March 27, 2013

Leno to Fox?
— Ace

NBC is trying to mend fences with Leno. Supposedly it worked, and they won't have another embarrassing talk-show drama on their hands.

Still, Leno doesn't "need the money," as this article says, because he doesn't even spend the money. But he does want to continue being on TV.

So, Fox?

The most obvious next move would be a late-night show on Fox. In fact, according to Bill Carroll, director of programming at Katz Media Group, it's the "only logical place" in syndication. What's more, Fox affiliate board chairman Steve Pruett recently told The New York Post that if the network were to present "the right business plan, the affiliate board would be interested." Still, Fox weighed the option of luring O'Brien when he lost Tonight and ultimately decided it did not make economic sense. Carroll estimates it would cost $100 million to launch a new Leno show.

Fox actually has a deal with Arsenio Hall to start a late night show this fall. To put on Leno, they'd have to bump Arsenio to midnight. So, imagine: We could have another Leno-Hall drama. Everything old is new again!

More interesting in this article, though, is the Decline of the Networks. The Tonight Show used to be a cash bonanza for NBC -- $150 million in profits, per year. Now it's down to $30-40 million. Even though Leno is still the ratings champ, they're dumping him anyway, in a cost-cutting move.

Networks didn't used to do that. They used to be flush enough with money that these things could be negotiated. (Johnny Carson wound up working just 4 nights a week to make his huge contract deal work out for everyone.) But do to declining importance and fewer viewers, they now have to just let top rated guys go.

TV networks are in serious trouble. There is no chance they won't remain major players -- they have a lot of expertise tied up in contracts. And institutions tend to continue on.

But Amazon is going to get into the TV production game, and Netflix already did. Meanwhile cable continues to cut into networks' ratings-- where it was once unthinkable that cable stations could beat the mighty networks, it now happens from time to time.

It will happen more.

Empire of Jeff posted on What This All Means in a comment earlier (when comments were working). It means further cultural balkanization, as specific entertainments (and "news" shows) are specifically tailored for specific tribe... which I'm not sure is such a bad thing.

We have had a shared culture in one area for years -- TV. But that's a pretty shabby medium to share a culture by, isn't it? Not exactly the sort of thing a civilization is proud of.

We've had balkanization in print for years and years and years. Because print was relatively inexpensive (compared to filmed entertainment), the market could easily pump out entertainments and nonfiction with less appeal to a general audience, but much stronger appeal to specific niches of that audience.

And who's to say that's worse?

A year ago Andrew Breitbart made what I thought was an absurd prediction: "In five years, all of this is gone. The media, all of it. Gone." Something like that.

Well, it might not be five years, and it might not be completely gone, but ground is starting to shake beneath us. Plates are shifting. Grand houses may well fall.

Posted by: Ace at 01:47 PM | Comments (7)
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1 Now it's getting boring.

Firstest with the mostest.

I should've started on the older threads first but I didn't know the blog was doa for so long.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 27, 2013 05:53 PM (Kpn/z)

2 I knew that as soon as I posted this to the Blackout commenting site, the comments at the main site would come back up. Anyway, here it is again.

Fantastic! Ace screwed up in one of his posts, and I was getting worried that I wouldnÂ’t get the chance to rub his nose in it.

Ace posted the following:

Fox actually has a deal with Arsenio Hall to start a late night show this fall. To put on Leno, theyÂ’d have to bump Arsenio to midnight. So, imagine: We could have another Leno-Hall drama. Everything old is new again!

But, according to the always accurate Wikipedia:

On June 18, 2012, Hall and CBS Television Distribution (which now owns the Paramount Television library) signed a deal to produce a new late-night talk show, targeted to debut on September 9, 2013. The new program will tentatively air on stations owned by CBS Television Stations, Tribune Broadcasting, and Local TV, in some cases on stations which also carried HallÂ’s original program.

Not a Fox in the bunch.

Whew! I sure feel better now.


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 27, 2013 05:57 PM (k34Gz)

3

Gosh.  I hope Fox doesn't book Arsenio after the way he treated Australian Mega-Star and Friend of Royals, Dame Edna Everage, on his show back in the day.

She had the grace to polish his leather with her fanny for twenty minutes while, instead of laughing, he grimaced, sighed and scowled after every very-funny punch-line she delivered. 

He obviously invited her onto his show just to disparage her keen wit with his breathy yawns, and, twenty years on I'm still spitting mad about it!  If she were Queen, I'd urge her to wrap Arsenio's longish head in colored crepe, stuff it in a taffeta box, and post it "Airborne" it to Rupert Murdoch just in time for Easter.

Posted by: steveaz at March 27, 2013 06:46 PM (9QXQg)

4 Arsenio? He's still alive?

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at March 27, 2013 06:55 PM (IanLz)

5 Faster.

I want to live long enough to see sobbing reporters, editors and producers being interviewed.

Posted by: Sgt Hulka at March 28, 2013 09:23 AM (WcNbE)

6 If "shared culture" means - as it has - being propagandized by a self-anointed elite, I'll take balkanization.

Posted by: Chas C-Q at March 28, 2013 09:33 AM (6U+/4)

7 I agree with Chas C-Q about balkanization. What the mass media elites failed to understand is most people want entertainment and reasonably accurate hard information. The blatant propaganda is antagonistic and insulting because it presumes one is to stupid to understand the issues.

Posted by: Just_Lurking at March 28, 2013 10:21 AM (MfHyy)

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