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November 29, 2013

Michael "Piltdown" Mann melts down at HuffPo
— Purple Avenger

There's really no way to describe this screed other than a meltdown.

Its EPIC. You can almost feel the fleckspittle flying out of the screen at you. He's losing it.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 09:09 AM | Comments (104)
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1 STUFFED!

Posted by: YIKES1 at November 29, 2013 09:11 AM (mETGQ)

2 Is this the thread where we complain about the football pick um ?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 29, 2013 09:11 AM (R8hU8)

3 He's quoting USA Today as his source for backing him up?? Hahahahahhaa...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 29, 2013 09:12 AM (b/lt+)

4 He should be losing it. He has been spewing lies for years, and the chickens are coming back to roost. I'm not even going to dignify his angry screed with a glance.

Posted by: runningrn at November 29, 2013 09:12 AM (PLOz8)

5 How far to the left does one have to be to think that NY Times is too far to the right? These people truly are insane.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 29, 2013 09:12 AM (0LHZx)

6 Mann deserves far, far worse than he's gotten.

Posted by: JEM at November 29, 2013 09:14 AM (o+SC1)

7 He's quoting USA Today as his source for backing him up?? **** Just like Obama and his minions plant a stories in the press and quote them as validations of whatever.

Posted by: Jason Carter at November 29, 2013 09:14 AM (MhA4j)

8 Halllloooooooooooo

Posted by: pep at November 29, 2013 09:15 AM (6TB1Z)

9 He does get his book plug in though.. probably the main reason for writing this claptrap..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 29, 2013 09:16 AM (b/lt+)

10 He really is a nutcase.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 29, 2013 09:16 AM (Iyg03)

11 Here today, gone tomorrow! Who turned out the lights?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at November 29, 2013 09:17 AM (6fSty)

12 Personally, I have always enjoyed his movies. "Thief", "Heat", "Collateral", all good. I knew he did some of his movie music, I had no idea he was a scientist as well.

Posted by: nip at November 29, 2013 09:17 AM (jI23+)

13 He's losing it.

I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. Demille.

Posted by: Michael Mann at November 29, 2013 09:17 AM (6TB1Z)

14 He is not a 'nutcase'. I'm not sure if he's actually crooked or if he's just a peg-the-meter case of pathological altruism. He does, however, live within a bubble that reinforces his personal belief in his own rectitude, and he doesn't much like having people try to poke holes in that bubble.

Posted by: JEM at November 29, 2013 09:19 AM (o+SC1)

15 Like a explosive used to start up a rocket engine, all Mann thinks he need do to get the audience revved up is mention the Kochs. With that perfunctory statement, he is off and running screeding away for all he is worth. Harrumph, harrumph and, for good measure, harrumph! IPCC! Washington Post! Science is Settled! And harrumph! What a bozo. Scientific process and debate is entirely his enemy, and he is nearly open about saying so. He is anti-science almost.

Posted by: MYF at November 29, 2013 09:20 AM (vZNbm)

16 You can almost see the grant money flying away out of his pockets, and fleeing the institutions that preach this horseshit. Oh, yeah, "Koch Brothers!!" Suck it Mann. Realistically, this will end up being a dog whistle to get the NY Times back on the warmist reservation. Classic Alinsky tactics: Isolate, villify etc...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 29, 2013 09:20 AM (CcNYi)

17 I liked Miami Vice.

Posted by: EC at November 29, 2013 09:20 AM (doBIb)

18 Why does Purp hate Science so?

Posted by: t-bird at November 29, 2013 09:21 AM (FcR7P)

19 It's not just Mann.

Read the comments.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 29, 2013 09:21 AM (fwARV)

20 Philip Michael Thomas is underrated.

Posted by: nip at November 29, 2013 09:22 AM (jI23+)

I would have gotten away with it too...if it wasn't for you meddling KOCH BROTHERS!!!

Posted by: Michael Mann at November 29, 2013 09:23 AM (BrQrN)

22 I never saw the movie Happy Feet, but those penguins are sure cute. I may have to watch it.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 29, 2013 09:23 AM (Xlbr8)

23 My Mann, what about your Hockey Stick gaffes?

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 29, 2013 09:23 AM (42YMD)

24 What a spaz.

Posted by: wooga at November 29, 2013 09:24 AM (uac1w)

25 I'm reading the comments, pure loony gold. Perhaps the thread winner.... "Yet another example ... of the subversion of our critical Fourth Estate,(by the Koch Brothersemphasis mine) most bought-up and subverted to propaganda machines. We The People rely on the press and journalists to truthfully and fully inform us to enable us to make decisions based on fact rather than supposition, lies or deception. When the NYT betrays the basic principle to truthfully and fully inform, it is a sad and dangerous indictment. When they knowingly provide a forum and platform for intentionally false information by known agents of deception and great wealth, that should be seen as a criminal betrayal and failure. " are you F'ing kidding me?

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 29, 2013 09:24 AM (MhA4j)

26 Mann did make one statement in his article that I wholeheartedly agree with, and I will quote it in its entirety: "Shame on you New York Times."

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 29, 2013 09:24 AM (7ObY1)

27 If the grant money dries up he may be reduced to teaching remedial algebra at the local CC for incoming freshmen

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 29, 2013 09:25 AM (Xlbr8)

28 But, but, but the science *is* settled!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 29, 2013 09:25 AM (JRmiD)

The media is owned by KKKorporashuns. KKKORPORASHUNS are right wing!!!

REICH-WING MEDIA!!!!!!!!!!

*licks window*

*fucks couch*

Posted by: Huffington Post Super User at November 29, 2013 09:27 AM (BrQrN)

30 How dare you question a Nobel Prize laureate! And I should know as I was TIME's Man of the Year in 2006!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at November 29, 2013 09:28 AM (ZyZIo)

31 Oh, no!!! Russia freed the Greenpeace terorists!

Posted by: The commenting software at November 29, 2013 09:28 AM (kkbgQ)

32 "Piltdown" Mann is the one Mann-themed pun that jazz flautist/saxist Herbie Mann's record label never used as an album title.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 29, 2013 09:28 AM (7ObY1)

33 27. My god, have you seen the female math students? They won't fall for my bullshit.

Posted by: Micheal Mann at November 29, 2013 09:29 AM (42YMD)

34 If I wanted to read the NYT comments, I could go talk to my father. Good times.

Posted by: nip at November 29, 2013 09:30 AM (jI23+)

35 Penn State should be as proud of this cocksucker as they are of Sandusky. Impressive institution of higher learnin' imo.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 29, 2013 09:30 AM (upPmh)

36 I used to go back and forth with a warmist on another site. I gleaned he was a prof. at a big state uni. in Texas, and utterly dependent on grant money. He would fucking lose it when anyone pointed that out to him. These ideologues really believe they are the secular saviors of Gaia, and are worth every penny of the money they didn't earn.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 29, 2013 09:30 AM (CcNYi)

37 The butthurt is strong with this one.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 29, 2013 09:31 AM (UAMVq)

38 "... author of The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars: Dispatches from the Front Lines (now available in paperback with a new guest foreword by Bill Nye "The Science Guy")"

Ah, yes, Mr. Nye's greatest claim to fame was inventing a pair of ballet slippers which rocketed him to fame on Dancing with the Stars. One of our best.

Posted by: Marvin the Rocket Scientist at November 29, 2013 09:31 AM (KQp38)

39 Hey, baby, want to see my hockey stick?

Posted by: Michael Mann at November 29, 2013 09:32 AM (UAMVq)

40 Penn State should be as proud of this cocksucker as they are of Sandusky. Impressive institution of higher learnin' imo.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 29, 2013 01:30 PM (upPmh)

We are precisely as proud of Mann as we are of Sandusky.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 29, 2013 09:32 AM (fwARV)

41 Bill Nye "The ~~Science~~ Bottom Guy"

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 29, 2013 09:32 AM (MhA4j)

The money shot wad when he claimed the Huffington Post ran an objective piece.

I guess they don't teach the meaning of words at Climate Alarmist School.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 29, 2013 09:34 AM (8XXcf)

43 Trust in Mann.

http://youtu.be/769rm_PZpIA

Posted by: 13times at November 29, 2013 09:37 AM (fGPLK)

44 Oh Fortune! Heal the wounds in my soul! The death of my hero! Shall Gaia suffer eternal? My tears fall and burn the verdant pasture.

Posted by: Manbearpig at November 29, 2013 09:37 AM (6jI2x)

45 The Nobel prize claim was interesting. He really though no one would call him on it ?

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 29, 2013 09:37 AM (SUKHu)

46 Odd that he never mentions that even Briffa gently, and with the utmost respect, suggested that maybe he'd kinda ~~lied his ass off~~ "fibbed" a bit about that tree ring shit his whole hockey stick hinged on.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 29, 2013 09:38 AM (Xlbr8)

47 Shorter Michael Mann.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEStsLJZhzo

Posted by: huerfano at November 29, 2013 09:38 AM (bAGA/)

48 Shorter Mann:
Untrained journalists who support me = Rock solid, baby!!
Untrained journalists who *dare* to disagree with me = Must be stopped from misinforming others with their ignorant stories

Posted by: Lizzy at November 29, 2013 09:38 AM (JRmiD)

Teh penguins should be wearing little stompy-boots, no?

Alex?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at November 29, 2013 09:39 AM (6fSty)

50 Mann's real problem is he is on the hook for a buttload of carbon credits he got of a Nigerian Finance Minister on the internet.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 29, 2013 09:39 AM (8XXcf)

51 He's suing Mark Steyn and others over it too, Mama AJ, and for supposedly likening him to the pederast, Sandusky.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at November 29, 2013 09:40 AM (ZyZIo)

52 Global warming is Mann made. Follow the money.

Posted by: deepred at November 29, 2013 09:40 AM (RHYM4)

53 And people actually listen to this crackpot?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 29, 2013 09:40 AM (8ZskC)

54 Yay! My style guide change proposal was accepted! Thanks Purp!

Posted by: J. Random Dude at November 29, 2013 09:40 AM (8OfdL)

55 I SEE KOCH BROTHERS!!!!!!11!1!1111eleventy1!1!!!!!

Posted by: Michael Mann at November 29, 2013 09:41 AM (8ZskC)

56 Damn that New York Times and its racist far-right wing nutbag politics. Damn them to hell ....

Posted by: The really crazy left at November 29, 2013 09:42 AM (bS6uW)

57 Yes, J. Random Dude, I'll be using that from now on whenever I comment on Piltdown Mann. BTW, my online Firefox spellchecker gave the 'corrected' suggestion of "Meltdown" for "Piltdown". Ha-ha.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at November 29, 2013 09:42 AM (ZyZIo)

58 Dammit! A century late and a billion dollars short!

Posted by: Trofim Lysenko at November 29, 2013 09:43 AM (HjPtV)

59 The Koch brothers scared the global warming heat so badly that it ran away to the deep oceans to hide. The math is complicated, so I'll leave it out except to say it has squiggles and things that kinda look like pyramids. Deniers delenda est.

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2013 09:44 AM (AO9UG)

60 Mann should drink his hemlock and be done with it. He's just too good for this world.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 29, 2013 09:44 AM (bS6uW)

61 This is a joke right? Someone with rotten data still thinks any honest person believes the "Hockey Stick? I guess when you LIE you just keep LYING. He is a democrat, why are we surprised?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 29, 2013 09:44 AM (0FSuD)

62 Yep Mr. Canuck. Can you imagine the joy of finding out that someone who is suing you doesn't have the Nobel he says he has? (Still better if he wasn't suing, of course.)

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 29, 2013 09:44 AM (SUKHu)

63 Of course he doesn't think the NYT is right-wing, he just knows it will infuriate them to be so called and he hopes it will shame them into falling in line with his ongoing scam. Hell, they may have put him up to it, every time some far lefty calls a lefty a righty (in journalism), it gives them cover to move further left.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Somethingorother at November 29, 2013 09:45 AM (qyfb5)

64 Heh....Mann doesn't disagree with the quote, it's just that it doesn't pick up his ........ nuance. *facepalm*

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at November 29, 2013 09:47 AM (WHhAD)

65 Yeah Mann, it's too early to tell if those advanced climate models, none of 140 of them which can predict a g-ddamn thing, will be able to predict the impact on tornadoes. Yeah, go with that.

Seriously, he's defending the hockey stick? He's getting desperate alright.

I hope Mark Steyn and NRO pound his ass, legal wise, into oblivion.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 29, 2013 09:48 AM (cHZB7)

66 He blinded me with nUaNcE!!!!111!!!!1eLeBiNty!!!!!! Fucking. Ridiculous.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at November 29, 2013 09:48 AM (WHhAD)

67 I never saw the movie Happy Feet, but those penguins are sure cute. I may have to watch it.

Posted by: Purp at November 29, 2013 01:23 PM (Xlbr

Save yourself the aggravation. About 3/4 of the way through, they turn to full on eco-preaching. It's so abrupt and shameless that it is very discordant and ruins the whole damn thing.

Posted by: grognard at November 29, 2013 09:48 AM (/29Nl)

68 I still can't believe anyone takes this guy seriously anymore. I mean, if I put something a famous analysis into the literature based on some data I'd gathered, and someone told me they'd gotten the same outcome by feeding random noise to my algorithm, I'd be upset all right - at myself. I'd be grateful to the person who called it to my attention and gave me the chance to retract. Then I'd write a properly humble retraction, feeling all the while like Mrs. Litella (Never mind!). But he never did retract, apparently feeling that if the result is right it doesn't matter how you get there. To his supporters, those who object to this are anti-science.

Posted by: JPS at November 29, 2013 09:51 AM (9ziuC)

69 "Unprecedented" OK tornadoes, as his proof? Pathetic. Obviously, he has never been to OK in the springtime.

Posted by: NeverEvermore at November 29, 2013 09:51 AM (hRV3r)

70 We're surprised that our exacting mathematical calculations cannot account for nuance. Huh.

Posted by: No Scientist Ever at November 29, 2013 09:51 AM (WHhAD)

71 Maybe we can Alec Baldwin to do a dramatic reading. I hear he's available.

Posted by: blaster at November 29, 2013 09:52 AM (4+AaH)

72 >>He's suing Mark Steyn and others over it too, Mama AJ, and for supposedly likening him to the pederast, Sandusky. Posted by: andycanuck Discovery can be a bitch.

Posted by: Aviator at November 29, 2013 09:52 AM (DI+ja)

73 If the grant money dries up he may be reduced to teaching remedial algebra at the local CC for incoming freshmen

Posted by: Purp at November 29, 2013 01:25 PM (Xlbr

And Mann will have to fake his work in remedial algebra to get the right answers.

Posted by: tbodie at November 29, 2013 09:53 AM (TsudI)

74 I blame climate change for this Nebraska-Iowa game.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 29, 2013 09:54 AM (oFCZn)

75 I'd kick Bill Nye's ass.

Posted by: Beakman at November 29, 2013 09:55 AM (MMC8r)

76 The meme war continues. Control vs. Freedom. AGW is an attempt to control the use of fire. People and fire have been partners for a million years, and now that the modern use of fire has produced wealth and security that our ancestors couldn't even dream of the control freaks have made their move to use it against us. Mann is just a shitty little liar.

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2013 09:56 AM (AO9UG)

77 I am waiting for a part for my car to be delivered by UPS. Come on guys, this isn't a Christmas gift, need it so it will run! Today!

Posted by: blaster at November 29, 2013 10:00 AM (4+AaH)

78 don't worry Michael Mann massage the numbers some more and you'll turn that decline upside down.

Posted by: rich@gmu at November 29, 2013 10:00 AM (3yFC4)

79 So all he's got is ad hominem attacks? Way to handle science you cocksucker. He's destroying the field for all of us.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 29, 2013 10:02 AM (GaqMa)

80 UPenn Michael Mann is to actual science as Jerry Sandusky is to child welfare.

Posted by: Aviator at November 29, 2013 10:02 AM (DI+ja)

81 Mann can't stomach being mocked or being called a fraud.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 29, 2013 10:05 AM (ZPrif)

82 Man up, Mann.

Posted by: --- at November 29, 2013 10:06 AM (MMC8r)

83 When the models can successfully predict the data that came BEFORE the present day, I'll take Mann and the Warmistas seriously. Until then, prepare your anus for a deep, hard session of discovery Mikey.

Posted by: joncelli at November 29, 2013 10:07 AM (/AYWV)

84 Cooling trend? They completely missed it.

Posted by: --- at November 29, 2013 10:08 AM (MMC8r)

85 77 I am waiting for a part for my car to be delivered by UPS. Come on guys, this isn't a Christmas gift, need it so it will run! Today! Posted by: blaster at November 29, 2013 02:00 PM (4+AaH) I feel your pain, I am waiting for a 1000 rounds of 5.7 x 28 and a sign off is required. How much you want to bet, I take a nap and the fucker will show up half and hour into the nap.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 29, 2013 10:09 AM (0FSuD)

86 Data-mining for fun and profit! We make up shit, until the curve is a fit!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 29, 2013 10:10 AM (ZPrif)

87 So why might it be that the New York Times is so enamored with Muller, a retired physicist with no training in atmospheric or climate science, when it comes to the matter of climate change?

I discuss Muller's history as a climate change critic and his new-found role as a media favorite in my book "The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars" (the paperback was just released a couple weeks ago, with a new guest foreword by Bill Nye "The Science Guy").

How supremely unaware these assholes are.

Physicist? No, no, no. He's not trained in the science.

TV jackass who was once a QC clerk at Boeing? SUPER QUALIFIED!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 29, 2013 10:19 AM (yFFxo)

88 This Mann chap, (much like that Gore fellow), really is a hater of humanity. So much anger, so much angst.

The bile and bitterness should be sequestered.

Posted by: Fritz at November 29, 2013 10:22 AM (TKFmG)

89 test

Posted by: test at November 29, 2013 10:22 AM (CRY7r)

90 Too late as usual. I'd just like to point out that Mann in a previous book already told us in his own words- that what he's doing isn't science: http://naturalfake.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/fruit-of-the-poison-tree-tarts-from-the-poison-fruit/

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 29, 2013 10:29 AM (CRY7r)

91 Michael Mann? Never heard of him.

Posted by: Nobel Prize Committee at November 29, 2013 10:32 AM (K2XO3)

92 He's been playing with that hockey stick too many times, and I don't mean to slap pucks around.

Posted by: Felix Steiner at November 29, 2013 10:42 AM (32lOI)

93 Mann thinks that the number and intensity of tornadoes will increase, but he also says that observational data about these two predictions are unreliable. He asserts therefore that we must rely on "physical reasoning" instead. But he and Muller have reasoned and come to different conclusions, what's a scientist supposed to do? In real science, you test a theory against observation, if the observation is impossible, or not currently able to be done, then all you have are two interesting theories, nothing more. From 1949 till 1965 there were two major theories of how the universe began: The big bang theory and the steady state theory. The majority of physicists and astronomers held to the BBT, and a minority held to the SST. The 1965 discovery of the background microwave radiation killed the SST, because that theory had no good way to explain it, whereas it was predicted by the BBT. Were Fred Hoyle, Hermann Bondi, and Thomas Gold, the main architects of the SST then considered to be cranks, contrarians, and in the pocket of the Koch Bros.? Of course not, this is how science works. Observation, not popularity, decides the issue. Ditto for Kepler's predecessors: Brahe, Copernicus, and Ptolemy, re: the solar system. Also ditto for Newton when Einstien's theory of gravity could better explain observations. Mann may be right about AGW, but currently it's just a lot of hand waving. That Muller's source of funding is evil, but Mann's isn't is stupid: They're both getting paid to produce the results their backers want.

Posted by: jbarntt at November 29, 2013 10:50 AM (UNFot)

94 A "nuance" went through and broke a tree in our yard- 30 years ago. There is other data such as the measuring of "cold" rather than hot. That data makes me buy long johns. You can make a house to survive an avalanche but not to survive a glacier. Prepare for the Canadian invasion.

Posted by: Igotnothing at November 29, 2013 11:00 AM (4Gb8Z)

95 93-Can I have my 45 seconds back please? Started strong, then closed with weakness.

Posted by: nip at November 29, 2013 11:02 AM (jI23+)

96 What do expect from a guy who couldn't land a job at The Weather Channel. He is Jim Cantore's bitch and the butthurt never went away. Butthat he attempts to make the assertion that the Koch brothers control the NYT proves what an unhinged moonbat he really is.

Posted by: Penfold at November 29, 2013 11:04 AM (xmZmI)

97 There's a lot more money on the AGW Scam Train than there is standing in its way. Buckets of gummint money, subisidies, grants, and power and control.

Posted by: --- at November 29, 2013 11:05 AM (MMC8r)

98 Here's a short but very enlightening video explaining why the concept of "sea level" is hideously complex:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q65O3qA0-n4

Next time a warmista hits you with "rising sea levels", you'll be well armed .

And if you spend time at wattsupwiththat.com, you will learn that the precision of satellites used to measure "sea level" is only about ten cm, so claims of mm changes in sea level are utterly bogus---such changes are beyond the capacity of the instruments, AND "sea level" at any particular place is never static, so local differences over time don't measure global changes.

Posted by: Hari Seldon at November 29, 2013 11:13 AM (iD/v0)

99 So... The world is really warm now, warmer than ever.... Yet he's not calling it Global Warming anymore?

Posted by: Mega at November 29, 2013 12:44 PM (4/o9U)

100 99 So... The world is really warm now, warmer than ever.... Yet he's not calling it Global Warming anymore? But it is not.

Posted by: Davod at November 29, 2013 01:27 PM (dj3iF)

101 Although Mann seems to hate everyone (man-made climate change), why is he handing a sledgehammer to the 'evil' insurance industry? By implying their losses will rise in Tornado Alley, those Fat Cats will certainly raise premiums... Mann's an ass. Oh, and the 'Grey Lady' is a b*tch.

Posted by: Socalcon at November 29, 2013 10:15 PM (K6CHr)

102 "Physical Reasoning" : The Science of the 'Gut Feel'?

Posted by: Socalcon at November 29, 2013 10:22 PM (K6CHr)

103 I dunno guys. I think Mann's on to something. Because, if there's anyone who knows ANYTHING about completely bullshitting his way through the field of climate science, it's Michael Mann.

Posted by: Stewed Hamm at November 29, 2013 11:11 PM (kQkvK)

104 I never sign into those freaking sites that want access to my shit, so I will comment on the ridiculousness here.
Michael Mann- The IPCC conducts no research. It interprets data. Therefore, I believe I would rather use information that can be replicated, and validated, period. Anyone can interpret the data to mean what they want. Until one can use the scientific method, well pontification and bloviation on your part is not acceptable.

Posted by: DefendUSA at November 30, 2013 02:15 AM (nAHMK)

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