December 18, 2013

Nancy Pelosi: No One Should Be Deported Just Because They're In the Country Illegally
— Ace

Mark Krikorian says she hereby pronounces the end of immigration law altogether.

Her statement means that she -- and the Democrats, as she is their ranking House member -- believes that no one should be deported "just" for breaking immigration laws. Deportation can only happen, in Pelosi's view, in cases of violating immigration laws plus breaking what she might term a "real" law.

Nancy Pelosi recently told Telemundo (Spanish broadcast here) that violations of immigration law should no longer have any consequences:

“Our view of the law is that it — if somebody is here without sufficient documentation, that is not reason for deportation.”

This wasn’t just a verbal flub; her spokesman reiterated the point, saying her comment was merely “a restatement of her long-held belief that being an undocumented immigrant is not a basis for deportation.”

Nor can you write this off as just another moronic comment from the lightweight House minority leader. Rather, it’s simply an explicit articulation of the policy the Obama administration has been pursuing for five years, namely of making immigration violation a “secondary offense.” As an example of the concept, failing to wear a seatbelt is a secondary offense in many states, meaning that you can’t be pulled over by a state trooper for not wearing a seatbelt, but you can receive an additional fine if you’ve already been pulled over for a primary offense (speeding, for instance).

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The implications are huge, and not limited to the tenure of this administration, since this is now the consensus Democratic party position. It means the substance of immigration legislation is irrelevant; John Boehner and Paul Ryan can stuff a million enforcement provisions into an amnesty bill and itÂ’s all just for show if being an illegal alien is no longer a reason to be removed from the country.

Indeed. So long as you get here, and do not commit a crime the Democrats consider deportation-worthy, you can stay.

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1 No. That's the exact reason why they should be deported, Nancy.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 11:06 AM (Mc0U3)

2 Wish we could deport her

Posted by: Navypopojoe at December 18, 2013 11:06 AM (08XBV)

3 We are through the looking glass here, people.

Posted by: irright at December 18, 2013 11:07 AM (Ze8oh)

4 On the positive side, now these illegals aliens can become artists and musicians... thanks, Obamacare!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 18, 2013 11:07 AM (Mc0U3)

5 I look forward to a similar nuance when I refuse to pay my taxes. “Our view of the law is that it — if somebody does not pay sufficient dollars, that is not reason for prosecution.”

Posted by: TenthJustice at December 18, 2013 11:08 AM (qB8lN)

6 If laws are irrelevant, now, why does she exist?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 18, 2013 11:08 AM (IXrOn)

7 I wish I could believe the real position of the GOP was anything different.

Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2013 11:08 AM (hO9ad)

8 People should be deported for voting Republican!

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 18, 2013 11:08 AM (3ZtZW)

9 "Her spokesman reiterated the point, saying her comment was merely 'a restatement of Democrats' long-held belief that laws are to be enforced or ignored depending on the current political need of Democrats.'"

Posted by: Red Stick Ryan at December 18, 2013 11:08 AM (vQTNc)

10 All I know is that the moron who posted that 40 million years was equal to 1.5 Pelosi units had me laughing for the last few days.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 18, 2013 11:08 AM (FMbng)

11 *ragetwitches on floor* If we are now officially post law as a nation, I'mma go get me a Ferrari tonight. What's that? Grand theft auto? Pfffft merely taking possession of something without payment isn't a crime crime.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2013 11:08 AM (VtjlW)

12 Which is why a GOP that passes amnesty should be allowed to wither. What body of law do we get to ignore?

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 11:08 AM (9jfyN)

13 Hi morons. I'm here to wear pajamas, drink hot chocolate and talk health insurance. And I'm all out of hot chocolate.... and pajamas.

Posted by: Roddy Piper at December 18, 2013 11:09 AM (ps27A)

14 Sure. We don't need to bother with enforcing those pesky laws 'n stuff.

Didn't some guy in front of congress make the statement that if the people see gov't disobeying the law long enough that the public will decide they don't have to obey the law either?

Yeah that.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 11:09 AM (LSDdO)

15 in other words, lawlessness only counts when our Betters say so.

Posted by: Mallfly at December 18, 2013 11:09 AM (bJm7W)

16 Nobody should be arrested for mugging this stupid scrunt.  After all, if we are going to ignore the laws why not the ones she likes.



And as long as the Democrats like to ignore the Constitution, how about the next time we get Republicans in control we make it a felony to be a Democrat or vote for a Democrat.


The point is here that you do not get to pick and choose which laws to obey.  That way leads to anarchy and chaos.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 18, 2013 11:09 AM (T2V/1)

17 Wish we could deport her Posted by: Navypopojoe at December 18, 2013 03:06 PM (08XBV) Pretty sure we haven't reached that part of the galaxy yet. I guess we could send her back to her "second" home.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 18, 2013 11:09 AM (IXrOn)

18 SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

Illegal residency is now functionally identical to having a green card?  Interesting.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2013 11:09 AM (8ZskC)

19 Sure. Why not?

Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2013 11:09 AM (T0NGe)

20 8 Bigby's Knuckle Sammich, I'm game Bigby...

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 11:09 AM (9jfyN)

21 Nancy Pelosi recently told Telemundo (Spanish broadcast here) that violations of immigration law should no longer have any consequences: Neither should hunting.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2013 11:09 AM (qc7at)

22 B-b-but, the liberal media (but I repeat myself) has been telling me over and over that Obama has deported more illegals than any other President, including that war-criminal Chimpy McBusHitler. What gives?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 18, 2013 11:10 AM (7ObY1)

23 Bullshit bullshit bullshit.  Wrong.

Posted by: huerfano at December 18, 2013 11:10 AM (bAGA/)

24 JT Marlin upgrades Amalgamated Tar, Feather and Rail to STRONG BUY

Posted by: JT Marlin at December 18, 2013 11:10 AM (8ZskC)

25 And there it is, all wrapped up with a bow on it.

Democrats public policy is that a crime is not a crime unless it's really crimey.

The phrase "It's not like rape rape" suddenly makes sense in this context.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2013 11:11 AM (teMpq)

26 If laws are irrelevant, now, why does she exist?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 18, 2013 03:08 PM (IXrOn)


Accident of natural law?

Posted by: Retread at December 18, 2013 11:11 AM (G+w7R)

27
Ya know Nancy, you of the underpaid illegal aliens, uh,,,, undocumented immigrants, working at your fancy vineyard probably do think that is good policy.  Except that you keep voting for the rest of us to house them, feed them, give them medical care and a nice retirement.

F you.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2013 11:11 AM (MaP11)

28 Some laws are more equal than others, comrade.  Comprende?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 18, 2013 11:11 AM (b2cFu)

29 What about no one should be aborted just because they're in the uterus against the desire of a wanton harlet?

Posted by: Fritz at December 18, 2013 11:11 AM (UzPAd)

30 So Amnesty, then. And a green light for everyone in Mexico to come on over.

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2013 11:11 AM (hFL/3)

31 How's that "enforce existing law" strategy working out?

Posted by: jwest at December 18, 2013 11:11 AM (u2a4R)

32 This position effectively means anyone who can sneak into the country can stay here indefinitely until/unless they're convicted of a different criminal offense.

It basically removes one of the ONLY deterrents discouraging illegal immigration.

If you want to say, that as a matter of enforcement reality, that the Federal gov't isn't really interested in chasing down illegal aliens and deporting them, that's one thing. . .and its effectively BEEN US immigration policy for decades.

But if you're going to forestall ANY possibility of deportation, then effectively there is no such thing as an "illegal alien" anymore.  Might as well just open up the borders, because anyone who can sneak in will get to stay.

Posted by: looking closely at December 18, 2013 11:11 AM (6Q9g2)

33 america's vichy party at work

Posted by: oeJay44incday at December 18, 2013 11:12 AM (QxSug)

34 Which is why a GOP that passes amnesty should be allowed to wither.


The GOP is the party of naive saps.  They won't get another dime from me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2013 11:12 AM (8ZskC)

35

The implications are huge, and not limited to the tenure of this administration, since this is now the consensus Democratic party position. It means the substance of immigration legislation is irrelevant; John Boehner and Paul Ryan can stuff a million enforcement provisions into an amnesty bill and itÂ’s all just for show if being an illegal alien is no longer a reason to be removed from the country.

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This.

In addition, since we know the government bureaucracy, top to bottom, leans left, that even with a Republican in office, the "no deportation" policy will continue.

 

 

Posted by: WisRich at December 18, 2013 11:12 AM (hdpay)

36 Illegal residency is now functionally identical to having a green card? Interesting.

I suspect that's going to depend a lot on which foreign nation the illegally-resident foreign national came in from.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 18, 2013 11:12 AM (ZKzrr)

37

>>>I'm game Bigby...

 

*BaNg!*

/tags and stuffs sven in a bag

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 18, 2013 11:12 AM (3ZtZW)

38 I'd like to punt that cunt into the next county...

Posted by: john boner at December 18, 2013 11:12 AM (P9kUH)

39 Nancy Pelosi: No One Should Be Deported Just Because They're In the Country IllegallyI'll bet she wouldn't have a problem deporting Tea Partiers. Boehner would probably go for it too. Where would they send them?

Posted by: zmdavid at December 18, 2013 11:12 AM (KwfID)

40 Once they're here they can't just be let alone to starve to death on the streets, so basically the left just announced the end of this sovereign country.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 18, 2013 11:13 AM (3zCY5)

41 Technically, it's not illegal, to be illegal.

Posted by: "Marcia" Coakley (D), MA Attorney General at December 18, 2013 11:13 AM (LDsJ6)

42 What about no one should be aborted just because they're in the uterus against the desire of a wanton harlet?

Oooooh.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 18, 2013 11:13 AM (ZKzrr)

43 Obviously we can strike an immigration bargain in good faith with these people, right?

Posted by: spongeworthy at December 18, 2013 11:14 AM (r5w1L)

44 The GOP should do ads in various countries (of choice; sans Mexico) of Pelosi saying this. Let's bring 'em all in!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 18, 2013 11:14 AM (IXrOn)

45 I look forward to a similar nuance when I refuse to pay my taxes.

That'd be an interesting question to pose to Madame Skeletor, since every illegal is guilty of that as well.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 18, 2013 11:14 AM (8b2sh)

46 that revolutionary war guy was wrong, democracy won't end when we start voting ourselves money, it ends when one party looks to the third world to import enough new voters to obviate the old voter's wishes.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at December 18, 2013 11:14 AM (QxSug)

47 31 JWest,, Just fine ese....how's the subsidy lotto going?

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 11:14 AM (9jfyN)

48 I suspect that's going to depend a lot on which foreign nation the illegally-resident foreign national came in from.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 18, 2013 03:12 PM (ZKzrr)

 

And whether or not they want to home school their children.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:14 AM (4df7R)

49 But keep paying into those un-insured motorist pools, plebes.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 18, 2013 11:14 AM (Mc0U3)

50 What is national sovereignty again?

But OK, let's follow this line of thinking a little further down the road.
First, let's abolish ICE.

And forget about checking imported goods for illegal items and undesirable plants and animals - open borders for all, even them nasty tigerfish.

Also, let's abolish import tariffs, because if there's no border then by what standing can we charge an entry fee, because, entering what?
And so on.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2013 11:15 AM (ruxvM)

51

What about no one should be aborted just because they're in the uterus against the desire of a wanton harlet?

 

I LIKE THIS.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:15 AM (4df7R)

52 or...the dickless GOP that refused to make hay about the DNC's ties to La Raza and la casa

Posted by: oeJay44incday at December 18, 2013 11:15 AM (QxSug)

53 Laws. HUH. YEAH. What are they good for? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Yeah, sing it again, y'all!

Posted by: TenthJustice at December 18, 2013 11:15 AM (qB8lN)

54

 I just hope the GOP is taking notes here.  If you don't get inforcement first, you never will....ever! 

I wish we could drill this into their heads, you know, Clockwork Orange style.

Posted by: WisRich at December 18, 2013 11:15 AM (hdpay)

55 The Democrats policies are so terrible they need new minority voters to dupe to stay in power. Pretty soon there will have to 500 million people in this nation in order for a Dem to be elected president.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 18, 2013 11:15 AM (P1WNR)

56 This is a simple restatement of the principle leftists have been pushing since at least the '60s. If you're an aggrieved party, you get to break some laws. It's why I have started to have problems with action movies. The main character has their loved one kidnapped, so it's OK to rampage across the city killing countless bystanders. *Archer voice* RRRRAAAAAMMMMPAAAAAGE!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:16 AM (A0glY)

57 She and Biden must have been lobotomized in the 60s

Posted by: thunderb at December 18, 2013 11:16 AM (RUDlQ)

58 This is the same Pelosi who meets behind closed doors with La Raza. That would make this sedition.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 11:16 AM (Mc0U3)

59 *BaNg!* /tags and stuffs sven in a bag To be fair, you did walk into that. /signals for CAS

Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 18, 2013 11:16 AM (naUcP)

60 "...how's the subsidy lotto going?" Very well, thank you.

Posted by: jwest at December 18, 2013 11:16 AM (u2a4R)

61 It never ceases to amaze me that these idiots don't understand the word illegal .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 18, 2013 11:16 AM (XWw96)

62 **I just hope the GOP is taking notes here.** or...the dnc has no intention of operating on good faith in any bargain you take up with themn

Posted by: oeJay44incday at December 18, 2013 11:16 AM (QxSug)

63 50 Lizzy, I called for the abolition of ICE last year. Send em all in nit just Mexicans

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 11:16 AM (9jfyN)

64
It would be fine with me if a bunch of illegals occupied her mansion for a good long time using all the stuff there as if it was theirs, I mean I don't think that should be a crime so it isn't.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2013 11:16 AM (MaP11)

65 This is the time the border states should take over.  Fuck the fed.  Fuck the courts.  If DC wants lawlessness, let's give them lawlessness.

Posted by: Soona at December 18, 2013 11:17 AM (LVAyz)

66 The Senate, House, and White House (and I mean ALL of them) routinely ignore the entire Constitution, which they swore to uphold. Why would be expect them to follow laws? After all, in our Elected Master's minds, it is their job make or change laws at will. Having to go through the inconvenience of debates, votes, and passage is merely an archaic formality. We are, after all, in the Age of Deem and Pass and Executive Orders with the force of law.

Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at December 18, 2013 11:17 AM (j0wOO)

67 If you can just casually dismiss immigration enforcement then you can just casually dismiss any law that inconveniences you. Particularly if you happen to be in a position of power. Checks and balances? An 18th century notion. Only two terms? Passed in the '50s, thus racist. See how that works?

Posted by: joncelli at December 18, 2013 11:17 AM (RD7QR)

68 You can say that kind of shit when you're in an extremely safe seat.

Posted by: Max Entropy at December 18, 2013 11:17 AM (QKYRm)

69 Shame I don't have Nancy Pelosi as a next door neighbor. I could walk right through her doors, help myself to whatever is in the frig, open up her wine cabinet and help myself. When she calls the police all I have to do is claim I don't have any documents on me. Free as the bird I point in her direction.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at December 18, 2013 11:17 AM (6Nqkf)

70 If laws are irrelevant, now, why does she exist?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 18, 2013 03:08 PM (IXrOn)

 

Right?  What's the point of having    Congress if they're just going to flip the bird at the   law?   Might as well get rid of them.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:17 AM (4df7R)

71 59 Cavil, It looks like a win to me....

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 11:17 AM (9jfyN)

72 And the Democrats and a bunch of RINOs voted to cut veteran benefits so these illegals could get a child care deduction.


Shows you which side they are on.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 18, 2013 11:17 AM (T2V/1)

73 Jesus Christ that Bitch is stupid.

Posted by: maddogg at December 18, 2013 11:18 AM (xWW96)

74 You know, if that's what they want, that's great.

Because I suspect we are just about full up on Mexicans who seek the dole and who want to be here like they think.

Especially as Mexico has an economy that is growing and is--actually, not in propaganda--poised to explode via the privatization of oil exploration and production.

Now, when I start bringing over shiploads of Irish, Scots and Indians, they may change their open borders policy.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 18, 2013 11:18 AM (VjL9S)

75 -35 Yes, we do not primarily have an immigration problem, we have a corruption problem. New laws won't help because the laws aren't the problem.

Posted by: zmdavid at December 18, 2013 11:18 AM (KwfID)

76 If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for the law. It invites every man to become a law unto himself. It invites anarchy. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting; Olmstead v. United States A nation that will not enforce its laws has no claim to the respect and allegiance of its people. Ambrose Bierce. 'Industrial Discontent', The Shadow on the Dial and other Essays (1909)

Posted by: Blake at December 18, 2013 11:18 AM (HBuxY)

77 What about no one should be aborted just because they're in the uterus against the desire of a wanton harlot? Not a real person.

Posted by: British "Ethicist"[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:18 AM (A0glY)

78 Simple question, is not signing up for Obamacare a deportable offense for either citizen or illegal (there now is no difference between the two per Nazi).

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at December 18, 2013 11:18 AM (oDCMR)

79 Institute the Fair Tax Plan, then open Welcome Centers along the borders and provide free transportation for anyone wishing to live and work in the U.S.

Posted by: jwest at December 18, 2013 11:19 AM (u2a4R)

80 Fine with me. Amnesty for all. End all entitlements and the welfare state and let's pass amnesty.

Posted by: levi at December 18, 2013 11:19 AM (5V/0T)

81 Ask Nancy what she thinks about the MS13 members in San Francisco who should have been deported for illegal immigration, let alone other issues, before killing a family in a drunk driving accident. SF's sanctuary city policy has a body count behind it.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 18, 2013 11:20 AM (/Crba)

82 SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... Illegal residency is now functionally identical to having a green card? Interesting. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2013 03:09 PM (8ZskC) I'm trying to do some outside the box legal thinking on this. Sooooooooo. If illegal residency is now functionally identical to having a green card, would all of those who have gone through the process to obtain green cards under the, hahahaha, law, hahahahaha, have a cognizable claim for honest services fraud? Does this now vitiate all the various prohibitions against illegal immigrants, I mean, alternately complying residents, receiving public assistance benefits? Does this mean I can now throatpunch people as they deserve? So many questions.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2013 11:20 AM (VtjlW)

83 For too long we've been forced to hide Cuban cigars in the shadows... and other places!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 18, 2013 11:20 AM (j0wOO)

84 Every (R) or otherwise opponent of every Democrat in every election for the next 10 years should quote this statement and then ask said Democrat if they support it.  If so, why do you hate citizens?  If not, why do you belong to a party that hates citizens?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 18, 2013 11:20 AM (b2cFu)

85 I remember there being one hell of a public debate about the new immigration law of 1965. Now, I don't read the details of immigration laws, but we have some lawyers here who could flesh this out: I strongly suspect that immigration laws, as amended, may agree with Madame P.

The penalty for being here "illegally" (without prior clearance) may very well be to be remanded to the custody (or "oversight," once you're released on recognizance) of an immigration-review process for further investigation. There have been some movies made about how unjust this is to the ahem "victims" and how nice they are, as, you know, people.

Just another set of laws we had to pass, and then still don't know what's in them.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2013 11:21 AM (xq1UY)

86 "Citizen" is derived from the Old English meaning "sucker that pays his taxes and follows idiotic laws." American citizenship is increasingly a burden rather than a privilege, and with the country this far gone, I think it's time to self-deport.

Posted by: Jack Nine at December 18, 2013 11:21 AM (0h8aq)

87 Cloward-Piven is basically Underpants Gnomes strategy. (For that matter, so is basic ordinary Marxism.) If she got what she wanted (and Obama would never give it to her, he's far too passive-aggressive for that) she wouldn't like the outcome, even as insulated from real life as she is.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2013 11:21 AM (T0NGe)

88 A nation that will not enforce its laws has no claim to the respect and allegiance of its people. Ambrose Bierce. 'Industrial Discontent', The Shadow on the Dial and other Essays (1909) It's worse. They selectively enforce the law. See the guy in DC who is getting his butt handed to him for having shell casings in his car while traveling.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:21 AM (A0glY)

89 ...how's the subsidy lotto going?

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THIS is why I want Sven as a roomie at the FEMA camps.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2013 11:22 AM (nELVU)

90 I love the euphemisms. "...if somebody is here without sufficient documentation," as if some guy is just walking down the street and, oops!, drops his SS info and drivers license down a drainpipe.

Posted by: TenthJustice at December 18, 2013 11:22 AM (qB8lN)

91

Fools, the whole lot of them.  Do you know what kind of message this sends?  Simply that if enough people break a law, the law will be changed to accommodate them.  It's not only the creation of a de-facto open borders policy, but the end of the Rule of Law on the whole.  Don't like weed laws?  Get everyone to light up.  Want to murder people?  Make with the stabbity.

 

Chaos lies this way.

Posted by: Cato at December 18, 2013 11:22 AM (i+Vw2)

92 DoesnÂ’t secondary enforcement imply that if theyÂ’re stopped for some other reason, they get deported? Arrested or not?

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 18, 2013 11:23 AM (QF8uk)

93 I can't enter the US from the Canuck border without a passport and an interview with a hostile officer who thinks my half pack of DuMaurier cigarettes is a smuggling operation, but you just leave your other border wide open? I love you America, but sometimes I think you've gone nuts.

Posted by: Mayor Ford at December 18, 2013 11:23 AM (ps27A)

94 Ask Nancy what she thinks about the MS13 members in San Francisco who should have been deported for illegal immigration, let alone other issues, before killing a family in a drunk driving accident.

Were they wealthy donors to her campaign?  Then she doesn't give a shit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 18, 2013 11:23 AM (ZKzrr)

95 Pretty sure this is a violation of her oath of office. If you are there to protect and defend the Constitution, then things that are passed in a constitutional manner are there to be protected and defended as well. But then again, I'm asking a lefty to be consistent.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 18, 2013 11:23 AM (659DL)

96 When your face is plastic you can say any old horseshit and the MFM will lap it up.

Posted by: Killerdog at December 18, 2013 11:23 AM (qAUap)

97 That should be “Wouldn’t secondary enforcement imply…”

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 18, 2013 11:23 AM (QF8uk)

98 Chaos lies this way.

Posted by: Cato at December 18, 2013 03:22 PM (i+Vw2)

 

 

You know, there is an upside to that.

Posted by: maddogg at December 18, 2013 11:23 AM (xWW96)

99 Any response from Rep Peter King, the anti-tea party guy?

Posted by: Mallfly at December 18, 2013 11:23 AM (bJm7W)

100 @81 before killing a family in a drunk driving accident.

Too easy. Mr and Mrs America will just have to turn in their booze and cars.
It's driving that causes all this grief.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2013 11:24 AM (xq1UY)

101 94 Ask Nancy what she thinks about the MS13 members in San Francisco who should have been deported for illegal immigration, let alone other issues, before killing a family in a drunk driving accident. Were they wealthy donors to her campaign? Then she doesn't give a shit. --- I thought as much. I just figured there MIGHT be a chance someone near her would give a shit if they were potential constituents rather than little people in "flyover country".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 18, 2013 11:24 AM (/Crba)

102 Pelosi's statement must make all those poor souls spending years and thousands of dollars to get into this country feel really good.

Posted by: jj at December 18, 2013 11:24 AM (gWO5X)

103 Now, when I start bringing over shiploads of Irish, Scots and Indians, they may change their open borders policy. No Irish.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2013 11:24 AM (qc7at)

104 People who paid for visas should sue to get their money back.

Posted by: Beagle at December 18, 2013 11:24 AM (sOtz/)

105 If they're willing to violate the law to come here because the law is inconvenient, how many other inconvenient laws do we have? Certainly they have no allegiance to us or our laws, and if it was our values which drew them then they would respect those values and come here through legal means. Doing nothing to enforce our immigration laws is the equivalent of leaving broken windows. It doesn't take long to go from not caring enough to fix a small thing to ruin.

Posted by: davem at December 18, 2013 11:25 AM (wmzCM)

106 No One Should Be Deported Just Because They're In the Country Illegally





In the left's warped world no one be arrested if they commit a crime unless of course it's a phony hate crime.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 18, 2013 11:25 AM (1Jaio)

107 >>Any response from Rep Peter King, the anti-tea party guy?


Uh, sorry?
I'm a little preoccupied with starting my own anti-Ted Cruz and Rad Paul PAC.
What was the question?

Posted by: Pete King R-A$$hole at December 18, 2013 11:25 AM (ruxvM)

108 Why would anyone here on a student or travel visa leave? Just pull an Obama and stay.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 11:25 AM (ZPrif)

109 This is why big labor is such a loyal democrat constituency. Because of how unfettered immigration benefits it's members. Because of, you know, fucking management with their stock options and such. Don't worry about it, the union knows what it's doing.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 18, 2013 11:25 AM (+lsX1)

110 I love the euphemisms. "...if somebody is here without sufficient documentation," as if some guy is just walking down the street and, oops!, drops his SS info and drivers license down a drainpipe. And we (who pay attention) have a pretty good idea of the technology that can take our picture, upload to a site with facial recognition software -- which three milliseconds later connects with some state DMV which identifies us. I'm tired of the government talking out of both sides of its face.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at December 18, 2013 11:26 AM (6Nqkf)

111 It's not only the creation of a de-facto open borders policy, but the end of the Rule of Law on the whole. Don't like weed laws? Get everyone to light up. Want to murder people? Make with the stabbity.

We didn't start the fire.

Posted by: Methos (LIB) at December 18, 2013 11:26 AM (hO9ad)

112 Certainly they have no allegiance to us or our laws, and if it was our values which drew them then they would respect those values and come here through legal means. What pisses me off the most: immigration reform never means making things easier for immigrants who want to be law-abiding immigrants.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 18, 2013 11:26 AM (QF8uk)

113 You know what else isn't a real crime? Assaulting Republicans, I mean it's not they are REAL people anyways.

Posted by: Nanzi Pelowsi at December 18, 2013 11:26 AM (Zswg6)

114 89 fixerupper, Thanks I'lk be the grinning guy with a scar o'er his eye...

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 11:26 AM (9jfyN)

115 I can't enter the US from the Canuck border without a passport and an interview with a hostile officer who thinks my half pack of DuMaurier cigarettes is a smuggling operation, but you just leave your other border wide open?


Posted by: Mayor Ford at December 18, 2013 03:23 PM (ps27A)


Thats because people from your area are most likely indistinguishable from any other "privileged"  white American.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 18, 2013 11:27 AM (FMbng)

116 What a dumbass she is.

Posted by: Titanium at December 18, 2013 11:27 AM (JLKJJ)

117 It must be nice to be above the law, and better yet, in a position to decide which laws will apply, and to whom they will apply.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 18, 2013 11:27 AM (O3C36)

118 So why shouldn't I renounce my US Citizenship, and remain here to work? Wouldn't that get me out of paying federal income taxes?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:27 AM (A0glY)

119 You know who agrees?  Libertarians. 

They've got nothing but wedge issues and we're going to see them ALL next year.

Posted by: Shoot Me at December 18, 2013 11:27 AM (qiXMt)

120 Does this mean I can now throatpunch people as they deserve?


Your hypothetical is incomplete.  You'll need to supply current information on the race, gender and sexual orientation of the puncher and punchee before a reliable legal opinion may be derived.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2013 11:27 AM (8ZskC)

121 If an illegal alien falls in the forest and no one sees him, is he here legally?


Interesting times, we live in; very interesting times........

Posted by: Momma Said There'd Be Days Like This at December 18, 2013 11:27 AM (omBWL)

122 Have they ID'd who Pajama Boy really is yet? Is he an actor?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 11:27 AM (ZPrif)

123 I wish that bitch would get incurable face rot and dissolve before our eyes.

Posted by: maddogg at December 18, 2013 11:27 AM (xWW96)

124 This is some retarded shit, right here.

Posted by: Jeantel at December 18, 2013 11:28 AM (JQuNB)

125 I don't think Dems particularly care either way about illegals or mexicans, whatever, but they do have this strong mental image of Texans shooting mexicans down in droves at the border and it gives them massive boners thinking about the political footballin' they can do with that, yessir.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 18, 2013 11:28 AM (3ZtZW)

126 93 I can't enter the US from the Canuck border without a passport and an interview with a hostile officer who thinks my half pack of DuMaurier cigarettes is a smuggling operation, but you just leave your other border wide open? I love you America, but sometimes I think you've gone nuts. I can see Canada from my house, and pre-9/11, not only didn't we border dwellers need a passport, if your driver's license showed that you lived within shouting distance of the border, you got waved right through Customs. Going to Canada was no different than driving down the street, with a brief pause to show Customs your license. Well, that and all the STOP signs suddenly said "ARRET." Nowadays, I don't even bother. I do miss the Canadian Ballet though. (oh, and DuMauriers? Get yourself some good ol' Marlboros while you're here in the US of A!)

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 18, 2013 11:28 AM (7ObY1)

127 off topic, speaking of demoscrunts, from "market watch dot com" via yahoo:

"Sometimes it seems like Hillary Clinton is daring Elizabeth Warren to challenge her for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016.

The former first lady, senator and secretary of state is making a point of wooing Wall Street donors and telling them how much she loves them, implicitly dissing the senator from Massachusetts, who has based her political career on a crusade against banksÂ’ greed and misbehavior. "

Posted by: Mallfly at December 18, 2013 11:29 AM (bJm7W)

128 American citizenship is increasingly a burden rather than a privilege, and with the country this far gone, I think it's time to self-deport.

Posted by: Jack Nine at December 18, 2013 03:21 PM (0h8aq)

 

 

-------------------------------------------------

 

 

Thinking about it.  Especially if I don't see any active opposition coming forth.  I really don't want to think that this nation will die whimpering.  But it looks like it is.

Posted by: Soona at December 18, 2013 11:29 AM (LVAyz)

129 Bring us your drug gangs, your prostitutes, your TB and polio, your drunk drivers and the permanent underclass of your teeming shore

Posted by: thunderb at December 18, 2013 11:29 AM (RUDlQ)

130 Question: Can we apply the same irrelevancy to other forms of required IDs and documents? For example, CCW permits? I'm willing concede that "undocumented" immigrants can stay so long as documentation requirements for my Second Amendment rights are found to be equally invalid. Personally, I think my case has more merit. I don't see why I need to pay fees, carry documents, and take classes when my rights in this regard are already supposed to be guaranteed.

Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at December 18, 2013 11:29 AM (j0wOO)

131 Do we need to get Gabe to do a Twitterstorm of all the rapes, murders and drunk driving deaths from illegals? I can think of quite a few just from my area. Just a local news story or twelve, of course.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 11:29 AM (V6E6P)

132 Compare and contrast with this story: Belgium shut to new citizens in 2013. http://bbc.in/1fBrjrJ Belgium's citizenship laws are so strict not a single person successfully became a new citizen in 2013. Guess this is one issue where liberals say we AREN'T suppose to act like Europe.

Posted by: TenthJustice at December 18, 2013 11:29 AM (qB8lN)

133 I wish that bitch would get incurable face rot and dissolve before our eyes.

Posted by: maddogg at December 18, 2013 03:27 PM (xWW96)

 

 

All it would take is one bad syringe     that's     more botulism than    Botox...

 

For real schadenfreude, the    bad Botox would    have been    prepared and packaged by an illegal alien.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:29 AM (4df7R)

134 Thomas Sowell:

"Most laws are meant to stop people from doing something, and to penalize those who disregard those laws. More generally, laws are meant to protect the society from the law breakers.

But our immigration laws are different. Here the whole focus is on the "plight" of those who have broken the laws, and on what can be done to lift the stigma and ease the pressures they feel, so that they can "come out of the shadows" and "normalize" their lives....

On the other hand, if an ordinary American citizen breaks a law, no one cares if he has to live in fear for years — "in the shadows," as it were — worrying that his illegal act will be discovered and punished. No one bothers to come up with euphemisms to keep from calling what he did illegal."


Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2013 11:29 AM (ruxvM)

135

John Boner would like to remind everybody that he is as conservative as anyone out, including Hacksaw Jim Duggan.

Same with Paul Ryan, a man's Conservative if there ever was one, in the history of man!



Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 18, 2013 11:29 AM (xggaJ)

136 American immigration policy shall henceforth be executed under the Olly Olly Oxen Free Doctrine.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2013 11:30 AM (8ZskC)

137 122 Have they ID'd who Pajama Boy really is yet? Is he an actor? A lot of people say, "What's that?" It's Pat! A lot of people ask, "Who's he? Or she?" A ma'am or a sir, accept him or her or whatever it might be. It's time for androgyny. Here comes Pat!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 18, 2013 11:30 AM (7ObY1)

138 There is NO way someone can be here illegally, and NOT break some other law. Identity theft... fraud... misrepresentation... Plus its still illegal to knowingly help someone stay in the country illegally... its still a felony... Thus you must add those, and conspiracy charges, on top....

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 11:30 AM (lZBBB)

139 Have they ID'd who Pajama Boy really is yet?
Is he an actor?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 03:27 PM (ZPrif)




Barry noticed him in a gay pron movie he just so happened to be watching and hired him

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 18, 2013 11:30 AM (1Jaio)

140 You know who agrees? Libertarians.

The pot smoking ones. I think it's perfectly consistent to recognize that God intended us to have rights, but in a fallen world, as a practical matter, we can only stick up for those who mutually recognize our rights.

Posted by: Methos (LIB) at December 18, 2013 11:30 AM (hO9ad)

141 We just hope Pelosi hasn't seen our prices lately.

Posted by: Best Buy at December 18, 2013 11:31 AM (8ZskC)

142 Paul Stanley is just glad that there's somebody out there with more Botox in their face than him.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 18, 2013 11:31 AM (7ObY1)

143 Nobody should be deported - or be aloud to squat in my neighborhood.

Posted by: Jean at December 18, 2013 11:31 AM (4JkHl)

144 Has anyone figured out which other country in world has English speakers, capitalism and plenty of individual freedom? I'm ready to relocate.

Posted by: Meremortal, it's over at December 18, 2013 11:31 AM (1Y+hH)

145 Your child rapists, your 13 year old mothers.......,

Posted by: thunderb at December 18, 2013 11:31 AM (RUDlQ)

146 People who paid for visas should sue to get their money back. Posted by: Beagle #nostanding

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2013 11:31 AM (qc7at)

147 "undocumented immigrant" ?!?  .. just ask them for the Mexican or Honduran papers

Posted by: Gregg O. McCrary at December 18, 2013 11:31 AM (e8kgV)

148 Compare and contrast with this story: Belgium shut to new citizens in 2013. http://bbc.in/1fBrjrJ

Six confused Frenchmen hardest hit.


Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2013 11:32 AM (8ZskC)

149

If someone is here illegally, they are not a citzen, and therefore they have no right to free speech, no right to privacy, no right to be free of searches and seizures, no right to bear arms, no right to remain silent, etc etc etc.

 

I would like an explanation of how the rights that illegal aliens are not eligible for are    taken for     granted, while the one law that is specifically addressed to them is not applied.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 18, 2013 11:32 AM (O3C36)

150 Has anyone figured out which other country in world has English speakers, capitalism and plenty of individual freedom? I'm ready to relocate. Renounce your US Citizenship and stay here, Fed Income Tax free.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:32 AM (A0glY)

151 One aspect of illegal immigration *neither side ever* talks about is the disease aspect. It isn't just the anti-vax nuts who are causing increases in measles and whooping cough outbreaks. Just wait until some illegal immigrant causes a polio outbreak in DC. Or better yet, some Muslim terrorist brings a disease over here to intentionally cause an outbreak, and he or she is able to easily do so because of Democrats being so in love with open borders. We can't selectively have open borders for Latino immigrants and standards for all other immigrants. #racist much Nancy?

Posted by: WITML62 at December 18, 2013 11:33 AM (La2HR)

152 Has anyone figured out which other country in world has English speakers, capitalism and plenty of individual freedom?


Hong Kong.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2013 11:33 AM (8ZskC)

153 It's not only the creation of a de-facto open borders policy, but the end of the Rule of Law on the whole. Don't like weed laws? Get everyone to light up. Want to murder people? Make with the stabbity. Don't want to pay taxes... But you're right. They can't catch us all. That's always been true. But even so, the laws were still in effect and enforced. What she's arguing is that if the law is broken enough, then the law should be abandoned de jure, not just de facto.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2013 11:33 AM (T0NGe)

154 All it would take is one bad syringe that'smore botulism than Botox... --- Which has me thinking... Ever seen "Dead And Buried"? I think Nazi Pelosi would feel right at home in the town within that movie.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 18, 2013 11:33 AM (/Crba)

155 Hahaaha! You thought I was fiction.

Posted by: 1984 at December 18, 2013 11:33 AM (JQuNB)

156 He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither"

I choke on the irony of that, decade after decade.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2013 11:33 AM (xq1UY)

157

At this point, I'm getting closer and closer to just denouncing, renouncing, and fleeing to Switzerland for asylum.  When the rule of law ends and arbitrary law begins, we are all hunted men.

Posted by: Cato at December 18, 2013 11:33 AM (i+Vw2)

158 144 Has anyone figured out which other country in world has English speakers, capitalism and plenty of individual freedom? I'm ready to relocate Shit. They don't even need to speak English. I don't like people anyway.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 11:34 AM (V6E6P)

159 "144 Has anyone figured out which other country in world has English speakers, capitalism and plenty of individual freedom? I'm ready to relocate." Space colony.

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2013 11:34 AM (hFL/3)

160 One aspect of illegal immigration *neither side ever* talks about is the disease aspect.

Posted by: WITML62 at December 18, 2013 03:33 PM (La2HR)

 

 

See the recent outbreaks   of antibiotic-resistant TB in    the   poorer   sections of     Los Angeles.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:34 AM (4df7R)

161 Do we all get to choose what laws to follow, now?  Can we tell Nancy to perform reproductive biological acts on herself repeatedly?

Can I tell the IRS they aren't getting any more money from me?

Are the Dems really this stupid?  When the masses realize we are no longer a nation of laws, but of men -- they DO realize how it ends for them, don't they?

Posted by: acethepug at December 18, 2013 11:34 AM (LjAC2)

162 Has anyone figured out which other country in world has English speakers, capitalism and plenty of individual freedom?

We are, as you say, as seen on TV.

Posted by: Belize at December 18, 2013 11:34 AM (hO9ad)

163 I'm beginning to think the only cure for the shit running this country is DDT.

Posted by: maddogg at December 18, 2013 11:34 AM (xWW96)

164 Hong Kong. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2013 03:33 PM (8ZskC) Oops, I forgot to include rural living. I don't do cities anymore. Thanks, though.

Posted by: Meremortal, it's over at December 18, 2013 11:35 AM (1Y+hH)

165 150 Has anyone figured out which other country in world has English speakers, capitalism and plenty of individual freedom? I'm ready to relocate. Niue And it's a Christian nation. So Christian that everything closes on Sundays. Even the ocean. (not kidding, swimming and fishing are frowned upon on Sundays.) Christian nation, beautiful tropical weather, great fishing, English speaking, not socialist...I'm in.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 18, 2013 11:35 AM (7ObY1)

166 Renounce your US Citizenship, spend a long weekend in Cabo, sneak back in and stay here, Fed Income Tax free.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 11:35 AM (Mc0U3)

167 Have they ID'd who Pajama Boy really is yet?
Is he an actor?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 03:27 PM (ZPrif)


By now he's probably a dude contemplating eating his gun.


Eh,who am I kidding. The dude in that pic probably breaks out in a sweat just touching a water pistol.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 18, 2013 11:35 AM (FMbng)

168 144 Has anyone figured out which other country in world has English speakers, capitalism and plenty of individual freedom?


-----

New Zealand..... but their borders are practically closed.

Go figger.....

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2013 11:36 AM (nELVU)

169 Shit. They don't even need to speak English. I don't like people anyway.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 03:34 PM (V6E6P)

 

The only reason I'd need English speakers around me would be so I could say, "Does thsi have any peanut in it?"   Because I don't want to die.

 

Maybe we could form an ex-pat English-speaking commune somewhere. 

 

...

 

Would that make us a    cult?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:36 AM (4df7R)

170 Oops, I forgot to include rural living. I don't do cities anymore. Thanks, though.


If you can say one thing about Hong Kong, it's that it isn't rural.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2013 11:36 AM (8ZskC)

171 Thats because people from your area are most likely indistinguishable from any other "privileged" white American. Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 18, 2013 03:27 PM (FMbng) (oh, and DuMauriers? Get yourself some good ol' Marlboros while you're here in the US of A!) Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 18, 2013 03:28 PM (7ObY1) Actually, my white ass is very minority in this area. Most people in my city were born overseas. And I would love some Marlboro cigs but for some reason they are illegal up here.

Posted by: Mayor Ford at December 18, 2013 11:36 AM (ps27A)

172 "We're fucked, Dean Wormer, I mean Pelosi, Dropped the big ONE!

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 18, 2013 11:36 AM (M/sip)

173 New Zealand..... but their borders are practically closed. Bonus : NO Spiders

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 11:36 AM (Mc0U3)

174 Another sad reminder that the toll on brain tissue from multiple plastic surgeries remains uncharted.  Kids, don't take the risks, live with the wrinkles.

And to young girls, remember if you are wise and prudent and spend the ObamaCare money on your chest instead, they won't be looking at your face anyway. 

It's too late for Nancy; don't let it be too late for you.

Posted by: Adjoran at December 18, 2013 11:36 AM (473jB)

175 (Singing...) 'Cause I'll knock you off your feet, have MRSA on me!

Posted by: Guilty as Sin, Free as a Bird Manuel at December 18, 2013 11:37 AM (JQuNB)

176 Renounce your US Citizenship and stay here, Fed Income Tax free. Posted by: bonhomme at December 18, 2013 03:32 PM (A0glY) Sounds much too easy. There must be a hell of catch or millions would have done this. I've already gone mostly Galt and pay very little in Federal Taxes, though I will temporarily when certain investments mature.

Posted by: Meremortal, relocating at December 18, 2013 11:37 AM (1Y+hH)

177 Bonus : NO Spiders

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 03:36 PM (Mc0U3)


----


Well..... that means MWR is packing as we speak...

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2013 11:38 AM (nELVU)

178 If'n I was the Governor of a State.... I would start the Romeo Doctrine of Enforcement. Most ID laws are STATE Laws... Fraud? State Law... ID theft? State Law.... and then there is State income tax enforcement. For every STATE function, force them to a document, with perjury implications, for service. Investigate them RUTHLESSLY for Identity fraud... CHARGE THEM... Then tell them your court date is in 180 days. However, we will not pursue you over any international Border... although if you ever come back, the warrant will still be outstanding. ie.... get them to SELF deport, by enforcing STATE Law...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 11:38 AM (lZBBB)

179

There must be a hell of catch or millions would have done this

 

Try 11 million and counting.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:38 AM (4df7R)

180 Bonus : NO Spiders

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 03:36 PM (Mc0U3)

 

 

 

 

 

Well, now we know where the moronettes are going.

Posted by: maddogg at December 18, 2013 11:38 AM (xWW96)

181 New Zealand..... but their borders are practically closed. Go figger..... Posted by: fixerupper Already looked into that one. They will take brain surgeons and that's about it.

Posted by: Meremortal, relocate at December 18, 2013 11:38 AM (1Y+hH)

182 Sounds much too easy. There must be a hell of catch or millions would have done this. I've already gone mostly Galt and pay very little in Federal Taxes, though I will temporarily when certain investments mature. --- I think the catch is that Tea Partiers, or those like them, will soon be declared "enemy combatants".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 18, 2013 11:38 AM (/Crba)

183 If you can say one thing about Hong Kong, it's that it isn't rural. It's still 2/3 green space. No, really. Thank one of the British Governors General for that.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 18, 2013 11:38 AM (659DL)

184 Well..... that means MWR is packing as we speak...

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2013 03:38 PM (nELVU)

 

If I thougth I had a snowball's chance in hell of actually being allowed to emigrate to New Zealand, I would.  Wanna know why?

 

A) The no spiders thing, as mentioned, and

 

B) KARL. FUCKING. URBAN.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:39 AM (4df7R)

185 Or, following up on Podesta's remarks: Fuck You. We are above the law.

At what point does Boehner take off his diapers?

Posted by: Marcus at December 18, 2013 11:39 AM (GGCsk)

186  Has anyone figured out which other country in world has English speakers, capitalism and plenty of individual freedom?

I'm ready to relocate.

Posted by: Meremortal, it's over at December 18, 2013 03:31 PM (1Y+hH)

 

 

------------------------------------------

 

 

Belize.  Bali.  Thailand.  Hong Kong.   Costa Rica.  Peru.

Posted by: Soona at December 18, 2013 11:39 AM (LVAyz)

187 BTW, How long has this Scrunt been there? I saw a sign w/her name on it in the background of a "Streets of San Francisco" (Karl Malden, Michael Douglass was about 20??) The shitty cop show from the '70s where every week a Vietnam Vet does something bad. Hey, I got basic cable, give me a break!

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 18, 2013 11:39 AM (M/sip)

188 Actually, my white ass is very minority in this area. Most people in my city were born overseas. And I would love some Marlboro cigs but for some reason they are illegal up here. They're practically illegal here in New Yorkistan, with the draconian taxes. I actually buy the Marlboro knockoffs at the local Indian Rez. But whenever I'm not in NY, it's real 'boros all the way!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 18, 2013 11:39 AM (7ObY1)

189

No  one  should  be  prosecuted  because  they  killed  a  member  of  congress. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at December 18, 2013 11:40 AM (rXcBX)

190 @149 If someone is here illegally, they are not a citzen, and therefore they have no right...

There. Finally, something you can legitimately blame on libertarians. At some point, we started reading it as the "Bill of Rights of Man and Citizen," as if the rights we recognize as Creator-endowed have to be enforced, by us, for all persons everywhere under any circumstance. Reagan and GWB guilty, too.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2013 11:40 AM (xq1UY)

191 Maybe we could form an ex-pat English-speaking commune somewhere.  With the firepower the horde has, we could probably take Cuba in a couple days.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 11:40 AM (V6E6P)

192 EXCELLENT!  My name is Nancy Pelosi and I'd like to make a LARGE withdrawal from my checking account, Sir, and PLEASE don't ask me for a photo-ID, okay?

Posted by: MtTB at December 18, 2013 11:40 AM (lQCe+)

193 Posted by: Lauren at December Good one.

Posted by: Meremortal, relocate? at December 18, 2013 11:40 AM (1Y+hH)

194 I think the catch is that Tea Partiers, or those like them, will soon be declared "enemy combatants". At that point it's Weapons Free.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2013 11:41 AM (qc7at)

195 Already looked into that one. They will take brain surgeons and that's about it.

Do self-taught brain surgeons count or do you have to go to a school?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2013 11:41 AM (8ZskC)

196 Federal "pound you in the ass" prison for this one, please.

Posted by: © Sponge at December 18, 2013 11:41 AM (xmcEQ)

197 191 Maybe we could form an ex-pat English-speaking commune somewhere. Like Jonestown. With guns. And without the socialism. And the Flavor-ade.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 18, 2013 11:41 AM (7ObY1)

198 191 Maybe we could form an ex-pat English-speaking commune somewhere.� With the firepower the horde has, we could probably take Cuba in a couple days. --- Why would one want to? It would be like taking over a junkyard full of 50s junkers and outdated military equipment.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 18, 2013 11:42 AM (/Crba)

199 So if I were to get pulled over for speeding and I chose to flip off the cop    who wrote me the ticket, that's totally cool, right?     According to Nazi PeloKKKi, just because I happen to vent my frustration by making vulgar hand signals at a member of law enforcement doesn't mean I should be charged with assault on an officer or whatever the fuck bullshit charge they'd use.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:42 AM (4df7R)

200 They will take brain surgeons and that's about it.

----


Does beating someones brains in qualify???

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2013 11:43 AM (nELVU)

201 Well. of course Nancy Pelosi agrees with illegal immigration. She's a millionaire who own orchards and vineyards that need the cheap labor.

We don't pay no stinking white man. I think that's written over the entrance gate.

Posted by: Marcus at December 18, 2013 11:43 AM (GGCsk)

202 We interrupt this angry thread for some schadenfreude: Shia LeBeauf was just caught red-handed plagiarizing an entire movie. This is the second time he's been caught in a year. He apologized on Twitter, while not admitting to anything. And now, evidence is emerging that his APOLOGY for plagiarism, was in fact, plagiarized.

Posted by: TenthJustice at December 18, 2013 11:43 AM (qB8lN)

203 Already looked into that one. They will take brain surgeons and that's about it.

They also want your medical history before they'll let you in, because 100% pure socialized medicine.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 18, 2013 11:43 AM (ZKzrr)

204 WTF? There are many spiders in New Zealand. Thousands of species of them. There are even spiders in the ocean.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 18, 2013 11:43 AM (qyfb5)

205
DoesnÂ’t secondary enforcement imply that if theyÂ’re stopped for some other reason, they get deported? Arrested or not?

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 18, 2013 03:23 PM (QF8uk)










It's not even that. The Feds haven't been taking custody of immigration offenders found by local PDs for several years now, if memory serves. Even if they're caught for other crimes/offenses.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2013 11:43 AM (TIIx5)

206 Voting in California? Provisional ballots and Absentee being the preferred voter fraud scam.

Oh, and Bob Mulholland? Californians know him pretty well. Bob was the dirty trick operative for the state democratic party  machine for 30 years. His wife was a county supervisor for 20 bloody years.

Talk about political patronage, Bob's wife handed it out like candy. A leftist friend of mine received preferential treatment when he built homes on land zoned for agriculture - and -  the kicker to that being, it was on land Jane Dolan-Mulholland had rezoned as Green Line boundary - no building or construction allowed.

No way, San Jose! (paving over orchards)

Posted by: 13times at December 18, 2013 11:44 AM (fGPLK)

207 The Bahamas (specifically the non-tourist islands) look about as good as any of the suggestions. There are some healthcare issues, that's the only big foulup.

Posted by: Meremortal, moving at December 18, 2013 11:44 AM (1Y+hH)

208 Why do I need a passport to travel? Are we living in Hotel California or a Roach Motel?

Posted by: Nom de Blog at December 18, 2013 11:45 AM (JSmUP)

209 No one should go to jail just because they don't pay taxes.

Nobody should face the justice system if they are caught drunk driving.

You can't arrest a person for "hate crimes".

You can't prosecute a person for breaking the environmental laws.

etc...

Posted by: Marcus at December 18, 2013 11:45 AM (GGCsk)

210 Donde esta senoritas blanco?

Posted by: The Mexicans at December 18, 2013 11:45 AM (QM5S2)

211 There are even spiders in the ocean. Yes, very tasty ones, especially with drawn butter.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at December 18, 2013 11:46 AM (6Nqkf)

212 If they're not going to enforce this law, then why should they enforce tax laws.  I think I'll skip my quarterly filing.

Posted by: Jean at December 18, 2013 11:46 AM (4JkHl)

213 Does beating someones brains in qualify??? Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2013 03:43 PM (nELVU) Not for New Zealand, but we could use that skill in D.C.

Posted by: Meremortal, w/cluebat at December 18, 2013 11:46 AM (1Y+hH)

214 B) KARL. FUCKING. URBAN. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 18, 2013 03:39 PM (4df7R) If you punch holes in the side, I can squeeze into a suitcase.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2013 11:48 AM (VtjlW)

215 I just would like to know which laws I can now ignore.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 18, 2013 11:48 AM (QupBk)

216 So many lamp posts, so little time.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 18, 2013 11:49 AM (QupBk)

217 It would be like taking over a junkyard full of 50s junkers and outdated military equipment You say that like it's a bad thing...

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 11:50 AM (V6E6P)

218 Secession.  It's either that or leave the country.   I would fight for  Constitutional law and freedom,  but I couldn't do it alone.

Posted by: Soona at December 18, 2013 11:50 AM (LVAyz)

219

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."  Marcus Tullius Cicero

Posted by: Havildar-Major at December 18, 2013 11:50 AM (kduZC)

220 Barbara Boxer and her scamster in laws (Rodhams) stole land zoned as a game preserve and then ceded it to some local indian tribe for a new casino.

Profit.

Posted by: 13times at December 18, 2013 11:50 AM (fGPLK)

221 217 It would be like taking over a junkyard full of 50s junkers and outdated military equipment You say that like it's a bad thing... Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 03:50 PM (V6E6P) Mad Max, Beyond Havana?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 11:50 AM (lZBBB)

222 I just would like to know which laws I can now ignore. Depends. Are you a white male Veteran? In that case, any Federal Laws will be enforced strictly.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:50 AM (A0glY)

223 212 If they're not going to enforce this law, then why should they enforce tax laws. I think I'll skip my quarterly filing. Posted by: Jean at December 18, 2013 03:46 PM (4JkHl) I live in NY and I want a full-auto AR. They're breaking the social compact by their selective enforcement of the law. It really is going to come down to "might makes right" instead of rule of law.

Posted by: Iblis at December 18, 2013 11:51 AM (9221z)

224

>>>Belize. Bali. Thailand. Hong Kong. Costa Rica. Peru.

 

I've heard all have strong ex-pat communities, meaning a lot of us have already left.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 18, 2013 11:51 AM (3ZtZW)

225 Para inglesa, presione '2'.

Posted by: The Mexicans at December 18, 2013 11:51 AM (QM5S2)

226 Allie Allie Oxen Free! - New Dem Immigration Motto

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 18, 2013 11:52 AM (BAS5M)

227 When the SHTF, then my people will see California as expendable. A modern village of Mad Max and limo Liberals. Living here is going to get real large.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at December 18, 2013 11:52 AM (j6DTo)

228 Yeah , morons , now who want's some primo cheeba ? Im gonna' found a palmetto state cartel . I mean as long as we're only following some of the laws .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 18, 2013 11:52 AM (WK8VM)

229 I live in NY and I want a full-auto AR. I've never tried a full-auto weapon. They look hard to control.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:52 AM (A0glY)

230 Belize. Bali. Thailand. Hong Kong. Costa Rica. Peru. Posted by: Soona at December 18, 2013 03:39 PM Belize was a consideration but I hear the natives don't like USA ex-pats much. Been to Costa Rica, too third world for permanent living. Bahamas still in first place if I can figure out the healthcare issues. I guess I could always call Lloyds of London... I wonder how the Swiss are about taking USA ex-pats these days....and if you get far enough into the sticks in Italy, the govt seems far away. I can go dual as my Dad was born there. So, I could transition.

Posted by: Meremortal, w/cluebat at December 18, 2013 11:53 AM (1Y+hH)

231


>>>It would be like taking over a junkyard full of 50s junkers and outdated military equipment.

 

Dude. Some elbow grease and we'd have the world's biggest classic car and gun show evar

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 18, 2013 11:53 AM (3ZtZW)

232 They should be repeatedly slapped with this.

If you truly believe it's basically a human right's violation to accept less than this ... then pound Mexico into changing -their- laws to -at-least- match ours.

Posted by: Al at December 18, 2013 11:53 AM (9ynpo)

233
Has anyone figured out which other country in world has English speakers, capitalism and plenty of individual freedom?

I'm ready to relocate."










Israel. Most folks speak decent English. Warm (except for this winter), great nightlife in Tel Aviv and Eilat.

Far from perfect though. Semi-socialist, surrounded by screaming savages and constantly under threat of annihilation.

Two big factors in their favor:

Everyone packs heat. EVERYONE.

Hawt IDF Chicks.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2013 11:53 AM (TIIx5)

234 from an email I got today: Irony 1: “We are told NOT TO judge ALL Islamic supremacists by the actions of a few lunatics." BUT on the other hand… "We are also encouraged TO judge ALL Gun Owners by the actions of a few lunatics." Irony 2: The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free Meals and Food Stamps ever, to 47 million people as of the most recent figures available in 2013. Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us "Please Do Not Feed the Animals." Their stated reason for the policy is because, "The animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves." Thus ends today's two lessons in irony.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 18, 2013 11:54 AM (QupBk)

235 I've heard all have strong ex-pat communities, meaning a lot of us have already left.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 18, 2013 03:51 PM (3ZtZW)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

Also a lot of Brits, Irish, and Scots.  They've had it with the Isles too.

Posted by: Soona at December 18, 2013 11:54 AM (LVAyz)

236 Time to implement my small box idea yet? Fake Mexican birth certificates for the Moron horde

Posted by: ginaswo at December 18, 2013 11:54 AM (Was8V)

237 Just heard a fascinating comment on Hannity's show. It was HOF RB Jim Brown capping on Kobe Bryant by stating that Kobe was raised in a foreign country so he really doesn't get America. Hmmm....

Posted by: SFGoth at December 18, 2013 11:54 AM (3zCY5)

238 Dude. Some elbow grease and we'd have the world's biggest classic car and gun show evar. Zero original parts. Even the leaf springs are probably corrugated metal flattened together.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 18, 2013 11:54 AM (A0glY)

239 We have to pass the immigration enforcement law so that we can find out that it doesn't matter what is in it.

Posted by: Neonazi Palazzo [/i] at December 18, 2013 11:54 AM (klzyR)

240 Posted by: Iblis at December 18, 2013 03:51 PM (9221z) Hell.... I live in CA.... and only Cops and Hollywood can have even a SEMI Auto Combat Rifle. Which flies in the face of the right to keep and bear ARMS.... as an Arm is a Militarily significant weapon... and the base military weapon worldwide today is the Assault Rifle.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 11:54 AM (lZBBB)

241 I live in NY and I want a full-auto AR. I've never tried a full-auto weapon. They look hard to control. Posted by: bonhomme Train & practice for short bursts. Better to have & not need, than to need & not have.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2013 11:55 AM (qc7at)

242 Brown's quote is: "“He [Kobe] threw Shaq under the bus,” Brown said. “He is somewhat confused about culture because he was brought up in another country so it doesn’t quite fit (with) what’s happening in America.”

Posted by: SFGoth at December 18, 2013 11:56 AM (3zCY5)

243 No Poisonous Spiders. My bad.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 11:56 AM (shkPh)

244 I just would like to know which laws I can now ignore.

Need more information to answer that.  Native language? Amount of melanin? Ghey?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 18, 2013 11:56 AM (ZKzrr)

245 With all of the religiosity going on at the AoSHQ, I thought this bit of news in Vic's favorite paper, The State, is pretty funny:

Headline:

"Election 2014: John McCain 'prays' Sarah Palin stays out of Lindsey Graham primary"

LINK: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ojgnjgv

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2013 11:56 AM (HjPtV)

246 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2013 03:53 PM Hadn't thought of that one.

Posted by: Meremortal, w/funny little hat at December 18, 2013 11:56 AM (1Y+hH)

247 and if you get far enough into the sticks in Italy, the govt seems far away. I can go dual as my Dad was born there. So, I could transition. Not a bad idea. You can buy Italian citizenship for about 1000 bucks. My aunt did it (her dad was born there.) But there's that whole Amanda Knox thing that worries me. Their justice system, from what we saw in the Knox case, is terrifying and corrupt. Well, moreso than ours.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 18, 2013 11:56 AM (7ObY1)

248
217 It would be like taking over a junkyard full of 50s junkers and outdated military equipment


You say that like it's a bad thing...


Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 03:50 PM (V6E6P)

Mad Max, Beyond Havana?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 03:50 PM (lZBBB)








Mad Max, Beyond Thunderchrome


FIFY

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2013 11:57 AM (TIIx5)

249 Ok, so pelosi has made it clear what the democrat position is. Does anyone know what the Republican position on this topic is?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 18, 2013 11:57 AM (vwxsR)

250 Someone upthread mentioned the country of Niue so I took a gander at Wikipedia. Interesting factoid for Niue: The Internet TLD (top level domain) is .nu

Posted by: Retread at December 18, 2013 11:58 AM (G+w7R)

251 Para inglesa, presione '2'. Close. I have a friend (immigrant who went the full nine yards and studied, took the test, passed, and is now a citizen) who wrote down the correct phrase for me. It's how I now answer my landline -- when I occasionally do, which is almost never. People who know me immediately laugh. Telemarketers hang up. Shame that, you know? I will probably misspell it, but it's basically; Aprecion dos par anglais, por fovor.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at December 18, 2013 11:58 AM (6Nqkf)

252 *PajamaBoy enters the room* Hey, who else would like a nice warm cup of horse cum?

Posted by: PajamaBoy at December 18, 2013 11:58 AM (0cMkb)

253 "and if you get far enough into the sticks in Italy, the govt seems far away."

Which has both good points, and bad points.

If you have a spread in rural Italy, you may well end up having to deal with outfits like the Camorra showing up in the middle of the night and dumping a few thousand drums full of very nasty toxic industrial waste onto your property.

Governments are nice things to have at times when it comes to, y'know, actually enforcing laws against genuine crimes, and ensuring private property rights.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2013 11:58 AM (gqT4g)

254 The only crime is not being a leftist

Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 11:59 AM (zOTsN)

255

>>>Zero original parts. Even the leaf springs are probably corrugated metal flattened together.

 

Sorry, I thought we were here to sell. If you want to hang onto your imaginary ill-gotten piece of junk go right ahead....

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 18, 2013 12:00 PM (3ZtZW)

256 The Internet TLD (top level domain) is .nu Posted by: Retread at December 18, 2013 03:58 PM (G+w7R) That because NI is copyrighted...

Posted by: Knights who say Ni Legal Dept. at December 18, 2013 12:00 PM (lZBBB)

257 Nobody should be able to serve in Congress just because they were elected.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 18, 2013 12:00 PM (ZshNr)

258 Someone upthread mentioned the country of Niue so I took a gander at Wikipedia. Interesting factoid for Niue: The Internet TLD (top level domain) is .nu So the head ewok doesn't live on the US east coast?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2013 12:01 PM (qc7at)

259 " and do not commit a crime the Democrats consider deportation-worthy"

Such as voting Republican. In fact, that might the ONLY deportation-worthy offense in their book.

Posted by: physics geek at December 18, 2013 12:01 PM (MT22W)

260 Nobody should be able to serve in Congress just because they were elected. Indeed. It should require some secondary offense, like bank robbery.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 18, 2013 12:01 PM (QupBk)

261 Is Obamacare in the "real" law category?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 18, 2013 12:02 PM (z+4T3)

262 Now I'm starting to wonder if I should find someplace unconnected to me to stash some arms and ammo.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 18, 2013 12:02 PM (QupBk)

263 Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 18, 2013 03:56 Not a problem in the area I have in mind, and I know it well after a dozen visits of some length. Italy and the Bahamas. Not bad, not bad. I just don't want to support this system being run in America anymore. It sucks to feel this way, never would have believed it possible for most of my life.

Posted by: Meremortal, w/funny little hat at December 18, 2013 12:03 PM (1Y+hH)

264 Now I'm starting to wonder if I should find someplace unconnected to me to stash some arms and ammo.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 18, 2013 04:02 PM (QupBk)


----


You can use my house..... I lost all my stuff in the Great Canoeing Tipover Incident of 2009.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2013 12:03 PM (nELVU)

265 241 - Eh. The m16a1 was a notoriously inefficient weapon in the field. When they were replaced by the A2, with its 3 round burst, it was not only less wasteful of ammo, it was much better at killing what was aimed at. However, as rickety as it was, the m203 SAW was a very deadly weapon, and as you say, controlling one's burst was easy to do, if you knew how to handle it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 18, 2013 12:04 PM (vwxsR)

266 I'm an illegal immigrant cause this isn't my country anymore.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 12:05 PM (LSDdO)

267 "Israel. Most folks speak decent English. Warm (except for this winter), great nightlife in Tel Aviv and Eilat. Far from perfect though. Semi-socialist, surrounded by screaming savages and constantly under threat of annihilation."

I spent enough of my life during the Cold War years constantly thinking about blast effects and fallout every time I was near a big city that I am in no hurry to do that again.

Israel is so small that if the balloon goes up with regard to Iranian nukes (said nukes being at this point in my view a _fait accompli_), there will be no place to hide with any hope of survival.

The USA is at risk too, much more than Joe and Jane realize, but the USA is big enough that you can find places within it that you won't worry overmuch about a rogue-state nuclear attack.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2013 12:05 PM (gqT4g)

268 250 Someone upthread mentioned the country of Niue so I took a gander at Wikipedia. Interesting factoid for Niue: The Internet TLD (top level domain) is .nu Another interesting fact: the tiny island nation has shitloads of powerful fiber-optic cables running through it, far, far more than the citizens could ever use. So they rent them to offshore phone-sex companies. Provides a big boost to the economy. It may be a Christian nation, but they're capitalists after all. Until recently there was only one flight a week, from New Zealand. So you couldn't stay less than a week because there was no way to leave. But I hear there's now a second, mid-week flight. I read a travel book where the writer inadvertantly drove the Niue chief of police's car back to his hotel from a bar (it looked just like his rental, and the crime rate is non-existent, so everyone leaves their keys in their car.) The chief of police just came to the hotel the next day to switch cars, laughing about the incident. The writer was like, you can steal the police chief's car here and not even get in trouble. Because...there's nowhere to go. They could have just gone to the airport on flight day to find him if they needed to.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 18, 2013 12:06 PM (7ObY1)

269 Nood.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2013 12:06 PM (qc7at)

270 M203 was the grenade launcher config of M16A2, right? I carried one for a year. My memory can't be that shot.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 18, 2013 12:06 PM (ZshNr)

271 Niue. Pop. 1,400. Nope, not enough women.

Posted by: Meremortal, w/funny little hat at December 18, 2013 12:06 PM (1Y+hH)

272
♪  It's soooo fun.... being an illegal ali-eeeeen..... ♫

Posted by: Phil Collinza at December 18, 2013 12:06 PM (nELVU)

273 Well, I guess it's okay, as long as they understand their civic duties and register to vote and vote early and often.

Posted by: TimothyJ at December 18, 2013 12:07 PM (ep2io)

274 270 - Good grief, I think you are right. I carried a SAW for almost 2 years.. M240? I don't remember!

Posted by: BurtTC at December 18, 2013 12:09 PM (vwxsR)

275 This doesn't really matter because sooner or later a group of terrorists are going to sneak across the border and do some serious damage to the US.  Then she and others will be the first in line screaming for the Fed to enforce the immigration laws.

Posted by: Registered voter at December 18, 2013 12:12 PM (Hdbf3)

276 If you punch holes in the side, I can squeeze into a suitcase.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2013 03:48 PM (VtjlW)

 

Your wish is my command, my queen.  Though since you are teh queen and I merely your devoted supplicant, I'm really the one who should be stuffed in the suitcase. 

 

Or steamer trunk, actually, since I don't think I could foldmy legs up enough to squeeze into a    suitcase.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 18, 2013 12:12 PM (4df7R)

277 I agree with Nancy, only egregious violators of common human decency should be subject to deportation, nor should we restrict deportation to non-citizens, but to all those who plague this country with their continued presence within it's borders.
To that end Nancy should be first in line to be deported.

Posted by: midwestconservative at December 18, 2013 12:13 PM (eFTkY)

278 Now they can collect $1000 a piece in tax credits 4 million times over.

Posted by: joe dagostino at December 18, 2013 12:16 PM (5vRRq)

279

>>You can use my house..... I lost all my stuff in the Great Canoeing Tipover Incident of 2009.

.

.

.I lost everything gun and ammo related in the double Kayak flip of '11.

Posted by: Registered voter at December 18, 2013 12:16 PM (Hdbf3)

280 Could us people from Earth just have the Rockies to say....the Mississippi? You know, the parts you fucking liberals shit on from your private jets,.... on the way to tell us to use 1 square when we shit?

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 18, 2013 12:17 PM (SvoP6)

281 Democrats say that our immigration laws don't work. How would they know? They've never tried them.

Posted by: Socratease at December 18, 2013 12:20 PM (3V4IJ)

282 Ace sez: [W]hen someone guesses "This will appeal to other people," their first guide is what will appeal to they themselves. I.e.: Projection. Nancy Pelosi and her party don't see what's different between an immigrant that comes here legally and one that comes here illegally, whereas most conservatives see a big difference between people who want to be Americans vs. people who want to be foreigners living in America. What it comes down to, I think, is that Pelosi, et al, have no interest in being Americans themselves, aside from enjoying the perks of residency, and see no problem in others who feel the same being here and crowding out those who feel differently. Abiding by laws, protecting the Constitution, valuing freedom, etc. is just a fashion choice as far as they are concerned. No big deal worth getting deported over.

Posted by: Socratease at December 18, 2013 12:28 PM (3V4IJ)

283 275 This doesn't really matter because sooner or later a group of terrorists are going to sneak across the border and do some serious damage to the US. Then she and others will be the first in line screaming for the Fed to enforce the immigration laws. Posted by: Registered voter

They already have.  9/11

And just recently the Boston Bombers.

Conservatives need to call them on this shit, but unfortunately there's a strange strain of libertarian thought on our side that somehow:
 open borders=free enterprise. 

They never seem to realize the next step is a bloated welfare state exploding with 20 million new members of the Free Shit Army.

Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2013 12:32 PM (GW6KR)

284 Help me out here. Democrats don't like free trade because they don't like goods flowing freely across borders because. But they do like people, so long as they're not Canadians, even though they take jobs away from Americans.

Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 18, 2013 12:40 PM (BLAfs)

285 I have no doubt the list of deportation-worthy crimes is a list shorter than Tom Thumb's - whatever. 

Posted by: RM at December 18, 2013 01:21 PM (fRppw)

286

Actually, it is now my considered opinion that if, in fact, some folks of the "furriner persuasion" manage to make it across the border (any border, doesn't matter, just pick one...or maybe more?...) into these presently-united (more or less) States - unless and/or until they commit some actual heinous offense (such as killin', rapin', advanced mopery or, say, running successfully for Public Office) - should they encounter some Public Official (elective <i>or</i> appointed/anointed/crowned/etc.), Law Enforcement-type or similar, be allowed to wend their way further along Life's Path without being unduly distressed by the Tragedy Of Deportation - instead, however, any and all aforesaid Public Official, Law Enforcement-type, etc. should be immmediately (or sooner) deported - forcibly, if at all possible - <i>out</i> of these-here presently(somewhat)-united States across the border of the nearest proximity...

Why, might you ask, this harsh and precipitate action upon the personage(s) of Public Officialdom, Law Enforcement-type-dom, <i>et al</i> such ilk, yet not the "undocumented ingressors"?

Simple enough: Yon unlawful immgrators have - despite some marginal problems, scofflaw-wise, and certain contrary evidence that some would submit, at least <i>the POTENTIAL</i>, in large part, to become, and even remain mostly in good standing as, U.S. citizens in behavior and productive, tax-paying and mostly-law-abiding in basic nature.

Whereas, based upon their behavior before, during and (given the opportunity) after the fact of their non-enforcement of the immigration and naturalization rules and regulations of these now presently(perhaps temporarily)-united States, <i>plus</i> their self-admitted mental attitudes and often-enough behavior otherwise, those aforesaid Public Official-folk, Law Enforcement-type-kinds, etc. & so-on <i><b>DO NOT</b></i> demonstrate <i><b>ANY</b></i> such potential to any useful extent.

Thereupon - it seems like a Good Tradeoff to me...

What say you?

Posted by: J.S.Bridges at December 18, 2013 01:30 PM (VctSv)

287


"Are the Dems really this stupid? When the masses realize we are no longer a nation of laws, but of men -- they DO realize how it ends for them, don't they?"

 

They have been so insulated by the media from the consequences of the lies they tell and the outrageous statements they make, that they have, indeed, become a bit stupid.

 

And Princess Nancy has always kind of been standing out in left field holding a tennis racket. I think this statement may come back to haunt her and the Democrats a bit. It's too perfect not to be used in TV ads. Perhaps coupled with some Obamacare pratfalls, with a tone of  "You're really going to blindly pull the lever for these absolute idiots?"

Posted by: RM at December 18, 2013 01:35 PM (fRppw)

288 1. Being in the country illegally should not relate to deportation. 2. Veteran troops benefits cut so there's more tax money to waste padding the whims of the Brass. And 6000 National Guardsmen terminated from the ranks so as to buy tie-ins to the movie Superman. 3. U.S. Army seeks removal of Lee and ‘Stonewall’ Jackson from memory. Revisionist history would remove portraits of Confederate legends -- Washington Times http://tinyurl.com/n5vn5tx /and as Hillary said of history, it happened a long time ago and so what difference does it make at this point? ...because the US has always been authoritarian; there never was any US Constitution and Bill of Rights. If there had been, we'd be enjoying them today. We're not, so forgetaboutit.

Posted by: panzernashorn at December 18, 2013 01:39 PM (MhA4j)

289 Nanc, kind of like no one should be denied being an elected official from CA just because they are blindingly stupid.

Posted by: Buffalobob at December 18, 2013 03:16 PM (RZBmV)

290 If our laws on immigration are to be ignored, does that mean the next conservative administration will be free to deport Pelosi and her ilk?

Antarctica is a good destination.

Posted by: Lee Reynolds at December 18, 2013 10:02 PM (0bC+U)

291 I love that old country song "Drop Kick Me Jesus Through The Goalposts of Life". Now if I could just tee up Nancy Pelosi's ass on say Alcatraz, I'd drop kick her through the Golden Gate--maybe as far out as the Farallones, and we'll see if she can swim home. There are a lot of great white sharks around the Farallones, but they'll leave her alone through professional courtesy.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at December 19, 2013 07:28 AM (VAche)

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