November 20, 2013
— Ace Other people are linking this, but let me link Freddoso's Conservative Intelligence Briefing, because he included this gif, and I like pictures:

Big numbers: Obama's down to 37% job approval, with 57% disapproving (!). Support for Obamacare itself is down to 31%, with 61% disapproving (!!).
Preferences seem to be cascading:
No loss of support for Obamacare? Uh, sorry, folks, but the loss of support is actually pretty huge — 22 points on net in just one month.Among Democrats, a 26-point swing against Obamacare. Among independents, a net 23-point swing against Obamacare. Both in just one month[.]
An ABCNews-Washington Post poll released yesterday was not quite so bad for Obama, but it was still very bad:
OBAMA FACES RECORD DISAPPROVAL NUMBERS:...
The president’s job approval rating has fallen to 42 percent in a new ABC News-Washington Post poll, down 13 percentage points this year and 6 points in the past month to match the lowest of his presidency. Fifty-five percent disapprove — a record. And 70 percent say the country’s headed seriously off on the wrong track — up 13 points since May to the most in two years.
THE PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL IMAGE HAS SUFFERED: President Obama is also at career lows for being a strong leader (down by 15 points this year and a vast 31 points below its peak shortly after he took office), understanding the problems of average Americans and being honest and trustworthy — numerically under water on each of these, LANGER notes. Just 41 percent rate him as a good manager; 56 percent think not. And fewer than half — 46 percent — see him favorably overall, down 14 points this year to the fewest of his presidency. Fifty-two percent now view him unfavorably, a new high and a majority for the first time since he took office.
OBAMACARE’S MOST NEGATIVE RATING TO DATE: Americans by nearly 2-1, 63-33 percent, disapprove of Obama’s handling of implementation of the new health care law. And the public by 57-40 percent now opposes the law overall, with opposition up by 8 points in the past month alone. Fifty-six percent describe the cancellation of health insurance policies that are deemed substandard under the law as “mismanagement” rather than a normal startup problem.
Remember when Republicans were being shellacked for wishing to delay Obamacare? Sure you do. It was like the Summer of Sharks -- a minor story puffed up into prominence by a slow news month before the horrible news of 9/11.
Here's the public on delaying an important part of Obamacare, the individual mandate:
Given the breakdown of the HealthCare.gov website, a broad 71 percent favor postponing the individual mandate requiring nearly all Americans to have coverage. And the mandate’s still widely unpopular in any case; 65 percent of Americans oppose it — a majority of them, strongly. Notably, even among those who support the individual mandate, 55 percent favor delaying it.
Getting back to that picture, and I do like pictures: How does Obama claw his way out of this hole? This is not something easily gotten over, like Bill Clinton's dalliance with Monica Lewinsky.
Because, even though the public disapproved of that affair, and being lied to about it, three things were true in that case:
1. Bill Clinton's sexual dalliance did not in fact "affect his job performance," as liberals constantly screamed. They screamed it... and it was actually true. Although the perjury was a serious charge, committing perjury did not reduce the GDP or the like.
2. Bill Clinton did not continue getting beejers from Monica Lewinsky during the Lewisky scandal, and continue exploring the possibilities of a cigar as a marital aid throughout the duration of his second term.
3. The economy was in great shape, unemployment was down to record lows (like 3.8% in one month), and we had a surplus.
That's why I say that was easily brushed aside, in relative terms. Compare that support-eroding event to Obamacare:
1. Obamacare does in fact "affect Obama's job performance," because it is his job performance. Unlike Bill Clinton, Obama cannot say, "I'm ignoring these distractions in order to focus on working for the American people." Obamacare is his work for the American people, and the American people strongly disapprove.
His only real out here is to agree to repeal it, which, of course, he will not do. If/when he gets down into the twenties, enough Democrats may vote to override his veto of a bill repealing Obamacare.
2. Unlike Bill Clinton, Obama cannot say his filthy affair with redistributive socialism is "in the past" and he's "seeking counseling and the ministering of Jesse Jackson" to "heal himself" of these defects. Obama intends to continue having his torrid public affair with Spreading the Wealth Around until January 2017.
And he won't apologize for it, not really. What he says is basically Woody Allen's non-apology: "The heart wants what it wants." You'll just have to understand his love affair with socialism-- because he's too much in love to break it off.
3. On the economy, I will only say "Obama's economy" because to say more would be to insult your intelligence.
So that leaves that jpg's suggestion: He will just have to avoid talking about it, and hope that taxpayers don't notice he's taking thousands of dollars from them -- sometimes ten thousand dollars or more -- in order to pay for his constant romantic getaways in the Poconos with his socialist mistress.
And how's that going to work?
And does he think the public won't notice when he begins a new, second affair, this time with taking away employer-provided insurance just before the mid-terms?
Obama's in that very special hell, maybe the Circle reserved for the arrogant and deceitful: He can't move forward, and he can't move back. And he also can't stay where he is.
But oh I know: He'll give a speech. Right?
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Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 11:24 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 11:24 AM (k55Fc)
Posted by: CarolT at November 20, 2013 11:25 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 20, 2013 11:25 AM (bCEmE)
The ObamaCare fails provides a cavalcade of flavors from frustration to desperation to tears to despair!
There is so many possibilities at our ObamaCare fail Sundae Bar!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 11:25 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Austin in TX at November 20, 2013 11:25 AM (/6EeB)
Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2013 11:26 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: CarolT at November 20, 2013 11:26 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:27 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 20, 2013 11:28 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 11:28 AM (aDwsi)
I'm sorry to say this, and apologies to CBD and others, but a hurricane needs to hit NJ again.
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:28 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Redistributive Socialism at November 20, 2013 11:28 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at November 20, 2013 11:28 AM (F58x4)
Keep Calm, and Blame the Republicans.
If you like blaming Republicans, you can keep blaming Republicans.
Posted by: The Mainstream Media at November 20, 2013 11:28 AM (SUC5U)
"Getting back to that picture, and I do like pictures: How does Obama claw his way out of this hole? "
Crawl out? The man just ordered one gross of shovels and I intend to deliver them pronto.
The special kind with instructions printed on the handles. Vice-President Biden's comes with a red bucket with a gold starfish on it.
The Outrage Outlet always overdelivers for our best customers!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 11:28 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2013 11:28 AM (AePd+)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:28 AM (7ObY1)
>>Obama's in that very special hell, maybe the Circle reserved for the arrogant and deceitful: He can't move forward, and he can't move back. And he also can't stay where he is.<<
Reminds me of the ending of the "Human Centipede". Martin Bashir wrote that I hear.
Posted by: Roy at November 20, 2013 11:28 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: steevy at November 20, 2013 11:29 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2013 11:29 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: mama wingr at November 20, 2013 11:29 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: thunderb at November 20, 2013 11:29 AM (gBiAh)
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at November 20, 2013 11:29 AM (BrQrN)
People must eat their shit sandwich until the outcry is so loud the Dems will be FORCED to agree to repeal are be voted out of office and see repeal anyway.
Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 11:29 AM (FTQyq)
Posted by: CarolT at November 20, 2013 11:29 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Yip at November 20, 2013 11:30 AM (/jHWN)
Four things:
Clinton's dorking of a fat intern had absolutely no personal effect on anyone's personal finances or the relationship between individual patients and their doctors.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2013 11:30 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Steve Irwin's Ghost at November 20, 2013 11:30 AM (F58x4)
Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2013 11:30 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:30 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: The Muslim Brotherhood at November 20, 2013 11:30 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 20, 2013 11:30 AM (kdfQ/)
Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2013 11:31 AM (AePd+)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2013 11:31 AM (IXrOn)
... pay no attention to that, uh, incredibly expensive, uh, doctor limiting, identity stealing redistributive health care program behind the curtain.
Posted by: Wizard of Uh's at November 20, 2013 11:31 AM (NE2or)
I say leave him there and build a little wooden shack over it with a seat with a hole, and a door with a crescent moon cutout in it.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 11:31 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: EPA at November 20, 2013 11:31 AM (Tb01R)
I'm sorry to say this, and apologies to CBD and others, but a hurricane needs to hit NJ again.
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 03:28 PM (GQ8sn)
**
Unlike Liberals, we wingers are honest enough to ourselves to admit when we are wrong about a politician...
I was wrong. Christie can DIAF.
Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 11:31 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Bigmike at November 20, 2013 11:31 AM (jwi8H)
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 03:28 PM (GQ8sn)
Nah, not NJ. That's been done already. Connecticut maybe.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:32 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2013 11:32 AM (dfYL9)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 11:32 AM (RZ8pf)
Gee, how much will the Census Bureau have to lie in the next six weeks to tell us how great the economy is, and how much shopping consumers did in the 4th quarter to celebrate Thanksgiving and Hannukah and Christmas?
With one less week in between Thanksgiving and Christmas anyway, less shopping was baked into this 4th quarter.
And anecdotally (which is part of the AOS list of comment requirements) I don't know of anybody in my circle of friends who is planning on spending a lot this year. But then again, I'm not one of Barky's wealthy one percenters.
Posted by: whyme at November 20, 2013 11:32 AM (l9mF2)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2013 11:32 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: The MSM at November 20, 2013 11:32 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: kercon at November 20, 2013 11:32 AM (von48)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2013 11:32 AM (WdbF7)
Posted by: Minuteman at November 20, 2013 11:32 AM (7/um6)
I say leave him there and build a little wooden shack over it with a seat with a hole, and a door with a crescent moon cutout in it.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 03:31 PM (FMbng)
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Crescent moon, definitely.
Posted by: mama wingr at November 20, 2013 11:32 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 20, 2013 11:32 AM (71LDo)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 20, 2013 11:33 AM (1sUs7)
Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at November 20, 2013 11:33 AM (F58x4)
I always liked the Greek goddess(? demigod?) of Nemesis ready to pounce on the proud for the sin of hubris.
Obamcare has become Nemesis, destroyer of the boastful.
Posted by: Jollyroger at November 20, 2013 11:33 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:33 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2013 11:33 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2013 11:33 AM (IXrOn)
The GOP has to let people know what WILL happen though.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2013 03:32 PM (dfYL9)
People are going to find out anyway. Those letters are going to start going out well before the midterms.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:34 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: thunderb at November 20, 2013 11:34 AM (gBiAh)
You want to know when he knows he's toast???
When he starts blaming everything on Valerie Jarrett.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2013 11:34 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Reggie Love at November 20, 2013 11:34 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 11:34 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 20, 2013 11:35 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: flmom at November 20, 2013 11:35 AM (nSjrf)
Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2013 11:35 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: jakeman at November 20, 2013 11:35 AM (vH4YP)
Posted by: soothsayer at November 20, 2013 11:35 AM (AePd+)
Postpone?
So, for all this poll shows, Americans could love it, just not right now.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 11:35 AM (ZKzrr)
Ear Leader could do one of three things to get the public out of pitchfork/torches mode: repeal, repeal or repeal.
And if he keeps dragging out his commie dream and the dems keep envisioning their re-elections going up in smoke, they'll be the ones carrying the pitchforks/torches.
Posted by: RushBabe at November 20, 2013 11:35 AM (hrIP5)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:36 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 20, 2013 11:36 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 11:36 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 11:36 AM (hFL/3)
At this point an intern blowjob might actually help him.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2013 03:32 PM (WdbF7)
At the very least it might prove whether or not he has a penis.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:36 AM (4df7R)
He used the FDR strategy. He flooded the swing States with federal dollars. He campaigned in swing States promising them the moon and all the stars and telling them that the evil Republicans hated woemenz and would throw grandma off the cliff.
He won those swing States mostly by narrow margins. And the Republican helped by running yet another squishy "moderate" who failed to excite the base. (compare with Bush not McCain who fell in the same category)
Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 11:36 AM (FTQyq)
"His only real out here is to agree to repeal it, which, of course, he will not do."
I disagree. I think he will try to ride this out. He is a "true believer". He also, knows that deep down the media loves him almost as much as he loves himself. He knows that they will circle back to covering him with roses as soon as there is a sliver of good news instead of bad. Eventually, the website will get working just enough to satisfy the media that it is now perfect. Then we'll be hit with stories about how Obama is the new comeback kid.
Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2013 11:36 AM (oWWqw)
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 11:37 AM (IITQ/)
I read yesterday that DNC had to offer 50% discount for his fundraising speeches in CA. I might have read it here, if so, I apologize.
At this rate, the DNC will be paying people to come to Bronco's fundraising.
Posted by: RushBabe at November 20, 2013 11:37 AM (hrIP5)
But Republicans still haven't given the People a good reason to vote for them.
There's a good reason to vote for us? Seriously, what is it?
Posted by: The GOP at November 20, 2013 11:37 AM (BrQrN)
Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 11:37 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 11:37 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at November 20, 2013 11:37 AM (F58x4)
Seems inconsistent to me. Anyone else?
Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 20, 2013 11:37 AM (nnkXw)
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at November 20, 2013 11:37 AM (XvrTA)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2013 11:37 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Reggie Love at November 20, 2013 11:38 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: JJ at November 20, 2013 11:38 AM (p7Pyx)
Posted by: Gordon at November 20, 2013 11:38 AM (2sT0g)
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At the very least it might prove whether or not he has a penis.
Well, the intern would have to have a penis.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2013 11:38 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: soothsayer at November 20, 2013 11:38 AM (AePd+)
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at November 20, 2013 11:38 AM (XvrTA)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, upholstering his throne of skulls at November 20, 2013 11:38 AM (naUcP)
There are some things we're just better off not knowing. That's somewhere around the top of the list.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2013 11:38 AM (knoK7)
Posted by: Kate58 at November 20, 2013 11:39 AM (oLZsm)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2013 03:32 PM (WdbF7)
Do I have to pick only one intern to blow? I've blown them all so many times, I don't think I could pick just one.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 20, 2013 11:39 AM (+H/11)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 20, 2013 11:39 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 03:36 PM (7ObY1)
Hell, mine just took out a satellite.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 11:39 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 11:39 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 11:39 AM (0FSuD)
Here we have Barry with non-stop hand-holding propaganda MSM covering and shaping for him and his administration at every turn. THIS is significant to me. His numbers would be hideous if he didn't have Pravda constantly covering for him.
Posted by: Yip at November 20, 2013 11:39 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 20, 2013 11:39 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 11:40 AM (IITQ/)
I hate to break it to you but the Clinton administration lied to us almost as much as the Obama administration. They were just better at it.
The financial numbers during the Clinton administration were fudged as much as any numbers could be fudged. And I blame Clinton and his shennanigans for taking his eye off the terrorist ball resulting finally in 9/11.
Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2013 11:40 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 20, 2013 11:40 AM (9YWWv)
Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 03:37 PM (RD7QR)
The Erinyes?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:40 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2013 11:40 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: --- at November 20, 2013 11:40 AM (MMC8r)
/cue the civil war talk in a moment
/boob-talkers, you're on deck
Posted by: soothsayer at November 20, 2013 03:38 PM (AePd+)
Boob talking points armed......and ready.
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:40 AM (GQ8sn)
Megan Ardle's commentary (sidebar) about how Obamacare repeal has quickly become a thinkable item even among liberals is wrong in one regard: she thinks it won't happen because the votes aren't there. All I can say is she needs to hedge her bets better by saying "YET".
In ten months she's going to be able to write the same column about how even though impeachment has become thinkable it won't happen because the votes aren't there.
Posted by: Minuteman at November 20, 2013 11:40 AM (7/um6)
Yeah if this keeps up he'll never get reelected! Oh wait.
Look the focus is on Obama so people don't notice that the Democrats in congress voted for this turd by a huge margin, ramming it through over the loud objections of the mass majority of Americans with a procedural trick. Without reading it, or even finishing the bill.
If they can get people to focus on and blame Obama, well why not reelect Bob? He's real sorry about how Obama messed it all up.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2013 11:41 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 03:39 PM (FMbng)
----
Ive got a "Honeymooner".
To the moooooooon, Alice.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2013 11:41 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Algore at November 20, 2013 11:41 AM (8ZskC)
"He can't move forward, and he can't move back. And he also can't stay where he is. "
Can he stamp on the ground and tear himself in two like Rumplestiltskin?
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 20, 2013 11:41 AM (w41GQ)
Posted by: Meremortal, thinking of low info mofos at November 20, 2013 11:41 AM (1Y+hH)
Going to be one heck of an office Holiday Party in the West Wing this year, a real big shindig!
The Outrage Outlet is catering the event - and I'm told that not only to bring the Cocktails of Betrayal but the Wines of Bitter Recrimination and the Hors d'Oeuvres of Frank and Honest Discussion.
Promises to be quite the blow-out.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 11:41 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 11:41 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Xander Crews at November 20, 2013 11:41 AM (MGVR2)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2013 11:41 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 11:41 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 20, 2013 11:41 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at November 20, 2013 11:41 AM (Tb01R)
Posted by: CarolT at November 20, 2013 11:42 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Damiano the Economic Terrorist at November 20, 2013 11:42 AM (pIH4n)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 20, 2013 11:42 AM (If54N)
"Preferences seem to be cascading:"
It's a thing of beauty.
Obamacare, the gift that keeps on giving.
Democrats circular firing squad.
Blue on Blue attacks
Still imploding and will be for some time.
GOP, please don't take their shovels.
Obama like an iPhone, is no longer new, or hip.
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 20, 2013 11:42 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 20, 2013 11:42 AM (9YWWv)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2013 11:42 AM (xZxMD)
Is anyone on the Republican side really doing that forcefully? Not that I can see. Obama is small game right now, we need to make the case that one size fits all solutions coming out of DC will NEVER work, regardless of who the president is. The liberals are going to keep pushing their crap and just claim we need more competent leaders to run things. Hillary will be offered up as the example.
Posted by: Chris Vaughn at November 20, 2013 11:42 AM (h+2SD)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2013 11:43 AM (lJaja)
Posted by: © Sponge at November 20, 2013 11:43 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: The GOP at November 20, 2013 03:37 PM (BrQrN)
You are venal and corrupt but you mostly leave me alone. Unlike Democrats who know exactly how I should live my life and will force me to do so.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 11:43 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 11:43 AM (LSJmV)
Prepare for disappointment.
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:43 AM (GQ8sn)
Yep. Stalingrad totally ruined Christmas 1944.
Posted by: A. Hitler at November 20, 2013 11:44 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2013 11:44 AM (bb5+k)
But Republicans still haven't given the People a good reason to vote for them
Republicans have given plenty of good reasons to vote for them. That people refuse to listen to them or believe the lies of the MSM is not the entire fault of the GOP.
Oh, and the good reason these LIV people need for them to vote for you is what are you going to give me . When that is the opposite of your philosophy its an uphill battle to convince LIVs to vote for you.
Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2013 11:44 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Dr Spank at November 20, 2013 11:44 AM (P1WNR)
If only we would let him be clear . . .(as some people say)
Posted by: McCool at November 20, 2013 11:45 AM (TQxRy)
Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 03:37 PM (RD7QR)
The Erinyes?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 20, 2013 03:40 PM (4df7R)
Ah yes, the Furies. As EoJ notes, a type of weasel. Flying, vengeful weasels.
Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 11:45 AM (RD7QR)
And the media LOVES a comeback story (if it involves a Democrat). The slightest uptick in approval, and "Obama is back!" will be the new meme.
The other thing is, eventually people get used to Hell after they've been burning a while. I never though a President could get reelected on an 8% unemployment rate, but people had gotten used to it. A lot of people are going to figure something out and move on.
ObamaCare will eventually gets repealed, at least in part, but I'm not delusional enough to think this is going to be the new normal for the rest of his Presidency.
Posted by: McAdams at November 20, 2013 11:45 AM (2TMCu)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 20, 2013 11:45 AM (6ahup)
Posted by: Preezy O'Cheezy at November 20, 2013 11:45 AM (0cMkb)
We have the Unemployment numbers being changed to help Owebama. Nothing Happened.
We have over 100% turnout in precincts and some with 100% tallies for Owebama. Nothing Happened.
They will win in 2014 and nothing will be done about it.
Posted by: © Sponge at November 20, 2013 03:43 PM (xmcEQ)
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Then there's an insurance bill in your mailbox and it's for 12 thousand dollars.
One of these things is not like the others. One of these things just doesn't belong.
Posted by: mama wingr at November 20, 2013 11:45 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: wooga at November 20, 2013 11:45 AM (PIRUC)
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2013 11:45 AM (JRmiD)
I will believe that after the 2014 and 16 election cycles. How many of those 57% disapprove think Obama hasn't gone far enough. It's the same way with his falling numbers with millineals, let me see who they vote for coming up, then you can call it a preference cascade.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2013 11:46 AM (WdbF7)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 20, 2013 11:46 AM (9YWWv)
Not sure if it was said earlier. If Obama had the Bush media, his approval would be in the high teens.
Posted by: redenzo at November 20, 2013 11:46 AM (bMeMt)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2013 11:46 AM (IXrOn)
We have the IRS targeting. Nothing Happened.
We have the Unemployment numbers being changed to help Owebama. Nothing Happened.
We have over 100% turnout in precincts and some with 100% tallies for Owebama. Nothing Happened.
They will win in 2014 and nothing will be done about it.
Posted by: © Sponge at November 20, 2013 03:43 PM (xmcEQ)
1. IRS scandal- reason for nothing happening = impeachable offense, Darrel Issa and John Boehner are cowards.
2/3. It was all done to save Obama. All the fraud/ changing of the numbers to save Obama. There are too many elections next year to keep the fraud up for the rest of the membership up there on the hill so the midterms are going to be much harder to fix.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 11:47 AM (IITQ/)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 11:47 AM (Xlbr8)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 11:47 AM (LSJmV)
Bill always promised to never do it in mouth, and I believed him all 38 times I sucked his cock. Bill is a serial liar the same as Obama. They're like two fleas in a pod, and they'll never change their spots like a zebra.
Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at November 20, 2013 11:47 AM (pJF+c)
Posted by: soothsayer at November 20, 2013 11:47 AM (AePd+)
Posted by: jakeman at November 20, 2013 11:47 AM (vH4YP)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:47 AM (sByIH)
Posted by: Rev Al at November 20, 2013 11:47 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at November 20, 2013 11:47 AM (XvrTA)
From an AP article on the environmental disaster that ethanol corn farming has become:
"But it's a cost the administration is willing to accept. It believes supporting corn ethanol is the best way to encourage the development of biofuels that will someday be cleaner and greener than today's. Pulling the plug on corn ethanol, officials fear, might mean killing any hope of these next-generation fuels."
If they repeal Obamacare then any hope of that kind of bill dies for a generation or more. Any hope of the big-government mega bill solution to everything dies for a long time. They aren't giving that up. Ever. EVER.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2013 11:48 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 20, 2013 11:48 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 03:32 PM (RZ8pf)
Schadenboner alert -- read at your own risk.
I think it was Rush who today reported that manufacturing is down (to cellar level) in China 'cause those crazy Americans don't have any money to buy stuff, and they're flustlated to say the reast.
Posted by: RushBabe at November 20, 2013 11:48 AM (hrIP5)
Posted by: palerider at November 20, 2013 11:48 AM (dkExz)
Going to be one heck of an office Holiday Party in the West Wing this year, a real big shindig!
And now it is time for the Airing of Grievances !!!!
Posted by: McCool at November 20, 2013 11:48 AM (TQxRy)
Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 03:37 PM (RD7QR)
-----------------------
Furies. They're a type of weasel.
**
I was thinking Nemesis.
Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 11:48 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 11:49 AM (YEQ2h)
-----------------------------
Numbers will change after 2014.
Posted by: mama wingr at November 20, 2013 11:49 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Patrick Bateman at November 20, 2013 11:49 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Mainah at November 20, 2013 11:49 AM (659DL)
Posted by: a freshly-starched blue dress at November 20, 2013 11:49 AM (9YWWv)
Yeah, this is kind of where I am.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 11:50 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2013 11:50 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: The MSM at November 20, 2013 11:50 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mallfly at November 20, 2013 11:50 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Tofu Ninja- now with extra Soy! at November 20, 2013 11:50 AM (QLbhS)
Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 11:50 AM (AP6/F)
===
Well in fairness to the pedophile Allen, is it better to offer a non-apology or a false/insincere one?
There is no apology for Obamacare. . .
Obama and the Dems got EXACTLY what they wanted. If they've changed their collective minds since then, the only acceptable "apology" is to revoke the law.
Posted by: looking closely at November 20, 2013 11:50 AM (6Q9g2)
I'm highly skeptical but it doesn't matter. They'd need a veto-proof vote and that WILL NOT HAPPEN. There will never be any kind of repeal. Its not happening.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2013 11:51 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2013 11:51 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: McAdams at November 20, 2013 03:45 PM (2TMCu)
People have been saying the floor was 40, 42, 45% for a while now. This is the first time he has reached 37% his next lowest was the Nat. Journal poll with 38% and then Gallup/Pew at 39%. The last time he was this low was Gallup in 2011 at 39%, and they were an outlier of the rest of the polls at the time.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 11:51 AM (IITQ/)
Hey, Barry!
*axe to the face*
**
Great movie.
Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 11:51 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: The Uneatten Dog at November 20, 2013 11:51 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2013 11:51 AM (bb5+k)
If he moved to the middle with some bipartisan compromise with House Republicans, his Presidency would be salvaged and Democrats would not be looking at a wipeout in 2014 (and 2016)
I don't believe ObamaCare means a blank check for our side, but it's a HUGE wind at our back until it's resolved.
Posted by: McAdams at November 20, 2013 11:52 AM (2TMCu)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 11:52 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: jakeman at November 20, 2013 11:52 AM (vH4YP)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 20, 2013 11:52 AM (CJjw5)
Fuck, that took longer that I would ever have thought possible.
Anyway, screw him, that little shit reFUSED to give me a "shout out" on the 150th anniversary of THE speech.
Posted by: Abe Lincoln at November 20, 2013 11:52 AM (4eNxd)
Posted by: Xander Crews at November 20, 2013 03:41 PM (MGVR2)
What got me about the show is most of his illusions are old, simple illusions that he admittedly does very well. If you are interested , you can see how they are done by just googling them up. They are old enough that they are no longer secrets.
Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2013 11:52 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Nancy Pisslosi at November 20, 2013 11:52 AM (Rru72)
President Barack Obama told a gathering of corporate executives Tuesday he’s confident that his model of health care will work in the end, but he said he’s going to have to “re-brand” it to sell it to a skeptical public.
“We are going to have to, (a) fix the website so everybody feels confident about that. We’re going to have to, obviously, re-market and re-brand, and that will be challenging in this political environment.”
Posted by: mama wingr at November 20, 2013 11:52 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Mainah at November 20, 2013 11:53 AM (659DL)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 20, 2013 03:36 PM (4df7R)
I keep it for him. In a jar. On the mantle.
Posted by: Moochelle "I'll rip your arms off" Obama at November 20, 2013 11:53 AM (hrIP5)
*
ShoddenTwat.
Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 11:53 AM (wmU4G)
I don't think Dear Leader or anyone in his inner circle care about the polls. And they certainly don't care about the dems going up for re-election in 2014. They have the power now. Congress, by passing this law and laws that give the federal ministries (EPA, IRS, HHS, Education, etc.) over-reaching power, have made themselves irrelevant.
Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2013 11:53 AM (66ULQ)
Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2013 11:53 AM (o+SC1)
"Increased opportunities to succeed, and keep more of the money you earn at those opportunities."
"You gonna make me get a job? Aw hell nah."
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 11:53 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 20, 2013 11:53 AM (If54N)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 11:54 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:54 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Free Shit Army at November 20, 2013 11:54 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Charles Gibson at November 20, 2013 11:54 AM (pIH4n)
If he moved to the middle with some bipartisan compromise with House Republicans, his Presidency would be salvaged and Democrats would not be looking at a wipeout in 2014 (and 2016)
I don't believe ObamaCare means a blank check for our side, but it's a HUGE wind at our back until it's resolved.
Posted by: McAdams at November 20, 2013 03:52 PM (2TMCu)
Keep your hands off my shovel !!!!!
Posted by: Barry McObamacare at November 20, 2013 11:54 AM (nTgAI)
Higher gas prices? Damn that Obama!
I'm paying more for bread? Damn that Obama!
This may start branching off into a lot of interesting paths...
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at November 20, 2013 11:54 AM (fk1A8)
Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 03:53 PM (wmU4G)
________________________
The Dana thing really threw you for a loop huh?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 20, 2013 11:54 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: theCork at November 20, 2013 11:55 AM (hbAdE)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 11:55 AM (RZ8pf)
Barry: Sure is.
The Wolf: I'm Winston Wolfe. I solve problems.
Jimmie: Good, we got one.
The Wolf: So I heard. You're fucked? Have a nice day.
Posted by: Winston Wolf at November 20, 2013 11:55 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2013 11:55 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: The Uneatten Dog at November 20, 2013 11:55 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2013 11:55 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: The MSM at November 20, 2013 11:55 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mainah at November 20, 2013 11:55 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 03:43 PM (hLRSq)
A shitload of truth in that.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 11:55 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Carville at November 20, 2013 11:55 AM (UZQM8)
So crank that 37% down at least a couple notches, maybe 3 or 4.
Now if y'all will excuse me, have to contact my doctor as 4 hours have elapsed...
Posted by: Tofu Ninja- now with extra Soy! at November 20, 2013 03:50 PM (QLbhS)
So now the democrats are weighting polling now??? WTF. I thought it was stupid to do it when we did it last year according to all the media guys. They need to take their numbers at face value and not play games with polls according to their logic last year.
Oh I forgot, there is no logic if it disagrees with their party line.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 11:56 AM (IITQ/)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 11:56 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: O'Bumbles at November 20, 2013 11:56 AM (71LDo)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 11:56 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 20, 2013 11:56 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: jakeman at November 20, 2013 11:56 AM (vH4YP)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 20, 2013 11:56 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 03:52 PM (/Crba)
**
Intriguing. Absolutely fascinating.
Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 11:56 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: soothsayer at November 20, 2013 11:57 AM (AePd+)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2013 11:57 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 20, 2013 03:36 PM (4df7R)
I keep it for him. In a jar. On the mantle.
Posted by: Moochelle "I'll rip your arms off" Obama at November 20, 2013 03:53 PM (hrIP5)
One of those tiny Gerbers baby food jars?
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2013 11:58 AM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2013 11:58 AM (nzKvP)
Posted by: CAC at November 20, 2013 11:58 AM (Oxj3c)
"But oh I know: He'll give a speech. Right?"
What other leadership strengths does he possess? He is incurious, he is disengaged, and he does not like to receive bad news - no one can actually lead with those traits. When all you have is a TelePrompter, all the world looks like a lectern.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 11:58 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 20, 2013 11:58 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2013 11:58 AM (3Znbm)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2013 11:58 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: © Sponge at November 20, 2013 11:59 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: Moochelle Obama at November 20, 2013 11:59 AM (7ObY1)
http://is.gd/VURl5M
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 11:59 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 11:59 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2013 03:57 PM (zfY+H)
Nope. Not after this fiasco.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 11:59 AM (IITQ/)
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 12:00 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2013 03:57 PM (zfY+H)
---------------
Obamacare was still a theoretical construct at that point. Now it's real, and getting real-er.
Times change. So do political opportunities.
Posted by: mama wingr at November 20, 2013 12:00 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 20, 2013 12:00 PM (HVff2)
South Dakota
Arkansas
Montana
North Carolina
Louisiana
Alaska
Colorado
Michigan
Iowa
New Hampshire
Oregon
Minnesota
The Walking Dead
Posted by: CAC at November 20, 2013 03:58 PM (Oxj3c)
Seriously. This wave is going to be bigger than 2010. Especially on the senate side. The dems have stepped into so much shit now that nothing can help them except a miracle.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 12:00 PM (IITQ/)
In my defense, there were 6 people & 10 clerks. Wednesday afternoons seem to be the best time to go.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2013 12:01 PM (d0Dmj)
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2013 12:01 PM (JRmiD)
Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2013 12:01 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2013 12:01 PM (o+SC1)
Times change. So do political opportunities.
Posted by: mama wingr at November 20, 2013 04:00 PM (P6QsQ)
Things are only certain until they are not. Repeal is seriously being floated now.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 12:02 PM (IITQ/)
Barry would be just a crooked IL state senator doing limited harm if the media and pop culture icons had not managed to spread their fake mythical image of him and they will trumpet Shrillary or Warren as the cure for the countries ills if they themselves are not checked. Although making them laughing stocks probably would be the most effective way to block the effectiveness of the MBM propaganda.
Posted by: palerider at November 20, 2013 12:02 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 03:48 PM (GQ8sn)
I'm using mine to play pool with the planets.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 12:02 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: CAC at November 20, 2013 03:58 PM (Oxj3c)
Don't just tease....show us everything.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2013 12:02 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 12:02 PM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Preznint FoShizzle at November 20, 2013 12:02 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at November 20, 2013 12:02 PM (9Bdcz)
Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 12:02 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 20, 2013 12:03 PM (CJjw5)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 12:03 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 20, 2013 12:03 PM (bCEmE)
The website is akin to a broken gangway leading to the Titanic.
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 03:39 PM (LSJmV)
-------------------
I saw that movie, well most of it anyways. That ship was pretty awesome and so were Kate Winslet's boobs. But the movie was kind of slow and I didn't see the point of watching after I got to see her boobs. Still, that ship looked really cool, I wish we had more of them like that nowadays. Anyways, once you fix the gangway, life will be opulent and carefree. I mean, who needs to watch to the end of the movie to know that she ended up with Jack and lived happily ever after.
Posted by: Millenial kid at November 20, 2013 12:03 PM (Zswg6)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 04:02 PM (FMbng)
Mine was mistaken for the Planet Killer. Assholes keep trying fly shuttles down my urethra and implode it.
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 12:03 PM (GQ8sn)
//Bronk O'Bama
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 12:03 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: The MSM at November 20, 2013 12:03 PM (aDwsi)
We're going to re-market and re-brand this smelly turd and convert it into a much loved benefit smelling like rose water with a faint hint of feces.
Posted by: Bronco "The Truth" Bama at November 20, 2013 12:03 PM (pJF+c)
I've always been unbelieving of the Obamacare promises but I thought they would be able to pull off a Ponzi scheme that would have a lifespan of at least one tenth of Social Security (10 to 12 years) before going under.
But this pyramid scheme that Pelosi had to pass to find out what's in it had the unfortunate characteristic of having one level in their attempt to make health care into a multi-level marketing scam.
Like a magician that recklessly disregards physics and goes outside the margins of safety, only to find that they actually needed five more seconds to pick that last lock, the Left has fallen for its own lies as truth and can no longer discern their deception from reality. Reality always comes back.
Posted by: Minuteman at November 20, 2013 12:04 PM (7/um6)
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 04:00 PM (IITQ/)
Um...why are you guys looking at us like that?
Posted by: GOP Strategical Geniusez at November 20, 2013 12:04 PM (+H/11)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 12:04 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 20, 2013 12:04 PM (1cD5X)
Posted by: Crony Capitalists at November 20, 2013 12:04 PM (oFCZn)
"Oh fuck, this isn't working, we're about to get nuked, time to throw Obama over the side and go for the Hail Mary pass."
Which will be, if I don't miss my guess, a push by the congressional Democrats to enact Medicare For All as a replacement of Obamacare. Complete socialization of the system.
The Democrats have a point: voters REALLY LIKE their Medicare. LOVE it.
The fact that Medicare as it stands on its own right now is completely fiscally unsustainable? It's been a long time since the question of "can the country actually afford this policy" had any traction with our spoiled, innumerate, economically vacuous voters.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 20, 2013 12:05 PM (gqT4g)
Just imagine if we had competent leaders with balls on the Republican side to capitalize on this. There is no telling what we could do. Anyone who follows this blog could go on TV and make a compelling case as to how and why this happened and explain why federal power should be limited.
Heh. The only one with the eggs to do that would be Palina, Huntress of Wasilla. Boehner, Cantor and their girlymen wouldn't call her if their lives depended on it -- and they do.
Posted by: RushBabe at November 20, 2013 12:05 PM (hrIP5)
That's because the kids on the back of the box were 1/3d human size...
//The Hobbits
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 12:05 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 20, 2013 12:05 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Pipeholder at November 20, 2013 12:05 PM (VTeUD)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 12:05 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Mainah at November 20, 2013 12:05 PM (659DL)
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 04:03 PM (GQ8sn)
So...you got a Decker in your pecker?
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 12:06 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 04:02 PM (QupBk)
That is going to fall on deaf ears when voters continue to find out "What's in it," courtesy of Pelosi and the democrats. This thing is DIRECTLY affecting everyone, LIV or not. They fundamentally (channeling Newt here) did not realize what it would do when you tell a LIV that you will tax them if they don't purchase a product. You don't tell the selfish generation to do anything.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 12:06 PM (IITQ/)
Posted by: soothsayer at November 20, 2013 12:06 PM (AePd+)
Posted by: Fritz at November 20, 2013 12:06 PM (TKFmG)
Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 12:06 PM (QupBk)
Tell us about the time you rolled the amnesty grenade into our party's campfire daddy...
//GOP
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 12:06 PM (9jfyN)
I'm not so sure it will be a clean jump to single payer. People are starting to pay attention now, and it's a little too risky for them to just come out and say.
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 12:06 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2013 12:07 PM (o+SC1)
"Oh fuck, this isn't working, we're about to get nuked, time to throw Obama over the side and go for the Hail Mary pass."
Which will be, if I don't miss my guess, a push by the congressional Democrats to enact Medicare For All as a replacement of Obamacare. Complete socialization of the system.
GOP says:
"If you like your double down stupidity, you can keep your double down stupidity. Until Mr. Maths says you can't."
Drop mic. Exit, stage right.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2013 12:07 PM (d0Dmj)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 04:06 PM (FMbng)
Solid. Neutronium. Baby.
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 12:07 PM (GQ8sn)
Mine was mistaken for the Planet Killer. Assholes keep trying fly shuttles down my urethra and implode it.
---
but at least the phasers tickle...
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 20, 2013 12:08 PM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: The Governor at November 20, 2013 12:08 PM (Tlix5)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at November 20, 2013 12:08 PM (fzFF6)
Posted by: The Riddler at November 20, 2013 12:09 PM (DrC22)
Posted by: The MSM at November 20, 2013 12:09 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 04:00 PM (IITQ/)
GOP: Wanna bet?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2013 12:09 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 12:09 PM (LSJmV)
Posted by: The Riddler at November 20, 2013 04:09 PM (DrC22)
He would have to use a straw.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 12:09 PM (FMbng)
In my defense, there were 6 people 10 clerks. Wednesday afternoons seem to be the best time to go.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2013 04:01 PM (d0Dmj)
It's a great deal better than the one in Plano. The twins took (will retake in one case) their driver's tests there.
I was sorely tempted to make the drive to Bonham.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2013 12:09 PM (d0Dmj)
http://tinyurl.com/dhwd2n
Posted by: Reno_Dave at November 20, 2013 12:10 PM (bsDPd)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 04:09 PM (LSJmV)
Da Bears????
Someone tell navycopjoe!
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 12:10 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 20, 2013 12:11 PM (vd7A8)
"Oh fuck, this isn't working, we're about to get nuked, time to throw Obama over the side and go for the Hail Mary pass."
Which will be, if I don't miss my guess, a push by the congressional Democrats to enact Medicare For All as a replacement of Obamacare. Complete socialization of the system.
The Democrats have a point: voters REALLY LIKE their Medicare. LOVE it.
The fact that Medicare as it stands on its own right now is completely fiscally unsustainable? It's been a long time since the question of "can the country actually afford this policy" had any traction with our spoiled, innumerate, economically vacuous voters.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 20, 2013 04:05 PM (gqT4g)
Look at the polling released from Gallup two days ago. A margin of 56%-42% do not believe that the federal government should have a role in providing health care to all americans. That filters out the people who feel the government is not doing enough too. Let them try and get Medicare for all after this clusterfuck.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 12:11 PM (IITQ/)
Final two years of Obama's presidency will be a blank. I see a lotta rounds of golf on Obama's schedule in 2015 and '16. Just wait it out, plan for the lucrative post-Presdential retirement. $peeches, UN Secretary General. .... ahh, a cushy lifestyle.
Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2013 03:30 PM (+cx5n)
I'm gonna save my schadenboner for when JugEars starts campaigning for UN SecGen......and they tell him no, because he's from a permanent member of the Security Council.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2013 12:11 PM (TIIx5)
The Dems get out from Obamacare and they get the Amnesty they wanted and the Republicans seem willing to give it to them.
I wonder....
Posted by: Kreplach at November 20, 2013 12:11 PM (qH/2Y)
Are you doing a stretch now?
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 03:59 PM (YEQ2h)
*
The Morons here renamed me. Sharing the same name as that shit-stick Dana Millbank was just too much for some to deal with.
Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 12:11 PM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Pipeholder at November 20, 2013 04:05 PM (VTeUD)
Marketing is all he knows, and he's damn good at. He thinks everything works this way which is wrong, it works for elections, but not much else.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2013 12:12 PM (WdbF7)
See you in Rio!
Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 12:12 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 20, 2013 12:12 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Reggie Love at November 20, 2013 12:12 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 20, 2013 12:12 PM (p0xcJ)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 12:12 PM (LSJmV)
Not that I don't appreciate Pantherette on Pantherette pointy elbow action but uh that ain't RCP.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 12:12 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2013 03:30 PM (+cx5n)
I don't think President Obama and the cadre of hardcore, old-school Alinsky-loving Leftists surrounding him are going to just sit around and lounge by the pool while a drunken Bill Ayers drones on about his glory days in the Weathermen. They've spent decades marching through the institutions, suborning unions, subverting the press, fellating big money donors, destroying reputations and engaging in character assassination, buying off those they could buy off and breaking the legs of those they couldn't to get the power they've now acquired. You think they're going to give it all up as the result of free and fair elections?
The short answer is no. I expect something desperate and dramatic, and soon.
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2013 12:12 PM (2jF2B)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 12:13 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: Sir Shanksalot at November 20, 2013 12:13 PM (FcR7P)
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Yes.... but if I may point out that a lot of you are freelance 1099 filers that just took it in the ass in the individual market, no??
Run out of other peoples money indeed.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2013 12:13 PM (nELVU)
The Dems get out from Obamacare and they get the Amnesty they wanted and the Republicans seem willing to give it to them.
I wonder....
Posted by: Kreplach at November 20, 2013 04:11 PM (qH/2Y)
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That sure is retarded enough for the establishment rinos asshats to be excited about.
Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 12:13 PM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 12:13 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 12:14 PM (LSJmV)
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2013 04:12 PM (2jF2B)
_______________________
There are Beer Halls in DC..... something COULD happen.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 20, 2013 12:14 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 20, 2013 12:14 PM (vd7A8)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2013 04:11 PM (TIIx5)
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........ which is his cue to spring forth with his real birth certificate !!
Posted by: mama wingr at November 20, 2013 12:14 PM (P6QsQ)
I don't think Kenya is on the security council.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2013 12:14 PM (iGPSR)
and that's even accepting that the GOP doesn't foot bullet itself somehow...
I'm thinking "My friends, we will get a repeal of Obamacare, and they will get Amnesty" is in my future.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 12:14 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2013 12:14 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 04:11 PM (wmU4G)
Shit, they can "name" us now? Time to fucking lurk.......
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 12:15 PM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 12:16 PM (7ObY1)
Which is actually a very scary proposition. An injured Obama is a dangerous Obama.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2013 12:16 PM (WdbF7)
But if it happens...if we get a Bend Over Harry and Tell Obama The News moment...the pudding will be flowing in the streets.
Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2013 04:07 PM (o+SC1)
Oh the stupid party doesn't deserve ANYTHING. They have been dragged kicking and screaming to this by events. They wanted amnesty. They wanted to help corporate donors. But events dictated otherwise. John Boehner does not deserve that gavel acting the way he has, not to discount many of the elected representatives being complete imbeciles and retards (King, Cantor, Upton, McCarthy, etc).
I don't think the republicans can fuck this up as badly as they want to.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 12:16 PM (IITQ/)
Posted by: whoever at November 20, 2013 12:16 PM (yUY1h)
Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 12:16 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2013 12:16 PM (IXrOn)
I think a better question is this: why would Obama care? Think about it: he's not running for reelection again. Ever. He's fundamentally transformed this country into a Marxist shithole; he's trying pretty hard anyway. And since that is his goal, why do you think he cares what people think about him? Oh sure, he's an repentant narcissist, but his buddies in the MSM and his core loyalist supporters outside of that group of total hacks will back him no matter how bad things get. The sucking up will continue to soothe his fragile ego while his signature legislation spreads the wealth around. In his mind, that's a win.
Posted by: physics geek at November 20, 2013 12:17 PM (MT22W)
Democrats to enact Medicare For All as a replacement of Obamacare.
Complete socialization of the system
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They'll probably have to wait a few years to pull something like that, for a while at least, even the LIVs are understanding there's no such thing as free health care. Somebody gets fucked, and it's looking like Obama's promise that it would only be fat cat bankers that pay for everything is all bullshit.
I'm amazed Democrats didn't simply expand MediCaid to some absurd level where it became a middle class entitlement when they had a blank check after the 2008 election rather than the ObamaCare mess. Much easier to just add abstract numbers to out national debt than people getting thrown off their insurance or their premiums doubling.
Posted by: McAdams at November 20, 2013 12:17 PM (2TMCu)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, upholstering his throne of skulls at November 20, 2013 12:17 PM (naUcP)
Posted by: soothsayer at November 20, 2013 12:17 PM (AePd+)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 12:17 PM (LSJmV)
At some point within the next 3-4 weeks a gang is going to form with the express purpose of hashing out what to do with Obamacare, fucking RINOS love them some grand compromises. They have also been salivating to pass amnesty.
What better way to cram it down our throats!
Repeal of Obamacare for passage of Amnesty!
I'm telling you it's out there, I can feel it.
Posted by: Kreplach at November 20, 2013 12:17 PM (qH/2Y)
Here at Ft Jackson they have ESPN and CNN on....
I guess I should be thankful it is seldom MSLSD and be content.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 12:17 PM (9jfyN)
will be, if I don't miss my guess, a push by the congressional
Democrats to enact Medicare For All as a replacement of Obamacare.
Complete socialization of the system.
GOP says:
"If you like your double down stupidity, you can keep your double down stupidity. Until Mr. Maths says you can't."
Drop mic. Exit, stage right.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2013 04:07 PM (d0Dmj)
Medicare/Medicaid is bankrupting the government now, cut everything else and it still leads to DOOM, add everyone and it goes Kaboom even faster. The Terrible Demon Math won't allow it.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 20, 2013 12:17 PM (rXcBX)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 12:17 PM (0FSuD)
Yep. One of the great medical fads that has proven completely laughable.
The terrifying thing is that as medical care gets more and more governmentalized, the harder it is to actually escape from the consequences of these silly dogmas.
Because the omniscient state simply Can. Not. Ever. Admit. To. Having. Erred.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 20, 2013 12:17 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 12:18 PM (7ObY1)
"Zimmerman girlfriend shopping interview for money prior to 911 call"
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 12:18 PM (KVY+w)
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2013 04:12 PM (2jF2B)
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I do too. Like I stated upthread, Dear Leader and the regime have most of the power now, and a castrated congress.
I'm sure the American people appear to them as sheep ready for shearing or, if worse comes to worse, slaughter.
Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2013 12:19 PM (66ULQ)
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 04:17 PM (9jfyN)
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You're at Ft Jackson, sven? I've been there. Little Winger did his basic there and we went and saw him graduate. It was hot and humid, that I remember.
Posted by: mama wingr at November 20, 2013 12:19 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: cajun caret at November 20, 2013 12:20 PM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 20, 2013 12:20 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: cajun caret at November 20, 2013 12:21 PM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 12:21 PM (0FSuD)
Nope. That's prohibited by the UN charter. No country that's a permanent member of UNSC can have someone as UN Sec Gen.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 12:21 PM (Xlbr8)
Posted by: t-bird at November 20, 2013 12:21 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 12:21 PM (/Crba)
When the public changed the name from ACA to ObamaCare, that was a direct insult to the president.
Posted by: John McWhorter at November 20, 2013 12:21 PM (pJF+c)
it didnt take long for a majority of Americans to dismiss Clinton's scandal as 'just sex' and then regard Ken Starr as a rightwing Christian 'perv' who was just out to get Clinton.
Posted by: soothsayer at November 20, 2013 04:17 PM (AePd+)
Just sex != forcing to get on insurance, dropped plans, no more doctors, skyrocketing health costs, website not working for the forced product, bumbling administration.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 12:22 PM (IITQ/)
Wife is pulling a two year hitch at the school house.
I plan on trying to hit a Carolina MoMee after I get my hand fixed.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 12:22 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at November 20, 2013 12:22 PM (09o/X)
From Tepid Air:
Brutal Quinnipiac poll of Colorado: ObamaÂ’s job approval at 36/59, Hillary now trails three Republican contenders
http://tinyurl.com/l48t43v
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2013 12:23 PM (d0Dmj)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 12:23 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 20, 2013 12:23 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: cajun caret at November 20, 2013 04:21 PM (UZQM
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 12:23 PM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2013 12:24 PM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: cajun caret at November 20, 2013 12:25 PM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 12:25 PM (LSJmV)
Posted by: 7 Days in May at November 20, 2013 12:25 PM (j6DTo)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 12:25 PM (Xlbr8)
That's weird, I tried that TinyUrl in two different browsers, and both took me to the RCP Obama Polls table.
Posted by: Reno_Dave at November 20, 2013 12:26 PM (bsDPd)
Posted by: Julia at November 20, 2013 12:26 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2013 04:24 PM (XB5Ak)
Let's take this SHIT and call it Bandidni !
Posted by: Barky the Shit Midas at November 20, 2013 12:27 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 20, 2013 12:27 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 12:27 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 12:27 PM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 04:25 PM (LSJmV)
*Screws Gemtech can onto Glock 21, racks slide and waits*
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 20, 2013 12:28 PM (rXcBX)
Posted by: LIV at November 20, 2013 12:28 PM (0FSuD)
Once again. I don't think Baraka or anyone in his regime really give a shit about the polls. They're getting what they want.
Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2013 12:28 PM (66ULQ)
Always cut AWAY.
And I WILL be drunking tonight.
Posted by: cajun caret at November 20, 2013 04:25 PM (UZQM
Aw fuuuuuuu..... that'll pucker you up.
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 12:28 PM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 04:22 PM (IITQ/)
As I stated before, I think the 'just sex' ultimately resulted in 9/11.
Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2013 12:29 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 04:25 PM (LSJmV)
______________________
When you're done I'd like to have a few minutes togo over Shaklee
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 20, 2013 12:29 PM (32Ze2)
Rick Snyder now leading by over FOURTEEN POINTS from a THREE point race a month ago. He was behind a few months ago by 2-8 pts!
Udall is averaging 2-5 pt lead in Colorado Senate seat. Sitting Democrat Senator.
Montana Senate race has republican leading democrat by over 15 pts! Open Seat.
The democrats are losing Pryor, Hagan, Landrieu, and Begich.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 20, 2013 12:29 PM (IITQ/)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 20, 2013 12:29 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: LIV at November 20, 2013 04:28 PM (0FSuD)
Have you two ever had Kaboom ! ?
Posted by: Barky the Shit Midas at November 20, 2013 12:29 PM (nTgAI)
I'll see your Shaklee and raise you a Mary Kay.
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 12:30 PM (YEQ2h)
While the comments are at a lull, can I have a moment to speak to everyone about the wonders of Amway?
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 04:25 PM (LSJmV)
When trying to recruit Amway salespeople, you don't mention Amway until you have them trapped in a room.
Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2013 12:31 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 12:31 PM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Purp at November 20, 2013 04:25 PM (Xlbr
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Which reminds me. OKC is going to be getting a stretch of freezing rain, snow, and sleet. I must go shopping and stock up on staples like pie.
Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2013 12:32 PM (66ULQ)
When trying to recruit Amway salespeople, you don't mention Amway until you have them trapped in a room.
Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2013 04:31 PM (m2CN7)
Pikers
Posted by: Kevin Trudeau at November 20, 2013 12:32 PM (nTgAI)
Protip: Before starting any woodworking project, count your fingers. This will make it easier to determine if you should be rooting through the sawdust as you call 911.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 12:32 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 04:22 PM (9jfyN)
We've been trying to plan one of these for a while now. Several years in my case. Carolina Mo Mee, it would be easier to herd cats.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 20, 2013 12:32 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Baraka THE SLAPCHOP Guy at November 20, 2013 12:32 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, upholstering his throne of skulls at November 20, 2013 12:33 PM (naUcP)
Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2013 04:31 PM (m2CN7)
They often have been known to threaten people with urethra eels, or Kaboom!
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 12:33 PM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 12:33 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: cajun caret at November 20, 2013 12:33 PM (UZQM8)
Boy that sure worked out huh?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2013 12:34 PM (zfY+H)
Posted by: delayna at November 20, 2013 12:34 PM (KnC4k)
And I WILL be drunking tonight.
Posted by: cajun caret at November 20, 2013 04:25 PM (UZQM
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See! There is an upside to everything.
**
BTW...have I told ya'll about the magic of Pampered Chef products?
Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 12:34 PM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Baldy at November 20, 2013 12:36 PM (2bql3)
Posted by: Eric Cartman at November 20, 2013 12:36 PM (/Crba)
I dunno it takes me to RCP...
the first time it took me to a SFW article on the Carolina Pantherettes who put on a show in a stall...
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 12:36 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Baldy at November 20, 2013 04:36 PM (2bql3)
I wouldn't go holding my breath if I were you.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 20, 2013 12:36 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 12:37 PM (/Crba)
HHS Secretary Shecantbeserious also seems to be unaware of her own rules:
"Confidentiality: Protecting information from unauthorized disclosure to people or processes."
Posted by: speedster1 at November 20, 2013 12:37 PM (v40Bj)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2013 12:38 PM (LSJmV)
We'd be MUCH better off with the full retard.
Posted by: DaveA at November 20, 2013 12:38 PM (DL2i+)
The cats will be herded...at least partly.
I aim to meet Vic and others at some location and buy Pizzas ahoy at a minimum.....
God willing I get back to contracts flowing.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 12:38 PM (9jfyN)
Protip: Before starting any woodworking project, count your fingers. This will make it easier to determine if you should be rooting through the sawdust as you call 911.
Pain is weakness leaving the body. And fingers...........
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2013 12:39 PM (d0Dmj)
Posted by: Big Daddy - sometime commentor at November 20, 2013 12:39 PM (GwLJQ)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 12:39 PM (Xlbr8)
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None of those things hooked up the Hoover Upright to Americans' wallets. People are personally hurt. It makes a difference.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2013 12:39 PM (XB5Ak)
So, WTF, I have to PAY for this insurance?
I thought just signing up counted. Posted by: Julia at November 20, 2013 04:26 PM
Schadensurance is a myth.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2013 12:40 PM (iGPSR)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 20, 2013 12:40 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2013 12:40 PM (o+SC1)
I aim to meet Vic and others at some location and buy Pizzas ahoy at a minimum.....
God willing I get back to contracts flowing.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 04:38 PM (9jfyN)
Let me know how I can help make this happen. The last one was almost a 3 moron meetup but then I got stuck with working at the very last minute (fml). EC and TR had a good time anyway...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 20, 2013 12:40 PM (yh0zB)
Yeah it's amazing that several of us in the "unwashed masses" here at the HQ had a better plumb of what a clusterfuck this was than folk trapped in "news cycle by news cycle trench warfare..."
Just saying
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 12:41 PM (9jfyN)
I see the doctor every week, itÂ’s state mandatory. And weÂ’re tested weekly and monthly for blood.
WeÂ’re independent contractors, so we have to get our own
insurance. So this is truly a blessing. We really hope that the kinks
are worked out and that affordable healthcare for all happens.”
**
There ya have it! The whores love it! Then it has to be good like that jelly, Shmuckers!
Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 12:41 PM (wmU4G)
Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 20, 2013 12:41 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2013 12:41 PM (o+SC1)
I'll keep things out there.
My winter is probably tied up in physical therapy for my left hand, and then I need to work to make up for lost time.
Wife's hitch here probably ends Aug of '15 so there's time.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 12:42 PM (9jfyN)
Do they expect to find 10W30 in 'em or something?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 12:43 PM (ZKzrr)
None of those directly hit vast numbers of people in their wallets to the tune of thousands per year.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 12:43 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 12:43 PM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 12:43 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 20, 2013 12:43 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Registered Voter at November 20, 2013 12:44 PM (nUbHY)
I know I can't be the only one.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 20, 2013 04:40 PM (PYAXX)
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This is true. Maybe the repub leadership have decided that being smart by half isn't a good plan.
Ahhhh shit! Who am I kidding.
Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2013 12:45 PM (66ULQ)
I know I can't be the only one.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 20, 2013 04:40 PM (PYAXX)
I have faith. Give them time.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 20, 2013 12:45 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 12:45 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Big Daddy - sometime commentor at November 20, 2013 04:39 PM (GwLJQ)<
Unfortunately, you are correct - and I am sorry about your personal situation. At my company, we found out that the premiums for the exact same policy were going up over 50%. Not more coverage, not better coverage. The same coverage. We put off that by changing our plan year to start on December 1, 2013, letting grandfather the policy for 12 months with "only" a 10% increase. So my employees and I face the spike next December - and I anticipate it being way worse as the insurance death spiral kicks in.
Posted by: Muad'dib at November 20, 2013 12:45 PM (KjlbF)
Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at November 20, 2013 12:46 PM (j0wOO)
Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 20, 2013 12:46 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: SFGoth at November 20, 2013 12:46 PM (OY9lA)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 20, 2013 12:46 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 20, 2013 12:46 PM (bCEmE)
That said... other than the potential cover on amnesty issues (thanks again Rubio), I'm kind of amazed at how the GOP has thus far managed NOT to screw it up.
I know I can't be the only one.
**
They still have time on this. No need to rush, let it simmer, avoid the female anatomy comments. It took 100years for progs to get here, we're not gonna unring this bell in a matter of weeks. This will get worse for the Progs and Pravda of the Potomac.
Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 12:46 PM (wmU4G)
Posted by: CR at November 20, 2013 12:47 PM (sJWQv)
Posted by: Bless Your Cold Black Hearts at November 20, 2013 12:47 PM (kkbgQ)
454 He could always resign and leave Joe Biden in charge. You know, in case he wanted to make things worse.
Posted by: Austin in TX
We'd be MUCH better off with the full retard.
Posted by: Dave
I agree. Joe is possibly stupider than Duh!1. And vicious. But he does not actively hate America like Barky and Mooch.
Posted by: backhoe at November 20, 2013 12:47 PM (ULH4o)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 20, 2013 12:48 PM (ZshNr)
Excuse me Ms. Working Girl. Medical Insurance has always been available to you. And if you really wanted it you could have a sugar daddy pay for it instead of buying you a car and jewelry .
Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2013 12:48 PM (m2CN7)
The decrease would have been greater without Obamacare.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 12:49 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 20, 2013 12:50 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 04:42 PM (9jfyN)
What the hell did you do???
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 20, 2013 12:50 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: GOP Leadership at November 20, 2013 12:51 PM (Tb01R)
"My company's open enrollment period has started .."
Ours just ended and I'm a bit confused by it. I have a basic plan for myself only, the kind of thing I understood would be going away so I'm bracing since insurers are already making adjustments for the pending mandate. My new total contribution: $00.25/wk. One dollar a month.
I'm gobsmacked. I think there's something wrong somewhere.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 20, 2013 12:52 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at November 20, 2013 04:46 PM (j0wOO)
To paraphrase, you're saying we're screwed when Shrillary gets elected in 2016? Who'd a thunk it?
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 20, 2013 12:53 PM (teFlO)
Posted by: John McCain at November 20, 2013 12:54 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: CR at November 20, 2013 04:47 PM (sJWQv)
I seem to recall the pundits saying that Carter would ensure we wouldn't have another Southern Democrat president for generations. Twelve years later we got BJ Clinton.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 20, 2013 12:55 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 20, 2013 12:57 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: fastfreefall at November 20, 2013 12:58 PM (5Vw04)
Posted by: SFGoth at November 20, 2013 12:59 PM (OY9lA)
Posted by: Andy Dufresne at November 20, 2013 01:00 PM (Pr6hk)
I broke it about six years back and kept working on it...
sounds worse than it is but given I am wanting to go back into logistics I need to know it is not gonna be maimed....
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 01:01 PM (9jfyN)
"How does Obama claw his way out of this hole? "
Easy. A Gulf of Tonkin incident. Something more than just bombing a few aspirin factories. Because this Administration has the Best and the Brightest.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at November 20, 2013 01:02 PM (AVz13)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 20, 2013 01:11 PM (vd7A8)
Posted by: FART at November 20, 2013 01:15 PM (i14bS)
Posted by: Tortuga at November 20, 2013 01:24 PM (FmyWU)
Classic.
Posted by: DRJ at November 20, 2013 01:51 PM (iqHi+)
Back before Phony Tony Villaraigosa pretended to mayor it over Los Angeles, there was a push to impose performance-based accountability on the teachers and the LAUSD, which was met with considerable disdain.
"You just can't expect kids from <i>those</i> families to learn anything," one union drone was directly quoted as saying.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at November 20, 2013 01:55 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: fastfreefall at November 20, 2013 02:02 PM (5Vw04)
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at November 20, 2013 02:44 PM (veNB4)
I was at the Tea Party Exempt America Rally on September 10, 2013.
Now, you can say we did not accomplish much, since America was not exempted and implementation proceeded apace on October 1. But by insisting that Obamacare be repealed, defunded, or, at minimum, delayed, the Tea Party ensured that the Narcissist in Chief could do none of these things.
Because once the Terrorists and Hostage Takers of the Tea Party demand a certain course of action, that action becomes the Definition of Evil, according to our Betters in Washington. Don't you think there were more than a few people in the White House on September 30, looking at the looming disaster of the website rollout, who wished they had a little bit more time for implementation? But there was no way this Administration could have delayed implementation, because the Tea Party had made the suggestion.
Posted by: Haiku Guy at November 21, 2013 02:48 AM (bIy5N)
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