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April 19, 2013

MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, RIP
— Ace

The first cop killed by the terrorists last night.

WHAT? The story had been that the terrorists robbed a 7/11, and this is what drew police attention.

Now they're saying there was no 7/11 robbery. I think.

I really don't know. I feel so stupid, sitting here "blogging news" when I have no idea what the news is.

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1 News conference: The perp gave the cops the slip.

Posted by: navybrat at April 19, 2013 02:16 PM (t1VIV)

2 first

Posted by: assault flounder at April 19, 2013 02:16 PM (Kkt/i)

3 RIP and one hopes his brothers bring swift justice to the vermin which murdered him.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at April 19, 2013 02:17 PM (KCvsd)

4 R.I.P. indeed

Posted by: Yip at April 19, 2013 02:17 PM (/jHWN)

5 bahh!

Posted by: assault flounder at April 19, 2013 02:17 PM (Kkt/i)

6 Sorry, but I can't make it to Boston. for the funeral.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at April 19, 2013 02:17 PM (ypzqs)

7 Just curious was this MIT cop armed?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2013 02:17 PM (jE38p)

8 soooo, they didn't stick up the 7-11 after all. Hmmm. How much info we've heard all day is a BS?

Posted by: Yip at April 19, 2013 02:17 PM (/jHWN)

9 I read they shot the officer in his vehicle... never had chance to draw his weapon

Posted by: Yip at April 19, 2013 02:18 PM (/jHWN)

10 8 hrs, no progress

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 19, 2013 02:18 PM (ZPrif)

11 They just happened to be getting cash at the 7-11 about the same time as a robbery?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 19, 2013 02:19 PM (ZPrif)

12 I read that his Brother works at Hendrick Motorsports as a machinist, the NASCAR team of Jimmie Johnson, Dale jr, Jeff Gordon, and Kasey Kahne.

Posted by: Dan at April 19, 2013 02:19 PM (bxp5Z)

13 #7 MIT has an accredited police department and all its officers are armed. Most universities in Boston have accredited police departments with armed officers and no rent-a-cop security guards.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at April 19, 2013 02:19 PM (KCvsd)

14 You fucked up. You trusted us.

Posted by: Otter Stream Media at April 19, 2013 02:20 PM (QF8uk)

15 Yeah, I was reading that the carjack hostage escaped at the 7-11 rather than it was a robbery attempt. It will be days before we have a clue of what really happened in all this.

Posted by: toby928© at April 19, 2013 02:20 PM (QupBk)

16 RIP.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 19, 2013 02:20 PM (sA52w)

17 --I feel so stupid, sitting here "blogging news" when I have no idea what the news is.--

Don't feel stupid, Ace. The media doesn't know what the news is, either, and they don't feel stupid at all.

Posted by: antisocialist at April 19, 2013 02:20 PM (eGr8Z)

So young, RIP.

Don't feel bad ace everything I've seen has that 7-11 story.

And that spotify ad is kinda creepy disgusting. Is she getting ready to kiss a guy or suck a cock?

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 19, 2013 02:20 PM (tVTLU)

19 Briefing right now on web says stick up was a coincidence, but these two didn't rob the store, but they were there near the time of the stickup. Weird.

Posted by: Yip at April 19, 2013 02:20 PM (/jHWN)

20 MIT has an accredited police department and all its officers are armed. Most universities in Boston have accredited police departments with armed officers and no rent-a-cop security guards. Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at April 19, 2013 06:19 PM (KCvsd) Thanks. A real shame about this Officer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2013 02:20 PM (jE38p)

21 Shorter press conference: We know nothing and haven't made any progress whatsoever in the last 8-12 hours

Posted by: The Q at April 19, 2013 02:21 PM (XQzGn)

22 MIT cop. Worst thing he should have ever dealt with was drunk kids with 150 IQs.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 19, 2013 02:21 PM (5wHPS)

23 Most of the big schools campus security is real cops.

Posted by: Knave at April 19, 2013 02:21 PM (cipri)

24 So one of the guys that murdered him could have been deported 2 years ago. here are some of the crimes people can commit, and then be granted citizenship afterwards, or at least the legal right to be here. Drug distribution Assault with a Deadly Weapon Illegal Entry Forgery Multiple deportations Attempted Murder None of those are bars to fucking citizenship it seems like. Our government is asking for this shit.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at April 19, 2013 02:22 PM (++kZl)

25 See my cool track suit?

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 19, 2013 02:22 PM (5wHPS)

26 8 soooo, they didn't stick up the 7-11 after all. Hmmm. How much info we've heard all ~~day~~ week is a BS? Posted by: Yip at April 19, 2013 06:17 PM (/jHWN) FIFY. Also, Pamela Geller's article on Breitbart is worth reading: http://tinyurl.com/d4mk4wg

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at April 19, 2013 02:22 PM (Qxe/p)

27 The news is he got clean away.They have no idea where he is or if he has a vehicle.Great job!

Posted by: steevy at April 19, 2013 02:22 PM (dBYCN)

28 I read they shot the officer in his vehicle... never had chance to draw his weapon

They THOUGHT he had spotted them and knew who they were. That busted all of their plans and they reacted.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2013 02:22 PM (d0Dmj)

RE: the prior thread-

The difference between a hero and a coward lies in the morality or immorality of the acts performed.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 19, 2013 02:22 PM (pxDth)

30 Ace pretty much the only possibility for "moron news net" would be an approved guild of morons to act as scanner watchers with a semi formal log style here and you or a cob acting as brain and sorter.... Just a nyquil addled thought

Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2013 02:22 PM (LRFds)

It's a hell of a thing, murdering a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.

Posted by: 13times at April 19, 2013 02:22 PM (h6XiD)

32 There is no h in diversity?

Posted by: Knave at April 19, 2013 02:22 PM (cipri)

33 The shot him up big time and then took his weapon. He never had a chance.

Posted by: waldo at April 19, 2013 02:22 PM (y2XjR)

34 I really don't know. I feel so stupid, sitting here "blogging news" when I have no idea what the news is. Posted by: Ace at 06:15 PM So, basically you're saying you could do the same job as the MFM?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 19, 2013 02:23 PM (qyfb5)

35 This might or might not be the time to point this out, but terrorists tend to be secular and pursue purely-secular goals (even in Northern Ireland). They're jihadis.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 19, 2013 02:23 PM (sA52w)

36 I think it must have been that they let the carjacked guy go at the 7-11.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 19, 2013 02:23 PM (wZbqz)

37 RIP and one hopes his brothers bring swift justice to the vermin which murdered him.

Which is why I said this morning that he'd best hope the feds grab him. BPD won't be so forgiving.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2013 02:23 PM (d0Dmj)

38 Don't feel bad Ace, the Media hasn't decided what the story is yet, so the info is garbled. Seriously. Think about it. When the story is detrimental to the Right, they're all spot on and crystal clear. A middle of the road or detrimental to the Left story? Clusterfuck.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 19, 2013 02:23 PM (OgsnV)

39 Yeah, they just mentioned another pressure cooker bomb. I had heard that during the gun battle, they through it at the cops.

Posted by: waldo at April 19, 2013 02:24 PM (y2XjR)

40 557 Does anyone else think this cop looks like Luca Brasi? Yes. So he's still in MA? How the fuck do they know? Clearly this guy has help. He walked away from the car? They can't find him? He's dead or gone. 200 rounds fired and they didn't hit him. Back to the range fuckers for a little practice.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 19, 2013 02:24 PM (wR+pz)

41 How do you lose a guy who was shooting at a bunch of cops.

Posted by: Shonuff at April 19, 2013 02:24 PM (jo0fs)

42 We need a drone attack on the Inspire editorial board in Yemen.

Posted by: waldo at April 19, 2013 02:24 PM (y2XjR)

24So one of the guys that murdered him could have been deported 2 years ago. here are some of the crimes people can commit, and then be granted citizenship afterwards, or at least the legal right to be here.

Drug distribution
Assault with a Deadly Weapon
Illegal Entry
Forgery
Multiple deportations
Attempted Murder

None of those are bars to fucking citizenship it seems like. Our government is asking for this shit.

Don't worry, I'm sure Police unions will show the Democratic party how upset they are with the party's position on immigration by not contributing bajillions of dollars.

Posted by: alittleenglish at April 19, 2013 02:24 PM (IAajI)

44 "I feel so stupid, sitting here "blogging news" when I have no idea what the news is." That just makes you Pulitzer qualified.

Posted by: USA at April 19, 2013 02:24 PM (RIg+t)

45 car jacking at 7-11 parking lot thats what cop responded to, I think

Posted by: thunderb at April 19, 2013 02:25 PM (Ivw5/)

46 If the JEF hadn't diverted security resources for his grief porn yesterday, which must have been a logistical nightmare, this brave person might still be alive. If I knew or was related to him, I'd be going out of my fucking mind with rage.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 19, 2013 02:25 PM (jhvW+)

47 38 BC1981, Dead on actually.... Which is why for the best chance at wholesome fresh fruit go to the tree.... See my 30

Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2013 02:25 PM (LRFds)

48 How do you lose a guy who was shooting at a bunch of cops.

By him throwing bombs and shooting at you.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2013 02:25 PM (d0Dmj)

49 29 RE: the prior thread-

The difference between a hero and a coward lies in the morality or immorality of the acts performed.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 19, 2013 06:22 PM
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A topic of debate for centuries. Many, many Brits took oaths of passivism after WW I . Once the bombs began falling on London during WW II, they rethought things.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2013 02:25 PM (aDwsi)

50 I was told the War on Womyn was the most important thing in the last election

Posted by: thunderb at April 19, 2013 02:26 PM (Ivw5/)

51 New York Times Shows Sympathy For Boston TerroristsÂ… They only killed an 8-year-old boy and three other people. Via Daily Caller: A New York Times feature story on the suspected Boston terrorists showed Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in a sympathetic light, with the headline Â“Far From War-Torn Homeland, Trying To Fit InÂ” and a black-and-white picture of one of the men. The New York Times: Far from war-torn homeland, trying to fit in. (Screenshot by TheDCÂ’s Jim Treacher. Seen above) The sympathetic portrayal of the men Â— who murdered three civilians, including a child, wounded 180 people, murdered one unsuspecting police officer and wounded another officer Â— was met with quick condemnation on social media networks. And now they have also killed at least on Police Officer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2013 02:26 PM (jE38p)

52 "blogging news when I have no idea what the news is"... makes you Pulitzer qualified.

What wins Pulitzers is blogging Communist press-releases when you know the news is the opposite

Posted by: Walter D. at April 19, 2013 02:26 PM (QTHTd)

53 New Bedford??

Posted by: waldo at April 19, 2013 02:26 PM (y2XjR)

54 If the JEF hadn't diverted security resources for his grief porn yesterday, which must have been a logistical nightmare, this brave person might still be alive. I hadn't even considered that angle. Sucker of Cock.

Posted by: toby928© at April 19, 2013 02:26 PM (QupBk)

55 I still think this terrorist has "friends" and more will happen. The lone wolf meme is stupid. No way these two worked all this out alone. There is a support network of some sort, and even if they don't support what they did, they'll protect him from the cops if they can... that's my current thinking. Wrong you guys?

Posted by: Yip at April 19, 2013 02:26 PM (/jHWN)

56 RIP and one hopes his brothers bring swift justice to the vermin which murdered him.

Which is why I said this morning that he'd best hope the feds grab him. BPD won't be so forgiving.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2013 06:23 PM (d0Dmj)

As I said in the previous thread. Fuck him. Cut his head off and let him join his brother's head on a pike outside Fenway. And leave it there for a year

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 19, 2013 02:26 PM (HqXYa)

57 Take a break, Ace. Watch a movie and give us a review. No sense listening to rumor after rumor from a desperate increasingly meaning-less Press. We'll find out what happened later, IF the O'Bumbles Administration OKs the release.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 19, 2013 02:26 PM (ndlFj)

58 The punk is probably dead somewhere in the vicinity of the abandoned vehicle.

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 19, 2013 02:27 PM (BVkEs)

59 Regarding the MIT cop, they deal with a lot of jumpers, those MENSA members go out windows if they can' t keep up their 4.0.

Posted by: Madamex at April 19, 2013 02:27 PM (Tj05I)

60 God help the person or people who help this asshole.

Posted by: waldo at April 19, 2013 02:27 PM (y2XjR)

61 You have to report the news to find out what it is.

Posted by: Nazi Pelosi at April 19, 2013 02:27 PM (cipri)

62 Somebody said in a morning thread that they just hooked up with another Fidel at the 7-11 to get some cash after the $ Saudi got deported. Makes sense now.

Posted by: Golfman at April 19, 2013 02:27 PM (W9uTH)

63 By him throwing bombs and shooting at you. Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2013 06:25 PM (d0Dmj) So you are saying donut eating fat cops and their "elite" SWAT team can't fire under fire? Maybe they should call Camp Lejuine for some help.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 19, 2013 02:27 PM (wR+pz)

64 Odds on barry golfs this weekend?

Posted by: getonwithit at April 19, 2013 02:27 PM (MbeEN)

65 49 29
RE: the prior thread-

The difference between a hero and a coward lies in the morality or immorality of the acts performed.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 19, 2013 06:22 PM
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A topic of debate for centuries. Many, many Brits took oaths of passivism after WW I . Once the bombs began falling on London during WW II, they rethought things.

Agree. I get nervous when everyone agrees, and nobody challenges the CW.

Posted by: pep at April 19, 2013 02:27 PM (6TB1Z)

66 Given the younger brother escaped the police shoot-out on foot; given the two vehicles the brothers had resort to, the Honda and the Mercedes, have both been accounted for; given the number of hours that have passed since the shoot-out with the police, with no reports received by the police of more vehicles associated with theft or dead bodies; given the police report having fired over 200 rounds of high speed perp-stopper ammo into the vehicle; and given the other brother was hit multiple times ... I strongly suspect Suspect #2 holed up within a few blocks of the shoot-out, and didn't leave thereafter; and that if he's not dead already (of which there's a strong possibility he is), and if his hiding place is not found fairly soon, he'll be dead before this night is out.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at April 19, 2013 02:27 PM (21TJo)

67 58 The punk is probably dead somewhere in the vicinity of the abandoned vehicle.
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 19, 2013 06:27 PM
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Agreed

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2013 02:28 PM (aDwsi)

68 I've been away all day. It sounds like the whole day was one wild goose chase. Poor cops. They must be beat. So must you Ace. You were up till all hours blogging this for us while most of us were sleeping. I hope you call it's quits early today.

Posted by: L, elle at April 19, 2013 02:28 PM (0PiQ4)

"sitting here "blogging news" when I have no idea what the news is."

As others have pointed out, neither do those in the "news" business, as they have yet to decide on their story.

Pathetic.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage, previously known as Jess1 at April 19, 2013 02:28 PM (lbiWb)

70 45 "car jacking at 7-11 parking lot thats what cop responded to, I think"

Fox timeline says no - cop shot at 10:20, carjacking at 10:30

Posted by: The Q at April 19, 2013 02:28 PM (XQzGn)

71 Ironic horror. The Muslim pigs masquerading as Ivy league students targeted and murdered a man sworn to protect and serve - Ivy league students.

RIP , Officer Collier.

Posted by: T. Hunter at April 19, 2013 02:28 PM (EZl54)

they through it at the cops.

Posted by: waldo at April 19, 2013 06:24 PM (y2XjR)

How do you get through a pressure cooker?!?

Posted by: Extendo Man at April 19, 2013 02:28 PM (m7GwI)

73 Wins CPAC honors.

Posted by: Golfman at April 19, 2013 02:29 PM (W9uTH)

74 59 Regarding the MIT cop, they deal with a lot of jumpers, those MENSA members go out windows if they can' t keep up their 4.0. Posted by: Madamex at April 19, 2013 06:27 PM (Tj05I) I shouldn't laugh, but I did. I went to a large engineering school and yes, grad students, especially foreign grad students, were always killing themselves in grusome and novel ways.

Posted by: waldo at April 19, 2013 02:29 PM (y2XjR)

75 I thought them going door to door last night meant that he had fled on foot. Guess not.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 19, 2013 02:29 PM (wZbqz)

76 "41 How do you lose a guy who was shooting at a bunch of cops." --- Cue the requests for more drones and the authority to use them... in 3..2..

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at April 19, 2013 02:29 PM (7mQyC)

77 I want this guy alive to reveal the rest of his network.

Posted by: toby928© at April 19, 2013 02:29 PM (QupBk)

78 May the officer RIP> FNC has someone on saying that one or both wen to Chechnya and came back radicalized. I think there are more to this cell. I typed that before I heard him say that!

Posted by: CarolT at April 19, 2013 02:29 PM (z4WKX)

79 Seriously how is Menino mayor of Boston?

He should be living at some research institute for brain injuries not running one of US' largest cities.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 19, 2013 02:30 PM (5Hl3g)

80 I hope he is dead .Now they better find the fucking body ASAP

Posted by: steevy at April 19, 2013 02:30 PM (dBYCN)

81 this kid grew up in that town and has friends there they are helping him he probably left last night in the trunk of somebody's car

Posted by: thunderb at April 19, 2013 02:30 PM (Ivw5/)

82 "Poor cops. They must be beat." --- Poor citizens, most could have gone about their normal day.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at April 19, 2013 02:30 PM (7mQyC)

83 75 He apparently did abandon the vehicle and elude them on foot.

Posted by: steevy at April 19, 2013 02:30 PM (dBYCN)

84 Chill Ace. You deserve a Pulitizer Prize for your coverage. You are way ahead of everyone, weighing the truth in reporting. Along with your contributers.

Posted by: tony redenzo at April 19, 2013 02:31 PM (H3SNW)

85 78 carol t, I'm glad you're well.... God keep your town

Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2013 02:31 PM (LRFds)

86 I really don't know. I feel so stupid, sitting here "blogging news" when I have no idea what the news is.

You don't have to sling rumors around if you don't want to. It's not like it's some kind of vital service that someone has to perform. Honestly, it's going to be kind of hard for me to take you seriously the next time you try to gin up some snark for the ludicrous claims of "layers of fact checkers" on the next diatribe against the media. There are all kinds of angles you can take on this without the breathless parroting of invented bullshit.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 19, 2013 02:31 PM (+lsX1)

87 this kid grew up in that town and has friends there / they are helping him

After he blew up an eight year old? Childhood friends don't cover for people who do that. Only fellow members of a terrorist cell would do that, and even then only if they thought they could use this guy in other missions.

Posted by: boulder hobo at April 19, 2013 02:31 PM (QTHTd)

88 I want this guy alive to reveal the rest of his network. My guess? Two young adults who came here when they were kids pine for the homeland and wind up online, talking to co-religionists and countrymen, and get radicalized primarily that way.

Posted by: zsasz at April 19, 2013 02:31 PM (MMC8r)

89 @81

Be careful. Sean Bannion calls that "Black Helicopter" talk.

Posted by: T. Hunter at April 19, 2013 02:31 PM (EZl54)

90 @78 I think you are right. Fox all day has been quietly pushing the cell idea. They know something that they are not telling. They just stated the guys went back to Chenen for eight months together. Does ANY other news organization do anything but copy the copy from AP and the Slime?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 19, 2013 02:31 PM (wR+pz)

91 Too late to read all the comments preceding, but it was an early morning statement that screwed things up. The claim is that the car was stolen from the 7-11, so they called that the robbery.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 19, 2013 02:32 PM (feFL6)

92 "77 I want this guy alive to reveal the rest of his network. Posted by: toby928Â© at April 19, 2013 06:29 PM (QupBk) " This. Later, all. God bless.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 19, 2013 02:32 PM (sA52w)

93 so did he run or did he drive away?

Posted by: akak at April 19, 2013 02:32 PM (eFroM)

94 64. Nah cold front coming through. Mommie jeans will be too cold.

Posted by: Golfman at April 19, 2013 02:32 PM (W9uTH)

95 Wanna know something that will really flip your noodle? A crime of domestic violence is a permanent bar to legally own a weapon. A crime of domestic violence in no way shape or form interfers with your ability to gain US citizenship or legal status. Wrap your fucking head around that one.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at April 19, 2013 02:32 PM (++kZl)

96 @81 this kid grew up in that town and has friends there
/ they are helping him

Didn't he post on FB that " I have no American friends" ?

Posted by: T. Hunter at April 19, 2013 02:32 PM (EZl54)

97 Listening to the news they keep saying the POS was radicalized. I am thinking he started going to his place of worship. I hope Homeland has checked out the local mosque. Good Lord, what a mess.

Posted by: disgusted at April 19, 2013 02:32 PM (WJXt1)

98 Menino was sick last year, he was in Italy and speculation is he had a stroke. He announced last month he would not run again and then fell 2 weeks ago and broke his leg.

Posted by: Madamex at April 19, 2013 02:33 PM (Tj05I)

99 Clusterfuck.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at April 19, 2013 02:33 PM (P3dtw)

100 I still think this terrorist has "friends" and more will happen. The lone wolf meme is stupid. No way these two worked all this out alone. There is a support network of some sort, and even if they don't support what they did, they'll protect him from the cops if they can... that's my current thinking. Wrong you guys?

Posted by: Yip at April 19, 2013 06:26 PM (/jHWN)

You mean the Saudi kid they're quietly shuttling out of the country? I wonder what the deal Obama made with the Saudi FM was...

Posted by: mugiwara at April 19, 2013 02:33 PM (hpYnL)

101

67 58
The punk is probably dead somewhere in the vicinity of the abandoned vehicle.

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 19, 2013 06:27 PM
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Agreed

_____

I still say, check the local mosques

Posted by: Marybeth at April 19, 2013 02:33 PM (Ks0w4)

102

>>>I feel so stupid, sitting here "blogging news" when I have no idea what the news is.

***

I have a sixth sense about this. The news will be: "2nd terrorist suspect executed....er.....killed while resisting arrest."

Posted by: LGoPs at April 19, 2013 02:33 PM (BJVEF)

103 81 this kid grew up in that town and has friends there they are helping him he probably left last night in the trunk of somebody's car Posted by: thunderb at April 19, 2013 06:30 PM (Ivw5/) I sort of doubt that, Yankees are mostly pussies. Only someone in a cell would help him. He obviously walked somewhere to die or get help.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 19, 2013 02:33 PM (wR+pz)

104 96 Wanna know something that will really flip your noodle?

A crime of domestic violence is a permanent bar to legally own a weapon.

A crime of domestic violence in no way shape or form interfers with your ability to gain US citizenship or legal status.

Wrap your fucking head around that one.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at April 19, 2013 06:32 PM (++kZl)

Nice angle of attack on migration reform and the warz on wimmynz.

Posted by: assault flounder at April 19, 2013 02:34 PM (Kkt/i)

105 There are all kinds of angles you can take on this without the breathless parroting of invented bullshit.

But on the other hand, it's good to know what the invented bullshit is, as long as we've got some kind of caveat.

It is pretty much impossible to sift through bullshit in real time and *still provide content*. Other than "no one really knows what the fuck is going on, but Boston sure is still on some kind of lockdown, discuss".

Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at April 19, 2013 02:34 PM (Lq5WC)

106 Only the older brother went to Russia/chechinya

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2013 02:34 PM (jE38p)

107 Regarding the MIT cop, they deal with a lot of jumpers, those MENSA members go out windows if they can' t keep up their 4.0.

Posted by: Madamex at April 19, 2013 06:27 PM (Tj05I)

THIS. Seeing a lot of MIT students on the subway, many of them look socially awkward or out of sorts. Not saying that makes you a killer or suicidal but I did notice a lot of advertisements to help people who are suffering from depression on the subway while I was in Boston.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 19, 2013 02:34 PM (oBhEo)

108
I still say, check the local mosques Posted by: Marybeth at April 19, 2013 06:33 PM
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Racist hater

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2013 02:34 PM (aDwsi)

109 I'm just thinking that within a immigrant community, he has support from those that don't trust cops. Too, crazy relatives have already said they think he is being set-up. So for those that know him, how hard would it be for them to believe the kid they know vs what the cops/media are saying? I think it's completely plausible he has escaped with help or is being harbored.

Posted by: Yip at April 19, 2013 02:35 PM (/jHWN)

110 A crime of domestic violence is a permanent bar to legally own a weapon.

Yep, even if it is a misdemeanor non-violent action tagged as domestic violence, barred for life.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 19, 2013 02:35 PM (jKWYf)

111 I strongly suspect Suspect #2 holed up within a few blocks of the shoot-out, and didn't leave thereafter; and that if he's not dead already (of which there's a strong possibility he is), and if his hiding place is not found fairly soon, he'll be dead before this night is out.

**********

Well, if that's the case, we can all hope that he was gut-shot and has spent the day suffering mightily.

Posted by: wholelottasplainin' at April 19, 2013 02:35 PM (+iVtG)

112 The melting pot is now a pressure cooker.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at April 19, 2013 02:35 PM (P3dtw)

113

>>>You mean the Saudi kid they're quietly shuttling out of the country? I wonder what the deal Obama made with the Saudi FM was...

***

Oh and btw. Remember the fucking conniption fit the left had after 9-11 when supposedly some Saudi's were allowed to leave the country by the eeeeevil Boooosh administration.

Apparently they used up all their conniption. Fuckers.

Posted by: LGoPs at April 19, 2013 02:35 PM (BJVEF)

114 107 Only the older brother went to Russia/chechinya Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2013 06:34 PM (jE38p) That is what I thought too, did I mishear the Fox guy?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 19, 2013 02:35 PM (wR+pz)

115 You could always talk about the FAA giving the green light for the 787 to go back in service today.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 19, 2013 02:35 PM (lFk6F)

116 MIT's newest dorms specifically had 'suicide proof' windows as part of the design by Stephen Hall.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at April 19, 2013 02:36 PM (KCvsd)

117 Crap! The aunt is a red-head. There goes that fantasy...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2013 02:36 PM (aDwsi)

118 Wanna know something that will really flip your noodle?

Would I have still broken it if you hadn't said anything?

Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at April 19, 2013 02:36 PM (Lq5WC)

119 Concensus. The lack of leadership. Margaret Thatcher.

Posted by: Golfman at April 19, 2013 02:36 PM (W9uTH)

120 his kid grew up in that town and has friends there / they are helping him After he blew up an eight year old? Childhood friends don't cover for people who do that. Only fellow members of a terrorist cell would do that, and even then only if they thought they could use this guy in other missions. Posted by: boulder hobo a have you heard the interviews on TV he was really kind he helped me with my groceries we listened to rap music together don't underestimate the stupidity of people in ivy league environments

Posted by: thunderb at April 19, 2013 02:36 PM (Ivw5/)

121 Dear Terrorist: Your brother's dead. You have nothing to live or fight for. Kill yourself now. Sincerely, Waldo

Posted by: waldo at April 19, 2013 02:37 PM (y2XjR)

122 Fox saying now they don't know their travel. Now discussing you tube video.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 19, 2013 02:37 PM (wR+pz)

123 These days, "the news" is whatever the White House says it is.

Posted by: Beagle at April 19, 2013 02:37 PM (sOtz/)

124 It is pretty much impossible to sift through bullshit in real time and *still provide content*. Other than "no one really knows what the fuck is going on, but Boston sure is still on some kind of lockdown, discuss".

And there you go. The provision of content trumps the accuracy or reality of said content I guess. Just get something out there, to feed my PanicOutrage addiction. But after this is over, let's make fun of those assholes in the media!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 19, 2013 02:37 PM (+lsX1)

125 Where is dear leader?

Posted by: Golfman at April 19, 2013 02:37 PM (W9uTH)

126 I'm hearing two helicopters overhead, not heard that all day long.

Posted by: In one of the locked-down suburbs at April 19, 2013 02:38 PM (+iVtG)

127 #126. Back nine.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at April 19, 2013 02:38 PM (P3dtw)

128

109
I still say, check the local mosques

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Racist hater

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A badge to proudly wear in this case!

Posted by: Marybeth at April 19, 2013 02:38 PM (Ks0w4)

129 And there you go. The provision of content trumps the accuracy or reality of said content I guess. Just get something out there, to feed my PanicOutrage addiction. But after this is over, let's make fun of those assholes in the media!

I'm all for it.

Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at April 19, 2013 02:38 PM (Lq5WC)

130 126 Where is dear leader? Waiting to see what the weather is going to be tomorrow to decide his tee time.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 19, 2013 02:38 PM (wR+pz)

131 The report I read this afternoon stated that they went into the store, bought food and in the process had the store camera record their faces. The photo of them in the store was in the article. Somehow (interesting to speculate) The police were notified immediately, and the firefight began.

Posted by: I'd Rather Be Surfin at April 19, 2013 02:38 PM (g5wi5)

132 They just stated the guys went back to Chenen for eight months together. They never said that. Older of the two went back to Russia for six months.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 19, 2013 02:39 PM (eyJh9)

133 71 "Ironic horror. The Muslim pigs masquerading as Ivy league students targeted and murdered a man sworn to protect and serve - Ivy league students." I don't get the "masquerading as Ivy League students" bit; there's been no suggestion of any of that from any news org. And neither of the brothers was in fact as an Ivy Leaguer: the older one attended a community college for a while, and the younger one was enrolled at a satellite campus of UMass. Thus, no such irony.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at April 19, 2013 02:39 PM (21TJo)

134 You could always talk about the FAA giving the green light for the 787 to go back in service today. Posted by: Waterhouse at April 19, 2013 06:35 PM (lFk6F) Did they? If they did, that's good

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2013 02:39 PM (jE38p)

135 The very early stories had the MIT officer approaching someone who was trying to open car doors one after the other. Apparently there was a robbery at 7-11 (regardless of what FauxNews says) but it was unconnected.

Words you won't hear: jihad, mosque, overseas militant training, terrorist support network.

Posted by: Xavier at April 19, 2013 02:39 PM (J657q)

136 128 I thought that was him.

Posted by: Golfman at April 19, 2013 02:39 PM (/djtm)

137 "I wonder what the deal Obama made with the Saudi FM was..." --- Something I think we'd all like to know, think anyone in the "press" will actually ask him?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at April 19, 2013 02:39 PM (7mQyC)

138 I really don't know. I feel so stupid, sitting here "blogging news" when I have no idea what the news is. That's the difference between ace and the MFM: ace knows enough to feel stupid.

Posted by: Truman North at April 19, 2013 02:39 PM (ny+t0)

139 Suspect 2 could have been hit and died in a sewer pipe or something

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 19, 2013 02:39 PM (nTgAI)

140 Since the Isaslum religion requires their dead to be buried within 24 hours (I think) I can't wait until some turdbrain in the media or cair or a politician suggests this is done for the dead Boston terrorist.

Posted by: ExSnipe at April 19, 2013 02:39 PM (PBm/l)

141 After he blew up an eight year old? Childhood friends don't cover for people who do that.

aMerIcan DrONestrIkeS KilL MuSLiM KidS EverY Day!1!1!!eleventy!!11!!

Posted by: Every Ivy League Professor in Boston at April 19, 2013 02:40 PM (EZl54)

142

The JEF could have said "I am torn between paying my respects to the victims, and not allowing my appearance to divert security forces, so I have reluctantly decided to stay away from the memorial, because my appearance there is not as important bringing the criminals to justice."

But of course he would have been, as usual, lying.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 19, 2013 02:40 PM (sG76x)

143 The airhead native U.S. citizen white chick (a supposed "All-American girl", cough), who converted to Islam to marry the older of the two jihadi killers.

http://tinyurl.com/d74tv5m

Someone was accusing Ace and un-named morons of being "nativist jackwads".

I'm so nativist that I'd be completely delighted if this native-born "All-American girl" had her U.S. citizenship revoked with immediate effect and was instantly deported to Chechnya with no hope of return.

She's demonstrated her loyalties. And they're rotten ones. Get her ass out of here. We have a wholly sufficient supply of airhead native-born white chicks in America. One fewer won't matter.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 19, 2013 02:40 PM (gqT4g)

144 Wouldn't they know if he was wounded? They would have a blood trail to follow, wouldn't they tell people he was wounded, and how far can someone run on foot if they are bleeding out? Just seems strange.

Posted by: Spypeach at April 19, 2013 02:40 PM (6xG9/)

145 older brother said in article he had no American friends hes dead little bro has lots of American friends

Posted by: thunderb at April 19, 2013 02:40 PM (Ivw5/)

146 So the cops can't find the guy but they give the all clear/all not clear to the public. Carry on with your normal lives but look out for superdouche. I think Barky was right about one thing...the cops acted stupidly.

Posted by: weird flunky at April 19, 2013 02:40 PM (tlhtD)

147 By the way, Gristle... I don't come here for "news". There's a million places for that, all of them sadly lacking in their own way. I come here for a point of view, camaraderie and some backslapping. Also MWR.

Do you see the difference?

Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at April 19, 2013 02:40 PM (Lq5WC)

148 From the news conference, (as I understand it) there was a 7-11 robbery, but the brothers were not the robbers. However the older brother was ID'd in the surveillance video from the robbery.

Posted by: John T at April 19, 2013 02:41 PM (YbQuj)

149 Rex double times to defend his people.

Posted by: toby928© at April 19, 2013 02:41 PM (QupBk)

150 In wash DC it will suck. What's his excuse?

Posted by: Golfman at April 19, 2013 02:41 PM (/djtm)

151 fox news bimbo 200 rounds fired In the firefight that's a lot of rounds. not the way cops shoot lady.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at April 19, 2013 02:43 PM (BjJOB)

152 Dear Terrorist: Your brother's dead. You have nothing to live or fight for. Kill yourself now.

Sincerely, Waldo

I hope not. I want a long drawn out trial carried out on the front page of newspapers every night for the next year.

And every time I see a fuckwad with "coexist" bumper sticker I'm going to yell "What about Boston?", at them until the day I die.

Posted by: joh at April 19, 2013 02:43 PM (uPbpg)

153 Police had an impromptu early morning presser and one of the cops spoke about the 7-11 robbery. He didn't actually connect the firefight with the store robbery - it was more a timeline recollection of sorts.

It was on the local TV station feed.

Posted by: 13times at April 19, 2013 02:43 PM (h6XiD)

154 97 "@81 this kid grew up in that town and has friends there / they are helping him Didn't he post on FB that " I have no American friends" ?" That was the older brother who posted that, not the younger one. There are lots of reports that the younger brother had lots of friends; some of them have been talking to the press. But there's also an indication that the younger brother may have changed sometime last summer. The friends he had before mostly seem to be saying now they lost track of him back around August/September.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at April 19, 2013 02:43 PM (21TJo)

155

It is EXTREMELY important that white hat does not die and is taken into custody.

If taken into custody, Marxist Eric Holder will attempt to try the terrorist as a common criminal, with rights, in Federal Court.

Then as the trial approaches 100 million dollars and a sleeze criminal lawyer trots this, scum out, even the Lib town of Boston will say, Why isn't this asshole in Gitmo.

Posted by: tony redenzo at April 19, 2013 02:43 PM (H3SNW)

156 I love people who say 'Faux News'....it's so edgy, clever and original.

/s

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 19, 2013 02:43 PM (X6akg)

157 @146

Got it. Thanks for the clarification.

Posted by: T. Hunter at April 19, 2013 02:44 PM (EZl54)

158 Nude MFM post

Posted by: toby928© at April 19, 2013 02:44 PM (QupBk)

159 I come here for a point of view, camaraderie and some backslapping. Also MWR.

Do you see the difference?
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 19, 2013 06:40 PM
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Well, now see? There's the difference. I come here to be humbled. Anyone remember the Monty Python skit where the guy mistakenly goes into the "Abuse Room"?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2013 02:45 PM (aDwsi)

160 If I had checked my local mosque a year ago I would have found an imam who trained jihadis to kill American officers overseas. Never heard about that? No worries, it barely made the local paper.

Posted by: Beagle at April 19, 2013 02:45 PM (sOtz/)

161 I foresee a massive increase in gun ownership in this area outside of the Brookline/Boston uber 2nd amendment infringement zone. After having something like this happen and the police fail to secure a known terrorist, there is no way in Hell the average person is going to feel safe at home relying entirely on the local PD.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at April 19, 2013 02:45 PM (KCvsd)

162 85-Thanks Sven. I'm six to seven miles away from Boston. I am not in one of the cities that had a lockdown. They added Boston after 9 am. The City here calls a lot. I found out about Boston being locked down from their phone call. Late Monday night office sent text message with link to message from Prudential Center security saying which streets would be closed and entrances to the parking garage. There is an entrance to garage from Mass Pike but that's still closed. I checked work email and found office was closed.

Posted by: CarolT at April 19, 2013 02:45 PM (z4WKX)

163 The gal he married went all crazy and started frumping it up. However, she appears to have moved back in with her parents and the neighbors say they hadn't seen the dead terrorist husband for over a year. Remember that bitch in the UK? She converted, married a 7/7 terrorist, then skipped to africa and has been involved in terrorist activities there. Her name is Samantha something: http://goo.gl/IwMte

Posted by: waldo at April 19, 2013 02:46 PM (y2XjR)

164 The fact that the cops fired 200 rounds clearly illustrates the need to ban all sorts of guns and magazines that can fire that much

Posted by: Chris Christie Creme at April 19, 2013 02:46 PM (XQzGn)

165

145 Just seems strange.

I am working on that tin foil hat. Islamic Jack Baurer, lock down of a major city, Homeland armed to the teeth, immigration "reform" being pushed thru the congress. WTF!

Posted by: disgusted at April 19, 2013 02:46 PM (WJXt1)

166 I haven't seen any information that white hat was wounded or they found blood in the Mercedes. I would have thought the cops would be covering all the hospitals if they knew he was wounded and listening to the scanner on and off all day, I never heard them once speak of it.... until late when they found a suspicious car in that one hospital garage.

Posted by: Yip at April 19, 2013 02:47 PM (/jHWN)

167 165 The fact that the cops fired 200 rounds clearly illustrates the need to ban all sorts of guns and magazines that can fire that much
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It also illustrates that more range time might be in order

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2013 02:47 PM (aDwsi)

168 http://i35.tinypic.com/312xmwh.png

coexist

or get the fist

Posted by: 13times at April 19, 2013 02:47 PM (h6XiD)

169 113 The melting pot is now a pressure cooker.Posted by: Fourth Virginia at April 19, 2013 06:35 PM (P3dtw)

Nice. Between that, Chechnyans coming home to roost, JJ's comic stylings earlier today, etc, is it any wonder this is the best political blog on the internets?

Posted by: LizLem at April 19, 2013 02:48 PM (8wqqE)

170 168 - Certainly DHS has the ammo to donate for such a thing.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at April 19, 2013 02:49 PM (7mQyC)

171

don't forget these guys were most likely NE Patriot fans

just saying

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2013 02:49 PM (UJm0p)

172 Love the dress! http://goo.gl/pQZ0c

Posted by: waldo at April 19, 2013 02:50 PM (y2XjR)

173 He's not hiding out in Cambridge. The shootout was midnight last night. Eighteen hours ago. 18 hours times 70 miles per hour = 1200 miles. He could be anywhere from Newfoundland to Iowa City to New Orleans. The Boston PD and Feds have been chasing around scaring people and closing down a major city because they have no earthly idea where this dude is.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 19, 2013 02:51 PM (lBKzy)

174 and what of this dudes Ipod Imean Imam?

Posted by: akak at April 19, 2013 02:51 PM (eFroM)

175 Has anyone noticed if the lefty blogosphere has started "Dorner-ing" this guy- You know, "brave Robin Hood freedom fighter fending off the police against all odds" nonsense?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 19, 2013 02:51 PM (pxDth)

176 I think the government has a big problem with Islamic communities that are all over the country and that have not bonded to where they live or their neighbors. It is a perfect environment for a disconnected reality and probably all sorts of subversion. America is where they live, but the could care less about Americans and may even despise us for our freedoms. Then there's the religion of peace stuff I didn't even mention....

Posted by: Yip at April 19, 2013 02:52 PM (/jHWN)

177 #176 Lefty blogosphere? THE FUCKING NYT IS RUNNING SOB SYMPATHY STORIES FOR THESE CHILD MURDERING SUBHUMAN TERRORIST VERMIN!

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at April 19, 2013 02:53 PM (KCvsd)

178 Okay. Time for the big guns. Have the cops stand down and have the IRS chase this POS down!

Posted by: disgusted at April 19, 2013 02:54 PM (WJXt1)

179 COEXIST (I am talking to you Muhammed) FIFY

Posted by: Beagle at April 19, 2013 02:54 PM (sOtz/)

180 The melting pot is now a pressure cooker.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at April 19, 2013 06:35 PM (P3dtw)

****

I am so stealing that. Oh, wait a minute...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 19, 2013 02:55 PM (pxDth)

181 By the way, Gristle... I don't come here for "news". There's a million places for that, all of them sadly lacking in their own way. I come here for a point of view, camaraderie and some backslapping. Also MWR.

That's sweet, with the camaraderie and the backslapping. I mostly come here for the hilariously profane sorority girl emails. There's something here for all of us.

Ace was complaining that he felt, "so stupid, sitting here "blogging news" when I have no idea what the news is." I was just pointing out the irony of a guy who constantly writes about the irresponsibility and inaccuracy of the media, feeling some kind of obligation to pass along a never ending stream of inaccurate and irresponsible media rumors. I guess one of the other things I come here for is to point out irony.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 19, 2013 02:56 PM (+lsX1)

182 Guy on fox and others I just heard are now referring to them as "Self radicalized". *sigh*

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at April 19, 2013 02:56 PM (7mQyC)

183 @183 CAIR will send you a free radicalization manual. But don't drop it or rip it. Could cause a global conflagration.

Posted by: Beagle at April 19, 2013 02:59 PM (sOtz/)

184 Breaking news, Gunfire in Watertown! Now Shep is on. I'm going to try local news instead.

Posted by: CarolT at April 19, 2013 03:00 PM (z4WKX)

185 Automatic gunfire heard in Watertown per ABC.

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 19, 2013 03:01 PM (BVkEs)

186 May be officials head faked the punk out.

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 19, 2013 03:02 PM (BVkEs)

187 Cops firing dummy rounds into a boat and gas.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at April 19, 2013 03:02 PM (7mQyC)

188 Instructed not to fire unless fired upon.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at April 19, 2013 03:03 PM (7mQyC)

189 Would really suck if it wasn't this guy on the boat but some other poor shlub.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at April 19, 2013 03:04 PM (7mQyC)

190 oh sh1t Mahoney is on the case

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at April 19, 2013 03:05 PM (7mQyC)

191 Someone said they heard 15 to 20 shots. I hope they catch the perp on live television! I say he's a coward. He's down on Franklin Street!

Posted by: CarolT at April 19, 2013 03:06 PM (z4WKX)

192 When I first heard the report I remember thinking that "robbing a 7-11" didn't feel right. It seemed like an attention grabbing thing to do, and why would a terrorist do that after carefully planning an attack? Wouldn't they have a well thought out exit plan rather than knocking off a convenience store because they ran out of money?

Posted by: Anabolic State at April 19, 2013 03:07 PM (NSrZ5)

193 Nice ! Gov gives the all clear and the Islamic genius takes off!

Posted by: disgusted at April 19, 2013 03:08 PM (WJXt1)

194 This is pure speculation of course. But these guys were pretty desperate to steal a car. They stole at least two, right? I think they were probably trying to steal a car on the campus when the Officer Collier pulled up. The attack was described as an ambush or assassination. One could have drawn the officers attention as he pulled up while the other sneaked up on him. Its hard to imagine it happening any other way. Collier must have come up on them while something was in progress.

Posted by: Peggy at April 19, 2013 07:34 PM (FIimA)

195 test..

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 22, 2013 10:26 AM (UypUQ)

196 ..for echo

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 22, 2013 10:27 AM (UypUQ)

197 Test complete.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 22, 2013 10:27 AM (UypUQ)

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