December 05, 2013

Obama, Get This, Lied: Having Previously Denied Ever Meeting His Drunk Illegal Alien Uncle Omar, Obama Now Remembers He Lived With Him For a While During Law School
— Ace

Are we supposed to believe he forgot living with a man?

It would be one thing if he lived with him as a child. But he lived with him as an adult in law school.

The White House claimed Obama had never so much as met the man. They claim, now, that their previous claim was a mistake or something, because they had "researched" the question and had not found any evidence the two had met.

Instead of just asking Obama. Which they now say just occurred to them to do. And they claim it just occurred to them to ask Obama after a witness with no reason to lie (Omar's landlord) came forward to say that Obama had lived with Omar.

President Obama acknowledged on Thursday that he lived with his Kenyan uncle for a brief period in the 1980s while preparing to attend Harvard Law School, contradicting a statement more than a year ago that the White House had no record of the two ever meeting.

Their relationship came into question on Tuesday at the deportation hearing of his uncle, Onyango Obama, in Boston immigration court. His uncle had lived in the United States illegally since the 1970s and revealed in testimony for the first time that his famous nephew had stayed at his Cambridge apartment for about three weeks. At the time, Onyango Obama was here illegally and fighting deportation.

On Thursday, a White House official said the press office had not fully researched the relationship between the president and his uncle before telling the Globe that they had no record of the two meeting. This time, the press office asked the president directly, which they had not done in 2011.

Roger Simon says he's not a conspiracy theorist, but he's beginning to wonder about this Enigmatic Elegant Liar named Barack Obama.

Around Obama there is an unprecedented silence, almost a media omertà. So much remains unknown about this man, although we do know, through the debate surrounding David Maraniss’s failed and tentative biography, that the president lied about his personal history on multiple occasions in his autobiography Dreams from My Father.

Of course, Bill Ayers — the semi-retired terrorist — has claimed on similarly multiple occasions that he was the true author of Dreams, which would make it a lie about a lie about a lie or something like that. The permutations of this are mindboggling.

Actually let me clear that last claim up, because this has far too much traction on the right: Ayers did not claim he was the true author of Dreams from My Father. He says this, sarcastically, in a bit of rightwing-baiting, because he knows the right suspects him of having authored the book.

See, for example, the below clip, starting at 0:33. He always answers the question in this way.

Now, I happen to think this "conspiracy theory" is true: Bill Ayers is the unacknowledged ghost-writer of Dreams from My Father.

But it's not true that Ayers is "admitting" it. He is sarcastically baiting the right by pretending to admit it.

But in pretending to admit it, he is in fact admitting the truth.

Still, you really can't say he "admitted" it. He is playing around the edges of that, but not actually admitting it.

Posted by: Ace at 10:49 AM | Comments (357)
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1 Lying for the sake of lying is just weird.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 05, 2013 10:50 AM (hLRSq)

2

Woo-Hoo!

 

First!

 

 

*does Snoopy dance*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 05, 2013 10:51 AM (hLRSq)

3 And second.  Dare I try third?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 05, 2013 10:51 AM (hLRSq)

4

Are we supposed to believe he forgot living with a man?

Well, he was baked 97% of the time ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 05, 2013 10:52 AM (8b2sh)

5 And Mikey NTH with the trifecta...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 05, 2013 10:52 AM (wtvvX)

6 No doubt he just found out about it on TV. But, believe him: he's madder than anyone about that!

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at December 05, 2013 10:52 AM (Z0/+C)

7 Thank you for clearing that up about Ayers.  Ayers is a great criminal and it is a disgrace that he is walking around free, but that is no reason to misrepresent what he has said.

Whether or not he co-authored that book is the least thing to be concerned about re: Obama.

Posted by: Jocon307 at December 05, 2013 10:52 AM (7+F2i)

8 The White House is run by incompetents. They are not even good liars.

Posted by: Roy at December 05, 2013 10:53 AM (VndSC)

9 Liar lie.  It's what they do.  Just can't help it.

Posted by: Jimbo at December 05, 2013 10:53 AM (V70Uh)

10 The White House will launch an investigation into why no one told him he had lived with his drunkle.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2013 10:53 AM (Hx5uv)

11 Wait a minute, are you saying Obama lies about his past? I'm shocked by this revelation.

Posted by: dantesed at December 05, 2013 10:53 AM (pjKa9)

12 Matthew 8:17 "For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light. " It may not come to light during Obama's Presidency but these things will come to light.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 10:54 AM (BC6cY)

13 Maybe Obama was stoned for those 3 weeks and forgot.  Yeah, that's the ticket.

Posted by: Hepcat at December 05, 2013 10:54 AM (Q4mug)

14 The right is dumb for caring about who wrote that book.  At best, it's a big "meh", because pretty much all politicians have ghost authors.  At worst, it makes them look like petty lunatics.

Much smarter would be to take Obama at face value as the author of the book, and then attack him for its actual contents.  Make him live by his own rules.

Posted by: sandy burger at December 05, 2013 10:54 AM (6ClcK)

15 I'm not one of those who believe that Obama is, in fact, the Father of Lies, but he sure does seem to be his retarded nephew.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 05, 2013 10:54 AM (TM1p8)

16 It just occurred to me that I did in fact stab the shit out of Nicole and Ron.

Posted by: OJ at December 05, 2013 10:54 AM (6ahup)

17

You remember when truth-telling about one's personal life and how folks governed was expected?

Good times.......Good times........

Posted by: MtTB at December 05, 2013 10:54 AM (8E9QA)

18 I saw Onyango Obama open for Oingo Boingo in Pago Pago in '84...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 05, 2013 10:54 AM (wtvvX)

19 Let's have a truth count instead.  So far, zero.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 10:55 AM (4Fpt9)

20 President Psychopath. I feel safe.

Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2013 10:55 AM (izCt9)

21 I see what you did there Ace, living with a man.

On dear Reggis is soooo hurt.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2013 10:55 AM (iGP6J)

22 MOST TRANSPARENT ADMINISTRATION EVAH!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 05, 2013 10:55 AM (wtvvX)

23 The uncle served his purpose.

He wants to forget ever living with him now.


Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 10:55 AM (GQ8sn)

24
They claim, now, that their previous claim was a mistake or something,




It was a pun.

A PUN?!?

No, no...not a pun...What's that thing that spells the same backwards as forwards?

A palindrome...?

Yeah, that's it!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 05, 2013 10:55 AM (kdS6q)

25 It's going to be interesting to see what comes crawling out into the light starting in 2017, when people start having less of a financial incentive to keep quiet about our Low Information President. I'm thinking an office pool of ten predictions would be kinda fun to tally up in about 2022.

Posted by: Furious George at December 05, 2013 10:56 AM (P85Pz)

26 Now, I happen to think this "conspiracy theory" is true: Bill Ayers is the unacknowledged ghost-writer of Dreams from My Father. But it's not true that Ayers is "admitting" it. He is sarcastically baiting the right by pretending to admit it. But in pretending to admit it, he is in fact admitting the truth. Still, you really can't say he "admitted" it. He is playing around the edges of that, but not actually admitting it. ====== I gotz a headache.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 05, 2013 10:56 AM (bCEmE)

27 This is making my head hurt.

Posted by: yujin at December 05, 2013 10:56 AM (uNd+K)

28 I'm curious, all these drooling idiot Obots -- did any of them have children?  Do they not see Obama lies as much as a five-year old, and just as convincingly?

If only the Republicans had a thimbleful of the spite and nastiness of the Left, they could make President Subeffective look really, REALLY stupid ... I mean even more than he actually is.

But no, the Derpiest Little Dictator just going to get another award for just showing up/get another pass on his serial lying.

Posted by: acethepug at December 05, 2013 10:56 AM (RstmL)

29 I'm not sure this goes in the harmless lie category. Announcing the fact that he not only had an uncle living in the country illegally but that he himself had actually stayed with the guy probably wouldn't have been a plus for Obama electorally.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2013 10:57 AM (g1DWB)

30

The White House is run by incompetents. They are not even good liars.

Yet, we lost to theses dickheads twice.

Posted by: Roland THTG at December 05, 2013 10:57 AM (QM5S2)

31 Jinx

Posted by: yujin at December 05, 2013 10:57 AM (uNd+K)

32 *gives Tami some pretzels*

They are less convoluted than the world Gaylord lives in.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2013 10:57 AM (iGP6J)

33 And you know what hurts? They have lied, constantly, and will never pay a penalty. The media, Ogambe, his henchmen in the IRS and DOJ--all of them. All this damage, all these lies, and they will live their lives happily while we suffer. I've given hope of things getting better for me and my family. All I want to do is drag these fucks down so they can suffer with me, suffer as they have made me and people I love suffer.

Posted by: Jack Nine at December 05, 2013 10:57 AM (0h8aq)

34 Bill Ayers has repeatedly done the classic cheating boyfriend sarcastic admission: Oh, so is that what you want? You want me to admit I cheated on you? Is that what you think in your paranoid fever dreams? Will that make you feel better? Then fine. Yeah, whenever you go on your stupid little business trips I call up my ex-girlfriend and she comes over and we screw each other. Like rabbits. On your bed. On our bed! Is that what you want to hear? Does that make you happy? Then fine! I admit it. I probably also invite the entire Dallas Cheerleader squad over, too. And we have orgies all over the house when you are off visiting your sick mother. I'm just horrible cheating boyfriend who can't be trusted and every time you leave me alone for a few days I'm trolling facebook for all me exes. You got me! Guilt as charged. I'm soooooo sorry!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 10:57 AM (ZPrif)

35

Yet, we lost to theses dickheads twice.

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It doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 10:57 AM (4Fpt9)

36 There is a reasonable explanation. That was back when he was still a Kenyan, before he was (re)born a Hawaiian.
Plus, racism.

Posted by: real joe at December 05, 2013 10:58 AM (qaA9J)

37

I cannot tell a lie.......I actually DID take part in the 9/11 hijackings.

 

*sound of Alex Jones, Nutcase-extraordinaire, shooting himself*

Posted by: Terrorist #19 at December 05, 2013 10:58 AM (8E9QA)

38 Ace, don't know if you are aware, but by my count, Ayers has admitted this three times so far. Here's a link at Investors.com http://tinyurl.com/pqty4m9

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 10:58 AM (bb5+k)

39 the 'lie' that's told as a joke but actually true is a great way to avoid directly lying. like saying "oh we're all married, ha ha" in a bar. the girls hear it as a joke, the guys feel honest, and nature proceeds. anyway he wrote it. imagine how bad it'd be if it were written by obama alone

Posted by: morgan at December 05, 2013 10:58 AM (nvexF)

40 trying to keep track of reality with the Hyde Park Hellions is an exercise in dementia causation or prevention....

not sure which

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 10:58 AM (9jfyN)

41 I Didn't lie. I was....mistaken. Yeah. That's the ticket.

Posted by: Tommy Flanagan, Ex President at December 05, 2013 10:58 AM (ceOhI)

42 And what about Aunt Zytoonie, or whatever the ef her name is. Isn't she here illegally also?

Posted by: Roland THTG at December 05, 2013 10:58 AM (QM5S2)

43 I just remembered we were supposed to investigate and report on improbable things that Obama has claimed. We'll get right on that. Trust us.

Posted by: Neal Marx, American Newsman at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (6ahup)

44

Old measure of Obama's presidency: Worse than Carter?

 

New measure: Could it be any mor ridiculous?

Posted by: Austin in TX at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (3cp3C)

45 >>>4 The right is dumb for caring about who wrote that book. At best, it's a big "meh", because pretty much all politicians have ghost authors. At worst, it makes them look like petty lunatics. If it were established Ayers wrote the book, it would not only disprove Obama's alleged status as a "rara avis" and first rate literary genius, but also establish his close connection to Ayers, a man he claims he just "knew from around the neighborhood." I disagree with your claim this just doesn't matter or is "petty."

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (/FnUH)

46 And his college records are sealed because he applied as a foreign aid student.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (6RwsK)

47 7 Thank you for clearing that up about Ayers. Ayers is a great criminal and it is a disgrace that he is walking around free, but that is no reason to misrepresent what he has said. Whether or not he co-authored that book is the least thing to be concerned about re: Obama. Posted by: Jocon307 at December 05, 2013 02:52 PM (7+F2i) Apparently Ayers has admitted this with some degree of finality this last time around. (Investors.com) http://tinyurl.com/pqty4m9

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (bb5+k)

48 Bill Ayers wrote Obama's autobiography. Obama took forever, doing a half-ass job. Finally he just gave Ayers his notes and crap junior high level scribblings, and Ayers (who's actually a very good writer) crafted them into book form.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (ZPrif)

49 There's gotta be a reason why they lied about this, and it ain't just because Drunk Uncle was an illegal. Things that make me go hmmmm....

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (7ObY1)

50 I cannot tell a lie.......I actually DID shoot JFK, myself, because he wasn't a Communist.

*sound of Oliver Stone, Nutcase-extraordinaire, shooting himself*

Posted by: Lee Harvey Oswald at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (8E9QA)

51 He lies to us for our own good, not merely out of cowardice. Why can't you let Obama love you???

Posted by: Obamapologists at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (MMC8r)

52 Reason #2539 why you don't elect someone with a murky past to be president.

He lies or obfuscates about things that don't even matter. Seriously, why lie about meeting your uncle? Not many people who don't have at least one embarrassing relative.

Posted by: La Raza at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (JRmiD)

53 Ayers' authorship of the book is made more probable by the lack of spelling errors within.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (4Fpt9)

54 I would also suggest reading the evidence for the claim, which I've now linked in the post. The evidence is circumstantial but strong.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (/FnUH)

55 It depends on what your definition of 'liar' is.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 05, 2013 10:59 AM (lXWHC)

56 @14 The reason ppl focus on the authorship issue is b/c Obama acted like he barely knew Ayers... Iow he did not "pal around" with him. Personally, I've concluded the American people are so enamored of the idea of forgiving past transgressions that it wouldn't matter ine way or the other, especially now.

Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2013 11:00 AM (+xKk0)

57

Time to push the Reset button!

 

Lets start this way:  what is true about Barack Obama?  For example, do we know with any confidence that his name is Barack Obama?

Posted by: Hillary at December 05, 2013 11:00 AM (B5y+v)

58

I've been saying it all along, the lies we will learn about Obama after he leaves office will stagger us only slightly less than will the fact the media knew it all along.

 

 

I'm betting the PLCS was at most a C- at Columbia, and a 50th percentile LSAT, and an affirmative action invite onto the Law Review.


BTW, would someone, somewhere please post what it took to earn the magna cum laude academic honor from Harvard Law in 1991?  I've looked and have never been able to find it.


Have any Presidents of the Law Review (as distinct from the Editors) ever not graduated  magna cum laude ?


 

Posted by: Powderhouse Rules at December 05, 2013 11:00 AM (Xv7f/)

59 27 This is making my head hurt. Obama makes my "you know what" hurt.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 05, 2013 11:00 AM (ceOhI)

60 46 And his college records are sealed because he applied as a foreign aid student. That. And, because his grades were average to below average. Which would destroy the MFM's carefully constructed narrative.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 05, 2013 11:00 AM (7ObY1)

61

"So much remains unknown about this man, although we do know, through the debate surrounding David MaranissÂ’s failed and tentative biography, that the president lied about his personal history on multiple occasions in his autobiography Dreams from My Father."

 

 

We also know that he will lie when the truth would be easier or even more helpful.  We can now  safely conclude that he lied about the 'plans and doctors' rather then being mistaken.  If he tells you that the sky is blue, you better verify it.  A large part of the power of the presidency is the 'bully pulpit', the ability of the president to persuade others to follow him.  The power of the  bully pulpit is based in the office of the presidency, but also in the credibility of the president.  And now when Obama needs the bully pulpit more than ever* he has been eroding the one thing he needs to make it work.  It is self-destructive behavior on a grand scale and no, do not any one tell him to stop.

 

*This is the only power of the presidency that he ever seems to work.  He can't or won't do the actual retail politics of working Congress as other presidents have.  He is just one odd duck all the way around.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 05, 2013 11:01 AM (hLRSq)

62 It matters that Obama lied about Ayers. It matters that Obama lied about writing his own autobiography. It matters that an admitted anti-American terrorist bomber like Ayers wrote Obama's autobiography.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 11:01 AM (ZPrif)

63 Posted by: ace at December 05, 2013 02:59 PM (/FnUH) Well stated, Ace. Ayers ghost writing the book is not just a big "meh". Jack Cashill is quite convincing in the evidence for it and it does matter for the reasons you stated.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 11:01 AM (BC6cY)

64 Lying for the sake of lying is just weird.

I've known a couple of truly pathological liars.  They're disturbing to deal with, and I try to avoid them as much as possible. 

Its hard to spot them initially.  You have to wait until their stories start to conflict or they tell baldfaced lies about something you have specific personal knowledge of.


Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 05, 2013 11:01 AM (L0b3J)

65 Ayers' authorship of the book is made more probable by the lack of spelling errors within. And the lack of 'um' dominating every page.

Posted by: --- at December 05, 2013 11:01 AM (MMC8r)

66 D-Lamp, no, that's the same statement I have now put up as a video in the post. I've been watching videos of him "admit" this for three years. It's always sarcastic.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2013 11:01 AM (/FnUH)

67 In other words, the WH put out a statement that Obama knew was false and he said nothing about it.

Posted by: wiserbud at December 05, 2013 11:01 AM (NXg/k)

68 and me with no popcorn in the house.

Posted by: redenzo at December 05, 2013 11:01 AM (xPV5o)

69 Bill Ayers has screwed all of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders? Big deal. Now screwing all of the Dallas Cowboys--that's when it gets more interesting.

Posted by: Barack and Reggie at December 05, 2013 11:01 AM (P85Pz)

70 Second look at Larry Sinclair's claims?

Posted by: Ben at December 05, 2013 11:02 AM (ogVWw)

71

At this point WHAT DIFFERENCE does it make?

I ain't no ways tired.........am I, Huma honey? And I don't mean my tongue, either!  *witch-like cackling*

Posted by: Shrillary Clinton at December 05, 2013 11:02 AM (8E9QA)

72 The right is dumb for caring about who wrote that book. At best, it's a big "meh", because pretty much all politicians have ghost authors. At worst, it makes them look like petty lunatics.

Posted by: sandy burger

Would you knowingly vote for a pathological liar?

Is it a good thing for the country to have one as president?

The media did not do their job. The man is a fraud from cover to cover.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 05, 2013 11:02 AM (uCNam)

73 Wait, so why is Obama lying about this? To avoid some piddling appearance of conflict of interest in the deportation hearing? The man rewrites laws on the fly and nobody blinks. He rewrote bankruptcy law and screwed GM investors in ways Bernie Madoff can only dream of. Is this just another case of Obama throwing up mountains of chaff whenever someone tries to nail down his past?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2013 11:02 AM (6qlHs)

74 Is Uncle Imayoyo a muslim?

Posted by: --- at December 05, 2013 11:02 AM (MMC8r)

75

 

Uh ... Let's look at this thing from a... um .. from a standpoint of status. What do we got on [Obama] that's good?

Posted by: Gene Krantz at December 05, 2013 11:03 AM (Xv7f/)

76 What difference, at this point, does it make anyway???!1!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 05, 2013 11:03 AM (f9c2L)

77 Sometimes I take a step back and stand completely in awe that this man was elected twice as president of the freaking USofA. How the hell did we let this happen?

Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2013 11:03 AM (hFL/3)

78 In "Dreams" lyin' Barry claims his Marxist daddy's coffin was draped with the American flag.

Um.  Yeah. 

Some day we'll learn the whole truth about this jugeared, lying, malignant narcissist.  The the whole country, and world, will reel. 

At least, that's my hope.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2013 11:03 AM (lVPtV)

79

I saw Onyango Obama open for Oingo Boingo in Pago Pago in '84...

 

 

Ali Farka Tour played guitar for Onyango  on that tour.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2013 11:04 AM (lXWHC)

80 Honestly, we ARE going to run in 2014 on Ayers writing Barry's auto-biography!  I'm glad you asked.......

Posted by: Debbie WTF-Schultz at December 05, 2013 11:04 AM (8E9QA)

81 I gotz a headache.
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Harry Reid says that Boehner will cave on amnesty. Reid always lies so that means that Boehner will not cave on amnesty but we all know that Boehner will cave on amnesty but Reid always lies so . . . .

Ohhhhh. My brain hurts.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2013 11:04 AM (Hx5uv)

82 45 Ace,

Ace you're assuming a plurality of Americans are:

a) bothered by serial dissembling from their guy

b) at all bothered by liberal domestic terrorists.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 11:04 AM (9jfyN)

83 14 The right is dumb for caring about who wrote that book. At best, it's a big "meh", because pretty much all politicians have ghost authors. At worst, it makes them look like petty lunatics. Posted by: sandy burger at December 05, 2013 02:54 PM (6ClcK) You don't recall all the pointed headed intellectuals (Chris Buckley) proclaiming Obama to be a "Rara Avis" and deciding he was the smartest fuck ever to be President? It was on the basis of that book that all these pointy headed intellectuals thought Obama was smart. Show them that Obama was actually to dumb to be able to write a book and you undermine their original argument for supporting him. It gives them an intellectual out for being misled by him and has the potential to turn them against him. Sure, it's not a major tactic, but don't think it doesn't undermine Obama among the Buckleys. An Avalanche may begin as a few rocks falling.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:04 AM (bb5+k)

84 14 The right is dumb for caring about who wrote that book. At best, it's a big "meh", because pretty much all politicians have ghost authors. At worst, it makes them look like petty lunatics. ...... Posted by: sandy burger at December 05, 2013 02:54 PM (6ClcK) True. JFK got a Pulitzer Prize for a book written by Ted Sorensen. Most books written by politicians, musicians, actors, and so on are written with ghost writers. I just think that it would be much more honest of them to admit this. I believe that McCain lists a person as a co-author, which is more than most do.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 05, 2013 11:04 AM (6da/j)

85 73 Wait, so why is Obama lying about this? It's the part about the SCOAMF living with Drunk Uncle "while preparing to attend Harvard Law School" that makes me go hmmmmm....

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 05, 2013 11:04 AM (7ObY1)

86 But there's nothing to be done about these lies. The more important lies are "if you like your doctor" and Benghazi. And the IRS.

Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2013 11:04 AM (+xKk0)

87

How the hell did we let this happen?

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I suggest we ask that of certain    Secretaries of State,  in perhaps     Florida, Virginia, Iowa, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Colorado

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 11:04 AM (4Fpt9)

88 At this point, if Barky says, "Good morning," I'd fact check him.

Posted by: Retread at December 05, 2013 11:04 AM (ojOys)

89 77Sometimes I take a step back and stand completely in awe that this man was elected twice as president of the freaking USofA. How the hell did we let this happen?

Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2013 03:03 PM"

George Soros had a LOT of $$, that's how........

Posted by: Debbie WTF-Schultz at December 05, 2013 11:05 AM (8E9QA)

90 Each individual lie and omission can be and is shrugged off as no big deal; however, we're long past the point of having such an accumulation of lies and hidden information that his character can be legitimately questioned.
Not that it matters after his re-election.
At this point I'm just wondering how much has been truly memory-holed vs. will eventually leak out.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2013 11:05 AM (JRmiD)

91 49 Blue State Rebel,

maybe... of course Obama has governed in easy mode his whole term...he lies because he can in the same way I breathe because I must.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 11:05 AM (9jfyN)

92 By now all intelligence services around the world have produced personality profiles of Obama for their nations diplomats and leadership.

Now they all understand the US has a DSM diagnosable sociopath as president and will act accordingly.  Not just a guy who bends the truth sometimes or has a big ego -- there's tons of those, no, a genuine sociopath.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 05, 2013 11:05 AM (L0b3J)

93 Barky isa lying sack of shit. Barky lied, health care died.

Posted by: Killerdog at December 05, 2013 11:06 AM (DR+i1)

94 I think I am angrier at the press and the 52% who don't care about the lies, so long as their Dear Leader is in power. That is what really frightens me-that 52% of the American people are okay with a socialist serial-liar, who goes to bed when Americans are dying in an Embassy attack so that he can party with Jay-Z and Beyonce, as the head of state. Heaven help us.

Posted by: moki at December 05, 2013 11:06 AM (EvHC8)

95 His old Auntie Zeituni (or however the hell you spell the crone's name) is still living on the public dole in Beantown.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2013 11:06 AM (lVPtV)

96 Oh, and holding TFG responsible for his lies is RACIST.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 05, 2013 11:06 AM (6da/j)

97 When is Obama going to apologize to Joe Wilson?

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2013 11:06 AM (lXWHC)

98 He's been running away from his family and roots all his life. Has he ever talked about his mother? His father who tossed him aside? He ran his grandmother over. Why would his uncle be different? Keeping hands "clean." Of dirt. Of history. Of truth.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 05, 2013 11:06 AM (IXrOn)

99 "I suggest we ask that of certain Secretaries of State, in perhaps Florida, Virginia, Iowa, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Colorado

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 03:04 PM"

 

Actually, just look at their net worth and/or bank accounts, both before and after the elections.

Posted by: MtTB at December 05, 2013 11:06 AM (8E9QA)

100 70+ posts in, and nothing...

You Morons are slipping.

Posted by: The Scorpion at December 05, 2013 11:06 AM (bvtgt)

101 Remember, when Barack Obama is done, Barry Soetero still has eight years of eligibility.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 05, 2013 11:07 AM (ZshNr)

102 ace:
>> The evidence is circumstantial but strong.

And if you ever did find actual smoking gun evidence, Obama would laugh it off on the Jon Stewart show or something, saying "well, all politicians have ghost authors".  End of issue.

>> If it were established Ayers wrote the book, it would not only disprove Obama's alleged status as a "rara avis" and first rate literary genius, but also establish his close connection to Ayers, a man he claims he just "knew from around the neighborhood."

I just don't see how you manage get that through to a low information voter.

I think it's better to just beat him up for the actual contents of the book, something he really can't disavow.

The "composite" people, the provable falsehoods, the anti-American and racist worldview, all that material is there for the taking...

Posted by: sandy burger at December 05, 2013 11:07 AM (6ClcK)

103 Is there a Pathological Liars Society?  Because when Obama's no longer President of the United States, he can become President of that.

Posted by: Hepcat at December 05, 2013 11:07 AM (Q4mug)

104 As I always said, if you like your autobiography, you can keep your autobiography.

Posted by: --- at December 05, 2013 11:07 AM (MMC8r)

105 It looks like we were myzled again.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 05, 2013 11:07 AM (wNF3N)

106 If it were established Ayers wrote the book, it would not only disprove Obama's alleged status as a "rara avis" and first rate literary genius, but also establish his close connection to Ayers, a man he claims he just "knew from around the neighborhood." I disagree with your claim this just doesn't matter or is "petty." Posted by: ace at December 05, 2013 02:59 PM (/FnUH) Ha! That's what I said. You just used fewer words.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:07 AM (bb5+k)

107

Soothsayer, you magnificent bastard, I just went all Tom Cotton on you from yesterday.

 

I am disappointed with his NSA and Syria positions but hopefully he will review the same and come around.

Posted by: prescient11 at December 05, 2013 11:08 AM (u+Dc+)

108 93 By now all intelligence services around the world have produced personality profiles of Obama for their nations diplomats and leadership.

Now they all understand the US has a DSM diagnosable sociopath as president and will act accordingly. Not just a guy who bends the truth sometimes or has a big ego -- there's tons of those, no, a genuine sociopath.

Posted by: Purp at December 05, 2013 03:05 PM (L0b3J)



Yep.  We're living in dangerous times, and I'm afraid it will not end well.



Thanks, 52%ers, you mouthbreathing fucks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2013 11:08 AM (lVPtV)

109 Just characterize Ayers as the son of a utility executive.  Verrrrrrry revolutionary.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 05, 2013 11:08 AM (GSOU+)

110 And from what I've read, Ayers writes like shit. (oooo---YACHTING metaphors!)

Posted by: --- at December 05, 2013 11:08 AM (MMC8r)

111 If it were established Ayers wrote the book, it would not only disprove Obama's alleged status as a "rara avis" and first rate literary genius, but also establish his close connection to Ayers, a man he claims he just "knew from around the neighborhood."

Exactly.  Also, everything about Obama can reasonably be assumed at this point to be a lie, but it's always nice to have concrete proof.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2013 11:08 AM (B/VB5)

112 The evidence is circumstantial but strong. Posted by: ace at December 05, 2013 02:59 PM (/FnUH) I've read Jack Cashill's book. (Indeed, autographed.) No question in my mind that Ayers wrote it.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:09 AM (bb5+k)

113 Pro tip: He lies about everything.

Posted by: boniface ballers at December 05, 2013 11:09 AM (l3RZ9)

114 Obama is in the realm of someone who just lies reflexively. It reminds me of a Norm MacDonald routine where he sometimes lies and then realizes "I have nothing to gain from this lie." "Did I see the new Merrill Streep movie? Of course I did." "Why did I say that?" That's Obama.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 05, 2013 11:09 AM (zeV2E)

115 109- that was beautifully said.

Posted by: moki at December 05, 2013 11:09 AM (EvHC8)

116 72 weft cut-loop at December 05, 2013 03:02 PM (uCNam)


Yes the media willfully did not do their job Weft...it is why Diogenes Lamp and I fully support having the media forced to have their dentists on speed dial.

The thing is no GOP politician will attack the media, the American people will not punish the media by doing the opposite of their narrative so here we sit.

Enjoy the lutefisk....

//Chef Sven

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 11:09 AM (9jfyN)

117 No point in asking his publicist that had him being born in Kenya for the 16 before his senate run...

Posted by: DanMan at December 05, 2013 11:09 AM (RusNE)

118 I didn't know that I lived with my uncle until I saw it on the news.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 05, 2013 11:09 AM (qBGUl)

119 This is so untrue.

Obama never lived with his uncle. He was staying with me and T-bone.

Posted by: Cory Booker at December 05, 2013 11:09 AM (bvtgt)

120 What's with the concern troll telling us we shouldn't be caring about the Obama-Ayers connection?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 11:10 AM (ZPrif)

121 Are we sure Barry is even married to a woman?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2013 11:10 AM (lVPtV)

122 >>Whether or not he co-authored that book is the least thing to be concerned about re: Obama.<<

I think it's a HUGE deal. Obama had no significant accomplishments that we know of since he will not release any record of his past, nor will the press dig into it.

Pretty much all we know of him...supposedly...is through his "autobiographies", which he continually bragged about writing himself.

We are finding out they are really merely fictions, but more importantly , he now know actually failed at the one thing there is record of and had to be rescued by Ayers

Posted by: Albie Damned at December 05, 2013 11:10 AM (cGaCp)

123 That. And, because his grades were average to below average. Which would destroy the MFM's carefully constructed narrative. Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 05, 2013 03:00 PM (7ObY1) I think this is the more likely truth. Obama admitted his grades were terrible in High School. Why would we expect his college grades to be better?

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:10 AM (bb5+k)

124 'Drunkle' is the most cromulent word of the week.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at December 05, 2013 11:10 AM (QupBk)

125 And from what I've read, Ayers writes like shit.

From a strictly craft perspective, you could do a lot worse than Dreams.  It's certainly better than what you'd expect from President Inhalator.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2013 11:10 AM (B/VB5)

126

>>>And they claim it just occurred to them to ask Obama after a witness with no reason to lie (Omar's landlord) came forward to say that Obama had lived with Omar.

.

.

.IRS audit stat!

Posted by: Registered voter at December 05, 2013 11:10 AM (KNVkk)

127 Dems are so used to lying, it is like breathing to them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2013 11:10 AM (t3UFN)

128 "It would be one thing if he lived with him as a child. But he lived with him as an adult in law school."
No!   He was a child in law school, and a child today.
Hallucinations of a composite.

Posted by: jb at December 05, 2013 11:10 AM (bd5BN)

129

So we have this shitty "portal" built for 600 million or more.

Where the fuck did all that money go???

Very strange, huh?


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 05, 2013 11:10 AM (xggaJ)

130 I'm learning new things about me almost every day.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at December 05, 2013 11:11 AM (A7zvX)

131 Alternate post title: obama Lubricates Some More, Oval Office Running Smoother Than Ever (in case you forget the post " Plus Ça Change: Left Media Is Now Going Back to Clinton Playbook, Declaring Of Course Presidents Lie, You Idiots, and That's a Good Thing")

Posted by: soothsayer at December 05, 2013 11:11 AM (EaMja)

132 Is there a Pathological Liars Society? Because when Obama's no longer President of the United States, he can become President of that. Posted by: Hepcat at December 05, 2013 03:07 PM ____________ UN General Assembly.

Posted by: Furious George at December 05, 2013 11:11 AM (P85Pz)

133 Yea, I do think people are very bothered that it is becoming beyond obvious that Obama is a serial liar. He and his sycophants were able to hold anyone who challenged him at bay for years by calling them a racist. But its not working anymore. This was always going to happen when Obamacare went live. He could lie through his teeth about it and the msm would cover his ass before it was implemented. But now that it is real and people are realizing that it is nothing close to what he promised the scales are falling in a big way. The singly most damaging poll issue I have seen in the last couple weeks is that a majority of people no longer consider Obama honest. That is death to a guy who is all about image over substance. He won't be able to get away with his airy bullshit anymore, speeches ain't cutting it. People want to see the facts now and Obama and facts have no relationship.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2013 11:11 AM (g1DWB)

134 I always liked the phrase - Obama is a mother's revenge on the country she hated.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 11:11 AM (ZPrif)

135 Alright guys. I admit it. I wrote 'Dreams from my Father'. But I did not write Jimmy Carter's 'malaise' speech. Pinky swear. Now turn your thermostats down and put on a sweater you ungrateful rubes.

Posted by: Chris Matthews (hiccup)[/i] at December 05, 2013 11:12 AM (OPROh)

136 I still love seeing 'get this' in the headline.

I chuckle every time.  Every.  Single.  Time.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 05, 2013 11:12 AM (fwARV)

137
34.  Does that really work?

Posted by: Billy from Hope at December 05, 2013 11:12 AM (Xv7f/)

138 Why would he lie about even knowing his Uncle? Because it is still a felony to knowingly help an illegal stay in the country. Thus, along with his Choom use, showing a Pattern of not following the law when it is inconvenient.... which is NOT a trait you want in the guy who in charge of Enforcing the Law, and Defending the Constitution. Why admit now? It no longer matters as he will NOT be impeached, and has no more elections to win.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2013 11:12 AM (lZBBB)

139 Is there anyone, anyone, in obama's family that actually likes him or better yet really knows him?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2013 11:12 AM (t3UFN)

140

I figure we'll get all the background crap in 3 years or so, won't really matter then as it doesn't now.   No election for him to face.

But yeah, boggles the mind he would lie about something so relatively insignificant.

Still mind boggling is the total uninterest of the media even discussing his daily deceptions.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2013 11:13 AM (caCiW)

141 I was listening to an interview with the former Secret Service agent who quit and has been trying to run for the Senate (and I cannot think of his name now to save my life).

He said Obama doesn't seem to have any close friends. 

TFG just comes across as creepy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2013 11:13 AM (lVPtV)

142 Here's a question. If Obama had a drug incident that went public, such as nearly ODing in the WH, would that affect him? Would ppl care or not? I think we'll find out that JFK was a piker compared to this dude.

Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2013 11:13 AM (+xKk0)

143 The Barkhenatening is nigh.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2013 11:13 AM (lXWHC)

144 CNN: You might say lying is the verbal lubricant that keeps the Oval Office engine running. -- Nov 2013

Posted by: soothsayer at December 05, 2013 11:13 AM (EaMja)

145 @143: Dan Bongino?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2013 11:13 AM (B/VB5)

146 But why would he lie about this? If the drunkle was in town, and Sparky was waiting on his place to be ready, it's perfectly reasonable they stay together a few weeks. Especially since Sparky hadn't spent time with him before (presumably). So why the lies? How does it hurt the drunkle or Sparky to have met at that time?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2013 11:13 AM (6qlHs)

147 I don't think you should be shocked by politicians lying obsessively, even when there is little or nothing to gain from lying.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 05, 2013 11:13 AM (B5y+v)

148 Obama only admitted it now because the landlord testified in court.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 11:14 AM (ZPrif)

149 Oh, uncle Onyango, sure, I lived with him.  I thought you asked me if I ever had lumbago.

Posted by: Hepcat at December 05, 2013 11:14 AM (Q4mug)

150 He's an uncle fucker.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 05, 2013 11:14 AM (ZshNr)

151 heh @ verbal lubricant kinda like...venom... from a serpent.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 05, 2013 11:14 AM (EaMja)

152 George Washington -- "I can not tell a lie."

SCOAMT -- "I can not not tell a lie."

Posted by: pathetic at December 05, 2013 11:14 AM (bvtgt)

153 Now, I happen to think this "conspiracy theory" is true: Bill Ayers is the unacknowledged ghost-writer of Dreams from My Father. But it's not true that Ayers is "admitting" it. He is sarcastically baiting the right by pretending to admit it. But in pretending to admit it, he is in fact admitting the truth. Clown nose on. Clown nose off.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 05, 2013 11:14 AM (VtjlW)

154 The thing is no GOP politician will attack the media, the American people will not punish the media by doing the opposite of their narrative so here we sit. Enjoy the lutefisk.... //Chef Sven Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 03:09 PM (9jfyN) I'm thinking that Obamacare is going to stir up a hornets nest of hatred. I'm hoping we can stampede it at the media after it gets finished with Obama. The media being controlled by Democrats is the larger national problem anyway.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:14 AM (bb5+k)

155 I read Cashill's book. He makes a compelling case that Obama did not write the book. He makes almost as compelling a case that Ayers did.

Posted by: USA at December 05, 2013 11:15 AM (VIaw0)

156 I was listening to an interview with the former Secret Service agent who quit and has been trying to run for the Senate (and I cannot think of his name now to save my life). He said Obama doesn't seem to have any close friends. TFG just comes across as creepy. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2013 03:13 PM (lVPtV) Sure he does. He has the one friend in Hawaii who keeps getting picked up for frequenting prostitutes. He plays golf with him every time he is out there and they wash their balls together

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2013 11:15 AM (t3UFN)

157 I wish Obama had lived there longer, I'm sure the landlord would have plenty of stories.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 05, 2013 11:15 AM (ZshNr)

158 If Obama had a drug incident that went public, such as nearly ODing in the WH, would that affect him? Would ppl care or not? Of course people would care. We need to start a national dialogue on how horrible it is that we still allow drug dealers to sell to vulnerable minorities! There should be a law!

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 05, 2013 11:15 AM (QF8uk)

159 147 @143: Dan Bongino?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2013 03:13 PM (B/VB5)



Yeah, that's him.  I need to get his book.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2013 11:15 AM (lVPtV)

160 If he didn't lie about meeting his uncle, people might have thought it, I don't know, appropriate to do something to help him along the way.

Posted by: ejo at December 05, 2013 11:15 AM (GXvSO)

161 >>>141 Are we sure Barry is even married to a woman? ------------------ Outlook not so good

Posted by: Magic 8-Ball at December 05, 2013 11:16 AM (A7zvX)

162 Obama I's chief, and really, only, ability, is to "be there" when a stiff / puppet is needed. He has no other useful ability, and therefore no accomplishments. Everything has been given to him: admission to Columbia and Harvard, a choom stipend from his mother's mother, graduation from both, a memoir or two (clearly beyond his writing ability), offices that merely demand that he show up enough, a campaign machine, speechwriters and handlers. Of course Obama I is bored; he's never had any responsibility ... until now. Now, he has to face the results of his limited ability: ObamaCare is a titanic disaster. Too bad he didn't clean up at least some of the loos ends that stick to his shoe. His aunt and uncle should have been quietly deported in January 2009; he could have blamed BOOOOSSH. Ayres and Wright should have been told to shut up about everything. Rezko ... I expect the Chicago Mansion to eventually resurface. The Fool and his handlers seem unable to do anything Wright.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 05, 2013 11:16 AM (FlRtG)

163 but Romney put a dog on the car roof.

Posted by: redenzo at December 05, 2013 11:16 AM (xPV5o)

164 Are we supposed to believe he forgot living with a man? Well he'll never forget living with me.

Posted by: Reggie Love at December 05, 2013 11:16 AM (0FSuD)

165 Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2013 03:11 PM (g1DWB) I'm waiting for the legal gyrations that will need to be done when it is proven that Everything the President has signed, was signed with the wrong legal name... He was adopted... that is uncontested. His name changed during the adoption, and there is NO legal paperwork changing it back... somehow Barry Soetoro got on an airplane in Indonesia, and Barrak Obama got off...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2013 11:16 AM (lZBBB)

166 Today's press: We are all Ron Burgundy.

Posted by: USA at December 05, 2013 11:16 AM (VIaw0)

167

Hi, Margery.  George Costanza...

...If Mr. Tomasulo needs me, tell him, "I'M IN MY OFFICE!".

Posted by: George Costanza at December 05, 2013 11:17 AM (lXWHC)

168 @ 141 Official White House Seamstress - Does FLOTUS dress left or right?

Posted by: teh Wind at December 05, 2013 11:17 AM (B3WUC)

169 President Obama acknowledged on Thursday that he lived with his Kenyan uncle for a brief period in the 1980s while preparing to attend Harvard Law School, You know how I "prepared" to attend Rutgers Math School? I worked summer jobs for a temp agency. How do you "prepare" to attend law school? Learn the stuff you should have learned at Columbia if you had actually gone to classes?

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2013 11:17 AM (xSegX)

170


Should start a pool.



Most  shocking  facts  about  Obama's  real  biography  revealed  in  the  first  ten  years  after  he  leaves  office.


I'll start.

 

He never took the LSAT.  Harvard  admitted  him  without  it.

Posted by: Charles George Gordon at December 05, 2013 11:18 AM (Xv7f/)

171 >>>I just don't see how you manage get that through to a low information voter. Not everything is for purposes of political messaging. Facts are facts whether politically exploitable or not. Further, there may well be more evidence that could prove this. Hardly anyone has looked into it. Again, Read the Cashill articles. He employs all the standard methods of proving authorship for disputed texts, the same sort of stuff people use to prove Shakespeare was really Francis Bacon or the like. I don't necessarily endorse that particular theory. But it's not as if he's going on flights of fancy. His evidence, as I say, is circumstantial, but strong. As far as mechanical things that a computer can "fingerprint" (sentence length, ease of reading, etc.) Dreams From My Father is much closer to Fugitive Days than to Audacity of Hope. As far as things only a human can evaluate, like general style, the book is more like a Bill Ayers book. The big tell is "Obama's" predilection for nautical metaphors -- something Ayers is quite fond of. But Ayers was a merchant marine, and thus we know why Ayers would have an active vocabulary including such ideas as neap tides and other maritime terminology. It's not clear why Obama, who had never sailed or been on a boat, would find himself so fluent in maritime metaphors.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2013 11:18 AM (/FnUH)

172 There's that former classmate who claims Barry presented himself as a foreign student at Occidental.

I guess we'll never know what passport he traveled to Pokeeeston on.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2013 11:18 AM (lVPtV)

173

The press must be turning towards honest reporting, albeit reluctantly.  Only if a reporter told the WH press people he or she was going to report this lie ( and that reporters employer backed him or her up on the decision ) would Obama admit this lie proactively.

 

 

This is good.

Posted by: MTF at December 05, 2013 11:18 AM (B5y+v)

174

How do you "prepare" to attend law school?

 

Also known as, establishing residency.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2013 11:18 AM (lXWHC)

175

As to the book...

The idiot "wrote" TWO autobiographies.

Who the fuck does that?

I look at his shit on Amazon and it just creeps me out.



Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 05, 2013 11:19 AM (xggaJ)

176 Ace:  With regard to your politics as religion posting yesterday, pick up a copy of    Earthly Powers, by Michael Burleigh

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 11:19 AM (4Fpt9)

177 So, we've got: - Auntie Zatuni, who famously said that the US OWES her a comfortable living while on welfare and staying here illegally, - Uncle Onyango, who now receives full citizenship after being outed as an illegal because of his serial drunk driving, and - George Obama, who we know couldn't loose a nickel from his half brother for life-saving surgery for his daughter. I'm really starting to think the Obamas are just a pack of cheats and losers. But thank God we didn't elect Romney, because binders of women, or something.

Posted by: red speck at December 05, 2013 11:19 AM (9/Ug/)

178 150 Obama only admitted it now because the landlord testified in court. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 03:14 PM (ZPrif) This is what I think too. As long as it was just his Uncle's word against his, he could deny it. When a man swears to it in court, he has to do the "Oh yeah, I forgot." Excuse.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:19 AM (bb5+k)

179 isnt there something somewhere about satan being the father of lies and that he cant not lie and that you can tell if satan is lying because his lips are moving?

Posted by: sound awake at December 05, 2013 11:19 AM (pk/NG)

180 Our Low Information President most certainly did not lie about eating a dog.

Posted by: Rin Tin Tin at December 05, 2013 11:19 AM (P85Pz)

181

What's interesting about this stuff is that what Obama is doing here, essentially denying he knew a guy, is  EXACTLY what got Alger Hiss convicted of perjury. 

 

Of course, nobody is going to put Barak Obama  under oath, but still, it's the same lie. 

 

How times have changed...

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2013 11:20 AM (TOk1P)

182 Is this an uncle or an 'uncle?'

Posted by: --- at December 05, 2013 11:20 AM (MMC8r)

183


"It's not clear why Obama, who had never sailed or been on a boat, would find himself so fluent in maritime metaphors. "

Dude promised he will raise the sea, that's not enough for you?


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 05, 2013 11:20 AM (xggaJ)

184 I  think  the  real  news  here  is  that   Uncle  Omar  has  been  drunk  for  forty  years  and  isn't  dead  yet.   There  is  hope  for  us  all.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at December 05, 2013 11:21 AM (w41GQ)

185 176 How do you "prepare" to attend law school? Also known as, establishing residency. Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2013 03:18 PM (lXWHC) Not needed, Harvard is private.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 05, 2013 11:21 AM (0FSuD)

186 Hey, I spent the night at a LOT of guys' houses back then! No, really, a lot. Many, many.

Posted by: Sweet Barry at December 05, 2013 11:21 AM (MMC8r)

187 176 How do you "prepare" to attend law school? _______ I got drunk a lot.

Posted by: Furious George at December 05, 2013 11:22 AM (P85Pz)

188 off textile sock

Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2013 11:22 AM (nELVU)

189 JFK didn't write "Profiles in Courage" either.

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2013 11:22 AM (zqvg6)

190 Everybody lies about their drunkle.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2013 11:22 AM (Hx5uv)

191

We have a gambrel installed with block and tackle to pull shit up over ...... it's..... hips.

 

Then we strap it down with a giant belt.

Posted by: White House Structural Dress Engineer at December 05, 2013 11:22 AM (lXWHC)

192 188 I think the real news here is that Uncle Omar has been drunk for forty years and isn't dead yet. There is hope for us all.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at December 05, 2013 03:21 PM (w41GQ)


You're one of those people who always find the silver lining, aren't you?!

Posted by: kathysaysso at December 05, 2013 11:23 AM (6H6o8)

193 I read Cashill's book. He makes a compelling case that Obama did not write the book. He makes almost as compelling a case that Ayers did. Posted by: USA at December 05, 2013 03:15 PM (VIaw0) Didn't Cashill use roughly the same linguistic analysis that was used to reveal that JK Rowling wrote The Cuckoo's Calling?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 05, 2013 11:23 AM (VtjlW)

194 So who will have the most fun with this? O'R? Kelly? Hannity? Or Leno?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 05, 2013 11:23 AM (0FSuD)

195 He lies easily about stuff he has no reason to lie about. Must be a Lefty

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at December 05, 2013 11:23 AM (pginn)

196 He prepared for law school the same way generations of fine young American men have. Backpacking with his boyfriends in Pakistan.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 05, 2013 11:24 AM (ZshNr)

197

He's an uncle fucker.

 

MMMPHH!!MMMPPHHHH!!!

Posted by: Harry Reid's Nephew at December 05, 2013 11:24 AM (BrQrN)

198

Not needed, Harvard is private.

 

Well, then...

Maybe he just needed a place to crash until he found a Sugar Daddy he could blow for Coke?

Posted by: White House Structural Dress Engineer at December 05, 2013 11:24 AM (lXWHC)

199 He was adopted... that is uncontested. His name changed during the adoption, and there is NO legal paperwork changing it back... somehow Barry Soetoro got on an airplane in Indonesia, and Barrak Obama got off... Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2013 03:16 PM (lZBBB) I believe he was adopted, but states don't provide information regarding adoptions. I think his adoption is what has made such a stink about his birth certificate. The State can't admit he was adopted, and they are obligated to produce a birth certificate which is supposed to look like an original. I know. I'm adopted, and I have two birth certificates.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:24 AM (bb5+k)

200
144.   A  substantial  portion  of  Obama's  ...  base  ...  the  demographic  whose  steadfast  95  percent  no - matter - what  approval  rating  is  all  that  keeps  Obama's  overall  approval  ratings  out  of  the  20's  ...  would  not  bat  an  eye  at  that  revelation  and  would  indeed  welcome it  as the  first   real  confirmation  they've  ever  had  from  him  that  he  is  one  of  them.

Posted by: Charles George Gordon at December 05, 2013 11:24 AM (Xv7f/)

201 The Cakeboy is a lie.

Posted by: Morpheus at December 05, 2013 11:24 AM (MMC8r)

202

I think the real news here is that Uncle Omar has been drunk for forty years and isn't dead yet.

 

 

Piker is probably still on his first liver.

Posted by: David Crosby at December 05, 2013 11:25 AM (lXWHC)

203 I believe Obama was approached by an agent to write a book after a story was done about him at the NYT.He than dumped the agent when het got a deal,which was to write a book on race relations.He turned it in late and wrote an autobiography instead and they still payed him.

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2013 11:25 AM (zqvg6)

204 Why would we expect his college grades to be better?

Affirmative Action Jackson say: you shut up.


Now something or some kind of connection happened between the time he was smokin pot and skippin class at Occidental and the time he showed up at Columbia.  I have no doubt he has all A's in classes that no one saw him attend.  But it is beyond that, some serious high ranking people got a hold of him to move things along.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2013 11:26 AM (caCiW)

205 The Pakistani boyfriends are still a weird aspect of this.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 11:27 AM (ZPrif)

206 201 He's an uncle fucker. The fine musical talents of Terrence and Phillip-Canada's crown Jewels: "You don't go to school or mow the lawn, you just fuck your uncle all day long." I love those guys.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 05, 2013 11:27 AM (zeV2E)

207 ace:
>> Again, Read the Cashill articles.

Look, I'm sure you're right about Ayers.

But after an entire career of lies, the falsehood that finally got through to the low information voters was "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period".  Why?  Because it's simple, and it matters.

Who ghost-wrote his book is just not on anybody's radar.  The public will not care about this.

>> Not everything is for purposes of political messaging. Facts are facts whether politically exploitable or not.

In that case, revisit the issue ten years from now.  As I said, I'm sure you're right.  But for now, I think we're better served focusing on the lies and corruption which might actually matter to the public.

Posted by: sandy burger at December 05, 2013 11:27 AM (6ClcK)

208 It may not come to light during Obama's Presidency but these things will come to light. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 02:54 PM (BC6cY) Amotherfuckingmenhallelujah.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 05, 2013 11:27 AM (Y92Nd)

209 This whole pack of lying, cheating, law-breaking Kenyans should be deported back to their homeland -- and they should take their demon spawn Barry with them when they go.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at December 05, 2013 11:27 AM (/sohm)

210

I love those guys.

 

 

I'm not your guy, buddy!

Posted by: Terance at December 05, 2013 11:28 AM (lXWHC)

211

I'm going to write an autobiography every year until I die.

Why the fuck not?


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 05, 2013 11:28 AM (xggaJ)

212 No family, No friends, No history, No grades, No transcripts, No nothing and this guy is in the White House. Some Security Clearance

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2013 11:28 AM (t3UFN)

213 I know. I'm adopted, and I have two birth certificates. Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 03:24 PM (bb5+k) And as an adult, under Hawaii law (like most States)... if your parents are dead, you can get a Birth Cert that pretty much says what you want it to... Thus, the birth cert shown IS Legal... but this was after Obama's Lawyer went to Hawaii to 'get it'? But the Birth Cert revision does not legally change your name.... there has to be other documentation to do that....

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2013 11:28 AM (lZBBB)

214 And who ordered Chicago to give him a lecturer position even though he hadn't produced a single academic legal paper?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 11:28 AM (ZPrif)

215 The lying liar who lies strikes again. The polygraph is probably on sick leave from the amount of lies it had to record.

Posted by: FGCUJames at December 05, 2013 11:29 AM (i2t1q)

216 Sandy, why are you concern trolling about this? We don't give a fuck if LIVs care. We do give a fuck about what's actually true.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 11:29 AM (ZPrif)

217 Many years ago I encountered a pathological liar who had managed to deceive his whole circle of friends about his background.  He claimed to have a PhD and had managed to lie his way into a very high paying job at Raytheon by learning enough of the industry buzzwords.

One day he said something to me that made no sense at all though.  Just some throwaway remark about the old Lattice C compiler that anyone who'd actually used it would never have made because it was completely false and ridiculous.

That got my "spidy sense" tingling, so I went and researched all the PhD's ever granted, and the last guy to be awarded one that had this guy's last name (there was only one) was awarded in like the late 1800's.

When I confronted his brother about this, he admitted that his brother was a complete fraud and didn't even have a BA/BS and had lied his way into pretty much everything he ever did.

I had known this dude for a couple of years and he'd conned quite a few tech savvy people by knowing some of the jargon.  Sometimes it can take a while for their elaborate web of lies and deceptions to fall apart.  A practiced liar always has an explanation for almost everything...

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 05, 2013 11:30 AM (L0b3J)

218 Sort of O/T Why do the local lefty papers go all out at Christmas with sob stories about LIV's that are already living on welfare, in subsidized housing, with EBT cards, Obama phones and free health care, needing donations so the "Childrins" can have nice toys? You would think these poor pikers were starving in the streets with their six children and no baby daddy anywhere. It's soo sad. Give to our local paper's fund so we can buy them shit and they will like us and we can feel good about giving your money away in our name. Get off my lawn!

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 05, 2013 11:30 AM (0FSuD)

219 216 No family, No friends, No history, No grades, No transcripts, No nothing and this guy is in the White House. Some Security Clearance Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2013 03:28 PM (t3UFN) Politicians are NOT given background checks prior to granting security clearances... This is supposed to stop things cropping up there being used for political reasons....

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2013 11:30 AM (lZBBB)

220 " As I said, I'm sure you're right. But for now, I think we're better served focusing on the lies and corruption which might actually matter to the public." We can focus on more than one lie. In fact, now that the public have so clearly seen Obama caught in a massive lie, they are probably more receptive than ever to the idea that this Obama fellow may not be on the up and up.

Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2013 11:30 AM (hFL/3)

221 Announcing the fact that he not only had an uncle living in the country illegally but that he himself had actually stayed with the guy probably wouldn't have been a plus for Obama electorally. Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2013 02:57 PM (g1DWB) But an uncle in the attic with PTSD from liberating the Joos from Auschwitz, that's another story!

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 05, 2013 11:30 AM (Y92Nd)

222 We can walk and chew gum at the same time. Whenever I see somebody saying we shouldn't be looking into this, my instinctive reaction is to punch them in the throat.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 11:30 AM (ZPrif)

223 Barry probably "forgot" to pay rent too.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 05, 2013 11:31 AM (Ec6wH)

224 Who knew a motley crew of illegal alien Kenyans like me and my uncle (who I've never met) could take over the USA.

Posted by: Barky Oblowme at December 05, 2013 11:31 AM (Efgmz)

225 We should have just paid the reparations and been done with it. $1 million to every Black person born in this country since 1865 would have amounted to about half what we've spent on the Great Society and all the rest.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at December 05, 2013 11:31 AM (O7OxF)

226 As far as Obama's use of maritime terminology, Ive been reliably told by his press shop that he studied sustainable ocean enviroments while at Harvard. Case closed wingers

Posted by: Sean at December 05, 2013 11:31 AM (bAXJL)

227 But for now, I think we're better served focusing on the lies and corruption which might actually matter to the public. Posted by: sandy burger at December 05, 2013 03:27 PM (6ClcK) We aren't restricted to doing only one thing. There are many of us. Some can focus on this, and others can focus on other lies and corruption.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:31 AM (bb5+k)

228 If Obama resigns right now, there's a good chance he could get Martin Bashir's old spot on MSNBC.

Posted by: Hepcat at December 05, 2013 11:32 AM (Q4mug)

229 Politicians are NOT given background checks prior to granting security clearances... This is supposed to stop things cropping up there being used for political reasons.... Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2013 03:30 PM (lZBBB) maybe that policy should be re-examined

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2013 11:32 AM (t3UFN)

230 Nigeria's got nothin' on us Kenyans!

Posted by: Barky Oblowme at December 05, 2013 11:32 AM (Efgmz)

231

"But yeah, boggles the mind he would lie about something so relatively insignificant."

ISWYDT.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at December 05, 2013 11:32 AM (5lVZz)

232 229 We should have just paid the reparations and been done with it. $1 million to every Black person born in this country since 1865 would have amounted to about half what we've spent on the Great Society and all the rest. Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at December 05, 2013 03:31 PM (O7OxF) So you glad we lost now?

Posted by: Zombie Robert E Lee at December 05, 2013 11:32 AM (0FSuD)

233 There'll be a new thread every couple of hours, Sandy. I think you'll survive.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 11:33 AM (ZPrif)

234 We should have just paid the reparations and been done with it.

We'd never be done with it.  Every 20 years there'll be a new generation of "victims" demanding cash.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 05, 2013 11:33 AM (/kI1Q)

235 Does FLOTUS dress left or right?

Posted by: teh Wind at December 05, 2013 03:17 PM (B3WUC)

Yes.

Posted by: White House Seamstress at December 05, 2013 11:33 AM (fwARV)

236 "It's not clear why Obama, who had never sailed or been on a boat, would find himself so fluent in maritime metaphors."
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I'm a better sailor than Noah, Admiral Nelson, Captain Crunch, and Bull Halsey put together.  I just don 't write code.

Posted by: Barack the Sailor Man at December 05, 2013 11:33 AM (Hx5uv)

237 Is Thursday "Uncles Night" at Man's Country? It's hard to keep up with his calendar.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at December 05, 2013 11:34 AM (5lVZz)

238 Amotherfuckingmenhallelujah. I have no idea what that means.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 11:34 AM (BC6cY)

239 I had known this dude for a couple of years and he'd conned quite a few tech savvy people by knowing some of the jargon. Sometimes it can take a while for their elaborate web of lies and deceptions to fall apart. A practiced liar always has an explanation for almost everything... Posted by: Purp at December 05, 2013 03:30 PM (L0b3J) And are you at liberty to divulge what became of this man?

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:34 AM (bb5+k)

240 Again, Read the Cashill articles. He employs all the standard methods of proving authorship for disputed texts, the same sort of stuff people use to prove Shakespeare was really Francis Bacon or the like. I wouldn't trust that methodology. The Shakespeare conspiricists can and have trotted out any expert they need to state affirmatively that any candidate they want "wrote" Shakespeare. Some of this methodology "proves" that Christopher Marlowe wrote Shakespeare despite being, well, DEAD during the majority of Shakespeare's career. (and the fact that Marlowe's style is NOTHING like Shakespeare's.) So, they then say that Marlowe didn't really die, he was spirited out of the country and spent the rest of his life writing Shakespeare. Except that Marlowe's autopsy is remarkably detailed and there were many witnesses who saw his corpse. For an Elizabethan death, Marlowe's is very well documented. Dude lived a violent, hedonistic life, and died that way (hell of a writer though.) I could go on and on through the various "who wrote Shakespeare" candidates but you get the picture from the Marlowe example. (Former Lit student hat off.)

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 05, 2013 11:34 AM (7ObY1)

241 >>But after an entire career of lies, the falsehood that finally got through to the low information voters was "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period". Why? Because it's simple, and it matters.

Who ghost-wrote his book is just not on anybody's radar. The public will not care about this.<<

Actually is is material. It is part of a broader deception and gratuitous falsehoods which run through Mr. Obama's entire biography.

Even the LIV's will get that with the parade of lies that are now being revealed.

Posted by: Marcus at December 05, 2013 11:35 AM (5RVx8)

242 Wonder why Drudge doesn't have this up?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 05, 2013 11:35 AM (0FSuD)

243 To me the reason to not prioritize these issues about his past is it seems personal. And I really think Americans are hung up on being seen as forgiving. (See Vick, Michael) All that matters is how he is harming the country and ignoring laws/Constitution now. Him being a liar about his family is nit as important. And ppl do not like attacks on family (or religion or othet "personal" things imho.

Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2013 11:35 AM (zDsvJ)

244 "And they claim it just occurred to them to ask Obama after a witness with no reason to lie (Omar's landlord) came forward to say that Obama had lived with Omar." I'll handle this.

Posted by: Lois Lerner (proud of my public service) at December 05, 2013 11:35 AM (O7OxF)

245 If Obama resigns right now, there's a good chance he could get Martin Bashir's old spot on MSNBC.
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He says he wants to host Sports Center after he's out of office.  If we could just Obama and Costas on sports Center, wouldn't that be something?

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2013 11:35 AM (Hx5uv)

246

167.  Is  the  fact  of  Obama's  adoption not  established  conclusively  by  the  1980  divorce  decree  between  Lolo  and  Stanley  Ann?  It  states:



“The parties have 1 children below age 18 and 1 chidren above 18
but still dependent on the parties for education.”


Unless  Lolo  adopted  Barry,  then  the child  above  18 in 1980  -- Barry  --  would  not  have  been  the  child  of  the  "parties".  He  would  have been  only  the child  of  the  plaintiff  --  Stanley Ann. 






 

 

Posted by: Charles George Gordon at December 05, 2013 11:35 AM (Xv7f/)

247 228 Who knew a motley crew of illegal alien Kenyans like me and my uncle (who I've never met) could take over the USA. Posted by: Barky Oblowme at December 05, 2013 03:31 PM (Efgmz) Ha! The mouse that roared!

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:36 AM (bb5+k)

248 if your parents are dead, you can get a Birth Cert that pretty much says what you want it to...

I still can't get those cis-species bigots in Illinois to issue one that shows I am cat.

I was born in the wrong body!  This is who I really am!  I demand respect and naps!!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 05, 2013 11:36 AM (/kI1Q)

249 >> Sandy, why are you concern trolling about this?

It's not "concern trolling".  Obama's honesty has finally (!) become an issue, and I think it's important to attack him effectively.  And I'm just giving my opinion, not telling you what to do.  Really, it's OK if we don't agree.

I think Ayers is goading the right this way for a reason.

Also, those books are great material for messing with him, Alinsky style.  Mockery works.  Look how funny the "Obama ate a dog" stuff was.  It really knocked him off balance for a short time.

Posted by: sandy burger at December 05, 2013 11:36 AM (6ClcK)

250 I knew a guy who seemed pretty normal, but had some dramatic and outrageous stories. Didn't see him much until we ended up on the same softball team. There I met his brother, who basically blew up every story the guy had ever told, from travel stories to jobs to girlfriends. It was pretty surreal watching the bro dismember this Guy's whole identity. Apparently he'd been a big liar his whole life and the brother was used to, and sick of, people asking him bizarre questions about the guy.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 05, 2013 11:36 AM (ZshNr)

251 Our family of three had to go through background checks three weeks before getting a private tour of the WH with husband's cousin who worked for Boooosh.  The secret service still asked us questions before they handed us our passes and sent us through the metal detectors at the Eisenhower Exec. building. 

I'll bet that was more strenuous than anything Special Snowflake ever went through.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2013 11:36 AM (lVPtV)

252 I've read Jack Cashill's book. (Indeed, autographed.) No question in my mind that Ayers wrote it. Oh, great. Now Ayers wrote Cashill's book, too.

Posted by: edj[/i] at December 05, 2013 11:36 AM (klzyR)

253 Wonder why Drudge doesn't have this up? Posted by: Nip Sip at December 05, 2013 03:35 PM (0FSuD) Drudge does, it is just not the lead story. Look we know obama lies like he breaths, it really is not that big a story. We know it and his followers don't care

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2013 11:36 AM (t3UFN)

254

So  how  come  Obama  made  no  mention  whatsoever  of  his  1980  trip  to Pakistan  in  either  of  his two  autobiographies? 

Maybe  the  White  House  press  office  can  now stir  themselves  to ask  him  that. 

Posted by: Charles George Gordon at December 05, 2013 11:37 AM (Xv7f/)

255 I'll refloat Totten's Havana post in a bit if things get slow.  I put it back in draft when got whomped by the dump after only a few minutes

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 05, 2013 11:37 AM (L0b3J)

256 Flatbush Joe:
>> There'll be a new thread every couple of hours, Sandy. I think you'll survive.

Huh?  I'm posting here because I think it's an interesting topic.  It's OK to not have 100% agreement 100% of the time.

Posted by: sandy burger at December 05, 2013 11:37 AM (6ClcK)

257

Bill Ayers and Obama walk into  a bar.   The bartender asks Obama " what can I get for you and your friend?"

 

Obama looks puzzled and points to Bill Ayers and says "  That guy?  I've never seen him before in my life" 

 

The bartender says "  I just saw you guys hug before you entered the bar. "

 

Obama looking puzzled again and says " what part of  'I only know this guy as someone who lives in my neighborhood' don't you understand?"

 

The bartender getting angry says " you just said you never saw him before in your life and now you say you know him as a neighbor"

 

Obama replied  " listen just because someone hosts a fund raiser for you at his house doesn't mean he's a friend"

 

The bartender incredulous says  "  now you not only know him but  he's given you money and had you to his house.  What are you a liar? "

 

Obama replied  " I'm not a liar but you are definitely a racist"   

Posted by: polynikes self proclaimed king of walked into a bar jokes at December 05, 2013 11:37 AM (m2CN7)

258 That is, I know that the words strung together mean. I just don't know if you're irritated at the quote or my opinion of it. It gives me hope that justice will roll down like water and righteousness like an ever flowing stream-if not in the life than in the next. If that is meaningless to you that's your choice.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 11:38 AM (BC6cY)

259 122 Are we sure Barry is even married to a woman? Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2013 03:10 PM (lVPtV) Don't ask Barry. He would lie IF he knew the truth.

Posted by: Dandolo at December 05, 2013 11:38 AM (0XBx+)

260 Maybe the landlord mistook him for an effete, junkie male prostitute. 

Posted by: dirks strewn at December 05, 2013 11:38 AM (kfcYC)

261

>>I believe he was adopted, but states don't provide information regarding adoptions.

I think his adoption is what has made such a stink about his birth certificate. The State can't admit he was adopted, and they are obligated to produce a birth certificate which is supposed to look like an original.


I know. I'm adopted, and I have two birth certificates.

.

.

.My wife adopted my son from my first marriage 32 years ago when we were married.  We have two birth certificates for him.  He is only aware of the one with her as the mother, and it is marked certified copy, the other is stamped original with a raised seal.  And the State (Mississippi) cant even tell him he is adopted unless they change the law.

 

I suspect that Hawaii is between a rock and a hard place with regards to Obama and his status.

Posted by: Registered voter at December 05, 2013 11:39 AM (0DC/m)

262 Very curious indeed. Carney knew that the WH press corp had been told a falsehood about a very topical issue. Carney didn't volunteer any correction. Instead, he waited for a direct question. The explanation was that the prior answer was based on reading a book that, from my recollection, does not purport to answer the question. To know the explanation that he gave, Carney had to both talk to the President and research how the prior answer came about. But having done all that, he remained silent about a known falsehood until asked. Most transparent administration ever?

Posted by: USA at December 05, 2013 11:39 AM (VIaw0)

263 45 >>>4 The right is dumb for caring about who wrote that book. At best, it's a big "meh", because pretty much all politicians have ghost authors. At worst, it makes them look like petty lunatics. If it were established Ayers wrote the book, it would not only disprove Obama's alleged status as a "rara avis" and first rate literary genius, but also establish his close connection to Ayers, a man he claims he just "knew from around the neighborhood." I disagree with your claim this just doesn't matter or is "petty." Posted by: ace at December 05, 2013 02:59 PM (/FnUH) Yes, it matters if Ayers is the ghost author. It also matters that Obama didn't write it because his writing was evidence of his genius. And, in fact, Republican politicians now acknowledge their ghost writers because...well, because of media bias. People care a lot less that David Plouffe is almost surely the author of Audacity of Hope. In fact, I think Obama actually contributed notes and even some passages to Dreams from My Father, it's just that Ayers practically rewrote it from scratch.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2013 11:40 AM (xSegX)

264 Unless Lolo adopted Barry, then the child above 18 in 1980 -- Barry -- would not have been the child of the "parties". He would have been only the child of theplaintiff -- Stanley Ann. Posted by: Charles George Gordon at December 05, 2013 03:35 PM (Xv7f/) It's been a while since I kept up with this, but my recollection is that there are 7 pieces of evidence extant that Lolo Soetoro adopted Barry.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:40 AM (bb5+k)

265 If Obama resigns right now, there's a good chance he could get Martin Bashir's old spot on MSNBC.

Naaaaah, don't want it.  That sounds too much like actual work.....

Posted by: Preezy B at December 05, 2013 11:40 AM (NXg/k)

266 I read the Havana post in it's first incarnation. Well worth it. When I was a kid first reading the News I assumed Castro would die and Cuba would become Disneyland Island before I got out of high school. Yeah, not so much.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 05, 2013 11:40 AM (ZshNr)

267 Sandy, you aren't disagreeing. You are trying to convince people not to discuss the topic. Which is an odd thing to do. You aren't saying you think Obama wrote Dreams. You are saying we shouldn't waste time asking the question. Big difference.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 11:42 AM (ZPrif)

268 Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2013 03:40 PM (xSegX)

One problem with the reasonable question of whether Obama lied about writing DOOF is that it lures the lunatic birthers out of their holes.

Just look at this thread!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 11:43 AM (oJ5Fd)

269 Bitching about what other people on the Internet are talking about. Perhaps the most fruitless task ever.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 05, 2013 11:43 AM (ZshNr)

270 Uhh, isn't it illegal to be living with a known illegal and then head off to law school, as a foreign student so you can get Harvard , the US govt. and the state of Mass. to pay your way? Also, Uncle Onyango was living on food stamps, etc. which I'm sure Barry Soetoro/Barack Obama and whatever other alias he was traveling under was also feasting from. I know today the left considers that an act on par with the underground railroad, but.....

Posted by: Jen at December 05, 2013 11:43 AM (z6rIp)

271 The best lie is the truth  told unconvincingly.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 05, 2013 11:43 AM (BAS5M)

272 264Maybe the landlord mistook him for an effete, junkie male prostitute.

Posted by: dirks strewn at December 05, 2013 03:38 PM (kfcYC)

 

Very insight ful, you're a genius.  Effete, junkie male prostitutes (jug-eared and non-jug-eared) are also famous for telling lots of lies, but not over so long a period.

Posted by: dirks strewn at December 05, 2013 11:44 AM (kfcYC)

273 Another good Lying Liar piece from American Spectator: THE LIARS CLUB Obama's lying goes back to Ayers. excerpt: Frankly I would have advised Our President to come clean about his bogus authorship years ago. Ayers is a decidedly shifty fellow and his wife, the former SDSer, Bernardine Dohrn, is worse. They were always spoiled university-bred radicals always expecting the Republic to fall for their Marxist mumbo jumbo. Yet America has never been very hospitable to the disciples of Papa Marx, much less when those disciples have pipe bombs in their hands. Now, at the end of a misspent life, Ayers suddenly anticipates yet another act. He will serve as a Saul Alinsky for the Millennials. He will write an updated Rules for Radicals with diagrams on how to disable mother’s smart phone or how to hack into her bank account. First, however, he needs to attract attention. My guess is that he will admit to having written Obama’s bestselling Dreams from My Father. He has suggested as much to the curious public. In October 2009 at Reagan National Airport when asked if he had “edited” the book for his friend, Obama, he told a friend of mine that, in fact, “I wrote it.” He explained that Michelle Obama had sought his help. In March 2011 during a question and answer session at Montclair State University he admitted authorship of the book, saying: “Did you know I wrote it,” and for emphasis he added, “I wrote ‘Dreams from My Father.’” Obama’s friends in the media wrote all this off to sarcasm on Ayers’ part. http://spectator.org/articles/56971/liars-club

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 05, 2013 11:44 AM (IXrOn)

274 I've often wondered how the anit-christ of revelations could  come into existence, but after obama, I don't wonder about this any longer.  It amazes me how an empty suit with  very little known about his past and so many mysteries around him could become President of the United States.  Think about that.  It's truly scary.  The media dug thru Palin's trash but they actively hid anything and everything about obama that could make anyone question.  What questions were raised were quickly ridiculed and made fun of to the point where our side got scared of  being called names.  Simply astounding in so many ways.

Posted by: Havedash at December 05, 2013 11:44 AM (gvqyH)

275 And are you at liberty to divulge what became of this man?

I don't know.  This happened back in the mid-80's and I never bothered to keep track of him after I moved to FL.  I eased him out of my inner circle and moved on.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 05, 2013 11:44 AM (L0b3J)

276 Yeah, when has the "We really shouldn't waste time discussing this. Serious, you guys." tactic ever worked on the internet?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 11:44 AM (ZPrif)

277

271 -

 

Relax, Sandy has been coming here for years, and is not a troll.  He doesn't  post as often as he used to, but I believe he got his nic from the days when the "real" Sandy Burger was in the news for  his filching of documents from the national archives. 

 

Just disagree with him and leave it at that.   There  really is nothing more to it than that. 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2013 11:45 AM (TOk1P)

278 Also, those books are great material for messing with him, Alinsky style. Mockery works. Look how funny the "Obama ate a dog" stuff was. It really knocked him off balance for a short time. Posted by: sandy burger ---------------------------- Two words; 'Composite girlfriend'. Everything is a 'composite' with this guy, i.e., fabricated for his convenience, which is the definition of a lie.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 11:45 AM (aDwsi)

279 Yeah, political strategizing us verboten around here. /s

Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2013 11:46 AM (zDsvJ)

280 Flatbush Joe:
>> You are trying to convince people not to discuss the topic.

No, I'm saying it's a counter-productive way to attack him politically, which is why I'm talking about what will or won't reach low information voters (who, by definition, are not reading this thread).

Posted by: sandy burger at December 05, 2013 11:46 AM (6ClcK)

281 I'm still wondering what the really big lie will be about.  There has got to be a lie  about Dear Leader that's so big that even when the truth comes out, it'll be hard to believe.

Posted by: Soona at December 05, 2013 11:46 AM (9sMM9)

282 I suspect that Hawaii is between a rock and a hard place with regards to Obama and his status. Posted by: Registered voter at December 05, 2013 03:39 PM (0DC/m) From a State law perspective, yes. But I have long argued that Article II trumps any state law which attempts to shield verification of eligibility from the truth. Constitutional law OUGHT to trump any state law which interferes with it's requirements.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:47 AM (bb5+k)

283 Oh, Obama needed a GHOST writer?? Like someone in a white sheet costume?? Denounce yourselves, wingers!!!

Posted by: Lib who totally sees through you people at December 05, 2013 11:47 AM (SUKHu)

284 218--- And who ordered Chicago to give him a lecturer position even though he hadn't produced a single academic legal paper? Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 05, 2013 03:28 PM (ZPrif) ---------------------- Eh. That could be anyone with U Chicago connections. A lot of big city law schools do that. Make up a job for law graduates who are rising in politics, especially in left-wing circles.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 05, 2013 11:48 AM (dfYL9)

285

If I was Obama I would  claim  Bill Ayers  wrote  his college poems. 

Posted by: polynikes self proclaimed king of walked into a bar jokes at December 05, 2013 11:48 AM (m2CN7)

286 Just disagree with him and leave it at that. There really is nothing more to it than that.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2013 03:45 PM (TOk1P)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

 

Yup.  I've learned to more or less just  ignore him.  Kind of like JeffB.

Posted by: Soona at December 05, 2013 11:49 AM (9sMM9)

287 You can laugh if you want to, wingnuts, but I'm convinced we could pick any one of those pointy-headed jocksniffers off of SportsCenter and they'd be better at presidentin'.

Posted by: Fritz at December 05, 2013 11:49 AM (TKFmG)

288 Apropos of nothing but skilled liars, I think The Open Window is one of the funniest short stories ever written: http://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/UBooks/OpeWin.shtml

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at December 05, 2013 11:49 AM (QupBk)

289 Bitching about what other people on the Internet are talking about. Perhaps the most fruitless task ever.
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How about trying to get Sandra Fluke to sign an abstinence pledge?

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2013 11:49 AM (Hx5uv)

290 I don't understand why it's such a conspiracy theory to believe that Obama is foreign-born?  Seriously. 

Posted by: Geraldine Ferraro at December 05, 2013 11:49 AM (XpAxm)

291 Long Bow vs Cross bow
Ford vs Chevi vs mopar

It doesn't matter. Obama is president and will be for at least another three years. maybe longer. It doesn't matter if he robbed a bank when he was desperate for money, it doesn't matter if he killed his first wife. It doesn't matter. He is a democrat. He is black. He is president. He is surrounded by an army of loyalists, and another professional army of men with guns who know how to use them, and he has billions and billions of US Dollars on tap to pay lawyers, or bribe judges, or buy off anyone he wants.

Just give it up.

Posted by: Need More at December 05, 2013 11:49 AM (aCaka)

292 >>It really knocked him off balance for a short time. It doesn't take much. After Romney took the lead in the primaries, suddenly he (Obama) was prattering on about "my sons" and "if I had a son". Jealous much?

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 05, 2013 11:49 AM (SUKHu)

293 >>>Obama Now Remembers He Lived With Him For a While During Law School

 

Cocaine's a hell of a drug.

Posted by: President Barack "Rick James" Obama at December 05, 2013 11:50 AM (CMbMd)

294 My dog is retarded.  Called him in out of the freezing rain and gave him a warm cookie from the oven.  He wanted to go back out and eat it.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at December 05, 2013 11:50 AM (kxSZr)

295 287. LOL-Well, anyone who suggested that Obama wasn't actually talented enough to write the prose in "Dreams" already got lambasted for being raaaaaaaaacist even though there's nothing to prove Obama had any ability as a writer whatsoever.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 11:50 AM (BC6cY)

296 One problem with the reasonable question of whether Obama lied about writing DOOF is that it lures the lunatic birthers out of their holes. Just look at this thread! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 03:43 PM (oJ5Fd) Since the evidence keeps coming out, it is beginning to look like the the "birthers" were the prescient ones. You just can't stand the possibility that YOUR position was the wrong one.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:50 AM (bb5+k)

297 So a con-man steals your life savings. You want his proverbial head for conning you. You learn even more about different cons that the con-man has pulled. So now you want to forgive him his past cons? NOT. You're even more livid. It's time to pile on. Let the full truth out. Let all the con-mans cons out. The truth shall set you free. He's a fraud from A to Z. Starting with his fake birth certificate.

Posted by: Barky Oblowme at December 05, 2013 11:51 AM (Efgmz)

298 Apropos of nothing but skilled liars, I think The Open Window is one of the funniest short stories ever written: http://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/UBooks/OpeWin.shtml
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Yeah, I loved that and admired the young lady's skill at romance at short notice.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2013 11:51 AM (Hx5uv)

299 "anyway he wrote it. imagine how bad it'd be if it were written by obama alone"

It would be like that horrible poem he wrote in school - only much, much longer.

Personally, I think that Ayers had a part in its writing, perhaps a large part. By his own admission, Obama had failed to deliver a manuscript on his first attempt at the book, and had had to return the advance. And, by his own admission, he was having still having trouble with the book. Anyone who's published a book (I've published five of them) will know what it means to be floundering in the middle of a project, with a deadline staring you in the face and not a clue what to do. It's only natural that Obama would turn to his friend Bill, the bestselling author, for help. And it's only natural that Bill, seeing a chance to do some preaching under the byline of Barack Obama (and maybe a cut of the royalties under the table) would help out - and by "help out", I mean "rewrite the MS".

It's all perfectly natural; no conspiracy theories needed. The funny thing is, Obama probably believes he really did write the thing himself; Ayers knows better, but he'll never spill the beans, certainly not to the detested Right. Therein lies the difference between Ayers the cynic and Obama the psychopath.

Posted by: Brown Line at December 05, 2013 11:51 AM (VrNoa)

300 "... until his apartment was ready." Huh? Most disinterested press corp ever!

Posted by: USA at December 05, 2013 11:52 AM (VIaw0)

301 Just give it up. GIve what up exactly? Just let Obama do or say whatever he wants with no challenges whatsoever? Just sit in the ashes, cry and do nothing? Why that almost sounds like the suggestion of a leftist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 11:52 AM (BC6cY)

302

I disagree that  discussions on the internet are worthless.   Its  read here  but maybe repeated a hundred  times by those who repeat   it to others outside the internet.   

 

 Going viral  / Going verbal.  

Posted by: polynikes self proclaimed king of walked into a bar jokes at December 05, 2013 11:52 AM (m2CN7)

303 285 I'm still wondering what the really big lie will be about. There has got to be a lie about Dear Leader that's so big that even when the truth comes out, it'll be hard to believe. I am not leaving in 2016. That upholding the constitution shit? Yeah, I lied.

Posted by: Barry, Chom leader at December 05, 2013 11:52 AM (0FSuD)

304 How about trying to get Sandra Fluke to sign an abstinence pledge?

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2013 03:49 PM (Hx5uv)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

But first, she'll blow me.

Posted by: Soona at December 05, 2013 11:52 AM (9sMM9)

305 >>Eh. That could be anyone with U Chicago connections. A lot of big city law schools do that. Make up a job for law graduates who are rising in politics, especially in left-wing circles. There was nobody with bigger behind the scenes political connections during that time that Thomas Ayers, Bill Ayers father. Just putting that out there.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2013 11:53 AM (g1DWB)

306 Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2013 03:51 PM (Hx5uv) I just read that. It is a fine story. Saki has a lot of those.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 11:53 AM (BC6cY)

307 http://spectator.org/articles/56971/liars-club Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 05, 2013 03:44 PM (IXrOn) According to "Investors.com" Ayers admitted this a third time, and this time more believably. http://tinyurl.com/pqty4m9

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 11:54 AM (bb5+k)

308 BuhRock O-bah-muhh is a stammering clusterfarce of an E.E.L.

Posted by: Roger Simon at December 05, 2013 11:54 AM (nbGZj)

309 18 I saw Onyango Obama open for Oingo Boingo in Pago Pago in '84... Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 05, 2013 02:54 PM (wtvvX) That may be the best one yet.

Posted by: rickl at December 05, 2013 11:55 AM (zoehZ)

310 Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at December 05, 2013 03:49 PM (QupBk)

Saki!

Awesome stuff. Ever read "The Schartz-Metterklume method?"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 11:55 AM (oJ5Fd)

311 Obamaphile Chrstopher Anderson wrote that he had inside sources tell him that Ayers did write "Dreams"

Posted by: Albie Damned at December 05, 2013 11:56 AM (cGaCp)

312
It's not "concern trolling". Obama's honesty has finally (!) become an issue, and I think it's important to attack him effectively. And I'm just giving my opinion, not telling you what to do. Really, it's OK if we don't agree.

I think Ayers is goading the right this way for a reason.

Also, those books are great material for messing with him, Alinsky style. Mockery works. Look how funny the "Obama ate a dog" stuff was. It really knocked him off balance for a short time.

Posted by: sandy burger at December 05, 2013 03:36 PM (6ClcK)

Yes, the worm has turned.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 05, 2013 11:56 AM (AWmfW)

313 I saw Onyango Obama open for Oingo Boingo in Pago Pago in '84...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 05, 2013 02:54 PM (wtvvX)

That may be the best one yet.

Posted by: rickl at December 05, 2013 03:55 PM (zoehZ)

 

seconded

Posted by: polynikes self proclaimed king of walked into a bar jokes at December 05, 2013 11:57 AM (m2CN7)

314 Ayers is just fucking with everybody. He knows we know, but is safe in the fact the media will not pick the story up.

Guilty as as sin, free as a bird...and all that

Posted by: Albie Damned at December 05, 2013 11:57 AM (cGaCp)

315 I want to rip the remaining few hairs out of Bill Ayers' head.

Posted by: Sphynx at December 05, 2013 11:58 AM (OZmbA)

316 298 My dog is retarded. Called him in out of the freezing rain and gave him a warm cookie from the oven. He wanted to go back out and eat it. Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at December 05, 2013 03:50 PM (kxSZr) Did you ever think that he had something out there -- a gift, for you? He heard you calling so he ran inside. Now he has to go back out and wrap it up -- for you.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 05, 2013 11:58 AM (kkbgQ)

317 According to "Investors.com" Ayers admitted this a third time, and this time more believably. http://tinyurl.com/pqty4m9 Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 03:54 PM (bb5+k) AmSpec references the investors piece in their article.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 05, 2013 11:58 AM (IXrOn)

318 Just give it up.

Posted by: Need More at December 05, 2013 03:49 PM (aCaka)

You arguments are persuasive.

Okay.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 11:58 AM (oJ5Fd)

319 Now, at the end of a misspent life, Ayers suddenly anticipates yet another act. He will serve as a Saul Alinsky for the Millennials. Who, Billy "EdD" Ayres, holder of the pee-wee version of a PhD? If "Obama ate dog" knocked Ayres off his game, ridiculing his education will burn. An EdD ... that's really just legally acceptable proof of graduation from High School. Just read the idiocy contained in "Prairie Fire" ... Ayres never really achieved the thinking ability and methods a real college education (in a real area of study) should provide. As previously asked in a comment on Ace: "If Ayres' point in throwing bombs, or at least planning to do so, like at Ft. Dix, was to draw attention to a cause, and not kill, ... why were nails included in the Ft. Dix bombs? Spending some time asking these and other questions of Ayres sounds like a good counter to Teh JEF pivoting away from ObamaCare.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 05, 2013 11:59 AM (FlRtG)

320 Posted by: Sphynx at December 05, 2013 03:58 PM (OZmbA)

With an axe.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 11:59 AM (oJ5Fd)

321 319 I want to rip the remaining few hairs out of Bill Ayers' head. NO, rip those ghey fucking ear rings out of his ears.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 05, 2013 11:59 AM (0FSuD)

322 I want to knock Bill Ayers down and take his wallet and car keys. Because. Anarchy, after all.

Posted by: Sphynx at December 05, 2013 12:00 PM (OZmbA)

323 It's all perfectly natural; no conspiracy theories needed. The funny thing is, Obama probably believes he really did write the thing himself; Ayers knows better, but he'll never spill the beans, certainly not to the detested Right. Therein lies the difference between Ayers the cynic and Obama the psychopath. Posted by: Brown Line at December 05, 2013 03:51 PM (VrNoa) Ayers has once more spilled the beans. http://tinyurl.com/pqty4m9

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 12:00 PM (bb5+k)

324 Let me be clear, no one is madder than me that I didn't even know I had an uncle until I read about it in the paper just like y'all did...

Posted by: Bronco Bama at December 05, 2013 12:01 PM (2iHnw)

325 309--- There was nobody with bigger behind the scenes political connections during that time that Thomas Ayers, Bill Ayers father. Just putting that out there. Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2013 03:53 PM (g1DWB) ---------------------- Good chance that's the link. I often wondered why Obama ended up in Chicago in the first place. Then you find out that Bill Ayers was in NYC at the same time Obama was at Columbia, in the same neighborhood, hanging out with the same left-wing crowd Obama says he hung out with. I suspect Ayers brought him to Chicago. Who knows? Of course, that doesn't explain how Obama ended up at Columbia.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 05, 2013 12:01 PM (dfYL9)

326 Heh. I saw Onyango open for Bananarama, Evanston Il., 1997

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 12:01 PM (aDwsi)

327 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 03:55 PM (oJ5Fd) Haven't read that. Saki has wonderful twists in his stories and can do humor and creepiness equally well. Sometimes together. I think "The Open window" is both creepy and darkly funny at the end."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 12:01 PM (BC6cY)

328 285 I'm still wondering what the really big lie will be about. There has got to be a lie about Dear Leader that's so big that even when the truth comes out, it'll be hard to believe.

 

Posted by: Soona at December 05, 2013 03:46 PM (9sMM9)

 

I think there will be a tell-all book 10-15 years from now by someone who was in the White House.  We will find out that Valerie Jarrett was really running the government for 8 years, while Barack Obama slept 14 hours a day, watched ESPN most of the time he was awake, and is actually quite unintelligent.

Posted by: rockmom at December 05, 2013 12:02 PM (Q4elb)

329 It doesn't matter. Obama is president and will be for at least another three years. maybe longer. It doesn't matter if he robbed a bank when he was desperate for money, it doesn't matter if he killed his first wife. It doesn't matter. He is a democrat. He is black. He is president. He is surrounded by an army of loyalists, and another professional army of men with guns who know how to use them, and he has billions and billions of US Dollars on tap to pay lawyers, or bribe judges, or buy off anyone he wants.

Just give it up.

Posted by: Need More at December 05, 2013 03:49 PM (aCaka)

 

 

 

 

Yes, it does matter.  IF obama's true history is 10% of what many of us believe, then we have given the highest office in the land to a total grifter.  We need to know the truth, and if it's as we expect, it needs to be made known.  Else we've set a really really bad precedent.  If there's anything left of this country in 3 more years, we  don't want to repeat these kinds of mistakes in the future.  It does matter who this guy REALLY is.

Posted by: Havedash at December 05, 2013 12:02 PM (gvqyH)

330 -
Yes, the worm has turned.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 05, 2013 03:56 PM
------------------------------------------
The turd has worms.  either/or

Posted by: irright at December 05, 2013 12:02 PM (pMGkg)

331 AmSpec references the investors piece in their article. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 05, 2013 03:58 PM (IXrOn) Okay.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 05, 2013 12:02 PM (bb5+k)

332 Posted by: Sphynx at December 05, 2013 04:00 PM (OZmbA) I'm a rather peaceful person but I understand your sentiments. He's one of those fellows that the sooner to goes to another place permanently the better. And no, NSA, I wish no harm to Bill Ayers. I hope he gets just what he deserves in the life to come if he doesn't repent.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 12:04 PM (BC6cY)

333 Distract from Obamacare. Start Minimum Wage BS

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 12:04 PM (aDwsi)

334 Well, I agree with those who say all of this is of no use politically, but I'm not an instrumentalist. I'm curious about the truth for its own sake, whether it helps politically or not.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 05, 2013 12:04 PM (dfYL9)

335 I'm curious about the truth for its own sake, whether it helps politically or not. Amen, sister.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 12:06 PM (BC6cY)

336 Yes, it does matter. IF obama's true history is 10% of what many of us believe, then we have given the highest office in the land to a total grifter. We need to know the truth, and if it's as we expect, it needs to be made known. Else we've set a really really bad precedent. If there's anything left of this country in 3 more years, we don't want to repeat these kinds of mistakes in the future. It does matter who this guy REALLY is.

 

Posted by: Havedash at December 05, 2013 04:02 PM (gvqyH)

 

Not only that, but we can beat the living shit out of the organized Left who foisted this fraud on America, for a generation.  Nobody will trust "their" candidate again.  They were either totally gullible or in on the lies.  The Democratic Party will either come apart or reorganize after kicking all these assholes out. 

Posted by: rockmom at December 05, 2013 12:07 PM (Q4elb)

337 If that little turd got the "revolution" he's advocating he'd shit himself.

Posted by: Sphynx at December 05, 2013 12:07 PM (OZmbA)

338 Yes, it does matter. IF obama's true history is 10% of what many of us believe, then we have given the highest office in the land to a total grifter. We need to know the truth, and if it's as we expect, it needs to be made known. Else we've set a really really bad precedent. If there's anything left of this country in 3 more years, we don't want to repeat these kinds of mistakes in the future. It does matter who this guy REALLY is.

Posted by: Havedash at December 05, 2013 04:02 PM (gvqyH)

 

 

--------------------------------------------------------

 

 

For the  time being we, the people, still have the ability to strip him of all the accrutraments of power.   For the time being. 

 

Three more years. 

Posted by: Soona at December 05, 2013 12:08 PM (9sMM9)

339 What gauls me about him is he is preaching his drivel to little minds full of mush who think they are so 'with it' for listening to a 60s radical/murderer. Or maybe they don't even know his true history.

Posted by: Sphynx at December 05, 2013 12:10 PM (OZmbA)

340 Or maybe they don't even know his true history. Would it matter?

Posted by: Zombie Che at December 05, 2013 12:12 PM (QupBk)

341 I like the way the Boston Globe is trying to take the blame for this by claiming they took the word of the "White House" but didn't ask Barack directly... So he didn't lie it was just a misunderstanding.

Posted by: Iosif Vissionvich at December 05, 2013 12:13 PM (1H+lb)

342
I'm not interested in watching vids of Ayers unless it entails a bunch of blunt-smoking gangsta Garden Gnomes chanting "who's yo' Daddy, biyotch" and repeatedly punching Billy Boom-Boom in the nutsack.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2013 12:14 PM (TIIx5)

343 I'd love to dump those young dipshits listening to Ayers into some society and government based on the ideals he's advocating. And film a reality show around it. Now, that would be entertaining. "Smartass Progressives in Cuba"

Posted by: Sphynx at December 05, 2013 12:14 PM (OZmbA)

344 Actually we can all celebrate that Bill Ayer's lastest book was a flop and at least one apperance was cancelled because nobody was interested in going to see him..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 12:17 PM (BC6cY)

345 Nobody knows anything about Obama's lifee before he appeared in Chicago it seems, including Obama himself. This man and his Admin will lie when telling the truth would serve them better; they just seem incapable of producing a factually accurate statement.

Posted by: DrEvil007 at December 05, 2013 12:20 PM (YIriA)

346 In fact. Billy Boy might get more attention if he said directly that he did write Obama's book and laid some realities about Obama on the MSM/ Let's face it, Ayers is probably much smarter and more clever than Obama and relishes that he pulled one over on the American public.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 12:20 PM (BC6cY)

347 Examples of the kind of questions that should have been asked in 2008, if not earlier.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 05, 2013 12:22 PM (BDU/a)

348 "On Thursday, a White House official said the press office had not fully researched the relationship between the president and his uncle before telling the Globe that they had no record of the two meeting. This time, the press office asked the president directly, which they had not done in 2011." Yeah too busy vetting Joe the Plumber.

Posted by: Iosif Vissionvich at December 05, 2013 12:24 PM (1H+lb)

349 Hey, remember me?

Posted by: George Obama the hut dweller at December 05, 2013 12:27 PM (dvRYt)

350 Obama lies with such regularity I fully expect Osama bin Laden to host the next new SNL.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at December 05, 2013 12:30 PM (2oU2+)

351 It's going to be interesting to see who is the last dumb-ass standing. An Oblowme voter who has yet to get the insurance shaft or someone on the right who still thinks the con-man has a real birth certificate, a real SSN#, and a real selective service card?

Posted by: Barky Oblowme at December 05, 2013 12:33 PM (Efgmz)

352 I will not rest until I find out why I didn't know about the fact that I lived with my uncle. Now hand me that 9 iron, will you?

Posted by: lawdvd at December 05, 2013 12:37 PM (d3clc)

353 I'm beginning to think this Obama fellow may not be entirely truthful all the time.

Posted by: TallDave at December 05, 2013 01:16 PM (/s1LA)

354

Obama is unable to 'not lie'-that is what he is

 

Posted by: ploome at December 05, 2013 01:40 PM (x/LRg)

355

the White House never asked preezy if he met his uncle,

and of course Oblowme never saw or heard any mention of him never meeting Uncle Illegaldrunk

so Oblowme couldn't correct the lie for 2 years

Posted by: ploome at December 05, 2013 01:43 PM (x/LRg)

356 The best part of the Boston Globe article is the reference to "scholars" because that is obviously the best way to obtain simple biographical information about the president. Consult scholars.

Posted by: hdob at December 05, 2013 03:43 PM (qJ1+N)

357

Ace is dead wrong about Ayer's demeanor in that clip. There is not a hint of sarcasm in his claim to have written Dreams, and the same seems to be true of the other times he has made this claim, which was also asserted by other Obama administration insiders, as reported in that all-access bio of Obama by that Andersen guy.

Art Moore at WND has for some reason taken to describing it as "ironic" when Ayers offers to split the royalties with anyone who can prove he wrote the book, but far from casting doubt on his admissions of authorship this Ayers trope explains his motivation: he is pissed about not getting any credit or money from the most influential thing he ever wrote, and the most revenue producing. In Moore's actual reporting shows Ayers seems perfectly sincere:

“Did you write ‘Dreams from My Father?’”

“Yes. I wrote that,” Ayers replied. “I’ve written many books for many Hyde Parkers, but that one I wrote. And it didn’t take long. I had a few interviews, and then I wrote it up. It took me about four months.”

Apparently alluding to Cashill’s comparative analysis, Ayers said, “And, I love the nautical imagery, which I also use in ‘Fugitive Days.’”

Ayers paused.

“Now, if you guys can help me prove this,” he said, smiling and eliciting laughter from his interviewers, “I’ll split the royalties with you. … I haven’t gotten a nickel from my effort.”

Without mentioning Cashill’s name, Ayers then referred to “a book comparing phrases from ‘Dreams from My Father.’”

“So, he’s proven it, kind of,” Ayers said of Cashill. “But I’m still not getting any royalty checks.”

 

 

 

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