December 26, 2013

MSNBC's 2013 Highlights
— Open Blogger

The folks over at the Free Beacon were kind enough to put together a short clip of MSNBC's greatest hits of 2013.

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1 Every time I watch an MSLSD clip, I can feel brain cells dieing in my head. Therefore, I refuse to watch this consolidation of collected insanity out of self-preservation (and the fact that I want to keep my breakfast down).

Posted by: RoadRunner at December 26, 2013 05:53 AM (kw1xk)

2 Whoa

Posted by: Tommy Dorsey at December 26, 2013 05:53 AM (0Ltoz)

3 I think the last time I watched that channel was the Scott Walker recall. It was fantastic. As 404care continues down its path, I may be returning from time to time.

Posted by: AMDG at December 26, 2013 05:56 AM (t7OO0)

4 Honestly, MSNBC gets more viewership on internet posts like this than they do directly on TV. Paddy Chayefsky was right. But he grossly underestimated what depths of degeneracy TV would sink to.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 26, 2013 05:57 AM (olDqf)

5 What a collection of dim wits.

Posted by: seems legit at December 26, 2013 05:59 AM (A98Xu)

6 I'm sure the addition of Vladimir Pozner to the lineup will elevate the network. Or is he going to CNN?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 26, 2013 05:59 AM (olDqf)

7 No dump?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 26, 2013 05:59 AM (T2V/1)

8 Meh

Posted by: eman at December 26, 2013 06:00 AM (EWsrI)

9 Does Al Sharpton have AIDS or what? That fuck looks like a black skeletor.

Posted by: Killerdog at December 26, 2013 06:00 AM (cVajf)

10 I categorically refuse to take that refuse into consideration.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 26, 2013 06:00 AM (T0vPW)

11 Seeing MSNBC reminds me. It's time to jump into the showerÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 26, 2013 06:00 AM (olDqf)

12 *crickets*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 26, 2013 06:02 AM (GjPnA)

13 Christmas is cancelled! not really, but we're in Janesville wi and supposed to go to lake geneva to visit aunties with baby bigby and open gifts there. she got sick and that's that, i guess.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 26, 2013 06:02 AM (F+xWX)

14 9 Does Al Sharpton have AIDS or what? That fuck looks like a black skeletor. --- Good question. Al used to be such a fat fucker in his heyday that I seriously doubt his new appearance is due to a gastric bypass or increased activity.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 26, 2013 06:02 AM (/Crba)

15 and we are the uncivilized h8ers?.. uh... yeah.

Posted by: sweet...ish at December 26, 2013 06:02 AM (bj+Nc)

16 Don't have flash player on the ipad. I can continue not watching msnbc until I get home, where it's not on my cable either.

Posted by: ALH at December 26, 2013 06:02 AM (JXhDv)

17 It's well past 8:34, and no - nobody knows where your 834 transaction went.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 06:03 AM (R5qgD)

18 7 No dump?

splendid dump this am, thanks for asking.

Posted by: some bitch at December 26, 2013 06:03 AM (ibV9P)

19 "Honestly, MSNBC gets more viewership on internet posts like this than they do directly on TV." Certainly so from my views! I only know of most of these celebrity propagandists via mockery of them. Glad someone put this together, but, seems a little mild. Needs more Bashir and Ed Schultz (that's his name, yes?)

Posted by: mindful webworker - the afterglow at December 26, 2013 06:04 AM (zdOaO)

20 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 06:04 AM (PYAXX)

21 Posted by: akula51 at December 26, 2013 10:03 AM (R5qgD) I've worked with 834s. Heck, I've written implementation documentation for them. They're not *that* hard. How screwed up is this POS?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 06:05 AM (PYAXX)

22 buncha clowns..

It would be funny if this wasn't the sole source of news of millions of people!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 06:05 AM (f9c2L)

23

IT'S A TRAP!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 26, 2013 06:06 AM (zF6Iw)

24 It would be funny if this wasn't the sole source of news of millions of people! Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 10:05 AM (f9c2L) Oh don't worry. I'm sure every one of their viewers will proudly tell you they religiously listen to NPR and visit the "correct" websites.

Posted by: AMDG at December 26, 2013 06:07 AM (t7OO0)

25 My stomach is uneasy already so I decline to watch that load of crap!

Posted by: Old Dog at December 26, 2013 06:07 AM (tQYJH)

26 How screwed up is this POS? --- If a tree fell in the woods and hit the ObamaCare server, destroying it, could anybody tell the difference?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 26, 2013 06:07 AM (/Crba)

27 So... is the whole clip just "derp, derp, derp?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 06:07 AM (PYAXX)

28 Does Al Sharpton have AIDS or what? That fuck looks like a black skeletor.

 

Posted by: Killerdog at December 26, 2013 10:00 AM (cVajf)

 

That watermelon diet is wack.

Posted by: Liberace at December 26, 2013 06:07 AM (zF6Iw)

29 If a tree fell in the woods and hit the ObamaCare server, destroying it, could anybody tell the difference? The error codes might come back a little faster and make more sense.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 06:08 AM (PYAXX)

30 My personal fave is when I was called Racist by MSLSD....oh wait that is every day this year.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2013 06:08 AM (9jfyN)

31 30 If a tree fell in the woods and hit the ObamaCare server, destroying it, could anybody tell the difference? The error codes might come back a little faster and make more sense. --- A point, you has one.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 26, 2013 06:08 AM (/Crba)

32 20 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.( Or tumor....)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It.

Also a serial liar. But then, we all knew that already....

Posted by: backhoe at December 26, 2013 06:09 AM (ULH4o)

33 Sharpton supposedly became a vegetarian. Great posterboy for that 'healthy lifestyle,' huh?

Posted by: --- at December 26, 2013 06:09 AM (MMC8r)

34 Sharpton?  The Science is settled.  If you smoke crack everyday, you lose lots of weight.

Posted by: steve at December 26, 2013 06:10 AM (67fLb)

35 If you smoke crack everyday, you lose lots of weight. Okay... I'm listening.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 06:12 AM (PYAXX)

36

The MSNBC on air cast walk into a bar.

 

The bartender  smiles and says " This is so cool.  I always wanted to meet you guys.  Me and my girlfriend just watched you last night. "

 

The MSNBC cast gave the bartender a fake smile and said  " Thanks,  glad you  like us"

 

The bartender replies "  like you?  I love you guys.  Are you going to try and make  an  Anchorman 3 ? "

Posted by: polynikes at December 26, 2013 06:12 AM (m2CN7)

37 MSNBC is clumped with a few other news stations, so in the morning I will flip back and forth and occasionally watch for a few seconds.

There is a smug pomposity about them that I find irritating. They exude an aura of liberal invincibility: "the progressive agenda is the one truth."

I can't wait until Mika gets mugged.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 26, 2013 06:12 AM (QFxY5)

38 On Friday, December 8, at 10:12 a.m., Roland James Smith, Jr., 51, a Harlem resident with a criminal record going back 30 years, walked into Freddy's Fashion Mart, a Jewish-owned clothing store at 272 West 125th Street, pulled out a gun, ordered all the black customers to leave, spilled paint thinner on several bins of clothing and set them on fire -- a fire that resulted in killing 8 people including Smith. Smith had been part of a group of picketers, led by Al Sharpton , head of the National Action Network and Morris Powell , leader of the 125th Street Vendor's Association, who had been protesting the eviction of Sikhulu Shange, owner of the Record Shack who was subletting from Fred Harari, the Jewish owner of Freddy's. The picketing, which had gone on for months, had led Harari to seek relief with the State Supreme Court. In papers filed just one day before the fire, he said, "Recently, the protesters have made motions of striking a match and throwing it on outside clothing displays or in the doorway of the store." An affidavit by Kareem Brunner, a black security guard killed in the blaze, said that he had been called a "cracker lover" and "would get mine as a traitor [to the black race]." Brunner, was the only black that Smith did not order out of the store before setting it afire. Besides Smith and Brunner, all the other victims of the fire were Hispanic and Guyanese. Store manager, Steve Brodsky, described how a particularly vicious demonstrator called Shabazz would force his way into the store, pushing Brodsky aside and shout "I will be back to burn the Jew store down -- burn, burn, burn." It has been reported that there is evidence that Shabazz worked for Mr. Shange. owever, the Jewish Action Alliance released copies of a tape containing speeches broadcast on black radio stations WWRL, WLIB and KISS attacking Freddy's, made by Sharpton and others during rallies going back to August 19, 1995. The tape was presented by Beth Gilinsky to the police and to the media, including the Jewish Post. Short excerpts from these tapes were printed in the New York Times, New York Post and Daily News. MSNBC= Al Sharpton. Case closed

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2013 06:13 AM (t3UFN)

39 34 Sharpton supposedly became a vegetarian. Great posterboy for that 'healthy lifestyle,' huh? --- I'm reminded of the Futurama episode with the vegetarians where they declared "We trained this lion to only eat tofu!" They then cut to the most sickly, mange-ridden lion you've ever seen, barely getting a roar out.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 26, 2013 06:14 AM (/Crba)

40 MSNBC fills its airtime with people who aren't smart enough to write for amateur webzine Slate.

Posted by: --- at December 26, 2013 06:14 AM (MMC8r)

41 36 AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 10:12 AM (PYAXX)

We're listening too!

///North America Mayor's Assoc

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2013 06:15 AM (9jfyN)

42 I can't wait until Mika gets mugged.

 

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 26, 2013 10:12 AM (QFxY5)

 

By a filthy Jooooo, no doubt.

Posted by: Liberace at December 26, 2013 06:15 AM (zF6Iw)

43 Oh don't worry. I'm sure every one of their viewers will proudly tell you they religiously listen to NPR and visit the "correct" websites. Posted by: AMDG
.......
Ahh yes.. I forgot how well Daily Kooks and HuffPo fit in as supplemental news sources.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 06:16 AM (f9c2L)

44 In the spirit of me being sick as a dog, tired as hell, and at work...MSNBC can DIAF.




 

Posted by: dananjcon at December 26, 2013 06:17 AM (wmU4G)

45 Besides everything else that's wrong with MSDNC, what strikes me is their utter lack of a sense of humor. MSDNC hosts/talkers fall into two categories: Angry, spittle-flying demagogues (Tingles, Special Ed, the recently departed Bashir) and smug, arrogant talkers who think their eye-rolling act is funny (Maddow, Hayes, Kornake.) Switch over to FNC and you'll find humor on just about every show. The inherently unfunny hosts such as BillO KNOW they aren't funny, which is why he has the likes of Dennis Miller and Greg Gutfeld on so much.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 06:19 AM (7ObY1)

46
"Chomsky!. Mommy is going out to the farmer's market to buy some kale.  I'll leave MSNBC on to keep you company."

Awoorough! *hiss*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 26, 2013 06:21 AM (kdS6q)

47 That collection doesn't have nearly enough LOD.

Posted by: dissent555 at December 26, 2013 06:21 AM (yR6A1)

48
MSNBC????

Wait.... you guys are saying they're still on the air????

Whodathunkit.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 26, 2013 06:22 AM (nELVU)

49
MSNBC????

Wait.... you guys are saying they're still on the air????

Whodathunkit.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 26, 2013 06:22 AM (nELVU)

50
MSNBC????

Wait.... you guys are saying they're still on the air????

Whodathunkit.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 26, 2013 06:22 AM (nELVU)

51 MSLSD consistently combines inappropriate smugness with the terminally disordered logic of radical Leftists. It features a bizarre cast of preeners and emoters pretending to have all of the answers collectively, that should ironically enough, be desperately seeking council individually. Â…Â….unintended comedy with tragic consequences

Posted by: ontherocks at December 26, 2013 06:22 AM (3+IKa)

52 MSLSD consistently combines inappropriate smugness with the terminally disordered logic of radical Leftists. It features a bizarre cast of preeners and emoters pretending to have all of the answers collectively, that should ironically enough, be desperately seeking council individually. Â…Â….unintended comedy with tragic consequences

Posted by: ontherocks at December 26, 2013 06:22 AM (3+IKa)

53 MSLSD consistently combines inappropriate smugness with the terminally disordered logic of radical Leftists. It features a bizarre cast of preeners and emoters pretending to have all of the answers collectively, that should ironically enough, be desperately seeking council individually. Â…Â….unintended comedy with tragic consequences

Posted by: ontherocks at December 26, 2013 06:22 AM (3+IKa)

54 Much like the Obama administration, MSNBC goes out of their way to find the dumbest, least talented people they can find.

Posted by: seems legit at December 26, 2013 06:23 AM (A98Xu)

55 Much like the Obama administration, MSNBC goes out of their way to find the dumbest, least talented people they can find.

Posted by: seems legit at December 26, 2013 06:23 AM (A98Xu)

56 Much like the Obama administration, MSNBC goes out of their way to find the dumbest, least talented people they can find.

Posted by: seems legit at December 26, 2013 06:23 AM (A98Xu)

57 If you watch that clip above at YouTube, you will see a link for Russell Brand on Morning Joe demolishing those turds.  He insults them right to their faces and they are clueless.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 06:24 AM (f9c2L)

58 If you watch that clip above at YouTube, you will see a link for Russell Brand on Morning Joe demolishing those turds.  He insults them right to their faces and they are clueless.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 06:24 AM (f9c2L)

59 If you watch that clip above at YouTube, you will see a link for Russell Brand on Morning Joe demolishing those turds.  He insults them right to their faces and they are clueless.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 06:24 AM (f9c2L)

60 44 Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 10:16 AM (f9c2L)

Speaking of cracked news sources...

so I was waiting at the CVS this am having been out of town for a week....

http://tinyurl.com/oeq9542


Environmental groups urge Duke Energy to develop solar power farm in South Carolina

Hey this couldn't be just another case of newfangled religion ignoring economic reality.


Duke's response with the Public Service Commission says it would need more than 2,600 acres for a solar farm to generate as much electricity as the groups propose. Duke also says the solar farm would not produce as much electricity as the natural gas plant on a 20-acre site.

The Solar Energy Association says the largest solar plant in the United States is in Arizona and produces just under 300 megawatts of electricity.


Oh okay about 77,000 homes for just around 2 billion dollars... so divide-

2,000,000,000/77,000=25,974.26


25,974.26/60(because you have to rotate the solar innards every five years max)=s $432.90 per month minimum....

I find it so hard to believe that we, as a nation, are 17-120 trillion in debt with this sort of reality based economic acumen.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2013 06:24 AM (9jfyN)

61 44 Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 10:16 AM (f9c2L)

Speaking of cracked news sources...

so I was waiting at the CVS this am having been out of town for a week....

http://tinyurl.com/oeq9542


Environmental groups urge Duke Energy to develop solar power farm in South Carolina

Hey this couldn't be just another case of newfangled religion ignoring economic reality.


Duke's response with the Public Service Commission says it would need more than 2,600 acres for a solar farm to generate as much electricity as the groups propose. Duke also says the solar farm would not produce as much electricity as the natural gas plant on a 20-acre site.

The Solar Energy Association says the largest solar plant in the United States is in Arizona and produces just under 300 megawatts of electricity.


Oh okay about 77,000 homes for just around 2 billion dollars... so divide-

2,000,000,000/77,000=25,974.26


25,974.26/60(because you have to rotate the solar innards every five years max)=s $432.90 per month minimum....

I find it so hard to believe that we, as a nation, are 17-120 trillion in debt with this sort of reality based economic acumen.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2013 06:24 AM (9jfyN)

62 44 Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 10:16 AM (f9c2L)

Speaking of cracked news sources...

so I was waiting at the CVS this am having been out of town for a week....

http://tinyurl.com/oeq9542


Environmental groups urge Duke Energy to develop solar power farm in South Carolina

Hey this couldn't be just another case of newfangled religion ignoring economic reality.


Duke's response with the Public Service Commission says it would need more than 2,600 acres for a solar farm to generate as much electricity as the groups propose. Duke also says the solar farm would not produce as much electricity as the natural gas plant on a 20-acre site.

The Solar Energy Association says the largest solar plant in the United States is in Arizona and produces just under 300 megawatts of electricity.


Oh okay about 77,000 homes for just around 2 billion dollars... so divide-

2,000,000,000/77,000=25,974.26


25,974.26/60(because you have to rotate the solar innards every five years max)=s $432.90 per month minimum....

I find it so hard to believe that we, as a nation, are 17-120 trillion in debt with this sort of reality based economic acumen.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2013 06:24 AM (9jfyN)

63 Christians should pray for Al Sharpton, He is in a need of a true conversion to belief in the Lord he claims to follow. He has blood on his hands. He needs to repent of that. Only God can turn his heart.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2013 06:26 AM (BC6cY)

64 Posted by: seems legit at December 26, 2013 10:23 AM (A98Xu)

Well, it's not like you can find a plethora of wild-eyed liberals that are smart and/or talented.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 06:26 AM (o3MSL)

65 Is MSNBC "hits" a typo of "shits"?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 06:26 AM (f6z8e)

66

I can't watch it. I'll leave it to the horde to comment.

Posted by: boned to the bone at December 26, 2013 06:27 AM (Ph479)

67 1 Every time I watch an MSLSD clip, I can feel brain cells dieing in my head. Therefore, I refuse to watch this consolidation of collected insanity out of self-preservation (and the fact that I want to keep my breakfast down). Posted by: RoadRunner at December 26, 2013 09:53 AM (kw1xk) I'm glad others do so, I don't have to. The mindset and the utter obliviousness of these cretins boggles the normal mind. Until I encountered the kind of goofs that actually believe the crap they peddle, I would not have believed it possible. These people are irretrievably ......gone. Mother Green doesn't attract those types, fortunately. Correction: Didn't attract those types. My time being pre-Junta.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 26, 2013 06:27 AM (Lpw3F)

68 Wasn't there a post just last week that Fox drew  bigger viewer numbers than the whole obama propaganda machine combined?

Posted by: Kafiroon at December 26, 2013 06:28 AM (U0DWi)

69 25,974.26/60(because you have to rotate the solar innards every five years max)=s $432.90 per month minimum.... I find it so hard to believe that we, as a nation, are 17-120 trillion in debt with this sort of reality based economic acumen. --- It's a religion and a way of life, which is why they ignore economics and logic when you tell them they're full of shit.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 26, 2013 06:28 AM (/Crba)

70 Gremlins on double expresso, designed it'

Posted by: luigi vercotti at December 26, 2013 06:29 AM (Jsiw/)

71 Anyone else notice how many TV economists are predicting a good 2014...but ONLY IF Congress "works together"? It's almost as if they're all Big Govt shills..

Posted by: soothsayer at December 26, 2013 06:29 AM (IabJy)

72 owever, the Jewish Action Alliance released copies of a tape containing speeches broadcast on black radio stations WWRL, WLIB and KISS attacking Freddy's, made by Sharpton and others during rallies going back to August 19, 1995. The tape was presented by Beth Gilinsky to the police and to the media, including the Jewish Post. Short excerpts from these tapes were printed in the New York Times, New York Post and Daily News. You can bet your sweet ass that all that high priced "talent" at MSNBC have private health insurance. I mean where else did sharpton get that head job?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2013 06:30 AM (t3UFN)

73 Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2013 10:24 AM (9jfyN)

Sven, you just can't let mere numbers get in the way of substantial green progress.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 06:30 AM (o3MSL)

74 22 How screwed up is this POS? In all my years playing with this robust, mature 1970s-era technology (ANSI X12 EDI), I have never seen implementations that missed by this far. It is as if they intentionally avoided anyone anywhere that actually knew anything about ANSI X12 business processes, 100% by design. As part of one of the salvage teams, we were able to come in and build an 834 from scratch in about 2 weeks, something the prime hadn't been able to do up to that point (in several years of development). As far as the transaction life cycle and reconciliation/remediation efforts that all within ANSI X12 are familiar with (and live day in and day our), much of it is still not required for initial enrollment, so is literally still TBD. If someone had given me the task of ensuring this all failed from an ANSI X12 standpoint, I'm not sure I could have done as good of a job as some of these folks did. It's that bad. One highlight for any of us that were around for 4010 implementations...this is program-wide so not restricted to one or more states I may be actively helping. Remember the mind-boggling gap that was there when you fired off an 837 claim...and it passed all syntactical edits? You would then send back a 997 that said "this was great" (since the 837 was syntactically correct). Then you'd try to actually load the claim to your adjudication system, where it would bomb on one or more semantic edits (hey, this MD isn't part of our network, this insured isn't one of our covered lives, this procedure code isn't valid for this type of network, etc.). Everyone was standing around with an acknowledged 837 that they couldn't load - and there was no mechanized format available to transmit the "rejection" of a syntactically correct 837 back to the provider? This was eventually fixed by allowing the "unsolicited 277" or "277 claim ack"...but it was painful, and for many years the response docs were just as proprietary as the NSF/UB mess we were replacing with the 837s... Fast forward to 2013, they have completely and totally replicated this logic bomb within the 834 business processes. The exchange fires off a syntactically correct 834 to a carrier who says "yep, meets the requirements as defined in the IG and CG" - but then they try to shove the enrollment data into their membership processes (either rules engines or just normal member load functionality)...boom. And yep, we're stuck with Microsoft Excel to transmit the failures back to the exchanges. EDI is pretty awesome and very dependable shit, until non-EDI people get involved...sigh

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 06:31 AM (R5qgD)

75 hose signing up for private health care coverage on the ObamaCare exchanges may be in for an unpleasant surprise -- they'll have insurance, but they might have trouble getting the doctor to see them. As hundreds of thousands enroll for coverage beginning Jan. 1, analysts are warning that the plans are likely to give them access to fewer doctors and hospitals. So much so, they warn, that the system could begin to resemble Medicaid, the health care program for low-income Americans. "Indeed, I think this will eventually be like Medicaid," said Merrill Matthews, director of the Council for Affordable Health Insurance. Matthews said the only way many insurers are going to be able to control costs is by "simply clamping down on the amount they are willing to pay." Just as with Medicaid, analysts warn that if payments get too low, many doctors might start refusing to see patients. That will leave more and more patients jockeying to see fewer and fewer doctors. They emphasize, then, that having health insurance won't necessarily translate into access to health care. "About half of the physicians in many communities refuse to take Medicaid patients because the payment system is just too low," said James Capretta, of the Ethics and Public Policy Center. Doug Holtz-Eakin, former director of the Congressional Budget Office, suggested some of the plans on the exchanges are going in the same direction. You can bet your sweet ass that all that high priced "talent" at MSNBC have private health insurance. I mean where else did sharpton get that head job? (oops bad copy job before)

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2013 06:31 AM (t3UFN)

76 59 Wasn't there a post just last week that Fox drew bigger viewer numbers than the whole obama propaganda machine combined? Yes, but it's still a drop in the bucket compared to the audience for the networks, which is where the LIVs get their "news" (if they get any at all.) Our side needs to stop reveling in FNCs numbers so much.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 06:31 AM (7ObY1)

77 I find it so hard to believe that we, as a nation, are 17-120 trillion in debt with this sort of reality based economic acumen.
Posted by: sven10077
.........
Well.. they took Math For Liberals 101 in college whilst getting their degrees in Women's Studies.. so, there's that excuse..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 06:31 AM (f9c2L)

78 On a semi-related note. One of my Lib brothers finally seems to be growing up and moving slowly more conservative. He's not there yet- not by a long way- but he's moving in the right direction. I was talking to Mrs. Tenther about it yesterday on the way home from his house, and realized that he's never had a job (besides low-level retail stuff) outside of government; neither of my brothers has. This brother's conversion seems to be based on finally having to sit on the other side of the (evaluation) table from teachers and slowly beginning to realize that most teachers aren't in it for the kids; they're in it for the paycheck. With that illusion shattered, small pieces of reality are starting to filter in.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 06:31 AM (PYAXX)

79 Well, it's not like you can find a plethora of wild-eyed liberals that are smart and/or talented. Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 10:26 AM (o3MSL) I wish I knew where they got the idea idea that they are. I know, I know...the rot of the post-70's University, but ..... geeeeeeezzz

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 26, 2013 06:32 AM (Lpw3F)

80 Never forget Hrothgar and Brandon we're the "dumb ones"....

anyway they win, I have pretty much made up my mind I am going to spend my remaining life getting away from these retards having control of my energy production and needs.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2013 06:32 AM (9jfyN)

81 I will read the hordes comments. I can not open this link. I went through enough torture at physical therapy this morning.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 26, 2013 06:33 AM (HVff2)

82 Only a few more days to buy Edison lightbulbs before they are outlawed and we all use Socialist Lightbulbs. One of the greatest American inventions of all time will be consigned to the rubbish heap of history. Thanks, Dubya! Heckuva job.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 06:33 AM (7ObY1)

83 I just can't bring myself to watch anything from MSNBC.  Sends my blood pressure skyrocketing and makes me want to throw things at the screen.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 06:34 AM (DrWcr)

84 It looks like I need to repost this from the abandoned thread here too:

"Crack mayor" is a fiscal con who has limited tax increases to the (imaginary) 1.5% inflation rate, cut spending by half a billion, ended or lowered city fees and brought city unions to heel, making him the best mayor I've known in Toronto in my adult life.

The leftist media especially the 9th-grade-level-written NYT wannabe, the Toronto Star, that was pissed off that their candidate, a married gay "ex" coke-head who lost $1-billion through incompetence trying to put the province's medical records onto a single database when he was a Liberal cabinet minister (where he was knows as Furious George by underlings over his violent temper) lost in a landslide to the not-quite-our-class-dear, overweight Rob Ford so they've been after him and his family since the day after the election.

BTW, the married gay mayoral candidate stage-managed finalization of the adoption of a black kid for the day of the election that, ha-ha, he lost; and recently his 'husband' went missing for half a day and was found wandering in a stupor (to coin a phrase) in a section of the city known for its crack houses---a story the MFM has shown surprisingly little interest in investigating. A MFM that has also been ignoring a Liberal mayor charged with massive corruption; the lesbian Liberal premier (the province's "prime minister") who is currently in a billion-dollar-plus scandal; and a Liberal former deputy minister of education for Ontario and close friend to the lesbian premier and the federal Liberal Party's leader, Justin Trudeau, who has been arrested for kiddie pr0n possession and creation.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 06:34 AM (f6z8e)

85 Posted by: soothsayer at December 26, 2013 10:29 AM (IabJy)


They are laying the ground work for being able to blame the Repubs if and when things don't work (especially any conservative/TP Repub), and establishing amnesty as the fundamental centrist position that the country is begging to be addressed.

The economic impact of the Obamacare debacle is not going to get much press even as actual bodies are being stacked up outside hospitals..

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 06:35 AM (o3MSL)

86 And remember that Fearless Leader chose to be interviewed on MSKGB rather than on a legitimate news network. He was afraid that even CNN wouldn't collate him sweet enough.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 06:35 AM (ee9LE)

87 I do not understand this multi-site fixation with posting clips of these idiots. I don't watch them on TV and I'm sure as hell not going to watch them on my computer. Out, out I say.

Posted by: Meremortal, ugh at December 26, 2013 06:36 AM (1Y+hH)

88 He was afraid that even CNN wouldn't collate him sweet enough.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 10:35 AM (ee9LE)

 

Collate?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 06:37 AM (DrWcr)

89 Posted by: akula51 at December 26, 2013 10:31 AM (R5qgD) Okay... I think I'm going to throw up now. As you say, ANSI X12 is a proven technology. Heck, you shouldn't even have to "develop" an 834, so many solutions already exist that will map your data to 834 (and then back again) that listing them all would be an exercise in futility. Holy crap that's terrible. At least the 837 then had the 835- so insurers could "accept" syntactically correct by semantically incorrect (as you say- well formed but bad data) 837s and just return the correct errors on the 835 (which is what they pretty well universally do now). There is no "pair" for the 834 that I recall, though.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 06:37 AM (PYAXX)

90 Can one of you Bible Thumping bigots show me where Solyndra and aid for Al Qaeda counts as 'giving to the poor?' I can't find it but Jimmy Carter says it's there.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 26, 2013 06:37 AM (IabJy)

91 I can't watch MSNBC. As the end of the year approaches and a new year begins. I need to center my mind on this: Philippians 4:8 New International Version (NIV) 8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. MSNBC doesn't qualify, but their "newspeople" do stand in need of prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2013 06:38 AM (BC6cY)

92 I always wonder how much MSNBC pays the cable companies to carry their tripe.

Posted by: JohnMc at December 26, 2013 06:38 AM (RHBWt)

93 Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2013 10:34 AM (f6z8e) Great post, Andy. Been following this from here close to the border. My fiscal con Town Supervisor is under similar fire. Happy Boxing Day!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 06:38 AM (7ObY1)

94
I one read that in Victorian England going to the local insane asylum to view the inmates in action was a form of entertainment for the upper classes.

Posted by: Kouper at December 26, 2013 06:38 AM (YBusZ)

95 Collate? Fellatio from a co-ed?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 06:39 AM (7ObY1)

96 Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 10:33 AM (7ObY1)

Don't forget to thank Rep Fred Upton R-MI)for the loss of your ability to buy incandescents!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 06:39 AM (o3MSL)

97 Happy Boxing Day!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 10:38 AM (7ObY1)

 

*throws a couple of jabs*

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 06:39 AM (DrWcr)

98 It's also a subtle way to promote 'moderate' candidates in '14, or else the economy [ie, Your Job] could suffer.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 26, 2013 06:39 AM (IabJy)

99 80 Posted by: akula51 at December 26, 2013 10:31 AM (R5qgD) Okay... I think I'm going to throw up now. As you say, ANSI X12 is a proven technology. Heck, you shouldn't even have to "develop" an 834, so many solutions already exist that will map your data to 834 (and then back again) that listing them all would be an exercise in futility. Holy crap that's terrible. At least the 837 then had the 835- so insurers could "accept" syntactically correct by semantically incorrect (as you say- well formed but bad data) 837s and just return the correct errors on the 835 (which is what they pretty well universally do now). There is no "pair" for the 834 that I recall, though. --- I'm coming at this from someone who knows jack-shit about insurance, but my guess is that no one who knows ANYTHING about insurance processing was involved in the design or implementation of this clusterfuck. The feds intentionally playing "Hot Or Cold" with states asking how to do this probably did not help since people needed to know how the process would flow and were just told "Not like that" or "You're doing good."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 26, 2013 06:40 AM (/Crba)

100 Don't forget to thank Rep Fred Upton R-MI)for the loss of your ability to buy incandescents!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 10:39 AM (o3MSL)

 

Oh, yeah.  Fuck him.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 06:40 AM (DrWcr)

101 Collate?
Yeah. Three-hole punch and staple him in the proper order.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 06:40 AM (f6z8e)

102 Well.. they took Math For Liberals 101 in college whilst getting their degrees in Women's Studies.. so, there's that excuse.. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 10:31 AM (f9c2L) *sigh* Yep, and it's so illuminating to listen to them attempt to elucidate on any issue requiring cognitive analysis of related facts. They don't proceed from one to the other logically. (duh) Evidently, somewhere in between the LIbEral brain goes off to Candyland, or some shit. Some days, my eyes are stuck in permanent roll.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 26, 2013 06:40 AM (Lpw3F)

103 67 Yes, thanks.  I don't watch "network" or cable news at all.  This is one of my main sites.  Friends and neighbors keep asking how I find out "stuff" and do not seem to know how to look for it.

Posted by: Kafiroon at December 26, 2013 06:40 AM (U0DWi)

104 Crack mayor" is a fiscal con who has limited tax increases to the (imaginary) 1.5% inflation rate, cut spending by half a billion, ended or lowered city fees and brought city unions to heel, making him the best mayor I've known in Toronto in my adult life. - Hmmm.. Maybe crack is wack. We should give some to Bo[eh]ner. I mean, it couldn't hurt

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 06:40 AM (ee9LE)

105 In other words, TV economists are sending the message that More Ted Cruzes = Bad Economy.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 26, 2013 06:41 AM (IabJy)

106 Hmmm.. Maybe crack is wack. We should give some to Bo[eh]ner. I
mean, it couldn't hurt

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 10:40 AM (ee9LE)

 

He'd probably start crying again.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 06:41 AM (DrWcr)

107 91 Don't forget to thank Rep Fred Upton R-MI)for the loss of your ability to buy incandescents! Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 10:39 AM (o3MSL) Oh, yeah. Fuck him. Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 10:40 AM (DrWcr) DOH! Memo: Gotta hit up the Dollar store today for some more 60s and a few 40s. Don't forget, asshole.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 26, 2013 06:42 AM (Lpw3F)

108

MSNBC.  Tune in to see a re-creation of the monkeys finding the monolith.

 

Except their monolith is progressivism and racism, not enlightenment.  But exactly the same otherwise.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2013 06:42 AM (BAS5M)

109 95 WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 10:40 AM (ee9LE)

On the next episode of BearFuckers John Boehner guest stars on the Breaking Bad Xmas Special...

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2013 06:42 AM (9jfyN)

110 Happy Boxing Day!
Thanks; and I hope upstate NY where you are didn't get hit badly by the ice storm. (We were fine here; the power was off for 17 hours but that wasn't too bad.)

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 06:43 AM (f6z8e)

111 Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 10:41 AM (DrWcr)

It would be interesting to see how bourbon and crack interact!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 06:43 AM (o3MSL)

112 DAMN AUTO-CORRECT!!!

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 06:43 AM (ee9LE)

113 I'm coming at this from someone who knows jack-shit about insurance, but my guess is that no one who knows ANYTHING about insurance processing was involved in the design or implementation of this clusterfuck. That would be par for the course. It was just a few years ago that health care IT (under the HIPAA IT rules) were forced to upgrade to the 5010 standard (that is: ANSI X12 501.0) from the old 4010 standard. Net benefit to health care companies? 0. Net cost? Millions, perhaps billions of dollars. All because CMS & HHS Said So.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 06:43 AM (PYAXX)

114 Don't forget to thank Rep Fred Upton R-MI)for the loss of your ability to buy incandescents!
Posted by: Hrothgar
........
But, his niece is Kate Upton.. so, in the spirit of the season, I will cut him a tiny bit of slack.. I'm a giver!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 06:43 AM (f9c2L)

115 Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 10:41 AM (DrWcr)

It would be interesting to see how bourbon and crack interact!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 10:43 AM (o3MSL)

 

Science!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 06:43 AM (DrWcr)

116 The courts ruled that the KKK could be sued under liability laws by blacks who had experienced "violence" as a result of their preaching violence in their newsletters.


Why would that not apply likewise to Al Twanee" Sharpton.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 26, 2013 06:43 AM (T2V/1)

117 80 There is no "pair" for the 834 that I recall, though. Correct. I come from the carrier world, so it was pretty obvious to me where the Grand Canyon-sized gap was within an hour or two of arriving onsite. I'm no rocket scientist. And there were people literally working on this stuff for years. Hell, I've heard rumors (cough) that there were even an entire set of volunteers within X12 itself who came up with an 834 guide specifically designed for exchange business (similar to the exchange-specific 820 transaction that we are or will be using). Evidently CMS wanted to do it itself, and so they took the base 5010 IG and "repurposed" stuff so that the subsidy and CSR amounts could be transmitted as free text.....yadda yadda yadda. And you know what happens when EDI stuff starts getting repurposed..especially when it's the regulator doing it. This onion is so large and we've really only started to peel layers. Wanna know the best part? Ponder this one - if an entity is having problems with sending/receiving "Add" transactions, guess how much focus they have given to "Change" and/or "Term" transactions. Yeah, all of these "enrollment" numbers are just numbers. Wait until someone needs to add or change dependents. That time bomb, it's a'ticking. Loudly.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 06:44 AM (R5qgD)

118 But, his niece is Kate Upton.. so, in the spirit of the season, I will cut him a tiny bit of slack.. I'm a giver!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 10:43 AM (f9c2L)

 

He didn't build that.  Somebody else made that happen.  No slack given.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 06:44 AM (DrWcr)

119 I one read that in Victorian England going to the local insane asylum to view the inmates in action was a form of entertainment for the upper classes.

 

Posted by: Kouper at December 26, 2013 10:38 AM (YBusZ)

 

Georgian England, not Victorian.  As in this picture from Hogarth's The Rake's Progress.  Just right of center you can see two ladies of quality tittering over the antics of the asylum inmates:

 

http://tinyurl.com/pzvgnr8


 

Posted by: Liberace at December 26, 2013 06:45 AM (zF6Iw)

120 Collate? Fellatio from a co-ed? - Then put her into a binder.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 06:45 AM (ee9LE)

121 101  Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2013 10:43 AM (f6z8e)


We had pretty much eliminated those power outages during ice storms here by having an aggressive tree trimming schedule.  However, a combination of factors killed that.  One a lot of people did not want their trees trimmed and the power company figured out it was cheaper to let the trees grow and kill the power about once a year and fix it then.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 26, 2013 06:46 AM (T2V/1)

122 Off, showmanship sock.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 26, 2013 06:46 AM (zF6Iw)

123 Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 10:44 AM (DrWcr)

Right Oh

I'd give Kate some slack, but not even the time of day to Fred.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 06:46 AM (o3MSL)

124 Then put her into a binder.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 10:45 AM (ee9LE)

 

After a three-hole punch.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 06:46 AM (DrWcr)

125 how is it in upstate ny? we're going to be driving through ohio to Rochester come Friday evening

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 26, 2013 06:47 AM (Bjl9x)

126 Evidently CMS wanted to do it itself, and so they took the base 5010 IG and "repurposed" stuff so that the subsidy and CSR amounts could be transmitted as free text Okay... I realize that to most of the 'Rons & 'Ettes this is so much Greek translated via pidgin Swahili, but to me, that's just the stuff of nightmares. I repeatedly had to tell one of my employers, "Yes, I know we change validation rules so they can send clear-text in that field. No, we shouldn't. It's designed as a coded field *for a reason.* There's an NTE (I think that's the 'Note' designation, it's been a while since I've had to speak fluent X12) available if they need to pass notes."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 06:47 AM (PYAXX)

127

@75

Justin Trudeau?

Lemme guess, Pierre and Maggie's son?

Posted by: steve at December 26, 2013 06:47 AM (3cY3/)

128 I'd give Kate some slack, but not even the time of day to Fred. So many dirty jokes...Why do you tempt me so?

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 26, 2013 06:49 AM (N3yqm)

129 I'd give Kate some slack, but not even the time of day to Fred.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 10:46 AM (o3MSL)

 

There's nothing slack about what I'd give to Kate.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 06:49 AM (DrWcr)

130 116 how is it in upstate ny? we're going to be driving through ohio to Rochester come Friday evening Nasty as hell here in the greater Buffalo area. Lake effect snow pouring down, visibility very bad, roads not so great, but I'm guessing the road crews have been on skeleten crews and should be ramping it up shortly. Hope you have better weather in the Rochester area.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 06:49 AM (7ObY1)

131 OT:  I rolled into my parents' driveway last night from out of state.  I woke up this morning to find my driver's side window smashed out and my phone and cash stolen which I stupidly left sitting within plain sight in the center console.  At least I brought my guns inside before hitting the sack.  Merry fucking Christmas to me.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 26, 2013 06:50 AM (5l5UA)

132 OT: I rolled into my parents' driveway last night from out of state. I woke up this morning to find my driver's side window smashed out and my phone and cash stolen which I stupidly left sitting within plain sight in the center console. At least I brought my guns inside before hitting the sack. Merry fucking Christmas to me.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 26, 2013 10:50 AM (5l5UA)

 

That really sucks.  Sorry that happened.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 06:50 AM (DrWcr)

133 Well.. they took Math For Liberals 101 in college whilst getting their degrees in Women's Studies.. so, there's that excuse. - Socialism is the triumph of ideology over mathematics.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 06:50 AM (ee9LE)

134 Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 26, 2013 10:50 AM (5l5UA) From one victim of car burglary to another- I'm sorry. It sucks.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 06:51 AM (PYAXX)

135 From a more libertarian position than conservative but linked in my sock... "We need more crack-smoking Rob Ford politicians" by James Delingpole. (And some of the inappropriate things attributed to Ford in the column are unsubstantiated [frequently] second- and third-hand rumours.)

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 06:51 AM (f6z8e)

136 117 that's just the stuff of nightmares Yeah, there are a half dozen or so of us here that know just how bad that statement is...lol I wake up nearly every day and fight the urge to just go to Five Guys and apply to flip burgers for $10 an hour. Even with virtually guaranteed employment (at 100-125% utilization) for the next three to five years at 125-150% of my full onsite labor rates, it's *that* tempting to just walk away and let someone else deal with this one. And on the seventh day, God created the ASCII text file. FML

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 06:53 AM (R5qgD)

137 Car burglars are terrible. I don't know for you, but for me the worst part was the value of what they stole was so much less than what it cost to get the windows fixed.

Posted by: AMDG at December 26, 2013 06:54 AM (t7OO0)

138 Then put her into a binder. Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 10:45 AM (ee9LE) After a three-hole punch. - Front door, back door, and one nostril?

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 06:55 AM (ee9LE)

139 #112 Yes, Vic, the enviros here don't like the aggressive tree trimming or all-out chopping-down; and NIMBY-ism has stopped efforts to bury power cables that might improve (but not totally eliminate) the problem.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 06:55 AM (f6z8e)

140 Front door, back door, and one nostril?

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 10:55 AM (ee9LE)

 

Ear.  You know, aural sex.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 06:55 AM (DrWcr)

141 I wake up nearly every day and fight the urge to just go to Five Guys and apply to flip burgers for $10 an hour. My current employer asked if I wanted to learn TIBCO for business process orchestration & automation. I've just come from 5 years of BizTalk work. I said no. We don't even do health care, but I'm scarred from previous EDI work (in general) that I'd rather just stay away. For something that works so reliably, EDI is a f*cking pain to actually "do." Mostly because the suits don't bother to understand what it's actually doing or how, so they always come up with "great ideas" for us to implement without bothering to ask us what such implementation would take...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 06:57 AM (PYAXX)

142 FenelonSpoke @ 54-
I believe you have correctly diagnosed Sharpton's disorder. It is guilt, the most insidious, gut-eating, flesh-dissipating kind. Of course, it could be AIDS, too. GOD can make both of those right. I wonder if he ever talks to GOD? The real one?

Posted by: EROWMER at December 26, 2013 06:57 AM (OONaw)

143 #127..Amen. Every day, I have to force myself to participate in this mess.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 26, 2013 06:57 AM (T0vPW)

144 Socialism is the triumph of ideology over mathematics.

1 + 1 should = 3 else unfairness.

Posted by: Libtard Math [/i] [/b] at December 26, 2013 06:57 AM (5ikDv)

145 Posted by: AMDG at December 26, 2013 10:54 AM (t7OO0) No, the stuff they got were a work laptop and my brand new tablet. A good chunk of change. They also either caught me on the ONE DAY (in I can't even remember how long) that I had failed to lock my door, or had the courtesy to use a slim-jim to get in the door.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 06:59 AM (PYAXX)

146 I couldn't watch the whole stupid thing. I can only take so much afore I want to do bodily harm. I cannot believe they have a whole channel devoted to stupidity and ignorance. A whole channel running idiocy 24/7. Why not devote a channel to cockroaches screwing? Complete waste of time. Those people should be shoveling shit out of outhouses for a living.

Posted by: maddogg at December 26, 2013 06:59 AM (xWW96)

147 I'll watch it after I finish taking a dump.

Posted by: Martin Bashir at December 26, 2013 06:59 AM (oFCZn)

148 Lemme guess, Pierre and Maggie's son?
Yes, Steve. (Or one of the Rolling Stones', IYKWIMAITYD.) The anointed one chosen by the Liberal Party faithful when they could have chosen, literally, an astronaut instead!

He's as bright as Obama but despite the MFM covering for his gaffes he's not protected by skin colour as Obama is (although there's a MFM attempt on to make him a heart-throb for the youth vote) so I'm hoping for the Conservatives to maintain their majority two years from now.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 06:59 AM (f6z8e)

149 thanks. going through buffalo on the way, unfortunately

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 26, 2013 06:59 AM (F+xWX)

150 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 26, 2013 10:57 AM (T0vPW) You know... one of us who actually knows this stuff (well, one of y'all directly involved with it) needs to write up exactly how much of a debacle this whole thing is from the IT side. Then we could publish it and really ruin some people's days. Heck, if you wanted, you could write it up and send it to me, and I'd post it from an anonymous source at that blog I don't have.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:01 AM (PYAXX)

151

Why not devote a channel to cockroaches screwing?

 

BET.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 26, 2013 07:02 AM (zF6Iw)

152 130 #112 Yes, Vic, the enviros here don't like the aggressive tree trimming or all-out chopping-down; and NIMBY-ism has stopped efforts to bury power cables that might improve (but not totally eliminate) the problem.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2013 10:55 AM (f6z8e)


We currently bury cables in new neighborhoods but burying them in already established areas is cost prohibitive. The last numbers I saw were about $1M/mile. 



And burying cables has it's own unique failure mechanisms.  Mostly it is flooding of the ground level transformers during heavy rains.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 26, 2013 07:03 AM (T2V/1)

153 132 scarred from previous EDI work The vendor who sells the translator that I know best (I was a product manager and actually had options on about 1% of the company when we sold it) was just sunset by the 2d or 3rd acquirer of the company we sold to. That should have represented the finality of the albatross known as healthcare EDI slipping its yoke and falling from my neck... But no, of course not. For as many folks who have told me they could solve all the world's problems with XML and .NET or some web service bullshit, there are probably 1000 successful ANSI X12 EDI implementations...all lights-out, unattended 24x7 operations. This shit may never actually die...lol.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 07:04 AM (R5qgD)

154 91 Don't forget to thank Rep Fred Upton R-MI)for the loss of your ability to buy incandescents!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 10:39 AM (o3MSL)

Oh, yeah. Fuck him. Posted by: Insomniac

Agreed. The Stupid Party is just another wing of The Great Bird of Prey. ( Yes, Pitchfork Pat has his bad moments, but he was right about that. Damn it all.... )

Posted by: backhoe at December 26, 2013 07:04 AM (ULH4o)

155 Sorry for the break-in. Does Bloomberg have an alibi? He believes in the broken-windows fallacy if I'm not mistaken.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 07:04 AM (f6z8e)

156 About to go have lunch with an Army buddy I've seen only once before in the last 20 years. Great guy, but a born and raised Flint, MI Democrat. Last time we talked he was all aboard Obamacare (because insurance companies= profit =evil), wondering what he thinks now.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 26, 2013 07:05 AM (ECZYG)

157 128 Car burglars are terrible. I don't know for you, but for me the worst part was the value of what they stole was so much less than what it cost to get the windows fixed.

Posted by: AMDG at December 26, 2013 10:54 AM (t7OO0)


I'm still trying to get estimates for glass replacement but I'm certain that this will be the case in this situation.


Anyway, thanks guys.  At least I got to see my parents on Christmas.  I dunno how many more opportunities I'll have left to do that.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 26, 2013 07:05 AM (5l5UA)

158 Sorry for the break-in. Does Bloomberg have an alibi? He believes in the broken-windows fallacy if I'm not mistaken.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2013 11:04 AM (f6z8e)

 

Think of all the economic activity it creates for fences, shady pawn shops, and drug dealers!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 07:05 AM (DrWcr)

159 141 one of us who actually knows this stuff (well, one of y'all directly involved with it) needs to write up exactly how much of a debacle this whole thing is from the IT side... Oh look, it's my raison d'etre...

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 07:06 AM (R5qgD)

160 I had read about the flooding of the ground level transformers during heavy rains before, Vic. So, yes, there's that too.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 07:06 AM (f6z8e)

161 G'morning Horde.  

Got some cool gifts, some useful gifts, and some edible gifts.   One gift I gave generated squealing, so I'd judge one that a success.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 26, 2013 07:06 AM (ioT3q)

162

@142

 

Yes!

Posted by: Dash Ripp-Rock at December 26, 2013 07:06 AM (GjPnA)

163 One gift I gave generated squealing, so I'd judge one that a success.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 26, 2013 11:06 AM (ioT3q)

 

*evil grin*

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 07:07 AM (DrWcr)

164 For as many folks who have told me they could solve all the world's problems with XML and .NET or some web service bullshit, there are probably 1000 successful ANSI X12 EDI implementations...all lights-out, unattended 24x7 operations I've had this discussion with others- and I *am* a .NET + XML developer. The moment two companies have to pass data (on a regular basis) between themselves, you're using EDI. The only question is whether you're going to use a robust, well tested, and well proven methodology (X12 here in the US, EDIFACT in Europe), or .NET + XML. If it's *just* two companies, the .NET + XML works well enough... usually. But still doesn't work well if we're talking about big files. And it falls apart completely if we're talking about big files AND more than just two partners.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:07 AM (PYAXX)

165 Must... not... make... joke. Must... ignore... T-ball setup... Aaaargh!!!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 07:09 AM (f6z8e)

166 "And remember that Fearless Leader chose to be interviewed on MSKGB..." - WalrusRex Thank you! I was just about to complain about always being compared to those tripped-out psychos.

Posted by: LSD at December 26, 2013 07:11 AM (5SlKF)

167 "We don't even do health care, but I'm scarred from previous EDI work (in general) that I'd rather just stay away."

Eh. EDI is a cakewalk compared to a SAP customization.

Posted by: JohnMc at December 26, 2013 07:11 AM (RHBWt)

168 EDI is a cakewalk compared to a SAP customization. That's certainly true. But I don't do SAP work, so that's not even an option.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:12 AM (PYAXX)

169

Eh. EDI is a cakewalk compared to a SAP customization.

 

SAP customization?  You poor, poor bastard.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2013 07:12 AM (BAS5M)

170 SAP customization? You poor, poor bastard. Depends on exactly what he does. He might be a poor rich bastard.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:13 AM (PYAXX)

171 155 And it falls apart completely if we're talking about big files AND more than just two partners. Yep. If you're sending that *thing* to anyone, chances are you're also going to need to send it to a regulator (in the US). So, practically every single B2B requirement ever thoguht up falls 100% into that "might as well do it with EDI" camp. If I had to fly above this clusterfuck from 35,000 feet and give the "reason why" we are where we are - you basically hit it in a nutshell (and I don't claim to have all the answers since I've only been stuck within one of these projects since after 10/1 - very deliberately from a resume perspective...lol). Everyone looked at this exercise in terms of the customer facing website - so it all had to be realtime, all webservice based, all blah blah blah latest and greatest untested unproven technology, etc. If it had a color ad, the exchanges needed three of them, and STAT! At the actual end of every day that I've been around, what *really* mattered was a BATCH 834 transaction sent once per day (if we can ever actually get into production) to a set of carriers. Everything should have been done in that context, since that was the only "output" that actually matters.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 07:13 AM (R5qgD)

172 #141...We have been specifically directed to NOT do that very thing. But, the facts are self-evident from the failures we see reported as successes every night on the evening news. You see the big 3 anchors speaking in hushed tones about 5,000 enrolling in this state and 20,000 in another. To just replace all the cancelled policies, they need tens of thousands per hour not every two weeks.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 26, 2013 07:14 AM (T0vPW)

173 EDI is a cakewalk compared to practically anything in IT. Christ, it's a how to on how to structure ASCII text files...lol Yet, it is somehow routinely fucked up by folks who think they know what they are talking about since they're so experienced with ETL, ERP, DW, or other systems. Odd stuff how life works and all.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 07:15 AM (R5qgD)

174 We have been specifically directed to NOT do that very thing. That's why "anonymous." I could probably take guesses- most of them would parallel what akula51 said just before your comment- everyone focused on the "flash" and completely forgot any semblance of "dash."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:15 AM (PYAXX)

175 If we're focusing on MSNBC, it must be a slow News day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2013 07:15 AM (t3UFN)

176 "If it's *just* two companies, the .NET + XML works well enough... usually. But still doesn't work well if we're talking about big files. And it falls apart completely if we're talking about big files AND more than just two partners."

Then sell all your stock positions as the SEC is mandating something called BRXML for all financial reporting in the future.

Posted by: JohnMc at December 26, 2013 07:16 AM (RHBWt)

177 Damn sandy , that really sucks . I hope the rest of your holiday goes better .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 26, 2013 07:16 AM (WK8VM)

178 Then sell all your stock positions as the SEC is mandating something called BRXML for all financial reporting in the future. O_o Err... what?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:16 AM (PYAXX)

179 This is the Headline in the Navy Times: "Personnel boss: TA 'not going to be touched'" Now, being a pervert I read that as "tits & ass", but of course it refers to "Tuition Assistance". But still someone should have caught that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2013 07:20 AM (t3UFN)

180 Wanna know the best part? Ponder this one - if an entity is having problems with sending/receiving "Add" transactions, guess how much focus they have given to "Change" and/or "Term" transactions. --- Not sure what you are working on, Mr Flintsone, but it sounds like it predates SQL.

Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2013 07:21 AM (Ua6T/)

181 Looks like just another multi-zillion dollar directive from those who know technology best - the US Government. Are they re-engineering XML to make it more EDI-like again? Seems like that happens every few years.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 07:21 AM (R5qgD)

182 I have never heard of BRXML. A quick websearch finds this line from a book called: "On the Move to Meaningful Internet Systems: OTM 2008" "brXML itself offers a small, agile syntax and few rules imposed at the syntactic level..." (emphasis added). Which makes it almost exactly the opposite of what you want in a) "meaningful" systems or b) in routine batch EDI transmissions. Holy crap that's going to be a CF.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:21 AM (PYAXX)

183 "...if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. ...MSNBC doesn't qualify, but their "newspeople" do stand in need of prayer. Posted by: FenelonSpoke If they make your blood boil, sure, don't watch. But if you have the right attitude, a little reversion by schaedenfreud (sp?) can be 'excellent.' Laughter is healthy. (Moreso than letting the clowns get to you.) The clip compilation is praiseworthy. To Alinskyize the enemy, Bathe in their tears And hear the lamentations of their pajamaboys -Conan 3:16 (forgive me Lord)

Posted by: mindful webworker - got turtle doves? at December 26, 2013 07:22 AM (ktPHV)

184

OK, that's it.  I've been spinning around in the chair for the last ten minutes.  Nobody's here and there's nothing on my desk that can't wait until tomorrow.  So here's a picture of Kim Novak:

 

http://tinyurl.com/msqasnb

And I'm out.  See you all tomorrow.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 26, 2013 07:22 AM (zF6Iw)

185

Depends on exactly what he does. He might be a poor rich bastard.

 

 

Ayup, there's that.  Filthy lucre.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2013 07:22 AM (BAS5M)

186 You probably have to fail a psych evaluation to work there.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 26, 2013 07:22 AM (DoZD+)

187 171 Not sure what you are working on, Mr Flintsone From a business process perspective, any "enrollment" transaction that one may receive falls into one of three broad categories - it's an add, a change or a termination. Based upon that, you have to do something with the record you received. It's logic stuff, so yeah, it definitely predates SQL.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 07:23 AM (R5qgD)

188 Just finished clearing downed tree limbs that the last snow bestowed upon my property.  I now have a truck with well stacked pine branches piled about two feet higher than the top of the cab.  Hope I can make it to the landfill without a loss of too many branches.

Yeah Winter!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 07:24 AM (o3MSL)

189 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 26, 2013 11:22 AM (zF6Iw) Wish I had some chair-spinnin' time. With about 85 percent of my clients being Canadian, I figured I'd have a nice quiet Boxing Day. But we are surprisingly busy. But I'm off tomorrow. 3-day weekend. So I'm good!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 07:24 AM (7ObY1)

190 It looks like I've got competition. Still, maybe there's something to be said for a nice piece of glass?

Posted by: couch fucker at December 26, 2013 07:24 AM (f6z8e)

191 "brXML itself offers a small, agile syntax and few rules imposed at the syntactic level..." (emphasis added). Bingo!!

Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2013 07:25 AM (Ua6T/)

192 Not sure what you are working on, Mr Flintsone, but it sounds like it predates SQL. The 834 X12 Transaction is the format used to send eligibility/enrollment information to an insurer. It has 3 different transactions (note the small 't'): "Add," "Change," and "Term." Add means just what it says- add a new person to a plan. Change means to modify their coverage in some way (usually adding or removing a dependent). Term means to remove the member from the policy completely. Virtually all 834 transactions are of the "Add" variety. We put more people on new plans than we modify or terminate. Especially with 404Care, where there weren't any policies *to* terminate or change. So if "Add" isn't working, it's a good bet they haven't even touched "Change" or "Term" at all- meaning here in about 3 - 6 months, there will be a whole new set of problems as people start needing to modify or even terminate their coverage.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:25 AM (PYAXX)

193 You know... one of us who actually knows this stuff (well, one of y'all directly involved with it) needs to write up exactly how much of a debacle this whole thing is from the IT side. Then we could publish it and really ruin some people's days. 
...
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 11:01 AM (PYAXX)

You or anyone else have any thoughts on the NoSQL Obamacare news that popped up recently?   

Heard it criticized as unproven, which is a big deal for a project with the scale and scope of O-Care, though I found it's used by some major companies.  Wondering how justified the flack is from a technical PoV.   (Some sort of XML-based database vs. relational SQL database)


BTW, about 60 pages into your draft, tis entertaining.   More comprehensive thoughts when I'm done and can give a proper big picture view.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 26, 2013 07:26 AM (ioT3q)

194 >>> it's an add, a change or a termination. Insert, Update or Delete if you aren't doing it on punch cards.

Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2013 07:27 AM (Ua6T/)

195 I have never heard of BRXML. A quick websearch finds this line from a book called: "On the Move to Meaningful Internet Systems: OTM 2008"

"brXML itself offers a small, agile syntax and few rules imposed at the syntactic level..." (emphasis added).

Which makes it almost exactly the opposite of what you want in a) "meaningful" systems or b) in routine batch EDI transmissions.

Holy crap that's going to be a CF. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 11:21 AM (PYAXX)


Oh come on, it's just using something ridic for basically every single financial transaction in the country.   What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at December 26, 2013 07:27 AM (Gk3SS)

196 You or anyone else have any thoughts on the NoSQL Obamacare news that popped up recently? I haven't heard the news, so I don't have any specific thoughts. Document Databases (of which NoSQL is a specific implementation) are fairly robust and proven at this point. IBM uses one in certain situations, as do both WOOT and Amazon. So I have no problems with the technology itself. It would depend on the use-case.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:28 AM (PYAXX)

197 183 So if "Add" isn't working, it's a good bet they haven't even touched "Change" or "Term" at all- meaning here in about 3 - 6 months, there will be a whole new set of problems as people start needing to modify or even terminate their coverage. Agree completely - except of course with the 3-6 months part. It's late December, so I can state with a 100% level of confidence that at least one of those folks who enrolled in October either: 1. had a child, 2. got married (or divorced), 3. changed jobs, 4. had a family member become "deceased", 5. etc. Every one of those is a life event, resulting in (at a minimum), a changed premium or subsidy calculation. Which needs to be conveyed via...yes, you see the immediate January problem.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 07:29 AM (R5qgD)

198 Well, I guess I'm going to go out and shovel some snow and then come back in for a snooze before my mid-afternoon nap. BBL.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 07:29 AM (f6z8e)

199

Santa Claus walks into a bar the day after Christmas.

 

The bartender says,  " looks like you've  had a long night"

 

Santa Claus says " yep, next year I'm going to get Obama to extend  Christmas  for a couple of days"

Posted by: polynikes at December 26, 2013 07:30 AM (m2CN7)

200 >>> Some sort of XML-based database vs. relational SQL database) I would expect that you could do an XML database in a single flat file (probably numerous files for search speed) but I can't picture that working well for a really big project.

Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2013 07:31 AM (Ua6T/)

201 Twitchy's collection of made-up Christmas specials is teh funny! My favorites (but they are ALL good!): Miley Cyrus's Twerkin' Around the Christmas Tree Rudolph the Red Meat Entree

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 07:32 AM (7ObY1)

202

An 834 X12 transaction  walks into a bar and orders a drink.

 

The bartender says,  "  say again? I don't understand you "

Posted by: polynikes at December 26, 2013 07:32 AM (m2CN7)

203   Every one of those is a life event, resulting in (at a minimum), a changed premium or subsidy calculation. Which needs to be conveyed via...yes, you see the immediate January problem. 

Posted by: akula51 at December 26, 2013 11:29 AM (R5qgD)


The schadenfreude at watching this blow up needs to be tempered with the realization that each failure is a person harmed who (probably) didn't ask for this.   

Ugh.   Future SW engineers better be taking notes on What Not To Do.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 26, 2013 07:34 AM (ioT3q)

204 BTW, about 60 pages into your draft, tis entertaining. That's good to know. My wife complained about the end of the first chapter...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:34 AM (PYAXX)

205 I would expect that you could do an XML database in a single flat file (probably numerous files for search speed) but I can't picture that working well for a really big project. Most non-relational databases don't use XML. Inasmuch as they represent the data, they tend to use JSON, which is more compact. Again, there are some very successful very large implementations of non-relational (also called "NoSQL" or "Document") databases. So there's nothing wrong with the technology. It's just that, like any tool, it has correct uses and incorrect uses.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:37 AM (PYAXX)

206 Again, there are some very successful very large implementations of non-relational (also called "NoSQL" or "Document") databases. So there's nothing wrong with the technology. It's just that, like any tool, it has correct uses and incorrect uses. 

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 11:37 AM (PYAXX)

That's the conclusion I was reaching.   With the amounts of incompetence spilling down into this project from the top, one wonders if there was any technology they could use correctly ...

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 26, 2013 07:40 AM (ioT3q)

207 194 The schadenfreude at watching this blow up needs to be tempered with the realization that each failure is a person harmed who (probably) didn't ask for this. As much as I am a defiantly and devoutly sworn enemy of all of this PP/ACA nonsense, you perfectly describe why I'm still involved at this point, yep. Knowing that our efforts (combined with many other hard working folks), if successful, may help sick people actually be able to see their doctors (regardless of who they voted for) on 1/1 certainly pwns the fact that our efforts, if successful, may help save one or more of these exchanges.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 07:42 AM (R5qgD)

208 Dang I'm bored at work... Any Morons in/near Grapevine?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:43 AM (PYAXX)

209 Did I kill the thread?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 07:48 AM (PYAXX)

210 akula51, an imperious wave of His Hawaiian Hand will allow these people to see their doctors on 1/1.

Posted by: t-bird at December 26, 2013 07:51 AM (FcR7P)

211

Yes Allen, YOU KILLED IT!

 

Denounce yourself immediately.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 07:51 AM (QuZie)

212 I had a nose-down-in-it tour of one of those showcase ANG Base solar farms that were mandated for Defense to pay for. The guts were protected by self-cleaning glass, and the propaganda officer (an old friend, but Following Orders) had been instructed to inform all who asked that they were expected to last over 20 years. You'd think they'd run out of electrons before then, no?

As an old glass man, I was unimpressed with how the weatherproof glazing was close enough to the ground to be covered with snow and ice for a couple of months a year, but hey. I think they're planning on a lot less snow soon.

So, divide the 60-month estimate by four to get 20 years, and you get an average of only $108/month. My problem with that is, I have a big house and my current average is about 20% less than that. Of course, our coal plant is being abandoned in place, the nuke plant is long in the tooth and has No Friends, and there's a gas Peaker Farm under construction, so once we get my average rate jacked up enough I'm sure the sunfarms will look good.

Because I've been Wrong All These Years. And now I Owe The World.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 26, 2013 07:51 AM (xq1UY)

213 Looks like it's going to be a sssslllloooowww day at the AoSHQ.

Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2013 07:52 AM (W72Uu)

214 Has anybody seen Toure's "how to shop while black" segment?  Is he ripping off Chris Rock's schtick or just being a jackass?

Posted by: Fritz at December 26, 2013 07:53 AM (UzPAd)

215 Looks like it's going to be a sssslllloooowww day at the AoSHQ.

Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2013 11:52 AM (W72Uu)

 

I guess that's to be expected it being the day after Christmas and all.  People are tired, traveling, hung over, etc.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 07:53 AM (DrWcr)

216 That screen shot of Feldwebel Ed Shultz--looks like a dildo with hair.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at December 26, 2013 07:54 AM (VAche)

217 Is he ripping off Chris Rock's schtick or just being a jackass?

Posted by: Fritz at December 26, 2013 11:53 AM (UzPAd)

 

Considering it's Niblet, probably both.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 07:54 AM (DrWcr)

218

I denounce myself for all thought crimes of all types, on general principle.

 

I wish to be shipped to a re-education camp immediately.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 07:54 AM (QuZie)

219 201 akula51, an imperious wave of His Hawaiian Hand will allow these people to see their doctors on 1/1. Yeah, it's also going to put Uncle Sam on the hook for paying for it - since most folks in the sanity-based universe have figured out you don't have to pay for coverage that starts 1/1 until late January. Thus we start down the track of bailing out the insurers (we won't have much choice). It's going to be a good day to be long on tar and feather futures.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 07:55 AM (R5qgD)

220 I denounce myself for all thought crimes of all types, on general principle.

I wish to be shipped to a re-education camp immediately.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 11:54 AM (QuZie)

 

*boxes soundly about the ears*

Snap out of it!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 07:55 AM (DrWcr)

221 Bought my own Christmas present today - top-end Patagonia Gortex shell system with liner vest from REI. Love them post Xmas sales!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 07:56 AM (QuZie)

222 As regards car break-ins, I have found the solution.
Don't leave a thing in your car, not so much as a candy wrapper or a flashlight.
Then, don't lock the doors.
This has been working for me lately.

Posted by: navybrat at December 26, 2013 07:56 AM (AW7Gr)

223 MSNBC?  Never heard of 'em.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at December 26, 2013 07:56 AM (lQCe+)

224 Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 11:54 AM (QuZie)

In times like these, it is best to be very careful what you wish for, comrade!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 07:57 AM (o3MSL)

225 Stopped snowing (finally) and the sun is out. Yay.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 07:58 AM (7ObY1)

226 Don't leave a thing in your car, not so much as a candy wrapper or a flashlight. --- What kind of people leave a fleshlight in their car? Oh, wait...

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 26, 2013 07:59 AM (/Crba)

227

Oow!

 

Ahh, thank you, thats better.

 

'Tips Hat to Insomniac'

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 07:59 AM (QuZie)

228 Oow!

Ahh, thank you, thats better.

'Tips Hat to Insomniac'

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 11:59 AM (QuZie)

 

Glad to be of service.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 08:00 AM (DrWcr)

229 Have to go to the dentist this pm to get fitted for my tooth implants and have a crown done. Oh the joy.

Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2013 08:00 AM (W72Uu)

230 Fleshlight in car? Mobile Jack!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 08:00 AM (QuZie)

231 an imperious wave of His Hawaiian Hand will allow these people to see their doctors on 1/1. Sure they'll be able to see their doctors. Here's what his Imperious Heinous hasn't considered- how are the *doctors* supposed to know that someone is covered? This is why conflating "Health Care" with "Health Insurance" is such a big f'n deal. Picture this scene. John Doe walks into his doctor's office on 1/3. He's been told that his insurance company has to pretend like he's covered even though a) he hasn't paid yet and b) he hasn't even actually made it all the way into their system yet. So he tells his doctor that he has brand new insurance from Aetna (to pick one) through the PP-Caca exchange. Dr. Doktor tries to verify insurance and can't (because Mr. Doe doesn't exist in Aetna's system yet). Dr. Doktor has two choices- make Mr. Doe pay up front (in full or in part) or just "accept" that Mr. Doe *will* have insurance, and file normally. If Dr. Doktor makes Mr. Doe pay up front, then (obviously) Mr. Doe *didn't* actually have insurance on Jan 1. He won't have insurance until his policy is actually issued. It will be retro-active to 1/1, but as far as Dr. Doktor is concerned, the payment for this visit will be between Mr. Doe and Aetna. If Dr. Doktor takes it on faith that the service will be covered, then he's screwed if it turns out Mr. Doe didn't really have insurance (for whatever reason- some people *will* claim that their insurance policy "just hasn't made it all the way through yet" when they never even enrolled). This is because Mr. Doe will (based on industry-compiled data) NEVER PAY. So which do you think Dr. Doktor will do? He'll have Mr. Doe pay up front- either the whole thing, or a fairly significant portion.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 08:00 AM (PYAXX)

232 So...anybody score any good hooch for Christmas?  I got a bottle of Bulleit rye.  Tasty tasty stuff!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 08:01 AM (DrWcr)

233

We have implemented a solution to that Allen as you noted - we have decided patients on NoCare will pay in full at time of visit. If payment comes through we will process a refund. Payments go in an escrow account. It's a GO at 0800 January 1.

 

Welcome to the 21st century!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 08:03 AM (QuZie)

234 So...anybody score any good hooch for Christmas? I got a bottle of Bulleit rye. Tasty tasty stuff!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 12:01 PM (DrWcr)


---


I received a rather tasty bottle of Port Wine from my Secret Santa this year....  very very good.


Unfortunately.... the bottle is now very very empty.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 26, 2013 08:04 AM (nELVU)

235 I tasted some liquor that was made from the leftover squeezings from Sierra Brewery, the ale maker. I have no idea what they called it, but it had a Sierra label. I was clear as water. And 180 proof. Damn near singed my eyebrows off.

Posted by: navybrat at December 26, 2013 08:04 AM (AW7Gr)

236 I received a rather tasty bottle of Port Wine from my Secret Santa this year.... very very good.
Unfortunately.... the bottle is now very very empty.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 26, 2013 12:04 PM (nELVU)

 

Tawny or ruby?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 08:05 AM (DrWcr)

237 we have decided patients on NoCare will pay in full at time of visit. If payment comes through we will process a refund. And as someone who worked at an insurer for several years, let me say that makes me *very* glad I won't be on PP-Caca. Most of the time those refunds come back just fine. But every so often paperwork gets lost, or there's just some problem in the Billing/AR/AP department(s) and they're... less than timely.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 08:06 AM (PYAXX)

238 So which do you think Dr. Doktor will do? Part of his imperial wave will open up the Treasury to insurance companies (well, the 'good' ones). "Take care of it," he'll say, "and just send me the bill."

Posted by: t-bird at December 26, 2013 08:06 AM (FcR7P)

239 I tasted some liquor that was made from the leftover squeezings from Sierra Brewery, the ale maker. I have no idea what they called it, but it had a Sierra label. I was clear as water. And 180 proof. Damn near singed my eyebrows off.

Posted by: navybrat at December 26, 2013 12:04 PM (AW7Gr)

 

Wow.  Probably put some hair on your chest to make up for it.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 08:07 AM (DrWcr)

240 That's the conclusion I was reaching. With the amounts of incompetence spilling down into this project from the top, one wonders if there was any technology they could use correctly ... Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 26, 2013 11:40 AM I'm thinking that JugEars and his minions were expecting to use "The Box" from John Scalzi's "Redshirts".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 26, 2013 08:07 AM (c2oll)

241 Darn exercise woke me up!!!
I knew I should have had the snooze first then gone out to do the shovelling after but noooo I couldn't listen to my inner lazy guy and now I'm going to have to add time to my after-dinner snooze instead.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 08:08 AM (f6z8e)

242 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 12:06 PM (PYAXX)

One of my docs already does this and has for some time!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2013 08:08 AM (o3MSL)

243 Payments go in an escrow account. You mean like a "Locked. Box."? That'll be great. Let the White House decide not how much you pay, but how much they will give you back. And WHEN they'll give it back!

Posted by: t-bird at December 26, 2013 08:10 AM (FcR7P)

244 I got a bunch of craft beers that I'll enumerate for the horde later on.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 26, 2013 08:11 AM (f6z8e)

245 Part of his imperial wave will open up the Treasury to insurance companies (well, the 'good' ones). "Take care of it," he'll say, "and just send me the bill." It won't matter. That's the point. When Dr. Doktor sends the request for verification of Benefits to Aetna, Aetna is going to say, "Uh... who?" Aetna won't pay for it first and then get reimbursed. Now, that will help people whose enrollments have gone through and just haven't paid yet- they're the ones who the Insurance companies have been "asked" to pretend are covered 1/1. Anyone else, there's just no way. It would be like asking you to pay for a meal you not only haven't eaten, but might not receive in the first place.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 08:12 AM (PYAXX)

246 168 Damn sandy , that really sucks .
I hope the rest of your holiday goes better .


Posted by: awkward davies at December 26, 2013 11:16 AM (WK8VM)


Thanks. While this is bad, it would have been an unmitigated disaster had I left any firearms in the car.


So, I'll get the window replaced tomorrow morning for $200 out the door, which brings me to a total loss of ~$500. That'd buy ~1.25 cases of .223. Oh, well.



Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 26, 2013 08:15 AM (5l5UA)

247

My last mountain state medical license to get is Idaha, should be issued in March, then I am off to some small mountain town for the cash and chickens practice...

 

"I have lived through much, and now I think I have found what is needed for happiness. A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people to whom it is easy to do good, and who are not accustomed to have it done to them; then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbor—such is my idea of happiness. And then, on top of all that, you for a mate, and children perhaps—what can more the heart of man desire?" - Tolstoy

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 08:15 AM (QuZie)

248 Well, I think we're arguing the same thing: everyone, by design, is going to get screwed. It's either going to be bad, or get even worse.

Posted by: t-bird at December 26, 2013 08:17 AM (FcR7P)

249 223 So...anybody score any good hooch for Christmas? I got a bottle of Bulleit rye. Tasty tasty stuff!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 12:01 PM (DrWcr)


My parents gave me a bottle of Ron Zacapa Sistema Solera 23. I didn't crack it last night as I was too tired to enjoy it, but I'll do so tonight.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 26, 2013 08:20 AM (5l5UA)

250 Merry day after Christmas. I got a big bottle of Buffalo Trace. I had to buy it for myself, but I am still happy about it.

Posted by: Grandpa Jimbo at December 26, 2013 08:20 AM (V70Uh)

251 It is telling what programming MSNBC runs on Christmas.  Yesterday it was a marathon of prison shows ("Locked Up!" or something like that) plus some other shows about disasters and so forth; the previous time I checked, a few years ago, it was a marathon of shows about serial killers.

Posted by: ULTRAMARINE at December 26, 2013 08:20 AM (yhJhK)

252
My parents gave me a bottle of Ron Zacapa Sistema Solera 23. I didn't crack it last night as I was too tired to enjoy it, but I'll do so tonight.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 26, 2013 12:20 PM (5l5UA)

 

Sounds great! Enjoy!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 26, 2013 08:21 AM (DrWcr)

253 As regards car break-ins, I have found the solution. Don't leave a thing in your car, not so much as a candy wrapper or a flashlight. Then, don't lock the doors. That'll work until a hooker finds out. Then she'll be doing transactions in your unlocked car.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 26, 2013 08:23 AM (4QSOR)

254 Any Morons in/near Grapevine? 

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 11:43 AM (PYAXX)

Grapevine, Texas?

Grapevine, Cali is in the same county I'm working in, but I'm pretty sure you'd be a lot more miserable in your posting if you were anywhere in Cali.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 26, 2013 08:23 AM (ioT3q)

255 Holmes Makes it Right was our marathon of choice yesterday. I thought it was the Irony of Ironies (lost on DiY of course) that the whole theme of the show is basically "this is what happens when you (or some idiot unvetted contractor) do/does it yourself and I have to come and fix it, dumbass." Perfect programming for the "Do It Yourself" Network, right?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 08:23 AM (R5qgD)

256 Parents live in a nice neighhborhood. Huh?

Posted by: Grandpa Jimbo at December 26, 2013 08:24 AM (V70Uh)

257 Christmas at the LazyR ( Used to be my router's ID- no longer ) was pretty subdued. I had to give my younger dog- Sasha, a Rhodesian Ridgeback-- back to Glynn county animal control where she had come from.

She was abandoned here last January & I adopted her- but she kept tunneling under my fence and running away. I live on a truck route. Two blocks away is a known trapper & killer of cats and possibly dogs. And there are rumors we have one or more vans full of Mexicans who steal dogs and use them in dogfighting rings.

It was the best I could figure out to do. She was a wonderful dog- loving and protective. But since I could not keep her in the yard given time she would have met an ill fate.

Cole-boy-- the late Miss Emily's Border Collie- keeps searching the yard trying to find her.

Posted by: backhoe at December 26, 2013 08:26 AM (ULH4o)

258 That'll work until a hooker finds out. Then she'll be doing transactions in your unlocked car.
Tell me about it!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz0jkktVfJ8

Posted by: george costanza at December 26, 2013 08:27 AM (f6z8e)

259 Nood open thread up. 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 26, 2013 08:28 AM (ioT3q)

Posted by: losthusker at December 26, 2013 11:01 PM (r/XjE)

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