December 20, 2013

Meghan McArdle: Obamacare Initiates Self-Destruct Sequence
— Ace

Ehhhh... I think this is linkbait-edly overstated but it worked. I'm linking it.

Her basic suggestion is that all of these "tweaks" Obama orders by his Kingly Right of Verbal Legislation have the tendency of undermining the actual viability of Obamacare. (Such as it may be.)

As Ezra Klein points out, this seriously undermines the political viability of the individual mandate: “But this puts the administration on some very difficult-to-defend ground. Normally, the individual mandate applies to anyone who can purchase qualifying insurance for less than 8 percent of their income. Either that threshold is right or it's wrong. But it's hard to argue that it's right for the currently uninsured but wrong for people whose plans were canceled … Put more simply, Republicans will immediately begin calling for the uninsured to get this same exemption. What will the Obama administration say in response? Why are people whose plans were canceled more deserving of help than people who couldn't afford a plan in the first place?”

Arnold Kling put it more pithily: “Obama Repeals Obamacare.”

IÂ’d ask this: What do you do for an encore? Will the administration force these folks to buy insurance next year? Or will they keep allowing special exceptions rather than take the political heat for changing health insurance that people liked?

IÂ’m not sure the administration is thinking that far ahead. The White House is focused on winning the news cycle, day by day, not the kind of detached technocratic policymaking that they, and the lawÂ’s other supporters, hoped this law would embody. Does your fix create problems later, cause costs to spiral or people to drop out of the insurance market, or lead to political pressure to expand the fixes in ways that critically undermine the law? Well, thatÂ’s preferable to sudden death right now.

However incoherent these fixes may seem, they send two messages, loud and clear. The first is that although liberal pundits may think that the law is a done deal, impossible to repeal, the administration does not believe that. The willingness to take large risks with the programÂ’s stability indicates that the administration thinks it has a huge amount to lose -- that the White House is in a battle for the programÂ’s very existence, not a few marginal House and Senate seats.

We keep talking about that in the podcast, the obvious observation that Obama is reacting day-by-day, thinking only of the Almighty Newscycle and the next 2-3 days, and not a couple of months or even a couple of weeks ahead.

We're in the very best of hands.

Posted by: Ace at 03:10 PM | Comments (292)
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1 Isn't this law discrimatory at the least.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 20, 2013 03:13 PM (KuZ6A)

2 You also mentioned The West Wing in the podcast. This is an Administration whose life experience is from TV.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2013 03:13 PM (FcR7P)

3 Resisting the temptation...

Posted by: Retread at December 20, 2013 03:13 PM (cHwk5)

4 Oh yeah first in peaches honor.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 20, 2013 03:13 PM (KuZ6A)

5 Definitely not purchasing insurance now. Now there is no penalty plus no preexisting conditions.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 20, 2013 03:13 PM (ztVBF)

6 What happened to Peaches?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 20, 2013 03:15 PM (oFCZn)

7 This is clearly a case of human error, Dave.

Posted by: Obamacare 9000 at December 20, 2013 03:15 PM (YQUIz)

8 Merry effin' Christmas.

Posted by: NCKate at December 20, 2013 03:15 PM (RSQB0)

9 As Ezra Klein points out ******** She lost me. Gone baby, gone.

Posted by: 50 cent at December 20, 2013 03:16 PM (RJMhd)

10 Not to worry. This will all be 'fixed' next year. Right after the holidays.
Everyone is distracted by the holidays.
Just as soon as everyone sobers up from New Year celebrations, our best and brightest experts will get right on it, and fix these minor little problems.

Do Not Worry.

All is Well.


Posted by: Allred Bophet at December 20, 2013 03:16 PM (6YKMh)

11 Nothing happened to peaches she is always so disappointed when she doesn't get first I'm giving it to her.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 20, 2013 03:16 PM (KuZ6A)

12 Why would he only be thinking in terms of the current news cycle? Of the next couple days? He's a second term president. Other than a "legacy", winning news cycles and responding only to the immediate crisis is completely ridiculous. There's no point. We know he doesn't care about those "downstream", so there's no attempt to salvage the Democrat brand. Is he, and his administration, really this stupid and incompetent?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 20, 2013 03:16 PM (GEICT)

13 Are democrats ever not fuck ups?

Posted by: Bean Pies! at December 20, 2013 03:16 PM (Qev5V)

14 Obamacare will not be repealed - period.  Washington has submerged $100 trillion of expenses in trust funds and lock boxes.  That was money that was never accounted for, yet spent.  Can you imagine if that level of profligate spending were to stop?  Obamacare adds several rows to the bottom of the pyramid scheme that is government finance in this country.  Even Repubs recognize this and though they may squeal, they aren't serious about repealing O care. 

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 20, 2013 03:17 PM (BZAd3)

15 Still the smartest guy ever elected President.

Posted by: Michael Beschloss at December 20, 2013 03:17 PM (l3RZ9)

16 It's just getting the fight started. ObamaCare is the pimply-faced scrunt trying to get two fat boys to fight for the right to smell her tuna. That's it in a nutshell. Discuss.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 20, 2013 03:17 PM (6/+vz)

17 Whatevs,do what you have to do,I'm in Hawaii for the next17 days baby! Baraka

Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2013 03:17 PM (zqvg6)

18 No longer a Republic, no longer a Democracy, now an Ad-hocracy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2013 03:17 PM (TKUw7)

19 I also finally broke and went off on my Obama/ Obamacare loving commie boss. I'm tired of her delusions and hypocrisy telling everyone how great this law is while being unaffected herself. She is stopping her stipends for our health insurance and convinced herself we were all going tohave free insurance.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 20, 2013 03:17 PM (ztVBF)

20 "We keep talking about that in the podcast, the obvious observation that Obama is reacting day-by-day, thinking only of the Almighty Newscycle and the next 2-3 days, and not a couple of months or even a couple of weeks ahead."

You normally see that kind of ultra-short-term tactical focus on the news cycle as a deliberate thing, from an incumbent who is running for re-election and cannot think beyond Election Day. But Obama was re-elected just last year.

So his lack of long term focus is instead only an artifact of his being an unskilled and weak executive.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 20, 2013 03:18 PM (gqT4g)

21 did the ACA actually make it illegal to buy or offer a policy that doesn't meet all the demands of the ACA? Suppose I want to keep the policy I have an will pay the penalty/tax? Does the law not allow that?

Maybe someone has an answer to that..?

Posted by: Mallfly at December 20, 2013 03:18 PM (bJm7W)

22 Welcome to the burning times, Healthcare Edition.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 20, 2013 03:18 PM (sQ0LB)

23
The nation is very irritated at me, and even Michelle is so aggravated,  she refuses to blow me while on vacation. 

Posted by: Preznit Bronco Milhous Bama at December 20, 2013 03:19 PM (pJF+c)

24 We're in the very best of hands Fucking Obama mayhem if you ask me

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2013 03:19 PM (HVff2)

25 Will Obamacare be repealed or won't it? Will Congress fund it or won't it? Will the web site be fixed or not? Blah, blah, blah. We the people just need to do what we need to do and Congress be damned. Resist. Refuse. Revolt. EXEMPT OURSELVES! We did not comply with Prohibition and we simply should not comply with Obamacare. For religious reasons. For privacy reasons. For the cause of liberty and freedom and in protest of the idea that the federal government (under one party rule, no less), can force private citizens to purchase anything with our own money. Are we citizens or subjects? Mice or (wo)men? Just say NO to socialism and to the corrupt, unionized, far left IRS: the gestapo of America's political class. After all, the federal government ignores millions of illegals who are breaking U.S. immigration law every day. Our Founders pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor. All we have to do is just say no to a scheme we all know is un-American and a violation of our most basic founding fundamentals of privacy, self reliance, limited government and individual freedom.

Posted by: Devan at December 20, 2013 03:20 PM (DFOjv)

26 Maybe someone has an answer to that..?

Posted by: Mallfly at December 20, 2013 07:18 PM (bJm7W)


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I honestly don't think anyone has any idea what this law does or does not allow.  It's a crapshoot, depending on what time of day it is.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 20, 2013 03:20 PM (P6QsQ)

27 The way things are going, the Dems in Congress will be leading the charge to repeal it.  The shit storm has only just begun.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 20, 2013 03:20 PM (V70Uh)

28

[Ace:] ...."his Kingly Right of Verbal Legislation"

 

Heh.

I love this.

Posted by: wheatie at December 20, 2013 03:21 PM (wIA6U)

29 When do all the Obamas leave on their separate planes? How about giving us a Merry Christmas, Barry? One-way tickets for you and the Missus to Hawaii.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2013 03:21 PM (FcR7P)

30 21 did the ACA actually make it illegal to buy or offer a policy that doesn't meet all the demands of the ACA? Suppose I want to keep the policy I have an will pay the penalty/tax? Does the law not allow that? Maybe someone has an answer to that..? Posted by: Mallfly at December 20, 2013 07:18 PM (bJm7W) ******** Only the Feds can break the law. For example the military insurance program--Tricare does not insure your 26 year old kid. @21 they are done. Sooner if they don't go to college

Posted by: Judge "Tax Dance" Roberts at December 20, 2013 03:21 PM (RJMhd)

31 In other words it's like letting your five year old son run the family budget.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 20, 2013 03:21 PM (oFCZn)

32 Yes. Health care will now be free for all, NWConservative.
And now let me sing you a little song my friends at CGI taught me...
Barack Obama! Yes we can, yeah! Barack Obama! We all come together now! Barack Obama! Ya ya ya!

Posted by: Obamacare 9000 at December 20, 2013 03:22 PM (YQUIz)

33 Why are we criticizing Obamacare still when the real issue is the racists saying Santa Claus is white and a Christian says homosexuality is wrong.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 20, 2013 03:22 PM (pJB7q)

34 And given all that conversation ... why NOT have that fucking "Discussion" about ObamaCare. Just not the discussion he's hoping for.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 20, 2013 03:22 PM (6/+vz)

35 I have two hands on my rocket, so let me go!

Posted by: President Obama at December 20, 2013 03:22 PM (2ArJQ)

36 "Isn't this law discrimatory at the least."

I would have thought that the equal-protection 14th Amendment lawsuits would have written themselves.

Are these being smothered at birth by the present tendency of the federal courts to casually toss out any and all challenges to federal laws on the basis of a supposed lack of standing?

(Which is just SO much bullshit and crying out for a Constitutional amendment to get rid of. If you're a citizen of a country, you should have standing to challenge its laws in its courts, period, full stop, end of.)

Posted by: torquewrench at December 20, 2013 03:22 PM (gqT4g)

37 re 27: nah, they'll borrow Clinton's line "Mend it, don't end it" -- people who believe in Obama and Unicorns will again fall for it, at least until after the next election.

Posted by: Mallfly at December 20, 2013 03:22 PM (bJm7W)

38 Is Harry Reid, suspected pederast, dead yet?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 20, 2013 03:23 PM (80R0X)

39 >>He's a second term president. Other than a "legacy", winning news cycles and responding only to the immediate crisis is completely ridiculous. There's no point. Yea there is, the midterms. If we take the Senate back next November Obama is more than toast. Think Senate investigative committees or joint committees tying the Congress in knots. Any new Obama legislation DOA and the focus put on spending instead of dumb shit like income inequality. Obama sees whats coming and good it ain't.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 03:23 PM (g1DWB)

40 Conservative crank yep the times will be flaming hot when those ER and hospital bills roll in and the LIV's realize that their deductible and oop make them in effect have no insurance. I'm sure everyone has $ 5 to 7 thousand dollars lying around to pay those. Me I shall wallow in their tears and say "told you so".

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 20, 2013 03:23 PM (KuZ6A)

41 edit:actually the insurance program that the military uses is a civilian contractor.

Posted by: Judge "Tax Dance" Roberts at December 20, 2013 03:23 PM (RJMhd)

42 Rawwwrr! Who pooped in your flannels?

Posted by: Pajama Boy at December 20, 2013 03:23 PM (FcR7P)

43 38 Is Harry Reid, suspected pederast, dead yet?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 20, 2013 07:23 PM (80R0X)
He's getting better.

Posted by: Monty Python at December 20, 2013 03:24 PM (VpMO0)

44 If, as Judge Roberts said, to make this Constitutional it must be a Tax... Then this is unequal Taxation... because it is changing who pays, or does not pay, by Admin whim, not by act of Congress.... In fact, this 'rule change' by the Administration changes the 'Appropriations' of said bill, without an Act of Congress.... thus making this an Illegal Action.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 20, 2013 03:24 PM (lZBBB)

45 You say, "Republicans will..."  No, I beg to differ with you, but they won't.  They will do whatever they have to do to go along to get along with the Democrats who oppose them and the LSM that hates them.

Posted by: TimothyJ at December 20, 2013 03:24 PM (ep2io)

46 Yea there is, the midterms. If we take the Senate back next November Obama is more than toast. Horse ... Shit.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 20, 2013 03:24 PM (6/+vz)

47 Yea there is, the midterms. If we take the Senate back next November Obama is more than toast. Think Senate investigative committees or joint committees tying the Congress in knots. Any new Obama legislation DOA and the focus put on spending instead of dumb shit like income inequality. Obama sees whats coming and good it ain't. Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 07:23 PM (g1DWB) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Who the fuck would do all that? Certainly not the GOP.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 20, 2013 03:24 PM (GEICT)

48 All those OFA ads pushing the cultists to have talks about Obamacare with family and friends really hit home with her apparently. Meetings all day yesterday about it.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 20, 2013 03:25 PM (ztVBF)

49 Affirmative Action has consequences.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2013 03:25 PM (5fYIG)

50 Does your fix create problems later, cause costs to spiral or people to drop out of the insurance market, or lead to political pressure to expand the fixes in ways that critically undermine the law? Well, thatÂ’s preferable to sudden death right now.

In their black little hearts, I suspect the Dems want to lose in '14, with the assumption that the Republicans will then get rid of this albatross.  There is no other way for the Dems to get out from under this calamity they've created.  If they lose in '14, they can start right away with the stab-in-the-back meme.  That strategy has been known to work in the past. 

Everything would have been jake, but the troglodytes in the Tea Party screwed it all up, because of tonsils or something.

Posted by: pep at December 20, 2013 03:25 PM (6TB1Z)

51 Destruct sequence 1, code 1-1 A

Posted by: Henry Chao, deputy chief information officer at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services at December 20, 2013 03:26 PM (T0NGe)

52 The individual mandate. Is that, like, related to the New Mexico mandate we were discussing yesterday? (Sips hot chocolate.) Because I'm not gay or anything, but I was JUST INTERESTED.

Posted by: Pajama Boy at December 20, 2013 03:26 PM (2ArJQ)

53 Destruct sequence 2, code 1-1A-2B

Posted by: Marilyn Tavenner, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services at December 20, 2013 03:27 PM (T0NGe)

54 It's that old 9 or 11 or more dimensional chess game.  We aren't smart enough to see the end, I guess.

Posted by: huerfano at December 20, 2013 03:27 PM (bAGA/)

55 42 Rawwwrr! Who pooped in your flannels? Posted by: Pajama Boy at December 20, 2013 07:23 PM (FcR7P) Settle down, Krupp. Here's your hot cocoa. Now go ckuf yourself.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 20, 2013 03:27 PM (oFCZn)

56 51 Destruct sequence 1, code 1-1 A Posted by: Henry Chao

I'm afraid I can't allow that, Dave.

Posted by: Halbama at December 20, 2013 03:28 PM (6TB1Z)

57 Obamacare is the ne plus ultra of government clusterfucks, and that's saying a lot.  Every "fix" creates worse problems than it solved.  A veritable Hydra of ill-conceived, politically-driven legislation.

Just find a pillow, go into its room while it's asleep, and smother the damn monstrosity.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 20, 2013 03:28 PM (8ZskC)

58 Destruct sequence 3, code 1B-2B-3

Posted by: Kathleen Sebelius, Health and Human Services Secretary at December 20, 2013 03:28 PM (T0NGe)

59 I'm pretty sure you cannot destroy ObamaCare you can only hope to contain it.

Posted by: Judge Roberts at December 20, 2013 03:29 PM (RJMhd)

60 Settle down, Krupp. Here's your hot cocoa. Now go ckuf yourself. I asked for sperm chowder!

Posted by: Pajama Boy at December 20, 2013 03:29 PM (FcR7P)

61 I don't understand why they made the subsidy available only if you bought the insurance in the exchange.  It also seems that the formula for calculating the subsidy is way too complicated.

Was it overreach? or reach-around?

BTW, "fertility services" are a required part of an ObamaCare-compliant plan.  Lesbians want children, using the sperm of gay guys and they don't want to have to pay for it.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 20, 2013 03:29 PM (V70Uh)

62 Destruct sequence completed and engaged. Awaiting final code for one-minute countdown

Posted by: Teleprompter Of The United States at December 20, 2013 03:29 PM (T0NGe)

63 speaking of pajama boy, more fun at the People's Cube:   
   
http://tinyurl.com/lzpq8yh

Posted by: Mallfly at December 20, 2013 03:29 PM (bJm7W)

64 This is the leading edge of an inevitable meme - that being the failure of Obamcare isn't a failure of big government progressivism writ large, it is a failure of Obama to properly execute big government progressivism writ small.

McArdle is a self proclaimed libertarian doncha know.

Posted by: ThomasD at December 20, 2013 03:29 PM (FA+FN)

65 OK.... let me try again... Obamacare mandates are a Tax, per the Supreme Court. Obama is changing the Mandates, without the Congress approving those changes... Does ANYONE have standing? Maybe someone who has to pay, while others do not?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 20, 2013 03:29 PM (lZBBB)

66 They are too egotistical to admit that they screwed up big time.  This whole thing could go away like that if they weren't so damned consumed with pride .




Something about going before a fall, something something.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 20, 2013 03:30 PM (P6QsQ)

67

As Ezra Klein points out

 

Put your pencil dick away, Ezra, nobody's interested.

Posted by: wth at December 20, 2013 03:30 PM (wAQA5)

68 It's over when Big Insurance says it's over.  Big I will give Chris Murphy and Dick Blumenthal their marching orders and CT's senators will salute and carry out their mission assignments.

Posted by: mrp at December 20, 2013 03:30 PM (HjPtV)

69 Code zero zero zero. Destruct. Zero.

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett, Captain of the Starship Obamaprise at December 20, 2013 03:30 PM (T0NGe)

70 Just find a pillow, go into its room while it's asleep, and smother the damn monstrosity.

Pillow, industrial shredder, woodchipper, whatever.

Posted by: pep at December 20, 2013 03:30 PM (6TB1Z)

71 21 did the ACA actually make it illegal to buy or offer a policy that doesn't meet all the demands of the ACA? Suppose I want to keep the policy I have an will pay the penalty/tax? Does the law not allow that? Maybe someone has an answer to that..? Posted by: Mallfly at December 20, 2013 07:18 PM (bJm7W) In the event that no one has answered this by the time I type this out.... Yes, the ACA made some policies illegal. They were call 'Suboptimal'. The policy holders didn't have a problem with them, just King Obama. The insurance companies weren't allowed to offer these policies, thus the 'cancellation' notices everyone received. Since that time, Kingly Right of Verbal Legislation has said insurance companies can continue to off 'suboptimal' policies....even though the insurance companies said 'Wha?! We don't have them anymore because of you!' No Kingly Right of Verbal Legislation has said that insurance companies can offer catastrophic plans...even though those too were outlawed. So to sum up, Kingly Right of Verbal Legislation HAS CREATED A FRIGGIN' CLUSTERFUCK!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 20, 2013 03:30 PM (bCEmE)

72 >>Who the fuck would do all that? Certainly not the GOP. Maybe not. But if McConnell had been in charge of the Senate 3 years ago and Boehner the House, you think we'd be talking about Obamacare right now?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 03:31 PM (g1DWB)

73 Any chance that the Duck Dynasty kerfuffle was
a planned scheme (by A&E) to clear the shelves of all the DD merch
in big box stores ???


They'll make up and all's well after New Years ?


3 dimensional chess type of thing . . .

Posted by: McCool at December 20, 2013 03:31 PM (tzv2X)

74 re 67: what about the other Chris on MSNBC, with the purple shirt and pink tie?

Posted by: Mallfly at December 20, 2013 03:31 PM (bJm7W)

75 Didn't Kingly Right open for Prima Nocte during the wedding scene in Braveheart?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 20, 2013 03:31 PM (sQ0LB)

76 Hairy the pederast was released this eve from hospital and said to be suffering from " exhaustion" hahahahahaha.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 20, 2013 03:31 PM (KuZ6A)

77 If, as Judge Roberts said, to make this Constitutional it must be a Tax...

It i tax, just like the Earned Income Tax Credit is  tax -
For the producers it has a (+) in front of it,
For the moochers it has a (-) in front of it.

Except, unlike the EIC, the moochers do not have to even file the 1040 to get it, the insurance companies are the middle man.

Moochers also get 'free' health care, at least as far as routine crap most producers are happy to pay for out of their own pocket like a $5 pack of rubbers, and flu shots, $100 checkups... Moochers with something kinda big will continue to go to the e-room and not give a shit about the $5-10k deductable, just like they do now.

Producers, being responsible will pay for the insurance, and pay for their own deductibles,.. twice...

Meanwhile the Obamacre will suck their life savings out of them

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 20, 2013 03:32 PM (80R0X)

78 Maybe not. But if McConnell had been in charge of the Senate 3 years ago and Boehner the House, you think we'd be talking about Obamacare right now? Eso es verdad.

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett, Captain of the Starship Obamaprise at December 20, 2013 03:32 PM (T0NGe)

79 re 71: thanks, Tami.

Posted by: Mallfly at December 20, 2013 03:32 PM (bJm7W)

80 I'm afraid I can't allow that, Dave.
Posted by: Halbama
That's my schtick, Halbama. Barack Obama! Yeeesss weee cannn-nnnn yeah! Baaaaraaaack Ooooobamaaaa! Weeee all all all all all come come come together now! Baaaaaaaarack Oooooobaaaaaamaaaaa! Yayaya!

Posted by: Obamacare 9000 at December 20, 2013 03:32 PM (YQUIz)

81 76 Hairy the pederast was released this eve from hospital and said to be suffering from " exhaustion" hahahahahaha. I thought "exhaustion" was Hollywood code for "hangover".

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett, Captain of the Starship Obamaprise at December 20, 2013 03:33 PM (T0NGe)

82 Barack... come... come... come....

Posted by: Obamacare 9000 at December 20, 2013 03:33 PM (YQUIz)

83 Yea there is, the midterms. If we take the Senate back next November Obama is more than toast. Think Senate investigative committees or joint committees tying the Congress in knots. Any new Obama legislation DOA and the focus put on spending instead of dumb shit like income inequality. Obama sees whats coming and good it ain't. Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 07:23 PM (g1DWB) The GOP is falling over themselves right now to piss off each and every single person in their base with their goddamned obsession with brown people amnesty, cutting veterans benefits, passing bills neutering the power of conservatives to influence spending whatsoever, actively fighting elected conservative members of Congress while funding their own chambers of commerce and other crony business interest candidates, and not DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THE IRS FASCISM, BENGHAZI, OBAMA'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWMAKING. Yeah, I'm sure giving a reelected Mitch McConnell the majority is going to do something. Like get us blamed for everything when they fuck up things by being like the democrats. At least they are open about it this time.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 20, 2013 03:33 PM (ztVBF)

84 Maybe not. But if McConnell had been in charge of the Senate 3 years ago and Boehner the House, you think we'd be talking about Obamacare right now? Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 07:31 PM (g1DWB) The Pussy and the Weeper? I put no faith in them. None.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 20, 2013 03:33 PM (GEICT)

85 Hairy the pederast was released this eve from hospital and said to be suffering from " exhaustion" hahahahahaha.


I just flew in from Washington while diddling my Filipino houseboy and boy, are my arms tired.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at December 20, 2013 03:33 PM (8ZskC)

86 Hairy the pederast was released this eve from hospital and said to be suffering from " exhaustion" hahahahahaha.

CRAP, I thought a previous post on him getting 'better' was a euphemism

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 20, 2013 03:33 PM (80R0X)

87 I always thought exhaustion was a near mental breakdown.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 20, 2013 03:35 PM (KuZ6A)

88 Just a moment.  Just a moment.

I've just picked up a fault in the 404care data transfer unit. It's going to go 100% failure in 72 hours.

Posted by: Hal at December 20, 2013 03:35 PM (8ZskC)

89 Mallfly, my understanding is that the old plans no longer exist. You have the ACA compliant plans with different levels of deductibles, co-pay/no co-pay, etc.
I am insured through Blue Choice in SC. They only offer ACA compliant plans. Bronze, Silver and Gold. No catastrophic at all.

Not sure where these folks that had their insurance cancelled are going to find their same plans. They don't exist anymore.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at December 20, 2013 03:35 PM (Qp3K5)

90 Settle down, Krupp.

Here's your hot cocoa. Now go ckuf yourself.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 20, 2013 07:27 PM (oFCZn)


Long ago, at Ellis Island:  "You there, what is your name?" "Krap, sir, Johannes Krap." "Well, we will put it down as Krupp. Here in America, some people would make nasty jokes about you if you were to keep your name as Krap." "Vell, sir as you wish. Krupp it is."  (mutters to self under breath, "but I am still Krap, und all my descendants vill be Krap, too")

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2013 03:35 PM (TKUw7)

91 87 I always thought exhaustion was a near mental breakdown. Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 20, 2013 07:35 PM (KuZ6A) ******** I thought it meant--rehab.

Posted by: Lindsey Lohan at December 20, 2013 03:37 PM (RJMhd)

92 If only the Founders had established some sort of entity of people who spoke for the citizens that could write these teaks so the president wouldn't have to.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 20, 2013 03:37 PM (eHIJJ)

93 speaking of pajama boy, more fun at the People's Cube: http://tinyurl.com/lzpq8yh Love the one of him in the control room during the Bin Laden takedown.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2013 03:38 PM (FcR7P)

94
Wait....so it is just a tax after all?

Posted by: Dread Butt Pirate John Roberts at December 20, 2013 03:38 PM (MaP11)

95 >>The Pussy and the Weeper? I put no faith in them. None. Fair enough. Neither is going into the books as a leader of note. But that wasn't what I was asking. Not a single Republican voted for Obamacare in either House. Not one. And neither Boehner or McConnell could have changed that which they didn't. It never would have even gotten to the floor in either House. It does matter who is in charge of both the House and the Senate if even they aren't the boldest and best.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 03:38 PM (g1DWB)

96 Nah he was out too quick for it to be rehab, now a big shot of Ativan in the ER would take care of that exhaustion.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 20, 2013 03:39 PM (KuZ6A)

97 Hairy the pederast was released this eve from hospital and said to be suffering from "exhaustion" hahahahahaha.
Maybe Harry decided to take Chris Hayes' advice to Jindal and Robertson?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 20, 2013 03:39 PM (YQUIz)

98 Wait....so it is just a tax after all?

--------------------




Well, you pay a lot of money and you don't get anything in return, so yeah.  It's a tax.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 20, 2013 03:39 PM (P6QsQ)

99 Andycanuck, Rofl

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 20, 2013 03:40 PM (KuZ6A)

100 tweaks not teaks @92

Oh, and they opened for Was (Not Was) at the Trocadero in Philly back in '04.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 20, 2013 03:40 PM (eHIJJ)

101 Exhaustion is code for psychotic break, isn't it?

Posted by: grammie winger at December 20, 2013 03:40 PM (P6QsQ)

102 This is what flailing looks like.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 20, 2013 03:40 PM (QupBk)

103 My investment advice for next year?  Sell on civility, now.  Go long on pitchforks and torches.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 20, 2013 03:43 PM (sQ0LB)

104 Rofl Posted by: Fourth Horseman
That's not what Harry Reid said!

Posted by: michael scott at December 20, 2013 03:43 PM (YQUIz)

105 "Yeah, I'm sure giving a reelected Mitch McConnell the majority is going to do something."

It certainly will do *something*.

There won't be a crick up a holler anywhere in the state of Kentucky that won't have a shiny new billion dollar federal dam plopped on top of it.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 20, 2013 03:43 PM (gqT4g)

106 We could sell Barky's brain as "like new, never been used".

Posted by: Killerdog at December 20, 2013 03:44 PM (Oi60j)

107 Oh and you're a healthcare expert now, Grandma? 
( smirk )

Posted by: PajamaBoy [/i] [/b] at December 20, 2013 03:44 PM (H4Rpo)

108 Maybe not. But if McConnell had been in charge of the Senate 3 years ago and Boehner the House, you think we'd be talking about Obamacare right now? Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 07:31 PM (g1DWB) Yep because you would have had republicans working with Obama on Obamacare. And it would have passed because the Republicans ALWAYS cave in the end since they have no principles and they are not conservative. Obamacare still would have been a clusterfuck and we would have both parties names smeared all over it. We probably would have had amnesty by now. And pelosi would be speaker of the house with no redistricting favoring the republicans because there would be no 2010.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 20, 2013 03:44 PM (ztVBF)

109 103 I designed it as a pair of pants, but what the hell. Winning! Posted by: Yoko Ono, true creator of the ACA at December 20, 2013 07:41 PM (NVvNk) ********* Oh my frickin' gawd--that link! That's what Lady GaGa sounds like when she's with her motorized winko toy!

Posted by: Lindsey Lohan at December 20, 2013 03:44 PM (RJMhd)

110 Ah whatevs. I just found an extra $200 in the year end budget. I mean, I just found about 500 rounds of ammo.

Posted by: traye at December 20, 2013 03:45 PM (7dEjs)

111 95 It does matter who is in charge of both the House and the Senate if even they aren't the boldest and best. Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 07:38 PM (g1DWB) Well we can take both houses next year & not a fucking thing will change

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2013 03:45 PM (HVff2)

112 I just spent 3 hours going through 10 years of my medical receipts to try to answer honestly the underwriting questions for a new health insurance policy. I liked my old policy, but.....he lied. My best option for 2014 is not a exchange/metal plan. The best premium is for an underwritten plan and therefore my need to re-account for me and the kids dr. visits and procedures for the past 10 years.

Posted by: california red at December 20, 2013 03:46 PM (L39bP)

113 Romeo13: "In fact, this 'rule change' by the Administration changes the 'Appropriations' of said bill, without an Act of Congress.... thus making this an Illegal Action."

If we were still a lawful nation, you'd be right.

And on this in the most particular, every branch is utterly corrupt and lawless.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 20, 2013 03:48 PM (eHIJJ)

114 Obama + Obamacare is matter + anti-matter. Stand back libtards because there will be fecal objects and other unseemly yukky stuff on your face tout suite.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at December 20, 2013 03:50 PM (hpgw1)

115 What I want to know is, who will be the first to file suit on this?  With this newest piece "executive lawmaking" you now have a BLATANT equal protection violation, and any number of citizens with perfectly cognizable standing to make the claim.  Where are the conservative public interest lawyers to take this case?

Posted by: Jeff B. at December 20, 2013 03:50 PM (hDIEK)

116 Stand back libtards because there will be fecal objects and other unseemly yukky stuff on your face tout suite. Posted by: Angel with a sword at December 20, 2013 07:50 PM (hpgw1) Oh yeah!!!!

Posted by: Martin Bashir at December 20, 2013 03:51 PM (oFCZn)

117 BLATANT equal protection violation, and any number of citizens with perfectly cognizable standing to make the claim

Were we not post-Constitutional, that might actually fly

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 20, 2013 03:52 PM (70Unk)

118 We keep talking about that in the podcast, the obvious observation that Obama is reacting day-by-day, thinking only of the Almighty Newscycle and the next 2-3 days, and not a couple of months or even a couple of weeks ahead.

Next, I'll dance and make shadow puppets with my hands.  Here's a dog.  Ruff, ruff ruff. 

Posted by: Barry, knee deep in the stank of flop sweat at December 20, 2013 03:53 PM (6TB1Z)

119 Who wants to smell my finger?

Posted by: Chris Hayes at December 20, 2013 03:53 PM (TKFmG)

120 >>>This is the leading edge of an inevitable meme - that being the failure of Obamcare isn't a failure of big government progressivism writ large, it is a failure of Obama to properly execute big government progressivism writ small.

If you're trying to suggest that McArdle is attempting to subtlely push this meme, you're fucking bonkers and you haven't read any of her work on a regular basis. She's not a shouter -- this is to her credit -- but she's written constantly about the inability of the federal goverment to do "big gov" stuff and the inappropriateness of them attempting to do so. 

Besides, if people on the Left really think they can make this about "oh, big government works, it's just Obama that sucks at it!" then good fuckin' luck to them.  That'll be about as successful as "communism works, it's just never been tried the right way!"  Sure, some folks will say that, but how many in the nation overall are convinced?

Posted by: Jeff B. at December 20, 2013 03:54 PM (hDIEK)

121 Did I correctly hear Obama say today that he would "..have even better ideas after vacation."? "Better"? I continue to try to cope with the fact that this man is President of the United States.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 20, 2013 03:54 PM (aDwsi)

122 Is Chris Hayes related to Pajama Boy, because they sure do look similar?

Posted by: pep at December 20, 2013 03:54 PM (6TB1Z)

123 >>Where are the conservative public interest lawyers to take this case? Judicial Watch has already sued them over delaying the employer mandate in October. Wouldn't surprise me to see them jump on this as well.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 03:55 PM (g1DWB)

124 But that wasn't what I was asking. Not a single Republican voted for Obamacare in either House. Not one. And neither Boehner or McConnell could have changed that which they didn't. It never would have even gotten to the floor in either House. It does matter who is in charge of both the House and the Senate if even they aren't the boldest and best. Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 07:38 PM (g1DWB) They were all bitching back in 2010 that they weren't included in the negociations. That's all they want when they get there. To feel important and screw everybody else, see Marco Rubio.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 20, 2013 03:55 PM (ztVBF)

125 That'll be about as successful as "communism works, it's just never been tried the right way!" Sure, some folks will say that, but how many in the nation overall are convinced?

At last count, at least 52%.

Posted by: pep at December 20, 2013 03:55 PM (6TB1Z)

126 >>>Yep because you would have had republicans working with Obama on Obamacare. And it would have passed because the Republicans ALWAYS cave in the end since they have no principles and they are not conservative. Obamacare still would have been a clusterfuck and we would have both parties names smeared all over it. We probably would have had amnesty by now. And pelosi would be speaker of the house with no redistricting favoring the republicans because there would be no 2010.

This is silliness.

Posted by: Jeff B. at December 20, 2013 03:55 PM (hDIEK)

127 38 Is Harry Reid, suspected pederast, dead yet?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 20, 2013 07:23 PM (80R0X)


Unfortunately no, he is not dead.  He does look like he belongs in a wax museum though.

Posted by: Killerdog at December 20, 2013 03:56 PM (Oi60j)

128 With the 'costs of repeal' memo and the abort of the mandate for cancelled policies, I've been starting to smell collapse, too. Call me optimistic, but optimism's completely against my nature. Watch for some new narrative attempt by the Dems after the holidays, but when that snuffs, we're moving into the final stage of grief-- hari kari.

Posted by: --- at December 20, 2013 03:56 PM (MMC8r)

129 West Wing cosplay.


Really really really sucky West Wing cosplay.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at December 20, 2013 03:56 PM (Gk3SS)

130 There are several outcomes to all this: One, is that when the Employer Mandate kicks in, there will be an epic uprising of negative public opinion, like nothing else in this country's history. Two, Barack and his cronies will fiddle with this thing in all kinds of discretionary ways that are frankly not within the scope of their lawful duties Three, because of (two) above, it will become irrelevant who has a majority in the House and Senate, because they are now neutered by the most lawless President that has ever held office. Not only is it the end of the Republic, it is the end of any kind of meaningful voting. We are well on the way to not even being citizens anymore. Subjects. There is a remedy for this at hand, but it is not to be discussed here or anywhere on a blog on the Internet.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 20, 2013 03:56 PM (dCwZe)

131 I've been starting to smell collapse, too. It smells like burning.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 20, 2013 03:56 PM (QupBk)

132 Did I correctly hear Obama say today that he would "..have even better ideas after vacation."? Jesus. His whole life has been a vacation.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2013 03:57 PM (FcR7P)

133 Watch for some new narrative attempt by the Dems after the holidays, but when that snuffs, we're moving into the final stage of grief-- hari kari.

You dream. Hara kiri implies taking responsibility for one's failures.  Libs don't do that, ever. 

Posted by: pep at December 20, 2013 03:58 PM (6TB1Z)

134 Posted by: Jeff B. at December 20, 2013 07:54 PM (hDIEK) So, do you still think that they are not going to pass amnesty?

Posted by: NWConservative at December 20, 2013 03:58 PM (ztVBF)

135 Is Harry Reid, suspected pederast, dead yet?

He's starting to get the Lautenberg look.

Posted by: QUACK BACK at December 20, 2013 03:58 PM (Cs2tJ)

136 I don't know about you folks, but I'm gearing up for a delightful political shitstorm of a January.  No really, I'll leave this comments section for good (I'm 90% out the door anyway, if you hadn't noticed) if Obamacare doesn't break bad in a major way come the new year.  That is, even worse than it's already done broke.

Posted by: Jeff B. at December 20, 2013 03:58 PM (hDIEK)

137 It is very hard to determine whether they are truly epically incompetent, or intentionally running a buffoon routine to cover intentional malice.

Posted by: simplemind at December 20, 2013 03:59 PM (hTeQK)

138 63 speaking of pajama boy, more fun at the People's Cube: http://tinyurl.com/lzpq8yh Posted by: Mallfly at December 20, 2013 07:29 PM (bJm7W) That is some great stuff there. Check out Joe Biden as Pajama Boy (scroll way down).

Posted by: rickl at December 20, 2013 03:59 PM (sdi6R)

139 126 That'll be about as successful as "communism works, it's just never been
tried the right way!" Sure, some folks will say that, but how many in
the nation overall are convinced?

At last count, at least 52%.

Posted by: pep at December 20, 2013 07:55 PM (6TB1Z)

 

I'm calling bullsh*t.  Obama would never have been elected if the Dems or media (birm) had actually described him as a socialist or communist.  A lot of his voters were convinced that it would absolve them of white guilt, or they just hate the Repubs because they're anti-gay or anti-abortion or whichever other single issue they care about.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 20, 2013 03:59 PM (sQ0LB)

140

B.O.care must commit seppuku to save face. It's really stinking up the dojo.

Posted by: Sumo PajamaBoy at December 20, 2013 04:01 PM (wAQA5)

141 137 I don't know about you folks, but I'm gearing up for a delightful political shitstorm of a January. No really, I'll leave this comments section for good (I'm 90% out the door anyway, if you hadn't noticed) if Obamacare doesn't break bad in a major way come the new year. That is, even worse than it's already done broke. Posted by: Jeff B. at December 20, 2013 07:58 PM (hDIEK) I agree with you that this is going to break bad. Its just going to reward the wrong people.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 20, 2013 04:02 PM (ztVBF)

142 A lot of his voters were convinced that it would absolve them of white guilt

A reasonable position.  However, I divide his voters into two camps, the FSA, and those who preen about taking care of the FSA, but without actually providing the cash themselves.  That's why you heard so many anguished cries from libs who were shocked to find that it wasn't those other guys paying for this stuff, it was them.  Either way, I'll count that as a socialist.

Posted by: pep at December 20, 2013 04:02 PM (6TB1Z)

143

This is a pretty good article on todays Zerocare fail.

http://tinyurl.com/l72gmpn

Posted by: maddogg at December 20, 2013 04:04 PM (yc0vz)

144 >>>So, do you still think that they are not going to pass amnesty?

Nope.  They may pass some eyewash bullshit that isn't amnesty (no 'path to citizenship' or 'path to permanent residency', those are my keys), but nothing more.  And I doubt they'll even do that.  There's just no way: look, did you notice how the House GOP basically was willing to commit public suicide over the shutdown, simply because of outside pressure?  Now imagine that times FIFTY, because not only will you have the hardcore conservative group types freaking out (along with the part of the base they represent), you'll have more RINO-ish types like me also pitching a fit. 

Boehner and Ryan keep making pleasant-sounding noises about 'immigration reform' for one reason only: not to further alienate Latino voters (because guess what, they do matter and we don't want to lose them by an even greater margin than 2012).  But no bill will ever be brought to the floor, because it would be the end of the GOP majority in the House and they well know it.  They can read polls.  And despite the darkest conspiracy-theory fears of some, Congressmen are not simply going to torpedo their own political careers permanently because "shadowy business interests" told them to.  They were willing to go for the shutdown because they knew, in the end, that it's what their voters WANTED.  They're not going to do this because it's clear as crystal that their voters DON'T want it.

Posted by: Jeff B. at December 20, 2013 04:04 PM (hDIEK)

145 Posted by: Jeff B. at December 20, 2013 08:04 PM (hDIEK) I hope your right. I have called my congressman twice in the last month and they have been positively cryptic.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 20, 2013 04:07 PM (ztVBF)

146 The sad truth is we could all be sitting here a year later saying: 1. Shit! ObamaCare is still law! 2. My dick hurts! Progress.

Posted by: Caliban at December 20, 2013 04:07 PM (2ArJQ)

147 >>>It is very hard to determine whether they are truly epically incompetent, or intentionally running a buffoon routine to cover intentional malice.

Never attribute to malice what is more easily explained by stupidity.

These guys just don't have any fucking idea what they're doing.  I know it's hard for you to fully buy because you're thinking "for fuck's sake, *I* knew this would be a failure long ago! How could they have not?"  Well, let's put it this way: a lot of smart people on the Left would have said (and did say!) exactly the same thing about Iraq and "nation-building" back in 2003-2006, and where were we back then?  In the same sort of foxhole the Dems are in right now.  Although at least we didn't destroy the United States healthcare system.

Posted by: Jeff B. at December 20, 2013 04:08 PM (hDIEK)

148 Maybe we should let Nordberg take care of this.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 20, 2013 04:08 PM (6/+vz)

149 >>They were all bitching back in 2010 that they weren't included in the negociations. That's all they want when they get there. To feel important and screw everybody else, see Marco Rubio. They said a hell of a lot more than that. The negotiations thing was what they said when they were asked by the Dems enablers in the msm why they weren't in favor of helping poor unfortunates and voting against the bill. And did you ever wonder why Rubio even got any traction to work on a comprehensive immigration bill and while it didn't happen in the House? Harry Reid runs the Senate and Boehner the House. If McConnell, as bad as he sucks, was in charge of the Senate it never would have gotten any oxygen. Whoever runs the House or the Senate controls the agenda. It matters.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 04:08 PM (g1DWB)

150 Thanks Mallfly for the link, never seen the Prople's Cube, pretty funny. I liked this one... An international incident was touched off yesterday in Johannesburg, South Africa, when a goodwill appearance by President Obama was interrupted by an impromptu funeral. Mr. Obama was generously posing for souvenir pictures of himself with fawning admirers at the FNB Stadium, when security people rolled in Nelson Mandela's casket and demanded to have a memorial service. When questioned as to why they were disrupting Mr. Obama's appearance, the security men offered no explanation aside from "we reserved the stadium last week for this."

Posted by: Mrs. Reid at December 20, 2013 04:10 PM (eBupg)

151 They're not going to do this because it's clear as crystal that their voters DON'T want it.

Then why hire McCain's amnesty-pushing advisor?

Posted by: pep at December 20, 2013 04:11 PM (6TB1Z)

152 King Douchebag:

"The Senate on Thursday approved the first budget deal in years that didnÂ’t threaten to keep lawmakers working into Christmas week, leaving Obama, his family and a coterie of close friends free to depart for a 17-day trip to Hawaii as scheduled Friday evening.

The vacation will cost taxpayers an estimated $4 million and fill the sleepy town of Kailua and its miles of beautiful beaches with street barricades and security personnel protecting the ObamasÂ’ rented vacation home."

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 20, 2013 04:11 PM (H4Rpo)

153 Duck Dynasty vs. PJ boy The best Photoshop of the day: http://tpc.pc2.netdna-cdn.com/peoples_resource/image/28105-draw-him-in.jpg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 20, 2013 04:11 PM (aDwsi)

154 My brother is self-employed and makes a reasonably good living. He's a 50-something like me, so he needs to keep his health insurance. He had a BCBS policy, which he was happy with, that cost $400 per month. It got cancelled. He can keep his premium at $400 a month and receive catastrophic coverage with a $12,000 deductible. Or he can buy a policy that provides coverage nearly as good as he used to get for $400 per month--for $900 per month. He's the person the media won't tell you about. A hard-working, responsible person who's absolutely getting fucked. Fucked. I asked him what he was going to do. He said, "This isn't a hard choice, because this is no choice. I'm going without insurance."

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 20, 2013 04:11 PM (JQuNB)

155 The below took me about 30 seconds to find on Bing: "The head of the biggest U.S. business group, a traditional ally of Republicans, said on Thursday that he remains confident that the top Republican in Congress will push to enact comprehensive immigration reform. U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Thomas Donohue said he is not worried about House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner’s refusal to negotiate with the Senate on its sweeping bipartisan bill. Donohue said he supports Boehner’s decision to instead take a step-by-step approach with smaller measures to fix the nation’s broken immigration system. “I believe it will get done,” Donohue said at a news conference attended by business, religious and law enforcement leaders, all of whom echoed his determination and optimism. A landmark bill to bolster border security, help business get needed workers and provide an earned pathway to U.S. citizenship for up to 11 million undocumented immigrants won Senate approval in June." Shadowy business groups, indeed. No one is really sure what this "U.S. Chamber of Commerce" really is, or whether they are some creation of paranoid and delusional right - wing neo-Nazi Tea Pary Rethuglican grass roots imbeciles. Like people here. But thus far, the House has passed only a handful of limited bills, most dealing with enforcement and none providing a pathway to U.S. citizenship. Donohue promised to help Boehner get the votes to pass a series of bills to provide comprehensive reform, including a pathway to citizenship

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 20, 2013 04:12 PM (dCwZe)

156 King Douchebag:

At first I thought you were referring to Peter King(NY)

Posted by: QUACK BACK at December 20, 2013 04:12 PM (Cs2tJ)

157 I think if some sane Democrat in the House proposed a bill to repeal Obamacare now, they might all just jump at the chance and do it.

Posted by: whoever at December 20, 2013 04:12 PM (zu9Ee)

158 Well you know Harry had a "mild" stroke in 2005.  That's probably why he appears so spry.

Posted by: wth at December 20, 2013 04:12 PM (wAQA5)

159

Good Lord. Da Zero and his daughters watch Duck Dynasty.

http://tinyurl.com/n29hsra

Posted by: maddogg at December 20, 2013 04:14 PM (yc0vz)

160 Good Lord. Da Zero and his daughters watch Duck Dynasty.

Yeah, and I watch BET and subscribe to Ebony.

Posted by: QUACK BACK at December 20, 2013 04:15 PM (Cs2tJ)

161 131 There are several outcomes to all this: One, is that when the Employer Mandate kicks in, there will be an epic uprising of negative public opinion, like nothing else in this country's history. Two, Barack and his cronies will fiddle with this thing in all kinds of discretionary ways that are frankly not within the scope of their lawful duties Three, because of (two) above, it will become irrelevant who has a majority in the House and Senate, because they are now neutered by the most lawless President that has ever held office. Not only is it the end of the Republic, it is the end of any kind of meaningful voting. We are well on the way to not even being citizens anymore. Subjects. There is a remedy for this at hand, but it is not to be discussed here or anywhere on a blog on the Internet. Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 20, 2013 07:56 PM (dCwZe) ******** It's going to be the Nero option.

Posted by: Lindsey Lohan at December 20, 2013 04:18 PM (RJMhd)

162 McConnell was more interesteted in getting home in time for Christmas than doing everything in his power to resist Obamacare. Is that the McConnell the GOP is looking to for leadership in this hypothetical 2014 Senate? Yeah, I thought so.

Posted by: Krypt0nite at December 20, 2013 04:18 PM (lFqbd)

163 151 Thanks Mallfly for the link, never seen the Prople's Cube, pretty funny. Posted by: Mrs. Reid at December 20, 2013 08:10 PM (eBupg) The People's Cube is one of the best humor sites on the internet. Its founder, Oleg Atbashian, who goes by the name Comrade Red Square on the website, was born in the USSR and in his youth was a graphic artist who designed Soviet propaganda posters. Today he is not a fan of Communism. He now lives in NYC, and uses his considerable artistic talent to ruthlessly mock Leftists.

Posted by: rickl at December 20, 2013 04:19 PM (sdi6R)

164 Isn't that sweet,they made sure to finish up so the douche could go on yet another vacation.

Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2013 04:20 PM (zqvg6)

165 King Douchebag:

At first I thought you were referring to Peter King(NY)

Posted by: QUACK BACK

Him too. He's a piece of shit.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 20, 2013 04:21 PM (H4Rpo)

166 Punxsutawney Phil says, "Six more weeks of Obamacare"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 20, 2013 04:23 PM (XtZUg)

167 Never bet on the White Guy.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 20, 2013 04:24 PM (6/+vz)

168 "One, is that when the Employer Mandate kicks in, there will be an epic uprising of negative public opinion, like nothing else in this country's history."

How soon they forget.

Posted by: Prohibition at December 20, 2013 04:25 PM (LxcRK)

169 On what fuckin' planet did you jackwagons THINK that I would take scarce income from my Dad's Med-Supp, or Rent or Trips to Jiffy-Lube to sign up for your BULLSHIT! I don't have TIME to get giggy Sandra! Juggling (and FAILING, let's be honest) all of this, Birth Control is like 976 down on my list of give a shit. I'd like to say that I've become celibate for religious reasons but no... That's not it. I have neither the TIME nor MONEY to hang out w/ guys who would like to sehks me. I genuinely do miss it. But NOOOOO! I've got to spend the rest of my LIFE as some sort of FEUDAL SLAVE so that brilliant Georgetown bitches like Sandra Fluke can get unlimited ABORTIONS after they fuck up (which they will)their birth control?

Posted by: Deety at December 20, 2013 04:25 PM (ad4e8)

170 Is This Some Kind of Bust ? Yes ... it's very impressive.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 20, 2013 04:26 PM (6/+vz)

171 18 No longer a Republic, no longer a Democracy, now an Ad-hocracy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2013 07:17 PM (TKUw7)



Most of us utilize the term "Idiocracy", of which I think Ad-Hocracy is a sub group. 




Posted by: D-Lamp at December 20, 2013 04:28 PM (XnALK)

172 And did you ever wonder why Rubio even got any traction to work on a comprehensive immigration bill and while it didn't happen in the House? Harry Reid runs the Senate and Boehner the House. If McConnell, as bad as he sucks, was in charge of the Senate it never would have gotten any oxygen. Whoever runs the House or the Senate controls the agenda. It matters. Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 08:08 PM (g1DWB) Wait, are you kidding me??? The same Mitch McConnell who voted AYE for amnesty in 1986 and AGAIN 20 years later in 2006? This is the guy who would stop the comprehensive pos that Rubio pushed? What are you smoking? The only reason he wasn't for it this time is that he is vulnerable and has a primary opponent.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 20, 2013 04:28 PM (50Ig8)

173

Completely O/T

 

"Mac and Me" the movie that Paul Rudd keeps using as his movie clip (ET ripoff) is on THIS!TV right now. 

Posted by: rd at December 20, 2013 04:30 PM (D+lxs)

174 23
The nation is very irritated at me, and even Michelle is so aggravated, she refuses to blow me while on vacation.

Posted by: Preznit Bronco Milhous Bama at December 20, 2013 07:19 PM (pJF+c)


Or any other time.   Ever.  But boy is she a fiend with that strapon!

Posted by: Barky Odumbass at December 20, 2013 04:31 PM (XnALK)

175 Yes ... He Did What ... How Many Animals Escaped ? Well ... isn't that the fault of the voters ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 20, 2013 04:31 PM (6/+vz)

176 25 Will Obamacare be repealed or won't it? Will Congress fund it or won't it? Will the web site be fixed or not? Blah, blah, blah. We the people just need to do what we need to do and Congress be damned. Resist. Refuse. Revolt. EXEMPT OURSELVES! We did not comply with Prohibition and we simply should not comply with Obamacare. For religious reasons. For privacy reasons. For the cause of liberty and freedom and in protest of the idea that the federal government (under one party rule, no less), can force private citizens to purchase anything with our own money. Are we citizens or subjects? Mice or (wo)men? Just say NO to socialism and to the corrupt, unionized, far left IRS: the gestapo of America's political class. After all, the federal government ignores millions of illegals who are breaking U.S. immigration law every day. Our Founders pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor. All we have to do is just say no to a scheme we all know is un-American and a violation of our most basic founding fundamentals of privacy, self reliance, limited government and individual freedom.

Posted by: Devan at December 20, 2013 07:20 PM (DFOjv)



This.

Posted by: Barky Odumbass at December 20, 2013 04:32 PM (XnALK)

177 Everyone holds their breath around Obama hoping their health plan doesn't get sent to the cornfield.

Posted by: Madamex at December 20, 2013 04:32 PM (yG4eh)

178
(Which is just SO much bullshit and crying out for a Constitutional amendment to get rid of. If you're a citizen of a country, you should have standing to challenge its laws in its courts, period, full stop, end of.)

Posted by: torquewrench at December 20, 2013 07:22 PM (gqT4g)


Preach it brother!

Posted by: Barky Odumbass at December 20, 2013 04:33 PM (XnALK)

179 West Wing cosplay.


Really really really sucky West Wing cosplay.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at December 20, 2013 07:56 PM (Gk3SS)



Who gets to play Ainsley Hayes?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 20, 2013 04:34 PM (lr3d7)

180 If there's ever been a time that called for non-violent non-cooperation, this is the time. All we have to do is organize a massive refusal to pay taxes. That's it. It's all the bastards will pay attention to. How do we do that?

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 20, 2013 04:35 PM (JQuNB)

181 >>Wait, are you kidding me??? The same Mitch McConnell who voted AYE for amnesty in 1986 and AGAIN 20 years later in 2006? This is the guy who would stop the comprehensive pos that Rubio pushed? What are you smoking? The only reason he wasn't for it this time is that he is vulnerable and has a primary opponent. Ronald Reagan was president in 1986. George Bush in 2006. Senate presidents due the bidding of their president and vice versa. This can't be new to you. Politicians change their positions based on a lot of things, including who is president and the prevailing political winds. There is no appetite in the Republican base for amnesty. If there were, it would have happened already. Just like gun control, it hasn't.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 04:35 PM (g1DWB)

182 West Wing cosplay. Really really really sucky West Wing cosplay. Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at December 20, 2013 07:56 PM (Gk3SS) Throw in some extra hawt gingers and it will all be good.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 20, 2013 04:36 PM (yz6yg)

183 If you're trying to suggest that McArdle is attempting to subtlely push this meme, you're fucking bonkers and you haven't read any of her work on a regular basis. She's not a shouter

Posted by: Jeff B. at December 20, 2013 07:54 PM (hDIEK)



I've always figured that she was more a moaner and squealer.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 20, 2013 04:36 PM (lr3d7)

184 Do you gamble Lieutenant ? Every time I order out.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 20, 2013 04:36 PM (6/+vz)

185 My feet smell fresher than this thread.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 20, 2013 04:37 PM (oFCZn)

186 Who gets to play Ainsley Hayes?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 20, 2013 08:34 PM (lr3d7)



Janet Reno.  

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at December 20, 2013 04:37 PM (Gk3SS)

187 Honest to Pete, how fuckin' CONFUSING is it for these GENIUSES to fill a simple, cheap, prescription? Now, they let you do it when you are shopping at the same store for groceries for fuck's sake! Like, HOW HARD IS THIS! Jeebus! It's not like you are trying to ship Canadian versions of "The Sponge"!

Posted by: Deety at December 20, 2013 04:38 PM (ad4e8)

188
Pillow, industrial shredder, woodchipper, whatever.

Posted by: pep at December 20, 2013 07:30 PM (6TB1Z)



I favor a baseball bat with spikes and a long series of non fatal blows.  I want to hear this law screaming and begging for mercy before it gets the coup de gras

And that still won't be satisfactory.  

Posted by: Barky Odumbass at December 20, 2013 04:39 PM (XnALK)

189 A large number of us here had Jugears' pegged from the Get Go, - back to the lead up to the '08 election. However, speaking for myself, the rank level of tyrant impulse, and the COMPLETE lack of anything resembling a work ethic is still surprising me daily. Â…..the lying noÂ…. Â…..the incompetence noÂ….. But the Tin Horn Banana Republic persona is over the top.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 20, 2013 04:40 PM (GzYiN)

190 170 On what fuckin' planet did you jackwagons THINK that I would take scarce income from my Dad's Med-Supp, or Rent or Trips to Jiffy-Lube to sign up for your BULLSHIT! I don't have TIME to get giggy Sandra! Juggling (and FAILING, let's be honest) all of this, Birth Control is like 976 down on my list of give a shit. I'd like to say that I've become celibate for religious reasons but no... That's not it. I have neither the TIME nor MONEY to hang out w/ guys who would like to FC. I genuinely do miss it. But NOOOOO! I've got to spend the rest of my LIFE as some sort of FEUDAL SLAVE so that brilliant Georgetown bitches like Sandra Fluke can get unlimited ABORTIONS after they fuck up (which they will)their birth control? Posted by: Deety at December 20, 2013 08:25 PM (ad4e Whoa. I love your passion. Kinda got me excited a little. Does "sehks me" mean what I think it means?

Posted by: Guido - Fa La Fucking La - Merry Christmas. at December 20, 2013 04:41 PM (yICtd)

191 Serious question for y'all. In the movie "Mother, Jugs and Speed", which role did Raquel Welch play? I'm thinking the first two.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 20, 2013 04:41 PM (4SpT3)

192 Is the opposite of non-violent non-cooperation violent cooperation?

And your feet aren't registered Republicans, I'm guessing, Dack.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 20, 2013 04:41 PM (YQUIz)

193 "Civil disobedience becomes a sacred duty when the state has become lawless or corrupt. And a citizen who barters with such a state shares in its corruption and lawlessness...There is only one sovereign remedy, namely, non-violent non-cooperation." - Mohandas Gandhi Choke on it, lefties.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 20, 2013 04:42 PM (JQuNB)

194 Deety might have a real ragestroke by the time this is over.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 20, 2013 04:42 PM (sQ0LB)

195 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 20, 2013 08:41 PM (4SpT3) Jugs. Bill Cosby was "mother"

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 20, 2013 04:42 PM (yz6yg)

196 Bill Cosby was "Mother" Tucker.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 20, 2013 04:43 PM (oFCZn)

197 Jugs. Bill Cosby was "mother" Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 20, 2013 08:42 PM (yz6yg) *** Jugs? That seems counterintuitive.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 20, 2013 04:44 PM (4SpT3)

198 Who would want to kill you Frank ? Before tonite ? Only the cable company.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 20, 2013 04:46 PM (6/+vz)

199 “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.” – Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356 Stuff Jefferson really did say. I do not denounce myself.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 20, 2013 04:47 PM (JQuNB)

200 I tend to agree with Jeff B on the amnesty thing.  My guess is they are trying to figure a way to placate the Hispanic and Business communities so as to not lose votes/not lose donations, while not going the "path to legalization" route, thereby losing the next election.

I'd bet they are telling the money guys "after the 2014 election we'll push something".  The way they handled the budget was a big tell, they don't want anything to be in the headlines, other than Obamacare, for the next 10 months.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 20, 2013 04:48 PM (LxcRK)

201 Thanks for the background rickl. That site is way funny. Now off damn sock!

Posted by: The Farmer at December 20, 2013 04:48 PM (eBupg)

202
I asked him what he was going to do. He said, "This isn't a hard choice, because this is no choice. I'm going without insurance."

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 20, 2013 08:11 PM (JQuNB)


And this is what I expect many people to do.  On the good side, this might move the medical care giving system back towards the direction of market forces instead of the financial excesses attributable to the widespread misuse of "Insurance."

Posted by: Barky Odumbass at December 20, 2013 04:51 PM (XnALK)

203 Ronald Reagan was president in 1986. George Bush in 2006. Senate presidents due the bidding of their president and vice versa. This can't be new to you. Politicians change their positions based on a lot of things, including who is president and the prevailing political winds. There is no appetite in the Republican base for amnesty. If there were, it would have happened already. Just like gun control, it hasn't. Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2013 08:35 PM (g1DWB) Oh. I forgot. We don't vote for senators. We just vote for placeholders that vote for whatever the president deems necessary. Good thing the house actually has constituents they serve. Otherwise Mitch McConnell would have gotten his wish again in 2006.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 20, 2013 04:51 PM (50Ig8)

204 And this is what I expect many people to do. On the good side, this might move the medical care giving system back towards the direction of market forces instead of the financial excesses attributable to the widespread misuse of "Insurance." Posted by: Barky Odumbass at December 20, 2013 08:51 PM (XnALK) Agreed.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 20, 2013 04:53 PM (JQuNB)

205 Off damned sock!

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 20, 2013 04:53 PM (XnALK)

206 My big fear is that the majority of Republican voters agree with the talking heads on Fox News.

Posted by: QUACK BACK at December 20, 2013 04:54 PM (Cs2tJ)

207 Barbara Walter's messiah will be working on that obamascam cluster fk while vacationing in Hawaii . You peons grab your ankles, because your in for a scr.......

Posted by: Buffalobob at December 20, 2013 04:54 PM (RZBmV)

208
The People's Cube is one of the best humor sites on the internet. Its founder, Oleg Atbashian, who goes by the name Comrade Red Square on the website, was born in the USSR and in his youth was a graphic artist who designed Soviet propaganda posters.

Today he is not a fan of Communism. He now lives in NYC, and uses his considerable artistic talent to ruthlessly mock Leftists.

Posted by: rickl at December 20, 2013 08:19 PM (sdi6R)


Did not know that.  Thanks for puttin me some knowledge.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 20, 2013 04:55 PM (XnALK)

209 I Love It !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 20, 2013 04:55 PM (6/+vz)

210 Jugs? That seems counterintuitive. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 20, 2013 08:44 PM (4SpT3) Not when you think of alternative meanings of the word "jugs"

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 20, 2013 04:55 PM (yz6yg)

211 I think I have just the nickname for Krupp now... Ojama Boy.

It's a portmanteau of "Obama" and "pajama". It's also the first half of the Japanese word "ojamamashite", which is customary to say when entering a Japanese home and roughly translates to "pardon the intrusion". In this case, the intrusion of Obamacare into every facet of our lives.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 20, 2013 04:56 PM (RGQmh)

212 Oddly, all the smug preening liberals in my office don't want to talk about healthcare any more.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 20, 2013 04:56 PM (6ahup)

213 Why does Allah feel comfortable quoting people in his "Quotes of the Day" post, without attributing who they came from?  I noticed that he quoted Ace today.

Or am I missing the secret links that let me see who said it?

Seems wrong.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 20, 2013 04:57 PM (LxcRK)

214 Everyone holds their breath around Obama hoping their health plan doesn't get sent to the cornfield. Posted by: Madamex at December 20, 2013 08:32 PM (yG4eh) He really IS like that creepy kid from that Twilight Zone episode, isn't he? Except for the fact that he can't ACTUALLY wish people into a cornfield with magic powers. Barbara Walters and her ilk are very disappointed that Obama couldn't wish the "bad men into the corn". "I was just wonderin' what you were doin?" "I made a gopher, with 3 heads!" "My, he's a FINE ONE! I ain't never seen a gopher with three heads before!"

Posted by: Deety at December 20, 2013 04:57 PM (ad4e8)

215 Ugh. Trapped at airport. Plane broke. Gonna miss our connection to Singapore

Posted by: thunderb at December 20, 2013 04:58 PM (/vIyo)

216 At some point, won't the Supreme Court be forced to say that ObamaCare isn't really a law but a bunch of exceptions and exemptions that are so arbitrary and capricious that there's nothing left to enforce?

Excepting it's John Roberts, I mean.

Posted by: OCBill at December 20, 2013 04:58 PM (rFipM)

217 "Not when you think of alternative meanings of the word "jugs""

There is another meaning, other than her magnificent breasts?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 20, 2013 04:58 PM (LxcRK)

218 213 Oddly, all the smug preening liberals in my office don't want to talk about healthcare any more.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 20, 2013 08:56 PM (6ahup)

 

Make them.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 20, 2013 04:59 PM (sQ0LB)

219 #219: Yeah, it's just what Obama wants, right?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 20, 2013 05:00 PM (RGQmh)

220 "Oddly, all the smug preening liberals in my office don't want to talk about healthcare any more."

#GetTalking

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 20, 2013 05:00 PM (LxcRK)

221 There is another meaning, other than her magnificent breasts? Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 20, 2013 08:58 PM (LxcRK) Nope. That's pretty much it. Earthen vessel or breasts.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 20, 2013 05:00 PM (yz6yg)

222 What is this earthen vessel of which you speak?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 20, 2013 05:01 PM (LxcRK)

223 I'm guessing said smug liberal office mates have been preening about healthcare and Obama in general for years.  Seems a kindness for you to return the favor.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 20, 2013 05:01 PM (sQ0LB)

224 Get in their faces

Posted by: thunderb at December 20, 2013 05:02 PM (/vIyo)

225

My boss is an obot and 'he wants his benefits from the affordable care act'.  I hate this shit. 

 

*steam out of ears*

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2013 05:04 PM (6bvBO)

226 Federal Judge legalized gay marriage in Utah http://tinyurl.com/n33hnon

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2013 05:04 PM (Vk2pI)

227 Earthen vessel or breasts.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 20, 2013 09:00 PM (yz6yg)


Or geophones. Seismic crew line hands are known as "jughounds" or "jug hustlers", or simply "juggies".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2013 05:05 PM (TKUw7)

228 I think Obama's short term focus is that he's like a degenerate gambler doubling down. He's just hoping to shore things up for long enough for them to turn around. He probably knows it's not a good bet, but he's so far in debt right now he has to take the risk. Besides, the law has to turn out great, it's called Obamacare after all.

Posted by: Dave at December 20, 2013 05:05 PM (OMNfZ)

229 212 I think I have just the nickname for Krupp now... Ojama Boy. It's a portmanteau of "Obama" and "pajama". It's also the first half of the Japanese word "ojamamashite", which is customary to say when entering a Japanese home and roughly translates to "pardon the intrusion". In this case, the intrusion of Obamacare into every facet of our lives. Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 20, 2013 08:56 PM (RGQmh)/i] Dude, you said "portmanteau." You deserve some sort of award.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 20, 2013 05:05 PM (JQuNB)

230 Tell your boss that if he is a boss, he's a 1%er and should be grateful for his opportunity to overpay for his healthcare so that the local crack whore can have unlimited free abortions.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 20, 2013 05:05 PM (sQ0LB)

231 Raise your hand if you think anyone in this administration knew anything about health insurance, health care, or the health sector that did not first originate in the mouth of a lobbyist.  That wonk gap thing?  Let's revisit that in the context of delivering a giant program to 315 million people on an individual level.  It can't be done.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 20, 2013 05:06 PM (ltdV/)

232 Did someone say, "Juggy"?

Posted by: Forsythe P. Jones at December 20, 2013 05:06 PM (RGQmh)

233 227 Federal Judge legalized gay marriage in Utah

http://tinyurl.com/n33hnon

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2013 09:04 PM (Vk2pI)


That's just the Titanic, taking on more water.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 20, 2013 05:06 PM (XnALK)

234 Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Ethan Krupp

They're stamping them out like like clones!!!!


The Clone Wars begun they have.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 20, 2013 05:07 PM (LSDdO)

235 I'm tempted CC.  We don't speak much.  It's only 2 of us in the office far from HQ.  Drives me kcufn nuts.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2013 05:08 PM (6bvBO)

236 Barbara Walter's messiah will be working on that obamascam cluster fk while vacationing in Hawaii . You peons grab your ankles, because your in for a scr..... Posted by: Buffalobob Speaking of Baabaa my wife had her most Fascinating People on, really piece of shit show. No. 1 was guess...Hillary Clinton! WTF did she do this past year but avoid Benghazi and retire? This had to be a puff piece for a 2016 run. Heck I'm suspicious they paid Baabaa off somehow. She must be a greedy bitch cause she simply won't retire and go away.

Posted by: The Farmer at December 20, 2013 05:08 PM (eBupg)

237 Evening all. Can you say third world country?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2013 05:08 PM (t3UFN)

238 Judge Robert Shelby is a fucking Obama appointed idiot.  


Nothing better can be expected from such assholes. 

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 20, 2013 05:09 PM (XnALK)

239 213 Oddly, all the smug preening liberals in my office don't want to talk about healthcare any more.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 20, 2013 08:56 PM (6ahup)


I've noticed the same thing.  They never want to talk about it anymore.

Posted by: CDR M at December 20, 2013 05:09 PM (LsJl8)

240 Posted by: CDR M at December 20, 2013 09:09 PM (LsJl How's Charlestown?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2013 05:10 PM (t3UFN)

241 229 I think Obama's short term focus is that he's like a degenerate gambler doubling down. He's just hoping to shore things up for long enough for them to turn around. He probably knows it's not a good bet, but he's so far in debt right now he has to take the risk. Besides, the law has to turn out great, it's called Obamacare after all.

Posted by: Dave at December 20, 2013 09:05 PM (OMNfZ)


I agree.  The Stupidest President in History is simply trying to "fake it till you make it."   It's the only thing he has ever known how to do.  He is an utter fucking bullshit artist. 

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 20, 2013 05:10 PM (XnALK)

242 By this time tomorrow I'll be hunting rhino it Botswana. What do you think about that !!! Well ... you certainly seem to be in touch with your anger.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 20, 2013 05:11 PM (6/+vz)

243 221 "Oddly, all the smug preening liberals in my office don't want to talk about healthcare any more." The same is true for me. I'm stuck with asking myself, "Just how much of an asshole should I be with these braindead motherfuckers?" I try hard not to be an asshole about these things, but goddam, this is a real challenge.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 20, 2013 05:11 PM (JQuNB)

244 Top. Men. They have access to your financials. They have access to your medical records. They will eventually be able to determine when you're no longer viable: you don't vote for them, and you take out more than you bring in. Then you shall be terminated. Top. Men.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at December 20, 2013 05:11 PM (BDH94)

245 U.S. District Judge Robert Shelby, ruling in a lawsuit brought by three gay couples, found that an amendment to the Utah Constitution defining marriage as exclusively between a man and a woman violated the rights of gay couples to due process and equal protection under the U.S. Constitution. Off the top of my head, if the Utah amendment was passed according to law, there is no due process violation. If a gay man can marry a woman, or a lesbian marry a man, there is no equal protection violation. WTF is this judge talking about? Judges are all powerful now, no respect for the democratic process or the meaning of the constitution.

Posted by: real joe at December 20, 2013 05:12 PM (xXhgd)

246 221 "Oddly, all the smug preening liberals in my office don't want to talk about healthcare any more." #GetTalking Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 20, 2013 09:00 PM (LxcRK) Heh. The smugness and righteousness is strong with them. They have become modern day puritans.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 20, 2013 05:12 PM (J6c6A)

247 I've noticed the same thing. They never want to talk about it anymore. Posted by: CDR M at December 20, 2013 09:09 PM (LsJl Time to print the Pajama Boy ad and leave a copy....everywhere.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 20, 2013 05:12 PM (6fSty)

248 At 5:45 at this audio link (mp3) I'm mentioned by Ann Coulter: http://tinyurl.com/om9sw7q It's today's Sean Hannity show, with a guest host (Kirby Wilbur) broadcasting to the nation with Ann Coulter, who at 5:45 name-checks zombietime. (Referring to my "Death Threats Against Bush" post from 4 years ago.)

Posted by: zombie at December 20, 2013 05:13 PM (+cx5n)

249 Great rant Deety.  I haven't seen other posts from you.  Welcome.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 20, 2013 05:13 PM (V70Uh)

250 Bill Whittle puts the hammer down on the LIVs: Add the spaces back in: https://www.billwhittle. com/afterburner /end-beginning

Posted by: grognard at December 20, 2013 05:14 PM (znRtR)

251 crap, sorry, take the spaces out

Posted by: grognard at December 20, 2013 05:15 PM (znRtR)

252

"Are these being smothered at birth by the present tendency of the federal courts to casually toss out any and all challenges to federal laws on the basis of a supposed lack of standing? "

Technically none of us have `standing` because we have not been affected by the law yet. That changes Jan 1, 2014 when the law goes into force. I would not be surprised to see a class level suit brought by We the People on a level of the tobacco lawsuits of yore.

Posted by: JohnMc at December 20, 2013 05:15 PM (3h0SS)

253 Mummy, my cup is empty! May I milk Mr. Ed again?

Posted by: Pajama Boy at December 20, 2013 05:15 PM (FcR7P)

254 Nice zombie!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 20, 2013 05:16 PM (sQ0LB)

255 Hard to get worked up over the gay marriage thing anymore.  We lost.  Just a matter of time until the courts impose it everywhere.

The next fun will be the challenges to polygamy and incest.  No rationale for keeping those illegal, once you can no longer use procreation as a rationale for marriage.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 20, 2013 05:16 PM (LxcRK)

256 I guess love is like the ozone layer ... you never miss it until it's gone.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 20, 2013 05:17 PM (6/+vz)

257
It's today's Sean Hannity show, with a guest host (Kirby Wilbur) broadcasting to the nation with Ann Coulter, who at 5:45 name-checks zombietime. (Referring to my "Death Threats Against Bush" post from 4 years ago.)

Posted by: zombie at December 20, 2013 09:13 PM (+cx5n)


You've done some good work. I'm not surprised that it gets recognized from time to time. 

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 20, 2013 05:17 PM (XnALK)

258 I doubt the illegals really care about a "path to citizenship". They are here, and they are having babies, which we stupidly declare to be American Citizens. Hispanics make up 25% of the school-age population (with whites barely 50%). In a few years, they will have the right to vote. Keeping the borders wide open for 35 years has consequences, and the most immediate consequence is that we are becoming a Latin American country.

Posted by: whoever at December 20, 2013 05:17 PM (zu9Ee)

259 On a happy note, I picking up the aged prime rib tomorro for Christmas dinner. 

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2013 05:20 PM (6bvBO)

260 Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances!

Posted by: Grand Moff SCOAMF at December 20, 2013 05:21 PM (dvRYt)

261 256 Hard to get worked up over the gay marriage thing anymore. We lost. Just a matter of time until the courts impose it everywhere.

The next fun will be the challenges to polygamy and incest. No rationale for keeping those illegal, once you can no longer use procreation as a rationale for marriage.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 20, 2013 09:16 PM (LxcRK)

 

There's always the arguments for the moral good of society--oh, right...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 20, 2013 05:21 PM (sQ0LB)

262 I expect to see the preening little fucknut double down on the law after Christmas. Why you say? Single payer dudes all that money comes to DC and boy do they know how to spend it. Plus all that money insurance companies have to keep on hand to pay claims in the trillions they say. HahahahAhaha then can you satay 401k babies. This malignant narcissist won't stop he hates us all.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman RN now your MD at December 20, 2013 05:22 PM (KuZ6A)

263 Bill Whittle puts the hammer down on the LIVs: Thanks. He's not pulling any punches today.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2013 05:23 PM (FcR7P)

264 A previous thread just leap frogged over this one.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 20, 2013 05:23 PM (bCEmE)

265 Waitv'til next year, when you can't keep the ObamaTax-comoliant plan you bought in 2014.

Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at December 20, 2013 05:24 PM (noB3y)

266 214 Why does Allah feel comfortable quoting people in his "Quotes of the Day" post, without attributing who they came from? I noticed that he quoted Ace today. Or am I missing the secret links that let me see who said it? Seems wrong. Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 20, 2013 08:57 PM (LxcRK) Usually some of the words are hyperlinked I think. I'm looking through it and can see the hyperlinked words. I'm not seeing anything from Ace though.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 20, 2013 05:24 PM (oFCZn)

267 Oddly, all the smug preening liberals in my office don't want to talk about healthcare any more. Posted by: Mr. Feverhead We just had our Christmas dinner for the city tree commission. Needless to say of the 5 members there I think 3 are crazy liberals. I worked the failure of Obamacare website into the conversation...crickets! LOL Nope they didn't want to talk about that.

Posted by: The Farmer at December 20, 2013 05:24 PM (eBupg)

268 227 Federal Judge legalized gay marriage in Utah Is this some kind of judicial blitzkrieg? Seems like one a day for the last three days.

Posted by: whoever at December 20, 2013 05:25 PM (zu9Ee)

269 ojamamashite I think this means something totally different in Irish.

Posted by: grognard at December 20, 2013 05:25 PM (znRtR)

270 How's Charlestown?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2013 09:10 PM (t3UFN)


Only spent one night there.  The rest of the time was at sea.  It wasn't too bad.  Saw about 20 water spouts the first day at off of Jax and then the day we came in rode out some 6-8 ft seas.  We got the mission done so a success.

Posted by: CDR M at December 20, 2013 05:28 PM (LsJl8)

271 #263: Democrats in Congress have already floated the idea of seizing all our 401(k)s to shore up Social Security. Several years ago, when they first took control during Bush's term, I think.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 20, 2013 05:28 PM (RGQmh)

272 I saw that Tami.  Thought it was my compter freaking out.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2013 05:29 PM (6bvBO)

273 I try hard not to be an asshole about these things, but goddam, this is a real challenge.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 20, 2013 09:11 PM (JQuNB)


Turn about is fair play.  Weapons free my man.  Fire for effect!

Posted by: CDR M at December 20, 2013 05:29 PM (LsJl8)

274 Waitv'til next year, when you can't keep the ObamaTax-comoliant plan you bought in 2014. Wait until you can't get rid of it.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2013 05:29 PM (FcR7P)

275 #270: Good one! I see the "o" and I see the "shite".

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 20, 2013 05:35 PM (RGQmh)

276 Obama admitted he practises bestiality. How come that's not news? "I screwed the duck" he said.

Posted by: Bean Pies! at December 20, 2013 05:37 PM (Qev5V)

277 If they don't want to talk about healthcare tough titty we need to rub their noses in their bad decisions or they will just keep piling the misery on. I want them so shaken over their bad decisions that they are afraid to raise their heads.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman RN now your MD at December 20, 2013 05:39 PM (KuZ6A)

278 Oddly, all the smug preening liberals in my office don't want to talk about healthcare any more. Well THAT made Secret Santa a lot easier! TJ Max-- Pajamas, Mug, and stale ass, "Gourmet" Co-Co Mix -- $19.76! Wooh! UNDER the $20 max!!! (Although, you will likely, hate yourself for buying foottie pajamas in a mens size XL for almost $14, for the rest of your life.) Caveat Emptor

Posted by: Deety at December 20, 2013 05:39 PM (ad4e8)

279 Posted by: Deety at December 20, 2013 08:57 PM (ad4e The way he arbitrarily changes the law, he is Anthony.

Posted by: Madamex at December 20, 2013 05:40 PM (yG4eh)

280 #279: Now that's clever! Great idea, Deety!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 20, 2013 05:43 PM (RGQmh)

281

>>"The White House is focused on winning the news cycle, day by day..."

 

That's all they have to do. Remember -- they're fighting Republicans.

This law isn't going anywhere.

Posted by: rrpjr at December 20, 2013 05:46 PM (s/yC1)

282 I heard a story on the radio the other day, Obama was apprised of the bomb scare at Harvard when the fuckwit didn't want to take his final, but no one told him about Benghazi.

Posted by: Madamex at December 20, 2013 05:49 PM (yG4eh)

283 On a happy note, I picking up the aged prime rib tomorro for Christmas dinner. Posted by: Infidel Got ours today at the best grocer for meat in town. Not sure how aged it is, but it wil lage a bit before Christmas Eve. On sale @ 12.00/lb it cost $70! Yikes, but a lot of good eatin.

Posted by: The Farmer at December 20, 2013 05:49 PM (eBupg)

284 The way he arbitrarily changes the law, he is Anthony. Posted by: Madamex at December 20, 2013 09:40 PM (yG4eh) What is disturbing, albeit in a minor way, I suppose, is that Barbara Walters thinks that a three-headed gopher really IS a fine thing, and is pissed that they shot it so as to block that fucking horror from viewer's eyes.

Posted by: Deety at December 20, 2013 05:52 PM (ad4e8)

285 O/T  I don't think Megyn Kelly even read the GQ article.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 20, 2013 05:53 PM (V70Uh)

286 This is clearly sabotage caused by deviants, wreckers, and right-wing haters! Our brilliant President should not have to deal with this!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 20, 2013 06:13 PM (Hvsud)

287 O/T I don't think Megyn Kelly even read the GQ article. No one else did, why should she? Like, seriously, when has ANYONE ever read a GQ article? I was surprised to find it was a going concern. After Ed McMahon died in 2009, I figured Publishers Clearinghouse Sweepstakes was dead too. Huh. I had no idea that subscriptions to print magazines even EXISTED past 1993 w/out Publishers Clearinghouse Sweepstakes. Huh. Not as media savvy as I thought I was

Posted by: Deety at December 20, 2013 06:19 PM (ad4e8)

288 I think the last GQ article I read was something about the French Foreign Legion back in the '70's.

Oddly, very few of the Legionnaires seemed to wear shirts.  Very fit young men though...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 20, 2013 06:57 PM (XO6WW)

289 244 221  They will never admit how badly they fucked up, let alone act to fix it.

It's time to go full asshole.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 20, 2013 07:00 PM (XO6WW)

290 Sheesh: Uncle Ace is so credulous, even Darryl Issa could leak his partial-transcript-based fake scandals here.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at December 20, 2013 07:30 PM (w45V0)

291 "The White House is focused on winning the news cycle, day by day, not the kind of detached technocratic policymaking that they, and the lawÂ’s other supporters, hoped this law would embody. Does your fix create problems later, cause costs to spiral or people to drop out of the insurance market, or lead to political pressure to expand the fixes in ways that critically undermine the law? Well, thatÂ’s preferable to sudden death right now."

Assuming this is accurate, that's amazing. These people in charge, are the stupidest fucking idiots on the planet, and the only ones even more stupid are those that voted for them.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 21, 2013 12:09 AM (G+x2c)

292 O-Care isn't about created a viable insurance marketplace -- it's about creating a taxpayer funded money laundering scheme to pave and pay for the road to single payer. 

It goes like this -- OCare is really a massive expansion of Medicaid -- that part has been very successful.  Medicaid claims are processed by carriers because the gubermint has been proven to be incompetent at this task.  Carriers don't mind the task, they get the taxpayers to pay for processing OMedicaid claims, and they don't have to pay for the claim -- it's all paid for by the taxpayer.  Easy gravy... 

The carriers in turn will take significant portions (billions?) of what they are paid for processing OMedicaid claims, and lobby politicians for more Medicaid claims to process, plus higher taxes so they get paid even better.  All paid for by the taxpayers...   A socialist money launderying scam made in liberal heaven. 

Don't hold your breath for any of the crony GOP LOSERship to stop this sort of crony activity -- helping crony's out in exchange for more campaign bucks and insider trading info is the LOSERship's bread and butter when it comes to maintaining their power over common sense Constitutionallist tea party types. 

Posted by: Seipherd at December 21, 2013 10:20 PM (AortR)

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