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May 27, 2013

Memorial Day Morning Thread
— andy

Posted by: andy at 03:20 AM | Comments (132)
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1 Some gave all.

Posted by: Roland THTG at May 27, 2013 03:23 AM (qyoyx)

2 All gave some.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 27, 2013 03:24 AM (u82oZ)

3 Good Morning all.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 27, 2013 03:27 AM (0MVzQ)

4
In remembrance of Flight Surgeon Marvin L. Marchmann who served with the 118th Assault Helicopter Co. from Nov 66-67 in the RVN.

http://www.118ahc.org/

Posted by: Doctor Fish at May 27, 2013 03:27 AM (1lQzY)

5
Barry Sadler sang about my good friend Emmett Horn who died on December 23, 1964 from gunshot wounds to the chest and head. Emmett was from Vidor, Texas, and who could forget his pet monkey LBJ?

Posted by: Doctor Fish at May 27, 2013 03:35 AM (1lQzY)

I thanked friends and family that served.

Thanks, to all the rest of you here that did also.

Posted by: Gmac- Pondering the impending implosion at May 27, 2013 03:40 AM (IanLz)

7
To the family of Harold "Buddy" Ketner, killed on March 9, 1967 at Nah Be, South Vietnam during operation Firefly.

http://tinyurl.com/3r9rmbb

Posted by: Doctor Fish at May 27, 2013 03:41 AM (1lQzY)

8 To my Uncle and his crew mates of a B-24 who could have gone home after 25 missions but stuck together and stuck it out. Shot down two weeks before the fall of Berlin on their 43rd mission.

Posted by: Beto at May 27, 2013 03:48 AM (MhA4j)

The Mansions of the Lord

To fallen soldiers let us sing,
Where no rockets fly nor bullets wing,
Our broken brothers let us bring
To the Mansions of the Lord

No more weeping,
No more fight,
No friends bleeding through the night,
Just Devine embrace,
Eternal light,
In the Mansions of the Lord

Where no mothers cry
And no children weep,
We shall stand and guard
Though the angels sleep,
Oh, through the ages let us keep
The Mansions of the Lord

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 27, 2013 03:51 AM (rfBpf)

10 Memorial Day music video with vintage footage from 50's-60's Port Chester, NY http://youtu.be/DiXlakwHfhM

Posted by: Chris Cassone at May 27, 2013 03:55 AM (xlr50)

11 For the Mrs Uncle who signed up as a PFC and retired a Full Colonel. Fought in Europe with the 7th infantry with multiple citations for bravery and more Purple Hearts than John Kerry. Awarded the D.S.C and two more purple hearts in Korea.

Posted by: Beto at May 27, 2013 04:09 AM (MhA4j)

Remembering all those who gave everthing.

Navy, Army, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, National Guard

From Lexington/Concord in 1775 to Afghanistan 2013 and all battles inbetween.

For those in peacetime who knew no war, yet still gave all.

You are not forgotten. You will always be remembered.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 27, 2013 04:10 AM (PBm/l)

13 I wish for the Horde a calm and blessed day as we remember the fallen.

Enjoy the day, love your families, and rejoice in the fact that we have all been blessed to have been born/live in the United States of America.

Posted by: Cheri at May 27, 2013 04:12 AM (EAgmr)

14 For those that missed it, news links are on PA's thread below.

Posted by: Vic at May 27, 2013 04:15 AM (lZvxr)

Amen Cheri.....

Long live the United States of America

Posted by: CrotcheyOldJarhead at May 27, 2013 04:15 AM (PsfVm)

16 Bittersweet remembering those who gave all. Enjoy the parades and the charring of animal flesh, Rons and Ettes. And we can because of those who went before.

Posted by: RightWingProf at May 27, 2013 04:15 AM (E/o+q)

17 Happy Memorial Day everybody! I was reading some letters my late grandfather had written while he was in England during WWII. In one of them, he wrote, "Hearing talk about an invasion. Not sure." The letter was dated March 1944. He was talking about D Day! It gave me chills. I miss him.

Posted by: Jmel at May 27, 2013 04:16 AM (9tSXa)

18 For all the Merchant Marines who died alongside our service men and women.

Posted by: Beto at May 27, 2013 04:17 AM (MhA4j)

In honor of the heroes, the ones who didn't come back. For the rest of us, our day is November 11.

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Andy where is the flag pic from?

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 27, 2013 04:17 AM (hC80d)

20 Drudge had two links up...one mentioning a Memorial Day parade being cancelled due to "a lack of available veterans" and another about veteran cemeteries "rotting" due to lack of care. Just curious...would like to hear status reports on these topics from around the country. Any parades? Veteran cemetery maintenance?

Posted by: Icedog at May 27, 2013 04:26 AM (9ScGj)

21 What's a "veteran's cemetery" as opposed to a regular cemetery? Most of the national cemeteries are kept up by the feds, right?

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 27, 2013 04:30 AM (hC80d)

22 God bless all of those who served and the families that lost a soldier. We are forever in your debt. And thanks to all the morons who served or are serving. America is still the greatest nation on earth due to all of you.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at May 27, 2013 04:30 AM (N7JKx)

23 Just curious...would like to hear status reports on these topics from around the country. Any parades? Veteran cemetery maintenance?

Posted by: Icedog at May 27, 2013 08:26 AM (9ScGj)

I have the link on the cemeteries and monuments on the opening thread. I suspect it is BS with the towns looking for more dollars.

Posted by: Vic at May 27, 2013 04:31 AM (lZvxr)

24 9 Old Dog - I love that poem. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at May 27, 2013 04:32 AM (N7JKx)

25 The Confederate burial ground in Indianapolis has been recently restored. It was maintained by the cemetery and not the feds until recently.

http://www.crownhill.org/events/detail.php/e/68

I'm about one tweet away from telling my boss to fuck off and heading over there this afternoon instead of running test scripts.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking beer at May 27, 2013 04:35 AM (hO8IJ)

26 Sometimes I feel silly catching up on ONT comments when there's fresh morning threads cooking - and sometimes I run into things like Bomber's final story last night, the PTSD suicide - all kinds of ways war mails & kills. Any way to collect this week's In Memorium stories comments? I've appreciated reading them.

Posted by: mindful webworker remembers at May 27, 2013 04:35 AM (P1Tw6)

27 PFC Harry A. Goldenberg K Co., 105th Inf. Reg., 27th Inf. Div. KIA Saipan, 7/1/44 No words. Just tears.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 27, 2013 04:36 AM (+98Gb)

28 It would be nice if the threads could be published every month in book form and mailed to all the subscribers (us).

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 27, 2013 04:37 AM (hC80d)

29 In memory of Cpl. Ricky Nelson, USMC, who died at the age of 23 years old, one week before his first wedding anniversary. An IED blew up the Humvee he was riding in, in Al Anbar Province Iraq. According to survivors of the bomb blast, Ricky was singing "Amazing Grace" when he was killed.

His body was flown back to the United States on his first wedding anniversary. The pastor of my church did his funeral service. He was his brother.

Love you, Ricky.

Posted by: mama winger at May 27, 2013 04:38 AM (P6QsQ)

30 Posted by: USS Diversity at May 27, 2013 08:30 AM (hC80d) I know there are a number of "veteran cemeteries" around the country (already picked one out near Dallas...didn't think the Cowboys would let me be buried under the 50 yard line). Supposedly, "veterans only", but no idea if upkeep is local or federal government responsibility. I believe in many places, until recently, local patriotic residents provided much of the upkeep.

Posted by: Icedog at May 27, 2013 04:39 AM (9ScGj)

31 28 It would be nice if the threads could be published every month in book form and mailed to all the subscribers (us). That's only for the Iridium Membership level. The waiting list just to get in the lottery is five years long.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2013 04:40 AM (llixq)

32 Memorial day originally started by Confederate veterans to honor thier dead, now we honor together, all our fallen.

JJ, I asked before, was that your mom's dad?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at May 27, 2013 04:40 AM (Cydud)

33 "one mentioning a Memorial Day parade being cancelled due to "a lack of available veterans" The report that I saw said that many of the older veterans are (sadly) no longer able to march, and that the younger ones don't seem to be turning out. The city in question is having a ceremony at the park, so it's not like the vets are being ignored. They're willing to bring the parade back if more sign up next year. Unfortunately (actually, fortunately) we haven't been in any mass-scale wars since WWII, so it's understandable (if sad) that the numbers of vets are declining. My grandfather has been gone for 15 years, and he was the last surviving WWII vet in the immediate family. My grandmother's brothers have both been gone for more than 25 years.

Posted by: Olaf the Norwegian Berserker at May 27, 2013 04:41 AM (3b7hA)

34 #20 I see Heather has posted about the Confederate Cemetery in Indianapolis.

Indianapolis also has the excellently maintained World War Memorial (WWI), the huge monument on Monument Circle in the center of town (commemorating the Civil War) and the monument to the USS Indianapolis along the canal.

We also have the headquarters of the American legion. Arsenal Technical High School is actually on the site of the old military arsenal from the Civil War, and has some historic buildings within its campus.

We do not have a military cemetery here, but rather, in many cemeteries, there are veterans' sections, such as the one where my father is buried on the southside.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 27, 2013 04:42 AM (GoIUi)

35 32 Memorial day originally started by Confederate veterans to honor thier dead, now we honor together, all our fallen. JJ, I asked before, was that your mom's dad? Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at May 27, 2013 08:40 AM (Cydud) Sorry, Billy Bob. Must have missed that. No, he was my dad's brother. I never met him but I feel he has been with me my whole life.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 27, 2013 04:43 AM (+98Gb)

36 "...all kinds of ways war ~~mails~~ maims & kills." What a line to have to repeat. sigh. Why is autoincorrect not optional?

Posted by: mindful webworker remembers at May 27, 2013 04:43 AM (euACX)

37 mama winger at May 27, 2013 08:38 AM (P6QsQ) Did you see that "I Drive Your Truck" thread a day or so ago?

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 27, 2013 04:43 AM (U2UQk)

38 Did you see that "I Drive Your Truck" thread a day or so ago?

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I didn't. I've been absent a lot this past week.

Posted by: mama winger at May 27, 2013 04:44 AM (P6QsQ)

39 Why is autoincorrect not optional? It is Turn it off in the "settings" icon.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2013 04:45 AM (llixq)

I know there are a number of "veteran cemeteries" around the country (already picked one out near Dallas...didn't think the Cowboys would let me be buried under the 50 yard line).

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But I bet if you got cremated you could get somebody to drop some ashes during a stadium tour. We buried my dad in full Cowboy regalia.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 27, 2013 04:47 AM (hC80d)

41 I didn't. I've been absent a lot this past week. It's emotional. Very, very. Fair warning. You have been warned.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 27, 2013 04:47 AM (U2UQk)

42 Vic, that scag arrested for the bathing suit was probably at Atlantic Beach, the Black beach on the strand. If not she was arrested for excessive ugly in public.

A capital offense.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at May 27, 2013 04:47 AM (Cydud)

43 "We do not have a military cemetery here, but rather, in many cemeteries, there are veterans' sections, such as the one where my father is buried on the southside." Miss Marple, I'm sure your father is content...old vets never run out of "war stories" (even if 98% of the stories have nothing to do with combat).

Posted by: Icedog at May 27, 2013 04:49 AM (9ScGj)

44 Posted by: USS Diversity at May 27, 2013 08:47 AM (hC80d) That's great! Make sure you visit him on Sundays when the Cowboys win and let him know (hopefully more often this year)

Posted by: Icedog at May 27, 2013 04:53 AM (9ScGj)

45 >> Andy where is the flag pic from? Boston Common. Each flag represents a Massachusetts serviceman who gave his life in service of our country since the Civil War.

Posted by: Andy at May 27, 2013 04:59 AM (li+aS)

46 I know they say Memorial Day is for those who perished in defense of Liberty and Veterans Day is for the rest of us. Well, there should be something that separates those, like Nam Grunt, who served in combat, and those like me who didn't. Nam old buddy, to you and those like you, thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Posted by: teej at May 27, 2013 05:01 AM (BfZ1r)

47 When the original cold fusion (side bar story) experiments were run there were experiments run all over the world in an attempt to duplicate. Some of those experiments were successful - most were not.

Years later - after they had been chased out of science- Fleischman and Ponds said that they had discovered that Palladium has 16 atomic structures and that only the density of one of those structures was high enough to support the reaction they observed. In other words it was pure luck that their original experiment worked - they happened to have a palladium sample in the correct high density configuration necessary for the experiment to succeed.

The few people who were able to duplicate the experiment were also simply lucky enough to have palladium samples in the correct atomic configuration. Both NASA and Texas A&M were among those who were able to duplicate. When I worked at the Johnson Space Center as an engineer I spoke to someone familiar with the tests that had been run there, and he said their test definitely did show excess energy.

The people who were unable to duplicate the original experiment mounted a terrorist tactic attack on the whole subject - using many of the same techniques used by the current administration in their attack on conservative views; false narratives, casting aspersions on the motives of those they were attacking, and using dishonest reporting to make sure only their side was heard.

The people who deny the possibility of cold fusion - have no problem swallowing whole the absurdity of global warming.

Posted by: [/i] An Observation at May 27, 2013 05:03 AM (ylhEn)

On this Memorial Day as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today.

Barack Obama May 27, 2008

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 27, 2013 05:04 AM (Yhu4q)

49 Billy Bob, that woman was so hideous I think the cops would have cited her even if she was wearing a moo moo dress.

Posted by: Icedog at May 27, 2013 05:06 AM (9ScGj)

50 autoincorrect not optional? ... Turn it off in the "settings" icon. @Sean Bannion Really, one-finger tapping the tiny kbd, autoincorrigible can be handy, not for spelling, but for quick word input. I just want it to be smarter. Cells. Bah! Heading into town where the cable connects...

Posted by: mindful webworker remembers at May 27, 2013 05:06 AM (waJ+2)

51 Good morning, morons & 'ettes. 'Hope everyone has a beautiful, peaceful Memorial Day bought with the blood of our brave men and women.

Posted by: Y-not at May 27, 2013 05:10 AM (5H6zj)

52 I've started viewing the HQ using Chrome since it has the fewest hiccups, but I think I'll have to change back to a different browser. The Google page that opens first actually has a flag and a yellow ribbon today, but they are so small, it is clear to me the intent.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 27, 2013 05:11 AM (4Mv1T)

President Barack Obama, Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America, to honor those who have given the ultimate sacrifice, played golf this wekend at Ft. Belvoir.

Hey you, guys...this four putt is for you

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 27, 2013 05:15 AM (Yhu4q)

54 Remembering my buddy George who got injured on a "mission that didn't exist" and had to fight the VA for years to get treatment. He was one of the scrappiest little guys I ever knew. He came for coffee every Tuesday until the day he went into the hospital and didn't make it back. Wherever he is, he is giving them a hard time. God Bless you, George.

Posted by: SurferDoc at May 27, 2013 05:16 AM (6H6FZ)

55 Must-read over at This Ain't Hell: http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=35735

Posted by: Y-not at May 27, 2013 05:17 AM (5H6zj)

56 47 The people who deny the possibility of cold fusion - have no problem swallowing whole the absurdity of global warming. Posted by: An Observation at May 27, 2013 09:03 AM (ylhEn) Now that's just silly. I don't "deny" the possibility of cold fusion. But after reading the very lengthy, and considerably chewy, articles that are critical of the proponents, it seems to me that the latter have been very adamant about not letting others see their data to try and repeat their experiments. That is the scientific method. And since they have refused to do it and attacked those who criticize them for doing so, you bring upon yourself the healthy skepticism of others - just like Michael Mann, Al Gore and the CRU at East Anglia.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 27, 2013 05:19 AM (+98Gb)

57 @35

10-4 We share your loss.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at May 27, 2013 05:20 AM (Cydud)

58 @49

True dat. What is with those things on her lip?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at May 27, 2013 05:22 AM (Cydud)

59 To absent friends.

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at May 27, 2013 05:23 AM (OY/SZ)

60 i called my brother, Marine aviator, and thanked him for his bravery and told him he is still my hero. Also my dad, WW2 vet who will be 87 on wednesday. We will never see their like again.

Posted by: megthered at May 27, 2013 05:26 AM (iR4Dg)

61
For Homer L. Hudson, the funniest sum'bitch evah! He palled around with Martha Raye in VN, and his day job was flying "Old Smokey", an older model UH-1B outfitted with an oil dispenser that atomized the petroleum into the hot exhaust producing smoke to obscure the LZ's.

I can still hear Homer called out "here comes Smokey" over the radio to alert the gun ships he was making a run down the LZ to provide cover for the "slicks" carrying the Infantry.

Scroll down for pictures of Smokey working LZ's.

http://tinyurl.com/3oln82t

Posted by: Doctor Fish at May 27, 2013 05:33 AM (1lQzY)

62 My family members who fought in 1861-65, 1918, 1944-45, and 1950-53 lived to come home. For those who's family and friends did not cross the threshold of home again, a most solemn thank you.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 27, 2013 05:37 AM (4Mv1T)

63 Now that's just silly. I don't "deny" the possibility of cold fusion. But after reading the very lengthy, and considerably chewy, articles that are critical of the proponents, it seems to me that the latter have been very adamant about not letting others see their data to try and repeat their experiments.

There as been exactly one article on cold fusion excepted for publication in a recognized peer reviewed scientific journal. In the article the author showed micro photographs of cratering in a Palladium cold fusion sample and performed the calculations that demonstrated that only a nuclear reaction had enough energy to produce craters of the size and shape shown.

His article was accepted and published because it couldn't be denied. Because he demonstrated the existence of the phenomena in a way that no one could argue with - his paper has received the other fate reserved for those who discover things that established scientists don't want to hear: it has been ignored.

Had you ever heard of it?

Posted by: [/i] An Observation at May 27, 2013 05:37 AM (ylhEn)

64 Happy Memorial Day!

God Bless our Troops, ALL OF THEM!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 27, 2013 05:38 AM (8Hnjw)

65 Really, one-finger tapping the tiny kbd, autoincorrigible can be handy, not for spelling, but for quick word input. I just want it to be smarter.

Cells. Bah! Heading into town where the cable connects...

Posted by: mindful webworker remembers at May 27, 2013 09:06 AM (waJ+2)

What you really mean is that you want something that's better at reading your mind not interpreting what you type.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 27, 2013 05:38 AM (1hekh)

66 I want to personally thank President Obama today for doing such a great job protecting us. We had so many problems when Bush was President and President Obama's strength and leadership has keep us safe.

Posted by: Tammy Bitemauser at May 27, 2013 05:40 AM (3Z1wn)

67 64 Posted by: An Observation at May 27, 2013 09:37 AM (ylhEn) Honestly, I do not want to get into a pissing contest about this, especially today. I will say this; skepticism is a very healthy thing, especially in light of "global warming." If this is to be taken seriously, then let them be completely forthcoming with all their data so that their experiments can be repeated independently and frequently. Then, and only then, can this thing be proven or disproven. I am not dismissing cold fusion outright at all. Far from it. But let's let the science speak for itself and let the chips fall where they may, okay?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 27, 2013 05:42 AM (+98Gb)

68 Another nice story for Memorial Day: http://www.washingtonguardian.com/marines-diary

Posted by: Y-not at May 27, 2013 05:44 AM (5H6zj)

What a touching story, Y-not.

Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 27, 2013 05:52 AM (gqEUi)

70 >>67 [Not here. Not today. --Andy] Thank you, Andy.

Posted by: Y-not at May 27, 2013 05:53 AM (5H6zj)

71 Pres. Reagan's 1984 Memorial Day address: http://preview.tinyurl.com/pba9wy8 Back when we had an American as President....

Posted by: Cretin, a high-grade moron at May 27, 2013 05:59 AM (c9aNZ)

72
Have a good Memorial Day to all veterans especially my Dad.

Semper Fi.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 27, 2013 06:01 AM (jKWYf)

73 56 JJ Sefton,

"science" how the fuck does it work? if the real geniuses can make the balonium q36 space modulators work as generation points I look forward to our new energy overlords....

my breath? no being held

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 27, 2013 06:02 AM (LRFds)

74 Pfc. Ernest Wingate "Doc" Matthews, 27th Inf Div, Bronze Star. Miss you Doc. Becky and I have 3 fine sons now and the oldest is named Matthew in your honor.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at May 27, 2013 06:03 AM (6QWEK)

75 Thank you to all of you who have served. Your dedication to our country and to each other humble me. Far better men and women than the crop fucking up DC right now. I honor you and your service.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 27, 2013 06:04 AM (jucos)

76 I read the Cold Fusion piece and the hundred or so comments. I suppose the team could really have reproduced the effect in their "black box" tests and people are naturally resistant to accepting such a breakthrough. But judging by the Guy's whipsawing between being a publicity hound and demanding absolute secrecy, I see a potential fraudster. If it turns out to be true, I'll be the first to celebrate.

Posted by: lincolntf at May 27, 2013 06:05 AM (ZshNr)

77 Of course they carry swords; they are God's soldiers. Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray; and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the Divine Power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls. Thank you for your sacrifice.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 27, 2013 06:05 AM (bS6uW)

78 Finally, someone does a book-length treatment of "Alger Hiss really was a Commie spy". Her thesis is that the subversion was sufficient to shift our own aims in WW II to those of the Soviet Monster. Result: hundreds of millions of dead resisting Communism, and, worse, in a nutshell, Obamacare. http://preview.tinyurl.com/pph42ad

Posted by: Cretin, a high-grade moron at May 27, 2013 06:06 AM (c9aNZ)

79 68 JJ Sefton,

yeah I'll let it go....gonna go look at trees and ponder the public...

I really miss real science and real engineering

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 27, 2013 06:06 AM (LRFds)

80 That Cold Fusion blurb in the sidebar is a fraud. That dude has been milking this BS for a freakin decade. And he had other fake energy projects for decades before that. He's made a career out of this crap. But there's a new sucker to fund him every time somebody points out he's a con man. Scientists themselves are actually bad at spotting outright fraud. They assume good faith. That the guy is really trying to do what he says. So they look for errors and mistakes instead of fraud.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 27, 2013 06:06 AM (R+6Q+)

Fot those who have never been to a Battlefield National Park I recommend four.

Gettysburg, PA.

Antietam, MD.

Manassas, VA.

Little Big Horn, MT.

All four look very similar today as they would have looked when the battles took place. But try to avoid going on the anniversaries of the battles.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 27, 2013 06:07 AM (PBm/l)

82 Look at his bio -- been a conman for decades. Oh, but the "scientific establishment" is holding him down, forcing him to work in the shadows.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 27, 2013 06:08 AM (R+6Q+)

83 "And She called...." http://preview.tinyurl.com/nvry5zn

Posted by: Cretin, a high-grade moron at May 27, 2013 06:09 AM (c9aNZ)

84 As a reminder since many, many people can't understand the difference:

"Q. What is the difference between Veterans Day and Memorial Day?

A. Many people confuse Memorial Day and Veterans Day. Memorial Day is a day for remembering and honoring military personnel who died in the service of their country, particularly those who died in battle or as a result of wounds sustained in battle. While those who died are also remembered, Veterans Day is the day set aside to thank and honor ALL those who served honorably in the military - in wartime or peacetime. In fact, Veterans Day is largely intended to thank LIVING veterans for their service, to acknowledge that their contributions to our national security are appreciated, and to underscore the fact that all those who served - not only those who died - have sacrificed and done their duty."

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 27, 2013 06:10 AM (1hekh)

In Memorial, Patrol Squadron Fifty, Aircrews 2 and 11. I lost some good friends and terrific squadron mates that night.

RIP

http://www.vpnavy.com/vp50mem_04dec98.html

Posted by: fly at May 27, 2013 06:11 AM (s6Phh)

87 Sorry, I guess I broke the comments section.

Posted by: fly at May 27, 2013 06:12 AM (s6Phh)

88 Sgt Green E Miller KIA RVN 1971. RIP, buddy.

Posted by: That SOB van Owen at May 27, 2013 06:12 AM (6hHSl)

89 In the barrel, fly.

Posted by: Y-not at May 27, 2013 06:14 AM (5H6zj)

90 Honestly, I do not want to get into a pissing contest about this, especially today.

Years ago I realized that arguing with anyone is a complete waste of time; arguments are intellectual fights, and like all fights the winner is not the person who is right - the winner is the person who fights the best.

For five years Scientific American led a fight denying that the Wright Brothers had flown in 1903. They charged them with being exactly the kind of frauds that anyone with cold fusion claims is accused of being today. The Scientific American case against the Wright Brothers was very strong - and it prevailed from 1903 - 1908. The case finally collapsed when the Wright Brothers had an airplane good enough that they could fly it over a city - where thousands of people saw it.

Because of the scorched earth policy of established science on cold fusion the following facts are true: it is almost impossible to get a paper supportive of the subject published, and the US Patent office won't except any patent applications on anything having to do with cold fusion.

Experimenters is cold fusion face huge obstacles far beyond the "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs" skepticism - they have to overcome an "assumption of fraud" on the part of external observers.
That some of the experiments are indeed fraud doesn't make anything any easier on those who aren't frauds.

Posted by: [/i] An Observation at May 27, 2013 06:16 AM (ylhEn)

91 A SOLDIERS PRAYER

Brave warriors,
should fate find us in battle,
May our cause be just.
May our leaders have clear vision.
May our courage not falter.
May we be triumphant an earn victory
as we show mercy to our enemies.
May our efforts bring lasting peace.
May our sacrifice be always
appreciated by those we serve.
May we return to our loved ones unharmed.
Should we be harmed, may our wounds heal.
Should we perish in the struggle,
may God embrace us and find for us
a place in His Kingdom.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 27, 2013 06:17 AM (8Hnjw)

92 I've never found the exact version of Nom Nobis without fucking Kenneth fucking Branagh! But I will have to say, that he completely changed my idea of Henry V. For the better, I think.

Posted by: Deety at May 27, 2013 06:17 AM (IFXnr)

93 But I will have to say, that he completely changed my idea of Henry V. For the better, I think. --- I love his portrayal. I'm pretty able to ignore the rest of his qualities, although that Wild Wild West performance makes it hard sometimes!

Posted by: Y-not at May 27, 2013 06:21 AM (5H6zj)

94 Experimenters is cold fusion face huge obstacles far beyond the "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs" skepticism - they have to overcome an "assumption of fraud" on the part of external observers.
That some of the experiments are indeed fraud doesn't make anything any easier on those who aren't frauds.

Posted by: An Observation at May 27, 2013 10:16 AM (ylhEn)

The problem is that, more and more, "big discovery" research has been found to be full of invalid assumptions or flawed methodology or outright fraud that each subsequent "big discovery" comes under increased scrutiny and skepticism. When you add to it that money increasingly drives research more than scientific curiosity, you can see why people want iron-clad proof of every new claim.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 27, 2013 06:23 AM (1hekh)

95 Any of you Vietnam Veterans recognize this place? http://tinyurl.com/pnkv6e9 My Dad's memory is shot from dementia. I showed him the photo 48 years after he was last there and he still remembered the place! I imagine it was a popular spot to visit.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 27, 2013 06:24 AM (tOkJB)

96 Sorry I meant "accept" not "except"

Posted by: [/i] An Observation at May 27, 2013 06:24 AM (ylhEn)

97 It seems to me if there was something worth pursuing in that cold fusion 'discoverer's' research, he'd have gotten funding from a private benefactor or company by now. Particularly the latter, for whom pubs would be less important than reproducible results.

Posted by: Y-not at May 27, 2013 06:25 AM (5H6zj)

98 And on this day when we honor those who gave so that others might live, I must ask the following: Of those who we must succor, must amnesty, must risk the long-term survival of the American Experiment for, how many are the descendents of someone who actually risked life for anything America has been defending in the last century? 0.01%? 0.5%? How many, pray tell? Indeed, on this Decoration Day, let us remember the role the people of our southern neighbor have played, domestic and foreign, in insuring liberty does not perish from the Earth. Progressives, RINOs, GOPers just wanting to gratify business interest: May we meet on the field of battle.

Posted by: "Flavius" at May 27, 2013 06:28 AM (7cSmf)

99 93 A SOLDIERS PRAYER Brave warriors, should fate find us in battle, May our cause be just. May our leaders have clear vision. May our courage not falter. May we be triumphant an earn victory as we show mercy to our enemies. May our efforts bring lasting peace. May our sacrifice be always appreciated by those we serve. May we return to our loved ones unharmed. Should we be harmed, may our wounds heal. Should we perish in the struggle, may God embrace us and find for us a place in His Kingdom. Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 27, 2013 10:17 AM (8Hnjw) Well... Good luck with that!

Posted by: Deety at May 27, 2013 06:33 AM (IFXnr)

100 Posted by: Deety at May 27, 2013 10:33 AM (IFXnr)

W.T.F.?!

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 27, 2013 06:35 AM (X6akg)

101 That some of the experiments are indeed fraud doesn't make anything any easier on those who aren't frauds. Posted by: An Observation at May 27, 2013 10:16 AM (ylhEn) If their data is good, they can get it published. Cold fusion is not impossible, but obviously it ain't easy. And since the experiments are so simple you don't need big bucks to fund it. You could do it in your basement. in facts folks have been doing experiments very much like cold fusion experiments for decades. Where are the reports of unusually high energy outputs?

Posted by: eman at May 27, 2013 06:36 AM (cQ4xo)

102 I wrote this 13 years ago. This afternoon I will be taking my 8 year old son with me for the first time, it's time to teach him what this day means: My Memorial Day http://tinyurl.com/otueugh This one I wrote 3 years ago. I still hold that picture in my mind almost every day. http://tinyurl.com/ndnl6uc

Posted by: Weirddave at May 27, 2013 06:39 AM (/xg3w)

103 Weirddave, That picture always gets me.

Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 27, 2013 06:43 AM (gqEUi)

104 I'm pretty able to ignore the rest of his qualities Like the fact that he has no lips? He could have almost been handsome, except for the fact that in addition to his weak chin, HE HAD NO LIPS!! Turns out later, he got super-fat and could barely sport an 1/2 beard! Oh, Wallander! How boring can Sweden be?

Posted by: Deety at May 27, 2013 06:43 AM (IFXnr)

105 The problem is that, more and more, "big discovery" research has been found to be full of invalid assumptions or flawed methodology or outright fraud that each subsequent "big discovery" comes under increased scrutiny and skepticism. When you add to it that money increasingly drives research more than scientific curiosity, you can see why people want iron-clad proof of every new claim.

I can see why people are acting the way they do - I have some personal reasons for disliking what is happening.

Posted by: [/i] An Observation at May 27, 2013 06:44 AM (ylhEn)

106 The biggest threat to our fighting men and women is not bombs, or planes, or missiles, or tanks, but politicians. Myopic, greedy, and stupid politicians. Never looking ahead, never thinking about more than what is best for them, never caring at all. Who puts these men and women into office and why do they think the way they do? We must do more than honor the sacrifices made. We must fight the fools and criminals who cause it in the first place.

Posted by: eman at May 27, 2013 06:47 AM (cQ4xo)

107 Like JJ, I'm not interested in a squabble today.

When you add to it that money increasingly drives research more than scientific curiosity, you can see why people want iron-clad proof of every new claim.
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti

I wish it were so that people had wanted iron-clad proof in the past. The poison fruit of AGW is that many thinking people will become disillusioned with science and scientists as it turns out they were misled for ideology or lucre.

Posted by: pep at May 27, 2013 06:52 AM (6TB1Z)

108 A question, if I may.

How do I, a Canadian, considering myself to be a respectful friend of the US, offer my wishes to my US friends on this day.

"Happy Memorial Day" just seems wrong on EVERY level.

Best I could do was "Memorial Day Wishes", which sounds like I work for Hallmark.

There isn't really a Canadian equivalent. As I understand it, we sort of lump Veteran's Day and Memorial Day together and call it Remembrance Day -- which makes it a bit of a different animal.

Anyhow, I'd like to get his right (insofar as there is a "right") and to wish my US friends the best and let them know I'm thinking respectful thoughts on this day.

Suggestions?

Posted by: pjf at May 27, 2013 07:01 AM (e4wW9)

109 If their data is good, they can get it published.

Cold fusion is not impossible, but obviously it ain't easy.

And since the experiments are so simple you don't need big bucks to fund it. You could do it in your basement.

in facts folks have been doing experiments very much like cold fusion experiments for decades. Where are the reports of unusually high energy outputs?[\i]

The most repeatable form of cold fusion experiment was developed in Japan IIRC. The researcher put palladium dust into high pressure Deuterium gas (about 5000 PSI). The pressure evidently forces the palladium into the correct high density configuration, and the gas cylinder heats up and stays hot. Other experimenters have found approximately the correct amount of helium gas in the cylinder to account for the heat produced.

The cold fusion research community has been forced to create their own publications for publishing research due to he hostility they encounter from mainstream scientific journals.

Because of the stigma attached by the assumption of fraud there is almost zero research on the subject by mainstream science. No better way to get drummed out of mainstream science than to do cold fusion research! It has reached the point that mainstream science has a vested interest in insuring that cold fusion stays in its current status of being suspect, X-file, lunatic fringe activity.

Posted by: [/i] An Observation at May 27, 2013 07:03 AM (ylhEn)

110 pjf,
Taking the time to acknowledge the debt owed to those who died defending our country is more than sufficient. How you do that doesn't really matter.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 27, 2013 07:04 AM (1hekh)

111 God Bless our fallen heroes.

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52 The Google page that opens first actually has a flag and a yellow ribbon today, but they are so small, it is clear to me the intent.

Fuckers.

Posted by: Hunker down and L.I.B. at May 27, 2013 07:04 AM (Cs2tJ)

112 Crap only my signature safety keeps me out of my dyslexia induced trip to the barrel.

Posted by: [/i] An Observation at May 27, 2013 07:04 AM (ylhEn)

113 I agree, pjf. Speaking as one who has not served and knows no one who was killed in combat, "Happy Memorial Day" just doesn't sound right. Because of the above, I've been reading these threads but not commenting much, because I simply don't have much to say, except thanks.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2013 07:06 AM (sdi6R)

114 110 PJF,

Reflective Memorial Day tidings...?

I do appreciate you nodding your head towards our day I always reflect on yours.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 27, 2013 07:06 AM (LRFds)

115

Our position as the worldÂ’s leading superpower has been earned through hard work, determination, guts, and ingenuity. ItÂ’s maintained and preserved by those sworn to protect and defend it.

Their contributions were and are immeasurable. From Valley Forge to the war against Islamofascist terrorism, Americans can sleep well knowing that their Soldiers are at the frontlines.

My Grandfather fought in World War II. I enlisted in the United States Army the year he officially retiredÂ—1976. It was a symbolic changing of the guard and I was proud to follow in the footsteps of his combat boots. Until I retired in 2006, I had the privilege of serving in peace and war, with some of the finest people ever to wear the uniform. Some of them did not come home, and I will never forget them.

With apologies to Rupert Brooke:

If I should die, think only this of me:
That thereÂ’s some corner of a foreign field
That is for ever America.

A big salute to all the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard veterans, as well as those still serving.

While youÂ’re enjoying your bar-b-que and beer, take a moment to remember those who gave their lives so that you can enjoy this day in peace.
Try to attend your local Memorial Day parade, stop by your VFW or American Legion, and hoist a few drinks in memory of our fallen comrades.

Duty, Honor, Country

HOOAH!

SFC MAC

Posted by: SFC MAC at May 27, 2013 07:09 AM (TLbgU)

116 pjf, rickl, You're both doing just fine if you ask me.

Posted by: shredded chi at May 27, 2013 07:18 AM (TwyVT)

117 Posted by: An Observation at May 27, 2013 11:03 AM (ylhEn) Your post has not moved us one inch closer to knowing if cold fusion works.

Posted by: eman at May 27, 2013 07:26 AM (cQ4xo)

118 Oh, and by the way, I'm not a cold fusion researcher, and other than my NASA contact I don't know any.

Posted by: [/i] An Observation at May 27, 2013 07:35 AM (ylhEn)

119 Don't know if any of you saw the National Memorial Day concert last night on PBS. I know, I know - PBS???!!! Well I don't know whoever it was that okayed this thing, but it is flat out honoring the military. It probably is PBS' one thing they can point to and say, 'See, we are open to the idea that America might be an okay place'. The concert has been hosted by Gary Sinise and Joe Montagna for quite a few years. I loves me my Sinise but had not realized that Montagna is prolly very conservative also. Last night the two of them did a dramatic reading as 2 real Pennsylvania brothers who joined the National Guard in the early 2000s and ended up doing multiple tours of the Middle East. The older brother ended up having real PTSD and despite getting some help, he committed suicide a couple of years ago. After the reading, they showed the living brother and the widow (with her kids) in the audience. Jeff and Gary went out to hug them while a great vocal was sung. The music was phenomenal - lots of rousing military tunes along with beautiful inspirational numbers. The only off-putting thing for me was Colin Powell, but you can't have everything. There was also a segment devoted to actor Charles Durning, who died this past year. They replayed the times that he had spoke at this concert and reviewed how amazing his military career had been. The last thing showed was his funeral at Arlington. Amazing man. I'm also pretty sure that "Mansions of The Lord" was sung. I can only assume that PBS will be replaying this concert more than a couple of times. If any of you can stomach PBS for awhile, I'm pretty sure this thing would be Moron-Approved.

Posted by: dwagyak at May 27, 2013 07:37 AM (R/7Zf)

120 Your post has not moved us one inch closer to knowing if cold fusion works.

My posts were put up to show that - even if cold fusion works - we wouldn't know it and that is all they were meant to do.

Posted by: [/i] An Observation at May 27, 2013 07:42 AM (ylhEn)

121

110 pjf,

Just taking time to remember is enough.

You might be aware that the U.S. Army and Canadian Army formed an elite combined commando unit in WW 2 called the First Special Service Force. Most commonly called "The Devil's Brigade" and "The Black Devils" that unit is the direct forerunner of the U.S. Special Forces and the Canadian Special Forces.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 27, 2013 07:42 AM (PBm/l)

122 Andy thanks from me for all the excellent work you did this weekend! H.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 27, 2013 08:11 AM (Cnqmv)

123 Today I remember Kenneth Janusik, a great guy, a good sailor and my friend, he died on board the USS Stark many years ago.

he gave his life for mine although neither of us knew it at the time.

Ken and I attended the same "A" school in the spring of 1986 at Damn Neck Va., I finished slightly ahead of Ken in the class rankings, the class received a pool of orders and everyone got to choose their orders based on class rank, when it came time for me to choose I picked the orders that would have sent me to the Stark a few turns later Ken picked orders that would have sent him to the Carl Vinson which was based on the west coast, the Stark was based in Florida, Ken was from Clearwater and wanted to be close to his family so when all the picking was over he came to me asked if I would trade orders with him, not being particularly attached to any location I said "yes"

it is the very least I can do to remember him on this day and tell people was a good person he was, I have to.

Posted by: Shoey at May 27, 2013 08:13 AM (m6OUa)

124

Palladium has 16 atomic structures and that only the density of one of those structures was high enough to support the reaction they observed.

Palladium has no allotropes, which from context is presumably what you meant by "atomic structures."

So, no dice. In any case, the burden of proof is on those making the assertion, in this case Fleischmann and Pons, and that burden they have singularly failed to carry thus far.

Now, could we get back to Memorial Day? Thanks.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 27, 2013 08:19 AM (IDSI7)

125 83 Fot those who have never been to a Battlefield National Park I recommend four. Gettysburg, PA. Antietam, MD. Manassas, VA. Little Big Horn, MT. All four look very similar today as they would have looked when the battles took place. But try to avoid going on the anniversaries of the battles. May I add Vicksburg and her importance to the cause. Then drive to the local cemetary. On my way to the national cemetary here in Salisbury,NC May God bless them all.

Posted by: Kentucky Kid at May 27, 2013 08:57 AM (4Vt8I)

126 So, no dice. In any case, the burden of proof is on those making the assertion, in this case Fleischmann and Pons, and that burden they have singularly failed to carry thus far.

As I said I have no interest in arguing with anyone.

I will note that "skepticism" is always a safe and easy path - when skeptics are proven horribly wrong - as they were in the case of the Wright brothers - there is no cost to their reputations. They are not forced to wear dunce caps or ridiculed in the press for being fools and frauds as their victims - the Wright brothers - were.

Instead "skeptics" prosper. Note however that no "skeptic" has ever advanced scientific knowledge by so much as one Angstrom by being "skeptical". Skepticism is not science; it is a way for a person to gain an illusion of power by taking on the trappings of science.

For example when a physicist pontificates that something is impossible because it defies the known laws of physics - he is talking out of his ass. No physicist studies the unreal or the impossible - his study is of the real and the known possible. The unreal and the impossible are subjects he has never studied and about which he literally knows nothing; which is the very definition of talking out of one's ass.

Posted by: [/i] An Observation at May 27, 2013 08:58 AM (ylhEn)

127 Posted by: An Observation at May 27, 2013 12:58 PM (ylhEn) Poppycock.

Posted by: eman at May 27, 2013 09:10 AM (cQ4xo)

128 I see I've receive a fair amount of flack for my posts. Of course there is an old military saying: when you're receiving flack - it means you're over the target.

Posted by: [/i] An Observation at May 27, 2013 09:54 AM (ylhEn)

129 The case finally collapsed when the Wright Brothers had an airplane good enough that they could fly it over a city - where thousands of people saw it.

Whereas it's been two and a half decades since Pons and Fleischmann, and palladium-voodoo cold fusion still powers a grand total of nothing.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 27, 2013 10:14 AM (irlNU)

130 From the Maine monument at the national cemetery in Salisbury,NC. Site of Confederate prison: To live in the hearts we live behind, Is not to die

Posted by: Kentucky Kid at May 27, 2013 10:42 AM (4Vt8I)

131 I moved to Israel back in 2004 and here Memorial Day (Yom HaZicharon) is a big deal. At 10:00 am the sirens go off all over the country (including on the radio and TV) and everything stops... people pull off the road on the highway and get out of their cars...the entire country comes to a halt and stands at attention in memory of those who served and died...when I lived in the States I would go to the parades and the memorials, but it wasn't the same somehow...maybe because its so much closer to the bone here, smaller country, universal draft, it could have been my kid, or my cousin's/neighbor's kid...I don't know... but I really do wish/want/pray that someday that in the good old USA our soldiers get that same level of respect. That for just one minute in a year, everything comes to a halt, everything. I think that that is the greatest respect that can be paid....

Posted by: John at May 27, 2013 02:10 PM (8kAfk)

132 Too many patriots, not enough tyrants.

Posted by: samuelrylander at May 28, 2013 07:01 AM (bbRnk)

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