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March 31, 2013

Muscle Car Quiz #3/Open Thread [CBD]
— Open Blogger

Usual rules.....first correct answer gets a Platinum Membership with the optional ampersand utility.

Extra year of membership for:
a)correct engine or
b) Moron who owns it.

The rule committee has agreed to a special prize for most elegant answer that may or may not be correct: One Get-Out-of-Barrel-Free card.

And the answer is:

1968 Dodge Charger 383 with a 4 barrel.

BCochran bought it as a junker for about $2,000 as his 18th birthday present. He spent 3 years restoring it.

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1 Dodge RT, 69

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 05:55 AM (53z96)

2 That's a Wellington Cosmo 487. I know it well. It's the car my great grandmother gave birth in.

It's a shame it only came in gray.

Posted by: runninrebel at March 31, 2013 05:56 AM (Y8dKf)

3 Since no emblems the engine is probably the standard 383.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 05:57 AM (53z96)

4 Moron can not be the owner because garage is too neat.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 05:58 AM (53z96)

5 AMC Super Gremlin

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 31, 2013 05:58 AM (MhA4j)

6 Doesn't have the R/T badge on it, eliminates the 440

Small round side markers make it a '68

I'm guessing 383

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 05:59 AM (mCvL4)

7 I was gonna say 383 also. With Keystone wheels. Neighbor kid had a new black '69 Chevelle SS sporting a set of those, too.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 05:59 AM (4Mv1T)

8 Gaia Destroyer

Posted by: dIb at March 31, 2013 05:59 AM (aRwtY)

9 Kinda looks like my bro's Javelin, but I have no clue.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 31, 2013 06:00 AM (ZshNr)

10 I'm going to go with some kind of Dodge or Plymouth. Challenger or Charger.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 31, 2013 06:00 AM (BAS5M)

11 It's electric, There's a cord coming from under the hood. Early model Prius?

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 31, 2013 06:01 AM (MhA4j)

Okay. A 383.

Two Barrel or Four Barrel?

I say a four barrel Holley.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes again! at March 31, 2013 06:03 AM (Md8Uo)

13 383 came with a 4 bbl. I don't think they ever made one with a 2 bbl

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:04 AM (53z96)

14 Cool car. But I hated working on Mopar when I worked in a shop as a teen. Those crappy hose clamps. Can't stand 'em.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 06:06 AM (4Mv1T)

15 It's as long as my F-250

Posted by: runninrebel at March 31, 2013 06:07 AM (Y8dKf)

16 You must really hate working on anything now. Those old 69 Mopars were a breeze to work on compared to the shit we have now.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:07 AM (53z96)

17 Extra Double Secret Extra points for the Moron who knows what "MOPAR" stands for.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 06:07 AM (4Mv1T)

18 At first, on this fone and with the rear end stripe I thought it was a Super Bee. Expanded the pic and didn't see the "little buzzer" emblem so guess not. Some kind of Charger? Not my area of expertise. I don't really have an area of "expertise".

Posted by: teej at March 31, 2013 06:07 AM (SFZtG)

19 1982 DeLorean DMC-12, 2.8L V6

Prior to retrofit for time travel.

Posted by: archangel at March 31, 2013 06:07 AM (kGcrY)

20 @16- My contempt was relative to other contemporary vehicles of that time. And REALLY hated changing Mustang shocks. Oy.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 06:08 AM (4Mv1T)

21 I thought large tracts of land referred to something besides the front bonnet of a Super Planet Destroyer XR545 painted in death gray.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2013 06:09 AM (k9TQr)

22 Did the Little Old Lady from Pasadena drive this? In battleship gray?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 31, 2013 06:10 AM (BAS5M)

23 It's a Chrysler product.. I will venture no further guesses.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 31, 2013 06:10 AM (UTq/I)

24 Bitchin' mag wheels!

Posted by: MoPar at March 31, 2013 06:10 AM (I88Jc)

25 MOPAR = MOar!!! PowAR!!!!!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2013 06:10 AM (k9TQr)

26 AP- You did need to have really good eyesight, and/or a spotting scope, to see over the hood.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 06:11 AM (4Mv1T)

27 Speaking of working on cars my wife took her Crown Vic (2003) by the Ford place because the lights were shutting off at night while driving. I did a little research on the 'net and it looked like a simple relay under the let hand part of the dash.

The SOBs charged her $900 to change that. A frakin relay smaller than my crank.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:11 AM (53z96)

28 It's a '68 Charger R/T But that is NOT the original paint but if the original had the stripe it's a 426

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 31, 2013 06:11 AM (MhA4j)

29 MOPAR - Mostly Old People and Rednecks.

What??

It's not like I made it up.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 06:11 AM (4Mv1T)

Ah, I had a '67 Plymouth Fury with a 383 that had a two barrel Holley in it.

Still a great engine.

Years ago (1968!) my Dad had a New Yorker with a 440 - 4 barrel. Now that was a hoss.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes again! at March 31, 2013 06:11 AM (Md8Uo)

31 Cord coming out of the hood means head bolt heater. This car belonged to a moron in the far north where its cold

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2013 06:12 AM (6f8S/)

32 At first, on this fone and with the rear end stripe I thought it was a Super Bee.
Expanded the pic and didn't see the "little buzzer" emblem so guess not. Some kind of Charger?
Not my area of expertise.
I don't really have an area of "expertise".

Posted by: teej at March 31, 2013 10:07 AM (SFZtG)

The super bees always had that yellow "bee" in the horizontal stripe in the back.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:12 AM (53z96)

33 All the Super Bees were painted Orange and black.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes again! at March 31, 2013 06:13 AM (Md8Uo)

34 Cord coming out of the hood means head bolt heater.

Or battery tender/trickle charger.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 06:13 AM (4Mv1T)

35 If it is not the original paint then it is likely that some of the emblems have been removed and then all bets are off.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:14 AM (53z96)

36 *looks at Vic's crank comment and bites tongue*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2013 06:15 AM (k9TQr)

37 Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 10:11 AM (53z96) Seems like all the new cars have been optimized to require either transition to the junk yard or factory dealer repair, unlike the Model T you used to own.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 31, 2013 06:16 AM (Cnqmv)

38 meh, not Japanese, pre-air bags or shoulder restrains, so impossibly dangerous, only a two-door so terribly inept for a single mom with 2 small kids, probably few cup holders and horrible gas mileage. We say, take a look at the new Honda Planet-saver instead.

Posted by: Consumer Reports at March 31, 2013 06:16 AM (/jHWN)

39 Plymouth RoadRunner, 383 w/ six-pack.

Posted by: Retired Spook at March 31, 2013 06:19 AM (ndCOA)

40 13 383 came with a 4 bbl. I don't think they ever made one with a 2 bbl
Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 10:04 AM

The full size Fury, Polaro, and Newport had the 2 bbl 383

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 06:19 AM (mCvL4)

41 Seems like all the new cars have been optimized to require either transition to the junk yard or factory dealer repair, unlike the Model T you used to own.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 31, 2013 10:16 AM (Cnqmv)

You have to have $20,000 worth of computerized diagnostic equipment to work on one now because all of the special computers, sensors, and smog shit.

Plus special tools to do just about anything.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:19 AM (53z96)

Posting my answer before looking at comments:

I'm going with '70 Charger... it's got the stripe, but no Super Bee logo, so I'll say 383 Magnum.

that's a beautiful ride.

Posted by: Terry at March 31, 2013 06:19 AM (VvdHP)

43 "think" was the operative statement there. I never personally saw a 383 in that era with a 2 bbl.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:20 AM (53z96)

44 It's an Gleaming Alloy Aircar, two-lanes wide.

Posted by: Geddy at March 31, 2013 06:21 AM (9Pr2h)

45 It's definitely a 68 Dodge Charger

No R/T, likely a 383 but could even be a 318

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 06:21 AM (mCvL4)

46 MOPAR = Money Out of your Pockets And into union asshole thieves thanks to baRry. Not a great anagram, but good enough for gov. work. and don't get me started on GM,

Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at March 31, 2013 06:21 AM (zZJJp)

47 I can just see that car with cop tires, cop shocks, and a cop motor

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 06:22 AM (8sCoq)

48 Polara

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 06:22 AM (8sCoq)

49 It's got the wedge hood (indentations in the middle of the hood) so it has to be a 1968 Dodge Charger with the 440 wedge motor, probably a 4 speed and the 'sport' package as indicated by the stripe on the rear quarter panel.

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at March 31, 2013 06:23 AM (IanLz)

50 Dodge Charger, 68 or 69.

Posted by: huerfano at March 31, 2013 06:23 AM (bAGA/)

51 And Vic do not get me started on Ford and the 'technology' of their cars. I am happy I escaped with a working car and less than $400 in expenses. It started merely as an oil change and replace a fog light before turning ugly and then somehow with less than 36k miles the brake light switch going bad - switch $16, labor $94. Gggrrrr.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2013 06:23 AM (k9TQr)

52 >>>The full size Fury, Polaro, and Newport had the 2 bbl 383

You mean Polaris, right? With a few minor mods it doubled as an nuclear attack sub for the USN.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 06:25 AM (4Mv1T)

53 Then again, it's a really cool peice of heavy metal back when cars were good at going fast in a straight line and capable of burning a full tank of gas and the tires off in one evening.

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at March 31, 2013 06:26 AM (IanLz)

54 You have to have $20,000 worth of computerized diagnostic equipment to work on one now because all of the special computers, sensors, and smog shit.

Plus special tools to do just about anything.
Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 10:19 AM

On the other hand, back then the car was finished at 100K miles, nowadays they're just getting broken in at 100K

Luckily with warranties and better quality, they don't need a lot of maintenance or repair

But yeh, you have to be a NASA engineer to troubleshoot and repair one

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 06:26 AM (mCvL4)

55 68 coronet. probably 383.

Posted by: Stephana at March 31, 2013 06:27 AM (nfC6Z)

56 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2013 10:23 AM (k9TQr)

This was the first major repair on this car and it should not have been "major". I have a feeling they just took her for a ride.

That part on the internet sells for $50 up to $300 depending on who you buy it from. Even if you bought the most expense one on the internet the labor for a 15 min job should not have been $600.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:27 AM (53z96)

57 1969 Charger with a 383 4 barrel carb.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 31, 2013 06:28 AM (jucos)

58 I know cars were more interesting back in the day ..

But one thing now, they usually start as soon as you turn the key

Back then, it was a rarity, especially in the winter or on a hot day when it's been running a while

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 06:29 AM (mCvL4)

59 Never had any problems starting one back then. Hot or cold days.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:30 AM (53z96)

60 How un-patriotic would it be for me to say that I am all but done with American metal? My 2007 Pontiac, bought new, with a 3.4 V6 that they've made forever, turned out to have a freakin' Chinese made 3.4, which required major valve work, thankfully in warranty.

Between that and friggin' Unions, I may have to throw my dollars at the South Koreans next time, although they may be union made as well.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 06:31 AM (4Mv1T)

61 MOPAR = My Old Pig Ain't Running

Posted by: crom at March 31, 2013 06:31 AM (rmgJr)

62 Small round side markers, definitely a 68 Charger

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 06:31 AM (mCvL4)

63 Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 10:29 AM (mCvL4) --------------------------------------------------- Electronic Ignitions and fuel injection. I had a 66 Newport with a 383. The smoothest running car that I have EVER had. I remember the distinctly Mopar sound it had as you turned the key. I miss the old cars.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 31, 2013 06:32 AM (jucos)

64 I am late to the thread, and did not read comments (naturally), but that looks like an Essex class aircraft carrier.

Posted by: elliot at March 31, 2013 06:32 AM (8zGOf)

65 Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 10:27 AM (53z96)

It's possible that the relay is buried in the front of the dash and they had to remove the entire thing to get at it.

But....my bet is on the dealership ripping off your wife.

Hell, that's how they make their money. All of them. The local Chevy dealer pulled that crap on me a few months ago. $1,500 estimate. I took it to a buddy's shop, and lo and behold...topping off the break fluid fixed the problem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2013 06:33 AM (3Mkrp)

66 I remember kicking in that mopar carter 4 bbl on a 340. You could hear it all the way across town. And it drew cops like flies to dog turds.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:33 AM (53z96)

67 >How un-patriotic would it be for me to say that I am all but done with American metal? BURN HIM Just kidding- if I ever buy another PU truck, it'll be a Toyota made in USA in a right to work state

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 06:34 AM (8sCoq)

68 MOPAR means... It could get better mileage and more horses but we de-tuned it to produce less with more.

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 31, 2013 06:34 AM (MhA4j)

69 59 Never had any problems starting one back then. Hot or cold days.
Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 10:30 AM

I remember distinctly that high pitched loud sound of a Mopar starter.

I especially remember hearing it over and over till the battery died

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 06:34 AM (mCvL4)

70 We have already decided since Ford quit making the car we like our next "family" car with be a Toyota Rav4.

I will probably never get a new truck. I don't put more than 2K miles a year on mine now since I retired.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:35 AM (53z96)

71 I drive, proudly, an old piece of shit.

Posted by: zsasz at March 31, 2013 06:37 AM (MMC8r)

1968 Dodge Charger?

Posted by: Hill Country Texan at March 31, 2013 06:38 AM (uEj2D)

73 I just bought a '13 Honda Accord. Probably more American than anything else I've ever bought. Nice car (so far) but it lacks character. Nothing will ever come close to being a mid 50's to late 60's American car. Nothing.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 31, 2013 06:38 AM (jucos)

74 I may have to throw my dollars at the South Koreans next time, although they may be union made as well.

I like my Santa Fe. They have American factories, probably not union.

Posted by: fluffy at March 31, 2013 06:38 AM (z9HTb)

75 I had 3 Mopars, 69 Fury, 69 Road Runner, 72 Dodge Demon

New Jersey moonscape roads combined with Chrysler's Amish suspension, you hit a pebble and you need a front end alignment

It was cheaper just to keep replacing the tires

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 06:39 AM (mCvL4)

76 I took it to a buddy's shop, and lo and behold...topping off the break fluid fixed the problem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2013 10:33 AM (3Mkrp)

I took it to a local guy we have had good experience with and he said it was dealer only stuff. Wife was going over there anyway so she stopped on the way back.

If she had called and said it was going to cost $900 I would have told her to bring it home.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:39 AM (53z96)

77 >I will probably never get a new truck. I don't put more than 2K miles a year on mine now since I retired. Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 10:35 AM (53z96) since you're retired, I think it's a rule that you now have to buy a red Mercury Sable and drive it 15 mph under the speed limit at all times

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 06:40 AM (8sCoq)

78 Jones- Excellent point. Good old friend bought a new Tundra 8-9 years ago. Said it was the best riding truck he ever owned.

I love everything about what was once American made. I have driven the biggest sofas-on-wheels I could afford, and LONG before I was ever old enough to own them.

Last new car for me was a Cadillac DTS, which I sold in 2010 shortly before the warranty expired once I learned you have to remove the entire front bumper skin to replace the HID headlamps. $1000.

My current ride is a 22 yo truck. I call it the "forever truck". Rarely breaks And it was made by Tojo's people.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 06:40 AM (4Mv1T)

79 My first car was a 1970 Plymouth Satellite two-door. I still have what's left of it, which ain't much.

Posted by: zsasz at March 31, 2013 06:40 AM (MMC8r)

80 since you're retired, I think it's a rule that you now have to buy a red Mercury Sable and drive it 15 mph under the speed limit at all times

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 10:40 AM (8sCoq)

My last speeding ticket was for 55 in a 35.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:42 AM (53z96)

81 It's possible that the relay is buried in the front of the dash and they had to remove the entire thing to get at it. That's 'fuck you' engineering for you.

Posted by: zsasz at March 31, 2013 06:42 AM (MMC8r)

82 I will probably never get a new truck. I don't put more than 2K miles a year on mine now since I retired. Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 10:35 AM (53z96) since you're retired, I think it's a rule that you now have to buy a red Mercury Sable and drive it 15 mph under the speed limit at all times Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 10:40 AM (8sCoq) --------------------------------------------------- I thought is was a Mercury Marquis.... with the same driving rules.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 31, 2013 06:42 AM (jucos)

83 FTR I drive a 2004 F150. Has a little over 60k miles. But since I got the bike 2 yrs ago I've put more miles on the bike than on the truck.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 06:42 AM (8sCoq)

84 I thought is was a Mercury Marquis.... with the same driving rules.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 31, 2013 10:42 AM (jucos)

They don't make those anymore.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:43 AM (53z96)

85 FTR I drive a 2004 F150. Has a little over 60k miles. But since I got the bike 2 yrs ago I've put more miles on the bike than on the truck.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 10:42 AM (8sCoq)

LOL, my 96 F-150 only has 55K on it.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:44 AM (53z96)

86 '68 R/T. It'd be a shame to put that much into a car and not have a 426 pulling it.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at March 31, 2013 06:45 AM (i7B17)

87 Well its a '68 charger, but it could have anything in it. The 318-2barrel was standard, but it can have anything from a frigging slant 6 up to a hemi.

I had a 1968, 1970, and a 1971 roadrunner. I still have a 440-6pack engine in the garage. One day....one day

Posted by: Berserker at March 31, 2013 06:45 AM (FMbng)

88 There should be truth in advertising. Henceforth all Service Departments will be called Viking. For surely you will be plundered of all wealth.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2013 06:45 AM (k9TQr)

89 73 I just bought a '13 Honda Accord. Probably more American than anything else I've ever bought. Nice car (so far) but it lacks character. Nothing will ever come close to being a mid 50's to late 60's American car. Nothing. Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 31, 2013 10:38 AM (jucos) Yep pretty good chance that the engine was built in ohio and the car assembled as well. Hell Honda exports v6 engines out of ohio to other countries.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 31, 2013 06:45 AM (/vrp2)

90 '68 R/T. It'd be a shame to put that much into a car and not have a 426 pulling it.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at March 31, 2013 10:45 AM (i7B17)

It may have if the emblems have been pulled when it was painted.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:46 AM (53z96)

91 MOPAR stood for Motor Parts Division.

Holleys have a magnificent mythos (tuning the metering rods by scraping profile with a pocket knife), but I've had better luck with Carters. And don't laugh at a 2-bbl; I found a Chev junker and screwed it on to a Nova 307 we'd shoved into an ex-350 C20, and it turned out to flow about 450 when asked. When the back one opened up, it would make that 4-barrel sound. You know the sound.

Posted by: comatus at March 31, 2013 06:46 AM (qaVK+)

92 I'm currently working on getting a '71 Mach I to restore. It's the only car I can think about, so I can't answer the question. When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Posted by: LickyLicky at March 31, 2013 06:48 AM (rYeWI)

93 My dream truck would be one of those old Chevy Bla zers where you could take the top off of it

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 06:48 AM (8sCoq)

94 My dream truck would be one of those new monster Fords that can squash a Prius like a bug.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:49 AM (53z96)

95 I have a '96 Honda Civic with 295,000 miles on it. It was brand new when we brought our first born home from the hospital in it. The boy got his license about a month ago and now he is driving the car he rode home from the hospital in. Kind of cool. The thing just will not die. Oil changes, tires, and timing belts about every 90k miles. The Honda specialist that works on it said the car should be good for 500 to 600k if the body holds up. We'll see how long it lasts not that the boy is driving it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 31, 2013 06:50 AM (jucos)

96 since you're retired, I think it's a rule that you now have to buy a red Mercury Sable and drive it 15 mph under the speed limit at all times Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 10:40 AM

Don't forget either a left or right turn signal on at all times

"Never get behind a man over 70 wearing a hat" - George Carlin

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 06:50 AM (mCvL4)

97 since you're retired, I think it's a rule that you now have to buy a red Mercury Sable and drive it 15 mph under the speed limit at all times With his turn signal on.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 31, 2013 06:50 AM (eyJh9)

98 @91- I think we have a winner.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 06:50 AM (4Mv1T)

99 Fuuuuck I'm really jonesing for another hot rod. I really want another '70 roadrunner, but I could be an asshole and shoehorn the 6pack motor into a '69 dart and make a death sled.

Posted by: Berserker at March 31, 2013 06:51 AM (FMbng)

100 The 318-2barrel was standard, but it can have anything from a frigging slant 6 up to a hemi. A slant six in a car that size is just painful to contemplate. I love the slant six engine-- I think it's a masterpiece of functionality and durability, real quality engineering-- but in a Chrysler B-body it would barely qualify as an engine.

Posted by: zsasz at March 31, 2013 06:52 AM (MMC8r)

101 69 charger, probably a 383 as it was more common then.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 31, 2013 06:52 AM (n8LUb)

102 That's one of BCochran's cars isn't it? One of the ones he and his family members are restoring?

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 06:52 AM (doBIb)

103 Vic you want the Ford F650 http://is.gd/5iY4o2

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 06:52 AM (8sCoq)

104 since you're retired, I think it's a rule that you
now have to buy a red Mercury Sable and drive it 15 mph under the speed
limit at all times

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 10:40 AM

Have you met my uncle mike?

Posted by: Berserker at March 31, 2013 06:52 AM (FMbng)

105 shoehorn the 6pack motor into a '69 dart and make a death sled.

Posted by: Berserker at March 31, 2013 10:51 AM (FMbng)

No shoehorn required. You could get a 340 in a Dart in 69 and they make a 6 pack version.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:52 AM (53z96)

106 Chrysler committed early to electronic ignition. If a dog peed on the wheel, it wouldn't start. I've never heard a satisfactory explanation of why, but their experience kept the points-makers in business for a generation.

Posted by: comatus at March 31, 2013 06:52 AM (qaVK+)

107 That's the Duke Boys winter car.

Posted by: Living-Right_In_CA at March 31, 2013 06:52 AM (iHcXO)

108 When I was in high school in the 70s I worked for a dealership in NJ that sold Chryslers and Triumphs

Needless to say, the service dept was always busy

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 06:53 AM (mCvL4)

109 Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 10:52 AM (8sCoq)

LOL, yeah, but that's not stock.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 06:53 AM (53z96)

110 But if you want a PU on steroids, get a Unimog http://is.gd/h9WnTE

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 06:54 AM (8sCoq)

111 I love the slant six engine-- I think it's a masterpiece of functionality and durability, real quality engineering-- but in a Chrysler B-body it would barely qualify as an engine.

Posted by: zsasz at March 31, 2013 10:52 AM (MMC8r)

yeah it would qualify as a leaf blower at that point.

A friend of mine had a slant 6 duster. He threw a rod and blew a big hole in the side of the block. he was about 30 miles from home. He drove it home with the big hole while stopping occasionally to pour oil into the big hole. He made it home.

Posted by: Berserker at March 31, 2013 06:55 AM (FMbng)

112 >LOL, yeah, but that's not stock. Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 10:53 AM (53z96) true, that one's been lifted a bit

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 31, 2013 06:55 AM (8sCoq)

113 94 My dream truck would be one of those new monster Fords that can squash a Prius like a bug. Just about ANY truck from the 70's could squash a Prius. The 5mph crash test tells you everything you need to know.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 31, 2013 06:55 AM (n8LUb)

114 Chrysler made a great small block, I liked the 340 better than the big blocks

Same with Chevy's small block, greatest V8 ever made

Ford's 302 was their best engine too

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 06:56 AM (mCvL4)

115 Triumphs? I remember a kid that got a brand new TR-7 in high school. The thing was a POS. Spent about 1/2 the time at the dealer getting fixed. The poor kid was so proud to have it at first and it later defined him as a loser with a POS for a car. High school kids are cruel.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 31, 2013 06:56 AM (jucos)

116 Whatever it is, it rapes the hell out of the environment. Judd 2016.

Posted by: RWC at March 31, 2013 06:56 AM (sqp6o)

117 Dodge Challenger '71 or 72?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 31, 2013 06:57 AM (tqLft)

118 68 R/T. It'd be a shame to put that much into a car and not have a 426 pulling it. Posted by: Beefy Meatball at March 31, 2013 10:45 AM (i7B17) It may have if the emblems have been pulled when it was painted. Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 10:46 AM (53z96) **** Well that's not the original paint and the original stripes have been pulled off. The "Hemi" badge on the door is missing and the only R/T badge would be on the back.

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 31, 2013 06:57 AM (MhA4j)

119 The would have put you in the nut house back in '68 if you told them that one day Dodge would be made by FIAT.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 31, 2013 06:59 AM (CCq7M)

120 The would have put you in the nut house back in '68 if you told them that one day Dodge would be made by FIAT. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 31, 2013 10:59 AM (CCq7M) ----------------------------------------------------- Which, of course, is an acronym. Fix It Again Tony

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 31, 2013 07:01 AM (jucos)

121 Chrysler made a great small block, I liked the 340 better than the big blocks

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 10:56 AM (mCvL4)

I had the 340 in my 71 roadrunner. Yeah it was a great engine, but man that B body needed a big block. My 70 roadrunner would have ate it

Posted by: Berserker at March 31, 2013 07:01 AM (FMbng)

122 The would have put you in the nut house back in '68 if you told them that one day Dodge would be made by FIAT. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 31, 2013 I TRIED TO WARN THEM!!

Posted by: Dr. Emmett Brown at March 31, 2013 07:01 AM (MhA4j)

123 Well, my 6 X 6 has a straight-six Reo Gold Comet rated at 124 HP. It will go faster than I care to drive it. I have the short wheelbase: at 51, "things happen."

The slant-six was spoiled by metric ancillaries, like the air-injector pump. It was plumbed to death. The Rambler Six became a whole new motor with the addition of fuel injection. Pity no one had that kind of faith in the Slanty. Fine engine.

Most straight sixes were "economy" only in the sense that they cost less to make. Never got good mileage, although you can argue torque curves all day. The worst case was too-small, like the Ford 144 (and 170 in a van or truck). They wore out fast. The 200, which is what the Mustang was designed for, was a very respectable motor, and later got punched out bigger and bigger as a truck engine. Seven mains.

Posted by: comatus at March 31, 2013 07:02 AM (qaVK+)

124 Well today I'm gonna be pickin' up my Hemi Roadrunner. That's right, I said Hemi.

Posted by: Joe Dirte at March 31, 2013 07:03 AM (tOkJB)

125 I had a 170 slant six in a 63 Valiant....one of the sweetest running engines I have ever driven. At idle the machinery reminded me of a well tuned Singer sewing machine. They ran forever.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 31, 2013 07:05 AM (CCq7M)

126 It's not a Coronet. A Coronet is a four-door, the family sedan from hell.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 31, 2013 07:06 AM (wYVte)

127 I think I have found Vic's next vehicle

http://preview.tinyurl.com/cq6mu3k

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2013 07:06 AM (k9TQr)

128 Well today I'm gonna be pickin' up my Hemi Roadrunner. That's right, I said Hemi. **** I ran against one of those in my '98 SS. He stayed up with me until I hit 140 and by the time I hit 165 he was off the gas.

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 31, 2013 07:06 AM (MhA4j)

129

@ 108

Worst POS I ever worked on was a 1961 TR-3! Positive ground electrical "system" that I never could get everything working right at the same time on. Dual sidedraft carbs that could NOT be synchronized. Ignition "system" that ate points and condensers like a fat girl eats marshmallow Peeps.

Body that rusted so fast it made a Vega look good.

Fortunately I was able to find a sucker that really, realy wanted a British sports car...

Posted by: Harry at March 31, 2013 07:06 AM (eaere)

130

A moment of silence, please, for my 22yo S-10. It died last Sunday on the way to a gig, valiantly, in traffic on a major interstate highway. It's been blowing ECM fuses for a while, and I stupidly thought I could get one more ride out of it, maybe enough to pay for a new "brain."

227K miles, countless gigs and one, um, "congress" in the bed. It's been a good truck, and will be again. Now, it'll get a good long rest until I can come up with the money for an ECM.

If that truck could talk, I'd be in jail.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 31, 2013 07:06 AM (+z4pE)

131 119 The would have put you in the nut house back in '68 if you told them that one day Dodge would be made by FIAT. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 31, 2013 10:59 AM

Daimler owned them for a while, didn't help much

Other than the Charger and 300's that incorporated a mix of Mercedes components and were designed by the Germans

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 07:07 AM (mCvL4)

132 1969 Dodge Charger.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at March 31, 2013 07:08 AM (baL2B)

133 Silly damned thing. OK accelleration, mediocre brakes and handling, lousy mileage, and dead at 110,000 miles. The only thing going for 'muscle cars' was the "WHONNK!" when the secondaries flipped open.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at March 31, 2013 07:08 AM (5hNpF)

134

It's not a Coronet. A Coronet is a four-door, the family sedan from hell.

Had a HS buddy who had a Coronet 500 with a 383 Magnum and a 4-speed. No stripes, the ultimate sleeper musclecar. That thing was scary fast.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 31, 2013 07:09 AM (+z4pE)

135 >>If that truck could talk, I'd be in jail.

They can. Sorta. Little black boxes.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 07:10 AM (4Mv1T)

136 the ultimate sleeper musclecar..... **** Buick Electra 225 with a 455 Wildcat too bad the brakes couldn't stop it past 120.

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 31, 2013 07:10 AM (MhA4j)

137 Worst POS I ever worked on was a 1961 TR-3! Positive ground electrical "system" that I never could get everything working right at the same time on. Dual sidedraft carbs that could NOT be synchronized. Ignition "system" that ate points and condensers like a fat girl eats marshmallow Peeps.
Body that rusted so fast it made a Vega look good.
Fortunately I was able to find a sucker that really, realy wanted a British sports car...
Posted by: Harry at March 31, 2013 11:06 AM

Lucas Electric, aka "Prince of Darkness"

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2013 07:11 AM (mCvL4)

138 Book thread up

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 07:11 AM (53z96)

139 I have literally given some of my last dollars to Sabrina Chase! So much fun and at times very satisfying! No matter my quibbles... I want MOAR!

Posted by: Deety at March 31, 2013 07:11 AM (jVk2G)

140 127 I think I have found Vic's next vehicle http://preview.tinyurl.com/cq6mu3k Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2013 11:06 AM (k9TQr) Anna, I think I found Vic's next vehicle. Complete with driver. http://tinyurl.com/d48jche Heh.

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 07:11 AM (doBIb)

141 I went to look at a '56 Studebaker with the side-valve Victory Six. Not the car I wanted, but the owning couple were worth meeting. After a walk-around and a gape at the brocade stock interior-designer upholstery (on the door panels!), I asked if I could hear it run.

"No, you can't," the old toper told me, grinning. "It's running now." My mom had a Singer (the sewing machine, not the car). That thing put the Singer to shame. I had to put the hood up. You couldn't feel it by putting your hand on the hood. Now, only about 100 HP, but that was 100 HP until the end of time.

Posted by: comatus at March 31, 2013 07:12 AM (qaVK+)

142 59 Caddy hearse. cool.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 07:12 AM (4Mv1T)

143 Had a HS buddy who had a Coronet 500 with a 383 Magnum and a 4-speed. No stripes, the ultimate sleeper musclecar. That thing was scary fast.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 31, 2013 11:09 AM (+z4pE)

A friend of mine had a 1968 2 door coronet RT with a 440 and a 4 speed. That car was insane fast.

Posted by: Berserker at March 31, 2013 07:14 AM (FMbng)

144 My Dad used to own a Livery. We were always messing around in the hearses. Used to pick them up brand new from the factory and freak people out on the way back to MN by leering out the back windows. Good times.... Good times.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 31, 2013 07:15 AM (jucos)

145 Posted by: comatus at March 31, 2013 11:12 AM My oldest brother had one of those. Totally redone similar to the one you saw. A month after he had it finished and showing it to a buyer, a lady putting on her makeup crossed the center stripe and totaled it. Totaled herself too.

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 31, 2013 07:16 AM (MhA4j)

146 My last speeding ticket was for 55 in a 35. Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 10:42 AM (53z96) ..in '45.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 31, 2013 07:18 AM (aH+zP)

147 Geez EC you do find some unique rides there.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2013 07:20 AM (k9TQr)

148 Guess I'll go look at the leftist-local-rag till the gun thread's up. In a while, crocodiles.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 07:20 AM (4Mv1T)

149 Tobacco Road, You talkin about the Indy?

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 07:22 AM (doBIb)

150 68 gtx. 440.

Posted by: Stephana at March 31, 2013 07:22 AM (nfC6Z)

151 News and Disturber. Since we got a red gov this year on top of the red legislature in 2010, they've been wide open. Can barely stand to pick it up out of the driveway.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 07:24 AM (4Mv1T)

152 Anna, It'll be the last ride he'll need.

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 07:24 AM (doBIb)

153 Some guy pulled up to me at a red light and offered to fix my damaged front end. I told him I was insured by Smith &Wesson. He looked an me kinda strange and I said, "Wanna see my policy?" And he just stayed frozen at the light as I slowly drove away.

Posted by: blogforce one at March 31, 2013 07:24 AM (jiPUV)

154 :::::News and Disturber A friend of mine used to work there many years ago in the research dept. He said it was as blue as blue could be inside. I took a tour with Cub Scouts a couple years back, they had an entire wall of TFG photos and front pages. Stoopid. They are circling the drain now.

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 07:28 AM (doBIb)

155 Heh.

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 11:11 AM (doBIb)

Too many ugly tats

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 07:28 AM (53z96)

156 1970 dodge charger with 318 automatic and rally pack instruments

Posted by: Jim at March 31, 2013 07:32 AM (FVXmS)

157 Gone forever?

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2013 07:32 AM (tOkJB)

158 I knew it was one of BCochrans. Nice ride!

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 07:32 AM (doBIb)

159 Off by a year but everything else right. And that was without cheating.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 07:33 AM (53z96)

160 EC- Josephus Daniels' stated purpose for that paper, and is still true, is to help protect the poor and advance progressive ideals, or some such blather.

One of their editors lives down the street from me. I try to tolerate them since they are the ONLY ones doing any investigative reporting in our state capital, but now that their slant and bias is in full hard-on mode, it is just insufferable.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 07:34 AM (4Mv1T)

161 Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 11:33 AM (53z96)

I think the RT came only with a 440, but we'll have to wait for BCochran for the definitive answer.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2013 07:34 AM (0zDXv)

162 I think the RT came only with a 440, but we'll have to wait for BCochran for the definitive answer.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2013 11:34 AM (0zDXv)

RT is the Charger then. Charger RT was the full name.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2013 07:36 AM (53z96)

163 Tobacco, I stopped my subscription ages ago. WRAL is the same. Their website has turned into an anti-governor site now that Perdue is out and McCrory is in.

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 07:37 AM (doBIb)

164 '68 Dodge Charger wit a 318.

Posted by: kingrhino at March 31, 2013 07:37 AM (ESWD9)

165 oops, if that's a head rest on the drivers seat, then it's a '69.

Posted by: kingrhino at March 31, 2013 07:44 AM (ESWD9)

166 EC- The wife and I agreed that we have likely written the last check to N and O. Reading the paper in the morning over java had been one of my greatest pleasures for 30 years. It will be a hard habit to break. I spend very little time with it now, so maybe it will be easier once the subscription expires.

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 07:45 AM (4Mv1T)

167 And agreed on the WRAL website. It chaps my chapless ass. Or is that assless chaps?

Posted by: tobacco road at March 31, 2013 07:46 AM (4Mv1T)

168 That's the conundrum of a Sci-Fi fan from the 1980's, I suppose. When I was in Jr. High, there were TONNES of back catalog, sitting on the shelf, if you only stumbled upon a certain author. (Never let the Librarians corral you into YA Fiction! Most of it is crap and they are ashamed that they have NOTHING to offer in their stacks for adult (or precocious kid's) perusal. Hey! In the 1980's biggest concern at MY LIBRARY was turning over the 7 copies of the latest Tom Clancy novel! Also, you could rent one of 4 locked rooms with an IBM Selectric! I just spent a lot of time doing serial round-offs in back of the stacks when Dewey's Decimal Cards came up a cropper. (No SHIT, Lady! I have read EVERYTHING worth reading in the YA section (and then some!). I wished to follow some of these authors into the "Adult" stacks. Don't worry, I will never ever, ever dick you over and check out a Harlequin Romance. (Why was that such a worry for you and yet you were flummoxed at my request for Jane Eyre? I guess I will never make it as a Librarian

Posted by: Deety at March 31, 2013 07:48 AM (jVk2G)

169 It's the Car Book of the Month club!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 07:50 AM (4Mv1T)

170 Wee, Auto Trader. Ooh August, I don't got this one.

Posted by: Joe Dirte at March 31, 2013 07:58 AM (tOkJB)

171 Testing...testing...sybillance...sybillance. Danke schoen.

Posted by: My Sharia Moor at March 31, 2013 07:59 AM (liORJ)

172

91 Holleys don't have metering rods. You're thinking of the Rochester Quadrajet.

That will be $400

Posted by: DAve at March 31, 2013 08:11 AM (XDC0v)

173 @172 No, Edelbrock, I expect. The only Holley I've ever worked on was the 6 X 6; I converted the vacuum actuation to manual. My only rod-shaving was on one of those g'dawful guillotine-slide things for a race bike. I had to go back for more meter.

Posted by: comatus at March 31, 2013 08:30 AM (qaVK+)

174 Watermelon, watermelon, watermelon.

Those who have taken part in previous car threads know what I mean.

Happy Easter, all!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/b][/i][/u] at March 31, 2013 08:32 AM (CA2NO)

175 So, I missed by one year, but got the make correct! There should be a bonus prize, like in horse shoes or children's soccer trophies! I am quite the aging supermodel!

My Daddy taught me everything about old cars. Miss him daily and wish I could tell him I remember this and many other things he taught me. He would get a good laugh out of this.

Happy Easter! Hug your parents if you are still fortunate enough to see them today. My Mom is 800 miles away but we are close.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at March 31, 2013 08:41 AM (baL2B)

176 My '68 dart had the round side markers, till I change the fenders. Then they disappeared altogether. Never had an inspection problem.

I guess whennyou disappear the evidence, you don't get busted for not having them.

Posted by: sTevo at March 31, 2013 08:42 AM (VMcEw)

177 and the answer IS....

scroll up...you'll find it.

seems stock 'cept for those (Keystone?) rims. Key-stone. Not Keith Stone.

and...why is this classic Dodge owner a "moron"?

Posted by: Tim at March 31, 2013 11:06 AM (4fQHh)

178 They're Keystones alright. I remember them when they were new

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 11:11 AM (4Mv1T)

179 >>>why is this classic Dodge owner a "moron"?

He is a Moron, as in a member of this clan.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 11:16 AM (4Mv1T)

180 All 1968 Chryslers, Plymouths and Dodges are instantly identifiable by the round marker lights. Both fore and aft. One year only. The Charger RT came stock with the 440 Magnum with the 426 hemi as an option. No 440 six-pak option available in '68. Man I hate coming late to the hot rod threads. Ive had wo '71 Roadrunners, '72 Challenger Rallye and tucked in hibernation in a friends garage is a '70 Chrysler 300 convertible. As someone pointed out MOter PARts. Came on the scene in '74 I think it was.

Posted by: The mayor of Candor at March 31, 2013 11:19 AM (c4IBC)

181 He is a Moron, as in a member of this clan.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 03:16 PM (4Mv1T)

We even have a tartan and Ace wears kilts!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at March 31, 2013 11:21 AM (baL2B)

182 >>>and Ace wears kilts!

Guess that explains how the "no pants" thing got started.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 11:34 AM (4Mv1T)

183 Is it true that carburetor is French for "leave it alone"?

Posted by: Advo at March 31, 2013 12:31 PM (YdBtw)

184 Last!
Seriously though, I owned a '68 Super Bee with a 383. Another distinction besides the silly bee decal was that the hood had a faux scoop that rose an inch or so over the one in the picture. The extra room came in handy when you put an Edelbrock hi-rise manifold in it. I bought it "pre-owned', with a freakin Holley 3-barrel carb. When you kicked in the secondary, you could watch the speedometer rise and the gas gauge drop just as quickly. More fun stuff under the hood: dual point ignition, exhaust headers, 3/4 race cam. And the quite illegal in my state line lock for extra fun at the red light...
Good times, good times!

Posted by: El Zopilote at March 31, 2013 04:35 PM (rvJc8)

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