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April 14, 2013

Natural Conservatives Alert: Hispanic Overwhelmingly Favor Gun Control
— DrewM

Marco Rubio was all over the Sunday shows today fronting for Team Amnesty. I didn't see any of his appearances but I'm willing to bet he didn't mention this little factoid.

In fact, the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Telemundo poll indicates that Latinos are clamoring for stricter gun measures more than most groups in America. According to the poll, 70 percent of Latinos believe that "that the laws covering the sale of firearms should be made more strict," while just five percent believe they should be made less strict and 22 percent believe they should be kept the same.

In case you've forgotten them, here's a handy list of reasons of why amnesty (and yes, it's amnesty) will have zero positive impact for the GOP.

As always, if you want amnesty because you think it's the moral thing to do, fine. Just don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining new GOP/conservative voters.

Posted by: DrewM at 09:12 AM | Comments (88)
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1 It's not raining.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 14, 2013 09:13 AM (ohzX3)

2 Ever notice how the "natural conservatives" crowd tend to be RINOs? Funny that.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 14, 2013 09:15 AM (ohzX3)

3 Rubio is a lying SOB of a banana eater.

Posted by: Attila at April 14, 2013 09:16 AM (Cs2tJ)

4 I'm very disappointed with Rubio over this. He's rewarding law breaking.
What if we all stopped pay taxes? What's the difference? We already have immigration law. If it doesn't mean anything what law does?

Posted by: Iblis at April 14, 2013 09:18 AM (9221z)

5 Funny how all these undocumented conservatives flee the shitholes they're from just to ensure wherever they end up becomes just as shitty as whence they fled. No wonder the libs love them.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 14, 2013 09:20 AM (6BnTn)

6 Rubio was spinning his ass off: It's NOT amnesty. He says that, basically, by the time they are through with illegals, they will have had an easier tie just doing things the right way in the first place.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 14, 2013 09:20 AM (piMMO)

7 Rubio will just become a DemocRAT and all is good for him.

Posted by: TexBob at April 14, 2013 09:20 AM (6S4Ai)

8 easier time

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 14, 2013 09:21 AM (piMMO)

9 I suspect they favor more gun control for everyone but themselves. No amnesty, no new legislation required. Punishing fines for employers who hire those who are breaking the law. Even FDR withheld immigration during the Great Depression. This country is massively screwed until we put Americans (from the USA) back to work.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 14, 2013 09:21 AM (feFL6)

10 Living on the border, even in West Texas, the stupidity of the RINOs on this issue is astonishing. The mojados are the shock troops of the Free Shit Army The entire Texas border area are ruled by Dims. That disproves their whole fucking dumbass theory

Posted by: TejasJudio de la Frontera at April 14, 2013 09:21 AM (lD8ju)

11 He's not a purple peter eater?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 14, 2013 09:24 AM (mGBy8)

12 The politicians want the votes and the ability to recalculate the entitlement forecasts. Right, wrong, good, bad - they do not give a shit. Never have. Never will. Burn, let it.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2013 09:27 AM (71gyQ)

13 And Rubio just glosses over the fact of how unfair this is to people who play by the rules. The illegals are HERE already! They get to enjoy all the benefits of living here, while those who play by the rules wait years to come. My in-laws couldn't even come into the country without having someone sponsor them with a job. And even after they were married here and had children here, my mother-in-law still had to jump through hoops to get her citizenship.
This is wrong.
How come this doesn't address sanctuary cities?
Why are we tolerating this lawlessness?
What do you think would happen to you if you put a lightning link in your AR and they caught you?
No we have to go back to only allowing skilled workers, who speak understandable English in. We have plenty of unskilled unemployed here. We don't need to import more.

Posted by: Iblis at April 14, 2013 09:27 AM (9221z)

Does anybody know WHY Hispanics are going that way?

The facts are pretty clear that gun control runs counter to public safety, with "gun-free zones" having been exposed as shooting galleries where deranged lunatics go to plug away at innocent disarmed civilians, and Chicago being a bloodbath.

The only reason for gun control is pure statism. Are Hispanics statists, or "useful idiots"?

Posted by: Optimizer at April 14, 2013 09:27 AM (Mxt9o)

15 The main group that refuses to follow immigration law will follow gun law? Square that circle for me, Pablo.

Posted by: zsasz at April 14, 2013 09:28 AM (MMC8r)

16 Well, given the what the Hispanics have been teaching us for years now, the solution is to keep breaking gun laws until they give us what we want.

Posted by: zsasz at April 14, 2013 09:29 AM (MMC8r)

17 Illegals vote for more entitlements. Period.

This is about corporate welfare, and cheap workers.

Unrestricted immigration was fine back in the 19th Century, when we didn't coddle the lazy, or coddle people who wouldn't learn the language and culture.

Posted by: Kristophr at April 14, 2013 09:30 AM (wYVte)

18 Hispanics Overwhelmingly Favor More Gun Control Eric Holder must be laughing somewhere. Probably sitting next to Kermit Gosnell who's chuckling over more government oversight for abortion.

Posted by: t-bird at April 14, 2013 09:30 AM (FcR7P)

19 This took decades to grow to where "something needs to be done". As planned. Our Sith Lords are patient.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2013 09:30 AM (71gyQ)

20 That thing I did in your mouth -- it will make your mouth feel fresh. I wonder in what language they asked these 'natural conservatives' the question? If English, was it even understood?

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 14, 2013 09:30 AM (feFL6)

21 Optimizer:

They are from third world crapholes. People in such countries support whoever gives them stuff.

Posted by: Kristophr at April 14, 2013 09:31 AM (wYVte)

Every time I see a debate about what to do about illegal aliens, someone offers the same stupid proposition that if you can't deport 15 million + people, then you simply must legalize them. Why this is is never explained by anyone.

BTW, another question that remains unanswered is...."Who the fuck is Grover Norquist?"

Posted by: Reggie1971 at April 14, 2013 09:32 AM (8cOY0)

23 Mostly mestizo, they come from a culture in which the great masses are tenant serfs, and only the jefes have guns. And they don't trust the jefes. And they've no idea of what the second amendment is or what its intent was. Afraid of the drug gangs, afraid of any authorities, they mostly see guns as the means of oppression used by the bad guys, whether they be the jefes, the gangsters, or the cops. Why would anyone think they would be for guns? No military culture, no hunting culture, no history of having fought for independence and freedom, at least that any of them know of or can remember.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at April 14, 2013 09:33 AM (PH+2B)

24 Yeah, the "natural conservatives" angle is really stupid. You could say the same thing about Catholics, but it isn't true.

Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2013 09:34 AM (WM+rJ)

25 if you can't deport 15 million + people, then you simply must legalize them If you can't collect taxes from 15 million people then you must re-write the tax code so they don't owe any taxes. Same difference.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 14, 2013 09:35 AM (feFL6)

26 OT, but I'm giggling over that Candy Crowley sidebar item.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 14, 2013 09:35 AM (piMMO)

27 Deporting 15 million people in ten years is 4000 people per day. Worth a try.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2013 09:35 AM (71gyQ)

28 Wrong Drew. Amnesty will have a major negative impact.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at April 14, 2013 09:35 AM (qugon)

29 My gun rights got taken away and all I got was this lousy fucking t-shirt

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 14, 2013 09:36 AM (HVff2)

30 Grover Norquist wants to import more Islamists to make his wife happy

Posted by: TejasJudio de la Frontera at April 14, 2013 09:36 AM (lD8ju)

31 Hispanics being indoctrinated in public schools. That's they are going to be even more left wing than you can imagine.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at April 14, 2013 09:38 AM (qugon)

32 Leave Marco Rubio alone!

Posted by: That Crying Guy at April 14, 2013 09:38 AM (JQuNB)

33 Marco Rubio has grown.

Posted by: The MFM at April 14, 2013 09:39 AM (JQuNB)

34 Hey Marco slam down some more wah-wah

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 14, 2013 09:40 AM (HVff2)

35 Norquist wants statehood for Puerto Rico What a stupid dick

Posted by: TejasJudio de la Frontera at April 14, 2013 09:40 AM (lD8ju)

36 Rubio's garbage is now safe, I guess.

Posted by: real joe at April 14, 2013 09:40 AM (PD2ad)

37 Yeah, if you still want a goddam fence, we'll still build a goddam fence. Sure. Whatever.

Posted by: Juan McCain at April 14, 2013 09:41 AM (JQuNB)

38 Deporting 15 million people in ten years is 4000 people per day. If we can abort that many, we can deport that many.

Posted by: zsasz at April 14, 2013 09:42 AM (MMC8r)

39 I know I just came home from church, but after reading AoSHQ, fuckem all to hell every last damn 1 of these rhinos

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 14, 2013 09:42 AM (HVff2)

40 I will gladly give you a secure border in a decade for amnesty to-day.

Posted by: Wimpy at April 14, 2013 09:43 AM (JQuNB)

41 1 It's not raining.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 14, 2013 01:13 PM (ohzX3) It's pouring.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2013 09:43 AM (D00cy)

42 35 Norquist wants statehood for Puerto Rico
What a stupid dick
Posted by: TejasJudio de la Frontera at April 14, 2013 01:40 PM (lD8ju)
Grant them independence.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2013 09:44 AM (D00cy)

43 The Dims want to lower the average IQ of the American voter so they can rule forever Notice how hard a paper trail an engineer from Mexico has to tired versus an illegal gardener with seven kids and a sick grandmother?

Posted by: TejasJudio de la Frontera at April 14, 2013 09:45 AM (lD8ju)

44 Hahahahahha! Suck it, Teabagger bitchez!

Posted by: Marco Rubio at April 14, 2013 09:46 AM (JQuNB)

45 I could still be proven wrong, but if I am not, I would like to the, for the record, that I had Rubio figured out first. Spineless little opportunist.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 14, 2013 09:48 AM (piMMO)

46 Personally I'd waaaaaay prefer to have the Gun Control bill pass than Immigration. Gun control measures can be reversed.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 14, 2013 09:48 AM (UOjzE)

47 Done with Rubio and any other pick and choose ~~conservative cause~~ constitutional right throwing under the bus jackasses.

Posted by: dogfish at April 14, 2013 09:48 AM (nsOJa)

48 I have spent years helping poor Indians in the mountains of South America so yea I feel I know more than John 'Taco Bell Conservative' McCain about this. The central issue in Latin American immigration since the 1960's has been the incentive for countries to export their socially restless economic underclass to the United States primarily Mexico and the Caribbean. Those countries who couldn't export the actual people sought to export just enough to force the social welfare system in the U tied States to absorb the social restlessness primarily the Central American ones. So between the social welfare programs and earned income remittances the United States has been propping up Latin American states and preventing the usual bloody revolutions. It's no coincidence that as Latin immigration has reached a net zero the violence and crime south if the border has escalated. States are losing their ability to export the issues inherent to lacking a social safety net. Nowhere in immigration reform does it dis incentivize countries from depending on the US social welfare model for their stability so of course this is going to keep happening. The Bolivarian revolution has as its core tenet landowners/shopkeepers/kulaks bad and poor migrant classes good. When Marxism is romanticized to beer label levels you aren't winning them over. Repubtards should focus on outreach to non Mexican Hispanics and Asians. That's how you neutralize the Latin vote. Not by committing legislative suicide like this. Electioneering isn't illegal in Latin America so distribute bags of rice with the elephant on it, open medical clinics with conservative literature on the front desk, give actual interviews in bogota and Brasilia. It's too much wrk and requires actual cultural understanding and thought. Things Graham and McCain sorely lack.

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at April 14, 2013 09:49 AM (gkfSV)

49 Rubio just wants the nomination in 2016 In his little brain, scaring the Pubbies with millions of dumbass illegals will get him what he wants.

Posted by: TejasJudio de la Frontera at April 14, 2013 09:49 AM (lD8ju)

50 If Latino's are for gun control, then they should to back to where they came from.

So sick of hearing what group think "Latino" or "Hispanic" want and don't want. People are giving them too much clout and they are enjoying their mythological power.

Posted by: Deli LLama at April 14, 2013 09:50 AM (lGu1O)

51 Why is it that so many latinos who got here legally are willing to sell out their US brethren for illegals latinos?

Posted by: dogfish at April 14, 2013 09:51 AM (nsOJa)

52 ...it's almost as if they don't give a shit about US citizenry.

Posted by: dogfish at April 14, 2013 09:53 AM (nsOJa)

53 Oh and the takeaway from 2012 that should have repubtards terrified is losing Asians so convincingly. They are naturally conservative as far as family, education and responsibility and they are now the largest immigrant bloc in the US. This amnesty does nothing to solve that.

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at April 14, 2013 09:53 AM (gkfSV)

54 Rubio just wants the nomination in 2016 In his little brain, scaring the Pubbies with millions of dumbass illegals will get him what he wants. *** I hope Rand and Cruz eat him alive. Speaking of, Rand posted his take on immigration. I need to go read it. (Fingers crossed he doesn't disappoint.) http://bit.ly/Zj0uRW

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 14, 2013 09:54 AM (piMMO)

55 Okay, not eat him alive. But... I would like to see them be stronger than he on the issue.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 14, 2013 09:54 AM (piMMO)

56 Jeff Sessions is a little bitch.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at April 14, 2013 09:55 AM (JQuNB)

57 48 You're absolutely right. We prop up failed states like Mexico, that can then stay failed, and wind up absorbing a new underclass to form the New Generation of Welfare Voters.

Posted by: zsasz at April 14, 2013 09:56 AM (MMC8r)

58 I'm thinking the nomination field just got thinned a bit.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at April 14, 2013 09:56 AM (JQuNB)

59 Dogfish It's because of the stay and the pull. Most Mexican and Central Americans identify with the home country first and the US second regardless of status. In fact they some nit all are bitter because their families are there and they have to be here with some arbitrary boundaries in between.

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at April 14, 2013 09:56 AM (gkfSV)

60 No, eat him alive, he wants to put the GOP in a circular firing squad, screw Marco rubio

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 14, 2013 09:59 AM (HVff2)

61 58 It would be cheaper if we set up with US tax dollars a safety net in the ten Latin American countries with the highest immigration levels to the US. Hell of a lot cheaper to pay for someone's appendectomy in Reals than US dollars.

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at April 14, 2013 10:00 AM (gkfSV)

62 Steve Sailer has pointed this out (that hispanics generally support left-wing policies) many times. The data has been obvious for decades for anyone willing to look.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 14, 2013 10:00 AM (ZPrif)

63 @ expat, some good thoughts, but ya know doing the same thing over and over expecting different results equals the GOP

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 14, 2013 10:01 AM (HVff2)

Immigration is to Rubio what campaign finance reform was to McCain.

He's betting his life on it and he's too stubborn/naive to see that the consequences will not be good for him or for the country.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 14, 2013 10:02 AM (xSegX)

65 I swear to God, I have had it with the republican party. No more money, ever. No more votes, ever. They have shown themselves to be completely unprincipled and as hungry as democrats for power. They don't give a shit if their capitulation dooms this Country in the long run. They just covet their own jobs. McCain and Romney were the two worst back to backs candidates ever, and we lost because the base didn't turn out. How do they think the base will respond to open borders and screwing 80 million gun owners? They will lose their jobs a hell of a lot sooner than they had hoped. It will be a few years, but senators like Mark Kirk will have destroyed their chance of re-election.

Posted by: Dan in Michigan at April 14, 2013 10:03 AM (2yD4G)

66 #61 All the more reason to remove the incentives and enhance disincentives. ...not double down on anything remotely approaching amnesty.

Posted by: dogfish at April 14, 2013 10:07 AM (nsOJa)

67 You know who the real coward in all this is right now? Reince Priebus, he knows the vast majority of his organization is adamantly against this and yet he says nothing. Wouldn't want to upset the large money givers, who cares if it costs votes.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 14, 2013 10:12 AM (Fz2C7)

68 63 I was born with this awful condition of not being able to comprehend stupid. I get a better response from indians seeing an ipod for the first time than I get from the GOP. You would think at least one of them would take an Eco vacation to the Republic of Reality once in awhile.

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at April 14, 2013 10:12 AM (gkfSV)

69 And what's the logic of doing this now? Why is this a "crisis"? Why can't we wait and discuss? The only people this helps are the libs. The illegals do not share our values. They have no respect for our laws, or our culture. If they did, they'd be playing by the rules.
Rubio is wrong on this. And its going to cost him.

Posted by: Iblis at April 14, 2013 10:15 AM (9221z)

70 Still lost but if a illegal drug user is not caught they have amnesty to the crime of illegal drug use and possession. When they are caught, they get a fine and jail time. Then when released they did not get amnesty for the the drug use. They can go right back to using. When with treatment they can kick that lifestyle and made not to be an illegal drug user.

Still lost on how immigration violation is different but for some reason it is. It is amnesty until they are caught and then they get deportation for the crime with no treatment and way not to be an illegal trespasser. Is the only way to get treatment to not be an illegal trespasser is wait in line in their home country. Is there no punishment that one can do in the US without going home that is not called amnesty. When the are done with the punishment they get a green card that could be revoked and then deported if terms are not followed not citizenship papers with no threat of deportation.

If they removed the quotas and lottery system to get legal status people would not have to wait years to get to the US. They show up at and after a background checks get a green card the same week not 10 years later as the US is maxed on how many legal people are allowed in from said country for said year.

Posted by: Trevor (@tjexcite) at April 14, 2013 10:22 AM (jOPzC)

71
I swear to God, I have had it with the republican party.
Posted by: Dan in Michigan

You're still a Republican? How quaint. That's like old folks who still insist on subscribing to TV Guide.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 14, 2013 10:26 AM (kdS6q)

72 @71 I don't think he said he was a goper, just sick and tired of them

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 14, 2013 10:37 AM (HVff2)

73 To be honest I donate to the GOP, but that is changing. Only select candidates will get my money. And if a rhino is up against a dem I'm staying home

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 14, 2013 10:39 AM (HVff2)

OT -

I originally thought the hype about Kerry's latest was the usual absurd nonsense (WE'RE going to go tell China what to do, and expect them to say "Well, OK, anything for our pals in the US!").

Then I recalled that Kerry and China were on the same side in the Vietnam War, so maybe he'll have a little more sway with them than the usual Secretary of State, after all!

The local news coverage of the event was typically absurd, with one news show describing his mission as "trying to keep the two Koreas from going to war with each other." Yeah, like we need to go over and ask the SOUTH Koreans to please not go to war with their neighbor to the north. ...

I normally never watch that crap - it was kind of a fluke.

Posted by: Optimizer at April 14, 2013 10:40 AM (Mxt9o)

I just saw Larry Kudlow say that we needed more immigrant labor because of so many people leaving the workforce. So the problem of millions of Americans unable to find a job will be solved by introducing millions of workers willing to work for less.

Don't even try to make sense of it.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at April 14, 2013 10:43 AM (8cOY0)

76 Hispanics favor more gun control because it has been so effective in controlling gun crimes in the violence infested hell holes they've fled from.

Posted by: tater at April 14, 2013 11:06 AM (u3N3z)

77 Well, given the what the Hispanics have been teaching us for years now, the solution is to keep breaking gun laws until they give us what we want. Posted by: zsasz at April 14, 2013 01:29 PM (MMC8r) thread winner.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 14, 2013 11:06 AM (qPCAa)

78 If they removed the quotas and lottery system to get legal status people would not have to wait years to get to the US.

Yeah, and then you'd have 10-15 million people a year coming here, and the U.S. would turn into a third world shithole faster than you can say La Raza.

Posted by: Steve at April 14, 2013 11:16 AM (K+XQ4)

79 There is one really, really significant reason why amnesty won't benefit the Republican Party.

The Democratic Party is more supportive of amnesty, wants it to occur faster than even Republican supporters of amnesty do, and more Democrats than Republicans will vote in favor of the amnesty.

So in addition to all the other reasons why Hispanics are currently voting more for the Democrats than for the Republicans, this will add on another reason -- the Democrats will take, and deserve, more credit for the amnesty than Republicans will.

(Oh, by the way, the most Republican segment among Hispanics has tended to be Cuban-Americans. Guess which Hispanic nationality has little need for amnesty, since most of them already have legal status, and isn't likely to have large immigration to the U.S. in the near future?)

Posted by: Joshua at April 14, 2013 11:26 AM (oCZ4e)

80 Did they poll white Hispanics? Betcha they did not.

Posted by: torabora at April 14, 2013 11:55 AM (zYzLv)

81 Well I just watched two of Rubio's clips on Mediaite. Looks like he's going with the John McCain theory of salesmanship, call everyone critical of the plan dumb. "What they don't understand", "what they don't get", etc. etc.
He isn't trying to sell it to conservatives, he's trying to marginalize conservatives. It's fucking pathetic.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 14, 2013 12:10 PM (Fz2C7)

82 Even FDR withheld immigration during the Great Depression. This country is massively screwed until we put Americans (from the USA) back to work. And that won't happen until we eliminate minimum wage, corporate taxation, and the raft of regulations that make survival impossible for small businesses that rely on low-skilled labor. That is the real reason we have so much illegal immigration.

Posted by: rfichoke at April 14, 2013 12:19 PM (CcIvJ)

83 Rubio has lost me on this. If he is the R nominee ever, I'm staying home.

Posted by: waelse1 at April 14, 2013 12:46 PM (k8Vk+)

84 Rubio: Useful Idiot at best.

If he thinks this issue helps the GOP, he's just an idiot. Illegal immigrants are NOT a naturally "conservative" bloc. If he thinks it'll help his presidential aspirations, he's either delusional or a fool. The Progressives/Democrats/"Moderates" will dump him just as fast as they dumped Juan McAmnesty.

So, that leaves us with Misguided Politician (aka Useful Idiot) or Front Man for a Con.

Actually, he's not really a Useful Idiot after all. The Florida Tea Party will, unfortunately, need to try again.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 14, 2013 02:49 PM (eHIJJ)

85 Once again, I have to protest the nonstop torrent of racism in this thread. The bias against our brown friends to the South and our refusal to open our doors to them is overwhelming. Just because they correctly realize the threat posed by privately owned firearms is no valid excuse for you RethugliKKKans to refuse to let them in the country!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at April 14, 2013 03:30 PM (q5k6l)

86 81 Well I just watched two of Rubio's clips on Mediaite. Looks like he's going with the John McCain theory of salesmanship, call everyone critical of the plan dumb. "What they don't understand", "what they don't get", etc. etc. He isn't trying to sell it to conservatives, he's trying to marginalize conservatives. It's fucking pathetic. - Conservatives are overwhelmingly white. Mass immigration and forced integration is ruinous for whites. He's disrespecting people who, due the sort of policy he favors, are a smaller and smaller share of the population and the electorate every year. In the long run the leftist establishment doesn't have to be polite to conservative. They're not planning to reconcile with them, on the theory that "in the long run we all have to live together". They're physically getting rid of them as an identifiable population with its own interests and political preferences. The leftist establishment includes Republicans who want favors from the leftist mass media and socially liberal big donors. That's what this is about. It's about crushing whites demographically, which means forever. And Rubio is in on it.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at April 14, 2013 03:55 PM (S18o5)

87 Look, are hispanics nice people? Yeah. Do they work hard? Hell yes! Do we like them? Well, I do, and I think most people do unless they are bigoted racist jerks. But...that does not change the fact that hispanics overwhelmingly lean quite far to the left on the I like Socialism Scale. It also doesn't change the fact that they do not share the United Statesian habits of freedom, et al. So, as we continue to deal with our poor birthrate by importing immigrants from south of the border, our culture and political values are being altered. I like Mexicans, I do, but I don't want to HAVE to speak Spanish ( I do speak Spanish, btw), and I am quite happy with the constitution they way it is. If I thought Mexico was so great, I'd move there. If immigrants coming here from Mexico thought Mexico was so great they wouldn't be leaving.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at April 14, 2013 05:52 PM (2/oBD)

88 Re: Rubio

Ronald Reagan said his greatest mistake was trusting the democrats to keep up their end of the bargain. He was talking about the federal budget. He got his tax cuts and a promise from the house democrats to cut spending. They didn't do it.

So. Rubio (and friends) are about to repeat that same mistake, trust the democrats to secure the border.

Some people never learn.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 14, 2013 06:50 PM (oDttO)

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