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April 01, 2014

Obama And Kerry So Desperate For A Mideast Peace Deal They Are Floating Idea Of Releasing Convicted Spy Jonathan Pollard
— DrewM

To the shock of almost no one, the Obama/Kerry effort to broker a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians is rapidly reaching the supposed deadline with no chance of success.

But Israel balked at releasing the last batch of prisoners on Saturday. We are now approaching the end of a renewed set of talks that have steadily moved away from their stated goal. In July, the original plan was for an agreement to be reached by the end of April 2014. As time passed with little progress, much like the past 25 years, Kerry downgraded hopes from an actual deal to a "framework" deal - essentially making the latest round of talks about more talks. The original "framework" of course dates back to the Oslo accords, signed in 1993.
Even that limited ambition now appears unreachable. Israel refused to release the final 26 prisoners over the weekend, essentially in order to create a new bargaining chip. If Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas promises to extend the talks (about talks) another six months, Israeli says it will release 400 more Palestinian prisoners at some point in the future. The Palestinian team has said talks are over on April 29 if the originally agreed upon prisoner release doesn't happen.

The reason for the failure of this round of talks, like all the others, is simple... neither of the sides actually involved in them want a deal. The Palestinians are holding on to the idea that if they wait long enough the world will force Israel to cave to them on just about everything (which would also basically include the existence of Israel, so don't bet on it). The Israelis on the other hand were willing to cut a deal during the Clinton years and all they got for their willingness to deal with the Palestinians was another intifada and rocket attacks from Gaza.

So with neither side all that interesting in cutting a deal but another US administration desperate to make history and build a legacy, everything is on the table. Including the release of one of the most damaging spies in US history. But Kerry needs his own Nobel Prize and Obama wants to try and live up to the one he got just for showing up so...maybe Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard gets to walk.

No decisions have been made about Pollard's release, which sources familiar with the talks have cautioned is far from certain and would need to be approved by President Barack Obama. Pollard's possible release was being discussed as part of a broader agreement that has not been finalized.
In exchange for the release, the sources have said that Israel would have to make significant concessions to the Palestinians, which could include a settlement freeze, the release of additional prisoners beyond the current group in dispute, and an agreement to continue peace negotiations beyond the end-of-April deadline.
Pollard was convicted in 1987 of spying for Israel and is serving a life sentence in the United States. His imprisonment has been a source of tension between the U.S. and Israel.

This is nothing but the floating of a naked bribe by the US for Netanyahu to stick around and pretend a few months or more of "talks" (they don't actually ever seem to talk, Kerry just sort of floats around the region a lot) will do the trick.

I wouldn't blame Netanyahu for playing along. Any Prime Minister of Israel has to be seen as trying to be a good partner to the US so why not take something that would be immensely popular back home in the process?

Of course this would just be another example of Obama selling out to advance his own interests.

I don't care who Pollard spied for, I care about who he spied on. He literally sold America out (he didn't act out of conviction, he was paid for his treachery (pdf)). I don't care that Israel was supposed to get the information anyway. No country is entitled to America's intelligence products and if the proper policy makers withheld that information, it was not up to Pollard, anymore than it was Edward Snowden or Bradley Manning, to decide otherwise.

My only disappointment is that Snowden likely will never be brought to justice and Manning only received 35 years. Pollard was sentenced to life in prison and that's where he should rot until the day he dies.

Posted by: DrewM at 06:05 AM | Comments (130)
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1 After Manning gets his sex change(are we allowed to call it that anymore?), can he(can we call her a him until he or her has his or her penis chopped off?) claim that Bradley did the espionage not Chelsea, and eventually have her(or is it him until the operation?) record expunged? Whew! [wipes forehead]

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 01, 2014 06:11 AM (Ph479)

2 Pollard did great harm to the US. The very fact that this regime is considering releasing him is chilling.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2014 06:11 AM (32Ze2)

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 01, 2014 06:12 AM (Ph479)

4 I stand by my remarks in #4.

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 01, 2014 06:13 AM (Ph479)

5 Pollard did great harm to the US. The very fact that this regime is considering releasing him is chilling.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2014 10:11 AM (32Ze2)

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Kindred.Spirits.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 01, 2014 06:15 AM (nELVU)

6 The only release I would support is at 30,000 feet without a parachute. No other version is acceptable.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 01, 2014 06:16 AM (oDCMR)

7 Since our Great and Powerful leader is mostly interested in money and how wonderful he is, he has become a rag in the wind to anyone willing to play up to him. Unfortunately that means no-one can trust him and he is currently being told-off by all the people he wants to be loved by since he doesn't actually follow through on his promises. So like any other narcissistic abuser reaching a check in life through personal failures, he will come home and beat up the people he is supposed to protect and defend. Domestic front is going to be very fun for us.

Posted by: Kindletot at April 01, 2014 06:16 AM (2IfpB)

8 Looks like the tanks are rolling in Ukraine. http://tinyurl.com/cppeldw

Posted by: Vlad at April 01, 2014 06:17 AM (Aif/5)

9 The very fact that this regime is considering releasing him is chilling.

Chilling but not unexpected. The zipster needs a legacy. 404Care didn't turn out to be the legacy predicted by progs. Whatever it takes!

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 01, 2014 06:17 AM (Ph479)

10 This fucking administration. I need a break from this shit. Every fucking day some new bullshit from these guys.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at April 01, 2014 06:18 AM (z+Xap)

11 He should have been released years ago. But not this way.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 01, 2014 06:19 AM (BZAd3)

12 Obama has broken more laws, more often, than Pollard. Pretty fucked up huh?

Posted by: Dan at April 01, 2014 06:20 AM (COpZ4)

13 11, danger girl I agree with you 100000000%!

Posted by: Dan at April 01, 2014 06:21 AM (COpZ4)

14 Yeah, because the placating the palestinian savages is the path to world peace today, or something. These buffoons live in a fantasy world.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 01, 2014 06:21 AM (tlBbB)

15 my name says it all.

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at April 01, 2014 06:21 AM (27KAF)

16 I read that Pollard comes up for parole in 2015, that he does not want to be released in a prison swap sort of deal. I mean, if you only have one more year ... why not sit it out.

Posted by: Janetoo at April 01, 2014 06:23 AM (/TVdO)

17 Pollard needs to remain in jail. What's this I'm hearing about Ukraine? This miserable administration cannot be over soon enough for me.

Posted by: Dianna at April 01, 2014 06:23 AM (5UDb7)

18 Are you trying to tell us that Obama and John Kerry are stupid fuckers? Who could have guessed this?!

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 01, 2014 06:23 AM (bb5+k)

19 They tried this exact gambit -- Pollard's freedom as part of a Mideast deal -- during the negotiations for the Wye River accords. The heads of the major intel agencies threatened to resign en masse if Pollard was released. I wonder if that will happen again or if they're all stooges now, like most of the generals/admirals.

Posted by: jon "Cheese Boy" celli at April 01, 2014 06:23 AM (RD7QR)

20 It's just espionage. It's not something important like climate change.

Posted by: John Kerry at April 01, 2014 06:24 AM (WDCYi)

21 Kerry needs to cart around an inflatable Arafat doll.

Posted by: eman at April 01, 2014 06:24 AM (AO9UG)

22 just as an exercise who has caused more harm to the u.s. the progressive party or Pollard?

alex tea. and does BCochran deserve a gift in the mail?

Posted by: willow at April 01, 2014 06:24 AM (nqBYe)

23 This is the stupidest deal yet from these two ass-clowns. Israel doesn't need yet another "peace deal" with the terrorist assholes occupying what used to be Lebanon. They just need to exterminate them.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 01, 2014 06:25 AM (T2V/1)

24 What's this I'm hearing about Ukraine?

This miserable administration cannot be over soon enough for me.

Posted by: Dianna at April 01, 2014 10:23 AM (5UDb7)

Rickroll/April Fools. But of course I didn't fall for it. No, certainly not.

Posted by: jon "Cheese Boy" celli at April 01, 2014 06:25 AM (RD7QR)

25 I imagine the American Joo lobby will get the blame either way, if the deal goes south or goes forward. Then again, the Philistinians will kick the table over anyway. So it's all bullshit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 01, 2014 06:27 AM (CMkNk)

26 What's this I'm hearing about Ukraine?

This miserable administration cannot be over soon enough for me.

Posted by: Dianna at April 01, 2014 10:23 AM (5UDb7)

What , re the Ukraine?

Are they now making a deal on how fast they can sell out old allies?

Posted by: willow at April 01, 2014 06:27 AM (nqBYe)

27 A. Release Pollard. B. Israel bends over and gives it away C. Muzzies aren't happy continue terror attacks. D. Rinse, repeat,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 06:27 AM (HVff2)

28 23 just as an exercise who has caused more harm to the u.s. the progressive party or Pollard? alex tea. and does BCochran deserve a gift in the mail? Posted by: willow at April 01, 2014 10:24 AM (nqBYe) The Media. The media is a far greater threat than are the terrorists. And by "media" I mean one party control of mass communication/entertainment. The media got Bill Clinton Elected, and they got Barack Obama elected, and they are using their power to distort and transform society in such a manner that it will collapse. Again, a worse threat than terrorists.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 01, 2014 06:28 AM (bb5+k)

29
Breaking with past policy on Pollard appears less of a political risk for Obama because many leading Republicans now support his release, including U.S. Senator John McCain and former secretaries of state Henry Kissinger and George Schultz.

VoA

But of course...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 01, 2014 06:28 AM (kdS6q)

30 Â…ORÂ… Bibi agrees if and when the USA conducts airstrikes on Iranian nuke facilities, Or gives the IAF a shitload of bunker-busters

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 01, 2014 06:28 AM (CMkNk)

31 Treason Is Patriotic!

Posted by: John F'in' Kerry at April 01, 2014 06:29 AM (FcR7P)

32 DangerGirl, it's worse there are a portion of Americans that Like it, and Want moar, faster and harder!

Posted by: willow at April 01, 2014 06:29 AM (nqBYe)

33 The Lefties are digging through their files looking for old Palestinian talking points.

Posted by: eman at April 01, 2014 06:30 AM (AO9UG)

34 I would be willing to give them Obama and Biden if they will agree to keep them until the day they die.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 01, 2014 06:30 AM (T2V/1)

35 The Rachel Corrie Pancake Breakfast is back, baby!

Posted by: eman at April 01, 2014 06:30 AM (AO9UG)

36 OK, throw in McShitty as well.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 01, 2014 06:31 AM (T2V/1)

37 The media got Bill Clinton Elected, and they got Barack Obama elected, and they are using their power to distort and transform society in such a manner that it will collapse. Again, a worse threat than terrorists. Posted by: D-Lamp at April 01, 2014 10:28 AM (bb5+k) Cant blame the media completely for GHWB. Perot and his broken promise contributed greatly. You are correct on MSM on TFGs election and reelection.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 06:31 AM (HVff2)

38 Agitatin' is about the only industry we got.

Posted by: PLO at April 01, 2014 06:32 AM (gOoFi)

39 D-Lamp, i certainly won't argue the media has been complicit in the peoples ignorance , and have done a great disservice to their profession and Americans in general .

in other words , (They have been the biggest mfkrs helping the destruction of civilization in recent times )

Posted by: willow at April 01, 2014 06:32 AM (nqBYe)

40 I would be willing to give them Obama and Biden if they will agree to keep them until the day they die.

Posted by: Vic at April 01, 2014 10:30 AM (T2V/1)

And Pelosi, Reid, Waxman, Boxer, Feinstein, King, McCain - damn I'm getting hand cramps typing all these names, and I've still got 300 to go...

Posted by: [/i]KG at April 01, 2014 06:32 AM (p7BzH)

41 I would swear I just saw an Ace 404Care post!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 01, 2014 06:33 AM (lUXJH)

42 The Arabs don't want peace. Ever. Until we all realize this we will be playing peace talk theater until the end times. Any Arab leader that makes a deal with Israel will get the Sadat treatment.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2014 06:33 AM (32Ze2)

43 The general argument in favor of Pollard's release is that he got much more time than other's convicted of the same stuff. It was a way to punish Israel.

But...releasing him as part of a deal for more Pallie terrorists to be released is nuts.

Israel should stop releasing terrorists. There is no benefit, and a significant downside to any release.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2014 06:33 AM (QFxY5)

44 I wonder if McCain has lost His marbles totally, or ripped off his mask totally.

Posted by: willow at April 01, 2014 06:33 AM (nqBYe)

45 3 Pollard did great harm to the US. The very fact that this regime is considering releasing him is chilling.
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A reflection of/on a country that voted for Obaaama . . . .

I don't think it's the same country that Pollard spied against.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 01, 2014 06:35 AM (VjL9S)

46 ... it's worse there are a portion of Americans that Like it, and Want moar, faster and harder! Posted by: willow at April 01, 2014 10:29 AM (nqBYe) This. The media has been a bunch of worthless lackeys for time out of mind. The difference now is that people actually believe their bullshit. My grandfather and father pounded the concept of "there is no free lunch" into my head from a young age. Unfortunately, for the majority of the American public, this lesson was replaced with "Get your free shit! You're entitled, you special snowflake!"

Posted by: Damiano at April 01, 2014 06:35 AM (j0wOO)

47 Putin should demand a pardon for Snowden

Posted by: Jared Loughner at April 01, 2014 06:36 AM (e8kgV)

48 Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2014 10:33 AM (32Ze2)

The reality is that the Arab world doesn't give a rat's ass about the "Palestinians," and use them as a geopolitical tool.

If they really cared they would have allowed them to become part of the fabric of their countries, instead of rotting in refugee camps. But Pallies are considered scum among other Arabs, and they would rather keep them poor and miserable.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2014 06:36 AM (QFxY5)

http://tinyurl.com/phglltr

New Godzilla trailer.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at April 01, 2014 06:37 AM (rXcBX)

50 50 http://tinyurl.com/phglltr

New Godzilla trailer.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at April 01, 2014 10:37 AM (rXcBX)

You're a bad, mean, funny guy.

Posted by: jon "Cheese Boy" celli at April 01, 2014 06:38 AM (RD7QR)

51 When Kerry gets really desperate, he'll offer a pipeline to Israel for Christian blood to make their Matzo balls.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 01, 2014 06:38 AM (XUKZU)

52 Nope, not doing this to myself today. I'm already angry enough at my job, I don't need to pile more on top. Y'all have a wonderful day.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at April 01, 2014 06:38 AM (jNNPU)

53 Ransoming spies is a long-established, traditional practice in the operation of nations, and Pollard has already served longer than most who committed worse acts of espionage have. The real travesty here is the idea of trading something valuable for something worthless. If we're going to trade him, let's get something we actually need.

Posted by: A_Dude at April 01, 2014 06:39 AM (NM/r0)

54 The real travesty here is the idea of trading something valuable for something worthless. If we're going to trade him, let's get something we actually need.

Posted by: A_Dude at April 01, 2014 10:39 AM (NM/r0)

HIgh-speed rail!

Posted by: Joey Biden at April 01, 2014 06:39 AM (DrWcr)

55 But....but....PATRIOT!!!!11!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 01, 2014 06:39 AM (da5Wo)

56 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2014 10:36 AM (QFxY5) -------------------------------- Just look at how Jordan dealt with these people with Arafat started acting up. King Hussein was brutal with them.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2014 06:40 AM (32Ze2)

57 I've been out of the loop all morning. Please tell me that the link about Walker announcing his candidacy isn't an April Fools Day joke.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 01, 2014 06:40 AM (HjM5j)

58 If we're going to trade him, let's get something we actually need.

Posted by: A_Dude at April 01, 2014 10:39 AM (NM/r0)

Let me be clear, I need my legacy!

-Barackerson Obamaton

Posted by: [/i]KG at April 01, 2014 06:40 AM (p7BzH)

59 The real travesty here is the idea of trading something valuable for something worthless. If we're going to trade him, let's get something we actually need.

IDF babes.

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2014 06:40 AM (GQ8sn)

60 and they would rather keep them poor and miserable.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2014 10:36 AM (QFxY5)

well they are more useful to the arab countries as the major TOOL , to use against Israel and also deflect their own complicity in running shitty dictatorships.

Look we steal all the money, we beat your asses in the streets when you don't bow low enough to us ! It's Israelis fault for oppressing the palis.

Posted by: willow at April 01, 2014 06:41 AM (nqBYe)

61 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 10:31 AM (HVff2) Agreed. Had George HW not given them an opening, they wouldn't have been able to exploit it. I am still so angry with him. That stupid fucker has no idea what sort of damage he caused to the nation by breaking that pledge. THAT, was a pivot point in History.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 01, 2014 06:41 AM (bb5+k)

Steady, Mr. Drew, or you'll get an invite from Pat Buchanan to write for his mag...

True, Pollard got paid, but the catch is not that he got paid or that he spied for the Jooooooos but that taking it too easy on Pollard would encourage "false flag" recruiting (the Iranians, Russkies, etc, would say "Oh, it's for Israel, it's cool."

Frederick Forsyth had a great "false flag" sub-plot in The Fourth Protocol about a cold warrior in the MoD who passed secrets to the Sovs thinking he was keeping South Africa in the loop. (Yes, a lot of the anti-Apartheid types were nakedly Communist and pro-Soviet.)

Posted by: I have MS-NBC for that at April 01, 2014 06:42 AM (sq9q3)

63 Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2014 10:40 AM (32Ze2)

Black September.

Hussein did not fuck around.

His son is very different.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2014 06:42 AM (QFxY5)

64
New Godzilla trailer.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade

You mean this one?

http://youtu.be/oTItRfN-LO8?t=18s

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 01, 2014 06:42 AM (kdS6q)

65 The greatest spy the United States has ever suffered is Barack Obama and possibly Bill Clinton. I'll be bothered by breaches of US security when the American people punish a party that undermines US security as its initial bargaining position.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 01, 2014 06:43 AM (TE35l)

66 43 The Arabs don't want peace. Ever.
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The Arab leaders don't give a shit about the Palis. At all. In fact, most of them hate them.

But, they are useful. They keep their population--and the world's--eyes off of what they're doing at home.

For every dead Pali killed by a Jew--a hundred days of news.
For every thousand Arabs killed by Arabs, be it in prisons, by torture, in the endless tribal, sect and civil wars--nothing.
For every thousand Christians killed by moslums--nothing.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 01, 2014 06:43 AM (VjL9S)

67 wasn't there a 'road' term,
re: palis and jordan?

Posted by: willow at April 01, 2014 06:43 AM (nqBYe)

68 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 01, 2014 10:40 AM (HjM5j)

It's from Beth, so it must be true.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2014 06:44 AM (QFxY5)

69 64 CBD, I like the riposte to Black September. Israel out terr'd the terrs.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 01, 2014 06:44 AM (TE35l)

Ace just released the design for his new t-shirts/mugs.

Should be great, I can't wait!

http://tinyurl.com/nsweo2y

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2014 06:44 AM (TOk1P)

71 38 The media got Bill Clinton Elected, and they got Barack Obama elected, and they are using their power to distort and transform society in such a manner that it will collapse. Of all the blatant, egregious, willful lying that the MFM has done, I knew it was all over when they blamed Sarah Palin for the Giffords shooting. So obviously, blatantly false. Yet they said it. And people believed it. That was one of the worst days for me out of the whole period of the Commie takeover. I'm not even a Palin fan. It had nothing to do with any Palin-love. But that was the instant that I knew our MFM was well and truly finished as anything other than Regime Propaganda. We grew up believing this stuff could never happen here. And then it did.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 01, 2014 06:46 AM (7ObY1)

Don't make us post another selfie of some fugly broad from Foggy Bottom again, cause we will........

Posted by: BHO and JFnK at April 01, 2014 06:46 AM (DErq5)

73 Posted by: sven10077 at April 01, 2014 10:44 AM (TE35l)

I am referring to the war conducted by Jordan against the PLO in September 1970(?).
Hussein kicked the shit out of them, and the Black September terrorist group was named after it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2014 06:46 AM (QFxY5)

74 The real travesty here is the idea of trading something valuable for something worthless. If we're going to trade him, let's get something we actually need. IDF babes. Posted by: EC Seconded! Can we haz a motion?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 01, 2014 06:47 AM (lUXJH)

75 i believe it's april fools day, so i will not be clicking on links, jic.

especially maddogs.

Posted by: willow at April 01, 2014 06:47 AM (nqBYe)

76 72 Citizen X, The media takes for granted things like Pinochet can't happen here as well. I'm wondering why we allow one hand clapping as a movement sometimes.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 01, 2014 06:48 AM (TE35l)

77 IDF babes.
Posted by: EC

Seconded! Can we haz a motion?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 01, 2014 10:47 AM (lUXJH)

It moved! I mean, so moved!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 01, 2014 06:48 AM (DrWcr)

78 Any deal made with Abbas will be too expensive for Israel and won't lead to peace. Israel can't afford peace right now. Pollard has already served decades in prison. He's paid heavily for what he did. So has his wife.

Posted by: Gusto Smooth at April 01, 2014 06:48 AM (otQV8)

79 IDF babe.

http://tinyurl.com/yfhb7qf

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2014 06:49 AM (QFxY5)

80
Speaking of hot Lebanese women.....

http://tinyurl.com/lgxmpb5

Enjoy.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 01, 2014 06:50 AM (nELVU)

81 Seconded! Can we haz a motion? Posted by: rickb223 at April 01, 2014 10:47 AM (lUXJH) Call to Order! The Marginally Honorable Chairman presiding. We have a motion and a second on trading the spy for IDF Hotties. I'm skipping debate and the motion is now up for vote. How say ye?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 01, 2014 06:50 AM (da5Wo)

82 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2014 10:49 AM (QFxY5)

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Very.Nice.Optics.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 01, 2014 06:51 AM (nELVU)

83 No such thing as "peace" in the Middle East. Either the Jews annihilate the towel head/fig eating fuzzy wuzzy savages or the camel jockey, child raping, women circumcising savages annihilate the Jews. Once that happens then there will be "peace". Kinda hoping the Jews kick ass myself. Elohim gadol!

Posted by: IrishEd at April 01, 2014 06:51 AM (D0NZx)

84 74 CBD, Quite, of course that was simply Hussein reminding the non-attributable assets to not get uppity. The Pals are more properly called the Fuckeds and it would be easy to sympathize for them were they not baby butchers. Hussein's smackdow begat the fucks who killed the Olympics of my Birth Year and that begat Operation Hand of God which rocked. Fuck Islam

Posted by: sven10077 at April 01, 2014 06:51 AM (TE35l)

80 -

Not what I was expecting at all.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2014 06:51 AM (TOk1P)

86 bunk!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2014 06:52 AM (32Ze2)

87 Some days I have to search for encouraging news! Will this regime ever end? PS-on a side note has anyone read a recent comments section over at Hot Air? Are they attracting only Schizophrenics lately? (No offense to Schizophrenics). They is almost nothing coherent.

Posted by: AnnaS at April 01, 2014 06:53 AM (Npv5I)

88 ...Pollard has already served decades in prison. He's paid heavily for what he did. So has his wife. Posted by: Gusto Smooth at April 01, 2014 10:48 AM Pollard still needs to pay the full measure.

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 01, 2014 06:53 AM (9HP5k)

89 82 Seconded! Can we haz a motion?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 01, 2014 10:47 AM (lUXJH)

Call to Order!

The Marginally Honorable Chairman presiding.

We have a motion and a second on trading the spy for IDF Hotties.

I'm skipping debate and the motion is now up for vote.

How say ye?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 01, 2014 10:50 AM (da5Wo)

Aye!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 01, 2014 06:55 AM (DrWcr)

90 89 Alton Jackson, So do a lot of traitors...or is the Full Measure being elected Enator and hanging your hat at Foggy Bottom since the Constitution is a dead letter?

Posted by: sven10077 at April 01, 2014 06:55 AM (TE35l)

91 How say ye?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 01, 2014 10:50 AM (da5Wo)

This is an April Fool's joke, right?

We vote for IDF babes.

And we get Code Pink.

Posted by: [/i]KG at April 01, 2014 06:56 AM (p7BzH)

92 As has been pointed out, it's April Fool's so you can plug Rachel Papo and s ;">erialno3817131 into your search engine of choice and get IDF babes.

Posted by: I have MS-NBC for that at April 01, 2014 06:57 AM (sq9q3)

93 52 When Kerry gets really desperate, he'll offer a pipeline to Israel for Christian blood to make their Matzo balls. Posted by: WalrusRex at April 01, 2014 10:38 AM (XUKZU) Of all the anti-Semitic canards this always made the least sense. Heathens are allowed to eat blood Jews are absolutely explicitly forbidden to eat blood. So why people would make up such nonsense that Jews use Christian blood for matzo is just bizarre. Besides one look at matzo and you can tell it's just water and flour

Posted by: Avi at April 01, 2014 06:58 AM (d7KJD)

94 We have a motion and a second on trading the spy for IDF Hotties. I'm skipping debate and the motion is now up for vote. How say ye? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 01, 2014 10:50 AM (da5Wo) Mr. Chairman, I rise this morning to introduce an amendment to the current motion. I would like the following language to be added at the end of paragraph one: That for each spy exchanged, one IDF hottie shall be placed at the home of each Moron present here today. I encourage my fellow Morons to vote yes on this measure and I yield the floor.

Posted by: Mainah at April 01, 2014 06:58 AM (659DL)

95 92 KG, You want IDF chicks, you'd settle for Hoosegow Hunnies, you get Helen Thomas cheesecake.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 01, 2014 06:58 AM (TE35l)

96
Israel - Palestinian Peace. Ha.

The Palies remind me of the alien in Independence Day....what do we want? we want you to die.

There can be no peace there until Israel kicks them all across the river.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 01, 2014 06:59 AM (0Kobm)

97 Mr. Chairman, I rise this morning to introduce an amendment to the current motion. I would like the following language to be added at the end of paragraph one: That for each spy exchanged, one IDF hottie shall be placed at the home of each Moron present here today.

I encourage my fellow Morons to vote yes on this measure and I yield the floor.

Posted by: Mainah at April 01, 2014 10:58 AM (659DL)

*whips Moron committee into action*

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2014 06:59 AM (GQ8sn)

98 94 52 When Kerry gets really desperate, he'll offer a pipeline to Israel for Christian blood to make their Matzo balls.
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 01, 2014 10:38 AM (XUKZU)

Of all the anti-Semitic canards this always made the least sense.

Heathens are allowed to eat blood Jews are absolutely explicitly forbidden to eat blood. So why people would make up such nonsense that Jews use Christian blood for matzo is just bizarre. Besides one look at matzo and you can tell it's just water and flour

Posted by: Avi at April 01, 2014 10:58 AM (d7KJD)

I thought they used the blood of "Palestinian" children. It's pure snow white, so it blends right in to the matzo.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 01, 2014 06:59 AM (DrWcr)

99 "I encourage my fellow Morons to vote yes on this measure and I yield the floor. " Aye.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 01, 2014 06:59 AM (gOoFi)

100 Ewok is up and rushing the back entrance to the shield generator.

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2014 07:00 AM (GQ8sn)

101 >>AnnaS I used to comment there a lot. Haven't posted much in a while.

Posted by: Aviator at April 01, 2014 07:01 AM (jSUU1)

102 If Pollard looked at this (presuming that they let him read the news), he should see that this does not advance Israel's interest and security (BIRM).

I would think better of him if he told Israel to tell the U.S. to take the offer and go pound sand. But he still gets paroled in a box.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at April 01, 2014 07:01 AM (DQZLr)

103 Hmmmm, that sounds a little dirty.

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2014 07:01 AM (GQ8sn)

104 We have an amendment offered and seconded. Vote on the amendment?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 01, 2014 07:01 AM (da5Wo)

105 101 Ewok is up and rushing the back entrance to the shield generator...in my ass

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2014 11:00 AM (GQ8sn)

FTFY

Posted by: Insomniac at April 01, 2014 07:01 AM (DrWcr)

106 We have a motion and a second on trading the spy for IDF Hotties. I'm skipping debate and the motion is now up for vote. How say ye? Aye. And I'd stuff some "ballot boxes". IYKWIMAIKTYD.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 01, 2014 07:02 AM (lUXJH)

107 I move to amend the amendment to state that in the event of the release of Jonathan Pollard, one IDF hottie shall be placed at the home of each Moron present here today.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 01, 2014 07:03 AM (DrWcr)

108 We have a motion and a second on trading the spy for IDF Hotties.

I'm skipping debate and the motion is now up for vote.

How say ye?

Aye.

And I'd stuff some "ballot boxes".
IYKWIMAIKTYD.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 01, 2014 11:02 AM (lUXJH)

I offer a late amendment to the amendment that allows the IDF babe to arrive out of uniform but fully armed.

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2014 07:04 AM (GQ8sn)

109 Great. Cue the fucking grievance mobs... Boy Scouts of America fire first openly-gay troop leader since voting to allow homosexual youth into their ranks this year Geoff McGrath, a 49-year-old Eagle Scout, was asked to start a new troop by a reverend at his inclusive Methodist church in Seattle last year and says he didn't conceal his sexual orientation from scouts, their parents or organization officials. While the BSA's recent decision allows openly-gay youth to join their ranks, it still bars homosexual men from being leaders. So when the BSA's national headquarters found out about McGraths sexual-orientation earlier this week in the midst of a report by NBC News, his position as a the leader of Troop 98 was 'revoked'. BSA Spokesman Deron Smith says it was only until reporters contacted the organization about McGrath for a story that they found out he was gay. 'Our policy is that we do not ask people about their sexual orientation, and itÂ’s not an issue until they deliberately inject it into Scouting in an inappropriate fashion,' Smith said in an email to NBC. ------ I think I see your damn problem... 'If you donÂ’t participate, you're not part of the conversation,' McGrath, a software engineer, said. 'Yelling from the outside is not conversing. So we're on the inside doing good work. Talking about the gay and lesbian issue is not the biggest part of what we doÂ—it's the smallest part.' What merit badge is earned by talking about LGBTBBQ?

Posted by: RWC - hates April 1st. at April 01, 2014 07:05 AM (fWAjv)

110 I move to amend the amendment to state that in the event of the release of Jonathan Pollard, one IDF hottie shall be placed at the home of each Moron present here today. Posted by: Insomniac at April 01, 2014 11:03 AM (DrWcr) I offer a late amendment to the amendment that allows the IDF babe to arrive out of uniform but fully armed. Posted by: EC at April 01, 2014 11:04 AM (GQ8sn) Mr. Chairman, Insomniac's and EC's language shall be included immediately. I thank them for including this clarifying language which greatly improves the original amendment.

Posted by: Mainah at April 01, 2014 07:09 AM (659DL)

111 In my opinion, and I know that many here won't agree with it, but I believe there is a difference between spying for a country and spying against a country. The relationship between the U.S. and Israel has always been much more complicated than most people realize, and with the U.S. wielding a heavy hand. Not so much friends as schoolmates, one of whom is friendly, but constantly reminding the other that they are capable of taking the others lunch money whenever they want to. For our most strident enemies, the U.S. has found ways of trading spies for 'things', but not in this case. By comparison, Pollard's treatment has been anything but just. Of course the U.S. has spied on Israel, hell, they spy on us. But with Israel, the U.S. really doesn't have to work that hard because Israel couldn't exist without U.S. standing behind her. And the U.S. cynically plays this hand for all it's worth knowing exactly what cards Israel has to play. That's all I'll say about it.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 01, 2014 07:10 AM (BZAd3)

112 And I'd stuff some "ballot boxes". IYKWIMAIKTYD.

Posted by: Phrasing is not really a "thing" anymore at April 01, 2014 07:11 AM (gOoFi)

113 Pollard, Snowden, Manning et.al need to ride the lightning.

No ifs, and or buts.

   And the perverted gay assholes need to stfu and crawl back under their rotted logs with the rest of the slime.

   Completely done with gay ANYTHING in ANY form, thank you so much you loudmouth obnoxious pricks.

    No apology will be forthcoming in any manner for the above.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 01, 2014 07:12 AM (SAMxH)

114 17 I read that Pollard comes up for parole in 2015, that he does not want to be released in a prison swap sort of deal. I mean, if you only have one more year ... why not sit it out. Posted by: Janetoo at April 01, 2014 10:23 AM (/TVdO) They usually release them into a half way house 6 months - 1 year before the release date. The only thing negotiable I see is that he be instead released to Israel.

Posted by: Anti-Commie Pug at April 01, 2014 07:13 AM (vFh9Q)

115 Pollard, Snowden, Manning et.al need to ride the lightning. Posted by: irongrampa at April 01, 2014 11:12 AM (SAMxH) You forgot the Walker family clan of traitors and FBI Agent Robert Hanssen.

Posted by: ExSnipe at April 01, 2014 07:20 AM (LKJt3)

116

Free Jonathan Pollard from his racist oppressors! Clemency, now!

Posted by: Mumia who has no conflict of interest whatsoever at April 01, 2014 07:20 AM (Xv7f/)

117

Yo, Jonathan! Need a media statement to use when your released? I got one.

Guilty as sin ... free as a bird...

(Barry ... er ... Barack ... er ... The President ... and I laughed our asses off at that one.)

Posted by: Bill Ayers at April 01, 2014 07:28 AM (Xv7f/)

118 Any hope for progress toward Middle East peace died in the Crimea

Posted by: Chester Robert Huntley at April 01, 2014 07:33 AM (e8kgV)

119 I vote ney on the IDF hotties, i served in the idf and have had enough of 18 yr old israeli girls and their attitudes!

Posted by: chair force dave at April 01, 2014 07:58 AM (YjZU2)

120 Obama and Kerry are just passing the global test. For decades, Western diplomats have been arguing: 1. The Israeli - Palestine feud has to be settled with talk. 2. The talks are foundering on a lack of concessions. 3. The Palestinians will be killed by their own people if they make concessions. 4. Therefore the concessions have to come from Israel. 5. Israel won't make concessions because America supports a hard line. 6. America has to walk away from Israel. Then Israel will have to make concessions. Then there will be talks. I think it better if both American political parties just admit that the Israel - Palestinian conflict will be settled by force, and America opposes genocide and ethnic cleansing, which means we'd rather Israel win. And we did that part of the world a favor with the Camp David accords, but really, barring genocidal war and support for terrorism, we can let them fight it out for another 200 years. And stop wasting time on diplomacy.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 01, 2014 08:09 AM (5xmd7)

121
But Pallies are considered scum among other Arabs,

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2014 10:36 AM (QFxY5)

And the Palis do all they can to earn that characterization.

Case in point:

Black September = Jordan retaliates harshly against Pali ingrates who try to take over the country of their hosts

Pali ingrates name their most radical terrorist group Black September, not to attack Jordan, but to attack Israel, who had nothing to do with Black September.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 01, 2014 08:11 AM (TIIx5)

122 Remember when all they talked about were the fucking keys? I have a whole bunch of keys to places where I once lived. So fucking what?

Posted by: Anti-Commie Pug at April 01, 2014 08:33 AM (vFh9Q)

123 If Israel was an ally they wouldn't even want Pollard.

Posted by: torabora at April 01, 2014 08:51 AM (1jp4v)

124 On Pollard, he did it, but there are two partially mitigating circumstances:

-He didn't want to take money, but his Israeli handlers basically cajoled him with it, assuming they'd have more control over him if they did.

-The most damaging claims against Pollard, that he exposed intel that lead to the deaths of US agents, are probably false: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3223047,00.html

Posted by: looking closely at April 01, 2014 08:54 AM (6Q9g2)

125 Hah! That's the only thing I can say about this clusterfuck.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at April 01, 2014 09:04 AM (PN2gp)

126
Pollard aside, Kerry and Obama want to broker a peace treaty between the Palestinians and the Israelis, but the Palestinians don't have to acknowledge Israel's right to exist - or even the fact of its existence.

So, Obama and Kerry trying to broker a treaty with a party that doesn't acknowledge the existence of the other party to the treaty.

Tell me: what is wrong with this picture?

Posted by: Brown Line at April 01, 2014 09:05 AM (VrNoa)

127 what is wrong with this picture? Everything.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 01, 2014 09:28 AM (vd7A8)

128 124 If Israel was an ally they wouldn't even want Pollard. Posted by: torabora at April 01, 2014 12:51 PM (1jp4v) He is a whiney little asshole, so he's got that going for him... 125 On Pollard, he did it, but there are two partially mitigating circumstances: -He didn't want to take money, but his Israeli handlers basically cajoled him with it, assuming they'd have more control over him if they did. -The most damaging claims against Pollard, that he exposed intel that lead to the deaths of US agents, are probably false: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3223047,00.html Posted by: looking closely at April 01, 2014 12:54 PM (6Q9g2) Everybody knows how foreign agents compromise you. I don't see how it is mitigation and I don't think he was cajoled.

Posted by: Anti-Commie Pug at April 01, 2014 09:48 AM (vFh9Q)

129 But, see, our Enlightened Leader *KNOWS* there is no such thing as treason. (At least, not when it's against such a dirty, nasty, filthy, racist, capitalist country as the US of A. America is, in simplistic Islamic terms, the land of "kufr", and deserves whatever punishments man, nature, or Allah can dish out.) So, you see, because he helped diminish the USA, Pollard DESERVES to be freed. (Kind of like the Lockerbie mastermind, Megrahi, DESERVED to go home to a hero's welcome in Libya.)

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at April 01, 2014 12:03 PM (rhC5H)

130 Ref: #49 CharlieBrown'sDildo April 01, 2014 10:36 AM "...The reality is that the Arab world doesn't give a rat's ass about the "Palestinians," and use them as a geopolitical tool. If they really cared they would have allowed them to become part of the fabric of their countries, instead of rotting in refugee camps. But Pallies are considered scum among other Arabs, and they would rather keep them poor and miserable." = = = = = I read the same thing -YEARS ago- on a blog owned by some Arab immigrant to America, where he was trying to educate us on the realities of the Middle East. He said something to the effect that Palestinians are viewed by others in the M.E. in more or less the same way Gypsies are viewed by Europeans: as thieves, beggars, & lazy scoundrels you NEVER want to turn your back on.

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at April 01, 2014 12:20 PM (rhC5H)

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