December 03, 2013
— Ace Obama vows that no matter how badly Obamacare fails, and no matter how many people it harms, he's not repealing it. Ever.
Meanwhile, for the first time ever, Obama's RCP job approval has fallen below 40%.
A Megan McArdle column argues that Obama has given up on trying to make Obamacare work, per se; he's only attempting to keep it alive through the 2015 midterms.
The administration has given up on success, as it might once have defined it. The object is no longer 7 million people signed up through the exchanges, with 2.7 million of them young and healthy, and the health-care cost curve bending back toward the earth. It is to keep the program alive until 2015. The administration's priorities are, first, to keep Democrats from undoing the individual mandate or otherwise crippling the law; second, to keep insurers from raising premiums or exiting the marketplace; third, to tamp down loose talk about the failures on the exchanges; and, only fourth, to get to the place where it used to think it would be this year, with lots of people signed up for affordable insurance. It is now measuring the program’s success not by whether it meets its goals, but by whether it survives at all. And all of its choices are oriented toward this new priority.You can see this in the decisions the administration made about fixing HealthCare.gov: It focused on the part that voters can see, even though the part that accurately transmits data to insurers is arguably more important -- is it better, or actually worse, to “sign up” a bunch of people when you can’t get that information to the insurers who need to write the actual policies? You can see it in the strategic delays, particularly the delay of the open enrollment deadline until after the 2014 elections....
From the administration's perspective, this makes a lot of sense. A program that survives until 2015 can hopefully be fixed. A program that is fatally damaged by Democratic or insurer defections definitely canÂ’t. The question is whether the public will embrace this new way of measuring the programÂ’s success Â… and what happens if it doesn't.
A frequent guest on Megyn Kelly's show, Chris Stirewalt (I believe), has explained all of Obama's moves: Buy time. It's that simple. Everything he does (and, in fact, virtually everything he's ever done as President) is about buying time. Putting off hard decisions. Telling the public lies which will hold for a news cycle and hope that the ultimate price to be paid for determined serial deception will be minimal.
All of these dilatory tactics are common among failures, criminals, and liars. They don't want to pay the price for their actions; and, rationally speaking, who could blame them?
People who put off difficult decisions are hoping, in the end, that some Miracle intervenes between the present moment and the Day of Accounting to spare them that accounting entirely.
I'm not certain what miracle Obama thinks is on the way. I don't think people will grow to like the fact that they are spending an extra $300 on insurance every single month, forever. Progressives like to euphemize this as a "disruption;" it's not a disruption, as a disruption implies a limited-duration event which will soon pass. The ObamaTax will be levied on every single taxpayer from now until the bill is repealed.
But he seems to be counting on people doing just that, deciding they don't mind they were lied to constantly and are now being swindled out of $1000-$10,000 per year, every single year, until they day they die.
So like a chronic gambler, or a downgoing drunk, he just keeps putting off the day of reckoning, doubling down on bad bets and unsustainable lies, hoping someone, somewhere bails him out of a jam.
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fascinating article at Legal Insurrection. Subject needs much more attention:
http://tinyurl.com/ogmx9ve
Posted by: Mallfly at December 03, 2013 04:08 PM (bJm7W)
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Posted by: The Mullahs at December 03, 2013 04:11 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Jmel at December 03, 2013 04:12 PM (cfFqn)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at December 03, 2013 04:12 PM (qIeI4)
Posted by: Peggy at December 03, 2013 04:13 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at December 03, 2013 04:13 PM (P85Pz)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2013 04:13 PM (N/Sup)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at December 03, 2013 04:13 PM (qIeI4)
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I'm hoping it involves lightning bolts and a giant sinkhole.
Posted by: mama winger at December 03, 2013 04:14 PM (P6QsQ)
of course, there are two options if obama won't let ocare be repealed while he's president. he doesn't imagine that he could be impeached at all, does he?
Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at December 03, 2013 04:14 PM (nv8rt)
Posted by: Peggy at December 03, 2013 04:14 PM (0FSuD)
But I also think part of the play is to get enough people dependent upon the subsidies that there will be material for the stories to come about denying low income people "healthcare" and causing their deaths.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at December 03, 2013 04:14 PM (lh89W)
So like a chronic gambler, or a downgoing drunk, he just keeps putting off the day of reckoning, doubling down on bad bets and unsustainable lies, hoping someone, somewhere bails him out of a jam.
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Enter Chris Christy.
Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 04:15 PM (9sMM9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 03, 2013 04:15 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at December 03, 2013 08:12 PM (qIeI4)
Yep but it's much easier to boil the frog when you don't have a sudden Jan 1st 'disruption' that makes him feel the pain. So Obama is even doing this wrong.
Posted by: Mætenloch at December 03, 2013 04:15 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: toby928© in day four of mourning at December 03, 2013 04:16 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 04:16 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: RWC at December 03, 2013 04:16 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2013 04:16 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Mainstream Media at December 03, 2013 04:16 PM (P85Pz)
I get the analogy, but really, isn't he just like every other delusional dictator in history?
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2013 04:17 PM (nsOJa)
Posted by: toby928© in day four of mourning at December 03, 2013 04:17 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Pelosi Galore at December 03, 2013 04:18 PM (P85Pz)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 04:18 PM (0FSuD)
Heh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 04:18 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 03, 2013 04:18 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: blaster at December 03, 2013 04:19 PM (4+AaH)
Posted by: Barney at December 03, 2013 04:20 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Rachel Maddow at December 03, 2013 04:20 PM (P85Pz)
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 03, 2013 04:20 PM (JOgg0)
Posted by: oejay44cday at December 03, 2013 04:20 PM (3RFv9)
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Impeachment will never happen. The Republicans have all the toughness of Jim Messina. And I'm not talking about the Loggins and Messina one, but the Obama jiz guzzler.
Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at December 03, 2013 04:21 PM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: Mallfly at December 03, 2013 04:21 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 04:21 PM (lVPtV)
The New Obamacare Website Anthem:
Is that all there is?
Is that all there is?
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing.
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2013 04:21 PM (N/Sup)
At the rate their inflating the currency, that might be pocket change in a couple of years.
Posted by: toby928© in day four of mourning at December 03, 2013 08:17 PM (QupBk)
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Hell, it's pocket change now. $300 bucks doesn't last me that long
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 03, 2013 04:21 PM (jucos)
Posted by: David Brooks at December 03, 2013 04:22 PM (P85Pz)
So like a chronic gambler, or a downgoing drunk, he just keeps putting off the day of reckoning, doubling down on bad bets and unsustainable lies, hoping someone, somewhere bails him out of a jam.
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Tanned, rested and ready!
Posted by: John Boehner at December 03, 2013 04:22 PM (HzhBE)
I think you misunderstand. What Choom Boy is saying to us is: "I'll get my way if it kills you."
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2013 04:22 PM (csjXD)
Seriously, when millions of people are paying extra $$$ per month for insurance and copays starting in January does anyone expect this law to last anywhere close to the November elections?
Hint....I don't.
Posted by: Registered Voter at December 03, 2013 04:22 PM (Hdbf3)
Posted by: oejay44cday at December 03, 2013 04:22 PM (3RFv9)
Kill me now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 04:23 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Pastorius at December 03, 2013 04:23 PM (gMAUH)
Posted by: Tutu at December 03, 2013 04:23 PM (CpWI4)
Pull it out of your mouth first.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 04:23 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: toby928© in day four of mourning at December 03, 2013 04:23 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at December 03, 2013 04:24 PM (CRY7r)
Hey, silver linings, man.
Posted by: sandy burger at December 03, 2013 04:24 PM (6ClcK)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 04:25 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 03, 2013 04:25 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 04:25 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at December 03, 2013 04:25 PM (LsF5M)
Posted by: toby928© goes Godwin before 100 comments at December 03, 2013 04:25 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 03, 2013 04:25 PM (54dkR)
anyone ask him what he thought raising the minimum wage would do?
Posted by: Mallfly at December 03, 2013 04:25 PM (bJm7W)
I prefer a goatee working my magic wand.
Posted by: King Barky the Liar at December 03, 2013 04:25 PM (WGm5T)
Posted by: alexthechick SMODlings ho! at December 03, 2013 04:25 PM (g9hLU)
Posted by: 7 Days in May at December 03, 2013 04:26 PM (j6DTo)
Posted by: USA at December 03, 2013 04:26 PM (VIaw0)
This is another one of those reasons I left the ballot blank in '12.
It was maybe #3, after "don't get involved in Syria" and "let's not vote in someone to administer RomneyCare properly".
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 04:26 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 03, 2013 04:27 PM (4XFNL)
<i>Impeachment will never happen. The Republicans have all the toughness of Jim Messina. And I'm not talking about the Loggins and Messina one, but the Obama jiz guzzler. </i>
Even without an actual impeachment, when people actively consider it a possibility it takes away power from Obama. That is, when you make the threat to bend over or impeach, the people realize they have no power at all. I don't think the current crop of republican leadership will make much noise in this repect, but it can make people more likley to give people like Cruz a listen, and make democrats less likely to be willing to be seen as supporting Obama on issues.
Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at December 03, 2013 04:27 PM (nv8rt)
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at December 03, 2013 04:27 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 03, 2013 04:27 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: NCKate at December 03, 2013 04:27 PM (X/4E9)
Posted by: Furious George at December 03, 2013 04:27 PM (P85Pz)
I had to remind him (again) that the idiots who voted for his former commander-in-chief just wanted free shit and unicorns. That the majority of our citizens are good, decent, and hard-working.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 04:28 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Nikkolai at December 03, 2013 04:28 PM (lU7n4)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 03, 2013 04:28 PM (54dkR)
Posted by: Zombie Reagan at December 03, 2013 04:28 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2013 04:28 PM (hmUex)
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 03, 2013 04:30 PM (ygAxO)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 04:30 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 04:30 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: King Barky the Liar at December 03, 2013 04:30 PM (WGm5T)
Posted by: Barney at December 03, 2013 04:30 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: oejay44cday at December 03, 2013 04:31 PM (3RFv9)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 04:31 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 03, 2013 04:31 PM (KuZ6A)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2013 04:31 PM (N/Sup)
Well we know he's a big talker and BS artist. Unfortunately that means we'll see actual US citizens kill by this before it's gone.
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 03, 2013 04:31 PM (DL2i+)
Has there ever, in the history of the United States, been a president with trashy relatives living here on our dime?
Mind: Boggled.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 04:32 PM (lVPtV)
One thing that helps me explain Obama is to recall that he's a lawyer. But, as is all too typical of political lawyers, he's a lawyer who has never tried a case. What does that mean for explaining why he seems to be failing now?
1. Credibility. A trial lawyer knows that, from the moment he walks into the Court for the first scheduling conference with the judge, he has to maintain his credibility. He can't be late to Court, he can't bring frivolous or unnecessary motions, he can't misrepresent case law, he can't elide important facts from his briefs, etc. He can't lie, period. For Obama, lying (more charitably, "bull-shitting") is a way of life. It is the attitude of the lawyer who doesn't actually ever have to go before a judge, the lawyer who just sits around board rooms and talks to other lawyers.
2. Respect for different opinions. A trial lawyer must respect the positions even of his adversaries, because he must understand them in order to be able to defeat them. Moreover, the very fact that you're at trial means that someone (the opposing party) thinks your client has wronged him, and has found a lawyer who thinks your client has wronged him, and has persuaded the judge that there is enough of a case that your client has wronged him to go forward to a jury. When you are a trial lawyer, you realize, not just that there are two sides to every debate, but that both sides have at least some merit and, until the jury comes in, you really don't know which one is right. For Obama, any disagreement is the sign of mendacity or bad faith on the part of his adversaries. Because of that, he misses opportunities for compromise and creates a toxic political atmosphere, despite all of his vaunted claims to be "post-partisan."
3. Humility. When you're a trial lawyer, you lose a lot. Maybe not a lot of cases, but certainly a lot of motions. In my last jury trial (which I won), I lost a motion to dismiss, a motion for summary judgment, and a raft of motions in limine. I was right in the end, but I wasn't nearly as right as I thought, and it was a close-run thing. Obama's never had a trial that he lost, or a motion that he lost. He was an academic... he lived in a world where no one loses. And, in politics, he had a safe seat in the Illinois State Senate, a walk-over election to the U.S. Senate, an easy election to the Presidency (comparatively), and a fairly easy re-election as the incumbent. When did he ever have to learn humility?
4. Keeping promises. Rule No. 1 of trial practice is that, if you promise something to the jury -- if you stand up in opening argument and say that "the evidence will show X" or "the witness will testify that Y" -- well, you had better make good on that promise, or they'll hold it against you. Obama's promises on Obamacare -- "if you like your doctor, you can keep him" or "if you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period" -- haven't come true. And the American people, like a jury, remember that.
5. Don't be boring. Finally, real trial lawyers understand that even Clarence Darrow won't keep a jury's attention for very long. A ten minute opening that says something directly and forcefully is better than an hour-long opening that bores the jury. A fifteen-minute cross examination that eviscerates the credibility of a key witness for the other side is better than an hour-long cross that meanders through documents and topics, even if it covers the points better and in more detail. Don't bore them, don't waste their time, they've got better things to do. Obama has never realized this. No one (his mother? his grandparents? his teachers? his professors?) ever told him anything other than how brilliant he is as an "orator." But juries don't like orators, they like lawyers who get to the point and get them out of the box and home to their families.
The American people are Obama's judge and jury in this scenario. And he has proved to be a terrible advocate, even for his own legacy program, Obamacare.
Posted by: The Regular Guy at December 03, 2013 04:32 PM (nov+8)
Posted by: USA at December 03, 2013 04:32 PM (VIaw0)
Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at December 03, 2013 08:24 PM (CRY7r)
This has been a problem since Day 1. Boehner has the spine of Trent Lott and McConnell is more at war with the Conservatives than the donks.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 03, 2013 04:32 PM (JOgg0)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at December 03, 2013 08:13 PM (qIeI4)
You better believe that's a paddlin'.
Posted by: SARDiver at December 03, 2013 04:33 PM (7AQbW)
>> That the majority of our citizens are good, decent, and hard-working.
"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons."
Posted by: sandy burger at December 03, 2013 04:33 PM (6ClcK)
Posted by: oejay44cday at December 03, 2013 04:33 PM (3RFv9)
Kill me now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
heh:
"Who was standing behind Obama today? White House won't say"
"But Obama never said who those people were, and, unlike other events, the White House did not release their names or biographies. A spokesman later said the White House would not provide the information. A pool report called the group "19 individuals whom the White House said benefited from health care reform." Beyond that, their connection to Obamacare remains unknown."
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 03, 2013 04:33 PM (uCNam)
Remind him, too, that the current government is not the country. Carter preceded Reagan.
Posted by: Retread at December 03, 2013 04:33 PM (IiAs3)
Posted by: ontherocks at December 03, 2013 04:34 PM (DgCST)
0zero's post WH years ought to prove quite interesting. Wonder how he's going to hold up with all the post Presidential revelations of his time in office?
And there WILL be revelations. Too many people have to cover too much ass.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 03, 2013 04:34 PM (vvk2F)
"Do you know who I am? I'm Moe Greene! I made my bones when you were going out with cheerleaders!"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 03, 2013 04:34 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: crookedrecords at December 03, 2013 04:34 PM (WqqJb)
Posted by: oejay44cday at December 03, 2013 04:35 PM (3RFv9)
Posted by: WH stage hands at December 03, 2013 04:35 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: King Barky the Liar at December 03, 2013 04:35 PM (WGm5T)
Pretty sure that question can be asked of any AoSHQ thread
Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at December 03, 2013 04:36 PM (nv8rt)
Posted by: Furious George at December 03, 2013 04:36 PM (P85Pz)
Posted by: Chinese Dry Cleaner at December 03, 2013 04:36 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at December 03, 2013 04:37 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: WH stage hands at December 03, 2013 08:35 PM (0FSuD)
***
Or we could just get Chaz Bono.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2013 04:37 PM (N/Sup)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 03, 2013 04:37 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Penis Love Vagina at December 03, 2013 04:37 PM (kkbgQ)
Posted by: oejay44cday at December 03, 2013 04:37 PM (3RFv9)
The answer was not too long ago,"Hey guys, let's bomb Syria. Syria is bad now more than ever and so we're going to bomb them for a while. At least until we see how well this Obamacare roll out goes."
Posted by: CozMark (Platinum Member) at December 03, 2013 04:37 PM (nDeB2)
Posted by: The Don at December 03, 2013 04:38 PM (0FSuD)
Now back to our regularly scheduled program.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 04:38 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Chinese Dry Cleaner at December 03, 2013 08:36 PM (0FSuD)
Hai, how could I pay for new pant without you? You make fine clean pants all night long.
Posted by: King Barky the Liar at December 03, 2013 04:39 PM (WGm5T)
Posted by: Penis Loves Vagina at December 03, 2013 04:39 PM (kkbgQ)
>> because the GOP hasn't been fighting hard enough
I resent that statement. We in the GOP fight extremely hard... for our fair share of the pork pie.
Posted by: Trent Lott at December 03, 2013 04:39 PM (6ClcK)
Posted by: JQP at December 03, 2013 04:39 PM (U4GjV)
Posted by: Nick Saban at December 03, 2013 04:39 PM (bvtgt)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at December 03, 2013 04:39 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 03, 2013 04:40 PM (KuZ6A)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 03, 2013 04:40 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2013 04:40 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at December 03, 2013 04:41 PM (OhrW4)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 04:41 PM (0FSuD)
Now some folks say anus loves penis....and mean it unlike my promise of keeping your plan.
Posted by: King Barky the Liar at December 03, 2013 04:41 PM (WGm5T)
Posted by: oejay44cday at December 03, 2013 04:41 PM (3RFv9)
You're so cute! To think that the Federal bureaucracy and, indeed, Romney's own lobbyists would be allowing this.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 04:42 PM (Nsoq9)
Son comes home from A-stan with a documented back injury, goes to our local VA and is told "come back in six months."
Thanks, Obama voters, you stupid f*cks. Enjoy your long, slow, deaths when you get old and sick.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 04:42 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: CozMark (Platinum Member) at December 03, 2013 04:43 PM (6QN3y)
Title? 'Uncle Seamus'
It's too good to pass up.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 03, 2013 08:40 PM (aDwsi)
****
Now you're gonna make me blush!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- insightful folksy wise-ass at December 03, 2013 04:43 PM (N/Sup)
Posted by: crookedrecords
Hewitt and Benson were talking about a case of a girl with cancer who lost her insurance.
Think what could happen if the kid dies. Those parents aren't going to let it go quietly.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 03, 2013 04:44 PM (uCNam)
Posted by: oejay44cday at December 03, 2013 04:45 PM (3RFv9)
They made three holes, when the caddy couldn't make it any more. Dentist says, "You need to see a doctor as soon as possible."
Caddy replies, "The doc can see me in nine months."
Thanks again, Obama voters. DIAF.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 04:45 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 03, 2013 04:45 PM (4/o9U)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper at December 03, 2013 04:45 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 03, 2013 04:46 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: dustydog at December 03, 2013 04:47 PM (Rqd+i)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 03, 2013 08:46 PM (aDwsi)
***
OK- let's talk royalties!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- insightful folksy wise-ass at December 03, 2013 04:47 PM (N/Sup)
Posted by: Barky at December 03, 2013 04:48 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2013 04:48 PM (nsOJa)
Posted by: King Barky the Liar at December 03, 2013 04:48 PM (WGm5T)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 03, 2013 04:48 PM (hO8IJ)
Now back to our regularly scheduled program.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 08:38 PM (lVPtV)
Jane, feel your pain. Our kitteh found the mantel covered with glass ornaments. Quite a mess.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 03, 2013 04:49 PM (teFlO)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 03, 2013 04:49 PM (aDwsi)
Yeah, but people will die sooner under ObamaCare, so the accumulated cost won't be as high; so we have that going for us.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 03, 2013 04:50 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Stuttering Clusterfuck Society at December 03, 2013 04:50 PM (qCtp4)
People will get used to it after a while, then believe they cannot ever change. And that's the game: keep delaying until it becomes normal and people won't give up big daddy government's protection no matter how crappy it is.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 03, 2013 04:50 PM (zfY+H)
And his drooling idiots obey him.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 04:51 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Eton Cox at December 03, 2013 04:51 PM (q177U)
Posted by: mpfs at December 03, 2013 04:51 PM (x8AwZ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 03, 2013 04:51 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: RushBabe at December 03, 2013 04:52 PM (hrIP5)
Like this Social Security tax on my paycheck. And the Medicare tax on my paycheck.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 03, 2013 04:53 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Fritz at December 03, 2013 04:53 PM (TKFmG)
Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at December 03, 2013 04:53 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 03, 2013 04:54 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2013 04:54 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Barry 'Clubber Lang' Soetoro at December 03, 2013 04:54 PM (Pr6hk)
Kind of like how the majority of sheeple have accepted being felt-up and humiliated by the TSA?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 04:54 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: The New Completely unPC Minstrels... at December 03, 2013 04:55 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: Shoot Me at December 03, 2013 04:55 PM (qiXMt)
Posted by: oejay44cday at December 03, 2013 04:55 PM (3RFv9)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 04:55 PM (0FSuD)
Did someone need bail?
Posted by: McCain, Graham, Preibus, Cantor, and Norquist Discount Bonds at December 03, 2013 04:55 PM (eHIJJ)
>>>Jane, feel your pain. Our kitteh found the mantel covered with glass ornaments. Quite a mess.
.
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.Shatter proof ornaments, it's all the rage in our house.
Posted by: Registered Voter at December 03, 2013 04:56 PM (Hdbf3)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2013 04:56 PM (vTw62)
Huffpo article smugly sneers that GOP leaders are trashing the Obamacare website just as it's now working.
http://tinyurl.com/kcn4clo
I find the comments ... disturbing. What bubble do these cretins live in? They can't all be knowingly lying.
Can they?
Posted by: Warden at December 03, 2013 04:56 PM (HzhBE)
French conclude that Arafat died as a consequence of eating a bad frog.
***
That might also explain why Barney Francophile couldn't give his welcoming remarks for the French ambassador's visit.
He had a frog in his throat.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- insightful folksy wise-ass at December 03, 2013 04:56 PM (N/Sup)
Posted by: David Brooks at December 03, 2013 04:57 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: zombie at December 03, 2013 04:57 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 04:57 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 04:58 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: crookedrecords at December 03, 2013 04:58 PM (TKpwb)
Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2013 04:59 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2013 04:59 PM (vTw62)
Posted by: crookedrecords at December 03, 2013 08:58 PM (TKpwb)
I thought it was "amberlamps?"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 04:59 PM (lVPtV)
http://is.gd/yAKXYQ
But the man who signed the law creating the exchanges, and then signed the Indiana Waiver...he loves you and wants to give you free shit.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 03, 2013 04:59 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 03, 2013 04:59 PM (xSegX)
Obamacare was simply a smokescreen to hide behind while the policies get snuffed. Smokescreens are never permanent.
The whole point of Obamacare was to cancel the policies.
Ending private insurance is the goal. Always was.
Posted by: Jose Wales at December 03, 2013 05:00 PM (lPbS1)
Can they?
Posted by: Warden
No, not all. The hardcore commies are prolly only about 10% of the Left. (that is to say those that actually believe in socialism, not the fascists like Obama who use it as a tool.)
The rest of the delusional commenters at huffpoo are zealots; take the wildest stereotype of a fundamentalist and replace god with government. Boom.
Zealots to the end.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 03, 2013 05:01 PM (uCNam)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:01 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: thunderb at December 03, 2013 05:01 PM (EJOqh)
Posted by: america at December 03, 2013 05:01 PM (4NEdy)
As she was leaving the next morning (and backing her Honda or whatever over our FRONT LAWN), we noticed she's added to her Obama-worship on her bumper. An "Obama 44" sticker. Yay.
Jeebus. I love her, but want to kill her. Violently.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 05:02 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 05:02 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2013 05:03 PM (qCtp4)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 05:03 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Mike at December 03, 2013 05:04 PM (Rk8LS)
Posted by: baldilocks at December 03, 2013 05:05 PM (Vd55+)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2013 05:05 PM (vTw62)
Posted by: Taggart at December 03, 2013 05:05 PM (Ph479)
Yes, there it is. The dreaded "I' word that our framers purposely inserted into our Constitution. This is exactly the type of lawless, oath breaking, mendacious, despotic tyrant they anticipated when crafting that section.
Yet, we hear nothing? Why? Because that is unthinkable by the permanent political class in Washington who put their own self interest above ours. They opine or imply it would be perhaps racist or politically risky- and who is less apt to risk what they believe is their coming political electoral fortune.
We don't have anyone in Washington who stands for the Constitution or rule of law. Nobody with a set of stones or the moxie to stand up for the people and what is right. Just a bunch of self-serving oligarchs or oligarchs-in-waiting. They don't fight for anyone but themselves.
Posted by: Marcus at December 03, 2013 05:06 PM (5RVx8)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:06 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: sandy burger at December 03, 2013 05:07 PM (6ClcK)
This is coming apart at the seams.<<<
Watching Kelly, my pants are coming apart at the seams.
(I know, I know, why bother with pants anyway)
Posted by: typical moron at December 03, 2013 05:07 PM (bvtgt)
Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2013 05:07 PM (zqvg6)
You don't know what you've got til it's gone.
Posted by: baldilocks at December 03, 2013 09:05 PM (Vd55+)
Awesome! Thanks!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 05:07 PM (lVPtV)
This is coming apart at the seams.
So help me, you better mean her top.
Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at December 03, 2013 05:07 PM (Gk3SS)
Biden 2016: Forget health care, let's talk high speed rail
Posted by: sandy burger at December 03, 2013 05:08 PM (6ClcK)
nor the matrix-y one
nor the dystopian mad max-y one
nor the morlock-eloi one
or brazil.
the future is where everybody does nothing much but talk until the money runs out, then says what the hell we wuz working so hard on this
Posted by: Bigby's Pimp Hand at December 03, 2013 05:08 PM (RLTt1)
At what point does the schadenfreude get edged out by genuine concern for the President's mental health? I'm starting to worry he's gonna crack under the pressure.
Worry? That doesn't sound like a bad thing to me at all.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 03, 2013 05:08 PM (VdOTu)
Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at December 03, 2013 05:08 PM (ZG3Fa)
Posted by: Chandoo at December 03, 2013 05:09 PM (2ArJQ)
Posted by: Reggie Love at December 03, 2013 05:09 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: phreshone at December 03, 2013 05:10 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: runninrebel at December 03, 2013 05:10 PM (8nDPF)
And liberals will still be in denial.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 05:10 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 05:10 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: baldilocks at December 03, 2013 09:05 PM (Vd55+)
______________________
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 03, 2013 05:11 PM (jucos)
Posted by: CAC at December 03, 2013 05:11 PM (3cvgZ)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:12 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Ringo Phonebone at December 03, 2013 05:12 PM (pnwfX)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:14 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: EC at December 03, 2013 05:15 PM (doBIb)
She just said that Reuters is reporting that since the payment system isn't even written for the website Obama has agreed to let the insurance companies "estimate" how much they should get paid and the feds will cut them a check.
They are just making this shit up on the fly. Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 09:10 PM (g1DWB)
*ragetwitches on floor*
How can the payment system not be written by now? HOW COULD IT NOT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN FIRST ARRRGGGHHHHH ALEXSMASH ARRRGHHHHH
*stompys all over*
In other news, I cried until I laughed until I cried at the truth of this:
http://bit.ly/1eNnTRs
Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at December 03, 2013 05:15 PM (Gk3SS)
Fox just played the Bambi quote: "They're not going to repeal it as long as I'm President."
As Jim Geraghty at NR says, every Obama promise comes with an expiration date.
I pick July 12, 2014 for this one.
By the way, Megyn Kelly is HOT.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at December 03, 2013 05:15 PM (uOjsD)
Posted by: Douchebags Everywhere at December 03, 2013 05:16 PM (h+yZ9)
Whoa, let's not get carried away.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 03, 2013 05:17 PM (2DunM)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:17 PM (0FSuD)
>> work on taking back the public indoctrination system
Amen, brother.
I don't know much else about him, but at least Scott Walker has accomplished something of value on this front.
Posted by: sandy burger at December 03, 2013 05:17 PM (6ClcK)
Posted by: D1st at December 03, 2013 05:18 PM (fIkHQ)
Does anyone really believe the GOP will alter Senate rules to allow a simple majority to pass a repeal bill?
As we speak the GOP-e is trying to figure out how to screw conservatives and what would be the best time to introduce a comprehensive amnesty bill to fracture the base.
The GOP is worthless in every way imaginable.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2013 05:19 PM (hmUex)
Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2013 05:19 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at December 03, 2013 05:19 PM (qIeI4)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:19 PM (0FSuD)
I have been a good wee alex. I have not stompyed nearly the number of people who deserve it.
It better damn well go to plaid.
Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at December 03, 2013 05:19 PM (Gk3SS)
I couldn't hate these people more. And according to our former Marine, they hate their C-i-C with the heat of a million suns.
Good job, low-info voters. Good job.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 05:19 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: mpfs at December 03, 2013 05:21 PM (x8AwZ)
Posted by: over at The Federalist at December 03, 2013 05:21 PM (3cvgZ)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 05:22 PM (lZBBB)
I know a BUNCH of uninsured people who are NOT, under any circumstances, going to buy any insurance. They will simply pay the penalties- which will still be $800 by 2023. That's still a lot less than $300 for one adult.
Posted by: shibumi at December 03, 2013 05:22 PM (25HWz)
Can't wait.
*throws back entire glass of wine*
It's our son, dealing with a "bit" of PTSD I'm worried about. He won't suffer those idiots gladly.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 05:22 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 03, 2013 05:22 PM (h+yZ9)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at December 03, 2013 05:22 PM (qIeI4)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 05:22 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2013 05:23 PM (hFL/3)
45 Sultan Knish has an outstanding piece on how pretty fucking soon the donks will start peeling away from Gaylord Focker in preparation for Rodham or some other nitbrain being the next big thing
Speaking of nitbrains, Vermont's Socialist Senator Sanders said today he may run for Pres in 2016,
Bet Lizzy Warren is pissed.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at December 03, 2013 05:23 PM (uOjsD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:23 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: CAC at December 03, 2013 05:24 PM (3cvgZ)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at December 03, 2013 05:24 PM (qIeI4)
Of course it takes a 2/3rd to over ride a Presidential veto.
I'm talking about a repeal bill.
Let the President veto it. Again and again and again and again.....
This is a god damned war we're in, the fate of this nation is holding on by a fucking thread.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2013 05:24 PM (hmUex)
So lets say boom I'm an insurance company, am I gonna trust the govt that they are going to pay me my estimate and then not come a knocking later?
Ha ha ha. If hese stupid bastards (insurance companies) will still believe they can save themselves by working with Obastard, they are gonna be in for a big surprise.
The only way they can save themselves is fight Odeathcare tooth and nail.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 03, 2013 05:25 PM (caCiW)
Posted by: over at The Federalist at December 03, 2013 09:21 PM (3cvgZ)
Well played. Well played.
Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at December 03, 2013 05:25 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Bashar al Assad at December 03, 2013 05:25 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:25 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Naes1984 at December 03, 2013 05:26 PM (zeV2E)
Posted by: mpfs at December 03, 2013 05:26 PM (x8AwZ)
What's gonna happen in January:
Lots of people make their first payment for their new Obamacare policy. Right about the time the Christmas bills come in the mail.
What's gonna happen in February:
Nobody makes the second payment on their Obamacare policy.
This is what set off the mortgage crisis, people were getting repeated refinances and all of a sudden half of them didn't make a second payment and went straight to default. A fair number never even made the first payment.
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2013 05:26 PM (WxJTH)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 05:27 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: John Wayne Bobbit at December 03, 2013 05:27 PM (HzhBE)
Posted by: Tip O'Neill at December 03, 2013 05:27 PM (NHO7i)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 09:23 PM (0FSuD)
When we lived in Germany back in the day, my dad drove our only car to work on base. My mom shopped in the commissary on Saturday, which was the only place to buy American-made food. Same on most European (and Pacific) bases. It's going to hurt military families who don't always have access to off-base shopping (if they have one vehicle).
It's another slap in the face of our military. It's inexcusable. I hope we bring back the draft, and every single Prince and Princess is eligible, whether in college or not. I'm pissed as hell.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 05:27 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Grand Moff Obama at December 03, 2013 05:27 PM (oFCZn)
RE: XMas with the libtards, it seems to me that once and a while, a better strategy might be to get headaches. Horrible, horrible headaches that require you, and your son, to stay home.
Might be easier for everyone. Just saying...
Posted by: shibumi at December 03, 2013 05:28 PM (25HWz)
In 2023 what will $800 be worth in today's dollars?
Posted by: The Hickster at December 03, 2013 05:28 PM (DUGve)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:28 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at December 03, 2013 05:28 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: EC at December 03, 2013 05:29 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Der Furher at December 03, 2013 05:29 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2013 05:29 PM (nsOJa)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 05:30 PM (lZBBB)
It was nice while it lasted.
My husband's a business owner. His plan shot up 30% two years ago, and 56% this year. He's changed policies with a higher co-pay and deductible. He's warned his employees (and me) that we will probably lose our policy when the the employer mandate kicks in. It scares the hell out of us.
As he told his employees November a year ago (several are Obamabots), "Remember, elections have consequences." Now, his employees are freaking out. Too late, jackasses.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 05:31 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: --- at December 03, 2013 05:31 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:31 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at December 03, 2013 05:32 PM (dtuXM)
Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2013 05:32 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 05:33 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 05:33 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:34 PM (0FSuD)
His mental state has been fucked up since childhood.
And he's not going to try to hang himself in the Oval Office with his tie because he doesn't wear ties to the Oval Office.
My major concern is that someone gets too pissed off, and he becomes a JFK-esque martyr and then he'll be an even bigger messiahanic-cult figure than he already is, and we'll never fucking hear the end of how brilliant and giving he was.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 03, 2013 05:34 PM (hO8IJ)
This, at least, won't happen. Republicans promise this to the
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 05:35 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: phreshone at December 03, 2013 05:35 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 03, 2013 05:36 PM (IN7k+)
Now, if the candidate keeps his yap shut on this, and then moves it anyway, I'll support his re election.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 05:36 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 09:33 PM (lVPtV)
It's not as big as mine.
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at December 03, 2013 05:37 PM (Pr6hk)
And we're still supposed to believe he's a practicing "Christian?"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 05:37 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Mega at December 03, 2013 05:39 PM (4/o9U)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 03, 2013 05:40 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 03, 2013 05:40 PM (XWw96)
Posted by: Naes1984 at December 03, 2013 05:41 PM (zeV2E)
I've said similar things before but let me say again that the Middle Class Squeeze is on.
Anything that you need is going to continue to rise in price, food, energy, health care, medicine, healthcare insurance...
Its always opposite of what the TFG says, he says help the middle class means there is an absolute war on the middle class.... people worried about food are less of a problem to them.
So they are currently forcing 2 choice on the middle class (people with assets) either submit yourself to the exchange for subsidies and get reduced care, identity theft and subject to govt whims or stay with private insurance and pay thru the nose until you are bankrupt and then go to the exchange.
War on the Middle Class is what the Leftists always do.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 03, 2013 05:41 PM (caCiW)
The GOP could always reverse that immediately afterward, citing the precedent . . . if they had a spine.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 05:41 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: Chrissy Liebowitz at December 03, 2013 05:42 PM (iB0Q2)
Posted by: Kathleen Sebilius at December 03, 2013 05:42 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 03, 2013 05:42 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 03, 2013 05:42 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Torch 'n' Pitchfork Industries, Inc. at December 03, 2013 05:43 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 03, 2013 05:44 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Hans Gruber at December 03, 2013 05:44 PM (4/o9U)
Posted by: Naes1984 at December 03, 2013 05:44 PM (zeV2E)
Posted by: Vendette at December 03, 2013 05:45 PM (gferp)
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at December 03, 2013 05:45 PM (QB4Dm)
Posted by: name at December 03, 2013 05:46 PM (KqnY1)
Posted by: Sphynx at December 03, 2013 05:47 PM (cll/q)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at December 03, 2013 05:47 PM (deaac)
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2013 05:47 PM (nsOJa)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 03, 2013 05:48 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 03, 2013 05:48 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 03, 2013 05:49 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:49 PM (0FSuD)
"I couldn't hate these people more. And according to our former Marine, they hate their C-i-C with the heat of a million suns"
I haven't been on camp pendleton in a while but I cannot believe how many obama stickers are on military personal vehicles at 32nd st naval station. It's kind of depressing...
Posted by: crookedrecords at December 03, 2013 05:49 PM (1RAcn)
Were Democrats always this awful and stupid?
This is the exemplar of the New Left...oblivious incompetent smiling chucklehead morons.
But, they are still qutie proud of their boy, they one the jacked up and off for all to see.
Fucking greek columns all over the place, just for him...who will cause the goddamned seas to rise.
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at December 03, 2013 05:50 PM (HQml1)
Posted by: Prez'nit Wimpy at December 03, 2013 05:50 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Naes1984 at December 03, 2013 05:51 PM (zeV2E)
http://tinyurl.com/kgak9jm
Posted by: kbdabear at December 03, 2013 05:52 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Barry O at December 03, 2013 05:52 PM (2Oz15)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 05:54 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Andy Dufresne at December 03, 2013 05:54 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: crookedrecords at December 03, 2013 09:49 PM (1RAcn)
Are you kidding?? On Okinawa, our son said he and his fellow NCOs and a few officers would be hanging out in an office and the Obama bashing was non-stop...until a certain Obamabot captain would show up. And they'd shut it. The captain was the only bot they knew of.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 05:54 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Prez'nit Wimpy at December 03, 2013 05:55 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Naes1984 at December 03, 2013 05:55 PM (zeV2E)
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at December 03, 2013 05:55 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: The Fuse on the Employer Mandate Bomb at December 03, 2013 05:57 PM (PIsea)
Posted by: Mel Gibson at December 03, 2013 05:57 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Sen. Juan "Santiago" McCain at December 03, 2013 05:58 PM (Dwehj)
I love Christmas, except for the decorating of the tree. And the Obamabot in-laws on Christmas day. Other than that, I'm fine.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 05:58 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 03, 2013 05:59 PM (6/+vz)
Posted by: crookedrecords at December 03, 2013 05:59 PM (1RAcn)
Posted by: Sandra Flook at December 03, 2013 05:59 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: The Hickster at December 03, 2013 06:00 PM (DUGve)
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 03, 2013 06:00 PM (6/+vz)
Not as long as the bread and circuses keep coming.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 03, 2013 06:00 PM (BrrWI)
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 03, 2013 06:01 PM (6/+vz)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 06:02 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: LIV at December 03, 2013 06:03 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Naes1984 at December 03, 2013 06:03 PM (zeV2E)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 06:03 PM (lVPtV)
No electrons are not scattered back from holes.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 03, 2013 06:03 PM (DUGve)
Posted by: Low Information Voter at December 03, 2013 06:03 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Ceasar Milan at December 03, 2013 06:04 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 03, 2013 06:05 PM (6/+vz)
Posted by: Dr. Gosnell at December 03, 2013 06:05 PM (Pr6hk)
Are you kidding?? On Okinawa, our son said he and his fellow NCOs and a few officers would be hanging out in an office and the Obama bashing was non-stop...until a certain Obamabot captain would show up. And they'd shut it. The captain was the only bot they knew of.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 09:54 PM (lVPtV)
Unfortunately not, but it may be an officer / enlisted thing. There are also a lot of Louisiana license plates on mid 80's monte carlos with 24 inch rims and paint jobs that look like a bass fishing lure so....
Posted by: crookedrecords at December 03, 2013 06:06 PM (1RAcn)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at December 03, 2013 06:07 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: crookedrecords at December 03, 2013 09:59 PM (1RAcn)
Everything he does is calculated to shit on everything American. If its a long standing tradition, he shits on it. If its something uniquely American, he shits on it. If its a piece of our history, he shits on it. You're dealing with an asshole who didn't grow up here, and is no different than any anti-American piece of shit foreigner.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 03, 2013 06:07 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 03, 2013 06:08 PM (6/+vz)
Posted by: Frank Davis Marshall at December 03, 2013 06:08 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at December 03, 2013 06:09 PM (6RwsK)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 06:09 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Peaches at December 03, 2013 06:10 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 03, 2013 06:12 PM (PIsea)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at December 03, 2013 06:12 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 06:13 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 03, 2013 06:13 PM (4/o9U)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 06:13 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Peaches at December 03, 2013 06:13 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Vendette at December 03, 2013 06:14 PM (gferp)
Posted by: blue.dot at December 03, 2013 06:14 PM (TP6sz)
Speaking of not wearing ties into the oval office,
has any other american presidentbeen photographed with their feet on the
presidents desk as much as this guy? WTF over? Every other pic I see
he's just sittin' back with both feet on the desk or standing withone
foot on the desk. I've never ever seen anyone stand with one foot on a
desk period and this guy does it like he looks cool or something. It's
an fing piece of history...
Posted by: crookedrecords at December 03, 2013 09:59 PM
It could be a deliberate act of disrespect. But, in this case I suspect it's more about him. Barry does it coz it's what Snoop Dog would do.
Posted by: otho at December 03, 2013 06:16 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: blue.dot at December 03, 2013 06:16 PM (TP6sz)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 06:16 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 10:13 PM (t3UFN)
Oh, honey, I have come close to suicide in that situation. Back when I wasn't old and desperate, I would tell 'em straight out at the interview, I don't do meetings and I sure as hell don't do conference calls. If anyone says anything worth hearing, send me an email. Fuck, I am so sorry for your day. Can I scoot you a beer or a parlie through the interwebs? Got plenty of both, actually, they're all yours, darlin'
Posted by: Peaches at December 03, 2013 06:16 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 03, 2013 10:12 PM (PIsea)
Well, I was thinking he was cut from the same cloth as the other types that don;t admire us. You know, the kind that shoot ak47s into the air at "weddings".
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 03, 2013 06:16 PM (FMbng)
"It could be a deliberate act of disrespect. But, in this case I suspect it's more about him. Barry does it coz it's what Snoop Dog would do. "
yeah Obama really acts like a hood dude
wtf people
Posted by: blue.dot at December 03, 2013 06:16 PM (TP6sz)
Posted by: Orlandocon ette at December 03, 2013 06:17 PM (SldZ2)
Posted by: fluffy at December 03, 2013 06:18 PM (2Oz15)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 06:18 PM (zOTsN)
I must be naive because I thought everyone had the right equipment to motorboat someone.
And If this site has taught me anything don't Google it.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 03, 2013 06:18 PM (DUGve)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 06:19 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 06:20 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Peaches at December 03, 2013 06:20 PM (8lmkt)
I think blue.dot is trying to troll us. How droll.
Care to explain why after 5 years and 600 million dollars Fearless Leader can't even produce a working website, troll?
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 03, 2013 06:20 PM (VdOTu)
Posted by: Naes1984 at December 03, 2013 06:21 PM (zeV2E)
Posted by: Peaches at December 03, 2013 10:20 PM (8lmkt)
I'm thinking any female boobehs are good boobehs.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 03, 2013 06:21 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 06:22 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 03, 2013 06:23 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Feather not Dot at December 03, 2013 06:23 PM (zOTsN)
This leads me to wonder if Barry believes in sorcery.
Well, I have been sticking pins in an Obamacare doll for some time now...
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 03, 2013 06:23 PM (VdOTu)
Posted by: Oddball at December 03, 2013 06:23 PM (lZBBB)
Unfortunately for me my mind too often sticks to how I read it first and other possibilities only reveal them selves after hitting post. I get it now.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 03, 2013 06:24 PM (DUGve)
Posted by: polka.dot at December 03, 2013 06:25 PM (Il3yZ)
that blow.dot feller never will understand the difference between health care and health insurance.
but don't blame him, he's dumb.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 03, 2013 06:27 PM (caCiW)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 06:28 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Dot Not Feather at December 03, 2013 06:28 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 03, 2013 06:28 PM (VdOTu)
wtf people
Posted by: blue.dot at December 03, 2013 10:16 PM
No, I'm saying Barry WISHES he could act like a mack daddy. Yo, bitch.. he tries really fucking hard. But, he'l always be the Milli Vanilli of gangstas.
Posted by: otho at December 03, 2013 06:29 PM (9gNQd)
Dumb fucks will be back to playing "knockout" and dumpster diving.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 06:29 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: red.dot at December 03, 2013 06:30 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Naes1984 at December 03, 2013 06:30 PM (zeV2E)
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 03, 2013 10:28 PM (VdOTu)
We've never had a quality troll here, not in the years I've been around, anyway. Perhaps that is just a contradiction in terms.
Oh, and, otho, you are SO right. That nancy-boy would be road kill in no time in Compton.
Posted by: Peaches at December 03, 2013 06:31 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: NWConservative at December 03, 2013 06:32 PM (M1gmo)
Blue balls.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 03, 2013 06:32 PM (4NEdy)
Posted by: red.dot at December 03, 2013 06:33 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: gewa76 at December 03, 2013 06:33 PM (k8m83)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 06:35 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Naes1984 at December 03, 2013 06:35 PM (zeV2E)
Posted by: Moth Balls at December 03, 2013 06:35 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: acat at December 03, 2013 06:36 PM (4UkCP)
Posted by: french forensic laboratory at December 03, 2013 06:36 PM (4NEdy)
Posted by: Peaches at December 03, 2013 10:36 PM (8lmkt)
Back atcha!
*Jeebus, a creepy Zales video ad just popped up in the corner of this site...the hell????
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 06:37 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Vendette at December 03, 2013 06:38 PM (gferp)
Posted by: Peaches at December 03, 2013 06:41 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: gewa76 at December 03, 2013 06:41 PM (k8m83)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 03, 2013 06:41 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Peaches at December 03, 2013 06:41 PM (8lmkt)
I'd troll you guys good, but my software isn't working. Give Obama a month, though and boy are you wingers gonna b*#ndeiiii0101010101010110 -----------------------------------------------==++++++#
Posted by: www.dot.gov at December 03, 2013 06:42 PM (32fP6)
Posted by: The Bismuth Hat at December 03, 2013 06:42 PM (Vk2pI)
Lucky fucking me. Kill me now. For realz.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2013 06:44 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Peaches at December 03, 2013 06:46 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Moth Balls at December 03, 2013 06:46 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: NCwoof at December 03, 2013 06:48 PM (aUQgu)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 03, 2013 06:48 PM (JMmQ9)
Like it? No. Tolerate it, like $4 gas? Well, it's not like anyone has much of a choice. The JEF is banking on keeping it around long enough that the extra $300 becomes the new normal - again, just like $4 gas. So, of course, he and his claque in the MFM are doing the very best to manage perception, and rush people through the period of transition as quickly as possible.
Posted by: Brown Line at December 03, 2013 06:53 PM (a5bF3)
Posted by: Broke-Ass College Student at December 03, 2013 07:12 PM (OVV8c)
Posted by: asdf at December 03, 2013 07:13 PM (lKGzI)
He's a BS artist, that's all. A common street con man. Obama isn't competent at anything and cannot stand anyone who is. His one talent is campaigning and that relies on his BS. Which is why he always returns to the campaign trail instead of fixing problems or firing incompetents.
Posted by: Adjoran at December 03, 2013 07:36 PM (473jB)
Posted by: John at December 03, 2013 07:42 PM (+bwws)
Posted by: yujin at December 03, 2013 07:44 PM (uNd+K)
Posted by: yujin at December 03, 2013 07:55 PM (uNd+K)
second, to keep insurers from raising premiums or exiting the marketplace (In McArdle's bloomberg piece.)
This is Obama's fundamental transformation of the United States that he was bragging about in 2008. The Federal Government will dictate to a company what price it will charge for it's product, and will force that company to remain in business
Fascism, straight up.
Posted by: For the record at December 03, 2013 08:37 PM (GihMY)
Michael Cannon of the Cato Institute testifying before Congress that it's coming to the point that if the federal government's behavior is setting the stage for armed revolt.
Here's the nut graf, as the newsies like to say:
“That is certainly something that no one wants to contemplate,” he continued. “If the people come to believe that the government is no longer constrained by the laws then they will conclude that neither are they.”
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 03, 2013 08:43 PM (FvyJS)
Posted by: jane at December 03, 2013 08:48 PM (dVM+/)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 03, 2013 10:07 PM (VVsZ2)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 03, 2013 10:10 PM (VVsZ2)
Posted by: FOAF at December 03, 2013 11:58 PM (rZ7kp)
O-bah-muhh is hoping someone, somewhere, bails him out of a jam.......
In other news Republicans vow to pass Amnesty bill.
Posted by: Death Is Not The Worst Of Evils at December 04, 2013 04:39 AM (nbGZj)
Posted by: X at December 04, 2013 05:17 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: adc at December 04, 2013 07:01 AM (9BA4z)
Posted by: perturbed at December 04, 2013 07:35 AM (TXq4O)
If anyone doubted Obama's desire to destroy the United States, it should be be gone. I guess that leaves the Communists in charge,
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Posted by: burt at December 04, 2013 08:17 AM (1+kJ5)
Posted by: Jen at December 04, 2013 10:05 AM (z6rIp)
Posted by: Tom at December 04, 2013 11:07 AM (VHfsw)
Rumor has it guillotines are being constructed in a secret DC warehouse by NON-UNION carpenters. Film @ 11
Posted by: cuchieddie at December 04, 2013 03:07 PM (BYOka)
Posted by: Veritas at December 05, 2013 09:31 PM (UOONO)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 06, 2013 01:17 PM (LSDdO)
You know, until all the necessary pieces are in position for . . . ?
He carries himself as if he KNOWS what he does now won't matter later.
And that's scary. Either his role is to be a catalyst for martial law or to trigger the ultimate rending of the social fabric of the US.
The constant chaos and confusions does not lend itself to thoughts of positive outcomes.
For ANYONE.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 06, 2013 01:20 PM (LSDdO)
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