March 14, 2013
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Pope Francis seems liberal on social justice but sadly traditional on sexuality and contraception
Gateway Pundit writes that the pope has been linked to an Anti-Marxist organization. It's called "The Catholic Church."
No but really it's called Comunione e Liberazione.
#RealReporters NYT, Boston Globe, and WaPo All Rush to Promote Pope's Twitter Feed... except it's a parody feed.
Well you can hardly blame them. It's not like every single newsworthy event produces a dozen parody feeds
Erin Burnett Is a Sad Panda Too: Their favorite tactic -- actually, everyone's favorite tactic in politics -- is to claim "If you adopt my politics, you'll become more popular, Serious You Guys."
Erin Burnett to the Pope: Serious You Guys, you need to be liberal.
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Posted by: Serious Cat at March 14, 2013 10:29 AM (UypUQ)
You mean the Pope of the Catholic Church has the TEMERITY to be CATHOLIC!!?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 14, 2013 10:29 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 14, 2013 10:29 AM (4OvDk)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 14, 2013 02:29 PM (UypUQ)
Among many, many, many other things.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 14, 2013 10:29 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 10:29 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: rd at March 14, 2013 10:30 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: willow-ette at March 14, 2013 10:30 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 14, 2013 10:30 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 14, 2013 10:31 AM (I7p2r)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 14, 2013 10:31 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 14, 2013 10:31 AM (TOk1P)
That's as much the center of a system of religious belief and dogmatic practice as the church. Thus your expectations should be as limited for success.
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at March 14, 2013 10:31 AM (XrGnJ)
What reading material does he take with him?
Posted by: ALH at March 14, 2013 10:32 AM (yAPdC)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 14, 2013 10:32 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 10:32 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: midday on the beach at March 14, 2013 10:33 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 14, 2013 10:33 AM (4OvDk)
Posted by: Jean at March 14, 2013 10:33 AM (S4AQU)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 14, 2013 02:31 PM (UCv7P)
Wrong, Infinit.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 14, 2013 10:33 AM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2013 10:33 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: willow-ette at March 14, 2013 10:33 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 14, 2013 10:33 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 14, 2013 10:34 AM (vzLhi)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 14, 2013 10:34 AM (feFL6)
Kristoff...
He's the guy who swooned back in 2007, when Barky recited the Muslim Shahada in perfect Arabic, and said that the Muslim call to prayer, was...'The most beautiful sound' in the world.
Posted by: wheatie at March 14, 2013 10:34 AM (2xMNt)
Posted by: Jean at March 14, 2013 02:33 PM (S4AQU)
Been trying to figure that one out meself.... what DO the non US Jesuits mean by Social Justice...
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2013 10:34 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: eleven at March 14, 2013 10:34 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: mallfly at March 14, 2013 10:35 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 14, 2013 10:35 AM (4OvDk)
Posted by: MWR
Yeah, like the prick in the Lexus commercials.
That bad guy in Ronin.
Posted by: Roddy Piper at March 14, 2013 10:35 AM (rdy8w)
Posted by: Jean at March 14, 2013 10:35 AM (S4AQU)
Posted by: waldo truth at March 14, 2013 10:35 AM (3VhRQ)
Posted by: Jay Carney Ready to Shit or Quit at March 14, 2013 10:36 AM (wIgpo)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 14, 2013 10:36 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 14, 2013 10:36 AM (yhYn1)
Obama has a lot in common with the scandals of the Catholic Church.
It seems that no matter if you overspend on a "meeting" in Vegas, or let an ambassador to Libya get himself killed by refusing extra security, members of the Obama Administration keep getting reshuffled from one job to another rather than being actually "let go."
You know .. just like what the bishops used to do with all those pedophile priests.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 14, 2013 10:36 AM (e8kgV)
I'm lovin all the NON Catholic Blacks here in Hollywood who are pissed because they didn't choose a Black Pope...
Because President aint enough...
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2013 10:36 AM (lZBBB)
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"The first Jesuit pope? Well, yes, in a manner of speaking. Bergoglio is an old-school Jesuit, formed by classic Ignatian spirituality and deeply committed to an intelligent, sophisticated appropriation and proclamation of the full symphony of Catholic truth — qualities not notable for their prevalence among members of the Society of Jesus in the early 21st century. I suspect there were not all that many champagne corks flying last night in those Jesuit residences throughout the world where the Catholic Revolution That Never Was is still regarded as the ecclesiastical holy grail. For the shrewder of the new pope’s Jesuit brothers know full well that that dream was just dealt another severe blow. And they perhaps fear that this pope, knowing the Society of Jesus and its contemporary confusions and corruptions as he does, just might take in hand the reform of the Jesuits that was one of the signal failures of the pontificate of John Paul II."
Source: NRO
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 14, 2013 10:36 AM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 14, 2013 10:36 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: midday on the beach at March 14, 2013 10:36 AM (XYSwB)
The pic of the female golfer on Drudge is absolutely rack-tastic! I think I'm going to need some "alone time" in the bathroom.
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 10:36 AM (GQ8sn)
What the Catholic Church traditionally teaches about social justice is to work personally to help others.
One is a top-down diktat of theft while the other tells people to get out there and help.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 10:36 AM (X81fn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 14, 2013 10:37 AM (XkWWK)
2I think the New Pope looks remarkably like actor Jonathan Pryce (the Villain from Tomorrow Never Dies).
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Don't forget Juan Peron from Evita
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 14, 2013 10:37 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: zsasz at March 14, 2013 10:37 AM (MMC8r)
Seeing as how Argentina's First Lady said his views on abortion were "medieval and similar to the Inquisition," I figured him to be a good man, who will adhere to the teachings of the Church. Even more important: it appears he will adhere to the teachings of God through scripture.
I am not Catholic and I pray for Pope Francis to lead and ignore secular wishes.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at March 14, 2013 10:37 AM (baL2B)
Posted by: waldo truth at March 14, 2013 10:37 AM (3VhRQ)
"I don't get "social justice". No one ever defines that term."
Whatever a leftist says it means. We're supposed to just nod in agreement. See:
Social justice
White privilege
Environmental justice
etc., etc., etc.,
Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 10:37 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: MWR
Yeah, like the prick in the Lexus commercials.
That bad guy in Ronin.
Posted by: Roddy Piper at March 14, 2013 02:35 PM (rdy8w)
And the prez/Zartan in GI Joe.
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 10:37 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Jean at March 14, 2013 10:38 AM (S4AQU)
They say anti-marxist group like it's a bad thing.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 14, 2013 10:38 AM (NJs1e)
Is that where I saw him?
Posted by: Captain Jack Sparrow at March 14, 2013 10:38 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: zsasz at March 14, 2013 02:37 PM (MMC8r)
Pope Honey Badger I.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 14, 2013 10:38 AM (DrWcr)
32 -
I believe it's more of a matter of one's personal ministry (for the cleric involved). If you are familiar with the Jesuit order, you know that these guys do NOT take a vow of poverty, and lots of them live a rather ritzy lifestyle, especially those who have been attached to American Jusuit universities.
So if Pope Francis is living a social ministry, it means essentially, he's living among the poor. Living simply, and practicing what he preaches.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 14, 2013 10:38 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Craig Poe at March 14, 2013 10:38 AM (BVkEs)
Pelosi is now "at war" with her our Church.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 14, 2013 10:38 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 14, 2013 10:38 AM (9P+hO)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 14, 2013 10:39 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at March 14, 2013 02:37 PM (baL2B)
Well.... no one expected the Inquisition....
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2013 10:39 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Typical Lefty [/i] at March 14, 2013 10:39 AM (feFL6)
I don't get "social justice". No one ever defines that term.
Per Kathy Shaidle of the fivefeetoffury blog (hmmm....five feet of fury...sounds familiar)
Social justice: The stubborn application of unworkable solutions to imaginary problems.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at March 14, 2013 10:39 AM (BrQrN)
In accordance with our decision to be as humble and connected to the People as is possible, we have decided to answer a question a day on this, your Internet.
"Does the pope shit in the woods?" We admit to being pleasantly surprised at the number of times this scatological inquiry has been made, not only of us but as if it were an Eternal Mystery.
Gentle Respondent, we can confirm that we have done so in the past while we were still amongst the Worldly. However we are but one Blessed day Invested with the Holy Mitre and we shall hopefully not be so inconvenienced in the future.
Regards and Blessings to you All,
Pope Francis I
Posted by: Pope Francis I at March 14, 2013 10:39 AM (3ZtZW)
Well there is a superficial similarity between distributionism and redistributionism that would lead and ignorant MSM F*ck to make the error of mistaking one for the other. We'll get to see what His Holiness really thinks at this point. I'll tell you a couple of things that likely will not happen, Distributionism will not become Ex cathedra and therefore not actual cannon beyond reproach. AND You will not see His Holiness side with liberals in American Politics thanks to Obamacare.
Good job burning that bridge BTW.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 14, 2013 10:39 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 14, 2013 10:39 AM (Ud5vq)
Posted by: ejo at March 14, 2013 10:39 AM (GXvSO)
Posted by: Whatev at March 14, 2013 10:40 AM (A7Wh1)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 14, 2013 10:40 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2013 10:40 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 14, 2013 10:40 AM (wbmaj)
I was dreading the Vatican electing the Joo-hating leftist cardinal from Nicaragua.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 14, 2013 02:37 PM (XkWWK)
good to know.
Posted by: willow-ette at March 14, 2013 10:40 AM (nqBYe)
I don't get "social justice". No one ever defines that term.
I think it's a lot like "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
Posted by: Insomniac at March 14, 2013 10:40 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 02:37 PM (GQ8sn)
Spoiler?
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 14, 2013 02:39 PM (UypUQ)
Not really. It's shown in the trailer.
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 10:40 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 14, 2013 10:40 AM (AC0lD)
from the now dead previous thread:
Extra points for making a nominee cry.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 14, 2013 02:16 PM (4OvDk)
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Heheh. My senior year of high school they did a city wide high school fake congress thing. My best friend and I sat in on some "committee" where this stupid bubbleheaded chick introduced....I don't even know what it was, a resolution?...that was supposed disapprove/make illegal any form of "compulsory voting." I ask to be recognized and immediately start blowing holes in her little work. I can see her tearing up and I've proven my point, so I sit down, leaving quite a bit unsaid. My best friend immediately asks to be recognized and then she fucking lays out the girl on all the things I didn't say. Girl sits down weeping.
Our teacher was sitting in the audience laughing and giving us the thumbs up.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 14, 2013 02:33 PM (da5Wo)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 14, 2013 10:40 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Roy at March 14, 2013 10:40 AM (VndSC)
To regressives, social justice is as follows:
"Your race/gender/religion/sexual orientation/fetish culture/etc have spent centuries being oppressed by white male Christian heterosexuals. We will attempt to balance the scales for your years of oppression by making sure that white male Christian heterosexuals pay back to you -- either through money, housing, employment, or some other form of wealth redistribution -- everything they have taken from your race/gender/religion/sexual orientation/fetish culture for centuries. It's time to make them feel your heritage of pain. Let us help you."
Or, to put it more succinctly: "Fuck whitey."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 14, 2013 10:40 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2013 10:41 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 14, 2013 10:41 AM (4OvDk)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 14, 2013 02:39 PM (wbmaj)
Verbum
Posted by: St. Jerome at March 14, 2013 10:41 AM (8ZskC)
It's ying to his yang. Curiously enough, a balanced approach.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 14, 2013 10:41 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Jean at March 14, 2013 02:37 PM (S4AQU)
Semper Spartacus??? Always Spartacus??? LOL.... non existant...
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2013 10:41 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 10:41 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: ejo at March 14, 2013 10:42 AM (GXvSO)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2013 10:42 AM (9Bj8R)
"The pic of the female golfer on Drudge is absolutely rack-tastic! I think I'm going to need some "alone time" in the bathroom"
That's Natalie Gulb.... something. She has a habit of "stretching" before tee shots by putting the club behind her head w/both hands...
BRB.
Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 10:42 AM (lbiWb)
I went to a Jesuit University, and their housing complex had a room full of booze the size of a college cafeteria.
Posted by: The Q at March 14, 2013 10:42 AM (yVmMc)
Posted by: NickKristof at March 14, 2013 10:43 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 14, 2013 10:43 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: The New York Times at March 14, 2013 10:43 AM (pmsMR)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 14, 2013 10:43 AM (0q2P7)
What the Catholic Church traditionally teaches about social justice is to work personally to help others.
So for example, the Godly version of social justice would be running charity hospitals to give basic care to whichever poor you can help, as opposed to government mandated robbery of everyone in order to hand goodies to those who vote the preferred way.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2013 10:43 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 14, 2013 10:43 AM (C8mVl)
BRB.
She's about to exceed the maximum safe rackage for that sports bra.
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 10:44 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: midday on the beach at March 14, 2013 10:44 AM (XYSwB)
A few years back a newspaper sent a young stringer to cover the jubilee of a local Catholic bishop. The stringer, obviously not a Catholic, referred to the bishop as "wearing colorful costumes and a pointy hat."
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 14, 2013 10:44 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 14, 2013 10:44 AM (SO2Q8)
As I said yesterday the Jesuits have been using that term "social justice" since forever. It does not mean the same thing that these Marxists have perverted it to.
Posted by: Vic at March 14, 2013 10:45 AM (53z96)
Posted by: ejo at March 14, 2013 10:45 AM (GXvSO)
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 02:44 PM (GQ8sn)
Gee, that would be a shame.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 14, 2013 10:45 AM (da5Wo)
Our teacher was sitting in the audience laughing and giving us the thumbs up.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 14, 2013 02:33 PM (da5Wo)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 14, 2013 02:40 PM (da5Wo)
In the 70's, my High School let the Seniors have 3 days for a 'Mock Political Convention'.... me and my Friends volunteered to run security.... you know... make sure the Pimp and Whore Party didn't bring in weapons and such...
We then proceeded to throw a Military Coup on the last day.... 2 teachers busted a gut.... others were 'not amused'....
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2013 10:45 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Y-not at March 14, 2013 10:45 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2013 10:45 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: Y-not at March 14, 2013 10:45 AM (5H6zj)
'Social Justice' is getting through other means of coersion something you wouldn't be able to get in a court of law.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 14, 2013 10:45 AM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Phinn at March 14, 2013 10:46 AM (oFH2D)
Not sure exactly what, if anything, that portends.
Posted by: Ron Penfound at March 14, 2013 10:46 AM (Q1DS+)
Posted by: Vic at March 14, 2013 10:46 AM (53z96)
AllenG, I am not sure who stole the phrase in the matter. But I bet the Progressive-Socialists did and turned it upside down. Its their nature to steal, lie, and destroy what is good by inverting it.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 10:46 AM (X81fn)
Pelosi asked Feinstein to help her prepare her response to the Pope after learning he may excommunicate her: This is her response.
I'm not a sixth grader,” she told the Pope. “I'm not a priest, but after 20 years I've been up close and personal to Catholicism. I have great respect for it … it's fine you want to lecture me on being Catholic. I appreciate it. Just know I've been here for a long time. I've attended a number of masses. I've studied the Canons myself. I am reasonably well educated, and I thank you for the lecture.”
Posted by: polynikes at March 14, 2013 10:46 AM (m2CN7)
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"Social justice" is where your betters tell you what you can have and what you must do. It's a euphemism for fascism just as "social disease" is a euphemism for venereal disease.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2013 10:46 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 10:46 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: Vic at March 14, 2013 02:46 PM (53z96)
Vic! I mean Matt!
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 10:46 AM (GQ8sn)
I kind of see it in the old pics, but Pope Francis yesterday looked nothing like him
Posted by: The Q at March 14, 2013 10:47 AM (yVmMc)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2013 02:45 PM (lZBBB)
That's awesome. Today they'd call the SWAT team down on you, throw your parents in jail and confiscate any guns they had.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 14, 2013 10:47 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 14, 2013 10:47 AM (4OvDk)
*sigh*
Has she ever done any watersports? Any pics of her in a wetsuit?
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 10:48 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: eleven at March 14, 2013 10:48 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 14, 2013 10:48 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 10:48 AM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 10:49 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: comatus at March 14, 2013 10:49 AM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Buzzion at March 14, 2013 10:49 AM (8WDas)
Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at March 14, 2013 10:49 AM (jIaZt)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 02:29 PM (6zgse)
They had to put Sally somewhere after she slept around with Ben Bradlee while he was still married to his second wife before he traded down for her, so why not give her something she knows nothing about and let her make a complete fool out of herself. The entire MFM has gone Al Roker in the White House in covering this new Pope process.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2013 10:50 AM (zHyAo)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2013 10:50 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 14, 2013 10:50 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2013 10:50 AM (g7q64)
Pervert.
Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 14, 2013 02:50 PM (8ZskC)
*points to ribbon with clusters on chest*
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 10:50 AM (GQ8sn)
And we had eliminated it in this country until we banned DDT for no reason and then opened the border to every third world shithead in the universe.
Posted by: Vic at March 14, 2013 10:51 AM (53z96)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 14, 2013 02:47 PM (4OvDk)
Lmao. The best part about making the idiot look like an idiot? She was all confident and thought she had our support. The previous bill/resolution offered up was one approving compulsory/mandatory voting. My friend and I destroyed that one. Then she stands up and says her blather. I asked to be recognized and she's standing there smiling, like I'm about to start tossing softballs to her.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 14, 2013 10:51 AM (da5Wo)
#138, That's it. Couldn't remember the spelling.
ec, sure, lot's o'pics, but I'm not sure Vic would approve
(kidding)
Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 10:51 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Nick Kristoff at March 14, 2013 10:51 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2013 10:51 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 14, 2013 10:52 AM (feFL6)
@JonahNRO
Hey come look for me at CPAC, I'm the tall heavy set white guy in his 40s. Can't miss me!
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 14, 2013 10:52 AM (UCv7P)
Yes, please do tell.
Posted by: awol Ukrainian dolphin at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (rdy8w)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2013 02:51 PM (Hx5uv)
Really?
Posted by: John Phillip Souza at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (lZBBB)
***
While skimming a little cream off the top for yourself.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (X81fn)
Our teacher was sitting in the audience laughing and giving us the thumbs up.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 14, 2013 02:33 PM (da5Wo)
It must have been junior year of high school we did something similar in my US history class. I can't remember all the details, but some of us were supposed to be members of a panel of 19th century individuals -- just average folks, like you'd get at a town meeting -- and the rest of the class were supposed to be other townsfolk. Each of us on the panel (I was one of them) had a character assigned to us; I got to be a teetotaler mother of three. Pretty cool. 
I can't remember how the conversation got where it did, but at one point one of the "townsfolk" asked why our girls couldn't wear pants to school like the boys. The others on the panel gave typical answers for their characters -- the politician hedged, the sheriff muttered about law and order, blah, blah -- so when it got to me I was all excited. "They don't wear pants because you can see the V of their legs and its unacceptable."
"But why? If boys can wear pants, why can't the girls?"
"I told you why!"
"But shouldn't girls be able-"
"No, it's OBSCENE!"
The questioner just ended up blinking at me and then sitting down, since my teetotaler mother of three was clearly not goign to change her mind. The teacher gave me a thumbs up and chuckled out a, "Very nice, Melissa."
I like to think I was giving my classmate a crash course in what it's like to talk to a regressive. They'll never listen to you, no matter what you say, so the best you can do is try to get around them and ambush them when they're not paying attention.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (vyPsz)
Posted by: Y-not at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Uncle Joe Biden at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (+GpbP)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (4OvDk)
Posted by: ejo at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (GXvSO)
Ahhh, Natalie Gulbis. Do a google image search for about a weeks supply of "reading material"
I've posted some on the ONT from time to time.
Got some use out of those.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 14, 2013 10:53 AM (CJjw5)
http://tinyurl.com/b2a859q
http://tinyurl.com/ae3s7er
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 14, 2013 10:54 AM (da5Wo)
https://sites.google.com/site/genriettasoldo/armagedon/Natalie-Gulbis.jpg
Posted by: Vic at March 14, 2013 02:53 PM (53z96)
*double take*
Oh my god!!!
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 10:54 AM (GQ8sn)
My teacher did a "living under a totalitarian regime" practical exercise for two weeks where she was dictator and had a small group of the class watch and report any illicit activities of the rest of the class.
I successfully staged an Operation Valkyrie.
Good humor she had. Not the first revolutionary was I; others had, had various resistance movements in some of the years past. Got a candy bar and an "A" for the unit out of it. For that year though, I was the only one who had the bright idea to resist. Scary.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 14, 2013 10:54 AM (0q2P7)
"If you adopt my politics, you'll become more popular, Serious You Guys."
Is this sort of like, "If you agree more with the Democrats you'll be more popular, Serious You Guys"?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 14, 2013 10:54 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 10:54 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: RamonAllones at March 14, 2013 10:54 AM (3lLli)
Posted by: cicero skip at March 14, 2013 10:55 AM (3m9Uc)
(kidding)
Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 02:51 PM (lbiWb)
I don't care, but depending on what you post ace might.
Posted by: Vic at March 14, 2013 10:55 AM (53z96)
Since Ratzinger announced his retirement, the only people in my personal network who followed the new pope selection assiduously were the fervent anti-Catholics or anti-religionists.
I don't understand the intense interest from the non Catholics, since most of the world hates us anyway. I said this to BF, he got defensive. Catholics are used to the papal succession thing, one pope dies, another one is elected. It's happened since the time of St. Peter.
The only thing I can conclude is that despite all their (MFM) protestations to the contrary, the Roman Church is still relevant. Otherwise, why all the attention and...concern from commie media?
Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2013 10:55 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 10:55 AM (X81fn)
Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at March 14, 2013 10:56 AM (NmR1a)
Okay, the first two lines at the link Ace updated made me lose my professional demeanor at work.
"Yesterday, Erin Burnett gave her thoughts on the state of the Catholic Church and the new Pope. Erin Burnett is a CNN anchor who is lucky enough to not be ethnic-looking"
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 14, 2013 10:56 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: waldo truth at March 14, 2013 10:57 AM (3VhRQ)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 14, 2013 10:57 AM (8dspl)
Nicholas Kristoff: How?
Taggart: We'll kill the first born male child in every household!
Nicholas Kristoff: Hmmmmmm... Too Jewish.
Posted by: Nick Kristoff at March 14, 2013 10:57 AM (WCe8r)
Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 10:57 AM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 02:54 PM (6zgse)
Once you get it it reflashes even after you get over it. We really really do need to bring back DDT. And dig up the rotting corpse of Ruckelshausand burn it.
Posted by: Vic at March 14, 2013 10:58 AM (53z96)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 10:58 AM (6zgse)
Social justice is code for accepting, no, celebrating, stuff so nasty it would knock a vulture off a gut wagon.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at March 14, 2013 10:58 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at March 14, 2013 10:58 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: no good deed at March 14, 2013 10:58 AM (mjR67)
God (hopefully) has blessed Ms Gulbis with those beauties himself and they need to be recognized. Maybe NewPope can work it into his next homily.
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 10:58 AM (GQ8sn)
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Also Elizabeth Swann's dad, the governor, in Pirates of the Caribbean.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2013 10:59 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Regular Moron at March 14, 2013 02:52 PM (feFL6)
And in the instances where the children abused were boys being abused by female teachers, you probably also get a, "What're they complaining about? I wish that'd been MY teacher. *wink wink, nudge nudge*"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 14, 2013 10:59 AM (4df7R)
"And the Morons have staged a Boobeh Coup on the Papal thread.... it figures"
Bursting with pride, I am, while looking up to ec & Vic.
Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 10:59 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: bear what shits in the woods at March 14, 2013 10:59 AM (Pudty)
not that i have a genius solution for it besides, errr, grow the economy more
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Grow the economy more and eliminate the corruption.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2013 10:59 AM (Hx5uv)
No, it doesn't need to change the term. The left needs to quite twisting it into a pretzel.
However, I won't be holding my breath. Denial of reality is a fundamental tenet of liberalism.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 10:59 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 02:53 PM
Rachel Corrie is called a freedom fighter in the same breath as Martin Luther King. MLK however stopped buses with boycotts, didn't try to stop one with his face
What is it about the name Rachel that turns the person into a batshit leftist
Posted by: kbdabear at March 14, 2013 10:59 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 11:00 AM (X81fn)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 14, 2013 11:00 AM (9+ccr)
I wanted to reach into the computer and slap the shit out of her.
Posted by: cicero skip at March 14, 2013 02:55 PM (3m9Uc)
Yes... Moslem outreach.... we know how to do that....
Posted by: Godfrey, King of Jeruselum at March 14, 2013 11:00 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2013 11:00 AM (0/zfR)
Beats the hell out of me.
Posted by: Rachel Maddow at March 14, 2013 11:00 AM (8ZskC)
pissed, they are. The media are the front for the Cult of Politics, discussing the leader of one of their primary rivals.
Posted by: e e cummings at March 14, 2013 11:01 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 14, 2013 11:01 AM (4OvDk)
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I did not know the Republican establishment were Anglican.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2013 11:01 AM (Hx5uv)
https://sites.google.com/site/genriettasoldo/armagedon/Natalie-Gulbis.jpg
Posted by: Vic at March 14, 2013 02:53 PM (53z96)
*double take*
Oh my god!!!
Them things gonna 'splode.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at March 14, 2013 11:01 AM (kqqGm)
Social Justice = Forced Charity.
Social Justice is taking from others...by force...and giving to the 'more deserving'.
It requires the politics of Envy to justify it.
The Church should not be in the business of promoting Envy.
Posted by: wheatie at March 14, 2013 11:01 AM (2xMNt)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 14, 2013 11:01 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 14, 2013 11:01 AM (9+ccr)
But then we'll have nothing to pointlessly rant about!!!!1!!!!eleventy!!1!
Posted by: Typical In-Need-of-Psychotropic-Meds Leftard at March 14, 2013 11:01 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:02 AM (6zgse)
Best defined by exemplary contrast.
Lawful justice is what will happen when, belatedly, and for a second time, George Zimmerman is allowed release/relief from a murder charge.
If when people first heard about him on the news and they thought he was some Florida Jew like my grandma, a black mob conjured by false reporting and incited by the president (and other white assholes) had murdered him and dragged his crushed Jew corpse around on TV--that would have been social justice, a justice premised on other than the facts of any specific case.
Unmodified capital-j Justice would be if everyone who tried so fucking hard to get Zimmerman murdered and/or railroaded were themselves murdered and/or railroaded. On TV. By people who won't stand for that kind of evil shit.
But Justice is not for this world.
Posted by: oblig. is not a Catholic at March 14, 2013 11:02 AM (cePv8)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 02:41 PM (6zgse)
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You're right. Many protestant churches have given up on the Bible and instead read from the likes of Galil Gabran or the Communist Manifesto. Unfortunately, many Catholic churches do this also, but not on the scale of the so-called "free will" churches.
If I were to ever return to religion, I think I would become a Catholic. Except I would have go get over the disbelief that I had to have an intermediary (the Pope) to talk to God.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2013 11:02 AM (Nm/Lp)
Posted by: Craig Poe at March 14, 2013 11:02 AM (BVkEs)
God (hopefully) has blessed Ms Gulbis with those beauties himself and they need to be recognized.
*Buffs nails*
Posted by: God at March 14, 2013 11:03 AM (BrQrN)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at March 14, 2013 11:03 AM (VtjlW)
190 And the Morons have staged a Boobeh Coup on the Papal thread.... it figures.
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God (hopefully) has blessed Ms Gulbis with those beauties himself and they need to be recognized. Maybe NewPope can work it into his next homily.
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 02:58 PM (GQ8sn)
I appreciate all of God's creations. Just some more than others.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 14, 2013 11:03 AM (da5Wo)
@149Social justice is to justice what military music is to music .
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I heard a story once involving music and a game of 15mm Napoleonic Wargaming (using the Napoleon's Battles rules, for the curious). Both players deployed their army, and the player running the French put an odd collection of figures off on one side of the table.
"That's the military marching band," he explained.
Then, after the game started, he turned some pre-recorded music on. That was the band playing. And he had the band march up along the table edge.
Apparently round about turn two or three, every single Coalition cannon on that side of the table swiveled to face the band, and opened fire.
Posted by: junior at March 14, 2013 11:04 AM (UWFpX)
>>Here's the deal, if you don't like Catholic dogma then don't be Catholic!
But special snowflakes shouldn't have to change. The world is supposed to change around them.
Plus they don't actually want to get up early on Sunday morning.
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 14, 2013 11:04 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 14, 2013 11:04 AM (4OvDk)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:04 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: Dante at March 14, 2013 11:04 AM (NWLVJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2013 11:04 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: kbdabear at March 14, 2013 11:04 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at March 14, 2013 02:58 PM (VtjlW)
But they actualy TEACH this stuff.... and its our job to indoctrinate... I mean Teach, the youth of today!
Posted by: California Teachers Union at March 14, 2013 11:05 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:05 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 14, 2013 11:06 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Jean at March 14, 2013 11:06 AM (S4AQU)
Posted by: Dante at March 14, 2013 11:06 AM (NWLVJ)
Ugh. Not again. Yes, that is the way it works in practice.
No, that's not the way the Church means for it to work.
Here's the definition - Catholic Church style: "The virtue that inclines one to co-operate with others in order to help make the institutions of society better serve the common good. While the obligation of social justice falls upon the individual, that person cannot fulfill the obligation alone, but must work in concert with others, through organized bodies, as a member of a group whose purpose is to identify the needs of society, and, by the use of appropriate means, to meet these needs locally, regionally, nationally, and even globally. Implicit in the virtue of social justice is an awareness that the world has entered on a new phase of social existence, with potential for great good or great harm vested in those who control the media and the structures of modern society. Christians, therefore, are expected to respond to the new obligations created by the extraordinary means of promoting the common good not only of small groups but literally of all humanity."
This DOES NOT MEAN "let the government do it." The reason it does NOT mean "let the government do it" is the principle of subsidiarity which requires the problem be addressed at the lowest level capable of handing it.
This concludes today's lesson in Catholic theology.
Posted by: Typical In-Need-of-Psychotropic-Meds Leftard at March 14, 2013 11:07 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Fritz at March 14, 2013 11:07 AM (WM+rJ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 14, 2013 11:07 AM (bxiXv)
And may the Lord Bless the makers of Miss Gulbis' tops, for truly they are doing inspirational work...
... though she is a bit of a buterface. (hey I'm the Pope, I have to be honest.)
Posted by: Pope Francis at March 14, 2013 11:07 AM (rdy8w)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:08 AM (6zgse)
http://tinyurl.com/behpuas
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 11:08 AM (X81fn)
Posted by: junior at March 14, 2013 03:04 PM (UWFpX)
Loved my 15mm Austrians... but we mainly played 'Houserules Napoleonics'.... had a great tactical feel to it....
and they really hated it when I played the Brits... I'd start singing the Song from 'Sharpes Rifles' LOL
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2013 11:08 AM (lZBBB)
MSM breathlessly reports that Pope Francis used to be a French model
Posted by: kbdabear at March 14, 2013 11:09 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the poster formerly known as MrCaniac at March 14, 2013 11:09 AM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Sen John McCain (R-The Villages) at March 14, 2013 11:11 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the poster formerly known as MrCaniac at March 14, 2013 03:09 PM (Zd/NW)
Yeah... when you worship the State... it hard to understand other religions.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2013 11:11 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:11 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 11:12 AM (/b8+5)
and they really hated it when I played the Brits... I'd start singing the Song from 'Sharpes Rifles' LOL
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Hah. That's great.
Posted by: junior at March 14, 2013 11:12 AM (UWFpX)
I loves ya like a brother Soona, but that's not what the doctrine is.
Not even close.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 11:12 AM (sbV1u)
They hit us with 'social justice' and dared us to be against it. Who wants to be against justice for all? No one.
And then they used 'social justice' to gain political power. And today we're being beat over the head with all kinds of government-imposed 'social justice' that cannot be opposed.
Posted by: soothsayer at March 14, 2013 02:57 PM (8dspl)
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Whenever a little leftist shitweasel trys to corner me with this, I tell them that I think social justice is a marxist evil. Then I tell them that I'm a big fan of "equal justice". Tends to shut them up.
I personally think many of the LIV tards are confusing terms.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2013 11:12 AM (Nm/Lp)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2013 11:13 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 11:13 AM (X81fn)
It didn't work when you brought it up because the media cannot handle any word of more than 2 syllables.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 11:13 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2013 11:14 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: 757jetflier at March 14, 2013 11:14 AM (2WENO)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:15 AM (6zgse)
We actually pray and talk to God all on our own and have done so for 2 millenia!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 14, 2013 11:15 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: kbdabear at March 14, 2013 03:09 PM (mCvL4)
"Bonjorr."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 14, 2013 11:15 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 11:15 AM (X81fn)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:16 AM (6zgse)
May the Lord keep her, and bless her. Amen!
Posted by: EC at March 14, 2013 11:16 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 11:16 AM (/b8+5)
No, that's an imperfect analogy at best. That's not really what's going on. But if you believe all mankind is your brother, and should be treated that way, then it's not too far a stretch to talk to Mary and say, "Hey, can you put in a good word for me with your Son?"
I swear, I'm going to start "Theology on Tap" on the weekend threads. We'll all sit around, get drunk and talk about God.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 11:17 AM (sbV1u)
I personally think many of the LIV tards are confusing terms.
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Not really. The issue is that the terms are intentionally confused and twisted by the LIVs' would-be masters. It's kind of like how the most repressive countries in the world all tend to have either the word "People's" or "Democratic" in their names.
The problem is so wide-spread that even TV Tropes has a page entry on the country name thing.
In short, the other side is intentionally confusing things as much as possible by co-opting words and phrases to mean things that the words and phrases have no business describing. Kind of like how the word "gay" meant something completely different back in the '60s.
Posted by: junior at March 14, 2013 11:18 AM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 11:18 AM (X81fn)
People always go astray, and then God sends a wake-up call. I am not a Catholic, but I certainly agree with his stance on Sin. I am agin it.
Posted by: ALH at March 14, 2013 11:18 AM (yAPdC)
i don't think you gotta be a raging
Marxist to view Latin American-style stratification as problematic.
not that i have a genius solution for it besides, errr, grow the economy more
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The germ of the problem is the restrictions on land ownership. The entire continent is still run like a colony.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 14, 2013 11:20 AM (NJs1e)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 11:20 AM (X81fn)
Not even close.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 03:12 PM (sbV1u)
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So what is the purpose of having a Pope? Not being sarcastic.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2013 11:20 AM (Nm/Lp)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:20 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 11:21 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:21 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 11:22 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 14, 2013 11:22 AM (yLuBK)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 14, 2013 11:23 AM (uvjrz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 11:23 AM (X81fn)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:24 AM (6zgse)
@274 People always go astray, and then God sends a wake-up call.
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I think he already is. Notice how screwed up the world in general is right now with the depression, and how things seem to be getting more and more so? But I don't think enough people are paying attention.
Posted by: junior at March 14, 2013 11:24 AM (UWFpX)
One of my (very liberal, non-religious) coworkers on the phone with her mom yesterday afternoon:
"Didja hear there's a new pope? Yeah, he's anti-gay marriage."
What the hell do these people think he's going to be?? I mean, he's the friggin' pope!
Posted by: shinypie at March 14, 2013 11:24 AM (Kz85k)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 03:16 PM (/b8+5)
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If I were ever to become a Catholic, I'd want my first confession to be with the Pope. That would be the requirement for the Church to get me.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2013 11:25 AM (Nm/Lp)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 14, 2013 11:25 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 11:25 AM (X81fn)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:25 AM (6zgse)
I know you're not being sarcastic. You're always good with me.
Jesus passed his authority to Peter. He did that for a reason. For a practical reason, someone had to continue to spread the Gospel, and run the Church, and make general decisions about the faith. He did that because we're not angels, we're men. We're imperfect and we need a leader. If we were all angels, we wouldn't have needed the help.
Hell, just look around at ANY human group. Sooner or later a leader emerges, even if its a group of 4-year olds on a Kindergarten playground. If Jesus had not passed on his authority, Christianity would have ceased to exist by about 150 A.D.
If you believe that Christ did things for a reason, then you just need to ask, why did he even bother to PERSONALLY pass on his authority to "bind and loose" to Peter? What was the point?
There's a website (I forget the name) where you can trace the lineage of every single Catholic bishop who ever lived back to Peter.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 11:26 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 11:26 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 14, 2013 11:26 AM (yLuBK)
Yeah, I know. My FIL keeps pestering me to join.
But I'm not a "funny hat" kinda guy.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 11:27 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:27 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 14, 2013 11:28 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 11:29 AM (X81fn)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 11:29 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 14, 2013 11:29 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:29 AM (6zgse)
There are 3 sources of authority in the Church: Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition, and the Magisterium.
The last is the teaching authority of the Pope and all the bishops acting together.
Protestants do the same thing, they just don't call it the same thing.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 11:30 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 14, 2013 11:30 AM (bxiXv)
291I think one thing it took me a while to understand, and is a concept foreign to most Protestant, is the Authority of the Catholic church. If I am not mistaken, the Church authoritatively interprets the Scriptures and as such is sort of(?)/almost on par with the Scriptures. The view of the Church is very different.
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If I understand it correctly, it's pretty similar to the Latter-Day Saint doctrine of "continuing revelation". i.e. the Prophet of the Church, by virtue of the fact that he's the head of the Church and God's spokesperson on Earth, can receive revelation and guidance from the Heavens that provides insight into doctrine, scripture, and the latest passing social mores fads.
Posted by: junior at March 14, 2013 11:30 AM (UWFpX)
That should carry us up to about 2020.
I better start ordering the beer.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 11:30 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 11:31 AM (X81fn)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:31 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:32 AM (6zgse)
My first true love was a hard-core Catholic girl. We were at a family dinner at a restaurant one evening and the subject of having kids came up. My girlfriend (almost fiance') said she wanted ten kids....................check please!
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2013 11:32 AM (Nm/Lp)
Very Different.
In the RC Church we believe that there is no such thing as continuing Revelation. God has said all He needs to say, and all He is going to say.
It's our job to get the interpreation right. And that requires constant effort and that's the reason for the Pope and the Bishops acting in concert.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 11:32 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 14, 2013 11:33 AM (yLuBK)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:34 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 11:34 AM (/b8+5)
309My first true love was a hard-core Catholic girl. We were at a family dinner at a restaurant one evening and the subject of having kids came up. My girlfriend (almost fiance') said she wanted ten kids....................check please!
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I'm the oldest of nine.
You're missing out.
Posted by: junior at March 14, 2013 11:34 AM (UWFpX)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:36 AM (6zgse)
When did the Bible as we know it now come into existence?
About 300 AD....although it began forming in bits and pieces and fragments around 150 A.D.
Didn't you ever wonder what Christians did before there was an authoritative Bible? They didn't just hang around and wait for Barnes and Noble to get around to it.
THAT'S why there's such a thing as Sacred Tradition in the RC Church. We recognize that gap and how it was filled.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 11:37 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 14, 2013 11:38 AM (yLuBK)
It's our job to get the interpreation right. And that requires constant effort and that's the reason for the Pope and the Bishops acting in concert.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 03:32 PM (sbV1u)
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Not to be tearing down the RC church, but that sounds a bit like islam.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2013 11:38 AM (Nm/Lp)
Posted by: Shoot Me at March 14, 2013 11:39 AM (qiXMt)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:40 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 11:41 AM (X81fn)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 11:41 AM (/b8+5)
No, Islam believes that the Koran is the literal Word of God.
That's not what we believe.
We believe that the truth is in the Bible, and we may, or may not have uncovered it correctly. That's why there is a lifelong process to try to understand it. You need to read the Bible in all four senses: literally, allegorically, morally and anagogically. Even then, you still might not be getting it right.
The RC Church teaches that, yes, there ARE historical and scientific errors in the Bible.
Try telling a Muslim that about the Koran.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 11:42 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 14, 2013 11:43 AM (6zgse)
Yes, but it is highly unlikely I will be beheaded at a Lutheran Pot Luck Supper.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 11:44 AM (sbV1u)
Praying to dead Saints, (The term used loosely, anyone in heaven, even in the Catholic faith is a "saint" there are just some that have been recognized) is an act of humility. God is the only God after all. But when you are asking for stuff, (and that is what praying to saints usually entails, "Please grant me X") it is sort of acknowledgement that your pathetic desires are that of something very small in Gods view. It's more of a "well I don't want to bother the big guy with my little problem, can I get a hearing from you?". As Catholics maintain a vision of the Father in line with the OT, prone to a sort of bad temper when plagued by the complaints of the miniscule. So Saints just provide an outlet for these appeals that is, more appropriate I guess is the best way to say it. Kind of like asking your brother for help because you don't want to bother your dad, because he'd be irate that you bothered him for such a small problem.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 14, 2013 11:46 AM (0q2P7)
Remember when the liberals in the media used to call George W. Bush "uncurious"? Of course it comes out later that he was a big reader of serious books, mostly on history, and would often invite the authors in to have serious discussions, all off the record and out of the sight of cameras. Meanwhile, has anyone ever read a story about what Obama reads? The supposedly "smartest man to ever be President"? I haven't.
The vast majority of reporters are uncurious and uneducated, childish careerists. Their attitude toward the Church's 2,000 year old positions on life, marriage, the family, sexuality, contraception, the priesthood, etc., is essentially that the Church is a "bunch of meanies." Don't they know that the catechism actually has a fully-formed coherent explanation for the Church's positions? You can disagree, but you ought to actually know what it is you're disagreeing with. But none of them show any indication that they've every bothered to do the least research on actual Catholic beliefs. It's about two or three clicks away. But they can't be bothered. The Church should just blithely reject the wisdom of two millennia in exchange for the liberal banalities of a college resident advisors' bull session.
Posted by: The Regular Guy at March 14, 2013 11:47 AM (qHCyt)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 03:44 PM (sbV1u)
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Ya never know for sure, though. Those Lutherans are a pesky bunch.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2013 11:47 AM (Nm/Lp)
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Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 11:47 AM (/b8+5)
Non continuous yes, no more words ever not exactly. Catholic belief is more akin to. "Well the next time he has to talk to us, he *REALLY WILL* turn this existence around and head back home."
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 14, 2013 11:49 AM (0q2P7)
http://tinyurl.com/bxk8jev
Catholics love to welcome anyone with questions.
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 03:47 PM (/b8+5)
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Always followed by an evening of Bingo.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2013 11:53 AM (Nm/Lp)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 11:55 AM (/b8+5)
Reconciliation is the most underrated underused sacrament the church offers.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 14, 2013 11:57 AM (0q2P7)
In Islam, as Sean said the Qu'ran is the literal word of Allah. Even though it was not codified until about a century after the Prophet's death and even then its of questionable authenticity since inclusion rested on two or more people hearing the Prophet say such. Not what was written down, but heard. Going further back to the revelations of the writings to the Prophet by Jibriel, Mohammed was in an ecstatic state when he supposedly received these revelations that is wife wrote down. So we have two different ways the Qu'ran was written and codified. But again try to tell a true believing Muslim of those issues, better be ready to duck and run.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 11:57 AM (X81fn)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at March 14, 2013 11:59 AM (9eDbm)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 11:59 AM (/b8+5)
But again try to tell a true believing Muslim of those issues, better be ready to duck and run.
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Sad, but true. The louder and longer you shout (and behead people), the more fanatical and closed-minded it tends to turn you.
Posted by: junior at March 14, 2013 11:59 AM (UWFpX)
Face-to-face is a new thing.
Here's an interesting tidbit....
Under Canon Law every Church is REQUIRED to have a confessional with a grate, and MAY provide a spot for face-to-face confession.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 12:00 PM (sbV1u)
Reconciliation is the most underrated underused...
One of the big complaints about Catholicism I get is about confession. The "I don't want to have to confess to anyone but God" types. No one is making you, but if something really bothers you, that you carry with you, nothing is better than confession to another human being, whose heart is committed to forgiving you.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 14, 2013 12:00 PM (0q2P7)
Does she realize that if she receives Communion in a state of mortal sin that not only is the sacrament invalid, but she's committing yet another mortal sin?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 12:01 PM (sbV1u)
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Posted by: akula51 at March 14, 2013 12:04 PM (hNXHo)
I agree with Mike that its underused and undervalued. I would also add - misunderstood.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 12:05 PM (sbV1u)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 12:06 PM (X81fn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 12:06 PM (X81fn)
Yes.
And....the first one to be more shaped by the wreckage of the Church Post-Vatican II than what came before it.
You can bet that will color how he sees the faith.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 12:06 PM (sbV1u)
Yes.
And....the first one to be more shaped by the wreckage of the Church Post-Vatican II than what came before it.
You can bet that will color how he sees the faith.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 12:06 PM (sbV1u)
Yup.
I feel like a shiny new penny every time.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 12:07 PM (sbV1u)
Yup.
I feel like a shiny new penny every time.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 12:07 PM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 12:08 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 12:08 PM (/b8+5)
A year's supply of juice boxes for the first one to find the connection!
Posted by: Kensington at March 14, 2013 12:11 PM (znT2j)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 12:11 PM (/b8+5)
352One of my friends asked me a question the other day. Her church on the bulletin has written "a Vatican II church". She asked me if I knew what that meant and why it was there.
Do you sean or mike or anyone else know why a Catholic Church would put that on it's bulletin front?
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I'm not Catholic, so I might be off. But my recollection is that while Benedict was Pope, there was a move to allow elements from both pre- and post- Vatican II. I suspect that the notice on the bulletin indicates that the leadership in the church adheres strictly to the changes that came about as a result of Vatican II.
Posted by: junior at March 14, 2013 12:17 PM (UWFpX)
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Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 12:27 PM (/b8+5)
"He who does not pray to the Lord prays to the devil. When we don't proclaim Jesus Christ, we proclaim the worldliness of the devil, the worldliness of the demon."
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