June 25, 2013
— Ace Obama's Big Climate Change Speech drops today. Video under the fold, and check out Ross Douthat's column, excerpted at Hot Air, about Obama's relentless focus on Lifestyle Liberal issues while he ignores the ones most people actually care about.
After all, gun control, immigration reform and climate change arenÂ’t just random targets of opportunity. TheyÂ’re pillars of Acela Corridor ideology, core elements of Bloombergism, places where Obama-era liberalism overlaps with the views of Davos-goers and the Wall Street 1 percent. If you move in those circles, the political circumstances donÂ’t necessarily matter: these ideas always look like uncontroversial common sense.Step outside those circles, though, and the timing of their elevation looks at best peculiar, at worst perverse. The president decided to make gun control legislation a major second-term priority Â… with firearm homicides at a 30-year low. Congress is pursuing a sharp increase in low-skilled immigration Â… when the foreign-born share of the American population is already headed for historical highs. The administration is drawing up major new carbon regulations Â… when actual existing global warming has been well below projections for 15 years and counting.
An Obama advisor has declared that while Obama won't be so straightforward to mention a War on Coal, "a War on Coal is exactly what's needed." He really said that.
In line with a summer tentpole movie release, Obama has already released the speech to friendly critics-- liberals like those at CAP, which is sort of the Ain't It Cool News of Transnational Progressivism.
You gotta watch the "Redband Speech Trailer" below. The piano tinkle, an insipid theme vaguely suggesting Hope and Change, is a micro-commercial jingle designed to stick in your head.
It's all about branding. Not so much about governing.
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Posted by: andycanuck at June 25, 2013 08:30 AM (9+vDU)
Posted by: Mallfly at June 25, 2013 08:30 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Barakhenaten I at June 25, 2013 08:30 AM (R14nX)
Posted by: Roy at June 25, 2013 08:30 AM (VndSC)
http://tinyurl.com/narwhaldb
Posted by: Bronco Bama at June 25, 2013 08:30 AM (hHgxI)
But I doubt my prayers will be answered.
Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 08:31 AM (lZvxr)
Not sure what they did to be famous, but they seem to manipulate the press quite well.
Although I would rather not see an Obama sex tape.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2013 08:33 AM (WW8xK)
Posted by: Bronco Bama at June 25, 2013 08:33 AM (hHgxI)
Posted by: Don LaFontaine at June 25, 2013 08:33 AM (a+nyb)
I'm not drunk enough to read that sentence all the way through.
Posted by: Filly at June 25, 2013 08:33 AM (gr/p1)
Posted by: joncelli at June 25, 2013 08:33 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at June 25, 2013 08:34 AM (da5Wo)
Who will prosecute?
Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 08:34 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 25, 2013 08:34 AM (Kppp9)
Just wait until Obama's sex tape comes out.
Posted by: Vlad Low-Hanging Putin at June 25, 2013 08:34 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: soothsayer, malicious communicator at June 25, 2013 08:34 AM (yhYn1)
Posted by: Bronco Bama at June 25, 2013 08:34 AM (hHgxI)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 25, 2013 08:34 AM (lVPtV)
??? Huh- "core elements of Bloombergism"
Please tell me that is pronounced with a hard "g" sound.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 25, 2013 08:34 AM (ND7TC)
It's always the same speech anyway.
"We must all come together in diversity to solve the problems of the future"
Posted by: Methos at June 25, 2013 08:34 AM (hO9ad)
this is not about branding or lifestyle
this is a wealth redistribution program.
energy costs will necessarily sky rocket
"wealthy" Americans will carry the burden
Bamapho Americans will be subsidized
Middle class Americans will pay the energy bill and the cost to support the Bamapho energy consumption
its all about "environmental justice"
Posted by: thunderb at June 25, 2013 08:35 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2013 08:35 AM (XYSwB)
Barack Obama stars as Barack Obama in a Barack Obama production of a Barack Obama Best Selling poem
WET PELTS AND CRUNCHY FIGS
Posted by: garrett at June 25, 2013 08:35 AM (R14nX)
Posted by: steevy at June 25, 2013 08:35 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 25, 2013 08:35 AM (V1ZIU)
It's all about branding. Not so much about governing.
He's campaigning again. This is nothing more than a glorified campaign ad.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 25, 2013 08:36 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 25, 2013 08:36 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2013 08:36 AM (AmWlQ)
Posted by: Bronco Bama at June 25, 2013 08:36 AM (hHgxI)
I will not ragestroke at work
Posted by: BCochran1981 at June 25, 2013 12:34 PM (da5Wo)
Why not? All the cool kids are doing it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 25, 2013 08:36 AM (4df7R)
energy producers headed by progtards will get the GE treatment
energy producers who object will get the tea party treatment
winners and losers
Posted by: thunderb at June 25, 2013 08:37 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: tony redenzo at June 25, 2013 08:37 AM (MfZ76)
Posted by: angel with a sword at June 25, 2013 08:37 AM (sYNwJ)
Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 08:37 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: Mallfly at June 25, 2013 08:38 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Hoystory at June 25, 2013 08:38 AM (7YSBH)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 25, 2013 08:38 AM (D5iHx)
Posted by: thunderb at June 25, 2013 08:38 AM (nH8jP)
It is bad enough to wake up every morning knowing that the president of the country I love is working actively to destroy it and bring maximum misery to anyone who doesn't share his hate-filled, knee-jerk racist agenda. Why watch while he sells even more stupidity to those fog-brained liberal do-gooders who worship him?
A video of orange-coverall-clad President Historic First© being escorted in manacles to his new home at Pelican Bay, however, would cheer me up considerably. I might think, for one moment, that there's hope left for the nation.
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 25, 2013 08:38 AM (/RIVS)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at June 25, 2013 08:38 AM (da5Wo)
Awesome plan. Except that when Republicans lie to dummies to get their votes, the dummies are always us.
Posted by: Methos at June 25, 2013 08:38 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2013 08:38 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 08:39 AM (+98Gb)
He knows he's not living in "The West Wing" tv show, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2013 12:36 PM (AmWlQ)
No.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 25, 2013 08:39 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Mikey at June 25, 2013 08:39 AM (db4pz)
The number of fallacies and gaps in rational thought hit the double digits in the first minute, and it went on for 5 minutes.
Better than up your ass, I always say. But this is the shit that gets the LIVs. Because stupid fucking people will let afterthought-market DJs inform them on the truths of climate science.
Posted by: grognard at June 25, 2013 08:39 AM (/29Nl)
Anyone ever tell you the story of King Canute and the sea?
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 25, 2013 08:39 AM (Kppp9)
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 25, 2013 08:39 AM (XUKZU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATTknP8t7JU
Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2013 08:39 AM (AmWlQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at June 25, 2013 08:39 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Bronco Bama at June 25, 2013 08:40 AM (hHgxI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at June 25, 2013 12:38 PM (da5Wo)
And he still acts like he's been an outsider during that time.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 08:40 AM (9Mux3)
How unreasonable we'll all be if we find anything wrong with TFG's ideas, especially since that trailer was so nice and all.
BOHICA.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 25, 2013 08:40 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at June 25, 2013 08:40 AM (epxV4)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 25, 2013 08:40 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 08:41 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: kreplach at June 25, 2013 08:41 AM (tmzN0)
Posted by: krakatoa at June 25, 2013 08:41 AM (5NhEO)
Yes, your government is sytematically trying to destroy the energy industry.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2013 08:41 AM (TOk1P)
I just feel sick about it almost all the time.
Posted by: Filly at June 25, 2013 08:41 AM (gr/p1)
The only way to get people out of poverty is to grow the economy.
Cheap energy grows the economy.
If you want to save the environment you need to be working on a) more advanced agriculture and b) nuclear power.
Ever notice the things greens hate is a) more advanced agriculture and b) nuclear power?
There are already incentives in place to conserve energy. For example, I currently have my AC off because...money. I don't need the government telling me to turn my AC off.
Additionally there are questions of virtue, but that is not this government's domain (or any pluralistic government.) Government cannot teach virtue, period.
So yes, I conserve food (usually, mostly. That soup I made went farther than I though. Plus I made it with spare ingredients and a chicken carcass so suck it.) But I do it not because of the government or fears of global warming, but because it's what my morality tells me to do. Government trying to force that upon us is balderdash and directly against pluralism.
Posted by: tsrblke at June 25, 2013 08:41 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 08:41 AM (KvM9d)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at June 25, 2013 08:41 AM (da5Wo)
New hotness: Obama's talk big and play with yourself.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 25, 2013 08:42 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2013 08:42 AM (f9c2L)
Anyone ever tell you the story of King Canute and the sea?
Sure. Barky saw KC open for Parliament Funkadelic in '81.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2013 08:43 AM (zF6Iw)
*cough*
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 25, 2013 08:43 AM (Kppp9)
energy producers who are in bed with the administration will get kick backs to support failing green energy industry, all the while making huge profits on the backs of consumers.
don't feel sorry for them. They are GE
Posted by: thunderb at June 25, 2013 08:43 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 08:43 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: RWC at June 25, 2013 08:43 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 25, 2013 08:43 AM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 08:43 AM (KvM9d)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 25, 2013 08:44 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: eleven at June 25, 2013 08:44 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 25, 2013 08:44 AM (Y5I9o)
That reminds me, my one year anniversary of separation from organized religion over their promotion of obedience to/idolatry of the state is coming up.
I hope the local golf course is still planning fireworks.
Posted by: Methos at June 25, 2013 08:45 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 25, 2013 08:45 AM (b9K4P)
this is the administrations way of giving prog supporting energy producers a monopoly and driving the others into bankruptcy
serious
Posted by: thunderb at June 25, 2013 08:45 AM (nH8jP)
Bitch, you had two years of complete and utter control. You could have passed anything you wanted and you didn't.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at June 25, 2013 12:41 PM (da5Wo)
And every time he had a clown hall speech on BammyCare, support dropped like a fucking rock. So they finally passed it with maximum payoffs and procedural chicanery before opposition reached 100%.
And who do the Repubs nominate? The architect of RomneyCare. I think I'll go out to garage and chug kerosine and sit in broken glass.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 08:45 AM (9Mux3)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 25, 2013 12:34 PM (Kppp9)
***
Oh, really now?
Posted by: Morgan Freeman at June 25, 2013 08:46 AM (ND7TC)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 08:46 AM (KvM9d)
Posted by: soothsayer, malicious communicator at June 25, 2013 08:47 AM (vanqS)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2013 08:47 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: bonhomme at June 25, 2013 08:47 AM (yKTI2)
Posted by: ALH at June 25, 2013 08:47 AM (yAPdC)
NRG and some other prog led energy companies are going to clean up
Dominion and others will be driven into the dirt
watch
he is going to enrich his supporters and destroy his enemies, and in the meantime redistribute wealth on a massive scale
the economy, fuck that
Posted by: thunderb at June 25, 2013 08:49 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Guidos 'taking Amnesty up the ass in AZ' at June 25, 2013 08:49 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: ALH at June 25, 2013 12:47 PM (yAPdC)
What are you using raaaaacist code words for?
Posted by: Tingles at June 25, 2013 08:49 AM (MnSla)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 25, 2013 08:49 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: steevy at June 25, 2013 08:50 AM (9XBK2)
http://tinyurl.com/p45l39t
Posted by: RWC at June 25, 2013 12:43 PM (fWAjv)
Damn. Sad picture. And yes, it does sum up what TFG and the progressives are doing to America.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 25, 2013 08:50 AM (lVPtV)
New hotness: Obama's talk big and play with yourself.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 25, 2013 12:42 PM (XUKZU)
More like talk big and suck the big stick
Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 08:50 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 08:50 AM (9Mux3)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 25, 2013 08:51 AM (Gk3SS)
49 Barack Obama and Gaia, together again in:
HONEY I SHRANK THE ECONOMY
Posted by: joncelli at June 25, 2013 12:38 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Real Bumper Sticker at June 25, 2013 08:51 AM (cv5Iw)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 08:51 AM (KvM9d)
Posted by: dogfish at June 25, 2013 12:50 PM (nsOJa)
We've gone from dreams of flying cars to banning lightbulbs.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 25, 2013 08:51 AM (4df7R)
Deny all you want but Obama is going to save us all. Even you snarky backwards ingrates.
Posted by: Chris Hayes at June 25, 2013 12:52 PM (tWmgi
Here, have a juicebox.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 25, 2013 08:52 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 25, 2013 08:52 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 08:52 AM (KvM9d)
That's because only moderate Republicans are electable. Which is why it'll be Christie or Crist.
Posted by: pragmatic republican-Winning! at June 25, 2013 08:52 AM (hO9ad)
Would use it if I could get it without having to order a railcar at a time.
Business idea! Buy coal by the railcar, sell it by the bucket.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 25, 2013 08:53 AM (yKTI2)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at June 25, 2013 08:53 AM (MnSla)
Posted by: RWC at June 25, 2013 08:53 AM (fWAjv)
Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!
Posted by: Barrack Ozymandias at June 25, 2013 08:53 AM (nELVU)
....toilets that need to be flushed twice, shower heads that suck, dishwashers that no longer wash dishes, forced composting......
Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2013 08:54 AM (AmWlQ)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 12:51 PM (KvM9d)
No you wouldn't. When I was a kid you tell the other kids in school who had pot bellied stoves that they burned coal in. Their clothes reeked.
Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 08:54 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: dogfish at June 25, 2013 08:55 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 25, 2013 08:55 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 08:55 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2013 12:33 PM (WW8xK)
It'd be awkward to watch him hump a miroor with a hole in it.
Posted by: Heralder at June 25, 2013 08:55 AM (+xmn4)
Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 12:54 PM (lZvxr)
You mean man had fire when you went to school, Vic? You're younger than I thought!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 25, 2013 08:55 AM (4df7R)
My calendar is free next week - what's your number?
Posted by: Barney Frank at June 25, 2013 08:55 AM (pgQxn)
Posted by: Chris Hayes
Are you the squinty-eyed, dough-faced lady that used to share TV time with that rugged, manly Mr. Maddow?
Posted by: bonhomme at June 25, 2013 08:56 AM (yKTI2)
Posted by: Heralder at June 25, 2013 12:55 PM (+xmn4)
Awkward, but educational.
The question is, which would top?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 25, 2013 08:56 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 25, 2013 08:57 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 08:57 AM (KvM9d)
Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2013 08:57 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 25, 2013 08:57 AM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: thunderb at June 25, 2013 08:57 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at June 25, 2013 08:58 AM (4Vr+0)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 25, 2013 08:58 AM (l3vZN)
Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2013 08:58 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 25, 2013 08:58 AM (/gHaE)
You keep your weird toilet-hose business away from me, Mr.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 25, 2013 08:59 AM (yKTI2)
Posted by: steevy at June 25, 2013 08:59 AM (9XBK2)
Hate to say it, but I'm at the point where I think he might go for a third and endless term because of the "crisis."
Posted by: PJ at June 25, 2013 08:59 AM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at June 25, 2013 12:56 PM (4df7R)
That depends on whether his favorite dildo has a suction cup on it or not.
Posted by: Heralder at June 25, 2013 09:00 AM (+xmn4)
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 12:50 PM (9Mux3)
Hell no, not me. If I wanted to hear an asshole make noises I would have become a proctologist .
Posted by: Berserker at June 25, 2013 09:00 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: biancaneve at June 25, 2013 09:00 AM (6bYlh)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2013 09:00 AM (AmWlQ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 25, 2013 09:00 AM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 09:00 AM (KvM9d)
It was nice to just laugh with so much crap going on around us all.
Posted by: caustic at June 25, 2013 09:00 AM (/b8+5)
Michelle Obama
Valerie Jarret
Mrs. Jay Carney (aka Claire Shipman of ABC and moderator of the WH forum)
Cokie Roberts (ABC senior correspondent)
The IRS Union President
and others ...
Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2013 09:01 AM (HjPtV)
Hey now, you know those ping-pong guns that make an oddly satisfying pop sound when you fire them? I think this guy's going to make that noise. Then he's going to wave his arms feebly, and I'm going to look at him in a bemused sort of way. Then I'm going to go relax by the pool.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 25, 2013 09:01 AM (yKTI2)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 25, 2013 12:57 PM (V1ZIU)
The problems with the low flow flush toilets have been solved. MIL just got a couple of new Kohler toilets that I helped install. They work fine.
Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 09:02 AM (lZvxr)
I wonder if I could figure out a way to make my own coal-fired generator. Probably not.
I hate how this guy just keeps making up lies and not being called on them.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 09:02 AM (GoIUi)
American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity (ACCCE) head Mike Duncan
“Coal power has evolved significantly over the past decade. Thanks to clean coal technologies, coal-based electricity continues to dramatically improve its environmental footprint. The newest coal-fueled power plants operating today are highly efficient, utilize less coal, and have lower emissions. Coal power is necessary to meet future energy demands and is progressing as quickly as technology is evolving.
“We do not believe EPA regulations are an effective way to address concerns about global climate change. However, if EPA proceeds with regulations, they should be based on adequately demonstrated technology and provide an achievable timeframe to allow the coal industry to continue advancing clean coal technologies. If the government creates standards that are not practical, they risk not just shutting down existing plants but also halting the development of additional clean coal technology facilities. Taking America’s most significant source of electricity offline would have disastrous consequences for our nation’s economy.”
Posted by: thunderb at June 25, 2013 09:02 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 25, 2013 09:03 AM (/gHaE)
----
Not the right question.
The right question is:
What percentage of those on the left genuinely believe they can use this Church of Climatology stuff to lord over their intellectual inferiors???
Answer is........ 100%.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2013 09:03 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 09:03 AM (KvM9d)
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at June 25, 2013 01:00 PM (tWmgi)
*****
Honest answer: Depends what you mean by "genuinely".
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 25, 2013 09:03 AM (ND7TC)
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 25, 2013 09:03 AM (8sCoq)
***
We have always been at war with East Asia Plastic Bags.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 25, 2013 09:03 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 09:04 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at June 25, 2013 12:58 PM (4Vr+0)
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Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 25, 2013 09:04 AM (D5iHx)
The following is a statement from Robert M. “Mike” Duncan, President and CEO of the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity (ACCCE):
“Recent EPA regulations have already taken a harsh toll on coal-fueled electricity. So far this year, EPA regulations have played a major role in the announced closure of 288 coal plants in 32 states. This is equivalent to shutting down the entire electricity supply of the state of New York. Further regulation could force even more plant closures.
The coal power industry has evolved to improve its environmental footprint through clean coal technologies, while providing affordable electricity to meet our national goals of job creation and a renewed manufacturing sector. Americans understand that coal must be a part of America's clean energy future, and it can be if the federal government doesn't stop us in our tracks.”
Posted by: thunderb at June 25, 2013 09:04 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: The Obama Youth at June 25, 2013 09:05 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: eleven at June 25, 2013 09:05 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at June 25, 2013 01:00 PM (tWmgi)
their whole identity is wrapped up in being AGAINST stufff- makes them feel like brave class warriors
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 25, 2013 01:03 PM (8sCoq)
Yeah, that's the way I've got it figured. They need to be better than us and they are better than us because they care more and are smarter.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 25, 2013 09:05 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at June 25, 2013 01:00 PM (tWmgi)
The "greens" are made up of three groups:
The watermelons who use the green agenda to further communism. This is the largest group.
The burn it to the ground anarchists who don't believe in any energy and just want to see it burn. Next largest group.
The insane true believers who have believed everything put out by the above groups. This is a tiny portion of the greens.
Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 09:06 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 25, 2013 09:07 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 09:07 AM (KvM9d)
Posted by: thunderb at June 25, 2013 09:07 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 01:04 PM (GoIUi)
And today I call on Congress, to bypass its gridlock, and Amend the Laws of Thermodynamics, giving Green Energy Amnesty from its overly harsh restrictions...
We already have Lindsey Graham, and John McCain, willing to CoSponser Legislation to this effect..
Posted by: Barrak Obama, Green Scientist at June 25, 2013 09:07 AM (lZBBB)
Most lawyers and politicians. Chemistry and physics were optional when I was in high school.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 25, 2013 09:07 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: George Washington at June 25, 2013 09:07 AM (sElZT)
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl
I'm sure the majority believe it, but I'm sure very few have the technical background to understand why it is BS. They should be know as the flat earthers.
Posted by: dogfish at June 25, 2013 09:08 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 25, 2013 09:08 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at June 25, 2013 09:08 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2013 09:08 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Fritz at June 25, 2013 09:08 AM (UzPAd)
I am about ready to start beating hippies with "NO COAL TRAIN" bumper stickers on their Prius'.
Fucking amazing how coal dust is causing more problems than asbestos, now.
Posted by: garrett at June 25, 2013 09:08 AM (NllH8)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 09:09 AM (KvM9d)
The problems with the low flow flush toilets have been solved. MIL just got a couple of new Kohler toilets that I helped install. They work fine.
---
Mebbe. Put some red food coloring in the bowl. If its still red after flushing.... not so much.
Another unseen problem with low gallonage toilets isnt on the user end, its in the sewer system. Some cities are experiencing flow transfer issues with their sewage lines because.... to put it bluntly.... there aint enough water to push the solids thru the system.... but that issue doesnt seem to make the headlines.
Law of Unintended Consequences.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2013 09:09 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Alf767 at June 25, 2013 09:10 AM (Q7wUg)
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 25, 2013 09:10 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: caustic at June 25, 2013 09:10 AM (/b8+5)
Honest question for the Horde: What percentage of those on the left genuinely believe this Church of Climatology stuff?
Far too many.
The problem is, IMO, that there are people who will believe anything they're told. They have no filter that screens incoming information for accuracy. They are trusting, but in the wrong way, much like a child trusts a parent (usually Mom). This explains why we so often hear them spouting the exact same phrases, word for word, they were taught to say when defending "their ideas."
It's intellectual laziness that borders precipitously on hypnotism. It's truly scary how easily these people can be brainwashed. Our schools aren't helping, either. By inculcating children to employ their emotions instead of rational thought, we're winding up with a populace that can't decipher bullshit and thinks everything they're told by any authority figure is automatically true and honest.
We are so terribly fucked.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 25, 2013 09:10 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: bonhomme at June 25, 2013 09:10 AM (yKTI2)
Posted by: Mainah at June 25, 2013 09:11 AM (659DL)
flow transfer issues with their sewage lines because.... to put it bluntly.... there aint enough water to push the solids thru the system....
*****
Nice synopsis...of Congress.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 25, 2013 09:11 AM (ND7TC)
Posted by: The Obama Youth at June 25, 2013 09:12 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Bufalobob at June 25, 2013 09:13 AM (hJg3R)
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at June 25, 2013 01:11 PM (tWmgi)
Probably pretty low contrary to all the hype you see in the MFM. And of that low percentage only a tiny fraction actually follow their own agendas. That is that tiny fraction that actually believes the shit.
Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 09:13 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 25, 2013 09:13 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: jakeman at June 25, 2013 09:13 AM (96M6e)
this is about picking winners and losers, destroying your enemy, and redistributing wealth
like always
Posted by: thunderb at June 25, 2013 09:14 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 25, 2013 09:14 AM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Vic
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I am less certain about the distribution of numbers. I believe the last group is just comprised of useful idiots, but is the largest group. They are the casual enablers. The hard core cadre (Sierra Club, Earth First, etc.) is a smaller group, who are in turn tools of the progressives Watermelons.
I only say this, because I encounter greenie types everyday, but they are greenies only because it is fashionable, and convenient. Not unusually, they are driving an import SUV. I encounter the more militant types only rarely, and mostly via the media, but they are very busy..., all of the time.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 25, 2013 09:15 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 09:16 AM (KvM9d)
Posted by: Mainah at June 25, 2013 09:16 AM (659DL)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 25, 2013 09:16 AM (XvHmy)
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No prepper should be without one.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 25, 2013 09:17 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Beto at June 25, 2013 09:17 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Jennifer Aniston on South Park at June 25, 2013 09:17 AM (NllH8)
Jay Carney, the chief spokesperson for the chief spokesperson for the queen of America, Valerie Jarrett
Posted by: The Chicken at June 25, 2013 09:17 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 09:17 AM (KvM9d)
Posted by: Body Builder at June 25, 2013 09:18 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: Mainah at June 25, 2013 09:18 AM (659DL)
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Well, more to the point, the 'problem' must be 'managed'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 25, 2013 09:18 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at June 25, 2013 09:18 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Marcus at June 25, 2013 09:19 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 25, 2013 09:19 AM (ND7TC)
Politics trump hard reality with the left. Every time.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 25, 2013 09:20 AM (/gHaE)
Nowadays we just call it GLOBAL OZONE LAYER CHANGE.
Hey, I think I'm getting the hang of this left-speak.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 25, 2013 09:20 AM (ND7TC)
Posted by: toby928© presents at June 25, 2013 09:20 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 25, 2013 09:21 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 25, 2013 09:21 AM (ND7TC)
Posted by: Awareness Ribbons at June 25, 2013 09:22 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Mainah at June 25, 2013 09:22 AM (659DL)
At some point, all this crap will affect the gargantuan economy beyond it's ability to withstand.
Wonder how close we are to that point?
Posted by: irongrampa at June 25, 2013 09:22 AM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Pan-sexual Rights Activist at June 25, 2013 09:22 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 25, 2013 09:23 AM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at June 25, 2013 09:24 AM (29vnO)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 25, 2013 09:24 AM (V1ZIU)
What's more natural than oil? It grows in the ground. Posted by: rickb223
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I have pointed this out before, but surely I am not the only one old enough to recall that the move to the despised (by the greenies) plastic garbage bags, was driven by the greenies, because Save a Tree!
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 25, 2013 09:28 AM (aDwsi)
The burn it to the ground anarchists who don't believe in any energy and just want to see it burn. Next largest group.
The insane true believers who have believed everything put out by the above groups. This is a tiny portion of the greens.
I hate to disagree with Vic, but he's missing the real driver here. There is a 4th group, and it's the largest: the crowd who wants to stop the middle class from using electricity and stuff, because they didn't go to Harvard and they have entirely the wrong tastes and drive the wrong cars and stuff.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 25, 2013 09:31 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at June 25, 2013 01:00 PM (tWmgi) *****
Honest answer: Depends what you mean by "genuinely".
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 25, 2013 01:03 PM (ND7TC)
When the "true believers" simply parrot what they receive from on high, regardless of contradictions both internal and over time - I find it hard to even call it belief - the only constant is that it is not constant.
Certainly ironic that these are the type who are likely to criticize "leap of faith" belief.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 25, 2013 09:31 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 25, 2013 09:32 AM (FWG5+)
Anyway, there was an obvious leftist douchetool hanging in one of the circles where a joiunt was making its rounds, and this prehipster is pontificating about this junkwood series and how great it is, and the planet, etc etc. My other guitar player happened to be hitting on this joint while staring at the hipster, who turned to him and asked "isn't that cool".
My other guitar player looks at him and says "I'm only interested in buying guitars that I know 2 whole villages were wiped out in order to obtain the wood", and then blows a hit in his face.
I fucking laugh every time I think of that.
Posted by: Berserker at June 25, 2013 09:32 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Dwayne the canoe guy at June 25, 2013 09:33 AM (2EmS8)
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He has, in a fashion already done that. Via Sec. of Energy Stephen Chu (who does not own/drive a car. Presumably he gets around by taxpayer limo.) and the Dept. of Energy mandated average...., I repeat average[i/] mileage of vehicles by 2025 will be 54.5 mpg. See? That was easy. Nothing to it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 25, 2013 09:33 AM (aDwsi)
In a world that had an actual opposition party called Republicans, they would also put out a trailer showing grandma's frozen corpse in winter, a single mom serving cold oatmeal to her shivering young ones, and a poor little kitteh freezing in the snow.
That is if we had a Republican party.
Posted by: Cheri at June 25, 2013 09:35 AM (G+Wff)
Posted by: Beto at June 25, 2013 09:39 AM (MhA4j)
just got a couple of new Kohler toilets that I helped install. They work
fine.
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Mebbe. Put some red food coloring in the bowl. If its still red after flushing.... not so much.
Another unseen problem with low gallonage toilets isnt on the user end, its in the sewer system. Some cities are experiencing flow transfer issues with their sewage lines because.... to put it bluntly.... there aint enough water to push the solids thru the system.... but that issue doesnt seem to make the headlines.
Law of Unintended Consequences."
I got a new toilet about a year ago and I love it. There is some kind of Venturi magic going on where when you press down the handle it sucks everything, solids, liquids and water down the pipe instantly. Now you see it - now you don't. It is really cool to watch. Well, it's not worth skipping Game of Thrones to watch but it is pretty cool. It was just a $100 American Standard toilet that I bought at Lowes when the old toilet broke.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at June 25, 2013 09:42 AM (31Nrp)
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