December 18, 2013

Obama and White House "Slobberknocked" To Learn How Tough Their Hand-Picked-to-Write-a-Cover-Up NSA Review Panel Actually On Them
— Ace

Very interesting.

The most important finding (per Allah) is that the warrantless hoarding of everyone's cellphone metadata has been deemed, by the panel that was supposed to serve as a fig-leaf fake, as "not essential."

In fact, they seem to question whether the NSA's claims that such data actually foiled any terrorists attacks, anywhere, ever, is correct. The NSA claims it's happened a few times, but I have never seen any concrete evidence of that. The panel says that most such data is helpful in a negative manner, that is, to establish a negative, that a known terrorist suspect is not in contact with co-conspirators in the US, thus alleviating worries among NSA officials, and, one imagines, allowing them to better assign resources.

Now, that's not nothing at all, but that is a far, far cry from "prevented terrorist attacks." If it requires spying on everyone to establish a few negative propositions, then this program requires far, far too much.

Read the whole thing. I'm tired and sick and done. Open thread!

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1 don't gather me bro

Posted by: oc joe at December 18, 2013 04:15 PM (hqVUe)

2 I'm going to look in my hot neighbor's bedroom window, just to make sure she isn't up to no good in there.  Obama says that's okay.

Posted by: pep at December 18, 2013 04:16 PM (6TB1Z)

3 Annddd... the Meta Data is only ONE program that is in effect... Tip of the Iceberg on everything they are retaining...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 04:16 PM (lZBBB)

4 I apologize as I just posted this on the last thread, but we lost a real man of God and culture warrior today. Really O/T but really sad news. Pastor Ken Hutcherson has passed away. This is a huge loss. He was a stalwart man of faith and a rock ribbed conservative, an amazing and gifted speaker, former NFL player, father, husband and all around good guy. He will be sadly missed. Lefties, I am sure, think Christmas has come early for them. I can only imagine the hate filled screeds that will be popping up all over message boards tonight. Incidentally, he performed Rush and Katherine Limbaugh's wedding and was a good friend of Glen Beck. So sad.

Posted by: runningrn at December 18, 2013 04:17 PM (PLOz8)

5 Probably the only thing that might save some shred opf the founding would be the GOP civil servants using the whistleblower shields to destroy the veneer of non partisan ethics remaining in a Gotterdammerung bonfire of the vanities....


Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 04:17 PM (9jfyN)

6 4 runningrn at December 18, 2013 08:17 PM (PLOz

sorry for his flock's loss but he is with God....

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 04:18 PM (9jfyN)

7 Hey, someone has to supply jobs for all of those "- studies" majors.

Posted by: museisluse at December 18, 2013 04:18 PM (HsXTx)

8 Is that Headline missing a word?

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 04:19 PM (aFTxd)

9 I think this Duck story is gonna have legs.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:20 PM (ZPrif)

10 Incidentally, he performed Rush and Katherine Limbaugh's wedding and was a good friend of Glen Beck. So sad. Posted by: runningrn at December 18, 2013 08:17 PM (PLOz This is sad to hear. I heard him on Rush's show a number of times. Seemed like such a happy guy. May he RIP.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 04:20 PM (bCEmE)

11 We don't have proof that you're a terrorist! I'd think you'd be thanking me...

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 18, 2013 04:21 PM (FcR7P)

12 Crap 'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson on Indefinite Hiatus Following Anti-Gay Remarks http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/duck-dynastys-phil-robertson-indefinite-666808

Posted by: spypeach at December 18, 2013 04:23 PM (10H0T)

13 ObamaCare is severely damaging the Dem brand with LIVs, independents, and conservatives, but the NSA snooping scandal is damaging Obama's base support.

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2013 04:24 PM (HjPtV)

14 8 Is that Headline missing a word? Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 08:19 PM (aFTxd) Obama and White House "Slobberknocked" To Learn How Tough Their Hand-Picked-to-Write-a-Cover-Up NSA Review Panel Actually Is On Them That seem better?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 04:24 PM (bCEmE)

15 Obama's not being damaged one bit by the folks that matter.

The GOP.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:25 PM (LSDdO)

16 looks like the fake santa,gay hating, racist memes will take us through the holiday's. when everything is still going to hell in a handbasket then, just what will they cook up to tear us all apart then?

Posted by: oc joe at December 18, 2013 04:25 PM (hqVUe)

17 'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson on Indefinite Hiatus Following Anti-Gay Remarks http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/duck-dynastys-phil-robertson-indefinite-666808 Posted by: spypeach at December 18, 2013 08:23 PM (10H0T) God fuckin' forbid anyone that has a different opinion be allowed to voice it!! I hate these people.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 04:25 PM (bCEmE)

18 "True" is such an unrealistic bar for any gummint program to be held to, dontcha know...

Posted by: M. Murcek at December 18, 2013 04:26 PM (GJUgF)

19
Rand Paul ha Wolf Blitzer all a-flutter when Rand said James Clapper was as guilty as Snowden.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 04:26 PM (Y4TdB)

20 I really don't want to think about what's being slobbered on in the WH.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at December 18, 2013 04:26 PM (hO8IJ)

21 I would imagine it comes as kind of a relief for Pastor Ken.

That's one thing Obama's done for me; made me fear death a bit less.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:26 PM (LSDdO)

22 I hate these people. Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2013 08:25 PM (bCEmE) me too.

Posted by: spypeach at December 18, 2013 04:26 PM (10H0T)

23 Is that Headline missing a word? Oops! So it is... Stuttering-Clusterfuck-of-a-Miserable-Failure Obama and White House "Slobberknocked" To Learn How Tough Their Hand-Picked-to-Write-a-Cover-Up NSA Review Panel Actually On Them

Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2013 04:26 PM (FcR7P)

24 That seem better? Depends on your definition of 'is'.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 18, 2013 04:27 PM (aFTxd)

25 "Slobberknocked" Come to Mama!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 18, 2013 04:27 PM (ebmsN)

26 They must all be senile on that panel.

Posted by: Forner IG Gerald Walpin at December 18, 2013 04:27 PM (LDsJ6)

27 Anti gay remarks.What bullshit.

Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2013 04:28 PM (zqvg6)

28 I'm trying to watch Christmas specials on the tv, but so far all I get is rap. Can't find It's a wonderful life anywhere

Posted by: spypeach at December 18, 2013 04:28 PM (10H0T)

29 Fart-knockers plug up, not cover up.

hehehhehehe

Posted by: Beavis at December 18, 2013 04:28 PM (R6JT1)

30 I foresee a secret executive order in our future.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at December 18, 2013 04:29 PM (kUgpq)

31 Neat how GLAAD spokesman is an expert on what "true" Christians believe. ---- On Wednesday, GLAAD called Robertson’s statements “vile” and “littered with outdated stereotypes.” “Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil’s lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe,” said GLAAD spokesperson Wilson Cruz. “He clearly knows nothing about gay people or the majority of Louisianans — and Americans — who support legal recognition for loving and committed gay and lesbian couples. “Phil’s decision to push vile and extreme stereotypes is a stain on A&E and his sponsors who now need to reexamine their ties to someone with such public disdain for LGBT people and families.”

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:29 PM (ZPrif)

32 Depends on your definition of 'is'.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 18, 2013 08:27 PM (aFTxd)

I think that that moment (when Clinton parsed the word Is) is when I realized we were lost without hope and this Nation was on the slippery slope to demagoguery and oligarchy.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:29 PM (LSDdO)

33 Robertsons only "claim" to be Christians according to GLAAD.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:30 PM (ZPrif)

34 Wait just one second. Do you mean to tell me that a man who is open and forthright about his religion gave an opinion that is opposite that of the lib media? I'm stunned by that. Stunned.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 04:30 PM (GEICT)

35 Eff the MSM eff hollywood the entertainment industry as a whole. Let 2 percent support their sorry asses. Time to fight back. Quit buying their shit and bankrupt their asses.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2013 04:30 PM (Nji1V)

36 'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson on Indefinite Hiatus Following Anti-Gay Remarks Will I be supporting A&E? Nope.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 04:31 PM (ebmsN)

37 From Variety --- Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson has been fired from the reality program following his controversial remarks in GQ magazine regarding homosexuality. A+E Networks, parent company of A&E, has released the following statement to Variety: “We are extremely disappointed to have read Phil Robertson’s comments in GQ, which are based on his own personal beliefs and are not reflected in the series Duck Dynasty. His personal views in no way reflect those of A+E Networks, who have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community.”

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:32 PM (ZPrif)

38 Saying you find the act of gay sex disgusting and illogical is a fire able offense now? Fire every straight man on TV now.

Posted by: Mr Pink at December 18, 2013 04:32 PM (c8owl)

39 Re. the ObamaGayCare post: So did anyone else using Firefox to hit the comments at Reason get a phoney "update your Flashplayer add-on" full-page pop-up interception that's without a doubt malware? And does anyone else ever get a Flashplayer malware advert on Ace's homepage sidebar on the top left-hand side of the page? (It's not always there; for example, it was a WoW advert just now.)

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 18, 2013 04:32 PM (YQUIz)

40 >>>“Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil’s lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe,” said GLAAD spokesperson Wilson Cruz. “He clearly knows nothing about gay people or the majority of Louisianans — and Americans — who support legal recognition for loving and committed gay and lesbian couples.<<<



Even the Pope is ok with it. Trust us!!!!eleventy!!

Posted by: MFM at December 18, 2013 04:33 PM (LDsJ6)

41 Will I be supporting A&E? Nope. Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 08:31 PM (ebmsN) I'm torn on that. If you stop watching their show, then what? It gets cancelled and they'll think it's because of Phil. I should head to Walmart and buy some Duck Dynasty stuff though.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 04:33 PM (bCEmE)

42 A+E is going to have to be taught a bitter lesson and I am not even a fan of Derp Dynasty.

I enjoy Longmire, I will not be buying this season.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 18, 2013 04:33 PM (9jfyN)

43 “Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil’s lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe,” What do Christians know about Christianity?

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 04:33 PM (MMC8r)

44 Heh.  That Hot Air take is funny.  "Obama can't blah blah blah..."

This guy has a track record several astronomical units long of examples where he has ignored what he said, did, or signed five minutes ago.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2013 04:33 PM (ltdV/)

45

These Southern Christians will never learn

 

Posted by: Anitta Bryant 1st casualty of political correctness at December 18, 2013 04:33 PM (N3Al8)

46 Quit buying the shit that those who sponsor them produce.

It's tough but not impossible and it makes for a less cluttered life.

Plus soon all those "things" will have less value.

Buy from those who believe as you do, buy only that which actually is necessary for life or improves your life.

Quit partaking of their Witches Dance on the bones of our country and stop financing their decadent and dangerous lifestyles.

Start spending money in preparation for the time (and it will come) when their Castles built on sand collapse.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:34 PM (LSDdO)

47 I love the Robertson's but this kerfluffle is exactly what Obama ordered.

Posted by: simplemind at December 18, 2013 04:34 PM (hTeQK)

48 From NYPost --- Robertson released his own statement responding to the controversy. “I myself am a product of the 60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior,” he said. “My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. “However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.” “Duck Dynasty” has been a ratings phenomenon for A&E, drawing 11.8 million viewers to its fourth season premiere last August, the most-watched nonfiction series telecast in cable history.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:34 PM (ZPrif)

49 so while they say the Panels recommendations aren't binding , what will It do?
 considering ... U.S. official noted that the NSAÂ’s once-solid support inside the White House and on Capitol Hill has waned since the panel was created in August
------

Yet this administration seemed to be fully on board KNOWINGLY of data collection on Americans until Snowden which purportedly has Everything (meaning everything) according to the Pentagon.

nsa- 'you don't call anymore...'
Obama,' don't you see they are looking at me'

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2013 04:34 PM (nqBYe)

50 The article lies right off the bat. The news comes after Robertson compared homosexuality to bestiality in an interview with the magazine. No he didn't. He said they're both sins. That's not comparing or relating the two. Rape is wrong. Lying is wrong. OMG I just compared rape with lying!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 04:34 PM (GEICT)

51 and yet no one in the media ever asks how the musllims feel. weird, huh?

Posted by: oc joe at December 18, 2013 04:34 PM (hqVUe)

52 Hey , I'll admit it , I have slobbered on knockers .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 18, 2013 04:35 PM (XWw96)

53 Shorter A+E "parent":  Actually, we do prefer anus to vagina. And so, now, must the rest of you.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2013 04:35 PM (xq1UY)

54 That stupid show I Never have watched and never will gets the best ratings on that network. Why don't they all threaten to leave if he isn't reinstated? Fuck em. So they walk and move to USA let em lose millions.

Posted by: Mr Pink at December 18, 2013 04:35 PM (c8owl)

55 The Robertson family will absolutely NOT do another show  without Phil. I guaren fuckin T....

Posted by: Si Robertson at December 18, 2013 04:35 PM (N3Al8)

56 Couldn't the Robertson's just buy A & E? They gotta be worth a gajillion dollars by now.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 04:35 PM (bCEmE)

57 "PhilÂ’s lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe" What lies? That butt sex is gross? Butt sex is gross. I don't care if it's beween a man and a woman or two men. It's gross. And it spreads diseases. And it's gross. Ban me, A&E!

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2013 04:36 PM (hFL/3)

58 This guy has a track record several astronomical units long of examples where he has ignored what he said, did, or signed five minutes ago.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)

Yeah.  2008 Obama opposed gay marriage.  What did A&E do then?

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2013 04:36 PM (HjPtV)

59 You know I don't understand why the gay people don't understand why it's so hard for us poor heterosexuals to understand; why is it so wrong for the non-gay people to express their non-understanding of the whole penis in the butt thing. I think it's a legitimate question for a heterosexual to ask, or question. It doesn't seem normal to someone who is not gay. Why is that so freaking wrong.They don't understand us we don't understand them. But yet we get demonized. I'm weary. Not everything is based in hate.

Posted by: spypeach at December 18, 2013 04:36 PM (10H0T)

60
What exactly were Phil's lies? Interesting word choice, there.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2013 04:36 PM (8dspl)

61 >>> I should head to Walmart and buy some Duck Dynasty stuff though. Time to buycott. I can buy it at Walmart instead of online? Bonus! Note to self: Photo "Fear God, Hunt Ducks" t-shirt and tweet it to A&E.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 04:36 PM (ebmsN)

62 No he didn't. He said they're both sins. That's not comparing or relating the two. He also included promiscuity. But don't expect facts to be dealt with.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 04:36 PM (MMC8r)

63 Poop chutes are exit only.

Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2013 04:37 PM (zqvg6)

64 >>> I love the Robertson's but this kerfluffle is exactly what Obama ordered Is Phil Robertson afraid of O-bama? Nope.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 04:38 PM (ebmsN)

65 I wonder if any channel would take them? Is any media conglomerate willing to stand up to the Gay Mafia? They could always go to Blaze TV.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:38 PM (ZPrif)

66 So they walk and move to USA let em lose millions.

USA's owned by NBC which is run by people who give kickbacks to SCOAMF, who (finally!) brought "healthcare" to the gays (see earlier thread) b/c they were somehow viciously barred from buying policies before.  O_o


The RFD network, maybe.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at December 18, 2013 04:38 PM (hO8IJ)

67 “Duck Dynasty” has been a ratings phenomenon for A&E, drawing 11.8 million viewers to its fourth season premiere last August, the most-watched nonfiction series telecast in cable history.
And I'm sure gays are their biggest demographic.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 18, 2013 04:39 PM (YQUIz)

68 "He also included promiscuity" But we aren't allowed to say that anything is "wrong" because that's "judging" which is apparently the only thing Jesus cares about at all. You can be fucking a 12 year old boy while shooting heroin and stabbing a hobo with a knife, but if someone "judges" you for you're actions, they're clearly the bad guy.

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2013 04:39 PM (hFL/3)

69
I don't know what their contract says which of course would be important, but I would think the whole DD crew would say adios to A & E.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2013 04:39 PM (MaP11)

70 'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson on Indefinite Hiatus Following Anti-Gay Remarks Shit, we were all ripping on the Jammies Fairy of healthcare.gov. Guess we gotta be more careful.

Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2013 04:39 PM (FcR7P)

71 I can buy it at Walmart instead of online? Bonus! Note to self: Photo "Fear God, Hunt Ducks" t-shirt and tweet it to A&E. Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 08:36 PM (ebmsN) Walmart, Bass Pro Shops, Cabelas....

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 04:39 PM (bCEmE)

72 I like how homosexual perverts now get to lecture society about "What true Christians believe." When was the last time any member of GLAAD was in an actual church (and not doing undercover research)?

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 04:40 PM (zeV2E)

73 Walmart, Bass Pro Shops, Cabelas.... Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2013 08:39 PM (bCEmE) I believe Gander Mtn as well

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 04:40 PM (GEICT)

74 Every new day proves Pat Buchanan right - "We are in a culture war!"

We have lost.


233 years was a good run.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 18, 2013 04:40 PM (Xkr8I)

75 Didn't Phil also skip some interview lately to go duck hunting. Maybe this is all his brilliant plan to not have to spend time with cameras and the production crew douchebags.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 18, 2013 04:40 PM (TI3xG)

76 I'm sure A&E will be thrilled to fill their time slot with a new show like 'Horny Harlots of Hoboken' or 'ButtSex With Monkeys.'

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 04:41 PM (MMC8r)

77
This was the station that was taking out the word "Jesus" when he would say it, and now their little buddies are calling him un-Christian.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2013 04:41 PM (MaP11)

78 Damn, that up arrow on the Hollywood Reporter story is rolling like the debt clock.

Posted by: huerfano at December 18, 2013 04:41 PM (bAGA/)

79

Heh - something I've never seen before: the "ticker" on one of the comments at the Hollywood Reporter article is going crazy.

 

"Do you support Phil Robertson's opinion? Yes or No"

 

The comment has only been up for 32 minutes, and already has over 3500 "Yes" votes.

 

I've  NEVER seen a comment's "Upvote" spinning like a top, but there it is.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at December 18, 2013 04:42 PM (PZ6/M)

80 17 'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson on Indefinite Hiatus Following Anti-Gay Remarks http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/duck-dynastys-phil-robertson-indefinite-666808 Posted by: spypeach at December 18, 2013 08:23 PM (10H0T) God fuckin' forbid anyone that has a different opinion be allowed to voice it!! I hate these people. Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2013 08:25 PM (bCEmE) What he said is not offensive. Are they going to ban the pope for believing that homosexual behavior is a sin, too? He did not compare homosexuality to bestiality. He did say homosexual behavior and bestiality are sins.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 18, 2013 04:42 PM (h4eud)

81 >>> Walmart, Bass Pro Shops, Cabelas Lefties hate Walmart the most, plus I will be driving by one tomorrow.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 04:42 PM (ebmsN)

82 75 Didn't Phil also skip some interview lately to go duck hunting. Maybe this is all his brilliant plan to not have to spend time with cameras and the production crew douchebags. Posted by: The Hickster at December 18, 2013 08:40 PM (TI3xG) He told BaBaWaWa no. And she was stunned.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 04:42 PM (GEICT)

83 That's going to upset the asshole talk radio guy Andy dean who I have to listen to on the way home from work. They play his show 10 to midnight or whenever but the actual broadcast is earlier in the day. He's all for the "security" over liberty argument on this. And pretty much refuses to listen to any point against it. He also loves the tsa and had a whiny hitch fit about rand Pauls filibuster concerning drone strikes on American soil.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 18, 2013 04:42 PM (BuI1d)

84 Damn, that up arrow on the Hollywood Reporter story is rolling like the debt clock.
Posted by: huerfano

LOL.  As well it should.  A E just bit the big one.

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2013 04:42 PM (HjPtV)

85 The Robertson were doing just fine before A&E they will be fine financially if they walk. They probably won't be dictated to by the gay community.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2013 04:43 PM (Nji1V)

86 Phil, a product of the Sixties, was an early NSA operative. And he's absent now because the CIA needed him for a secret mission. There. All tied up.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2013 04:43 PM (xq1UY)

87 "Production crew douchebags." Too funny. I promise not to tell the video crew tomorrow. After all, it's Christmas...

Posted by: Caliban at December 18, 2013 04:43 PM (DrC22)

88 “Phil’s decision to push vile and extreme stereotypes is a stain on A&E] And you should listen to this guy. He is an expert in the vile stains that result from extreme pushing.

Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2013 04:43 PM (6UXQc)

89 Doesn't culture war imply 2 sides? This is more of a one sided assault by the secular left. Where are the Islamists when you need them? At least they are winning their culture war (as horrible as it is).

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 04:44 PM (zeV2E)

90 But we aren't allowed to say that anything is "wrong" because that's "judging" which is apparently the only thing Jesus cares about at all. Jesus also said "Go, and sin no more." He wasn't saying she wasn't sinning.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 04:44 PM (MMC8r)

91 Oddly, I'm just this week starting to feel paranoid. I mean, I was suspicious before, but now I'm feeling like I need to get the tin foil out, and disperse my arsenal.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 18, 2013 04:44 PM (QupBk)

92 Allowing this level of all encompassing intrusive surveillance requires a certain amount of trust in your government. Think about that for about 5 secondsÂ…Â…. Terrorism has become the ultimate Straw Dog for these ASSWIPES. Â…..except when they are asked to use the word in connection with muzzies

Posted by: ontherocks at December 18, 2013 04:45 PM (duazi)

93 Every new day proves Pat Buchanan right - "We are in a culture war!" We have lost. ..the media, not the war. Don't go looking at the media for what "everyone" thinks. (That goes for all of Washington's GOP, too)

Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2013 04:45 PM (FcR7P)

94 I don't think homosexuality is a sin or a perversion. I also think gay militants should leave the folks who think otherwise in peace. But of course they can't do that. Their militancy won't let them.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2013 04:45 PM (EWsrI)

95 Wooga ftw.

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2013 04:45 PM (hFL/3)

96 this is where brian dennehey comes in and sez blackbriar was a testing platform that didn't work out but this new program, greenbriar, is really totes cool

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 18, 2013 04:45 PM (RLTt1)

97 Can you slobberknock while wearing footie pajamas?

Posted by: gp at December 18, 2013 04:46 PM (mk9aG)

98 Do you hear that sound?  That's the sound of lawyers going through the Robertsons' A E contracts.  The 2014 season is all but finished, but it will be interesting to see if a single episode airs.

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2013 04:46 PM (HjPtV)

99 Jesus also said "Go, and sin no more." He wasn't saying she wasn't sinning. Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 08:44 PM (MMC8r) People's misuse of that story drives me nuts. "Judge not lest ye be judged." I'm pretty certain Jesus chose his words carefully, being the Son of God and all. He could have simply said "Judge not." He didn't. It wasn't a condemnation against judgment. It was a warning against hypocrisy. And yes, "go and sin no more." The woman was every bit as wrong in her behavior as the men were in theirs.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 04:47 PM (GEICT)

100 slobberknocked = nickelfucked It makes sense now.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 04:47 PM (doBIb)

101 I learned a few months ago that Phil has a Masters in education. Kinda surprised me.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 04:47 PM (bCEmE)

102 A&E will probably cut the show off, considering it's funniest show on tv it will be a considerable loss.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 18, 2013 04:48 PM (WdbF7)

103 He also said that he believes heterosexuals who sleep around are sinners yet you don't see straight people whining that its hurtful and that he must be censured. What a bunch of crap!

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 18, 2013 04:48 PM (h4eud)

104 Well I'll tell ya, if the other Duck Dynasty stars don't quit in protest, or perhaps go public and make express similar opinions if their contract prevents them from quitting, then I'll lose massive respect. They fire the guy that is the head of the family? The guy that invented the duck call that the whole show is about? Just for daring to have an opinion, and an opinion I might add that MOST people agree with. I guess I'm officially done with A&E.

Posted by: T43 at December 18, 2013 04:48 PM (VjlMj)

105 Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson has been fired from the reality program following his controversial remarks in GQ magazine regarding homosexuality. He's laughing all the way to the friggin' bank.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 18, 2013 04:48 PM (6fSty)

106 If it's a 'reality' show, they can easily fulfill their contract by only appearing on camera lambasting A&E management. If A&E does not wish to air it, that's their decision.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 04:48 PM (MMC8r)

107 What lies? That butt sex is gross? Butt sex is gross. I don't care if it's beween a man and a woman or two men. It's gross. And it spreads diseases. And it's gross. Sure, butt sex is nasty. But what about hot chicks scissoring? That is relatively disease free. And hot.

Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2013 04:48 PM (6UXQc)

108 Left seems to enjoy getting all judgy about what kind of car I drive or food I eat. Got lectured the other day about how I shouldn't eat any meat that can't be proven it has been "ethically slaughtered" by some douche that refuses to eat fast food for that reason. They claim not to be religious but they lecture me about the dietary restrictions of their cult.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:48 PM (ZPrif)

109
Heh.  I guess the Robertsons were smart to license everything under the sun with their images while they were hot.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2013 04:48 PM (MaP11)

110 I can't say I disagree with Phil. I mean, there are just some holes you don't put your cigar in.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 18, 2013 04:49 PM (aFTxd)

111 Would someone post a direct link to the Hollywood Reporter online poll? I didn't see it on the main page reporting the DD story.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 18, 2013 04:49 PM (YQUIz)

112 101 I learned a few months ago that Phil has a Masters in education. Kinda surprised me. Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2013 08:47 PM (bCEmE) I believe Willie has an MBA. I heard that Willie, Jase and the eldest brother are all ordained ministers.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 04:49 PM (GEICT)

113 Just a reminder: this has nothing to do with Islamic terrorism. Anything dealing with Muslims has to go through the super-secret Sensitive Operations Review Committee. Which is no doubt staffed by Dem-donating Muslim Brotherhood infiltrators.

Posted by: Beagle at December 18, 2013 04:50 PM (sOtz/)

114 I wouldn't be surprised if Phil saw this as an out from the show. He's rich enough and doesn't give a damn about the yuppies.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 18, 2013 04:50 PM (WdbF7)

115 I love the Robertson's but this kerfluffle is exactly what Obama ordered. ISWYDT.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 18, 2013 04:50 PM (QupBk)

116 112 101 I learned a few months ago that Phil has a Masters in education. Kinda surprised me. Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2013 08:47 PM (bCEmE) I believe Willie has an MBA. I heard that Willie, Jase and the eldest brother are all ordained ministers. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 08:49 PM (GEICT) What? I thought they were all ignorant sister-fuckers?!?!?

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 04:50 PM (doBIb)

117 5200+ uptwinkles for Phil

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:50 PM (LSDdO)

118 slobberknocked? is that a higher or lower state of agitation than weeweed up on the obama scale?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2013 04:50 PM (rDidD)

119 What network will pick them up? There will probably be a bidding war. We can all agree they are done with A and E. I'm thinking FX or Spike or CMT.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 04:50 PM (zeV2E)

120 I hope Duck Commander does a limited edition Pink Goose Flute to commemorate this.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 04:51 PM (aFTxd)

121 >>>this is where brian dennehey comes in and sez blackbriar was a testing platform that didn't work out but this new program, greenbriar, is really totes cool

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 18, 2013 08:45 PM (RLTt1)<<<


No no no. I believe that was Brian Cox. Brian Dennehey played France in the movie.

Posted by: loving being a hater at December 18, 2013 04:51 PM (LDsJ6)

122 Posted by: andycanuck at December 18, 2013 08:49 PM (YQUIz)

Go to Drudge. It's the headline link.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:51 PM (LSDdO)

123 Daily reminder: A few weeks before Election Day 2014, Rush Limbaugh, or some GOP Congressman nobody cares about, or someone else similar, will say/do something politically incorrect, and the entire establishment media and Democrat Party will make that THE issue of the election, and flood the zone with coverage of the "controversy/scandal" for the rest of the campaign season until even the lowest low-info voters know about it. And because of this, the Dems will hold the Senate. Book it.

Posted by: WOW at December 18, 2013 04:52 PM (6j8ke)

124 First comment Andy .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 18, 2013 04:52 PM (XWw96)

125 What? I thought they were all ignorant sister-fuckers?!?!? Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 08:50 PM (doBIb) Stunning, right? Somehow that hateful ignorant Phil invented a new type of duck call that was unique enough to be issued a patent. Then his brain dead, cousin humping son somehow lucked his way through an MBA and managed to grow the business into a multimillion dollar enterprise. While another son, Jase, continued to expand upon Phil's design and invent new calls.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 04:53 PM (GEICT)

126 To drag this over from the other thread, " If teh gays can do this about Duck Dynasty, why can't Christians do it about Maher?"

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 04:53 PM (MMC8r)

127 Thank you, gentlemen.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 18, 2013 04:53 PM (YQUIz)

128 You'll never work in this town again!! What do you mean, "OK, then"? Get back here...

Posted by: Hollywood producer at December 18, 2013 04:53 PM (ebmsN)

129
As recently as Tuesday, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said the panel report would not be made public until next month, after the White House completed an interagency review of the policy proposals and Obama decided which would be adopted. He did not explain the reason for the delay, but suggested that officials wanted ObamaÂ’s views, in the form of a planned speech, to be released along with the report




What can I say. I just lie by reflex now.

Posted by: Jay Carney

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 18, 2013 04:54 PM (kdS6q)

130 I just went to the A&E website and sent them a little feedback. You can too if you appreciate your free speech, hate thought police and would like to receive a little of that tolerance they claim we have none of.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 18, 2013 04:54 PM (KuZ6A)

131 107

Sure, butt sex is nasty. But what about hot chicks scissoring? That is relatively disease free. And hot.


Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2013 08:48 PM (6UXQc)


...


Yeah, that's a tough one.

Posted by: Jesus at December 18, 2013 04:54 PM (e4elg)

132 THis is also the guy who started over Terry Bradshaw in college. Digest that.

Posted by: Molly k. at December 18, 2013 04:54 PM (cGc4u)

133 I got told I don't really know anything about Christianity when I said I was a Christian and believed homosexuality was a sin. 'Cause my denomination isn't full of all kind of scholars and teachers who study the actual Bible in the actual languages, as well as the writings of all kinds of other church fathers since then.

Just like when I tried to argue with someone about unions, I got told I don't know anything about unions, and got a several paragraph long diatribe about the history of unions for the past hundred years that obviously I had never bothered to learn. Then I got told, wait until my husband got let go of his job for being sick, and I'd see. I replied that my husband had just recently been let go from his job after he got sick (ostensibly because all the paperwork hoops weren't jumped through in time.)

But I can't have an different opinion. Because.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 18, 2013 04:54 PM (WD0KF)

134 1. It is all as stated and the NSA us just as incompetent as advertised. 2. It's a cover story. The NSA isn't incompetent at all and is glad to agree to stop doing useless stuff while doing other, more effective things. 3. Obama is the bringer of chaos and equates harm to the NSA and its probable national security benefits as a win. We'll never know.

Posted by: Kirk at December 18, 2013 04:55 PM (GBnWt)

135 " If teh gays can do this about Duck Dynasty, why can't Christians do it about Maher?"

That would be Anti-Semitic

Posted by: Calvinball at December 18, 2013 04:55 PM (R6JT1)

136 Stunning, right? Somehow that hateful ignorant Phil invented a new type of duck call that was unique enough to be issued a patent. Then his brain dead, cousin humping son somehow lucked his way through an MBA and managed to grow the business into a multimillion dollar enterprise. While another son, Jase, continued to expand upon Phil's design and invent new calls. And Uncle Si......ummmm......hangs around and.....

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 04:55 PM (doBIb)

137 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hul at December 18, 2013 08:47 PM (GEICT)

A good explanation of the verse and what Jesus meant:

http://tinyurl.com/3cq9mg7 (provocativechristian.com)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:55 PM (LSDdO)

138 According to the 60 Min piece. About all we got out of a trillion dollars was the ability to connect who called who in the past. Thats it. Seems like a waste of a trillion dollars to me. 

Posted by: UWP at December 18, 2013 04:55 PM (2hQRj)

139 >>> I hope Duck Commander does a limited edition Pink Goose Flute to commemorate this. I LOL'd

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 04:56 PM (ebmsN)

140 And Uncle Si......ummmm......hangs around andÂ….. Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 08:55 PM (doBIb) He fought for his country. He gets a pass.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 04:56 PM (GEICT)

141 HBO isn't dependent on advertisers. They do require the cable/satellite carriers to carry them.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:56 PM (ZPrif)

142 Hey, Jack.

It's on like Donkey Kong.

Posted by: Uncle Si at December 18, 2013 04:56 PM (LDsJ6)

143 and the entire establishment media and Democrat Party will make that THE issue of the election, and flood the zone with coverage of the "controversy/scandal" for the rest of the campaign season until even the lowest low-info voters know about it.
WOW
========
LOL.  Do you have any idea how many LIV watch Duck Dynasty?  My survey is strictly anecdotal, but a lot of people, and I mean Christian people of all colors of the rainbow, love and respect the Robertsons.  They will remember in November.

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2013 04:57 PM (HjPtV)

144 HBO isn't dependent on advertisers. They do require the cable/satellite carriers to carry them. And the gays are far outnumbered by the Christians.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 04:57 PM (MMC8r)

145 You might notice that Benelli hasn't dropped them.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 04:57 PM (aFTxd)

146 The counter on the Hollywood Reporter article about supporting the Duck Dynasty guy looks like a telethon toteboard...and it's all pro-Phil. I admit I don't watch the show. I don't watch much television at all really. But when someone states their opinion and is immediately punished for it, it's dark days for the country.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2013 04:58 PM (oFCZn)

147 Leftist boycotts got Beck kicked off advertiser-funded FoxNews, but couldn't prevent him from starting The Blaze. Walt Disney Beck.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 04:58 PM (ZPrif)

148 And Uncle Si......ummmm......hangs around andÂ….. He should have his own line of iced tea.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 18, 2013 04:58 PM (QupBk)

149 OH and don't forget (if you want to vote) turn the disqus comment sort thingy to BEST so as to find the most popular comment.

Which will be this poll posted by Richard.

Kudos to Richard BTW.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 04:58 PM (LSDdO)

150 The comments are still going nuts over at THR. They are close to hitting 2000.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 18, 2013 04:58 PM (h4eud)

151 145 You might notice that Benelli hasn't dropped them. Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 08:57 PM (aFTxd) Neither did Mossberg. Have they launched their new DD shotties yet?

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 04:58 PM (doBIb)

152 I didn't see anyone mention that A&E was adding in bleeps to mask cursing that was non-existent. Not one Robertson ever cursed during filming, but early on A&E felt the need to add bleeps to spice up the show. That was back when they were asking them not to say Jesus. I think Phil put an end to all that shit. Now - what needs to happen is conservatives contact DD advertisers and let it be known that we will boycott them of they don't pressure the network to stop being fuckwits. If an advertiser drops DD, make them suffer. Badly. If they threaten to drop DD, make them suffer. We need to start using the same tactics the left does. I'm so sick and tired of being sick and tired... Enough already.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 04:59 PM (V6E6P)

153 The show is hilariously funny and guess what at the end they all sit down to dinner while Phil gives thanks...to Jesus...now when was the last time you saw that on TV.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 18, 2013 04:59 PM (KuZ6A)

154 When's the last time someone grilled Keith Ellison over his religion's views on gheys?

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 04:59 PM (MMC8r)

155 “Phil’s decision to push vile and extreme stereotypes is a stain on A&E and his sponsors who now need to reexamine their ties to someone with such public disdain for LGBT people and families.” Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 08:29 PM (ZPrif) Nazi fucks. Right away go to taking away someone's living to punish them for free speech. Ditto hate the pricks or vaginas...whatev.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 18, 2013 05:00 PM (yICtd)

156 Neither did Mossberg. Have they launched their new DD shotties yet? Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 08:58 PM (doBIb) O rly?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 05:00 PM (GEICT)

157 Drudge has a habit of linking to the Hollywood Reporter which results in the delightful vision of dozens of articles about leftards crammed full of conservative counterfire in the comments section.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2013 05:00 PM (oFCZn)

158 "A few weeks before Election Day 2014, Rush Limbaugh, or some GOP Congressman nobody cares about, or someone else similar, will say/do something politically incorrect, and the entire establishment media and Democrat Party will make that THE issue of the election"

You could have made that same prediction before Election Day 2012.

When the Democrats stuck then unknown Sandra Fluke up in front of a Congressional committee, I said, "This is bait. It's deliberate, planned, culture war bait. Don't take the bait. Ignore this ditz. Don't say a goddamned word. If you have to say something, talk about horrible gasoline prices. Or talk about a hundred applicants for every 7-11 job."

What happens? The idiot Limbaugh swallows the bait. Hook, line and sinker. Rants about it. Calls Fluke a slut. Off to the races. The entire Democratic identity-politics distraction machine, fueled up and tuned up and ready for instant response, is out of the blocks before Rush even closes his yap. WAR ON WIMMENZ!!!

Which worked, depressing as it is to admit.

And yep, someone in the GOP will surely take the same or similar bait the next time it's offered. Less ability to learn from experience than a planarian worm.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2013 05:01 PM (gqT4g)

159 Obama just cut military pensions.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:01 PM (ZPrif)

160 I don't get how saying that gay men have butt-sex is a vile stereotype? Are the pitchers offended that people assume they are catchers or something?

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 05:02 PM (aFTxd)

161 I still can't find the counter on the Hollywood Reporter story.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 05:02 PM (bCEmE)

162 156 Neither did Mossberg. Have they launched their new DD shotties yet? Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 08:58 PM (doBIb) O rly? Check out their page.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 05:02 PM (doBIb)

163 Posted by: loving being a hater at December 18, 2013 08:51 PM (LDsJ6)

Brian Dennehy played the Mini Cooper Bourne drove like a rented mule.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 05:02 PM (LSDdO)

164 First comment , Tami .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 18, 2013 05:03 PM (XWw96)

165 All the stores here are going to sell out of DD merchandise tomorrow. I may help. But I'm still not buying the DD underwear...

Posted by: Mama AJ in North Louisiana at December 18, 2013 05:03 PM (SUKHu)

166 When the Democrats stuck then unknown Sandra Fluke up in front of a Congressional committee It wasn't even a real committee hearing. It was just a play, which the MFM dutifully reported as legit.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 18, 2013 05:04 PM (QupBk)

167 I still can't find the counter on the Hollywood Reporter story.

top of the disqus comments

Posted by: Calvinball at December 18, 2013 05:04 PM (R6JT1)

168 Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2013 09:02 PM (bCEmE)

Go to drudge and click headline

At story go to comments

Change comment sort to BEST

That will bring the comment with the poll up to the top as it has over 6000 7000 up twinkles last I looked.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 05:04 PM (LSDdO)

169 It's not Rush's fault. We should be allowed to state our opinion. He was making a fucking joke. A funny one too. If your strategy requires that nobody remotely prominent on the Right says anything that can be willfully misconstrued by the Left in the 12 months prior to an election -- then you have a shitty-ass strategy. Seriously, that strategy is a recipe for failure.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:04 PM (ZPrif)

170 Check out their page. Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 09:02 PM (doBIb) It'll barely load for me. I wonder if they're getting a lot of traffic.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 05:04 PM (GEICT)

171
Almost all of them on the show have college degrees except Godwin and Si.

Si's daughter was a Rhodes Scholar though.  Even Martin is getting a masters.


and they've made a zillion dollars.

Stupid rednecks I guess huh?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2013 05:05 PM (MaP11)

172 131 Ok. That was funny. If I had a keyboard, you would owe me one.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 05:05 PM (V6E6P)

173 Ok, nobody on the Right make any jokes that our sworn enemies on the Left could possibly take out of context! That's how we'll win elections!! Be as bland and dull as possible!! That will rally people to our cause!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:06 PM (ZPrif)

174 You could have made that same prediction before Election Day 2012. When the Democrats stuck then unknown Sandra Fluke up in front of a Congressional committee, I said, "This is bait. It's deliberate, planned, culture war bait. Don't take the bait. Ignore this ditz. Don't say a goddamned word. If you have to say something, talk about horrible gasoline prices. Or talk about a hundred applicants for every 7-11 job." What happens? The idiot Limbaugh swallows the bait. Hook, line and sinker. Rants about it. Calls Fluke a slut. Off to the races. The entire Democratic identity-politics distraction machine, fueled up and tuned up and ready for instant response, is out of the blocks before Rush even closes his yap. WAR ON WIMMENZ!!! Which worked, depressing as it is to admit. And yep, someone in the GOP will surely take the same or similar bait the next time it's offered. Less ability to learn from experience than a planarian worm. Posted by: torquewrench at  Actually that was planned before one of the debates when Stephanppolaus asked Romney some ridiculous question about banning birth control.

Posted by: Mr Pink at December 18, 2013 05:06 PM (c8owl)

175 Even Bill Maher said during an interview years ago that gay sex is "icky."  Yes, he used the word, "icky."  It's seared, seared into my memory.  I guess it's no shock that he's self-loathing.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 18, 2013 05:07 PM (e4elg)

176 8000 uptwinkles for Phil

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2013 05:07 PM (LUkGY)

177 Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 09:02 PM (aFTxd) Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 09:02 PM (aFTxd) Right? and we also cant find that off putting otherwise homophobe. 67+ partners? I knew gay guys who went to known restrooms and put their ass up to a hole in the wall...yeah mainstream. Sorry I must be a homophobe.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 18, 2013 05:07 PM (yICtd)

178 First, Slobber-knocker is a noun, not a verb. Second, with this Duck Dynasty deal, I suspect that business, as they say, is about to pick up.

Posted by: Jim Ross at December 18, 2013 05:07 PM (ZPrif)

179 Go to drudge and click headline At story go to comments Change comment sort to BEST That will bring the comment with the poll up to the top as it has over 6000 7000 up twinkles last I looked. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 09:04 PM (LSDdO) Ah, got it. Thanks.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 05:08 PM (bCEmE)

180 The problem with trying to give the Left no ammunition is that they can take anything you say and lie about it and the MSM will dutifully parrot it into something else entirely. Limbaugh's remarks weren't reported in context. Neither were this Duck guy's. All they need is a sorta-kinda that a sloppy reader will believe, and they can lie it into existance. Or they'll take 'women in binders' and invent a slur. There's no avoiding it when they will make it out of whole cloth.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 05:08 PM (MMC8r)

181 THR is up to 8,000 in support of Phil only 30 against.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 18, 2013 05:08 PM (KuZ6A)

182 159 Obama just cut military pensions. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 09:01 PM (ZPrif) And now all the Congresscritters who voted for it... hoping no one would notice... are saying... Oh... heavens... we need to fix this!!! But they voted for it anyway...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 05:09 PM (lZBBB)

183 169 It's not Rush's fault. We should be allowed to state our opinion. He was making a fucking joke. A funny one too. Posted by: Flatbush Joe It is Rush's fault. He *is* allowed to state his opinion and he's allowed to be pilloried for it. More importantly though, he has no excuse for not knowing what was coming, and he was even ham-fisted about it by calling her a slut. Can you imagine William F. Buckley being that crude? He'd have steered it back to the "concept" that she can't afford contraception that's closer than the bar she goes to for happy hour where the drinks are still more expensive than the pill, or some such. Rush isn't some ingenue. He makes millions of $ a year because people actually listen to what he says. Yeah, it is Rush's fault.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 18, 2013 05:09 PM (3zCY5)

184 here's the tinyurl for the Hollywood Reporter story

http://tinyurl.com/mh49x8o

Goto comments

Change comment sort (heading to the far left just below the comment box.) to BEST

When it comes back up the BEST comment (most ups) will be the top comment which will be the poll comment.

Over 8k now

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 05:10 PM (LSDdO)

185 My wife is kind of tickled that I watch Duck Dynasty. We could pass for the yuppies that Phil warns you about. She will not be pleased when I bring legible clothing into the house.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 05:10 PM (ebmsN)

186 Exactly, if they can invent a WarOnWomen slur out of "binders full of women" then there is no way speak English as a normal adult without giving them ammunition.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:10 PM (ZPrif)

187 Or they'll take 'women in binders' and invent a slur. There's no avoiding it when they will make it out of whole cloth " I can see Russia from my house." I fucking hate the left.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2013 05:10 PM (V6E6P)

188 "Obama just cut military pensions."

With the energetic support of the House GOP, without whom said cuts would have gone precisely nowhere. Thanks a bunch, Paul Ryan! Booyah, Boehner!

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2013 05:11 PM (gqT4g)

189 No, blaming Rush is retarded.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:11 PM (ZPrif)

190 I watched the tammi concert on my local pbs station last night. It is a very rare concert done in the mid 60s for the kids of the elite. quite a show, watch it if you can. and notice how 50 years ago life seemed to be less racist then it is now. I know, hard to believe huh?

Posted by: oc joe at December 18, 2013 05:11 PM (hqVUe)

191 Mark Pryor, Mary Landrieu, and Kay Hagan walk into a bar.  "Whew" sez Pryor, "at least we got the gay vote."

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2013 05:11 PM (HjPtV)

192 Rush correctly identified Sandra Fluke as a worthless cum slut. The press incorrectly identified Rush as a sexist.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 05:12 PM (zeV2E)

193 Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 18, 2013 09:00 PM (yICtd) The question soon becomes... Are there more Gays, and serious gay supporters... or more folks who are really tired of the Gay agenda being forced on them.... Hollywood and MSM, the former.... rest of the country... the later...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 05:12 PM (lZBBB)

194 *Clutches pearls*

Posted by: Gore Vidal at December 18, 2013 05:12 PM (R6JT1)

195 Fluffy, Go to Wally World get the shirt with Phil and happy,happy,happy on it mine makes me smile every time I put it on.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 18, 2013 05:12 PM (KuZ6A)

196 Megyn runs A Christmas Story clip of Ralphie in the bunny suit, mocking Flannel Boy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 18, 2013 05:12 PM (aDwsi)

197 Now, you can get the almost same ghey pj's that were in our "famous" ad and wear them tonight with your "friend". Order now and we will throw in some hot chocolate. http://tinyurl.com/p26txsq

Posted by: OFA at December 18, 2013 05:13 PM (0FSuD)

198 Bill Maher has said 1000 things that are a million times worse than anything Rush has ever said. But that doesn't become a national story because the Left controls the media. Hell, Rush is far less edgy than he used to be.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:14 PM (ZPrif)

199

I see CNN is busy serving there GLAAD masters and going after that Duck Dynasty guy. How dare he believe the Bible means what it says in regards to sexual morality and sin. The criminalization of Christianity is well on its way.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 18, 2013 05:15 PM (8SsiG)

200 OT Watching Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen 1) Megan Fox 2) Optimus is a bad ass 3) Yes, I tear up a little when Optimus is killed

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 05:15 PM (GEICT)

201 the thing to do is when they jump on a comment, don't apologize or stutter about it.

Unless you didn't really MEAN what you said.

Conservatives will be lied about and the attempt will be made to make them look like fools.

But what they say is accurate or what they believe is true or what they believe IN then they should have no fear of standing up and admitting to it.

isn't it time to stop fearing for our jobs, our careers our STUFF and start standing up to the bullies?

And if you lose something because they're stronger, so what?

Do you really want to continue to live like that in the country that's being shaped by that sort of action?

Perhaps they'll drive us all out of our jobs but the will not have forced us to kneel to their lies and their sin and their hate.

isn't that worth all the riches in the world?

Isn't what's happening now partly our fault for not saying

NO MORE sooner?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 05:15 PM (LSDdO)

202 Is Attack Watch still extant? I guess with all the meta-data gathering now, that website is no longer needed. Or was it simply mocked into oblivion? (Sort of like PJ Boy soon will be.)

Posted by: Hotchee Totchee Liberace at December 18, 2013 05:15 PM (/cUUk)

203 Good god. Megyn just showed Michelle saying 'make signing up for healthcare a treat'

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 18, 2013 05:16 PM (aDwsi)

204 During the Sandra fluke debacle why did no one ask her why didn't she go down to her local Health Dept. where they give out FREE birth control if you have no money. They use sliding scale payments if you are fortunate enough to be above the poverty line.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 18, 2013 05:16 PM (KuZ6A)

205 "He *is* allowed to state his opinion and he's allowed to be pilloried for it."

Limbaugh is paid to state his opinion.  The MSM is the MSM and they do what they're paid to do.  Life sucks sometimes.  Nathanael Greene once said "We fight, get beat, then rise and fight again."  That's what I think, too.

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2013 05:16 PM (HjPtV)

206 Over 9000!

Posted by: Mama AJ in North Louisiana at December 18, 2013 05:17 PM (SUKHu)

207 198 Bill Maher has said 1000 things that are a million times worse than anything Rush has ever said. But that doesn't become a national story because the Left controls the media. Hell, Rush is far less edgy than he used to be. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 09:14 PM (ZPrif) That is why what Rush says can be used very effectively against him and folks on his side. What should he do? He should speak his mind.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2013 05:17 PM (EWsrI)

208 We see you when you're sleeping, We know when you're awake, We know if you've been bad or good...

Posted by: NSA at December 18, 2013 05:17 PM (/cUUk)

209 The counter is going funky on the story about Phil. It was at 9900, I reloaded the page and it was at 7900.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 05:17 PM (GEICT)

210 The question soon becomes... Are there more Gays, and serious gay supporters... or more folks who are really tired of the Gay agenda being forced on them.... Hollywood and MSM, the former.... rest of the country... the later... Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 09:12 PM (lZBBB) I for one Romeo am so sick of the obligatory witty, fashion conscious, intelligent, professional, well read, blah blah homosexual in EVERY fucking show. Like they are 95% of the population. Its propagandas pure and simple.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 18, 2013 05:17 PM (yICtd)

211 I keep waiting for the pendulum to swing back and it still hasn't happened on a societal/cultural level. Either the reaction to the Left's 40 years of nonsense is going to be enormous OR the pendulum is broken and we're screwed. In which case I suggest a new country, but the rest of the West is far worse and places like Africa and Latin America are socialist and/or non-functioning. Perhaps East Asia or Israel.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 05:17 PM (zeV2E)

212
Very few people voted for anybody because of sandra fucking fluke.

More than half of the voters in the country like or are the FSA.  The country has changed.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2013 05:18 PM (MaP11)

213 203 Good god. Megyn just showed Michelle saying 'make signing up for healthcare a treat' Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 18, 2013 09:16 PM (aDwsi) Is there a word for super tacky? No shame.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 05:18 PM (0FSuD)

214 Only The Obama Administration can mess up an inside job.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at December 18, 2013 05:18 PM (MhA4j)

215 Phil Robertson is going to win this one. Just watch.

Posted by: simplemind at December 18, 2013 05:18 PM (hTeQK)

216 Rush correctly identified Sandra Fluke as a worthless cum slut. Limbaugh actually said that, if what Fluke said was true, SHE was saying she was an incredibly promiscuous slut. But the Left and the MSM only needed him to say the word and THEY would re-write the context. I do with Limbaugh had not said that word-- not when 'liar' would have been so much more accurate. But don't think they won't manufacture what ever controversy they feel they need. These manufactured issues (like Romney wants to outlaw birth control) are their version of 'Boob Bait for the Bubbas.'

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 05:18 PM (MMC8r)

217 There's a bunch of RINO squishes on Twitter saying if you thought Martin Batshit should have been fired from MSNBC for wishing grotesque bodily harm on someone he didn't like (that they also don't like) while on the air at his job, you should be cheering the firing of Phil Robertson for telling an interviewer off the air what Bible teachings he believes.  Because those are the same thing, or something.

They've gone full progg.  Never go full progg.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at December 18, 2013 05:19 PM (hO8IJ)

218 200 OT Watching Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen 1) Megan Fox 2) Optimus is a bad ass 3) Yes, I tear up a little when Optimus is killed Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 09:15 PM (GEICT) Watching "Charlie Brown Christmas" with the family. 1) Lucy Van Pelt is a bitch 2) Snoopy pwns 3) I just realized I dance like those kids in the play rehearsal

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 05:19 PM (doBIb)

219 Can you imagine William F. Buckley being that crude? Vidal: The only pro- or crypto-Nazi I can think of is yourself... Buckley: Now listen you queer, quit calling me a crypto-Nazi or I'll sock you in the goddamn face and you'll stay plastered. Learn some history, Goth.

Posted by: blaster at December 18, 2013 05:19 PM (4+AaH)

220 Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 18, 2013 09:17 PM (yICtd) Yeah.... I really hit my limit when they made Sherlock Holmes Gay...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 05:19 PM (lZBBB)

221 I thought that diversity meant embracing different cultures and viewpoints.
Not suppressing those that we don't like.

And the Phil Robertson poll is 9300 support him
32 against.

I think that there are people getting fed up with being told that the gay community only wants to be allowed to live in peace.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2013 05:20 PM (teMpq)

222 Oh, OK.

Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty has just been fired by A&E for endorsing the Bible's view of homosexuality.

And a judge in Utah just declared polygamy legal again.

Well, like someone said, if nothing happens to America at this point, God is going to owe an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah.

Posted by: Beverly at December 18, 2013 05:21 PM (EyVol)

223 Can you imagine William F. Buckley being that crude? Posted by: SFGoth at December 18, 2013 09:09 PM (3zCY5)
He would have taken ten minutes to say what Rush could say in ten seconds.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2013 05:21 PM (VpMO0)

224 That Buckley quote: Buckley: Now listen you queer, quit calling me a crypto-Nazi or I'll sock you in the goddamn face and you'll stay plastered. ... would probably get Buckley Derbyshire'd from National Review today.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:22 PM (ZPrif)

225 Phil Robertson is going to win this one. You can't argue with Vagina.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 05:22 PM (aFTxd)

226 Gay community won't be happy til the whole country is like a castro street butt fair.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2013 05:22 PM (Nji1V)

227 The Atlantic Wire sub-section of the Atlantic website has a feature about PJ Boy. Of course the conservative blogs are blamed for mocking gays. I understand that mags like the Atlantic were always culturally liberal but when and why did they become pro-Obama, pro DNC? In other words politically partisan? Seems to me that would piss off about half their potential readers/subscribers. I wouldn't think there's money in it.

Posted by: BubbaLou at December 18, 2013 05:22 PM (/cUUk)

228 I'm waiting for the protests going directly to THR makes them pull the comment.

I had a Breitbart comment once that took off like that but apparently enough people complained so they took down the comment.

(I had a few thousand ups at the time)

I was very shocked especially at Breitbart (it was before Disqus took over) and have never trusted them since.

THR being a tabloid in HOLLYWOOD strikes me as being vulnerable to some claiming that the comment is offensive somehow or violates some clause in the EULA and will close the comments or take the comment off.

We'll see.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 05:22 PM (LSDdO)

229 Over 10k now.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 05:23 PM (bCEmE)

230 I hope Fox picks up duck dynasty and plays it in prime time.

Posted by: simplemind at December 18, 2013 05:23 PM (hTeQK)

231 The Duck Commander guys are crazy smart. Every Christian in the country is going to buy out every DD thing in Wal Mart. There will be no Phil Chia heads left anywhere. And A&E knows they can leave and go somewhere else so they are dancing. Better for AE to STFU unless they want them to leave. When you don't give a shit, you don't give a shit.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 05:24 PM (0FSuD)

232 . would probably get Buckley Derbyshire'd from National Review today. Posted by: Flatbush
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Sadly, true

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 18, 2013 05:24 PM (aDwsi)

233 ... would probably get Buckley Derbyshire'd from National Review today. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 09:22 PM (ZPrif) Or Coultered. Unfortunately you are correct. Who was it that posted here maybe we ought to be just as disagreeable to the Left as they are to us? We are punching bags.

Posted by: blaster at December 18, 2013 05:24 PM (4+AaH)

234 >>Every Christian in the country is going to buy out every DD thing in Wal Mart. I'm going to take pics of the empty displays tomorrow.

Posted by: Mama AJ in North Louisiana at December 18, 2013 05:25 PM (SUKHu)

235 #224 Look up the old Gore Vidal videos on youtube. That one with Buckley (who called Vidal a queer) and also the combative one with Vidal and Mailer on the Dick Cavett Show. Now we have fake belligerence issuing from assholes on msnbc who directly rant at the camera. No smarts, no fun, no finesse.

Posted by: BubbaLou at December 18, 2013 05:25 PM (/cUUk)

236 A & E Anal & Ecstatic!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 05:25 PM (bCEmE)

237 OK....time out on the Phil Robertson poll.

After careful research, it looks like anyone can "Upvote" to support Phil without being registered.
I know, because it took my votes as fast as I could hit the button. Must have personally racked up at least 75 yes votes myself.

BUT...to vote No, or downvote, one must be registered.

Gotta call bullshit on this one.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2013 05:26 PM (teMpq)

238 Fox picks up Duck Dynasty, plays it in prime time, and their chief sponsor is chic fil a . . .

Posted by: simplemind at December 18, 2013 05:26 PM (hTeQK)

239 3) I just realized I dance like those kids in the play rehearsal Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 09:19 PM (doBIb) Need me to show you how it's done?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 05:26 PM (GEICT)

240 230 I hope Fox picks up duck dynasty and plays it in prime time. That's not a bad idea. I was thinking FX but DD has pretty much outgrown cable TV judging by its ratings.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 05:26 PM (zeV2E)

241 I really wonder who will pick them up. Which media conglomerates can stand up to the Gay Mafia pressure campaigns? They'll probably try to find a face-saving apology to get him back on air. Maybe they can make DD take on a gay character. Like Pajama Boy could join them for a season.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:26 PM (ZPrif)

242 The "Pendulum" isn't swinging back because the MFM is artificially repressing the information and the response.

They are distorting our society and our country and our politics and the stress will soon grow to the point where something will break.

In fact, I think that's exactly the plan of Obama and Co. To stress the country until it breaks.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 05:26 PM (LSDdO)

243 A converted hippie in a beard says gheys are breaking God's law? So, maybe a tipping point. Gabe, I would be nervous.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 05:26 PM (0FSuD)

244 >>> Every Christian in the country is going to buy out every DD thing in Wal Mart. Just this AM I was thinking about the Hobby Lobby boycott. I drove up to Manchester, NH and bought a set of mini screw drivers.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 05:26 PM (ebmsN)

245 How can we be losing a Culture War with fine men like John McCain watching our backs?

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 05:27 PM (MMC8r)

246 Seems to me that would piss off about half their potential readers/subscribers. I wouldn't think there's money in it. Posted by: BubbaLou
--------------------

Their philosophy swamps common sense.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 18, 2013 05:27 PM (aDwsi)

247 231 The Duck Commander guys are crazy smart. Every Christian in the country is going to buy out every DD thing in Wal Mart. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 09:24 PM (0FSuD) No cable fro me so I watched it a few times in hotels, but yeah I'm buying a shirt.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 18, 2013 05:28 PM (yICtd)

248 I was very shocked especially at Breitbart (it was before Disqus took over) and have never trusted them since.

I wonder why IntenseDebate commenting isn't as widespread anymore. I haven't seen anything else like its commenter rating system.

Posted by: Thunder at December 18, 2013 05:28 PM (R6JT1)

249 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2013 09:26 PM (teMpq)

You voted yes first?

Then to change that vote to voting down, you have to show you are that commenter. You probably ARE registered with disqus, you just didn't know it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 05:28 PM (LSDdO)

250 Networks run Gee, it's ghey I hear. So someone will run DD, they are all whores.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 05:28 PM (0FSuD)

251 I hope A and E doesn't get a cut of DD merchandise.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 05:29 PM (zeV2E)

252 Yep in today's climate, Buckley using "queer' as a slur would get him exiled to the Dark Enlightenment continent, the island of Lost Toys with Derb and Steve Sailer writing unread articles for Taki Magazine.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:29 PM (ZPrif)

253 Anal & Ecstatic! Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2013 09:25 PM (bCEmE) Throw in a deuce and I'm there!

Posted by: Marty Bashir at December 18, 2013 05:29 PM (oFCZn)

254 OT: Has Weasel Zippers been stuck on the same page/story for the past two days for anyone else using Firefox? Reloading the page and/or hitting the homepage link haven't changed it for me either.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 18, 2013 05:29 PM (YQUIz)

255 You probably ARE registered with disqus, you just didn't know it.

Let us check that for you. We'll be right back.

Posted by: NSA at December 18, 2013 05:29 PM (2DunM)

256 I thought Attorney General Eric Holder was an old hand at this kind of self-exonerating audit.  As many times as he's done it, you'd think there'd be a fucking template by now.

Posted by: Fritz at December 18, 2013 05:30 PM (TKFmG)

257 Yeah, WZ has been having weird issues.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:30 PM (ZPrif)

258 "Then to change that vote to voting down, you have to show you are that commenter. You probably ARE registered with disqus, you just didn't know it.'

No...it will NOT except a No vote from me at all.
But I can sit there and hit the yes button like a monkey on crack.
And each time I hit it, the total yes count ratchets up.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2013 05:31 PM (teMpq)

259 DD is so popular, they could syndicate it and kick fucking ass. That was Oprah's game plan. Who doesn't think a syndicated DD would not get sold? I want in.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 05:31 PM (0FSuD)

260 The robertsons aren't crazy rich cause they are crazy stupid. They will come out on top yet. Maybe they got sick of kissing liberal media ass, and Phil found a way out.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2013 05:31 PM (Nji1V)

261 WZ seems to be updating in fits and starts, lately.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 05:31 PM (aFTxd)

262 Need me to show you how it's done? Play that funky music white boy!!!!

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 05:31 PM (doBIb)

263 My own opinion on the gays seems to coincide with Duck Commander's even though I don't watch the show per se. Fecal material smeared dicks are a turn off man.  As are guy anuses.

Posted by: UWP at December 18, 2013 05:31 PM (2hQRj)

264 Nothing was said about retribution (on earth) by Christians to anyone who sins (gay or whatever). That's for G-d to judge.

Most Christians (and phil did it too) make the statement that they hate the act but not the actor. (hate the sin not the sinner)

In fact being Homosexual is NOT a sin. It's the consummation of the homosexual act that is the sin.

That's why you hear about someone gay being employed by the Church and then when they go active publicly, are fired.

No gay person has anything to fear from the majority of Christians (I'd watch out for the musloids though).

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 05:32 PM (LSDdO)

265 I see Pat Buchannan has been on FoxNews more and more. Somehow he survived being Derb'd and got back on TV.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:32 PM (ZPrif)

266 Over 11k now.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 18, 2013 05:32 PM (7mQyC)

267 India is piiiiiiissed! India on Tuesday summoned the US ambassador and announced that it was withdrawing a series of diplomatic privileges to US officials. It also reopened a road that runs past the US embassy in Delhi but which for several years has been blocked off for security reasons. Several Indian officials declined to meet with members of a visiting US delegation. A senior member of India’s main opposition party said India should arrest gay partners of US diplomats living in India. “My suggestion to the government of India is, the media has reported that we have issued visas to a number of US diplomats' companions. Companions means that they are of the same sex,” Yashwant Sinha of the Bharatiya Janata Party told reporters. He added: “Now, after the Supreme Court ruling, it is completely illegal in our country. Just as paying less wages was illegal in the US. So, why doesn’t the government of India go ahead and arrest all of them?” HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! and WTF is up with 'Companion' visas for US diplomats?! Gay this...gay that. I'm sick of it.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 05:33 PM (bCEmE)

268 DD guys make $200K for each show. A mighty small cut. There merchandise is making them a hell of a lot more than that.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 05:33 PM (0FSuD)

269 I don't think my sanity is going to survive three more years of this interesting news and stuff.

Posted by: Starting to Worry at December 18, 2013 05:33 PM (tzbrB)

270 Posted by: SFGoth at December 18, 2013 09:09 PM (3zCY5) --- Buckley was cruder than that regarding Gore Vidal, IIRC.

Posted by: Baldy at December 18, 2013 05:33 PM (2bql3)

271 I saw Fits and Starts open for Kraftwerk at the Palladium East back in 1982.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2013 05:33 PM (oFCZn)

272 you can also go directly to the family's business site duckcommander.com I ordered a whole lotta stuff for Christmas about a month ago :0)

Posted by: ginaswo at December 18, 2013 05:34 PM (Was8V)

273 it's not your job to judge. remember that and life is easier

Posted by: don't forget at December 18, 2013 05:35 PM (hqVUe)

274 I have a 30 year old Duck Commander call, it was cheap, it is still good and it still works. What a great company.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 05:35 PM (0FSuD)

275 Drudge had a story up about that Indian Ambassador getting a cavity search.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 05:35 PM (aFTxd)

276 I thought kraftwerk was killed in a wreck on the autobahn in 79. I had that on vynil believe it or not. Fuck i'm old.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2013 05:36 PM (Nji1V)

277 I find it funny that India is pissed, when if you show up at the police station to report being raped, the odds of being re-raped are about 70%.

Posted by: UWP at December 18, 2013 05:36 PM (2hQRj)

278 Tomorrow, every senator and congresscritter is going to be grilled on the Phil Roberston matter.

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2013 05:36 PM (HjPtV)

279 Homosexual mafia strikes again

Posted by: SamIam at December 18, 2013 05:37 PM (FKt6g)

280 One thing that works to the DD guys' benefit-- you don't need networks like you used to. DVD and streaming can give you your own 'broadcasting' setup now like never before, just like ebooks have done for publishing. They can do programming of their own and not have to cut anyone else in on it.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 05:37 PM (MMC8r)

281 India has 1 billion people, nukes, and is poised to become a powerhouse. Pissing them off is teh stupid.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2013 05:37 PM (EWsrI)

282 275 Drudge had a story up about that Indian Ambassador getting a cavity search. Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 09:35 PM (aFTxd) It gets worse. She's a woman and they go APESHIT over their women getting so much as touched by a man who isn't her husband or family. Remember when Richard Gere mock kissed that Indian actress. They were calling for his execution over there.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2013 05:37 PM (oFCZn)

283 India pissed about a search. This is a fucking joke right? Ask the tourist raped by six men that got away. Different kind of anal search I guess.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 05:37 PM (0FSuD)

284 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2013 09:31 PM (teMpq)

Try doing it slowly and observe.  Hit the "up" once, it goes up and highlights blue.  Hit it again, it goes down and is no longer highlighted...it takes your vote out.  All you are doing is toggling your vote.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2013 05:38 PM (LUkGY)

285 Tomorrow, every senator and congresscritter is going to be grilled on the Phil Roberston matter. Except KEITH ELLISON.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 05:38 PM (MMC8r)

286 God, I hate both sides in all of this culture war crap. I'm sick of everyone.

Posted by: Baldy at December 18, 2013 05:38 PM (2bql3)

287 I don't know what you're doing but when I click down, my up vote is deducted from the up votes. (since I'm registered I can't exactly duplicate what you say is happening.)

I do know that when I click the up again the down vote disappears and if I click up again, my up vote disappears but no down vote. (which makes sense in case someone didn't want to vote either way after voting one way or another)

Since your so concerned about this, I'd take a closer look at what's happening because your javascript may be doing this.

You may be getting an up vote showing but if you click reload, the total doesn't reflect what you clicked. That  could happen depending on what vers javascript you have and what's running on disqus.

Either way? It doesn't bother me if you can click it up till the cows come home.

But you have to ask yourself, why would disqus or THR allow this to happen?

is it some sort of anti gay conspiracy?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 05:38 PM (LSDdO)

288 India has 1 billion people, nukes, and is poised to become a powerhouse. Pissing them off is teh stupid. So, we should be trying to curry favor with them?

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 05:39 PM (aFTxd)

289 Thanks, Flatbush Joe et alia. I knew about their Disqus issues but didn't know it had affected the story posting. Oddly enough, they haven't posted anything about how they can't post main stories.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 18, 2013 05:39 PM (YQUIz)

290 288 India has 1 billion people, nukes, and is poised to become a powerhouse. Pissing them off is teh stupid. So, we should be trying to curry favor with them? Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 09:39 PM (aFTxd) We should be treating them the way we would want to be treated.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2013 05:40 PM (EWsrI)

291 So, we should be trying to curry favor with them? Yes. They are a buffer against the Pakistanis.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 05:41 PM (doBIb)

292 >>>Drudge had a story up about that Indian Ambassador getting a cavity search.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 09:35 PM (aFTxd)<<<



Wasn't me.

Posted by: New Mexico at December 18, 2013 05:41 PM (LDsJ6)

293 We should be treating them the way we would want to be treated. Posted by: eman at December 18, 2013 09:40 PM (EWsrI) I think garrett was making a spice joke.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 05:41 PM (bCEmE)

294 So, we should be trying to curry favor with them? ISWYDT.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 05:41 PM (MMC8r)

295 Posted by: don't forget at December 18, 2013 09:35 PM (hqVUe)

Bullshit.

People have to make judgments all the time.

It's why the lefty whine about "judge not lest ye be judged" is bullshit and they know it.

It's word twisting and coming from anti religious anti americanism it's not surprising.

I'd advise you revise your thinking.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 05:41 PM (LSDdO)

296 So, we should be trying to curry favor with them? Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 09:39 PM (aFTxd) I see what you did there.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2013 05:41 PM (oFCZn)

297 So, we should be trying to curry favor with them?
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 09:39 PM (aFTxd)


ISWYDT

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2013 05:41 PM (LUkGY)

298 288 India has 1 billion people, nukes, and is poised to become a powerhouse. Pissing them off is teh stupid. So, we should be trying to curry favor with them? To quote Archer after retrieving his suit from an Indian dry cleaner: "[Sniffs] Ugh. With the curry. I smell like Indira Ghandi's thong."

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 05:41 PM (zeV2E)

299 Yes. They are a buffer against the Pakistanis. Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 09:41 PM (doBIb) And China.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2013 05:41 PM (oFCZn)

300 I don't hate both sides in the Culture War. I'm not a so-con. But, you know what? They leave my lapsed ass alone. It's not really even a Culture War anymore. It's just the Left and Cultural Marxists curb-stomping the traditionalists over and over again. Most of them are scared to fight back. They are like an abused dog who won't leave his cage even when the door is open for fear of getting beaten again.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:42 PM (ZPrif)

301 I had a standard reply to press questions that were simply fishing. That question is not from one of my constituents ask their Representative.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 05:42 PM (0FSuD)

302 299 Yes. They are a buffer against the Pakistanis. Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 09:41 PM (doBIb) And China. And those dangerous SOBs in Bhutan and Sri Lanka.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 05:42 PM (zeV2E)

303 Pissing them off [India] is teh stupid.
It's almost like it was on purpose like it would please China and Pakistan but that would be insane so it couldn't be that.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 18, 2013 05:43 PM (YQUIz)

304 293 We should be treating them the way we would want to be treated. Posted by: eman at December 18, 2013 09:40 PM (EWsrI) I think garrett was making a spice joke. Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2013 09:41 PM (bCEmE) Damn. Totally missed it.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2013 05:43 PM (EWsrI)

305 "Try doing it slowly and observe. Hit the "up" once, it goes up and highlights blue. Hit it again, it goes down and is no longer highlighted...it takes your vote out. All you are doing is toggling your vote."

Yup, you may be right,

Which is actually better yet. It means that the votes are correct, and not getting manipulated.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2013 05:43 PM (teMpq)

306 267: We're in the best of hands. Smartest administration evah!!

Posted by: puddleglum at December 18, 2013 05:43 PM (8SsiG)

307 WZ updated properly when I turned off my ad-block. Weird.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:43 PM (ZPrif)

308 >>> So, we should be trying to curry favor with them? Holy cow, you are en fuego!

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 05:44 PM (ebmsN)

309 And China. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2013 09:41 PM (oFCZn) Yeah... that would be the China that my USN Son is out playing Cold War Games with, in the South China Seas....

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2013 05:44 PM (lZBBB)

310 I have a buddy who is exactly the kind of guy who the NSA would tap to do analysis of this kind of data.

I said to him this past September that if the current system could not stop the Boston Marathon bombing, where the evidence those scum left behind was so obvious in hindsight that there was no reason the intel services could not have stopped them with a little bit of common sense in their data-mining, never mind some sophisticated algorithm, then the current system is worthless.

He agreed 100% that the Feds have not got a clue what they are doing.

It's like everything in the government, a fucking huge waste of resources.

Posted by: Sudden Clarity Clarence at December 18, 2013 05:44 PM (cUbs5)

311 Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 09:44 PM (ebmsN)

No but their ass will be.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 05:45 PM (LSDdO)

312 I heard that Willie, Jase and the eldest brother are all ordained ministers. They're members of the Church of Christ, a congregational, fundamentalist church. The Church of Christ has no "ordination" of ministers. I don't know much about the family, but several of them could well be ministers. A minister in the Church of Christ is just a person who preaches.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 18, 2013 05:45 PM (JQuNB)

313 Hey VIA! You see that barricade situation in Towson earlier. Yeah, four doors down from me.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 18, 2013 05:45 PM (eQJwb)

314 "It gets worse. She's a woman and they go APESHIT over their women getting so much as touched by a man who isn't her husband or family."

Between this entirely preventable kerfuffle, and Secretary of State Mr. Ed The Talking Horse saying this week that it would be unthinkable if North Korea got the bomb (when they've had it already for years), I've concluded that we should all be thankful our country is in such capable hands as it is.

What would we _do_ without Our Betters handling matters for us?

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2013 05:45 PM (gqT4g)

315 God, I hate both sides in all of this culture war crap. I'm sick of everyone.

Posted by: Baldy at December 18, 2013 09:38 PM (2bql3)

_______________

They have to keep us all actively plugged into the culture wars so we can't pay attention to the fact that they are piledriving the US economy. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 18, 2013 05:45 PM (jucos)

316 Oh boy, DD throw down on Fox.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 05:45 PM (0FSuD)

317 So, we should be trying to curry favor with them?

Let's wait lentil India simmers down.

Posted by: Apu at December 18, 2013 05:45 PM (R6JT1)

318 Just for the record -- the true prevalence of homosexuality in America is only 1.5% of men, 0.5% of women.

NOT the "ten percent" they lyingly claim. The founder of ACT UP actually admitted as much before he died (of AIDS).

This is why they congregate in those few known centers: SF, NYC, Key West, Provincetown, LA.... that's their best chance for finding tail.

Long Island queer beaches are notorious for public nudity and guys cornholing scads of strangers behind the dunes. But yeah, that's as wholesome and godly as marrying the girl next door!

Whacko World.

If they would just shut UP about it and leave the rest of us alone -- but no. Now they want to tear down Christianity. I'll take them a tad more seriously if they have the nuts to go after Mohammed's boys. (Though the latter are woman-haters too, aren't they?)

Posted by: Beverly at December 18, 2013 05:45 PM (EyVol)

319 ;"> 288 India has 1 billion people ;">---- ;">5 of which are important

Posted by: UWP at December 18, 2013 05:45 PM (2hQRj)

320 http://blog.al.com/breaking/2013/12/live-blogging_todays_huntsvill.html But Phil Robertson is the problem . . .

Posted by: simplemind at December 18, 2013 05:46 PM (hTeQK)

321 We should send Biden to India. His experience at the seven-11 qualifies him.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 18, 2013 05:46 PM (6fSty)

322 308 >>> So, we should be trying to curry favor with them? Holy cow, you are en fuego! Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 09:44 PM (ebmsN) I know.... we Could send Elizabeth Warren over to talk to them in their Native Tongue.... after all... she is Indian!

Posted by: Obama State Dept. at December 18, 2013 05:47 PM (lZBBB)

323 Crap

'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson on Indefinite Hiatus Following Anti-Gay Remarks


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/duck-dynastys-phil-robertson-indefinite-666808

Posted by: spypeach at December 18, 2013 08:23 PM (10H0T)



It's time to let A&E and the rest of the PC police know that not everyone supports the leftist propaganda agenda. When its ratings suffer they can thank themselves for it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 18, 2013 05:47 PM (JivuR)

324 I know.... we Could send Elizabeth Warren over to talk to them in their Native Tongue.... after all... she is Indian! Thread. Winner.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 05:47 PM (doBIb)

325 That despicable child molester article does't even mention the dude is gay and his "partner" is another dude. Sick animals.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:47 PM (ZPrif)

326 >>>Holy cow, you are en fuego!

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 09:44 PM (ebmsN)<<<



Heh.



Posted by: New Mexico at December 18, 2013 05:47 PM (LDsJ6)

327 Damn. Totally missed it.
Thank you. Cumin again.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 18, 2013 05:48 PM (YQUIz)

328 267

He added: “Now, after the Supreme Court ruling, it is completely illegal in our country. Just as paying less wages was illegal in the US. So, why doesn’t the government of India go ahead and arrest all of them?”

Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2013 09:33 PM (bCEmE)

The State Department should chopper in footie pajama guy to smooth things over.  Call it a "hot cocoa summit."

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 18, 2013 05:48 PM (e4elg)

329 317 So, we should be trying to curry favor with them? Let's wait lentil India simmers down. Posted by: Apu at December 18, 2013 09:45 PM (R6JT1) Yogurt making any sense.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2013 05:48 PM (EWsrI)

330 Our relationship with India is going to probably be our most strategic relationship in the 21st century (sorry, formerly "Great" Britain). Even though India has a lot of serious issues, Thank God it is not a country of 1.2 billion Muslims or Commies. Pissing them off at this juncture is not helpful, but I'm sure the most transparent and competent administration in the history of the universe knows this.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 05:48 PM (zeV2E)

331 No pushback to the "Hate Speech" line of attack even on FoxNews.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:48 PM (ZPrif)

332 Muslims hang gheys, wonder if that will come up in the discussion?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 05:49 PM (0FSuD)

333 " Hey VIA! You see that barricade situation in Towson earlier. Yeah, four doors down from me."

Shit, we saw it...but didn't know it was right by you.

Be safe.
we need to do another meetup.

Maybe spypeach can make it again.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2013 05:50 PM (teMpq)

334 I don't have an ad-blocker add-on or app; just the Firefox generic popup blocker turned on.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 18, 2013 05:50 PM (YQUIz)

335 Here's a great game.

What side is a certain COB going to come down on when he posts the morning news thread with regards to the Duck Dynasty kerffluffle?

Posted by: Kreplach at December 18, 2013 05:50 PM (Xkr8I)

336 You can only rub people's noses in shit for so long. At some point they will become angry enough to not care what the consequences of reacting are and push back.

Try it with a child, a dog, any living thing and you'll find they have a breaking point.

G-d I hope ours comes soon.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 18, 2013 05:50 PM (LSDdO)

337
India has 1 billion people, nukes, and is poised to become a powerhouse.

Pissing them off is teh stupid.

So, we should be trying to curry favor with them?

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 09:39 PM (aFTxd)











*snort*


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2013 05:50 PM (MBqvE)

338 316 Oh boy, DD throw down on Fox. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 09:45 PM (0FSuD) I'm really sorry I turned that on.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 05:50 PM (bCEmE)

339
Megyn Kelly dropped the ball when the fag argued that the speech was hateful and she allowed that diatribe to stand.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 18, 2013 05:52 PM (pJF+c)

340 The FNC DD segment was just some leftist saying the DD dude is a disgusting bigot, not a "true" Christian, and shouldn't be allowed on the air to spew hate. The right-wing guests defense was well, yeah that was horrible bigoted hate, but he has a first amendment right to be a gay-hating, disgusting bigot. That was a curb-stomping victory for the Leftist.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:52 PM (ZPrif)

341

O.T.:  I started watching "Planet Terror" on I.F.C.  I gave it one-half hour and hated it.  I 'tuned back in' an hour later and I still hated the characters I'd seen;  and a few I hadn't.

 

(This is the flick where Rose McGowan plays a one-legged 'go-go dancer'.)

 

My question:  How did IFC give this three-and-a-half  'stars'?

 

-What am I missing?

 

-Why was the 'Old Skool', completely noticeable 'film-aging-white/black-spotting-degradation' through obvious CGI 'necessary'?

 

-What is up with the 'Kwik-Kut', 'Old-Skool' nonsense?

 

 

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 18, 2013 05:53 PM (lq3Ak)

342 Maybe we could make India feel better if we told them we were really sari?

Posted by: loving being a hater at December 18, 2013 05:53 PM (LDsJ6)

343
No gay ever used hate speech against a Christian, I'm sure.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2013 05:53 PM (MaP11)

344 that we are free to make choices,but we are not free from the judgement of the Lord. Love all he say's, and we do. take a break from condeming others and share your story of faith and hope for the world. you will find it takes you farther on your journey to peace.

Posted by: don't forget at December 18, 2013 05:54 PM (hqVUe)

345 That left-wing GLAAD dude was out-numbered 3-1 and just curb-stomped the whole Fox panel. The only one defining Christianity was the GLAAD dude.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:54 PM (ZPrif)

346 Next time a leftist uses the 'judge not' quote, demand they tell you the context. They'll be stumped.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 05:54 PM (MMC8r)

347

13,500+ "Yes" votes and still going strong 2 hours later.

 

A and E might want to re-think their  decision....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at December 18, 2013 05:54 PM (PZ6/M)

348 Obama should Kali India and talk to them about the elephant in the room.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2013 05:55 PM (EWsrI)

349 They all seemed terrified he'd say something mean about them.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 05:55 PM (ZPrif)

350 No pushback to the "Hate Speech" line of attack even on FoxNews. No recognition that sodomy is sinful either and that the universal problem of sin is the central point of Christianity, not this antichrisitian everyone should get along idea. Jesus said His message would turn sibling against sibling and parent against child, because those who dwell in darkness hate the light. You can repent. You can be weak to a sinful impulse. But you cannot pretend you have no sin because you're awesome and have any expectation of a place in eternity with God. Perios. Full stop.

Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2013 05:55 PM (hO9ad)

351 @339

Megayn Kelley is not a conservative. She stated that repeatedly on Leno.

What she is is an attractive, slightly sharper than average word reader, nothing more.

And FOX is not particularly conservative, it only appears so.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 18, 2013 05:55 PM (Xkr8I)

352 >>> What side is a certain COB going to come down on... Maybe Andy or Purp should do the early thread.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 05:55 PM (ebmsN)

353 336 You can only rub people's noses in shit for so long. At some point they will become angry enough to not care what the consequences of reacting are and push back. Try it with a child, a dog, any living thing and you'll find they have a breaking point. G-d I hope ours comes soon. It might be a while. Once they win the gay thing. Then they will move to polygamy. Then it will be legalized suicide (Which is actually legalized medical euthanasia where it is legal). They are already assaulting home schooling and religious schooling. They will then be working on lowering age of consent laws. It's 14 in some European countries. They will then move towards wishy-washy bull about "possession vs production" of child p**n like some European countries do. I'm afraid we've got a ways to go before the culture breaks utterly under the weight of its own depravity.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 05:55 PM (zeV2E)

354 The guy on Megan's show, discussing Christians being murdered in the Middle East, Bernard Somethingorother, just said, "As a double minority, I'm gay and Jewish....."

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 05:55 PM (bCEmE)

355 343 No gay ever used hate speech against a Christian, I'm sure. Fucking BREEDER! Bar got sued for that comment by a bartender in SF and had to pay for hate speech.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 05:55 PM (0FSuD)

356 and WTF is up with 'Companion' visas for US diplomats?! Gay this...gay that. I'm sick of it.

Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2013 09:33 PM (bCEmE)




Time for Barry to send Billie Jean King to India

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 18, 2013 05:56 PM (JivuR)

357 >>>Be safe. we need to do another meetup. They had about fifty officers and 5 APC-type vehicles out there. Whole neighborhood shut down. Nobody in or out, except my neighbor who told the cop "fuck you, I'm going to my house, arrest me if you think you can make it stick". He's a hardcore right-wing Paisan from Brooklyn. When I first heard about the whole shots-fired-barricade-standoff thing, I immediately had it narrowed down to one of three houses. I was right.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 18, 2013 05:56 PM (eQJwb)

358 You gotta Calcutta them some slack after those terrible bombings.

Posted by: United Natchoes at December 18, 2013 05:56 PM (R6JT1)

359 Time for Barry to send Billie Jean King to India.

Only Reggie could go to Iran.

Posted by: Mr Spock at December 18, 2013 05:58 PM (2DunM)

360
yeah, I was being sarcastic just in case there was confusion.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2013 06:00 PM (MaP11)

361 They all seemed terrified he'd say something mean about them. Exactly. The chilling effect is what it's all about.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 06:00 PM (MMC8r)

362 The guy on Megan's show, discussing Christians being murdered in the Middle East, Bernard Somethingorother, just said, "As a double minority, I'm gay and Jewish....."
Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2013 09:55 PM


Bernard was all butthurt.

Posted by: huerfano at December 18, 2013 06:00 PM (bAGA/)

363 352 >>> What side is a certain COB going to come down on... Maybe Andy or Purp should do the early thread. Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 09:55 PM (ebmsN) Gabe already said on twitter that he disagrees with Phil, but Phil is entitled to his own opinion.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 06:01 PM (GEICT)

364
Bernard is BFF with PajamaBoy!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 18, 2013 06:02 PM (pJF+c)

365 We aren't allowed to find anything distasteful. Which is bizarre, because there are quite a few heterosexual acts which I find distasteful. The difference, of course, is that outside of Furries, most heterosexuals don't define themselves by what they do with their genitals.

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2013 06:02 PM (hFL/3)

366 Bernard Somethingorother, just said, "As a double minority, I'm gay and Jewish....." ---------------- Self-respecting Jews everywhere cringe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 18, 2013 06:02 PM (aDwsi)

367 Gabe already said on twitter that he disagrees with Phil, but Phil is entitled to his own opinion. I know what Gabe is getting for Christmas.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 06:02 PM (doBIb)

368 That dude is about as observant a Jew as I am.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 06:03 PM (ZPrif)

369 Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 10:02 PM (doBIb)


Hmmm, maybe we should flood the GLAAD offices with duck calls.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2013 06:03 PM (LUkGY)

370 FFS.

Just saw that they are making a Gilligan's Island movie.

Nuke. Hollywood. From. Orbit. Now!

Posted by: loving being a hater at December 18, 2013 06:04 PM (LDsJ6)

371 I know what Gabe is getting for Christmas. Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 10:02 PM (doBIb) A signed Duck Commander call?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 06:04 PM (0FSuD)

372 You are afraid of what people will say about you when you are insecure,and are unsure of your morals and values, me I don't give a fuck.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 18, 2013 06:04 PM (KuZ6A)

373 The difference, of course, is that outside of Furries, most heterosexuals don't define themselves by what they do with their genitals. Every furry I've ever know (and it's a few) has been gay.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 06:04 PM (MMC8r)

374 I see Phil's now almost up to 15k uptwinkles.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2013 06:05 PM (LUkGY)

375 Just saw that they are making a Gilligan's Island movie. My prediction: Gilligan will be black or either Mary Ann or Ginger will be a lesbian.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 06:05 PM (doBIb)

376 Gilligan will be black or either Mary Ann or Ginger will be a lesbian. Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 10:05 PM (doBIb) Can they both just be curious?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 06:06 PM (GEICT)

377 Feel better Ace. Regarding the news of Roberston's suspension - guys this is exactly the kind of shit that the GOP can pounce on. A lot of folks that watch DD are NATURAL DEMOCRATS. Same thing with guns. THESE ARE OUR VOTERS. These are the guys we need, CAC is dead on. We need North Woods guys and PA hunters. Stand up to the fucking gay goosesteppers. And the gheys can shove their anal sex right up their ass.

Posted by: prescient11 at December 18, 2013 06:06 PM (u+Dc+)

378 371 I know what Gabe is getting for Christmas. Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 10:02 PM (doBIb) A signed Duck Commander call? Uncle Si chia head. Hehehe.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 06:06 PM (doBIb)

379 Re. The story about the man from AL using his own child to make porn, sexual abuse, bestilaity videos, I cannot understand why anyone would want to take the case for the defense. I understand the need for a fair trial but it's so appalling I can't imagine any decent person wanting to be involved.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2013 06:06 PM (BC6cY)

380 Can they both just be curious? Buying my advance ticket now!

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 06:07 PM (doBIb)

381 If Phil promises to make a duck call shaped like a dick will all be forgiven?

Posted by: The Hickster at December 18, 2013 06:07 PM (TI3xG)

382 Nah, Gilligan, the loser, will be white. Now the Captain, the Professor, and the Billionaire ... all good picks for being black being in positions of authority. Since the Captain is also a screw-up, my bet is the Billionaire is black. The Professor genius will be made a chick.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 06:08 PM (ZPrif)

383 381 If Phil promises to make a duck call shaped like a dick will all be forgiven? Posted by: The Hickster at December 18, 2013 10:07 PM (TI3xG) Lemme guess....the Dick Commander?

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 06:08 PM (doBIb)

384 >>> Every furry I've ever know (and it's a few) To the best of my knowledge, I have never met a furry.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2013 06:08 PM (ebmsN)

385 I have yet to have a discussion with a pro-ghey person who is a truly disinterested party. You scratch beneath the surface and you find out that they have a relative or acquaintance who is a practicing homosexual. What that means is that their perspective is colored by self-engagement, they cannot offer an objective opinion. I have yet to have a reasonable, rational person look me straight in the eye, and without smiling, tell me that they believe that a guy has been born with a genetic need to have anal intercourse with another guy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 18, 2013 06:08 PM (aDwsi)

386 Excerpt from the Hollywood Reporter article:

"Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil's lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe," GLAAD spokesperson Wilson Cruz said.

GLAAD overreached with that one.  So, only GLAAD-approved Christian doctrine will be allowed an MSM imprimatur. Heretics will be burned. 

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2013 06:08 PM (HjPtV)

387 Gilligan black ? No way . The Skipper would do life for the hat beatings , hate crime and all .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 18, 2013 06:08 PM (XWw96)

388 381 If Phil promises to make a duck call shaped like a dick will all be forgiven? Posted by: The Hickster at December 18, 2013 10:07 PM (TI3xG) Well, you do have to "blow" them.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2013 06:09 PM (0FSuD)

389 379 Re. The story about the man from AL using his own child to make porn, sexual abuse, bestilaity videos, I cannot understand why anyone would want to take the case for the defense. I understand the need for a fair trial but it's so appalling I can't imagine any decent person wanting to be involved. Oh, I suspect Huntsville will deal with him.

Posted by: Doctor Amy Bishop, Bitch at December 18, 2013 06:09 PM (JQuNB)

390 Can we gobsmack this administration with an everlasting gobstopper?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2013 06:09 PM (IzrCU)

391 To the best of my knowledge, I have never met a furry. Sci-fi fandom has them as a subset.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 06:09 PM (MMC8r)

392 A&E is down you can no longer see the Phil article, twitter is on fire, reckon they bit off more than they can chew.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 18, 2013 06:10 PM (KuZ6A)

393 Since the Captain is also a screw-up, my bet is the Billionaire is black. The Professor genius will be made a chick.

No no no, can't have the Billionaire be black, that would make him an evil 1%er.  Gotta be the perfessor who's black, since he will basically be a stand-in for Obama.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 18, 2013 06:10 PM (9GG/0)

394 If you are a Christian then you cannot deny the truth of what he said. He correctly paraphrased the New Testament. I'm so sick of these "Christian" cowards who are ashamed of their own religion. Just confess that you are atheists or "spiritual but not religious dipshits." I think I despise "religious" liberals more than just about anything because of their dishonesty and desire to kill something from within like a virus. You can't trust them to teach a Bible study. You can't trust them to do Sunday school. You can't trust them to minister in any way to non-believers. Because they ALWAYS turn it into a dissertation on themselves and where they disagree with 2000 years of teaching. ALWAYS. The thing I really respect about Mormons is their willingness to discipline and excommunicate.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 06:11 PM (zeV2E)

395 >>>My prediction:
Gilligan will be black or either Mary Ann or Ginger will be a lesbian.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 10:05 PM (doBIb)<<<


See, I was figuring Gilligan would be gay (Sheldon Cooper), Ginger will be black with bright red dyed hair (probably Beyonce)

Posted by: loving being a hater at December 18, 2013 06:11 PM (LDsJ6)

396

 

But, Ace... this way they know who isn't a terrorist. I mean, come on... how can you be sure you're not a terrorist until they check your stuff? Now you know you don't have some shady pal named Abdul. This is like a cool app, bro.

Posted by: otho at December 18, 2013 06:11 PM (9gNQd)

397 "Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil's lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe," GLAAD spokesperson Wilson Cruz said. -------------------------- So..., I guess the Apostle Paul is out, right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 18, 2013 06:12 PM (aDwsi)

398 Lemme guess....the Dick Commander? Posted by: EC at December 18, 2013 10:08 PM (doBIb) TOOT! TOOT! ALL ABOARD! Yay!

Posted by: Captain Barney Fwank at December 18, 2013 06:13 PM (oFCZn)

399 Ace gets sick too much.

He clearly doesn't cook the hobo meat well enough.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 18, 2013 06:13 PM (QFxY5)

400 393 A&E is down you can no longer see the Phil article, twitter is on fire, reckon they bit off more than they can chew. Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 18, 2013 10:10 PM (KuZ6A) A & E is down? Loads for me. BTW....Duck Dynasty is on.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 06:13 PM (bCEmE)

401 Curry favor with India?
Just try some naan-threatening behavior.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2013 06:13 PM (xq1UY)

402 I don't watch DD. What did the head of the family say about gays that was considered so offensive?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2013 06:13 PM (BC6cY)

403 Scarlett Johannson as Ginger and Mila Kunis as Maryann.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 18, 2013 06:13 PM (6fSty)

404 394 Since the Captain is also a screw-up, my bet is the Billionaire is black. The Professor genius will be made a chick. No no no, can't have the Billionaire be black, that would make him an evil 1%er. Gotta be the perfessor who's black, since he will basically be a stand-in for Obama. No. The scientist will be black and the textbook definition of "Mary Sue"- perfect in every way. The billionaire is going to be an old white guy who insisted on chartering the 3 hour tour even though everyone warned him not to. He'll have a lot of growing up to do.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 06:14 PM (zeV2E)

405 yup I can see it now, the Professor will be an Obama look-alike clone, if only the stupid people around him just *listened* to the brilliance that is Professor Obama, they would all be saved, but nooooo, they are all stupid idiots, and how did he get stuck here with this bunch of rabble anyway, he is too good for the idiots

Posted by: chemjeff at December 18, 2013 06:15 PM (9GG/0)

406 The Alimentary Canal should only be used for its intended purpose. Period!

Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 18, 2013 06:15 PM (KArqF)

407 Our relationship with India just took a turban for the worse.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2013 06:15 PM (EWsrI)

408 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2013 10:13 PM (BC6cY)


In a GQ interview, he said gays are sinners just like drunks and adulterers, and that he didn't understand a man being attracted to another man.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2013 06:15 PM (LUkGY)

409 Buckley called Gore Vidal a 'pink queer' on ABC in 1968; Vidal reacted badly



Posted by: Momma Said There'd Be Days Like This at December 18, 2013 06:15 PM (omBWL)

410 Sari, nice. Indian puns.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 06:15 PM (aFTxd)

411 FenelonSpoke, 403 - I don't watch it either, but I just bought a "Happy Happy Happy" t-shirt. And a mug.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at December 18, 2013 06:16 PM (x4x3r)

412 Furrdom is not merely a subset of science fiction, seen them at anime conventions.  Though it tends to intersect with kigurumi which is wearing a bodysuit, anime character costume, and a fiberglass mask of the character.  If you are kigurumi, you are also not supposed to talk; ruins the illusion when under that mask a guy speaks.  o.O;

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2013 06:16 PM (IzrCU)

413 404 - Now that would make for some good lesbian scenes.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 18, 2013 06:16 PM (7mQyC)

414 Mrs. Thurston Howell should be played by Denise Richards.

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2013 06:16 PM (HjPtV)

415 404 Scarlett Johannson as Ginger and Mila Kunis as Maryann. Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 18, 2013 10:13 PM (6fSty) Bunktiy bunk bunk BUNK

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 06:16 PM (GEICT)

416 Zombie has some photos of some of the activity that Mr. Robertson was talking about. In the streets of San Francisco, at the "Up Your Alley" fair:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/6cu28x

(This takes you to the landing page; choose censored or uncensored, but neither version is safe for work.)

Tell me again -- how is this normal?

Posted by: Beverly at December 18, 2013 06:16 PM (EyVol)

417 yup I can see it now, the Professor will be an Obama look-alike clone, He can build a website from coconuts, but he can't fix a hole in a boat? Yeah, that sounds like Preezy.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 06:17 PM (MMC8r)

418 I am tired of people who believe in nothing but the indulgence of the id to presume to instruct others on the tenants of their religion

Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 06:17 PM (zOTsN)

419 415 - mmmmmmm.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 18, 2013 06:17 PM (7mQyC)

420 @Chris Loesch I'm opening a "Duck-Phil-A" restaurant tomorrow.

Posted by: Retread at December 18, 2013 06:17 PM (cHwk5)

421 By Indian..... we mean Red Dot and not Feather right?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 18, 2013 06:17 PM (jucos)

422 Posted by: chemjeff at December 18, 2013 10:10 PM (9GG/0) My Guess.... Ginger will be a Black Singer, vice movie star... Mary Ann will be Mary Ann Cunselo Garcia.... an illegal alien who stowed away to get to America.. Professor will be a brilliant Gay guy... Not sure what they'll do with the Howell's... as they were happily married.... probably recently divorced Rich folks, so Luvie can play around...

Posted by: Obama State Dept. at December 18, 2013 06:17 PM (lZBBB)

423 Seriously, some of you guys have a Sikh sense of humor.

Posted by: Piercello at December 18, 2013 06:18 PM (P4dpU)

424 Fuck. Now I want Naan.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 06:19 PM (aFTxd)

425 422 By Indian..... we mean Red Dot and not Feather right? Yes. India= a real country Indian Reservations= never were countries to begin with, now laboring under the laughable delusion of being "Nations."

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 06:19 PM (zeV2E)

426 But you cannot pretend you have no sin because you're awesome and have any expectation of a place in eternity with God. Perios. Full stop. What about if you're FABULOUS? O.K. That was a silly joke. I apologize.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2013 06:19 PM (BC6cY)

427 GregGutfeld ‏@greggutfeld I can't believe my Chinese restaurant said those things about gay people.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 06:20 PM (ZPrif)

428 What's sarong, India? We still love you.

Posted by: loving being a hater at December 18, 2013 06:20 PM (LDsJ6)

429 425 Fuck. Now I want Naan. Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 10:19 PM (aFTxd) With some chicken tikka, lentils and raita.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 06:21 PM (bCEmE)

430 Lamb pasanda

Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 06:21 PM (zOTsN)

431 Maybe if the Robertsons re-named their show Dick Dy-Nasty!  they would be forgiven.  Guest spots by the likes of Elton John and Richard Simmons would be a soothing balm for Teh Gheys too.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 18, 2013 06:21 PM (jucos)

432
Man, a little Kung Pao Chicken sounds appetizing. 

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2013 06:22 PM (MaP11)

433 You know someone will do a gay porno with that title

Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 06:22 PM (zOTsN)

434 Considering that Gore Vidal called Buckley a Nazi I am not surprised that Buckley got a little miffed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2013 06:23 PM (BC6cY)

435 Now I'm Sari I brought up the whole curry thing.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2013 06:23 PM (aFTxd)

436 Fenelon - http://tinyurl.com/lhbzlcg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 18, 2013 06:23 PM (aDwsi)

437 Wow...there's already a FB page: Boycott A&E Until Phil Robertson Is Put Back On Duck Dynasty http://tinyurl.com/kwaxcjn

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 06:23 PM (bCEmE)

438 Considering that Gore Vidal called Buckley a Nazi I am not surprised that Buckley got a little miffed. Posted by: Fenelon --------------- Vidal got off easy, Bill was a fairly good boxer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 18, 2013 06:24 PM (aDwsi)

439 Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2013 10:23 PM (bCEmE) It says they got 20,000 likes in 90 minutes.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2013 06:25 PM (oFCZn)

440 Heh-- Sidebar: Twitchy covers GLAAD going after DD after letting Alec Baldwin slide...

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 06:26 PM (MMC8r)

441 Murg Malai Kabab.  Mmmmmmmmm

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 18, 2013 06:27 PM (jucos)

442 It says they got 20,000 likes in 90 minutes. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2013 10:25 PM (oFCZn) Close to 30K now.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 18, 2013 06:28 PM (bCEmE)

443 Dare I go look for the Sikh Sheik's sixth sheep up thread?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2013 06:28 PM (IzrCU)

444 I predict a run on DD Chia Pets. $15.99 at Home Depot

Posted by: Justamom at December 18, 2013 06:28 PM (Sptt8)

445 Now that I know that no one has seen "Planet Terror", you can disregard Post #341.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 18, 2013 06:29 PM (lq3Ak)

446 So Mr Robertson cannot even express his own opinion based on his reading of the Bible and he gets yanked from his about show that's about his family? Why can't people just be allowed to express their opinion and other people disagree with it without being targeted by the gay mafia?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2013 06:29 PM (BC6cY)

447 Vidal got off easy, Bill was a fairly good boxer.>>

Hey Vidal was a said to be a great clown boxer.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 18, 2013 06:30 PM (TI3xG)

448 Bunktiy bunk bunk BUNK Good point. It sounds like a "Gillgans Isle" remake would be absolute bunk. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2013 06:31 PM (BC6cY)

449 ONT UP!!!

NOOOD!

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 18, 2013 06:31 PM (lq3Ak)

450 If the family walks, what channels would take DD and stand up to the fascists?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 18, 2013 06:31 PM (ZPrif)

451 For fans of Elizabeth Moon, she is holding a contest on her blog.  Two winners will get Advance Reader Copies of the next novel.

http://www.paksworld.com/blog/?p=2046#more-2046

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2013 06:31 PM (IzrCU)

452 448 Vidal got off easy, Bill was a fairly good boxer.>> Hey Vidal was a said to be a great clown boxer. I think Vidal was actually a great catcher.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 06:31 PM (zeV2E)

453 Vidal got off easy, Bill was a fairly good boxer. Vidal called Buckley a "crypto-nazi." Buckley said, "Stop calling me a crypto-nazi, you pinko fag, or I'll sock you in the goddam nose and you'll stay plastered." I think Bill could have done it.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 18, 2013 06:32 PM (JQuNB)

454 Is what he said somehow worse than what Alec Baldwin says

Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 06:33 PM (zOTsN)

455 455 Is what he said somehow worse than what Alec Baldwin says Yes. Because what he said was actually accurate. Liberals hate what the Bible actually says.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 18, 2013 06:34 PM (zeV2E)

456 Now that I know that no one has seen "Planet Terror", you can disregard Post #341. Saw it in the theater originally, found it to be amusingly awful. It's sitting on my DVR, though after your reminder, it'll probably sit there longer.

Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2013 06:34 PM (hO9ad)

457 Is what he said somehow worse than what Alec Baldwin says It's not what they say, it's who they are.

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2013 06:34 PM (MMC8r)

458 Tami the A&E page was coming up but you could no longer get to the article on Phil.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 18, 2013 06:34 PM (KuZ6A)

459 Posted by: Thunderb at December 18, 2013 10:17 PM (zOTsN) Good point.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2013 06:37 PM (BC6cY)

460 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2013 10:29 PM (BC6cY)

Because "SUBMIT!", that's why.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 18, 2013 06:43 PM (o3MSL)

461 I don't watch DD but Ms E. does. Funny thing is, her other favorites are Ancient Aliens and Jeopardy. But yeah, I'm buying t-shirts for all tomorrow.

Posted by: EROWMER at December 18, 2013 06:45 PM (OONaw)

462 Church on Sunday ought to be something.

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2013 06:45 PM (HjPtV)

463 416 404 Scarlett Johannson as Ginger and Mila Kunis as Maryann. Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 18, 2013 10:13 PM (6fSty) Bunktiy bunk bunk BUNK Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 18, 2013 10:16 PM (GEICT) Yes. I do believe I would go see that.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2013 06:55 PM (sdi6R)

464 + 20,000 / - 58 pro Robertson

Posted by: seamrog at December 18, 2013 07:15 PM (y27YU)

465 Here's the logic:  IF the NSA had collected mega data in the period leading up to 9/11, and IF they had been allowed to communicate their findings to the FBI (they were not, under the Gorelick Rule), they could possibly have identified the plotters' movements and communications and known they were up to something, perhaps enough to get warrants to tap them, in which case they might have prevented the attacks.

This is why they are adamant about getting the data.  Whether or not they would ever be able to stop an attack without more direct info beforehand than they had before 9/11 is unclear, but it's why they want it.

Posted by: Adjoran at December 18, 2013 09:46 PM (473jB)

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 19, 2013 12:44 AM (T2V/1)

467

Now, that's not nothing at all, but that is a far, far cry from "prevented terrorist attacks." If it requires spying on everyone to establish a few negative propositions, then this program requires far, far too much.

 

yeah but are they "Poised" to stop some terror attacks?

Posted by: coal power at December 19, 2013 02:42 AM (e1gTJ)

468 I still say that it is probably an example of the unsupervised learning machine learning technique: Anomaly detection what you do is gather mostly good information, then pay special attention to things that fall outside the range of normal. An example would be in manufacturing, say of an engine. If you gather as much data as you can of "good" examples, though it's also fine if a few failures sneak in. The good data gives the computer an understanding of the normal, in a statistical sense, range of data. Things that fall outside of that range aren't necessarily bad- but they do warrant further examination. They get data from everyone, the majority of everyone is "good" for the purpose of the data set. Those detected as bad can be removed, and the parameters can be adjusted until they are part of the set that fall outside of the normal range. If they turn the filter up to high they'll be pointed at too many, too low, they'll miss some, but the point of the whole endeavor is to get a starting point. By itself, the technique won't detect terrorists. But it would point out people who are outside the normal range - even if they are outside the normal range in a way no terrorist has been before. Will they be detected? Investigated? I doubt it would be enough to just look at that one area of behavior, but it would be fairly helpful. I'd think of doing the same if it were my job.. though I'd also not want to do it on the massive potential for abuse.

Posted by: davem at December 19, 2013 07:54 AM (wmzCM)

469 They just parrot what the contractors tell them and, of course, the contractors always have the nation's best interests at heart.

Posted by: mikey at December 19, 2013 08:03 AM (HAWZY)

470 They'd be just thrilled to push the storage behemoth out onto the providers, who also, oh bythe way, must also provide real-time access to their entire traffic stream. The providers, natch, would farm out the huge costs to their customers. But don't say it's a tax!

Posted by: Auntie M at December 19, 2013 02:50 PM (AIC5Z)

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