April 05, 2013

MSNBC, Kindergarden for Bored, Angry Unemployed People
— Ace

The MSNBC Messaging Machine finds new ways to be stupid just about every day.

MSNBC is a televised blog. I keep saying this because it's true: part of blogs' charm, at least initially, was that they gleefully ignored any standards of professionalism. The honesty about the slapdash nature of them was bracing. And the honesty about agenda -- to wit, we have one -- was liberating.

But that upside of blogs also comes with a downside. Blogs speak relentlessly to one side of the aisle (are there any actual centrist blogs out there? It's a business model I don't think can actually work). We look for new ways to provoke -- because it's fun and profitable. And I don't mean that in the cliched joke way; I mean, it's literally both fun and profitable (at least in the sense of hit-whoring) to find exciting new manners of juvenile tweaking of one's political enemies.

The medium tends towards two things: emotional hotness and intellectual dumbness. Those aren't cast-iron rules, of course. (Present company excepted!)

MSNBC has fully embraced the blogger ethos of hit-whoring provocation first, second, last, and always. As well as exploring all the new and inventive ways to call people you don't like Nazis.

There simply is no professionalism at MSNBC, no aspiration to any kind of standards at all. It's Dumb By Design (TM), because Dumb is Easy and Easy is Holy.

It's a televised blog. It's a vlog (a term that never really caught on). It's a tlog, I suppose.

It's not a professional news organization in any way -- it's not professional, and it's not about news. It's also apparently overseen by callow morons so it's really not all that organized. It's sloppy, stupid liberal agitation 24/7.

Television is itself a potent medium -- people read less when TV came along. They also stopped going to movies as much. TV's easy and convenient.

Back in the day, the blogosphere was full of blog triumphalism. We actually thought Blogs Could Change the World (or at least we pretended to, sometimes).

It turns out we were right... in a way. What we failed to understand is that You Really Haven't Made It Until You're On TV. And we failed to understand that television was a ravenous, indiscriminately-consuming organism, always needing "content" (of a kind) to fill the time between commercials, and it was furthermore a highly adaptable, very fecund, very insidious sort of colonizing/cannibalizing pullulating growth.* Like the Thing, it imitates and consumes.

What we failed to understand, in short, was that the Triumph of the Blogs would come when a television channel adopted an all-blog format, with all the Hot Sloppy Stupid that is characteristic of blogs on their bad days.

And we failed to understand the Iron Law of American Dumb that is responsible for the rise of TV in the first place: It's just easier to watch people talking rather to read people writing. Pictures are fun and words are work.

Dumb is Easy and Easy is Holy.

MSNBC took a fairly Easy form of writing and made it even Easier, but taking out the "reading" part of it.

* Pullulating means "breeding or spawning new life freely." I just learned the world last night, looking up something about the Drake Equation and the Fermi Paradox (i.e., why isn't the the universe pullulating with detectable alien life, if such life is as common as many estimations for the Drake Equation suggest?).

Anyway, I thought it was a neat, Lovecraftian sort of word, and figured if I used it it might stick in my brain. So I used it.

Posted by: Ace at 01:30 PM | Comments (453)
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1

MSNBC is that apotheosis.


Mighty fancy words there, pardner.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 01:32 PM (6TB1Z)

2 I have no intention of reading that.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2013 01:32 PM (EEAbP)

3 Ace's coffee musta kicked in.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 05, 2013 01:32 PM (mN8D3)

4 apotheosis, nadir, black hole of suckitude, whatever.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 01:32 PM (6TB1Z)

5 Blog? Vlog? Tlog? I think MSNBC is more of a log, as in, something to be flushed.

Posted by: mofo at April 05, 2013 01:33 PM (6V1UP)

6 Great string of posts today, ace.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 05, 2013 01:33 PM (XYSwB)

7 MSNBC has fully embraced the blogger ethos of hit-whoring provocation first, second, last, and always.

You mean like stories about MSNBC?  Which I'm fine with, btw.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 01:34 PM (6TB1Z)

8 "What we failed to understand is that You Really Haven't Made It Until You're On TV." Wait....are you saying there's going to be AceTV?

Posted by: EC at April 05, 2013 01:34 PM (doBIb)

9
speaking of blogs...

it's been ages since you did a De-Lurk post.

It'd be nice to get some new blood in this place.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 05, 2013 01:35 PM (OgiBc)

10 STOP PUNCHING DOWN!

Posted by: ScumGhuy at April 05, 2013 01:35 PM (EEAbP)

11 MSNBC:  A Whiter Shade of Pale

Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at April 05, 2013 01:35 PM (QupBk)

12 That apotheosis has pretty low ratings. Not trolling, but curious, how do you factor that into your judgment? What are the ways MSNBC is successful in your opinion?

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at April 05, 2013 01:36 PM (csi6Y)

13 On first reading the headline I thought it said

MSNBC: Kindergarten for angry unemployable people, as in someone on MSNBC proposed sending angry people to kindergarten.  And my reaction to that was, yeah sounds baout right for MSNBC.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 01:36 PM (HDgX3)

14 What we failed to understand is that You Really Haven't Made It Until You're On TV.

I actually disagree with this.  Yes, TV controls the mind-thoughts of a segment of the population; generally the dumber fraction.  Real thought leaders read books, and increasingly blogs like this one.  People who get their worldview from TV are sheep.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 01:37 PM (6TB1Z)

15 Vlog. ....That sounds like something that is infested with Vogons.

Posted by: wheatie at April 05, 2013 01:37 PM (5kUwW)

16 MSNBC?   Nothing here. Move along.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 05, 2013 01:37 PM (4Mv1T)

17 We didn't anticipate that Brawndo level stupidity,

Posted by: luigi vercotti at April 05, 2013 01:38 PM (Jsiw/)

18 I could stand MS-NBC is they were so damned white.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 05, 2013 01:38 PM (deaac)

19 Make that " ... weren't so damned white."

Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 05, 2013 01:38 PM (deaac)

20 I run a pretty centrist blog.

Posted by: Cahrles Jhonson at April 05, 2013 01:38 PM (jucos)

21 Wait....are you saying there's going to be AceTV?


AceTV: Raping your eyesockets.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 05, 2013 01:38 PM (4WhSY)

22 TV is so yesterday. I sure as hell don't watch it, and everyone knows I'm the height of hip.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 05, 2013 01:38 PM (4Mv1T)

23 Thing about the ratins on msnbc is they're low. But they are profitable. MSNBC made about $700M profit in 2011. They must get pretty good ad rates and the "talent" is quite cheap, relative to CNN and Fox.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 01:39 PM (HDgX3)

24 Hasn't Pamella gellar's rack been on tv? She made it I guess

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 01:39 PM (u0HjB)

25 I'm    still   relevant    and    employable.  People   care   what   I   think!

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at April 05, 2013 01:40 PM (wIgpo)

26 Navycopjoe!!! Saw your message last night. Winger huh? And where's that link?

Posted by: EC at April 05, 2013 01:40 PM (doBIb)

27

14....People who get their worldview from TV are sheep.

 

True...but they outnumber us.

And they vote.


 

Posted by: wheatie at April 05, 2013 01:40 PM (5kUwW)

28 You're right. It also helps that MSNBC's parent company was willing to bankroll the channel, regardless of ratings, as an extension of the Administration/Obama campaign in exchange for tax breaks, etc. I doubt an independent blog-style channel could be profitable.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2013 01:40 PM (KqmXZ)

29 Ailes always said that Fox was structured like a newspaper, and that really hits the nail on the head between the two and why there's no way a comparison could ever be made.

Fox, for all of its flaws, is professional. Fox as newspaper, MSNBC as blog

Posted by: The Q at April 05, 2013 01:41 PM (lB4ch)

30 >>>I actually disagree with this. Yes, TV controls the mind-thoughts of a segment of the population; generally the dumber fraction. Real thought leaders read books, and increasingly blogs like this one. People who get their worldview from TV are sheep. this is one of things in which the great majority of morons get to outvote us. And to them, Only The Idiot Box Matters.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 01:41 PM (LCRYB)

31 Well somebody was gifted with a Word of the Day calendar.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 05, 2013 01:41 PM (tXLNR)

32

* Pullulating

 

 

 

That word looks like it would have a whole other meaning in the Urban Dictionary.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2013 01:41 PM (EEAbP)

33 If those teabaggers would just numb down a bit and let it happen, we could get this gay behind us. Then my aids, Anderson and Barney, wouldn't have to celebrate Mardi Gras in a back stall of the Washington Mall every damn year.

You can't picture that on a tlog.

Posted by: Debbie Schlosserman Wartz at April 05, 2013 01:41 PM (0It32)

34 Remember when Chris Matthews would guest host for Rush? Now, particularly after his silly retort to Rush about 'racism means the supremacy of white people,' it's apparent that Matthews has never understood a single thing he's ever said. He's just desperately clawing for an audience, any audience, and he'll spout whatever blood-soaked invective he has to to thrill his audience. One of the reasons MSNBC is so horrible is that they don't try very hard, because they don't have to. Cenk Uygur was bad enough, but he got thrown over for Al Sharpton, who is miraculously worse. Unlike FOX, which actually intends to be a solid news org, MSBNC left that to using NBC (!) and became the red-meat, no-nutritional value source.

Posted by: The Fed at April 05, 2013 01:41 PM (MMC8r)

35 And your point is...?

Posted by: MSNBC at April 05, 2013 01:41 PM (oJQ+J)

36 26. It's there Around 595 or that area

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 01:41 PM (u0HjB)

37 I've decided MSNBC is a tax write off and/or propaganda machine 24/7 commercial to buy votes for all of GE's and MSN's other ventures.

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 01:42 PM (r2PLg)

38 Glad I haven't got caught pullulatin' yet...

Posted by: Joey Biden at April 05, 2013 01:42 PM (oJQ+J)

39 27 14....People who get their worldview from TV are sheep.

True...but they outnumber us.
And they vote.

That.....may change.

Posted by: The big bad wolf at April 05, 2013 01:42 PM (6TB1Z)

40
Ace is right. A prefect example is the TMZ show, or even Pardon The Interruption on ESPN.

It's stupid simple television for stupid simple people. A marriage made in Heaven.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 05, 2013 01:42 PM (OgiBc)

41 Oops Microsoft.

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 01:42 PM (r2PLg)

42 I wonder what the original plan was for that station when MS and NBC execs were getting together.  It would be like finding the first draft of the screenplay for WaterWorld.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 05, 2013 01:42 PM (BAS5M)

43 I doubt an independent blog-style channel could be profitable.

Don't need profit. Just need money.

Two words.

Koch Bros.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 05, 2013 01:42 PM (4Mv1T)

44 "Anyway, I thought it was a neat, Lovecraftian sort of word" Ah, the word you're looking for: "Cthululating" Kind of the opposite of pullulating, as in: "For the past 4 years the Obama Administration has presided over a positively cthululating economy."

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at April 05, 2013 01:43 PM (Y5I9o)

45 The medium tends towards two things: emotional hotness and intellectual dumbness. Well, at least I have perfected the second part.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 01:43 PM (j3uk1)

46 Pathetic, not apotheosis. A simple transfer of medium is not truly an apotheosis-- it's a move from one medium to another, like ice, water, gas. McLuhan may disagree but I think you're still onto something, I'm just not so sure what exactly that is. Certainly MSNBC is gassy.

Posted by: Bill54 at April 05, 2013 01:43 PM (XXl7H)

47 MS-NBC is whiter than a Mormon glee club high tenor who's just seen a ghost. It's whiter than a whitehead on Chris Matthews' pasty white face. It's whiter than a white-guy doing a YouTube rap. I wish they'd get a little diversity, but whatdoIknow?

Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 05, 2013 01:43 PM (deaac)

48 Around 595 or that area The link of your SO's vid?

Posted by: EC at April 05, 2013 01:44 PM (doBIb)

49 I think a lot of libertarian sites pretend to be centrist. A lot of so called libertarians like to talk shit about republicans so they can sound cool. On a side note, does anyone have a semi official estimate for when we hit 20 T in debt. Just knoticed we are coming pretty close to 17 trillion. Yea, baby!

Posted by: Eaton Cox at April 05, 2013 01:44 PM (DLsRw)

50
TMZ and MSNBC even have sidebars!

They even make the layout look like a computer screen!

Good eye, Ace.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 05, 2013 01:44 PM (OgiBc)

51 emotional hotness Does Kate Upton apply here?

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 01:44 PM (j3uk1)

52 Pullulating ... ... has Hesperado made another appearance here?

Posted by: Arbalest at April 05, 2013 01:45 PM (yldXV)

53 zero hedge likes to bash republicans and democrats and 'banksters' and government not sure what they don't bash, kinda odd

Posted by: Eaton Cox at April 05, 2013 01:45 PM (DLsRw)

54 48. Yep

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 01:45 PM (u0HjB)

55 I get a kick out of these tv shows that think it's hip to put some hashtag on the screen throughout the broadcast so that 'social media' types can type a bottomless supply of inane comments that no one will read. #HipToBeAnAsshole

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at April 05, 2013 01:45 PM (feFL6)

56 48. Well, one of them

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 01:45 PM (u0HjB)

57 Has MSNBC ever gotten a tank in another country stuck in mud?   I think not.  Advantage:  Ewok. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at April 05, 2013 01:46 PM (Gk3SS)

58 Did any of you actually watch that bilge? You should be gagging by now. A five year old girl being told-- "Don't play with that! Stop!" but then the next second being treated like a yogi master over all them Southern states.

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 01:46 PM (r2PLg)

59 42 I wonder what the original plan was for that station when MS and NBC execs were getting together. It would be like finding the first draft of the screenplay for WaterWorld. Posted by: Count de Monet at April 05, 2013 05:42 PM (BAS5M) _____________ Pravda state run television only with more layers of spit flying and deception.

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 01:48 PM (r2PLg)

60 Credit where it's due Msnbc does do to catch a predator marathons on saturdays

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 01:48 PM (u0HjB)

61 These are people who think you can control the weather through taxes. I would expect that type of logic from someone mentally ill, or perhaps someone on acid. They kind of lose all credibility when they start talking shit like that.

Posted by: Whatev at April 05, 2013 01:48 PM (A7Wh1)

62 MSNBC is a propaganda organ for the Democrat party.  If they were a blog they would be the Daily Kos.

Posted by: Vic at April 05, 2013 01:49 PM (53z96)

63

If you "pullulate" excessively, you'll go blind.

Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2013 01:49 PM (OlN4e)

64 37 I've decided MSNBC is a tax write off and/or propaganda machine 24/7 commercial to buy votes for all of GE's and MSN's other ventures.

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 05:42 PM (r2PLg)


_____


Propaganda machine, definitely.


Tax write off? No. It makes a healthy profit.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 01:49 PM (HDgX3)

65 "pullulating means breeding or spawning new life freely"

I always pronounced it, "pollywogging."

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 05, 2013 01:50 PM (6H6o8)

66 Navycopjoe, Are you saying "she's only 17"?!?!

Posted by: EC at April 05, 2013 01:50 PM (doBIb)

67 Lean Forward
( SHAAART )

Posted by: MSNBC [/i] [/b] at April 05, 2013 01:50 PM (mN8D3)

68 62 MSNBC is a propaganda organ for the Democrat party. If they were a blog they would be the Daily Kos. Posted by: Vic at April 05, 2013 05:49 PM (53z96) Kinda like the NY Times, but even less respectable. If that was possible.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 01:50 PM (7xPCu)

69 62. If true it's a waste of money The idiots who watch that crap are voting dem anyway

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 01:51 PM (u0HjB)

70 She was 20 something

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 01:51 PM (u0HjB)

71 pullulate THIS

Posted by: kallisto at April 05, 2013 01:52 PM (jm/9g)

72 Even so, it's the worst kind of blogging. MSNBC is Buzzfeed.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 01:52 PM (T0NGe)

73 Are you saying "she's only 17"?!?! Posted by: EC at April 05, 2013 05:50 PM (doBIb)


http://youtu.be/GlN3oEjMpUQ


*bounds off innocently*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at April 05, 2013 01:52 PM (Gk3SS)

74 65 "pullulating means breeding or spawning new life freely" I always pronounced it, "pollywogging." Posted by: kathysaysso at April 05, 2013 05:50 PM (6H6o I envision it to be a type of asexual reproduction...the hip new evolutionary strategy for mewling bootlickers!

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 01:53 PM (7xPCu)

75 I doubt if they are profitable at all.  It would be interesting to see an honest audit.

Posted by: Vic at April 05, 2013 01:53 PM (53z96)

76 I accept the analogy but MSNBC isn't really "successful" in terms of ratings. "Storage Wars" blows them away in terms of viewers. I sometimes wonder why we amplify lefties who basically have no audience of their own.

Posted by: Ken Royall at April 05, 2013 01:53 PM (x0g8a)

77 removing sock

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 01:53 PM (MMC8r)

78 Personally, I always like to ululate when I pullulate.

Posted by: tom servo at April 05, 2013 01:53 PM (z+Xap)

79 That whole post read like a buildup to something. I didn't realize it was the thing until it was over. I've seen a lot of indie films like this, and Eric Stoltz was usually in them.

Posted by: Zippity Doo Dah at April 05, 2013 01:54 PM (E55AK)

80 NFL Player: Four Gay Players May Come Out Simultaneously
http://is.gd/kAHEop

It's gonna be fabulous.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 05, 2013 01:54 PM (/kI1Q)

81 ::: It's stupid simple television for stupid simple people. A marriage made in Heaven. ::: Hence why Alias ran for five seasons! I kid...sort of. I watched the first episode on the strength of a recommendation yesterday and was completely dumbfounded the CIA killed her boyfriend because she revealed to him her secret agent status. Ah...what?

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at April 05, 2013 01:54 PM (csi6Y)

82 31 Well somebody was gifted with a Word of the Day calendar I would have preferred "The Far Side" calendar.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 05, 2013 01:54 PM (GwD92)

83 MSNBC, it's like the HQ for 'tards insteaed of rons... Big Ed's got electrolytes.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-I'd buy that for a dollra at April 05, 2013 01:55 PM (Tovmf)

84 I just learned the world last night, looking up something about the Drake Equation and the Fermi Paradox (i.e., why isn't the the universe pullulating with detectable alien life, if such life is as common as many estimations for the Drake Equation suggest?). Michael Crichton pretty much eviscerated the Drake Equation as no better than astrology. The equation contains so many terms that are completely unverifiable that it's meaningless. This serious-looking equation gave SETI a serious footing as a legitimate intellectual inquiry. The problem, of course, is that none of the terms can be known, and most cannot even be estimated. The only way to work the equation is to fill in with guesses. And guesses-just so we’re clear-are merely expressions of prejudice. Nor can there be “informed guesses.” If you need to state how many planets with life choose to communicate, there is simply no way to make an informed guess. It’s simply prejudice. http://is.gd/uClvis Even with new estimates of exosolar planetary populations, the equation remains unknown with so many remaining incalculable terms, like "number of planets per star capable of supporting life." Just because a body is in the "habitable zone" does not mean it is capable of supporting life.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 01:55 PM (j3uk1)

85 >>>If they were a blog they would be the Daily Kos. they are a blog and they are the Daily Kos, Televised Edition.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 01:55 PM (LCRYB)

86 82 31 Well somebody was gifted with a Word of the Day calendar I would have preferred "The Far Side" calendar. Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 05, 2013 05:54 PM (GwD92) I think we kinda all wish for the Mayan calendar about now.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 01:55 PM (7xPCu)

87 8 EC, It'll be called the Ewok Games on the Blaze...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-I'd buy that for a dollra at April 05, 2013 01:56 PM (Tovmf)

88 _____ Propaganda machine, definitely. Tax write off? No. It makes a healthy profit. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 05:49 PM (HDgX3) _______ Really? I do wonder why I make the assumption... I guess the ratings that Drudge publishes.

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 01:56 PM (r2PLg)

89 AtC, that was the vid linked. NCJ... *high five*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 05, 2013 01:56 PM (tXLNR)

90 AtC....needs you contact info my Queen. Ping me at nic email, puh-leeze

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 05, 2013 01:56 PM (GwD92)

91 Thing about the ratins on msnbc is they're low. But they are profitable. MSNBC made about $700M profit in 2011. I don't believe this. Mostly because MSNBC isn't on its own in any sense. Cable companies have to carry them if they want USA or Discovery. MSNBC's costs are sometimes shared with NBC, especially on anything that resembles real reporting. Maybe it's true, but those kinds of numbers sound like Hollywood math to me.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 01:57 PM (T0NGe)

92 are there any actual centrist blogs out there? AllenG? http://dedicatedtenther.blogspot.ca/ wasn't sure

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 05, 2013 01:57 PM (XYSwB)

93 85 Ace, Maybe CNN is the Daily Koos.... Attica O'leary was using Koos as a producer no?

Posted by: Harlekwin15-I'd buy that for a dollra at April 05, 2013 01:57 PM (Tovmf)

94 80 NFL Player: Four Gay Players May Come Out Simultaneously http://is.gd/kAHEop It's gonna be fabulous. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 05, 2013 05:54 PM (/kI1Q) Look for the rhinestone encrusted shoes and sequined uniforms.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 01:58 PM (7xPCu)

95 MSNBC might make a profit, but it's because they outsource the actual work of news coverage to parent company NBC. Hire some chumps to whom rock-bottom is a step up and you've got cheap filler between the commercials.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 01:58 PM (MMC8r)

96 MSNBC == Blogivision

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 05, 2013 01:58 PM (UypUQ)

97 Vlog. ....That sounds like something that is infested with Vogons. Posted by: wheatie at April 05, 2013 05:37 PM (5kUwW) Vogon poetry is preferable to anything said on MSNBC.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 05, 2013 01:58 PM (XvHmy)

98 The scotch seems to be winning out over award-winning commentary.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 01:59 PM (6TB1Z)

99 The perfect centrist blog: http://centrist.blogspot.com/

Full to the brim with the firm convictions of a centrist.


Posted by: Dodd at April 05, 2013 01:59 PM (ZC9/i)

100 Hi Heather! Sometime I'd like to hear how you became a radish.

Posted by: Mindy at April 05, 2013 01:59 PM (wk9P4)

101 I just want to be clear: When I said MSNBC represented the triumph of the BLOGS that's not to say that MSNBC is a a success itself. Even the way I put it, the success is owned by the blogs. I think the point of my piece is rather to say that MSNBC is NOT a success -- though its embrace of the Blogger Way of Doing Things Hot, Sloppy, Dumb, & Partisan does mark the success of the Blogger Way. Just don't want people readin' stuff into what I wrote.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 01:59 PM (LCRYB)

102 It sort of does look like interstellar travel is not going to naturally arise from merely being able to get to the planets. If light is a real barrier you need those 1970s flying-city-farm-parks which get there in five generations. Plus very smart means stuff like bio weapons. And for some reason (God maybe?) the spark of real advanced complex tool use has only arisen once on this planet. Billions of species and once. And it does appear we won an astronomical jackpot in solar distance, size, eccentricity, moon, and so on... So maybe the Drake Equation is optimistic.

Posted by: Beagle at April 05, 2013 02:00 PM (sOtz/)

103 NFL Player: Four Gay Players May Come Out Simultaneously Chances of them being all tight ends?

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 02:00 PM (MMC8r)

104 So Maddow is cheap. And that blond dude is just her clone. And Toure works for Prince tips.

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 02:00 PM (r2PLg)

105 >>>Wait....are you saying there's going to be AceTV?

Ace is an inspired writer yes but have you heard ace speak? His personality is about energizing as a stoned sea sponge.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 02:00 PM (0q2P7)

106 76 I accept the analogy but MSNBC isn't really "successful" in terms of ratings. "Storage Wars" blows them away in terms of viewers. I sometimes wonder why we amplify lefties who basically have no audience of their own.

Posted by: Ken Royall at April 05, 2013 05:53 PM (x0g8a)


___________


I'm not sure what's more pathetic. That MSNBC gets 1 million viewers or Storage Wars gets 3 million viewers.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:00 PM (HDgX3)

107

O/T Seems that the Denver DA has a double standard when it comes to prosecuting threats on state politicians.

 

 http://tinyurl.com/brr29du

Posted by: Ronster at April 05, 2013 02:01 PM (4PYOi)

108 >>>Great string of posts today, ace. you're far too kind. it was a bad blogging day and I know I've been shit for at least a week if not two or three weeks. some days I just have nothing. i am extremely tired lately and don't know why.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:01 PM (LCRYB)

109 103 NFL Player: Four Gay Players May Come Out Simultaneously Chances of them being all tight ends? Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 06:00 PM (MMC8r) Touchdowns with 50% more whimsy and flair.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 02:01 PM (7xPCu)

110 Ace is an inspired writer yes but have you heard ace speak? His personality is about energizing as a stoned sea sponge. Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 06:00 PM (0q2P7) He just needs the good stuff from CAC's stash...

Posted by: Psychedelicat at April 05, 2013 02:01 PM (XvHmy)

111 96 MSNBC == Blogivision Posted by: Serious Cat at April 05, 2013 05:58 PM (UypUQ) ____________ Blova-Nation

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 02:01 PM (r2PLg)

112

>>Just don't want people readin' stuff into what I wrote.

 

Deal.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2013 02:01 PM (EEAbP)

113 And for some reason (God maybe?) the spark of real advanced complex tool use has only arisen once on this planet. Billions of species and once.

The hallmark of really advanced tool-using civilizations is that they cover their tracks really, really well.  Why?  Shut up, that's why.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 02:01 PM (6TB1Z)

114 MSNBC makes CNN-NBC-CBS-ABC seem "fair and balanced." Therein lies its value.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 05, 2013 02:01 PM (wtW72)

115 AtC....needs you contact info my Queen. Ping me at nic email, puh-leeze Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 05, 2013 05:56 PM (GwD92)


Sent.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at April 05, 2013 02:02 PM (Gk3SS)

116

>>i am extremely tired lately and don't know why.

 

Pullulating too much. 

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2013 02:02 PM (EEAbP)

117 i am extremely tired lately and don't know why. Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:01 PM (LCRYB) Lost your mojo? A diet of hobo spleen will remedy that.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 02:02 PM (7xPCu)

118 >>>And for some reason (God maybe?) the spark of real advanced complex tool use has only arisen once on this planet. Billions of species and once. is it possible mitochondria were actually a separately-arising form of life which were then subsumed into the dominant line?

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:03 PM (LCRYB)

119 109 >>>Great string of posts today, ace. you're far too kind. it was a bad blogging day and I know I've been shit for at least a week if not two or three weeks. some days I just have nothing. i am extremely tired lately and don't know why. Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:01 PM (LCRYB) ___________ Ghee--don't you remember that night where you never went to sleep? And did you slam Easter chocolate?

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 02:03 PM (r2PLg)

120 Gross! Slam--I mean EAT people.

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 02:03 PM (r2PLg)

121 NBC really screwed the pooch by not selling this pile of shit network to Al Jazeera. Jesus, if Current TV was worth half a billion, MSNBC could have been worth like 700 trillion. A sucker like that only comes along once in a lifetime.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 05, 2013 02:03 PM (+lsX1)

122 Posted by: Ronster at April 05, 2013 06:01 PM (4PYOi) Sounds about par for the course.

Posted by: Mindy at April 05, 2013 02:04 PM (wk9P4)

123

>>is it possible mitochondria were actually a separately-arising form of life which were then subsumed into the dominant line?

 

You been dipping into CAC's stash?

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2013 02:04 PM (EEAbP)

124 "119 >>>And for some reason (God maybe?) the spark of real advanced complex tool use has only arisen once on this planet. Billions of species and once. is it possible mitochondria were actually a separately-arising form of life which were then subsumed into the dominant line? Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:03 PM (LCRYB) " Well, mitochondria has its own NA.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 05, 2013 02:04 PM (wtW72)

125 Ghee--don't you remember that night where you never went to sleep?

Ghee is clarified butter.  Interesting juxtaposition.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 02:05 PM (6TB1Z)

126 That Crichton quote @84 is from a lecture so good it bears quoting again: http://is.gd/uClvis I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because youÂ’re being had. LetÂ’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus. There is no such thing as consensus science. If itÂ’s consensus, it isnÂ’t science. If itÂ’s science, it isnÂ’t consensus. Period.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 02:05 PM (j3uk1)

127 MSNBC was $187M profit not $700M in 2011, I read the wrong chart.

By comparison CNN made $595M and Fox made $870M

Still they do eek out a profit.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:05 PM (HDgX3)

128

101...I think the point of my piece is rather to say that MSNBC is NOT a success -- though its embrace of the Blogger Way of Doing Things Hot, Sloppy, Dumb, & Partisan does mark the success of the Blogger Way.

 

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 05:59 PM (LCRYB)

 

-----

 

I understood that's what you meant, Ace.

 

It's not a 'News Channel'...it's a TV Blog, masquerading as a news source.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 05, 2013 02:05 PM (5kUwW)

129 Well, mitochondria has its own NA.

Numerical aperture?  Nucleic acid?

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 02:06 PM (6TB1Z)

130 some days I just have nothing.

i am extremely tired lately and don't know why.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:01 PM (LCRYB)


Changing of the seasons?

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 05, 2013 02:06 PM (UypUQ)

131 "The idiots who watch that crap are voting dem anyway"
******
It's not about changing minds, it's about setting and controlling the narrative. Flood the channel with every key Dem-approved story. Have each host mock and pull the "how dare you!" response to any legitimate Republican/conservative message. Play each SNL skit round the clock until it becomes common knowledge that Palin said "I can see Russia from my house" and every other narrative-enforcing myth.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2013 02:06 PM (KqmXZ)

132 Wait... I don't mean eat people, either. Gawd the commas are evading me. I'm off just ate too much cake and the sugar crash is -- 3-2-1 Here.

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 02:06 PM (r2PLg)

133 I'm going to start a network that just shows youtube videos and reruns of Lizard Lick Towing. Bet Al Jazeera would pay at least 60 or 70 million for something like that.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 05, 2013 02:06 PM (+lsX1)

134 Posted by: Ronster at April 05, 2013 06:01 PM (4PYOi) Plus, since Gessler's a Republican Sec of State in a purple state, the left is very strongly motivated to do away with him.

Posted by: Mindy at April 05, 2013 02:06 PM (wk9P4)

135


>>Ghee is clarified butter.

 

Pro Tip : Clarified Butter doesn't burn as easily.

Posted by: Marlon Brando at April 05, 2013 02:06 PM (EEAbP)

136 *bounds off innocently* Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at April 05, 2013 05:52 PM (Gk3SS) --------------------------------------------------- Careful you don't bound into that new Tarantula they discovered. It is the size of a HUMAN FACE!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 05, 2013 02:07 PM (jucos)

137 incidentally, this whole Fermi Paradox/Drake equation thing makes for a diverting hour (or more, if you want to read linked stuff) of reading on Wikipedia.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:07 PM (LCRYB)

138 Still they do eek out a profit.

Fortuitous homonym.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 02:07 PM (6TB1Z)

139 "131 Well, mitochondria has its own NA. Numerical aperture? Nucleic acid? Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 06:06 PM (6TB1Z) " The latter.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 05, 2013 02:07 PM (wtW72)

140 Greek etymology of mitochondria: mitos = thread + khondrion = little granule.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 02:07 PM (7xPCu)

141 Simply sickening.

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 05, 2013 02:08 PM (BVkEs)

142 140 Still they do eek out a profit. Fortuitous homonym. Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 06:07 PM (6TB1Z) They also eke out a prophet.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 02:08 PM (7xPCu)

143 You misspelled midichlorians.  You know, The Schwartz!

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 05, 2013 02:08 PM (BAS5M)

144 I have never seen so many angry unemployed people. it is not good.

Posted by: CarlosRamirez at April 05, 2013 02:08 PM (0qVDf)

145

The molt  is a stressful time in the annual cycle of  the Ewok. 

Shedding and replacing your coat takes a lot of  energy.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2013 02:09 PM (EEAbP)

146 I'd guess a good chunk of the profit comes from Morning Joe. He gets decet ratings and they are the "right type of viewer" for ad buyers, ie high income, high education.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:09 PM (HDgX3)

147

"...and Hillary is really just such a great person, you know, just a great person with a really funny sense of humor, which doesn't show in public you know, just such a great person, she's amazing and I know she's running in 2016 and will make such a great president, because she's just such a great person you know, and our president, my god he's such a great black person you know, and he's such a great president, why he isn't getting credit for this great economy I can't understand, he's fantastic because he's such a great person you know..."

 

Guest:  "EXCUSE me Chris, can I please finish my answer?"

 

"...and Chuck Schumer is just so smart you know, why people can't see that I'll never understand, and gay marriage is such a great thing and gun control is the best idea ever, and everybody should pay more taxes you know, and Republicans are the devil, and did I mention how great Hillary is, she's such a great person you know..."

Posted by: Chris "The Auctioneer" Matthews at April 05, 2013 02:09 PM (wAQA5)

148 You know this makes you a racist, ace.

Posted by: stace, NOW what?! at April 05, 2013 02:09 PM (DX63t)

149

Posted by: Mindy at April 05, 2013 06:06 PM (wk9P4)

 

Yes, it's all about the politics.

Posted by: Ronster at April 05, 2013 02:09 PM (4PYOi)

150 148 I'd guess a good chunk of the profit comes from Morning Joe. He gets decet ratings and they are the "right type of viewer" for ad buyers, ie high income, high education....interested in how Mika's sweater puppies look that day. 

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 02:10 PM (6TB1Z)

151 Careful you don't bound into that new Tarantula they discovered. It is the size of a HUMAN FACE! Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 05, 2013 06:07 PM (jucos)


I hate all of you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at April 05, 2013 02:10 PM (Gk3SS)

152 i am extremely tired lately and don't know why.

Dibs on ammo if it's a brain tumor.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 05, 2013 02:10 PM (+lsX1)

153 @84 A lot of systems so far seem to be unlike ours. Hot gas giants in crazy orbits wiping out the habitable zones. Partly sampling error due to developing tech, but clearly exact earth matches are not to be assumed.

Posted by: Beagle at April 05, 2013 02:10 PM (sOtz/)

154 Oh wait I think I can muddle out one more comment/observation. Feeling tired/depressed? Could be the subject matter you've been looking at today. Mass murder, baby brain scrambling and MSNBC plus dying demographics race. That's a killer. Death by Blog. Blogicide.

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 02:10 PM (r2PLg)

155 If they were a blog they would be the Daily Kos. Daily Kos, Media Ma(dHa)tters, drenched in Soros' blood.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 05, 2013 02:10 PM (XYSwB)

156 95 MSNBC might make a profit, but it's because they outsource the actual work of news coverage to parent company NBC. Hire some chumps to whom rock-bottom is a step up and you've got cheap filler between the commercials.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 05:58 PM (MMC8r)


________


Then you can say that about FNC as well since they get a lot of their reporting from other NewsCorp divisions like WSJ for example.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:11 PM (HDgX3)

157 Weeee~!

"Two solar manufacturing companies, Nanosolar and SoloPower, plan major layoffs this month in California, according to filings the companies made with state regulators. "

*  *  *

"Six years after the US Department of Energy (DOE) awarded Nanosolar a US$42 million Solar American Initiative (SAI) Technology Pathway Partnership (TPP) grant, the company has advised that all 10 major tasks have been achieved or surpassed"

*  *  *

"SoloPower, in August 2011, received $197 million loan guarantee (from the DOE) to “support the retrofit of an existing building to operate a thin-film solar panel manufacturing facility in Portland, Oregon,” while claiming they would create 270 construction and 450 permanent jobs.

To make matters worse, SoloPower also snagged $40 million of Oregon taxpayer money and “despite the warning signs, the state of Oregon is continuing to put taxpayer money at risk. In December, the agency Business Oregon issued SoloPower a $20 million tax credit. The company sold the tax credit for $13.5 million in cash," reported Fox News last month. "

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 05, 2013 02:11 PM (mN8D3)

158

MSNBC exists to validate the opinions and beliefs of the Left in this country.

In that sense, it is an "unpaid" supporter of the Modern Democrat Party, Barack Obama in particular.

 

Rush once discussed his radio show, and said that while he hoped to persuade and convert people,  he did not place high expectations on this.  But what he hoped to do was encourage like-minded people that they were not alone in their beliefs, and stiffen their resolve.  Validation.

 

So the purpose of MSNBC is lost on most of the people at AoS, and similar places, because we pretty much see it as flap-doodle nonsense propaganda  (which - objectively - it is).  But Matthews in particular didn't used to be unwatchable 15 years ago. Criminy, I can remember him being on Gordon Liddy's radio show years ago and they were civil and having fun with each other discussing politics.  

 

Now he is full tilt propaganda Left.  Demented from the malaria?

 

They have gone full tilt Leftist validation, to keep the hot red center of the Left in a frothing frenzy.  This is the same function as Mother Jones, The Nation, etc.,  but TV is more graphic and visceral, and like the Ace himself says,  stupid and easy.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense.... at April 05, 2013 02:11 PM (RFeQD)

159 "148 I'd guess a good chunk of the profit comes from Morning Joe. He gets decet ratings and they are the "right type of viewer" for ad buyers, ie high income, high education. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 06:09 PM (HDgX3) " What sort of viewers did Soledad use to get? I wonder if that might have something to do with why she was fired.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 05, 2013 02:11 PM (wtW72)

160 There is plenty of work in the USA. I came as an asylum seeker and have been making good money.

Posted by: CarlosRamirez at April 05, 2013 02:12 PM (0qVDf)

161

109...some days I just have nothing.

i am extremely tired lately and don't know why.
 

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:01 PM (LCRYB)

 

--------

 

Vitamin B-12 tabs, sublingual...under the tongue.

 

Ever tried them, Ace?

They might help.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 05, 2013 02:12 PM (5kUwW)

162 158 I like MSNBC because it reminds me so much of The Price Is Right. Or the Muppets. Posted by: Low Information Voter at April 05, 2013 06:11 PM (vbh31) It seems more vaudevillian than that.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 02:12 PM (7xPCu)

163 >>>A lot of systems so far seem to be unlike ours. Hot gas giants in crazy orbits wiping out the habitable zones. Partly sampling error due to developing tech, but clearly exact earth matches are not to be assumed. it should be noted that we can only spot super-large jupiter-plus planets at the moment, by and large. We generally infer planets by gravity effects and occlusion. So our technical capabilities bias the "Known Planets" to the mega-jovian and often weird (in as much as I imagine wildly eliptical orbits will produce more wiggle and easier detection).

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:12 PM (LCRYB)

164 138. I wonder if they make face sized clown suits for it

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 02:12 PM (Yu5xN)

165

MSNBC is nothing more than the "tingle" network.

 

When someone refers to them, you need only chuckle or laugh or roll your eyes.

 

When is the last time they "broke" any NEWS????

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 05, 2013 02:13 PM (tVTLU)

166

110103 NFL Player: Four Gay Players May Come Out Simultaneously

 

 

 

Please Please Please let one of them be Jay Cutler. I would laugh my ass off. Of course I know he isn't but still.............

Posted by: Molly K. at April 05, 2013 02:13 PM (Gjit/)

167 >>>is it possible mitochondria were actually a separately-arising form of life which were then subsumed into the dominant line?

I fully believe there were separate. Not subsumed by the "dominant" form (One would suggest plant eukaryotic life is at least as dominant as "animal" life) but can only exist in what is very close to the original primordial soup as they are essentially unevolved life forms. So they made homes within the forming life conglomerates known as animal eukaryote cells. The animal cell then becomes less of a singular dominating structure and more of a community of proteins that all bonded together in one housing development. The processing of TCP of course being the most important factor in determining cellular function, as Mitochondria based eukaryote needed to continually find new sources of sugar to make into TCP, so animal eukarote cell communities collectively evolved around getting that sugar from a variety of places, hence animation, and became the animal kingdom.

I think something very similar happened with plant eukaryotes and chloroplasts. Again the defining nature of the cell became acquiring TCP. Which chloroplasts could do from just being exposed to sunlight driving the evolution of plant eukaryotes in the direction they went. Static structure specifically.

 

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 02:13 PM (0q2P7)

168 One thing MSNBC does well is get webviews. Every little clip of them pushes the MMFA Uncle Soros line into another set of eyeballs. Every Ray Maddow vid gives another occupier their talking points for the day. In ideological terms, low ratings don't matter if you're getting the saturation.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 02:13 PM (MMC8r)

169 >>> Vitamin B-12 tabs, sublingual...under the tongue. Ever tried them, Ace? They might help. I DID! RD got me to try that. Nothin'!

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:13 PM (LCRYB)

170 @119 ace I think that is a theory. Early cellular evolution needs work. Voila DNA!

Posted by: Beagle at April 05, 2013 02:13 PM (sOtz/)

171 Blogicide. Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 06:10 PM (r2PLg) Yah. Ace has nerves of steel. As do some of the commenters, here. I always have to break away, workout midday, then blare my music and dance. And, an occasional nip on the scotch to readjust to me. Once winter is over, I'm mostly outside and working on projects. Winter gloom still here, too.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 05, 2013 02:13 PM (XYSwB)

172 Its a magnet for stupid, because stupid is by nature easy.

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting on the Revolution, or something at April 05, 2013 02:13 PM (VVO+n)

173 Michael Crichton pretty much eviscerated the Drake Equation as no better than astrology.

He's right, but he misses the appeal of the thing. It's an insane cult eschatology.

"The superior-to-us (and by us I mean you) is out there, says here. And when we find it, which it says here we will (unless you're so sinfully repugnant you're making it hide from us), that's THE END OF YOUR PUNY LITTLE WORLD! So, might as well give up on it now, right? Says here. And give it to science. Or to its local representative.

"Here's our current list of sins you should go and do no more, so as not to offend our coming Lord(s). It is also science."

Posted by: oblig. at April 05, 2013 02:13 PM (cePv8)

174 Now he is full tilt propaganda Left. Demented from the malaria?

Syphilis, more likely.

Posted by: Al Capone at April 05, 2013 02:13 PM (6TB1Z)

175 Vitamin B-12 tabs, sublingual...under the tongue. Ever tried them, Ace? They might help. Posted by: wheatie at April 05, 2013 06:12 PM (5kUwW) "B-12"? Is that the new street name for LSD?

Posted by: Psychedelicat at April 05, 2013 02:13 PM (XvHmy)

176 161 Matthews hated Clinton,so he was watchable when he ripped Clinton constantly.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 02:13 PM (9XBK2)

177 109...some days I just have nothing. i am extremely tired lately and don't know why.
Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:01 PM (LCRYB)




Ever have your thyroid checked?



Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 05, 2013 02:14 PM (X6akg)

178 LOLcats = MSNBC = BuzzFeed

Posted by: Y-not at April 05, 2013 02:14 PM (5H6zj)

179 When is the last time they "broke" any NEWS???? They're usually the first to report deceptively edited video.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 02:14 PM (MMC8r)

180
What sort of viewers did Soledad use to get?

I wonder if that might have something to do with why she was fired.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 05, 2013 06:11 PM (wtW72)


__________


No comment.

Posted by: CNN Chief Executive Officer at April 05, 2013 02:14 PM (HDgX3)

181 Speaking of MSKGB and children, here Melissa Harris-Perry explains that all of your children are belong to us.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/bssgsjl

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 05, 2013 02:15 PM (VlXYw)

182 On the other hand, even THEY make fun of Keith Olbermann.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 02:15 PM (piMMO)

183 Personally...

I think the Huffington Post is more of a challenge/problem  for the right than MSNBC.  A lot of people perceive it as 'middle-of-the-road' and check it daily from work.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 05, 2013 02:15 PM (UypUQ)

184 >> "The superior-to-us (and by us I mean you) is out there, says here. And when we find it, which it says here we will (unless you're so sinfully repugnant you're making it hide from us), that's THE END OF YOUR PUNY LITTLE WORLD! So, might as well give up on it now, right? Says here. And give it to science. Or to its local representative. "Here's our current list of sins you should go and do no more, so as not to offend our coming Lord(s). It is also science." ... Oh for God's sakes. Is each and every thing a Conspiracy to Deny God? Good Lord Almighty. Pardon the blasphemy in this context. There is literally nothing someone can say, short of praising God, that cannot be taken as some kind of Nietschean effort to kill Him.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:15 PM (LCRYB)

185 My  answer for Fermi's Paradox:God created the universe for humanity,the only intelligent life he created.There may be animals out there but nothing intelligent.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 02:15 PM (9XBK2)

186 182 LOLcats = MSNBC = BuzzFeed



*angry face*

Posted by: Grumpy lolcat at April 05, 2013 02:15 PM (lVPtV)

187 >>>Ever have your thyroid checked? no. I should. I'll actually do this. Thanks.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:16 PM (LCRYB)

188 Ace ain't no ways tired.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 05, 2013 02:16 PM (c/58R)

189 170. Bear h8r

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 02:16 PM (Yu5xN)

190 Ever try blow?

Posted by: Preezy Choom at April 05, 2013 02:16 PM (lVPtV)

191 LOLcats = MSNBC = BuzzFeed Posted by: Y-not at April 05, 2013 06:14 PM (5H6zj) I can haz socializm? http://tinyurl.com/c53mroa

Posted by: Psychedelicat at April 05, 2013 02:17 PM (XvHmy)

192 Ace ain't no ways tired. Posted by: USS Diversity

The word is TARRD.  Racist.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 02:17 PM (6TB1Z)

193 He's right, but he misses the appeal of the thing. It's an insane cult eschatology. Actually he notes precisely that. I take the hard view that science involves the creation of testable hypotheses. The Drake equation cannot be tested and therefore SETI is not science. SETI is unquestionably a religion. Faith is defined as the firm belief in something for which there is no proof. The belief that the Koran is the word of God is a matter of faith. The belief that God created the universe in seven days is a matter of faith. The belief that there are other life forms in the universe is a matter of faith. There is not a single shred of evidence for any other life forms, and in forty years of searching, none has been discovered.There is absolutely no evidentiary reason to maintain this belief. SETI is a religion.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 02:17 PM (j3uk1)

194 194 Ever try blow? Posted by: Preezy Choom at April 05, 2013 06:16 PM (lVPtV) That's suspiciously double entendre-like.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 02:18 PM (7xPCu)

195 I know I was going fo tahhrd.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 05, 2013 02:18 PM (c/58R)

196 187 Personally...

I think the Huffington Post is more of a challenge/problem for the right than MSNBC. A lot of people perceive it as 'middle-of-the-road' and check it daily from work.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 05, 2013 06:15 PM (UypUQ)


___________


Yep. That's because HuffPo does a lot of non-political stuff like entertainment, sports, comedy. So people go there for non=-news stuff and get sucked into the news stories without realizing this is a far left operation. I think the blaze is trying to to something similar. It's effective.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:18 PM (HDgX3)

197 I wonder if they make face sized clown suits for it Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 06:12 PM (Yu5xN) --------------------------------------------------------- What a fantastic circus that would be! I can see AtC joining us under the big top for hours of petrifying, horrifying FUN! *I am deathly afraid of clowns by the way.... I think it's called Coulrophobia.*

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 05, 2013 02:18 PM (jucos)

198 I'm stupid, and I like hot sloppy things. Probly why I'm here so much.

Posted by: Truman North at April 05, 2013 02:18 PM (I2LwF)

199

steevy, I am not so sure that Matthews hated Clinton. In those days he was an  "open"  Democrat, but he did care about the nature of the brand, and thought that Clinton was tarnishing it.  Now, he doesn't care about any sense of perosnal integrity or that sort of thing.  It's power for power's sake, and a tingle up your leg, when Barack speaks.

 

It's the malaria, I tell you. 

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense.... at April 05, 2013 02:18 PM (RFeQD)

200 Now he is full tilt propaganda Left. Demented from the malaria? Chrissie has been stuck in the same backwater for twenty-years. There is no 'up' for him, but he's desperately going to cling to whatever audience he can still muster, and, on that network, it's rabidly Left. And remember, Matthews IS a Democrat, even professionally. He liked conservatives when they were on top. Now his party is running roughshod, and he knows he has to stay relevant with them.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 02:19 PM (MMC8r)

201 If you go in for a thyroid check, don't let the doctor talk you into a prostate exam for like, just an extra 10 bucks. It's a total scam.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 05, 2013 02:19 PM (+lsX1)

202 *I am deathly afraid of clowns by the way.... I think it's called Coulrophobia.*

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 05, 2013 06:18 PM (jucos



Me:  spiders, clowns, puppets.  That order.  Oh, and I despise mimes. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 05, 2013 02:19 PM (lVPtV)

203

>>>I like hot sloppy things.

 

How you doin'?

Posted by: Meggie Macs FUPA at April 05, 2013 02:19 PM (EEAbP)

204 "180 161 Matthews hated Clinton,so he was watchable when he ripped Clinton constantly. Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 06:13 PM (9XBK2) " Is that because he wouldn't let him... you know. ?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 05, 2013 02:20 PM (wtW72)

205 The NFL has been alternatively lifestyled for a long, long time.  (ignore the cheerleader beards).

http://preview.tinyurl.com/3gnsasp

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 05, 2013 02:20 PM (VlXYw)

206 AceTV?  All Kate Upton all the time?

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 05, 2013 02:20 PM (VlXYw)

207 some days I just have nothing. i am extremely tired lately and don't know why. Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:01 PM (LCRYB) sunshine wish I could take you to the beach you can blog from there

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 05, 2013 02:21 PM (XYSwB)

208 "184 What sort of viewers did Soledad use to get? I wonder if that might have something to do with why she was fired. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 05, 2013 06:11 PM (wtW72) __________ No comment. Posted by: CNN Chief Executive Officer at April 05, 2013 06:14 PM (HDgX3) " Didn't you use to be more loquacious? :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 05, 2013 02:21 PM (wtW72)

209 Oh, and I despise mimes. Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 05, 2013 06:19 PM (lVPtV) Mystery Man Maims Mimes! Millions Make Merry! Two points if you name that reference.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 02:21 PM (7xPCu)

210

What would have happened if that MSNBC interview went a little longer:

“Do you think George Bush is a bad man or a good man? You don’t think he’s a good man, do you? No. That’s right, he’s a very bad man.”

Posted by: Hepcat at April 05, 2013 02:21 PM (nPbm2)

211 191 Ace, It could also be your increased overall consumption of birthday cake sir... We're all getting older and the clock seldom runs backwards.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-I'd buy that for a dollra at April 05, 2013 02:21 PM (Tovmf)

212 some days I just have nothing. i am extremely tired lately and don't know why. Watch out for the depression, Ace.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 02:21 PM (MMC8r)

213 BTW I've made a 180 on the issue.I used to think it was ridiculous to believe we were alone with all those stars and all those planets that must orbit those stars.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 02:22 PM (9XBK2)

214

You think you've seen MSNBC floating in the gutter?  Watch the video segment today of some MSNBC trollop interviewing a 5 year old about gay marriage.  Coaxing her along.

Disgusting.  I guess her parents Bruce and Monty thought that it was just fabulous!

Posted by: Cheri at April 05, 2013 02:22 PM (G+Wff)

215 Me: spiders, clowns, puppets. That order. Oh, and I despise mimes. Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 05, 2013 06:19 PM (lVPtV) ------------------------------------------------------------ .

Posted by: Marcel Marceau at April 05, 2013 02:22 PM (jucos)

216 193170. Bear h8r

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 06:16 PM (Yu5xN)

 

 

 

Nah, just a Cutler hater. Bronco fan

Posted by: Molly K. at April 05, 2013 02:22 PM (Gjit/)

217 206. And if he does get conned into a prostate exam.... Protip: if he has both hands on your shoulders something is seriously wrong

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 02:22 PM (Yu5xN)

218

The Huffington Post does what Kos and others thought they could do, which was mainstream Leftist thought by pouring into the everyday and mundane.

 

Politics is everything and everything is political.  That is Marxist - Leninist fundmentals.  The undertone of Leftist thought permeates almost everything written at HuffPo, and certainly is evident in the comments.

 

They are indeed fighting die Kultur Kampf on a wider front than say, Oliver Willis (although that is a pretty wide backside he's got goin' on).

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense.... at April 05, 2013 02:22 PM (RFeQD)

219 Ace,

It's all about the diet. Eat better you'll feel better. And by better I mean reduce the amount of processed food you eat.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:22 PM (HDgX3)

220 148 I'd guess a good chunk of the profit comes from Morning Joe. He gets decet ratings and they are the "right type of viewer" for ad buyers, ie high income, high education. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 06:09 PM (HDgX3) Probably not. Fox and Friends got 919/216 yesterday. Morning Joe got 293/84. That's overall/25-54 demo. Only Matthews and Maddow fail to be doubled up in the demos by Fox.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 02:23 PM (T0NGe)

221 Yah. Ace has nerves of steel. As do some of the commenters, here. I always have to break away, workout midday, then blare my music and dance. ____________ Thanks artisan'ette those sound like some good ideas. --btw This video performance from Van Halen is pretty funny. The dance moves alone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LipG9DPTyfk Loved this comment- stargazer1733 2 days ago Two sheep died in the making of DLR's costume. It's beyond parody . Damn it David Lee Roth. ·

Posted by: tasker at April 05, 2013 02:23 PM (r2PLg)

222 He's right, but he misses the appeal of the thing. It's an insane cult eschatology. "The superior-to-us (and by us I mean you) is out there, says here. And when we find it, which it says here we will (unless you're so sinfully repugnant you're making it hide from us), that's THE END OF YOUR PUNY LITTLE WORLD! So, might as well give up on it now, right? Says here. And give it to science. Or to its local representative. "Here's our current list of sins you should go and do no more, so as not to offend our coming Lord(s). It is also science." Posted by: oblig. at April 05, 2013 06:13 PM (cePv I have no idea what this all means. Seriously. What are you going on about?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 05, 2013 02:23 PM (XYSwB)

223 in fairness to oblig., it did occur to me three weeks ago that people either believe in God or Aliens. Either you believe the creation of life is a single event of divine provenance -- in which case you believe in God, but not Aliens -- or you believe it came about due to natural mechanical processes, and given the observable universe contains over a sextillion of stars (and that's just what's *observable*), life, no matter how improbable, would HAVE TO arise on other worlds. Even if it were a one in a billion thing... well, with a sextillion stars, you have a lot of rolls of the dice. But this is not the same thing as claiming that people are creating these ideas *with the intent* of disproving your God. Just FYI: The godless do not spend much time thinking about God at all.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:23 PM (LCRYB)

224 @213. Opus with an olive loaf.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Assault CAD Monkey at April 05, 2013 02:23 PM (K+mtQ)

225 I have no idea what this all means.
Seriously. What are you going on about?

Good, it's not just me.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 02:24 PM (6TB1Z)

226 >>>It's all about the diet. Eat better you'll feel better. And by better I mean reduce the amount of processed food you eat. I eat pretty well. Paleo/atkins, pretty strong on it. it's not that. it would be the lack of exercise (hell, lack of MOTION -- when you don't have to move to do your job, you tend not to move much) or somethign like the thyroid. I cured my damn apnea and that didn't do dick.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:24 PM (LCRYB)

227 "188 >> "The superior-to-us (and by us I mean you) is out there, says here. And when we find it, which it says here we will (unless you're so sinfully repugnant you're making it hide from us), that's THE END OF YOUR PUNY LITTLE WORLD! So, might as well give up on it now, right? Says here. And give it to science. Or to its local representative. "Here's our current list of sins you should go and do no more, so as not to offend our coming Lord(s). It is also science." ... Oh for God's sakes. Is each and every thing a Conspiracy to Deny God? Good Lord Almighty. Pardon the blasphemy in this context. There is literally nothing someone can say, short of praising God, that cannot be taken as some kind of Nietschean effort to kill Him. Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:15 PM (LCRYB) " Who knows. But "ETism" was clearly pushed as / functioned as a substitute for more traditional forms of religion/Christianity. (Although that's mostly over now. People have short attention spans, I guess.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 05, 2013 02:24 PM (wtW72)

228 IN THIS HOUSE MSNBC STAYS ON 24/7.  THE OTHER TV IS ON CURRENT.

KID KNOWS NEVER TO CHANGE THEM.  EVER!

Posted by: KayInMaine at April 05, 2013 02:24 PM (3w4WK)

229 in fairness to oblig., it did occur to me three weeks ago that people either believe in God or Aliens.

Tom Cruise. Boom.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 05, 2013 02:24 PM (+lsX1)

230 >>>There is literally nothing someone can say, short of praising God, that cannot be taken as some kind of Nietschean effort to kill Him.

Make a statement, any statement one of the 6 billion+ religious folks on the planet will believe you are in some way insulting/denying their god(s). I'm Catholic and an Engineer, and have been accused on more than one occasion of

1. Denying God exists.
2. Insulting God by relaying facts or even stories from the OT.
3. Not being Christian because Catholic's aren't Christian. (Wait What?!)

If I can't escape it as a Catholic. What hope do you have? Shrug it off.

All that said. A number of science minded Evangelical atheists do like to latch onto and twist any new found idea of science into their ontological silver bullet with which to slay God. So it does go both ways.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 02:25 PM (0q2P7)

231 Just FYI: The godless do not spend much time thinking about God at all. Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:23 PM (LCRYB) Some sure seem to spend a lot of time being hostile to the idea of God, and trying to think up clever ways of disproving God.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 02:25 PM (7xPCu)

232 Drake Equation basically means take some really, really, really huge number, then multiply by some small number, then multiply it by another small number, then multiply by some small number, then multiply by some small number, and end up with a number which is full of shit. Then seek huge numbers of Federal dollars. Not to say I don't think there is life on other planets. Just that current technology can't get us there in anything approaching a normal lifetime. Unless we begin to measure lifetimes in light years.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at April 05, 2013 02:25 PM (feFL6)

233 The godless do not spend much time thinking about God at all. No, we think about Obama.

Posted by: MSNBC at April 05, 2013 02:26 PM (j3uk1)

234 The dance moves alone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LipG9DPTyfk hehe, pre-chest hair shaving

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 05, 2013 02:26 PM (XYSwB)

235 I don't think intelligent alien life entirely precludes the existence of God.It would not shatter my faith if we were contacted tomorrow.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 02:26 PM (9XBK2)

236 I like how on morning Joe the camera is constantly zooming in on and rotating around the set of what is basically people sitting at a desk.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 05, 2013 02:26 PM (UypUQ)

237 But "ETism" was clearly pushed as / functioned as a substitute for more traditional forms of religion/Christianity.

I despise Steven Spielberg and all his works. 

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 02:26 PM (6TB1Z)

238 >>>Who knows. But "ETism" was clearly pushed as / functioned as a substitute for more traditional forms of religion/Christianity. no it wasn't pushed. What happens is the moment you're not certain that the Hand of God created life, that leaves open what did, and then that naturally turns to "could it be replicated in other places?" It wasn't "pushed" as a substitute for religion, though I have heard this conspiracy theory-- read it in a Jack chick tract, actually, when I was being testified to by evangelicals. Once you're NOT convinced that God created everything, the mind naturally turns to what did. You're getting cause and effect backwards.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:27 PM (LCRYB)

239 The NFL has been alternatively lifestyled for a long, long time. (ignore the cheerleader beards). *** Speaking of the NFL, the Falcons signed that young man, Brian Banks, who had been falsely imprisoned for rape. It's a nice turn of events and hopefully he'll actually get to play. Still. Why isn't that, uh, bitch, in prison now?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 02:27 PM (piMMO)

240 I live on hot dogs and PBR for breakfast, nachos and vodka for dinner. And I feel great! So skip lunch, and you'll be fit as a fiddle.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 02:27 PM (7xPCu)

241 I don't think intelligent alien life entirely precludes the existence of God.It would not shatter my faith if we were contacted tomorrow. **** Me either. Not by a long shot.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 02:27 PM (piMMO)

242

84 Michael Crichton pretty much eviscerated the Drake Equation as no better than astrology. The equation contains so many terms that are completely unverifiable that it's meaningless.

 

----------

 

You say that like it's a bad thing.



 

Posted by: Michael Mann at April 05, 2013 02:27 PM (IrbU4)

243 I cured my damn apnea and that didn't do dick. Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:24 PM (LCRYB) ------------------------------------------------------ CPAP? Saved my life.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 05, 2013 02:27 PM (jucos)

244 I cured my damn apnea and that didn't do dick.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:24 PM (LCRYB




How did you cure your apnea?  My husband has it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 05, 2013 02:27 PM (lVPtV)

245 Actually, if MSNBC doesn't convince you that aliens are here and living among us, nothing will.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 02:27 PM (j3uk1)

246 Time for Friday night dinner/movie. Tonight: Silver Linings Playbook *cheers all

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 05, 2013 02:28 PM (XYSwB)

247 "189 My answer for Fermi's Paradox:God created the universe for humanity,the only intelligent life he created.There may be animals out there but nothing intelligent. Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 06:15 PM (9XBK2) " Everything is (in some sense) God's will/part of God's plan. Therefore, if there are other intelligent lifeforms out there, and we ever meet, it's all just part of God's plan. (Everything in the material universe proceeds from the Big Bang, or perhaps even more directly from God.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 05, 2013 02:28 PM (wtW72)

248 >>> don't think intelligent alien life entirely precludes the existence of God.It would not shatter my faith if we were contacted tomorrow. no not entirely. it's perfectly possible God created life elsewhere -- and it's just not mentioned in the Bible, as the Bible's about OUR world. Still, the two things don't SEEM to fit together well. They don't FEEL like they gel. But there is actually nothing that logically forbids Gods and Aliens both.* * Gods and Aliens is a great title for a book and I claim it.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:28 PM (LCRYB)

249 "I am deathly afraid of clowns by the way.... I think it's called Coulrophobia."

- - - - - - - - -

Clowns are evil. They are Satan's spawn.  They possess terrible black powers.  How else can you explain so many of them fitting in a tiny car. 

They are evil incarnate.

Posted by: Hepcat at April 05, 2013 02:28 PM (nPbm2)

250 231. Ace, it may sound cheesy but get one of those video workouts like px90 It'll charge you up and get your health up and only 30 min a day Should bring you out of any funk

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 02:28 PM (ZfBzk)

251 >>> How did you cure your apnea? My husband has it. the conventional way, cpap.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:29 PM (LCRYB)

252 Ace, I'm not sure how old you are (since you spend so much time pulling our legs about it), but definitely go to the doc and get a blood work up. In addition to thyroid, you might want to have them check your testosterone and of course the blood sugars etc.

Posted by: Y-not at April 05, 2013 02:29 PM (5H6zj)

253 Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 05, 2013 02:29 PM (wtW72)

254 Probably not. Fox and Friends got 919/216 yesterday. Morning Joe got 293/84. That's overall/25-54 demo.

Only Matthews and Maddow fail to be doubled up in the demos by Fox.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 06:23 PM (T0NGe)


__________


I said a good chunk of MSNBC profit comes from Morning Joe. I didn't say Morning Joe beats Fox & Friends. Look at ads on MJ vs F&F. MJ is BMWs, F&F is Chevy Trucks. BMW audiences cost more per viewer than Chevy audiences. This is the same phenomenon with Mad Men. It gets pretty piss poor ratings compared to other shows in the same time slot. But look at the ads. All high end stuff like BMW, Nordstrom. The small MM audience is more valuable than the gargantuan audience for whatever's on NBC or ABC at the same time on a per viewer basis.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:29 PM (HDgX3)

255 You're getting cause and effect backwards.

Maybe, but I still despise him. 

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 02:29 PM (6TB1Z)

256 >>>It'll charge you up and get your health up and only 30 min a day Should bring you out of any funk I know I should. What I need is a Pill that makes me want to START doing this. You know?

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:29 PM (LCRYB)

257 no. I should.

I'll actually do this. Thanks.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:16 PM (LCRYB)



Untreated thyroid problems can cause a whole shit load of other problems.....one is fatigue.  Others are heart palpitations, depression, weight gain, hair loss, dry skin, etc.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 05, 2013 02:30 PM (X6akg)

258

MSNBC trollop interviewing a 5 year old about gay marriage. Coaxing her along.

 

Cheri, I think the trollop was interviewing her daughter. 

Posted by: Ronster at April 05, 2013 02:30 PM (4PYOi)

259 >>>Either you believe the creation of life is a single event of divine provenance -- in which case you believe in God, but not Aliens

Whoa! How did that become mutually exclusive? I really see no conflict in believing aliens exist (someplace else, not here) and God exists. I don't remember himsaying "I'm going to tell you everything I do with my spare time"

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 02:30 PM (0q2P7)

260 4 years old, but our domestic terrorists/university profs are in the society pages: http://goo.gl/EEtmH These people, and I mean New Yorkers, are freaking nuts! After the 9/11 shit and their big love affair with commies through out history, I will have trouble giving a shit when their next disaster hits.

Posted by: Waldo at April 05, 2013 02:31 PM (xY6Ip)

261 Many things can cause fatigue: low thyroid vitamin D deficiency low testosterone depression many others A regular physical is a smart and fairly cheap investment. Standard bloodwork should be able to rule out most common causes Remember. Depression should only be considered after the physical causes are ruled out. Low thyroid can cause depression, for example. Depression is a symptom of many illnesses, as well as a cause. Some people seem to refuse to accept a possible mental health diagnosis -- but the reverse is also true. Some people jump straight away to a depression/anxiety self-diagnosis without bothering with standard blood tests to check for common ailments. Don't be that guy.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 05, 2013 02:31 PM (ZPrif)

262 253 Yeah,I clarified that at my comment 239.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 02:32 PM (9XBK2)

263 Can one not believe in God but believe he didn't actually create the Universe?

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 05, 2013 02:32 PM (UypUQ)

264

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Posted by: Target Stores at April 05, 2013 02:32 PM (5kUwW)

265 The national weather service has issued a "red flag warning" for brooklyn and queens.  I've never seen a "red flag warning" and someone on fb said it has something to do with fires?

Anyone know anything about it?

TIA

Sorry to be off topic but it's freaky

Posted by: Caustic at April 05, 2013 02:32 PM (/b8+5)

266 Ace, go beat the crap out of a hippie...that's fountain of youth type shit right there.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 02:32 PM (7xPCu)

267 mike the moose, I acknowledged that in 253.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:33 PM (LCRYB)

268

I think that Frank Drake was kinda drunk one night up at Greenbank Radio Observatory up in West Virginia where he worked, and dreamed up the Drake equation, and then his pal Carl Cosmos ran with it  (I read it first in a book that Carl wrote in 1967 "The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe")

And then he really couldn't take it back, so there it is.

 

Meaningless?  Who knows?  Is life meaningless?  You see a lot of echos of that in stuff that Carl Cosmos wrote, like  "Contact".

 

I think that it is hard for civilizations to keep their technology, for obvious reasons we are seeing right now in our so-called civilization.  And technological civilizations have to exist simultaneously and near enough to each other to validate their existence.  If they are more than a few hundred light years apart, how do you carry on a conversation? 

"Hi, how YOU doin'?"

two hundred years (or more) for an answer, in which time the questioner is dead. And that is unless somebody changes the station or lost interest.

"Not bad, what about you?"

All this babble about wormholes and super-light speed travel is just so much babble until somebody comes up with a better theory about how the universe works. Until then, we're stuck with the limits of  the speed of c  (300k km/sec).

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense.... at April 05, 2013 02:33 PM (RFeQD)

269 261. Ha Do it the ncj Have a nagging wife constantly nagging you're too skinny

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 02:33 PM (ZfBzk)

270 I just hope that any aliens searching for intelligent life on this planet to conquer discover what I have.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at April 05, 2013 02:33 PM (feFL6)

271 I eat pretty well. Paleo/atkins, pretty strong on it.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 06:24 PM (LCRYB)


________


Cool. I'm doing that as well. Not 100% but essentially no bread, no pasta, no rice, no potatoes. But most importantly I try to avoid as best I can anything that comes in a package.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:33 PM (HDgX3)

272 *facepalm* @271

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 05, 2013 02:34 PM (lVPtV)

273 Spartacus 4:22  martians are bullshit, but it's not that big of a deal if you want to believe in it, whatever.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 05, 2013 02:35 PM (+lsX1)

274 What I need is a Pill that makes me want to START doing this. --- Since you work from home (?) so you presumably have the time to take care of one, maybe you should consider getting a dog. Great motivators for getting some exercise. Also, an incline treadmill at home made a big difference for us. Mr Y-not listens to music; I put on some cheese-tastic program when I use it.

Posted by: Y-not at April 05, 2013 02:35 PM (5H6zj)

275 Just FYI: The godless do not spend much time thinking about God at all. Some of them write a lot of books that say otherwise, Ace.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 02:35 PM (MMC8r)

276 I said a good chunk of MSNBC profit comes from Morning Joe. I didn't say Morning Joe beats Fox Friends. Look at ads on MJ vs FF. MJ is BMWs, FF is Chevy Trucks. I'll take your word for what appears on those shows, I don't watch any of them. However, Fox revenue is four times that of MSNBC. http://tinyurl.com/b5jr7ux Go to "cable economics".

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 02:36 PM (T0NGe)

277 Posted by: Caustic at April 05, 2013 06:32 PM (/b8+5)



Ya know, the national weather service has a website.  You can put your zip code in and it tells you everything happening weather wise in your area.



It's a pip.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 05, 2013 02:36 PM (X6akg)

278 >>>mike the moose, I acknowledged that in 253.

I like to call that "comment lag"
Someone else said it, and it got responded to, before I could pull my head out of work far enough to finish typing my comment and hit post. I know, I should concentrate on work less. But I do like to eat.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 02:36 PM (0q2P7)

279 Why isn't that, uh, bitch, in prison now?

***

A few years ago,  kept an innocent guy locked in jail for about six months on the word of his alleged victim, his ex-wife.  She contended that he had raped her at gunpoint.  He was no angel, in fact, he was exactly the kind of guy who would do something like that.  I had no trouble believing her.  She testified at preliminary hearing.  Then the DNA came back proving that he had not had sex with her.  We confronted her.  She admitted to lying because they had a custody hearing within the next few days and she thought ti would be better if he were in jail instead of in court.  She was charged with perjury for lying at the PH but that was not my case.  I told the prosecuting DA that she should be locked up at least as long as he was but she got essentially nothing, ten days or so as I recall.

And the punchline is that the DNA that proved that she was lying also proved that she had been doing the nasty with her sister's fiance.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 05, 2013 02:36 PM (VlXYw)

280 >>>Can one not believe in God but believe he didn't actually create the Universe? one could and many have. Previous religions did not necessarily credit cosmological creation to existing gods. Possibly past gods or Titans. But monotheistic (and dualistic) religions tends to put everything into one god, including creation. Polytheisim was compatible with gods with a "limited portfolio," as it were, different mysteries attributed to different gods. But I'm not sure there's any monotheistic religion of any size that doesn't credit the singular God with Creation in some way. Watchmaker interpretations of God still credit God with creation, albeit indirectly and "behind the curtain" and such.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:36 PM (LCRYB)

281 >>>Just FYI: The godless do not spend much time thinking about God at all.

Go hang out on /r/Atheism and tell me that.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 02:37 PM (0q2P7)

282 Last I check about 5% of Americans take thyroid meds. It's one of the more common ailments. The immune system has an unfortunate tendency to go wonky and attack the thyroid gland. It happens to a lot of women during childbirth. Immune system gets confused and kills the thyroid. The treatment for low thyroid is taking daily thyroid replacement hormones. As medical conditions go it is very common and the standard treatments are very effective.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 05, 2013 02:37 PM (ZPrif)

283 I spell it "kindergarten" - did it lose the "t" ?

Posted by: SarahW at April 05, 2013 02:37 PM (LYwCh)

284 >>>Since you work from home (?) so you presumably have the time to take care of one, maybe you should consider getting a dog. Great motivators for getting some exercise. so weird. I just thought of that. Here's what I thought: That idea is like a woman who's having problems with her boyfriend and figures a pregancy will bring them closer. What I figured is that this would be Bad For the Dog.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:37 PM (LCRYB)

285 Anyone familiar with the Sensa diet stuff?  I prepare fresh veggies, salads (make my own dressings), fish, chicken.  In other words, healthy meals, light on carbs.

My husband cannot stop with a healthy serving.  And I have no idea what crap he eats for lunch, although his office manager swears he "eats like a bird" when he's in the office.

Anyone? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 05, 2013 02:38 PM (lVPtV)

286 Hahahahaha..... I am cause of your red flag warning round eye. Yoo will be sooooooo sulplized.

Posted by: Kim Jong Un at April 05, 2013 02:38 PM (jucos)

287 No one watches MSNBC.  If that's the triumph of the blogs, blogs suck.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at April 05, 2013 02:39 PM (ZMzpb)

288 >>>Some of them write a lot of books that say otherwise, Ace. eh, some. Irreligious Maniacs. SarahW, No, that was just my bloggy slapdashedness. I've fixed.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:39 PM (LCRYB)

289 Do people watch that crap?

Posted by: Alex who does not watch MSNBC at April 05, 2013 02:40 PM (aPAIU)

290 I eat whatever I want whenever I want.Smoke and drink too.If my life is 20-30 years shorter because of that,I'm okay with it.I'm not fat anyway.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 02:40 PM (9XBK2)

291
My husband cannot stop with a healthy serving. And I have no idea what crap he eats for lunch, although his office manager swears he "eats like a bird" when he's in the office.

Anyone?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 05, 2013 06:38 PM (lVPtV)



I'd avoid that Sensa stuff.  He might need more protein if he's not feeling full....up the meat.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 05, 2013 02:41 PM (X6akg)

292 I'll take your word for what appears on those shows, I don't watch any of them.

However, Fox revenue is four times that of MSNBC.

http://tinyurl.com/b5jr7ux

Go to "cable economics".

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 06:36 PM (T0NGe)


_____________


FNC beats everyone hands down. It's the only game in town for non-let wing news. Of course it will get good ratings. It will be interesting to see what happens if a center/right competitor to fox gets up and running.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:41 PM (HDgX3)

293 236 Drake Equation basically means take some really, really, really huge number, then multiply by some small number, then multiply it by another small number, then multiply by some small number, then multiply by some small number, and end up with a number which is full of shit.

Then seek huge numbers of Federal dollars.

Not to say I don't think there is life on other planets. Just that current technology can't get us there in anything approaching a normal lifetime. Unless we begin to measure lifetimes in light years.
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet at April 05, 2013 06:25 PM (feFL6)

I don't get why people are so down on Drake's Equation. It's just an attempt to quantify how much potential detectible intelligent alien life there is in the universe. It was mostly a thought tool to break down what would be required for us to find ETs into individual factors that could be debated and estimated separately. If people come up with different results they can always compare their parameter values and figure out where their assumptions diverge.

It doesn't say that there is or isn't life or that we have to spend a ton of money looking for ETs. It's just a useful model - nothing more or less.

Posted by: Mætenloch at April 05, 2013 02:41 PM (pAlYe)

294 We've all seen pictures of James Carville and we're wondering whether aliens are real?

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 05, 2013 02:41 PM (VlXYw)

295 Albuterol 11:16 for God did not place man or animal upon any other world and lest ye not believe that this verse was spaketh by the government to conceal the truth, for that is totally untrue.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 05, 2013 02:41 PM (+lsX1)

296 Here's what I thought: That idea is like a woman who's having problems with her boyfriend and figures a pregancy will bring them closer. What I figured is that this would be Bad For the Dog. -- It would be if you worked long hours away from home or traveled a lot or hated dogs or just saw it as an accessory (to pick up babes). Otherwise, I think you should consider it. Don't rush into, but maybe you could test-run a dog by either dog-sitting a friend's pooch or maybe even being a foster 'parent' for a dog from a local rescue group or shelter.

Posted by: Y-not at April 05, 2013 02:42 PM (5H6zj)

297 Ace of spades: giving tact to Hit whoring

Posted by: Alexioso at April 05, 2013 02:42 PM (aPAIU)

298 eh, some. Irreligious Maniacs. Well, Hitchens, for one.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 02:42 PM (MMC8r)

299
>>>no not entirely. it's perfectly possible God created life elsewhere -- and it's just not mentioned in the Bible, as the Bible's about OUR world.

---

Hebrews 12:1 : Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses....


Posted by: Craig Poe at April 05, 2013 02:42 PM (BVkEs)

300 "What is the meaning of it, Watson? ... It must tend to some end, or else our universe is ruled by chance, which is unthinkable." -- Sherlock Holmes The Adventure of the Cardboard Box

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 05, 2013 02:43 PM (vzLhi)

301 DO NOT get a dog unless you have a large fenced yard. I hate few things less than people who own dogs without a place for them to run, especially people with large active dogs in fucking apartments. I don't care if you take them for a walk twice a day. That's just cruel.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:43 PM (HDgX3)

302 I don't get why people are so down on Drake's Equation. It's just an attempt to quantify how much potential detectible intelligent alien life there is in the universe. Crichton's point is that Drake's Equation is precisely not that at all. To quote: Nor can there be “informed guesses.” If you need to state how many planets with life choose to communicate, there is simply no way to make an informed guess. It’s simply prejudice. As a result, the Drake equation can have any value from “billions and billions” to zero. An expression that can mean anything means nothing.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 02:43 PM (j3uk1)

303 I am not for banning smoking in most matters, but i do believe smoking lacks the tact necessary for this smart military blog.

Posted by: Alexioso at April 05, 2013 02:44 PM (aPAIU)

304 >>>It's just a useful model - nothing more or less.

It's an estimate that brackets it's results over several orders of magnitude. Of limited use for anything.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 02:44 PM (0q2P7)

305 I'd avoid that Sensa stuff. He might need more protein if he's not feeling full....up the meat.

Posted by: Tami at April 05, 2013 06:41 PM (X6akg



Trust me, he's a carnivore.  I think know he's eating too much.  He could have consumed the entire Easter leg of lamb by himself and totally skipped the sides. 



It would also help if he'd hit the fitness center (me too).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 05, 2013 02:44 PM (lVPtV)

306 307 DO NOT get a dog unless you have a large fenced yard. I hate few things less than people who own dogs without a place for them to run, especially people with large active dogs in fucking apartments. I don't care if you take them for a walk twice a day. That's just cruel. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 06:43 PM (HDgX3) Then I am glad I live on a third acre then

Posted by: Alexioso at April 05, 2013 02:44 PM (aPAIU)

307 My husband cannot stop with a healthy serving. And I have no idea what crap he eats for lunch, although his office manager swears he "eats like a bird" when he's in the office. Anyone? --- Start every meal with soup. Give him a bowl, then the rest of the meal 20-30 minutes later. It really helps suppress the appetite. And pack him a lunch if he'll let you. My husband was skipping lunches, which just screwed up his metabolism. Started packing lunches with lots of crunchy things that he can graze on during the day. Helped a lot.

Posted by: Y-not at April 05, 2013 02:44 PM (5H6zj)

308 What I figured is that this would be Bad For the Dog. ace, as an Internetish pseudo-friend, let me offer some advice: Stop being so selfless. A dog would be perfectly happy in your hovel. You could pick fleas out of each others' fur.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 02:44 PM (T0NGe)

309

Have a great weekend morans.

 

Btw, WHERE IN THE FUCK ARE THE T-SHIRTS???

 

 

Enough with the books Julian!! 

 

Those in the know, know.

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 05, 2013 02:45 PM (tVTLU)

310

If Ace is tired and depressed, I think he needs more positive affirmation from this here Horde of Morons.

 

Yay Ace!  You are doing a FABULOUS job with this blog.  It is my go - to source for conservative thinking, and the commenters are GREAT. Some of you blog posts are so much better than anything that I read anywhere else.

 

Keep up the good work, and I'm going to hit the Tip Jar.

 

(and don't say God Bless because the guy's an atheist and it would probably be a bit of an insult)

So that's how it's done.  Get on it.  A group of you should write stuff like this everyday.  I mean, Ace is giving, and giving and giving some more, and puts out all these posts, and it's wrecking his health and he probably doesn't have that much longer to live, so how much could it hurt to compliment him and make his last years kinda happy?  I mean, serious you guys,  buck him up some.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense.... at April 05, 2013 02:45 PM (RFeQD)

311 304 Dawkins .

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 02:45 PM (9XBK2)

312 Irreligious Maniacs write a lot about the god they don't believe in because people are naturally reductivist and seek to explain all things by as few ideas as is possible, preferably One. You see this all the time, everywhere. it's a type of conspiracy thinking which itself is a type of primitivism (Primitive Man seeks to explain all weather effects and animal attacks by one simple explanation: Sorcery and/or Gods. Okay, two. They strongly prefer All-Explaining Explanations, simple explanations with no actual predictive scientific usefulness but which are reassuring in explaining the world in easy terms). Anyway, the Evangelical Atheists have explained the whole of history in three words, Religion Iz Bad, and they're not going to give up that Woobie, because Woobies are warm and fuzzy. People like this are dumb and annoy the shit out of me. Particularly when they're making great puffed-up claims about being enlightened.

Posted by: ace at April 05, 2013 02:45 PM (LCRYB)

313 DO NOT get a dog unless you have a large fenced yard. I'm shuddering picturing Ace with a frou-frou neurotic carry-chihuahua.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 02:45 PM (MMC8r)

314 Of course it will get good ratings. It's not ratings, it's revenue. Twice the ratings. Four times the revenue. You do the math.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 02:46 PM (T0NGe)

315 The godless spend time talking about people who believe in god, not god himself

Posted by: Alexx at April 05, 2013 02:46 PM (aPAIU)

316 DO NOT get a dog unless you have a large fenced yard. I hate few things less than people who own dogs without a place for them to run, especially people with large active dogs in fucking apartments. I don't care if you take them for a walk twice a day. That's just cruel. ----- You're full of shit. Some dogs need a big fenced yard to run around in. Many dogs do not and are quite happy with walks and visits to dog parks. And a walk with the human is always superior to leaving the dog out to its own devices in a big fenced yeard.

Posted by: Y-not at April 05, 2013 02:46 PM (5H6zj)

317 A few years ago, kept an innocent guy locked in jail for about six months on the word of his alleged victim, his ex-wife. She contended that he had raped her at gunpoint. He was no angel, in fact, he was exactly the kind of guy who would do something like that. I had no trouble believing her. She testified at preliminary hearing. Then the DNA came back proving that he had not had sex with her. We confronted her. She admitted to lying because they had a custody hearing within the next few days and she thought ti would be better if he were in jail instead of in court. She was charged with perjury for lying at the PH but that was not my case. I told the prosecuting DA that she should be locked up at least as long as he was but she got essentially nothing, ten days or so as I recall. And the punchline is that the DNA that proved that she was lying also proved that she had been doing the nasty with her sister's fiance. **** Huh? What case are you talking about. Brian Banks was a 17 year old high school junior attending advanced placement courses in college, a rising footballs star, who served 5 years in prison for a rape he didn't commit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 02:46 PM (piMMO)

318 >>>Hebrews 12:1 : Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses

What is earth like galactic reality TV?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 02:46 PM (0q2P7)

319 Smiting is just being voted off?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 02:46 PM (0q2P7)

320 The MSM is all butthurt over TFG commenting on CA AG Kamala Harris as "best looking AG" (Pam Bondi actually is)

It's a marvel to see what the MSM gets upset over. I've said that I can tell a person's employment and financial status by what they get upset over

As anyone ever seen a homeless guy with a sign that says "Legalize Same Sex Marriage NOW" ?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2013 02:46 PM (mCvL4)

321 (Primitive Man seeks to explain all weather effects and animal attacks by one simple explanation: Sorcery and/or Gods. Okay, two. They strongly prefer All-Explaining Explanations, simple explanations with no actual predictive scientific usefulness but which are reassuring in explaining the world in easy terms). So we're back to Climate Science, are we?

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 02:47 PM (T0NGe)

322 309. Really? *****lights another Marlboro light*****

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 02:47 PM (dYf+Z)

323 Cool. I'm doing that as well. Not 100% but essentially no bread, no pasta, no rice, no potatoes. Then you run the danger of eliminating essential nutrients. I was on crutches last summer because of a potassium deficiency. Knee would lock up, then spasm and drag my sorry ass directly to the ground with zero ability to walk. Needed potatoes (P) oranges (O) tomato (T) apricot (A) strawberries (S) iceberg lettuce (I) ... you get the acronym by now. 'Fad' diets are bad, mkay class, now pass the marra j wanna cigarette to the front, class?

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at April 05, 2013 02:47 PM (feFL6)

324 319 DO NOT get a dog unless you have a large fenced yard.

I'm shuddering picturing Ace with a frou-frou neurotic carry-chihuahua.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 06:45 PM (MMC8r)


_________


Chihuahua? I thought we were talking about dogs, not rats.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:47 PM (HDgX3)

325 Bullshit. A dog would rather be stuck in an apartment and loved than euthanized. Sure, she'd prefer a large yard. But she'd also prefer to live in a pack and have puppies and regular hunt and kill birds and all sorts of crap the average suburban dog never gets to do. Don't feel bad about having an apartment dog. Only a heartless bastard would tell you otherwise.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 05, 2013 02:47 PM (ZPrif)

326 I'm shuddering picturing Ace with a frou-frou neurotic carry-chihuahua.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 06:45 PM (MMC8r




Carried in a manpurse (manbag?  murse?).  {{{{shudder}}}}

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 05, 2013 02:47 PM (lVPtV)

327 WHERE IN THE FUCK ARE THE T-SHIRTS??? --- If ace knows what's good for him, the ones for the moronettes will be deep V-necks in white.

Posted by: Y-not at April 05, 2013 02:48 PM (5H6zj)

328 the Evangelical Atheists Their potlucks suck.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 02:48 PM (j3uk1)

329 How could one say that religion is bad or good when looking objectively. It is simply a tool for social pressure of common mores, and thus has overall been a catalyst for calm throughout time

Posted by: Alexx at April 05, 2013 02:48 PM (aPAIU)

330 It was said that Madalyn Murray O'Hair didn't fail to believe in God, she just hated Him.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 02:49 PM (T0NGe)

331 331 Bullshit. A dog would rather be stuck in an apartment and loved than euthanized. Sure, she'd prefer a large yard. But she'd also prefer to live in a pack and have puppies and regular hunt and kill birds and all sorts of crap the average suburban dog never gets to do. Don't feel bad about having an apartment dog. Only a heartless bastard would tell you otherwise. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 05, 2013 06:47 PM (ZPrif) We also say abortion is good

Posted by: PETA, PP, NOW, ECT... at April 05, 2013 02:49 PM (aPAIU)

332 Hebrews 12:1 : Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses Seems to me today in America we are surrounded by a great cloud of witlessness.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 02:49 PM (j3uk1)

333 Can one not believe in God but believe he didn't actually create the Universe?

1.  Does the universe have a creator?
2.  Is the creator sentient?
3.  Does the creator know it created the universe?
4.  Does the creator know that humankind is within the whole of the creation?
5.  Is the creator able to influence events in the human sphere?
6.  Does the creator care to influence events in the human sphere?
7.  Does the creator act in the interests of humans?

You have to answer all of these questions with a "yes" before you even get to the concept of a God along Judeo-Christian (or islamic) lines.  Any "no" take you off the map into uncharted territory.  Then you're probably not talking about something that most would consider God.

Faith aside, it seems like any answer could easily be a no.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at April 05, 2013 02:50 PM (8ZskC)

334 329 Cool. I'm doing that as well. Not 100% but essentially no bread, no pasta, no rice, no potatoes.

Then you run the danger of eliminating essential nutrients. I was on crutches last summer because of a potassium deficiency. Knee would lock up, then spasm and drag my sorry ass directly to the ground with zero ability to walk. Needed potatoes (P) oranges (O) tomato (T) apricot (A) strawberries (S) iceberg lettuce (I) ... you get the acronym by now.

'Fad' diets are bad, mkay class, now pass the marra j wanna cigarette to the front, class?

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet at April 05, 2013 06:47 PM (feFL6)


______________

I eat a lot of fish which is high in potassium and bananas too. You don't need breads or processed garbage to get nutrients.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:50 PM (HDgX3)

335 in other media news, HBO has changed the name of  "Girls" to FGF


"Fat Girls F*cking"

Posted by: Rod from Rotterdam at April 05, 2013 02:50 PM (Dll6b)

336 It's a marvel to see what the MSM gets upset over. I've said that I can tell a person's employment and financial status by what they get upset over Well, they sure aren't upset by the workforce having shrunk to be as small as it was in 1979.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 02:51 PM (j3uk1)

337 The thing is,I don't really care what people believe or disbelieve,as long as they don't bother me with it.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 02:51 PM (9XBK2)

338 Yep, it's the logic that any life less full than some arbitrary line is not worth living. Add up all the hugs and kisses and love the dog gets and subtract the frustration of being cooped up in apartment most of the day -- the good stuff still makes that dog's life a hell of a lot better than being dead.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 05, 2013 02:52 PM (ZPrif)

339 Actually, Barry trying to sweet-talk wimmins is really, really creepy.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 02:53 PM (MMC8r)

340 Screw these wimpy ass diets All you need is the Chicago diet 1. Meat 2. Potatoes 3. Gravy That's all you need

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 02:53 PM (dYf+Z)

341 343 The thing is,I don't really care what people believe or disbelieve,as long as they don't bother me with it. ^This. That said, I did call out an old professor I worked with (when I was postdoc'ing) for his annual "God Doesn't Exist" lecture that he'd insert into a general undergraduate biology course. Basically just shamed him out of doing by pointing out that there was no big victory in him taking a captive audience of 19 year olds and "proving" God didn't exist.

Posted by: Y-not at April 05, 2013 02:54 PM (5H6zj)

342 Then you run the danger of eliminating essential nutrients.

What bullshit. Ace mentions he's tired and the predictable avalanche of broscience follows.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 05, 2013 02:54 PM (+lsX1)

343 1. Meat 2. Potatoes 3. Gravy You forgot beer.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 02:54 PM (j3uk1)

344 346 Even the potatoes are optional.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 02:54 PM (9XBK2)

345 Actually, Barry trying to sweet-talk wimmins is really, really creepy. *** And it's complete bullshit too!

Posted by: Pam Bondi, Florida's AG at April 05, 2013 02:55 PM (piMMO)

346 "Broscience" Urban dictionaried that one. That's awesome.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 02:55 PM (j3uk1)

347 339: lack of 7 is gnosticism

Posted by: PETA, PP, NOW, ECT... at April 05, 2013 02:55 PM (aPAIU)

348 345 Actually, Barry trying to sweet-talk wimmins is really, really creepy.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 06:53 PM (MMC8r)


---


It's being reported that Reggie Love has locked himself in the bathroom.

here and now

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 05, 2013 02:55 PM (BVkEs)

349
1. Does the universe have a creator?
Trick question, it wasn't created.  Its an illusion.
2. Is the creator sentient?
Being the creator of the illusion is you and me, yes.
3. Does the creator know it created the universe?
The creator thinks his dream is real. It is confused.
4. Does the creator know that humankind is within the whole of the creation?
???
5. Is the creator able to influence events in the human sphere?
God? No. Us? Sure.
6. Does the creator care to influence events in the human sphere?
God? No. Us? Yes.
7. Does the creator act in the interests of humans?
Yes?

You
have to answer all of these questions with a "yes" before you even get
to the concept of a God along Judeo-Christian (or islamic) lines. Any
"no" take you off the map into uncharted territory. Then you're
probably not talking about something that most would consider God.

Faith aside, it seems like any answer could easily be a no.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at April 05, 2013 06:50 PM (8ZskC)

I believe Jesus was unique in that he was 'awake' and could perform miracles and such because he knew the rules of the world were rules but not law.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 05, 2013 02:56 PM (UypUQ)

350 It's a televised blog. It's a vlog (a term that never really caught on). It's a tlog, I suppose.


-

Maybe it's a doglog?

Posted by: Name:* at April 05, 2013 02:56 PM (/5apW)

351 347 Well,he was bothering you with it.If he kept it to himself you wouldn't have needed to shame him.Many of them can't though,because it makes them feel superior.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 02:56 PM (9XBK2)

352 349. Oops, true that 350. True that too Needless to say my upcoming heart attack will be a doozy

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 02:56 PM (dYf+Z)

353 Actually, Barry trying to sweet-talk wimmins is really, really creepy. You know? What with Michelle saying she's a single mom and my observation that Barick never goes on vacation with the kids, I think that marriage isn't long for this world.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 02:56 PM (T0NGe)

354 Navycopjoe, That's awesome man! Great song too, no matter what Beavis and Butthead say.

Posted by: EC at April 05, 2013 02:56 PM (doBIb)

355 Well, they sure aren't upset by the workforce having shrunk to be as small as it was in 1979. Obama's going to bring back disco, I just know it.

Posted by: t-bird at April 05, 2013 02:57 PM (oJQ+J)

356 337 331 Bullshit.
A dog would rather be stuck in an apartment and loved than euthanized.
Sure, she'd prefer a large yard.
But she'd also prefer to live in a pack and have puppies and regular hunt and kill birds and all sorts of crap the average suburban dog never gets to do.

Don't feel bad about having an apartment dog. Only a heartless bastard would tell you otherwise.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 05, 2013 06:47 PM (ZPrif)

_______________

I've got two large dogs, both about 100 lbs. They sleep in our bedroom and that's about the only time they spend indoors. As soon as we're up, they're outside through the doggy door. And I see them throughout the day chasing each other and sometimes just running back and forth in the yard for the hell of it. Some days they don't come back in until dinner time.

The fenced portion of my property is about 200' by 175'. I can't imagine how miserable they'd be cooped up in an apartment all day.

When I got the first dog it was from a rescue group. They wouldn't let me have the dog until they did a home inspection. One of the criteria was a fenced yard. Guess they were heartless bastards too.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 02:57 PM (HDgX3)

357 I don't tell people what to eat,drink or not eat drink either.Again,don't bother me I wont bother you.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 02:57 PM (9XBK2)

358 357 347 Well,he was bothering you with it.If he kept it to himself you wouldn't have needed to shame him. --- Not strictly. I mean, my exposure to it was merely him chortling about how much he enjoyed giving that lecture. I just found it beyond obnoxious that he was wasting the kids' class time on a pointless exercise just to stroke his own ego.

Posted by: Y-not at April 05, 2013 02:58 PM (5H6zj)

359 355? How is the world an illusion?

Posted by: Alex at April 05, 2013 02:58 PM (aPAIU)

360 360. You may want to watch heaven sent by dokken

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 02:58 PM (dYf+Z)

361 >>>Faith aside, it seems like any answer could easily be a no.

It's also what I call specific biased. The same way one would conclude using the Drakes equation that intelligent life in any given star system is immensely improbable. Yet...here we are.

Shorter question list. Does morality exist in an absolute sense? Y/N
Well Y puts you into theological territory.

How about this? Given the infinite expanse of the multiverse (which includes who knows how many universe like structures.) what are the odds that a multidimensional sentience evolved? If such a being evolved would it be concerned with metaphysics? Or the development of sentient intelligent forms of life? Our own mucking around in both those categories might give you some useful insight.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 02:58 PM (0q2P7)

362 361 Well, they sure aren't upset by the workforce having shrunk to be as small as it was in 1979. Obama's going to bring back disco, I just know it. Posted by: t-bird at April 05, 2013 06:57 PM (oJQ+J) YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Posted by: LSD at April 05, 2013 02:58 PM (aPAIU)

363 I believe Jesus was unique in that he was 'awake' and could perform miracles and such because he knew the rules of the world were rules but not law.


I think I saw this in The Matrix.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at April 05, 2013 02:58 PM (8ZskC)

364 My physical therapist said today that Michelle Obama is one of the prettiest FL's ever. I gave her the "face".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 02:59 PM (piMMO)

365 361 I'd argue that the current popular music is worse than disco.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 02:59 PM (9XBK2)

366

 326 The MSM is all butthurt over TFG commenting on CA AG Kamala Harris as "best looking AG" (Pam Bondi actually is)

 

Maybe Barky made that remark because he got so much notice for being with his boyfriends last weekend.

 

So it was, you know...time to make a 'manly remark'.

 

And I agree, Pam Bondi is a lot better looking.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 05, 2013 02:59 PM (5kUwW)

367 367: God is above the multiverse

Posted by: Alex at April 05, 2013 03:00 PM (aPAIU)

368 his annual "God Doesn't Exist" lecture that he'd insert into a general undergraduate biology course Biologists are responsible for the extra stupidization of our society. "There's a biological explanation for morality." Yeah? Well listen up, chump, I choose to override my programming. But I guess when you can be a "scientist" and never have to touch math or logic, you tend to have a different thought process.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 03:00 PM (T0NGe)

369 You're a fucking asshole, Moo. Generalizing about the lifestyles of domestic dogs, which were developed by man for extremely diverse tasks and environments, is ignorant.

Posted by: Y-not at April 05, 2013 03:00 PM (5H6zj)

370 370 My physical therapist said today that Michelle Obama is one of the prettiest FL's ever.

I gave her the "face". Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 06:59 PM

You should have handed her your optometrist's business card

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2013 03:00 PM (mCvL4)

371 361. Oh hell no Disco is the main reason the 70s was a great mistake

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 03:00 PM (dYf+Z)

372 You may want to watch heaven sent by dokken No shit?!?! Really?

Posted by: EC at April 05, 2013 03:00 PM (doBIb)

373 370 My physical therapist said today that Michelle Obama is one of the prettiest FL's ever.

I gave her the "face".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 06:59 PM (piMMO




Oh good grief.  She's lucky the "face" was all she got from you.  Is the bitch blind?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 05, 2013 03:01 PM (lVPtV)

374 375: umm, just because he fucks assholes doesn't mean he is one. He is a human being just like the rest of us

Posted by: Alex at April 05, 2013 03:01 PM (aPAIU)

375 308 I don't get why people are so down on Drake's Equation. It's just an attempt to quantify how much potential detectible intelligent alien life there is in the universe.

Crichton's point is that Drake's Equation is precisely not that at all. To quote:

Nor can there be “informed guesses.” If you need to state how many planets with life choose to communicate, there is simply no way to make an informed guess. It’s simply prejudice.

As a result, the Drake equation can have any value from “billions and billions” to zero. An expression that can mean anything means nothing.
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 06:43 PM (j3uk1)

Well here I think Crichton was just wrong or was referring to ways that people have abused Drake's Equation. Does anyone here actually disagree that it would be an roughly accurate model if we could know the individual factors?

If you accept that it is, then you can start playing with different estimates to see what effect they have - even if we never will know their true values.

I can think of several models that are theoretical in sense that we'll likely never precisely know certain parameters but are still useful in understanding the system and its possible behavior.




Posted by: Mætenloch at April 05, 2013 03:01 PM (pAlYe)

376 Maybe Barky made that remark because he got so much notice for being with his boyfriends last weekend. So it was, you know...time to make a 'manly remark'. He does a lot of overcompensation.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 03:01 PM (T0NGe)

377 370 Well,she's on the cover of Vogue currently.the tagline is "How the President and First lady are improving our lives"

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 03:01 PM (9XBK2)

378 Maybe, Ace is pregnant. Anything is possible in Obama's America. And I'm always reading stories about guys getting knocked up in the Daily Mail.

Posted by: Waldo at April 05, 2013 03:02 PM (xY6Ip)

379 A dog would rather be stuck in an apartment and loved than euthanized. Sure, she'd prefer a large yard... Saw the happiest dog in the world the other day, just walkin' along the road with his Parkinson's-affected owner. Nothing mattered to him, 'cuz he was out with his master.

Posted by: t-bird at April 05, 2013 03:02 PM (oJQ+J)

380 Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at April 05, 2013 06:50 PM (8ZskC) I dunno. The bacteria in the petri dish might say the same thing.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 03:02 PM (T0NGe)

381 377 361. Oh hell no Disco is the main reason the 70s was a great mistake Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 07:00 PM (dYf+Z) It wasn't crap, shit, and carter?

Posted by: Alex at April 05, 2013 03:02 PM (aPAIU)

382
>>>When I got the first dog it was from a rescue group. They wouldn't let me have the dog until they did a home inspection. One of the criteria was a fenced yard. Guess they were heartless bastards too.

And if you would have gotten say a 150lb great dane they would warn you about over exercising. It depends on the dog.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 03:02 PM (0q2P7)

383 No, it was Sd-6, pretending to be the CIA, who killed him.

Posted by: luigi vercotti at April 05, 2013 03:02 PM (Jsiw/)

384 378. Yep Really

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 05, 2013 03:02 PM (dYf+Z)

385

Religion can be good or bad. It is a social invention by people to get them together to do stuff, and make them feel connected.

 

Faith is the inner belief in a Supreme Being, a benevolent Creator that loves you and cares about your life.  My faith is in this Supreme Being that sent his begotten Son to live among men, and teach and preach love and brotherhood, and try to inspire us all to be better men.  Like spreading seed, some places it takes root, other places the seed is on barren ground. Many places the seed appears to grow, but the roots are shallow, and a strong wind will blow it away.  Faith sometimes means feeling very close to God, even when you are alone.  There are times when I have been alone in contemplation and felt the very nearness of Him.  You don't need a bunch of hairy backslappers to validate your Faith.

 

No one can make you believe, or find Faith in your heart.  It is a grace and gift that takes some looking for, and inner struggle, and just because you were raised in a Christian church of some kind (or Jewish, or whatever your birth religion might have been), doesn't mark you as a "believer".  You have to choose, to live your life.  Not to choose is still a choice.

 

We all struggle with the World, the Flesh and the Devil, even if we don't believe in God.  Some people get lost in the Flesh, or the World.  We all fall very short, and all our souls are pretty black.  It's easy to judge others who apparently fall short, but the believer and person of Faith has to look within.  That's where your biggest struggles are.

 

I am still not the man I should be, and still not the man I want to be, but thank God I am not the man I used to be.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense.... at April 05, 2013 03:03 PM (RFeQD)

386 I'm still hung up on this diversity nonsense. Why does the Left think they invented it and own it? Peoples have been intermingling and co-existing (for the most part) since the beginning of time. People never had a problem with diversity. Explorers explored and people traveled to seek out Other and Strange long before these campus cranks told us we need to 'embrace diversity.'

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 05, 2013 03:03 PM (uff2W)

387 I stopped going to movies because i didn't want to pay all that money for a ticket and parking to see mostly mediocre films. Nor did I want to deal with gangbangers or teenagers who can't stfu.

Posted by: Waldo at April 05, 2013 03:03 PM (xY6Ip)

388 Ace forgot to include the word White in the title

Posted by: Alex at April 05, 2013 03:04 PM (aPAIU)

389

Y-not - GREAT POINT.

 

Look tonight's my night to get drunk.  Lucy got drunk last night, so tonight's my night.  And if Lucy and I are both drunk, my dad will take Trinity.

 

I live in my car.  I'm sure you people have tons of liquor in your houses.  My car is my house.  How is that open liquor?

 

I think we're done here.

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 05, 2013 03:04 PM (tVTLU)

390 How is the world an illusion?

Posted by: Alex at April 05, 2013 06:58 PM (aPAIU)


From the perspective of God and heaven, the physical world does not exits.  Do people think God is made of atoms?  Closest analogy I can think of is dream state.  Only in reverse.


My believes are a mash-up of the teaching of Christ and the worldview of Hinduism.  But I consider myself Catholic.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 05, 2013 03:04 PM (UypUQ)

391 I eat a lot of fish which is high in potassium and bananas too. You don't need breads or processed garbage to get nutrients. I don't eat processed foods. None. I prefer to make my own bread. I also prefer to burn off 4k calories per day so it doesn't matter what I eat. Calorie-wise. But sometimes I don't eat enough of the right stuff and I leave out nutrients I should have. Nutrition is more of a science then it gets credit for. But it's not something low information people (not you) are ever going to understand.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at April 05, 2013 03:04 PM (feFL6)

392 Well,she's on the cover of Vogue currently.the tagline is "How the President and First lady are improving our lives" **** "Inspiring" us.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 03:04 PM (piMMO)

393 392: They invented self hating diversity, where one thinks everyone else is better than the self

Posted by: Alex at April 05, 2013 03:04 PM (aPAIU)

394 Bananas are a good unit to use in measuring radiation

Posted by: Alex at April 05, 2013 03:05 PM (aPAIU)

395 No one watches MSNBC...you guys waste a lot of time bitching about it for some reason though. I'm a liberal and hate that channel. Most liberals despise cable news, while conservatives feed from the foxnews trough like starving swine.

Posted by: Tugjobs4all at April 05, 2013 03:05 PM (5zghW)

396 My physical therapist said today that Michelle Obama is one of the prettiest FL's ever. I gave her the "face". That's an incredible level of delusion. We don't have to talk about Dolly Madison, etc. Doesn't she even think of the fabulous Jackie Kennedy?

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 03:05 PM (T0NGe)

397 Does anyone here actually disagree that it would be an roughly accurate model if we could know the individual factors? Yes. The definition of the terms are not even definable. No one can clearly define "planets capable of supporting life" without prior agreement on what qualifies as life and what "capable of supporting life" really means. Most of the other terms are equally nebulous.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 03:06 PM (j3uk1)

398

382...He does a lot of overcompensation.

 

Heh. Like trying to make a hoop shot? ...Over and over again?

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 05, 2013 03:06 PM (5kUwW)

399 I stopped going to movies because i didn't want to pay all that money for a ticket and parking to see mostly mediocre films. Nor did I want to deal with gangbangers or teenagers who can't stfu *** You can get first-run movies with On Demand now. Why go to the theater?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 03:06 PM (piMMO)

400 Posted by: Tugjobs4all at April 05, 2013 07:05 PM (5zghW) You watch Stewart, don't you?

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 03:06 PM (T0NGe)

401 That's an incredible level of delusion. We don't have to talk about Dolly Madison, etc. Doesn't she even think of the fabulous Jackie Kennedy? *** Sh's a girl in her twenties. I'm sure she has no idea WTH Jackie Kennedy is.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 03:07 PM (piMMO)

402 398 Right,I was going from memory,saw it as I was waiting to pay for my groceries and it made me curse rather loudly.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2013 03:07 PM (9XBK2)

403 396: I always thought he was above time and space, so of course he isn't made of atoms. As a protestant, I believe that Freedom is an important theological factor in the existence of this world. God gives us the freedom to fail him

Posted by: Alex at April 05, 2013 03:07 PM (aPAIU)

404 You're a fucking asshole, Moo. Generalizing about the lifestyles of domestic dogs, which were developed by man for extremely diverse tasks and environments, is ignorant. Brevity.

Posted by: zsasz at April 05, 2013 03:07 PM (MMC8r)

405 Dogs do just fine in apts. You take them on walks. They also have dog parks where they can run off the leash and smell butts.

Posted by: Waldo at April 05, 2013 03:07 PM (xY6Ip)

406 Bananas are a good unit to use in measuring radiation Sometimes a roentgen is just a roentgen.

Posted by: Sigmund Freud at April 05, 2013 03:07 PM (j3uk1)

407 401 No one watches MSNBC...you guys waste a lot of time bitching about it for some reason though. I'm a liberal and hate that channel. Most liberals despise cable news, while conservatives feed from the foxnews trough like starving swine. Posted by: Tugjobs4all at April 05, 2013 07:05 PM (5zghW) I don't watch fox, please explain how I eat from the trough. also I like pigs

Posted by: Alex, Pig lover at April 05, 2013 03:08 PM (aPAIU)

408 Bananas are a good unit to use in measuring radiation My banana would like to give you three rads. If you're of the female persuasion. Otherwise, nevermind.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at April 05, 2013 03:08 PM (feFL6)

409 Did someone say pig?

Posted by: Kim Jong Un at April 05, 2013 03:10 PM (jucos)

410 Sh's a girl in her twenties. I'm sure she has no idea WTH Jackie Kennedy is. Hell, I'm 40 and I shouldn't know who she is either. But little miss physical therapy sure is opinionated.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 05, 2013 03:10 PM (T0NGe)

411 >>>My physical therapist said today that Michelle Obama is one of the prettiest FL's ever.

I gave her the "face".

>>>That's an incredible level of delusion. We don't have to talk about Dolly Madison, etc. Doesn't she even think of the fabulous Jackie Kennedy?

Yeah. To be fair the quote was "one of the prettiest" not "the prettiest"
In all fairness, most of MOs competition is not that great in the looks department. I would also say, that MO has the LEAST polite comportment, either by the lady's standard or the gentleman's take your pick, or any first lady on record other than maybe Mary Lincoln.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 05, 2013 03:10 PM (0q2P7)

412 One of the criteria was a fenced yard. Guess they were heartless bastards too. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2013 06:57 PM (HDgX3) That's probably so they don't run away and/or get hit by a car. I needed to go through the same checklist to get my bully-dog, even though she can easily jump over the fence. I think she forgot she can do that, however. Dogs are lazy. They like being indoors, sleeping on the couch. Rather, they're easy to please and are happy wherever they are loved and given attention.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 03:11 PM (7xPCu)

413 while conservatives feed from the foxnews trough like starving swine. Faux news! Faux news!

Posted by: The Mating Call of the Liberal at April 05, 2013 03:11 PM (MMC8r)

414 Most liberals despise cable news, while conservatives feed from the foxnews trough like starving swine.

Posted by: Tugjobs4all at April 05, 2013 07:05 PM (5zghW



You new here?  And it's "Faux" news, according to you libs.  Try to keep up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 05, 2013 03:11 PM (lVPtV)

415 My physical therapist said today that Michelle Obama is one of the prettiest FL's ever. FL? Forest Lemur?

Posted by: Sigmund Freud at April 05, 2013 03:12 PM (j3uk1)

416 Don't insult forest lemurs.  (Are they a type of weasel?)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 05, 2013 03:13 PM (lVPtV)

417 421 My physical therapist said today that Michelle Obama is one of the prettiest FL's ever. FL? Forest Lemur? Posted by: Sigmund Freud at April 05, 2013 07:12 PM (j3uk1) Fuck-faced Lowlife.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 05, 2013 03:13 PM (7xPCu)

418 My physical therapist said today that Michelle Obama is one of the prettiest FL's ever. The 'r' is silent.

Posted by: t-bird at April 05, 2013 03:13 PM (oJQ+J)

419 The 'r' is silent. *golf clap*

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 03:15 PM (j3uk1)

420 424-LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSoke at April 05, 2013 03:15 PM (bddKN)

421 403 Does anyone here actually disagree that it would be an roughly accurate model if we could know the individual factors?
Yes. The definition of the terms are not even definable. No one can clearly define "planets capable of supporting life" without prior agreement on what qualifies as life and what "capable of supporting life" really means. Most of the other terms are equally nebulous.
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 07:06 PM (j3uk1)

What if we were to stipulate that it had to be capable of supporting known Earth life? Would that be definable for you?

Because if not, then we simply cannot discuss any model dealing with life at all since it's not definable.

Posted by: Mætenloch at April 05, 2013 03:16 PM (pAlYe)

422 It's just easier to watch people talking rather to read people writing. Pictures are fun and words are work. Actually, I seldom watch videos online if they are more than a few minutes long. I'd rather read an article.

Posted by: rickl at April 05, 2013 03:16 PM (sdi6R)

423 The group was doing shoulder presses and the PT teased one of the gals that if she kept up her exercise, she'd have "Michelle Obama arms". I'll admit it. She does have nice arms.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 03:18 PM (piMMO)

424 new post up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 03:19 PM (piMMO)

425 He does a lot of overcompensation.

And really, really badly.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 03:20 PM (6TB1Z)

426 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2013 06:46 PM (piMMO) --- It was just a defendant around here, nobody famous. He was a middle to late thirties red neck with a lengthy history of getting drunk and assaulting people including his lying ex-wife. P.S. I use "red neck" as a descriptor, not as a perjoritive.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 05, 2013 03:20 PM (VlXYw)

427 What if we were to stipulate that it had to be capable of supporting known Earth life? Would that be definable for you? Let's narrow it down further; a planet approximately the size of earth being 93 units of distance from its star, having a moon approximately one quarter the size of the planet, with a molten core to provide magnetic protection from solar radiation, infested with liberals.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at April 05, 2013 03:21 PM (feFL6)

428 My dog only hunts bees. Could not care less about going out except to socialize. Hates running. More like a lazy kid than a dog really. I think the Drake Equation is an interesting stab at something we barely are beginning to understand. If there are alien worlds nobody tell John McCain.

Posted by: Beagle at April 05, 2013 03:21 PM (sOtz/)

429 Because if not, then we simply cannot discuss any model dealing with life at all since it's not definable. That is part of the problem. To return to Crichton, in the novel "Andromeda Strain" there is an interesting section where a panel of scientists tries to come up with a good definition of life and it isn't so easy. I believe astronauts recovered parts from Surveyor on the moon that still harbored viable bacteria, so one could almost say the Moon can support Earth life. Thus it becomes a silly discussion. At any rate when the terms and quantities of this equation are unverifiable and not even subject to estimate, it is rather meaningless to speak of it as a model useful for anything.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 03:23 PM (j3uk1)

430 a planet approximately the size of earth being 93 units of distance from its star, having a moon approximately one quarter the size of the planet, with a molten core to provide magnetic protection from solar radiation, infested with liberals. We have one too many of those already.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 05, 2013 03:24 PM (j3uk1)

431 Good grief.There were any number of first ladies prettier than Michelle. Even in some of the old portaits. Photographs from the mid to late 1800's never really make people look good because they had to hold poses for so long: http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/photogallery/portraits-us-first-ladies

Posted by: FenelonSoke at April 05, 2013 03:24 PM (bddKN)

432 I had to quit pullulating when my eyesight started to go.

Posted by: West at April 05, 2013 03:27 PM (f9hrr)

433 Boy, my doggehs are in for a treat come June. They're coming accross country from FL to WA, leaving their limited play space for the unfettered space of this ranch in rural as hell Washington. I can't wait to see their mugs when they get a load of this place. Of course, 3000 miles with 4 huskies is gonna be a treat for their humans, too.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at April 05, 2013 03:27 PM (Uamfo)

434 Good grief.There were any number of first ladies prettier than Michelle.

Rachel Jackson was especially fine, as was Laura Bush.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2013 03:30 PM (6TB1Z)

435

Now I know why Morons skip the content. >sigh< Always at the bottom.

 

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at April 05, 2013 03:30 PM (Uamfo)

436

and yes, you are a mofo.

 

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at April 05, 2013 03:32 PM (Uamfo)

437 Has ace considered getting a kitteh?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2013 03:32 PM (mCvL4)

438 I believe astronauts recovered parts from Surveyor on the moon that still harbored viable bacteria, so one could almost say the Moon can support Earth life. I believe the premise was that a NASA employee sneezed on the part, and after a constant bombardment of radiation and minus 200 degree temps for a couple decades on the moon, it reinvigorated in a petri dish on Earth after being subjected to earthly conditions. It wasn't doing anything on the moon, it required earthly conditions to 'return to life'. Which isn't to say that I don't believe that life can't *exist* on other planets or moons, just that they can't 'flourish' as they do here.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at April 05, 2013 03:33 PM (feFL6)

439 For one thing, weren't a number of first ladies older than Michelle is? Heck, I think Martha Jefferson ( Anyway, wasn't she dead for a long time when Jefferson became president?) Dolly Madison, (It's not the best portrait), Rachel Jackson. Angelica Van Buren, Ellen Arthur, Lucy Hayes and Jackie Kennedy were ALL more atrractive than Michelle. Heck, Lou Hoover doesnt look bad and she looks much NICER than Michelle.

Posted by: FenelonSoke at April 05, 2013 03:40 PM (bddKN)

440 You can actually get a lot of exercise with a kitten. My son chases the kitten-about six months old all over the house and vice-versa for hours at a time.

Posted by: FenelonSoke at April 05, 2013 03:42 PM (bddKN)

441 Let me take you to the beach Lalala lalala lalala

Posted by: Freak Out! at April 05, 2013 03:47 PM (jmVS/)

442 I think

Posted by: Rebecca the Raccoon at April 05, 2013 03:49 PM (UOjzE)

443 Heck, even I was better looking than Michelle.

Posted by: Rebecca the Raccoon at April 05, 2013 03:52 PM (UOjzE)

444 I don't like the term "vlog" either.

Video blog.  Nonsense.

I call it a "Film Blog".  AKA..."flog."

So let's start flogging.

Posted by: Taco Stand at April 05, 2013 05:26 PM (C+qQ0)

445 Okay, it's a long shot. But if anyone out there gets tired easily, short of breath AND has parrots or pigeons, look into bird fancier's lung. It's a type of pneumonia caused by an allergy to the dust from their wings. Third week of steroids for me and we're still trying to figure out where to move the birds so they don't affect me.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 05, 2013 05:59 PM (5HBd1)

446 MessNBC is ThinkProgress, MediaMatters, TPM and DailyKos all wrapped in one.

Posted by: Cognito at April 05, 2013 08:59 PM (EbMxL)

447 Putting the fun back into funemployment, Nancy must be happy.

Posted by: moom at April 06, 2013 04:29 AM (XV9ZM)

448 I had jury duty this week, and the worst part of it was putting up with five hours of MSNBC on the TVs in the waiting room!  I had to listen to one of their buffoonish talking heads describing Texas Gov. Rick Perry as "an April Fool, and a May fool, a June fool, a fool for all seasons," because he didn't want to upgrade Texas' Medicaid program to get more federal funds.  Their panel couldn't understand why he was turning down "free money"!  They had Democrat politicians and operatives on, no Republicans or conservatives of any kind.  Afterwards, I felt like I needed a shower.

Posted by: Clyde at April 06, 2013 04:39 AM (8xaxZ)

449 Aliens landed on Earth looking for intelligent life. Saw MSNBC and left. Still looking.

Posted by: PTL at April 06, 2013 05:24 AM (lB7NI)

450

As your driveby European anarchist, (hi y`all) I would posit that Bjørn Stærk runs a pretty good centrist blog. And that republicans could benefit from engaging in factual discussions with honest people of serious but differing political views. All this Ann Coulter-like screeching about how evil liberalism is is wearing kind of thin. Hate is obviously not selling well. You need to engage on the battlefield of ideas.

Stating that your opponent is a evil communist who wants to make your children gay is not an argument. /sarc off.

Posted by: Fnord at April 06, 2013 05:28 AM (xc6He)

451

P.S. Being centric doesnt mean never taking a stand, it means you evaluate all arguments rationaly.

 

Posted by: Fnord at April 06, 2013 05:32 AM (xc6He)

452 On the Fermi Paradox: More advanced civilizations, long ago learned to put a shield around up and coming star systems, to keep the STUPID from spilling out into the universe. To overcome the shield we must: (1) develop interstellar travel and (2) not blow ourselves out of existence.

Posted by: Mike Giles at April 06, 2013 07:18 AM (cmE/b)

453 Concerned centrist is concerned.

Posted by: Fnord Fnairlane at April 06, 2013 07:25 AM (Oep/X)

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