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September 23, 2013

LATimes: Scientists "Struggle" To Explain Why Earth Isn't Warming
— Gabriel Malor

According to the L.A. Times, climate scientists are now exploring new theories to sell to the public to explain why their climate models -- which called for measurable and serious warming to be occurring -- totally failed to predict that no global warming has occurred for more than a decade.

Since just before the start of the 21st century, the Earth's average global surface temperature has failed to rise despite soaring levels of heat-trapping greenhouse gases and years of dire warnings from environmental advocates.

Now, as scientists with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change gather in Sweden this week to approve portions of the IPCC's fifth assessment report, they are finding themselves pressured to explain this glaring discrepancy.

Imagine that. Scientists being asked to explain why their science doesn't seem to be working out. The nerve.

Though scientists don't have any firm answers, they do have multiple theories.

I bet.

Ben tells me no news dump this morning and Monty says DOOM is out too. You may consider this another open thread.

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1 No dump???

Posted by: EC at September 23, 2013 05:24 AM (GQ8sn)

2 They're all open threads for us...

Posted by: Brave, Brave Sir Countrysquire at September 23, 2013 05:24 AM (LSJmV)

3 Of course it's still warming....selectively.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2013 05:24 AM (gqgiP)

4 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 05:24 AM (/PCJa)

5 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 05:25 AM (/PCJa)

6 Wow, their credibility is shot.

Posted by: Piltdown Man at September 23, 2013 05:25 AM (sOtz/)

7 I'm just spitballin' but maybe this points out the model is wrong.

Posted by: dogfish at September 23, 2013 05:25 AM (nsOJa)

8 Ben tells me no news dump this morning

SNF hangover?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 23, 2013 05:25 AM (/kI1Q)

9 Ben tells me no news dump this morning

*punches wall*

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 23, 2013 05:25 AM (uYaYO)

10 Though scientists don't have any firm answers, they do have multiple theories. They don't have any theories. They don't even have anything as firm as a hypothesis. They have wild speculation.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 05:25 AM (/PCJa)

11 Arctic sea ice extent is over 5 M sq. km for the first time this season. http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2013 05:26 AM (z9HTb)

12 This is where that classic quote from tachyonshuggy comes in. Something about the climate temps being affected would have to be on the magnitude on the order of the....sun.

Posted by: EC at September 23, 2013 05:26 AM (GQ8sn)

13 Ben tells me no news dump this morning and Monty says DOOM is out too. So things are looking up, then?

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2013 05:26 AM (zoehZ)

14 The Earth isn't warming becoz the scientist's didn't pay their heating bills.

Posted by: Bigby's Missing Finger at September 23, 2013 05:27 AM (3ZtZW)

15 Earth's average global surface temperature has failed to rise despite soaring levels of heat-trapping greenhouse gases So... maybe those "greenhouse gases" aren't quite as "heat trapping" as we thought? The 2nd Law mocks your Anthropogenic Global Warming.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 05:27 AM (/PCJa)

16 I'm just spitballin' but maybe this points out the model is wrong.

The jackass who sits behind me says that's not possible because there's a consensus.

He's a systems engineer. Don't ever ride in a helicopter he's worked on.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 23, 2013 05:27 AM (/kI1Q)

17 Or here's another, maybe the original hypothesis was wrong. Just brainstormin'.

Posted by: dogfish at September 23, 2013 05:27 AM (nsOJa)

18 "....climate scientists are now exploring new theories to sell to the public...." Like a snake-oil salesman?

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 23, 2013 05:27 AM (bCEmE)

19 I thought the science was settled?

Posted by: Matt S. at September 23, 2013 05:28 AM (PDTch)

20 Because yo Mama. That's why.

Oh, and racism.

Posted by: A credible Government Scientist at September 23, 2013 05:28 AM (/w4pj)

21 "....climate scientists are now exploring new theories to sell to the public...."

I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and by gum it put them on the map!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 23, 2013 05:28 AM (/kI1Q)

22 Could the reason global warming prophecies of doom aren't working out be the same reason my investment in that Ponzi scheme isn't working out?

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 23, 2013 05:29 AM (ee9LE)

23 He's a systems engineer. Don't ever ride in a helicopter he's worked on. Oh, gawd. You should ask him if the "science was settled" when a "consensus of scientists" believed in Ptolemaic physics.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 05:29 AM (/PCJa)

24 One of the multiple theories is that Al Gore's movements has spread super-cooling effects around the globe whenever he talks up global warming, so in order to get the effects they want, Gore needs to be locked up for at least three decades.

Posted by: Bigby's Missing Finger at September 23, 2013 05:29 AM (3ZtZW)

25 There were some "scientists" that were surmising that the oceans were trapping the heat but the oceans aren't warming either, then they surmised the heat was being transported to the bottom of the ocean where they can't measure, well isn't that convenient. What total bullshit artist these pricks are.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 05:29 AM (6v9FO)

26 At least when you get robbed directly at gunpoint, you know what you're up against.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 23, 2013 05:30 AM (WjLUf)

27 My "sacred honor" line is more believable than these guys' "credibility."

Posted by: Will Folks at September 23, 2013 05:30 AM (/PCJa)

28 Went into a 7-11 in Alexandria Va this morning and as soon as I walking infront of the door was a display. And, on this desplay was 2 pizza boxes and a sign advertising Pizza's for 5.55 on YOUR EBT card. I was all I could do to bite my tongue.

Posted by: wrg500 at September 23, 2013 05:30 AM (jShXB)

29 "....climate scientists are now exploring new theories to sell to the public...."

We need $50 billion to study the discrepancy between our theory and the errors in the real world.

Posted by: Pretty much any SMRT pagan believer in climate change at September 23, 2013 05:31 AM (hO9ad)

30 climate scientists are now dumping hopperfuls of random-ass variables into SPSS to generate their cool kid tenure article in the next issue of "Bullshit Quarterly" ~~exploring new theories to sell to the public~~ FTFY

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 23, 2013 05:31 AM (659DL)

31 The real reason is that Obama is so cool it all balances out.

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 23, 2013 05:33 AM (ee9LE)

32 There were some "scientists" that were surmising that the oceans were trapping the heat but the oceans aren't warming either, then they surmised the heat was being transported to the bottom of the ocean where they can't measure, well isn't that convenient.

What total bullshit artist these pricks are.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 09:29 AM (6v9FO)

Riiiight....

The heat is just sinking to the bottom of the ocean like an anchor? Hahaha...that's funny!!!

Next they'll tell us that cold rises.

Posted by: EC at September 23, 2013 05:33 AM (GQ8sn)

It's the racists' fault. See, population isn't growing as fast as it should be, and minorities are supposed to be faster growing. Minorities have darker skin, so they absorb more heat than the oppressive white race that is reflecting heat back into space. So, the models are right, except for the racist white people who are screwing up the actual data. /s

Unfortunately, I would not be surprised to see ManBearPig or one of his acolytes advance a theory like this, because it combines two of their favorite themes, global warming and because RAAACIST.

And the middle class.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 23, 2013 05:33 AM (sQ0LB)

34 And, on this desplay was 2 pizza boxes and a sign advertising Pizza's for 5.55 on YOUR EBT card. Meh. Unless they have a cheaper price for the EBT folks than everyone else, I don't really have a problem with people on EBT buying Pizza. From a nutrition standpoint (in moderation- but get real), pizza is kind of a miracle food. Vegetables, carbs, dairy, & protein all in one nice package. Would I rather they buy the stuff and at least be forced to make the pizza at home? Yeah. But I'd rather not be footing the bill for their food in the first place.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 05:33 AM (/PCJa)

35 Doom is out? Doom is out?!?!?!?!?!?!

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 23, 2013 05:33 AM (VtjlW)

36 See, population isn't growing as fast as it should be, and minorities are supposed to be faster growing.

No they're not.

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at September 23, 2013 05:35 AM (/kI1Q)

37 Wow. There is growing speculation that the attack in Kenya was led by a white, British woman who was married to one of the 7/7 suicide bombers in the UK. She is know as the White Widow.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2013 05:35 AM (g1DWB)

38 From Talking Points Memo Aide Says McCain 'F*cking Hates Cruz' "In the piece by Jason Zengerle, an unnamed adviser to McCain explained the Arizona senator's aversion to Cruz. "He fucking hates Cruz," the adviser told Zengerle. "He's just offended by his style." But Cruz made it clear that he's no fan of McCain either with a thinly veiled shot at the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. "I don't know a conservative who didn't feel embarrassed voting in 2006 or 2008," Cruz said. "I think the Republican Party lost its way. We didn't stand for the principles we're supposed to believe in." http://tinyurl.com/pu3wxm8

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 23, 2013 05:35 AM (bCEmE)

can haz p-shop ov happy polar bear?

srsly tho - they were always attempting to bum everybody out about 'loss of habitat' and crap - shouldn't they be celebrating rather be all bummed out?

Posted by: Bigby's Missing Finger at September 23, 2013 05:35 AM (3ZtZW)

40 >>> The jackass who sits behind me says that's not possible because there's a consensus. That's why people remember Edison. He had a consensus.

Posted by: Charles Steinmetz at September 23, 2013 05:36 AM (z9HTb)

41 Doom is out? Doom is out?!?!?!?!?!?! Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 23, 2013 09:33 AM (VtjlW)
Have no fear ma'am, DOOM continues apace. It merely flies under the radar this week.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 23, 2013 05:36 AM (mJEtb)

42 Went into a 7-11 in Alexandria Va this morning and as soon as I walking infront of the door was a display. And, on this desplay was 2 pizza boxes and a sign advertising Pizza's for 5.55 on YOUR EBT card. I was all I could do to bite my tongue. At least pizza is food. I was expecting you to say 5.55 on your EBT card for a SS card.

Posted by: blaster at September 23, 2013 05:36 AM (W6bkf)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 09:25 AM (/PCJa)

Modeling is not science, I'll say it.

It has far to much ability to be influenced by the experimenter to even approach science.

And keep in mind, all science has this problem, but modeling is that far out of the bounds of "acceptable" as to not be science anymore.

That's not just my opinion, I'm claiming expertise on my somewhat fake credentials! (Can I write for the WSJ now?)

BTW, congrats Allen, Can I borrow $100?

Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 23, 2013 05:36 AM (GaqMa)

44 @32 Everyone knows that cold rises and heat falls its right there in the new common core curriculum right next the fact that the democrats freed the slaves and the second amendment only applies to single shot muskets.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 05:37 AM (6v9FO)

45 36 See, population isn't growing as fast as it should be, and minorities are supposed to be faster growing.

No they're not.

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at September 23, 2013 09:35 AM (/kI1Q)

You're crossing the liberal streams! You know what happens when you do that, the hypocrisy is exposed, people think for themselves, mass capitalism! The entire leftist movement will be undercut! Shut up already!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 23, 2013 05:37 AM (sQ0LB)

46 You know, for most people, if you found some evidence that some calamitous event wasn't going to happen, you'd rejoice. Sort of like finding out that your lab results were mixed up and you mistakenly got a cancer diagnosis belonging to someone else - you sure wouldn't insist upon a course of chemotherapy treatment in spite of this new evidence, would you?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at September 23, 2013 05:37 AM (nnkXw)

47 srsly tho - they were always attempting to bum everybody out about 'loss of habitat' and crap - shouldn't they be celebrating rather be all bummed out? This is actually a good point. If they were *really* worried about the environment, they wouldn't be looking to "explain the discrepancy," they'd be jubilant that they were wrong. "Yay! We've proven that not to be the problem!" they'd say. But the environment was never the point. Money was. And if the "crisis" goes away, their funding dries up. Thus they *must* find a way to "prove" that Human beings are destroying the planet.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 05:38 AM (/PCJa)

48 I ws ina McDonalds in Tarrytown, NY, years ago that had a sign up saying that they took food stamps.

Posted by: blaster at September 23, 2013 05:38 AM (W6bkf)

49 As long as the LATimes is doing the "splaining thing, where the hell is that Khalidi tape? ...........cuz that might go a long way toward exposing more leftist conspiracies.

Posted by: ontherocks at September 23, 2013 05:38 AM (SAR0a)

50 Allen, congrats on the job offer and the raise. It's well deserved.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 23, 2013 05:38 AM (VtjlW)

Oh, and:

These "Scientists" are all in the pockets of Big Oil!!!1!

They are Teh Worse Than Hitlerz!!1!

And Imma make a commercial showing people blowing 'em up now. I am teh furious!

Posted by: Bigby's Missing Finger at September 23, 2013 05:38 AM (3ZtZW)

52 Global warming is caused by grant funding.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 23, 2013 05:38 AM (aDwsi)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 09:33 AM (/PCJa)

Heh, depending on what's on those pizzas, you may not be able to make it at home for that much .

I forget what it was, but I was cooking something, added up all the ingredients and it was cheaper to buy it premade .

Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 23, 2013 05:38 AM (GaqMa)

54 BTW, congrats Allen, Can I borrow $100? Hit me up in a month.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 05:39 AM (/PCJa)

55 "Scientists struggle to explain..." This is when the really funny stuff gets trotted out. (See: Eugenics). The last "explanation" I heard was that all the extra heat was being "sucked up" by the oceans. With absolutely no relation to actual physics, that's going to be the theory. Watch. Someone will publish a paper, it will be stamped "peer reviewed" within 10 minutes of publication. The science will be settled, again, and, SHUT UP, give me my grant! This feedback loop is way too lucrative to ever be stopped. Science+ Government + Liberal guilt= Public/Corporate Dollars in unlimited quantities. That's really the only math you need to understand climate change.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 23, 2013 05:39 AM (EqSsW)

56 I ws ina McDonalds in Tarrytown, NY, years ago that had a sign up saying that they took food stamps. I was going to learn to type, but then I got high.

Posted by: blaster at September 23, 2013 05:39 AM (W6bkf)

57 Scientists Struggle To Explain Why Earth Isn't Warming Yeah, those aren't scientists anymore; they're prostitutes.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 23, 2013 05:39 AM (sFQyf)

58 The Koch brothers are hiding the missing heat to try and make us look bad.

Posted by: AGW "scientist" at September 23, 2013 05:40 AM (nsOJa)

59 Oh, and: These "Scientists" are all in the pockets of Big Oil!!!1! They are Teh Worse Than Hitlerz!!1! And Imma make a commercial showing people blowing 'em up now. I am teh furious! Posted by: Bigby's Missing Finger at September 23, 2013 09:38 AM (3ZtZW)
I remember that commercial.
Refreshing moment of honesty from the Left, that video.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 23, 2013 05:40 AM (mJEtb)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 09:39 AM (/PCJa)

I didn't get to say it in the last thread but when you throw the giant party, I can bring the homebrew (for the rest of the horde obviously ).

Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 23, 2013 05:41 AM (GaqMa)

61 Copypasta'd from the previous, now obsolete thread that y'all totes abandoned me in, ya bastiches; Well. I see Monday remains Mondaytastic for the Horde this morning. For our Crossbowist brethren, I found your backup weapon: http://tinyurl.com/n5et2on

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Honey Badger Shaman at September 23, 2013 05:41 AM (naUcP)

62 The last "explanation" I heard was that all the extra heat was being "sucked up" by the oceans.

Well, it just *might* get conveyed towards the bottom by some of the conveyor-belt ocean currents and been seen later as the currents loop back over. Or as we scientists call it, convection.

But without any actual data to support that hypothesis, it's just so much bullshit.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 23, 2013 05:41 AM (FvyJS)

63 What the hell are taxpayers supposed to do with a shitload of worthless tree ring data? We need jobs and healthcare and economic growth.

Barry and his cronies only have three and a half more years to hunker down and save us from those mean, nasty banana republicans.

Posted by: Fritz at September 23, 2013 05:41 AM (oBz1n)

64 Would any of this help NRO's lawsuit with Mann? I mean, he's claiming defamation, right?

Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at September 23, 2013 05:41 AM (p7BzH)

65 "Yeah, those aren't scientists anymore; they're prostitutes."

$cience!

Posted by: Thomas Dolby at September 23, 2013 05:42 AM (4I3Uo)

66 Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 23, 2013 09:38 AM (GaqMa) That's true. Economy of scale really does factor in to the pizza making business. We buy pepperoni pizza from Aldi- a huge pizza- and it costs $6. If I tried to make one of the same size at home- especially if you include time as part of the cost- it would cost at least as much to make. Yeah, I don't have a problem with folks on EBT or SNAP or whatever buying Pizza. At least it's real food with some nutritional value. I *do* think that most candy should be off limits. If you're on EBT/SNAP, you don't need that bag of M&Ms.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 05:42 AM (/PCJa)

Posted by: wrg500 at September 23, 2013 09:30 AM (jShXB)

Well, guess I'll scratch Alexandria off as a place to retire.

"....climate scientists are now exploring new theories to sell to the public...."

We've got to protect our phoney-baloney tenure, gentlemen! Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!

**looks in AllenG's direction**

I didn't get a "Harrumph!" from that guy. . .

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 23, 2013 05:42 AM (zF6Iw)

68 I was in a Dunkin Donuts in Scranton once and the signs were all written with a slight Indian accent.

Posted by: Slow Joe Biden at September 23, 2013 05:42 AM (LSJmV)

69 The green movement has been so utterly discredited by communists and other authoritarians that you really can't trust anyone who doesn't explicitly advocate gratuitous pollution.

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at September 23, 2013 05:43 AM (kxSZr)

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at September 23, 2013 09:35 AM (/kI1Q)

HeatherRadish, if we ever meet in person, remind me to buy you a beer for this comment alone. It's reward worthy.

(Do you know how many people call me crazy because I point out that PP was founded by a crazy racist eugenicist and is carrying on that same mission today? And I'm talking about people who should know better, not just my random LIV family.)

Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 23, 2013 05:43 AM (GaqMa)

The typical Liberal IQ Mentality of -3.7 would be the following: "See President Obama's initiatives are working to curb Global Warming and we need too do even more reductions like he says by starting with dirty,filthy, dicisting COAL". Yes.....Let's do even more so that we reverse the trend and have Global Cooling and everything dies......Yea....Yea....Yea..,thats the ticket !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Pippy Longstockings at September 23, 2013 05:43 AM (R8X+X)

72 I await a question being put to Carney..., something like: "Since the President's attack on coal really an attack on CO2, can you direct us to hard evidence that there is warming, and that CO2 has caused that warming?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 23, 2013 05:43 AM (aDwsi)

If the Oceans are sucking up *all that excess heat* then we've just been made aware of The Greatest Threat to Humankind Since Global Warming!!!!

THE OCEANS SUCK

Posted by: Bigby's Missing Finger at September 23, 2013 05:44 AM (3ZtZW)

74 >>> I was going to learn to type, but then I got high. Mavis Beacon & Kumar go to Whitecastle

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2013 05:44 AM (z9HTb)

75 Gore et al. say the science is settled. Settled!!
So who cares is the data doesn't back it up? It's settled, you guys.
...
...
...
Settled!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2013 05:44 AM (U6BWX)

76 10 Though scientists don't have any firm answers, they do have multiple theories.

Also know as "Desperately scrambling to save their funding."

Posted by: joncelli at September 23, 2013 05:45 AM (RD7QR)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 09:42 AM (/PCJa)

Candy and soda at the very least need to go. Frankly, Name brand stuff also needs to get the boot.

Lots of other premade stuff might possibly too. The problem is the intrinsic cost of trying to figure out "what is acceptable" and "what is not" probably isn't worth it for the government (or us, since the cost of enforcing that would fall to grocers, driving up our bills)

So it stays broken.

Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 23, 2013 05:46 AM (GaqMa)

78 I sure hope they don't catch old Samantha alive. Whore. I hope they torture and kill her on the spot.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 23, 2013 05:46 AM (T0Pku)

ZOMG SRSLY YOU GUYS

The Oceans are going to suck down everthing we've ever worked for in the entire evolution of Man! I think I need MONEY. A LOT, TOO. And I'll get back to you in 5 years to explain how to save us all!

Hint: It'll probly be Socialism.

Posted by: Bigby's Missing Finger at September 23, 2013 05:46 AM (3ZtZW)

80 OT..Park Services uses your monet to extoll virtues of Islam ....

Anybody want the contact info? for this cluster muck?

Posted by: Vlad at September 23, 2013 05:47 AM (PytgW)

81 Then President Obama should add more water the Oceans so that they can absorb more heat ! Let's invest $3 Trillion in new water in the Oceans with increased taxes through Obamacare for the "Children and LGBT Community" of course.

Posted by: Pippy Longstockings at September 23, 2013 05:47 AM (3lMGK)

82 Hmmm. I dipped my toe into a Facebook post made by a friend of mine yesterday. I don't do Facebook much, and this particular friend is a barking Lib. I like her quite a bit, known her for decades, but our politics....no. Anyhoo, in the course of my reply, I said in an aside "And our government is getting more authoritarian all the time" and was told by one of her friends "I stopped reading when I read this. it's an insult to people who live under real authoritarian govts. You live in one of the most free societies in the history of the world. Blah, blah". And once again I ran head on into Proggy blindness. Most free? We were. More free than most of the world? Sure, OK. More free than we were at the start of my 46 year lifespan? Not by a long chalk, and how any rational person can miss that just boggles my mind. It's not even a R/D thing, one of the biggest infringers on our freedom is the TSA, started by Bush. I think Reagan had it right. It's not that our liberal friends are ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't true. Still, it's jarring when you meet someone who in all seriousness insists the sky is green. Here's what I wrote in it's entirety if you're curious, names redacted: Y'all miss the point. XXXXXX was implying how stupid it is to be concerned that someone is going to "take her gun", and yet government has the ability to do so, whats more, authoritarian governments (and ours is becoming more and more authoritarian daily) have a history of doing exactly that, in fact I can't think of one authoritarian government that hasn't. The concern that guns may be confiscated, maybe not today, but one day, is therefor based upon history and reality (and the rather inconvenient fact that anti-gun groups and politicians have openly stated that that's their goal). Christians, OTOH, can do exactly what about someone's sex life? Tisk and tut and mutter disapprovingly? Tell you you're going to hell (while lacking any actual mechanism to send anyone to hell)? So what? And yet I see enormous angst and outcry about those confounded evil busybody Christians on blogs, Facebook, Twitter, etc.. My point, then, was likely versus unlikely possibilities, and how much time should be spent worrying about which ones. YMMV Oh, and what someone else said about Christians in response proved that my point went so far over her head it's actually amusing.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 23, 2013 05:47 AM (jt8G9)

83 AllenG is getting a raise? Cool. Maybe he can start writing a blog or something.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 23, 2013 05:47 AM (sQ0LB)

84 I got yer dump right here boy........

Posted by: Fat Bastard Rino at September 23, 2013 05:47 AM (xWW96)

85 Here is an example that will help people relate to why part of the earth are cooler, even though the earth is heating up. Imagine you come home on a cool day and your furnace is off. You turn it on but the registers are closed in the bedrooms. The hot air then all enters only the living,/dinning room/ kitchen areas. This pushes all the cold to the bedrooms so he temperature there actually drops. In fact, while it was cool there before, icicles actually may start forming. The more you turn up the heat, the more the cold is forced into the bedrooms and the icicles keep growing. I'm sure many of you here have seen this effect in your own houses. We have models that demonstrate this too!

Posted by: Climate Expert at September 23, 2013 05:47 AM (Vv4Go)

86 Mavis Beacon & Kumar go to Whitecastle Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2013 09:44 AM (z9HTb) +1 for the multimedia computing reference.

Posted by: blaster at September 23, 2013 05:48 AM (W6bkf)

87 AllenG is getting a raise? Cool. Maybe he can start writing a blog or something.

Naw, he'll just use it to buy more boilerplate to post here.

Burn it, salt it, boilerplate it, etc.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 23, 2013 05:48 AM (FvyJS)

88 71 The green movement has been so utterly discredited by communists and other authoritarians that you really can't trust anyone who doesn't explicitly advocate gratuitous pollution. Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at September 23, 2013 09:43 AM (kxSZr) That's for sure. As soon as the commies fell in early 90s, the euro commies went green over night. Changed their logo, too.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 23, 2013 05:48 AM (T0Pku)

Posted by: Bigby's Missing Finger at September 23, 2013 09:46 AM (3ZtZW)

"The only way to solve this problem is to build the world's largest particle accelerator, staffed by an army of Graduate Assistants, powered by dump trucks full of burning grant money!"

--Hubert Farnsworth

Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 23, 2013 05:50 AM (GaqMa)

90 HeatherRadish, if we ever meet in person, remind me to buy you a beer for this coment alone. It's reward worthy.

Woo-hoo, beer!

Seriously, I think that's half the racist-hate against Mitt Romney's new adopted grandson: they can't stand when any baby but particularly a black baby escapes PP and gets born. Coincidentally, last week I caught an episode of Law ampersand Order (shuddup, I know, I like looking at Benjamin Bratt) where a defense lawyer flat-out called interracial adoption "genocide" against black children. They really think like this, oblivious (probably willfully) to a real genocide against black children.

*spit*

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 23, 2013 05:51 AM (/kI1Q)

91 Oh looky here - Obama's fleeing the White House again!! It's like he'll use any excuse to escape the Oval office an actual work (the kind that doesn't involve pontificating in front of a camera):

11:25 am || Departs White House
12:35 pm || Arrives New York City
1:45 pm || Bilateral meeting with Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan; Waldorf Astoria
3:00 pm || Holds a Civil Society Roundtable; New York Hilton Midtown
5:20 pm|| Meets with USUN Mission employees and their families; Waldorf Astoria
8:50 pm || Attends reception for visiting heads of state; Waldorf Astoria

At least he got to sleep in - none of that 10:00am Daily Briefing harshing his Monday morning mellow.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2013 05:51 AM (U6BWX)

92 Hmmm. I dipped my toe into a Facebook post made by a friend of mine yesterday. I don't do Facebook much, and this particular friend is a barking Lib. I didn't, but I could have stopped reading there. This story has different authors but the same ending every single time.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 23, 2013 05:51 AM (sFQyf)

"I don't know a conservative who didn't feel embarrassed voting in 2006 or 2008," Cruz said.

Oh, SNAP!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 23, 2013 05:51 AM (zF6Iw)

94 79 Yeah, the figuring out what's allowed and what's not is really too big of a clusterfuck to bother with---the government really has shown that they aren't any better at choosing healthy foods than poor people. Look at the WIC program (which was actually found to be *causing* severe tooth decay patterns by encouraging too much juice consumption) the school.lunch program and the carb-tastic food pyramid. Besides that lobbying gets in---why elses are name-brand PopTarts and Rice Krispies part of these programs?

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Stupid Phone at September 23, 2013 05:52 AM (76VQV)

95 No dump, no DOOM no motor cars, not a single luxury...

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 23, 2013 05:53 AM (7ObY1)

96 Let see the track record :

Nuclear Winter -- bullshit
DDT -- bullshit
Acid Rain - bullshit
Malthusian famines -- bullshit
Peak Oil -- bullshit
Dietary salt -- bullshit

now CAGW -- bullshit

Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2013 05:53 AM (CMlD4)

They are seriously moving to a theory in which atmospheric heat moves down into the ocean.

You can't make that up. Well, they did, but you really shouldn't.

Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 05:53 AM (sOtz/)

98 Speaking of Planned Parenthood and eugenics - Zo took that on at the same time he smacked down Sarah Silverman and her racist Black NRA video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnWHC7B34Qw&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2013 05:54 AM (U6BWX)

99 If we could stop Al Gore and Barack Obama from spewing forth all their hot aire, the global tempreture would actually drop.

Posted by: georgeofthedesert at September 23, 2013 05:55 AM (Eq2MX)

100

>>>>Let see the track record :

Population explosion: BS

Depletion of select ores and minerals: BS

Posted by: Bigby's Missing Finger at September 23, 2013 05:55 AM (3ZtZW)

101

I sure hope they don't catch old Samantha alive. Whore. I hope they torture and kill her on the spot.

Well, it's either that or offer her an editorial job at the NYT.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 23, 2013 05:55 AM (zF6Iw)

102 Let see the track record :

Nuclear Winter -- bullshit
DDT -- bullshit
Acid Rain - bullshit
Malthusian famines -- bullshit
Peak Oil -- bullshit
Dietary salt -- bullshit

now CAGW -- bullshit

Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2013 09:53 AM (CMlD4)

Yeah, that sums it up nicely.

Posted by: grognard at September 23, 2013 05:55 AM (/29Nl)

103

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 23, 2013 09:51 AM (/kI1Q)

Gendercide, don't forget the gendercide.

Eh, it'll all be over soon, soft eugenics is pretty much here. I've been dissecting various parts of the intersection of the healthcare law and explanations pushed by the policy advocates and I have only one conclusion:

Eugenics, parts of the law (and the implementation of it at the provider level as suggested by groups such as ACOG) are based clearly on a presupposition of eugenics.

The people doing this are either a) willfully ignorant or b) liars (and honestly I can't figure out which, it is possible to eventually believe your own bullshit.)

Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 23, 2013 05:56 AM (GaqMa)

104 Would any of this help NRO's lawsuit with Mann? I mean, he's claiming defamation, right? Posted by: KG -------------------------- Probably not. The case will turn (I think) on whether Mann knowingly misrepresented data. I am certainly convinced that he did, but I'm not the court/jury.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 23, 2013 05:56 AM (aDwsi)

105

Dwindling air supply due to deforestation: BS

Posted by: Bigby's Missing Finger at September 23, 2013 05:56 AM (3ZtZW)

106 Oh, yeah, peak oil. Remember that?

Posted by: blaster at September 23, 2013 05:57 AM (W6bkf)

107 My brother has an ongoing FB conversation with a Lib Warmist, a physicist with a degree from MIT who was Valedictorian of my high school my brother's year. He loves the hidden heat theory, but can't explain it for shit. We just bat him around like a ball of yarn and he fucking can't stand it. He cites his credentials in every other post, which just cracks me up even more.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 23, 2013 05:57 AM (ZshNr)

108 I'm sure many of you here have seen this effect in your own houses. We have models that demonstrate this too! Posted by: Climate Expert at September 23, 2013 09:47 AM (Vv4Go) I just read your article. Our research indicates the same findings. Consider it "reviewed." BTW, can I get a reach-around on my grant application? Thanks!

Posted by: Peer Reviewer at September 23, 2013 05:57 AM (EqSsW)

109 Population explosion: BS Depletion of select ores and minerals: BS ------- Told ya so.

Posted by: Julian Simon at September 23, 2013 05:57 AM (76VQV)

110 No Doom? You mean we might survive all of this?

Posted by: 1200km to Wall Drug at September 23, 2013 05:57 AM (+6TCi)

111

But:

Communism: 100% Correct! Just ask 'em

Posted by: Bigby's Missing Finger at September 23, 2013 05:58 AM (3ZtZW)

112 Anyone who has ever been involved in any kind of large-scale scientific "study" understands what's going on here. And no blinding with these studies, either. I once had a statistician ask me, "What result do you want?" He wasn't kidding!

Posted by: Caliban at September 23, 2013 05:58 AM (DrC22)

113 Dwindling air supply due to deforestation: BS

♪♫ I'm all out of air
I'm so lost without it ♪♫

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 23, 2013 05:58 AM (/kI1Q)

114 19 I thought the science was settled?
It was. Bwaahaaahaaahaaa.

Posted by: Mother Gaia, laughing at your smug ass at September 23, 2013 05:58 AM (VndSC)

115 You fools. Your grant monies cannot save you now.

Soon my minions with be thrusting into your realm like a sex poodle in heat. On your knees and take heed, infidels.

Posted by: Higgs Boson at September 23, 2013 05:59 AM (oBz1n)

116 Since the IPCC findings were leaked last week iirc, why weren't any alarm bells going off in the media when Jugears suddenly decided to slam through his Coal Industry Death Sentence .......OHHH, that's right. I keep forgetting...... Strange how his sense of urgency suddenly spiked

Posted by: ontherocks at September 23, 2013 05:59 AM (SAR0a)

117 Congrats, AllenG!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at September 23, 2013 05:59 AM (CwqTI)

118 Population explosion: BS

The Malthusian BS was pushed to get the Western world to stop having babies, when the Western world was never a potential cause of overpopulation.

So the Western world did. Now look what's happening. Inverted pyramid of demographic doom, where we're importing people to pay the bills that have absolutely no interest in paying the bills for stupid Westerners.

Gramsci had a friend in Malthus.

Posted by: grognard at September 23, 2013 06:00 AM (/29Nl)

119 Jean, you forgot low fat diet: Bullshit.

Posted by: maddogg at September 23, 2013 06:00 AM (xWW96)

120 Climate Expert - I'm stealing that

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 23, 2013 06:01 AM (aDwsi)

121

Anything Obama says: bullshit

Posted by: Roy at September 23, 2013 06:01 AM (VndSC)

122 That's true. Economy of scale really does factor in to the pizza making business. We buy pepperoni pizza from Aldi- a huge pizza- and it costs $6. If I tried to make one of the same size at home- especially if you include time as part of the cost- it would cost at least as much to make. Ehh, maybe. Pre-made dough from Trader Joe's-$1.20, can of sauce-$1.50, Cheese-$2.00, bag of peperoni-$1.00. It's close in price, but I buy the above all the time and cook it in 5 minutes on the grill. It tastes a lot better than Aldi's pizza though, and is probably better for you, there are a lot fewer preservatives.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 23, 2013 06:01 AM (jt8G9)

123

>>>Higgs Boson

Oh, hey. Someone should suggest to the lefty crowd that, in all seriousness, the Super Collider has *saved us all* and stopped the Warmening! Make up some BS about 'shifting the subparticle maths' or whatever, and see if they bite...

Posted by: Bigby's Missing Finger at September 23, 2013 06:01 AM (3ZtZW)

124 nood

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at September 23, 2013 06:01 AM (MnSla)

125

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2013 09:54 AM (U6BWX)

Progress! More people will start to see the history of the left for what it was!

(I'm all for that.)

I would suspect most people don't know that a) Sanger Started PP and b) that she started it for racist eugenicist reasons.

Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 23, 2013 06:02 AM (GaqMa)

126 So the Western world did. Now look what's happening. Inverted pyramid of demographic doom, where we're importing people to pay the bills that have absolutely no interest in paying the bills for stupid Westerners. This is where I break from mainstream Stupidology: S does, in fact, vary over time, depending on the extent to which it is preserved and selected for, rather than allowing nature to simply take its course.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Honey Badger Shaman at September 23, 2013 06:02 AM (naUcP)

127 Cloud cover causes cooling. Lack of, heating. Because, sun, shade. Mostly, cosmic rays (the real ones, not the Fantastic Four ones) cause clouds. Stars cause cosmic rays. When our local star gets active, we get more cosmic rays, more clouds, more cooling. When our star is more dormant, the opposite. Humans are insignificant to the process. Cloud cover may of course also be increased by comet strikes, volcanic eruptions, and possibly a major nuclear conflict. In descending order of potential cooling. But all these are the minor fluctuations within the larger cosmic cycle. Every 25,000 years or so, our star orbits near other stars. We get more of their cosmic rays, and an ice age. Our long "summer" is waning. We're on our way back there now. Invest long-term in heating fuels.

Posted by: Professor Know-It-All at September 23, 2013 06:03 AM (F3WsD)

128 Oh frak it, did it to me again! /trudges off to new thread

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Honey Badger Shaman at September 23, 2013 06:03 AM (naUcP)

129 >>> nood Too many words to read. I'm staying here.

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2013 06:03 AM (z9HTb)

130 They are seriously moving to a theory in which atmospheric heat moves down into the ocean.

More proof of space alien intervention -- they have transporters for heat as well as matter.

Might just be stupid people, with PhD's, too.

Attractive as the alien theory is, I'm leaning stupid people -- Occams Razor

Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 23, 2013 06:03 AM (9MLX+)

131

Posted by: Caliban at September 23, 2013 09:58 AM

"ANOVA is what you do when you don't get the results you want"

--My former boss.

Every study is eventually unblinded and you have to do stats analysis at that point. Which is usually where the shenanigans starts.

Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 23, 2013 06:04 AM (GaqMa)

132 124 Why would there be fewer preservatives in the canned sauce and premade dough sold retail vs. the same products sold wholesale?

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at September 23, 2013 06:04 AM (76VQV)

133 Pizza is nothing. Baltimore, MD Â— The owner of the Â“Second Obama ExpressÂ” grocery store is accused of allegedly pocketing about $2 million in fake food stamp transactions over a three-year period.

Posted by: tmitsss at September 23, 2013 06:06 AM (yuTiW)

134 I watched Anarchy Afterwards. They had on Kurt Sutter, Jimmy Smits, and fucking Margaret Cho. Why?? Because she has tats and her manager got her on the show? At least it is not every week.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 23, 2013 06:06 AM (T0Pku)

135 It's all the fault of that invisible, undetectable carbon tunnel to Mars my Global Policy instructor warned us about!

Posted by: Ranba Ral at September 23, 2013 06:07 AM (nJloB)

136 "Went into a 7-11 in Alexandria Va this morning and as soon as I walking infront of the door was a display. And, on this desplay was 2 pizza boxes and a sign advertising Pizza's for 5.55 on YOUR EBT card. I was all I could do to bite my tongue."

-- I saw the same display in Fairfax.

Posted by: Matt S. at September 23, 2013 06:07 AM (m7EhJ)

137 >>> Why would there be fewer preservatives in the canned sauce and premade dough sold retail vs. the same products sold wholesale? I think it's the shopping at Trader Joe's part.

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2013 06:07 AM (z9HTb)

138 Gonna be a cold winter.

I think this winter we will see--for the first time in a long time--dozens of Americans freezing to death.

It's a scary thought and I don't wish it so but we have a lot of factors that say it is very likely:
1) Bad economy, people cutting back, living on the razor edge.
2) spike in utility bills from extended cold snaps
3) at least one or two big snowstorm/blizzards

means we could have a lot of people without any heat for weeks.

We will further be told not to politicize their deaths but if it's anybody's fault it's the Republicans for cutting program X, Y, or Z. No one will dare point out that if they had a job, they would not have to be on public assistance.

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 23, 2013 06:08 AM (VjL9S)

139 They should all be thrown in jail. They have fleeced the taxpayer. They have ruined businesses. I no longer have any faith in scientists. They are nothing but leftard scam artists.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 23, 2013 06:09 AM (T0Pku)

140 And no blinding with these studies, either. I once had a statistician ask me, "What result do you want?" He wasn't kidding!

Posted by: Caliban at September 23, 2013 09:58 AM (DrC22)

A PhD candidate that I knew, when asked why his results were not repeatable, replied that the raw data needed to be normalized with respect to the desired answer!"

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 23, 2013 06:10 AM (XdnQT)

141 Ah. We don't have Trader Joe's here, are they all organic or something? Even so, anything that is premade is going to be loaded with preservatives. I kind of think the difference is negligible.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at September 23, 2013 06:11 AM (76VQV)

142 >>> I think this winter we will see--for the first time in a long time--dozens of Americans freezing to death. And you know what will cause the deep freeze?

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2013 06:11 AM (z9HTb)

143 >>Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 23, 2013 10:02 AM (GaqMa)

What kills me is that PP gives out a Margaret Sanger Award every year - without any shame! An so-called feminists like Hillary have won it.
They see no shame in honoring Sanger, and themselves, in the name of eugenics.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2013 06:12 AM (U6BWX)

144 for the first time in a long time--dozens of Americans freezing to death

Human sacrifices to the gods are back in vogue.

Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 23, 2013 06:13 AM (9MLX+)

145

Gonna be a cold winter.

Gonna find me a big ol' woman to keep me warm.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 23, 2013 06:13 AM (BAS5M)

146 A model is a guess made up of a collection of facts, math, solid theories, hypotheses, and more guesses. Sometimes a model works well and does a good job guessing what the real thing is like. Sometimes not so much. It's okay to fiddle with a model to make it work better, but you only get to fiddle with it and not too much and not forever. Eventually, you have to give up and say, "Okay, we were wrong." That's the rule for scientists and many others. It does not apply to carnies and other such charletons. Right, Al?

Posted by: eman at September 23, 2013 06:15 AM (AO9UG)

147 140 More than the freezing to death, you'll have carbon monoxide deaths as people try to make do with mmakeshift heat and imprperly serviced furnaces.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at September 23, 2013 06:15 AM (76VQV)

148 raw data needed to be normalized with respect to the desired answer

That pretty much how they're doing temperature measurement corrections on all that historical weather station data.

Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 23, 2013 06:15 AM (9MLX+)

149 >>> We don't have Trader Joe's here, are they all organic or something? No, but they have their share. They do seem to forgo preservatives in a lot of things. Their packaged cookies often have actual butter and sugar, not corn syrup and hydrogenated oil. Surprisingly, they have low prices.

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2013 06:16 AM (z9HTb)

150 Candy and soda at the very least need to go. Frankly, Name brand stuff also needs to get the boot.
==============
Whoa there!

And let out the dirty little secret that the major food companies lobby like crazy for expanding the food stamps program?

Every single thing about the food stamp program is to launder federal money to the big food corporations through the poor people. That's why name brands qualify but store brands of the exact same food don't.

Why do you think Nancy Pelosi said, "welfare spending creates jobs?" That wasn't some stupid shit she came up with on her own (though she is certainly capable of it), that was a lobbyist in her ear.

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 23, 2013 06:20 AM (VjL9S)

151 ♪♫ I'm all out of air I'm so lost without it ♪♫ Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 23, 2013 09:58 AM (/kI1Q)
Damnit, I leave for ten minutes to get a fresh-from-the-oven cinnamon roll, then I read this, and inhale half the damn roll.
BRB as soon as I get the cinnamon and glaze out of my lungs. XD

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 23, 2013 06:20 AM (mJEtb)

152

At The Center For Global Warming Awareness

Scientist: Ok. Input the conclusion.

Drone 1: Whut?

Scientist: I said, input the conclusion!

Drone 1: We don't know the conclusion yet. I haven't put the data in.

Scientist: The data doesn't MATTER! The concensus is the earth is warming at an alarming rate and it's caused by MAN!

Drone 1: That's insane! How can you reach a concensus before the data is analyzed?

Scientist: Because we're SCIENTISTS, AND YOU'RE NOT!

Drone 2: Just do it dude.

Drone 1: Fine!.... There! You happy now?

Scientist: YOU ASSHOLE! I am NOT a LYING DOUCHY DOUCHEBAG! ARRGH!

Drone 1: Aw man! I think he just had a heart attack.

Drone 2: Yea dude. But you know what?

Drone 1: Whut?

Drone 2: He's dead Jim.

Drone 1: Heh. Star Trek reference. That's funny.

Posted by: Drones who work for douchebag scientists at September 23, 2013 06:22 AM (57ubW)

153 DOOM is always around the corner. Never fear.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at September 23, 2013 06:22 AM (71LDo)

154 "I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and by gum it put them on the map!"

Heather Radish! Top notch. Top notch.

Posted by: Judge Smails at September 23, 2013 06:25 AM (71LDo)

155 That pretty much how they're doing temperature measurement corrections on all that historical weather station data.

Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate at September 23, 2013 10:15 AM (9MLX+)

IIRC, they (East Anglia) actually corrected much of the original source data and then destroyed the raw data.

Posted by: Prof. Hrothgar, PhD, Esq. at September 23, 2013 06:26 AM (XdnQT)

156 They are seriously moving to a theory in which atmospheric heat moves down into the ocean.

You forgot the part where it doesn't raise the temperatures of the top and middle of the Oceans too! That's the good part. It's like it's Magic or something. Grant money for magic sounds like a sound investment to me! <sarc>

Posted by: dfbaskwill at September 23, 2013 06:32 AM (71LDo)

157 Posted by: dfbaskwill at September 23, 2013 10:32 AM (71LDo)

Deep soothing heat theory!

Posted by: Prof. Hrothgar, PhD, Esq. at September 23, 2013 06:35 AM (XdnQT)

158 Why would there be fewer preservatives in the canned sauce and premade dough sold retail vs. the same products sold wholesale? Shelf life. Fewer preservatives in a sealed can or dough with a couple of days in the fridge versus a pre-made pie. Taste was my main point though. It just tastes a lot better.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 23, 2013 06:36 AM (jt8G9)

159 I sure hope they don't catch old Samantha alive. Whore. I hope they torture and kill her on the spot.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 23, 2013 09:46 AM (T0Pku)

Surely the Kenyan army could use a little bayonet practice.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2013 06:42 AM (8Fl6F)

160 now CAGW -- bullshit

Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2013 09:53 AM (CMlD4)

Missed one: ozone hole - bullshit

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2013 06:45 AM (8Fl6F)

161 Missed another: Alar - bullshit

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 23, 2013 06:47 AM (BAS5M)

162 People talking about the nutritional value of pizza. During the Libyan clusterfuck, a news agency showed some of the "rebels" making pizza to be sent to the front. It looked like, what we would call, a deep dish, lots of cheese and vegies, some sauce, unknown meat, wrapped in foil. Kinda put my ham and motherfuckers to shame.

Posted by: Bill at September 23, 2013 07:01 AM (uvyrw)

163

Henrik Svensmark's theory on cosmic rays and clouds explains all SIX billion years of climate change for the planet earth.

goto wikipedia and look him up. You'll see reference to the one hour youtube video on the cloud mystery, his book chilling stars, and the wattsup blogs posts on the CERN proving the core scientific basis of his theory.

Posted by: Harold at September 23, 2013 08:12 AM (xTVTq)

164 Quote from the LA Times article. "The theory, which is gaining adherents, remains unproved by actual observation." HA HA HA HA. What's a theory? A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation. Scientists create scientific theories from hypotheses that have been corroborated through the scientific method, then gather evidence to test their accuracy. As with all forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and aim for predictive and explanatory force. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 23, 2013 09:56 AM (83xuc)

165

The Earth isn't warming for the same reason that the Cardiff Giant is not an actual fossil.

Because a hoax is a hoax.

Posted by: RKae at September 23, 2013 11:46 AM (KHpiU)

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