November 14, 2013

NYT Compares Obama to... Bush?
— Ace

At Hot Air. I'd quote more, but they're blocking me.

Barack Obama won the presidency by exploiting a political environment that devoured George W. Bush in a second term plagued by sinking credibility, failed legislative battles, fractured world relations and revolts inside his own party.

Mr. Obama is now threatened by a similar toxic mix. The disastrous rollout of his health care law not only threatens the rest of his agenda but has also raised questions about his competence in the same way that the Bush administrationÂ’s botched response to Hurricane Katrina undermined any semblance of Republican efficiency.

And, Open Thread.

I apologize for bailing early three nights in a row, but for some crazy reason, I actually have social commitments this week (which I'm not at all happy about).

Tonight's meeting is about actual political business, so it's not just slackin'.

Posted by: Ace at 01:33 PM | Comments (472)
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1 Hope she's worth it, Ace!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 01:34 PM (olDqf)

2 And, foist!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 01:34 PM (olDqf)

3 2

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at November 14, 2013 01:34 PM (HVff2)

4 Word of the week by Ace & his cobs, slacking/slackers.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at November 14, 2013 01:35 PM (HVff2)

5 Finished the last of that ghastly enema drink. Now, I've got the Trotsky's.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 01:35 PM (olDqf)

6 So not colossal, historic failure, just typical 2nd term bump in the road?
Uh huh, sure.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2013 01:35 PM (JRmiD)

7 Why is Hot Air blocking you, Ace?

Posted by: mama wingr at November 14, 2013 01:36 PM (P6QsQ)

8 All is not lost for Obama. There still are folks even stupider than him ...


Militant Islamist rebels in Syria linked to al-Qaeda have asked for “understanding and forgiveness” for cutting off and putting on display the wrong man’s head.

In a public appearance filmed and posted online, members of Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, one brandishing a knife, held up a bearded head before a crowd in Aleppo. They triumphantly described the execution of what they said was a member of an Iraqi Shia militia fighting for President Bashar al-Assad.

But the head was recognised from the video as originally belonging to a member of Ahrar al-Sham, a Sunni Islamist rebel group that often fights alongside ISIS though it does not share its al-Qaeda ideology.

After inquiries, an ISIS spokesman admitted he was Mohammed Fares, an Ahrar commander reported missing some days ago. This could not be independently confirmed, but in an earlier video of a speech by Mr Fares he bears a close resemblance to the severed head in the later video.

Posted by: Semi-Anonymous at November 14, 2013 01:36 PM (e8kgV)

9

We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House


Posted by: John McCain at November 14, 2013 01:36 PM (Pr6hk)

10 Pretty bad when they have to cite their own lies to find a benchmark for Obama's actual performance!

Posted by: t-bird at November 14, 2013 01:36 PM (FcR7P)

11 Isn't apologizing a sign of weakness?

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at November 14, 2013 01:36 PM (HVff2)

12 Ewok Culinary Politics - To eat raw a Speederbike Trooper or cook them first after tenderizing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2013 01:36 PM (0fdrC)

13 I imagine there will be a LOT of really lively Thanksgiving family get-togethers this year.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 14, 2013 01:36 PM (N/Sup)

14 I actually have social commitments this week (which I'm not at all happy about) Dang, I must be a slacker. I never wear a tux for hobo huntin'

Posted by: Adriane... at November 14, 2013 01:37 PM (jdRXP)

15 "Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 05:35 PM"

If you haven't read Dave Barry's colonoscopy column, you need to.  But since you've already drunk the vile stuff, make sure you're in the bathroom when you start laughing.  Just sayin'...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 14, 2013 01:37 PM (knoK7)

16 Hurry up Ace, you're running late for the meeting.

Posted by: Union of Political Blog slackers Local #22 at November 14, 2013 01:37 PM (ugAvG)

17 I like how they show an unplanned natural disaster, combined with local Democrat corruption and false media spin as something that could have been prevented by Bush/GOP. I have two words for the Times: Walter Duranty. That, and go to hell.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 01:37 PM (olDqf)

18 And, then there was hurricane Sandy... People are still hurting from the no-help o-administration.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Dancing With Myself at November 14, 2013 01:38 PM (IXrOn)

19 bush?  well, he is a bottom

Posted by: Reggie Love at November 14, 2013 01:38 PM (Pr6hk)

20 Only ace would see banging his girlfriend as a chore...

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 01:38 PM (kkbgQ)

21 Ace is folding up early?  That ought to put a crease in all the slack(er)s.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 14, 2013 01:38 PM (N/Sup)

22 They only WISH history would be so kind to Obama.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 01:38 PM (DmNpO)

23 Perhaps overwhelming shame will cause some of these assholes to commit hare krishna.

Posted by: kathysaysso at November 14, 2013 01:38 PM (6H6o8)

24 Have fun, listen to some ancient rock, and tell a rancid joke or two, Ace. Enjoy the evening.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 14, 2013 01:38 PM (eaIpn)

25 Trotsky was a Wrecker

Posted by: J. Djugashvili, former mass murderer at November 14, 2013 01:39 PM (omBWL)

26 15 "Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 05:35 PM" If you haven't read Dave Barry's colonoscopy column, you need to. But since you've already drunk the vile stuff, make sure you're in the bathroom when you start laughing. Just sayin'... Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 14, 2013 05:37 PM (knoK7) Will have to find that. Gives new meaning to the term "trickle down." Anyway, this is my 4th in 10 years; wanted to get it in before my insurance goes away.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 01:39 PM (olDqf)

27 Your move, Senator Cruz.

Posted by: Mr. Powerstroke Super Duty 4X4 King Ranch Edition at November 14, 2013 01:39 PM (LSJmV)

28 Only ace would see banging his girlfriend as a chore... It's the blowing her up part that's a chore.

Posted by: t-bird at November 14, 2013 01:39 PM (FcR7P)

29 Wow. It's almost like POTUS second term is a disaster waiting to happen. Who could have ever seen this coming?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 14, 2013 01:39 PM (QZkRD)

30 Martinis for everyone!

Posted by: MTF at November 14, 2013 01:39 PM (B5y+v)

31 ObamaCare is not the hill to fight on

Posted by: John Boehner at November 14, 2013 01:40 PM (Pr6hk)

32 12 Ewok Culinary Politics - To eat raw a Speederbike Trooper or cook them first after tenderizing. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2013 05:36 PM (0fdrC) You've been unbanned! Yay!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 01:40 PM (olDqf)

33 Will the insurance commissioners refuse to implement Landrieu's bill also?

Posted by: elliot m at November 14, 2013 01:40 PM (zPich)

34 "Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 05:39 PM "


Here ya go.  Enjoy.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2009/02/11/427603/

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 14, 2013 01:40 PM (knoK7)

35 Off to a cocktail party!  Woot!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 14, 2013 01:40 PM (lVPtV)

36 Yea, but then they start in with the knee pads a couple of paragraphs later.  Its all the R's fault...

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 14, 2013 01:40 PM (Xlbr8)

37 how exactly did the Bush Administration botch the Katrina thing? I vaguely recall Bush urging evacuation before the hurricane, and since Bush was less precise than he could have been, the Dems in Louisiana just went ahead and crapped all over the place.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 14, 2013 01:40 PM (bJm7W)

38 Of course most of GW Bush's supposed incompetence was manufactured by the press.

Posted by: steevy at November 14, 2013 01:40 PM (zqvg6)

39 29 Wow. It's almost like POTUS second term is a disaster waiting to happen. Who could have ever seen this coming? Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 14, 2013 05:39 PM (QZkRD) The wait is over, it seems.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 01:40 PM (olDqf)

40 Speaking of ancient rock: Red Rider - Lunatic Fringe Turn It UP http://youtu.be/sTFVMMCwsss

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 14, 2013 01:40 PM (eaIpn)

41 Giving colonoscopies in the evening now?

Posted by: tubal at November 14, 2013 01:40 PM (2NeaA)

42 “Making sure consumers have secure, affordable coverage is health plans' top priority. The only reason consumers are getting notices about their current coverage changing is because the ACA requires all policies to cover a broad range of benefits that go beyond what many people choose to purchase today.

“Changing the rules after health plans have already met the requirements of the law could destabilize the market and result in higher premiums for consumers. Premiums have already been set for next year based on an assumption of when consumers will be transitioning to the new marketplace. If now fewer younger and healthier people choose to purchase coverage in the exchange, premiums will increase and there will be fewer choices for consumers. Additional steps must be taken to stabilize the marketplace and mitigate the adverse impact on consumers.”

Posted by: Hemi-Demi-Semi-Anonymous at November 14, 2013 01:41 PM (e8kgV)

43 Obama,on the other hand,is truly incompetent.

Posted by: steevy at November 14, 2013 01:41 PM (zqvg6)

44 OK, open thread. How many of you winterize - as in blowing out the lines with a compressor - your in-ground sprinkler systems? We've only had this kind of system in a cold climate for a short time. First year we did nada without problem. Last year we had the prinklers turn on during a cold snap. But closing the main valve solved that with no resulting damage. Can't decide if it's worth the hassle and expense of hiring someone to winterize.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 14, 2013 01:41 PM (zDsvJ)

45 *blinks*

The Hangover for Grumpy Old Men - Last Vegas.

http://youtu.be/TvK3m0wJutI

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2013 01:41 PM (0fdrC)

46 Does Obama have a Twitter account ?

Posted by: #OccupyAnthonyWeiner'sShorts at November 14, 2013 01:41 PM (e8kgV)

47 I actually have social commitments this week SE Cupp? or her trash?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at November 14, 2013 01:41 PM (1hM1d)

48 Of course most of GW Bush's supposed incompetence was manufactured by the press. *** Obama will never be half the man GW is.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 01:42 PM (DmNpO)

49 Not to fall into the trap false equivalence laid by the NYT, but... Katrina = natural disaster + incompetent democratic state officials + wall to wall reporting on fake stories of rape and violence. Obamacare = purportedly well-thought out and intentional takeover of 1/6 th of US economy + exclusion of any republican ideas + lie after lie told by Obama and his minions + media branding of all Obamacare critics as racist, extremist, obstructionist, and terrorists + abject failure to figure out the most basic economic and health care policies.

Posted by: LASue at November 14, 2013 01:42 PM (gjIQF)

50 Guess there will be pancakes in the morning for everyone.

Posted by: NCKate at November 14, 2013 01:42 PM (w7CQT)

51 Katrina was bullshit. It wasn't Bush's fault; the state and city screwed up royally. The real thing that screwed Bush was the bloody Iraqi insurgency in 2006. The failure to change strategies in Iraq ultimately gave us ObamaCare.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 14, 2013 01:42 PM (uhAkr)

52 Oh, for Pet's sake, the NYT actually claiming that Bush had a more cooperative opposition party than Obama:

"But unlike Mr. Bush, who faced confrontational but occasionally cooperative Democrats, Mr. Obama has a Republican opposition that has refused to open the door to any legislative fixes to his health care law and has blocked him at virtually every other turn."

What color is the sky in their world?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2013 01:42 PM (JRmiD)

53 Can't decide if it's worth the hassle and expense of hiring someone to winterize. Posted by: Y-not What is this 'winter' thing you speak of?

Posted by: Countrysquire at November 14, 2013 01:42 PM (LSJmV)

54 "The disastrous rollout of his health care law not only threatens the rest of his agenda but has also raised questions about his competence in the same way that the Bush administrationÂ’s botched response to Hurricane Katrina undermined any semblance of Republican efficiency." Take your pick: 1. So the Hurricane Katrina screw up on a much grander and more far reaching scale? 2. Jeebus, bash Bush some more. 3. The mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisiana, both democrats had much more direct responsibility for the Hurricane Katrina response. Not to mention the so-called adults who couldn't get off their asses and leave the city when they had been told to for several days. I hate the NYT. They're imbeciles.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 14, 2013 01:42 PM (QvC2u)

55 Son of a bi...... Best political week in 5 years coming up next week and I'm gonna be out of the country. Bring the hate for me morons!

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2013 01:42 PM (IdRpH)

56 The constant refrain that Katrina was somehow a Republican failure just continues to remind me that we're dealing with people who are either not serious in their discussions of politics or are so willingly disingenuous that they know it's a crock of shit but they'll keep repeating it anyway because it sells well with the LIVs. But I repeat myself.

Posted by: Damasca at November 14, 2013 01:43 PM (YnVdg)

57 No matter what kind of meeting it is, first thing you do is jump up on the table, whip out your dick, and piss all over the other attendees. Establishes dominance.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 14, 2013 01:43 PM (ZshNr)

58 Katrina hit at the end of August.  Many refused to leave because the checks were deposited on the 3rd of Sept.  Also, Ray Nagin made Obama look smart


calendar dates are destiny, man

Posted by: Lanny the poker man at November 14, 2013 01:43 PM (omBWL)

59 " in the same way that the Bush administrationÂ’s botched response to Hurricane Katrina undermined any semblance of Republican efficiency." I can't read any more...

Posted by: chewydog at November 14, 2013 01:44 PM (BUY7X)

60 " The disastrous rollout of his health care law ... has also raised questions about his competence in the same way that the Bush administrationÂ’s botched response to Hurricane Katrina ... ." Was Hurricane Katrina avoidable? Was Hurricane Katrina planned ... for 2 or so years? Hurricane Katrina was really a local/State issue, utterly un-handled by NO and LA ... we saw how Nagin fell apart on national TV. GWB had to step in and handle things ... but there was "posse comitatus" standing in his way. ObamaCare was never necessary and in fact was completely avoidable: do not propose the law. ObamaCare could have been reviewed by the D's ... they apparently chose not to do so ... and they had a year or two ... more if they needed the time. ObamaCare is stunning incompetence.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 14, 2013 01:44 PM (FlRtG)

61 To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, youÂ’d have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at the unraveling of Obamacare.

First, the obligatory caveats. It is no laughing matter that millions of AmericansÂ’ lives have been thrown into anxious chaos as they lose their health insurance, their doctors, their money, or all three. Nor is it particularly amusing to think of the incredible waste of time and tax dollars that has gone into ObamacareÂ’s construction. And the still-unfolding violence that this misbegotten legislation will visit on the economy and our liberties is not funny either. This very magazine has been downright funereal about the brazen and unconstitutional seizure of one-sixth of the economy, and rightly so.

Posted by: Oscar Wilde at November 14, 2013 01:44 PM (e8kgV)

62 I went to look at the Hot Air item and noticed another, Boehner wondering if Obama's "fix" is legal. The Hot Air item made an interesting point: the employer mandate was in the law, the regs causing policies to be cancelled were from the bureaucrats... so maybe the Pres can delay regs from the bureaucrats?
Either way it will create a mess, and I'm sure McCain will be the first to volunteer to help clean it up, but maybe, just maybe...

Posted by: Mallfly at November 14, 2013 01:44 PM (bJm7W)

63 >What is this 'winter' thing you speak of? *smack*

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 14, 2013 01:44 PM (zDsvJ)

64 Hmmm. The Democrat Establishment must be really pissed at Obama. They really are trying to throw him under the bus.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 01:44 PM (M8OWQ)

65 Best political week in 5 years coming up next week and I'm gonna be out of the country. *** Where to this time?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 01:45 PM (DmNpO)

66 The gop will f this up. Somehow. Somehow.

Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 01:45 PM (E0+QH)

67 I want the NYT to go belly up so that all those liberal douches who work for them are stuck trying to get insurance on that pile of crap website.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 14, 2013 01:45 PM (QvC2u)

68 I blame Chief Justice Roberts .. he could have stopped all this and left me blameless.

Posted by: President Barack Obama at November 14, 2013 01:45 PM (e8kgV)

69 I gotta ask, Ace. Are you the 69th Squatch Pride on Twitter? Some 68 tweeters took that handle before you? And please give Chuck Todd some more. Like, "Are you a lying reporter, or just a liar? 'Cause reporting, you ain't." Or, "Who lost his credibility first, you or your boyfriend?" Or, "Is credibility, for NBC 'reporters," sort of like virginity for a BroHo, something she is proud to be without?"

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 14, 2013 01:45 PM (tmFlQ)

70 Would love to see the epic rage going on in the white house tonight ...

Posted by: ET at November 14, 2013 01:45 PM (uGlk8)

71 "Anyway, this is my 4th in 10 years; wanted to get it in before my insurance goes away.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 05:39 PM (olDqf)"



Well, you can always schedule a road trip through Deming, New Mexico.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at November 14, 2013 01:45 PM (BcCwi)

72 "Barack Obama won the presidency by exploiting a political environment that devoured George W. Bush in a second term" "Barack Obama won the presidency by exploiting a|n incredibly favorable Media environment.|"

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 01:46 PM (M8OWQ)

73 Katrina? Bush? It is to laugh. The "Katrina Narrative" was 100% fraudulent from the moment it appeared, nd remains 100% to this day. And yet the Dems REFUSE to let it go. They went ALL IN with the Katrina Narrative. Number of normal Americans who accept that narrartive or care about it? Zero.

Posted by: zombie at November 14, 2013 01:46 PM (+cx5n)

74 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Cajun Caret at November 14, 2013 01:46 PM (UZQM8)

75 Yes, I do miss Bush....

Posted by: mkn at November 14, 2013 01:46 PM (SXu8/)

76 "8 All is not lost for Obama. There still are folks even stupider than him ... Militant Islamist rebels in Syria linked to al-Qaeda have asked for “understanding and forgiveness” for cutting off and putting on display the wrong man’s head." I snorted when I read that. It is now official. I am going to burn in hell.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 14, 2013 01:46 PM (QvC2u)

77 More:

"But Mr. ObamaÂ’s top aides also reject the comparison to the latter half of Mr. BushÂ’s second term. They say Americans lost confidence in Mr. Bush because of a botched disaster recovery and a long and deadly war, while Mr. Obama is struggling to extend health care to millions of people who do not have it"

Has the MSM printed any comparisons of the death tolls in Iraq and Afghanistan under Bush vs. Obama? How about a comparison of the federal disaster recovery efforts of Katrina vs.Sandy?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (JRmiD)

78 The gop will f this up. Somehow. Somehow. *** Because they will react rather than act. They will allow the Dems to set the agenda.... again.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (DmNpO)

79 No helluva job, brownie?

Posted by: NCKate at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (w7CQT)

80 Tonight's meeting is about actual political business, So that's what the kids call it these days? Crazy kids.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (yz6yg)

81 Boehner wondering if Obama's "fix" is legal. Well, who's the judge of legal in this country? Obama, Eric Holder, and/or John Roberts. Oh, and the New York Times.

Posted by: t-bird at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (FcR7P)

82 From the "You can't make this shit up" files comes this gem - "Al-Qaeda In Syria Asks For “Understanding And Forgiveness” After Beheading One of Their Own Fighters Thinking He Was A Shiite"


http://is.gd/0fDymH

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (PZ6/M)

83 Posted by: nerdygirl at November 14, 2013 05:45 PM (QvC2u)

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Nerdygirl - I know you lost your insurance because of Obamacide.  What do you think  will happen for you now, with this latest pronouncement from His Highness?

Posted by: mama wingr at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (P6QsQ)

84 Check out what the NYT editor's blog said today after that disastrous news conference: "But that still leaves us with the disturbing impression — and not for the first time in this administration — that Mr. Obama sometimes shoots from the hip, that he is still struggling to handle the politics of the presidency after nearly five years in office, and that he is surrounded by people who are too incompetent or too weak to help him." Boy, when the NYT --- the Court stenographer for Obama --- slaps you around like that, it's gotta leave a mark!

Posted by: GuyfromNH at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (kbOju)

85 I like having different seasons,would not want spring and summer all year.Fall is my favorite.

Posted by: steevy at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (zqvg6)

86 "73 Katrina? Bush? It is to laugh. The "Katrina Narrative" was 100% fraudulent from the moment it appeared, nd remains 100% to this day. And yet the Dems REFUSE to let it go. They went ALL IN with the Katrina Narrative. Number of normal Americans who accept that narrartive or care about it? Zero. Posted by: zombie at November 14, 2013 05:46 PM (+cx5n)" Agreed. But it's a "powerful story" or whatever.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (M8OWQ)

87 It would be karma for Bush to start trashing Obama right now about what a failure he is.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (uhAkr)

88 "... has also raised questions about his competence in the same way that the Bush administrationÂ’s botched response to Hurricane Katrina undermined any semblance of Republican efficiency."

What passed into legend after Katrina was Bush's offhand "Heckuva job, Brownie," to FEMA head Brown.

I so desperately wanted for one of the GOP senators grilling that arrogant bitch Kathleen Sebelius to snark on her by saying "Heckuva job, Kathy!"

Make the parallel of failure explicit.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (gqT4g)

89 Here's an interesting factoid: The Comintern for the Congress of Oriental Nations went to Baku on the Caspian to whip the Persians, Turks, Caucasians, and Arabs into shape: "The actual train trip to and from Baku was one of the first glimpses some of the foreign members of the Comintern were to get of just how rapidly the Bolshevik bureaucracy had adapted itself to its position as the new privileged class: expensive foods, rare wines, beautiful Caucasian prostitutes. According to a report attributed to John Reed, old Muslim women boarded the train and stripped their charges, lovely girls, some barely fourteen years old, before the delegates—these idealists dedicated to destroying the rotten structure of capitalism and building a better world. It all ended, said Reed, in a drunken sex orgy led by Radek, all in an armored train riding through a countryside whose population was starving. What seemed to disgust Reed was mainly that the girls had been paid for. Now if they had been fine Russian girls who had chosen to engage in sexual intercourse with the delegates, he said, that would have been something else." I read a book called Kremlin Wives. Many of them were young teens who were simply raped by Stalin's henchman. Apparently, if you were raped - your were married to the thug. Then again, a lot of primitive cultures do that and you can't call the ruskies anything but primitive no matter how many billions they have.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 01:47 PM (kkbgQ)

90 33 Will the insurance commissioners refuse to implement Landrieu's bill also? Posted by: elliot m at November 14, 2013 05:40 PM (zPich) See Washington state.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 14, 2013 01:48 PM (/djtm)

91 while Mr. Obama is struggling to extend health care to millions Would have been a lot easier to just let them keep it in the first place.

Posted by: t-bird at November 14, 2013 01:48 PM (FcR7P)

92 And, Ace, see 69 above. I guess I am a 69er too.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 14, 2013 01:48 PM (tmFlQ)

93 @39...two second terms since WWIl haven't been complete disasters: Ike and Dutch. Truman, LBJ, Nixon, Clinton and GWB were shit shows. Add Barry to the list.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 14, 2013 01:48 PM (QZkRD)

94 Remember when NBC(?) interviewed the wrong black people following GW's speech in Jackson Square?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 01:48 PM (DmNpO)

95 I saw Katrina Narrative open for Clifton Chenier at a small club in New Orleans back in '82.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 14, 2013 01:49 PM (N/Sup)

96 CNN Washington DC Bureau.  November 15, 2013

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney seemed very unfocused at the late night press conference.  In spite of intense grilling by Major Garrett over reports of clouds of smoke coming out of the Oval Office, Jay Carney kept saying "dude...'

So the matter of the smoke is still an unknown mystery that needs an answer.

Possible headlines?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2013 01:49 PM (0fdrC)

97 Answering this post from the dead thread:

Sherry - weren't there, in fact, state high-risk pools in existence now for several years? With mostly 'meh' results due to lack of apparent interest?

Posted by: non-purist at November 14, 2013 05:11 PM (afQnV)

Yes, there were pools, mostly for people at the poverty level and to cover children.  They were not well funded and most people who were eligible did not understand how to access them. 




Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 14, 2013 01:49 PM (kXoT0)

98 "9 Obama = Steve Martin/The Jerk
ObamaCare = the optigrab

Posted by: ET at November 14, 2013 05:36 PM (uGlk "

 

 

That is fucking poignant.  I can't think of a more apt description of The Dogeater.  He is the fucking "Jerk." 

Posted by: Barky the Bamboozler at November 14, 2013 01:49 PM (LA7Cm)

99 "77 More: "But Mr. ObamaÂ’s top aides also reject the comparison to the latter half of Mr. BushÂ’s second term. They say Americans lost confidence in Mr. Bush because of a botched disaster recovery and a long and deadly war, while Mr. Obama is struggling to extend health care to millions of people who do not have it" Has the MSM printed any comparisons of the death tolls in Iraq and Afghanistan under Bush vs. Obama? How about a comparison of the federal disaster recovery efforts of Katrina vs.Sandy? Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2013 05:47 PM (JRmiD)" The Media simply decided to stop covering the wars at some point. For some reason. It's almost as if their coverage was merely agitprop.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 01:49 PM (M8OWQ)

100 Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 14, 2013 05:41 PM (zDsvJ) Where are you and how cold does it get?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 14, 2013 01:49 PM (/djtm)

101
We can't handle 4 more years of the Clinton - Obama terrible economic policies. ~ future republican line.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 14, 2013 01:50 PM (iGPSR)

102 "78 The gop will f this up. Somehow. Somehow. *** Because they will react rather than act. They will allow the Dems to set the agenda.... again. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 05:47 PM (DmNpO)" Yep.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 01:50 PM (M8OWQ)

103 >>"...that Mr. Obama sometimes shoots from the hip, that he is still struggling to handle the politics of the presidency after nearly five years in office.."

Make that "still struggling to handle the DUTIES of the presidency".

They act as it it's a figurehead role, but he actually is responsible for performing the duties of his job, not just selling them to the public, er, "folks."

Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2013 01:50 PM (JRmiD)

104 Ynot, we don't winterize here but should be easy if you have (or can borrow) compressor. Just pop up a head in each zone and blow out the water in the line through the rest of the heads.

Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 01:50 PM (E0+QH)

105 Did Ace give us a "mistaken promise"?

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at November 14, 2013 01:50 PM (HVff2)

106

"Now, I've got the Trotsky's."  A bud of mine had picked up his prep kit from the pharmacy during lunch and figured he'd drink the nasty cocktail on his way out the door.  He didn't count on getting stuck in a traffic jam.

Ultimately he agreed with me the leather seats were a lucky option when it came time to clean up the mess. 

Posted by: DanMan at November 14, 2013 01:50 PM (RusNE)

107 Where is Katy Sibilius ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 14, 2013 01:50 PM (nTgAI)

108 As for the ACA To err is human , To forgive Devine. Neither are in my play book. Grown some skin in 2014.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at November 14, 2013 01:50 PM (j6DTo)

109 Going to listen to Levin tonight. See what he's got to scream about. His legal expertise, hopefully, will be flowing.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Dancing With Myself at November 14, 2013 01:50 PM (IXrOn)

110 Jesse Pinkman is reading John Reed. God Bless America.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 14, 2013 01:50 PM (QZkRD)

111 "79 No helluva job, brownie? Posted by: NCKate at November 14, 2013 05:47 PM (w7CQT)" That would be "racist." :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 01:50 PM (M8OWQ)

112 Only had to talk to myself for about 10 minutes to figure out a nood was up.

Posted by: Meremortal at November 14, 2013 01:51 PM (jTKU5)

113 34 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 14, 2013 05:40 PM (knoK7) Thanks! And I almost released a brown jet from laughing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 01:51 PM (olDqf)

114

Katrina  myth  again?  It was  a failed Democrat response.  And the only 'failure'  was in New Orleans.   News Flash.  Katrina hit more than New Orleans.

Fucking bank robbers keep blaming the tellers  for the missing money.

Posted by: polynikes at November 14, 2013 01:51 PM (m2CN7)

115 I still don't get what was so awfully awful about Bush, especially considering that Obama continued all of the policies that the Left complained most about. They had to make his name into a curse. And so they did, I guess.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 14, 2013 01:51 PM (T0NGe)

116 87 It would be karma for Bush to start trashing Obama right now about what a failure he is. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 14, 2013 05:47 PM (uhAkr) He'd never do it, but it would be epic if he would just pop out of a limo and mimic the meme poster on his way to whatever it is he's doing.

Posted by: Cajun Caret at November 14, 2013 01:51 PM (UZQM8)

117 I was led to believe there would be no more 'winters'

Posted by: Al Gore at November 14, 2013 01:52 PM (Pr6hk)

118 >>The Media simply decided to stop covering the wars at some point. For some reason. It's almost as if their coverage was merely agitprop.

I'm pretty sure that we've lost more soldiers under Obama because of his announced pull-out dates, more stringent ROEs, and other changes to accommodate the locals' sensibilities and whatnot.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2013 01:52 PM (JRmiD)

119

Did Ace give us a "mistaken promise"?

 

Substandard explanation

Posted by: meh at November 14, 2013 01:52 PM (W2qJe)

120 95 I saw Katrina Narrative open for Clifton Chenier at a small club in New Orleans back in '82. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 14, 2013 05:49 PM (N/Sup) I saw Sandra Fluke open for everyone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 01:52 PM (olDqf)

121 *waves to J.J. Sefton*

Yes been released from the slammer.  Until my ISP rehomes me again.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2013 01:52 PM (0fdrC)

122 Did some one just keep serving Psyiicybyn Mushrooms to his staff..WTF This smells of MK Ultra.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at November 14, 2013 01:52 PM (j6DTo)

123 surrounded by people who are too incompetent or too weak to help him

Nobody with NPD is going to hire people who might steal their thunder.  They hire knob polishers and incomps who can be blamed when necessary

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 14, 2013 01:52 PM (Xlbr8)

124 "84 Check out what the NYT editor's blog said today after that disastrous news conference: "But that still leaves us with the disturbing impression — and not for the first time in this administration — that Mr. Obama sometimes shoots from the hip, that he is still struggling to handle the politics of the presidency after nearly five years in office, and that he is surrounded by people who are too incompetent or too weak to help him." Boy, when the NYT --- the Court stenographer for Obama --- slaps you around like that, it's gotta leave a mark! Posted by: GuyfromNH at November 14, 2013 05:47 PM (kbOju)" Well, at least they removed that "boy" at the end. :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 01:53 PM (M8OWQ)

125 Posted by: Barky the Bamboozler at November 14, 2013 05:49 PM (LA7Cm) Stay away from the oil cans!

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 14, 2013 01:53 PM (/djtm)

126 68 I blame Chief Justice Roberts .. he could have stopped all this and left me blameless. Posted by: President Barack Obama at November 14, 2013 05:45 PM (e8kgV) Don't think he won't when the next suit comes to SCOTUS.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 01:53 PM (olDqf)

127 So even the NYT can't ignore the Suck that is Barky? Small win there.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at November 14, 2013 01:53 PM (2iHnw)

128 An American with a rare visa to visit Moscow for an academic conference in the 1950s takes an evening stroll. He comes upon a news stand and asks, in stilted Russian, if he can buy a newspaper. "Sure," the seller says. "Which one do you want?" The American ponders the few choices in front of him. He reaches for a paper. "Oh you don't want that one," the seller says. "Why not?" asks the American. "That one's called "Pravda." It's filled with lies and communist propaganda. Around here we call it "The Russian New York Times."

Posted by: zombie at November 14, 2013 01:53 PM (+cx5n)

129 Alternate NYT headline - "Water is wet."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2013 01:54 PM (0fdrC)

130 found this clip over at the daily caller TN Student Speaks Out About Common Core, Teacher Evaluations, and Educational Data http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PprP5TCZBRI#t=8

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Dancing With Myself at November 14, 2013 01:54 PM (IXrOn)

131 "87 It would be karma for Bush to start trashing Obama right now about what a failure he is. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 14, 2013 05:47 PM (uhAkr)" Nah. There are certain traditions and maintaining these traditions is actually somewhat important, even though Leftists don't agree.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 01:54 PM (M8OWQ)

132 >>Katrina myth again? It was a failed Democrat response. And the only 'failure' was in New Orleans.

Yeah, Haley Barbour managed to quite effectively handle the Katrina recovery in Mississippi where entire towns were wiped out. But in the MSM, crickets.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2013 01:54 PM (JRmiD)

133 >>Where are you and how cold does it get? Utah - Wasatch Front. We get below freezing, but not a lot of super-cold weather. Nothing compared to Chicago or Vermont, for example.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 14, 2013 01:54 PM (zDsvJ)

134 Miss Me Yet?

Posted by: James from Plains at November 14, 2013 01:55 PM (Pr6hk)

135 88 Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 05:47 PM (kkbgQ) Was it rape-ski rape-ski? Nyet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 01:55 PM (olDqf)

136 I apologize for bailing early three nights in a row, but for some crazy reason, I actually have social commitments this week (which I'm not at all happy about). You should stop producing gay porn, then.

Posted by: © Sponge at November 14, 2013 01:55 PM (xmcEQ)

137 I guess blond, ginger or brunette wear condom or not could become political.

Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 01:55 PM (nqBYe)

138 "two second terms since WWIl haven't been complete disasters: Ike and Dutch."

Reagan barely qualifies as successful in his second term.

He never really got a handle on rolling back the Great Society welfare state during his first term. He correctly prioritized instead working to roll back Soviet expansionism with rearmament and aggressive diplomacy.

By the later years of his second term, it was clear that the Soviet tide had peaked and was beginning to ebb rapidly. Reagan should at that point have been able to shift focus back to domestic affairs and to decisively undoing LBJ's awful legacy.

Instead, the self-created disaster of Iran-Contra got in the way. No serious attempt was ever possible to do anything other than preserving the Presidency from that vortex.

Note that domestic spending as a percentage of GDP was higher in January of 1989, when Reagan departed, than it was in January of 1981, when he arrived.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 14, 2013 01:55 PM (gqT4g)

139 Boot on the throat?!   End this SCFOAMF once and for all?!   Don't let him up?! Grab 'im by the nose and kick 'im in the ass?!  Cripple him for the rest of the term?!

Heavens!  No!

"We look forward to finally working together with the President to find common ground and a bipartisan solutions to this and the many other serious problems facing our nation as the American peo...blah,,,, blah,,,, blah,,,,"

Net GOP gain in Senate in 2014 - zilch, nada, goose egg.

Posted by: GOP Establishment Brain Trust at November 14, 2013 01:55 PM (Xv7f/)

140 click through the links
NYTimes serves up an ad
HotAir gets a hit and a referral (and a taste? of the ad revenue?)

"Mr. Obama has a Republican opposition that has refused to open the door to any legislative fixes to his health care law and has blocked him at virtually every other turn."

"They say Americans lost confidence in Mr. Bush because of a botched disaster recovery and a long and deadly war, while Mr. Obama is struggling to extend health care to millions of people who do not have it."

Oh, and the advertisers at NYTimes have no idea how many internet (free riders) have adblock and never see the ad for which The Times sends them a bill for serving.

So the real news is, Obama is trying to save everyone from the evil insurance companies who have canceled your insurance while the rich republicans, in bed with the evil insurance companies are blocking everything Obama is trying to do.


Posted by: But Wait! There's More! at November 14, 2013 01:56 PM (mKOlt)

141 Bush was so much better than Obama or Clinton. In spite of his being pretty centrist. He made some messes, but I'd take him back in a heartbeat. Rather have zombie Cal Coolidge actually.

Posted by: tubal at November 14, 2013 01:56 PM (2NeaA)

142 So even the NYT can't ignore the Suck that is Barky?

*****

He's the suck that keeps on suckin'

Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 14, 2013 01:56 PM (S5LPT)

143 "I actually have social commitments this week (which I'm not at all happy about) " Is that a euphemism? Ya know, like "Hiking the Appalachian Trail"?

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 14, 2013 01:56 PM (QvC2u)

144 I blame Chief Justice Roberts .. he could have stopped all this and left me blameless.
Posted by: President Barack Obama at November 14, 2013 05:45 PM (e8kgV)


Don't think he won't when the next suit comes to SCOTUS.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 05:53 PM (olDqf)


---------------


I'm wondering if the Dems will let some of those appeals fast track themselves right on up to SCOTUS, and let it quietly be known to the leftie judges that they want Obamacare struck down.  It lets them off the hook and they get to save face.  ..... Not their fault that it didn't work.... what could they do...... stupid court.......

Posted by: mama wingr at November 14, 2013 01:56 PM (P6QsQ)

145 Ace - FWIW, the afternoon talk jock, Pete Kaliner, on WWNC quoted a couple of your tweets this afternoon.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 01:56 PM (aDwsi)

146 "Thanks! And I almost released a brown jet from laughing. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 05:51 PM"

No worries!  And I did warn you, didn't I?  LOL

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 14, 2013 01:56 PM (knoK7)

147 "88 Here's an interesting factoid: The Comintern for the Congress of Oriental Nations went to Baku on the Caspian to whip the Persians, Turks, Caucasians, and Arabs into shape: "The actual train trip to and from Baku was one of the first glimpses some of the foreign members of the Comintern were to get of just how rapidly the Bolshevik bureaucracy had adapted itself to its position as the new privileged class: expensive foods, rare wines, beautiful Caucasian prostitutes. According to a report attributed to John Reed, old Muslim women boarded the train and stripped their charges, lovely girls, some barely fourteen years old, before the delegates—these idealists dedicated to destroying the rotten structure of capitalism and building a better world. It all ended, said Reed, in a drunken sex orgy led by Radek, all in an armored train riding through a countryside whose population was starving. What seemed to disgust Reed was mainly that the girls had been paid for. Now if they had been fine Russian girls who had chosen to engage in sexual intercourse with the delegates, he said, that would have been something else." I read a book called Kremlin Wives. Many of them were young teens who were simply raped by Stalin's henchman. Apparently, if you were raped - your were married to the thug. Then again, a lot of primitive cultures do that and you can't call the ruskies anything but primitive no matter how many billions they have. Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 05:47 PM (kkbgQ)" The Bolsheviks... had no class. To put it politely.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 01:56 PM (M8OWQ)

148 Boot on the throat?! End this SCFOAMF once and for all?! Don't let him up?! Grab 'im by the nose and kick 'im in the ass?! Cripple him for the rest of the term?! Are you not entertained!?!?!?

Posted by: Commodus at November 14, 2013 01:57 PM (yz6yg)

149

Tonight's meeting is about actual political business, so it's not just slackin'.

Posted by: Ace at 05:33 PM       ----------------------------------------------     Psssst.  *whispering*   Ace is running for congress.   Pass  it on.

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 01:58 PM (66ULQ)

150 Let's not forget the cornucopia of other ridiculous things Obama said today: that the health care website is just soooo complicated - because this website, unlike any other in the world, must use data to run comparisons (so its like Travelocity, after he previously compared it to Kayak) + admitting that the government cannot do "IT" competently. (Hello, NSA? Registering illegals?) Oh, what a day.

Posted by: LASue at November 14, 2013 01:58 PM (gjIQF)

151 Ace - FWIW, the afternoon talk jock, Pete Kaliner, on WWNC quoted a couple of your tweets this afternoon. Posted by: Mike Hammer Addendum: Roughly 50,000 listeners

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 01:58 PM (aDwsi)

152 What the frick on Katrina? I swear, at that time, one would have thought dubya was sitting in a boat in the gulf blowing as hard as he could.

Posted by: Justamom at November 14, 2013 01:58 PM (Sptt8)

153 Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 05:56 PM (aDwsi) I'll have to check this WWNC of which you speak.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 14, 2013 01:58 PM (/djtm)

154 "The gop will f this up. Somehow. Somehow." The "somehow" is easy to predict. They will be stupid enough to get trapped into "fixing" things, which will mean Obamacide will be enshrined in Americans lives forever. Like all govt, all they have to do is stay the fuck out of the way. That's not in the nature of politicians, so bend over again.

Posted by: Meremortal at November 14, 2013 01:59 PM (jTKU5)

155 136 88 Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 05:47 PM (kkbgQ) Was it rape-ski rape-ski? Nyet. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 05:55 PM (olDqf) It was love -- Laurentia Beria style!

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 01:59 PM (kkbgQ)

156 139.  You're right about Iran-contra hobbling Reagan's second term

The irony of Iran-contra galls.  Remember, it was supposedly all about the mortal threat Reagan posed to the Constitutional separation of powers by ignoring the will of Congress as expressed in legislation.

Now, the Dems cheer when the President ignores Acts of Congress.

Posted by: GOP Establishment Brain Trust at November 14, 2013 01:59 PM (Xv7f/)

157
At Hot Air. I'd quote more, but they're blocking me.









For some unknown reason, this made me laugh out loud.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 14, 2013 02:00 PM (TIIx5)

158 I swear, at that time, one would have thought dubya was sitting in a boat in the gulf blowing as hard as he could. I would have become a Republican for that.

Posted by: Barney Frank at November 14, 2013 02:00 PM (yz6yg)

159 "Bush was so much better than Obama or Clinton. In spite of his being pretty centrist. He made some messes, but I'd take him back in a heartbeat."

The biggest mess Bush made is still with us. In the Oval Office.

Bush 43's incompetence paved the way for Obama. Just as his father Bush 41's incompetence paved the way for Clinton.

The Bush family: the gift that keeps on giving. Can't wait for "Jeb!" to jump in.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 14, 2013 02:00 PM (gqT4g)

160 "89 "... has also raised questions about his competence in the same way that the Bush administrationÂ’s botched response to Hurricane Katrina undermined any semblance of Republican efficiency." What passed into legend after Katrina was Bush's offhand "Heckuva job, Brownie," to FEMA head Brown. I so desperately wanted for one of the GOP senators grilling that arrogant bitch Kathleen Sebelius to snark on her by saying "Heckuva job, Kathy!" Make the parallel of failure explicit. Posted by: torquewrench at November 14, 2013 05:47 PM (gqT4g)" Sound bites make for excellent propaganda. They can easily be leveraged to "agitate the masses" and discredit (or shame) one's political opponents.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 02:00 PM (M8OWQ)

161 Just pop up a head in each zone

If it was installed right there will be a fitting right where the feed water comes out of the house and a cutoff inside.  Cutoff the water inside.  Hook any old air up.  Run each zone til it's dry via the controller.

Posted by: DaveA at November 14, 2013 02:00 PM (DL2i+)

162 110 Jesse Pinkman is reading John Reed. God Bless America. Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 14, 2013 05:50 PM (QZkRD) No, I'm reading Richard Grenier: Bolshevism for the 80s http://goo.gl/fK2ZoZ

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 02:00 PM (kkbgQ)

163 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2013 05:35 PM Do not skip the part about using petroleum jelly!!

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 14, 2013 02:00 PM (QvC2u)

164 JJ hope you are ok, that's a lot of procedures in that time frame

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at November 14, 2013 02:00 PM (HVff2)

165

You're right about Iran-contra hobbling Reagan's second term

 

Yes it did, but you have to admit whether you like him or not,  Ollie North's testimony in front of Congress was epic. 

Posted by: polynikes at November 14, 2013 02:01 PM (m2CN7)

166 @139...helps my point. Reagan's second term sucked too. Let's get Ike for being too soft on commies, and we have a clean sweep...no second terms for POTUS. Wake up, Citizens.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 14, 2013 02:01 PM (QZkRD)

167 Back to writing.

From 2006 how I felt and still feel about Nagin and Blanco
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2006/08/trapped-in-ooompa-loompa-land.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2013 02:01 PM (0fdrC)

168 This is so typical of liberals.....the once in a blue moon event where they dare criticize King Barrack, has to be accompanied by a "yeah but Bush also did something even worse"

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 14, 2013 02:02 PM (0LHZx)

169 "91 while Mr. Obama is struggling to extend health care to millions Would have been a lot easier to just let them keep it in the first place. Posted by: t-bird at November 14, 2013 05:48 PM (FcR7P)" Easier? Yes. More Communist? No. Priorities. Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 02:03 PM (M8OWQ)

170 The real news is describing the situation as FUBAR, yeah that's about right.

Posted by: sally at November 14, 2013 02:03 PM (Nx76m)

171

If the press wants to  play the game,  Clinton's incompetence resulted in 9/11.  

Posted by: polynikes at November 14, 2013 02:03 PM (m2CN7)

172 TN Student Speaks Out About Common Core, Teacher Evaluations, and Educational Data Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Dancing With Myself at November 14, 2013 05:54 PM (IXrOn)
I received a large postcard thing in the mail today "advertising" Common Core.
I don't know why. Perhaps they want me to contact state legislators but they didn't say so.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 14, 2013 02:03 PM (OQjmU)

173 @164...of course you are.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 14, 2013 02:03 PM (QZkRD)

174 J.J. Sefton,

You may not like the actor, but this is pretty much the conversation youÂ’ll be having in the morning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOAgGeW7abs

Posted by: Shirking It Hard at November 14, 2013 02:04 PM (5UY3I)

175

The California idiot goes all in :

 

California Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones said he's taken steps Thursday to allow more than 1 million residents with terminating insurance plans to keep them through next year.
Jones said he's asked Covered California to release insurers offering plans on the exchange from the requirement to cancel policies that don't comply with the health care overhaul.
"I've asked Covered California to take this action immediately so that health insurers are free then from this contract provision and can follow the president's request, and my request, that they allow their existing customers to renew their policies into 2014," Jones, a staunch supporter of the federal health law, said in a conference call from San Francisco.

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 14, 2013 02:04 PM (nTgAI)

176 Always been a fan of one six year term for Preezy. One campaign not two, two less years to fuck up in. Might actually give us filthy proles more of an opportunity to have an impact.

Posted by: tubal at November 14, 2013 02:05 PM (2NeaA)

177 So, did the NYT confirm whether Barky was lying before or now.  Or both times? 

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 14, 2013 02:05 PM (LA7Cm)

178 I can't believe you're pooping while holding court here, Sefton. You're so Gandhi like! "Gandhi rose early, usually at three-thirty, and before his first bowel movement (during which he received visitors, although possibly not Margaret Bourke-White) he spent two hours in meditation, listening to his “inner voice.”" The Gandhi Nobody Knows http://goo.gl/ccU3s I knew there was something "holy" about you, Sefton...

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 02:05 PM (kkbgQ)

179 160 "Bush was so much better than Obama or Clinton. In spite of his being pretty centrist. He made some messes, but I'd take him back in a heartbeat." Posted by: torquewrench at November 14, 2013 06:00 PM (gqT4g) ____________ Clinton was pretty good post '94. I'd take a Clinton/Newt combo over a Bush/Hastert combo any day.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 14, 2013 02:05 PM (0LHZx)

180 Going to listen to Levin tonight. See what he's got to scream about.

His legal expertise, hopefully, will be flowing.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Dancing With Myself at November 14, 2013 05:50 PM (IXrOn)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

I don't have to listen to Levin to know that what Dear Leader did today was illegal and unConstitutional.  But I will  listen to him to see what solutions we might have at this point.

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 02:05 PM (66ULQ)

181 Hot Air Cockblock !

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 14, 2013 02:06 PM (nTgAI)

182 166.  Oliver North's statement: "I thought [defying Congress' ban on arming the contras] was a neat idea"

Barack Obama's actions:  "I thought [defying Congress' unequivocal effective dates of the ACA] was a neat idea.

Posted by: Rasller at November 14, 2013 02:06 PM (Xv7f/)

183 I'd take a Clinton/Newt combo over a Bush/Hastert combo any day.

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Not I.

Posted by: mama wingr at November 14, 2013 02:06 PM (P6QsQ)

184
Sound bites make for excellent propaganda. They can easily be leveraged to "agitate the masses" and discredit (or shame) one's political opponents.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 06:00 PM (M8OWQ)

Holy fuck. You would think the people who read this blog were smart enough to know this only applies to Democrats criticizing Republicans.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 14, 2013 02:06 PM (tOkJB)

185 If the press wants to play the game, Clinton's incompetence resulted in 9/11. Well, I think the game is to sidetrack us (or our betters who get on TV) to defending Bush from their fictions rather than attacking the actual Douche-in-Chief. The only thing worse for Obama than his broken website is when the website starts working.

Posted by: t-bird at November 14, 2013 02:07 PM (FcR7P)

186 Clinton was pretty good post '94. I'd take a Clinton/Newt combo over a Bush/Hastert combo any day.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 14, 2013 06:05 PM (0LHZx)

 

I would rather we had not suffered 9/11. 

Posted by: polynikes at November 14, 2013 02:07 PM (m2CN7)

187 Who was that cute young woman that testified about the same time as Ollie North?  I forget her name.

Posted by: mama wingr at November 14, 2013 02:07 PM (P6QsQ)

188

Ah.... I g4et it now thanks to the MSM...

 

"It's Bush's fault because he was such a failure that we can help but compare our Obama - Saviour to him(?)"

 

Is that something?

Posted by: odd... at November 14, 2013 02:07 PM (kduZC)

189 AHA!!!! Found it: ABC interviews wrong black people following Katrina. http://newsbusters.org/node/1201

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 02:08 PM (DmNpO)

190 I have a question. If my plan is grandfathered until March do I get an additional year, nine months, or nothing? Better question is and has been who the frick is the SCOAMTT to tell me whether I can keep my doctor and health insurance? And how did this slip by sooo many people?

Posted by: Justamom at November 14, 2013 02:08 PM (Sptt8)

191 On the front page of the NYTimes ' a contrite Obama' fixes the healthcare problem

(1. It's not a heath care problem. 2. It's not a fix. 3. I don't think 'contrite' means blaming someone else for the problem. 4. It's not a problem if it helps achieve the unstated goal of the destruction of the health insurance industry)

anyway to the quote

"The presidentÂ’s plan would apply only to people who have had their existing policies canceled. Those currently without insurance would not be able to buy the old plans. "

Question: If your insurance has been canceled, that means you don't have insurance, right? So if you are 'currently without insurance' that means you can't get your old policy back, right? However, Obama's 'fix' only applies to those who have been canceled. So if you haven't yet been canceled the fix doesn't apply to you.

Somehow, apparently there was a mistake in translation.


Posted by: But Wait! There's More! at November 14, 2013 02:08 PM (mKOlt)

192 Who was that cute young woman that testified about the same time as Ollie North? I forget her name. Fawn Hall

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 14, 2013 02:08 PM (yz6yg)

193 Nobama laid a Cleveland Steamer today...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 14, 2013 02:08 PM (vHRtU)

194
Fawn Hall. Ollie's secretary. Who later became a crack addict, if memory serves.



Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 14, 2013 02:08 PM (TIIx5)

195 This is worth the click to the assholes at BuzzFeed: http://www.buzzfeed.com/adamellis/heres-what-happens-when-you-ask-people-to-draw-maps-of-the-u?bffb

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 14, 2013 02:08 PM (zDsvJ)

196 Fawn Hall.  That's it.

Posted by: mama wingr at November 14, 2013 02:08 PM (P6QsQ)

197 My two biggest issues with W are No Child Left Behind and the execrable John Roberts.

Posted by: tubal at November 14, 2013 02:09 PM (2NeaA)

198 Who was that cute young woman that testified about the same time as Ollie North? I forget her name.

Posted by: mama wingr at November 14, 2013 06:07 PM (P6QsQ)

 

Fawn Hall

Posted by: polynikes at November 14, 2013 02:09 PM (m2CN7)

199

um, just to set the record straight, there has been some confusion regarding my previous employment record, I regret the misspelling.

 

I was a Constpational Lawyer.

 

Hope this clears things up

Posted by: b-b-barky the clown at November 14, 2013 02:09 PM (9oQs0)

200
#188:

Fawn Hall.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 14, 2013 02:09 PM (tOkJB)

201 California Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones said he's taken steps Thursday to allow more than 1 million residents with terminating insurance plans to keep them through next year.Jones said he's asked Covered California to release insurers offering plans on the exchange from the requirement to cancel policies that don't comply with the health care overhaul. "I've asked Covered California to take this action immediately so that health insurers are free then from this contract provision and can follow the president's request, and my request, that they allow their existing customers to renew their policies into 2014," Jones, a staunch supporter of the federal health law, said in a conference call from San Francisco.

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 14, 2013 06:04 PM (nTgAI)

 

 

---------------------------------------------------

 

 

Someone in CA needs to sue him for   aiding and abetting the breaking of federal law.

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 02:09 PM (66ULQ)

202 Fawn Hall moved out to LA, got caught up in the fast life, got hooked on drugs, married some rocker, etc. She know lives a quite life and works at Book Soup in West Hollywood on Sunset.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 02:09 PM (kkbgQ)

203

Fuck the NYT.  Let them substantiate with one - one - item the idiotic slander about the "botched" response to Katrina. 

 

The state of LA and the city of NO "botched" their response - as would be expected from historically among the most corrupt and inept govt. entities in the US.  The feds?  Please, oh airheaded racist fascist dipshits of the NYT, name for me the things the feds should have done differently in Katrina, if we could use a time machine.

 

Name one fucking thing.  And intervening earlier to get the pathetic LA govt. out of the way doesn't count. 

 

I still recall watching the spectacle of Katrina unfold on TV from overseas, in one of our war zones.  All of us had trouble believing it.  Not the actual situation in NO, which was just a flood and a predictably disastrous response by local and state incompetents.  But the national hysteria, the absurd criticism of Bush, the unbelievable slanders of racism being flung around.  Even the locals were asking us - in that careful, tentative way that America-loving smart people in fucked up countries have always done in my experience - what was going on.  Their English was good enough for them to be puzzled by the hysteria.

 

Posted by: non-purist at November 14, 2013 02:10 PM (afQnV)

204 Link in my nick, btw.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 14, 2013 02:10 PM (zDsvJ)

205 We dyin' down heah!

Posted by: James Carville at November 14, 2013 02:10 PM (oFCZn)

206 now lives...

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 02:10 PM (kkbgQ)

207 198 My two biggest issues with W are No Child Left Behind and the execrable John Roberts. Posted by: tubal at November 14, 2013 06:09 PM (2NeaA) _________ That...and the trillions of dollars he spent that he didn't have to.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 14, 2013 02:10 PM (0LHZx)

208 Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Made me laugh too.  Ace got a taste of a ban hammer?

Posted by: dogfish at November 14, 2013 02:10 PM (nsOJa)

209 8 years and Katrina is still the MSM's pet hurricane

Even though Sandy hit the MSM's Center of the Universe, not so much is said about it lately.

It's not because TFG and his Chubby Date are doing such a great job on the recovery

Posted by: kbdabear at November 14, 2013 02:11 PM (aTXUx)

210 I just approved an arrest warrant for a protestant pastor who, according to him, was only teaching a kid how to masturbate.  The kid must have been slow because it took a couple of sessions.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 14, 2013 02:11 PM (Hx5uv)

211 When I sold group health insurance, if I needed to change any item on a plan for a large enough group to make it worthwhile, it was a $500 filing fee (in the nineties) and 90 days to register with the state.

Posted by: Justamom at November 14, 2013 02:11 PM (Sptt8)

212 From his remarks in his Obamacare Campaign speech earlier.... I want people to be able to take their kid to the doctor... Insurance $450 month Deductible $16,000 20% co-pay....unlimited You can take them to the doctor all you want with these Obamacare policies and when you take them $16K worth you only have to pay 20% You could BUY your kid a doctor

Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 14, 2013 02:11 PM (S5LPT)

213 I bet most males over 40 know who Fawn Hall is.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 14, 2013 02:11 PM (IV4od)

214 Hot Air is blocking you? or the NYT?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 14, 2013 02:12 PM (LSDdO)

215 Clinton sucked. He banned light bulbs, he expanded Medicare, he created no child left behind, he took 20 million people off the tax rolls completely. What a fucking commie!! Oh wait...

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 14, 2013 02:12 PM (0LHZx)

216 I just approved an arrest warrant for a protestant pastor who, according to him, was only teaching a kid how to masturbate. The kid must have been slow because it took a couple of sessions. *** good Lord. There's gotta be a special place in Hell for those who would use the word of God to abuse a child.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 02:13 PM (DmNpO)

217 211 Wow, I taught myself on the first try

Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 14, 2013 02:13 PM (S5LPT)

218 ABC interviews wrong black people following Katrina. http://newsbusters.org/node/1201 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 06:08 PM (DmNpO) OMG! I don't think I've ever seen that. (Or don't remember seeing it.) Too funny!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 14, 2013 02:13 PM (bCEmE)

219 I see the NYT still managed to blame Republicans for Obama's problem.

You know his lack of leadership, willingness to compromise and fair play. Among other problem's.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 14, 2013 02:13 PM (LSDdO)

220 >>>NYT Compares Obama to... Bush?

oooo. To Bush!? That's gotta burn.

Seconds before moonbats start comparing this to the kiss of Judas upon their God King, 20 pieces of silver being payoffs to the NYT from BIG KochPharmaOilTobaccoInsurance InCORPORATEd of Texas

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 14, 2013 02:13 PM (0q2P7)

221 Fuck the NYT. Let them substantiate with one - one - item the idiotic slander about the "botched" response to Katrina.
-

I read there were 25,000 dead. Bodies piled high in the Superdome. Rapes everywhere. All Bush's fault.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 14, 2013 02:13 PM (Hx5uv)

222 My two biggest issues with W are No Child Left Behind and the execrable John Roberts. Posted by: tubal


You are a restrained individual.  I'll add not vetoing any of the many bloated bills that crossed his desk.  Oh, and I'm not a fan of Patriot Act; it is being abused just as any thinking person should have realized.  Never just a government.  Ever.

Posted by: dogfish at November 14, 2013 02:14 PM (nsOJa)

223

Texas Dept of Insur not sure which way they will flip or flop  on today's    imperial  proclamation.  TBD.

 

Meanwhile, 3,000 Texans are "enrolled" thru the Federal  exchange  into ObamaCare.  We have 25 million residents in the state.  There are nearly 3,000 homes  just in my subdivision.  Marvelous [spit].

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 14, 2013 02:14 PM (BAS5M)

224 I think Rob Lowe used to bang Fawn Hall, maybe thats when his liberal/conservative conversion started.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 14, 2013 02:14 PM (IV4od)

225 Yes, because picking up the ball on a natural disaster completely fumbled by the dysfunctional state and local government is exactly the same as a three-year process of ongoing, hands-on fuckery, cronyism, and incompetence.

Posted by: --- at November 14, 2013 02:14 PM (MMC8r)

226 I was never a birther, but this clown show is so out of hand now, that if a "real Kenyan birth certificate" suddenly surfaced, it would feel like, "sure, that too."  I mean, can it GET weird enough at this point?

Posted by: Rusty Nail at November 14, 2013 02:15 PM (MMDO6)

227 OMG! I don't think I've ever seen that. (Or don't remember seeing it.) Too funny! *** There were a few of us here who watched it live and I, for one, was nearly dehydrated from crying tears of laughter.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 02:15 PM (DmNpO)

228 I always loved the cannibalism stories. I got into an argument with someone when I pointed out that normal people do not resort to cannibalism after only two days without food.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 02:15 PM (kkbgQ)

229 re 125: " he is surrounded by people who are too incompetent or too weak to help him"

that's why (per Beschloss) the most intelligent president we've ever had is the worst president in history? Maybe he should have picked Cheney instead of Biden.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 14, 2013 02:16 PM (bJm7W)

230 I sense an #AcesSocialCommitment hashtag about to happen.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at November 14, 2013 02:17 PM (C2//T)

231 I read there were 25,000 dead. Bodies piled high in the Superdome. Rapes everywhere. All Bush's fault.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 14, 2013 06:13 PM (Hx5uv)

 

 

----------------------------------------------------

 

 

Don't forget that he made Sheppy cry.

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 02:17 PM (66ULQ)

232 George Bush taught me a valuable lesson - never make excuses for a "moderate"Republican, carry their water. I will back the most small government Conservative I can find until the day I die. Just tired of getting fucked over.

Posted by: tubal at November 14, 2013 02:18 PM (2NeaA)

233 204 Fuck the NYT. Let them substantiate with one - one - item the idiotic slander about the "botched" response to Katrina. The state of LA and the city of NO "botched" their response - **** In the preceding hours Kathleen Blanco knew it would be a cash machine and spent the time with Clinton cronies working out how to divvy up the spoils instead of preparing.

Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 14, 2013 02:18 PM (S5LPT)

234 The list of Kulaks is growing rapidly

Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at November 14, 2013 02:18 PM (Pr6hk)

235 " he is surrounded by people who are too incompetent or too weak to help him"

that's why (per Beschloss) the most intelligent president we've ever had is the worst president in history? Maybe he should have picked Cheney instead of Biden.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 14, 2013 06:16 PM (bJm7W)

--------------------



Iron sharpens iron, as the saying goes. 


I have no idea what is getting sharpened in Obama's WH.

Posted by: mama wingr at November 14, 2013 02:18 PM (P6QsQ)

236 222 WalrusRex at November 14, 2013 06:13 PM (Hx5uv)

Prezidaint Bush why won't the TSA touch mah Junk!?!?!


//Shempf

Posted by: sven10077 at November 14, 2013 02:18 PM (9jfyN)

237 Ok, whomever stole mama winger's 'e'. Give it back...now.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 14, 2013 02:19 PM (bCEmE)

238 the same way that the Bush administrationÂ’s botched response to Hurricane Katrina undermined any semblance of Republican efficiency. Fahhk Yew.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at November 14, 2013 02:20 PM (SQVoM)

239 >>"I've asked Covered California to take this action immediately so that health insurers are free then from this contract provision and can follow the president's request, and my request, that they allow their existing customers to renew their policies into 2014,"

Under what authority can he compel insurance companies to do this? He says "allow", but you know he'll be on their case if they don't take him up on this opportunity.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2013 02:20 PM (JRmiD)

240 So I gather SCOAMF said 'pay no attention to those regs behind the curtain' and expects the insurance companies to obey. Is that it in a nutshell? I couldn't do more than a very quick scan of a few news sites that aren't blocked because I was at work, you know, helping to pay for all the sh*t the FSA votes for.

Posted by: Retread at November 14, 2013 02:20 PM (IiAs3)

241 232 Soona at November 14, 2013 06:17 PM (66ULQ)

I cried unashamed manly tears...they were eating babies for gawd's sakes....Prezzidaint Bush send HALP!?!?!

//Shempf

Posted by: sven10077 at November 14, 2013 02:20 PM (9jfyN)

242 I have been trapped by a two year old in our computer room watching a YouTube video of building blocks self assembling into a truck. Over and over.

Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 02:20 PM (E0+QH)

243 The real thing that screwed Bush was the bloody Iraqi insurgency in 2006. The failure to change strategies in Iraq ultimately gave us ObamaCare. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 14, 2013 05:42 PM (uhAkr) And the Iraqi insurgency was directly caused by the Bush/ Bremer plan to Disband the Iraqi army and to prohibit members of the Bathe party from being part of the new government. I started screaming at my radio when I heard that Bremer proposed this idea. Shortly thereafter the bombs started going off, just as I suspected they would. That de-bathification plan was the stupidest thing they could have possibly done.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 02:20 PM (bb5+k)

244 184 I'd take a Clinton/Newt combo over a Bush/Hastert combo any day. Fuck no.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at November 14, 2013 02:20 PM (SQVoM)

245 You are NOT going to believe this quote from the Slime story. But unlike Mr. Bush, who faced confrontational but occasionally cooperative Democrats, Mr. Obama has a Republican opposition that has refused to open the door to any legislative fixes to his health care law and has blocked him at virtually every other turn. Yeah, I remember when the democrats were cooperative with Bush? WTF? So, it's back to being the Republican's fault. These people have no shame.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 02:21 PM (0FSuD)

246 >>>Yes, because picking up the ball on a natural disaster completely fumbled by the dysfunctional state and local government is exactly the same as a three-year process of ongoing, hands-on fuckery, cronyism, and incompetence.

Shhh.
They just compared him to W
it's the worst insult they know.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 14, 2013 02:21 PM (0q2P7)

247 "Barack Obama won the presidency by exploiting a|n incredibly favorable Media environment.|" Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 14, 2013 05:46 PM (M8OWQ) This is exactly how I see it.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 02:21 PM (bb5+k)

248 I long for the days of laughing about a cum stained dress.

Posted by: beerologist at November 14, 2013 02:22 PM (CdhVC)

249

Someone in CA needs to sue him for aiding and abetting the breaking of federal law.

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 06:09 PM (66ULQ)

 

Here is more:

 

Jones also said he has no authority in state or federal law to require Covered California or health insurers in the state to follow the new policy that President Barack Obama announced this morning, which would encourage insurers to allow individual policyholders to continue in existing plans through 2014.

Earlier, the Affordable Care Act required insurers to cancel those plans if they weren't compliant with its regulations, unless they were in effect in March 2010 — when the ACA was enacted — and hadn't been altered since.

It's unclear at this point if Covered California will, or can, follow Jones' recommendation or if insurers like Anthem Blue Cross, Blue Shield of California, Kaiser Permanente and Health Net will follow the insurance commissioner's suggestion that they notify individual plan policyholders of the opportunity to extend current plans beyond Dec. 31 and through 2014

.

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 14, 2013 02:22 PM (nTgAI)

250 and the execrable John Roberts

Execrable, or mad skilz super-genius who had a Tardis and could tell this meltdown was in the offing if he did what he did?

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 14, 2013 02:22 PM (Xlbr8)

251 I saw social commitments open for..

Posted by: soothie at November 14, 2013 02:22 PM (9ZtoK)

252 I read there were 25,000 dead. Bodies piled high in the Superdome. Rapes everywhere. All Bush's fault. *** THERE ARE ALLIGATORS AND SNAKES SWIMMING THROUGH THE STREETS!!!!11!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 02:22 PM (DmNpO)

253 247 MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 14, 2013 06:21 PM (0q2P7)

Which, setting aside my Shempf act a sec since I am out of glitter dust, is the way to look at it...

sure if you were near the asshole J Schooler you should break a mug over their head but yeah they are pissed at SCOAMFY-D

Posted by: sven10077 at November 14, 2013 02:23 PM (9jfyN)

254 An intellectual is a man who takes more words than is necessary to tell more than he knows

Posted by: Dwight D Eisenhower at November 14, 2013 02:23 PM (Pr6hk)

255

Ok so what's this shit about Ace's social commitment with Fawn Hall and then being cockblocked by Hot Air ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 14, 2013 02:23 PM (nTgAI)

256 Rob Ford, keeping it real.

Rob Ford left reporters gobsmacked Thursday morning when he denied a new claim that emerged in police documents that he’d berated a female staffer by saying “I’m going to eat you out” and “I banged your pussy.”

“I’m happily married,” Toronto’s mayor said Thursday. “I have more than enough to eat at home.”


Posted by: WalrusRex at November 14, 2013 02:23 PM (Hx5uv)

257 Are the Brosurance ads legal?  They are a complete rip-off of the "got milk?" ads which are licensed to "milk processors and dairy farmers" according to wikipedia. The ads even use all lowercase letters.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 14, 2013 02:23 PM (KL49F)

258 253 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 06:22 PM (DmNpO)

Prezident Bush the gators are raping the snakes and beheading the groundhawgs...send HALP HALP!?!?!


//Shempf

Posted by: sven10077 at November 14, 2013 02:24 PM (9jfyN)

259 Under what authority can he compel insurance companies to do this? He says "allow", but you know he'll be on their case if they don't take him up on this opportunity. Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2013 06:20 PM (JRmiD) None. But, yes it shifts the blame to the insurance companies if they don't drive their costs up further and/or break the law.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 02:24 PM (kkbgQ)

260 How could it get any weirder?Wellllll...

A. POTUS could come out of the closet
B. Putin could defect to Canada
C. The sun could go supernova

Thats about all I can think of...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 14, 2013 02:25 PM (vHRtU)

261 >>>Execrable, or mad skilz super-genius

Everything can be a tax is now part of the official SCOTUS record.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 14, 2013 02:25 PM (0q2P7)

262 The biggest mess Bush made is still with us. In the Oval Office. Bush 43's incompetence paved the way for Obama. Just as his father Bush 41's incompetence paved the way for Clinton. The Bush family: the gift that keeps on giving. Can't wait for "Jeb!" to jump in. Posted by: torquewrench at November 14, 2013 06:00 PM (gqT4g) You have expressed my opinion as well.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 02:25 PM (bb5+k)

263

We were once as broken as ObamaCare

Posted by: Joe Theismann's Tibia and Fibula at November 14, 2013 02:25 PM (Pr6hk)

264 Oh and by the way, the story reeks of panic and desperation. The walls are crumbling and the NY Slime toads know it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 02:26 PM (0FSuD)

265 We've always been at war with Eastasia

Posted by: Ed in Bloomington at November 14, 2013 02:26 PM (W2qJe)

266 Mr Obama seems a bit 'out of touch'

Posted by: King George III at November 14, 2013 02:27 PM (Pr6hk)

267 Execrable, or mad skilz super-genius who had a Tardis and could tell this meltdown was in the offing if he did what he did? Roberts had a moral obligation to stop ObamaCare and chose instead to chicken out so DC wouldn't turn on him. All those people losing their policies? He could have stopped that. If he knew it was going to be this bad (which I don't think he did), he'd be the biggest amoral prick on earth for letting it sail through. Either way, we'd be better off without Obamacare instead of in this situation.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 14, 2013 02:27 PM (uhAkr)

268 "Barack Obama won the presidency by exploiting a|n incredibly favorable Media environment." Well, he didn't build that lead by himself.

Posted by: John McCain at November 14, 2013 02:27 PM (FcR7P)

269 But unlike Mr. Bush, who faced confrontational but occasionally cooperative Democrats, The people who were fostering conspiracy theories that he masterminded 9-11. The same Left that then lectured us over 'civility.'

Posted by: --- at November 14, 2013 02:27 PM (MMC8r)

270 My works were cautionary tales, not owners manuals.

Posted by: George Orwell at November 14, 2013 02:27 PM (Pr6hk)

271 >>>None. But, yes it shifts the blame to the insurance companies if they don't drive their costs up further and/or break the law.

Insurance Companies "We did not feel the Presidents assurances were credible. So we followed the law, not empty promises"

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 14, 2013 02:28 PM (0q2P7)

272 Ace - you shouldn't be sending so many cupid smooches on AdultFriendFinder.com.. "social commitments" indeed!  Just be sure to bring condoms..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 14, 2013 02:28 PM (b/lt+)

273 Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 06:20 PM (E0+QH) God brings us special treats in time of need. Prayers for BIL and family, Traye.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 14, 2013 02:29 PM (/djtm)

274 But unlike Mr. Bush, who faced confrontational but occasionally cooperative Democrats, Mr. Obama has a Republican opposition that has refused to open the door to any legislative fixes to his health care law and has blocked him at virtually every other turn. Yeah, I remember when the democrats were cooperative with Bush? WTF? So, it's back to being the Republican's fault. These people have no shame. Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 06:21 PM (0FSuD) _____________ Well to be fair to the NYT, John McCain, Arlen Specter and Lindsey Graham, all solid Democrats, did sometimes co-operate with Bush.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 14, 2013 02:30 PM (0LHZx)

275 Either the media knew Obamacare was a ckufing disaster that they thought they could hide or they actually ckufing believed Choom. Either option should result in their destruction.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 14, 2013 02:31 PM (oFCZn)

276 unhappy social commitments, heh

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 14, 2013 02:31 PM (MhA4j)

277 Me? I  just wanted a good spot from which  to view the end.

Posted by: Rockhound at November 14, 2013 02:32 PM (BAS5M)

278 I wonder where J.J. Sefton went?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 02:32 PM (oJ5Fd)

279 Nerdygirl - I know you lost your insurance because of Obamacide. What do you think will happen for you now, with this latest pronouncement from His Highness? Posted by: mama wingr at November 14, 2013 05:47 PM (P6QsQ) I'm already screwed as far as my current insurance goes. As of Jan. 1st, it's history. I am stuck with the exchange but I've contacted BCBS and I should be able to get one of their silver plans from them without dealing with that site. It won't be as good as what I had. It will have higher deductible, co-pays, and yearly cap. The rates are about the same, but my guess is that in the future rates will skyrocket because younger, healthy people are smart enough to not buy into this bullshit and won't sign on. If they had insurance at all, they had insurance which was appropriate for their level of health, which according to TFG is substandard insurance. They took away our freedom of choice and tried to force us to buy more insurance than many people want or need. I was better off in the group pool that my employer had, it worked because it was large and had people of all ages. But that's over for me.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 14, 2013 02:32 PM (QvC2u)

280 None. But, yes it shifts the blame to the insurance companies if they don't drive their costs up further and/or break the law.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 06:24 PM (kkbgQ)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

The regime can play this game all day long, but the fact remains that at some time in the near future, people are going to have to give up the plans  (and doctors)  that they like  for the higher premiums and unreachable deductables.   Someone should remind them every day. 

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 02:32 PM (66ULQ)

281 Dack. Math is hard... For journalists.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 14, 2013 02:32 PM (/djtm)

282 George Orwell betrayed: Islamist Tariq Ramadan gives a lecture in his name http://goo.gl/rjpstN

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 02:33 PM (kkbgQ)

283 Either way, we'd be better off without Obamacare instead of in this situation.

Obamacare being struck down would have galvanized the Democrats though.  Now they're being destroyed by their own Frankenstein monster.

With the stroke of a pen three years ago, Obama unwittingly became the right's secret weapon.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 14, 2013 02:33 PM (Xlbr8)

284 Yay!!  Anna Puma has been returned from the depths!  I've missed you.

Posted by: jem at November 14, 2013 02:33 PM (fM4kr)

285 >>>How could it get any weirder?

Ayatollah Khamenei  could convert to Catholicism.
Great Britain could apply for Statehood.
Chris Cristie could endorse Rand Paul.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 14, 2013 02:33 PM (0q2P7)

286 280 Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 14, 2013 06:32 PM (OWjjx)

One of the nice things about finally letting your hands off the steering wheel is you can enjoy the ride...

add in my genuine appreciation of physics and kinetic impact and I'm set....

peanuts and popcorn anyone?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 14, 2013 02:34 PM (9jfyN)

287 I have a NY Slime sub, do the morons want me to paste the entire story into the thread?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 02:34 PM (0FSuD)

288 Prezident Bush the gators are raping the snakes and beheading the groundhawgs...send HALP HALP!?!?! *** I think you might have just written the script for ScyFy's newest blockbuster.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 02:34 PM (DmNpO)

289 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2013 05:36 PM (0fdrC) Good to see you back Anna Puma.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 14, 2013 02:34 PM (Pexsc)

290 They're comparing Obama to Bush so when the whole thing goes belly up-insurance, the economy, etc, they can say that Obama wasn't really a "Democrat. Democrat."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 14, 2013 02:34 PM (23Kgq)

291 Ayatollah Khamenei could convert to Catholicism. Great Britain could apply for Statehood. Chris Cristie could endorse Rand Paul. Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 14, 2013 06:33 PM (0q2P7) Ace could post in the morning. Ace could have a social commitment. Oh, wait... IT JUST GOT WEIRDER!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 14, 2013 02:34 PM (oFCZn)

292 Perhaps the rise in the sheer number of these diagnoses is because the methods of testing and discovering have gotten better?  Not because of the vaccines?  Wonder if that ever penetrated this person's mind?

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/why-regret-vaccinating-kids-160600765.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2013 02:34 PM (0fdrC)

293 Chris Cristie could endorse Rand Paul. *** Am I the only one who thinks he'll be a bitter bastard and work against anyone who beats him for the nom?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 02:35 PM (DmNpO)

294 227 I was never a birther, but this clown show is so out of hand now, that if a "real Kenyan birth certificate" suddenly surfaced, it would feel like, "sure, that too." I mean, can it GET weird enough at this point? Posted by: Rusty Nail at November 14, 2013 06:15 PM (MMDO6) I am a "Birther" but no one who has seriously researched this topic buys the "birth in Kenya" theory. Unfortunately the reasonable people got labeled with the Pejorative being applied to the foolish people. The issue was more than just a question of where he was born, it was also regarding what was the meaning of Article II in 1787, and there is a lot of evidence out there demonstrating that it wasn't based on Jus Soli.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 02:36 PM (bb5+k)

295 290 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 06:34 PM (DmNpO)

We all have gifts...sadly mine is Z film writing I guess....

In case I am scarce NDH I pray your insurance situation along with all Morons in harm's way works out.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 14, 2013 02:36 PM (9jfyN)

296 Thanks Jem and Polliwogette.

Back to writing.  Yay.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2013 02:36 PM (0fdrC)

297 286 Yay!! Anna Puma has been returned from the depths! I've missed you. Posted by: jem at November 14, 2013 06:33 PM (fM4kr) Yeah, not to be nosy, but what WAS that all about. Ace is on a date, tell it sister!

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 02:36 PM (0FSuD)

298 One other thing about Dear Leader's  edict today.  Was it put into writing, like an EO?  If not, then as corrupt as the  DOJ is, the  insurance companies that postpone  cancelations  might be opening themselves up to prosecution for breaking federal law.

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 02:36 PM (66ULQ)

299 NDH - 'Bitter' is not the 'Bastard' I was thinking of...

Posted by: Austin Powers at November 14, 2013 02:37 PM (Pr6hk)

300 they can say that Obama wasn't really a "Democrat. Democrat."

Obama did that to himself already launching his own OFA brand and having it cannibalize all the heavy donations that otherwise have gone to the DNC.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 14, 2013 02:37 PM (Xlbr8)

301 296 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 06:35 PM (DmNpO)

Nope Chripsy Chreme will capign for Hillary! unashamedly unless he is the GOP nominee.

It is why I will vote for her over him should it come to that.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 14, 2013 02:37 PM (9jfyN)

302 When we created the fiction of the President as an incompetent, unqualified, lazy, and disinterested fool back in 2000... ...it wasn't supposed to be used as a fucking manual!

Posted by: The New York Times at November 14, 2013 02:37 PM (FcR7P)

303 In case I am scarce NDH I pray your insurance situation along with all Morons in harm's way works out. *** The system told me I could 'Report a life change' after Nov 15th. I'll be in there tomorrow trying to do just that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 02:37 PM (DmNpO)

304

"...but has also raised questions about his competence in the same way that the Bush administrationÂ’s botched response to Hurricane Katrina undermined any semblance of Republican efficiency."

 

Only among you lying pieces of shit that succeeded in making it botched.  Fuck you people.  I am so wishing you get a taste of your own fucking medicine, you lying pieces of shit.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at November 14, 2013 02:37 PM (U+goV)

305 Disband the Iraqi army and to prohibit members of the Bathe party

The Iraqi army disbanded itself.  And the Bathe should all have been imprisoned til decrepitude.

Posted by: DaveA at November 14, 2013 02:38 PM (DL2i+)

306 Nope Chripsy Chreme will capign for Hillary! unashamedly unless he is the GOP nominee. It is why I will vote for her over him should it come to that. ** I wouldn't go so far as to say he will openly aggravate against our candidate, but he will undermine at every opportunity.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 02:38 PM (DmNpO)

307 Obamacare being struck down would have galvanized the Democrats though. Now they're being destroyed by their own Frankenstein monster. Americans are suffering for it, and maybe the GOP might be able to pick up a few seats and could possibly repeal ObamaCare in 2016, unless normal American politics happens in which case ObamaCare is here to stay in some form. And the GOP? Not exactly trustworthy to pursue repeal. Couple that with a for-life utterly immune court tossing it out. That's way better.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 14, 2013 02:39 PM (uhAkr)

308

"They're blocking me"

Slacker.

May as well whine: "But I don't write code."

Posted by: socalcon at November 14, 2013 02:39 PM (vHlQ5)

309 @NAIC_News NAIC Statement on President Obama's Announcement Regarding One Year Extension For Existing Plans: http://bit.ly/17VVTwi NAIC is the Natl Assoc of Insurance Commissioners

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 14, 2013 02:39 PM (zDsvJ)

310 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2013 06:34 PM (0fdrC)

Perhaps the horde should join in the merriment in the comments over there?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 02:39 PM (oJ5Fd)

311 NOLA - rebuilt/repaired.

Sandy relief funds still un-distributed -- ~90%.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 14, 2013 02:39 PM (Xlbr8)

312 Execrable, or mad skilz super-genius who had a Tardis and could tell this meltdown was in the offing if he did what he did? Posted by: Purp at November 14, 2013 06:22 PM (Xlbr You mean the guy who rolled the dice on millions of people's lives and nearly killed us? Nah, i'm not going with genius on this one.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 02:40 PM (bb5+k)

313

The kid must have been slow because it took a couple of sessions.

 

*****

 

 

Most of us were autodidacts in that regard.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 14, 2013 02:40 PM (N/Sup)

314

"I actually have social commitments this week (which I'm not at all happy about). "

Please take protection along... no, not a firearm.

Posted by: socalcon at November 14, 2013 02:40 PM (vHlQ5)

315 My biggest complaint about Bush was letting himself be played for a sucker by Wall St. when they claimed Main Street America would be devastated by the MBS crash. This was an outright lie and no bailouts were needed at all. The scammers just had to take their lumps and live with it. For most of them it meant they might get demoted from being 1%ers for a while and merely be in the top 5% of wealthiest citizens.

What started under Bush opened up the opportunity for Obama to take it up to eleventy and go into spending overdrive.

Posted by: epobirs at November 14, 2013 02:40 PM (pojZG)

316 Ace is at happy hour nursing a lite beer, dining on free chex mix and wasting his time chatting up girls who will tell him obama is dreamy.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 02:40 PM (kkbgQ)

317

"I actually have social commitments this week (which I'm not at all happy about). "

 

Pics and videos?

Posted by: socalcon at November 14, 2013 02:40 PM (vHlQ5)

318 Somehow I don't think we'll see signs of TFG with the caption 'Miss Me Yet?'

Posted by: RWC at November 14, 2013 02:41 PM (LpbKr)

319 And it sets it up for Hillary. Hillary, the good Democrat will "save" us from the not real Democrat Obama. Praise her. Praise her now./sarc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 14, 2013 02:41 PM (23Kgq)

320 @NAIC_News
NAIC Statement on President Obama's Announcement Regarding One Year Extension For Existing Plans: http://bit.ly/17VVTwi

NAIC is the Natl Assoc of Insurance Commissioners Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 14, 2013 06:39 PM (zDsvJ)


That's gorgeously phrased fuck you we're not doing it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 14, 2013 02:42 PM (Gk3SS)

321 Americans are suffering for it

Nothing hurts like real pain.  These lessons are the ones that will last.

This is accomplishing what no amount of logic, reason, financial argument, etc could.

Yea, it sucks.  Hard lessons are...hard.


Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 14, 2013 02:42 PM (Xlbr8)

322 couthinkld have stopped that. If he knew it was going to be this bad (which I don't think he did), he'd be the biggest amoral prick on earth for letting it sail through. Either way, we'd be better off without Obamacare instead of in this situation. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk I think once jef was elected, the only way that the media/Hollywood/the hip were ever going to turn on him is with a giant unconcealable burning situation. Roberts, although an apparently amoral prick, did America a favor. Fast and furious, swept under the rug Bengazi, same Irs tea party targeting, same Lybia/ Egypt/ Syria, same Record deficits, same Why? Because none of these REALLY affected the average American RIGHT NOW. Jacking their insurance to a point where nobody has the money in their budget to cover the added cost, everybody understands that.

Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 02:42 PM (E0+QH)

323 321 "I actually have social commitments this week (which I'm not at all happy about). " Pics and videos? Posted by: socalcon at November 14, 2013 06:40 PM (vHlQ5) You think spankings will be involved?

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 02:42 PM (kkbgQ)

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 14, 2013 02:43 PM (vHRtU)

325 Sandy relief funds still un-distributed -- ~90%.

Posted by: Purp at November 14, 2013 06:39 PM (Xlbr

As much as I would like to abuse the Bobbsey Twins Obama and Christie, what did NOLA look like one year after?

Not too good.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 02:43 PM (oJ5Fd)

326 @CapitolCityProj Breaking: Second OÂ’Keefe video exposes more Obamacare NavigatorÂ’s telling people to commit fraud http://tinyurl.com/lh2u35m

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 14, 2013 02:43 PM (bCEmE)

327 @313 So the insurance commissioners are not biting on the Obama bait and switch. Good for them.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 02:43 PM (0FSuD)

328 Guess there will be pancakes in the morning for everyone. Posted by: NCKate at November 14, 2013 05:42 PM (w7CQT) You guys want some grapes?... Bitches.

Posted by: Prince at November 14, 2013 02:43 PM (Y92Nd)

329 Odds the social engagement extends to breakfast tomorrow morning?

Posted by: socalcon at November 14, 2013 02:43 PM (vHlQ5)

330 Jonah Goldberg on Fox..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 02:43 PM (aDwsi)

331 The system told me I could 'Report a life change' after Nov 15th. I'll be in there tomorrow trying to do just that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 06:37 PM (DmNpO)

 

 

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I've heard that the hot flashes  aren't permanent.

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 02:44 PM (66ULQ)

332 Hi. Miss you all.

Posted by: baldilocks at November 14, 2013 02:44 PM (6QzJz)

333 Obamacare being struck down would have galvanized the Democrats though. Now they're being destroyed by their own Frankenstein monster. With the stroke of a pen three years ago, Obama unwittingly became the right's secret weapon. Posted by: Purp at November 14, 2013 06:33 PM (Xlbr You mean Hubris brings Nemesis? Yeah, that was our plan all along.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 02:44 PM (bb5+k)

334 Dammit:

http://reason.com/blog/2013/11/12/california-lawmakers-want-porn-stars-to

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 14, 2013 02:44 PM (vHRtU)

335 Nothing hurts like real pain. These lessons are the ones that will last. This is accomplishing what no amount of logic, reason, financial argument, etc could. Yea, it sucks. Hard lessons are...hard. Lessons in pain breed people who want strongmen, not republicans. And this was unnecessary. Because of John Roberts. The 'lesson' of 9/11 gave us DHS and the much-abised Patriot Act.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 14, 2013 02:45 PM (uhAkr)

336 The left keeps lying and telling everyone people aren't suffering. But I don't see how people can miss the dent in their budget under obammycare. And no one believes this it's better bullshit. And those who have insurance to their employers better be prepared for their turn to be ass raped. It's a comin'!

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 14, 2013 02:45 PM (kkbgQ)

337 Jacking their insurance to a point where nobody has the money in their budget to cover the added cost, everybody understands that. Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 06:42 PM (E0+QH) Most importantly, they can't hide the cost like other kick the can down the road ponzi schemes.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 14, 2013 02:45 PM (Y92Nd)

338 I've heard that the hot flashes aren't permanent. Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 06:44 PM (66ULQ) Yeah, about the 20th year is what my wife is on now.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 02:45 PM (0FSuD)

339 Good to see you back Anna Puma. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 14, 2013 06:34 PM (Pexsc) I agree. Always interesting and informative commentary from that one.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 02:45 PM (bb5+k)

340
Ack...!
Cat just hopped up and shared tuna breath.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 02:45 PM (aDwsi)

341 344 Ack...! Cat just hopped up and shared tuna breath. Don't tell Mayor Ford, he might want to eat it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 02:47 PM (0FSuD)

342 Ack...!
Cat just hopped up and shared tuna breath.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 06:45 PM (aDwsi)


Unpossible.   Cat's breath smells like cat food.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 14, 2013 02:47 PM (Gk3SS)

343 Fun times at the immigration protest in New Orleans: http://tinyurl.com/n5fjg8e

Posted by: biscuits mahoney at November 14, 2013 02:47 PM (avEon)

344 I've seen some steampunk chicks in goggles that didn't look to bad.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 14, 2013 02:49 PM (Hx5uv)

345 Ack...!
Cat just hopped up and shared tuna breath.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 06:45 PM (aDwsi)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

Beware.  It may be a trap.  Or a ploy to get you away from the  keyboard.  Cats like to type shit.

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 02:49 PM (66ULQ)

346 Yeah, about the 20th year is what my wife is on now. Posted by: Nip Sip
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Mrs. Hammer: "My god..., it's hot in here!"
15 minutes pass
Mrs. Hammer: "What is the thermostat set on..., it's cold in here."
.
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.
-repeat-
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.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 02:50 PM (aDwsi)

347 The Iraqi army disbanded itself. And the Bathe should all have been imprisoned til decrepitude. Posted by: DaveA at November 14, 2013 06:38 PM (DL2i+) It wasn't worth the billions we spent and the thousands they killed to solve Iraq's internal societal problems. We weren't even that stupid when we dealt with the Nazis after world war II. EVERYONE was a Nazi, just like the vast majority of Iraq was a Bathest. The people who knew how to run the country were the Bathests. Throwing them out of work and giving them a reason to attack and kill us was just stupid.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 02:50 PM (bb5+k)

348 You mean Hubris brings Nemesis? Yeah, that was our plan all along.

I kind of expected an epic clusterfuck out of Obama. 

After the 2009 1st year preview, it seemed clear he was in way over his head and wasn't ever going to come up to speed.   The bluster never settled down into seriousness...still hasn't

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 14, 2013 02:50 PM (Xlbr8)

349 Beware. It may be a trap. Or a ploy to get you away from the keyboard. Cats like to type shit. Posted by: Soona
---------------

This one does it all of the time. Any irrational comments with my nic? The cat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 02:51 PM (aDwsi)

350 Nothing hurts like real pain. These lessons are the ones that will last. This is accomplishing what no amount of logic, reason, financial argument, etc could. Yea, it sucks. Hard lessons are...hard. Posted by: Purp at November 14, 2013 06:42 PM (Xlbr And this is your best argument. The logic is unassailable.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 02:52 PM (bb5+k)

351 Wow. The next New York Times poll must look like Hiroshima for them to have published that piece. They are trying to sound the alarm to the White house before it comes out.

Posted by: rockmom who wants to win in 2016 at November 14, 2013 02:52 PM (vE1mx)

352 This one does it all of the time. Any irrational comments with my nic? The cat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 06:51 PM (aDwsi)

 

****

 

I figure the cat accounts for about 63% of your total output.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 14, 2013 02:52 PM (N/Sup)

353
The NYTimes has it all wrong as usual.

First, Katrina was Exhibit A of how media bias and Democrat misdirection gets Republicans blamed for *DEMOCRAT* incompetence, in this case the mistakes and incompetence of New Orleans Mayor and Democrat Governor Blanco caused a lot of hardship for NO residents, and Bush took the rap for what they did and didnt do.

Heck of a job, media!

Further, they have the wrong analogy - Obamacare is to Obama what Iraq is to Bush. Iraq was Bush's signature decision and it was his most unpopular one, that became an anchor and a weight around the whole GOP as there was 'no way out' of a war and a task of rebuilding a broken country.

Obamacare is Obama's quagmire, his lie, his broken promise, and a signature example of the price of hubristic Governmental meddling.

Posted by: Patrick M at November 14, 2013 02:52 PM (oNqbW)

354 Golfman in NC, where is your home course? My BIL is (well, was until very recently) a huge golfer. His home course is Alamance CC, but also has house and member at Wachesaw Plantation in Murrels Inlet SC. You could always tell he was the last to watch a tv when you turn it on and the golf channel is on. Always. His wish is to have his ashes scattered beside a certain hole.

Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 02:53 PM (E0+QH)

355 The Nazi party had about 8M members by the end of the war.  The majority of Germans weren't actual party members.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 14, 2013 02:53 PM (Xlbr8)

356 If you haven't read this yet: It Is a Trap http://m.nationalreview.com/corner/363943/it-trap-andrew-c-mccarthy re: upton bill

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Dancing With Myself at November 14, 2013 02:53 PM (IXrOn)

357 Bush's failure of Katrana was the last link in a shit sandwitch of goverment failure, that started went Individuals -> City -> County -> State -> Feds  by the time the shit sandwitch rolled up to Bush, there was little he could have done about it.

Obama's Failure is ENTIRELY the fedral government's shit sandwitch.  Everything stemed from Obama on down, and everythign that could have prevented this epic brownstorm of Montezuma's revenge is at the feet of the President.

Posted by: Emperor Norton II at November 14, 2013 02:53 PM (MlqTY)

358 Why the hell is Obama saying I can keep my flan?

Posted by: Emily Litella at November 14, 2013 02:53 PM (aDwsi)

359 Lessons in pain breed people who want strongmen, not republicans. And this was unnecessary. Because of John Roberts. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 14, 2013 06:45 PM (uhAkr) I agree with you that it was unnecessary, and likewise very harmful, but lessons in pain don't breed people who want strongmen when it is perceived that the strongman is causing the pain.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 02:54 PM (bb5+k)

360 Hi, baldilocks. I miss seeing you reading your comments around here.

Posted by: Retread at November 14, 2013 02:55 PM (IiAs3)

361 I figure the cat accounts for about 63% of your total output. Posted by: Seamus
=======

+/- 10%

More than 50%, anyhow.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 02:56 PM (aDwsi)

362
I predict massive health care horror stories in the next 6 months.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 14, 2013 02:56 PM (iGPSR)

363 His wish is to have his ashes scattered beside a certain hole.

Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 06:53 PM (E0+QH)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

 

Nope.  Not gonna say it.

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 02:57 PM (66ULQ)

364 After the 2009 1st year preview, it seemed clear he was in way over his head and wasn't ever going to come up to speed. The bluster never settled down into seriousness...still hasn't Posted by: Purp at November 14, 2013 06:50 PM (Xlbr I thought someone would have reminded everyone that the first act of his Presidency was to dive bomb New York in Air force I. Everyone should have recognized how unserious he was after that incident.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 02:57 PM (bb5+k)

365 366 even money on that. And in the six months after, and in the six months after.

Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 02:58 PM (E0+QH)

366 Tonight's meeting is about actual political business[/i[


That means "Hookers and Blow" right?

Posted by: Paladin at November 14, 2013 02:59 PM (YNPwP)

367 When ObamaCare failed, it was like Trayvon was shot all over again.

Posted by: --- at November 14, 2013 02:59 PM (MMC8r)

368

Coffee for my breakfast

Shot of whiskey on the side

It's a dark and dreary morning

With the clouds covering up the sky

 

The forecast calls for pain

The forecast calls for pain

My baby's turning cold

And the forecast calls for pain

 


/Robert Cray

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 14, 2013 02:59 PM (N/Sup)

369 Posted by: Purp at November 14, 2013 06:53 PM (Xlbr

Read Daniel Goldhagen's:

"Hitler's Willing Executioners"

http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/0679772685

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 02:59 PM (oJ5Fd)

370 Ha, golf hole. Dang, I have to remember specificity.

Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 03:00 PM (E0+QH)

371 Well, seems there may be some conservatives in academia after all:

https://tinyurl.com/ojhfcpk

The lecturer's comment at the end is perfect.

Posted by: Country Singer at November 14, 2013 03:01 PM (DE9KP)

372 I predict massive health care horror stories in the next 6 months.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 14, 2013 06:56 PM (iGPSR)

 

 

-------------------------------------------------

 

 

Just remember what Bill Ayers'  goal is. 

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 03:01 PM (66ULQ)

373 *waves at baldilocks*    We miss you too.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 14, 2013 03:01 PM (Gk3SS)

374 359 The Nazi party had about 8M members by the end of the war. The majority of Germans weren't actual party members. Posted by: Purp at November 14, 2013 06:53 PM (Xlbr Among the Judiciary, the Administrators, The Police, the various government agencies that ran things, i'm betting the number was closer to 100%. My point is, the allies recognized immediately that it was implausible to get new people up to speed fast enough to keep the country functioning. The allied plan turned out to be to allow the Nazis to keep running things, arrest and prosecute the worst among them, and let the others stay if they kept their noses clean thereafter. This method would have worked far better in Iraq than what we actually tried.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 03:02 PM (bb5+k)

375 The sad thing. LIV's and womyn are buying this bait and switch. My X read it and said she was happy she could get her policy back. I told her it was not going to happen. "But Obama said it would"!

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 03:03 PM (0FSuD)

376 When ObamaCare failed, it was like Trayvon was shot all over again.

Posted by: --- at November 14, 2013 06:59 PM (MMC8r)

 

 

---------------------------------------

 

 

OMG!  Now that you put it into perspective.........

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 03:03 PM (66ULQ)

377 Coffee for my breakfast
Shot of whiskey on the side
It's a dark and dreary morning
With the clouds covering up the sky

The forecast calls for pain
The forecast calls for pain
My baby's turning cold
And the forecast calls for pain

/Robert Cray

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 14, 2013 06:59 PM (N/Sup)

 

Love that song

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 14, 2013 03:04 PM (nTgAI)

378 Wow, Rove brings up the "Bribe" to the insurance companies to do this.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 03:05 PM (0FSuD)

379 lol from the daily mail http://tinyurl.com/np8jxvq Rob Ford goes on bizarre oral sex rant about his WIFE as he denies affair with staffer

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 14, 2013 03:06 PM (8JJ6O)

380 11 Isn't apologizing a sign of weakness?

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at November 14, 2013 05:36 PM (HVff2)

The prerequisite to using that quote is that you have integrity to begin with.

Posted by: tangonine at November 14, 2013 03:06 PM (x3YFz)

381 I predict massive health care horror stories in the next 6 months. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 14, 2013 06:56 PM (iGPSR) Big fucking deal. We won't report it.

Posted by: MSM at November 14, 2013 03:06 PM (oFCZn)

382

Probably dead by now - but FFS D-Lamp, that mythology, too?  Katrina and disbanding the Iraqi Army together? 

 

The IA self-disbanded.  You might have noticed that in the spring of 2003.  And de-Ba'athification was a given a minimum - and it wasn't even done ferociously enough.

 

The Sunnis of Iraq ruined and half-murdered the country for decades.  They continued to try to do this from 2003 onwards.  They were lucky they were not suppressed ruthlessly and essentially been removed from Iraqi life until they showed some resemblance to human beings.  The failure to punish the Sunnis for their behavior prolonged the problems in Iraq unnecessarily.

 

Instead of yelling at your radio, you might have tried spending a few years in Iraq, knowing some history, and thinking things through.  Or, not.  After all, WaPo and NPR-level idiocy is enough for most "smart" Americans, so .....

 

Posted by: non-purist at November 14, 2013 03:07 PM (afQnV)

383 Rob Ford for Mayor of AoSHQ.

Posted by: --- at November 14, 2013 03:08 PM (MMC8r)

384 "But Obama said it would"!

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 07:03 PM (0FSuD)

May I assume that the important word in that description is "ex?"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 03:08 PM (oJ5Fd)

385 This method would have worked far better in Iraq than what we actually tried. Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 07:02 PM (bb5+k) Never re-use a tried and successful technique when you can break new ground by inventing something new and different.

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 14, 2013 03:09 PM (XdnQT)

386 Ha! If Katrina happened under Obama the media would blame Sean Penn for showing up with that shotgun and giving people the impression all was not well.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at November 14, 2013 03:09 PM (6WVi+)

387 Late to the thread but I have to say that it still chaps my ass that the best response to a large scale natural disaster in the history of the United States is called a 'botched response'. The media meme machine are truly a bunch of suckers of cock.

Posted by: toby928© at November 14, 2013 03:11 PM (QupBk)

388 May I assume that the important word in that description is "ex?"
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 07:08 PM (oJ5Fd)


Let's not be hasty.   We need pics and vid to evaluate the hotassery quotient involved.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 14, 2013 03:11 PM (Gk3SS)

389 May I assume that the important word in that description is "ex?" Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 07:08 PM (oJ5Fd) She did go to UNC-CH so sometimes it's hard for her to figure things out, but she does vote right. Woman believe the MSM, why? Who knows.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 03:11 PM (0FSuD)

390 Any of you seen this? He might actually be imploding in the minds of his press sycophants. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/11/14/the-obama-disaster-news-conference/

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 03:11 PM (bb5+k)

391 I told her it was not going to happen. "But Obama said it would"! Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 07:03 PM (0FSuD) And then you said.....?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 14, 2013 03:11 PM (bCEmE)

392 Never re-use a tried and successful technique when you can break new ground by inventing something new and different.

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 14, 2013 07:09 PM (XdnQT)

Post-war Germany and post-war Iraq were completely different situations.

The Germans had gotten their asses kicked...thoroughly and completely...and they knew it.

The Iraqis watched their army lose, but nobody else was particularly inconvenienced.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 03:12 PM (oJ5Fd)

393 And then you said.....? Posted by: Tami at November 14, 2013 07:11 PM (bCEmE) I am still laughing.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 03:12 PM (0FSuD)

394 Ha! If Katrina happened under Obama the media would blame Sean Penn for showing up with that shotgun and giving people the impression all was not well.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at November 14, 2013 07:09 PM (6WVi+)

 

 

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First of all, it wouldn't have been Sean Penn in that boat.

Posted by: Sheriff Joe Biden at November 14, 2013 03:12 PM (66ULQ)

395 Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 07:11 PM (bb5+k) It's Jennifer Rubin, a milquetoast RINO type.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 14, 2013 03:12 PM (oFCZn)

396 So, the dumbass named Tourettes on MSNBC says Dihms in the Senate are attacking Teh One on Bammycare all due to "gerrymandering".  The stupid. it burns.

Posted by: Icedog at November 14, 2013 03:13 PM (uZ6Ul)

397 He might actually be imploding in the minds of his press sycophants. Jen Rubin is a supposed conservative. YMMV.

Posted by: --- at November 14, 2013 03:13 PM (MMC8r)

398 We need pics and vid to evaluate the hotassery quotient involved.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 14, 2013 07:11 PM (Gk3SS)

Always focused on the big...er...tight....uh...long-term picture.

Impressive.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 03:13 PM (oJ5Fd)

399 Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 06:53 PM (E0+QH) Bayonet between Fayetteville and Pinehurst. Known the super at Alamance for 20+ years. Never played Wachesaw though. We have a group that goes to Litchfield every year. Will have to add it to the list. We golfers have a certain affinity for our courses. From this morning's post I understand your love and respect for BIL. God bless him and those that his time here continues to bless.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 14, 2013 03:13 PM (/djtm)

400
It's obvious that Bush's biggest failure was not listening to Karl Rove.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 14, 2013 03:13 PM (tOkJB)

401 Oh Shit here we go, let me get the tools ready. The Dims break up and we have a fixit job of Biblical proportions... There is no fix for Obama Care , but there is a flush handle.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at November 14, 2013 03:14 PM (j6DTo)

402 Why wont upton just say that obama's "fix" is unconstitutional?!?!

Posted by: LASue at November 14, 2013 03:15 PM (gjIQF)

403 If you like your plan, you done been mizled!

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 14, 2013 03:15 PM (E1Cat)

404 I read about all this dem meltdown and (even though our employer based ins. will be on the chopping block) I hear Phyllis Diller laughter in my head.  I cannot help it or make it stop. I just hear  AH-HA, AH-HA, AH-HAHAHA! on a continuous loop every time I read a new story.

Posted by: madamemayhem at November 14, 2013 03:17 PM (S2RnE)

405 Mrs. Hammer: "My god..., it's hot in here!"
15 minutes pass
Mrs. Hammer: "What is the thermostat set on..., it's cold in here."
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Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 06:50 PM (aDwsi)


coffing...what room are you currently in?


and don't look behind you!

Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 03:17 PM (nqBYe)

406 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 07:12 PM (oJ5Fd) I agree that the fact of having quite thoutoughly kicked German ass in WW II gave us an advantage in getting their attention. I do think that having efficient and speedy trails for the most ruthless Baathists and continuing prosecution of any post war Iraqi officials that acted illegally might have worked. Unfortunately, "speedy and efficient" are not in the US government lexicon anymore!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 14, 2013 03:17 PM (XdnQT)

407 Just saw a great new name/acronym for ObamaCare that, for some reason, I'd never seen posted anywhere until now: Socialized Health Insurance Tax It was sittin' there right in front of us the whole time, and nobody used that acronym! We been slackin'.

Posted by: zombie at November 14, 2013 03:17 PM (+cx5n)

408 The republicans need to help Obama save face , do everything in their power to assure the World we have a Master on duty.

(said to me a couple of days ago)

 me (Just as was done for Bush.)

Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 03:18 PM (nqBYe)

409 Socialized Health Insurance Tax Posted by: zombie at November 14, 2013 07:17 PM (+cx5n) shit....brilliant

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 14, 2013 03:18 PM (8JJ6O)

410 Always focused on the big...er...tight....uh...long-term picture.

Impressive.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 07:13 PM (oJ5Fd)


One does one's humble best.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 14, 2013 03:19 PM (Gk3SS)

411 I hear Phyllis Diller laughter in my head. I cannot help it or make it stop. I just hear AH-HA, AH-HA, AH-HAHAHA! on a continuous loop every time I read a new story. Posted by: madamemayhem at November 14, 2013 07:17 PM (S2RnE) For me it's Charles Nelson Reilly busting a gut.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 14, 2013 03:19 PM (oFCZn)

412 Why wont upton just say that obama's "fix" is unconstitutional?!?! Posted by: LASue at November 14, 2013 07:15 PM (gjIQF) You mean the Upton that couldn't get the incandescent light bulb ban rescinded?

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 14, 2013 03:19 PM (XdnQT)

413 "It wasn't worth the billions we spent and the thousands they killed to solve Iraq's internal societal problems. We weren't even that stupid when we dealt with the Nazis after world war II. EVERYONE was a Nazi, just like the vast majority of Iraq was a Bathest. The people who knew how to run the country were the Bathests. Throwing them out of work and giving them a reason to attack and kill us was just stupid."

It was criminally stupid in particular to disband the Iraqi military without having any idea what all of those trained, disciplined men were going to do for a living other than take up arms against those who had just fired them.

There's an old quote from Jean Larteguy:

"I'd like to have two armies: one for display with lovely guns, tanks, little soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals, and dear little regimental officers who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles, an army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country. The other would be the real one, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display, but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught."

The USA should have kept the Ba'athists in charge of the army, and turned it into a lavishly well compensated, essentially ceremonial and toothless force of the sort Larteguy describes in his first example.

That would have been expensive, but yet cheaper than the incredibly expensive insurgency that developed after Saddam's army got the sack.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 14, 2013 03:19 PM (gqT4g)

414 Posted by: Hrothgar at November 14, 2013 07:17 PM (XdnQT)

What you suggest is rational, but using Germany to bolster the argument is specious.

And...unfortunately...you are correct about the impossibility of speedy trials!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 03:20 PM (oJ5Fd)

415 The Sunnis of Iraq ruined and half-murdered the country for decades. They continued to try to do this from 2003 onwards. Posted by: non-purist at November 14, 2013 07:07 PM (afQnV) Was. Not. Our. Problem. Was. Not. The. Reason. We Invaded. Getting entangled in a nation's internal social affairs was stupid, especially when it damages the PRIMARY MISSION. WMD, remember? To insure that Saddam could not destabilize the region by using Nuclear or Chemical (but especially Nuclear) Weapons of Mass destruction. Oppression of it's people is a fact of life in Most nations in the Middle east, and quite a lot of other places around the world. It's horrible, but the U.S. has no legitimate reason to play Lone Ranger to the world. WMD was a threat to our security, and therefore was a legitimate cause for us to act. Making life fair for the oppressed minority in Iraq? Not so much. The Damage that quagmire caused back home wasn't worth the entire goal of the Iraq war. We should have gotten in quickly and out quickly without trying to play referee between the Natives. Callous, but accurate. I'll bet you that in twenty years, the Sunnis will be back running everything again, and all our sacrifice on behalf of the Shias will have amounted to nothing.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 03:20 PM (bb5+k)

416 The mayor of Toronto needs to stop speaking and put down the crack pipe. When I think he can't gross me out any more, yup, he does.

Posted by: NCKate at November 14, 2013 03:20 PM (w7CQT)

417 >>Am I the only one who thinks he'll be a bitter bastard and work against anyone who beats him for the nom? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse As hard as he would fight for a loose Krispy Kreme that rolled out of a dropped box.

Posted by: Aviator at November 14, 2013 03:20 PM (DI+ja)

418 >>> I actually have social commitments this week (which I'm not at all happy about). Has anyone been able to interpret this Pig Latin gibberish?

Posted by: fluffy at November 14, 2013 03:21 PM (Ua6T/)

419 the long term picture, is a little  softening around the edges.

Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 03:21 PM (nqBYe)

420 I agree that the fact of having quite thoutoughly kicked German ass in WW II gave us an advantage in getting their attention. I do think that having efficient and speedy trails for the most ruthless Baathists and continuing prosecution of any post war Iraqi officials that acted illegally might have worked.

Unfortunately, "speedy and efficient" are not in the US government lexicon anymore!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 14, 2013 07:17 PM (XdnQT)

 

 

---------------------------------------------------

 

 

Yup.  Gitmo should have been cleaned out by "attrition"  way before Dear Leader came to office. 

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 03:21 PM (66ULQ)

421 Thanks. I think all of my family are just so much better people than me. That goes for my natural ones and my brothers and sisters in law. I was the baby, by a long way, ten years younger than the closest one and I was wild. Wild and smart is a dangerous combo. You tend to get by on natural talent and that makes you not appreciate things as much, until you get really smart and realize what is important.

Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 03:21 PM (E0+QH)

422 Mrs. Hammer: "My god..., it's hot in here!"
15 minutes pass
Mrs. Hammer: "What is the thermostat set on..., it's cold in here."
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Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 06:50 PM (aDwsi)


UH OH.  Quick, buy some estrogen pills and spike her drink.

You'll thank me. Or you'll be in jail so . .  you'll thank me.

(or deceased if she finds out. So . . . you'll thank me.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 14, 2013 03:21 PM (LSDdO)

423 We've been ditched for a pointy elbowed ginger probably! Why Not!? Better that than a keyboard and a mouse and the risk of photons from the screen hitting that one special eye-nerve that could trigger a Hulk-Ewok rampage. The only thing that BO has in common with GW is the ... is the ... no, no comparisons actually work. ... and besides, one of them was an actual Man, a real live human being, and not just a suit full of cotton.

Posted by: and irresolute at November 14, 2013 03:22 PM (RqHWH)

424 Mrs. Hammer: "My god..., it's hot in here!"
15 minutes pass
Mrs. Hammer: "What is the thermostat set on..., it's cold in here."
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-repeat-
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Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 06:50 PM (aDwsi)


You could point and laugh when the tips of her ears turn red, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Posted by: Retread at November 14, 2013 03:22 PM (IiAs3)

425 Cillizza at the WaPo is bashing Obama now too.  He's been a pretty reliable knob polisher in the past.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 14, 2013 03:22 PM (Xlbr8)

426 For me it's Charles Nelson Reilly busting a gut.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 14, 2013 07:19 PM (oFCZn)

 

 

 

 

 

=========

 

 

 

Oooh! Maybe we can get a Paul Lynde snicker in the mix. 

I watched waaaaay to many game shows as a child. Yep.

Posted by: madamemayhem at November 14, 2013 03:22 PM (S2RnE)

427 The monday night quarter backing of Iraq not having wmd's IS monday night quarterbacking.

The Iraq Liberation Act stated He had WMD's and a desire to use them, Before Bush was President in 1998, we had several allies give information stating the same.

we had 9-11 and everyone screaming WHY didn't you stop this.
Iraq was a known weapons user.

it fit at the time , very well.

Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 03:23 PM (nqBYe)

428 Has anyone been able to interpret this Pig Latin gibberish?
Posted by: fluffy at November 14, 2013 07:21 PM (Ua6T/)


You'll need to be more specific than that.

WHICH particular bit of Pig Latin gibberish are you referring to?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 14, 2013 03:23 PM (LSDdO)

429 Mrs. Hammer: "My god..., it's hot in here!" 15 minutes pass Mrs. Hammer: "What is the thermostat set on..., it's cold in here." . . . -repeat- Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 06:50 PM (aDwsi) Wait....you're married to me?!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 14, 2013 03:23 PM (bCEmE)

430 You could point and laugh when the tips of her ears turn red, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Posted by: Retread at November 14, 2013 07:22 PM (IiAs3)


or even mention it MIGHT be menopause.

Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 03:24 PM (nqBYe)

431 Gitmo should have been cleaned out by "attrition" way before Dear Leader came to office.

Posted by: Soona at November 14, 2013 07:21 PM (66ULQ)

Nope. It should never have existed.

Battlefield execution of all combatants not in uniform and fighting under the flag of a sovereign nation when captured.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 03:24 PM (oJ5Fd)

432 Never re-use a tried and successful technique when you can break new ground by inventing something new and different. Posted by: Hrothgar at November 14, 2013 07:09 PM (XdnQT) If you talk about competence in Running a war, and Running a conquered nation, I will argue that the Men of World War II are the gold standard by which others should be measured. Trying to police Iraq's internal affairs caused domestic Damage to this country of which the Reacquisition of the Congress by the Democrats and the Ascendency of Barack to the Presidency were the very destructive and real consequences. Had we not attempted that folly, the nation would have been saved trillions of dollars and thousands of lives. There may also have been sufficient will left over to neuter Iran as well. Trying to police the conflict between Sunnis and Shias in Iraq may very well end up costing millions of lives as the result of a Nuclear Iran.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 03:24 PM (bb5+k)

433 UH OH. Quick, buy some estrogen pills and spike her drink. You'll thank me. Or you'll be in jail so . . you'll thank me. (or deceased if she finds out. So . . . you'll thank me.) Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 14, 2013 07:21 PM (LSDdO) Not a good idea if there is any cancer in her family's history. Those pills can be more trouble than the relief.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 03:25 PM (0FSuD)

434 Peters/Gruber vs Golan/Globus?

Posted by: soothie at November 14, 2013 03:25 PM (QQuUC)

435 Posted by: Rockhound at November 14, 2013 07:22 PM (BAS5M)

It was so forced that it actually became funny.

Shelley Long didn't suck (much) either.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 14, 2013 03:25 PM (LSDdO)

436 Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 14, 2013 06:50 PM (aDwsi) Dress in layers and add or shed as required to make your personal space livable. Men do not generally win thermostat wars.

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 14, 2013 03:25 PM (XdnQT)

437 or even mention it MIGHT be menopause.

Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 07:24 PM (nqBYe)

 

 

*****

 

 

Another example of the insidious nature of the patriarchy.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 14, 2013 03:26 PM (N/Sup)

438 Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 07:25 PM (0FSuD)

You've obviously mistaken me for someone who's serious.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 14, 2013 03:26 PM (LSDdO)

439 Yeah Paul Lynde laugh is better because it always had that snark in it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 14, 2013 03:26 PM (oFCZn)

440 Maybe we can get aPaul Lynde snicker in the mix. That's what I hear. Didn't he do the laugh for some cartoon sniggery dog?

Posted by: toby928© at November 14, 2013 03:26 PM (QupBk)

441 I WANT WINE.


just sayin..sniff.

Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 03:26 PM (nqBYe)

442 427 For me it's Tom Hanks gut busting like he did in The Money Pit when the bathtub fell through the floor.

http://youtu.be/wdYPxFMhEkE

Posted by: Rockhound at November 14, 2013 07:22 PM (BAS5M)

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That's a good one too.  I love that scene. 

OHOHOH!  I'VE GOT IT!!!!  ARNOLD HORSCHACK FROM WELCOME BACK COTTER!!!  THAT'S IT!!!

Posted by: madamemayhem at November 14, 2013 03:26 PM (S2RnE)

443 Hillary's campaign speeches can be about how she would have accomplished this 20 years ago if not for those fucking jew republican bastards...

Posted by: --- at November 14, 2013 03:26 PM (MMC8r)

444 or even mention it MIGHT be menopause.
Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 07:24 PM (nqBYe)


*****


Another example of the insidious nature of the patriarchy.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 14, 2013 07:26 PM (N/Sup)

sooo true. thank you

Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 03:27 PM (nqBYe)

445 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 14, 2013 07:21 PM (LSDdO)

Or tie her to the bed and cook steaks on her chest.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 03:27 PM (oJ5Fd)

446 I want Graeters ice cream.

Posted by: NCKate at November 14, 2013 03:27 PM (w7CQT)

447 or even mention it MIGHT be menopause.

Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 07:24 PM (nqBYe)


aka 'my own private climate.'

Posted by: Retread at November 14, 2013 03:27 PM (IiAs3)

448 The Germans had gotten their asses kicked...thoroughly and completely...and they knew it. The Iraqis watched their army lose, but nobody else was particularly inconvenienced. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 07:12 PM (oJ5Fd) It sounds like you are arguing that trying to police the Iraqis was even dumber than trying to police the Germans. Once again, we weren't as harsh on the Nazi Germans as we were to the Bathist Iraqis.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 03:27 PM (bb5+k)

449 Trying to police the conflict between Sunnis and Shias in Iraq may very well end up costing millions of lives as the result of a Nuclear Iran. Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 07:24 PM (bb5+k) Sadly, I fear this comment is all too valid.

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 14, 2013 03:28 PM (XdnQT)

450 nu

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 14, 2013 03:28 PM (8JJ6O)

451 @443 I knew you were kidding. Estrogen is not much help for most woman and can be pretty dangerous.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 03:28 PM (0FSuD)

452 Anyone see the Metlife commercial for life insurance? It's designed for "old" people, 45-75 yoa and they're calling it "Final Expense"...seriously.

I think they've come up with the financial solution for Obamacare.

Posted by: Icedog at November 14, 2013 03:28 PM (uZ6Ul)

453 Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 07:23 PM (nqBYe)

There you go. Using logic, reason and facts to dispute a Liberal talking point.

You should know better by now.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 14, 2013 03:28 PM (LSDdO)

454 I want Graeters ice cream.

Posted by: NCKate at November 14, 2013 07:27 PM (w7CQT)

They carry it around here, but it's $5.50-$6.50/pint.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2013 03:29 PM (oJ5Fd)

455 Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 07:28 PM (0FSuD)

You're stepping all over my joke.

Stop.

Estrogen, mydol, Ambien, a shot of jack, whatever works. M'kay?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at November 14, 2013 03:30 PM (LSDdO)

456 it fit at the time , very well.

There were comms intercepts of his field commanders radioing back saying: "where's all this chem shit you promised us we could use against the Americans!!!?!?!?!  WTF we're getting clobbered."

Saddam even had his own people convinced he had huge stockpiles tucked away somewhere. 

He shipped some to Lebanon, he destroyed some for UN show, all the while telling his commanders not to worry we got more.

When your own generals are convinced, its hard for the rest of the world to not be too.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 14, 2013 03:30 PM (Xlbr8)

457 news roundup thread up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2013 03:31 PM (DmNpO)

458 The worst is the pregnant wife that is hot cold hot cold, I can't figure out what the Hell is going on. I keep getting woken up with all the covers piled on top of me, then woken up with "why did you take all the covers?"

Posted by: traye at November 14, 2013 03:31 PM (E0+QH)

459 Saddam's WMD bluff wasn't even directed at us, it was for the benefit of the Iran, to keep them at bay.  Chem weapons are the poor mans nuke.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 14, 2013 03:32 PM (Xlbr8)

460 We don't have it around Charlotte. They carry it in Raleigh at Kroger. Yes, I've driven there to buy it.

Posted by: NCKate at November 14, 2013 03:32 PM (w7CQT)

461 The New York Times is slowly being infiltrated by counter-progressive forces of racism, sexism, and homophobia. The standard-bearer for American media must not be allowed to fall back into the wrong hands. Mexican drug lord and paper owner Carlos Slim must give up his alliances with international bankers and allow the Times to be published by a people's committee that spreads the truth of social and economic justice and not the tired lies of the past.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at November 14, 2013 03:32 PM (9OdDd)

462 For all you menopausal ladies (or gentlemen who have ladies with that condition)...........   bio - identical pellet therapy.  No synthetics, or animal hormones,  both of those cause problems.  My doc will not prescribe pills for that reason. Creams, patches will work to a certain extent, but the best choice is pellet therapy.  That shit rocks.  Hubbymayhem keeps threatening to hug my doctor.

Posted by: madamemayhem at November 14, 2013 03:32 PM (S2RnE)

463 It was criminally stupid in particular to disband the Iraqi military without having any idea what all of those trained, disciplined men were going to do for a living other than take up arms against those who had just fired them. Posted by: torquewrench at November 14, 2013 07:19 PM (gqT4g) That is EXACTLY why I was screaming at the radio! The most deadly men in the nation, and we want to put them out of peaceful work and give them a reason to hate us and see us destroyed? What kind of fucking moron thinks this is a good idea?

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 03:33 PM (bb5+k)

464 The Iraq Liberation Act stated He had WMD's and a desire to use them, Before Bush was President in 1998, we had several allies give information stating the same. we had 9-11 and everyone screaming WHY didn't you stop this. Iraq was a known weapons user. it fit at the time , very well. Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 07:23 PM (nqBYe) Do not get me wrong. I supported and do support the invasion of Iraq. It was exactly the right thing to have done given the information which we had. The Invasion was handled expertly. The occupation was utterly clusterfucked up. As Hrothgar said above, we should have paid the Iraqi army to stay at their posts. It would have been far cheaper than to unleash them by ambush on our soldiers. It did even more damage domestically.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 03:41 PM (bb5+k)

465 giving them a reason to attack and kill us was just stupid.

I kind of figured you'd volunteer for the ignore user.

BuhBye!

Posted by: DaveA at November 14, 2013 03:42 PM (DL2i+)

466 We need pics

On a more amusing note:

http://cheezburger.com/7897649408

Posted by: DaveA at November 14, 2013 03:46 PM (DL2i+)

467 I kind of figured you'd volunteer for the ignore user. BuhBye! Posted by: DaveA at November 14, 2013 07:42 PM (DL2i+) If you are that stupid, you don't need to hear me anyway.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 14, 2013 03:59 PM (bb5+k)

468 Ace finally screws up the courage to hit the Thursday after-work party at Evolve Lounge. The same night that Ray Kelly's vice squads are raiding every questionable bar in Manhattan. Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at November 14, 2013 03:59 PM (a5ljo)

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451 I want Graeters ice cream. Posted by: NCKate at November 14, 2013 07:27 PM (w7CQT)

 

 OMG. I had a roommate from Cinny more than 25 years ago and she brought some Graeters back with her when she went there for Thanksgiving. A few months ago, I was in a grocery store here in Milwaukee and what did I spot but pints of Graeter's - they sell it here now. I held out for a month, but it was in the back of my mind. Finally, I broke down and bought a pint of the peach ice cream. It's just as good as I remembered it being.

 

Now I avoid that particular grocery store chain just because I know they have it.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 14, 2013 04:19 PM (R3gO3)

470 474 Ha! I went to school in Cincinnati. Loved Graeters. They sell it in Krogers but we don't have them here yet.

Posted by: NCKate at November 14, 2013 04:41 PM (w7CQT)

471 I call BS comparing health care to Katrina. Katrina was about the incompetence and failure of a Dem mayor and governor. Yeah, Bush got tagged thanks to the media...the same lazy ass media that refused to cover the ACA trainwreck which was known to be coming for years.

Posted by: Coleridge at November 14, 2013 05:06 PM (BglJL)

472 "I actually have social commitments this week (which I'm not at all happy about)." That means the poor guy is putting in 3 nights of extra work and still not getting any nookie.

Posted by: wodun at November 14, 2013 05:51 PM (fbqZE)

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