November 22, 2013
— Ace Really?
I brought this up in the podcast-- I think Eekdahl agreed with me. The media is attempting to claim they were snookered by Obamacare, same as us.
Well, not us. We got it. But the media is now claiming that they were snookered along with the rest of the Low Information Voters.
Sort of like they're turning to us now, after having echoed Obama's lies about Obamacare for five years, and saying, "Can you believe the bullshit this guy is tellin' us...?"
Um, guys? You told us the same bullshit.
You know how Obama poses as a spectator to his own Administration? As someone who has no responsibility to actually do a good job, but only to criticize the government when it fails to do a good job?
Watch Politico attempt the same maneuver here-- apparently forgetting that as a news operation focused only on DC and the laws promulgated there, they had a responsibility to report the actual facts about Obamacare:
[Headline:] Obamacare tradeoffs: Now they tell us Â…
They're telling you this now? Were you incapable of reading the law or the Federal Register? Did you feel no obligation to check the veracity of Obama's claims? Did you feel that Senator Enzi's detailed chapter-and-verse explanation of how Obamacare would boot off millions from their insurance companies was Obviously A Lie, just because he's a conservative?
Did you have any responsibility to look into this a little bit more thoroughly than not at all?
But the problem with Obamacare’s stumbling start is that it shined a harsh light on intended consequences — more costs and more government regulation — that were always embedded in the ACA but were deliberately downplayed by Obama and Democrats on the way to passage.
If these things were always embedded (which they were), why did no news organizations report them?
...It is, in many respects, a classic social welfare program. Like other social programs, it involves transferring from haves to have-nots. Healthy people are going to have to pay to help sick people get coverage. People who had skimpy coverage before — and in some cases, not-so-skimpy coverage — will have to upgrade to insurance that covers more things, but costs more. And young people will have to pay so older people don’t face sky-high premiums.
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It is not as if these trade-offs — the kind required by any big social program — were not understood by experts at the time Obamacare was being debated in 2009 and 2010. But they certainly weren’t part of the pitch Obama and the Democrats made to the rest of America — the people who shouldn’t have had to read between the lines to know what was going to happen.
I agree. If only we had some kind of institution whose primary mission it was to scrutinize the claims of politicians, contact experts, and report the major facts about major new legislation to the public.
But alas, it seems we don't.
Politico does get around, obliquely, to defending themselves and the rest of the media on this.
Any guesses?
Go ahead, guess.
If you said "By blaming Republicans," you're smarter than you look.
Republicans in Congress have been quick to say that they warned of the dangers of the law. But the truth is that they sounded the alarms about so many threats, including dubious assertions about death panels and the slippery slope to a Canadian-style single-payer health care system, that they never put any sustained focus on the very specific tradeoffs people are seeing now.
Politico, the "experts" on public policy, continues showing off its colossal ignorance. In fact, the original proposal was a slippery slope to single payer health care; the architect of it admitted that, saying that it couldn't be called a "Trojan Horse for single payer," because it's "right there."
In other words, it can't be a Trojan Horse if it is so obviously smuggling in Single Payer. If you're so overt about your intention, people can't accuse you of dishonesty.
Furthermore, even high-ranking Democrats, like Harry Reid, publicly confessed the public option was a way to move towards single payer. When asked if the public option was a means towards displacing the private insurance market and moving us towards single payer, he responded: "Absolutely yes."
Once Joe Lieberman got wind of this -- when Richmond's and Sexton's scoop got into the pages of the Wall Street Journal -- he insisted the public option be removed, or else the Democrats would not have his vote. So the Democrats went to this ungainly monster we now call "Obamacare," something Max Baucus sharted out after a long night of tequila, burritos, and incompetence.
So no, Politico, Republicans weren't making "dubious" claims about Obamacare; they were making accurate ones. Something, by the way, that the media totally got scooped on; it was the bloggers Verum Serum (John Sexton) and Morgan Richmon who found, reported, and brought to Joe Lieberman's attention Hacker's "Trojan Horse" confession. The media reported it later... slightly.
Most deliberately did not report on the fact that the architect of the original plan was caught on tape bragging that Obamacare 1.0 was designed to wipe out private insurance.
At any rate, that's Politico's excuse: You guys made so many "dubious" (actually accurate) charges against Obamacare, we just couldn't ferret out the accurate ones from the false ones.
I say again: This wasn't a fast-moving story about a sudden natural disaster, in which information is scattered and comes in panicked burst. Nor was it a story about national secrets -- CIA stuff -- where the story couldn't come out until the Right Source delivered the Right Leak.
It was all written out, right there in the law, right there in the Federal Register. All a reporter had to do was read it -- and if it was too complicated or too arcane for a reporter, all he had to do was contact an expert.
Did the experts themselves know? Yes, says Megan McArdle -- including the left-wing ones.
[T]he most interesting line of defense is, essentially, that “we always knew this was coming.” The Official Blog Spouse chronicled the emergence of this meme last summer, and it hasn’t changed much since. It’s interesting because it’s both completely true and completely false -- depending on who you think “we” is.It’s absolutely true that every policy wonk who was writing or speaking about the law in 2009 and 2010 understood that it would mean premiums going up for at least some people, many of whom would lose insurance that they would have preferred to keep. Who it would be depended a bit on how the law unfolded, of course, but at a minimum, young, healthy people who made more than $46,000 a year could expect to pay higher premiums for the same level of coverage. They had to; mathematically, it was not possible for coverage to expand and everyone’s premiums to go down -- not unless you spent more in premium subsidies than the government could afford.
But I think itÂ’s also clearly true that the majority of the public did not understand this. In 2008, the Barack Obama campaign told them that their premiums would go down under the new health-care law. And the lawÂ’s supporters believed it.
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[Most of Obama's arguments about how it could possibly be that premiums would go down] all sounded entirely plausible; I heard many smart wonks make most of these arguments in 2008 and 2009. However, itÂ’s fair to say that by the time the law passed, the debate had pretty well established that few to none of them were true.
“We all knew” that preventive care doesn’t save money, electronic medical records don’t save money, reducing uncompensated care saves very little money, and “reining in the abusive practices” of insurance companies was likely to raise premiums, not lower them, because those “abuses” mostly consist of refusing to cover very sick people.
But that information did not get communicated very well to the public. The administration reiterated that, in Obama’s words, “We will keep this promise to the American people. If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health-care plan, you will be able to keep your health-care plan. Period.” They also promised that the average family would save $2,500 a year on premiums. There was no fine print about how some folks would lose their insurance, be forced into narrower doctor networks, and see premiums rise, even though they seem to have known what was going to happen.
And the wonk community did not exactly hasten to disabuse them.
So it seems to me there are several possibilities in play, none of them good for the media, nor the left-leaning "experts" that are on the media's speed-dials.
Either the wonks told the media, in all candor, that most of this was bullshit, and that people would indeed be suffering under Obama's plan, his promises to the contrary, and yet the media chose to not report that;
or their own trusted experts lied to them about what all of this meant.
Now, if it's the former, they're in on the conspiracy themselves. And if it's the latter, those experts should never, ever be called or quoted again, having deliberately lied to the reporters asking about Obamacare.
But I don't hear any in the media calling out any of their experts.
Going back to Mary Katharine's post: Mark Halperin also attempts to blame the media's negligence or intentional lying on Republicans.
INGRAHAM: That’s part of the issue, is it not? The President always seems to see things in terms of political solutions or political responses. So the response here is we have got to rebrand. We have got to sell it differently. We have to have a new ad, have to have the website have more colors, whatever it is. Isn’t it more of a branding problem? This is a technical problem. It’s a policy problem. It’s a substantive problem. It’s not just about whether Obama’s big legacy is intact or progressive ideas in the future are doing well. These are real concerns that were expressed frankly back in 2008, 2009, and into 2010. Forgive me, but I don’t think Time Magazine was doing cover stories on a lot of concerns that were raised back then that were routinely dismissed by many in the media, ideological, as just mean-spirited, turns out most of the Republican concerns about Obamacare were right.HALPERIN: Laura, there is no doubt that the press failed to scrutinize this program at the time of passage and during the context of the president’s re-election. Any reporter who would argue otherwise would be putting their head in the sand. As we write in “Double Down,” the problem for the Republicans in the re-election context was you nominated, Republicans nominated Mitt Romney, a guy who was not very well positioned, to say the least, to make the case against Obamacare because he passed the healthcare plan in Massachusetts.
MKH immediately points out the inconvenient fact that there was no presidential election in 2009 to early 2010, when Obamacare was rammed through the Congress, and Mitt Romney was not the nominee of anything yet, except as the first name in Jen Rubin's Crush Book.
Mark Halperin continues maintaining, in the article, that it was only Mitt Romney's job to patrol Obama's claims for their veracity, or the 2000+ pages Obamacare (plus thousands of regulations in the Federal Register) for their actual impact on the American public, and that the media only had a responsibility, at most, as a secondary actor.
To which Mary Katherine finally bursts out in exasperation:
WHAT IS THE POINT OF YOU, MARK HALPERIN?
Indeed. If the media is now claiming that their only job is to put pictures of Obama on TV, well, Obama does quite a job of that himself. And any YouTube channel could satisfy that portion of news coverage.
If the media is not there to look into matters and closely question politicians, and get to the actual truth, what is the point of it?
Note that the media smugly tells you that it's their job to Tell You What the Truth Is when they're questioned about bias. There is a bias, they say, towards the truth, and to report Democrat Truth and Republican Lie as if they're equivalent would be "false equivalency."
But when asked why they permitted Democrat Lies to be trumpeted as truth for so long, or why they ignored Republican Truths about the cancellation of policies, they now say:
That's not our job. That was up to Mitt Romney.
Back when he was still just a former governor of Massachusetts and former contender for the Republican nomination. Who lost.
Incredible. Incredible.
Corrected: I got my Obamacare shills mixed up and attributed the Trojan Horse line to Gruber. It was actually Hacker.
Also corrected: I blew the timeline on Romney's governorship.
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Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 22, 2013 10:55 AM (ZKzrr)
The long awaited movie review is finally here.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2013 10:55 AM (Sc8YH)
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Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 22, 2013 10:59 AM (7ObY1)
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Yeah that shit's just plum crazy.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 22, 2013 10:59 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 11:00 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at November 22, 2013 11:00 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 22, 2013 11:00 AM (SUKHu)
Once again proving that Obammycare is the legislative equivalent of The Phantom Menace, as critiqued by Red Letter Media.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:01 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 22, 2013 11:01 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 22, 2013 11:02 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Dang - I looked it up so you don't have to! at November 22, 2013 11:02 AM (YWXTN)
Fucking brilliant Ace. Fucking brilliant.
Mark Halperin and the rest of the shitstain lapdog fucks should be run out on a rail.
But then again, who reads Time anymore?
Slowly. Digging. Their. Own. Graves.
Posted by: prescient11 at November 22, 2013 11:02 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 22, 2013 11:03 AM (7ObY1)
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Posted by: occam's braissere at November 22, 2013 11:03 AM (QZkRD)
Posted by: David Brooks at November 22, 2013 11:03 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Mark Halperin at November 22, 2013 11:03 AM (Sc8YH)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at November 22, 2013 11:04 AM (pS9Fj)
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All sounded plausible to whom, idiot? The have your cake and eat it too crowd? The people who believe that if you believe hard enough Tinkerbell will live? The people that think higher taxes is the solution to a growing economy?
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 22, 2013 11:04 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 11:04 AM (da5Wo)
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Posted by: wooga at November 22, 2013 11:04 AM (/SmTL)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 22, 2013 11:04 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 11:04 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2013 11:05 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: GM and Chrysler Debt Holders at November 22, 2013 11:05 AM (Pr6hk)
The old "Don't blame us, Mitt Romney distracted us and kept us from asking all those questions that would have been embarassing to the administration!" excuse.
Is there *anything* that the media hasn't tried to use that excuse on?
Posted by: junior at November 22, 2013 11:05 AM (UWFpX)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 03:04 PM (da5Wo)
Yes! It's got boobs!
Posted by: MFM at November 22, 2013 11:05 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: the wolf at November 22, 2013 11:05 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 22, 2013 11:05 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2013 11:05 AM (Sc8YH)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2013 11:06 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 22, 2013 11:06 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Mitt Romney, Ace Reporter at November 22, 2013 11:06 AM (CRY7r)
So much destruction in five years. And the regime is upping the push exponentially now. Three more years.
We just think we've seen transformation.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 11:07 AM (66ULQ)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at November 22, 2013 11:07 AM (pj6Nr)
And even if it had been such a situation, SO WHAT? That's the media's JOB. That's what they're SUPPOSED to do. They're supposed to take what's being said, verify it, and report the facts. I don't care how many storylines are being tossed at them from the political stage; they need to field and vet them all. For Politico to imply that there was just TOO MUCH to cover is laughable beyond belief. They're claiming they had got time to yammer about Mitt Romney's dog, and how he maybe cut a guy's hair back in high school, but they didn't have time to investigate the serious dangers articulated by Republicans associated with the most sweeping social program since the Great Society? REALLY?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:07 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at November 22, 2013 11:07 AM (r+7wo)
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Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at November 22, 2013 11:08 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 22, 2013 11:08 AM (r5w1L)
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You think it's easy going back thirty years to find out where the dog road on a family vacation?
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 22, 2013 11:08 AM (Hx5uv)
There was a threat of artistic photos in the last thread.
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Ah. Something tripped the evil corporate firewall after about 250 comments. I always wonder what sets it off.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at November 22, 2013 11:08 AM (A0sHn)
Posted by: AAA at November 22, 2013 11:08 AM (hQJ+o)
Posted by: Mitch The Bitch McConnell at November 22, 2013 11:09 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2013 11:09 AM (23Kgq)
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 22, 2013 11:09 AM (r5w1L)
Tells you all you need to know.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 11:09 AM (lVPtV)
They are the Palace Guards who don't disagree with anything their god-king says.
They've helped destroy this country precisely because they cogently, willingly and thoughtfully participated in the process.
The press has zero credibility because the people know this intuitively know this. Why? because today facts exist in places like the internet that are there for people to find on their own.
Nobody trusts the press because at one time or another on a particular issue they've been discovered as the blatantly partisan mendacious idiots they've become.
F-them, There is no "we" when the press is involved. It's just "them" sitting on the laps of people like Obama.
Pretty soon they will be sitting on Hillary's lap, telling us how only wingnuts are pursuing issues like Benghazi and talking about how HillaryCare wanted to do what ObamaCare has done- only worse.
The press doesn't "change" they just keep playing the dishonest chameleon game.
Posted by: Marcus at November 22, 2013 11:09 AM (PheMG)
Posted by: RS at November 22, 2013 11:09 AM (YAGV/)
Posted by: Old Fart at November 22, 2013 11:10 AM (fX9XS)
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Posted by: Confused Moviegoer at November 22, 2013 11:10 AM (+H/11)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at November 22, 2013 03:07 PM (pj6Nr)
Yes, politics can be very unsatisfactory. However, if winning means anything, you let some people save face by sending them (and the torches and pitchforks that the old Outlet has on special) against someone else.
Elementary Rabble Rousing - we have that on audio books also.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 11:11 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 22, 2013 11:11 AM (CJjw5)
Joe the plumber has his identity illeagally plundered by the state of Ohio.
Sarah Palin's lady parts, emails, speeches are scrutinized and ridiculed by the media. Remember the OUTRAGE about her wardrobe when she was running for VP?
Ted Cruz is villified by the media as a Tea-baggin' redneck obstructionisht.
Obama & Obamacare? What's there to see?
Posted by: Cheri at November 22, 2013 11:11 AM (G+Wff)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at November 22, 2013 11:11 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Dick poulin at November 22, 2013 11:12 AM (J7sV0)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 11:12 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: jwest at November 22, 2013 11:12 AM (u2a4R)
http://tinyurl.com/bv8d846
Oh, two bunkers of chemical weapons in Baghdad being disposed of in 2012? Yawn. That would interfere with the Bush LIED! meme we so successfully pushed! So don't expect us to, like, publicize this or anything. I mean, really! Once the narrative is set, it would just confuse you little people if we printed any, you know, facts that would contradict it!
We do it for your sake! You idiots.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 22, 2013 11:12 AM (DLu2s)
Posted by: joncelli at November 22, 2013 11:12 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Yip at November 22, 2013 11:12 AM (/jHWN)
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The media and Obama. In fact it is the Affordable Care Act and it was all done by low level employees in Cleveland.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 22, 2013 11:12 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Reggie Love at November 22, 2013 11:12 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 11:12 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 22, 2013 03:08 PM (r5w1L)
Preach it, brother!
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at November 22, 2013 11:12 AM (+H/11)
Posted by: Martin Basheer at November 22, 2013 11:13 AM (PheMG)
LOL. So are we supposed to believe that these stupid fucks in the media can't read the shit that's right in front of them.
Have they not heard the audio from the AUTHOR that:
1) The purpose of this is to destroy private insurance.
And Halperin YOU STUPID FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT, HAVE YOU NOT HEARD RECORDED!!!!!!!!!! AUDIO OF PAUL KRUGMAN STATING:
2) There will have to be DEATH PANELS.
This media has to be burned down, buried, and fucking cleansed through and through these lying POS mother fuckers.
Posted by: prescient11 at November 22, 2013 11:13 AM (tVTLU)
I used to wonder how the brutality and inhumanity of a thing like the French Revolution could occur in this world.
After seeing the actions of the Democrats and the MSM these last five years, I now understand.
The National Razor shall be fed.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at November 22, 2013 11:13 AM (H84UO)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at November 22, 2013 11:14 AM (pS9Fj)
Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 11:14 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 22, 2013 11:15 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 11:15 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Dang at November 22, 2013 11:15 AM (YWXTN)
Posted by: Yip at November 22, 2013 03:12 PM (/jHWN)
What you mean "was," Y man?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:15 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Dan Rather at November 22, 2013 11:15 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at November 22, 2013 11:16 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Darth Randall at November 22, 2013 11:16 AM (Zswg6)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at November 22, 2013 11:16 AM (EXemq)
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at November 22, 2013 03:13 PM (H84UO)
That's too quick for them. Something along the lines of scaphism would be more appropriate and it would provide jobs for people to build all of the boats required.
Posted by: Let the insects feast on their living flesh at November 22, 2013 11:16 AM (+H/11)
Yep, sounds right to me.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 22, 2013 11:16 AM (WdbF7)
Posted by: Yip at November 22, 2013 11:16 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Bigby's Thumb at November 22, 2013 11:17 AM (wKNBG)
Jwest:
Go with God!!! I really have reached the end point with these clowns. They are not worthy of debate nor attention.
Laughter. Mocking laughter is all they get. FOREVER...
Posted by: prescient11 at November 22, 2013 11:17 AM (tVTLU)
I remain blissfully unfamiliar with 90% of the names attached to these networks and newspapers.
You keep fisking them, Ace. To what purpose? I'm not asking because I know the answer, just that it seems a fruitless task. There has to be a better way.
At some point I think it would be nice to be able to dismiss the rantings and ravings of a discredited industry without honoring them by calling out the liars and their lies by name.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2013 11:17 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 11:17 AM (da5Wo)
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I will throw myself under the bus to protect The Won.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 22, 2013 11:17 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 22, 2013 11:17 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Mainstream Media at November 22, 2013 11:17 AM (pS9Fj)
Back when he was still just governor of Massachusetts."
Mitt left office as governor in January 2007. He hasn't been governor since two years before Obama became president and three years before Obamacare was passed into law.
Posted by: Joshua at November 22, 2013 11:18 AM (oCZ4e)
Save this one in your memory:
But the truth is that they sounded the alarms about so many threats, including dubious assertions about death panels and the slippery slope to a Canadian-style single-payer health care system, that they never put any sustained focus on the very specific tradeoffs people are seeing now.
So when this comes to pass, I wonder what they will say?
Politico - We can't report and chew gum at the same time.
Posted by: polynikes at November 22, 2013 11:18 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 11:18 AM (IXrOn)
Lanny Davis' interview is quite telling.
No shit sherlock. Perhaps when you take over 1/6 of the economy and EVERYONE's healthcare, roughly HALF OF THE FUCKING COUNTRY should be consulted.
Passing this with not one Republican vote was the biggest fuckups these idiots have ever done. Hubris indeed.
Posted by: prescient11 at November 22, 2013 11:19 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: MSM at November 22, 2013 11:19 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: blue.dot at November 22, 2013 11:20 AM (QjTYO)
A little humor during the holidays is healing.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 11:20 AM (lVPtV)
They declared Palin's "Death Panel" comment Lie of the Year. These guys smirked and snarked about simpleton Palin's inability to grasp the beauty and excellence of this superior legislation, Obamacare.
They're not just disingenuous. They've declared themselves dumber than Palin and those idiot tea baggers.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 22, 2013 11:20 AM (JRmiD)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 11:20 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at November 22, 2013 11:20 AM (EXemq)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 11:21 AM (ix+5k)
See that rusty dildo sitting over there in that bucket of lice-infested shit?
SHOVE THAT UP YOUR ASS.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 22, 2013 11:21 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: THEE MSM at November 22, 2013 11:21 AM (4eNxd)
Posted by: blue.dot at November 22, 2013 11:21 AM (QjTYO)
Posted by: Donks at November 22, 2013 11:21 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 03:20 PM (RZ8pf)
Any particular brand? *eyes freezer*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 11:22 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 11:22 AM (IXrOn)
92Link to IMDB for "point of you" quote.
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Eleventh Doctor, not canonical. The Tenth Doctor is canon, the Ninth is permitted Apocrypha.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at November 22, 2013 11:22 AM (A0sHn)
Posted by: MSM at November 22, 2013 11:22 AM (DrC22)
Did you guys see that a woman in Oregon found a severed snake head in her frozen green beans?
Mr Squiggles!
Posted by: Sprout at November 22, 2013 11:22 AM (Sc8YH)
First off, fuck you, Lanny.
You didn't just support the IDEA. You supported the fucking LAW.
I think we all let the American people down by not thinking through how complicated trying to revolutionize the healthcare system would be.
Secondly, fuck you, Lanny.
And last I checked, that "we all" you cite was strictly you lousy cocksucking Demonrats. I seem to recall plenty of Republicans and conservatives jumping up and down, waving their arms and screaming "STOP!!!!" So again, fuck you. Fuck you with a barbed razor cock.
And I do think that we have to fess up, that we messed up,
Oh, how magnanimous of you. Yeah, you messed up. You destroyed our healthcare industry, ruined countless lives through unemployment or under employment, wrecked businesses, bankrupted families, and set the best healthcare system in the world on it's back like a fucking turtle. Yeah, that's a real "mess up." Thanks for fessing up to that. Fucking ASSHOLE.
and maybe hit the "reset" button and start to take another look at a more incremental approach that brings Republicans over, so it's not a partisan issue any longer.
Thirdly, FUCK YOU, LANNY. Get syphillis and die, you assfaced shitbrain.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:22 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: polynikes at November 22, 2013 11:22 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Registered Voter at November 22, 2013 11:22 AM (xqjwP)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 11:23 AM (l2h4p)
Posted by: KGB at November 22, 2013 11:23 AM (kROq3)
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2013 11:23 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: elaine at November 22, 2013 11:23 AM (GNZ0/)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 11:23 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: blue.dot at November 22, 2013 03:20 PM (QjTYO)
FYNQ
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:23 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Lace Wigs [/i] at November 22, 2013 11:24 AM (UL/Aj)
Posted by: --- at November 22, 2013 11:24 AM (MMC8r)
Hmm. Sounds like work.
Posted by: The MSM, Now With 20% More Truthiness at November 22, 2013 11:24 AM (8ZskC)
He knew all about Obamacare.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 22, 2013 11:24 AM (JRmiD)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 11:24 AM (l2h4p)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 22, 2013 11:25 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2013 11:25 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 22, 2013 11:25 AM (7ObY1)
Kroger, she bought the package at a Fred Meyer. They offered her a $15 gift card but now she is whining in the press because she doesn't think it's enough.
I am not sure how I would feel if I found a severed snake head in my frozen vegetables. Probably better than if I found a live black widow in my bananas.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 11:25 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: rfichoke at November 22, 2013 11:26 AM (J87gl)
**
Yup, another thing we eeevil crakers predicted would happen.
Posted by: dananjcon at November 22, 2013 11:26 AM (wmU4G)
http://bit.ly/1g32GnF
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 11:26 AM (VtjlW)
“When I saw it was a snake’s head I just threw it down and called my kids and said I got a snake head in the green beans, everybody said ‘Oh lord, you got a snake head in the green beans’,”
“I saw big eyes, with a mouth open and a tongue coming out, it looked like it was ready to attack,” Mrs Jamison added.
After the family calmed down they took some photographs of the head and sent a letter of complaint to Pictsweet who supplied the veg. Pictsweet have denied all liability, but they did offer the Jamison family $150 in compensation and also dismissed accusations that it was a snakes head saying it was in fact the head of a frog.
*whew* It was *just* a frog's head.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 11:26 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at November 22, 2013 11:26 AM (M79Lx)
********
If I watch Megyn, my socks quake in fear of being ravaged, so no. Is she teams up with Christina Hendricks in a kissing contest, I shall never leave my house again.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at November 22, 2013 11:26 AM (pj6Nr)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 22, 2013 11:26 AM (xxjaY)
Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 11:26 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: The MSM at November 22, 2013 11:26 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Yip at November 22, 2013 11:27 AM (/jHWN)
@117 I will throw myself under the bus to protect The Won.
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No, what it really translates to is, "The voters in my district are angry about the healthcare mess that I helped pass, and the only way for me to keep my perks through 2016 is to appear at least somewhat contrite and repentant."
Posted by: junior at November 22, 2013 11:27 AM (UWFpX)
-
I'm reading a police report about a guy who has been banging kids for the last forty years or so. One of the victims, now an adult, described how the suspect plied him with drug, alcohol, and porn and he doesn't really know what happened but he woke up with his pants off and it hurt to defecate. Years later, he says, he was playing with a sex toy and realized that it felt the same after sticking it where the sun don't shine as on the prior occasion so he thinks he was raped.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 22, 2013 11:27 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2013 11:27 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 22, 2013 11:27 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Caliban at November 22, 2013 11:27 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 03:25 PM (RZ8pf)
***
This is why I stick to beer, in a bottle.
Posted by: dananjcon at November 22, 2013 11:27 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 11:28 AM (Xlbr8)
Posted by: NCwoof at November 22, 2013 11:28 AM (aUQgu)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 11:28 AM (da5Wo)
Bullshit, they were too busy slobbing obama's knob as if his balls held oxygen and they were 200 feet underwater. Lamp post the lot of them.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 22, 2013 11:28 AM (FMbng)
He knew all about Obamacare.
*sighs* *files nails*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 11:28 AM (lVPtV)
If it was your intention to subliminally make me watch the Robin Thicke dancin' nekkid chick video (again), I'd like to congratulate you on your success.
Posted by: Jaws at November 22, 2013 11:28 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 11:29 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: occam's braissere at November 22, 2013 11:29 AM (UAMZL)
Posted by: MFM at November 22, 2013 11:29 AM (FCLeR)
Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 11:29 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Purp at November 22, 2013 03:26 PM (Xlbr
Awwww, but then we can't bat it around like a cat playing with a dead mouse. 
But do what you gotta do, Purp.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:29 AM (4df7R)
I never, ever, ever, ever watch Bill O'Reilly, but I just happened to be channel surfing last night and saw that Laura Ingraham was hosting the show, so I watched it, including this interview with Mark Halperin that almost made my head explode. God bless Laura Ingraham for pushing this dork on his bullshit answers.
It should be said, though, that Halperin was speaking in the context of the 2012 campaign, which is what his book was about. I don't think he intended to suggest that Mitt Romney should have been reading and commenting on the ACA while it was going through Congress in 2009/10. YMMV.
It's also true that the final regulation that ended up forcing all the insurers to cancel everyone's individual policies did not get published until after the election, by design, so that part of Halperin's argument doesn't hold water either. Romney could hardly comment ona rule that had not yet been published - though he did speak in general terms about the consequences of forcing all policies to have so many minimum benefits.
But at least Halperin committed a little truth. Better than the unadulterated bullshit we are still getting from the rest of Obama's Amen Chorus in the media.
Posted by: rockmom at November 22, 2013 11:29 AM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: elaine at November 22, 2013 03:23 PM (GNZ0/)
The problem with delaying the mandate until after teh election is that many businesses operate on teh October 1- September 30 Fiscal Year like the US government and State governments do. So the employer sponsored insurance problem is going to surface in the late summer. The Democrats are still going to be getting Satan's rogering unless this goes away.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 11:30 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 11:30 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 03:29 PM (QupBk)
A nuclear wessel!
Posted by: Pavel Chekov at November 22, 2013 11:30 AM (DrWcr)
*points wildly* All y'all promised to turn off the webcams! You did! I believed you! You you you you LIARS! YOU YOU YOU PROGRESSIVES ALL OF YOU! *runs off sobbing*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 11:30 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Purp at November 22, 2013 03:26 PM (Xlbr
Aim for the blue dot. It's hard to hit something that tiny, but you can't kill a zombie unless you shoot it in the brain.
Posted by: Zombie Hunter at November 22, 2013 11:30 AM (+H/11)
weird, the article I read on the local news site said it was Kroger brand. This case was in Oregon. Could there be 2 cases of chopped off heads in green beans?
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 11:30 AM (RZ8pf)
weird, the article I read on the local news site said it was Kroger brand. This case was in Oregon. Could there be 2 cases of chopped off heads in green beans?
I think so. {{{shudder}}} The story I found took place in Houston.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 11:31 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 11:32 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Purp at November 22, 2013 03:28 PM (Xlbr
Speaking of institutions arguing for their own extinction due to incompetency and negligence in core obligations, what's Obammy doing today?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:32 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 11:32 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 22, 2013 11:32 AM (wtvvX)
@183 This is why I stick to beer, in a bottle.
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Those get mice in them. Didn't you ever see 'Strange Brew'?
Posted by: junior at November 22, 2013 11:32 AM (UWFpX)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2013 11:32 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 11:33 AM (Xlbr8)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at November 22, 2013 11:33 AM (pj6Nr)
Speaking of institutions arguing for their own extinction due to incompetency and negligence in core obligations, what's Obammy doing today?
Golfing? Campaigning? Hanging out with Reggie?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 11:33 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: polynikes at November 22, 2013 11:33 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: occam's braissere at November 22, 2013 03:29 PM (UAMZL)
It's not about Halperin; it's about the abject failure of the mainstream media in general to bother vetting Obama's signature legislation. Halperin just put it into words.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:34 AM (4df7R)
I suspect the snake head got there when the green beans were traveling through the machinery to flash freeze them, chop them and bag them. The snake was probably unfortunately caught up in the machinery. Others probably got other snake body parts in their green beans and didn't realize it.
And now I've put myself off lunch...
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 11:34 AM (RZ8pf)
And the vipers in the sake in Japan.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 11:34 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2013 11:35 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Garden of the Klingon Empress at November 22, 2013 11:35 AM (LSsdb)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 11:35 AM (Xlbr8)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at November 22, 2013 11:35 AM (oPVx2)
Lmao. If it makes you feel better, it happened to me. And it was the least retarded thing that happened in the chain of events leading up to me being on the countertop.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 03:32 PM (da5Wo)
....
I'm less interested in how you ended up on the counter top, and more interested in why you were wearing a skirt.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:35 AM (4df7R)
@198 It should be said, though, that Halperin was speaking in the context of the 2012 campaign, which is what his book was about. I don't think he intended to suggest that Mitt Romney should have been reading and commenting on the ACA while it was going through Congress in 2009/10. YMMV.
-----------------
Romney DID call attention to Benghazi, and the media promptly blamed him for the lack of coverage (i.e. "Romney said Benghazi, so now all of the stories need to be about Romney instead of Benghazi.").
Halperin can go play in traffic.
Posted by: junior at November 22, 2013 11:35 AM (UWFpX)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 22, 2013 03:34 PM (4df7R)
Even worse than that. Its their failure to vet and then putting blame on this failure on others.
Posted by: polynikes at November 22, 2013 11:35 AM (m2CN7)
158/Lizzy:
No shit huh. And Tapper's wife is a PP bigwig. Jesus. Can we just have a reporter do some fucking real work.
They're all dirty as shit it appears.
Posted by: prescient11 at November 22, 2013 11:35 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: RWC at November 22, 2013 11:36 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper at November 22, 2013 03:35 PM (Pr6hk)
ISWYDT
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 22, 2013 11:36 AM (wtvvX)
It's still true, all us poor folks still get ObamaCare for free, and it don't cost us a dime. Not one thin dime. We also get ObamaPhones for free to call our pushers and baby daddies.
Posted by: Low Info Votin' Democrats at November 22, 2013 11:36 AM (pJF+c)
197 Well as you've seen i bow to nobody on giving people the benefit of the doubt. But from what I've seen I have my doubts about this one.
I would let it ride and allow the inevitable escalation to make it obvious and uncontroversial. Shouldn't be long now...
Posted by: DAve at November 22, 2013 11:36 AM (b7yum)
Posted by: Andi Sullivain at November 22, 2013 11:36 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 11:36 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 11:36 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Captain Glenn Quagmire at November 22, 2013 11:36 AM (1o4B5)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 11:37 AM (RZ8pf)
incompetency and negligence in core obligations, what's Obammy doing
today?
Golfing? Campaigning? Hanging out with Reggie?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 03:33 PM (lVPtV)
I would say sitting in his bedroom on his race car bed, wearing his silly green chairman mao hat and playing with his "Leaders of the world's banana republics" action figure set.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 22, 2013 11:37 AM (FMbng)
They must be really confident that the website is going to be up and running as promised in 8 more days.
Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 11:37 AM (eHc+1)
Posted by: polynikes at November 22, 2013 03:35 PM (m2CN7)
Absolutely. It's inexcusable.
What IS the point of you, MFM?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:37 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at November 22, 2013 11:37 AM (pS9Fj)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 22, 2013 03:36 PM (wtvvX)
Tell me that joke hadn't popped into your head as that green bean discussion was going on
Posted by: Anderson Cooper at November 22, 2013 11:38 AM (Pr6hk)
And the joke is,
When he awoke his
Body was covered in Coke fizz...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 22, 2013 11:38 AM (wtvvX)
Even fucking Pravda did more accurate reporting on Obamacare than US media did:
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/30-04-2013/124449-obamacare-0/
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 11:38 AM (Xlbr8)
228 -
I can see the commercials now:
Mom (in a soft, summer dress): I want my kids to eat their vegetables, but I also want them the have protein....
Voiceover: Have we got the product for you!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2013 11:38 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: elaine at November 22, 2013 11:38 AM (GNZ0/)
It's not about Halperin; it's about the abject failure of the mainstream media in general to bother vetting Obama's signature legislation. Halperin just put it into words.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 22, 2013 03:34 PM (4df7R)
*
^^^This. Gotta call these C-suckers out every chance you get. Ridicule, mock and enjoy the Lamentations.
Posted by: dananjcon at November 22, 2013 11:38 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Mark Halperin's Vagina at November 22, 2013 11:39 AM (8BRyr)
Messaging works, sometimes unfortunately...."if you like your plan..."
Works too damn well.
but at least is "including dubious assertions about death panels and the slippery slope to a Canadian-style single-payer health care system, that they never put any sustained focus on the very specific tradeoffs people are seeing now" is at least in print when they try to claim death panels were never talked about in the future. That way, Marky Mark H won't be surprised when he or his family are denied or delayed some care.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2013 11:39 AM (iGPSR)
Posted by: Havedash at November 22, 2013 11:40 AM (BMEZ0)
Posted by: I love the lightbringer at November 22, 2013 11:41 AM (JfInk)
"Fuck The Press In The Ass With Neutron Star RX J1856.5-3754".
Posted by: FYNQ at November 22, 2013 11:41 AM (TM1p8)
There is quite literally no way in the world for any compliance department to confirm compliance because it's Calvinball all the way down. Reliance upon regulatory interpretation is generally not a full defense to a violation, if it's any defense at all. Since the rules change moment to moment, you cannot do your job. There's no way you can do it. That won't matter when the charges are brought. On the other hand, it would give the hypothetical me the chance to provide fuck if I know as my official legal opinion so there's that.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 11:42 AM (VtjlW)
The media are forced to schedule the Obama cock sucks on a rotating basis so no singular journalist gets more than his fair share of cock.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 22, 2013 11:43 AM (pJF+c)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2013 11:43 AM (8ZskC)
Geez, this movie must have had something horrid, like Ewok defenestration or something worse.
Star Wars VII: Ted Cruz's Garbage Strikes Back
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 22, 2013 11:43 AM (TIIx5)
The media really was and is invested in Obama more than they are Democrats in general because they did not vet him while he was running against Hillary.
I am convinced there was an agreement in regard to negative campaigning brokered by the DNC led by Ted Kennedy.
Posted by: polynikes at November 22, 2013 11:43 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 11:43 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 22, 2013 11:43 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 11:43 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 22, 2013 11:44 AM (bCEmE)
SAN RAFAEL, Calif., Nov. 22 (UPI) --
A California ordinance that prohibits smoking in residences with shared walls may be the strictest anti-smoking law in the United States, city officials say.
The ban, passed by the city of San Rafael, applies to both owners and renters, ABC News reported Thursday.
It covers any multi-family residence with three or more units, including condominiums, co-ops and apartments. The ban took effect Nov. 14...
The story's over at Breitbart; link at Drudge.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:44 AM (4df7R)
http://tinyurl.com/n2spjmd
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 22, 2013 03:40 PM (Hx5uv)
Sweet goat-fucking baby Mohammed. *seethes*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 11:44 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Tina at November 22, 2013 11:44 AM (OjZVR)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 11:45 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: RWC at November 22, 2013 11:45 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: The MSM at November 22, 2013 11:46 AM (QA8q2)
Dang! My prediction this a.m. was a photo of Obama solemnly looking at JFK's grave. So close!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 22, 2013 11:46 AM (JRmiD)
The new hawtness: "All The News That We Can Figure Out How To Report Using Only Our Little Tiny Brains"
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2013 11:46 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:46 AM (sByIH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 11:46 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Null at November 22, 2013 11:47 AM (DuH+r)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 11:47 AM (aDwsi)
http://tinyurl.com/n2spjmd
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 22, 2013 03:40 PM (Hx5uv)
(Lord, please, forgive me this blasphemy)
Jesus H. Fucking Christ.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:47 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: soothsayer at November 22, 2013 11:48 AM (Af2Tk)
Plus, raciiiiist.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 03:40 PM (lVPtV)
--------------------------------------------------
And let's not kid ourselves. They never really will.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 11:48 AM (66ULQ)
*dons tinfoil hat*
What happened to the scars on the back of his head?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 03:46 PM (da5Wo)
You mean the "666?"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 11:48 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 22, 2013 11:48 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 22, 2013 11:49 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Lizzy at November 22, 2013 03:46 PM (JRmiD)
What, leave My White House when I have Reggie's man meat so close here?
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 22, 2013 11:49 AM (+H/11)
Not Barry, a stand in.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 03:46 PM (da5Wo)
-Check Twitchy. It's from a White House tweet.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 22, 2013 11:49 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 11:49 AM (lVPtV)
--
Well, I'd hardly call it insane to turn to drugs to deal with the whims of an ignorant, incompetent, reckless tyrant.
As I said over at hotgas, it's not like anyone is on vacation Dec 23-31 so I'm sure everyone will be just thrilled to deal with this then. I also said:
Is Obama trying to prove to people that no matter how inept they think he is, he actually has further depths to plunge? Because each and every new piecemeal change just makes it seem like heÂ’s flailing about even worse than before. Get your sh!t together, man.
Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 11:49 AM (eHc+1)
Speakin' of Megyn....did you see her destroy the anti-religion guy who made two schools cancel their toy drive on last night's show? It was a thing of beauty....stay with it to the very end...or fast forward to 3:15.
Tami- that was classic. I laughed my ass off when that was over.
Posted by: Infidel at November 22, 2013 11:49 AM (O/fK8)
Posted by: Tina at November 22, 2013 03:44 PM (OjZVR)
Remember when there was that huge info dump of Sarah Palin's emails, and the left was all giddy about crowd sourcing them to ferret out the juicy details of just how stupid and evil she was?
Good times, good times.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:49 AM (4df7R)
http://tinyurl.com/n2spjmd
Not even gonna look. Rage meter already pegged...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 22, 2013 11:49 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:50 AM (sByIH)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at November 22, 2013 11:50 AM (dvRYt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 11:50 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Barry 'Otter' Soetoro at November 22, 2013 11:50 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 03:42 PM (VtjlW)
Add to this that no legal counsel is going to advise the Board of Directors to go ahead and break a statute. That is disbarment right there. All Obama said is he won't prosecute if the insurance companies break the statute - that does not remove the threat of civil action from shareholders, regulatory actions from state commissions, and may be charges by the state attorneys general.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 11:50 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 11:51 AM (RZ8pf)
IIRC Matt Smith uses it on somebody or thing also?
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 11:52 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2013 11:52 AM (23Kgq)
"You have helped saved them from a constitutional violation...and that will be a warm comfort to them on Christmas morning, Roy."
Even the studio crew cracked up!Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 22, 2013 11:52 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 11:52 AM (ix+5k)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 03:51 PM (RZ8pf)
I saw that and laughed as well.
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 22, 2013 11:52 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 11:52 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2013 11:53 AM (23Kgq)
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 22, 2013 03:49 PM (Hx5uv)
Doesn't matter. They could still use a stand-in. From the back, all you've got to do is get the general build right. And the ears. Can't forget the fucking ears.
I love how he's wearing that bigass trench coat. Is that supposed to be good or something? You'd think he'd want to give the impression of actually taking some time to contemplate his predecessor, but wearing that big ass coat makes it look like he paused a moment to glance at the portrait before zooming off to golf or some bullshit.
Of course, if you want to hide the fact that you're just using a mannequin instead of the actual President, dressing it in a bulky trench coat would certainly do the trick.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:53 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 03:50 PM (da5Wo)
heh
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 11:53 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: AmishDude at November 22, 2013 11:53 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Boston Herald at November 22, 2013 11:53 AM (m2CN7)
GEORGE ZIMMERMAN WAS JUST TAKEN INTO CUSTODY FOR AN UNPAID PARKING TICKET !!!!!!
We'll give you up to the minute coverage live from police headquarters in Orlando!!
Posted by: CNN at November 22, 2013 11:54 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Infidel at November 22, 2013 11:54 AM (O/fK8)
At the time the ACA was being debated, Sarah Palin
published a book. They crowd sourced reviewers and fact checkers for
that and not the ACA Bill in congress. Tells you what the priorities
were.
Posted by: Tina at November 22, 2013 03:44 PM (OjZVR)
Remember when Mitt Romney gave that woman cancer
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 22, 2013 11:54 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Dr. Nick Riviera at November 22, 2013 11:54 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Infidel at November 22, 2013 03:54 PM (O/fK
You could tell he was one of those hipster douches... he got owned by Kelly
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 22, 2013 11:55 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 11:55 AM (RZ8pf)
That pic that Maet put up on last night's ONT showing a mall in 1989. It almost made me cry when I started thinking about the freedom this country has lost.
We are living in a tyranny now.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 11:55 AM (66ULQ)
Not Barry, a stand in.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 03:46 PM (da5Wo)
Dumbo had to take a second job after Disney cancelled his health insurance....
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 22, 2013 11:55 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Mo, Larry, Curly at November 22, 2013 11:56 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: wooga at November 22, 2013 11:56 AM (/SmTL)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 11:56 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 11:56 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 22, 2013 11:56 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 11:56 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2013 11:57 AM (23Kgq)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 22, 2013 11:57 AM (+H/11)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 22, 2013 03:55 PM (RZ8pf)
Terry Pratchett refers to it as the Greengrocers Apostrophe. It pop's up wherever it feels' like bein'g.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:57 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:58 AM (sByIH)
We are living in a tyranny now.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 03:55 PM (66ULQ)
Man no kidding. The malls were fucking great in the 80's, especially around christmas time.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 22, 2013 11:58 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Preezy Choom at November 22, 2013 11:59 AM (lVPtV)
That's why Mitt Romney is now winning by 7%, a year after the election. He would have won by the same amount last year, had the media not covered for Obama.
Posted by: TallDave at November 22, 2013 11:59 AM (/s1LA)
Posted by: Open Border Rino at November 22, 2013 11:59 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 11:59 AM (4df7R)
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I'm one of those people. No way in hell I'm signing up for Obamacare. I'm willing to bet there are loads of penalties, taxes, and/or paybacks buried in the seventh circle of regulations if you accept subsidies that you don't later qualify for. I'm sure loads of IRS agents will be happy to crawl up my ass given the chance. No thanks.
Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 12:00 PM (eHc+1)
Mitt Romney gave a woman cancer
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 22, 2013 03:57 PM (nTgAI)
Oh it is landmark legislation alright. Real noticeable the way the smoke curls out of the crater and the secondary and tertiary explosions are still going off.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 12:00 PM (hLRSq)
Does this nitwit not understand the callous disregard of gun violence on this Holy Day when the 2nd most brilliant President was killed 50 years ago today!!!!!
Posted by: Piers Morgan at November 22, 2013 12:00 PM (aTXUx)
-(impartial journalist)Mark Halperin 8/6/2009
Posted by: Lizzy at November 22, 2013 12:00 PM (JRmiD)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 22, 2013 12:00 PM (ZshNr)
Don't forget certain precincts that mysteriously didn't have a single vote for Romney. Not one.
But Voter ID is raaaacisssss.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 12:00 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 22, 2013 12:01 PM (+H/11)
Posted by: Pttdu Apiptix at November 22, 2013 12:01 PM (SwHqo)
Posted by: Teh Lawd at November 22, 2013 12:01 PM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at November 22, 2013 12:01 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 04:00 PM (hLRSq)
And right in the middle of that smoking crater? A big black obelisk.
Clearly racist.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:01 PM (4df7R)
>>The ban, passed by the city of San Rafael, applies to both owners and renters, ABC News reported Thursday.
.
.
.Ex Post Facto...Not sure how they can change the law after a person has bought a house or signed a lease that is silent about smoking in their own residence. This isn't something that applies to a public place. It will get shot down soon.
Posted by: Registered Voter at November 22, 2013 12:01 PM (xqjwP)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 12:01 PM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Boston Herald at November 22, 2013 12:01 PM (m2CN7)
'I agree. If only we had some kind of institution whose primary mission it was to scrutinize the claims of politicians, contact experts, and report the major facts about major new legislation to the public.'
And, maybe a major publication or three who thought to write an OP-ED that did it's best to highlight the dangers of a Majority Political Party passing major legislation without Bi-Partisan support affecting all 330 million citizens, might not be a wise move or consistent with a Constitutional Republic form of governing. At this point we should maybe think about returning or at least moth-balling the Lady Liberty in NY.
Posted by: the amazing cult of kool aid at November 22, 2013 12:01 PM (eQZZW)
citizen. That is immoral....to be a country this wealthy and be the only
industrialized democracy that hasnÂ’t figured out how to cover everyone."
And it's not even true. You're much more likely to be denied care in any other OECD country.
Posted by: TallDave at November 22, 2013 12:01 PM (/s1LA)
Has the guy never thought to stop and look at that picture before? Maybe a narcissist like him actually didn't, but nobody believes these stupid staged pictures except maybe Chris Matthews.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2013 12:02 PM (iGPSR)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 22, 2013 12:02 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 12:03 PM (l2h4p)
Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at November 22, 2013 12:03 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 22, 2013 12:03 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Chilling the most at November 22, 2013 12:04 PM (gxtMZ)
citizen. That is immoral....to be a country this wealthy and be the only
industrialized democracy that hasnÂ’t figured out how to cover everyone."
-(impartial journalist)Mark Halperin 8/6/2009
Posted by: Lizzy at November 22, 2013 04:00 PM (JRmiD)
STOP.
Collaborate and listen.
Maybe, just maybe, 2009 version of Marky Mark Halperin, the reason we're the wealthiest nation in the history of the world is precisely BECAUSE of how we have traditionally chosen to use public funds. Namely, by NOT using them to pay for everyone's free shit.
But whatever. Go back to farting out of your assmouth, dickbrain.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:04 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Caliban at November 22, 2013 12:04 PM (DrC22)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 22, 2013 12:04 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Tingles Matthews at November 22, 2013 12:05 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:05 PM (sByIH)
In theory that's true.
In practice stupid people have stupid ears and incentives to keep talking.
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 12:05 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 22, 2013 04:04 PM (4df7R)
That's the main character defect of Liberals , second to the inability to make logical comparisons. They cannot discern cause and effect.
Posted by: polynikes at November 22, 2013 12:06 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Chief Brodie at November 22, 2013 12:07 PM (Pr6hk)
It is noteworthy that Obama picked someone very competent for THAT job. National security? The economy? Any mediocre political hack will do. Nothing but the best for propaganda images!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 22, 2013 04:04 PM (dfYL9)
And boy does it have the press photogs PISSED.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:08 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 22, 2013 12:08 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 22, 2013 04:08 PM (7ObY1)
Shouldn't that be "bug's" the crap out of you?
I KEED!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:09 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: no good deed at November 22, 2013 12:09 PM (HsJeN)
Now it seems Oregon is using fax machines to get their ObamaCare applications in.
ObamaCare in not a health insurance plan, it is a time-portal. we have gone back to the 1990's with faxes. Soon it will be the 1980's with FedEx. If we do not end this soon we will be reverting to papyrus scrolls and clay tablets.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 12:09 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 22, 2013 12:10 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: no good deed at November 22, 2013 04:09 PM (HsJeN)
Everything is Romney's fault. It's also Romney's fault that he's not Bush, which would make blaming him for everything even easier.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:10 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: RWC at November 22, 2013 12:10 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 22, 2013 12:10 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: apothecarthesis at November 22, 2013 12:10 PM (R6JT1)
Yeah, because THAT'S secure. Sounds legit.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:10 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 04:09 PM (hLRSq)
After this douchebag gets done with us you'll be hearing "hey bang the rocks together"
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 22, 2013 12:11 PM (FMbng)
If there are 15 of them its OK.
Posted by: Jean at November 22, 2013 12:11 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: akula51 at November 22, 2013 04:03 PM (l2h4p)
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I was just in my 40's in 1989. But I remember going to the mall and letting my wife shop while I sat on a bench and smoked and watched the crowds go by. It was vibrant then. People laughed and looked like life was, at least, pretty good. There were no abandoned stores and the stores that were their all looked like they were doing a brisk business.
So much has changed.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 12:11 PM (66ULQ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 12:12 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: ejo at November 22, 2013 12:12 PM (GXvSO)
I blame the ensuing social isolation for why my brain thinks up weird shit all the time.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:12 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 22, 2013 12:12 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:12 PM (sByIH)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 22, 2013 04:10 PM (ZshNr) <<<<<
Now we just tell them bitches to suck us and then we go knockout some old lady.
Posted by: Current Society Thugs at November 22, 2013 12:13 PM (iGPSR)
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 22, 2013 12:13 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 12:14 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at November 22, 2013 12:14 PM (9Bdcz)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 12:14 PM (l2h4p)
Posted by: Oregon Health Services at November 22, 2013 12:14 PM (+H/11)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 22, 2013 12:14 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: EROWMER at November 22, 2013 12:16 PM (OONaw)
Since they are ambushed so often, why even put them in positions of power?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 22, 2013 12:16 PM (fWOX0)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at November 22, 2013 12:16 PM (pj6Nr)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 22, 2013 12:16 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 12:16 PM (l2h4p)
Posted by: akula51 at November 22, 2013 04:03 PM (l2h4p)
Jewelry Kiosk by Waccamaw Pottery, Levi Outlet, LLBean Outlet, Britches Outlet. Worked at each at one point or another. I am sure there are others that just aren't coming to mind.
Posted by: RWC at November 22, 2013 04:10 PM (fWAjv)
I miss those days. I used to work at a music store in the mall ( go figure) in my senior year in high school. Still have a guitar I got there. It really was the hub of social activity. Cool arcades, wimmins, and even a head shop. lol
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 22, 2013 12:16 PM (FMbng)
As others have mentioned, when he broached the subject of Benghazi, the media viciously attacked him. It's surreal to recall now how for the MSM, the Benghazi story, the Benghazi scandal and outrage, was all about *Romney*. After all, what in the world could Obama possibly have to do with Benghazi? It was all about evil callous irresponsible blundering politicizing *Romney*.
So if I am to understand the MSM here:
A) Republicans are to blame when they speak up on an issue, proffer any criticisms or warnings. If only they'd shut up, the MSM would/could do their job.
B) Republicans are to blame when (one particular Republican, Romney) isn't "well positioned" to speak on an issue. If only the GOP nominee were "better positioned" or spoken louder, the MSM would/could follow up and do their job.
Sigh.
NB Politico's assertion about Republicans' "dubious claims." Put aside for the moment the fact that (as Ace points out) most of those claims were grounded and true.
What about all the Democrats' "dubious"-- not just dubious, but egregiously false-- claims about Obamacare????????!!!! So the lying Democrats don't get any blame for journalism's pathetic disgraceful failure on the subject of Obamacare, but *Republicans* do??????
Yeah that makes sense.
Posted by: lael at November 22, 2013 12:16 PM (ZVcLL)
Neither do I.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2013 12:17 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:17 PM (sByIH)
Posted by: RWC at November 22, 2013 12:17 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at November 22, 2013 12:18 PM (dvRYt)
Posted by: polynikes at November 22, 2013 12:18 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 12:18 PM (VtjlW)
When the WH releases the offical picture, then there is no copyright or potential licensing fees to be made.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2013 12:19 PM (iGPSR)
Posted by: Low Information Media at November 22, 2013 12:19 PM (2rsFT)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 22, 2013 12:19 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Captain Glenn Quagmire at November 22, 2013 12:20 PM (1o4B5)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 12:20 PM (l2h4p)
Posted by: MSM at November 22, 2013 12:20 PM (Vv4Go)
The name "Tom's Levis" just invites people to steal. Next time, they should try something like "Tom's Levis and Grand Jury Subpoenas."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2013 12:21 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 22, 2013 12:21 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: MFM at November 22, 2013 12:21 PM (j0wOO)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 04:18 PM (VtjlW)
See? If you weren't so afraid of me, you could have saved a lot of writing "f"'s by just writing shi't!
Posted by: Apostrophe at November 22, 2013 12:23 PM (+H/11)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 04:18 PM (VtjlW)
I have to get things done early. If I proof too close to the actual writing I miss things that are rather obvious - such as the sentence that needs to be right here in order for the entire paragraph to make any sense.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 12:23 PM (hLRSq)
I'm not reading through 400+ comments so I'm sure someone's already mentioned this, but you gotta love seeing Obama yet again get the ol' Journolist band back together:
"Present at the meeting: MSNBCÂ’s Ed Schultz and Lawrence OÂ’Donnell, Washington Post economics blogger Ezra Klein, Mother Jones Washington bureau chief David Corn, Talking Points Memo editor and publisher Josh Marshall, ThinkProgress editor-in-chief Judd Legum, Atlantic senior editor Garance Franke-Ruta, Salon political writer Brian Beutler and Fox News contributor Juan Williams."
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, ED SCHULTZ???? Seriously? That's gotta sting for Sad Beard Yglesias.
Posted by: radar at November 22, 2013 12:24 PM (eNZFc)
No I don't think this will actually result in pulled licenses since the FCC is packed with progs ; but sending an active signal might be better than just sighing and going to AOSHQ to learn what is really going on in the world while the progda continues to mislead the low-info crowd who do get to vote. Some stations may even hold their noses and report more of the truth.
Posted by: palerider at November 22, 2013 12:24 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 12:24 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: RWC at November 22, 2013 12:24 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 22, 2013 12:25 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 22, 2013 12:26 PM (Jsiw/)
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ATC, I write a lot too, and must proof my own work before sending it to clients, and a tactic I use is to read the text out loud.
Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 12:26 PM (eHc+1)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 22, 2013 12:26 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: RWC at November 22, 2013 12:27 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 22, 2013 12:27 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 12:27 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at November 22, 2013 12:28 PM (2rsFT)
Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 04:26 PM (eHc+1)
I am going to do that for the next brief. Thanks Mayday.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 12:28 PM (hLRSq)
I hear that @AceofSpadesHQ has a good media bashing post up, but Imma wait for it to be on The Federalist before I read it. #LessonsFromCAC
Posted by: RWC at November 22, 2013 04:24 PM (fWAjv)
LOL!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 12:29 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at November 22, 2013 12:30 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: steevy at November 22, 2013 12:30 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 22, 2013 04:26 PM (MhA4j)
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Now that I think about it, maybe it was the night before last. I know it was within the last two or three days. Time gets fuzzy sometimes working the night shift.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 12:30 PM (66ULQ)
Posted by: Roy at November 22, 2013 12:31 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 12:31 PM (ix+5k)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 12:31 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: tbodie at November 22, 2013 12:31 PM (EYfcP)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 22, 2013 12:31 PM (MhA4j)
Don't forget certain precincts that mysteriously didn't have a single vote for Romney. Not one.
But Voter ID is raaaacisssss.
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That was here in Philly. They also had at least one instance where the Republican poll watchers (brave souls, them) were forcibly removed from the polling place and were kept out for a couple of hours.
I think voter ID is common sense, but I don't know how it helps in these places where votes are just manufactured out of thin air. Especially when the GOP and law enforcement don't even do cursory investigations.
Posted by: UpperDecker at November 22, 2013 12:32 PM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 22, 2013 04:27 PM (ZshNr)
Yeah, that was exactly the malls in jersey.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 22, 2013 12:32 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 12:33 PM (eHc+1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 12:33 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mark Levin sock puppet at November 22, 2013 12:34 PM (F58x4)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 12:34 PM (VtjlW)
Since the "l was too drunk to know what I was doing" defense was thrown out the MFM had to try something new.
Damn.....
Posted by: eleven at November 22, 2013 12:34 PM (GXZgZ)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 22, 2013 12:35 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 12:35 PM (ix+5k)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 22, 2013 12:35 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 12:36 PM (aDwsi)
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That schedule works for me. Or take an extra day or two, whatever.
Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 12:37 PM (eHc+1)
I'll procrastinate later. I have to talk to the internet right now.
I'm waiting for my toilet to scrub itself and my carpet to vacuum itself.
Posted by: eleven at November 22, 2013 12:37 PM (GXZgZ)
metal shirts on. Then there were the naturally pretty chicks working
the sweater vest/skirt look. I learned my lesson with the big hairs,
stuck to the sweater puppies.
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 22, 2013 04:27 PM (ZshNr)
Yeah, that was exactly the malls in jersey.
Sheeeeeit, it was the malls everywhere. As a middle-schooler in late-'80s Richmond, we used to sit on the benches across from Up Against the Wall and watch all the trashy metal chicks with the big hair, skintight acid-wash black jeans and ripped Metallica and Def Leppard shirts go in and out.
Posted by: radar at November 22, 2013 12:39 PM (eNZFc)
Apparently the rule is
1) If the GOP didn't complain about Issue X then it's not the fault of the press, because the GOP should have complained about Issue X.
2) If the GOP did complain about Issue X, then it's not the fault of the press, because the GOP politicized Issue X.
Posted by: TallDave at November 22, 2013 12:39 PM (/s1LA)
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I know hearing my own writing would be. This thread is just chock full of helpful hints today.
Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 12:40 PM (eHc+1)
Wow. That's why I'm all fucked up, too.
Well, it's on the list.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 22, 2013 12:40 PM (ZKzrr)
to first. That forces you to read what you actually wrote as opposed
to what you think you did.
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ATC, I write a lot too, and must proof my own work before sending it to clients, and a tactic I use is to read the text out loud.
Posted by: Mayday
That's interesting- I backward-read too. I've been writing since I was a kid. When my 1st wife and I oppressed the working class I did all the ad work for our businesses, including ad copy. Which is probably why I'll never write a book- I write in snippets.
Posted by: backhoe at November 22, 2013 12:43 PM (ULH4o)
Bottom line: if Obamacare were introduced now, with only the media able to know everything about it that they now know and aware of all their previous failures of due diligence and the consequences of these to the American people, they would cover it EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.
Posted by: rrpjr at November 22, 2013 12:43 PM (pH8WZ)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 22, 2013 12:45 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 22, 2013 12:49 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Dan at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (gR5OX)
People argue the reality of "writer's block." Just speaking of personal experience. After my K-9 partner died in 1990 I could not write more than a sentence or so. It was awful. I also quit listening to music and playing the keyboards.
Then Emmy died in 2010 and the floodgates opened. In between the coroner hauling her body off and her brother coming here to ask "What the Hell happened to my sister?" I started "Miss Emily has died" on FD. At about page 60 I ran out of her stuff to post so it went fallow. A few weeks after her death I started "Letters to Miss Emily...." there. More sentimental, and around page 70 it became less and less about her and more and more about my daily slog thru life. I still write there ever day. Link in nick.
Posted by: backhoe at November 22, 2013 12:56 PM (ULH4o)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 22, 2013 01:16 PM (sJlgq)
But the problem with Obamacare’s stumbling start is that it shined a harsh light on intended consequences — more costs and more government regulation — that were always embedded in the ACA but were deliberately downplayed by Obama and Democrats on the way to passage.
And Hitler's concentration camp administrators always downplayed the side effects of the delousing processes at the showers.
The words required here is not "deliberately downplayed." Try "shamelessly lied about".
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 22, 2013 01:22 PM (sJlgq)
Posted by: kansas at November 22, 2013 01:43 PM (mka2b)
Posted by: Midnight Clad at November 22, 2013 02:45 PM (UmiEz)
I love the point you hit pretty well: The media believes its job is to be the primary investigator on all sorts of subjects, including politics, but only when Republicans are in charge and the media is investigating them.
When Democrats are in charge, the media acts as if it can only report Republican criticism of those Democrats. Then of course, they can dismiss that criticism almost entirely by denouncing it as partisan.
Posted by: Steve at November 22, 2013 04:23 PM (RP9R6)
Posted by: burt at November 23, 2013 04:10 AM (1+kJ5)
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Posted by: Waterhouse at November 22, 2013 10:54 AM (yobtO)