grandfather was class of '97. That's 1897, VPI.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 06:50 PM (wR+pz)

247 BTW, welcome back AP! All recovered from your gallivanting?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 21, 2013 06:50 PM (rm+Am)

248 Why would we need to re-invent the wheel? Get those assholes from BuzzFeed and Frisky to write 80% of the copy and do the editorials and some news stories the right way.

Posted by: Truman North at April 21, 2013 06:50 PM (EsTrr)

249 That explains it

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 10:49 PM (bR2AR)

Um...whu?

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 06:51 PM (X6akg)

250 the cobloggers really shouldn't leave us unsupervised this long ....

Posted by: Mindy at April 21, 2013 06:52 PM (wk9P4)

251 Tami, I enjoyed kicking Keydat ass every year

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 06:52 PM (bR2AR)

252 Jones, that's pixy's fault. Try taking off the Minx prefix. Or just go to Www. Thebristolcountyrepublicans .org Big mailing for Friday. Postage sucks ass. I'm making the mailing labels now.

Posted by: Truman North at April 21, 2013 06:52 PM (EsTrr)

253 The Koch brothers should hire a couple of guys from The Onion too, just for good measure.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 21, 2013 06:52 PM (BAS5M)

254 Teamsters Local 25 will be out in full force tomorrow morning at St. JosephÂ’s Church in Medford to form a human shield and block the Westboro Baptist Church from protesting the funeral of Krystle Campbell. The Campbell family and friends have already endured immeasurable amounts of heartache and tragedy this week, and deserve a peaceful funeral with time to grieve privately.

Westboro Baptist Church should understand that we will go to great lengths to make sure they don't protest any funerals of the victims of the past weekÂ’s tragedies, and that those we lost receive a proper burial.

Posted by: Jimmy Hoffa at April 21, 2013 06:52 PM (e8kgV)

255 Tami, the cobs are locked into Vikings

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 06:53 PM (bR2AR)

256 249 the cobloggers really shouldn't leave us unsupervised this long .... Posted by: Mindy at April 21, 2013 10:52 PM (wk9P4) *evil laugh*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 06:53 PM (GEICT)

257 249 the cobloggers really shouldn't leave us unsupervised this long .... Well, thank God we've got that new blog format we were promised would be here six weeks ago in two weeks.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 06:53 PM (wR+pz)

258 Obviously Massachusetts needs to strengthen their gun permit laws. Duh.

Posted by: rickl at April 21, 2013 10:42 PM (sdi6R)

That, along with closing the (though there probably aren't any in MA) Gun Show Loophole will lead to a sharp reduction in violent crime.

/liberal

Posted by: cm9000 at April 21, 2013 06:53 PM (vfB2N)

259 Is anyone here an electrician? If I saw major spark action when I turned on a light awhile ago, do I need to turn off the power or just keep the switch turned off til I can have someone look at it?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 06:53 PM (wZbqz)

260 Obviously Massachusetts needs to strengthen their gun permit laws. Duh. Yep. If you look like you or your distant ancestors are from the Caucasus region...

Posted by: t-bird at April 21, 2013 06:53 PM (FcR7P)

261 before there was a formal ONT, the last post of the day was an ad hoc ONT overcome improvise adapt

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 06:54 PM (8sCoq)

262 *evil laugh* Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 10:53 PM (GEICT) Shall we check out the liquor cabinet?

Posted by: Mindy at April 21, 2013 06:55 PM (wk9P4)

263 Throw the breaker off for the switch. If it is not already tripped.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 21, 2013 06:55 PM (BAS5M)

264 Tammy, spark in the switch or from a bulb?

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 06:55 PM (bR2AR)

265 overcome improvise adapt Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 10:54 PM (8sCoq) Complaining is *much* easier!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2013 06:55 PM (qyfb5)

266 Good for you, I grew up with a VPI dad and grand dad, when VMI was our biggest rivalry.

I am fucking old, Grandfather was class of '97. That's 1897, VPI.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 10:50 PM (wR+pz)

Yeah, graduated in '08. I loved going on football weekend and watching the parade with the bagpipes.

250 Tami, I enjoyed kicking Keydat ass every year .

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 10:52 PM (bR2AR)

I think everyone did.

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 06:55 PM (X6akg)

267 hmmm...

Posted by: Truman North at April 21, 2013 06:55 PM (I2LwF)

268 I think I am going to Puke, Fox is telling us how wonderful Boston is. Give me a fucking break. They are happy to be free, wish they would think about that at the next election.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 06:55 PM (wR+pz)

269 If I saw major spark action when I turned on a light awhile ago, do I need to turn off the power or just keep the switch turned off til I can have someone look at it?

Spark at the bulbous looking thing or the up and down thingy?

Posted by: Attila at April 21, 2013 06:56 PM (Cs2tJ)

270 Shall we check out the liquor cabinet? Posted by: Mindy at April 21, 2013 10:55 PM (wk9P4) *shakes keys* My dad thought he hid this from me. Haha.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 06:56 PM (GEICT)

271 Funny, now the link works.

Posted by: Truman North at April 21, 2013 06:56 PM (I2LwF)

272

Throw the breaker off for the switch.

This.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 06:56 PM (d0t/X)

273 This is probably the one and only Time we will appreciate Teamsters Local 25. The Campbell Family should be able to have Mass in peace. WBC protesters should be arrested and kept w/o bail. How many funerals have these jerks ruined?

Posted by: CarolT at April 21, 2013 06:56 PM (z4WKX)

274 Switch, and how would I know which breaker it is?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 06:56 PM (wZbqz)

275 Tami, I went to the Citadel, so you were our only patsy

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 06:56 PM (bR2AR)

276 A reddish colored gun? Stylish! [snap]

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 21, 2013 06:57 PM (BAS5M)

277 Tami, you have read my recap of the B1-B fly over at the Citadel VMI game, right. Epic!

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 06:57 PM (wR+pz)

278 If this is the ONT tonight let me say this, I almost had to buy a New keyboard at Lowes today. I was picking up some stuff at customer service and while waiting I looked at the paint department and they had a big flyer up with a woman's face on it surrounded by splashes of paint colors with this statement "Become Color Curious." And the first thing that poped into my head was the Ace's Salon takedown and "Liquid Curious." If I had anything to drink right then it would have been "Cleanup at the Service Desk" over the intercom.

Posted by: Picric at April 21, 2013 06:57 PM (G4wFc)

279 My dad thought he hid this from me. Haha. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 10:56 PM (GEICT) Any tequila in there?

Posted by: Mindy at April 21, 2013 06:57 PM (wk9P4)

280 Working here?

Posted by: Truman North at April 21, 2013 06:57 PM (EsTrr)

281 troyriser - you still here? I'll reply to your reply if you are

Posted by: L, elle at April 21, 2013 06:57 PM (0PiQ4)

282 The box should be labeled, Tammy.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 06:57 PM (d0t/X)

283 Tammy, your breaker box should be labelled.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 06:57 PM (GEICT)

284

Yeah, nice, my link is working now.

Posted by: Truman North at April 21, 2013 06:57 PM (I2LwF)

285 Conservative Monster. Still a bit ill but getting better. Basically slept the whole day away. Yummy soup is my best friend.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 06:58 PM (ZZGff)

286 275 Switch, and how would I know which breaker it is?

Do you smell smoke?

Posted by: Attila at April 21, 2013 06:58 PM (Cs2tJ)

287 link is good Tru

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 06:58 PM (8sCoq)

288 Hah, I have no doubt they'd love to outlaw electricity and have us all living in huts, for Teh Chirrenz AND to save the planet!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 06:58 PM (wZbqz)

289 Any tequila in there? Posted by: Mindy at April 21, 2013 10:57 PM (wk9P4) Ummmm.....no. Someone drank it all.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 06:58 PM (GEICT)

290 Tammy, well. They should be labeled. If the switch doesn't drive a major appliance, then they should say something in general, like front hall or bedrooms. It may already be flipped.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 06:59 PM (bR2AR)

291 No Musical Youth.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 06:59 PM (d0t/X)

292 Where are the Tshirts we were promised a couple weeks ago? Andy?

Posted by: Rats Alley at April 21, 2013 06:59 PM (7yx0r)

293 Tammy, the breaker switches are usually labeled by room or major electricity-sucking appliance.

Posted by: Mindy at April 21, 2013 06:59 PM (wk9P4)

294

Ace of Spades, now featuring 100% less ONT...

...get to bed sooner....

...spend *quality* time with your spouse...

...or just drink quietly in the dark....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 21, 2013 06:59 PM (AC0lD)

295 No smoke smell, it happened several hours ago and will it really say "one of the garage lights"?!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 06:59 PM (wZbqz)

296

Switch, and how would I know which breaker it is?

Use the list of which breakers control which outlets / appliances / rooms that you have written in pen or sharpie and keep in a clear plastic protective cover inside the door panel of your breaker box.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 21, 2013 06:59 PM (BAS5M)

297 Imma just meditate on this: http://weaselzippers.us/2013/04/21/a-little-golden-comfort-helping-out-in-to-boston/

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2013 07:00 PM (qyfb5)

298 Shit Truman, I thought Bristol was TN, not MA. You are in the heart of darkness.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 07:00 PM (wR+pz)

299 Mindy! Hey girl! I doubt they're labeled; this house is out in the woods, away from any sort of codes. But I will check.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:00 PM (wZbqz)

300 "one of the garage lights"?! Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 10:59 PM (wZbqz) No, but it'll say "Garage"

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 07:00 PM (GEICT)

301

>>No smoke smell, it happened several hours ago and will it really say "one of the garage lights"?!

More like 'Garage/Outside Lights'.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 07:00 PM (d0t/X)

302 Tammy, I'm guessing garage. If not, you'll have to trial and error it - plug a lamp into an outlet in the garage. Flip an unlabeled breaker - start at the bottom, small 20amp ones, check lamp, repeat until lamp is off.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 07:02 PM (bR2AR)

303 I grew up with the old Tribune of Colonel McCormick, which, as they used to joke, was to the right of Atilla the Hun. The Colonel had his manias, such as trying to introduce simplified spelling in his paper (I grew up think that "through" was spelled "thru"). The paper's motto, "World's Greatest Newspaper" was proudly splashed across the front page (which is where the Trib's radio station WGN got its call letters from). Each day would have a front-page political cartoon crawn by the likes of Robert Parrish, usually featuring a superbly muscled Uncle Sam rolling up his sleeves as he prepared to beat the crap out some hirsute leftist.

They also had their peculiarities in editing. I remember that the day Lee Elia made his infamous rant about Cubs fans, the headline on the Trib's sports page read:

ELIA TO FANS: KISS MY ASS

which last exactly one edition, until someone on the copy desk sobered up and killed it. Ah, those were the days!

So, if the Koch Brothers do buy it and make it a conservative organ again, it'll just be returning the Trib to its roots. In the meantime, it's amusing to see the liberal chorus chanting its horror at the thought of a paper breaking ranks.

Posted by: Brown Line at April 21, 2013 07:02 PM (T/4rm)

304 278 Tami, you have read my recap of the B1-B fly over at the Citadel VMI game, right.

Epic!

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 10:57 PM (wR+pz)

Nope....I missed that. Can you repeat?

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 07:02 PM (X6akg)

305 268 If I saw major spark action when I turned on a light awhile ago, do I need to turn off the power or just keep the switch turned off til I can have someone look at it?

What does it switch? Most likely, if it were going to cause a problem, it would have been inside the switchbox and the problem has come and gone, if it isn't smoldering... Hard to imagine what would cause that though, unless the switch disintegrated.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 21, 2013 07:02 PM (aDwsi)

306 Use the list of which breakers control which outlets / appliances / rooms that you have written in pen or sharpie and keep in a clear plastic protective cover inside the door panel of your breaker box. Posted by: Count de Monet at April 21, 2013 10:59 PM (BAS5M) I will do this just as soon as I can figure it out!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:02 PM (wZbqz)

307 Mero, somebody ought to bring #2 a "comfort wolf."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 21, 2013 07:03 PM (fNpC1)

308 Hi, Tammy! Wish I were more helpful on this, but the last time I did anything electrical was so long ago I don't remember anything I learned in the experience. My bathroom lightswitch is still upside down from that adventure. The wires were so stiff I decided to just leave it upside down.

Posted by: Mindy at April 21, 2013 07:03 PM (wk9P4)

309 274 This is probably the one and only Time we will appreciate Teamsters Local 25. The Campbell Family should be able to have Mass in peace. WBC protesters should be arrested and kept w/o bail. How many funerals have these jerks ruined? ------------------------------------------------------------ In my experience the Patriot Guard has solved most of this funeral protest bullshit. I've been to 2 funerals of GREAT soldiers who died in duty- 1 in Iran and 1 Afghanistan. >200 vets on bikes blocking all possibility of the families seeing ANY protest groups. Incredible job in my opinion, and all volunteers at that.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 21, 2013 07:04 PM (0tHG6)

310 261 Mallamutt, Mal you forgot about milking the bulls let alone the cows. It was hard work, strange work. Hard strange work Mal. I can't figure out why Bawney Fwank kept volunteering for the first part of the job.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 21, 2013 07:04 PM (LRFds)

311 Tammy, the other way is to plug a radio into an outlet in the garage, crank it up so you can hear it at the switch box. Then work your way thru.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 07:04 PM (bR2AR)

312 287 Conservative Monster. Still a bit ill but getting better. Basically slept the whole day away. Yummy soup is my best friend.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 10:58 PM (ZZGff)

Ouch, didn't catch that you picked up some bugs.

Get better quick!   Sluggor needs you!   = P

Though on second thought, he probably doesn't mind being frozen doing whatever he's doing with Moonlight Rain at the moment.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 21, 2013 07:04 PM (rm+Am)

313 309 Mero, somebody ought to bring #2 a "comfort wolf." Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 21, 2013 11:03 PM (fNpC1) Comfort wolverine.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2013 07:05 PM (qyfb5)

314 313 Tammy, the other way is to plug a radio into an outlet in the garage, crank it up so you can hear it at the switch box. Then work your way thru.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 11:04 PM (bR2AR)

Neighbors love this

Posted by: Truman North at April 21, 2013 07:05 PM (I2LwF)

315 Evening all. No ONT, huh? Oh well, this will do, I guess. *throws bottle against wall* There, now it feels like the ONT.

Posted by: DC in Towson, clean shaven but still funemployed at April 21, 2013 07:06 PM (jIaZt)

316 Anna did you make it to Pensacola? Did I miss the recap? (avoiding the web this weekend)

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 21, 2013 07:06 PM (0tHG6)

317 Ummmm.....no. Someone drank it all. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 10:58 PM (GEICT) What else you got? Anything good for taking over to Tammy's house and helping with her electrical problem?

Posted by: Mindy at April 21, 2013 07:06 PM (wk9P4)

318 Truman, that's a Boston attitude. You needs some elbow room.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 07:06 PM (bR2AR)

319 If I saw major spark action when I turned on a light ... Is this light part of a multi-light fixture? The bulb might have blown.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 21, 2013 07:07 PM (VZC6E)

320 There, now it feels like the ONT.

don't forget to remove your pants

Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2013 07:07 PM (BBWjt)

321 Perhaps the breaker panel is IN the garage?

Posted by: Attila at April 21, 2013 07:07 PM (Cs2tJ)

322 lights and receptacles are usually on separate breakers

Posted by: Bugs derit at April 21, 2013 07:07 PM (I88Jc)

323 *throws bottle against wall*

There, now it feels like the ONT.

Posted by: DC in Towson, clean shaven but still funemployed at April 21, 2013 11:06 PM (jIaZt)

*flips table over*

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 21, 2013 07:07 PM (rm+Am)

324 Honey badger, they don't do comfort.

Conservative Monster. Lots of driving, sun burn, not a lot of sleep plus a Red Lobster who's chef is known for being quick at lunch ...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 07:07 PM (ZZGff)

325 plus a Red Lobster who's chef is known for being quick at lunch ...

hmm.... undercooked shellfish?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2013 07:08 PM (BBWjt)

326 If the sparks came out of the switch itself as you turned it on or off, it's probably either a bad switch, or else the wire connections to the switch became loose and began arcing. Is the house of an age that it may have aluminum wiring in it? In any case, a new switch costs a buck or two. And they are very easy to change, once you are certain the circuit has been made dead by throwing the breaker.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 21, 2013 07:09 PM (fNpC1)

327 What else you got? Anything good for taking over to Tammy's house and helping with her electrical problem? Posted by: Mindy at April 21, 2013 11:06 PM (wk9P4) Let's see, a couple different types of rum, some vodka, some bourbon....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 07:09 PM (GEICT)

328

Who was wearing pants?

The Style Guide has something to say about those types.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 07:09 PM (d0t/X)

329 Bugs, if done correctly, but then it would be labeled. Garages usually suck, I think they let the apprentices wire them

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 07:09 PM (bR2AR)

330 When was the last time the ONT was skipped?

Posted by: eman at April 21, 2013 07:09 PM (71gyQ)

331 I'm not in the mood to think tonight so this won't be a brilliant commentary but while I'd like to see it happen to at least start getting some critical reporting out there like from the British papers, I don't know how well it would work. Conrad Black's former Canadian papers tried this and weren't nearly as conservative/libertarian as I/you/we would have hoped.

All the wire stuff is liberal unless you do major rewrites using your own staff and the press service allows that type of thing.

Commentary was fine with it being split roughly a third between conservative, libertarian and liberal-leftist (often as guest columnists but they also had e.g. Maureen Dowd as a regular) for the sake of balance. (Not that it stopped liberal-left critics from complaining about the "evil Right taking over opinion in Canada!!11!!" just like it doesn't help with Fox News even though, especially currently, it's not all that conservative.)

And many of the ordinary reporters and ordinary staff writers were still the product of liberal journalism programmes including an arts section that regularly ticked me off (although not to the extent of leftist rags in the city).

Posted by: andycanuck at April 21, 2013 07:10 PM (mGBy8)

332 I skipped the last 3 or so.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 07:10 PM (d0t/X)

333 Bunkerintheburbs

Nose Art -
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2013/04/florida-nose-art.html

And more pictures.
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2013/04/doolittle-flyby.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 07:10 PM (ZZGff)

334 CNN is running a pretty good special (thus far) on the marathon bombings.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 21, 2013 07:10 PM (piMMO)

335 *drops trou* Let's get this ONT started.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2013 07:10 PM (doBIb)

336 ProTip: If you use the radio tester, make sure there are no batteries in it that would allow said radio to continue playing after the breaker has been thrown.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 21, 2013 07:10 PM (BAS5M)

337 Let's see, a couple different types of rum, some vodka, some bourbon.... Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 11:09 PM (GEICT) I smell a party! Or is that electrical insulation?

Posted by: Mindy at April 21, 2013 07:10 PM (wk9P4)

338 "or else the wire connections to the switch became loose and began arcing" It's the garage, so there could be a big earwig fried in there

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 07:10 PM (bR2AR)

339 Weekly Standard's Steven F. Hayward:

If you had told environmentalists on Election Day 2008 that four years later thereÂ’d be no successor treaty to the Kyoto Protocol, that a Democratic Congress would not have enacted any meaningful climate legislation, that domestic oil production would be soaring even after a catastrophic offshore oil spill, and that the environmental community would be having a lively internal debate about whether it should support reviving nuclear power, most might have marched into the ocean to drown themselves. Yet thatÂ’s the state of play four months into President ObamaÂ’s second term.

Posted by: Francis Gary Powers at April 21, 2013 07:11 PM (e8kgV)

340 That spark thingy happened to me years ago when I was living in a ramshackle apartment. And I did smell smoke. Since I'm utterly ignorant about electricity, it scared the crap out of me. I taped a piece of paper over the switch labeled NO!, Apollo 13 style, until the landlady got an electrician to fix it.

Posted by: rickl at April 21, 2013 07:12 PM (sdi6R)

341 Thebreaker panel IS in the garage. No labels. No door, even. There is one on the left that is flipped over to the left and one on the right that is flipped over to the right, so can I assume that one of those flipped as a safety precaution and I won't fry tonight? Again,this happened several hours ago and nothing has happened since, other than I am a nervous wreck.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:12 PM (wZbqz)

342 Nope....I missed that. Can you repeat? Posted by: Tami at April 21, 2013 11:02 PM (X6akg) OK. About ten years ago VMI Citadel played in CLT. They had a B1-B fly over. The plane had been in town a week or so checking shit out. The game was in Memorial stadium, only seats 12,000 The entire corp, both VMI and Citadel were on the field before the game. We looked for the fly over. You could not hear him, he came over at about 1500 ft and turned on his after burners about a 1/4 out. I was at the far end and jet fuel rained down on me. The fucker had full after burners on, split the goal posts and then we thought he was going to run into the Bank of America building, 75 stories, 1/2 mile away. He sweep the wings back and was fucking GONE!. Best fly over, EVAH! I figure the pilots went to one of the schools, cause you do not come down that close.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 07:12 PM (wR+pz)

343

>>ProTip: If you use the radio tester, make sure there are no batteries in it that would allow saidradio to continue playing after the breaker has been thrown.

Pro Tip Duex : Outlets and Lights are usually on different legs. (In newer construction) The radio and lamp trick don't work on light circuits.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 07:13 PM (d0t/X)

344 I suspect that if the Koch Brothers buy the LA Times that they will have it cover the one thing that you'd think they would already be covering ... Hollywood.

Posted by: William Bradford at April 21, 2013 07:13 PM (e8kgV)

345 Throwing bottles, flipping tables....what is this? Bob's Country Bunker?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 07:14 PM (GEICT)

346 Isn't the NY Daily News part of the Tribune group? Or was that already spun off? The News was sold about 12 years ago to Mort Zuckerman. About the same time that Rupert Murdoch re-acquired the New York Post. And the two papers swapped political leanings.

Posted by: Fox2! at April 21, 2013 07:14 PM (+N4be)

347

Oh great. Tammy's getting electrical intructions from drunken sarcastic Horde People. This will turn out well.

Posted by: ExSnipe at April 21, 2013 07:14 PM (PBm/l)

348 chemjeff, possibly since it was linguini alfredo with shrimp.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 07:14 PM (ZZGff)

349 335 Bunkerintheburbs Nose Art - http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2013/04/florida-nose-art.html And more pictures. http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2013/04/doolittle-flyby.html ______________________________________ Awesome, glad you made it, once in a lifetime opportunity that.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 21, 2013 07:15 PM (0tHG6)

350 Now remove the fuses and insert some pennies...

(just kidding)

Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2013 07:15 PM (BBWjt)

351 Breitbart News has learned that the Saudi National questioned after the Boston Marathon Bombing had his deportation order records altered, rescinding his deportation order.

http://tinyurl.com/c54ufdw

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 07:15 PM (X6akg)

352 Newish house, but built by someone who wasn't a contractor. I'm liking the arced wire answer, cuz it's a temporary switch the contractors put in while they're working on the basement remodel.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:16 PM (wZbqz)

353

Pro Tip Duex: Outlets and Lights are usually on different legs. (In newer construction) The radio and lamp trick don't work on light circuits.

You and your fancy electical codes and licensed electricians and building inspectors and stuff.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 21, 2013 07:16 PM (BAS5M)

354 You could not hear him, he came over at about 1500 ft and turned on his after burners about a 1/4 out. I was at the far end and jet fuel rained down on me. The fucker had full after burners on, split the goal posts and then we thought he was going to run into the Bank of America building, 75 stories, 1/2 mile away. He sweep the wings back and was fucking GONE!.

Best fly over, EVAH! I figure the pilots went to one of the schools, cause you do not come down that close.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 11:12 PM (wR+pz)

O.M.G.!!!! LMAO!

Did everyone on the field hit the ground?

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 07:17 PM (X6akg)

355 Tammy, that's the panel for the whole house? Those breakers could have been turned off previously. This is a bad idea, but you cold flip the ones that are off, on - if it pops right off, then that's your culprit ( don't leave either one on). Personally, I'd pop the switch open then go in there with a lamp, then ring it out back to the box - but I'm guessing you have no idea what I just said.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 07:17 PM (S4AQU)

356 Posted by: ExSnipe at April 21, 2013 11:14 PM (PBm/l)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:17 PM (wZbqz)

357 >Breitbart News has learned that the Saudi National questioned after the Boston Marathon Bombing had his deportation order records altered, rescinding his deportation order. so this cuts Beck off at the knees?

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 07:17 PM (8sCoq)

358 325 *throws bottle against wall* There, now it feels like the ONT. Posted by: DC in Towson, clean shaven but still funemployed at April 21, 2013 11:06 PM (jIaZt) *flips table over* Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 21, 2013 11:07 PM (rm+Am) *pisses in the ficus tree*

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac for Twizzlers at April 21, 2013 07:18 PM (Zd/NW)

359

>>I'm liking the arced wire answer, cuz it's a temporary switch the contractors put in while they're working on the basement remodel.

Probably a bad connection at the switch or improper grounding.

More than likely they piggy-backed off of the switch in the garage circuit and did it improperly.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 07:18 PM (d0t/X)

360 Tammy. Or with flashlight in hand.

Turn each circuit breaker off. Go back in the house and see which room or what is no longer working.

Go back to the breaker panel and write on that breaker in Sharpie what you noted not working.

Proceed to next breaker. Repeat.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 07:18 PM (a8E3N)

361

*pisses in the ficus tree*

That's like plant rape.

Posted by: Ashley Judd at April 21, 2013 07:18 PM (d0t/X)

362 Jean, you're correct, I have no clue! If it weren't for the refrigerator plus not knowing exactly how to, I'd just cut the power off altogether.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:19 PM (wZbqz)

363 T Shirts coffee mugs, Andy?

Posted by: Rats Alley at April 21, 2013 07:20 PM (7yx0r)

364 I'm liking the arced wire answer, cuz it's a temporary switch the contractors put in while they're working on the basement remodel.

Do you have a Bible handy?

Seriously, I would just leave it alone until an electrician can look it over.

Posted by: Attila at April 21, 2013 07:20 PM (Cs2tJ)

365 Since there is no ONT so far: After a Bad Week, Something to Put a Smile on Your Face http://politicalhat.com/?p=2082

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 21, 2013 07:20 PM (Vk2pI)

366
/lifts leg

/pees

Posted by: the territorial soothsayer at April 21, 2013 07:21 PM (KeJAW)

367 So I guess this really is the ONT. So, who's gonna be the first to link a naked woman?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2013 07:21 PM (GEICT)

368 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=2086

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 21, 2013 07:21 PM (Vk2pI)

369 Bunkerintheburgs, took 135 pics or 400MB.

Plus 200MB of video. But there was such a stiff crosswind the GA pilots were wobbling every time they landed when the tree break cut off the wind. Wind also messed up the sound of the warbirds and their radial engines

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2013 07:21 PM (a8E3N)

370 Throwing bottles, flipping tables....what is this? Bob's Country Bunker? Ah, mister Cochran...quite right you are, this is a quality establishment! We must have higher standards! /drops piano on BCochran1981

Posted by: Brother Cavil, elsewhere at April 21, 2013 07:21 PM (m9V0o)

371 Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 11:18 PM (d0t/X) Probably, but it's been like this for 2 months. Anna, there isn't anywhere to write anything. Well, there are sections of 2x4.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:21 PM (wZbqz)

372 If you had told environmentalists on Election Day 2008 that four years later thereÂ’d be... most might have marched into the ocean to drown themselves.

Sounds good to me... what, they didn't drown themselves? Dammit.

Posted by: cm9000 at April 21, 2013 07:21 PM (vfB2N)

373 Oh, you said link. Nevemind.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 21, 2013 07:21 PM (BAS5M)

374

Tammy are there other lights in the garage, or openers in there?

If those are inoperable, the breaker has tripped and the rest of the house should be fine.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 07:21 PM (d0t/X)

375 Tammy, call the contractor and tell him to get his ass over there tonight and unscrew it or at least tell you what breaker it's on. He tossed up some temporary crap, and should unfuck it pronto. Tomorrow, he should some lump labeling that box.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 07:21 PM (S4AQU)

376 I don't know much about electricity. I know it exists because I get a bill for it, I just cant figure out how they make it go through the wires. ( stolen joke )

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 21, 2013 07:21 PM (/7Xis)

377 "alright, who pissed in my mom's bush?"

Posted by: Jimmy Fallon's greatest SNL hits at April 21, 2013 07:21 PM (I88Jc)

378 Brand New North Dakota News Anchor's first words were....

http://tinyurl.com/d3xofk4

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 07:22 PM (X6akg)

379

"alright, who pissed in my mom's bush?"

Sacred honour compels me...

Posted by: Will Folks at April 21, 2013 07:23 PM (d0t/X)

380 so this cuts Beck off at the knees?

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 11:17 PM (8sCoq)

I would think....

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 07:24 PM (X6akg)

381 >Brand New North Dakota News Anchor's first words were.... that was great

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 07:24 PM (8sCoq)

382 Not even an emergency temp-ONT?

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 21, 2013 07:24 PM (Vk2pI)

383 troyriser - you still here? I'll reply to your reply if you are Posted by: L, elle at April 21, 2013 10:57 PM (0PiQ4) Yes, L. Still here. I typically read threads in their entirety when I'm following one, either now or later.

Posted by: troyriser at April 21, 2013 07:24 PM (ptcFO)

384 Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 11:17 PM (8sCoq)

I don't think so. If I recall, he supposedly has something directly linking the Saudi kid to the bombings, or at least to AQ. The gov rescinding the deportation may actual give him legs to say, "See? Told ya so!"

Posted by: Country Singer at April 21, 2013 07:25 PM (WvcBR)

385 I should have called him right away, he doesn't live that far from me. I hate to pester him so late.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:25 PM (wZbqz)

386 I want my... I want my... I want my ONT!

Posted by: Computer generated person from the '80's at April 21, 2013 07:25 PM (Vk2pI)

387 I have my concerns about Beck- everything is the end of the world to him

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 07:25 PM (8sCoq)

388 Is someone have electrical problems? A good pair of wire cutters can cure anything. Swearsies!

Posted by: An Halibut at April 21, 2013 07:25 PM (fijRV)

389 FolksOFF

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 07:26 PM (d0t/X)

390 389 Jones in CO,

"wait 'til he gets a load of me...."

//SMOD '16

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 21, 2013 07:26 PM (LRFds)

391 bi-directional cutters, hehehe

Posted by: Jimmy Fallon's greatest SNL hits at April 21, 2013 07:26 PM (I88Jc)

392 Nappy prevaricated directly on an issue like this before the fucking bodies wee even buried? WTF

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 07:27 PM (S4AQU)

393 383 LOL

Posted by: rickl at April 21, 2013 07:28 PM (sdi6R)

394 Its about time some right wing powerhouse buys up some fucking media.

Posted by: Berserker at April 21, 2013 07:28 PM (FMbng)

395 Hey! Hey!
Ho! Ho!
The pants have to go!

What do we want?
The ONT!
When do we want it?
Now!!!

We're here!
We're beer!
Get used to it.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 21, 2013 07:28 PM (mGBy8)

396 Every thread should be an ONT thread. No rules. No ace. No trolls. Just us.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2013 07:29 PM (doBIb)

397 Okay, so if I go back down there and try and turn on another light to reassure myself that it's just the garage part, am I risking making it worse?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:29 PM (wZbqz)

398 Bleh! My tasty soup has gone bad over the weekend. = (

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 21, 2013 07:30 PM (rm+Am)

399 ::::Okay, so if I go back down there and try and turn on another light to reassure myself that it's just the garage part, am I risking making it worse? Yes. No. Maybe?

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2013 07:30 PM (doBIb)

400 Tammy, turning on another light won't matter. Hopefully none of them work.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 07:31 PM (S4AQU)

401 Amen to that, Bers, although we'd all better be prepared to support it with some dollars of our own.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:31 PM (wZbqz)

402 Never mind if you've seen it. One reason not to park in front of a fire hydrant:

http://tinyurl.com/bue2pef

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 21, 2013 07:31 PM (BVkEs)

403 The need for the ONT is Serious You Guys.

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 21, 2013 07:31 PM (JMmQ9)

404 Tammy, turning on another light won't matter. Hopefully none of them work. Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 11:31 PM (S4AQU) So if none, work, I can relax?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:31 PM (wZbqz)

405

>>Okay, so if I go back down there and try and turn on another light to reassure myself that it's just the garage part, am I risking making it worse?

Only if you switch the one that shorted or the temporary. But if the Garage Breaker is tripped, the other lights hooked up to that circuit won't work, either.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 07:31 PM (d0t/X)

406 @356 No. The corp didn't move, but the rest of us had to get that jet fuel off. I figure when they go to after burner it does not burn all the fuel they dump in the engine. I forgot to mention the fucking noise. Un Fucking believable! I was happy not to be a towel head somewhere waiting for a bomb to drop.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 07:32 PM (wR+pz)

407 Oh hey, troyriser--- I was just about to turn on music but thought I'd check if the ONT showed up. Give me a minute to write something up

Posted by: L, elle at April 21, 2013 07:32 PM (0PiQ4)

408 Who broke the blog? No ONT?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 21, 2013 07:32 PM (V1ZIU)

409 379 "alright, who pissed in my mom's bush?" Posted by: Jimmy Fallon's greatest SNL hits at April 21, 2013 11:21 PM (I88Jc) Guess who will get blamed for this, just like all the farts.

Posted by: Toby the Beagle at April 21, 2013 07:32 PM (Zd/NW)

410 So there's a Tami and a Tammy al-Thor?

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2013 07:32 PM (doBIb)

411 man y'all are really into your ONTs aren't you?

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 07:33 PM (8sCoq)

412 412 EC,

10 million guys named Juan and about 40 million daves

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 21, 2013 07:33 PM (LRFds)

413 Okay, so turning on the one that sparked won't burn the house down?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:33 PM (wZbqz)

414 413 Jones in CO,

I'm just pumped at the notion of possibly not being in the top 10....

I mean "really pumped"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 21, 2013 07:34 PM (LRFds)

415 Yes, there is. Tami is sweet and refined and very dear. Me, well, ya know...

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:34 PM (wZbqz)

416 So, when is the latest the ONT has gone up? I think all the cobs are over on Twitter.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 21, 2013 07:35 PM (Zd/NW)

417 All you Tammies look the same to me!

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2013 07:35 PM (doBIb)

418 No ONT, it's part of the new AoSHQ web site. You must have not registered or have a premium membership. I've been on the ONT for an hour. Right, pixy?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 07:35 PM (wR+pz)

419 Tammy, if there all dead, your good. Check around the sparked switch for a hot wall or smoke smell if its enclosed, but that's very unlikely. Push the check button on your smoke detector, the pour a tall drink.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 07:35 PM (S4AQU)

420 417 Tammy al-Thor,

are dear, sweet, and very refined ma'am....

Mom rest her soul couldn't raise me cute so she raised me polite...(after a fashion)

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 21, 2013 07:35 PM (LRFds)

421

Forgive him, Tami, he is only joking!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:36 PM (wZbqz)

422

Okay, so turning on the one that sparked won't burn the house down?

If it shorted, the breaker will be off and nothing will happen.

If it is cross-wired or improperly grounded and the breaker didn't shut off, you could have another incident.

Like I said, check the other lights that are close to it...porch light, outside light, mudroom...whatever is closest to the garage switch that shorted. If those don't work, the breaker is likely blown and the problem switch is safe until you reset the breaker.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 07:36 PM (d0t/X)

423 I say call the guy doing the basement remodel, ask him.. a) come fix my shit before you burn something up. b) WTF with the ONT, can you HELP?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 21, 2013 07:36 PM (0tHG6)

424 418 Ashley Judd's timely amnesia,

nah it's quiet...TOO QUIET on twatter.....

I think the Cobs and Ace are in a valu-rite coma

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 21, 2013 07:36 PM (LRFds)

425 We appreciate the Koch Brothers' interest, but we found that Al Jazzeeruh was a more suitable buyer, in line with our editorial policies.

Posted by: The Tribune Company at April 21, 2013 07:36 PM (U13jb)

426 We appreciate the Koch Brothers' interest, but we found that Al Jazzeeruh was a more suitable buyer, in line with our editorial policies.

Posted by: The Tribune Company at April 21, 2013 07:36 PM (U13jb)

427
a long time ago we used to have a "Shawn" and "shawn (lower cased shawn)"

no shit, that was her name

Posted by: the territorial soothsayer at April 21, 2013 07:36 PM (FC8Yl)

428 Tami is sweet and refined and very dear.

Me, well, ya know...

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 11:34 PM (wZbqz)

I'm going to save this and show it to people....so they'll finally fuckin' believe me.

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 07:37 PM (X6akg)

429 Sunday and drunk. Retirement is good, night all.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 21, 2013 07:37 PM (wR+pz)

430 you won't die without an ONT

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 07:38 PM (8sCoq)

431 All you Tammies look the same to me! Posted by: EC at April 21, 2013 11:35 PM (doBIb) You think they have it rough?

Posted by: Tony! Toni! Toné! at April 21, 2013 07:38 PM (Vk2pI)

432 OW! Double commenting! Double commenting! Palsied double-click on the send button. I didn't even think Pixy, the little Minx, would let one do that.

Posted by: A. Mindful Webworker stutters inadvertantly at April 21, 2013 07:38 PM (U13jb)

433 All you Tammies look the same to me!
You anti-Tamite bastard!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 21, 2013 07:38 PM (mGBy8)

434

Posted by: the territorial soothsayer at April 21, 2013 11:36 PM (FC8Yl)

When I was growing up there was a girl at church named Shawn. Not likely to be the same person though, I suppose.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 21, 2013 07:39 PM (wbeNt)

435 I was saving this for the ONT, but I haven't got all night: Orbital Sciences Corporation successfully launched their Antares rocket from Wallops Island, VA this afternoon. It was the first test flight of this rocket, which will be used to launch the Cygnus cargo ship to the ISS. The flight went off without a hitch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_b1R3NetAo It looks like a camera fell over at liftoff or something. It was a bit scary watching it live. At 2:00 in, tilt your head 90Âº to the right to get the proper perspective. The main payload was a dummy version of Cygnus, but Antares also orbited three small experimental cubesats that are powered by smartphones. http://www.phonesat.org/index.php Another interesting thing about this launch is that the Antares first stage uses two Russian NK-33 engines. They were originally built for the ill-fated N-1 moon rocket which failed to reach orbit in four attempts between 1969 and 1972. After the program was cancelled, the Soviet government ordered the hardware destroyed. The engines were hidden in a warehouse where they sat for 30 years until after the fall of the Soviet Union. They are a very efficient design, and today is the first time they were used to put a payload into orbit, after all those years (the engines are actually about 40 years old now). So I imagine some elderly Russian rocket scientists were also celebrating this launch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NK-33

Posted by: rickl at April 21, 2013 07:39 PM (sdi6R)

436 I'm going to save this and show it to people....so they'll finally fuckin' believe me. Posted by: Tami at April 21, 2013 11:37 PM (X6akg) I'll tell the fuckin' cockholsters for ya, sweet girl!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:39 PM (wZbqz)

437 I want my Ohhhhh Ennnnnn Teeeeeeee

Posted by: Dire Straits at April 21, 2013 07:39 PM (mCvL4)

438 I just saw a video where Lyndon LaRouche stated that this country is finished with Obama as president. Second look at Lyndon LaRouche? *ducks*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 21, 2013 07:39 PM (V1ZIU)

439 Knock, knock http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_vctg5geu/

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 07:40 PM (S4AQU)

440 What if everyone in the world except for those on this thread have disappeared?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 21, 2013 07:40 PM (Zd/NW)

441

You anti-Tamite bastard!

Just converted for the jokes

Posted by: Count de Tamite at April 21, 2013 07:41 PM (BAS5M)

442 I haven't disappeared. My liver? That's another story...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 21, 2013 07:41 PM (V1ZIU)

443 352 Now remove the fuses and insert some pennies...

(just kidding)
Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2013 11:15 PM
=======

Yeah..., but make sure it is a pre-1982, and not one of those cheapie copper-plated post 1982 imitations.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 21, 2013 07:41 PM (aDwsi)

444
I'll tell the fuckin' cockholsters for ya, sweet girl!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 11:39 PM (wZbqz)

Thank you!...us T's gotta stick together.

And with that....I'm out.

Night all!

PS....give up on the ONT....besides it looks just like this but with different shit up at the top.

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 21, 2013 07:41 PM (X6akg)

445 .What if everyone in the world except for those on this thread have disappeared? cool movie Threadageddon

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 07:42 PM (8sCoq)

446 Night, Tami! I'm so sorry people confuse us...you deserve better than that!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:43 PM (wZbqz)

447 All these Tammies remind me Parks and Recreation, where Ron Swanson explains all his ex-wives are named variations of Tammy. "There's Tammy, Tammie, Tamara, and Tahmahrah which is really pronounced Tammy. "

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2013 07:43 PM (doBIb)

448 Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 21, 2013 11:41 PM (aDwsi) Hammer I don't know if you saw my reply last week- were you the one with the Indian pottery shards in NC?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 21, 2013 07:43 PM (0tHG6)

449 Now remove the panties ~~fuses and insert some pennies...~~

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2013 07:44 PM (d0t/X)

450 Okay, good news is, none of the lights in the garage work. So I'm safe tonight! Yes???

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:44 PM (wZbqz)

451 451 Now remove the panties fuses and insert some pennies... __________________________________________ so this IS the ONT?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 21, 2013 07:45 PM (0tHG6)

452 So. Do I *have* to stay up while running the "clean" cycle on the oven or, now that it's almost over and hasn't set off the fire-alarm (this time), can I go to bed and not worry about waking up to a fire.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 21, 2013 07:45 PM (wbeNt)

453 447 .What if everyone in the world except for those on this thread have disappeared?
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Yeah..., and the rest are disappearing one at a time. Do not go down in the basement!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 21, 2013 07:45 PM (aDwsi)

454 Patience might be a virtue, but time is somewhat finite. Later, all. God bless.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2013 07:45 PM (sA52w)

455 Have we hit all the stages of grief for our ONT that hasn't?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 21, 2013 07:45 PM (rm+Am)

456 it's not even 10pm here

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 21, 2013 07:45 PM (8sCoq)

457 452 Tammy al-Thor,

Yes, but to play it safe shut off the switches and sleep light ma'am

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 21, 2013 07:45 PM (LRFds)

458 Okay. Here I am, troyriser. Re: exaggerating and making up stuff, I was thinking in terms of a National Emquirer type publication as a template whose content is mostly exaggerated and made up stuff. I dont know your Fleet Street reference. Also, I should have been more specific about what Ace has said on this subject. Do you remember reading a post of his about conservatives buying up women's magazines and starting up cooking and entertainment websites? Well, if you didn't, his idea was using a format that was 90% content that LIV's find interesting and then slipping in conservative messages. That was the context of my reply to you. I totally agree with you though. It has been maddening watching our last 2 presidential candidates insist on running "honorable" campaigns while the opposition runs the dirtiest and dishonest campaigns themselves through media surrogates. Its even worse than that though. As as soon as someone on our side starts to push back, we form the circular firing squad and insist that we must rise above the mud. We our own worst enemies. Maybe conservatives by nature aren't political creatures? Our lives are focused on family, Church, and work, not winning at all costs.

Posted by: L, elle at April 21, 2013 07:47 PM (0PiQ4)

459 Panties have been off. Bra is always on, though. T-shirt, bra, lacy anklets...my standard indoor attire, unlessin' I get the urge to swan about in one of my belly dancing outfits.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:47 PM (wZbqz)

460 It's not even 9 here

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 21, 2013 07:47 PM (/7Xis)

461 Okay, good news is, none of the lights in the garage work. So I'm safe tonight! Yes??? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 11:44 PM (wZbqz) You're probably very safe, but to be absolutely certain, you should remove your bra. A small spark might have lodged in the fabric, starting a slow smoldering fire that could overcome you with smoke while you sleep. Take the bra outside and hang it in the tree next to the security cam.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 21, 2013 07:48 PM (fNpC1)

462 452 Okay, good news is, none of the lights in the garage work. So I'm safe tonight!

Yes??? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 11:44 PM
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Seems so...., but those guys doing the work deserve a major ass-chewing. INSIST that they replace the switch...., no ifs ands or buts about that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 21, 2013 07:48 PM (aDwsi)

463 Hope everything's alright with the usual ONT'ers. It's almost like clockwork.

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 21, 2013 07:48 PM (BVkEs)

464

LUSE SHIT

(Why can't I have umlauts?)

Posted by: AoSHQ 2 x 4 at April 21, 2013 07:48 PM (d0t/X)

465 No one in the basement is disap

Posted by: andycanuck at April 21, 2013 07:48 PM (mGBy8)

466 >>>T-shirt, bra, lacy anklets...my standard indoor attire, unlessin' I get the urge to swan about in one of my belly dancing outfits. I'll be right back. This should only take a second.

Posted by: DC in Towson, clean shaven but still funemployed at April 21, 2013 07:49 PM (jIaZt)

467 And so ends another spine tingleing episode of "Electrical Troubleshooting" starring Tammy al-Thor with expert commentary by the Horde People.

Posted by: ExSnipe at April 21, 2013 07:49 PM (PBm/l)

468 Damnit Andy..., I told you.., but would you listen to me? Noooooo.......

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 21, 2013 07:49 PM (aDwsi)

469 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 21, 2013 11:45 PM (wbeNt) It fucking sucks not to have a husband around, does it not? I am by no means a prissy helpless female but I am SO on edge about my issue tonight! I can't imagine how you do it with babies to take care of!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:49 PM (wZbqz)

470 467 No one in the basement is disap Posted by: andycanuck at April 21, 2013 11:48 PM (mGBy

must be code.

Posted by: BignJames at April 21, 2013 07:49 PM (H9MGI)

471 469 ExSipe,

thank God my cousin isn't here....he tried to kill me with an electric corral fence once.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 21, 2013 07:50 PM (LRFds)

472 Hope everything's alright with the usual ONT'ers. It's almost like clockwork.

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 21, 2013 11:48 PM (BVkEs)

Was thinking the same. Even if Maet gets computer trouble there's usually someone who can step up.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 21, 2013 07:50 PM (wbeNt)

473 The worst electrical is always in light industrial buildings. Nothing's labeled, unless it's labeled wrong. And there's always some weird wiring shit. When we moved into our present shop last year, I found that one whole side of the building had outlets that were literally burnt and melted. Most also had outlet boxes full of sawdust (one of the previous tenants was a cabinet maker). Took me a week to redo the wiring before we could move in. 'sup jackwagons

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 21, 2013 07:50 PM (MBqvE)

474 "Another interesting thing about this launch is that the Antares first stage uses two Russian NK-33 engines. They were originally built for the ill-fated N-1 moon rocket which failed to reach orbit in four attempts between 1969 and 1972."

Fine engine. Just not big enough.

The American moon rocket, the Saturn V, used five F-1 engines in the first stage.

The first stage of the Soviet equivalent booster had thirty engines.

It turned out to be very very difficult to manage things like unwanted resonance.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2013 07:51 PM (gqT4g)

475 Only read up to #50. Figure anything I've got to say has been said by now. So I'll say it again.

Doesn't matter if newspapers are dying or not. For that kind of Koch walking-around money, buy them up, close the print shops down, sell off the machinery for scrap, write the whole thing off. Businesses do this all the time, gobbling and cannibalizing other businesses and spitting out the bones. Result? All those rags are gone sooner rather than later. Koch can play with the websites, which oddly enough are, and will continue to be, on an even playing field with any other person or group who can afford a domain name and figure out an anchor tag.

Posted by: A. Mindful Webworker, a man out standing in his level playing field at April 21, 2013 07:51 PM (U13jb)

476 Mike Hammer, you are not exactly helping my nerves, damn you!

Sven, I know not how to turn them all off. I know how at my mama's, I'm not completely stupid, I swear...but it doesn't look the same as mine.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:52 PM (wZbqz)

477

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 11:49 PM (wZbqz)

Have to admit that, even with so much that needs done, it's a lot like vacation to only have to think for myself and not five people.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 21, 2013 07:52 PM (wbeNt)

478 Seems I recall that the turbo-pumps for the Saturn made something like 60,000 hp, and I think there were three of them. Takes a lot of power to move tons of hydrazine in seconds, I guess...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 21, 2013 07:53 PM (aDwsi)

479 Huzzah for chemjeff and his ONT!

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 21, 2013 07:54 PM (wbeNt)

480 471 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 21, 2013 11:45 PM (wbeNt) It fucking sucks not to have a husband around, does it not? I am by no means a prissy helpless female but I am SO on edge about my issue tonight! I can't imagine how you do it with babies to take care of! Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 11:49 PM (wZbqz) I'd have made the kids troubleshoot it, if my wife wasn't home.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 07:54 PM (S4AQU)

481 Oh, are you away from the kidlets?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:54 PM (wZbqz)

482

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 11:54 PM (wZbqz)

They (and the dog) are splitting time between my parent and in-laws in CO. It's a lot easier to get a house ready to show (please G-D let *someone* want to look) with one person and a cat.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 21, 2013 07:57 PM (wbeNt)

483 Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 11:54 PM (S4AQU) I have to admit, I have been kind of spoiled in my life. My Daddy did everything for me, right up to putting gas in my car every week, and Thor picked right up where he left off. I knew how to do things in out apartment, but this stuff here looks different. There IS one big switch thing up at the top of the main panel, but it's hooked to this thing that I've not ever seen before and I am a-skeert to mess with it,

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:58 PM (wZbqz)

484 Polli, sounds like I missed some major news! Are you moving?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 07:59 PM (wZbqz)

485 Tammy, that's the master - but not touching anything isn't a bad policy with electricity

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 08:00 PM (S4AQU)

486

From Kos' ONT:

Monday marks the 43rd anniversary of Earth Day. Just as for the first Earth Day in 1970, people across the planet will voice their concerns for Mother Earth. This year, the theme is "The Face of Climate Change." The organizers of the Earth Day Network have been gathering faces, of humans and other animals, to bring attention to the crisis of our time: global warming. The mosaic of faces with be available Monday on line and at thousands of events worldwide.

Here is my face:

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 21, 2013 08:03 PM (BAS5M)

487 Orbital Sciences Corporation... Thanks for the report, as always, rickl. 40yo Ruskie rockets. That's American enterprise at work, right?

Posted by: A. Mindful Webworker remembers the Mercury days at April 21, 2013 08:03 PM (U13jb)

488 Thank you, Jean. I have to believe I am probably okay. Plus if I turn everything off, I am not sure what happens to my well pump. I don't want to worry about that, either.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 08:05 PM (wZbqz)

489

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 11:59 PM (wZbqz)

Going to Texas. Sister and her husband just put a contract on a house in Fresno, TX and will be moving there from Fresno, CA with my grandparents and an aunt. Entire family thought I was crazy when I said the kids and I were going. Now they'll be there before me.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 21, 2013 08:05 PM (wbeNt)

490 "I'm liking the arced wire answer, cuz it's a temporary switch the contractors put in while they're working on the basement remodel."

Ah. "Temporary switch" put in by contractors that is making sparky sparky.

If this were my wife in my house, and if I were advising my wife by phone, I would:

-- Tell her where the master breaker for everything is (she knows, actually)

-- Tell her to pull it

-- Tell her to go spend the night in a hotel

-- Call the contractor in the morning to tell him his ass is thoroughly fired

-- Call an electrical pro to find and fix what the contractor fucked up

-- Send the contractor the hotel bill and the electrician's bill

-- Send the state contractors' license board a strongly worded letter

Seriously, this is electricity, and more houses burn to the ground in the middle of the night, killing everyone inside, due to electrical reasons more than any other single cause. Do not take any chances.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2013 08:05 PM (gqT4g)

491 Won't matter one bit if Rubio's amnesty passes. In fact, nothing will really. Then, it will be just a matter of time before the Left literally gets EVERYTHING they have ever wanted.

Posted by: Dan at April 21, 2013 08:07 PM (bxp5Z)

492 Maybe conservatives by nature aren't political creatures? Our lives are focused on family, Church, and work, not winning at all costs.

Posted by: L, elle at April 21, 2013 11:47 PM (0PiQ4)

The Left learned long ago how to establish organizational networks. Everyone has heard about ACORN, of course, but there is usually an ACORN-like organization in every state. In my home state of Indiana, that organization is called the Citizens Action Coalition (CAC). There is also an environmentally focused sister organization whose name escapes me right now. Point is, there are groups like these throughout the country. Supposedly, these groups conduct issue-oriented informational campaigns, usually via door-to-door or telephone solicitation. Public education isn't really their purpose. Their purpose is to bankroll those commonly called 'professional Leftists', who do quite nicely, thank you. These 'organizers' devote every waking hour to promoting Leftist causes and candidates. It's their job. They coordinate their efforts via a national network. Years ago, that network was informally called The Hudson Bay Network, but I've never seen that name in print. I just know it exists.

ACORN and these other groups are now being partly subsidized, usually indirectly, by the federal government, which is currently being controlled by people who have, at some point in their careers, worked for groups like ACORN and CAC.

We have a choice. We can copy their methods or do something different yet equally effective. In order for a network to work, we need to actually pay people. Big believers in capitalism, we should at least understand that volunteer efforts can go only so far. Bills need to be paid. Children need to be fed and clothed.

We need committed operatives solely devoted to promoting those things we believe in. Romney's team of richly paid consultants were ineffective in part because, from what I've read, they didn't believe in what they were doing. You better believe President Obama's highly paid consultants are also deeply committed to their cause. Giving a damn makes a difference.

Posted by: troyriser at April 21, 2013 08:10 PM (ptcFO)

493 I disappeared and I've never felt better!

Posted by: Jimmy Hoffa at April 21, 2013 08:12 PM (V1ZIU)

494 ONT up

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 21, 2013 08:12 PM (BAS5M)

495 Well, torque, the thing is...... there ain't no electrical pros out here, per se!

And I doubt there is a licensed contractor in this county. The largest city in the county only has 1200 people, half of whom are likely illiterate and I don't say that to be mean, they're mostly old farmers. And I probably misspoke about the switch being temporary; it's just that it wasn't there before. I mean, the box and everything was there, but they put a new switch in it. Do you really think I oughtta turn it all off?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 08:15 PM (wZbqz)

496 The Left learned long ago how to establish organizational networks. Everyone has heard about ACORN, of course, but there is usually an ACORN-like organization in every state. In my home state of Indiana, that organization is called the Citizens Action Coalition (CAC). Posted by: troyriser at April 22, 2013 12:10 AM (ptcFO) Examples: The Progressive Hydra http://tinyurl.com/ctxa82a Lone Star Hydra: The Progressive Threat http://tinyurl.com/bmpzorg

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 21, 2013 08:16 PM (Vk2pI)

497 The largest city in the county only has 1200 people, half of whom are likely illiterate and I don't say that to be mean, they're mostly old farmers. Sounds great

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2013 08:18 PM (S4AQU)

498 It's Paradise! Except for the lack of, ya know, licensed electricians...

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 21, 2013 08:21 PM (wZbqz)

499 "Do you really think I oughtta turn it all off?"

Unless and until it's all carefully inspected by someone whose Spark-Fu is strong, I would definitely turn it all off.

I'm not even remotely a pro electrician, but stuff I have found over the years, even as a competent amateur, gives me nightmares. Electricity kills, if not rigorously overseen. Both directly, via shock, and indirectly via fire.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2013 08:26 PM (gqT4g)

500 troyriser -- I got that one from you. Honestly, I am a cynic. Isn't it too late for our side? They have been using govt to fund their fake nonprofits that were actually political leftist grassroots efforts for so long while our side just did nothing---- content to have won, resting on our laurels. We couldn't even rollback regulations when we won anything of significance. And, instead, just added to national debt and came up with our own govt programs. We're still doing the same as a party --- all the amnesty pushers and "sensible" gun grabbers that are on the scene now. We're the base, but we don't seem to have any power.

Posted by: L, elle at April 21, 2013 08:34 PM (0PiQ4)

501 Also, troyriser, I'm hitting the sheets. I will, however, check this thread in the AM in the hope that you hit me back before you called it a night yourself. Goodnight.

Posted by: L, elle at April 21, 2013 08:43 PM (0PiQ4)

502

To see the Sun here in Baltimore pissing on Owe Malley instead of carrying his water would be ecstasy. I'd work a paper route just to get the 1st edition earlier.

Posted by: OneIron at April 21, 2013 08:55 PM (CEI6/)

503 "The real problem is the damn J schools." This idea that you need to go to "journalism school" to write for a damned newspaper has to go. Can you name a truly great journalist who went to journalism school? Neither can I.

Posted by: Olaf the Norwegian Berserker at April 21, 2013 09:17 PM (3Yygd)

504 The Wall Street Journal clearly states its editorial policy as supporting free markets and limited government. It's the largest paper in the country. Sort of pours cold water on your theory of ghettoization.....

Posted by: Ajax at April 22, 2013 02:20 AM (6FGVd)

505 American newspapers are dying, not because the media has no purpose, but because the people running these corporations are incompetent fools. Nobody reads the LA Times anymore because it's DULL. They don't cover any story that's critical of the people in power. They've tightened the wagon, and will only allow the same tired voices a platform.

Buy up the Tribune Papers for a song, fire the deadwood, hire real talent, upgrade the equipment, and rethink the business model, The LA Times could be made profitable again.

Posted by: Richard Steel at April 22, 2013 04:31 AM (SUlmX)

506 conservatives do adopt that model, liberals insist on labeling conservative media outlets as conservative media outlets.

Fox News does not label itself republican or conservative, and they are not, but because they do not sufficiently attack conservatives, they are considered conservative by liberals.

These newspapers have a better than even chance to perform like Myspace did. shunned by the current readership, unable to attract new readers.

Posted by: vikings fan at April 22, 2013 05:35 AM (VirFg)

507 troyriser -- I got that one from you.

Honestly, I am a cynic. Isn't it too late for our side? They have been using govt to fund their fake nonprofits that were actually political leftist grassroots efforts for so long while our side just did nothing---- content to have won, resting on our laurels. We couldn't even rollback regulations when we won anything of significance. And, instead, just added to national debt and came up with our own govt programs. We're still doing the same as a party --- all the amnesty pushers and "sensible" gun grabbers that are on the scene now.

We're the base, but we don't seem to have any power.

Posted by: L, elle at April 22, 2013 12:34 AM (0PiQ4)

I keep bringing it up on this site but think it bears repeating: prior to the Civil War, the Whig Party fell apart and the Republican Party came into being because Whig leadership failed to challenge the Democrats over the expansion of slavery into the territories. Now the issue is socialism vs. free market capitalism, Marxist-derived collective authoritarianism vs. individual freedom and self-determination. The two approaches are irreconcilable. In the end, just as with slavery, we must be either one thing or the other. We can't be both.

The Republican Establishment thinks the conservative base must accede to their go along and get along agenda and good loser strategies because, well, where else are we going to go? We can remind them of the fate of the Whigs, who thought the same thing under similar circumstances.

Personally, I think we should form a new party and call it the Democrat Party. That way, we can swipe millions of votes from those same Low Information Voters who can't be bothered to tell the difference between 'Democrat' and 'Democratic'.

Posted by: troyriser at April 22, 2013 06:22 AM (vtiE6)

508 Finally, a smart move.

Think of all the money the Koch brothers wasted on the last election cycle. Buying ads to prop up the same media outlets that tears down conservatives.

How about we just skip the middle man?

I'd be fine if the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy "sat out" a few elections and just bought out media outlets. Far more bang for the buck.

Posted by: McAdams at April 22, 2013 08:50 AM (L/2Em)

509 106 "Finding conservative editors and journalists will be the hardest part, hell even moderates."

It will be easier to teach retired cops, firefighters and city employees to write grammatically than it would be to teach journalism majors to write honestly.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 23, 2013 06:25 PM (qvify)

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