December 31, 2013
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Posted by: naturalfake at December 31, 2013 05:31 AM (KBvAm)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 05:33 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 05:33 AM (GaqMa)
She should be hounded off the air.
Make them live up to their supposed standards.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 31, 2013 05:34 AM (Xkr8I)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 31, 2013 05:35 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Stu-22 at December 31, 2013 05:36 AM (KbrNh)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 05:36 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: AMDG at December 31, 2013 05:37 AM (t7OO0)
The leftÂ’s barking seals will fabricate any excuse to earn their fish. Obamacare is a disaster from beginning to end. A point I make with my new parody video:
A Day In the Life (under ObamaCare)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oo-JOikE-M
Yep. Maroons all the way....
Posted by: backhoe at December 31, 2013 05:38 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 7th day of Christmas at December 31, 2013 05:38 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at December 31, 2013 05:38 AM (Qev5V)
Posted by: RWC at December 31, 2013 05:39 AM (fWAjv)
.Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 05:41 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 31, 2013 05:42 AM (QVuWn)
Activist singer-songwriter Ani DiFranco has canceled plans for a retreat at a former plantation near Baton Rouge after heated online protests about the venue.
Three days and four nights of songwriting and performance workshops had been scheduled in late June at Nottoway Plantation and Resort in White Castle, about 20 miles out of Baton Rouge in Iberville Parish.
She explained that "when i found out it was to be held at a resort on a former plantation, I thought to myself, 'whoa'...."
And then another 1.300 words of hem wringing.
http://tinyurl.com/n2fzbmp
Also:
The retreat, priced at $1,100 for tent campers and up to $2,000 per person for those staying in the resort...
Smash capitalism -- right after you hit the vegan breakfast buffet.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 31, 2013 05:42 AM (kdS6q)
I think we could do with more write offs like those to be rescinded.
In fact, I would say that looking at them, they mostly look like handouts to particular constituents and as such should never have been allowed.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 05:43 AM (LSDdO)
If laughing at them is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Posted by: HeideRadieschen at December 31, 2013 05:43 AM (nMYaa)
Posted by: AMDG at December 31, 2013 05:43 AM (t7OO0)
Posted by: ontherocks at December 31, 2013 05:44 AM (5tSu+)
Posted by: Hop Sing, cook and cattle rustler, babysitter and bottle washer. at December 31, 2013 05:45 AM (nieyS)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 09:43 AM (LSDdO)
Comrade, you are not supposed to notice things like that.
Remember when individual serfs were able to deduct state sales tax on the federal form. Good times.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 31, 2013 05:45 AM (o3MSL)
Life is risk, and just because you understand "a" of an activity does not mean you get a risk-free stab at "b" in an activity....
sympathy for the family.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 05:46 AM (TE35l)
Are you NEW?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 05:46 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 05:46 AM (GaqMa)
She explained that "when i found out it was to be held at a resort on a former plantation, I thought to myself, 'whoa'...."
Truly deep thinking, that. Worthy of a Kant.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 31, 2013 05:46 AM (zF6Iw)
15:"No, you were definitely callous. One can make a point without being an asshole about it."
I don't think the word asshole means what you think it means. Seems like a textbook case of Darwinism.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 05:47 AM (OJn3e)
"and improved"....
venom is our sugar and bittery lemon is our water....
when life hands you idiocy make lemonade.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 05:47 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 05:47 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 31, 2013 05:48 AM (QVuWn)
Posted by: huerfano at December 31, 2013 05:49 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 05:49 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: naturalfake at December 31, 2013 05:49 AM (KBvAm)
right...
"global climate disruption"
of course coincidentally they are all like Charlie Brown esq being followed by his own rain cloud....
the ice is chasing them
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 05:49 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 05:50 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 31, 2013 05:50 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 05:51 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: ontherocks at December 31, 2013 05:52 AM (5tSu+)
Crotchety Old Jarhead being, well....crotchety
Imagine that.
For the record, I share pretty much the same sentiment.
Prayers for the family aside.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 31, 2013 05:52 AM (teMpq)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 31, 2013 05:52 AM (bb5+k)
Ummmm . . . .. I may be mistaken here.... but I seem to recall that Melissa Harris-Perry's own Mother is....... white.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 31, 2013 05:53 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 05:53 AM (cB3Ay)
What bothers me is that someone once thought those dishes up and said "This should taste good".
I mean the Scots have Haggis but that's an outlier. Japs eat stuff that could have parasites because they DON'T COOK IT!!!1!!!!!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 05:54 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: fixerupper at December 31, 2013 09:53 AM (nELVU)
I bet there's all kinds of conflicting self-and-mommy hatred going on.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2013 05:54 AM (DrWcr)
It seems to me that if Hopium and Unicorn farts are the energy of the future we should put a tube rather than Reggie Love's manhood up the Royal Posterior and the entire BosWash Megalopolis could be powered at a minimum....
Be a rebel get off the grid.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 05:54 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 05:54 AM (N/cFh)
Maybe build that fence on the border that never gets built."
Potential growth industry, using arrested illegal aliens..
And Irony.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 31, 2013 05:55 AM (teMpq)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 09:54 AM (LSDdO)
At least haggis is cooked...
Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2013 05:55 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: naturalfake at December 31, 2013 05:55 AM (KBvAm)
This error in judgment got passed along to the next generation.
I think that qualifies as genetic stupidity.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 05:55 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 31, 2013 05:55 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Brandon in Baton Rouge at December 31, 2013 05:56 AM (4eDvT)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 31, 2013 05:56 AM (60Vyp)
See and not trying to be an asshole contrarian for its own sake I am of the opinion that to be truly dangerous a person must have "some knowledge" of a field because total ignorance usually means you have at some level a raw respect for a task...
had they both been novices likely no incident, had they both been skilled likely no incident but the mix of an artificially emboldened novice coupled with an apprentice's knowledge led to tragedy...
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 05:56 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Future Illegal Immigrant at December 31, 2013 05:56 AM (OPg+h)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 31, 2013 05:57 AM (bb5+k)
Melissa is correct, and I have reliable information from a source I'm unable to disclose, that Governor Romney made the black baby ride atop the car in the animal carrier with the dog. Truth!
Posted by: Martin "The Truth" Bashir at December 31, 2013 05:57 AM (pJF+c)
OR put him on top of the station wagon with the dog.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 05:57 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 05:58 AM (GaqMa)
45: "I do not know all the specifics of this case, but I would lean towards an error in judgement before I assumed a genetic component of stupidity."
Walking through Compton while wearing a Mr. T neckalce set is an error of judgement.
Diving in a cave with an uncertied diver is plain stupid. Diving in clear open water is dangerous enough without compunding the risk with unnecessary foolishness. Dad was certified. he knew those risks, but ignored them.
Some errors are self-correcting. This is life. This used to be known.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 05:58 AM (OJn3e)
Want something scary to think about? Imagine her and Hank Johnson breeding. Thank goodness they're both too old.
Posted by: Laura Castellano at December 31, 2013 05:58 AM (luhCM)
Posted by: ontherocks at December 31, 2013 05:58 AM (5tSu+)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 31, 2013 05:59 AM (zF6Iw)
No, you were definitely callous.
Posted by: Bean Pies
[Another diver] said their dive computers and air gauges indicated both had descended to 233 feet and that they had run out of air — Sanchez first, apparently, because his father had deployed a long breathing hose that allowed his son to breath from his tank.
Brooks speculated that they were racing to get back to their spare "safe" tanks placed at about 130 feet and nearly made it. Spivey's body came to rest next to those tanks.
That didn't mean they would have been home free. Because of the depth they'd reached, the pair would have needed about an hour to decompress, rising slowly enough so the air didn't form bubbles in their blood. They didn't appear to have adequate air in their tanks for that process, Brooks said.
Also, diving to that depth requires a mixture in which helium replaces some of the nitrogen in the air. That helps minimize the narcotic effect of nitrogen that gets stronger at depths beyond about 100 feet. Brooks said Spivey and his son were using simple compressed air.
http://tinyurl.com/p83hz67
So, Poppa made every single error possible by not respecting the danger inherent in what he was doing, and killed himself and his kid.
Callous? Objective.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 31, 2013 05:59 AM (kdS6q)
I humbly accept your praise, as I said to a degree my crypticism is a work of art.
I just got a point across that the NSA sniffer booleans will never decipher.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:01 AM (TE35l)
As I said in previous thread, but bears repeating:
MHP's only mistake was saying in public what she truly believes in private.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 31, 2013 06:01 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: huerfano at December 31, 2013 06:02 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 06:04 AM (cB3Ay)
The Dem process is "Listen to what I say, don't remember what I do!".
Unfortunately, it seems to work!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 31, 2013 06:04 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at December 31, 2013 06:04 AM (a5ljo)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 06:04 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 31, 2013 06:05 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 10:04 AM (cB3Ay)
And you still need to be aware of the risks even then!
Posted by: Michael Douglas at December 31, 2013 06:05 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Martin "The Truth" Bashir at December 31, 2013 09:57 AM (pJF+c)
I'd still shit in all their mouths.
Posted by: Martin Bashir at December 31, 2013 06:06 AM (DrWcr)
Lighten up D
And his Son IS the next generation.
So I'm right, you're wrong. I win.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 06:06 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 06:06 AM (VtjlW)
77:"Pro tip: Unless you are a trained professional, stick to muff diving."
As a load master on my plane found out one trip to Thailand, this is not always the safer option.
Gargling an antibiotic cocktail for seven days is no way to spend a 14 day channel run.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 06:07 AM (/qzu7)
>>[Another diver] said their dive computers and air gauges indicated both had descended to 233 feet and that they had run out of air — Sanchez first, apparently, because his father had deployed a long breathing hose that allowed his son to breath from his tank.
.
.
.233 Feet? Insane. Recreational divers using regular compressed air have a bottom limit of ~130-160 feet and you only have about 5 minutes bottom time with the required decompression stops on the way back up. His recklessness killed them both.
Posted by: Registered Voter at December 31, 2013 06:07 AM (MZGhy)
Posted by: mindful webworker - HAPPY NEW YEAR! at December 31, 2013 06:07 AM (6B4ha)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 31, 2013 06:08 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 31, 2013 06:08 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 06:08 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Michael Douglas at December 31, 2013 06:09 AM (zF6Iw)
Yup, RESPECT for your tools, the tasks you face, and your own luck/competence/judgement....
I have a lot of respect for the people who knew what they were doing and the limits and risk window like Kittinger, Knievel, Yeager, etc etc than people who simply say "hold my beer and watch this"...
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:09 AM (TE35l)
Has anyone seen/heard the spouse/mom for these guys?
Maybe it was the only way they could get away.
(see. Now THAT was callous.)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 06:09 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: naturalfake at December 31, 2013 06:10 AM (KBvAm)
Darwin is a stone cold bitch!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 31, 2013 06:10 AM (o3MSL)
I will argue that the danger was not obvious
Posted by: D-Lamp
Knowing the depth limits for your training, equipment, air and mixture is Diving 101 stuff. No responsible diver, especially one leading a less experienced diver, would overdive.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 31, 2013 06:11 AM (kdS6q)
Those are poor, LIV stations.
Yeah.
Because she can lie so willingly and maliciously--and get away with it!--is why I am firmly of the belief that the national GOP is perfectly happy being the #2 party on America.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 06:11 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 06:11 AM (N/cFh)
No. I'm sorry. This wasn't "taking a risk".
The MATHEMATICS were against them.
Simple calculations would have shown them that they wouldn't have enough air to return.
So this was GENETIC STUPIDITY. Passed from Father to Son.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 06:12 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 31, 2013 06:12 AM (bb5+k)
82: "Again, I see no evidence that the man's death was the result of genetic stupidity as opposed to ignorance of the nature of the danger he was in."
I must repsectfully call this bullshit. Dad was certified. He most certainly knew the risks and dangers. He chose to ignore them.
Initial open water training is chock full of lists of what you DON'T do.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 06:12 AM (LJpVo)
"Credit for energy efficient appliances, which will save the government $700 million over the next 10 years."
liberal thinking at it's best: making people pay more in taxes will save the government money.
Posted by: Mallfly at December 31, 2013 06:12 AM (bJm7W)
Oh God, our help in ages past -
Our hope for years to come...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZsJu-jkuMI
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 06:13 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 31, 2013 06:13 AM (85x54)
Posted by: Mallfly at December 31, 2013 10:12 AM (bJm7W)
Why it's almost like the liberals control the very language we try to use to discuss topics rationally!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 31, 2013 06:14 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 06:14 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 06:15 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 31, 2013 06:15 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 06:15 AM (GaqMa)
Nice I was unaware you had that skill, you could make cash if you mastered underwater engineering in all likelihood.
I have a layman's appreciation of the art, and I have snorkeled I would respect my limits enough not to go into a cave lightly if I ever pursued the hobby.
I have reloaded a "bit"...I am an avid marksman, I do not think my knowledge as a purchaser of ammunition means I am qualified to push the limits of a weapon's metallurgical limits by taking the SAAMI specs right to the edge on a weapon I feel I can't bear to lose.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:15 AM (TE35l)
Reminds me why I am firmly in the "fuck NR and the horse they rode in on" camp.
Right from the get-go he accepts and repeats the leftist's characterization of Phil's comments.
Fuck you, you bunch of naval-gazing, whining, vichy, pansy-ass bitches.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 06:15 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 31, 2013 09:46 AM (zF6Iw)
Methinks you spelled a word wrong there, Chief.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2013 06:15 AM (60Q+L)
Posted by: naturalfake at December 31, 2013 06:16 AM (KBvAm)
Posted by: nnptcgrad at December 31, 2013 06:17 AM (nND1S)
Pro tip: Unless you are a trained professional, stick to muff diving.
Watch out for the big snappers. They bite.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 31, 2013 06:17 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 06:17 AM (N/cFh)
Yea, but the guy who finishes last in his class at the worst medical school in the country is still called "doctor".
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2013 06:18 AM (70Unk)
Eliminate the words "race" and "racist" from my hearing and seeing. I refuse to play this game anymore.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 06:18 AM (P6QsQ)
And here I thought Omalizumab was simply one of the most terrifying of the Old Ones.
It's good to hear that at least he'll cure your cat allergies before he eats your soul.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 31, 2013 10:16 AM (KBvAm)
Omalizumab is my bitch.
Posted by: Nyarlathotep at December 31, 2013 06:18 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 31, 2013 06:18 AM (8xOfO)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 31, 2013 06:18 AM (V3kRK)
Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 06:19 AM (MMC8r)
Life is an intelligence test. Many fail it.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 31, 2013 06:19 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at December 31, 2013 06:19 AM (3ZtZW)
"According to the Hernando County SheriffÂ’s Office, Spivey was a certified diver; however, he was not a certified cave diver. Sanchez was not a certified diver."
Here's a link to a story that has a photo of the warning signs scattered around the site.
http://tinyurl.com/pxxhgec (that's CBS Tampa Bay)
Can we agree that the Father ignored the warnings, exceeded his expertise, took an inexperienced diver along and failed to follow numerous check lists that divers are taught (and he was a certified diver but not a certified cave diver) before certification?
I submit that that's a STUPID act, sir.
(And genetic because he passed his stupidity on to his son. Directly.)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 06:20 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 06:20 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, shhh, be a little quieter, some of us are trying to sleep. at December 31, 2013 06:20 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 06:21 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 31, 2013 06:21 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: John McCain at December 31, 2013 06:22 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 31, 2013 06:23 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 31, 2013 06:23 AM (VUDJK)
Posted by: Jenny Kind of Likes Her Phone at December 31, 2013 06:23 AM (5JhS+)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 06:24 AM (GaqMa)
121:"Yea, but the guy who finishes last in his class at the worst medical school in the country is still called "doctor"."
True enough. But the guy who finished last in med school learned enough to know that he shouldn't be doing remote neurosurgery when he hasn't even finished his basic internship.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 06:24 AM (/qzu7)
86 Crony capitalism Vic. It's an "investment" when the money goes to a pal. It's a "loophole" when the money goes to an enemy.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 31, 2013 07:40 AM (V70Uh)
In all seriousness, if a candidate can gather up enough of these little gems and then use them in speeches and debates, I think he/she would have a shot at making a good many low info voters become somewhat info voters.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 31, 2013 07:42 AM (olDqf)
That is the type of zinger that Reagan used against Dhimmi Carter and Mondale and they never had a retort for it as RR just peeled off the LIVs in large numbers. There's a lesson there for Rove and Top Men; one which they always fail to understand.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 31, 2013 06:24 AM (n4eIH)
Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at December 31, 2013 06:24 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: tmitsss at December 31, 2013 06:24 AM (7Rx8v)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 31, 2013 06:25 AM (V3kRK)
3) Bored housewives.
I'm not making that up or intending to be dismissive. Several studies found a high percentage of housewives who described themselves as "looking for something to do"
Unfortunately, that "something to do" ends up being divorcing their husbands, taking their house, their money, their kids, and half their stuff.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2013 06:25 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 06:26 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: John McCain at December 31, 2013 10:22 AM (Pr6hk)
Go blow a diseased goat, you feculant nicklefucking Dem-felcher.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 31, 2013 06:26 AM (zF6Iw)
Heh.
another case of "we love socialism, we just never thought it would affect us" about to come in to play.
In a lot more areas, too.
See, socialism can zombie on so long as there is a large middle class to leach from.
But, there are no more middle class in NY--it's the exact "income inequality" they've projected on everyone else but at ten-times that level right there in their own little hell-hole.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 06:27 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 31, 2013 06:27 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 31, 2013 06:28 AM (7ObY1)
So this was GENETIC STUPIDITY. Passed from Father to Son.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 10:12 AM (LSDdO)
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Dive tables. How do they work?
This guy screwed up from the word go. 233 feet down on straight air? Dumbassery. Fatal dumbassery.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at December 31, 2013 06:28 AM (u1jJP)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 06:28 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 31, 2013 06:28 AM (8xOfO)
The pool boy, or the business partner, the milkman, the mailman, etc.....
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 10:28 AM (cB3Ay)
Yeah, that too.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2013 06:28 AM (DrWcr)
Anyone who's an experienced, certified recreational diver knows full well how dangerous cave diving is. They also should know damned well that 233 feet is way too deep as well. I consider myself a fairly experienced diver (although I haven't dived in years) and I don't recall ever going deeper than about 130-140 feet.
That guy knew better, and his horrible judgment got himself and his kid killed.
Posted by: radar at December 31, 2013 06:29 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 10:20 AM (VtjlW)
Agreed. I worked with a guy who was big into cave diving. He did it every weekend he could and spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on it. When asked about the danger, he would just shrug and say, "I fully expect to die in a cave because my luck will have run out. But, I won't care because I died doing what I love." He quit that job to move closer to another part of the country for new caves to dive. He had done all the ones he cared to in this part of America, most more than once. I don't know if he was a case of Darwinism at work or just sheer adrenaline addiction.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, shhh, be a little quieter, some of us are trying to sleep. at December 31, 2013 06:29 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 10:19 AM (MMC8r)
**********
Tell me about it.....
Posted by: Huma Abedin at December 31, 2013 06:29 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 06:29 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 31, 2013 06:29 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 06:30 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 31, 2013 06:30 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 06:30 AM (VtjlW)
The pool boy, or the business partner, the milkman, the mailman, etc.....
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 10:28 AM (cB3Ay)
Stacy's mom has got it going on.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 31, 2013 06:30 AM (zF6Iw)
Sweeping Changes To The ArmyÂ’s Tuition Assistance Program Beginning January 2014
http://tinyurl.com/ortblr9
Soldiers will be eligible for TA upon successful completion of 1 year of service, following completion of Initial Military Training (IMT).Soldiers are eligible for a post bachelorÂ’s degree after 10 years of service. There is no 10 year requirement if TA was not used for the initial bachelorÂ’s degree.Each year Soldiers are covered for up to 16 semester hours per year at the maximum rate of $250 per semester hour.
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2013 06:31 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 06:31 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 31, 2013 06:33 AM (60Vyp)
164: "Disgusting."
Force shaping takes many forms. Expect a significant decrease in enlistments over four years.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 06:33 AM (OJn3e)
Partially it is just reality catching up to the TA program....
I don't know a lot of soldiers who aren't flatbacking who are gapped the time for much more than 16 hours of coursework safely.
My opinion of course is that the entire endeavor is simply a way to fund the FSA supporting higher education system on DoD's dime.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:34 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2013 06:34 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: NCKate at December 31, 2013 06:34 AM (Auy5s)
Shackelton's team, back in 1917-ish, burned penguins for warmth. True story.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket
Wouldn't that set the TV on fire?
How do you keep them lit?
Don't they just run out and jump into the Antarctic?
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2013 06:35 AM (DL2i+)
sounds a lot like my hindisight appreciation of HazMat work...
we're all very eclectic beasts here.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:35 AM (TE35l)
>>>That dumb list claims to be only visible onscreen bodies or deaths. That's how they are getting around including anything by Emmerich or any war movie. Hell, any of the super hero movies.
But 13 ASSASSINS !!1!
which is like total onscreen sword death crazy bloodbathiness but with subtitles
Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at December 31, 2013 06:35 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Jenny Kind of Likes Her Phone at December 31, 2013 10:23 AM (5JhS+)
Darwinism doesn't speak to any benefits to the species as a whole that might arise from the death of an unfit individual. It simply states that the unfit are less likely to survive and breed.
In this case, Dad was clearly reckless. I'd say his negligence was such that it would be considered criminal, has he survived, and the kid not.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2013 06:35 AM (60Q+L)
Posted by: NCKate at December 31, 2013 06:36 AM (Auy5s)
Quite right.....
Sonny Bono was able to survive climbing Mt Cher for how many years and he met an untimely kinetic end....
expertise in area a does not preclude idiocy in area b...
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:37 AM (TE35l)
I used to go abalone diving on the North Coast of CA in sometimes 1' visibility. The trick was to extend your arm with the abalone iron pointing down so you didn't bang your head on the bottom.
The good thing about that visibility is that you never saw the great whites hunting the sea lions.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 31, 2013 06:38 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 10:37 AM (TE35l)
Bullshit.
Posted by: Paul Krugman at December 31, 2013 06:39 AM (QFxY5)
My SCUBA instructor for my first level was a cave diver trainer. He was called to recover bodies in Florida and Mexico that nobody else could get to. It pissed him off to no end.
Our first day of class, he put our gear around our tanks, strapped the weight belt to it, and threw it to the bottom of the 15 foot pool. Then, he told us to dive in, and not come up until we had assembled the gear and put it on properly. Every diver that passed his class has become advanced or a divemaster.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 31, 2013 06:39 AM (sBUAE)
I think both names should be considered as coming from men famous for getting punched in the head a lot.
Posted by: Epobirs at December 31, 2013 06:39 AM (bPxS6)
Genetic:
of or relating to genes or heredity.
Hereditary:
conferred by or based on inheritance.
Inheritance:
To receive from an ancestor
Ancestor:
a person from whom one is descended
so. TECHNICALLY he inherited this particular stupid act from his ancestor, his father.
GENETIC.
*if you have to explain a joke, either it wasn't too good or your audience is obtuse*
I'll go with not too good. OR obvious apparently.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 06:39 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 06:39 AM (VtjlW)
Amazing, isn't it?
Posted by: HeideRadieschen at December 31, 2013 06:41 AM (nMYaa)
Quite the contrary Krugaton ineptness in area A is often an indicator of ineptness in area B....
it's math baby
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:41 AM (TE35l)
Because there just are too few civil servant GS 13-15s in EPA, DOI, DOT etc. etc. making coffee and counting the hours until lunch at 120,000.00 per year.
We should, of course, begin by cutting education benefits to the <20k year buck private .
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2013 06:41 AM (5ikDv)
Nothing in life is ever how you imagine it will be.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 06:42 AM (LSDdO)
Many Florida caves have padlocked gates, where a properly certified cave diver can get a key. That helps to keep out the untrained. Unfortunately, there are hundreds of caves in Florida, and many are accessible to anyone who wants to tempt death.
I go into shipwrecks all of the time, and have helped to rescue lost divers, but I generally avoid caves.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 31, 2013 06:42 AM (sBUAE)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 06:42 AM (VtjlW)
It is still technically the Yule...
I will grant you the gift of asking if you really want exposed to the depth of the pools of bile and rage I have at the GS-13+s and the inverted assfucking of the force?
Shall we open this box Pandora?
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:43 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 06:43 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 06:44 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 06:45 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 31, 2013 06:45 AM (VUDJK)
Posted by: NCKate at December 31, 2013 06:45 AM (Auy5s)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 31, 2013 06:45 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: fluffy at December 31, 2013 06:45 AM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 31, 2013 06:46 AM (R1kbQ)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 06:46 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 31, 2013 06:47 AM (naUcP)
How many people understand the season on that level anymore?
Most I know think the holiday ends tomorrow.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:47 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: NCKate at December 31, 2013 10:47 AM (Auy5s)
True. It also sucks
Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2013 06:48 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 06:48 AM (cB3Ay)
In the sense Hillary! suffers from an inverted cycle and is happy every 28 days I am a festivus celebrant for 363 days a year I'd suppose.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:49 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 06:49 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 06:50 AM (GaqMa)
>>Oh hey that brings up like the entirety of Hong Kong historical epics.
I know!! Its like that list is all rayciss against the srant-eyes
Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at December 31, 2013 06:51 AM (3ZtZW)
Ah yes....a guild.
That's smacks of the nanny state.
Posted by: Paul Krugman at December 31, 2013 06:51 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 06:52 AM (VtjlW)
and as Ms10077 says a cute ginger to boot eh?
No, you are correct it is not technically a technicality but I do fear the critical mass of idiocy has been reached.
I recall the first time I was exposed to the mental health profession being told that insanity was failure to meet the moral and legal expectations of the majority.....
it always seemed to me a flawed paradigm, but it also meant if ever 50.0000000001% of a populace decided cannibalism was appropo the only logical answer was to grab a leg or run like hell.
I am preparing to run like hell.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:52 AM (TE35l)
They deliver yard waste in your town?
Maybe that's why they have budget problems....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 31, 2013 06:53 AM (QFxY5)
189:"Shall we open this box Pandora?"
Oh yeah? Well mine is bigger than yours....
My GS-13 boss is married to a retired E-9 who is now also a GS-12. After returning from the recent one week furlough (also known as a paid vacation to us NAF employees), she actually mentioned in our staff meeting that she hopes congress gets it together because she can't afford another furlough.
I'm a medically retired E-6 with a NAF job, and my wife doesn't work. And yet we seem to be doing ok.
Go figure.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 06:53 AM (v6cwT)
Shall we open this box Pandora?
The allegorical box just got emptied on my oldest sons head. Hence my sarcasm and bitterness.
My statement was meant as an ironic example, fueled by all too personal, current experience.
I know your feelings on the subject, sven, and we agree. I would like to see the NoVA GS take some cuts now that they have successfully elected a criminal Governor of VA.
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2013 06:53 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 06:56 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 31, 2013 06:56 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 31, 2013 06:56 AM (naUcP)
They all act as though there is no tomorrow.
My foster brother the SES is near that level of paycheck to paycheck.
Yet somehow we crack on on an E-7 and my purposefully subpeak earnings.
Indexing expenditure to income and grasping the difference between discretionary and necessary expenditure who does that anymore?
The Sub E-8 community that's who.
Happy Holidays
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:56 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Jenny Kind of Likes Her Phone at December 31, 2013 06:56 AM (5JhS+)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 06:57 AM (cB3Ay)
I know, and you and your son both have my sympathy.
If I ever do get "Moron Estates" going I do fully intend it to be a literal Galt's Gulch on a micro scale.
All the best to you and yours.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:57 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 31, 2013 06:58 AM (SwHqo)
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 31, 2013 06:59 AM (VUDJK)
a joke and thought process at least as old as human language I'd wager.
All the best to you and yours Rick
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 06:59 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 06:59 AM (EWsrI)
It seems to me as though that movie list, if it is going by body count, should have included "The Longest Day".
Posted by: Former Lurker at December 31, 2013 07:00 AM (4hp6w)
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 07:01 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 07:01 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: Jenny Kind of Likes Her Phone at December 31, 2013 10:56 AM (5JhS+)
And wouldn't taking actions likely to put one's own offspring at risk of death not likely be the ne plus ultra of Darwinian unfitness?
"Hold my beer, son, and watch this!"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2013 07:01 AM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 07:01 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 31, 2013 07:02 AM (naUcP)
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What about a guy who graduates last from West Point?
Posted by: John McCain at December 31, 2013 07:02 AM (VjL9S)
Festivals/Holidays/Celebrations at the end of the year (winter equinox where the sun starts back north in the north) are meant for one thing and one thing only; party time.
Crops are in, repairs made, fields prepared, food processed etc.
You now know you face 2-3 months of cold/snow/possible starvation.
So you have a big party and get drunk, get laid, get in a fight with that a'hole down the road who gets on your thungas. See your kids make friends, show off, become liked, become hated, become stupid.
Then when it's all over you go back and sit in the hut/cabin/igloo/shed/shack and wait for spring thaw hoping that you've got enough food and heat making supplies to last until then.
(note the year end festivals predominate in northern cultures due to the weather. I don't know about the southern hemisphere due to lack of historical data. but even the Romans had their fun.)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:02 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 07:02 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: Jenny Kind of Likes Her Phone at December 31, 2013 07:02 AM (5JhS+)
There was a case of this in action on Sunday when we were without power.
Leaving Ft Jackson to go to the Evil W for some shopping and to get away from the fallow house we saw an idiot in a SUV shed a wheel that bounced literally down the road three blocks at a high rate of speed.
Only the paucity of traffic when the catastrophic failure struck prevented a fatality.....
the idiot had to have ignore the deterioration of his tie rods and/or wobbling noise from missing loose lugnuts for a spread of time...
that apathy/idiocy would have killed someone had it occurred a week later...
now on the stupidity/daring front wife ridiculed me for the glint in my eye saying I wanted to run and catch it.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:03 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: baldilocks at December 31, 2013 07:03 AM (36Rjy)
When I (finally) finished my undergrad, I was hitting 23 per semester and it still took 2 years to finish even with a 2.5 year headstart.
The article estimates that it would take 3.3 years to finish a 2 year associates degree @ 16 hrs per year.
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2013 07:03 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 07:04 AM (GaqMa)
You weren't last John. You couldn't even distinguish yourself by doing that.
You were 894 out of 899.
And THIS, THIS is what we had to vote for instead of Choom Boy.
And I quote myself. "How do we manage to vote for this turd in a punch bowl".
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:04 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 31, 2013 07:04 AM (60Vyp)
Ironic, I have a Russian Step-Grandmother rest her soul who converted from Orthodox to Catholicism.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:04 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Fox2! at December 31, 2013 07:05 AM (cHwSy)
Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 07:06 AM (EWsrI)
239: "now on the stupidity/daring front wife ridiculed me for the glint in my eye saying I wanted to run and catch it."
Pre or post "beverage"?
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 07:06 AM (LJpVo)
239 You have NO IDEA how many people are driving around with half their lugnuts.
I see it daily, and sleep no better for it
Posted by: DAve at December 31, 2013 07:07 AM (b7yum)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 31, 2013 07:08 AM (naUcP)
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heh
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 07:08 AM (P6QsQ)
Fewer laws, less welfare, no handouts.
You screw up, you die.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:08 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 07:08 AM (VtjlW)
14 years "post"...
I do not need beverages to be an idiot...
the imbibement simply increases the frequency of the incidents....
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:08 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 31, 2013 09:35 AM (60Vyp)
No, you were definitely callous. One can make a point without being an asshole about it.
Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at December 31, 2013 09:38 AM (Qev5V)
Are you really whining about an old Marine telling it like it is? Here?
Posted by: baldilocks at December 31, 2013 07:10 AM (36Rjy)
251:"Three EMP devices. Then the crop we've been sowing comes to harvest, and God help us all."
Hmmm. I wonder if banks keep hard copies of mortgage documents anymore? If not, this would be a good thing neh?
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 07:10 AM (f6ZLT)
Actually I sort of did. I did some wrecking/recovery work in Louisiana.
Ponder it, it is easily a knowable, the attrition of performance has to be able to be felt and yet we still have this state of being....
b/c
"derp" and "here Grim Reaper hold my beer and watch this..." we get morons and not our kind of Moron who do such wonders.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:10 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 07:11 AM (EWsrI)
DLG -22 USS England
DLG -21 USS Gridley
Both scrap now I believe. (the originals. There's a new Gridley I think)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:12 AM (LSDdO)
258 Hey Baldi!!! Happy New Year!!!
I'm thinking of changing my nick. Any suggestions?? Hasta be short (3 or 4 letters MAX)
Smug pretenscious asshole tho accurate is not a contender
Posted by: DAve at December 31, 2013 07:12 AM (b7yum)
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 31, 2013 07:13 AM (VUDJK)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 31, 2013 10:45 AM (naUcP)
Look, I am just quoting the guy. He was clearly as nutty as they come. He was both adamant and belligerent about expiring that way--so be it. He knew it would be unpleasant at the end, but, he was OK with going out that way.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, shhh, be a little quieter, some of us are trying to sleep. at December 31, 2013 07:13 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2013 07:14 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:14 AM (LSDdO)
All the best to you and yours.
Likewise and thank you ,sven.
He will be fine. Just tough to watch your kid getting the "making lemonade" Masters course.
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2013 07:14 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: DAve at December 31, 2013 07:14 AM (b7yum)
George Armstrong Custer made a living off playing risk/balls like a fiddle on the battlefield....
and he paid a steep price.
The Boone example resonates we grew up in the county he was taken to as a hostage.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:14 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 31, 2013 07:16 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: MAx at December 31, 2013 07:16 AM (b7yum)
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The Saturnalia was a hell of a party.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 07:17 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 31, 2013 07:17 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 31, 2013 07:17 AM (V3kRK)
unless the person enjoyed drowning and/or suffocating, this isn't entirely accurate...
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Actually, in about ten percent of the cases, the diver still had air in the tank when their body was recovered. Some panicked and lost their regulator and drowned, but it appears some realized that they weren't going to get out, and simply pulled out their regulator and breathed in water to get it over with.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 31, 2013 07:18 AM (sBUAE)
Posted by: MAx at December 31, 2013 07:19 AM (b7yum)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 31, 2013 07:19 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 07:20 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 31, 2013 07:20 AM (7ObY1)
I doubt it DAve, see the key is having a distinct enough style people eventually deduce your identity regardless....
Posted by: Sejanus at December 31, 2013 07:20 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 07:21 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 31, 2013 07:21 AM (naUcP)
Hmmm. I wonder if banks keep hard copies of mortgage documents anymore? If not, this would be a good thing neh?
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Our county, and many other counties in Texas, have stopped keeping the original deed in their records.
Instead, they scan it in and send it back.
Yeah.
I like to pretend that they've an isolated, self-sustained and properly insulated backup.
But who am I kidding? It's the government.
Can you imagine the years of lawsuits merely to determine the true owner?
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 07:21 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 31, 2013 07:22 AM (N/cFh)
Done, and done.
Little does your family know that God hears and honors prayers for believer and non-believer alike and in denying Him His due they are denying themselves His strength.
I pray His mercy shows them the error of their ways.
God bless and keep you and yours.
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:22 AM (TE35l)
They take risks that usually work out because the Sag is very intuitive and smart on a subconscious level.
This is good for a battlefield commander who is operating independently and in a tactically fluid environment.
It does lead to problems with authority. (they don't respect it much and unfortunately show it.)
It can also lead in later years to impulsivity and an over reliance on their intuition which can be fatal if incorrect or executed incorrectly.
This is what happened to George. He didn't pay attention to detail and got him and 70 some guys shot up. Amazingly he had brought a couple of gatling guns but did not field them. They might have made the difference. They may not have been used due to terrain.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:23 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 07:24 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 07:24 AM (cB3Ay)
Actually the little black kid who was adopted by the Romney's hit the jackpot.
Those Romney's are rich.
Way richer than any rapper you ever heard of
Posted by: zipline Bob at December 31, 2013 07:24 AM (W6iIX)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 07:24 AM (VtjlW)
276:"This is not a thing we should want."
I tend to believe that it is no longer a matter of what we want, merely how we can best position ourselves to make it through it.
No matter the cause, the large cities are done for. Whether it is a lack of sufficient food production, EMPs, nukes, or SMOD, they will not survive.
My concern is how to best provide for my family and neighbors. There will be those who come out of it on top. I want us to be those people.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 07:26 AM (f6ZLT)
Posted by: X at December 31, 2013 07:26 AM (KHo8t)
Cave diving will always be stupidly dangerous for the untrained. The casualty rate is at 40% for untrained cave divers.
GPS requires line of sight to the open sky.
A simple rope requires being trained to bring the damned thing and actually use it. And on top of that, you need to be trained to have proper dive time discipline for caves.
You can't just surface when your tank gets below 500 psi. You also have to be where you can find the surface well before your tank hits 500 psi.
Even with top quality long term rebreathers, this stuff is stupid dangerous without specialized certification.
Posted by: Kristophr at December 31, 2013 07:27 AM (c6N69)
Posted by: MAx at December 31, 2013 07:27 AM (b7yum)
Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 07:27 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 31, 2013 07:28 AM (V70Uh)
Maybe they could just not do that?
Things I'm not going to do. EVER.
cave diving
sky diving
Xtreme skiing
Skiing
Surfing in Hawaii
Surfing in New Jersey
Walking in the Bronx with 100's sticking out my pockets
Telling Mike Tyson to GFY
See how that works?
Mildly thrilling > Okey dokey
Death defying > No thanks. I'll be over there.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:28 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 07:28 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 31, 2013 07:30 AM (N/cFh)
Those Romney's are rich.
Way richer than any rapper you ever heard of
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What does it say about a culture that promotes and perpetuates the falsehood that rappers have money?
Also, I don't know why there hasn't been a huge civil rights class action lawsuit against the unstated policy of many government adoption agencies absolutely forbidding blacks being adopted by whites.
As some have noted, there are many leftists who would have preferred that little boy had been aborted rather than adopted by a white family.
They won't say so out-loud but that is the logical conclusion for their stated unqualified support for abortion.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 07:30 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 07:30 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 31, 2013 07:30 AM (V3kRK)
*ring ring*
*God looks at caller ID*
eman? who the kcuf is eman?
Oh. THAT guy. Why they calling me now?
I wonder what it's about?
Eh, kcuf them, they never take MY calls.
*turns off phone*
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:31 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 31, 2013 07:31 AM (VUDJK)
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Hardly
Look up the genealogy of Jesus sometime. Chock full of the most, er, colorful characters, you might say. If you were wanting to be polite.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 07:31 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 31, 2013 07:32 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 07:33 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 31, 2013 07:33 AM (V70Uh)
Posted by: nnptcgrad at December 31, 2013 07:33 AM (NpBvG)
Posted by: Fox2! at December 31, 2013 07:33 AM (cHwSy)
Quite the correct response is to introduce them to what a "weapons free" world means....
I am preparing my rally point slowly but surely.
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:34 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Wallace & Gromit at December 31, 2013 07:34 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mikeb at December 31, 2013 07:35 AM (fnZRh)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 31, 2013 07:36 AM (zF6Iw)
10-15 feet, nothing too high.
There was one spot where it was a narrow channel and the only way out was under the rock. A little cave of about 8 feet or so.
Yeah. Little scary.
Even though you could see the light at each end, you couldn't get out quick enough.
(The Narrows, I think we called that area. All below the spillway, the flood path of a dam, too boot.)
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 07:36 AM (VjL9S)
Wife is not planning on wearing her veteran status on our plates...
we were told LE gets nervous at them.
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:36 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 07:36 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:36 AM (LSDdO)
.......
As some have noted, there are many leftists who would have preferred that little boy had been aborted rather than adopted by a white family.
.......
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 11:30 AM (VjL9S)
yup,
growin up white is a crime, same with being white
Posted by: zipline Bob at December 31, 2013 07:36 AM (W6iIX)
Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 07:37 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 31, 2013 11:33 AM (V70Uh)
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I am referring to the cast of characters listed in Matthew, Chapter 1, described as "The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ", (verse 1 and following ....)
Quite the rogue's gallery.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 07:37 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 07:39 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 07:39 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 07:40 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 31, 2013 07:41 AM (lQ5/A)
Posted by: Wallace & Gromit at December 31, 2013 07:41 AM (aDwsi)
I might go even a little farther. Complete a full enlistment.
There are plenty of REMFs who go to school full time
So penalize the whole enlisted corps because "REMFs"?
Are you by any chance a Harvard Constitutional law professor?
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2013 07:41 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 07:42 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 11:42 AM (cB3Ay)
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Not exactly, but I think he might have known Rahab the Harlot.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 07:43 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 31, 2013 07:43 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at December 31, 2013 07:43 AM (rbP7L)
Well no, BUT there are a class of people who join up just to go to school and render themselves undeployable.
Wife has seen it, the thing is I don't have any easy answer about how to cull the sham artists from the force easily.
Wife has seen some people get to go to school as their military assignment when that is not in fact their assignment b/c command "wanted them to succeed" whilst the rest of their shop had to quadruple down to cover their absence.
It shouldn't be a problem much longer I think the US military has at most another decade of this manpower level left.
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:44 AM (TE35l)
Case in point: Guy had a P51 Mustang - hottest prop driven fighter ever. Pretty soon having a plane that would cruise at 350 mph wasn't enough of a thrill - so he started flying it at 50 feet off the ground - till that got ordinary. So he started flying it at 350 mph 50 feet off the ground upside down. Now that was a rush - until one time he started to pull back on the stick to climb up...
When you put yourself into a situation where the last sound you'll ever make is "oops" you are a complete fucking fool.
Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] An Observation at December 31, 2013 07:44 AM (ylhEn)
This has happened more than once in history.
The story of the lost nail is true. Tiny things can cascade into major problems even death for all.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:44 AM (LSDdO)
There are infestations of the FSA in the military too.
They usually have "national defense" ribbons on their license plates.
Posted by: Mikeb at December 31, 2013 11:35 AM (fnZRh)
Hey, fyt
Posted by: baldilocks--retired REMF at December 31, 2013 07:44 AM (36Rjy)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 31, 2013 07:44 AM (7ObY1)
I was thinking more along the lines of devices planted along the way that can help guide you out and warnings from other devices that help you make better decisions during the dive.
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Many caves have arrows and pointers left by previous divers, but I think the main attraction of cave diving is the danger. I go into shipwrecks because I can see history and see things that 99% of the population can't see, but cave divers just see rock, so there must be something to the danger that attracts them.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 31, 2013 07:44 AM (sBUAE)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 07:44 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 7th day of Christmas at December 31, 2013 07:45 AM (u8GsB)
338:"So penalize the whole enlisted corps because "REMFs"?"
I think this goes to the heart of having earned benefits versus unearned freebies.
Career enlisted have always had to pick up the slack for the mugs who are only there to get the bennies and then bounce.
I would support delaying TA until after a full enlistment term, so long as it is the full TA we used to have.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 07:46 AM (LJpVo)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 31, 2013 07:46 AM (7ObY1)
Vic was there when it was just Rahab the "friendly"...
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:46 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 31, 2013 07:47 AM (aDwsi)
Ma'am shall we ever have the pleasure to meet you will see it is not hyperbole that I say, "I'll be easy to find in the camps look for the smiling guy with a scar over his left eye...."
Risk and daring are awesome, foolhardiness to the point of idiocy...?
//Guy who almost ran over his own neck in his truck
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:48 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 11:43 AM (P6QsQ)
"Known".
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 11:44 AM (N/cFh)
Ha!
Most sordid story regarding Jesus' wacky human ancestors: Judah and his daughter-in-law.
Posted by: baldilocks--retired REMF at December 31, 2013 07:49 AM (36Rjy)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 07:49 AM (cB3Ay)
Made quite an impression on me as a young lad. Screw that, I don't want to die cold, hungry and in the dark under thousands of feet of solid rock.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 07:50 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 07:51 AM (BC6cY)
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As my pastor said the Sunday before Christmas, people like this were not just part of Jesus' story. They were the whole point of the story.
Christ came for sinners.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 07:51 AM (P6QsQ)
Let's see some concentration today.... last day of the year to score up for most comments of the year.
Oh and Happy New Year Horde.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 31, 2013 07:52 AM (MaP11)
I'm not claustrophobic but I can see it from where I am and I don't go there.
I'm a big guy and getting stuck in some place where no one can help is NOT my cup of tea.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:52 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Mama AJ, perhaps a wee bit claustrophobic at December 31, 2013 07:53 AM (SUKHu)
Is Vic listed?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 11:42 AM (cB3Ay)
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Not exactly, but I think he might have known Rahab the Harlot.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 11:43 AM (P6QsQ)
The Jews wandered for 40 years because Vic yelled, "Get off my lawn!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 31, 2013 07:53 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2013 07:53 AM (d0bTF)
I fear I know the results Guy....
so I guess I could take the day off...
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:53 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 11:49 AM (cB3Ay)
I can do that with a mirror.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:54 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 31, 2013 07:54 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 31, 2013 11:53 AM (zF6Iw)
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LOL - Now that right there is funny!
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 07:54 AM (P6QsQ)
When you put yourself into a situation where the last sound you'll ever make is "oops" you are a complete fucking fool.
Sounds like Mooch and Barky's wedding night.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 31, 2013 07:55 AM (zF6Iw)
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For the lovers of Moloch, the math is easy: If the mother doesn't want him, then it is a "thing."
If it was adopted, then the mother didn't want him--thus, "thing."
Yes, the chains that Jacob Marley forged in life are nothing compared to the shackles the leftists are forging for themselves.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 07:55 AM (VjL9S)
Well no, BUT there are a class of people who join up just to go to school and render themselves undeployable.
In the case of SMP , there is an 8-10 yr commitment required which runs concurrent with the initial 4-6 yr enlistment. Double the commitment. The "undeployable" is arguable when considering the "pre-camp" training endured in addition to the full course load, Military science, drill duty and airborne, air assault, Northern Warfare , whatever in the summer.
Upon graduation you have the honor of deploying in a leadership role at around 38k /year so "undeployable" should really read "delayed deployment".
Plenty of enlisted Reserve and NG troops begging to go overseas to collect some sweet sweet tax free cash for playing Xbox. Mikeb trying to label a motivated college student officer-trainee as a REMF and lump them in with the FSA is both disingenuous and inaccurate.
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2013 07:56 AM (5ikDv)
Wife was as much a Fobbit as she could be, she went out the gate when called upon never as a hobby....
You know Anna you are a steady hand at the "smart mil" side of things...
you have an opinion on why the newsies are supremely uninterested in comparing rate of casualty per capita this last year to the Bush era?
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 07:56 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 07:56 AM (BC6cY)
I'd like to know that I'll be able to watch certain folks get their comeuppance (and get it hard, real hard).
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 07:57 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at December 31, 2013 07:57 AM (rbP7L)
Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 07:58 AM (EWsrI)
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kungfury/kung-fury?ref=home_popular
The one $3,000 pledge is still available. Pledge that and you get a custom made action figure. Remember to ask for the Valkyrie with the Uzi.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2013 07:58 AM (d0bTF)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 07:58 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 31, 2013 07:59 AM (aDwsi)
Not a fan of La Palin, but she really doesn't help herself when she can't even spell "sub-par." The MFM is ignoring this message and mocking her for being illiterate instead. Not that she's illiterate. But like I said, she doesn't help herself when she does this kind of stuff.
When it comes to Palin, I wouldn't trust the MFM for an instant. Bollixing her spelling would be all in a days' work for the treasonous bastards.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 31, 2013 07:59 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 08:00 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 31, 2013 08:00 AM (659DL)
Posted by: MAx at December 31, 2013 08:00 AM (b7yum)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 11:58 AM (N/cFh)
Please don't tell me that was another bum turn-on.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 31, 2013 08:01 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: UWP at December 31, 2013 08:01 AM (2hQRj)
He's not a troll, he's a mobi.
(there does that help?)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 08:01 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2013 08:01 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2013 08:02 AM (d0bTF)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 08:02 AM (BC6cY)
376:"Plenty of enlisted Reserve and NG troops begging to go overseas to collect some sweet sweet tax free cash for playing Xbox. Mikeb trying to label a motivated college student officer-trainee as a REMF and lump them in with the FSA is both disingenuous and inaccurate."
Your example is the exception, not the rule.
What is the number of officer trainees dependant on TA compared to the number of four year (or sometimes two year) wonders out there?
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 08:03 AM (LJpVo)
.Posted by: Austrailia at December 31, 2013 08:03 AM (GaqMa)
It's also a case where arguably going towards retro tech would lower the body count....
a long tube of air that doubled as rope would do wonders....
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 08:03 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 08:04 AM (cB3Ay)
"The only reason 4 sane men would go out into the woods and climb into a cave is to get away from our wives, Hell, considering the cost of our gear a divorce would be cheaper".
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at December 31, 2013 11:57 AM (rbP7L)
Yeah, that guy I referenced up thread. He "said" he was crazy about his wife and she was fed up with him being gone every weekend. He was moaning about her leaving him, so I asked him, "How about you don't go caving one weekend a month and spend that time and money on her and/or the kids?"
His reply, "Screw her, I am here M-F, that is when we should have our relationship and family. My weekends are mine."
He was nutz to the MAx.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, shhh, be a little quieter, some of us are trying to sleep. at December 31, 2013 08:04 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: MAx at December 31, 2013 08:04 AM (b7yum)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 08:04 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 08:05 AM (GaqMa)
Now that's my idea of risk. (and believe me it would still be one).
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 08:05 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 08:05 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 31, 2013 08:05 AM (aDwsi)
Sorry. I don't think he said that.
But I know damned good and well the evil that twists one's heart to become a leftists wishes there were no Hell.
When you are dead and gone, your eyes opened to all that which you couldn't see before: You will then and there know all that you denied yourself--all the blessings, all the goodness, all the pure happiness and joy. Merely for the praise of some low creature like you? The self-flattery that you posses some measure of wisdom or knowledge?
I don't have to damn you, I don't have to curse you, I don't have to judge you--you will have plenty of that for yourself and plenty of time for which to do it in.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 08:05 AM (VjL9S)
Hear, hear...!
//Austrailia@Winning!
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 08:06 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 31, 2013 08:06 AM (aDwsi)
I may have the opportunity to be quite humble...
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 08:07 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 08:08 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: fluffy at December 31, 2013 08:09 AM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 31, 2013 08:11 AM (aDwsi)
Maybe if she was Greek.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 31, 2013 08:11 AM (SY2Kh)
What is the number of officer trainees dependant on TA compared to the number of four year (or sometimes two year) wonders out there?
I have no idea. There is only one trainee in particular that I am interested in.
It's pretty sad when conservatives work hard to justify Draconian cuts to 10% of the Constitutionally mandated government when a 5 % reduction in benefits to the GS-FSA would accomplish the same thing.
Of course college kids are easy targets.
How did those .223 rounds get from America to your weapon when you needed it most, hardcharger?
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2013 08:11 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 08:11 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2013 08:12 AM (d0bTF)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 08:12 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 08:12 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Mikeb at December 31, 2013 08:12 AM (fnZRh)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 12:11 PM (GaqMa)
God doesn't damn people to Hell. They do it themselves.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 08:14 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: votermom at December 31, 2013 08:14 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: John Roberts at December 31, 2013 08:15 AM (cHwSy)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 12:14 PM (LSDdO)
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Silly, isn't it. He says, Come home. They say No thanks.
Why?
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 08:15 AM (P6QsQ)
of a pilot are: "Oh Shit!"
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 12:12 PM (LSDdO)
I knew a geology professor who was ex-Air Force. He once said "The flight wasn't too bad - only three 'oh shits' and four 'Hail Marys'..."
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 31, 2013 08:16 AM (HRp/k)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at December 31, 2013 08:16 AM (n0tKQ)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 08:16 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: votermom at December 31, 2013 08:16 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 31, 2013 08:16 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2013 08:17 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: lindafell at December 31, 2013 08:17 AM (PGO8C)
Posted by: willow at December 31, 2013 08:18 AM (nqBYe)
Yup, the double edged sword of freewill.
Satan loves mankinds' indulgence of its worst to point at us and say "THEY are unworthy of you love lord....pick me pick me!"
God points to the damned and says "they were unworthy, these are my most beautiful creatures Lucifer for they CHOSE to follow me and admit their sin and repent."
Simplest paradigm in the world to grasp.
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 08:18 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Mikeb at December 31, 2013 12:12 PM (fnZRh)
Baldi: don't know what that means, sorry.
Posted by: Mikeb at December 31, 2013 12:12 PM (fnZRh)
You don't know what fyt means? Perhaps you would recognize it this way: F.Y.T.
Posted by: baldilocks--retired REMF at December 31, 2013 08:19 AM (36Rjy)
Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 08:19 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 31, 2013 08:19 AM (6fSty)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 12:14 PM (LSDdO)
That by the way is the message that Christ brought to the Jews and Gentiles of the world. That we were not destined to Hell forever and always for everyone.
That belief in God's son was sufficient to prevent that fate.
It was necessary to do it that way so as to make saving oneself an affirmative act and not a direct gift. The gift is in the opportunity.
God has always been about free will. You can go to Hell or not. The choice is yours. It's something most non Christians don't understand or get wrong. Christians don't believe we're better than anyone else that we're less sinful.
Just that we are blessed with a chance to avoid the result.
And ANYONE can participate. That too was part of the message that Jesus brought to earth.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 08:20 AM (LSDdO)
"For her part, Harris-Perry imagined Kieran Romney and North West, the daughter of Kanye West and Kim Kardashian, marrying in the future."
So, the funny thing they were laughing at on the show was that a Republican would adopt a black kid, NOT that Kanye West and his imbecile trophy wife of no accomplishment except having an enormous ass named their daughter NORTH WEST.
Holy fuck, these people are stupid.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2013 08:21 AM (TM1p8)
Air consumption rate is based on exertion and how tired you are. Most rebreather operators keep a simple blood O2 gauge clipped to their ear, and manually add O2 to their mix, because too many divers have been killed by automated gear failing, and the diver being too trusting, and not keeping an eye on his blood O2 level.
I am certainly not going to put my life in the hands of some damned programmer ... that is like voluntarily flying on an Airbus ... ermmm, nevermind.
A current shifts, and your consumption rate changes. Lines, markers, and other breadcrumbs only work well if you are the first person there ... a lot of Florida caves are littered with abandoned guide ropes.
Nothing replaces training, except deciding to let someone else do this instead.
Posted by: Kristophr at December 31, 2013 08:21 AM (c6N69)
Posted by: garrett at December 31, 2013 08:21 AM (y4ys9)
It's a little fucked up now, but a good dose of capitalism and the rule of law will set it aright.
Could we get some of that in the USA?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 31, 2013 08:21 AM (4WhSY)
.Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 08:22 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Kristophr at December 31, 2013 08:22 AM (c6N69)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 08:23 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 08:24 AM (GaqMa)
so was PW Bhota Africa is a place.....
the place we see is the result of a lot of decisions and indulgences....
and no I am not snarking I think we are happily trying to emulate Africa here.
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 08:24 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: MAx at December 31, 2013 08:24 AM (b7yum)
418: "It's pretty sad when conservatives work hard to justify Draconian cuts to 10% of the Constitutionally mandated government when a 5 % reduction in benefits to the GS-FSA would accomplish the same thing."
I guess that's the crux of where we disagree. I just don't think that having a mug complete his first enlistment before he gets TA INSTEAD of having TA covereage amounts cut is all that draconian.
The way I see it, doing so provides two positives. It cuts out the slackers, and it preserves the TA benefit for those who actually contribute to the mission.
As for who brought over my bullets? I did. In pallet loads on the C-5s, 141s, and 130s that I crewed.
While we are discussing how I transported my hard charging bullets, let it be known that I have had to take many an extra flight because some four year wonder was working harder on his BS in Underwater Basket Weaving that he was on finishing his 5 level training.
But then I guess you said all that needs to be said when you opine "There is only one trainee in particular that I am interested in".
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 08:24 AM (OJn3e)
Posted by: Kristophr at December 31, 2013 08:25 AM (c6N69)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 08:25 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 08:25 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 31, 2013 08:25 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 08:26 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: fantasy geek at December 31, 2013 08:27 AM (3MNCs)
The saying used to be 'mad dogs and Englishmen out in the noon day sun.' So I am not sure how Patrick Stewart mooing on a podcast is indicative of any remaining vestige of English stiff upper lip.
http://tinyurl.com/mnvyuva
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2013 08:27 AM (d0bTF)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at December 31, 2013 08:28 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 08:28 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: MAx at December 31, 2013 08:28 AM (b7yum)
Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 08:28 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: @Antarctica at December 31, 2013 08:28 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 08:29 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 31, 2013 08:29 AM (dCwZe)
About the father/son tragedy in Florida, I've read that most fatal accidents occur among moderately experienced divers: those with enough dives in their logbook to think that they know it all, but not enough dives to realize just how little they actually know. The same, I've heard, is true for pilots.
A little learning is indeed a dangerous thing.
Posted by: Brown Line at December 31, 2013 08:29 AM (VrNoa)
Subpar or sub-par? I've seen it both ways. Hyphengate!
Except the Palin quote read "sup-par." Maybe it was a mistake on her part, but considering the MSM's known enemy action and willingness to correct the dog-eating crackhead's gaffes, I'd lay even money on sabotage.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 31, 2013 08:29 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 31, 2013 08:29 AM (60Vyp)
[[i]The way I see it, doing so providestwo positives. It cuts out the slackers, and it preserves the TA benefit for those who actually contribute to the mission.
So all servicemembers who are college students and not you are non-contributing slackers. Awesome.
And you pretty much said it all right there.
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2013 08:31 AM (5ikDv)
Cause they were stooopid. And a bit arrogant. And ignorant.
What's the word on supplies?
Any cannabalism stories yet?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 08:31 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 31, 2013 08:31 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at December 31, 2013 08:31 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 31, 2013 08:32 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 08:33 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 08:33 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 31, 2013 08:33 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: MAx at December 31, 2013 08:33 AM (b7yum)
Word of advice, for the near future strike Cambodia off your travel itinerary.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2013 08:33 AM (d0bTF)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 31, 2013 08:34 AM (6fSty)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 31, 2013 08:34 AM (aDwsi)
There goes my vacation plans.
http://youtu.be/-KTsXHXMkJA
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 31, 2013 08:36 AM (4WhSY)
Posted by: That concert guy at December 31, 2013 08:36 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 08:36 AM (VtjlW)
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Posted by: Weirddave at December 31, 2013 08:36 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 31, 2013 08:37 AM (09CLD)
Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 08:37 AM (EWsrI)
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Risk or Stratego?
But seriously, there are two, three huge things preventing that.
The logistics of crossing the Sahara and the jungles.
No pre-existing national identity.
Rampant and deeply ingrained tribalism.
Even if you've the oil fields of Libya or Nigeria, you still lack a local industrial base.
Now, it would be possible if you've a partner with China, who's willing to lend huge amounts of military hardware and, possibly, troops.
For those paying attention: China is making a lot of moves in Africa. And I'm sure you all know the typical Chinese view of anyone not Chinese.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 08:37 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 31, 2013 08:37 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 08:37 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: garrett at December 31, 2013 08:38 AM (y4ys9)
Part of why I am weaning myself of Roger Goody's league...
besides I prefer the College game this season...Auburn is playing awesome ball.
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 08:39 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: small town girl at December 31, 2013 08:39 AM (fbrwf)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 08:39 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 31, 2013 08:40 AM (lQ5/A)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2013 08:42 AM (d0bTF)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 12:28 PM (BC6cY)
Exactly. James Carville is married to Mary Matalin, of all people. Two more politically opposite people cannot be imagined.
Why do I suddenly have this image that says Michelle Obama should really have married Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz, rather than Barky o'Fuckstick? Heh.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2013 08:42 AM (TM1p8)
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It's already started.
That vile POS Hilton is pushing a "Aaron Rodgers is teh ghey!" story pretty hard.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 31, 2013 08:42 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 08:42 AM (cB3Ay)
478: "So all servicemembers who are college students and not you are non-contributing slackers. Awesome."
I truly hope OCS will help you develop your reading comprehension.
Let's try to parse this a little bit and see if we can illuminate this for you.
At no point did I use the term "all". But if this eludes you, I'l spell it out.
Not all servicemembers who go so school, college or otherwise are slacking.
But if you spend more time on your schooling than you do on the job you are collecting a paycheck to perform...you just might be a slacker.
If you are collecting academic certifications faster than you collect military certs...you might be a slacker.
If someone else has to take your mission slot because you are in school, and you don't take their slot in the next misssion...you might be a slacker.
If the only reason you entered into military service was to avoid as much service as you can while collecting the most benefits...you might be a slacker.
Even the greenest of new enlistees should be able to grasp this. But if you can't, then you will fit in well with the reformed officer corps.
Good luck to you, and more importantly, those under you.... Sir.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 31, 2013 08:44 AM (Kh+vp)
Posted by: panzernashorn at December 31, 2013 08:44 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 31, 2013 08:44 AM (09CLD)
About the father/son tragedy in Florida, I've read that most fatal accidents occur among moderately experienced divers: those with enough dives in their logbook to think that they know it all, but not enough dives to realize just how little they actually know. The same, I've heard, is true for pilots.
A little learning is indeed a dangerous thing.
Posted by: Brown Line at December 31, 2013 12:29 PM (VrNoa)
The father should have known better than to head into a cave system. That's drilled into students' heads in Open Water certification. OW is a beginning cert, and even if this guy had Advanced OW, that's diddly squat compared to what he needed.
I'm Ice (overhead environment), Underwater Nav, Search and Recovery (black water rivers) certified, with a great deal of practical experience. I won't go near a cave system. They kill, sometimes even experienced cave divers. The father was damned irresponsible.
Looks like Mom went solo diving to look for them. Also generally a no-no, although she may have been capable of self-rescue.
Funny you mention pilots: The "Killing Zone", or the time when general aviation pilots tend to buy the farm, is between 100 and 500 hours. That's post-instruction, pre-"enough experience".
Posted by: SARDiver at December 31, 2013 08:44 AM (LgxPj)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 31, 2013 08:44 AM (aDwsi)
But they do it over the panic that UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS ARE GOING TO END OMG ELEVENTY!!!! and that you can't cut all these people loose into this economy!!!!!
Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 08:45 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2013 08:45 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 31, 2013 08:46 AM (N/cFh)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 08:46 AM (cB3Ay)
I most likely will not be watching the Olympics if I were a Russian I'd know I had a leader in charge who hates Terrorists and will kill as many as it takes to get it to abate.
Living in America I know I have a leader who hates domestic dissidence and will allow as many Americans as needed to die to feed political correctness.
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 08:46 AM (TE35l)
>>>Any cannabalism stories yet?
Well, the thread has been here awhile, but I can't see any of you to tell who's good eats or what
Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at December 31, 2013 08:47 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 08:47 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 31, 2013 08:49 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: MAx at December 31, 2013 08:53 AM (b7yum)
Of course if enough Morons use that, we would really need a meet place. Just to drive the stukach nuts as Cmdr Furry plots with Demon Lord Sid and Magical Girl Ginny to resist the Borg...
http://www.facerig.com/faq.php
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2013 08:55 AM (d0bTF)
Posted by: Chrissy Liebowitz at December 31, 2013 09:00 AM (iB0Q2)
Seriously, I think there's an Australian group called Empire of the Sun. For Realz.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at December 31, 2013 09:01 AM (PgNb6)
Posted by: panzernashorn at December 31, 2013 09:05 AM (MhA4j)
Take it from a guy who is far too old to go to OCS but who's son is fighting for a career as a leader despite the current climate (including self righteous jerks who took the bennies but now want to "reapportion" them according to their own personal fantasy) - the unexamined life is not worth living and sweeping generalizations of people are rarely if ever accurate.
You seem to be quite an expert on other people's slacking. Obsessed almost.
Lots of protest. Methinks too much.
Thanks for your service.
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