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May 29, 2013

NBC News: Washington DC Higher-Ups Involved in Targeting Scandal
— Ace

Although Lisa Meyers is reporting this at NBC, here's a link to Breitbart.

We've actually known this -- those of us outside the liberal bubble -- for a week. But now maybe a few people inside it know it now too.

Jay Sekulow is a one-time trial lawyer who represented the IRS in tax-exempt cases. Today, though, he represents 27 conservative groups singled out by the IRS. The lawsuit he intends to file includes letters to his clients that come from "Department of the Treasury / Internal Revenue Service / Washington, D.C."
Sekulow told NBC News:

Â“We've dealt with 15 agents, including tax law specialists -- that's lawyers -- from four different offices, including (the) Treasury (Department) in Washington, D.C.,Â” Sekulow said. Â“So the idea that this is a couple of rogue agents in Cincinnati is not correct.Â”

Fifth Amendment Enthusiast Lori Lerner's signature is on the cover letters of many of the partisan inquiries-- and those inquiries continued through 2012.

BTW: Schulman called it perfectly normal to visit the White House 118 times in a two year period.

Know how many times the Bush appointee in his position visited the White House from 2003-2007?

Once.

So 118 times does not seem "normal."

Among the reasons Schulman offered for visiting the White House so much -- he said that one time he was there for the Easter egg roll.

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1 It's a Thread-a-lanche!

Posted by: garrett at May 29, 2013 09:10 AM (sHPLZ)

2 Lois Lerner.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 29, 2013 09:11 AM (g1DWB)

3 No worries, Lincoln Chaffee will fix all this when he switches parties this week.

Posted by: Meremortal, indy since 2007 at May 29, 2013 09:11 AM (1Y+hH)

4 Lois Lerner. Stupid MSM.

Posted by: BuddyPC at May 29, 2013 09:11 AM (jfUIE)

5 Pwned.

Posted by: EC at May 29, 2013 09:12 AM (GQ8sn)

6 "What did the president know, and when did he know it?"

That's the only thing that matters to me.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 29, 2013 09:12 AM (O6Tmi)

7 A few dozen bad apples don't spoil the whole bushel.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 29, 2013 09:14 AM (Hx5uv)

8 Jay Sekulow is a brilliant legal eagle.

Posted by: soothsayer at May 29, 2013 09:14 AM (E1X66)

9 Everything, and from the beginning.

Posted by: lincolntf at May 29, 2013 09:14 AM (ZshNr)

10 N fucking BC is reporting. Hell froze over

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 29, 2013 09:14 AM (R8hU8)

11 Have you seen my shoes? They're fabulous and you will never be able to afford them, plebes.

Posted by: Kathryn Ruemmler at May 29, 2013 09:14 AM (bAGA/)

12 This Liberal Bubble you speak of...would you perchance have the GPS coordinates of its geographic center?

Posted by: SMOD at May 29, 2013 09:14 AM (4I3Uo)

Those lawyers were on Hannity last night. They mean business.

If you're gonna be a damn liar, it helps to be able to tell credible lies that are hard to disprove. I guess they counted on their MSM lapdogs to cover for them. They have, but cracks are starting to show.

Posted by: maddogg at May 29, 2013 09:15 AM (OlN4e)

14 This administration of thugs has used every available tool of government to go after its political opponents. And the MSM has snored through it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 29, 2013 09:15 AM (8ZskC)

15 Fifth or not,the paper trail speaks for itself

Posted by: joe at May 29, 2013 09:15 AM (6gZsu)

16 Has Jay Carney had his inevitable mental breakdown yet?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 29, 2013 09:15 AM (4df7R)

17 Crap. They're gonna make us open an entire Tax Division.

Posted by: Apple at May 29, 2013 09:16 AM (FcR7P)

18 And all hall issa's work,but get gowdy and other prosecutors on the next witness

Posted by: joe at May 29, 2013 09:16 AM (6gZsu)

19 NBC? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Chaz Gibson at May 29, 2013 09:16 AM (8yWf/)

20 Obama and Holder really screwed the pooch when they started spying on the press. It forced the MSM ball-lickers to act, if only to preserve what they like to think is their reputations.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 29, 2013 09:17 AM (8ZskC)

21 Jay Carney is starting to identify with another serial public liar. Move over Baghdad Bob.

Posted by: maddogg at May 29, 2013 09:17 AM (OlN4e)

22 Jay Sekulow is a one-time trial lawyer WTF is a "one-time" trial lawyer? One case? One continuous career?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 29, 2013 09:17 AM (NKBxV)

It would seem that, like the Russians, the IRSS doesn't move without a plan.

Did we get lucky in that they're infested with union drones who must have a clear chain of command, and instructions (typed in triplicate)?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 29, 2013 09:17 AM (0HooB)

24 Is this the time during Sprockets for manic posting?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 29, 2013 09:18 AM (da5Wo)

Schulman called it perfectly normal to visit the White House 118 times in a two year period.

Yeah, that makes no sense to me and never did. Outside of work I can't think of a single place I visit 59 times a year. Maybe the grocery store?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 29, 2013 09:18 AM (4df7R)

26 Foseti's theory (he works in DC) is that bureaucracies resent politicans' interference, and that if Obama had wanted the bureaux to move against the Right they would have been even LESS likely. Might be true of Foseti's office, but the IRS is Obama's vanguard.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 29, 2013 09:18 AM (gWOtP)

27
And please also remember: The targeting has not stopped. Not at the IRS. Not at the EPA, OSHA, DOJ, FEC, FCC or anywhere else.

Anyone who believes it has stopped with these particular Chicago thugs in control has to be purposely obtuse.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 29, 2013 09:19 AM (jKWYf)

28

I think a better way to think of "118 times in two years" is like this: that is more than once a week.

Imagine that at work, you had a weekly meeting scheduled for a period of TWO YEARS. A weekly meeting scheduled at a remote office location. That location being the corporate HQ. This would mean that you were working on something significant, obviously.

Posted by: dan-O at May 29, 2013 09:19 AM (D0bIN)

29 Mark Steyn is subbing for Rush today. He said that Barry's brother's non-profit was approved by Lois Lerner personally and back-dated 2 1/2 years. Barry's brother Malik, who lives in Kenya, and whose addresses are occupied by other people.

Posted by: huerfano at May 29, 2013 09:19 AM (bAGA/)

30 Right now "occam/JEA" is trying very hard to think of something to dismiss or equivocate this.

Posted by: soothsayer at May 29, 2013 09:19 AM (s+8Vv)

31 Ve vere only followink orders.

Posted by: IRSS drones at May 29, 2013 09:19 AM (Hx5uv)

32 This Liberal Bubble you speak of...would you perchance have the GPS coordinates of its geographic center? 1600 Penn Ave., Washington, D.C.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 29, 2013 09:19 AM (NKBxV)

33 You know who else visited the White House 118 times? The Reggie Love clean-up crew.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 29, 2013 09:19 AM (8ZskC)

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 29, 2013 01:19 PM (jKWYf)

Thats right, it has not stopped. Still going on.

Posted by: maddogg at May 29, 2013 09:20 AM (OlN4e)

35 BBoy, One word: Hubris. There likely is multiple paper trails. But the "Smartest People in the Room" TM all thought they were too smart to get caught and even if the were, the MSM would have their backs.

Posted by: Bayou City at May 29, 2013 09:20 AM (8yWf/)

36 Anyway, the best we can say of Obama is that he would never screw a pooch

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 29, 2013 09:20 AM (gWOtP)

37 I love how Every Single Time Lerner's name is mentioned by a lib'rul hack it is preceded with the words "Bush appointee".

Posted by: Nick Shaw at May 29, 2013 09:21 AM (9TMPq)

38

"... I want you to get in their faces"

Posted by: MT Chair at May 29, 2013 09:21 AM (Pr6hk)

39 And please also remember: The targeting has not stopped. Not at the IRS. Not at the EPA, OSHA, DOJ, FEC, FCC or anywhere else.

Anyone who believes it has stopped with these particular Chicago thugs in control has to be purposely obtuse.

***

They need intimidation now more than ever.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 29, 2013 09:21 AM (Hx5uv)

40 How many times has Obama met with each of his Cabinet members? IIRC there were a few who went 6+ months without a single meeting, yet Obama found time to meet with Shulman weekly. Uh, huh, Obama knew nothing about Lerner's shenanigans.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 29, 2013 09:21 AM (aLkUb)

41 Anyway, the best we can say of Obama is that he would never screw a pooch

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 29, 2013 01:20 PM (gWOtP)

Eat, yes. Screw?

...The jury's still out on that one, actually.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 29, 2013 09:21 AM (4df7R)

42 Lori Lerner? Lois has an evil twin? God, that's all we need.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 29, 2013 09:21 AM (7ObY1)

43 I would say "how embarrassing and disgraceful that Lois Lerner is likely a Jew; this embarrasses me," but I'm already so pre-embarrassed by leftist Jews that this means nothing.

Posted by: ParisPaBooooosh at May 29, 2013 09:22 AM (gYzAr)

44 Attempt two at shocked face oo O

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 29, 2013 09:22 AM (9cjF1)

45 be reasonable, those were the amount of Parties i attended at the WH, nothing to do with you silly wingers .

Posted by: shulman at May 29, 2013 09:22 AM (nqBYe)

46 44 Anyway, the best we can say of Obama is that he would never screw a pooch Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 29, 2013 01:20 PM (gWOtP) Eat, yes. Screw? ...The jury's still out on that one, actually. --- I think there's physical evidence of that happening twice, pending DNA testing.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 29, 2013 09:22 AM (zA7Zp)

47 And all hall issa's work,but get gowdy and other prosecutors on the next witness Posted by: joe
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I've said it it before..., I'm hoping that Gowdy is being held in a cage, fed just enough so that he is ravenous, and being poked with sharp sticks. When the right moment arrives...., open the cage.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 29, 2013 09:23 AM (aDwsi)

48 what's scary is .... what if they don't care that there's a paper trail and so on?

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 29, 2013 09:23 AM (QxSug)

49 Anyway, the best we can say of Obama is that he would never screw a pooch Eat it? Yes. Screw it? No.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 29, 2013 09:23 AM (NKBxV)

50 This Liberal Bubble you speak of...would you perchance have the GPS coordinates of its geographic center? Posted by: SMOD We don't want to take the chance of a glancing blow. Use coordinates 0,0,0.

Posted by: t-bird at May 29, 2013 09:24 AM (FcR7P)

51 laughing, i remember when we would think it was possible the progressives would target us because we dissented to their fundamentally transforming america would be considered tin foil-ish.

Posted by: willow at May 29, 2013 09:24 AM (nqBYe)

It doesn't matter if they have signed confessions, nothing is going to happen.

Obama doesn't give a shit. He's been reelected and the press will not turn on him. He can order a blanket pardon to everyone involved and issue an executive order to all government employees to not participate in any further investigations - so that they can get back to the "people's business".

Sure, it's fun to fantasize about officials being frog-marched out of the White House, but that's just not in the cards.

Posted by: jwest at May 29, 2013 09:24 AM (u2a4R)

53 Jay Sekulow also has a radio show, though I don't get to hear it much.

Posted by: Baldy at May 29, 2013 09:25 AM (tyDFN)

54 Get me Barry O'Bumblefucks genu-WINE recipe for smoked ribs! Puff it now you morons!

Posted by: "Scoopy" Mainstream at May 29, 2013 09:25 AM (qxcKC)

Let's keep the pressure up. Moreover, let's make sure the GOP doesn't shy away from keeping the pressure up.

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 29, 2013 09:25 AM (tVWQB)

56 Attempt two at shocked face oo O Works. I wonder if the kids do it this way... :O

Posted by: t-bird at May 29, 2013 09:25 AM (FcR7P)

57 but they now are sorry (they got caught) so It's alright!

Posted by: willow at May 29, 2013 09:25 AM (nqBYe)

58 You know, once upon a time I had the great misfortune of becoming the office expert in Federal Tort Claims Act procedures. Let's just say that sure, sure, sovereign immunity has been waived but there are all kinds of hoops through which you must jump. However, built into the FTCA is a provision that if a determination has not been made on a matter within six months of receipt of all the initial claim form, the claim may be deemed denied and suit filed. Why? To prevent exactly the situation that is going on with the IRS. Oh, we won't deny anyone's application, because that would open up appellate avenues. No, no, no, we'll just sit on the applications and there's nothing that can be done.
And people wonder why I am so cynical about single payer healthcare. Oh, we aren't denying treatment, we are simply reviewing more documentation. That someone dies while that occurs is just an unhappy coincidence.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 29, 2013 09:26 AM (VtjlW)

59 the best we can say of Obama is that he would never screw ~~a pooch~~ the Mooch.

Posted by: Reggie 'Forget The Glove' Love at May 29, 2013 09:26 AM (sHPLZ)

60 >>I've said it it before..., I'm hoping that Gowdy is being held in a cage, fed just enough so that he is ravenous, and being poked with sharp sticks. When the right moment arrives...., open the cage. I've seen reports that Gowdy is actually running this investigation behind the scenes. He's making the recommendations for which witnesses are called when and briefing the Republicans on the committee on what questions to ask. Makes sense. He is slowly and methodically building a very strong case before he gets the really big fish in the crosshairs, just like a good prosecutor would.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 29, 2013 09:26 AM (g1DWB)

Another reason why only trained professional cops should be allowed to have guns.

http://tinyurl.com/pwpuhyu

Posted by: maddogg at May 29, 2013 09:26 AM (OlN4e)

62 Need to send Gowdy some nice AoSHQ gift baskets.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 29, 2013 09:27 AM (lVPtV)

63
Nobody is saying we believe any of these people will be prosecuted, but we feel they should be peed upon. And I happen to urinate on occasion.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 29, 2013 09:27 AM (jKWYf)

64 I am most impressed with Trey Gowdy........so far.............

Posted by: maddogg at May 29, 2013 09:27 AM (OlN4e)

65 And people wonder why I am so cynical about single payer healthcare. Oh, we aren't denying treatment, we are simply reviewing more documentation. That someone dies while that occurs is just an unhappy coincidence.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 29, 2013 01:26 PM (VtjlW)

Sounds just perfect to me you kneejerk reactionary

Posted by: designated jwest comment at May 29, 2013 09:28 AM (LI48c)

66 However, built into the FTCA is a provision that if a determination has not been made on a matter within six months of receipt of all the initial claim form, the claim may be deemed denied and suit filed. Why? To prevent exactly the situation that is going on with the IRS. Oh, we won't deny anyone's application, because that would open up appellate avenues. No, no, no, we'll just sit on the applications and there's nothing that can be done. --- Would this apply to all the drilling companies in the Gulf who have had their permits "under consideration" for roughly 4 years now?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 29, 2013 09:28 AM (zA7Zp)

67 OT:

@jdmullane

Pearl #Gosnell sentenced to 7 to 23 mos prison. Judge Lerner said she benefitted from a "foul operation masquerading as a medical facility."

Pearl #Gosnell sentenced after her children, Alexandra, 15, and son Barron, 21, read statements saying what a great mom she is.

Pearl #Gosnell, wife of infamous Philadelphia abortionist, called her husband "cowardly" for dragging family through trial.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 29, 2013 09:28 AM (X6akg)

68 I just noticed the bombshell nature of this report: NBC News is reporting on it?! The Benghazi whistleblower evidence must be really damning.

Posted by: t-bird at May 29, 2013 09:28 AM (FcR7P)

69 ...for Easter egg rolls and trouncing the constitution but mostly trouncing the constitution.

Top Men.

Posted by: dananjcon at May 29, 2013 09:28 AM (jvd3N)

Sure, it's fun to fantasize about officials being frog-marched out of the White House, but that's just not in the cards.

jwest at May 29, 2013 01:24 PM (u2a4R)

It's not about frog-marching Obaminions out of the White House at this point. It's about following justice and following this thread to marginalize the thugs doing this.

Is Obama going to be impeached? Probably not. But perhaps he can be kept on the sidelines by trumpeting this and, maybe, win the Senate back.

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 29, 2013 09:28 AM (tVWQB)

71 I wonce went to the White House for a hemmwoid tweatment.

It was wonderfully wevolutionary! A 'Dr. Biden' blew them off with 2 blasts.

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at May 29, 2013 09:29 AM (e+kCH)

72 so, I hope that at this point, the GOP realizes that this fucking guy has used every tool in the federal government to harass republicans and conservatives. It's war. Not only should they be going after the IRS, but also those fuckers from the other agencies that harassed the Tea Party groups. And I mean war. Like Breitbart said. The congressional GOP should not focus on anything. I know, I know, there's the whole issue of merging with Mexico* and other Trojan Horse Liberal issues to surrender on, but before we do that, we should focus on the F word in America. * and again, 2012 was a broken glass election, if you recall. That means, we got EVERYONE to vote. And it wasn't enough because Mexico and Somalia also got to vote in a few key swing states. Otherwise, if we hadn't surrendered on changing America's demographics, TFG would have lost worse than Mondale. But whatevers, I'm sure that the GOP will be able to reach out to all the other new "naturally conservatives" coming in from the 3rd world in the next decade, just as well as they did in the last decade.** ** and note that the donkeys successfully made the voting choice very easy for our new brethren.. cough cough race.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 29, 2013 09:29 AM (QxSug)

73 The Carneyval presser in progress:

http://tinyurl.com/8qvvlr5

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 29, 2013 09:29 AM (X6akg)

74 let's make sure the GOP doesn't shy away from keeping the pressure up. It's like pulling teeth to get Republicans to talk about the economy and jobs.

Posted by: soothsayer at May 29, 2013 09:29 AM (/eLjI)

75 Pearl #Gosnell, wife of infamous Philadelphia abortionist, called her husband "cowardly" for dragging family through trial. --- Sucks to be you, bitch. You lived it up for 20+ years married to this monster and working for him.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 29, 2013 09:29 AM (zA7Zp)

Obama, his Cabinet, his flunkies, ass-sniffers, bureaucrats, minions, media lapdogs and brain-dead lo-fo sycophants ..... worthless SACKS-OF-SHIT ?

Never heard of it !

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at May 29, 2013 09:29 AM (tWw6M)

77 Now we just have to hope that Gowdy and company don't "grow in office" by having their families subject to ATF, DOJ, IRS and other friendly agencies.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 29, 2013 09:30 AM (QxSug)

78 Stupid wingnuts. Just because he visited the White House 118 times doesn't mean he met with Obama.

Everybody knows that if you want a meeting with Obama, you don't go to the White House, because he's not there. Instead you follow Air Force One and go to the nearest golf course or bath house.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 29, 2013 09:30 AM (SY2Kh)

79 >> Lois Lerner. And no "c" in Shulman. But forget it, he's rolling.

Posted by: Andy at May 29, 2013 09:30 AM (rt5Xa)

Of course the orders came from higher up. Some low-level person doesn't dream this up on his own and keep it running for months. Supervisors would be asking why his files never close and would want to see his work. And then would come the explosions.

So the higher ups ordered it and being the higher ups they could sign off on all of the irregularities witht ehfiles, just long enough for it to work.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at May 29, 2013 09:31 AM (hLRSq)

81 17 Fifth or not,the paper trail speaks for itself
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That's what I keep saying: Where's the subpoena for all relevant documents under threat of contempt?

Lerner may claim the Fifth and dress in a smug confidence the media will cover for her.

But Low-Level Employee #32465 charged with contempt may be quite a bit more forthcoming.

(Oh, and I've seen this "most IRS employees are good people" line trotted out. Bullshit. Because not fucking one ever came forward.)

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 29, 2013 09:31 AM (VjL9S)

82 7-23 months...TOTAL??

Posted by: soothsayer at May 29, 2013 09:31 AM (E7Qlq)

83 66
Nobody is saying we believe any of these people will be prosecuted, but we feel they should be peed upon. And I happen to urinate on occasion.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 29, 2013 01:27 PM (jKWYf)

By "peed upon" you mean they shouldn't get the use of the corporate jet when they take their next job at Apple?

Posted by: jwest at May 29, 2013 09:31 AM (u2a4R)

84 Somebody wake me up when they dig down to the part where the IRS was/is using voter registration lists for targeting individuals.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 29, 2013 09:31 AM (NcPjb)

I believe that the Attorney General should start an immediate investigation.

Either that or a panel of White House experts. Perhaps Jay Carney or that litigatrix gal.

Posted by: Juan "mo time" Williams at May 29, 2013 09:31 AM (MKF5l)

86 >>But forget it, he's rolling. Not like he reads the comments either.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 29, 2013 09:31 AM (g1DWB)

what's scary is .... what if they don't care that there's a paper trail and so on?

From what I can gather, what they did was pretty illegal. The paper trail provides the proof.

Also, the net results of their targeting was to throw a national election by drying up the monies Tea Party groups needed to get their message out. If the lawyers can get enough evidence that Lib/Prog/Com groups were approved in a timely manner and TP groups were deliberately slow-walked, that would make their case for political discrimination.

It appears that this was the case. We are all Chicago now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 29, 2013 09:32 AM (0HooB)

@38

He don't screw pooches. He eats them.

Posted by: Psycotte at May 29, 2013 09:32 AM (Hk10/)

89 81 Stupid wingnuts. Just because he visited the White House 118 times doesn't mean he met with Obama.

Everybody knows that if you want a meeting with Obama, you don't go to the White House, because he's not there. Instead you follow Air Force One and go to the nearest golf course or bath house.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 29, 2013 01:30 PM (SY2Kh)

Does it say he visited Obama those 118 times? My money's on him visiting Ratface.

Posted by: buzzion at May 29, 2013 09:32 AM (LI48c)

90 When do TFG and Mooch leave for Africa?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 29, 2013 09:33 AM (lVPtV)

91 Due to the sequester, henceforth White House Easter egg rolls will be limited to just five per week.

Posted by: The WH Press Office at May 29, 2013 09:33 AM (8ZskC)

92 Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 29, 2013 01:30 PM (SY2Kh)

You have a point... most likely 100+ visits with the puppet master, Valerie Jarrett

Posted by: phreshone at May 29, 2013 09:33 AM (Pr6hk)

93 22Obama and Holder really screwed the pooch when they started spying on the press. It forced the MSM ball-lickers to act, if only to preserve what they like to think is their reputations.

Posted by: Cicero

You're right, MSM are not acting when ball-licking.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 29, 2013 09:33 AM (VLifP)

94 Would this apply to all the drilling companies in the Gulf who have had their permits "under consideration" for roughly 4 years now? Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 29, 2013 01:28 PM (zA7Zp) Nope. Speaking very very very generally, unless there's a deadline provision in the statute, there's nothing to prevent an agency from considering matters or requesting information forever. Hell, even under the FTCA, you have to made sure you used the right form and sent in the right documentation or you'll get thrown out of court and told to go through the administrative process first. There's a reason why I'm all delegation doctrine, motherfucker, do you speak it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 29, 2013 09:33 AM (VtjlW)

95 "This was a very serious leak, a very grave leak" that "put the American people at risk," Holder said. He called it one of the two or three most serious such episodes he had seen since he became a prosecutor in 1976 but did not say specifically how the disclosure of information about the plot had endangered Americans.

So, naturally, Obama's Holder had nothing to do with the subpoenas and targeting of the press. I mean, who in their own job notes the second most significant event in his career and then opts to stick fingers in his ears and completely ignore the event... besides everyone. Naturally.

Our Federal Gov is a criminal enterprise.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 29, 2013 09:33 AM (eHIJJ)

96 51 what's scary is .... what if they don't care that there's a paper trail and so on? Posted by: joeindc44
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They don't care. The ends justify the means. By 'they', I mean all Left/Liberals/Progressives, which include most of the media. The only reason the MSM will mumble something about it is to garner readers/viewers. Philosophically, they are Fellow Travelers, Fifth Columnists.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 29, 2013 09:34 AM (aDwsi)

97 Does it say he visited Obama those 118 times? My money's on him visiting Ratface. Posted by: buzzion at May 29, 2013 01:32 PM (LI48c) Most plausibly deniable administration EVAH!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 29, 2013 09:34 AM (NcPjb)

98 The Carneyval presser in progress: http://tinyurl.com/8qvvlr5 Posted by: Tami at May 29, 2013 01:29 PM (X6akg) Is he crying yet? Someone has to let me know when he starts crying.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 29, 2013 09:35 AM (VtjlW)

My question is, not why does Team Obama lie, but why do they tell such obvious lies that any investigation at all proves as false?

Are they that arrogant that they believe that even if caught in a lie it doesn't matter? I guess that's what having the press in your back pocket will do to you.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at May 29, 2013 09:35 AM (hlUJY)

100 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 29, 2013 01:33 PM (VtjlW)

When people (fools mostly) ask me how I can be a conservative (The children!), I refer them to the abuse of power by unelected bureaucrats. They rarely have any idea what the fuck I mean, which convinces me of their absolute stupidity.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 29, 2013 09:35 AM (O6Tmi)

101 92 I don't always want to read a depressing, defeatist commentor.

But when I do, I read jwest.

Posted by: The Most Interesting Man in the World at May 29, 2013 01:32 PM (OWjjx)

This is nothing.

Wait a few weeks until Ted Cruz takes a position on something that doesn't pass the purity test. Wrists will be slit and garments rendered.

Posted by: jwest at May 29, 2013 09:35 AM (u2a4R)

102 These stories, these documented cases of gov abuse, have all been out there for the reporting for 3 years, I wonder why now they are newsworthy? Oh yeah cause Obama has been safely reelected and it's during the summer far enough away from the next election that no one is paying attention.

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 29, 2013 09:35 AM (nBkIt)

103 Now we just have to hope that Gowdy and company don't "grow in office" by having their families subject to ATF, DOJ, IRS and other friendly agencies.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 29, 2013 01:30 PM (QxSug)

I'm praying that Cruz and Gowdy don't "evolve" in office but remain citizens. I worry about their families and the benign pressure that can be brought to bear on them by a 24/7 Imperial Tsarist bureaucracy convinced that it is motivated by the best of intentions!

Posted by: Weimar Republican at May 29, 2013 09:35 AM (Cnqmv)

104 Someone has to let me know when he starts crying.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 29, 2013 01:35 PM (VtjlW)

Just look for all of the conservative wood. That will be a clear signal.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 29, 2013 09:36 AM (O6Tmi)

105 Is the Easter Egg Roll even on the official visitors list?
No really? Is it? Since it's not a meeting who knows if it is.

I actually laughed when he said that because it was so implausibly stupid of an answer.

Posted by: tsrblke (work)[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 29, 2013 09:37 AM (SW3td)

106 That's what I've been saying too. That the letters are themselves, prima facies ipso facto etc etc ILLEGAL. We don't need these bitches to testify. And I was shocked ... a week ago ... to see these letters for the first time. Now it looks like the tax attorneys did indeed go up and down the food chain, getting signatures, writing to congresscritters...all for naught. No one cared. And this brings me to another larger messaging point about 2012, Mitt made it about Mitt when we had a model for winning the election with Scott Walker taking on excessive union thuggery and public sector spending. If Mitt had known about this and ignored it, then what the hell? It's a perfect platform.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 29, 2013 09:37 AM (QxSug)

107 Barack...little help please...

...I'm running out of fingers and this dike is leaking pretty bad dude.

Posted by: Dutch Boy at May 29, 2013 09:37 AM (/gHaE)

108 I dated a Lori Lerner in high school. Fabulous breasteses, especially in the de rigeur tube top. Ugh!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 29, 2013 09:37 AM (+98Gb)

109 Congress should be opening up investigations on every prosecution put forth by Holder's Justice Department. It has displayed a degree of corruption so deep that nothing it has done to date can be trusted.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 29, 2013 09:37 AM (eHIJJ)

110 Our Federal Gov is a criminal enterprise.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 29, 2013 01:33 PM (eHIJJ)

----

Well .... at least the Mafia has enough business acumen to operate in the black.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 29, 2013 09:37 AM (nELVU)

111 Time to pivot back to jobs jobs jobs?

Posted by: Meremortal, indy since 2007 at May 29, 2013 09:37 AM (1Y+hH)

112 And please also remember: The targeting has not stopped. Not at the IRS. Not at the EPA, OSHA, DOJ, FEC, FCC or anywhere else.

Anyone who believes it has stopped with these particular Chicago thugs in control has to be purposely obtuse.

***

They need intimidation now more than ever.
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The fascist state only knows escalation.

They are getting desperate and any pretext will do.

Remember: All the stuff we thought were crazy conspiracies have become facts with this administration.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 29, 2013 09:37 AM (VjL9S)

113 Posted by: jwest at May 29, 2013 01:35 PM (u2a4R) You're suck a fucking idiot and martyr. But mostly just a fucking idiot.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 29, 2013 09:37 AM (NcPjb)

114 "...garments rendered."

Posted by: jwest at May 29, 2013 01:35 PM (u2a4R)

Huh?

Check the dictionary, fool.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 29, 2013 09:38 AM (O6Tmi)

115 These stories, these documented cases of gov abuse, have all been out there for the reporting for 3 years, I wonder why now they are newsworthy?

Oh yeah cause Obama has been safely reelected and it's during the summer far enough away from the next election that no one is paying attention.

***

The media advances the progressive agenda and now they get to speak truth to power without comnsequence. It's like two, two, two mints in one!

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 29, 2013 09:38 AM (Hx5uv)

116

When do TFG and Mooch leave for Africa?

Don't get all excited. They're coming back.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 29, 2013 09:38 AM (0HooB)

117 The only thing the GOP needs to know is what Breitbart said "war. fuck you." I don't think Boehner is a wartime consigliari.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 29, 2013 09:39 AM (QxSug)

118 So he likes to roll Easter eggs and Republicans. So what's the big deal?

Posted by: dfbaskwill at May 29, 2013 09:39 AM (71LDo)

119 I actually laughed when he said that because it was so implausibly stupid of an answer.
Posted by: tsrblke
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Shulman was flippant throughout the process.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 29, 2013 09:39 AM (aDwsi)

120

Either the Vandersloot (Romney donor) or Gibson (Blackburn donor) cases should have been enough for impeachment if followed through on.

One case of 'abuse of power' is too much. The confimed release of confidential material by IR is far more than enough also.

More popcorn.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 29, 2013 09:39 AM (VLifP)

121 121 The only thing the GOP needs to know is what Breitbart said "war. fuck you." I don't think Boehner is a wartime consigliari. --- I'm not sure Boehner is even a peacetime consigliari. Send him out to Vegas to get fucked up the ass by Moe Green.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 29, 2013 09:39 AM (zA7Zp)

122 51 what's scary is .... what if they don't care that there's a paper trail and so on?
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Then we start casting ballots of a decidedly different nature.

Either that or live on our knees.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 29, 2013 09:40 AM (VjL9S)

123 rendered / rended

.....shhhhhhhhh.... he's on a roll

Posted by: fixerupper at May 29, 2013 09:40 AM (nELVU)

124 When do TFG and Mooch leave for Africa?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 29, 2013 01:33 PM (lVPtV)

Will they be visiting Zimbabwe? Not that Barry needs any pointers on being a commie dictator and turning a country into a 3rd world shit hole

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 29, 2013 09:40 AM (1Jaio)

125 A few dozen bad apples don't spoil the whole bushel.

A few hundred bad apples doesn't spoil the whole dozen. FIFY

Posted by: dfbaskwill at May 29, 2013 09:40 AM (71LDo)

126 I'm praying that Cruz and Gowdy don't "evolve" in office but remain citizens. I worry about their families and the benign pressure that can be brought to bear on them by a 24/7 Imperial Tsarist bureaucracy convinced that it is motivated by the best of intentions! Posted by: Weimar Republican at May 29, 2013 01:35 PM (Cnqmv) I'm picturing that scene in The Insider when Russell Crowe finds a bullet in his mailbox.

Posted by: Mainah at May 29, 2013 09:40 AM (659DL)

127 When people (fools mostly) ask me how I can be a conservative (The children!), I refer them to the abuse of power by unelected bureaucrats. They rarely have any idea what the fuck I mean, which convinces me of their absolute stupidity. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 29, 2013 01:35 PM (O6Tmi) When people do the Head Tilt of Earnestness and go but but but but don't you care about the children and I say "no", it's hilarious. I mean, for me, them not so much. It's even better when I explain that, no, I am not kidding and, no, I do not now nor will I ever care about the children. It's even funnier when it's at church.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 29, 2013 09:41 AM (VtjlW)

128 I also stopped by a few times to house sit Bo. The official dog walker can't be there 24/7 and Barry and Michelle sometimes take vacations.

Posted by: Douglas Shulman at May 29, 2013 09:42 AM (N9thc)

129 I think a better way to think of "118 times in two years" is like this: that is more than once a week.

I was told there would never be math on this blog.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at May 29, 2013 09:42 AM (71LDo)

130 Check the dictionary, fool.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 29, 2013 01:38 PM (O6Tmi)

Oh, God. I typed rendering instead of rending. I'm so ashamed.

And I worked on that comment all morning.

Posted by: jwest at May 29, 2013 09:43 AM (u2a4R)

131 Normal is as normal does.

Posted by: Forrest Shulman at May 29, 2013 09:43 AM (Hx5uv)

132 The discovery process is going to be fun, no?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 29, 2013 09:43 AM (659DL)

133 Then there was that time I stopped in to borrow a cup of sugar.

Posted by: Douglas Shulman at May 29, 2013 09:44 AM (N9thc)

134 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 29, 2013 01:41 PM (VtjlW)

Try suggesting that the market would have been better for our public health than the FDA.

That's fun.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 29, 2013 09:45 AM (O6Tmi)

135 The official dog walker . . . . Posted by: Douglas Shulman at May 29, 2013 01:42 PM (N9thc) Annnnd there's the ragestroke.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 29, 2013 09:45 AM (VtjlW)

136

You knee jerk reactionaries just don't understand sitting around here in your echo chamber.

You're not like me, making an effort sacrificing my time, being insulted for my conservative purity by defending liberal policies just because an R signed onto them.

Posted by: jvvest at May 29, 2013 09:46 AM (LI48c)

137 -- he said that one time he was there for the Easter egg roll.

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That's Easter Eggrolls.... made by Chinese Christians. They're delicious. Cant put em down. Went back for seconds.... alot.

Posted by: Doug Shulman at May 29, 2013 09:47 AM (nELVU)

138

Try suggesting that the market would have been better for our public health than the FDA.

Also try saying that teh Chillun's should be free.

Heh, I'd love to stand next to you while you said that at church. Apoplexy is highly amusing to onlookers.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 29, 2013 09:47 AM (0HooB)

139 We are all Chicago now. Stand back when I start capping me some bitchez!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 29, 2013 09:47 AM (cB3Ay)

140 The mailman is always accidently putting Barry's mail in with mine. I usually just take it over to him rather than sending it back through the post office.

Posted by: Douglas Shulman at May 29, 2013 09:47 AM (N9thc)

141 Can we go back to a time, like when Bobo was bowing and scraping before heads of state? You know, when he was just an embarrassment to the country, instead of a destructive force?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 29, 2013 09:48 AM (NcPjb)

142 Obama could only meet with his Nat Sec team to receive his briefing less than 43% of the time, during wartime, and with attacks & thwarted attacks occurring in the Continental US, yet he meets with the IRS at least once a week for two years? Someone needs to compare frequency of his meetings with various Cabinet-level appointees.

Posted by: Baldy at May 29, 2013 09:48 AM (tyDFN)

143 OT but wondering if anyone else is an Edward Jones customer and received the very interesting email today re interest rates going up. Basically a "DON'T PANIC" message wrapped around a what goes up must go down (stock market) message all tied up with a "its been a pleasure to serve you" bow.

EJ is a very conservative, very conscientious operation. This email was from the managing partner. I think they know something is going to happen and that it will be happening soon---and are trying to keep their customers calm.

Cousin Jack Daniels will be keeping me calm.

Posted by: farmersusie at May 29, 2013 09:48 AM (ydb8s)

144 After giving up in disgust and getting Malia's pre-Algebra homework completely wrong, Obama then said, "Where's Shulman? Get that goddamjew back here to help Malia." At that's how I understand it.

Posted by: Doug Shulman at May 29, 2013 09:48 AM (Zv1QB)

145 Nothing to see here move along...

Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 29, 2013 09:48 AM (9+ccr)

146 Try suggesting that the market would have been better for our public health than the FDA. That's fun.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 29, 2013 01:45 PM (O6Tmi)

I can already see the lefties, who love sharing "I fucking love science" posts, arguing with no evidence that the market would have done worse, and that the best job is done by non-profit organizations. [citation needed]

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 29, 2013 09:48 AM (v3pYe)

147 Perhaps he went to the Greek Orthodox Easter egg rolls too///

Posted by: phoenixgirl....in Maui phoenixgirl@phxazgrl at May 29, 2013 09:49 AM (Il1iB)

148 136 The discovery process is going to be fun, no? Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 29, 2013 01:43 PM (659DL) Oh oh pick me pick me! (raises hand) Obama will claim executive privilege and turn over nothing, the media will not tell people that means he had specific contacts with the people by definition of claiming that, and allow him to give speech after speech claiming no knowledge of it. Just like Fast and Furious documents which supposedly Obama and holder knew nothing about but claimed executive privilege on and didn't turn over without heavy redaction. And his fool voters will buy it.

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 29, 2013 09:49 AM (nBkIt)

149
There was that one time when Barack and I played band camp and whoops my "clarinet"......

Posted by: Dougy Shulman at May 29, 2013 09:49 AM (jKWYf)

150 Is it time yet?

Posted by: The Kraken at May 29, 2013 09:49 AM (/gHaE)

151 87 Somebody wake me up when they dig down to the part where the IRS was/is using voter registration lists for targeting individuals.
============
That's the shark behind this fin.

Because there is an activity log of each file. And many of those logs show the assigned agent pulled an inter-agency or intra-agency information request on the persons named in the application and the names of persons illegally requested to be produced.

That's where the real nastiness of this goes and that's what happened.

That's why the fucking paper trail is so damned important: Get the complete file of both Tea Party and progressive groups!

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 29, 2013 09:49 AM (VjL9S)

152 130 I'm picturing that scene in The Insider when Russell Crowe finds a bullet in his mailbox. Posted by: Mainah at May 29, 2013 01:40 PM (659DL) Fantasy scene: Gowdy/Cruz take the bullet and chamber it in a 30.06.... Speaking of Cruz/Gowdy.... 2016.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 29, 2013 09:49 AM (+98Gb)

153 Never go full Jwest. Never...

Posted by: [/i]akula_51 at May 29, 2013 09:49 AM (YesJa)

154 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 29, 2013 01:45 PM (O6Tmi)

I'm actually sorta of two minds on this.
The existence of several rich hucksters like Kevin Trudeu and the guy in Texas with his anti-neoplastics (intentionally misspelled and obfuscated because they love to run Google searches and get sue happy) seem to point in the opposite direction on that one.

Medical treatment is really freaking weird.

Having said that, the FDA is horribly constructed and concentrates power in far to little of a footprint, which leads to the oddities like remarkably slow approval of generics. Also it's getting easier and easier to manipulate rendering it less and less useful. (Heck I finished a case study a few years back where they accepted a drug even knowing a chunk of the data was made up whole cloth.)

Posted by: tsrblke (work)[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 29, 2013 09:49 AM (SW3td)

155 Carney jumped the shark today. He is defending what AG said to congress about never being involved in prosecuting journalists. Carney will have to go under the bus with the AG.

Posted by: USA at May 29, 2013 09:50 AM (VIaw0)

156 NBC - Only a Week Behind

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 29, 2013 09:50 AM (0HooB)

157 I mean, for me, them not so much. It's even better when I explain that, no, I am not kidding and, no, I do not now nor will I ever care about the children. My standard line? "If I wasn't present for the wet, sloppy sex in making them, don't expect me to care about them now".

Posted by: rickb223 at May 29, 2013 09:50 AM (cB3Ay)

158 One time I came by to see about purchasing a bust of Winston Churchill in response to an ad in Craigslist.

Posted by: Douglas Shulman at May 29, 2013 09:51 AM (N9thc)

159 In fairness, I'd figure Obama has thrown at least 118 swanky soirees every two years, so if dumbfuck Schulman is on the A list, - it's boogie time!

Posted by: Fritz at May 29, 2013 09:51 AM (UzPAd)

160 Are Easter eggs even halal in the Barky WH?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 29, 2013 09:51 AM (lVPtV)

161 But did you see where obama took out another Al Qaeda "deputy" with his own personal drone? Al Qaeda which he says doesn't much exist anymore?

Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 29, 2013 09:51 AM (9+ccr)

162 Carney will have to go under the bus with the AG.

I just had a lift kit installed.

Posted by: The Bus at May 29, 2013 09:52 AM (/gHaE)

163 Meanwhile the Dean of Harvard is resigning and going back to teaching. After it came out she ordered the emails of other deans and professors to be searched over a cheating scandal.

http://tinyurl.com/p2nafwl

I am pretty sure Gaylord Focker can find a job for her.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 29, 2013 09:52 AM (khd7K)

164
.... well.... there are at least three Doug Shulmans that I know of....

Posted by: Jay Carney at May 29, 2013 09:52 AM (nELVU)

165 We didn't have a smoking gun (like, let's say, a slew of lengthy IRS questionnaires chock full o' illegal questions sent to conservative groups) before the election so it didn't matter back then. And guess what! It's Summertime 2013 and voters aren't paying attention (like during the Fall of of an election year), sooooo.... it's too late to make any political hay out of it now! It's probably better for the GOP to just shut up about this and Benghazi and all of the other purported Obama "scandals", lest the party be portrayed as a bunch of partisan Bachmann type crazies. The GOP needs to cut its losses and run.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 29, 2013 09:52 AM (tOkJB)

166 Carney jumped the shark today.

He is defending what AG said to congress about never being involved in prosecuting journalists.

***

I did not lie when I said I did not kill my wife. The bullet killed her. I merely pulled the trigger.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 29, 2013 09:53 AM (Hx5uv)

167

Syria's heating up. I expect something to happen on the foreign front to distract the MFM from all of this. McCain and Kerry aren't using jazz hands for nothing.

Oh, and McCain, Boehner, McConnell and other establishment repubs have their hands in this just as deeply as Dear Leader's regime. They'll all be searching for a distraction.

Posted by: Soona at May 29, 2013 09:54 AM (85lop)

168 Â“We've dealt with 15 agents, including tax law specialists -- that's lawyers -- from four different offices, including (the) Treasury (Department) in Washington, D.C.,Â” Sekulow said. Â“So the idea that this is a couple of rogue agents in Cincinnati is not correct.Â”

Go after 'em and make their names public. There may or may not be a case, but when abuse of authority is this flagrant, letting them off without any sort of challenge does nothing to discourage others from doing the same thing.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at May 29, 2013 09:54 AM (vd7A8)

169 Are Easter eggs even halal in the Barky WH? Bacon isn't but something out of a chicken's ass is?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 29, 2013 09:54 AM (cB3Ay)

170 Perhaps he went to the Greek Orthodox Easter egg rolls too///

Posted by: phoenixgirl....in Maui phoenixgirl@phxazgrl at May 29, 2013 01:49 PM (Il1iB)

And don't forget all those muz prayer sessions!

Posted by: Weimar Republican at May 29, 2013 09:54 AM (Cnqmv)

171

I think a better way to think of "118 times in two years" is like this: that is more than once a week.

I was told there would never be math on this blog.

Probably just meeting with some low level flunkies that never told the boss he was even there. Is Obama even at the WH one day a week? He has such a busy schedule what with all the golfing, photo ops at the Jersey shore and Monroe, OK, parties with Jayzee and Beyonce and those endless speeches and fundraisers. I think that the frequency of Schulman's visits definitely gives Obama plausible deniabilty.

Posted by: runningrn at May 29, 2013 09:54 AM (PLOz8)

172 Is it really so unusual that the President of the United States needs his shoes shined 118 times in two years?

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 29, 2013 09:55 AM (Hx5uv)

173 167 Meanwhile the Dean of Harvard is resigning and going back to teaching. After it came out she ordered the emails of other deans and professors to be searched over a cheating scandal. http://tinyurl.com/p2nafwl I am pretty sure Gaylord Focker can find a job for her. --- She's stepping down to her old job as professor of some kind of "victim studies" major, so she's not doing a whole lot to pull down her paycheck.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 29, 2013 09:55 AM (zA7Zp)

174 Bacon isn't but something out of a chicken's ass is? --- Muslims eat goat and you know what many of them do with it.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 29, 2013 09:56 AM (zA7Zp)

175 Lois Lerner is Obama's current IRS enforcer.

Lori Lerner was his mermaid IRS enforcer.

And Lana Lerner was his IRS enforcer in high school. Back in Smallville, Kenya.

Posted by: tsj017 at May 29, 2013 09:56 AM (4YUWF)

176 38 Anyway, the best we can say of Obama is that he would never screw a pooch

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 29, 2013 01:20 PM (gWOtP)

Well yeah - he would - and then he'd eat it.

Posted by: TiminAL at May 29, 2013 09:56 AM (1aLkV)

177 It's probably better for the GOP to just shut up about this and Benghazi and all of the other purported Obama "scandals", lest the party be portrayed as a bunch of partisan Bachmann type crazies. The GOP needs to cut its losses and run.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 29, 2013 01:52 PM (tOkJB)

I disagree. All the scandles should get as much press and attention as possible. Every conservative should spend every waking minute telling everyone they know.

However, if anyone thinks someone is actually going to be held responsible and lose something in the process, they will be disappointed.

Posted by: jwest at May 29, 2013 09:56 AM (u2a4R)

178 Now it looks like the tax attorneys did indeed go up and down the food chain, getting signatures, writing to congresscritters...all for naught.

No one cared.
==========

Oh, Boner cared. He saw a chance to stab the Tea Party with someone else's knife.

"Those fucking upstart, amateurs need to know their place."

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 29, 2013 09:56 AM (VjL9S)

179

147OT but wondering if anyone else is an Edward Jones customer and received the very interesting email today re interest rates going up. Basically a "DON'T PANIC" message wrapped around a what goes up must go down (stock market) message all tied up with a "its been a pleasure to serve you" bow. Posted by: farmersusie at May 29, 2013 01:48 PM (ydb8s)

I'm with Edward Jones. I was about to delete the e-mail when I read your post. Opened it up and read it. I'd agree it read like someone trying to soften a blow. I think we're going to see a market "correction" sometime in the not so distant future. I'm still fairly young so (hopefully) in the long run it'll work out. I'd be more worried if I were shortly about to be or were retired.

Posted by: land of sky blue water at May 29, 2013 09:57 AM (JoIcn)

180 I'm actually sorta of two minds on this. The existence of several rich hucksters like Kevin Trudeu and the guy in Texas with his anti-neoplastics (intentionally misspelled and obfuscated because they love to run Google searches and get sue happy) seem to point in the opposite direction on that one.

Medical treatment is really freaking weird.
...
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at May 29, 2013 01:49 PM (SW3td)

The existence of real problems does not make gov't a good solution.

FDA is more of a placebo than a cure. Is there a chance we could structure a gov't agency that could do the job right? Perhaps - but the track record is that bureaucracies do not have the incentives to do the job they're supposedly doing.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 29, 2013 09:57 AM (v3pYe)

181

"I did not lie when I said I did not kill my wife. The bullet killed her. I merely pulled the trigger."

That totally makes sense to me!! As everyone knows, guns and SUV's kill more people than any other entites known to men!

Posted by: Tree Hugging Gun Control Nut at May 29, 2013 09:57 AM (PLOz8)

182 Jay Carney and jumping the shark.

There is this image of Jay Carney on this red bicycle with these little tassels on the handlebars. He is making an obnoxious laughing sound. He peddles madly down the ramp and then he is on the up ramp. Next he is catching air traveling to land on the other ramp. Below him is a pool with hungry sharks, the water is red with chum, and you can see each shark is tagged ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, and Fox. He is still laughing like an obnoxious twit. The he is abruptly silenced in mid-snort as this giant shark tagged 'The People' leaps into the air and swallows Jay and his bicycle whole.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 29, 2013 09:57 AM (khd7K)

183 One time I came by to see about purchasing a bust of Winston Churchill in response to an ad in Craigslist.

Posted by: Douglas Shulman at May 29, 2013 01:51 PM (N9thc)

----------------------------------------------

I thought it was a bundt of Winston Churchhill.

Posted by: Soona at May 29, 2013 09:57 AM (85lop)

184 "I did not lie when I said I did not kill my wife. The bullet killed her. I merely pulled the trigger." That totally makes sense to me!! As everyone knows, guns and SUV's kill more people than any other entites known to men! --- "She would have died anyway!!! Well, in another 30 or 40 years..."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 29, 2013 09:58 AM (zA7Zp)

185

scandles = scandals

For those anal about spelling today.

Posted by: jwest at May 29, 2013 09:59 AM (u2a4R)

186

Pearl #Gosnell sentenced after her children, Alexandra, 15, and son Barron, 21, read statements saying what a great mom she is.

---

See, Kermit does let a few babies survive.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 29, 2013 09:59 AM (SO2Q8)

187 A question the Bard never pondered.

"Is it better to be anal or to be annealed? That is the question."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 29, 2013 10:00 AM (khd7K)

188

scandles = scandals

I prefer the Villages, myself!

Posted by: Dancing Drunk Joe Biden at May 29, 2013 10:00 AM (PLOz8)

189 Hey, I deliver pizza on the weekends. Barry likes his with brie, prosciutto, and arugula.

Posted by: Douglas Shulman at May 29, 2013 10:01 AM (N9thc)

190 I love how Every Single Time Lerner's name is mentioned by a lib'rul hack it is preceded with the words "Bush appointee".

Posted by: Nick Shaw at May 29, 2013 01:21 PM (9TMPq)

Perhaps when one refers to her it should be Democrap Lois Lerner. Bush was making nice nice and reached across the isle. See how that worked out?

Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at May 29, 2013 10:01 AM (bj+Nc)

191 I had a good time with that when we were realtime casting the testimony Ace....

"dedicated egg enthusiast"

I think leaving 118 easter eggs at the guys' house would make a point...

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 29, 2013 10:01 AM (LRFds)

192 Our Federal Gov is a criminal enterprise.

Your point being?

Posted by: [/i]Eric Holder Atty Sgt Shultz Dept of Justus at May 29, 2013 10:01 AM (ylhEn)

193 193 Hey, I deliver pizza on the weekends. Barry likes his with brie, prosciutto, and arugula. --- He'll also never turn down a 12" sausage.

Posted by: Reggie love at May 29, 2013 10:02 AM (zA7Zp)

194 The IRS letter I saw, think it was to the voting group, was signed by Mitch Steele. Wonder why he hasn't been called to testify.

Posted by: slatz at May 29, 2013 10:03 AM (mE0Rl)

195 It is time to re-post this link to a piece in The Onion. Sure it's satire...., but spot on. "Media Having Trouble Finding Right Angle On Obama's Double-Homicide" :
http://www.theonion.com/articles/media-having-trouble-finding-right-angle-on-obamas,2703/

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 29, 2013 10:03 AM (aDwsi)

196 New thread up.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 29, 2013 10:06 AM (oY6Yp)

197 194 I love how Every Single Time Lerner's name is mentioned by a lib'rul hack it is preceded with the words "Bush appointee".
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I've asked for a citation on that, and never received one. I do not doubt that Lerner went to work for the IRS (or some Fed agency) during Bush's tenure...., but did he personally select her for a job? Until there is some evidence, I reject the assertion as empty.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 29, 2013 10:07 AM (aDwsi)

198 #183 land of sky blue water

I just retired but had not planned on touching my savings for a while----and will just hunker down for the next several years and see what happens. All the best to you and so glad you have enough time to recover from the misery we know is coming. I looked at this email (have never in all these years gotten one from the top guy) and thought Wow. This means "soon".

Posted by: farmersusie at May 29, 2013 10:07 AM (ydb8s)

199 I had a bit too much to drink one night and accidentally gave the cab driver the wrong address.

Posted by: Douglas Shulman at May 29, 2013 10:10 AM (N9thc)

200 "Wrists will be slit and garments rendered."

"Oh, God. I typed rendering instead of rending. I'm so ashamed.
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Actually, you typed "rendered" which should have been "rent".

Posted by: Grammar Nazi at May 29, 2013 10:11 AM (/WYQ0)

201

jwest at May 29, 2013 01:56 PM (u2a4R)

I think Ed's point is that the window for the IRS malfeasance having actual effect against the Administration passed in October 2012.

Some of us were pooped on in the morning thread for wondering why this couldn't be a campaign issue for 2012 if congresspeople were issuing a bunch of questions/requests for information about it even a year or so ago. Hence Ed's post...per Gabe and others, we apparently didn't have evidence before the 2012 election, and now it's apparently futile to pursue this since no one will be held responsible.

So what, exactly, *is* the threshold for action...?

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 29, 2013 10:12 AM (eytER)

202

202 Posted by: farmersusie at May 29, 2013 02:07 PM (ydb8s)

All the best to you as well. I'm hoping the letter wasn't a full blown Animal House "Remain Calm, All is Well"!! type deal. But I think they see what's coming down the pike and want people to be prepared and not act rashly or stupidly when the inevitable results of this administration's economic chickens come home to roost.

Posted by: land of sky blue water at May 29, 2013 10:13 AM (JoIcn)

203 205 John Tant,

for the GOP we have to have a case so solid that matlock would blanche at defending the guy....

the donks bar is a little lower

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 29, 2013 10:14 AM (LRFds)

204 Reggie Love signed in using Schulman's name. Mystery solved.

Posted by: Roberto Luongo at May 29, 2013 10:14 AM (NHNJt)

205 Steyn is covering the WH visits now. Should be a glorious smackdown!

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at May 29, 2013 10:14 AM (UU0OF)

206

PMS-NBC

The network that dares not speak its name

Posted by: Arms Merchant at May 29, 2013 10:15 AM (5RUlF)

207 "Fifth Amendment Enthusiast" is rich!

Posted by: Arms Merchant at May 29, 2013 10:15 AM (5RUlF)

208 I'm a pacifist, but my SUV has a gun.

So... Those GSWs with the tire tracks over them? Not my fault.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at May 29, 2013 10:20 AM (/lWM8)

209 I won. What do you mean I don't get to do what I want?

Posted by: King Choom I at May 29, 2013 10:21 AM (5RUlF)

210 Targeting Scandal, the other kind when police use old men for target practice, shoot to kill the guy in his own yard. Woodhaven Country Club, East Ft. Worth, TX [Mr. Waller, a grandfather who armed himself before checking on his neighbor's alarm, was shot and killed in his own driveway by Fort Worth police responding to a burglary alarm. Â“We heard five shots,Â” (the witness) Haskin recalled. They were just rapid fire one after the other.Â” Fort Worth police Cpl. Tracey Knight said, Â“Officers felt threatened by the man with the handgun and he was shot.Â” The two officers involved were not hurt and have been placed on administrative leave.] Worth a bet, these policemen did not announce themselves and order the old man to drop his gun and identify himself before they killed him with five shots. Not one, two or three. But FIVE. Is that because they missed their target? The old man would likely have fallen with the first shot, whether he was hit or not. So where did those bullets end up penetrating? Through a window, wall, car, tree or lawn since no other report of injury. Count blessings, only one shot dead accidentally on purpose. If the police didn't identify themselves before shooting him down, did he return fire?

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 29, 2013 10:25 AM (MhA4j)

211 Lerner was appointed by her boss, Steven Miller, not George Bush.

Posted by: jd at May 29, 2013 10:55 AM (HuzS0)

212 and, here, I have a link. http://tinyurl.com/l8h4omw

Posted by: jd at May 29, 2013 10:56 AM (HuzS0)

213 So has anyone seen or heard Valerie Jarrett lately?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 29, 2013 01:16 PM (MdAAk)

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