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September 27, 2013

Nairobi Westgate Terror Attack Demonstrates New Level in Cultural Psycopathy
— Ace

"Warriors," much like Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Speck, and Ed Gein were "warriors."

Soldiers told of the horrific torture meted out by terrorists in the Nairobi mall massacre yesterday with claims hostages were dismembered, had their eyes gouged out and were left hanging from hooks in the ceiling.
Men were said to have been castrated and had fingers removed with pliers before being blinded and hanged.
Children were found dead in the food court fridges with knives still embedded in their bodies, it was claimed.
...
Â‘You find people with hooks hanging from the roof,Â’ said one Kenyan doctor, who asked not to be named.
Â‘They removed eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil then they tell you to write your name with the blood.
Â‘They drive knives inside a childÂ’s body.
'Actually if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers. Here it was pain.Â’
A soldier, who took pictures at a bread counter and at the ArtCaffe, said he was so traumatised by what he saw he has had to seek counselling.

Pictures at the Daily Mail, only the first of which is bloody. It does not show the sort of psychopathic Torture Porn things described.

This account is so baroque and impossible I have trouble believing it. But it's hard for me to imagine this is some kind of government propaganda -- because the horrors described tend to show the government in a bad light.

The Kenyan government is already faulted for taking four days to clear the mall of psychopaths; the story only gets worse when one hears the psychopaths were taking their sweet old time cutting people's noses off, cutting eyes out of faces, and hanging victims by hooks.

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1 Savages.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 27, 2013 09:42 AM (naUcP)

2 Islam = murder

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at September 27, 2013 09:42 AM (MnSla)

3 We cannot, in good conscience, call sub-human animals anything other than sub-human animals, and they should be treated as such.

Posted by: Dax at September 27, 2013 09:44 AM (XyoGP)

4 I'd say that they are animals, but animals are less vicious.

Posted by: Lauren at September 27, 2013 09:44 AM (ELdpj)

5 That CAN be a two way street. Keep pushing muzzies.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2013 09:44 AM (ix+5k)

6 We must provide weapons and air support to their Brethren in Syria.

Posted by: Juan McLame at September 27, 2013 09:44 AM (D+lxs)

7 Let's hear the Progressives explain this as culturalism to be appreciated.

Posted by: Roy at September 27, 2013 09:44 AM (VndSC)

8 We have a two for one sale

Posted by: John W Gacy School of Military Tactics at September 27, 2013 09:44 AM (MhA4j)

9 Coming to a mall near you..... soon.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 27, 2013 09:44 AM (32Ze2)

10 You rang?

Posted by: John J. Blackjack Pershing at September 27, 2013 09:45 AM (W6bkf)

11 My new idea:

Mass murder of terrorists by bullets to the face. Close-up or far away, doesn't matter. No more Gitmo prison bullshit, rehab, or water boarding. Just kill them.

Posted by: EC at September 27, 2013 09:45 AM (GQ8sn)

12 Islam is a noble faith.

Posted by: George W. Bush at September 27, 2013 09:46 AM (ggRof)

13 Every last one of them and their mothers need to be burned from the planet.

Posted by: Marcus at September 27, 2013 09:46 AM (xXyjO)

14 Reavers ain't men.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 27, 2013 09:46 AM (qyfb5)

15 These dismembered body parts brought to you by the Religion of PiecesÂ®

Posted by: mugiwara at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (D5hxK)

16 They did the same thing at Beslan, including some horrifying rapes. They are psychopaths and they want to be remembered after they die. And now I have to stop thinking about this before blood shoots out my eyes.

Posted by: joncelli at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (RD7QR)

17 They are barbarians and collectively the world are cowards in the face of Islamic terrorism.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (hmUex)

18 What I don't understand is, if they were busy torturing people, how were they also watching the entrances and keeping the military at bay? I mean, it takes a good bit of manpower to hold a mall...

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (p7BzH)

19 There is something WRONG with Muslims.

Posted by: kathysaysso at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (6H6o8)

20 "Warriors," much like Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Speck, and Ed Gein were "warriors." *** Uh, Ace, did you see where Tamara Holder compared Cruz and Boehner to Gacy?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (DmNpO)

21 They removed eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil then they tell you to write your name with the blood

OK but is it as bad as having a Texas senator that consistently votes the wrong way? Next year is anyone but Cornyn year.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget[/i] at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (epxV4)

This unfortunately is nothing new. Read what happened at Breslan, and weep for the children. Read what happened to the young jewish couple at the friendship center in Mumbai.

these are the warriors for their god, doing his work. You will know them by their pumps and their works.

Posted by: rd at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (D+lxs)

23 BTW.

IÂ’ll have to finally conclude that Islam is a corrupt, unprincipled cult whose sole purpose is a despotic subjugation of people and freedom through any despicable means possible.

TheyÂ’ve obviously gained ignorant adherents through lies, conquest, torture and threats. They falsify their aims and rely on brainwashed, unintelligent acolytes and brutal enforcement to proliferate their evil.

No other mainstream religion boasts such a continuously despicable trail of destruction, ignominy and forced subjugation across history.

And IÂ’ll ultimately conclude the deafening silence from their adherents, who will stand on the tallest building and shout their grievances from our alleged prejudices, as acceptance of this behavior and the corrupt unprincipled nature of their false doctrine. That goes twice for the media.

Posted by: Marcus at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (xXyjO)

24 I'm sure this sort of behavior was strongly denounced by all those moderate, peace-loving Muslims we hear so much about. I'm sure this is just an aberration; it's not like they've been doing things like this for centuries.

Posted by: brak at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (iEoiA)

The next time I see a COEXIST bumper sticker I will be tempted to do something really ugly.

"Is this what you want to coexist with?"

Posted by: LGoPs at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (qQuYD)

26 Big deal. Christians are against gay marriage. Let's keep our eye on the ball, here.

Posted by: Bill Maher at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (bOKSd)

27 Ace, less Gacy and Speck and more like Manson and Hellter-Skelter. Religion of Peace.

Posted by: mrp at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (HjPtV)

28 It's almost as if some people here are against freedom of religion or something.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at September 27, 2013 09:47 AM (bb5+k)

29 But, but, but Madonna called for a Love revolution! Didn't these people hear?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 27, 2013 09:48 AM (ligos)

30 and yet we want to arm their buddies in syria

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 27, 2013 09:48 AM (HED0H)

Coming to a mall near you..... soon.

Maybe. But you can be sure we won't let you hear about it, you racist Islamophobe!

Posted by: The State-Owned, Sharia-Compliant Media at September 27, 2013 09:48 AM (zF6Iw)

I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Muhammad, the Psychopathic, Paedophile Prophet at September 27, 2013 09:48 AM (ggRof)

33 We need to ban meat hooks and eye goughers

Posted by: tmitsss at September 27, 2013 09:48 AM (yuTiW)

34 It's not torture unless they were waterboarded or something. Seriously, this whole attack has really been under reported.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 27, 2013 09:48 AM (T0Pku)

35 IÂ’ll have to finally conclude that Islam is a corrupt, unprincipled cult whose sole purpose is a despotic subjugation of people and freedom through any despicable means possible. Posted by: Marcus at September 27, 2013 01:47 PM (xXyjO) So would you put them outside the protection of the law? If not, I don't see any change in our trajectory.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at September 27, 2013 09:49 AM (bb5+k)

>>I'm sure this sort of behavior was strongly denounced by all those moderate, peace-loving Muslims we hear so much about.<<

Listen for it.

*crickets*

Posted by: Roy at September 27, 2013 09:49 AM (VndSC)

37 I forced myself to watch the beheading of journalist Daniel Pearl. Horror beyond anything I could have comprehended. From that moment I have had no illusions about who this enemy and the people who stand with them are.

Posted by: MostlyRight at September 27, 2013 09:49 AM (w9AQ4)

38 We need to ban burkas so people can't hide their identities. The bitch is on the run again with her four kids. When they do catch her, her kids need to be taken away and reprogrammed and baptized for good measure. Fuck islam.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 27, 2013 09:49 AM (T0Pku)

39 Oh c'mon. I was told Islam is the Religion of Peace. This stuff can't be true.

Maybe they were just filming a movie and someone thought it was real or sumpthin..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 27, 2013 09:49 AM (f9c2L)

40 pumps Pomps

Posted by: Fox 2! at September 27, 2013 09:49 AM (pCFIK)

41 Saw XXIV: Islam

Posted by: Beagle at September 27, 2013 09:49 AM (sOtz/)

42 Waterboarding is torture? Based on this they may want to offer it at the YMCA.

Posted by: Marcus at September 27, 2013 09:50 AM (xXyjO)

43 Our poor misguided brethren in the Middle East. We just need to understand what makes them angry.

As a way of doing this, I suggest we capture a bunch of these warriors, par-boil them until their skin is nice and tender, then individually place them into burlap sacks with several feral cats. Then, sell tickets to anyone who'd like to take a whack at the bags with a stick (you know, to piss off the cats and their claws).

This is a fine old Iranian torture that I believe will help us "understand" our sadly misunderstood "warriors" who hate us so.

Plus, I'd be fun!

Posted by: Sharkman at September 27, 2013 09:50 AM (5mRmR)

44 *crickets*

Posted by: Roy at September 27, 2013 01:49 PM (VndSC)

See??! You CAN hear it!!1

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at September 27, 2013 09:50 AM (p7BzH)

I'm extremely skeptical.

I really hope it isn't true.

This is Africa. They think you cure AIDS by having sex with virgins.

Third world countries are that way for a reason. People in C.A. think Americans come down there to eat their children.

Posted by: eleven at September 27, 2013 09:50 AM (fsLdt)

46 pray for the dead...hunt down and kill the murderers and their families....wipe them from the face of the earth

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at September 27, 2013 09:50 AM (8InM1)

47 29 But, but, but Madonna called for a Love revolution! Didn't these people hear? Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 27, 2013 01:48 PM (ligos) I wish Madonna and Gagaga and others of this sort would go stage their "love" revolutions in some Islamic countries.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at September 27, 2013 09:50 AM (bb5+k)

48 But, but, but Madonna called for a Love revolution! Didn't these people hear? They were fresh out of goats.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2013 09:51 AM (ix+5k)

49 Step 1: Get those in the West, particularly the universities and media centers, to stop pretending all cultures and religions are equal.

Step 2: Recognize that secular liberalism is unequal to the task of countering this barbarism.

Posted by: RT at September 27, 2013 09:51 AM (FdjiO)

and baptized for good measure

---- ---- ----- ----- ----- ------

I say make one Jewish, one Buddhist, one Christian, and one a Chicago Bears fan who worships Kali for navycopjoe.

For diversity.

Posted by: Beagle at September 27, 2013 09:52 AM (sOtz/)

51 We should Obamacare them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: mugiwara at September 27, 2013 09:52 AM (D5hxK)

52 But I'm the terrible one for noting that anyone who does this is a subhuman waste of DNA who must be put down in the same manner and for the same reasons that one would put down a rabid dog. The only differences is that my heart would go out for the dog.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at September 27, 2013 09:53 AM (VtjlW)

53 You know what makes me laugh? "No-gun" signs at malls. Like anyone gives a shit anymore.

Posted by: YourPoopyPants at September 27, 2013 09:53 AM (bOKSd)

54 Has Barack Obama scolded Americans to not rush to judgement? 'Cause that was a good one last time.

Posted by: Fritz at September 27, 2013 09:53 AM (UzPAd)

Then again this is a place of horrific treatment of prisoners.

So....

I just....damn.

Posted by: eleven at September 27, 2013 09:53 AM (fsLdt)

56 A reminder that, in a terror attack, you *must* fight with everything you have available, because this is what awaits you. Submit and die of torture. People like this virtually never have numbers. Without compliance they could not function.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 27, 2013 09:53 AM (qyfb5)

57 Coming soon to a mall near you...

Posted by: Aaron Burr at September 27, 2013 09:54 AM (uvVb6)

58 Can people who do this really believe they are going to Heaven for it? Do they ever, in any moment, pause and say, "Hang on, maybe I'm serving the other guy."? Part of the reason the Nazis used gas vans and showers was because it was emotionally hard for the soldiers to line women and children up and shoot them. Don't get me wrong, they did that too, but even they had some people saying, "Hang on, this isn't right." These people are in so dark and deep and foul they shouldn't be in human skin.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 27, 2013 09:54 AM (yETln)

59 "Warriors," much like Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Speck, and Ed Gein were "warriors." I don't always go on the warpath, but when I so, I make sure to target my rage at innocent, defenseless mall shoppers!

Posted by: The most depraved people in the world at September 27, 2013 09:54 AM (8wqqE)

Now I'm getting that analytics.js thing.

Posted by: eleven at September 27, 2013 09:54 AM (fsLdt)

61 It's not torture unless they were waterboarded or something. Seriously, this whole attack has really been under reported. Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 27, 2013 01:48 PM (T0Pku) Everything has been under reported. I lol'd at the big red drudge link to Seymour Hersh's critique of JEF and the MSM. Don't even get him started on the New York Times which, he says, spends "so much more time carrying water for Obama than I ever thought they would" Â– or the death of Osama bin Laden. "Nothing's been done about that story, it's one big lie, not one word of it is true," he says of the dramatic US Navy Seals raid in 2011. ... The Obama administration lies systematically, he claims, yet none of the leviathans of American media, the TV networks or big print titles, challenge him. "It's pathetic, they are more than obsequious, they are afraid to pick on this guy [Obama]," he declares in an interview with the Guardian. ... He isn't even sure if the recent revelations about the depth and breadth of surveillance by the National Security Agency will have a lasting effect. ... he is adamant that Obama is worse than Bush. o_O reaallllyyy?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2013 09:54 AM (IXrOn)

62 sometimes justice is best served 230 grains at a time.

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 27, 2013 09:54 AM (6J+oK)

63 Oh why oh why couldn't they have been Lutherans?

Posted by: The MSM at September 27, 2013 09:54 AM (xm1A1)

64 I once saw a half dozen Christians nearly take over a public street corner holding signs demonstrating their opposition to abortion.

Posted by: MostlyRight at September 27, 2013 09:55 AM (w9AQ4)

65 I'll put $20 on skeptical.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at September 27, 2013 09:55 AM (A0sHn)

66 This event was merely a venting of rage by oppressed brown peoples.

Posted by: The MFM at September 27, 2013 09:55 AM (Dwehj)

67 They didn't do anything Muhammad didn't do. Their goal was to terrorize. To make anyone who lives around muzzies to be afraid of criticizing Islam or Muhammad for fear of what a crazy muzzie might do to them or their family.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 27, 2013 09:55 AM (ZPrif)

68 Jesusland! Christianists!

Posted by: The MSM at September 27, 2013 09:55 AM (xm1A1)

69 It's a foreign country and all but again we have a swat team taking their time to rescue people in slaughter situations, like in navy yard or columbine. They sure have no problem dropping the hammer on home schoolers or raw milk providers, but for the job they're ostensibly created? not so much.

Posted by: joeindc44 didn't analyze nuthin, just offered his own anecdotal evidence at September 27, 2013 09:55 AM (QxSug)

70 Don't forget the rapes that also took place in that mall... I ain't Islam if there aren't a few rapes added to the horror

Posted by: Weew at September 27, 2013 09:55 AM (R0JuT)

71 Any votes to turn Somalia into an international target range?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Happy Hour! Cocktails of Betrayal 50% Off! at September 27, 2013 09:55 AM (hLRSq)

72
Rule 303, bitchez.

Posted by: Zombie Harry "Breaker" Morant at September 27, 2013 09:55 AM (TIIx5)

This is not even a Dr. Phil statement-masquerading-as-a-question:

How do you feel about the concealed carry of a firearm now?

Look at the shooter with an Remington 870 shotgun at the naval yard video and then ask yourself who knows better how to defend your life and livelihood.

How would have those Kenyans reacted when armed, dedicated terrorists began their work?

My guess is that the Israeli stylebook on dealing with terrorists should be very much in demand.

They declared war on everyone else and are waging it. They said so, they say so and they are doing so.

Thanks for the post, Ace!

Posted by: DM at September 27, 2013 09:56 AM (LaKlJ)

74 But what about the Crusaaaaaaaaaaades?

Posted by: The MSM at September 27, 2013 09:56 AM (xm1A1)

75 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 27, 2013 09:56 AM (/PCJa)

76 Step 1: Deport all Muslims. Every Single One. Step 2: End all student visas from Muslim students

Posted by: Lauren at September 27, 2013 09:56 AM (ELdpj)

AP got right on this story. And by right on it I mean they have been pushing the story of the Somali Muslim who saved a mother and her daughters .

It pisses me off that I cannot look at this story without thinking the AP has an agenda on how they report it. I would like to just be able to see a person doing an altruistic action. They have conditioned me . Ackkkk.

Posted by: polynikes at September 27, 2013 09:56 AM (m2CN7)

78 These barbarism are a feature not a bug of Islamism. In principle there is little difference between "moderate Islamists" like Mohd Morsi and these demons in human form. The former only never had the means,opportunity or the neccessity to use those tactics....And that is pretty much the only difference

Posted by: Dr Van Nostrand at September 27, 2013 09:56 AM (2rizr)

79 I say make one Jewish, one Buddhist, one Christian, and one a Chicago Bears fan who worships Kali for navycopjoe.

For diversity.

Posted by: Beagle at September 27, 2013 01:52 PM (sOtz/)

At least you wouldn't make them a Cubs fan. That would be curel and unusal punshishment.

Posted by: wrg500 at September 27, 2013 09:56 AM (kl3xJ)

80 They are misunderstood , maligned ,mistreated souls fighting their jihads in their souls.

Let's arm them with better weapons. so they can define their own lives , with self determination
for the children .

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 09:56 AM (nqBYe)

81 Burn [Islam] down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where [Islam] stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 27, 2013 09:56 AM (/PCJa)

82 Obama said they would like us

Posted by: Nanny Hag at September 27, 2013 09:56 AM (39IHH)

83 And the Inquisition!

Posted by: The MSM at September 27, 2013 09:56 AM (xm1A1)

84 This is Africa. They think you cure AIDS by having sex with virgins. And you know how they make sure the girl's a virgin? By raping a child so young that the rape kills them. Like infants. It's impossibly awful.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 27, 2013 09:56 AM (yETln)

85 "It does not show the sort of psychopathic Torture Porn things described." followed the links to standardmedia.co.ke censored images are left blank

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 27, 2013 09:57 AM (MhA4j)

86 7 Let's hear the Progressives explain this as culturalism to be appreciated. Posted by: Roy at September 27, 2013 01:44 PM (VndSC) ----------------------- They won't have to explain anything. They'll just put the story on page 36 of section C, exactly like they did with Kermit Gosnell.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2013 09:57 AM (dfYL9)

87 Story reads like something out of Hellraiser.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 27, 2013 09:57 AM (IesqW)

88 Hey, kids! Guess which words are missing from the linked article? C'mon! Take a guess! Here's a clue: "Religion of Peace."

Posted by: Chef Mojo at September 27, 2013 09:57 AM (S+kVz)

89 But one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Posted by: The MSM at September 27, 2013 09:57 AM (xm1A1)

90 The Keyan special forces sure know how to take down a parking garage though. Good job.

Posted by: polynikes at September 27, 2013 09:57 AM (m2CN7)

91 And, yet, there is a "debate" inside Somali immigrant communities in Minneapolis, Cleveland and Detroit about this psychopathic murder. Will the press investigate this?

Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2013 09:57 AM (+5ahd)

92 Third world countries are that way for a reason. People in C.A. think Americans come down there to eat their children. Witness. I was a missionary in Montreal. People believed some crazy stuff. Some literally thought Mormons were cannibalistic witches.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 27, 2013 09:58 AM (yETln)

93 It is just a response to our not listening to their hopes and dreams for peace

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 09:58 AM (nqBYe)

94 I never thought I would live to hear myself say this, but sometimes genocide is your friend.

Posted by: Berserker at September 27, 2013 09:58 AM (FMbng)

95 And Gitmo!

Posted by: The MSM at September 27, 2013 09:58 AM (xm1A1)

96 *crickets*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 27, 2013 09:58 AM (GjPnA)

Doing God's work, eh? Now they fucked up, 'cause nobody does God's work but Goldman, nobody.

Posted by: Roberto Luongo's Contract at September 27, 2013 09:59 AM (wsLRF)

98 So would you put them outside the protection of the law? If they want to be governed by theirs, I see no reason they should be protected by ours.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 27, 2013 09:59 AM (naUcP)

99 Rule 303, bitchez. I prefer Rule .308 or Rule .338.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2013 09:59 AM (ix+5k)

100 to be fair, all religions treat 'others' the same.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 09:59 AM (nqBYe)

101 This sounds like the reporting of Shep Smith's African doppelganger.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 27, 2013 09:59 AM (+lsX1)

102 I think Americans should just start carrying your concealed firearms anyway, whether legally or illegally. Unless you're going somewhere where you have to go through a metal detector, no one is ever going to know unless the circumstances require you to draw your weapon, in which case dealing with the law is the least of your worries.

Posted by: CJR at September 27, 2013 09:59 AM (Vqcn4)

103 God will know his own.

Posted by: toby928Â© at September 27, 2013 09:59 AM (evdj2)

104

Posted by: Fox 2! at September 27, 2013 01:49 PM (pCFIK)

Thanks

Posted by: rd at September 27, 2013 09:59 AM (D+lxs)

105 Everything is justifiable under the Koran if it furthers jihad. Literally everything. The Koran specifically allows for every possible heinous crime, murder and torture ... if it is done in the name of jihad, to make Islam control the world. There is no limit. There's nothing you can do that kicks you out of heaven in Islam, as long as you do it to further jihad and Islam. You are even allowed to blaspheme and curse Islam and Muhammad -- if that is necessary as part of a larger plan to conquer in the name of Islam.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 27, 2013 09:59 AM (ZPrif)

106 This account is so baroque and impossible I have trouble believing it. But it's hard for me to imagine this is some kind of government propaganda -- because the horrors described tend to show the government in a bad light. I suspect this is how a lot of our enemies over time treated our POW's. But, it has moved from an isolated battlefield, because there are no isolated battlefields, only where terrorists happen to be, which could be anywhere.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2013 09:59 AM (IXrOn)

107 91 And, yet, there is a "debate" inside Somali immigrant communities in Minneapolis, Cleveland and Detroit about this psychopathic murder.

Will the press investigate this?

Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2013 01:57 PM (+5ahd)

What?

Posted by: The MSM at September 27, 2013 10:00 AM (xm1A1)

108 of course, boooosh never bothered to push back against libs and their Abu Gharib nonsense by making noise about the Al Qaeda Guide to Halal Torture.

Posted by: joeindc44 didn't analyze nuthin, just offered his own anecdotal evidence at September 27, 2013 10:00 AM (QxSug)

109

We can't really call cutting off fingers and noses "torture" anymore.

That word is for waterboarding.

We've got find a different word that denotes actual brutal, permanent harm. Something that will sink into a liberal head.

Any ideas?

Posted by: jwest at September 27, 2013 10:00 AM (u2a4R)

110 And, yet, there is a "debate" inside Somali immigrant communities in Minneapolis, Cleveland and Detroit about this psychopathic murder. That's what enrages me. What is there to "debate" about torture of innocents? I mean, let's assume they really had the purest of motives. Their hearts were snowflake white. So why torture? Why dismemberment? Why slaughter children? There is no excuse, I don't even think there's an explanation for that. And yet people defend them. Worse, the people "debating" with them can't say for certain what their own "holy" book says about such practices.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 27, 2013 10:00 AM (/PCJa)

111 Sidebar:

That story of Sir Issac Newton going after the counterfeiter is a good read. I had no idea that he did that.

Sir Issac Newton = Vic Mackey

Posted by: EC at September 27, 2013 10:00 AM (GQ8sn)

112 someone seems to have misplaced all the signs (Not in our Name!) at the empty demonstrations in the streets .

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:00 AM (nqBYe)

113 38 We need to ban burkas so people can't hide their identities. Funniest thing I've seen in a while: Last evening at the gym, a Muzzie in full-Burqa working out, or trying to. That was one miserable looking, sweaty, uncomfortable Muslima, I tell you what. I had to avert my eyes to keep from laughing out loud. Last seen trudging miserably into a spin class after a failed attempt at using an ab roller while dressed in her Hefty Bag. I hope her fucking Burqa got caught in the pedals of her spin bike.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 27, 2013 10:01 AM (7ObY1)

114 This is just pushback for years of colonialism and imperialistic cultural hegemony.

Posted by: college professors at September 27, 2013 10:01 AM (iEoiA)

115 Bush is to blame!

Posted by: The MSM at September 27, 2013 10:01 AM (xm1A1)

116 Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 01:59 PM (nqBYe) Wait. What?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 27, 2013 10:01 AM (/PCJa)

117 That's odd because Islam is a religion of peace and the Koran forbid violence. signed xxoo the kind of person who believes that Islam is a religion of peace.

Posted by: joeindc44 didn't analyze nuthin, just offered his own anecdotal evidence at September 27, 2013 10:01 AM (QxSug)

118 Bonhomme, i was a missionary in Chile. They all thought all thought we were CIA. Spying on what? Llama herds. An d these rat bastard savages need to die.

Posted by: fastfreefall at September 27, 2013 10:01 AM (vuxgX)

119 What's interesting is US investigation teams are already there.... Benghazi, not so much

Posted by: The Jackhole at September 27, 2013 10:01 AM (nTgAI)

120 Looks like GWB was full of shit. Again.

Posted by: maddogg at September 27, 2013 10:02 AM (xWW96)

121 You think this is bad? Why, I just heard that someone bought some Barilla pasta today! Now THAT is simply unacceptable!

Posted by: MSM at September 27, 2013 10:02 AM (ggRof)

122 OT: Senate vote chart - see how your senator voted. Warning: Link goes to NYT.... http://tinyurl.com/oezvpkk

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at September 27, 2013 10:02 AM (bCEmE)

123 People like this virtually never have numbers. Without compliance they could not function.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 27, 2013 01:53 PM (qyfb5)

That's historically true of any tyrannical government or movement, I think.

Posted by: troyriser at September 27, 2013 10:02 AM (gNlvW)

124 They should get the pictures out.The Western(US in particular) media will not show them but smaller outlets will.

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2013 10:02 AM (9XBK2)

125 A good description of Islam from Daniel Greenfield here: http://tinyurl.com/m9uwb79 In short: Islam is a 1400 year old version of the Crips.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 27, 2013 10:02 AM (Tnlh/)

126 Did a tour in Mogadishu and the immediate area back in the day. Been a lot of other places, too. Somalis are the only ones I can say that, as a people, had little to no redeeming qualities -- this crap doesn't surprise me...

Posted by: affenhauer at September 27, 2013 10:02 AM (6Ucyq)

127 Obviously, the jokes on the torturers because Islam forbids violence. signed xxoo the kind of person who believes that Islam is a religion of peace and ignores the last 10+ years of Moosie torture.

Posted by: joeindc44 didn't analyze nuthin, just offered his own anecdotal evidence at September 27, 2013 10:02 AM (QxSug)

128 114 The Crusades!

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2013 10:03 AM (9XBK2)

129 to be fair, all religions treat 'others' the same. I must have missed where the Lutherans sawed the head off of a muzzie. Got the link???

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2013 10:03 AM (ix+5k)

130 the kind of person who believes that Islam is a religion of peace and ignores the last 10+ years of Moosie torture. You misspelled 500.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 27, 2013 10:03 AM (/PCJa)

131 Where I live there is a growing population of muzzies. So seeing hijabs and burkas is a growing phenomenon. Had a burka chick get behind me in the grocery store checkout line the other day. Didn't make me happy. Literally no way to tell if she has a gun or knife or anything. No way to read body language. Impossible to tell if the person is a even a woman, let alone a threat.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 27, 2013 10:03 AM (ZPrif)

132 Something that will sink into a liberal head.

Any ideas?

Posted by: jwest

Exposed rebar.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 27, 2013 10:03 AM (ligos)

133

There are about 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. A think tanks estimate that 10% are jihadist or jihadist sympathizers. That's 106 million terrorists.

My own back of the napkin scientific study, estimates that 90% of the muslim population who are not jihadist or sympathizers are enablers.

Posted by: polynikes at September 27, 2013 10:03 AM (m2CN7)

134 what does one expect from the hurt feelings of some obscure person burning a Quran, or worse making a video telling about some harming other humans while using the Quran as their guide to righteous actions?

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:03 AM (nqBYe)

135 132 Something that will sink into a liberal head. Any ideas? Posted by: jwest Exposed rebar. Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 27, 2013 02:03 PM (ligos) Lead?

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 27, 2013 10:04 AM (6J+oK)

136 because of some obscure*

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:04 AM (nqBYe)

137 >This account is so baroque and impossible I have trouble believing it. But it's hard for me to imagine this is some kind of government propaganda -- because the horrors described tend to show the government in a bad light. <

I've seen the pictures. It ain't propaganda.

Posted by: Marcus at September 27, 2013 10:04 AM (xXyjO)

138 I am so very tired of our betters referring to it as the "Religion of Peace."

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2013 10:04 AM (U6BWX)

139

If you are a Muslim, there is something fundamentally wrong with your head. Doesn't matter if you're a terrorist (yet), doesn't matter if you were born into it and know no other way - your brain has been fundamentally warped away from recognisably human thought patterns.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at September 27, 2013 10:04 AM (YYJjz)

140 Did a tour in Mogadishu and the immediate area back in the day. Been a lot of other places, too. Somalis are the only ones I can say that, as a people, had little to no redeeming qualities -- this crap doesn't surprise me... ***************** Again, one of Clinton's legacies is, after Blackhawk Down, he said "damn, what America needs are a couple million Somalis." Viewing our new Americans, and how dare you judge them, in DC, you can see they're kind of inbred. Pair this up with Gavin McGinnis's theory on Islamic violence and Islamic inbreeding being related.

Posted by: joeindc44 didn't analyze nuthin, just offered his own anecdotal evidence at September 27, 2013 10:04 AM (QxSug)

141 133 Yep.And in the right circumstances,would participate themselves.

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2013 10:04 AM (9XBK2)

142 Exposed rebar. Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 27, 2013 02:03 PM (ligos) I fear it will come to that at some point. Let us hope Obamacare wakes up some of them.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at September 27, 2013 10:04 AM (bb5+k)

143 In short: Islam is a 1400 year old version of the Crips. YES. I had not ever seen the Hagia Sofia, but was at FI and they had an IMAX about earthquakes or something and showed it. I wanted to weep. The Islamics had ripped out the artwork and literally just painted graffiti everywhere. Thousands of years ago. They are just a crappy gang.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 27, 2013 10:04 AM (2up3Q)

144 And has CAIR, ur, I mean WTF denounced this yet?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2013 10:05 AM (U6BWX)

145 Last evening at the gym, a Muzzie in full-Burqa working out, or trying to.
That was one miserable looking, sweaty, uncomfortable Muslima

If she was wearing "full-burqa" you wouldn't have been able to see the misery her face.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burqa

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 27, 2013 10:05 AM (/kI1Q)

146

Our "cedia" won't show the pics on account of graphic images (actually, because it goes against our narrative).

It these guys were teapartiers, the NYSlimes would have the photos splashed all over the front page.

We need to purge our leftard imbeciles, and then the cave men can be dealt with as they should be.

Posted by: maddogg at September 27, 2013 10:05 AM (xWW96)

147 "Muslims are the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain others in the practice of this religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him".- Earnest Renan

Posted by: Aaron Burr at September 27, 2013 10:05 AM (uvVb6)

148 Before we judge, we should all remember that someone may have posted an anti-Muslim video on YouTube and made them do this.

Posted by: MostlyRight at September 27, 2013 10:05 AM (w9AQ4)

149 Rule ~~303~~ 16/50

Posted by: Fox 2! at September 27, 2013 10:05 AM (yiNMf)

150 133 There are about 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. A think tanks estimate that 10% are jihadist or jihadist sympathizers. That's 106 million terrorists. My own back of the napkin scientific study, estimates that 90% of the muslim population who are not jihadist or sympathizers are enablers. Posted by: polynikes at September 27, 2013 02:03 PM (m2CN7) And they are taking over Europe. Can't wait to see Liberal Europeans arguing with them.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at September 27, 2013 10:05 AM (bb5+k)

151 I can't believe this happened, that mall was a gun free zone. signed, xxoo the kind of liberal who thinks that gun free zones are safe or something.

Posted by: joeindc44 didn't analyze nuthin, just offered his own anecdotal evidence at September 27, 2013 10:05 AM (QxSug)

152

You misspelled 500.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 27, 2013 02:03

You misspelled 1400, infidel.

Posted by: Muhammad, the Harry Reid of 600AD at September 27, 2013 10:05 AM (ggRof)

153 to be fair, all religions treat 'others' the same.

I must have missed where the Lutherans sawed the head off of a muzzie. Got the link???

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2013 02:03 PM (ix+5k)

oy, i was being facetious! Repeating what i have read at other sites as excuses!

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:05 AM (nqBYe)

154

It starts with the madrassas that teach their young that negotiating with infidels is like negotiating with people with a bomb strapped to their chest.

glad we don't have people preaching that stuff here.

Posted by: Roy at September 27, 2013 10:06 AM (VndSC)

155 Anyone can go to the website of the Council on American Islamic Relations, otherwise known as CAIR and request a copy of a Koran. They will send you one for free. I was sent one a couple years ago,funny thing, it arrived on September 11.

Posted by: Nanny Hag at September 27, 2013 10:06 AM (39IHH)

156 seriosuly though, I need to scrap together some cash to buy a gun before Md restricts me to a one shot derringer, this is some scary shit.

Posted by: joeindc44 didn't analyze nuthin, just offered his own anecdotal evidence at September 27, 2013 10:06 AM (QxSug)

157 A religion invented in the desert by a despicable nomad and forced upon people under penalty of death has no place in Western Civilization. None.

Posted by: Marcus at September 27, 2013 10:06 AM (xXyjO)

158 Anyone can go to the website of the Council on American Islamic Relations, otherwise known as CAIR and request a copy of a Koran. They will send you one for free. I was sent one a couple years ago,funny thing, it arrived on September 11. They're called "WTF" now.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 27, 2013 10:06 AM (/PCJa)

159 look guys, the Crusades!

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:07 AM (nqBYe)

160 When they yell about the Crusades they never mention how Islam got so widespread in the first place. It wasn't by handing out pamphlets or charity work.

Posted by: brak at September 27, 2013 10:07 AM (iEoiA)

161 You misspelled 500.

By my math, it's over 1300.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 27, 2013 10:08 AM (/kI1Q)

162 see.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:08 AM (nqBYe)

163 Sorry, but fear works. Time to embrace that concept, and enjoy its rewards.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at September 27, 2013 10:08 AM (/lWM8)

164 you know, we may be fucking up the war on terror and Al Qaeda may be back. And there's people who say that Obama abandoned Iraq back to Al Qaeda, but it'll all be worthwhile if we can finally get the House GOP to pass Obama's "100,000 teachers and finally getting the rich to pay some taxes, their fair share really," job bill he ran on in 2012. Also, apparently, gheys are the new moral crusade. So, them too. whatever it is they wan.t

Posted by: joeindc44 didn't analyze nuthin, just offered his own anecdotal evidence at September 27, 2013 10:08 AM (QxSug)

165 The problem is terror works. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Islamic terrorism works and has been working for 1400 years. And our biggest weapon against Islam, the media, has chosen to self-censor. Casual slurs against the insanity, brutality, and evil of Islam used to be common-place.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 27, 2013 10:08 AM (ZPrif)

166 oy, i was being facetious! Repeating what i have read at other sites as excuses! Doh! Mea culpa. Sorry.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2013 10:08 AM (ix+5k)

167

>>I've seen the pictures. It ain't propaganda.

Posted by: Marcus at September 27, 2013 02:04 PM (xXyjO)<<

Where? Please.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at September 27, 2013 10:08 AM (A0sHn)

168 I think Americans should just start carrying your concealed firearms anyway, whether legally or illegally. Unless you're going somewhere where you have to go through a metal detector, no one is ever going to know unless the circumstances require you to draw your weapon, in which case dealing with the law is the least of your worries.

Posted by: CJR at September 27, 2013 01:59 PM (Vqcn4)

I have a carry license and advocate personal carry wherever possible and legal. However, I would never advise someone to carry in a state (or a place) where such carry is illegal. In some states, illegal carry is a felony. Depending on the state, someone caught with a concealed firearm is looking at serious prison time, as well as forfeiture of their right to vote and all of other happy fun consequences that go along with being a convicted felon. So no, dealing with the law is not the least of your worries. The odds of getting arrested for illgally carrying a firearm are far, far greater than the odds of being attacked by a terrorist.

Posted by: troyriser at September 27, 2013 10:09 AM (gNlvW)

169

There is a small brave group of reformers in the Muslim community, they call them dead or disfigured and in hiding Muslims.

Posted by: Beagle at September 27, 2013 10:09 AM (sOtz/)

170 this is to be expected when your response to us coming into your lands killing your villagers is to come into our lands and fight back.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:09 AM (nqBYe)

171 I want a Constitutional Amendment to strip islam of it's status as a religion.

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2013 10:09 AM (9XBK2)

172
And the Inquisition!

Posted by: The MSM at September 27, 2013 01:56 PM (xm1A1)

That was unexpected.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2013 10:10 AM (TIIx5)

173 That was unexpected..... Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2013 02:10 PM (TIIx5) No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 27, 2013 10:11 AM (6J+oK)

174 The beauty of homeschooling: My kids' history text is too kind to Islam. It's not awful, but it paints muhammad as a prophet, not the warlord that he really was. I'll be skipping that chapter and assigning some real history of muhammad in its place.

Posted by: Lauren at September 27, 2013 10:11 AM (ELdpj)

175 First Crusade: 1096.

Battle of Tours, at which Charles Martel turned back the Moorish invaders: 732.

Just presented for informational purposes.

Posted by: joncelli at September 27, 2013 10:11 AM (RD7QR)

176 19 There is something WRONG with Muslims. Posted by: kathysaysso at September 27, 2013 01:47 PM (6H6o

My opinion? Worship of Allah is the enemy's parody to the worship of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. It's no accident that Muhammad (or whoever) told his followers to fight against the "people of the Book": Jews and Christians.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 27, 2013 10:11 AM (Tnlh/)

177 You can't Torquemada anything...

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 27, 2013 10:11 AM (6J+oK)

178 I heard on the radio news this morning that "militants" were preventing aid from getting to the earthquake victims in Pakistan. I didn't even know Ted Cruz knew where Pakistan is.

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 27, 2013 10:11 AM (aJ2Af)

179 this is to be expected when your response to us coming into your lands killing your villagers is to come into our lands and fight back. Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 02:09 PM (nqBYe) You should keep identifying where you're getting these from or people will keep thinking that's you.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 27, 2013 10:12 AM (qyfb5)

180 Quite possibly no such man as Mohammed ever existed.

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2013 10:12 AM (9XBK2)

181 one thing i know for sure, is giving the good muslims (alqaeda and al nusra) weapons to fight back against oppressive leaders is the ticket to peace.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:12 AM (nqBYe)

182 If she was wearing "full-burqa" you wouldn't have been able to see the misery her face. My gym is kitty-corner from a Mosque. I see women outside the gym all the time in full burqa. I don't see them inside much, but I do see lots of dudes in long beards with dead eyes in the gym.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 27, 2013 10:12 AM (yETln)

183 willow, please remember the /sarc tag in future. I almost unleashed flames that would have burned straight to the Earth's core.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 27, 2013 10:12 AM (naUcP)

184 I have a carry license and advocate personal carry wherever possible and legal. However, I would never advise someone to carry in a state (or a place) where such carry is illegal. In some states, illegal carry is a felony. Depending on the state, someone caught with a concealed firearm is looking at serious prison time, as well as forfeiture of their right to vote and all of other happy fun consequences that go along with being a convicted felon. So no, dealing with the law is not the least of your worries. The odds of getting arrested for illgallycarrying a firearm are far, far greater than the odds of being attacked by a terrorist. Posted by: troyriser at September 27, 2013 02:09 PM (gNlvW) I am gradually moving towards the position of advocating that people disobey immoral laws provided they can get away with it. "Law" has lost moral compulsion. Without it, laws command no obedience. The use of force alone is but temporary. It may subdue for a moment; but it does not remove the necessity of subduing again: and a nation is not governed, which is perpetually to be conquered. Edmund Burke---

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at September 27, 2013 10:12 AM (bb5+k)

185

@131

Literally no way to tell if she has a gun or knife or anything. No way to read body language. Impossible to tell if the person is a even a woman, let alone a threat.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 27, 2013 02:03 PM (ZPrif)

-------- --------- ------------ ----------- -------------

This. And yet they get the lowest attention from security everywhere. It's so stupid it could only be true.

Posted by: Beagle at September 27, 2013 10:13 AM (sOtz/)

186 for those that haven't read it I highly recommend "Faith Power and Fantasy: America in the Middle East, 1776 to the Present"

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 27, 2013 10:13 AM (6J+oK)

187 Quite possibly no such man as Mohammed ever existed. I'm sure he did. Sounds just like the left...

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2013 10:13 AM (ix+5k)

188 all I know, is that OBL did good because he built roads and school in afghanistan, something the suicide vest wearing GOP never did. signed, xxoo you know who.

Posted by: joeindc44 didn't analyze nuthin, just offered his own anecdotal evidence at September 27, 2013 10:14 AM (QxSug)

189 Is pogrom a bannable term?

Posted by: Azenogoth at September 27, 2013 10:14 AM (Kh+vp)

190

What Muslims don't want you to know - http://tinyurl.com/gb4tk

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at September 27, 2013 10:15 AM (YYJjz)

191 You should keep identifying where you're getting these from or people will keep thinking that's you.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 27, 2013 02:12 PM (qyfb5)

o hell these were the type of comments i read back in the aol hell days AFTER the dems voted unanimously but wanted to fk Booosh up to win 2004 after we went into iraq.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:15 AM (nqBYe)

192 Well, sure they're terrorists and everything. But, at least they're not big poopy heads like Ted Cruz.

Posted by: Pragmatic Republican at September 27, 2013 10:15 AM (TCWb5)

193 willow, isn't that going to be hillary 2016's byline? "as sec state, I helped arm Muslim Brotherhood to fight against moderate heads of state and crowds practicing civil disobedience." win!

Posted by: joeindc44 didn't analyze nuthin, just offered his own anecdotal evidence at September 27, 2013 10:15 AM (QxSug)

194 ""The problem is terror works. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Islamic terrorism works and has been working for 1400 years.""

Only because we haven't played cowboys and muslims yet. Seriously, the only thing that keeps that religion and its worshiping turds alive are the effeminate douchebags that lead the west.

Posted by: Berserker at September 27, 2013 10:15 AM (FMbng)

195 158 Anyone can go to the website of the Council on American Islamic Relations, otherwise known as CAIR and request a copy of a Koran. They will send you one for free. I was sent one a couple years ago,funny thing, it arrived on September 11. They're called "WTF" now. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 27, 2013 02:06 PM (/PCJa) Yes, they are!

Posted by: baldilocks at September 27, 2013 10:16 AM (Tnlh/)

196 109 We can't really call cutting off fingers and noses "torture" anymore.

That word is for waterboarding.

We've got find a different word that denotes actual brutal, permanent harm. Something that will sink into a liberal head.

Any ideas?

Posted by: jwest at September 27, 2013 02:00 PM (u2a4R)

It was an ecstatic frenzy. Butchering and dismemberment mania.

Posted by: Phinn at September 27, 2013 10:16 AM (oFH2D)

197

I think I have it now. Feel free to correct me.

Niqab covers the entire face but the eyes.

Hijab covers the hair.

Burqa is the full body and face cover.

Abaya is like a Burqa but with the face or eyes uncovered.

Either one of the last two is good enough to conceal a couple anti-tank weapons.

Posted by: Beagle at September 27, 2013 10:16 AM (sOtz/)

198 effeminate douchebags that lead the west.

Posted by: Berserker at September 27, 2013 02:15 PM (FMbng)

And those effeminate douchebags are the ones with the money and influence. It's a cruel cosmic joke is what it is.

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at September 27, 2013 10:17 AM (p7BzH)

199 Brother Cavil, apologies.

i guess my angry satire is flopping, you are not the only one that thought i might be a creep. i thought everyone knew me better.

kicks my own ass (so you don't have to)

anyway apologies to all.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:17 AM (nqBYe)

200 Only because we haven't played cowboys and muslims yet. Seriously, the only thing that keeps that religion and its worshiping turds alive are the effeminate douchebags that lead the west. That and EBT cards. Cut off the food & bennies.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2013 10:17 AM (ix+5k)

201 198 I think I have it now. Feel free to correct me. Niqab covers the entire face but the eyes. Hijab covers the hair. Burqa is the full body and face cover. Abaya is like a Burqa but with the face or eyes uncovered. Either one of the last two is good enough to conceal a couple anti-tank weapons. Posted by: Beagle at September 27, 2013 02:16 PM (sOtz/) and the proper term for what the men in the middle east wear is "man dress"

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 27, 2013 10:18 AM (6J+oK)

202 Burqa is the full body and face cover. aka, Hag in a bag.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2013 10:18 AM (ix+5k)

203 I remember on early on 9/11 before the towers fell, an ex-marine at one point just jumped up and said "We need to just Kill all Fucking Muslims." I, at the time much more ignorant, argued that we couldn't condemn the whole religion because of a few attacks. "Nits make lice!" he retorted. I've come a long way, in no small part in Islam's unceasing quest to disabuse me of my earlier reticence to cast wide blame. The last time I had a discussion w/ my Quaker father about his religion's defense of Islam, and him telling me about so many Muslims he'd met who were nice, I told him the same thing. Nits make lice. I told him that if the shit ever hits the fan in this country, (meaning collapse of order approaching or including anarchy) the smart money will be to never allow a live Muslim anywhere near you. "I'll never err on that side of the equation," I told him. "Never." "What are you saying?" he asks. "I'm saying I'll accept their terms of warfare, and put a bullet in the heads of their entire family first and worry about self-recrimination later. So if they are serious in their moderation, you best tell them to get some skin in the game now, before the choice is out of their hands." I'm just be playing the odds in a world where all it takes is being wrong once, and then your whole family is dead. The qualifier here is WTSHTF. Until then, I abide by the laws and remain as vigilant and armed as I possibly can be at all times. I'm ok with being a bigot in the eyes of my self-proclaimed moral betters, so long as my so-called bigotry keep me and mine alive. In the end, it is a value judgment. And I see a wide chasm in value between a 7th century religion (whose only reformation that took hold occurred 30ish years ago in the form of Wahabbism, itself a call to return to all the glory of 7th century barbarism), and modern Western civilization. Unfortunately, in our post-modern excess, Western civilization has by and large failed to accept that 'what Islam tells us' and 'what Islam does' are two terribly divergent things. We have the nummy fantasy of embracing a Religion of Peace. And we have hard work of fighting for our lives against a Religion of Terror, Turture, Murder and Rape. If we continue making excuses for those who do such things, in the end, when our backs are truly against the wall, we lose all options except for the very worst ones. At that point, you can bet your ass that almost everyone in Western Civilization, what is left of it, will all at least be thinking the same thing. Nits make lice.

Posted by: krakatoa at September 27, 2013 10:19 AM (eCtnP)

204 merorvign, some of these are responses were more current from twitter jihadists after the kenya attack

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:20 AM (nqBYe)

205 i would put their accts here, but i dunno.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:20 AM (nqBYe)

206 i guess my angry satire is flopping, you are not the only one that thought i might be a creep. i thought everyone knew me better. We do willow. It became apparent after the first one or two.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2013 10:21 AM (ix+5k)

207 Any Marine that pisses on the carcass of those worthless pieces of shit should receive a medal for going "above and beyond" the call of duty instead of getting a reprimand.

Posted by: jwb7605 [i](L.I.B.)[/i][/u][/b] at September 27, 2013 10:21 AM (Qxe/p)

208 Gee, I don't get why everyone is dumping on the Muslims. There's nothing about Muslims in the linked article, or any article I've read. Nothing about Islam or Muslims. So, back off, everybody! Nothing about Muslims to see here... Move on, already.

Posted by: Chef Mojo at September 27, 2013 10:22 AM (S+kVz)

209 merovign, some of these are responses were more current from twitter jihadists after the kenya attack Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 02:20 PM (nqBYe) The world is just full of Flffy McMurderNutters, ain't it?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 27, 2013 10:24 AM (qyfb5)

210 Ahhh Islam The shit stain on Earth you can see from the moon.

Posted by: Melodicmetal at September 27, 2013 10:24 AM (QY9FJ)

211

https://twitter.com/kamau_muhamad

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:24 AM (nqBYe)

212 merovign, unfortunately yes.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2013 10:24 AM (nqBYe)

213 208 Any Marine that pisses on the carcass of those worthless pieces of shit should receive a medal for going "above and beyond" the call of duty instead of getting a reprimand. Posted by: jwb7605 (L.I.B.) at September 27, 2013 02:21 PM (Qxe/p) On a bright note, USMC Dropped the charges on the Marine who relieved himself on a dead Taliban.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 27, 2013 10:25 AM (Tnlh/)

214 Nits make lice. Posted by: krakatoa at September 27, 2013 02:19 PM (eCtnP) Very few understand this without having served in combat. during my time in the Marine Corps I saw both the best and worst of humanity. borrowing a line from the healthcare debate, prevention saves lives. Since we lack the leadership to cut out the cancer at it's source preparation is a close second. practice with your firearm as much as you can afford, strong hand / weak hand / dominant eye / non dominant eye, etc. become one with the weapon so it is an extension of your being. When the time comes my family and I will survive and thrive.

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 27, 2013 10:26 AM (6J+oK)

215 Ahhh Islam

The shit stain on Earth you can see from the moon.

Posted by: Melodicmetal at September 27, 2013 02:24 PM (QY9FJ)

Fuuuuuck thats some funny shit. I'm sooo stealing that. lol

Posted by: Berserker at September 27, 2013 10:26 AM (FMbng)

216 On a bright note, USMC Dropped the charges on the Marine who relieved himself on a dead Taliban. Posted by: baldilocks at September 27, 2013 02:25 PM (Tnlh/) as it should be. my issue is with the asshole that recorded the act.

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 27, 2013 10:27 AM (6J+oK)

217 There should come a time when no jihad apologist can express that opinion without becoming a hunted man (or woman).

Posted by: William Wallace at September 27, 2013 10:27 AM (Fyzha)

218 On a bright note, USMC Dropped the charges on the Marine who relieved himself on a dead Taliban. Posted by: baldilocks at September 27, 2013 02:25 PM (Tnlh/) Not really. They dropped the charges on the Commanding Officer, who wasn't there in the first place. The guys that actually did it were reduced in rate (rank?). One of them says he'd still do it again.

Posted by: jwb7605 [i](L.I.B.)[/i][/u][/b] at September 27, 2013 10:28 AM (Qxe/p)

219

Posted by: William Wallace at September 27, 2013 02:27 PM (Fyzha)

didn't you make a belt out of someone?

Posted by: Sid at September 27, 2013 10:29 AM (W6iIX)

220 [begin Cliche] long time reader...first time poster [end cliche] Maybe it's blasphemy to say it, but the Russians are smarter than we are on this. They've been fighting Islamic fanatics for over 1000 years. The governments may have changed, but the threat from Islamic radicalism never went away. I'm not advocating brutal repression, but isnt it fair to ask on retrospect whether the Soviets had it right in Afghanistan. We probably backed the wrong side because of our single-minded focus on the Cold War. I have no doubt that the Russians would admit now that their support of Khomeini at the time over the Sha was a mistake, also motivated by the Cold War. Don't get me wrong, we were right to fight and win the Cold War. But, we are really only capable of focusing on one such fight at a time. We didn't focus sufficiently on the threat of radical Islamists until recently. The Russians/Soviets couldn't help but focus on it, because it is their back yard. When Putin tells us that the Syrian rebels are far more dangerous than Asad, we should sit up and listen. We don't need to believe everything he says, but there is no reason to believe that the Russians are any less dedicated to fighting Islamic extremists than we are. In fact, as indicated above, there is more than ample evidence to suggest that they are far MORE dedicated to it than us.

Posted by: Czar Peter at September 27, 2013 10:29 AM (iqIZM)

221 @baldilocks On a bright note, USMC Dropped the charges on the Marine who relieved himself on a dead Taliban. He wasn't one of the Taliban pissers, but their Captain. He was ignorant of the whole thing until it came to light. He's still up for admin hearing to determine whether or not he'll be discharged from the Corps for dereliction. He's ruined.

Posted by: Chef Mojo at September 27, 2013 10:29 AM (S+kVz)

222 I may have gotten that USMC story wrong. Here, see for yourself: http://tinyurl.com/msfoza3

Posted by: baldilocks at September 27, 2013 10:29 AM (Tnlh/)

223 Thanks for the correction, peeps.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 27, 2013 10:30 AM (Tnlh/)

224 What is the file that my computer keeps blocking every time I refresh?

Posted by: Sid at September 27, 2013 10:31 AM (W6iIX)

225

This is nothing new.... and in fact.... has been the way warfare has been fought through most of Human History.

Someday, the West will remember this.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 27, 2013 10:32 AM (lZBBB)

226 What is the file that my computer keeps blocking every time I refresh?

It's the sitemeter that is doing something behind the scenes. It gets out of control sometimes.

Posted by: EC at September 27, 2013 10:32 AM (GQ8sn)

227 Don't understand all the hubbub. This is a local crime story.

Posted by: Associate Press at September 27, 2013 10:33 AM (9zIEr)

228 Maybe it's blasphemy to say it, but the Russians are smarter than we are on this.

Yes they are. They recognize the danger for what it is.

We've been deluded into thinking we can coexist peacefully with them.

One side is right.

Posted by: EC at September 27, 2013 10:34 AM (GQ8sn)

229 Maybe it's blasphemy to say it, but the Russians are smarter than we are on this. They've been fighting Islamic fanatics for over 1000 years. One of the things about Russia forgotten these days is that they saw themselves as the "third Rome", successor to Byzantium as keepers of civilization and Christendom. Of course they tended to go about this rather...roughly. But it got results. Thinking I might want to learn Russian. And get a dash-cam for my car.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 27, 2013 10:35 AM (naUcP)

230 @baldilocks, I am convinced Islam is a demon-inspired bastardizing of Judaism and Christianity. Just the MoMo the Pedro's biography on the bizarre fits he went into when the Quran was dictated to him, by a very twisted version of the Archangel Gabriel is pretty freaky. But when you look at what it actually says, there is just enough in the way of tidbits of truth to reel you in before twisting it into something evil. Heck, their version of heaven is a place of extreme hedonism instead. The whole thing is spawn of Satan, IMO. Maybe that sounds crazy but it is my impression after reading about the crazy prophet's/warlord's life and the book itself.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at September 27, 2013 10:36 AM (qFpRI)

231 Thinking I might want to learn Russian. And get a dash-cam for my car.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 27, 2013 02:35 PM (naUcP)

Ukranian chicks FTW.

Posted by: EC at September 27, 2013 10:36 AM (GQ8sn)

232 It makes sense to doubt the stories, even people at the scene who "know" will hear of someone else who saw something and tell someone who tells someone and we know how stories morph, even when there is no intent to lie about it... however, we also all know that this level of evil exists in the world. I should probably not admit that I haven't been following this (life takes more of my time lately) as there is nothing any of us could do BUT am I right in understanding that the terrorists were inside the mall for four days? Can I assume they are now all dead? That changes things rather a lot. Mass-murder *suicide* is almost always gauged for the highest atrocity quotient possible. No matter if it's just some crazy shooting up a school or if it's someone with a "political" cause... if you intend to DIE the target is going to be chosen for max atrocity. After all, you want to make your death worth it, right? The strongest possible message of terror and intimidation (or the crazy wanting to get back at society)... there is one chance to have the biggest terror impact possible. It's VERY likely that the stories are true if these people were in control for four days. Max terror, max atrocity, to get max impact from a planned suicide.

Posted by: Synova at September 27, 2013 10:39 AM (7/PU+)

233

I have a muslim friend at the gym of the Persian persuasion if I'm not mistaken. American as apple pie in that he is a huge Texans and sports fan, gambler, etc. That said he does observe Ramadan and I can catch a hint of the muslim in him when we discuss the girls in the gym. Yes ladies , we do oogle and talk about you when you decide to venture into the free weight area.

He's got that good girl / dirty girl contradiction going on. Creeps me out because I know its directly from his muslim upbringing.

Posted by: polynikes at September 27, 2013 10:41 AM (m2CN7)

234 Ukranian chicks FTW. Posted by: EC at September 27, 2013 02:36 PM (GQ8sn) Chicks from Chernobyl are hot...

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 27, 2013 10:43 AM (6J+oK)

235 @brother cavil I have a friend who is Greek. He has been telling me for years that Islam and the West can never co-exist. He believes that the European democracies, probably Germany first, will eventually wise up and that there will be widespread sectarian war as the Christians, secularists and Jews try to force the Muslims out of Europe. He also says that our (US) freedom, generosity and kindness as a nation are our weakness and that they will eventually brong about our destruction becuasr they will preclude is from ever dojng what needs to be done. I'm not sure I agree, but it is an interesting perspective.

Posted by: Czar Peter at September 27, 2013 10:43 AM (iqIZM)

236 Has the Obama regime used the word terrorists or is that only for republicans?

Posted by: Jukin at September 27, 2013 10:48 AM (WGm5T)

237 But when you look at what [the Koran] actually says, there is just enough in the way of tidbits of truth to reel you in before twisting it into something evil. Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at September 27, 2013 02:36 PM (qFpRI) When Satan tempted Jesus, he did it by using tidbits of what we now call the Old Testament, and cutting out the pertinent parts. He twisted it. Someone in the present day does that a lot also.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 27, 2013 10:49 AM (Tnlh/)

238 And the liberal shits here in Massachusetts are still worried about "fundamentalist Christians." Even after the Marathon massacre, even after 9/11, liberal shits would rather gouge out their own eyes than see Muslim atrocities. Islam is a death cult. Liberalism is a suicide cult.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 27, 2013 10:49 AM (0ZEHk)

239 This is just pushback for years of colonialism and imperialistic cultural hegemony. Posted by: college professors at September 27, 2013 02:01 PM (iEoiA) ********************* Problem is, we didn't colonize Somalia -- but our government is doing everything it can to help Somalia colonize us!

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at September 27, 2013 10:51 AM (/sohm)

240 Someone in the present day does that a lot also. Posted by: baldilocks at September 27, 2013 02:49 PM (Tnlh/) **************** Yep, and he's a disciple and student of Lucifer (and his acolytes, especially one Saul Alinsky), whose initials are BHO.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at September 27, 2013 10:53 AM (/sohm)

241 I am a child of immigrants, and as a result , my family has sponsored many people from Russia, the Ukraine and Poland. The disgust all of these people feel for chezknians is palpable. They describe them as animals, and yet, when a few of these people arrive in America, they seem rough themselves! From what I have seen, Russians and Ukraines have little respect for Muslims.

Posted by: Chilling the most at September 27, 2013 10:55 AM (Rn9xc)

242 But, But, the republican war on women!

Posted by: Hilary's mighty ankles at September 27, 2013 10:56 AM (csnnJ)

243 Beslan- same behaviour

Mumbai- same behaviour

Iraq- multiple torture chambers discovered as islamists are pushed out of areas

If those who are not "terrorists" are willing to cut of the heads of their daughters for "honor" and throw acid in the face of their neighbor, chase girls who are insufficiently covered back into burning buildings what do we expect from their extremes?

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 27, 2013 10:56 AM (URNUb)

244 But, but, but... W repeatedly told us that it's a religion of peace! Barry told me that we're starting a new cultural dialogue! This is all lies!

Posted by: Chuck at September 27, 2013 10:57 AM (bpSFK)

245
I have long been a fan of killing terrorists as you find them.

At some point, the law of supply and demand kicks in.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 27, 2013 10:59 AM (SAMxH)

246 If the liberals don't know or won't believe it happened, it didn't happen. And they control the schools, the media, the music industry, Hollywood, and most of Government. So virtually no one will know or believe it happened.

But Abu Ghraib and waterboarding -- now THERE'S torture.

Posted by: Izzy Metric at September 27, 2013 11:02 AM (zKoYE)

247 Yet another Islamic contribution to world culture. Cue the leftist apologetics. If Beslan wasn't enough to wake people up to reality, this won't be either. At this this point I pretty much just picture the West as the proverbial frog boiling in the pot of water.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at September 27, 2013 11:03 AM (Z0/+C)

248 Ace, I would hope and pray it's a level of propaganda going on. But it would be tribal propaganda, not government.

Posted by: PJ at September 27, 2013 11:06 AM (ZWaLo)

249
At that point, you can bet your ass that almost everyone in Western Civilization, what is left of it, will all at least be thinking the same thing.

Nits make lice.

Nah.

At that point, I'll be thinking

Crush your enemies
See them driven before you
Hear the lamentation of their women.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at September 27, 2013 11:13 AM (BDH94)

250 This incident reports exactly what to expect from Bankster-Corporatist-CIA American sponsorship in league with Sunnis: terrorism, regardless of gang name, ethnicity, nation identity. It is what it is. Not humane, no logic, the most perverse and sadistic people/fundamentalism, seeking to rule the world, using the USA as their own bitch: Global Sunni Caliphate, aka Wahhabi/Saudi fiends from hell. Are these monsters your bitch? Of course we reject out of hand any personal association. But really, how is Wahhabi terrorism working on my personal behalf? Not. Only on behalf of the Sunni Global Caliphate with the House of Saud. Any American non-Sunni who has been there has the same experience. You must stfu and obey the strictest of behavioral expectations as a dhimmi. Or you will suffer SEVERE pain, torture and possibly death. Evil. Period. Proud Americans maintain the illusion that our interventionist war policy could ever make Real a good intention: to teach Islamists democracy by spreading good will (by conducting US tax funded and Military operational sponsorship spreading terrorism and chaos, destroying what civilizations exist in order to facilitate authoritarian global corporate profits and monopoly on natural resources). Discomfort with reality spurs an unwillingness to critically study our past century. That belligerence does keep us staying stuck on stupid, denying the discomforting overall scenario, refusing to admit what our tax funds and our men/women are being spent to enable (global corporatist authoritarians bankrupting Americans and RUINING the USA so that there is no safe haven in the world for Liberty). It is not by choice or intent from thoughtful Americans that we are forced by our politicians' policy and governmental agencies to foment global chaos which enables Wahhabi Sunni jihad on EVERYONE. Everyone includes us. Just as "everything" [Assad's reference] has no limits, no boundaries when Sunni terrorism spreads everywhere. We must not forfeit our liberties and our Constitution. And we can not defend our liberties and our Constitution by destroying our liberties and our Constitution. No matter how many politicians claim to "save their principles by abandoning their principles," that's still hell. People who claim that a society can "rebuild" only after everyone dies, to welcome more corruption and cruelty and torturous death, because that's the only way we can start over? Read Jonah/Nineveh. The people saw where they'd gone wrong, and changed course to obey their culture's rule of law. [Unlike Sodom.] Open your eyes. The people being exterminated are the ones who "deserve" to stay alive, decent people who believe in the Golden Rule, regardless of ethnicity or creed. Indigenous Christians are being exterminated by SUNNI jihadists enabled by our taxes, US Policy and Interventionist Wars, from Lebanon, Dafur through the "spring" to Egypt. Indigenous exiled Jews emigrated to Israel. Buddhists and Hindi face Sunni terrorism throughout Central Asia and the Far East, an instantaneous nuclear threat, the war already begun in Kashmir! [Thank God for India on that front.] Meanwhile, the Sunni terrorist groups are sponsored by our taxes and trained as if "allies" by CIA operatives, arming and training the worst monsters imaginable. Their work launches green on blue terrorism on our troops abroad, coordinating armaments of organized crime in Mexico, and not absent events in America against US law enforcement and against civilians in no-gun-zones. The status quo is Lose Lose so far as Americans and our Constitutional Republic are concerned. The same politicians mandating interventionist wars are conducting domestic war of terror against US citizenry stateside. Inalienable rights? Bill of Rights? Separated and limited government powers designated to serve the People and protect Liberty? The oil would still be there even were the entire world to unload all nuclear weapons on Saudi Arabia. Surgical Precision. THAT was the only way the US could have ended the UN Korean War before it started (MacArthur), wasting so many American lives and taxes, and was the very threat that Ike promised to deliver the Norks and Chicoms if they didn't sign the cease fire and end hostilities.

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 27, 2013 11:17 AM (MhA4j)

251 No doubt moderates will line up to tell us kaffirs how we are misunderstanding Islam and that there fellow Islamic compatriots/terrorists don't represent the Religion of Peace (TM).

The one thing moderates won't actually do is confront these monsters themselves and tell THEM that they have it wrong. You know, the people who actually need to hear this.

Posted by: RAB at September 27, 2013 11:20 AM (8ldvV)

252 Problem is, we didn't colonize Somalia -- but our government is doing everything it can to help Somalia colonize us! Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at September 27, 2013 02:51 PM (/sohm) WWI Britain redrawing the world map to suit itself, with allied (US) assent. Jubaland split; North became Somalia under Italian domain; South became the NE Province of Kenya under British domain.

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 27, 2013 11:25 AM (MhA4j)

253 Buncha racist Islamaphobic misunderstanders of a mostly peaceful religion here. It's not like these honorable militants offered to 'pray for their victims souls' or told them they couldn't have an abortion, or read bible verses at them or anything horrible like that. Now that's torture.

Posted by: The Almighty Bronco Bama at September 27, 2013 11:29 AM (1I4sj)

254 I'll tell you what I'm gonna do about this evil atrocity. I will bravely set up a series of straw man arguments, and bash them to bits, like THIS, and pound them, like THAT, take them in my teeth and rip them apart like SO!!11!! That'll show those evil, terrorists that are attacking my BroncoBamaCare!

Posted by: The Almighty Bronco Bama at September 27, 2013 11:34 AM (1I4sj)

255 The House of Saud allied with the Wahhabi Sunni leader in their own interventionist wars of aggression, conquering war lords and permeating that region of the Ottoman Empire, weakening. British Intelligence funded and allied with The Muslim Brotherhood in WWI. Remember that the last Ottoman Caliph had already reformed his Empire. Regardless of caste, ethnicity or religion, everyone was granted equality and the right to purchase/own property and pay the same grade of taxation. No more "second class" citizens. What the over extended British Empire sponsored was the decimation of modern society throughout what was the Ottoman Empire. The British launched the Muslim Brotherhood on the world, benefiting banksters, the City of London Corporation. And of course, though their elitists would pride themselves as "the best" at whatever cloak and dagger, though possibly the first, the Brits are not the only ones in the global corporatist game of conquest for power to abuse. "Because I Could"

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 27, 2013 11:38 AM (MhA4j)

256 You know ACE I was thinking the jihad/lefty blood lust has worked itself into a frothy lather in hopes of committing such an act in a US shopping mall.

Posted by: Regular Guy at September 27, 2013 12:05 PM (N3Al8)

257 Pics from inside: http://tinyurl.com/oq3gzgh

Posted by: Jaihawkk at September 27, 2013 12:27 PM (iocin)

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