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November 25, 2013

Now He Tells Us: Time's Mark Halperin Says Obamacare Does Indeed Contain "Death Panels," And That's Right There in the Black-and-White Letter of the Law
— Ace

Yes... and all of this was knowable, and reportable, four years ago as well, but it only recently became fashionable to tell the American people the truth about Obamacare.

And that point only came when people could see with their own eyes it was a disaster and a lie-- only at that point did the media begin confessing the obvious.

Halperin's right -- this is all in the law. It's right there. You can read it.

As you could have four years ago.

As the media, particularly, could have four years ago.

Skip to 4:27, where Malzberg asks Halperin if he knew Obama was lying through his teeth for four years. He once again that Mitt Romney's 2012 candidacy caused the press to not ask difficult questions about Obamacare in 2010.

The death panels comments comes at 8:17.

Posted by: Ace at 02:13 PM | Comments (188)
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1 works both ways

Posted by: Trainer's looking to join a Militia. at November 25, 2013 02:19 PM (7EbAY)

2 It's a long way until the end of the pipe.

Posted by: Andy Dufresne at November 25, 2013 02:19 PM (Pr6hk)

3 We're still pretty sure Palin made that part up.

Posted by: your betters in the Media at November 25, 2013 02:19 PM (bAGA/)

4 Halperins mouth is scewed.

Posted by: Ronster at November 25, 2013 02:20 PM (Rru72)

5 But Sarah Palin is still a dumb cracka.. and she should be made to eat shit and endure Golden Showers!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 25, 2013 02:21 PM (b/lt+)

6 My prediction? PAIN

Posted by: Barry 'Clubber Lang' Soetoro at November 25, 2013 02:22 PM (Pr6hk)

7 And anyway.. death panels are only for you dumb hicks and T-Party folks! What could go wrong?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 25, 2013 02:22 PM (b/lt+)

8 Halperin is a weasel.

Posted by: huerfano at November 25, 2013 02:23 PM (bAGA/)

9 What difference does it make?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 25, 2013 02:24 PM (+YFcy)

10 Death Panels in UK: "The son of an elderly hospital patient who was 'starved to death' on the Liverpool Care Pathway has called for police to launch a murder inquiry. Peter Tulloch believes the death of his mother, Jean Tulloch, was the result of 'negligent' and 'unlawful' care at the Western General hospital in Edinburgh. Daily Mail

Posted by: Bruce at November 25, 2013 02:24 PM (vJfir)

11 ObamaCare? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 25, 2013 02:24 PM (Pr6hk)

12 Just another bit o' ammo for Thanksgiving when my libtard son-in-law brings up the bennnies of O'care.. Schweet!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 25, 2013 02:25 PM (b/lt+)

13 So what are a few fibs in relation to such creases?

Posted by: David Brooks at November 25, 2013 02:25 PM (Pr6hk)

14 Oh goody, I get to say it again--- WHAT IS THE POINT OF YOU MARK HALPERIN?

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone and Mornings at November 25, 2013 02:26 PM (lIDeP)

15 I'm torn on whether we (conservative people) should continue pushing "repeal!" or if we should just let the public eat this shit sandwich for a few years and crush the progressive/liberal movement for a generation. I'm really leaning towards the latter, but I'm not too fond of shit sandwiches myself.

Posted by: Donkey at November 25, 2013 02:26 PM (Ggh94)

16 Who knew...besides Sarah Palin and us Morons that is?

Posted by: steveegg at November 25, 2013 02:26 PM (o44nj)

17 You know it's just Ends justifies the Means with this crowd. Move along

Posted by: Zakn at November 25, 2013 02:27 PM (zyaZ1)

18 Peter Tulloch believes the death of his mother, Jean Tulloch, was the result of 'negligent' and 'unlawful' care at the Western General hospital in Edinburgh.

Daily Mail
Posted by: Bruce
...............
He probably visited her daily thinking.. "My goodness! Mum is getting rather thin! But, I'm sure these good doctors know what they're doing.. Righto! Carry on, then!"

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 25, 2013 02:27 PM (b/lt+)

19 Mitt Romney also caused him to not ask questions about Benghazi.

Posted by: no good deed at November 25, 2013 02:27 PM (HsJeN)

20 Time to rub their noses in it.

Posted by: Ceasar Milan at November 25, 2013 02:27 PM (Pr6hk)

21 There is one good thing about obamacare: At the 59 I don't have to worry about as long as some of you youngins do

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 02:27 PM (t3UFN)

22 Everyone knows that Palin put the death panels in..using ESP

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 25, 2013 02:28 PM (nTgAI)

23 These evil bastards are guilty of complicity in the crime of murdering sweet Liberty.

Posted by: EROWMER at November 25, 2013 02:28 PM (OONaw)

24 If people addicted to nicotine are sick people that need help (and not just people making ill-advised personal decisions), then why isn't this pre-existing condition (i.e., disease of nicotine addiction) covered under Obamacare? I assume sick people addicted to cocaine and heroin are covered for some crazy reason, idk.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 25, 2013 02:28 PM (Iyi/j)

25 But Sarah Palin is the moron And Ted Cruz making a stand against this fresh Hell was on "a fools errand".

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 02:29 PM (zOTsN)

26 My apologies to weasels. Halperin is not a weasel. He's a lying sack of shit. No offense meant to shit or sacks.

Posted by: huerfano at November 25, 2013 02:29 PM (bAGA/)

27 I'm gobsmacked he's admitting it now. The death panels won't really kick in until (unless?) Obamascare is good and entrenched among we the people. They'll wait to start bumping off grandmothers for a few years.

So to me, it looks like Halperin committed a random act of journalism here. Has the worm finally turned among the media? I won't hold my breath...far more data points needed to confirm.

Posted by: Mayday at November 25, 2013 02:29 PM (eHc+1)

28 Obamacare is not the hill to fight on.

Posted by: Mitch The Bitch McConnell at November 25, 2013 02:30 PM (Pr6hk)

29 So will the MSM finally admit "Chillbilly Barbie" is not as stoopid as they've been saying she is these last five years? Because I seem to recall that dumb hick being pretty much the first person to warn us about the death panels. What am I saying, of course they won't...

Posted by: elaine at November 25, 2013 02:30 PM (GNZ0/)

30 But Paul Ryan was pushing granny off the cliff, I saw it on TV

Posted by: LIV at November 25, 2013 02:30 PM (nTgAI)

31 Did Halperin just wake up from a 4 year coma?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 25, 2013 02:31 PM (6ahup)

32 I'm not good at snark. You know it - I know it - The People know it. So I'll just lay it out like it is; I'm stuck with attending Thursday with my Dad who swears Everything is Equal - as long as the Democrat is fucking up. Also stuck with a Sister - who's at least a Lt. Col. in the FSA. I really just don't give a fuck anymore. When they start it - I will finish it. Opinions are fine - when debating White After Labor Day. This shit - not so much.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 25, 2013 02:31 PM (6/+vz)

33 We have to pass the bill to see the Death Panels in it.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 25, 2013 02:31 PM (jCoeL)

The ministry of truth tell us so

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 25, 2013 02:31 PM (nTgAI)

35 I am not just pissed at the media I am REALLY pissed about republicans treating them the same way

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 02:31 PM (zOTsN)

36 Now is the time to pivot to immigration reform.

Posted by: Open Border Rino at November 25, 2013 02:32 PM (Pr6hk)

37 Doesn't matter. Palin said it, therefore it didn't have the proper context or something. It's right there? She's still not right because she meant something other than what's there, even if it's there in black and white. She meant something like a group reviewing each individual case and stamping the word, "Die!" in red ink on each person's file. Or something.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 25, 2013 02:33 PM (sByIH)

38 I saw Death Panel open up for Slipknot at the Sokol Auditorium in 2005.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2013 02:33 PM (jCoeL)

39 Carrousel? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson circa 2116 at November 25, 2013 02:33 PM (pj6Nr)

40 Don't know which Moron I'm stealing this from but it seems appropriate:

"Fuck Mark Halperin in the ass with a flaming aircraft carrier."

Posted by: FYNQ, AKA Kulak #1 at November 25, 2013 02:33 PM (TM1p8)

41 Dear Lord, Thank you for our many blessings. Keep us safe from the DEATH PANELS given us by our democrat neighbors, now confirmed by Time's Mark Halperin at 8:17 of the audio. We ask that you spare us, even those among us who support Obamacare, from the DEATH PANELS that Sarah Palin, in her wisdom, warned us of. And forgive those who defamed Ms. Palin and others for merely telling us the truth. Amen

Posted by: USA at November 25, 2013 02:34 PM (VIaw0)

42 Including people here who are now crowing about JEFcare's failure, but could wait to crap all over Palin and Cruz

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 02:34 PM (zOTsN)

43 Obamacare is not the hill to fight on.

Posted by: Mitch The Bitch McConnell at November 25, 2013 06:30 PM (Pr6hk)

Nor is this the right time to fight.

Posted by: A guy named rheinhold at November 25, 2013 02:34 PM (nkPV9)

44 ThereÂ’s too much end-of-life care going on. IÂ’m not saying we shouldnÂ’t allow thatÂ… just that we should stop it.

Posted by: Mark “incomprehensible” Halperin at November 25, 2013 02:34 PM (QF8uk)

45 I'll bet nobody is more angry than Obama, that some..some...scoundrel has written "Death Panels" into his signature legislative achievement without his knowledge or approval.

Posted by: BuckIV at November 25, 2013 02:34 PM (gedHR)

46 And the Middle Class.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 25, 2013 02:35 PM (ndlFj)

47 $arah payme does not have my approval. Princess Lisa does.

Posted by: A guy named rheinhold at November 25, 2013 02:36 PM (nkPV9)

48 35 I am not just pissed at the media I am REALLY pissed about republicans treating them the same way Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 06:31 PM Exactly. Those aren't really republicans so much as undeclared democrats who like to sport an "R" after their name. Just to keep up the pretense we have a two-party system. They've pounded the nails in their own coffins with their anti-Palin, anti-Tea Party, anti-Ted Cruz statements. Guess who's getting that punch in the nose, McConnell? You and your ilk.

Posted by: elaine at November 25, 2013 02:36 PM (GNZ0/)

49 Remember when Malor said something like the term "Illegal Alien" isn't in some bill. Sure they're called Illegal, and Alien, but not "Illegal Alien" all together in quotes like that. Same thing with "Death Panels". Not exactly in those words in quotes. It's just the exact same idea.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 25, 2013 02:37 PM (sByIH)

50 But access to contraception !!1!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 25, 2013 02:37 PM (Pr6hk)

51 How is this news to anyone with a high school diploma? Insurance companies do this every day of the week. You come to a point and they tell you, thats it, no soup for you. Now that the government is running things how exactly would that change? They only difference is now Dr. Emmanuel is the one doing the choosing.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 25, 2013 02:37 PM (g1DWB)

52

No really, had no fuckin idea JugEars was a liar.

Good thing we have the GOP to mount a quality, HIGH quality, opposition.

Oh yeah.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at November 25, 2013 02:37 PM (xggaJ)

53 It's a good thing no one savaged a former VP candidate over this topic. That would be really embarrassing for them now.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 25, 2013 02:37 PM (uzmcT)

54 And the middle class.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at November 25, 2013 02:38 PM (E8IHS)

55 You screwed up, you trusted us.

Posted by: Barry 'Otter' Soetoro at November 25, 2013 02:38 PM (Pr6hk)

56 So when did Halperin become a racist? Dude prolly gets StormFront newsletters!!!

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 25, 2013 02:38 PM (Xlbr8)

57 Gratz, Ace. You made it to FoxNation http://nation.foxnews.com/ Sweet!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 25, 2013 02:39 PM (IXrOn)

58 Seriously fuck those guys All of em

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 02:39 PM (zOTsN)

59 We're gonna need a bigger oven.

Posted by: Chief Brodie at November 25, 2013 02:39 PM (Pr6hk)

60 Ohhhh...those death panels. I thought you meant some other death panels that are most assuredly not in the ACA.

Posted by: Neal Marx, American Newsman at November 25, 2013 02:40 PM (6ahup)

61 But I thought smoking and being WalMart-electric-cart fat were preexisting conditions!

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 25, 2013 02:40 PM (tmFlQ)

62 All well and good...the media lied. So. We knew it too...as did Romney and what did WE DO with the info? Stand by as Sarah Palin got pummeled. Remember the fight we put up? Me neither. WE CAN NOT MARKET SHIT...endgame.

Posted by: getonwithit at November 25, 2013 02:40 PM (IlFzi)

63 If it wasn't for Mitt Romney we would have asked all the important questions!(In a way it's true,if they didn't have to get Barack re elected they may have actually done some reporting)

Posted by: steevy at November 25, 2013 02:41 PM (zqvg6)

64 But.. but .. this isn't true because I got an email from OFA showing me the Snopes link saying this wasn't true.

Posted by: Obamabot at Thanksgiving Dinner at November 25, 2013 02:42 PM (aTXUx)

65 I'm told the vats are warm and comfy.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 25, 2013 02:42 PM (Xlbr8)

66
So the follow up question to Halprin should be: what candidate will the gop have that will require the press not to ask Hillary questions about Benghazi?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 25, 2013 02:42 PM (iGPSR)

67 WE CAN NOT MARKET SHIT...endgame.

Posted by: getonwithit at November 25, 2013 06:40 PM (IlFzi)

I disagree with that. We can market whatever we want. However we have just as much vested interest in humongous government as those (d)'s do.

Bottom line? WE won't market shit.

Posted by: A guy named rheinhold at November 25, 2013 02:43 PM (nkPV9)

68 The left lies. That's what it does. That's ALL it does. Sarah's smarter than 100% of the left.

Posted by: Moose at November 25, 2013 02:43 PM (zewlq)

69 I so hate being banned. And I wish it would stop. I promise I won't sound like a troll again...if I did I didn't mean it. Being able to chime in makes all the difference for me. Please tell me why I was banned. Please.

Posted by: Jack at November 25, 2013 02:43 PM (gWHwW)

70 Ace's link at FoxNation http://tinyurl.com/on4h96y But, atm, it's still on the front page. http://nation.foxnews.com/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 25, 2013 02:44 PM (IXrOn)

71 SpaceX has scrubbed for the day. No official word on the cause yet. The earliest next attempt will be Thursday at 5:38 pm EST, depending on what the problem is, of course.

Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2013 02:44 PM (sdi6R)

72 You guys and all your Death Panel bitchin'. Just shaking my head. What we need here is someone to give us about a half dozen paragraphs on why cost cutting must be done ... for the greater good. Preferably somebody who just got done bragging about cashing a big insurance check for hitting Bambi. Hmmm ... the name escapes me ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 25, 2013 02:44 PM (6/+vz)

73 Gratz, Ace. You made it to FoxNation Seconded!

Posted by: Lace Wigs & Chicken Gravy [/i] at November 25, 2013 02:45 PM (UL/Aj)

74 Old and busted: There are no death panels. New Hotness: Of course death panels are written into the law and it's a good thing. Got that, wingnutz?

Posted by: Neal Marx, American Newsman at November 25, 2013 02:46 PM (6ahup)

75 We need the steel door and generator bot back.

Class the place up some.

Posted by: A guy named rheinhold at November 25, 2013 02:46 PM (nkPV9)

76 Soylent Green is ... Obamacare!!

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2013 02:47 PM (aTXUx)

77 In my defense, my intention is that the Death Panels will only choose death for the over-privileged and undesirable. Like Republicans. Or white people.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 25, 2013 02:48 PM (ZPrif)

78 You mean, shock, SARAH PALIN was right in her assertion there would be Death Panels? Who could have guessed?

Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson at November 25, 2013 02:48 PM (nL5y5)

79 Can you believe that Palin woman called 'snowmobiles' snow machines? Geez. What a ditz. If she was in office she'd probably be trying to deprive children of the minimum daily requirements of food consistent with maintaining life for an active child.

Posted by: Lace Wigs & Chicken Gravy [/i] at November 25, 2013 02:49 PM (UL/Aj)

80 Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2013 06:47 PM (aTXUx) No,no,no, Soylent Green is not part of Obamacare.... Oh, wait, there it is on page 1729!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 25, 2013 02:49 PM (XdnQT)

81 Shorter Halperin: "We couldn't question Obama, because that might help Republicans."

Posted by: --- at November 25, 2013 02:50 PM (MMC8r)

82 I would have said something about what a crap law Obamacare is earlier but I had something stuck in my throat.

Posted by: Mark Halperin at November 25, 2013 02:50 PM (6ahup)

83 And next week we'll hear this: Hey, obamacare will turn our health care system into England's lousy health care system!

Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 25, 2013 02:50 PM (DlaLh)

84 Everyone of the "republicans" who called her stupid should line up to kiss her ass

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 02:50 PM (zOTsN)

85 Of course there are 'Death Panels', we don't want the elderly suffering from 'back alley' neglect do you? It should be safe, in the open, and sanctioned by the government.

Posted by: Dr. Gosnell at November 25, 2013 02:51 PM (Pr6hk)

86 And no, Navy Cop Joe, you cannot volunteer

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 02:51 PM (zOTsN)

87 And Ted Cruz making a stand against this fresh Hell was on "a fools errand". Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 06:29 PM (zOTsN) You have to admit Cruz got lucky that the crap is hitting the fan way faster than anticipated.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at November 25, 2013 02:51 PM (E8IHS)

88 In my defense, my intention is that the Death Panels will only choose death for the over-privileged and undesirable. Like Republicans. Or white people.

But not me, john and miss lindsay!!!

Posted by: A guy named rheinhold(thats REINCE to whacjo paymeite$) at November 25, 2013 02:52 PM (nkPV9)

89 Halperin is guilty of source bias. He reads the NYT, Politico, the WaPo, and watches the MFM. He may dabble occasionally in a little slumming at Fox, or read very occasionally a piece at HA (mainly to gt a laugh at the rubes in the comments).

And he doesn't even know anyone that voted for Romney.

This is why he says that conservative news sources didn't do any investigative reporting on 404Care; he never read of any because HIS news sources never reported it.

I guess I'll at least give him a small kudos for admitting that the MFM is liberally biased (though he has no clue just how biased).

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 25, 2013 02:52 PM (wNF3N)

90 And it's Sarah Palin that's the idiot??!!???

Posted by: Buddha at November 25, 2013 02:52 PM (s/sIv)

91 Everyone of the "republicans" who called her stupid should line up to kiss her ass Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 06:50 PM (zOTsN) Well that has always been my position but for different reasons

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 02:52 PM (t3UFN)

92 You have to admit Cruz got lucky that the crap is hitting the fan way faster than anticipated. Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at November 25, 2013 06:51 PM (E8IHS) ~ aka Good Judgement and Leadership.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 25, 2013 02:53 PM (6ahup)

93 Some day I would like Halperin to say why he did not investigate the president or his actions.

If it's not pure bias, sir, what the hell is it?

Gaah. There's nothing left to do but pray, I tell ya.

Posted by: PJ at November 25, 2013 02:53 PM (ZWaLo)

94 I can't fucking believe that asshole is actually blaming conservative media for not making an issue of death panels and such in the law. FUCK THAT ASSHOLE is his gaping obamahole.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at November 25, 2013 02:53 PM (ZxVJD)

95 We got princess lisa and pete king covered to.

Posted by: A guy named rheinhold(thats REINCE to whacko paymeite$) at November 25, 2013 02:53 PM (nkPV9)

96 31 Did Halperin just wake up from a 4 year coma? Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 25, 2013 06:31 PM (6ahup) No but he's going to be in one in if he brings up Ocare during Thanksgiving dinner.

Posted by: Uncle Hank Halperin at November 25, 2013 02:54 PM (oFCZn)

97
♫ This will only hurt for a little while

♫ I'll only stick the head of it in

♫ I promise that I'll never try to cum in your mouth

Posted by: David Allen Coe at November 25, 2013 02:54 PM (Pr6hk)

98 It's a shame to have to wait three more years to flush this turd.

Posted by: Buddha at November 25, 2013 02:54 PM (s/sIv)

99 Cruz did not "get lucky" He was right. He is smart. He and Palin are the only ones worthy of any trust.

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 02:54 PM (zOTsN)

100
Halperin blathers that the candidates set the agenda.

Fucking delusional liar.

Posted by: Powderhouse Rules at November 25, 2013 02:55 PM (YBusZ)

101 I saw on Instapundit,Ahmad Rashad is dating Valerie Jarrett.Seriously dude?You can do better.

Posted by: steevy at November 25, 2013 02:55 PM (zqvg6)

102 Let's not quibble. Quibbling annoys me.

Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 25, 2013 02:55 PM (BUcLz)

103 Ace's link at FoxNation http://tinyurl.com/on4h96y But, atm, it's still on the front page. http://nation.foxnews.com/ Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 25, 2013 06:44 PM (IXrOn) SUCK IT CAC AND THE FEDERALIST!!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 25, 2013 02:55 PM (oFCZn)

104 Jwest loves the death panels.

Posted by: steevy at November 25, 2013 02:56 PM (zqvg6)

105 42 Including people here who are now crowing about JEFcare's failure, but could wait to crap all over Palin and Cruz Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 06:34 PM (zOTsN) I can name two off the top of my head.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 25, 2013 02:56 PM (YLf2/)

106 It's a shame to have to wait three more years to flush this turd.

Sorry. You are going to have to wait 8 years. After barak obama serves his two terms, the donks are going to nominate barry sotero.

We here at the rheinhold national committee won't make any issue of it.

Posted by: A guy named rheinhold(thats REINCE to whacko paymeite$) at November 25, 2013 02:57 PM (nkPV9)

107 Halperin and all the rest of the MSM owe apologies to Sarah Palin, tea partiers, Ted Cruz, the folks at the townhall meetings, and all of us who saw this bill for the pile of steaming crap that it is right from the beginning. Until them they can go f**k themselves. They are completely useless to anyone but the democratic party campaign committees.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2013 02:57 PM (DpI6K)

108 Look, we already gave Palin a pants on fire for this death panel thing so it's irrelevant now bitchez!

Posted by: Politifact at November 25, 2013 02:57 PM (ZxVJD)

109 You don't even need death panels officially. When you limit the Doctors and limit the Hospitals and funnel a larger and larger number of people thru a smaller portal, what do you think happens anyway?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 02:57 PM (t3UFN)

110
Hey, uh, Mark,

So why in hell should we ever again believe anything written by any of you people?

Me? I'm getting all my news from AoSHQ so you guys keep it up, okay?

Posted by: Hoove at November 25, 2013 02:57 PM (YBusZ)

111 Who is Mark Halprin? Wait, wasn't he a mouseketeer?

Posted by: VADM(Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Despatches) at November 25, 2013 02:58 PM (O7OxF)

112 How does halperin admitting anything help me get more committee chairs in the house and senate?

Oh wait, I don't really care if I do. As long as I have a seat at the table I am happy.

Posted by: A guy named rheinhold(thats REINCE to whacko paymeite$) at November 25, 2013 03:01 PM (nkPV9)

113 Ace has got to pleased about getting linked at Fox Nation. And you know what that means. An epic Val-U-Rite/hobo hunting adventure!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 25, 2013 03:01 PM (oFCZn)

114
PolitiFact wrote: "We've looked at the inflammatory claims that the health care bill encourages euthanasia. It doesn't. There's certainly no 'death board' that determines the worthiness of individuals to receive care. ... [Palin] said that the Democratic plan will ration care and 'my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether they are worthy of health care.' Palin's statement sounds more like a science fiction movie (Soylent Green, anyone?) than part of an actual bill before Congress.

We rate her statement Pants on Fire!" [PolitiFact.com, 8/10/09]

via Mediamatters 2009

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 25, 2013 03:01 PM (kdS6q)

115

So, to re-cap, the snowbilly idiot woman is only the one in public life who got the death panels right.

But Joe "This is a Big Fucking Deal" Biden is still way smarter than Sarah Palin.

Boned, this country is.

Posted by: frouper at November 25, 2013 03:01 PM (YBusZ)

116 So in short, we could be just as well informed by listening to dogs bark as reading Mark Halperin.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 25, 2013 03:02 PM (6ahup)

117 Like I've always said, my friends. Obamacare should be repealed.

Posted by: Juan McRino at November 25, 2013 03:02 PM (pcgW1)

118 In before the scorpions!

Posted by: toby928© beating memes to death since 2006 at November 25, 2013 03:04 PM (QupBk)

119 Where are the ads on this? When do they figure out its 24/7/365 campaigning? WTF!!

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 03:04 PM (zOTsN)

120 Soon.

Posted by: C.H.U.D. at November 25, 2013 03:04 PM (MMC8r)

121 Ace's link at FoxNation
http://tinyurl.com/on4h96y

See! You reichwingers just get your talking points from faux news!!!

Posted by: Your lefty relative here to eat your turkey and lecture you about Obamacare at November 25, 2013 03:04 PM (2jQGY)

122 They've pounded the nails in their own coffins with their anti-Palin, anti-Tea Party, anti-Ted Cruz statements. Guess who's getting that punch in the nose, McConnell? You and your ilk.

Posted by: elaine at November 25, 2013 06:36 PM (GNZ0/)

The fuckturd Krauthammer was bitching about Palins "death panels" "she should leave the room".

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 25, 2013 03:05 PM (AWmfW)

123 Conservatives need to start their own knockout game. We will start with the MSM and proceed from there.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 25, 2013 03:05 PM (iy7de)

124 Oh, I see. The failure to report the truth is the fault of the liars because, ya know, they just reported what they were TOLD. Right?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 03:05 PM (DmNpO)

125 To fight 24/7/365 - you have to BELIEVE in what you're fighting for. They don't.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 25, 2013 03:06 PM (6/+vz)

126 Case in point: We have in our laps the best example of why Liberalism/Socialism does not/will not ever work. We should be out everyday with a speech on what this teaches/explains. Instead...squat...ZERO.
Oh, I know let them hang themselves...keep quiet, they will attack us!
ZERO balls and will to win...scream it from the rooftops...Liberalism will KILL you!
Instead...crickets.

Posted by: getonwithit at November 25, 2013 03:06 PM (IlFzi)

127 They are completely useless to anyone but the democratic party campaign committees.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2013 06:57 PM (DpI6K)

Unfortunately, that's the point of the media these days.

Posted by: Hrothgar (Medicare and DMV Administraitor) at November 25, 2013 03:06 PM (XdnQT)

128 Under Obamacare the living will envy our patriotic citizens selected the IPAB to serve their country. They stormed the beaches at Normandy now watch as we unleash them to storm the gates of Hell.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at November 25, 2013 03:06 PM (kUgpq)

129 100
Halperin blathers that the candidates set the agenda.

Fucking delusional liar.

Posted by: Powderhouse Rules at November 25, 2013 06:55 PM (YBusZ)

He's right , Obama told him what to say...

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 25, 2013 03:07 PM (AWmfW)

130 The MFM got a lot of help marginalizing Palin from our republican "leadership"

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 03:07 PM (zOTsN)

131 It's the LAW OF THE LAND!!! Now get in the boxcars!

Posted by: Nanzi Peeelozzi at November 25, 2013 03:07 PM (MMC8r)

132 Mark, come sit beside me at the Thanksgiving table. I've got a plan that involves this gravy boat, your asshole, and some minor assembly issues.

Posted by: Uncle Hank at November 25, 2013 03:08 PM (wNF3N)

133 So in short, we could be just as well informed by listening to dogs bark as reading Mark Halperin.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 25, 2013 07:02 PM (6ahup)

Listening to Ted Cruz reading Dr Seuss for 20 minutes was more informative than the totality of everything Halperin has ever said or written in his entire lifetime!

Posted by: Hrothgar (Medicare and DMV Administraitor) at November 25, 2013 03:09 PM (XdnQT)

134 The MFM got a lot of help marginalizing Palin from our republican "leadership"

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 07:07 PM (zOTsN)

Watch it there buddy or I'll send my bitch, mitch, to punch you in the nose.

Posted by: A guy named rheinhold(thats REINCE to whacko paymeite$) at November 25, 2013 03:09 PM (nkPV9)

135 35 I am not just pissed at the media

I am REALLY pissed about republicans treating them the same way

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 06:31 PM (zOTsN)

We should have been snarling at the media bastards after that shit they pulled to get Bill Clinton elected.

They should literally denounced on sight for their role as propaganda agents of the Democrat party. They should be named and shamed.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 25, 2013 03:09 PM (XnALK)

136 I hate to say it, but once Obamacare is up and running, there are going to be a LOT of people literally flipping out over things like the death panels. The stupid libs think that since Obama smiles a lot and hates the same people they do that he will take care of them. Boy are they in for a rude awakening. Forget $$$ and the messes people are dealing with now when they start deciding who lives and dies, it will get ugly.

Posted by: Baldy at November 25, 2013 03:09 PM (2bql3)

137 The MFM got a lot of help marginalizing Palin from our republican "leadership"

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 07:07 PM (zOTsN)

Makes one proud to be a Republican knowing that your own "leadership" holds you in contempt, especially if you threaten their gravy train existence in the slightest!

Posted by: Hrothgar (Medicare and DMV Administraitor) at November 25, 2013 03:10 PM (XdnQT)

138 133 Hrothgar, Now Now Hrothgar I am certain Hatpin could be assed to do his job if we simply disbanded the GOP evidently.... "Romey12 meant we couldn't report in 10 racists"

Posted by: sven10077 at November 25, 2013 03:10 PM (9jfyN)

139 Conservatives need to start their own knockout game. We will start with the MSM and proceed from there. Posted by: Kreplach ------------------------------ Maybe. A friend has proposed a game called Pikes and Heads.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 25, 2013 03:12 PM (aDwsi)

140 Baldy ... yep.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 25, 2013 03:12 PM (6/+vz)

141 136 Baldy, Well it will streamline some decsion matrixes at any rate.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 25, 2013 03:12 PM (9jfyN)

142 Let us ignore the whole time travel aspect of the Romney thing and focus on what the MFM is admitting. If a Republican says something, it is a lie. It is a lie a lie a lie and the MFM has no responsibility at all to see if that is, you know, factually true.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 25, 2013 03:13 PM (Gk3SS)

143 >>"I saw on Instapundit Ahmad Rashad is dating Valerie Jarrett. Seriously dude? You can do better."--steevy

Better him than Ali Khamanei.

Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at November 25, 2013 03:13 PM (g4GX8)

144 66
So the follow up question to Halprin should be: what candidate will the gop have that will require the press not to ask Hillary questions about Benghazi?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 25, 2013 06:42 PM (iGPSR)

I am firmly convinced that everyone deep sixed inquires regarding Obama's natural born citizen status because John fucking McCain happened to be the nominee, and had his own "Natural Born Citizen" problem politically. (Not in actuality, but in the minds of the low information voter he did.)

It was a Devil's bargain. You don't challenge my status, and I won't challenge yours.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 25, 2013 03:13 PM (XnALK)

145 Posted by: sven10077 at November 25, 2013 07:10 PM (9jfyN)

Sven me boy, I not sure I could tell if the GOP establishment disbanded because they aren't doing diddly as far as I can tell.

Posted by: Hrothgar (Medicare and DMV Administraitor) at November 25, 2013 03:13 PM (XdnQT)

146 139 Mike Hammer, It's Lad10077's birthday, we were pondering a game of Roundheads and Cavaliers.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 25, 2013 03:14 PM (9jfyN)

147 And to bring it all around full circle-the nuking of the filibuster, if I am not mistaken, now lets dems appoint whoever they want to the Death Panel (IPAB) board, right? Like Dr. Mengele Rahm and Kathleeen Succubus.... With the added sprinkles on top-a packed federal court full of moonbats enforcing the Obamacare Death Panel regulations promulgated by these ghouls. You have no recourse, no where to turn, serf! Submit! Soviet style medicine, straight up.

Posted by: goldilocks at November 25, 2013 03:15 PM (FIMVX)

148 This explains all the "palliative care" centers I've noticed springing up locally over the last couple of years. I wondered what was driving it.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 25, 2013 03:15 PM (Xlbr8)

149 If a Republican says something, it is a lie. It is a lie a lie a lie and the MFM has no responsibility at all to see if that is, you know, factually true. And if a Republican says anything a Democrat says is a lie, the MFM must rake them over the coals to prove that calling the Democrat a liar was really a lie a lie a lie a lie a lie.

Posted by: Nanzi Peeelozzi at November 25, 2013 03:15 PM (MMC8r)

150 Don't worry folks, in 16 Fatty from Joisey will be potus, we will have 100 (r) senators and 435 (r) representatives.

We will fight then, as long as it is the time and on the right hill.

Posted by: A guy named rheinhold(thats REINCE to whacko paymeite$) at November 25, 2013 03:16 PM (nkPV9)

151 The Democrats have intentionally brought the Cambodian Killing Fields to America. Diversity.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 25, 2013 03:16 PM (FlRtG)

152 I fought like hell over this issue. I was excoriated, scorched, ostracized, called a racist, bigot, et al.

And that was just from my fellow Republicans.

Posted by: navybrat at November 25, 2013 03:16 PM (/nZv0)

153 99 Cruz did not "get lucky"

He was right. He is smart. He and Palin are the only ones worthy of any trust.

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 06:54 PM (zOTsN)

That is my current working theory as well.

Sarah Palin is a fucking Genius compared to everyone else on the field of battle.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 25, 2013 03:16 PM (XnALK)

154 142 AlexTheChick, Even more damning m'lady is the admission they editorialize based on partisan needs of the day even if we were right we must be wrong because our being right means their preference was wrong.. Their cognitive decision tree is a mobius strip.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 25, 2013 03:17 PM (9jfyN)

155 You know the Press was really pretty investigative in 2008. Ask Joe the Plumber.

Posted by: --- at November 25, 2013 03:17 PM (MMC8r)

156 This explains all the "palliative care" centers I've noticed springing up locally over the last couple of years. I wondered what was driving it.

Posted by: Purp at November 25, 2013 07:15 PM (Xlbr

Well, someone had to step up and redistribute the current longevity trend, just to be fair!

Posted by: Hrothgar (Medicare and DMV Administraitor) at November 25, 2013 03:18 PM (XdnQT)

157 147 Goldilocks, Goldilocks there are other forms of rebuttal.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 25, 2013 03:18 PM (9jfyN)

158 123 Conservatives need to start their own knockout game.

We will start with the MSM and proceed from there.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 25, 2013 07:05 PM (iy7de)

Been saying this for a while. I like the idea of "journalists" wondering if they are going to be mouth punched by the people they malign and injure with their Partisan advocacy.

Fearfully Looking over their shoulder is exactly the state I want them in.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 25, 2013 03:19 PM (XnALK)

159 Invest in morphine manufacturers...

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 25, 2013 03:19 PM (Xlbr8)

160 146 139 Mike Hammer, It's Lad10077's birthday, we were pondering a game of Roundheads and Cavaliers. Posted by: sven ---------------- I dunno...., didn't the Rump Parliament come about during that period? Makes me nervous. On the other hand, there must have been some burning-at-the-stake also..., so..., OK, go for it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 25, 2013 03:20 PM (aDwsi)

161 Invest in America.

Send me a Big a$$ donation and forget about $arah payme. She's toxic to the cause.

Posted by: A guy named rheinhold(thats REINCE to whacko paymeite$) at November 25, 2013 03:21 PM (nkPV9)

162 136 I hate to say it, but once Obamacare is up and running, there are going to be a LOT of people literally flipping out over things like the death panels. The stupid libs think that since Obama smiles a lot and hates the same people they do that he will take care of them. Boy are they in for a rude awakening. Forget $$$ and the messes people are dealing with now when they start deciding who lives and dies, it will get ugly.

Posted by: Baldy at November 25, 2013 07:09 PM (2bql3)

The useful idiots always end up against the wall in the end. The reason they don't learn this lesson from history is because they simply don't picture themselves as the useful idiots. They think they are smart and indispensable.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 25, 2013 03:21 PM (XnALK)

163 You people make it sounds like this may require more than just being "The Happy Conservative Warrior". Tell me more about this games of Pikes and Heads. I'm intrigued.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 25, 2013 03:21 PM (6/+vz)

164 130 The MFM got a lot of help marginalizing Palin from our republican "leadership"

Posted by: Thunderb at November 25, 2013 07:07 PM (zOTsN)

Yup. Products of Ivy league snob factories tend to look down on others who didn't go to fancy schools. And then how dare she actually challenge the status quo?

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 25, 2013 03:22 PM (XnALK)

165 Been saying this for a while. I like the idea of "journalists" wondering if they are going to be mouth punched by the people they malign and injure with their Partisan advocacy.

Fearfully Looking over their shoulder is exactly the state I want them in.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 25, 2013 07:19 PM (XnALK)

Even if the well deserved retribution to media scum never occurred, having them nervous about being held physically accountable would be a definite plus for society in general.

I keep thinking about Heinlein's polite "armed society"!

Posted by: Hrothgar (Medicare and DMV Administraitor) at November 25, 2013 03:22 PM (XdnQT)

166 OT; Rick Reilly, you are a douchebag. His commentary on injuries in the NFL was whiney and pathetic. How is this guy still employed? He's awful.

Posted by: puddleglum at November 25, 2013 03:23 PM (15w2J)

167
Maybe. A friend has proposed a game called Pikes and Heads.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 25, 2013 07:12 PM (aDwsi)

I've been leaning more towards the Piano wires and Lampposts game myself, but Pikes and Heads would also be fine with me.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 25, 2013 03:24 PM (XnALK)

168

Found this in the comments section of Yahoo News. Amazingly, they actually featured a story about the latest CNN poll, which shows a majority of Americans do not believe Obama is capable of running the country:

Obozo is my Shepherd;

I shall not work.

He maketh me to lie down and watch Oprah:

He leadeth me beside the still factories.

He restoreth my bling bling:

He leadeth me in the paths of idleness for Husseins name sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the sharing of the wealth, I will fear no workfare:

For thou art funding me;

Thy gat and thy blade, they comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of people who actually produce;

Thou annointest my teeth with gold;

Our crack pipes runneth over.

Surely rebates and Earned Income Credits shall follow me all the days of my life,

and I will dwell in the House of the Obozo forever...

Amen!

Posted by: Donna V. at November 25, 2013 03:24 PM (R3gO3)

169 Posted by: D-Lamp at November 25, 2013 07:24 PM (XnALK)

Is lamppost installation a shovel ready job?

Posted by: Hrothgar (Medicare and DMV Administraitor) at November 25, 2013 03:25 PM (XdnQT)

170 In Pikes and Heads ... there are certainly Sackcrete and Five Gallon Bucket ready jobs.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 25, 2013 03:27 PM (6/+vz)

171 169 Posted by: D-Lamp at November 25, 2013 07:24 PM (XnALK)

Is lamppost installation a shovel ready job?

Posted by: Hrothgar (Medicare and DMV Administraitor) at November 25, 2013 07:25 PM (XdnQT)

You only use the shovels if you want them unconscious during the experience.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 25, 2013 03:29 PM (XnALK)

172 We're here for you.

Posted by: Suicide Booths, Inc. at November 25, 2013 03:30 PM (MMC8r)

173 Halp-erin , read the papers , boy.

Posted by: Sarah Palin at November 25, 2013 03:30 PM (AWmfW)

174 You are mad now but you are still going to vote for me in 16.

Posted by: Prince Jebward Bush the 467th at November 25, 2013 03:31 PM (nkPV9)

175 This is why halprerin isn't a comedian. Missed the class on "timing is everything"

Posted by: RIK at November 25, 2013 03:32 PM (vQxm0)

176 If Sarah Palin were to give an Inauguration Speech in front of the despicable traitor (before he was carted off to prison) and proclaimed "Our long national nightmare is over!" I am pretty sure I would have a spontaneous ejaculation lasting about a month.

Posted by: turfmann at November 25, 2013 03:35 PM (GgGgG)

177
For all her faults, it's amazing just how RIGHT-ON-THE-MONEY the dumb, redneck State College Snowbilly was compared to those wicked smahrt Ivy League blue-bloods.

Why, it's almost as if the only thing most students get out of an Ivy League education is a bitchin' list of contacts on their Rolodex.......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 25, 2013 03:47 PM (TIIx5)

178 But what about Mitt Romney giving some woman cancer then dancing on her grave?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 25, 2013 03:47 PM (JivuR)

179 And if the death panels are as biased against conservatives as the IRS was found to be, the elderly Tea-Party member suffering from cancer will be sent to the Cox Health Clinic at Walmart. The progressive gets the full-ride at Sloan Kettering.

Posted by: PC14 at November 25, 2013 03:57 PM (fKasg)

180 What Mr. Halperin does not recognize is there is another death panel with him and his fellow lackey dogs zeroed in. You can run, run, run, but sooner or later there is no place to hide. Let the game begin and may the odds be ever in your disfavor.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 25, 2013 04:35 PM (hpgw1)

181 ....will only choose death for the over-privileged and undesirable. Like Republicans. Or white people.

Wait until they have to outlaw the ritual Viking funerals when the berserkers start acting up.

Posted by: Lester at November 25, 2013 04:46 PM (2UPXV)

182 I was against die Early before I was for it.

Posted by: Alan Grayson at November 25, 2013 04:57 PM (8/dgB)

183 You'll be lucky if you get morphine. Think about your alternatives at that point.

Posted by: pawn at November 25, 2013 05:05 PM (xxdkI)

184 "Including people here who are now crowing about JEFcare's failure, but could wait to crap all over Palin and Cruz"

Mmmhmmm. Now tell me about Palin's efforts as governor to stop Obamacare. Oh, right. She retreated to FaceBook, where it's much safer. But hey, donate to her PAC.

We're the Right. We mock the Left for worshiping their heroes like Obama. What the hell is wrong with some of us!? Why are there Republicans trying to build temples to Palin and Cruz, who may say the right things but have accomplished jack squat so far?

Seriously. "One time someone said a thing!" is not Coolidge-esque, let alone Reaganesque.

Posted by: Shoot Me at November 25, 2013 06:46 PM (qiXMt)

185 Hard to resist the urge to print out the right-leaning avalanche of concern, vetting, warnings, apoplectic pleas made to wave the country away from Obamacare. Is Halperin suffering some obscure retroactive aphasia? I'm pretty sure he and other "mainstreamers" were scouring Tea Party rally footage for Hitler mustaches, not sitting down with Obama critics for in depth, penetrating follow-up questions. When people were screaming "kill the bill!" they were not effing around for the heck of it all. ...but then I think of Oprah and her recent comments and I sit down and shut up, get busy dyin'. Who can violate an Oprah shame-decree? Not moi.

Posted by: Ipsophakto at November 25, 2013 10:53 PM (Jyk6y)

186 @184: Palin was not Governor of Alaska when Obamacare was passed. Kinda hard to fight it as Governor when you're not the Governor.

Posted by: Nunya Bizness at November 25, 2013 11:38 PM (Iu4kL)

187 Halperin is just like Barry Almighty in that he shifts the blame. Instead of stepping up, apologize and admit they were wrong. They owe Palin an apology and thank her for instead of reading Time magazine and the NY Times as all the elites do, seems she was reading Obamacare (before it was passed).

Posted by: Facts Don't Matter at November 26, 2013 06:01 AM (5/FN2)

188 185: "Is Halperin suffering some obscure retroactive aphasia? " Posted by: Ipsophakto at November 26, 2013 02:53 AM (Jyk6y)" You must remember that for the contemporary MSM journalist, the number one job responsibility they have is not reporting the news and supplying factual analysis, but doing whatever it takes to get Democrats elected/re-elected. The number two job responsibility is helping the Democrats further their agenda. For the bulk of these "reporters", they knew all of this stuff about Obamacare from the beginning. I'm sure there are some dullard MSM-types who believed all the crap coming from the administration was true and have now been caught off-guard, but most were following their preferred party line -keeping silent about all the bad stuff, calling the Republicans idiots and bigots for criticizing the law and assuring everybody that the Administration's claims were completely true. Back then, helping Democrats get elected and furthering their agenda required these "reporters" to report Administration lies as the truth, and lie outright themselves. Now, helping the Democrats get elected requires them to get this all off the table. Lying about it won't work anymore, because the law is beginning to impact people, and they now know the truth. So, these "journalists" are just coming clean. Whatever excuses they may make to explain their lies ( we couldn't dig into Obamacare specifics because of the Romney campaign!?!? WTF, seriously?) don't really matter. They're just getting everything out there, in the hopes that the Democrats will take their lumps now and have sufficient time to recover by the 2014 midterms -they hope that the effects of the botched O-care rollout, O-care sticker shock, and the disgust and anger people have at being lied to will wear off enough for Democrats to hold on to the Senate.

Posted by: Captain Glenn Quagmire at November 26, 2013 09:54 AM (1o4B5)

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