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WHAT DOES IT MATTER!?

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Is the WH preventing them from speaking?  How is that even possible?  Are these people literally being guarded by the FBI and they aren't allowed to talk?  Don't get it.

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Posted by Ace at 10:36 AM

 

Posted by: Ace at 11:03 AM

 

Interesting.  It is too late in the morning for him to have been up all night,  and  yet too early in the day for him to have woken up like normal.

 

This is almost disquieting.

 

 

 

4 They could meet with the  various  national  security  committees  behind closed doors.   The preclusion to speak because of  sensitive issues would be a moot point.   

5

No.... it does matter if they were secretly arming the Syrians... this is TAX money... and at this point there is no reason to keep this secret except that it will embarass Obama...

 

Ask Oliver North about arming rebels on the sly....

6 All of politics is now the accumulation of Slush Funds.  The Truth would reveal too many hiding places, so no go to The Truth.

7 >>>Is the WH preventing them from speaking? How is that even possible? Most (all?) of these people have classified-type jobs and they're being told they can't talk about what happened, or they'll face prosecution. Or I don't know if they're told that last part in so many words. They're being made to known that such a thing could happen. So isn't it just better to shut up about it?

8
So Bammy is more apt to help out Al Qaeda than US citizens, because: Republicans.

What the fuck is going on in this country???

9 Obviously an election year is coming up.

10 All of politics is now the accumulation of Slush Funds. The Truth would reveal too many hiding places, so no go to The Truth. Ain't that the truth.

11 Funny how we heard every detail regardless of its sensitivity the very split second Obama "got" Bin Laden. Suddenly, when there's a potential for The One to maybe not look so brilliant, sensitivity to State secrets is a big issue.

12 I can only assume ace is still up from last night.

13 yeah I fell asleep early last night... by like 3:30 am. "Early." I had gotten sick a couple of weeks ago and my sleep schedule got even more effed up than it had been. I adjusted it a little by opening my blinds up so the sun would wake me up, and also, alcohol.

14 The only legit reason that the WH could have for not lettng these people speak is that they have something to hide. But we knew that already, didn't we...

15 It took quite a while but Graham has finally said something with which I agree.  I'm glad he specifically called out Boehner so that boozy fuck can't claim ignorance about what he's supposed to do.

16 Oh yay I hit the banned phone ip again. Bastards.

17

This is also the Administration that managed to Loose a US Aircraft, during the Illegal bombing of Libya... and somehow kept it secret.... at least from the AMERICAN Press.

 

Why?  because getting that plane shot down would have made the public ask why the hell we were there at all....

 

Thus, the American Press, if they knew, were complicit in Obama's Illegal War in Libya (which did not follow the War Powers Act... nor have any justification under the War on Terror... and WAS against the UN Charter, which has the force of US Law as a Treaty).

18 i hate graham but he is right on this

19 How exactly would somebody who has a sensitive position be prohibited from talking about something that happened in PUBLIC and had nothing to do with their normal sensitive position duties? Oh wait, I know the answer. And I read somewhere some of the survivors are under fake names at Walter Reed.

20

Obama is the  fascistic thug that the liberals frothed themselves into a rage, imagining Bush to be.

 

There are NO leaks out  of this administration.  None.

 

Add in his  ability to smother reporting or investigation  of his  smuggling thousands of weapons to fucking  drug lords to his fleet of Flying Murder-bots,  killing poor brown people by the thousands,  and you don't hear a PEEP from the media or liberals online  - it's fucking crazytime.

 

 

21 We can only hope that Rand Paul doesn't filibuster anything or Graham will have to let this go. 

22 Most transparent administration EVAH!!!

23 The White House is capitalizing on the "nobody cares" aspect of this whole thing.

What people don't realize, it seems, is that Hillary's state we all love to mock was itself a canny (and quite intentional) summary of the zeitgeist surrounding this scandal: the American people Could Not Give Less Of A Fuck.  To most people, it's a footnote to the election campaign, a 'political' scandal that's no more relevant than "47%" or any of the other bullshit from back then.

Don't bother telling me that this is an outrageous state of affairs.  Or that this is really a far bigger deal than that.  I know.  I get it.  I agree.  But truthfully, this isn't going to get anywhere, not just because the media is in the tank for Obama (they are), but because the American people don't give a shit either.

Sorry to be all cynical.

24 Linseed.  Very oily and untrustworthy.  Hey, Linseed, which Georgetown cocktail party tonite? 

25 Obama truly is a Thug in Chief. The fact not one of them has come forward, after more than six months, or been interviewed is telling.

26

"Most (all?) of these people have classified-type jobs and they're being told they can't talk about what happened, or they'll face prosecution. "

 

I'm not sure about the State Dept procedures so couldn't say.  Perhaps they are made a sign an all encompassing NDA.  From my own experience with the military though security clearances and confidentiality only cover specific things and there is no confusion about what those things are.  Being involved in a terrorist attack like this wouldn't have anything to do with the confidentiality of whatever work this person was involved with inside the embassy... unless said work was specifically related to the attack... which would be rather interesting.

 

27 So you think they have a story that they'd like to share with us, and that what holds them back is a threat from the administration. Or else they'd totally tell us.

What a strange thing to think.

(If only Eichmann knew!)

28 >>>Obama is the fascistic thug that the liberals frothed themselves into a rage, imagining Bush to be.

>>>There are NO leaks out of this administration. None.

This is a good point, but it's worth pointing that there WERE leaks early on -- and of course there are still tons of intentional, politically-targeted "leaks" (not the sort of things we're thinking about, however).  What happened is that the Obama administration has been more vigorous about prosecuting, both criminally and professionally, leakers and whistleblowers than any previous administration.  This is occasionally remarked upon by the media (I've seen it mentioned in POLITICO every now and again), but not dwelt upon because of course That Would Be Gauche.

29 What's the deal, clingers?  It isn't like everybody hasn't uhh heard stories about crossing the border into Cahanadah before.

30 OT: Obama's speech is awful - "factions?" : "There is no question that Israel has faced Palestinian factions who turned to terror, and leaders who missed historic opportunities."

31 What the White House could just do is tell these people "You can't talk about the covert arms operation (even though everyone, and I mean everyone, already knows about it, but whatever) but you can talk about the attack itself, and we won't arrest you for that." But they're not doing that. They're telling these people know that anything they say might be grounds for prosecution.

32

Ace, just to clarify something...

 

When you say "Al Qaeda knows all about the details of its operation, after all" that's true, but that's not the standard by which classified information is protected.  The danger here could (just pulling a reason out of my ass) be to let AQ know just what *we* know, which is intelligence in and of itself.

 

A lousy analogy:  the Russkies know all about the details of their plans for Eastern Europe, so what's the harm in us talking about them?

 

33 Sorry to be all cynical. Posted by: Jeff B. at March 21, 2013 11:15 AM (/COnL) Hmm. Does it count as cynical if you are merely stating an accurate observation of reality? Shall ponder. Oh and BC, thank you for asking after me in the thread below. Am fine, just having a bit of A Day. Misplaced rage ftw! (Epic awful work stuff from a year ago that's still having ramifications and I had to make nice nice with person A who totally fucked over person B and person A is now trying to play the victim and arrrrrggghhh) On the other hand, under an hour until the start of my High Holy Days, so there's that.

34 >>>Linseed. Very oily and untrustworthy. Hey, Linseed, which Georgetown cocktail party tonite?

Graham is a dick, and I'm still pissed about his dismissing of Rand Paul's filibuster, but give credit where it's due: he has ALWAYS, ALWAYS been a rottweiler on these sorts of issues agains the Obama administration.  You could fill up hours with highlight reels of him eviscerating Obama administration appointees during Senate hearings about national security matters.  He's a prosecutor by trade, so it's something he's incredibly good at.

Not offering an endorsement or anything, but these politicians are more than cartoon Heroes and Villains and the fact is Graham has been way, way out in front in holding Team Obama's feet to the fire.

35 So he took a beating over his slapping down Rand Paul and decided to correct his image and ask for the survivors....it's all political gamesmanship.  Graham is a shitty little man with a goofy ass smile....With his beloved "seniority" he should have been screaming this from the roof tops a looong time ago but decided to keep it in his pocket until he needed to wipe off some egg....I'm not impressed

36 The MFM is extremely selective on which "whistleblowers" they'll provide cover for.  Just ask Linda Tripp.

37


Anyone else think Barry's Pimposine fueling problem was not an accident?

It sure was interesting...

38 I do not like Graham except on this issue. I hope he keeps fighting.

Last night (I think?) on FOX News 6pm, Brett Baier, after the spot by Katherine Herridge, offered for any survivor to call FOX.

Hey, Jay! It ain't going away. My hope(s) are that
1) The truth will be made public for the men who died
2) The truth will be made public to protect others in the future
3) Le Jug-Eared-Pidgeon-Toed imp is shown in true light of a) not caring at 5pm with meeting w/Panetta et all and either slept or was chemically out to lunch...but NOT answering that 3am call
4) Hilary is shown in true light as a) failing to protect embassies, after repeated requests and on NINE ELEVEN (yes, I capitalize, bite me); and b) ruining her chances of 2016 in spite of her new upcoming plastic surgery and cankle transplants
5) The mainstream lying US media is fully exposed to the world of how they lie to protect Le Jug-Ear. I want the media to go down, baby. The UK press had the truth on 9/12/12 that this was a terror attack, that they were warned, and that the British embassy had left in June.

39 The NYTimes and the WaPo were constantly publishing state secrets when W was Prez. Now they are whores to That Fucking Prick in the WH. In a just world, every last employee of both papers would die of shame. ATTENTION SMOD- Please target 38 54 15N, 77 02 06W 40 45 43N, 73 59 24W

40 I don't give Graham any breaks. He goes one day acting like a damn liberal Democrat then he remembers he is up for reelection and it would look funny if they ran out of ballots at 10 am in Myrtle Beach again in the primary so he makes a "conservative" statement. 


Piss on him

41 >>>When you say "Al Qaeda knows all about the details of its operation, after all" that's true, but that's not the standard by which classified information is protected. The danger here could (just pulling a reason out of my ass) be to let AQ know just what *we* know, which is intelligence in and of itself. The survivors can talk about their direct observations, which of course AQ knows they know. They can also -- must also -- talk about intelligence about upcoming threats which were ignored, and calls for help which went unanswered. Oftentimes this claim that we "don't want our enemies to know" is a false flag for "we don't want our voters to know."

42 21 We can only hope that Rand Paul doesn't filibuster anything or Graham will have to let this go. Posted by: no good deed at March 21, 2013 11:15 AM (oB7O2) *golf clap*

43 I've figured out the AofS post pattern. A Lindsey Graham post is always followed by a Lena Dunham post. Brace yourselves, and if you really want to dissuade him... HIT THE TIP JAR.

44

Congressional oversight. 

 

Stop talking, and actually do something. 

45 have not read comment thread yet. But immunity from prosecution isn't the issue. If their friends and family have been threatened, the Chicago way, they will never talk.

46 Issa will hold another hearing.

47 The White House is capitalizing on the "nobody cares" aspect of this whole thing.

Pretty much.

The average voter thinks that Benghazi is some sort of topical ointment for old people.

I also suspect that the survivors aren't just being coerced into keeping quiet- my guess is that they don't really want to talk.  At least one of them would've anonymously leaked by now if they were chomping at the bit to testify.

48 30 OT: Obama's speech is awful - "factions?" : "There is no question that Israel has faced Palestinian factions who turned to terror, and leaders who missed historic opportunities." --- "[L]eaders who missed historic opportunities"? The Palestinians as a whole are typified by their ability to never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. It wasn't just Arafat.

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Oh and BC, thank you for asking after me in the thread below. Am fine, just having a bit of A Day. Misplaced rage ftw! (Epic awful work stuff from a year ago that's still having ramifications and I had to make nice nice with person A who totally fucked over person B and person A is now trying to play the victim and arrrrrggghhh)

On the other hand, under an hour until the start of my High Holy Days, so there's that.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at March 21, 2013 11:21 AM (VtjlW)

Just wanted to check on ya! Yeah, I'm having A Week. Monday started with discovering that I'd ordered about $2000 worth of the wrong material. And that material was supposed to be completely installed by end of day Monday. Yesterday's highlight was loading material into my truck and crushing my finger tip between two rolls of wallcovering. I think I made up a few new words.

50 O/T

Why is Obama addressing young people at the Jerusalem Civic Center but not the Knesset? He addressed the Turkish General Assembly, so why not stand before the Israeli Knesset? Listening to PM Netanyahu address a joint session of Congress was a highlight for me. Look at President Obama's actions amidst the deteriorating neighborhood surrounding Israel as the true reflection of his policy – not the empty words of yet another teleprompted speech.


--Allen West on Facebook

51 The one thing that has occurred to me:

The real reason that the White House will never, ever let this stuff really be aired out short of a massive shitstorm of media pressure and legal compulsion?  It was part of their Deal With Hillary.

By which I mean: she played good soldier for the first term, and they would cover her ass and support her in 2016.  I'll be pessimistic again and say that I think that if Hillary runs in 2016 she's a guaranteed presidential winner (oh you thought the gender gap was bad before?  JUST WAIT).  What's the only thing that could potentially derail her?  Something truly noxious, like: Hillary Clinton intentionally let our people die in Libya for political reasons.  Or she was "asleep at the wheel." 

So since Clinton played for the team, Obama & Co. will do everything they can to prevent this from damaging her run in 2016.

52 OR, put $50 in the jar so ace can buy her a really nice veggie cheesesteak and a six pack of Old Style.

53 >Issa will hold another hearing. Posted by: Vic at March 21, 2013 11:26 AM (53z96) yeah he really bitch-slapped Holder on F&F, huh

54

"The survivors can talk about their direct observations, which of course AQ knows they know.

They can also -- must also -- talk about intelligence about upcoming threats which were ignored, and calls for help which went unanswered.

Oftentimes this claim that we "don't want our enemies to know" is a false flag for "we don't want our voters to know.""

 

Oftentimes, maybe, but not all the time.

 

Carrying this forward a little...AQ doesn't (necessarily) know what the survivors saw, or think they saw.  There is intelligence value in keeping the enemy's knowledge of what we observed purposefully vague.  Yes, they know what they did, but they don't necessary know if *we* know the full scope of what happened.

 

Heck, it's not unreasonable for me to believe that maybe a survivor observed something that made a couple of dots click in his head that, if he talked about it, could expose an intelligence source.  Maybe he says "That guy who runs the falafel stand down the road, Jimmy Mahmoud, tried to warn me about this attack" without realizing that Jimmy is a mole who is going to now get his head cut off by the local thugocracy.

 

The main thing I'm trying to say is that just because there's an attack doesn't mean every testimony about that attack is suddenly declassified. 

55 He isn't addressing the Knesset because he is still campaigning.  This speech is horrible, and I don't think he would have gotten away with it there.  He chose to speak to the "young people."  You know, the ones with all of the hope. 

56 Hmm.  Looting Libyan weapons caches to sell to Syrian rebels just might piss off the locals enough to bring on an attack.  Methinks the State Dept. tried to cut "someone" out of the deal.

57 yeah he really bitch-slapped Holder on F&F, huh

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 21, 2013 11:27 AM (8sCoq)

Yeah, and Grahamnesty has been a total pit bull and gotten all kinds of answers out of TFG's admin on........

58 So he took a beating over his slapping down Rand Paul and decided to correct his image and ask for the survivors....it's all political gamesmanship.

Yep.  This is a very Low Risk ploy- he gets to throw a bone to the base without offending any faction other than partisan Obama (and Hillary) supporters.

I don't expect that this will lead anywhere.

59 just like the old saying: even a stopped cock is right twice a day

60

Issa agrees, saying, “Any kind of retaliation against any of the witnesses we’ve already had would not be tolerated.

 

You mean like the retaliation the F and F whistleblower has suffered,   which appears to have been tolerated pretty well?    Or the various   independent    IGs who have lost their jobs after publishing reports    that weren't   100%  flattering of the "Administration?"

 

Graham urges subpoenas

 

Again, this has worked so well with F and F, hasn't   it?   We're just rolling in information about that little operation!

 

I agree that Graham and Issa should push this,     I'm just pretty damn sure nothing will come of it.   Hopefully   I'm     being overly cynical.    Benghazi   NEEDS to be investigated,   to the darkest depths.

 

61 Miss Lindsey has to play a role to keep a place at the trough.  Don't read anything more into this.

62 - it's fucking crazytime.


He's the one they were waiting for.

63 Is the WH preventing them from speaking? How is that even possible?

***

Ve haff vay of makink you not talk.

64 Oh, they can speak, Lindsey, just not abvout Benghazi. 

65

To be fair to Grahamnesty,   he's been pretty solid on pushing the Benghazi issue and demanding answers.   He hasn't been particularly effective,   but it's not like    he only just     turned into a pitbull on this issue. 

66 Just wanted to check on ya! Yeah, I'm having A Week. Monday started with discovering that I'd ordered about $2000 worth of the wrong material. And that material was supposed to be completely installed by end of day Monday. Yesterday's highlight was loading material into my truck and crushing my finger tip between two rolls of wallcovering. I think I made up a few new words. Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 21, 2013 11:26 AM (da5Wo) *slides over lemon bar and cupcake* Gaaaah. Could you at least return the material and/or warehouse it for another project? This morning's other fun was getting a call from a court reporter all chirpily calling to confirm the reporter for a hearing that morning and I nearly had a heart attack because yes, my boss was at a hearing, but, no, we didn't order a reporter. Turned out she called the wrong office and was incredibly apologetic because holy shit I nearly hyperventilated. Those in the legal field know that wonderful joy of everyone showing up for a deposition except the court reporter. Good times, good times.

67 Posted by Ace at 10:36 AM

Posted by: Ace at 11:03 AM

Interesting. It is too late in the morning for him to have been up all night, and yet too early in the day for him to have woken up like normal.

This is almost disquieting.

Wasn't one of those tips in How to Win Friends and Influence People something like "give them a positive image to live up to"? Maybe he feels guilt about the reward, and is trying to ex post facto "earn" it. Let's see how long that lasts.

68 > Is the WH preventing them from speaking? How is that even possible? All it takes is a worshipful partisan press in bed with the White House

69 i hate graham but he is right on this

***

Impairs my theory, however, that Graham more resembles a misaligned sundial that is never right than a broken clock.

70
Offering the survivors a cheesesteak isn't going to cut it when either their life and families lives have been threatened, or they just have to wait a few years for the password to a well funded bank account.

The Chicago Way is the first thing to remember when analyzing this administration.

71

Instead of bothering the survivors, we could ask Joe Wilson, Valerie Plame's husband, to go over to Libya and find out what happened. 

 

He seems like a trustworthy fellow.

72 >To be fair to Grahamnesty, he's been pretty solid on pushing the Benghazi issue and demanding answers. He hasn't been particularly effective, it's important to Graham that he appears serious

73 The threat of a subpoena would carry so much more weight if our government had any respect for the fucking law.

74 The Senate already rolled over for Hillary, hiding behind secret secrets that must remain secret even though we already know the secret. Who's zooming who here?

75 Think about how the Mafia tampers with witnesses. Theres only one way to get a guy like a professional operator to shut up. Find out what he loves and threaten the shit out of it.

76 I can't find the article about the Japanese survivor of Midway who came home to Japan, and the Kampetai put them into lockdown so they couldn't talk about getting their ass kicked.

77 Al Qaeda knows all about the details of its operation, after all.

While this is true, they might not yet know how much or little we know about it. Generally, you don't even want the enemy to know what you know about them. They change tactics if they know you know too much about their current ones.

But that is still BS in this case. Everyone knows we're hapless morons on the Benghazi issue, because our president doesn't want even himself to know the facts.

78 ". I guarantee if this had been a good news story we would have heard from them the next day" Not if Obama didn't Want it reported no.

79 it's important to Graham that he appears serious

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 21, 2013 11:38 AM (8sCoq)

 

Hard to do with that face of his.

80 Thirsty. So very thirsty ...

81 76 Think about how the Mafia tampers with witnesses. Theres only one way to get a guy like a professional operator to shut up. Find out what he loves and threaten the shit out of it.

Posted by: gushie can has kittehs at March 21, 2013 11:38 AM (iNLlj

This.  "Nice family ya got there..." etc.  The Chicago way.

82 >Hard to do with that face of his. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 21, 2013 11:39 AM (4df7R) He DOES look like the creepy neighbor in a really bad After School Special

83

The second part of the sentence blows up the first part.

 

And seems just a little bit psychotic,  too.

84 Didn't Lindsey recently have a chance to get tough with the Admin but then voted to confirm Brennan because Rand Paul upset him?  He's not a serious person and will fold on this issue as well.

85 He DOES look like the creepy neighbor in a really bad After School Special

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 21, 2013 11:40 AM (8sCoq

In a few years he'll give off that Harry Reid pederast vibe.

86

I'm still waiting to hear from the guys who were on Kerry's Swift Boat.  They were at the Democrat convention that year, but no one has heard a word from them since.

 

 

87 http://tinyurl.com/d6yh7o3 (WahPoo)

Barky gettin the public up to speed:

A panel of White House advisers warned President Obama in a secret report that U.S. spy agencies were paying inadequate attention to China, the Middle East and other national security flash points because they had become too focused on military operations and drone strikes, U.S. officials said.

White House advisers

secret report

U.S. officials

oh my

88 Taking the guns of the law abiding because of criminals or insane killers is like taking away your driver license because of Ted Kennedy

89 Gaaaah. Could you at least return the material and/or warehouse it for another project?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at March 21, 2013 11:35 AM (VtjlW)

There are literally thousands upon thousands of different wallcovering materials out there. So storing it, at our loss, in the hopes that someone would pick it again is a no go.

As for returning, it depends. If it's a special order, hell no. This was not a special order thank goodness. However, manufacturers typically will charge a "restocking fee", which I've seen go as high as 50%. Guy I talked to said theirs is normally 30%, but because I was essentially doing an exchange (wrong material for right material, same amount and price) he thought he could get it waived or reduced. We shall see.

Oooooo....scheduling snafu's are always fun.

90 Piss on him

Posted by: Vic at March 21, 2013 11:22 AM (53z96)

Yes finally , I'm ready for my closeup.

91 were paying inadequate attention to China,
the Middle East and other national security flash points because they
had become too focused on military operations and drone strikes

***

I could have sworn the Obamas were too focused on Beyonce's bouncing ass.

92 Graham is the GOP's answer to Chuck "fucknut" Schumer.... another attention whore that just loves to be in front of a camera, preening for the media.

93 WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

94 Jay Carney is an insufferable little shit.  I'm sure he has a job waiting at CNN when this debacle is over.

95 Taking the guns of the law abiding because of criminals or insane killers is like taking away your driver license because of Ted Kennedy

***

Mark Steyn repeated some similar snark.  Illegal immigration is to immigration as shoplifting is to shopping.

96

A panel of White House advisers warned President Obama in a secret
report

 

Fucking Christ(iane Amanpour).

 

And now we're back to the Leakiest Administration That Ever Leaked leaking again.   Even though this PARTICULAR leak is a nice burn of the Preezy, what it says to ME is that there is absolutely no love lost, and no trust, between the White House and intelligence officials.   That's not a     comforting thought     when you've got a thin-skinned   toddler pretending to be President   who will happily ignore anything the Big Mean Intelligence Officials say because they    made him take a time out.    

 

Really, I'm looking forward to being vaporized by an Iranian nuke because Obammy decided to delete his daily iPad intelligence briefing    out of spite    because someone at the CIA insulted his    ears.

97 obama hit all the bullshit high points in his speech to a "select" group of Israeli students: 2 States, Israel a Jewish State, Need for 2 States for Israel to stay Jewish, Walk a mile in Pali shoes, or the children the children, and on and on. AND SO? And of course it is the "And So" that obama and the liberals have no answer to or give any thought to before they open their big fact ignorant mouths

98 I don't care if noboday cares. Go after it anyway. A journey of a thousand miles begins with one step.

99 You have to remember that the United States Senate is all political theater. The actors strut back and forth and say their lines for the audience, and the cameras. And at the end of the performance everyone goes across the street for drinks. Done.

100 Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 21, 2013 11:43 AM (da5Wo)

You hiring?  I'm seeking another career opportunity.

I've decided that being jerked around by shallow, narcissistic fuckwads is no longer a growth industry.

101 It's like I have a reelection coming up. Right?

102 They only have to threaten the witness's with something that would embarrass them, as Petreaus was?

Also I had heard a rumor of Cheney lying about something and The threats again of courts?

anyone know what the context of that is?

103 96 Jay Carney is an insufferable little shit. I'm sure he has a job waiting at CNN when this debacle is over.



I'd love to smack the smug douchiness off his evil little face.


And yes, he'd fit in perfectly at CNN or MSDNC.

104 I've decided that being jerked around by shallow, narcissistic fuckwads is no longer a growth industry.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 21, 2013 11:49 AM (sbV1u)

You had enough of government work too?

105 >what it says to ME is that there is absolutely no love lost, and no trust, between the White House and intelligence officials. what is says to me is, the professional spooks see a shitstorm coming and they want to put as much distance between Langley and the WH as possible

106 You had enough of government work too?Posted by: DC in Towson at March 21, 2013 11:50 AM (P47hr)

Bingo.

I've had it.

107 95, und 'Arbeit Macht Frei' if...

108 Goober says something of value.

109 aww damn it.

110 You hiring? I'm seeking another career opportunity.

I've decided that being jerked around by shallow, narcissistic fuckwads is no longer a growth industry.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 21, 2013 11:49 AM (sbV1u)

I wish. We just laid off some of our guys about two weeks ago.

111

::::I'd love to smack the smug douchiness off his evil little face.::::

 

You'd hit a guy wearing glasses?

112 Now now...the reason that the people on the ground can't testify is obvious: our Ambassador in Benghazi is negotiating secretly with the other side of the dispute. For instance it has already been revealed that he had negotiated how far his body would be dragged through the street - so it is obvious that there are other top secret items in the ongoing negotiations - mustn't joggle any diplomatic elbows.

Nothing to see here - move along.


White House press release

113 However Bannion, if you can learn to hang wallcovering, we'll be glad to hire you as an IC. Our current paperhanger is......old and has been sniffing wallpaper paste for far too long.

114 unprecedented..."suddenly" Benghazi? Uh, fuk-Argo w/o Washington back-up.

115 You'd hit a guy wearing glasses?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 21, 2013 11:55 AM (CJjw5)

No, but I'd beat the fuck outa Carney.

116 This is the game the White House is playing: This is the game the WH is always playing. Be it on missile defense, gay marriage, gun rights, health care, what-have-you. Always playing both sides of the fence 24/7. Talking out of both sides of the mouth. Clusterfark of confusion. People will see and hear what they want to hear and see that way.

117

Is there  anyone that enjoys hearing from Graham? 

 

Carney = Obama.  They shop for mom jeans and girl's bikes together.

 

 

118 However Bannion, if you can learn to hang wallcovering, we'll be glad to hire you as an IC. Our current paperhanger is......old and has been sniffing wallpaper paste for far too long.Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 21, 2013 11:56 AM (da5Wo)

See....here's the deeply attractive part of that.

At the end of the day you look around and can say to yourself...."Hey, I did that."

Unlike my current occupation.....

119 Graham urges subpoenas: Can we trust Issa will follow through on THIS.

120 Anyone else think Barry's Pimposine fueling problem was not an accident? It sure was interesting... ------------------------------------------------------------ that story stinks. I don't buy any of it- and I still think the thing runs on diesel, not gas. More likely that the SS had a specific attack threat involving the car and changed things up last minute.

121 You hiring? I'm seeking another career opportunity. I've decided that being jerked around by shallow, narcissistic fuckwads is no longer a growth industry. Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 21, 2013 11:49 AM (sbV1u) *waves paw* BC, for to share the lemon bars and cupcake. In other news, the reason the Hillary shriek of what does it matter bothers the hell out of me is because I would like for this never to happen again. You know what? My first concern on this isn't the politics. It's that a US Ambassador and three other men were slaughtered when a consulate was attacked. We have to find out how it happens so it doesn't happen again. That we are to the point that this is a controversial statement makes me want to weep.

122 113 ::::I'd love to smack the smug douchiness off his evil little face.::::

You'd hit a guy wearing glasses?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 21, 2013 11:55 AM (CJjw5

In Carney's case, yes.  Yes, I would.  I'm kind of a bitch that way.

123 "The press just rolls over for Obama on this. They want people kept in the dark. The only people being prevented from knowing "state secrets" are the American public." Right. The American public wants to be kept in the dark. Just keep the Free Shit coming.

124 Too bad Ouija boards don't actually work.

125 Is there any wonder there are cheering sections for Anonymous and Hackers Inc.?

126 “We’ll make sure of that. That is whistle bower standard protection. If they’re fired for talking to us, there’ll be some hell to pay.” Worked wonders with the DOJ whistleblowers...

127 Wonder if Chuckie Todd is still all butt-hurt over his boyfriend?

128 I guess the only positive i can see with Benghazi is they haven't found a way to blame Bush or Republicans. At least i believe so otherwise this would all be an  open book.

129 Blah, blah, blah. Lyndsey Graham is a non-starter. Nothing happens, Obama skates.

130 Simpler: Why doesn't Graham just tell us what he found out after meeting with them.

131 See....here's the deeply attractive part of that.

At the end of the day you look around and can say to yourself...."Hey, I did that."

Unlike my current occupation.....

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 21, 2013 11:58 AM (sbV1u)

Very true. However, the construction industry? Nothing but assholes who all think only their project exists and you exist to do what they want, when they want.

*waves paw* BC, for to share the lemon bars and cupcake.

Gladly.

In other news, the reason the Hillary shriek of what does it matter bothers the hell out of me is because I would like for this never to happen again. You know what? My first concern on this isn't the politics. It's that a US Ambassador and three other men were slaughtered when a consulate was attacked. We have to find out how it happens so it doesn't happen again. That we are to the point that this is a controversial statement makes me want to weep.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at March 21, 2013 11:59 AM (VtjlW)

Right wing zealot.

132 Hadn't they wrote new legislation or attempted to  re; Whistlblowers?

133 What an absolute disgrace... Not only do we have an "administration" caught red handed LYING (the real kind that democrats love to scream Republicans are doing) about an act of terror, but then to try and cover up their huge failure by not permitting the survivors of said cluster fuck to speak? Every day I ask myself "what if a Republican were in office right now..." I know the answer to the question, it's just sad that our media is so in the tank for Democrats that they are willing to literally ignore the deaths that are a direct result of their propagandizing for this complete FAILURE of a president.

134

Right.
The American public wants to be kept in the dark.
Just keep the Free Shit coming.

 

and Vaginas

 

135 Sean, sorry your work is getting you down.

136 There will be hell to pay if they are fired?

Hahahahahaha, yea.... like there was after Walprin (sp?) was? Right....

137 Huh.  Just got an e-mail from the NRA.  They have a wine club.

138 More likely that the SS had a specific attack threat involving the car and changed things up last minute. Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at March 21, 2013 11:59 AM

If Jews just loved the Palestinian people more, they wouldn't have to do this.

139 Just keep the Free Shit coming. and Vaginas Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 21, 2013 12:03 PM (n8LUb)

Well....don't go all crazy on me there.

I'm conservative, but I'd like to keep the free vaginas coming too.

140 103 It's like I have a reelection coming up. Right? Posted by: Lindsey Graham Follow Francis' lead into prison to perform your good works. Lindsey, stay there for your own guilt rather than playing prison warden against America, releasing prisoners due to sequestration spite v. rule of law. Misery loves company? Get Obi to join you in the hell of your shared-values making.

141 Obama is the fascistic thug that the liberals frothed themselves into a rage, imagining Bush to be. sickenely, deeply, true

142 I wonder what an opaque administration would look like?

143 Huh. Just got an e-mail from the NRA. They have a wine club. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2013 12:04 PM

Piquant with jammy notes and hints of blackberry, spice and cordite.  Should age well, but is best consumed on the firing line.

144 Woot! Website is finally live! Click through the link in my name to bookmark the permanent home for my website. It may not have propagated to your corner of the Internet, in which case it will point to something else that looks like shit. But it will eventually revert back.

145 Just keep the Free Shit coming.

and Vaginas

***

I think the Yale thread proved free vagina is a thing of the past.

146 Guess we need to wait for the movie.

147 124 113
::::I'd love to smack the smug douchiness off his evil little face.::::



You'd hit a guy wearing glasses?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 21, 2013 11:55 AM (CJjw5

In Carney's case, yes. Yes, I would. I'm kind of a bitch that way.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2013 12:00 PM (UOM4

 ----------------------------------

I'll love to admit - THIS is an attractive quality in a woman.  My wife is that way too! Amen and amen! WTG Jane!

148 Huh. Just got an e-mail from the NRA. They have a wine club.

***

What goes with Glock?

149 At the end of the day you look around and can say to yourself...."Hey, I did that."

Unlike my current occupation..... Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 21, 2013 11:58 AM

If you've got a Green Card or a birth certificate, forget it, we ain't hirin'.

150 Didn't Hillary blame lax security on Republican spending cuts or something?


130 I guess the only positive i can see with Benghazi is they haven't found a way to blame Bush or Republicans. At least i believe so otherwise this would all be an open book.

Posted by: willow at March 21, 2013 12:01 PM (nqBYe)

151 Oh my... It keeps getting worse: Terrorism suspect has been secretly held in New York since October http://preview.tinyurl.com/ckec2cv

152 Will Boehner scream blood clot in brain like Shrillary did, and disappear for a while til it blows over?

153
150 Huh. Just got an e-mail from the NRA. They have a wine club.

***

What goes with Glock?

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 21, 2013 12:07 PM (XUKZU)

Liberty.

154 Didn't Hillary blame lax security on Republican spending cuts or something?

Posted by: Pyrocles at March 21, 2013 12:08 PM (cv5Iw)

sigh,

I had forgotten that.

155 When there is no honor among the country's leaders, there will be no honor among the citizens!

156 What goes with Glock?

Liberty

And a damn fine Beaujolias. 

157 What's the only thing that could potentially derail her? Something truly noxious, like: Hillary Clinton intentionally let our people die in Libya for political reasons. Or she was "asleep at the wheel." good points, but, nothing will take hillary down nothing

158 OR, put $50 in the jar so ace can buy her a really nice veggie cheesesteak and a six pack of Old Style. tell me how I can do this: anonymously no paper trail from abroad and, I'll do it

159

At This Point, What Possible Difference Does It Make!!!

 

(pounds table)

160

The morning after Nov. 6th,

My # 1,  who is back at home again after 13 years with the USMC and 5 combat tours and is staying with us while he finishes his degree, awoke early the next day to quickly retrive all of the lawn furniture scattered all over the front yard that his "Old Man" had HURLED over the fence after the election results became a dismal truth. He never said a thing about it.

Bengazi truely makes a fine "Blue Ribbon Blood Flecked Sash to wear over my own rage at this abortion of an election that was 2012.

Oh!

Have a fucking great day.... 

 

161 What's so "sensitive" about stamping passports at a consulate in Benghazi? Yeah, wasn't really a "consulate" was it? More like a CIA gun running operation no? So every single Republican and Democrat who have uttered the word "consulate" for the past 6 months in relation to Benghazi has been lying to the American people. So that bullshit interrogation by Congress of Hillary Clinton as to why she didn't protect "her employees" was just a dog & pony show for a gullible American public wasn't it?

162 I understand that Ace referred to witness immunity "by legislation", but if I recall correctly, the House of Representatives can issue immunity (with a majority vote) to witnesses without concurrence by the Senate or the Executive branch.

163

To Jane D'oh if you're still around:

 

Re: your post of last night, yes this is a scary time. Thinking of you and your family and hoping everyting sorts itself out.

164 Hillary Clinton has no responsibility for the security of CIA personnel in Benghazi. She was responsible for Stevens and that fag Comm. officer from Tripoli who was in Benghazi for "date night" with the Ambassador. Since there were diplomatic security officers with Stevens I would say Hillary did her job. They were simply overwhelmed by a freakin platoon-sized assault from well-trained fighters.

165 What if there really are no survivors and they were only able to recover four bodies?  No body, no murder...

166 How about the House putting the WH on notice that any retribution againt survivors who testify about what happened will be analyzed in the light of possible impeachment proceedings. Hey, that's what they constantly did to Bush. Take off the gloves. This is an incident, particularly including the coverup, that rises to that level. Very Nixonian.

167

nothing will get done with Boehner in charge

get rid of him first

and we need an effective 'whip' Cantor is not doing the job

168 "Without doubt. Graham is right to push this." I simply don't care. No matter what he says or does, I hate his pansy ass. The only thing I want to read about Graham is that he was defeated in the 2014 primary. Failing that, in the 2014 general election. I'm sick of the Stain and Lady Lindsey. I want both gone.

169 Please don't stop at Benghazi survivors. After Hillary's comment that "she can't read every email that comes into the State Dept", just subpoena the State Dep & JCS Ops Center folks, PLUS those who were tasked with delivering a FLASH precedence msg to the Sec of State IAW the SOP (and, BTW, debrief the SOP for FLASH msgs). I can't believe no one in the hearings delved past this!! And don't leave the SOP for POTUS out, either.

170 It's a pity there wasn't really time before the election - they could have spoken up, gone to jail, and Romney (because Obama would already be swinging for treason) could have pardoned them.

171 &