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November 06, 2013

Mark Obenshain (R) now up by 491 in Virginia AG results
— CAC

With all precincts reported, he is enjoying a 49.91 to 49.88 leadover Democrat Mark Herring. Provisional ballots are not all in, and there will certainly be a recount. But it's looking a lot better than when Gabe posted the last update.
I recall the undulations in Wisconsin in 2011 which eventually yielded a victorious Prosser.
I also recall them for a very disappointed Coleman in Minnesota.
#AOSHQDD will stay on it.

Posted by: CAC at 07:55 AM | Comments (145)
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1 A tiny silver lining.

Posted by: NC Ref at November 06, 2013 07:56 AM (R+XGs)

2 Oh go %^@# yourselves wingnutz!

Posted by: JoAnne Kloppenburg at November 06, 2013 07:58 AM (oFCZn)

3 military absentee ballots counted yet?

Posted by: Mallfly at November 06, 2013 07:59 AM (bJm7W)

4 Too few votes. This one will get stolen.

Posted by: ZEK 1317 at November 06, 2013 08:00 AM (ChpRS)

5 It's like a nice pickle on the side with our shit sandwich.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 06, 2013 08:00 AM (bHEwy)

6 I'm sure the Dems will find boxes full of Dem votes in a trunk or something.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 06, 2013 08:02 AM (7ObY1)

7 This is a Big F*cking Deal. With Terry the swashbuckling car salesman in the Governor's seat, its good to know there will be a stalking horse with subpoena power watching his every move.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 06, 2013 08:02 AM (oDCMR)

8 I hear Al Franken is in charge of the recount.

Posted by: Kate58 at November 06, 2013 08:03 AM (MvtKs)

9 I'm sure Senator Franken's people are on it.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 08:04 AM (kaGpp)

10 Nice job, VA. You elected a blatantly criminal and corrupt bag man as guvner. Embrace the Suck.

Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville, maintaining a simulacrum of normality at November 06, 2013 08:04 AM (omBWL)

11 Here's hoping.

This race is the difference between T Mac winning VA for HILLARY! and winning bracelets.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 06, 2013 08:04 AM (9jfyN)

12 If Cucinelli had only supported the new taxes and rail lines that McDonnell forced through, he could have won as a moderate. Well, at least the big GOP donors would not have supported the democrat.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 06, 2013 08:04 AM (9T/th)

Oh, so I guess no fucking money hurt all our candidates, eh?

Keep on keeping on "consultant" class of GOP. You are so mighty and powerful and wise.

Predicting the future is hard, eh? Here's a prediction: In a toss up state you will fucking lose every time when your candidate is spent into the ground.

Carry on.

Posted by: prescient11 at November 06, 2013 08:04 AM (y8MBg)

14 Yeah, the Ds ALWAYS win recounts. Like in Wisconsin, right?

Posted by: CAC at November 06, 2013 08:05 AM (DuAci)

15 5 It's like a nice pickle on the side with our shit sandwich. --- So long as it isn't kosher

Posted by: Ron Paul at November 06, 2013 08:05 AM (SO2Q8)

16 A Democrat Party whose basic premise is that Voter ID lessens their opportunity for electoral fraud can easily make up that gap.

Posted by: Marcis at November 06, 2013 08:06 AM (GGCsk)

17 I thought read the Dem was ahead by 500 points?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 06, 2013 08:06 AM (9+ccr)

18 Dammit. I just posted what I thought was a cogent, if pessimistic, comment in the lower thread and this one comes in. The horde will flee that thread like a flock of starlings with ADHD.

Posted by: toby928© at November 06, 2013 08:06 AM (QupBk)

11 Here's hoping.

This race is the difference between T Mac winning VA for HILLARY! and winning bracelets.

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You are assuming that Terry's positives will be in good order by 2016 to endorse the She Beast. My gut tells me there is little love of Terry and his shelf life is limited.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 06, 2013 08:06 AM (oDCMR)

20 For those who keep harping on the Cuccinelli-as-SoCon excuse, he won independents by 9% and only lost the female vote by 9%. The issue wasn't social conservatism. It was the media.

I am thinking more and more seriously about a PAC that targets specific media figures for public mockery using guerrilla marketing. This needs to happen to prepare the battlespace for 2014 and 2016. People like Ace, or any of you regular commenters here would be much more adept at this than I am, so I'm thinking a crowd-sourced model for both funding and messaging. That seems like it would increase buy-in and visibility. Kind of a "Let's TP the Principal's House" feel.

Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 06, 2013 08:06 AM (346rt)

21 OT: Boy, that Boston Globe op ed in the side bar is truly astounding.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 06, 2013 08:07 AM (Hx5uv)

22 hopefully the unexpected closeness of the race is a harbinger of the electoral devestation the ACA is unleashing...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 06, 2013 08:07 AM (SO2Q8)

23 I'm sure the Dems will find boxes full of Dem votes in a trunk or something.
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Maybe they can buy some on eBay.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 06, 2013 08:08 AM (Hx5uv)

24 Wait, I've heard many times over the past several days that Mark Obenshain was the "weak link" on Virginia's ticket and thus ensured Cucinelli's loss, yet he may...win?

Can't be true.

Posted by: Marcus at November 06, 2013 08:08 AM (GGCsk)

25 We're thinking Terry faces a rough road.

Posted by: Republican Supermajority in the Virginia Legislature at November 06, 2013 08:09 AM (oFCZn)

26 Within the margin of fraud. The D will take it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 06, 2013 08:09 AM (32Ze2)

27 #AOSHQDD will stay on it.

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Thanks CAC.

Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 08:09 AM (P6QsQ)

28 12 Vashta Nerada at November 06, 2013 12:04 PM (9T/th)

I'm thinking the GOP needs to back the Muslim Brotherhood and the Pals more that'll win the elections for us.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 06, 2013 08:09 AM (9jfyN)

29 From Wisconsin, here's hoping your VA morons win your AG recount. Get ready for a lot of craziness.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 06, 2013 08:09 AM (HVff2)

30 We're thinking Terry faces a rough road. Posted by: Republican Supermajority in the Virginia Legislature at November 06, 2013 12:09 PM (oFCZn) WeÂ’re thinking you fold first.

Posted by: MFM, now with more photos of dead babies at November 06, 2013 08:10 AM (QF8uk)

We are now less than 3 years from electing a new president.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 06, 2013 08:10 AM (SO2Q8)

32 It would be nice to have a Rep. retain the AG seat in Virginia..... Could keep McAwful on edge waiting for the hammer to come down. What ever happened to the investigation into his dirty dealings? Still on-going?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 06, 2013 08:11 AM (9+ccr)

33 I have a delivery for Mark Herring.

Posted by: Al Franken at November 06, 2013 08:11 AM (nsOJa)

34
Oh, so I guess no fucking money hurt all our candidates, eh?
Posted by: prescient11

Polls and/or sodomy.

We've got plenty of excuses. Take all you want.

Posted by: Team Republican

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 08:12 AM (kdS6q)

35 404Care. A winning issue.

Posted by: MTF at November 06, 2013 08:13 AM (B5y+v)

36 There legislature remained pretty much the same right? The Reps have an edge in the House?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 06, 2013 08:13 AM (9+ccr)

37 Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 12:09 PM (P6QsQ) Now that's funny right there, mama.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 06, 2013 08:14 AM (da5Wo)

38 481 votes? Hell, the DNC will fraud that difference in a DeBlasio minute.

Posted by: MacGruber at November 06, 2013 08:14 AM (sWgE+)

39 What does this have to do with my live in doctor arriving from Obamacare?

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at November 06, 2013 08:15 AM (nsOJa)

40 OT: Christie wants to help Lindsey Graham win reelection. sigh...

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 06, 2013 08:15 AM (1Y+hH)

41 404Care. A winning issue. You got Sibelious today testifying that obamacare is gonna save us money?F**king liar...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 06, 2013 08:15 AM (9+ccr)

42 14 Yeah, the Ds ALWAYS win recounts. Like in Wisconsin, right? Posted by: CAC at November 06, 2013 12:05 PM (DuAci) he'll be fine as long as he does the opposite of Coleman

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 06, 2013 08:16 AM (HEa5q)

43 Christie wants to help Lindsey Graham win reelection.
sigh... Posted by: Meremortal,

Why do I feel no shock?

Posted by: dogfish at November 06, 2013 08:17 AM (nsOJa)

44 40 OT: Christie wants to help Lindsey Graham win reelection. sigh... Krispy's giant ego is only going to get bigger now. Bigger than his waistline.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 06, 2013 08:17 AM (7ObY1)

45 he'll be fine as long as he does the opposite of Coleman Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 06, 2013 12:16 PM (HEa5q) Coleman got no help from the Republican Governor...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 06, 2013 08:17 AM (9+ccr)

46 This morning, when I heard they elected a Clintonista my first thought was... Virginia is for ~~lovers~~ idiots.

Posted by: teej at November 06, 2013 08:18 AM (M3APu)

47 Now that's funny right there, mama.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 06, 2013 12:14 PM (da5Wo)

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Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 08:18 AM (P6QsQ)

48 According to some, in the last thread, it all comes down to butt-fucking and abortion. If you are a Republican, all you need to do to win is lie about your views, or get with the "progressive" point of view. Be a Democrat, or camouflage yourself as one.

Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2013 08:19 AM (2NeaA)

49
OT: Christie wants to help Lindsey Graham win reelection.

Goes well with:

Report: Christie Refused to Campaign for Cuccinelli

Don't you think?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 08:20 AM (kdS6q)

50 40 Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 06, 2013 12:15 PM (1Y+hH)

Come on down you fat fuck...you are real popular here you're Sidam's brother

Posted by: sven10077 at November 06, 2013 08:20 AM (9jfyN)

51 According to some, in the last thread, it all comes down to butt-fucking and abortion.
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So now the smart move is to get caught in bed with a live boy. I assume dead girls are still off the table.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 06, 2013 08:20 AM (Hx5uv)

52 At least two of McAuliffe's investigations are US DOJ and SEC. You got a lot of faith in them?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 06, 2013 08:22 AM (l3vZN)

Hope the R's are watching those ballots like a hawk.

And at what point do we have to bash candidates over the head and tell them that the message is, "The EXECUTIVE branch of government isn't responsible for making and passing laws; only for signing them once they pass both chambers of lower government"?

ESPECIALLY in these state-wide Governor's races.

Ladies, you want the right to kill your kid? Governor can't do anything about taking that "right" away from you.

Gents (and/or ladies), you want to screw each other in the privacy of your own home? Have at it - Governor can't do anything about that, either.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 06, 2013 08:22 AM (PZ6/M)

This VA election may be a gift. Two years is plenty enough time for TMac to completely fuck up a "purple" state and push into the "Red" for 2016.

Posted by: Icedog at November 06, 2013 08:22 AM (GYTqM)

55 Perhaps conservatives will have a better chance of moving their policy preferences by trying to resurrect the conservative wing of the Democratic party than sticking with the tainted brand of the Republicans. It might be better to be a losing faction in a winning party than a losing faction in a losing party.

Posted by: toby928© heretic at November 06, 2013 08:23 AM (QupBk)

56 Virginia is for lovers idiots. Posted by: teej at November 06, 2013 12:18 PM (M3APu)

Posted by: former Kansas Governor Sebelius at November 06, 2013 08:23 AM (l3vZN)

57 Until the Dems in VA starts "finding" boxes and boxes of ballots with 100% voting for the lib. (ala Al Franken)

Posted by: Book at November 06, 2013 08:25 AM (qWES6)

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 06, 2013 12:20 PM (Hx5uv)

Yeah.... the idea that you can buy an election.... or loose one by not spending enough money? Poppycock!!

10:1? 25:1? That your message is never heard, over the screaming of your opponent... unimportant...

That there are Robocalls out telling blatant LIES about the Candidate?? Unprooven of course... but I'm sure our Democrat controlled Federal Elections Board will get right on the allegation...

And Media Bias? In an area around Washington DC??? Preposterous!

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 06, 2013 08:25 AM (lZBBB)

54 This VA election may be a gift. Two years is plenty enough time for TMac to completely fuck up a "purple" state and push into the "Red" for 2016.

Agree totally. TMac may make VA unwinnable for the She Beast.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 06, 2013 08:25 AM (oDCMR)

So now the smart move is to get caught in bed with a live boy. I assume dead girls are still off the table.
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Mostly

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at November 06, 2013 08:25 AM (SO2Q8)

61 We need voter ID. Seriously. Ugh.

Posted by: Book at November 06, 2013 08:25 AM (qWES6)

62 This short-sighted idea about shading your views to get elected perverts the system and is part of why it doesn't function properly anymore. It leads to a disappointed and disinterested population that dislikes politicians in general.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 06, 2013 08:25 AM (1Y+hH)

63 please be advised that we will be closed and out for vacation until further notice. for emergency please contact the coup de grace department which will remain open during this pause.

Posted by: Prefrence Cascade at November 06, 2013 08:26 AM (op0uF)

64 It sure is a good thing that Virginia elected a new governor who loves him some Obamacare. Especially since they have such great plans on the exchange. Like this plan from Loudon County. It's the worst I've seen yet. IH Classic 3500 PD: MO Innovation Health Insurance Company Deductible $3,500 Coinsurance 20% Out of Pocket Maximum $6,350 More Details Monthly Cost $4,758.68 Premium: $5,075.37 Subsidy: $316.69 - See more at: http://www.valuepenguin.com/ppaca/exchanges/va#sthash.y2EV9JHJ.dpuf

Posted by: Rangers Fans Everywhere at November 06, 2013 08:26 AM (hFL/3)

65 /sad baseball sock

Posted by: Lauren at November 06, 2013 08:26 AM (hFL/3)

66 According to some, in the last thread, it all comes down to butt-fucking and abortion. If you are a Republican, all you need to do to win is lie about your views, or get with the "progressive" point of view. Be a Democrat, or camouflage yourself as one.

Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2013 12:19 PM (2NeaA)
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The problem is that after 40 some years of steady effort the left's control of public education and the media has finally succeeded in dumbing down the electorate to the point where critical thinking is virtually nonexistent and people decide en-mass to support whoever and whatever the "Cool Kids" think is "cool".

And the "Cool Kids" are the Democrats.

Most of the electorate has been reduced to a nation of stupid middle-schoolers.

And one should never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Posted by: Nighthawk at November 06, 2013 08:26 AM (OtQXp)

67 So now the smart move is to get caught in bed with a live boy. I assume dead girls are still off the table. I dunno. I did have to resign, but then again I did get a cushy job at MSNBC.

Posted by: Joe Scarborough at November 06, 2013 08:26 AM (7ObY1)

68 <54 This VA election may be a gift. Two years is plenty enough time for TMac to completely fuck up a "purple" state and push into the "Red" for 2016. >

The way Virginia's Legislature looks at the moment, McAuliffe will probably trip on his dick if he pushes that agenda.

Posted by: Marcus at November 06, 2013 08:27 AM (GGCsk)

69 His lead just jumped to 680 votes, and there is a trail of paper ballots that will be harder to screw with.

Posted by: buzz at November 06, 2013 08:28 AM (i27M5)

19>You are assuming that Terry's positives will be in good order by 2016 to endorse the She Beast. My gut tells me there is little love of Terry and his shelf life is limited.

Macaw can't govern hard-left and be popular in VA. If he tries, his approval will sink to the 40's at best and delivering VA to Hill will be... a problem.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at November 06, 2013 08:28 AM (SCcgT)

71 #55...... Out here in "jesusland" we still have some Conservative Democrats, on a county and occasionally state level. They are a reflection of those who elect them. A lot of them are more Conservative than "urban" Republicans.

Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2013 08:28 AM (2NeaA)

72 This short-sighted idea about shading your views to get elected perverts the system and is part of why it doesn't function properly anymore.
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The local paper had this Bob Hope quote this morning: "No one party can fool all of the people all of the time. That's why we have two parties."

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 06, 2013 08:29 AM (Hx5uv)

73 I was about to put this in the last thread, when the stomp happened. I'm kind of disgusted by seeing Ace repeatedly post the Dem meme that Cuccinelli wants to use sodomy laws to persecute teh gays. He used those laws to put pedos in jail. It's the easiest thing in the world to counter, and even turn against them against McAuliffe, but it takes balls. Here's how you do it: You start by using one of McAuliffe's own commercials. I didn't see any of them, not being in Va., but I understand they were legion. Your commercial starts with one of his. (ominous music, menacing voiceover) AG Cuccinelli wants to enact laws outlawing gay people! Blah, blah. Let this run for about 5-7 seconds so that people think it's actually one of McAuliffe's ads. Use whatever ad he had that was most offensive/bombastic/widest run. After 7 seconds, pull the camera back so we see Cuccinelly standing beside a HDTV that's running the ad. Cuccinelli gestures over his shoulder at the TV. "I'm AG Ken Cuccinelli, and this is utter bull crap. I have no desire to interfere with the sex lives of consenting adults. As your AG, I used the laws in question to arrest and prosecute (whatever the number is, 2 dozen, 100, 500, whatever) dangerous pedophiles, including (use most egregious example, say, Joe Blow who forcibly sodomized a 4 year old boy in Richmond last year). My opponent opposes those laws, so I simply wonder which of those (whatever number) pedophiles he wants released to prey on Virginia's innocent children? I think Virginia voters deserve to know. I'm Ken Cucchelli and I approved this message" When your opponent is lying about you, you punch him in the fucking teeth with it! Then you turn it back on him. How damn hard is that? We could win all over if our candidates had the fucking stones to stand toe-to toe with Dem lies. Instead for some insane reason Rs seem determined to take the high road. Well, we've been doing that and the Dems always get to Scotland 'afore us.

Posted by: Weirddave at November 06, 2013 08:29 AM (N/cFh)

And there went my line breaks and spaces... again

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at November 06, 2013 08:29 AM (SCcgT)

75 Yeah, the Ds ALWAYS win recounts.

Like in Wisconsin, right?

Posted by: CAC at November 06, 2013 12:05 PM (DuAci)

Go a bit easy on them, they are mourning. Remember, the Democrats are always diabolically brilliant, the Republicans are always abysmally stupid; the Democrats win every race through cheating, and the Republicans always lose every race because they were robbed. The Democrats are ten feet tall, strong as oxen, and never infight with one another while the Republicans are puny, weak, and are always being betrayed by their leadership.

Let them wallow a bit more in their gentle despair, they will get over it. (And soon, I hope - despairing people do not shop at the Outrage Outlet.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 06, 2013 08:29 AM (hLRSq)

76
C'mon. Plaid maps. You know you want to......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 06, 2013 08:34 AM (TIIx5)

77 When your opponent is lying about you, you punch him in the fucking teeth with it! Then you turn it back on him. How damn hard is that? We could win all over if our candidates had the fucking stones to stand toe-to toe with Dem lies. Instead for some insane reason Rs seem determined to take the high road. Well, we've been doing that and the Dems always get to Scotland 'afore us.

Posted by: Weirddave at November 06, 2013 12:29 PM (N/cFh)

That's brilliant weirddave! I knew there was a reason why I liked you!

Posted by: EC at November 06, 2013 08:35 AM (GQ8sn)

Time for the Dems to rally 'round the "found" ballots. No doubt there were a dozen or so boxes prepared Monday for just such an event.

No voter fraud. Nope, not here!

Posted by: Advo at November 06, 2013 08:35 AM (7vbG1)

79 75 Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 06, 2013 12:29 PM (hLRSq)

You think so?

The idea is being sold that Joisey Buddah just ran a gauntlet and through raw charisma and some unique tapping into the political dynamic won a totally unexpected blowout after weathering a media firestorm....

my political analysis says "sure"

Posted by: sven10077 at November 06, 2013 08:35 AM (9jfyN)

80 Out here in "jesusland" we still have some Conservative Democrats, on a county and occasionally state level. They are a reflection of those who elect them. A lot of them are more Conservative than "urban" Republicans. ------------------- There are still locales where the populace is traditionally Democrats, but conservative folks. Let's call them Reagan Democrats. In those places the yellow-dogs simply check the D column without regard to philosophy. Thus, even the most conservative candidates simply have to run as 'D'. There may be some food for thought there.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 06, 2013 08:35 AM (aDwsi)

81 71 #55...... Out here in "jesusland" we still have some Conservative Democrats, on a county and occasionally state level. They are a reflection of those who elect them. A lot of them are more Conservative than "urban" Republicans. Posted by: tubal

Yep- my late wife was a Southern Democrat. Union member. We got along fine. She was more liberal than I on social issues, very conservative about money, and mess with her friends or family or country she'd happily drop an atom bomb on you. She was a good girl.

Posted by: backhoe at November 06, 2013 08:36 AM (ULH4o)

82 Time for the Dems to rally 'round the "found" ballots. No doubt there were a dozen or so boxes prepared Monday for just such an event. No voter fraud. Nope, not here! Posted by: Advo -------------------------- I have some, if they are needed...

Posted by: Al Franken (Stoner- MN) at November 06, 2013 08:38 AM (aDwsi)

83 C'mon. Plaid maps. You know you want to...... Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 06, 2013 12:34 PM (TIIx5) If we ever got a plaid map with a flaming Blago skull I would deafen dogs worldwide with the squeal I would let out.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 08:38 AM (VtjlW)

84 so anybody think VA was a test run for the Clinton machine in preps for 2016?

Posted by: Bigby's Thumb at November 06, 2013 08:39 AM (a3Nqc)

85 At hearing, Jay Rockefeller says Republicans are working to destroy Obama and Sebelius..., and *that's* the problem.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 06, 2013 08:39 AM (aDwsi)

Posted by: sven10077 at November 06, 2013 12:35 PM (9jfyN)

That people here are mourning, raging, and despairing? Absolutely! That those little comparisons of mine are caricatures of arguments that people make here (I exaggerated for effect)? Certainly. That politicians act like politicians and do what they think will get them and their priorities ahead and will take revenge for slighted egos? As it has ever been and shall ever be.

That this will also pass? Yep.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 06, 2013 08:39 AM (hLRSq)

87 OT: This from drudge. I thought this was interesting.

STOCKHOLM (AP) -- You expect movie ratings to tell you whether a film contains nudity, sex, profanity or violence. Now movie theaters in equality-minded Sweden are introducing a new rating to highlight gender bias, or rather the absence of it.

To get an "A" rating, a movie must pass the so-called Bechdel test, which means it must have at least two named female characters who talk to each other about something other than a man.

"The entire `Lord of the Rings' trilogy, all `Star Wars' movies, `The Social Network,' `Pulp Fiction' and all but one of the `Harry Potter' movies fail this test," said Ellen Tejle, the director of Bio Rio, an art-house movie theater in Stockholm's trendy Sodermalm district.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 06, 2013 08:39 AM (Hx5uv)

88 Hatch - Points out that a bad law is a bad law. The problem may be that those who are invested can not acknowledge that. Hatch calls Sebelius the 'front person'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 06, 2013 08:41 AM (aDwsi)

89 To get an "A" rating, a movie must pass the so-called Bechdel test, which means it must have at least two named female characters who talk to each other about something other than a man.

"The entire `Lord of the Rings' trilogy, all `Star Wars' movies, `The Social Network,' `Pulp Fiction' and all but one of the `Harry Potter' movies fail this test," said Ellen Tejle, the director of Bio Rio, an art-house movie theater in Stockholm's trendy Sodermalm district.

I'm pretty certain a lot of movies would fail that test, including Sweden's own "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" trilogy.

Posted by: EC at November 06, 2013 08:41 AM (GQ8sn)

90 McAwful was put over by federal worker black females in nova. We will never win that demo

Posted by: Thunderb at November 06, 2013 08:41 AM (zOTsN)

91 86 Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 06, 2013 12:39 PM (hLRSq)

I suspect you're about to see an inversion of 2010.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 06, 2013 08:42 AM (9jfyN)

92 There are still locales where the populace is traditionally Democrats, but conservative folks. Yep, I live in one of those locales.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 06, 2013 08:42 AM (7ObY1)

93 BTW, you know who was a cosponsor of the Personhood amendment with Cuccinelli? Mark Obenshain.

Posted by: blaster at November 06, 2013 08:42 AM (W6bkf)

94 And the whole we lost because of socon thing? Cooch won white women It isn't issues It's identity politics

Posted by: Thunderb at November 06, 2013 08:43 AM (zOTsN)

95 If we ever got a plaid map with a flaming Blago skull I would deafen dogs worldwide with the squeal I would let out.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 12:38 PM (VtjlW)

Rut-roh....

Posted by: Scooby Doo at November 06, 2013 08:44 AM (R+XGs)

96 "Out here in "jesusland" we still have some Conservative Democrats, on a county and occasionally state level. They are a reflection of those who elect them. " ----------------- That's true in SW VA too. A lot of knee-jerk (but very conservative) Dems. But they've wised up about the national party. For years and years SW VA was represented in Congress by a Dem (Rick Boucher) who would talk conservative at home then go to DC and vote the liberal party line. Drove me crazy. When he was finally unseated by a Republican in 2010, I thought the Apocalypse was upon us.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 06, 2013 08:44 AM (dfYL9)

97 all but one of the `Harry Potter' movies fail this test,

Wait....which one?

Posted by: EC at November 06, 2013 08:44 AM (GQ8sn)

98 I'm pretty certain a lot of movies would fail that test, including Sweden's own "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" trilogy. If it applied to plays, every Shakespearian play would fail.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 06, 2013 08:44 AM (7ObY1)

99 In my comment above about Conservative Democrats, I simply meant that on a State or local level, it pays to vote for the person and not the label. Let's face it- the road back for Conservatism is going to be long and hard. I suspect that it will start on a State/local level whether we like it or not-and just because some suit wears an R behind their name doesn't mean Jack anymore.

Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2013 08:45 AM (2NeaA)

100 There's a whole genre of weepy girl flicks, what the fuck do they care if action movies aren't ? Will Mamma Mia get an F?

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 06, 2013 08:45 AM (ZshNr)

101

To get an "A" rating, a movie must pass the so-called Bechdel test,
which means it must have at least two named female characters who talk
to each other about something other than a man.

"The entire `Lord of the Rings' trilogy, all `Star Wars' movies, `The Social Network,' `Pulp Fiction' and all but one of the `Harry Potter' movies fail this
test,"

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Yeah, i guess Arwen never does speak to Legolas about hobbits.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 06, 2013 08:45 AM (SO2Q8)

102

To get an "A" rating, a movie must pass the so-called Bechdel test,
which means it must have at least two named female characters who talk
to each other about something other than a man.

---

I'm now A-Rated

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103 94 And the whole we lost because of socon thing? Cooch won white women It isn't issues It's identity politics Posted by: Thunderb at November 06, 2013 12:43 PM (zOTsN) ---------------------- Very interesting. Where are you getting your data?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 06, 2013 08:47 AM (dfYL9)

104 99 tubal at November 06, 2013 12:45 PM (2NeaA)

I'm thinking conservatism would be better served taking back the Democrat graft machine and making unions earn their graft and burning the commies out.

I called this plan B in my after 2008 analysis and ruminated over it being needed in 2012.

If the GOP will not be a home for conservatism then it is better to be a loser in the winning caucus than Chrispy Chreme's leavings.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 06, 2013 08:47 AM (9jfyN)

105 in star wars c3po talks with leia about shit other than luke or solo and nobody can tell me threepio is a man

Posted by: Bigby's Thumb at November 06, 2013 08:47 AM (a3Nqc)

106

Cooch won white women

It isn't issues

It's identity politics

------

The same identities keep winning.

Maybe we need some 'identity' on our side.

Posted by: Beef at November 06, 2013 08:47 AM (XERws)

107 To get an "A" rating, a movie must pass the so-called Bechdel test, which means it must have at least two named female characters who talk to each other about something other than a man. "The entire `Lord of the Rings' trilogy, all `Star Wars' movies, `The Social Network,' `Pulp Fiction' and all but one of the `Harry Potter' movies fail this test," said Ellen Tejle, the director of Bio Rio, an art-house movie theater in Stockholm's trendy Sodermalm district. It sure puts "I am Curious (Yellow)" in the burn bag.

Posted by: former Kansas Governor Sebelius at November 06, 2013 08:48 AM (l3vZN)

108

98 I'm pretty certain a lot of movies would fail that test, including Sweden's own "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" trilogy.

If it applied to plays, every Shakespearian play would fail.

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MacBeth has three women speaking with each other, with nary a word about a man.

ALL. Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.
2 WITCH. Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg, and owlet's wing,Â—
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
ALL. Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 06, 2013 08:48 AM (oDCMR)

109 So is this site now officially purging the "so-con retards"? Just checking.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2013 08:48 AM (ZPrif)

110 Off, you incompetent sock

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 06, 2013 08:48 AM (l3vZN)

111 I suspect you're about to see an inversion of 2010.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 06, 2013 12:42 PM (9jfyN)

We'll see. Each election operates on its own dynamics. I will make one prediction, though - I predict that within two weeks the Virginia election and the New Jersy election and all of the associated perfidy and allegations of back-stabbing, lack of support, and other despicable behavior* will fade away as some other darn-fool thing comes up for everyone to get worked up over.

*AKA: politicians acting normally; when they are all getting along great is when you really have to worry.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 06, 2013 08:49 AM (hLRSq)

112 I'm not even a so-con, so it's amusing getting called a "so-con retard". But just checking on the editorial direction being taken.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2013 08:49 AM (ZPrif)

113

To get an "A" rating, a movie must pass the so-called Bechdel test,
which means it must have at least two named female characters who talk
to each other about something other than a man.
---

Godfather

Citizen Kane

Casablanca

The Artist

all failures

Posted by: Lesbian porn at November 06, 2013 08:50 AM (SO2Q8)

114 So is this site now officially purging the "so-con retards"? Just checking.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2013 12:48 PM (ZPrif)

--------------

I don't think so, Joe. No one's got the boot yet, as far as I know. I think we are just having a family squabble, as all broods do from time to time.

Come Saturday, we'll all be on the recipe threads talking about cocked chicken again.

Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 08:51 AM (P6QsQ)

115 STOCKHOLM (AP) -- You expect movie ratings to tell you whether a film contains nudity, sex, profanity or violence. Now movie theaters in equality-minded Sweden are introducing a new rating to highlight gender bias, or rather the absence of it. To get an "A" rating, a movie must pass the so-called Bechdel test, which means it must have at least two named female characters who talk to each other about something other than a man. "The entire `Lord of the Rings' trilogy, all `Star Wars' movies, `The Social Network,' `Pulp Fiction' and all but one of the `Harry Potter' movies fail this test," said Ellen Tejle, the director of Bio Rio, an art-house movie theater in Stockholm's trendy Sodermalm district. Posted by: WalrusRex at November 06, 2013 12:39 PM (Hx5uv) I hate the Bechdel test with a raging passionate white hot hate of 10,000 burning suns. Yes, the Harry Potter movies, which star Hermione Granger, possibly one of the most self-possessed, intelligent, motivated and self-assured female characters in all of fiction, are horrifically gender biased. Let's not even mention Prof. McGonagall. Oh and then there's Luna who may be the strongest character of the whole bunch. Let us also not bother to mention that the reason they are talking about men so much is that the Big Bad is a guy. Or that the secondary Big Bad is a woman who is killed by another woman. But yeah. The HP movies are sooooooooo misogynistic Serious You Guys. Obligatory BAMFist BAMF ever (okay maybe tied with Guerrero) picture: http://bit.ly/1dNSdvt Okay, fine, one more: http://bit.ly/1bbFv5S Someday I am going to write that HP/Human Target crossover where Neville and Guerrero wander about just being all the BAMF in the universe.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 08:51 AM (VtjlW)

116

All anybody ever did in all the Harry Potter movies was talk about Harry Potter. Male, female.. it didn't matter.

Now, the question is: was Harry Potter a man? When he was 11??

Rework your data there, people.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2013 08:51 AM (TOk1P)

117

To get an "A" rating, a movie must pass the so-called Bechdel test,
which means it must have at least two named female characters who talk
to each other about something other than a man.

Does moaning count?

Posted by: Icedog at November 06, 2013 08:52 AM (GYTqM)

118 i dont think the so con retard thing is an editorial thinger. but they are retards at the moment.

Posted by: Bigby's Thumb at November 06, 2013 08:52 AM (a3Nqc)

119 If a movie features a threatened wedding, at least one gay and/or British accented male lead, a Pretty Woman montage and/or a bad hair day, it get's the Man Hater's Seal of Approval, called the "Rosie".

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 06, 2013 08:52 AM (ZshNr)

120 In my comment above about Conservative Democrats, I simply meant that on a State or local level, it pays to vote for the person and not the label. ----------------- I do that consistently for a local councilman. He is the sole adult among a group of rabid Progressives. He *has* to run as a Democrat, or he would automatically be rejected by the dense (interpret that as you will) population of hipster doofuses and Yankee (sorry, but there it is) carpet baggers that have moved in.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 06, 2013 08:52 AM (aDwsi)

121

"I hate the Bechdel test with a raging passionate white hot hate of 10,000 burning suns."

I love the way you wave your tiny fist around when you get going.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 06, 2013 08:53 AM (hLRSq)

122 #110-perhaps.....I guess we are the assholes that are going off the Plantation of the go along to get along Republican establishment. So - purge away, mon amis. I won' die over you frowns faces. I'll still vote for the Conservative candidates - and Party be damned.

Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2013 08:53 AM (2NeaA)

123 Yea PLEASE, conservatives, keep thinking that wat we need is more Cuccinellys, only with more money this time. - signed, the democrats

Posted by: billybob thornbush at November 06, 2013 08:54 AM (gJeT3)

124 93 BTW, you know who was a cosponsor of the Personhood amendment with Cuccinelli? Mark Obenshain. Posted by: blaster at November 06, 2013 12:42 PM (W6bkf) -------------------- Hence the constant TV ads saying he wants to ban birth control. And yet the liberal, decidedly pro-choice Roanoke Times endorsed him. (They rarely endorse a GOPer.) Incidentally, if Obenchain pulls this out, that endorsement may have been important. I noticed that in Roanoke City there were quite a few split tickets, for McSlime but for Obenchain.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 06, 2013 08:54 AM (dfYL9)

125 So other than Swedes, who goes to movies in Sweden? The Viking blood line has been completely neutered.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 06, 2013 08:54 AM (oDCMR)

126

Shawshank Redemption

12 angry men

Dark Knight

Schinder's List

Inception

Usual Suspects

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Posted by: Lesbian porn at November 06, 2013 08:55 AM (SO2Q8)

127

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 06, 2013 12:54 PM (oDCMR)

Europe and Scandinavia have been completely devoid of Alpha males for several decades now...

Posted by: Icedog at November 06, 2013 08:57 AM (and2K)

128

Sounds like the Punitive Progressive in Sweden want to ban everything that is fun.

"You will watch this movie about two elderly ladies discussing needlepoint for two hours and you will then watch the sequel!"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 06, 2013 08:57 AM (hLRSq)

129 Witches of Eastwick? But he's the Devil, so maybe it doesn't count.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 06, 2013 08:58 AM (ZshNr)

130 greatest A-rated movie based in IMDB might be Alien #40

Posted by: Lesbian porn at November 06, 2013 08:58 AM (SO2Q8)

131

Whoops! Meeting time, got to go.

AtC - could watch the counter for me? I'm sure sales are going to continue being brisk here for a while longer.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 06, 2013 08:58 AM (hLRSq)

132 To get an "A" rating, a movie must pass the so-called Bechdel test, which means it must have at least two named female characters who talk to each other about something other than a man. Well, Ok. That sounds good. But I'm interested to know how many movies would fail this test if you turn it around. Two named male characters talking about something other than a woman. A lot of movies aren't very "talky" even in the era of talkies.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 06, 2013 08:59 AM (sByIH)

133 I love the way you wave your tiny fist around when you get going. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 06, 2013 12:53 PM (hLRSq) Don't forget the foot stomp and the waving arms, sometimes simultaneously which, when combined with my not using profanity and suddenly sounding like Thomas Jefferson, means that it might be time to ponder fleeing.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 09:00 AM (VtjlW)

134

124 -

You and the other dimwits who have decided to take the fight to the conservatives are going to find yourselves out of a party soon.

Signed, everybody with any sense.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2013 09:00 AM (TOk1P)

135 110 So is this site now officially purging the "so-con retards"? Just checking. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2013 12:48 PM (ZPrif) --------------------- Oh, that was just McAdams. I don't think Ace has the least desire to purge so-con retards. I just think he's frustrated by what he (rightly or wrongly) sees as retardation. Let's face it, so-cons do need to play a smarter game, to get wise as serpents. And we need to anticipate the War-on-Wymmmnz. Semper paratus and all of that. Don't make unforced errors.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 06, 2013 09:02 AM (dfYL9)

136 So is this site now officially purging the "so-con retards"? Just checking.

I'm all in favor of purging retards of any stripe.

Losing an election due to stupid shit in the name of social conservatism is no more noble than doing stupid shit under any other banner.

That doesn't mean one has to give up being pro-life, pro-gun or anti-gay marriage. It does mean you can't foolishly portray those views in the most self-destructive way possible.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 06, 2013 09:02 AM (SY2Kh)

137 Don't forget the foot stomp and the waving arms, sometimes simultaneously which, when combined with my not using profanity and suddenly sounding like Thomas Jefferson, means that it might be time to ponder fleeing. Was Jefferson the one who would rap his cane against the ground whenever he had made a statement that was central to his argument? If so, don't forget to wave a cane around in your fury.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 06, 2013 09:04 AM (sByIH)

138 Europe and Scandinavia have been completely devoid of Alpha males for several decades now... Posted by: Icedog ---------------------- I'm pretty sure that it was in Denmark that I first saw a man walking around with a baby strapped to his chest.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 06, 2013 09:05 AM (aDwsi)

139 Was Jefferson the one who would rap his cane against the ground whenever he had made a statement that was central to his argument? If so, don't forget to wave a cane around in your fury. Posted by: bonhomme at November 06, 2013 01:04 PM (sByIH) Yeah. I'm not allowed to do that any more. People get so testy about being whacked in the knees, sheesh.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 09:10 AM (VtjlW)

140 I will be all manner of Conservative whether I choose to point out certain aspects of that, or not. If I were a politician, that would be called shrewd campaigning. Once in office, I would either show my true colors, and risk getting voted out, or reveal myself as a lying sack of shit. So,what to do,what to do? Tough call for anyone who's not an armchair politician. The blame game going on, still, on the last thread is ridiculous, but perhaps cathartic I suppose. There is some Weapons Grade Sophistry being used by someone who dare not be named.

Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2013 09:16 AM (2NeaA)

141 No, did the Dims abandon the gheys and baby killers when they lost elections? No they went tactical. Ballot management, the Secretary of State project, and massive campaign spending are their tools - not disparaging their base because the WaPo says they have to. The Republicans need to concentrate on making me happy, not just happy, fucking enthusiastic again or all the squish votes won't matter.

If the Dims runs a white, gay communist, I want to see a third party black man well funded on ballot. If they ruin a black man, then I want to see a well funded Hispanic women - demanding their share of our pie. Make them pay for their identify politics. Punish the media, find a way. The RNC should never get outspent, ever - fix it.

Posted by: Jean at November 06, 2013 09:17 AM (CMlD4)

142 it's never over until the democrat wins. NEVER.

Posted by: hack at November 06, 2013 09:47 AM (piR98)

143 CAC - Looks like the lead for Obenshain is a little over a thousand at 3pm EST. Mark D. Obenshain 1,100,907 Mark R. Herring 1,099,835 electionresults.virginia.gov/resultsSW.aspx?type=SWR&map=CTY No word on whether Herring's middle name is 'Red'. Thanks for all your Election HQ work. On a personal note ... When I was setting up my VA LLC, I did business with the law firm founded by Obenshain's dad. Never met either father or son, but the firm is a class act all the way.

Posted by: crisis du jour at November 06, 2013 10:58 AM (QHUpb)

144 Okay I just read they found 700 votes for the Dem on Breitbart... Is that true?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 06, 2013 02:06 PM (9+ccr)

145 1000 vote lead is nothing the dem machine can't overcome. Read about the WA state gov election of 2004. After the first count, the R had a ~1,000 vote lead. There were two subsequent recounts. In each one they "found" more ballots until the D won. Later investigations and FOIA requests found more fraudulent absentee votes than the final margin of victory. What did WA do in response? All mail in voting. In the rematch election of 2008, the D's cooked up a Hugo's lawsuit that allowed them to subpoena and depose the R candidate just a few days before the election. The lawsuit was dropped immediately after the D won the election.

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