December 17, 2013

Let's Go Cherry-Picking!
— JohnE.

Fair warning. I'm about to dig deep down into a few polls today, looking to ferret out some unnoticed trends that others have completely missed due to their total obscurity. Unfortunately, Greg Sargent over at the Washington Post predicted some partisan hacks like me (but not him) might try to work this angle.



First up, a new WaPo/ABC poll was released today. WaPo tries to hide an interesting little morsel at the way top of the article, in the first sentence of the first paragraph.
President Obama is ending his fifth year in office matching the worst public approval ratings of his presidency, with record numbers of Americans saying they disapprove of his job performance and his once-hefty advantages over Republicans in Congress eroded in many areas, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
If you click over to the poll itself and scroll all the way down to the first question, you'll notice a pronounced shift in who Americans trust with the problems facing our nation.



If you're not yet exhausted from this fruitless hunt for slivers of positive minutia, buried in the backwater social media site known as Twitter, WaPo attempted to suppress this mostly useless tidbit: President Obama has the worst year 5 standing of anyone since Richard Nixon (whoever that is).


Meanwhile, the latest Pew poll has found that liberal support for Obama has collapsed hard.
Following on the heels of other political groups, President Obama's liberal base is abandoning him, giving him an even lower level of support from his base than George W. Bush had from conservatives five years into his presidency, according to a new Pew Research Center poll.

Just 54 percent of liberal Democrats strongly approve of Obama in their new poll. For Bush at this stage of his presidency, 65 percent of conservatives strongly supported the Republican.

As yesterday's poll showed, millennials are souring on Obama. What's interesting is that even liberal millennials are as well.
Worse for Obama: Younger liberals have lost their thrill for Obama more than older liberals. Of those aged 18-49, just 46 percent strongly approve of the president, 39 percent “not so strongly,” said Pew.
As Greg might tell you, it's been a very positive couple of months for President Obama, but if you're willing to put in the hard work and have a keen, trained eye for poll analysis, you might be able to discover these little chinks in his armor. Don't read too much into it, though. I'm just cherry-pickin'.

[Update] He warned us, and now the prophecy has been fulfilled. Lotta cherry-pickin' out there.



Thanks to @slublog

Posted by: JohnE. at 12:14 PM | Comments (161)
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1 I hate 100% OF THESE BASTARDS IN CHARGE RIGHT NOW

Posted by: oc joe at December 17, 2013 12:17 PM (hqVUe)

2 sorry for screaming, you know how it get's. and first

Posted by: oc joe at December 17, 2013 12:18 PM (hqVUe)

3 >>>WaPo tries to hide an interesting little morsel at the way top of the article, in the first sentence of the first paragraph.<<
.

Clever, I always read from the bottom up.

Posted by: Javems at December 17, 2013 12:21 PM (nTgAI)

4 Poised For Recovery!

Posted by: Barack Obama's Poll at December 17, 2013 12:21 PM (FcR7P)

5 Put me firmly in the "neither" camp.

Posted by: rickl at December 17, 2013 12:21 PM (zoehZ)

6 You can translate Sargent as saying: "I can't find anything to cherry pick in Obama's favor today."

Posted by: Jean at December 17, 2013 12:21 PM (4JkHl)

7 Helps if we challenge the meme-machine; FJ noted Upworthy already as a bugnest for smug douches on social media.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo says, free toby at December 17, 2013 12:21 PM (iQxYV)

8 I guess Sargent  lost his cherry.

Posted by: Roy at December 17, 2013 12:22 PM (VndSC)

9 Hidden in the first sentence...

Gotta hand it to the WaPo.  They've covered for Obama so much, no one would EVER look at the first sentence for a critical statement about him.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 17, 2013 12:22 PM (fwARV)

10 That's gonna leave a mark on @ThePlumLineGS's outsized ego, John. Sure you won't get picked up for Stupid Liberal Pundit Abuse?

Posted by: Brian Cates at December 17, 2013 12:22 PM (KMqnG)

11 Feet forward, facing the past , with laser focus on the issues!!

Posted by: Bruce at December 17, 2013 12:22 PM (v+HXt)

12 Obama is polling nicely in Sargent's mouth (Obama is the name he gave his pug's weiner).

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 17, 2013 12:22 PM (+lsX1)

13 I saw the Cherry Pickers   open  at the Grand Ole Opry in '86.

Posted by: Roy at December 17, 2013 12:22 PM (VndSC)

14 Sargent wouldn't know a cherry from a dingleberry.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo says, free toby at December 17, 2013 12:23 PM (iQxYV)

15

"chinks in his armor"

 

Racisty racist!

Posted by: speedster1 at December 17, 2013 12:23 PM (v40Bj)

16 I'm not a SCOAMF!

Posted by: Richard Milhouse Obama at December 17, 2013 12:24 PM (dvRYt)

17 Young people are often naive or easily fooled. The millennials may be able to learn from their mistakes. The liberals who are abandoning Obama just think he's a fuckup. They will happily vote for Hillary or the Indian squaw in '16.

Posted by: rickl at December 17, 2013 12:24 PM (zoehZ)

18 I picked a cherry back in the day.  And today is our 36th Wedding Anniversary.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 17, 2013 12:24 PM (V70Uh)

19 All I ask is for a plaid map. Just a plaid map. That's all I need. And this remote. A plaid map, this remote and that lamp. That's all I need.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 12:25 PM (VtjlW)

20 Maraschinos all the way down.

Posted by: Andy at December 17, 2013 12:26 PM (mmLy4)

21 That Neither camp, the volunteered, is the Tea Party

Posted by: Jean at December 17, 2013 12:26 PM (4JkHl)

22 I saw Little Chinks open for Little Kiss at the county fair last year.  I denounce myself.

Posted by: Humpty Hump at December 17, 2013 12:26 PM (QFnhZ)

23
I saw "Poll Cherry Picking" open for "Warrant" about ten years ago.   I have totally forgotten where.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 17, 2013 12:27 PM (nELVU)

24 If the critics are right and I made all my decisions based on polls, then I guess I don't know how to read polls.

Posted by: Barak Obama at December 17, 2013 12:27 PM (JMb/Y)

25 Barry had better worry about his reelection.

Posted by: toby928© from the Phantom Zone at December 17, 2013 12:27 PM (evdj2)

26 I love that neither is not an option but so many people volunteered it that it became an option.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 12:27 PM (VtjlW)

27 "19 All I ask is for a plaid map.

Just a plaid map. That's all I need. And this remote. A plaid map, this remote and that lamp. That's all I need. "

And this ashtray. Nothin' else.

Posted by: The Jerk at December 17, 2013 12:27 PM (1Rgee)

28
Morning Plum: Insurance industry bets on Obamacare. GOP bets on failure.

Insurance companies will spend hundreds of millions to help make the law work, but Republicans know it has already failed.

By Greg Sargent



Greg cashing his WashPo check and buying lottery tickets....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 17, 2013 12:27 PM (kdS6q)

29 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 17, 2013 12:27 PM (PYAXX)

30 Gosh if this keeps up, he'll never get reelected. Oh, wait.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 17, 2013 12:28 PM (zfY+H)

31

>>>millennials are souring on Obama

 

Ya know, it *could* just be that Obama's a lame duck and they're looking for the next One. IOW it doesn't mean they learned anything from this here harrowing experience.

Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 12:28 PM (3ZtZW)

32 If there's one thing Barry knows it's poles.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 17, 2013 12:28 PM (dvRYt)

33 23 I saw "Poll Cherry Picking" open for "Warrant" about ten years ago. I have totally forgotten where. --- But did it put a smile on your face ten miles wide?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 12:28 PM (/Crba)

34 I'm making cherry jam* tonight. *unusually for the HQ, this is not a euphemism.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 17, 2013 12:29 PM (PYAXX)

35 you might be able to discover these little chinks That's ray-ciss!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2013 12:29 PM (qc7at)

36
Wondering aloud if this "Greg" fellow and our intellectually diminutive "Gerg" are actually one and the same....

Posted by: fixerupper at December 17, 2013 12:29 PM (nELVU)

37 I picked a cherry back in the day. And today is our 36th Wedding Anniversary. Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 17, 2013 04:24 PM (V70Uh) I don't know if you should be smacked or congratulated for that. How about both?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 12:29 PM (VtjlW)

38 They never should have replaced Greg York with Sargent.

Posted by: toby928© from the Phantom Zone at December 17, 2013 12:29 PM (evdj2)

39

Is this guy, Greg Sergeant,  somebody? 

 

I don't  know about the rest of y'all, but I hear crazy people saying stuff all the time.  I have a working filter though, so I don't have to get my knickers in a bunch over their lunatic ravings. 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2013 12:29 PM (xCw24)

40 Let's see-- Polls (BUT HE'S STILL POPULAR!!!)--Nope Economy--Nope Foreign Policy--Nope Global Warming--Nope GM Stock Sale--Nope Doing the Nixon and Traveling While in Trouble--Nope Obamacare--HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Look gang, when a guy can't even snap a selfie without it combusting, it's over. Well, until Ryan and Boehner throw him the amnesty lifeline....

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 17, 2013 12:30 PM (659DL)

41 Clever, I always read from the bottom up. That's how I look at women too.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 12:30 PM (4QSOR)

42 If this were a Republican, ol' Greggie would be concerned that he no longer had a mandate to lead.

Posted by: t-bird at December 17, 2013 12:31 PM (FcR7P)

43 Sargent wouldn't know a cherry from a dingleberry. It was just a really sour cherry!

Posted by: GS[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 12:31 PM (4QSOR)

44 Pickin' sounds racist.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 17, 2013 12:31 PM (IXrOn)

45 45 Sargent wouldn't know a cherry from a dingleberry. It was just a really sour cherry! --- Where do I send the bill for my new monitor?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 12:31 PM (/Crba)

46 "chinks in his armor"

Racisty racist!

Posted by: speedster1 at December 17, 2013 04:23 PM (v40Bj)

 

Whoo, it just got chilly in here.  Anyone else feel that nip in the air?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 17, 2013 12:32 PM (DrWcr)

47 It's as if WaPo writers get an absurdity bonus at year's end.

Posted by: BuckIV at December 17, 2013 12:32 PM (CLfqv)

48 With the economy poised to roar to life any day now, the JEF will win them all back. You just wait and see.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 17, 2013 12:32 PM (VjL9S)

49 "I don't know if you should be smacked or congratulated for that. How about both?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 04:29 PM (VtjlW)"


For the record, I regret my sins. 


We are still each other's sweethearts.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 17, 2013 12:32 PM (V70Uh)

50 The tears of these liberals brings joy to my heart this Christmas. NY Slime link, and oh how sweet it is. http://tinyurl.com/kyvosa2

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 12:32 PM (0FSuD)

51 Who's the next Marxist/leader thrill. Old school marm Hillary?

Posted by: red at December 17, 2013 12:32 PM (JMb/Y)

52 You're talking about THE Greg Sargent?

Posted by: meh at December 17, 2013 12:32 PM (W2qJe)

53
Rush did a segment today on how the Millennials are starting to view W the 43rd as "cool" and "hip" and that W is enjoying a Renaissance of sorts with the hipster crowd.


THAT will piss off King Putt.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 17, 2013 12:33 PM (nELVU)

54 However- caveat: Trust no polls. Polls are worthless. It's nice to think that maybe people are waking up, but we thought that in 2012, too. As Bigby points out- it *could* just be that the millennials are looking for "the next big thing" rather than that they've actually learned anything from the last 5 years.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 17, 2013 12:33 PM (PYAXX)

55 Cherry Picking? That's like when you to a Cub Scout camp and get to pick your tent mate.

Posted by: Harry Reid, Pedarist at December 17, 2013 12:34 PM (0FSuD)

56 "The liberals who are abandoning Obama just think he's a fuckup. They will happily vote for Hillary or the Indian squaw in '16."

It will be a delicate balancing act for either Clinton or Warren to position as the arriving saviour who will rescue floundering liberalism from the guy who fucked everything up.

Because when the guy who fucked everything up is black, and the putative white female saviour desperately needs black votes to win, and blacks are very touchy about any suggestion that the Historic First Black President might have fucked up even a little bit, much less a lot, then well, how _does_ that white female saviour simultaneously blame the guy while absolving him?

Quite the three-pipe problem, Watson.

(In Warren's case, a three-peace-pipe-problem.)

Posted by: torquewrench at December 17, 2013 12:34 PM (gqT4g)

57 My prediction: Barky will go after his liberal base by advocating even more ridiculous social engineering.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 17, 2013 12:34 PM (E+uky)

58
Is this guy, Greg Sergeant, somebody




Yes.  Matthew Broderick.

Seriously, GIS his mug. They could be brothers.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 17, 2013 12:34 PM (kdS6q)

59 The Greg Sargent?  That WaPo idiot?  Talk about racist.  Nothing Obama ever did, does, or will do can ever be denounced.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 17, 2013 12:34 PM (V70Uh)

60 W is enjoying a Renaissance of sorts with the hipster crowd. Have you polled us?

Posted by: Portland[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 12:35 PM (4QSOR)

61  Steiner's force will attack from the North and unite with the Free Shit Army.

Posted by: greg sargent at December 17, 2013 12:35 PM (evdj2)

62 Whoo, it just got chilly in here. Anyone else feel that nip in the air?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 17, 2013 04:32 PM (DrWcr)


---


Why, Yes.   Put a frost on the ground and I nearly slipped down this slope,

Posted by: fixerupper at December 17, 2013 12:35 PM (nELVU)

63 Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 04:32 PM (0FSuD) I hit the paywall.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 17, 2013 12:35 PM (PYAXX)

64 my social worker sister really surprised me at thanksgiving by saying she likes rand paul in '16

Posted by: oc joe at December 17, 2013 12:35 PM (hqVUe)

65 Does THE Greg Sargent know that the proper term is "plumb line"?  I would actually deign to scrounge around to see if he is being hipster ironic, but I actually don't care.  I just want to taunt him.

Posted by: Furious George at December 17, 2013 12:35 PM (yFb77)

66 The tears of the left: Growing the Arctic Ice.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 17, 2013 12:36 PM (IXrOn)

67 Who's the next Marxist/leader thrill.

---

Lieawatha.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 17, 2013 12:36 PM (nELVU)

68 Look Blowbama is tired. Its been a couple of months since his last vacation. Once he gets back from his 17 day he'll be hard at it and his numbers will skyrocket.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 17, 2013 12:36 PM (LsF5M)

69

44 -

 

I miss the days when it was more or less the wild wild west in the blogosphere.  People like Kos and Oliver  (filet o fish) Willis were doing their own thing, just like everybody else, so if  a right leaning blogger  had a shootout with one  (or several)  of them, it was silly and fun.

 

 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2013 12:36 PM (xCw24)

70 Most importantly are the haters who hate everything- when pressed in that poll, 72% of them said they would pull for the Republican in the end. I suspect these "haters" are ex-Republicans, it would explain the sizable gap in favorability ratings between them and the Democrats, yet the overwhelming preference among the hater-set.

Posted by: CAC at December 17, 2013 12:37 PM (yPzNV)

71 58 "The liberals who are abandoning Obama just think he's a fuckup. They will happily vote for Hillary or the Indian squaw in '16." - Yeah. Even if they're done with Barky they will remain true to.Marx.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 17, 2013 12:37 PM (E+uky)

72 Rush did a segment today on how the Millennials are starting to view W the 43rd as "cool" and "hip" and that W is enjoying a Renaissance of sorts with the hipster crowd.
=====
Human nature.

They may have swung with the "in" crowd and hated on him when he was in office.
But you know what? Back then, they had a future--they were going to go to college, they were going to get a good job. Sure, the President sucked, but they had a future.

Now? Five years in and they're out of college, they've no job and they're living at home with no money.

So, it's natural to look back to better times.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 17, 2013 12:37 PM (VjL9S)

73 65 Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 04:32 PM (0FSuD) I hit the paywall. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 17, 2013 04:35 PM (PYAXX) Shit, I copied it from Google, but I do have an account so maybe they saw that. Google up NY times story on professional associations losing health care. It is hilarious.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 12:37 PM (0FSuD)

74 It's a veritable bumper crop of cherries.  Hard to cherry pick when they just    fall by themselves into the basket.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 17, 2013 12:37 PM (O3C36)

75 As Bigby points out- it *could* just be that the millennials are looking for "the next big thing" rather than that they've actually learned anything from the last 5 years.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 17, 2013 04:33 PM (PYAXX)

 

Exactly... for young people stuff is only cool for a while... then it's on to the next cool thing or person.. by bye Lolo

Posted by: The Jackhole at December 17, 2013 12:38 PM (nTgAI)

76 Hate to say it, but what difference does it make?
He's been re-elected (in part, by hiding his true agenda through delayed regulations) and he's just brought John Podesta to start ramming through his policies via executive order (and any other means of going around Congress).

Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2013 12:39 PM (ruxvM)

77 You know what would do your numbers good, Barry? A 1000-day vacation. Just fucking go away.

Posted by: t-bird at December 17, 2013 12:39 PM (FcR7P)

78 "As Bigby points out- it *could* just be that the millennials are looking for 'the next big thing' rather than that they've actually learned anything from the last 5 years."

That squares with my own thinking.

Young people in general, and especially the millennial generation in the USA, are obsessive neophiles. If it's not new, it's old, and no millennial wants anything to do with anything old, which they scorn. And things get old fast, for them. Look! Over there! Shiny new thing! *mass stampede*

Obama is old and busted. No new hotness has yet emerged. It will. What the new hotness will be has yet to be determined. It could hypothetically take the form of a charismatic candidate or movement EVEN FURTHER LEFT THAN OBAMA. Chew on that thought.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 17, 2013 12:39 PM (gqT4g)

79 Following on the heels of other political groups, President Obama's liberal base is abandoning him, giving him an even lower level of support from his base than George W. Bush had from conservatives five years into his presidency, according to a new Pew Research Center poll.

Well now, the liberals can always go to the American Communist Party if 0bama's too far to the right for them.  Where do conservatives have to go if the GOP leans too far to the left?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 17, 2013 12:39 PM (4WhSY)

80 59 My prediction: Barky will go after his liberal base by advocating even more ridiculous social engineering.
========
The ol' "we hasta raise the minimum wage" sure is getting a lot of traction, eh?

How do you think it is to be a lib these days? All the old "day of coordinated action" that used to work so well in the past are met with "muh."

It's a damned good play and one I wish conservatives could deploy. But when everything is a crisis demanding a coordinated day of action, it kinda loses its luster.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 17, 2013 12:39 PM (VjL9S)

81 You know Mr Reid, it's mighty scary going in to these woods. I know, think how I am going to feel when I come out alone.

Posted by: Little Johnny at December 17, 2013 12:40 PM (0FSuD)

82 If they refuse retirement and replacement, then the lampposts are waiting...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 17, 2013 12:40 PM (vHRtU)

83 W is enjoying a Renaissance of sorts with the hipster crowd. Second Look at the Hipster Slapfight Thread?

Posted by: garrett at December 17, 2013 12:40 PM (to+9k)

84
But Zombie Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!



Posted by: In before the troll at December 17, 2013 12:40 PM (TIIx5)

85 Lizzy has a point.  Polls are useless    at this point, because public pressure won't do anything to a narcissist with nothing to    lose.  Only congression action, as in impeachment, will have any effect.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 17, 2013 12:40 PM (O3C36)

86 It could hypothetically take the form of a charismatic candidate or movement EVEN FURTHER LEFT THAN OBAMA. Chew on that thought. I might rather chew on my Springfield.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 17, 2013 12:40 PM (PYAXX)

87

>>>Because when the guy who fucked everything up is black, and the putative white female saviour, [...] how _does_ that white female saviour simultaneously blame the guy while absolving him?

 

Um. OK this is a hard one to communicate well, but do you know any inter-racial couples?

Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 12:41 PM (3ZtZW)

88 64 Whoo, it just got chilly in here. Anyone else feel that nip in the air? - LOOK OUT! KAMIKAZE!

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 17, 2013 12:41 PM (E+uky)

89 You know why I like "Little Johnny"? My dick looks so big in his little hands.

Posted by: Harry Reid, Pedarist at December 17, 2013 12:42 PM (0FSuD)

90 Hard to cherry pick when they just fall by themselves into the basket. Must be how Justin Bieber feels.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 12:42 PM (J79eW)

91

 >>>W is enjoying a Renaissance of sorts with the hipster crowd.

 

They were being obscure and ironic, dodohead

Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 12:42 PM (3ZtZW)

92 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 17, 2013 04:30 PM (659DL)

Never fear, the Repubs have lots of time to throw lifelines to Obama (see today's Senate action as a clue).

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 17, 2013 12:42 PM (o3MSL)

93 This nation, America, will not be saved by politicians or elections.

Posted by: EROWMER at December 17, 2013 12:42 PM (OONaw)

94

As I've said a few times before, Dear Leader still holds the  face cards.   All he  and the dems in congress  have  to do is start  jabbering on about student loan  forgiveness (whether anything is done about it or  not)  and the youngins will start clamouring back.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 12:43 PM (r/Zvc)

95 Obama is like a rapist. He knows we don't approve of getting butt fucked, and he is just going to keep on fucking us. The opinions of Americans don't matter to him. He approves of himself and that is all that matters to him

Posted by: lemmiwinks at December 17, 2013 12:43 PM (LJaTq)

96 movement EVEN FURTHER LEFT THAN OBAMA. Chew on that thought.

Posted by: torquewrench

I think that was the purpose of OWS, it failed to gain any traction - which must worry the White House political cabal.

Posted by: Jean at December 17, 2013 12:43 PM (4JkHl)

97 I told you Bracka likes POLES not polls. Escpecially smoking them

Posted by: The Jackhole at December 17, 2013 12:45 PM (nTgAI)

98 I think that was the purpose of OWS, it failed to gain any traction - which must worry the White House political cabal.
Posted by: Jean at December 17, 2013 04:43 PM
------------------------------

We kept slipping in all the poo.

Posted by: lefty hipster doofus at December 17, 2013 12:45 PM (8GKDa)

99 Look at the sidebar..."Hey, I know you guys want to talk about the NSA, but let's talk about the healthcare.gov website becasue of how awesome I am." We're straying into "I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. DeMille" territory here.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 17, 2013 12:46 PM (659DL)

100 A guy who had to cheat like hell to scrape by in the worst re-election showing in American history     doesn't really care about public opinion, only power.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 17, 2013 12:46 PM (O3C36)

101 It could hypothetically take the form of a charismatic candidate or movement EVEN FURTHER LEFT THAN OBAMA. Chew on that thought. I might rather chew on my Springfield. Never! Always make the other side chew on it.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2013 12:46 PM (qc7at)

102 Posted by: JohnE. at 04:14 PM It took until 4:14 for The Media to pick all these cherries out.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 17, 2013 12:46 PM (Qt/d2)

103 88 It could hypothetically take the form of a charismatic candidate or movement EVEN FURTHER LEFT THAN OBAMA. Chew on that thought.
I might rather chew on my Springfield.Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 17, 2013 04:40 PM (PYAXX)

DeBlasio / Fauxcahontas 2020? *shivers*

Posted by: LizLem, who has Love for Mia at December 17, 2013 12:47 PM (BF+2f)

104 DeBlasio / Fauxcahontas 2020? *shivers*

Posted by: LizLem, who has Love for Mia at December 17, 2013 04:47 PM (BF+2f)

 

Sweet mother of God.  Pass the hemlock, please.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 17, 2013 12:48 PM (DrWcr)

105 Poll of Traditional American Allies who still talk to Washington DC? Got a microscope?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 17, 2013 12:48 PM (t3UFN)

106 You have nothing to fear from Barack Obama in the White House.

Posted by: Senator John McCain [/i] [/b] at December 17, 2013 12:48 PM (5ikDv)

107 A guy who had to cheat like hell to scrape by in the worst re-election showing in American history doesn't really care about public opinion, only power.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 17, 2013 04:46 PM (O3C36)


When the nominal opposition party quietly accepts voter fraud, it is academic whether or not the president cares about power and noting else.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 17, 2013 12:48 PM (o3MSL)

108 You have nothing to fear from Barack Obama in the White House.

Posted by: Senator John McCain at December 17, 2013 04:48 PM (5ikDv)

 

Yes, it's a sock, but FUCK YOU, John.  Gosh, that felt good...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 17, 2013 12:49 PM (DrWcr)

109
OT

Smart Power!  Smart Diplomacy!


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Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 17, 2013 12:49 PM (MaP11)

110 I've never been with an "Indian" boy. Wonder is Liz could fix me up?

Posted by: Harry Reid, Pedarist at December 17, 2013 12:51 PM (0FSuD)

111 "Hey, I know you guys want to talk about the NSA, but let's talk about the healthcare.gov website becasue of how awesome I am." Considering most of those Tech companies overwhelmingly contribute to Democrats, I'm not particularly sympathetic. That said- what does it say when something is so bad that you choose to deflect TO Obamacare?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 17, 2013 12:53 PM (PYAXX)

112 Greg Sargent let me have his black cherry.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 17, 2013 12:54 PM (DrWcr)

113 That said- what does it say when something is so bad that you choose to deflect TO Obamacare?

Posted by: AllenG


A.B.C. Always. Be. Campaigning.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 17, 2013 12:54 PM (B0gqn)

114 "We would like to apologize for the way in which politicians are represented in this programme. It was never our intention to imply that politicians are weak-kneed, political time-servers who are more concerned with their personal vendettas and private power struggles than the problems of government. Nor to suggest at any point that they sacrifice their credibility by denying free debate on vital matters in the mistaken impression that party unity comes before the well-being of the people they supposedly represent. Nor to imply at any stage that they are squabbling little toadies without an ounce of concern for the vital social problems of today. Nor indeed do we intend that viewers should consider them as crabby, ulcerous, little self-seeking vermin with furry legs and an excessive addiction to alcohol and certain explicit sexual practices which some people might find offensive. Nor are we suggesting in any way that a series of assassinations directed against politicians in any way would gain their attention and perhaps result at least temporarily in their doing their job. We are sorry if this impression has come across."

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 17, 2013 12:55 PM (vHRtU)

115 Bwahaha, Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck are going to be on Hannity at top of the hour. This could be interesting. Maybe he will mention you again Ace! *munches on Hershey candy cane flavor chocolate bar*

Posted by: LizLem, who has Love for Mia at December 17, 2013 12:55 PM (BF+2f)

116

Like in the saying,  "first things first", I'd rather be talking about the 2014 elections and the  chances of adding some conservatives to congress.

 

Besides, someone upthread said it, Dear Leader could give a flying shit about polls.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 12:55 PM (zMOM1)

117 Brr

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 12:56 PM (0FSuD)

118 Clik my name and see the intrence for my house!

Is that not the cooolest evah!

Posted by: KayInMaine at December 17, 2013 12:56 PM (TS9aB)

119 Besides, someone upthread said it, Dear Leader could give a flying shit about polls. I've used the airplane lavatory too. I didn't think about polls in there.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 12:56 PM (44jNh)

120 All polls are skewed until I start to see an honest question on there: "Is Obama the biggest douchebag ever, or what?" The answer is either a) yes, or b) what?. Just trying to be fair.

Posted by: t-bird at December 17, 2013 12:57 PM (FcR7P)

121 A.B.C. Always. Be. Campaigning. Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 17, 2013 04:54 PM (B0gqn) I like that. I think I will steal it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 17, 2013 12:58 PM (t3UFN)

122 OT, I am listening to Stuart Varney hosting Cavuto.  They have a AGW alarmist.

Why won't he ask the simple question?

"What impact does that star 8 light-minutes away play?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 17, 2013 12:59 PM (V70Uh)

123 118 Like in the saying, "first things first", I'd rather be talking about the 2014 elections and the chances of adding some conservatives to congress.
Besides, someone upthread said it, Dear Leader could give a flying shit about polls.Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 04:55 PM (zMOM1)

Mia Love will be in there soon, barring some campaign calamity, now that Matheson has dropped out of the race like a stone! I've been dancing since the last thread. So that's one more on our side, and also making waves in the Black Congressional Caucus, haha. *continues gleeful Snoopy dancing*

Posted by: LizLem, who has Love for Mia at December 17, 2013 01:00 PM (BF+2f)

124 Alternate AOSHQ headline:  Right wing rabble rousers cherry pick polling data to besmirch our man-child king before he's fully matured like a fine political wine.

Posted by: Gerg Sargent at December 17, 2013 01:00 PM (UzPAd)

125  OT, I am listening to Stuart Varney hosting Cavuto. They have a AGW alarmist.

Why won't he ask the simple question?

"What impact does that star 8 light-minutes away play?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 17, 2013 04:59 PM (V70Uh)

 

 

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I didn't hear the interview, but I did see the caption underneath that said arctic ice has increased 50% since this time last year.  So I guess that's all I really needed to know.  Not some eco-tard trying to 'splain it away.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 01:02 PM (zMOM1)

126 Mega Millions estimate now up to $636 million.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 17, 2013 01:02 PM (TI3xG)

127 Mega Millions estimate now up to $636 million. Posted by: The Hickster at December 17, 2013 05:02 PM (TI3xG) That should cover my nut for at least a year

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 17, 2013 01:03 PM (t3UFN)

128 128 Mega Millions estimate now up to $636 million.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 17, 2013 05:02 PM (TI3xG)

 

Almost enough to hit the deductible in my bronze plan!

Posted by: Austin in TX at December 17, 2013 01:04 PM (lKVc4)

129 Almost enough to hit the deductible in my bronze plan!

Posted by: Austin in TX at December 17, 2013 05:04 PM (lKVc4)

 

 

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Soon.

Posted by: Federal Reserve at December 17, 2013 01:05 PM (zMOM1)

130
Mega Millions estimate now up to $636 million.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 17, 2013 05:02 PM (TI3xG)

Almost enough to hit the deductible in my bronze plan!

Posted by: Austin in TX at December 17, 2013 05:04 PM (lKVc4)







Or a loaf of bread next year.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 17, 2013 01:07 PM (TIIx5)

131 Why is his column called "The Plum Line"?  Is it supposed to reference the idea of a straight line? As in giving you the story "straight", meaning accurately?

If that's what it's meant to be, it should be "The Plumb Line".

Which means he was too lazy to even get the title of his own column correct.

Which menas he's an idiot of the highest order.

But I had to dig realllllllllllly deep to find that.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 17, 2013 01:07 PM (wtvvX)

132 That should cover my nut for at least a year Half sack underwear?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 01:07 PM (IoTdl)

133 A.B.C. Always. Be. Campaigning.

Posted by: weft cut-loop
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In these here parts it just stands for Alcoholic Beverage Control.

And being after 5PM, it's time for a snort.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 17, 2013 01:07 PM (4Mv1T)

134 The weasel was saying that while the arctic is colder, it's hotter in other places to make up for it.

This issue isn't change.  It's their lack of accepting the role of the Sun.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 17, 2013 01:08 PM (V70Uh)

135 You have nothing to fear from Barack Obama in the White House. Posted by: Senator John McCain at December 17, 2013 04:48 PM (5ikDv) Yes, it's a sock, but FUCK YOU, John. Gosh, that felt good... Posted by: Insomniac at December 17, 2013 04:49 PM (DrWcr) LOL. That would be like me telling John McCain he has nothing to fear from these bamboo shoots under his fingernails.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 17, 2013 01:09 PM (yz6yg)

136

OT:  "Mystery  Illness Kills 4 in Texas"   on Drudge.

 

Great.  Captain Trips is here and ready to par-tay.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 17, 2013 01:10 PM (BAS5M)

137 Why won't he ask the simple question?"What impact does that star 8 light-minutes away play?

Only a rube who denies science could possibly think that an energy input into a system has any effect on the thermodynamics of that system.

O_o

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 17, 2013 01:10 PM (ZKzrr)

138 I had a conversation with a guy a few days back about the general economy. Out of the blue he started to rant about how hard he worked for "his election". He "knew" people in Washington.  Connections!  Huh, I thought.  Who are you talking about, I asked.  "He's worse than Nixon!"  Who? "He .. ohhh..Obama!".  He had to cough it out.  "A betrayal!"  And the reason for his apostasy?  NSA eavesdropping. 

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2013 01:10 PM (HjPtV)

139 The weasel was saying that while the arctic is colder, it's hotter in other places to make up for it.

This issue isn't change. It's their lack of accepting the role of the Sun.>>

Or as we called it when I was a kid The Seasons.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 17, 2013 01:12 PM (TI3xG)

140 First shots across the bow at the Mia Love campaign from the Utah dems comes form a statement by Jim Debakis, Utah state senator. She's in bed with the tea party which is too extreme for Utah, she's wrong for Utah, blah blah blah. I sense fear. They were relying on Matheson to hold on, big time.

Hatch's old campaign manager volunteered to head her team this time. I'm afraid he's gonna do her like the McCain campaign did Palin, ie muzzle her, but hopefully not. He will make sure that the "too extreme" handle the dems are trying to put on her won't hold water, but hopefully keep in the forefront the enthusiasm and passion that is so great about her.

Posted by: LizLem, who has Love for Mia at December 17, 2013 01:12 PM (BF+2f)

141 I saw the Chinks In Armor open for Cheap Trick at Budokan.. awesome!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 17, 2013 01:12 PM (f9c2L)

142 And this metaphor makes me want pie.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 17, 2013 01:12 PM (ZKzrr)

143 I don't recall abandoning Bush until more like late into his seventh year. I didn't like his liberal spending (No Bar Set Too Low, Medicare Part "Please have more money that we have to borrow," and his other RINOfests), but I didn't abandon him until Too Big To Fail, TARP, and other such "I saved the economy the old fashioned way - I threw money at it" garbage. A fundamental difference: we turned on Bush because he revealed himself to be Conservative. He wasn't dumb, and isn't dumb - he's just a RINO. A nice RINO, unlike McStain, and a RINO with some integrity - but a RINO nonetheless. Bush is no boy scout... no POTUS is, but he was generally honest, and our allies could trust him. Obama, OTOH, is a liar, a fool, and a SCOAMF. Nobody believes him, locally, nationally, or globally. He's spineless, which is a common affliction of liars. If it weren't for identity politics, he's be widely reviled and rightly so. He has few, if any friends, and for good reason - he's a snake. I cannot imagine that he is pleasant to even be in the same room with. They said that Clinton, for all of his moral failings, was personally very like-able. You knew he was a liar, but he came across like a good'ol boy. "Bubba," indeed. Obama? A Chicago thug. Nothing more. The more the press actually report about this narcissist, the lower he will fall. Barring some national emergency that might "rally" people to him, Barry's natural traits should drive him ever deeper into the negative.

Posted by: RobM1981 at December 17, 2013 01:13 PM (zurJC)

144

Only a rube who denies science could possibly think that an energy input into a system has any effect on the thermodynamics of that system.

O_o

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 17, 2013 05:10 PM (ZKzrr)

Physics is sexist, an oppressive relic of the partriarchy.

Posted by: Some feminist at December 17, 2013 01:13 PM (DrWcr)

145 No matter how low hussein's poll numbers go, I still wonder how it's that high.

Posted by: Titanium at December 17, 2013 01:13 PM (JLKJJ)

146 Sorry - should read "Revealed himself to be a RINO."

Posted by: RobM1981 at December 17, 2013 01:13 PM (zurJC)

147 Ugh, this type of thing just makes me sick:
* Obama snarks to the tech CEOs that he wishes things (he) were as ruthlessly efficient as "House of Cards."
* Netflix CEO offers him a cameo on "House of Cards."

It's like they're living in an alternate universe, where, oh, I dunno, Obama didn't just preside over one of the biggest clusterfarks in US history - Obamacare - and it's a long way off from being resolved. And Obama got us into this whole mess through outright fraud: "If you like your plan, you can keep it!" But really, let's take some time off to play yourself on a friggin' TV show.

I hate these people. All of them.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2013 01:15 PM (ruxvM)

148 Heh, how about the cherry I picked boys?

Posted by: David Coverdale at December 17, 2013 01:16 PM (z/WO2)

149 Shut up facists!  We got the smarterest President evah and the most stunningly gorgus first lady evah!  THE END!

*SPIT*

Posted by: KayInMaine at December 17, 2013 01:21 PM (TS9aB)

150 147 No matter how low hussein's poll numbers go, I still wonder how it's that high I read that and re-read that and liked it. And I thought about it... How low is low enough for Barry? I guess I'd put the Charles Manson's of the world at the very bottom. Pedophiles, rapists, violent criminals, etc. - I can pretty well define the bottom. Then there are the very bad but not violent. Ideologues who are destroying my country, like Krugman, and just about everyone over at HuffPo, etc. And then there are the people in the middle. People above the prison gang, but below even the HuffPo gang. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Jesse Jackson comes to mind. Al Sharpton. Bill Ayers. Rahm Emmanuel. And I realize - to the degree that he has a "circle" at all, this is Obama's circle. This is the sewer pipe he lives in. So I guess that there is a "bottom" for him... but, Aye Carumba, it's barely above the prison gang...

Posted by: RobM1981 at December 17, 2013 01:23 PM (zurJC)

151

Posted by: RobM1981 at December 17, 2013 05:23 PM (zurJC)

 

 

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I think you're giving  Dear Leader and the dems  way too much character credit.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 01:25 PM (zMOM1)

152 No matter how low hussein's poll numbers go, I still wonder how it's that high. Posted by: Titanium at December 17, 2013 05:13 PM (JLKJJ) 99.9% of the black vote doesn't hurt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 17, 2013 01:25 PM (t3UFN)

153 99.9% of the black vote doesn't hurt --- The poll numbers within the black community aren't that high anymore. They're "only" 85% the last time I saw, but that's still a sizable loss in his bedrock demographic.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 01:26 PM (/Crba)

154 149 Ugh, this type of thing just makes me sick:
* Obama snarks to the tech CEOs that he wishes things (he) were as ruthlessly efficient as "House of Cards."
* Netflix CEO offers him a cameo on "House of Cards."

Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2013 05:15 PM (ruxvM)


I'm even more glad I cancelled Netflix. That's the same asshole who called Americans "too self-absorbed." Fuck him in the ear.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 17, 2013 01:31 PM (e4elg)

155 Just in time for this thread, everybody. I just "lost it" again with my lefty FB friend.

He was just going off about the healthcare industry. The man is intelligent but just refuses to see the obvious truths about Obamacare's already myriad failures. He finally just wrote that in his opinion the entire American healthcare industry should be nationalized and its leaders jailed.

That's when I basically responded (a) thanks for coming out as a Stalinist, and (b) please masturbate somewhere else, you're embarrassing the grownups.

Now he says he was just kidding and I went overboard. Pardon me if I take that with the entire Morton Salt inventory.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 17, 2013 01:33 PM (HVI5a)

156 Looking back at my 5:33pm missive, apparently my word of the day is "just."

Just shoot me. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 17, 2013 01:35 PM (HVI5a)

157 Now he says he was just kidding and I went overboard. I play a fun game at work sometimes. It's called who is most leftist. Get a leftie talking about any of their hot-button issues. Start suggesting extreme lefty solutions. Whenever they suggest one, go harder left. The game ends when you find their limits. It usually doesn't end quickly.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 01:40 PM (44jNh)

158

"...liberal support for Obama has collapsed hard. "

 

Tired themselves out after 4 hours of fapping on Viagra to their Barry posters?

Posted by: wth at December 17, 2013 01:44 PM (wAQA5)

159 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 17, 2013 05:10 PM (ZKzrr)

Yes that doofus Rush Limbaugh was the first know-nothing that mentioned that it just might be possible that the Sun had an impact on Earth's temperatures.  What a jerk!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 17, 2013 01:46 PM (o3MSL)

160 Rebounding for 20 points against the young is fine for a White House pickup basketball game, but it sucks when you're talking about voters going into a mid-term election that can cement a president's lame duck status for two full years.

Posted by: Manolo at December 17, 2013 03:23 PM (myV+q)

161

Greg Sargent is the worst.  I have a visceral dislike of him, and I never met him.  He is what is wrong with politics today.

 

Posted by: biff at December 18, 2013 06:12 AM (8DvKo)

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