November 22, 2013

Obama Officials, Get This, Lied About Reason For Dropping Customer-Friendly Part of Healthcare.gov
— Ace

The "Anonymous Shopper" tool didn't require anyone to enter in all their personal information before checking out insurance plans.

Amazing idea, huh? Shopping for your plan before you enter all of your personal and financial data. Bear in mind, they're not even just asking for your name, billing address, and credit card number; they want All The Things.

Now, why wasn't this part of Healthcare.gov included with Healthcare.gov?

Well, you have two choices. You choose the version you find more plausible.

1) The Anonymous Shopper option wasn't included because Obama knew the public would recoil from the sticker shock of seeing the real prices for insurance he was offering, unmitigated by the cushion of a subsidy. Sure, a lot of people aren't getting subsidies, and so a lot of people will see the huge new costs of insurance under the president's Save Your Family $2500 Per Year law, but he wanted to keep the number of people seeing these huge new premiums to a minimum.

So, he told his people to take this option out. This then required people to enter all their most personal financial data before even seeing what the hell they'd be buying, so that the system could, in theory, calculate a subsidy and deduct it from the premium.

Note that this causes a great deal of problems for the system, as all the tough stuff must be done first.

And he did all this jackass shit, sabotaging his own website, in order to, get this, further deceive the public about the Exciting New Super-High Premiums people would pay under Obamacare.

Or:

2) The Anonymous Shopper feature, the most dead-simple sort of thing you can do on the web (it shows products and prices; some innovation, huh?) just didn't work, so they scrapped it.

Unlike the rest of Healthcare.gov, which they apparently thought was workin' fine.

Now, you-all are a suspicious lot, so I can guess many of you are leaning towards Option 2.

But you're wrong: Documents released by the Administration prove that the Anonymous Shopper function really wasn't working, and that's the only reason they disabled it.

Ah, I'm just fuckin' with you. Of course they lied. And they didn't just, get this, lie to the public about it.

They, get this, lied to Congress about it, which is a little more problematic than lying to the doormat American Public.

Now remember: The Administration's claim is that this feature was taken out due to technical snags. They're specifically denying they chose to disable the feature, because that would imply they did so for reasons of political dishonesty.

Via CNN:

Chao said he made the decision in conjunction with colleagues and testified before Congress last week that it was because the feature “failed so miserably that we could not conscionably let people use it.”

...

The source close to the project, however, said the anonymous shopper function did pass testing conducted in the weeks ahead of the HealthCare.gov launch.

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The successful test occurred on September 17, according to a source familiar with the project. The next day, in an internal e-mail obtained by CNN, Chao wrote the shopper function “isn’t needed and thus should be removed.”

By "isn't needed" you are free to read "is politically unhelpful."

Every single of them is just lying now. Every single thing they say is a lie.


Posted by: Ace at 12:34 PM | Comments (281)
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1

No one expected that!!!

Posted by: The Spanish Inquisition at November 22, 2013 12:36 PM (fwARV)

2 Say it isn't so.

Posted by: Harry at November 22, 2013 12:36 PM (ao2LR)

3

Most states have laws requiring that products actually have a price tag on them.  ObamaCare is being revealed more and more as a scam.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 12:37 PM (hLRSq)

4 PS - 'get this' is working its way into my daily lexicon. 

I can't WAIT to be delivering a briefing about some jackwagon fraudster and be all 'then, the subject, get this, wired the money from a Treasury account to his own.'

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 22, 2013 12:38 PM (fwARV)

5 Can't wait to see Ezra Klein tell us that the reason it wasn't included is that we're all too stupid to use the feature.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:38 PM (yz6yg)

6 Every single of them is just lying now. Every single thing they say is a lie. Since, um, forever.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 12:38 PM (ix+5k)

7 Lying liars gotta lie.

Posted by: Roy at November 22, 2013 12:39 PM (VndSC)

8 ObamaCare is being revealed to be[i/] more and more as of a scam. Posted by: Mikey NTH --------- Just my take, of course

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 12:39 PM (aDwsi)

9

How can the Anonymous Shopper not fucking work? I mean, I really don't know the first thing about computers but that seems like the fucking easiest part.

 

All you do is make a table with all the different rates tied to a Zip code, have the person enter their zip, and boom fucking done. Shit. I could almost make this feature with a few boxes of twinkies, excel, powerpoint, and a bitchin 80's montage and to reiterate, I really don't know how all this computer crap works.

 

Fucking magnets and elves maybe?

Posted by: Jollyroger at November 22, 2013 12:39 PM (t06LC)

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 12:40 PM (aDwsi)

11 The lying bastard is a lying bastard? Do tell!

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 22, 2013 12:40 PM (bb5+k)

12 If obamacare had been legislation beneficial to people, they wouldn't have had to lie to sell us on it. Even through all the lies, a majority of Americans never supported obamacare. But I'm sure we're all still racists. Just clairvoyant racists.

Posted by: elaine at November 22, 2013 12:40 PM (GNZ0/)

13 In the future, everyone will believe the lie for 15 minutes.

Posted by: Andy Warhol at November 22, 2013 12:40 PM (IiIqD)

14 Ah, I'm just fuckin' with you. Of course they lied. I don't know what distresses me more. Them lying or Ace just fucking with us.....

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 12:40 PM (ix+5k)

15 Sounds like there were just mining for details to pass on to ACORN for their dimtard GOTV to glean more voter registrations to steal for the next election.

Posted by: TexBob at November 22, 2013 12:40 PM (6S4Ai)

16 Near-barrel experience

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 12:40 PM (aDwsi)

17 I can't WAIT to be delivering a briefing about some jackwagon fraudster and be all 'then, the subject, get this, wired the money from a Treasury account to his own.' Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 22, 2013 04:38 PM (fwARV) I'd be far, far more impressed if you would deliver that same briefing a different way. "Then, the subject, obviously an Obama voter, wired the money from a Treasury account to his own."

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:40 PM (yz6yg)

18 So, the only component that was apparently tested and worked was removed.

How would this differ from straight up sabotage by one of Americas sworn enemies?

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 12:40 PM (Xlbr8)

19 Every single of them is just lying now. Every single thing they say is a lie. Having worked in healthcare IT and bitched about all of this for many years now, at least I have a plethora of "I told you sos" locked away here and elsewhere. And they're just as worthless as the lies from this Administration and their sycophantic enablers in the MSM.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 12:41 PM (l2h4p)

20 And he did all this jackass shit, sabotaging his own website, in order to, get this, further deceive the public about the Exciting New Super-High Premiums people would pay under Obamacare. *clasps pearls* No. No. I refuse to believe it. The President would never allow such a thing to take place. Never, I say! Soooooooo, to sum up, the only part of the website that was tested and worked was then immediately removed from the site? Do I have that right?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 12:41 PM (VtjlW)

21 Paul Simon said that "The Boxer" was written with   someone like  Obama in mind. Lie, lie, lie. Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie,  lie.

Posted by: Roy at November 22, 2013 12:41 PM (VndSC)

22 >>magnets and elves maybe? The web site was made out of aluminum, so the magnets didn't work.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 22, 2013 12:41 PM (SUKHu)

23 Now, you-all are a suspicious lot, so I can guess many of you are leaning towards Option 2. Ace, you need to read THC from today. You misspelled ya'll. And all y'all know this.

Posted by: tbodie at November 22, 2013 12:41 PM (EYfcP)

24 Tar and feathers.  Hot tar at that.  And run out on a rail.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 22, 2013 12:41 PM (fWOX0)

25 aluminum isn't brown and soft

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 12:42 PM (Xlbr8)

26 Kevin Trudeau of infomercial fame is sitting in the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Chicago because of much less harmful lies. The judges get on their high horse about these kinds of things and he was prosecuted by the same DOJ that won't do a thing about these liars.

Posted by: ejo at November 22, 2013 12:42 PM (GXvSO)

27

"Every single thing they say is a lie."

 

 

Makes things much easier than if it is a mix of truth and lies.

 

 

Again to the Democrats in Congress - Why are you leaving your political future in the hands of your current leadership?  They think nothing of sacrificing you; you aren't even cannon-fodder any more - the cannon-fodder were your lost colleagues in 2010.  You achieve nothing but political death where you are at, not even glory.  Why be the last to politically die for a lie?  Revolt while you still can.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 12:42 PM (hLRSq)

28 Fucking magnets and elves maybe? Posted by: Jollyroger at November 22, 2013 04:39 PM (t06LC) I'm pretty sure to be SSL compliant the elves have to fuck the magnets.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 12:42 PM (VtjlW)

29 I was a-gonna wait til after 5 to crack a beer. fuck it. Troegs Perpetual IPA - in a glass

Posted by: Ghost of hallelujah at November 22, 2013 12:42 PM (XvrTA)

30 As I've stated previously, 40% of all deaths in Texas are preceded by the term "Now watch this". The Obama administration seems to have co-opted this idea for their Obamacare roll-out.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 22, 2013 12:42 PM (P1WNR)

31 Its all lies...even the comas and periods.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 12:42 PM (Xlbr8)

32 Every word they say is a lie, including 'and' and 'the.'

Posted by: Lillian Hellman's Ghost at November 22, 2013 12:43 PM (kbOju)

33 Nooooooooooooobody expects the Kenyan Fabrication!

Posted by: Monty's Python at November 22, 2013 12:43 PM (+H/11)

34 Shocked, shocked etc

Posted by: your winnings, sir at November 22, 2013 12:43 PM (QupBk)

35

Now, you-all are a suspicious lot, so I can guess many of you are leaning towards Option 2.

 

 

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That's y'all, Ace.  Now say it with me.  Y'all.  We need to get you prepped properly before you move to the southern plains.

Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 12:43 PM (66ULQ)

36 Henry "Ciao" Chao and Todd "Ft Marcy" Park are a bang-up tandem.

Posted by: Jayne Cobb at November 22, 2013 12:43 PM (hQE24)

37 My tired, shocked face:  *__*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 12:44 PM (lVPtV)

38 Paul Simon said that "The Boxer" was written with someone like Obama in mind. Lie, lie, lie. Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. Posted by: Roy ---------------- I have squandered my resistance For a pocket-full of mumbles Such are promises...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 12:44 PM (aDwsi)

39 “So, the web site with the subsidy subtraction worked, but the web site without the subtraction didn’t work. Did you consider just subtracting zero?”

Posted by: It was even invented by Arabs. at November 22, 2013 12:44 PM (QF8uk)

40 Now you know why half of me doesn't like Asians.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 22, 2013 12:44 PM (+H/11)

41 It's only called healthcare.gov because fuckyouproles.com was taken.

Posted by: --- at November 22, 2013 12:45 PM (MMC8r)

42 24 Tar and feathers. Hot tar at that. And run out on a rail. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 22, 2013 04:41 PM (fWOX0) I'm thinking more along the lines of piano wire and lamp posts. You know we're heading that way. Why don't we just hurry up and skip to the end?

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 22, 2013 12:45 PM (bb5+k)

43 AlextheChick, *gives her another string of pearls*

Why am I reminded of a scene from Robocop.

"We managed to save the arm."

"Ditch the arm."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 22, 2013 12:45 PM (fWOX0)

44 "Ah, I'm just fuckin' with you. Of course they lied. And they didn't just, get this, lie to the public about it. They, get this, lied to Congress about it, which is a little more problematic than lying to the doormat American Public."

Subpoena everyone in sight for merciless interrogations in front of the appropriate House committees. Of course, they'll try to stonewall and not show up. When that happens, hold the vote and formally hold them in contempt of Congress. As Holder was.

Whenever I suggest this, people ask, "What's the point? Holder still hasn't appeared. They ignore this shit."

True. But this administration needs to be historically commemorated for its absolute paranoid opacity and nonresponsiveness to a co-equal branch of government.

One way to drop the marker on that is by spinning up the numbers on contempt of Congress citations. To the level those numbers ought to be at given the Obama administration's blatant stonewalling, which is the worst in the national history, worse than Watergate. There should have been fifty different Obama officials formally held in contempt of Congress by now. The House is slacking off.

A neat little Wikipedia grenade to throw back in the faces of liberals when in the future they start talking up their imagined commitment to transparency.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2013 12:45 PM (gqT4g)

45 Going to a fundraiser/gala thingy tonight, and we're sharing a table with a couple of Obamabots.

Husband had better keep me away from the wine.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 12:45 PM (lVPtV)

46

Paul Simon said that "The Boxer" was written with someone like Obama in mind. Lie, lie, lie. Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. lie, lie,lie, lie lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie ,lie lie.

Fixed

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 22, 2013 12:45 PM (QM5S2)

47 That's y'all, Ace. Now say it with me. Y'all. We need to get you prepped properly before you move to the southern plains. You = Singular Y'all = 2 to 3 All y'all = 4 or more

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 12:45 PM (ix+5k)

48 All you do is make a table with all the different rates tied to a Zip code, have the person enter their zip, and boom fucking done. Posted by: Jollyroger at November 22, 2013 04:39 PM (t06LC) They're too stupid to realize they they didn't even have to go to all that trouble to hide it. They could have just as easily included a step in the process like an "Estimate Your Subsidy" step which would have then deducted a subsidy cost from the shown premium. The point is to get them to load their information so that you can calculate their subsidy without giving them sticker shock. If you "estimate" their subsidy - and this estimate could have been TOTAL bullshit - and warn them that it's ONLY an estimate, then most people would have kept going to see what their real subsidy would be. They didn't even have to bullshit anyone. But not the crack Obama IT team. Nope. Lying liars have to lie. It's who they are, it's what they do.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:45 PM (yz6yg)

49 Was Chao under oath? I hope so. One more thing to bog Congress down with. Oh, goody! We never get to the end of anything because something new keeps popping up. Cloward-Piven scandal tactics is like nailing jello to the  wall.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 22, 2013 12:45 PM (KL49F)

50 A good product doesn't require laws or killer robots to make you buy it.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 12:45 PM (QupBk)

51 Next week: WH officials admit that they may have "inadvertently" sold the personal and financial information of everyone who tried to enroll in Obamacare to "business interests" in Nigeria and eastern Europe.

Posted by: Stu-22 at November 22, 2013 12:46 PM (AiYlm)

52 See: Calvinball Rules http://www.bartel.org/calvinball/

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 12:46 PM (aDwsi)

53 >> Its all lies...even the comas and periods. Strangely enough, the apostrophe's are telling the truth. (Yes, I know, I'm just torturing y'a'l'l.)

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 22, 2013 12:46 PM (SUKHu)

54 41 It's only called healthcare.gov because fuckyouproles.com was taken. Actually—it’s not.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 22, 2013 12:46 PM (QF8uk)

55 Every app on the planet has print preview so you can see what you get...except one produced by the govt.


Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 12:46 PM (Xlbr8)

56 If they'd wanted to advertise the new higher rates they'd put them somewhere where everyone could see them...like Sandy Fluke's ass.

Posted by: --- at November 22, 2013 12:46 PM (MMC8r)

57 It was not needed in order to do the Websites primary function.... Which is to identify potential Democrat voters for political targeting later... Remember, the info for this site WILL be shared... and under the motor voter law as it provides a Social Service, must have voter registration available... They will soon 'discover' this, and 'fix' it by giving said information to 'voter registration' groups...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2013 12:46 PM (lZBBB)

58 They are lying about everything now and here are some things that are not going to happen. No media drumbeat for the truth and calling the administration out. Their base will not abandon them. No pushes for a press conference so the president can answer questions. No calls for a special prosecutor.

Posted by: Mr Pink at November 22, 2013 12:46 PM (6y59W)

59 oh! and racist per Oprahhhh.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 22, 2013 12:46 PM (QM5S2)

60 Troegs

Posted by: Ghost of hallelujah at November 22, 2013 04:42 PM (XvrTA)

A fine brewery.

One more example for my thesis that American beer is now the best in the world.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2013 12:47 PM (oJ5Fd)

61 Its all lies...even the comas and periods. Half of the admin are in a coma and the other half are on their period ...

Posted by: Adriane... at November 22, 2013 12:47 PM (jdRXP)

62 Anonymous Shopper is the new John Galt.  He/she is the new Sparticus.

"I am Anonymous Shopper!"

Posted by: sandy burger at November 22, 2013 12:47 PM (4dy3y)

63

Buy our  awesome product   valued at  $150.00   for   only  $9.99.  

 

**Shipping and handling $199.99.    

Posted by: polynikes at November 22, 2013 12:47 PM (m2CN7)

64 24 Tar and feathers. Hot tar at that. And run out on a rail. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 22, 2013 04:41 PM (fWOX0) I so wanted to say this, but feared the ban hammer. So thanks. Combining this post with others from today, what kills me is the Founders set up a system based on the idea of an informed citizenry. How can we be informed when the media and political class constantly lie to us "for our own good"? How is that good? Lying to pass your legislation is the mark of evil, isn't it? And a media which doesn't expose such lies is guilty of malpractice or fraud, isn't it?

Posted by: elaine at November 22, 2013 12:48 PM (GNZ0/)

65 Another impeachable offense, but, meh... Everybody Must Get Stoned http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtMPlY3duz4 ~the black crows

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 12:48 PM (IXrOn)

66 51 "business interests" in Nigeria and eastern Europe. That's not who built the site itself?

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 12:48 PM (l2h4p)

67 Chao is being set up as the Designated Scapegoat.

Of course, there always must be one since Obama never takes responsibility for anything, ever.

The good news for Henry is that the typical punishment is a few months off with pay, followed by either retirement with full pension or transfer to a new position with a lower profile.

Posted by: Adjoran at November 22, 2013 12:48 PM (473jB)

68 45 Going to a fundraiser/gala thingy tonight, and we're sharing a table with a couple of Obamabots. Husband had better keep me away from the wine. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 04:45 PM (lVPtV) And other club like objects.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 22, 2013 12:48 PM (bb5+k)

69 >>>Was Chao under oath? i don't know. I deliberately avoided saying so either way. But under oath or not, I don't think you can just lie to congress.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2013 12:48 PM (/FnUH)

70 You have to buy the product to find out what's in the box, and how much it costs.

NO RETURNS
CASH ONLY

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 12:48 PM (Xlbr8)

71 Adriane, and Gaylord is on his Period.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 22, 2013 12:48 PM (fWOX0)

72 >>Chao wrote the shopper function “isn’t needed and thus should be removed.” So he's going to get fired soon, right?

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 22, 2013 12:48 PM (SUKHu)

73 A good product doesn't require laws or killer robots to make you buy it.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 04:45 PM (QupBk)

 

 

Killer Robots are never about requirements or needs - they are about want.  And I want.  Really, really want.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 12:49 PM (hLRSq)

74 I take back what I said a few days ago about not exploring impeachment in favor of focusing on repealing Obamacare.  These lying SOBs should all be spending time in prison for fraud. 

Posted by: no good deed at November 22, 2013 12:49 PM (HsJeN)

75 It's "y'uns".

Posted by: Pittsburgh at November 22, 2013 12:49 PM (A0sHn)

76 But under oath or not, I don't think you can just lie to congress.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2013 04:48 PM (/FnUH)

Hah...Hah...Hah...Hah....

Posted by: Eric Holder at November 22, 2013 12:49 PM (oJ5Fd)

77 It's only called healthcare.gov because fuckyouproles.com was taken. Posted by: --- ------------------- Urban myth. I checked at Snopes. Actually, site was to be called destroythebourgeoisie.gov

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 12:50 PM (aDwsi)

78 They don't even care that we know they're lying. Not even pretending.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 22, 2013 12:50 PM (OxWMl)

79 THE REAL REASON: If people don't enter all their personal info, Enroll America can't sell it to political operatives.

Posted by: --- at November 22, 2013 12:50 PM (MMC8r)

80 Didn't Killer Robots open for Styx in 1982?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 22, 2013 12:50 PM (fWOX0)

81 Wouldn't anonymous shopper with income have made sense for a sane site?  Why was that left out?

Posted by: @ParisParamus at November 22, 2013 12:50 PM (Gcm3A)

82 51 Next week: WH officials admit that they may have "inadvertently" sold the personal and financial information of everyone who tried to enroll in Obamacare to "business interests" in Nigeria and eastern Europe. Posted by: Stu-22 at November 22, 2013 04:46 PM (AiYlm) I know i'm being mean, but I consider this a very good outcome. Most of these people will be Democrats, and the possibility of endless misery and financial ruination on the people who attempted to do this to the rest of us seems like Karma to me.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 22, 2013 12:50 PM (bb5+k)

83 >>The good news for Henry is that the typical punishment is a few months off with pay, followed by either retirement with full pension or transfer to a new position with a lower profile. We could use Chao's understanding of web sales here at Amazon!

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at November 22, 2013 12:50 PM (SUKHu)

84 Hey, don't pull us into this mess.


Or else.

Posted by: Killer Robots at November 22, 2013 12:51 PM (P1WNR)

85 As a proud Texan and lifetime Southron, it pains me to admit that I have stolen youse guys for the encompassing plural.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 12:51 PM (QupBk)

86 Didn't Killer Robots open for Styx in 1982? Â’83. And that really was racist. ItÂ’s one of my most prized album covers.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 22, 2013 12:51 PM (QF8uk)

87 In fairness, that bitch "Anonymous Shopper" was making the rest of the site look bad by actually doing what it was supposed to do so she had to go.  It's the tech equivalent of a chick not wanting to hang out with a skinnier/slightly hotter chick.

Posted by: Joe at November 22, 2013 12:51 PM (QFnhZ)

88 Also, Anonymous Shopper gives us the sads because we don't get as much personal data that we can use for political purposes and sell to other political organizations.

Posted by: Obamacare Navigators - Enroll America, ACORN, La Raza, Planned Parenthood at November 22, 2013 12:51 PM (JRmiD)

89 "Ditch the arm." Ditch the arm! Bring the cannoli!

Posted by: Adriane is easily confused ... at November 22, 2013 12:52 PM (jdRXP)

90 Sadly, there are never any consequences for these lies.  Sure, they'll eventually have to leave office or be thrown out, but they'll all go on to make millions through sweetheart deals with their political buddies.

Meanwhile, a real country, containing 330 million real people, is being destroyed, and many people's lives will be lost because of this mess.

But none of the fuckers responsible will EVER be punished in any significant way.

Posted by: FYNQ at November 22, 2013 12:52 PM (TM1p8)

91 I am beginning to suspect that this Obama fellow may not be as honest as I once believed him to be.

And I had already convinced myself that he was a lying shitweazel who would lie to his own typical white Grandmother.

Probably learned that at the knee of his mother, the recreational cum dumpster.
Or his father, whom used what religious platform to form his internal moral compass again?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 22, 2013 12:52 PM (NDA7a)

92 15 Sounds like there were just mining for details to pass on to ACORN for their dimtard GOTV to glean more voter registrations to steal for the next election.

Posted by: TexBob at November 22, 2013 04:40 PM (6S4Ai)

Well, Project Veritas just showed navigators were "agreeing to help obtain" info for political purposes...

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 22, 2013 12:52 PM (KL49F)

93 I know i'm being mean, but I consider this a very good outcome. Most of these people will be Democrats, and the possibility of endless misery and financial ruination on the people who attempted to do this to the rest of us seems like Karma to me. FIFY.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 12:52 PM (ix+5k)

94 The Media Party: Hey, I've never used AnyF*ckingThing.com

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 12:52 PM (IXrOn)

95 It's yu'ns. Posted by: Pittsburgh at November 22, 2013 04:49 PM (A0sHn) That's just crazy talk.

Posted by: tbodie at November 22, 2013 12:52 PM (EYfcP)

96

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 04:51 PM (QupBk)

 

I unintentionally did the same when I moved north but I soon reverted back after about a year after moving to Houston.    I  tell you what. 

Posted by: polynikes at November 22, 2013 12:53 PM (m2CN7)

97 So it was the only part of the website that actually worked and they got rid of it. Classy.

Posted by: wodun at November 22, 2013 12:53 PM (fbqZE)

98

Posted by: Killer Robots at November 22, 2013 04:51 PM (P1WNR)

 

 

Wait a minute - you don't want to create a five-mile-wide path of destruction, havoc and misery through the District of Columbia?  What kind of cheap Chinese crap are you?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 22, 2013 12:53 PM (hLRSq)

99 "I am Anonymous Shopper!"

Posted by: sandy burger at November 22, 2013 04:47 PM (4dy3y)

 

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Hmmm.  A lot of syllables.  Needs work  for it to catch on.  Remember.  We have to reach the LIV's.

Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 12:53 PM (66ULQ)

100 #38 Still a man hears what he wants to hear And disregards the rest....

Posted by: A whore on seventh ave. at November 22, 2013 12:54 PM (/cUUk)

101 They wants the dataz. Give them the dataz. Everything else is meaningless. These are data miners. This is the ONLY aspect to Obama that is successful. Get the data and leverage it for financial advantage. The lying isn't wrong. It's part of the mission. The President's allies are done defending Obamacare. It is dead. We are entering "protect my career phase". The question will be which Democrats emerge as leaders that survive this.

Posted by: wtfci at November 22, 2013 12:54 PM (NUD0u)

102 Combining this post with others from today, what kills me is the Founders set up a system based on the idea of an informed citizenry. How can we be informed when the media and political class constantly lie to us "for our own good"? How is that good? Lying to pass your legislation is the mark of evil, isn't it? And a media which doesn't expose such lies is guilty of malpractice or fraud, isn't it? Posted by: elaine at November 22, 2013 04:48 PM (GNZ0/) I've been saying this. One party control of all means of news and information to the masses constitutes a defacto sabotage of the electoral process. The public cannot make sensible decisions when they are lied to. Democrat control of the media is a threat to this nation's system of governance.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 22, 2013 12:54 PM (bb5+k)

103 Hol Lee Fuk :

Essay: Tea party has roots in the Dallas of 1963

http://tinyurl.com/malb9ut



Posted by: Dr Spank at November 22, 2013 12:54 PM (P1WNR)

104

But Russell Simmons says that O-care has saved trillions of lives!!!

 

Lying liars who lie.

Posted by: Cheri at November 22, 2013 12:54 PM (G+Wff)

105 They should have let us build the website.

Posted by: Starship at November 22, 2013 12:54 PM (m8PQQ)

106 Gosh, it's almost as if the Obamacare site was designed for Obama and his activist buddies and not....the customer. Huh. Didn't see that coming at all.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 22, 2013 12:54 PM (JRmiD)

107 In the future, everyone will believe the lie for 15 minutes. Posted by: Andy Warhol at November 22, 2013 04:40 PM (IiIqD) In the future, everyone will believe the lie for 15 minutes in slow motion.

Posted by: The Impressionists at November 22, 2013 12:54 PM (IXrOn)

108 Mikey NTH, its the cheap Chinese knock-off junk with missile launchers that don't fire.  But if you eat the paint, get lead poisoning.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (fWOX0)

109 I unintentionally did the same when I moved north but I soon reverted back after about a year after moving to Houston. I tell you what. You bet'cha!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (ix+5k)

110 They, get this, lied to Congress about it, which is a little more problematic than lying to the doormat American Public.


We have to protect our phoney baloney jobs here, gentlemen! We must do something about this immediately! Immediately! Immediately! Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!

Posted by: Darrell Issa and His Phoney Baloney Congressional Hearings at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (8ZskC)

111 Adriane, and Gaylord is on his Period. His black half. His white half is in a coma ...

Posted by: Adriane is easily confused ... at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (jdRXP)

112

Posted by: A whore on seventh ave. at November 22, 2013 04:54 PM (/cUUk)

 

Nice!

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (A0sHn)

113 I AM NOT AN ANIMAL!

Posted by: Anonymous Shopper at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (QupBk)

114 It offended the Obamatons that something worked! "It must all be broken", sayeth the Won.

Posted by: MTF at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (nstXh)

115 In the future, everyone will believe the lie for 15 minutes in slow motion. Now you're getting it.

Posted by: Marcel Marceau[/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (yz6yg)

116 41 It's only called healthcare.gov because fuckyouproles.com was taken.

Posted by: --- at November 22, 2013 04:45 PM (MMC8r)


Yeah, but 1800FUCKY1O was available at least.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (KL49F)

117 You know the saying how a great product sells itself? ObamaCare is not it.

Posted by: Decaf at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (pyqPQ)

118 Now???

Posted by: Joe Wilson at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (xKK9v)

119 I have stolen youse guys for the encompassing plural. Posted by: toby ------------- Time for an intervention..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 12:55 PM (aDwsi)

120 "Ditch the arm."



Sweep the leg.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 12:56 PM (lVPtV)

121 Imagine an economy where all the major components, from groceries, auto manufacturing, utilities, highway construction, airlines, all ran like ObamaCare is running, and all were priced so far above normal, just like ObamaCare is priced. Image what hell daily life would be and how impoverished the average citizen would be. Imaging a world where the central planning committed of "the smartest people in the room" make all these plans that look great on paper but work like shit, where they work at all. Imagine working on one of these projects where the plan is never at fault, where any failure was someone else's, like maybe you cuz you were too far down on the ladder, in some backwater office, say in an old IRS office in Detroit. Congrats: you live in Soviet Union right before it collapsed.

Posted by: theBuckWheat at November 22, 2013 12:56 PM (nmcha)

122 That's Conceivable!!!

Posted by: Vizzini at November 22, 2013 12:56 PM (GXZgZ)

123 Essay: Tea party has roots in the Dallas of 1963
http://tinyurl.com/malb9ut


How long does it take to sew a Star of David onto my coat? I'm just wondering because I have a lot of coats.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2013 12:56 PM (8ZskC)

124 119 Now???

Posted by: Joe Wilson at November 22, 2013 04:55 PM (xKK9v)




Shout it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 12:57 PM (lVPtV)

125 Of course The Anonymous Shopper feature was working.. I logged on to HealthCare.gov a week or two after the debacle of opening day, and they were now allowing you to browse with logging in or setting up an account.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 22, 2013 12:57 PM (f9c2L)

126 Essay: Tea party has roots in the Dallas of 1963 It's WaPo.

Posted by: --- at November 22, 2013 12:57 PM (MMC8r)

127 So let me get this straight..... the bastard son of a whore mother who has severe daddy issues, a malignant narcissistic disorder, a chemical dependence issue, and an unfamiliarity with the truth DOESN'T make a good President?  I will jot it down......

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 22, 2013 12:57 PM (jucos)

128 "Now, you-all are a suspicious lot, so I can guess many of you are leaning towards Option 2."
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C'mon Ace, you're almost there.  Say it!  Say "ya'll."  I know you're up in yankeeland, but I have faith that you can do it.  We won't make you eat grits or say "way out yonder" yet.  Baby steps.

Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 12:57 PM (eHc+1)

129 I know i'm being mean, but I consider this a very good outcome. Most of these people will be Democrats, and the possibility of endless misery and financial ruination on the people who attempted to do this to the rest of us seems like Karma to me. It's Jimmah Carter time. These are voters that are realizing there are limits to how much of other peoples money there is to take. Combined with the slow growth and idle workforce that results from redistribution and you start to freak out about the future. There are going to be Obama voters that will love them some Christie or Bush or Walker once they start hitting the right notes.

Posted by: wtfci at November 22, 2013 12:57 PM (NUD0u)

130 104 Isn't Russell Simmons a manufacturer of mattresses and recliners? As in, "I have a new Russell Simmons sleeper sofa." Anyway, and when the website is finally fixed there will be quadrillions of lives saved!!

Posted by: A whore on seventh ave. at November 22, 2013 12:58 PM (/cUUk)

131 118 You know the saying how a great product sells itself? ObamaCare is not it. Posted by: Decaf at November 22, 2013 04:55 PM (pyqPQ) It just cracks me up, in a sad way... that the Leader of the Free World, the President of the United States.... the man who fills the Office of Washington, and Jefferson, and Lincoln... Is now nothing more than an Insurance Salesman...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2013 12:58 PM (lZBBB)

132 "Ah, I'm just fuckin' with you. Of course they lied. And they didn't just, get this, lie to the public about it."

I chortled.

Great pair of posts you got there.

Posted by: Obamacare-Insured Dog at November 22, 2013 12:58 PM (Kkt/i)

133 What will we be forced to sew onto our coats when they send us off to the camps?  Tea cup patches?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 12:58 PM (lVPtV)

134 Wait a minute - you don't want to create a five-mile-wide path of destruction, havoc and misery through the District of Columbia? What kind of cheap Chinese crap are you? Posted by: Mikey NTH


What part of "we like to choke our victims to death" don't you understand? Also, clean your windows, it's hard to peer in.

Posted by: Killer Robots at November 22, 2013 12:58 PM (P1WNR)

135 Snap!

Posted by: my mind at November 22, 2013 12:58 PM (r60DJ)

136 Mike Hammer's cat could have written a more coherent and functioning web-site than what has been given unto us as a wonder.

Tower of Babel has nothing on this catastrophe.

Adriane, LOL  white half in a coma.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 22, 2013 12:58 PM (fWOX0)

137 How long does it take to sew a Star of David onto my coat? I'm just wondering because I have a lot of coats.
Posted by: Cicero
.........
Don't worry.  We'll only let you take one of those coats to the camp.

You'll like it there.. trust me..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 22, 2013 12:58 PM (f9c2L)

138 They don't even care that we know they're lying. Not even pretending.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 22, 2013 04:50 PM (OxWMl)

 

 

--------------------------------------------------

 

 

This.  They've got the power now and a majority of the populace that's too dumb or lazy to discern the truth.  Why  bother with being honest?

Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 12:58 PM (66ULQ)

139 Posted by: Dr Spank at November 22, 2013 04:54 PM (P1WNR)

I thought you were kidding.

I expected a photo of Helen Thomas or maybe someone twerking.

And after reading this smear on America, I would have preferred Helen Thomas.

Posted by: Eric Holder at November 22, 2013 12:59 PM (oJ5Fd)

140 90 Sadly, there are never any consequences for these lies. Sure, they'll eventually have to leave office or be thrown out, but they'll all go on to make millions through sweetheart deals with their political buddies. Posted by: FYNQ at November 22, 2013 04:52 PM (TM1p Something I've been repeatedly saying is this: After this administration is over, every person who had anything to do with it needs to be prosecuted to suicide. I regard it as the duty of the Next Republican President to direct the DOJ to wipe out these people by bankrupting them, imprisoning them, or driving them to suicide. I would prefer they be lined up against the walls and shot, but we *are* obligated to give them a trial first.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 22, 2013 12:59 PM (bb5+k)

141 Out, damned sock!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2013 12:59 PM (oJ5Fd)

142

Ace wrote, "Every single of them is just lying now. Every single thing they say is a lie."

 

They have been lying.  They are lying now.  They will continue to lie.  And hey, get this, they'll get away with it.  Yes, the President's popularity numbers are low and Obamacare approval numbers are even worse, but those numbers won't translate into eventual repeal.  For one thing, the MSM will continue to cover for this Administration, no matter what. President Obama cannot be perceived as a failure or as the malicious, nation-destroying, neo-Marxist that he is.  For another, the MSM approves of his goals.

 

But, you say, the 2014 midterms are coming up.  So what?  We've seen demonstrable proof that unemployment figures were modified prior to the 2012 presidential election, and that a great number of precincts--particularly in crucial battleground states such as Pennsylvania--were engaged in outright cheating and polling oversight suppression.  Imagine those underhanded efforts magnified tenfold in 2014 and especially in 2016.

 

Control of the press and corruption of the electoral process will stifle whatever advantage the feeble GOP manages to eke out of the Obamacare disaster. 

Posted by: troyriser at November 22, 2013 12:59 PM (O66NZ)

143 Going to a fundraiser/gala thingy tonight, and we're sharing a table with a couple of Obamabots. Husband had better keep me away from the wine. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 04:45 PM (lVPtV) Should be packin' a tape recorder.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 01:00 PM (IXrOn)

144 Mikey NTH, its the cheap Chinese knock-off junk with missile launchers that don't fire. Won them off of Doctor Fang in a poker game.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 22, 2013 01:00 PM (QF8uk)

145 See: Calvinball Rules http://www.bartel.org/calvinball/ Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 04:46 PM (aDwsi) I kind of really really really want to have a MoMee where we play Calvinball now. I see no possible way that can end badly.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 01:00 PM (VtjlW)

146 So let me get this straight..... the bastard son of a whore mother who has severe daddy issues, a malignant narcissistic disorder, a chemical dependence issue, and an unfamiliarity with the truth DOESN'T make a good President? I will jot it down...... Romney should have told us.

Posted by: The MFM at November 22, 2013 01:00 PM (QupBk)

147

118 You know the saying how a great product sells itself? ObamaCare is not it.

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Oh, all that stuff about touchscreen and awesome graphics and killer apps and it fits in the palm of your hand?  I lied about that.  Only way to sell me.

Posted by: the iPhone at November 22, 2013 01:00 PM (A0sHn)

148 Mike Hammer's cat could have written a more coherent and functioning web-site than what has been given unto us as a wonder.


To be fair, Mike Hammer's cat is a pretty damn good SQL coder.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2013 01:00 PM (8ZskC)

149 *inhales deeply*

Mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi...

*cough*

*takes sip of water*

*inhales deeply again*...

Posted by: Joe Wilson at November 22, 2013 01:00 PM (xKK9v)

150 78 They don't even care that we know they're lying. Not even pretending.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 22, 2013 04:50 PM (OxWMl)


They are taunting Congress. Daring them to impeach. I've felt this for awhile now.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 22, 2013 01:01 PM (KL49F)

151 "At this point, what difference does it make?"

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 22, 2013 01:01 PM (Kkt/i)

152 60 - CBD My BIL has a couple friends from England who are huge beer drinkers and they claim Bell's Two-Hearted (one of my all-time faves) is the greatest beer in the world. I've also heard stories of Germans coming over here on "beer trips" just to sample what we have. Germany has some great beers, of course, but nothing really new has happened for centuries. Maybe it's the socialism

Posted by: Ghost of hallelujah at November 22, 2013 01:01 PM (XvrTA)

153 YOU LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Joe Wilson at November 22, 2013 01:01 PM (xKK9v)

154 I regard it as the duty of the Next Republican President to direct the DOJ to wipe out these people by bankrupting them, imprisoning them, or driving them to suicide. Can't. The DOJ is full of people who agree with them. See Holder, Eric.

Posted by: Adriane is easily confused ... at November 22, 2013 01:01 PM (jdRXP)

155 >>What will we be forced to sew onto our coats when they send us off to the camps? Tea cup patches? A tea bag, of course.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 22, 2013 01:01 PM (SUKHu)

156 *pauses*

Grumpy cat picture. 

"I haz all ur data"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 22, 2013 01:01 PM (fWOX0)

157 Essay: Tea party has roots in the Dallas of 1963 http://tinyurl.com/malb9ut Posted by: Dr Spank at November 22, 2013 04:54 PM (P1WNR) If more of these people got their ass whipped for writing such crap, I daresay there would likely be less of it. I note the Muslims don't have this sort of problem with the Presstitutes.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 22, 2013 01:02 PM (bb5+k)

158 I know i'm being mean, but I consider this a very good outcome. Most of these people will be Democrats, and the possibility of endless misery and financial ruination on the people who attempted to do this to the rest of us seems like Karma to me.

It's Jimmah Carter time. These are voters that are realizing there are limits to how much of other peoples money there is to take. Combined with the slow growth and idle workforce that results from redistribution and you start to freak out about the future.
Posted by: wtfci
......
And.. icing on the cake is the fact that their Insurance Salesman in Chief is letting the young healthy ones flout the law.  The responsible Dems will look at their doubled premiums and look at the young Americans not buying any insurance and be even more bitter.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 22, 2013 01:02 PM (f9c2L)

159 I saw Destroy the Bourgosie open for Rage Against the Machine back in 1997.  They were lame.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 22, 2013 01:02 PM (sJlgq)

160 The Obamacare Limited Edition Collectors Version comes with a laugh track.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 01:02 PM (IXrOn)

161 "Going to a fundraiser/gala thingy tonight, and we're sharing a table with a couple of Obamabots. Husband had better keep me away from the wine."

In these situations I tend to drink lightly or not at all.

Go armed with questions. Which can be framed as, "Gosh, I must be dumb, can one of you really smart people explain this to me?"

There's the question about "Gee whillikers, why if Obamacare is so super awesome, why is it that the Obamas aren't part of it? Why are Obama's union allies getting waivers and opt-outs? Why are none of the Hollyweird celebs who cut pro-Obamacare spots actually signing up for it themselves?"

Or the question, "Hey, Obama was telling us just a few months ago that going to war in Syria was the most important foreign policy task in the entire history of the universe. It was his 'top priority'. Since then, crickets. So, um, what's up with that? Cause it seems like the rebels Obama wanted to help are, y'know, losing."

And there's my all time favorite. "You know, back in the 1970s, Democrats in Congress started the process of impeaching Nixon because it was alleged he had used the IRS for political purposes. Now what I can't figure out with my thick head is why that's one whit different from Obama and why the identical action shouldn't be underway right now."

Or you can not ask questions. Just drink heavily and have a stream-of consciousness ramble. Including talking sadly about how many employees hubby is going to have to lay off next year because of Obamacare. And about how tough it is going to be for those people to find decent, safe jobs thanks to Obamanomics.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2013 01:02 PM (gqT4g)

162 #127 Oswald was not a communist, he was a tea partier. Geez, everybody knows that.

Posted by: Joey "Smell-My-Finger" Biden at November 22, 2013 01:02 PM (/cUUk)

163 Why didn't you come to me like a man and tell me I was lying?

Posted by: Scoop Juicebox at November 22, 2013 01:02 PM (GXZgZ)

164 I kind of really really really want to have a MoMee where we play Calvinball now.


I see no possible way that can end badly.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 22, 2013 05:00 PM (VtjlW)

I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 22, 2013 01:03 PM (fwARV)

165 Now???

Posted by: Joe Wilson at November 22, 2013 04:55 PM (xKK9v)

 

 

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Dear Leader's next SOTU speech is going to be a real barn-burner.   Serious, you guys.

Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 01:03 PM (66ULQ)

166

lying to a ball-less, feckless congress more problematic than just lying to the public?   Shirley you jest!  This country now operates on the "what the fuck are you gonna do about it" principle, wherein that is what the more powerful say to the less so, at all levels.

 

And they mean it.  What the fuck are you gonna do about it?

So far, the answer has consistently "nothing".

 

WROL, it's what's for dinner.

Posted by: Normal man spitting on his hands at November 22, 2013 01:04 PM (agLwc)

167 Essay: Tea Democrat party has roots in the Dallas of 1963 Slavery and Communism At least that would be accurate.

Posted by: --- at November 22, 2013 01:04 PM (MMC8r)

168 And today is the opening for the next Hunger Games movie Catching Fire.

I sense karmic synergy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 22, 2013 01:04 PM (fWOX0)

169 124 How long does it take to sew a Star of David onto my coat? I'm just wondering because I have a lot of coats. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2013 04:56 PM Yep... It's 1930s Germany. So now we've invoked Godwin... death panels, gas chambers... What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: elaine at November 22, 2013 01:04 PM (GNZ0/)

170 http://tinyurl.com/k4qnywq

Posted by: McConnell Zings Harried Reid at November 22, 2013 01:04 PM (4eNxd)

171 154 YOU LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Posted by: Joe Wilson at November 22, 2013 05:01 PM (xKK9v) lf you had just said that sooner. ....

Posted by: Mark H..... MFM at November 22, 2013 01:05 PM (EYfcP)

172 Isn't it like at BestBuy.com, when they have a super-great deal on last year's model TV and they can't tell you what the price is until you put it in your cart?

Posted by: AmishDude at November 22, 2013 01:05 PM (T0NGe)

173 They coulda just hired the guys who did the Anonymous Shopper page in 3 days and paid them in beer and weed.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 22, 2013 01:05 PM (1hekh)

174 I've also heard stories of Germans coming over here on "beer trips" just to sample what we have. Germany has some great beers, of course, but nothing really new has happened for centuries. Maybe it's the socialism

Posted by: Ghost of hallelujah

Can't find the article, but I've read that American brewers are being hired by German breweries to play catch-up.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 22, 2013 01:06 PM (KVY+w)

175 ***They, get this, lied to Congress about it, which is a little more problematic than lying to the doormat American Public.*** Only marginally so. Being a Democrat in the executive branch is an immunity defense to any prosecution for perjury, I believe.

Posted by: gm at November 22, 2013 01:06 PM (/kBoL)

176 I would prefer they be lined up against the walls and shot, but we *are* obligated to give them a trial first.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 22, 2013 04:59 PM (bb5+k)


I hear you.  I don't think it is a coincidence that I drafted my post during a break I took in cleaning/servicing the replica black powder, flintlock Pennsylvania rifle I own (same model we used to defeat the Brits during the revolution).

Posted by: FYNQ at November 22, 2013 01:06 PM (TM1p8)

177 "Its all lies...even the comas and periods." Especially the Periods.

Posted by: Decaf at November 22, 2013 01:06 PM (pyqPQ)

178 If I haz mad hacking skilz ... Healthcare.org + yakkity sax ...

Posted by: Adriane is easily confused ... at November 22, 2013 01:06 PM (jdRXP)

179 There are going to be Obama voters that will love them some Christie or Bush or Walker once they start hitting the right notes. Posted by: wtfci at November 22, 2013 04:57 PM (NUD0u) Please don't say "Bush". Some four letter words are just completely inappropriate for a family related blog such as this. While we're at it, I wouldn't use "Christie" either.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 22, 2013 01:06 PM (bb5+k)

180 Look at the bright side, folks. FREE TATTOOS!! I'm not really a tattoo kinda guy. But...FREE

Posted by: Ghost of hallelujah at November 22, 2013 01:07 PM (XvrTA)

181
103 Hol Lee Fuk :

Essay: Tea party has roots in the Dallas of 1963
http://tinyurl.com/malb9ut

Posted by: Dr Spank

A sizable portion of Ø-Merica is insane, retarded, impaired, or dumber than a rock. Including Duh!1 polluting the White House. And his beard.

But then, you knew that already knew that....

Posted by: backhoe at November 22, 2013 01:07 PM (ULH4o)

182 175+ comments about lies and not one mentioning mouths? It's like I don't even know you guys anymore.

Posted by: fluffonutta at November 22, 2013 01:07 PM (akvDz)

183 153 - No, it's Reinheitsgebot- The German beer purity law.

Water, hops and malt were the only ingredients allowed by law.  There's only so much variety when limited like that.

Americans put all kinds of shit into beer these days.

My latest fave:  Kona Brewing's "Fire Rock" - a pale ale.. nice!

http://tinyurl.com/43zgzx3

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 22, 2013 01:07 PM (f9c2L)

184 Dr. Spank, I started reading the article about the Tea Party's roots in 1963 and had to stop.  Written by a journalism professor of course.

Posted by: Cheri at November 22, 2013 01:07 PM (G+Wff)

185 "they want all the Things'  LOL

 later "just fkn with you"

(we are a bad influence on ace, or visa versa.)

Posted by: willow at November 22, 2013 01:08 PM (nqBYe)

186 But under oath or not, I don't think you can just lie to congress. Every one of these bastids needs to be considered "under oath" whenever they're speaking in an official capacity. I propose they have to hold up a ping pong paddle whenever they're speaking "off the cuff" and not in an official capacity. Any other time, they're speaking as an official and are held to the same standard as any citizen speaking to the FBI, IRS, or any other investigative group.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 01:08 PM (sByIH)

187 As a proud Texan and lifetime Southron, it pains me to admit that I have stolen youse guys for the encompassing plural.
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This makes me want to cry.  I hope Obamascare covers rehab for this awful condition.

Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 01:09 PM (eHc+1)

188 Hope Obama isn't working on commission. Armed with a gun and he's still the worst insurance salesman ever. Excuse me- EVAH!

Posted by: t-bird at November 22, 2013 01:09 PM (FcR7P)

189 Next week: WH officials admit that they may have "inadvertently" sold the personal and financial information of everyone who tried to enroll in Obamacare to "business interests" in Nigeria and eastern Europe. Posted by: Stu-22 at November 22, 2013 04:46 PM (AiYlm) Worse, the IRS.* *yeah, I know

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 01:09 PM (IXrOn)

190 Can't. The DOJ is full of people who agree with them. See Holder, Eric. Posted by: Adriane is easily confused ... at November 22, 2013 05:01 PM (jdRXP) Eric Holder won't be there when the Next Republican administration takes over.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 22, 2013 01:10 PM (bb5+k)

191 Amazing how evil the Left finds any rhetoric of the Right, however innocuous, but their own daily bile is simply the Milk of Human Kindness and Troof2Powah, even assassination porn and ludicrous conspiracy theory.

Posted by: --- at November 22, 2013 01:10 PM (MMC8r)

192 anyway  of course The HAD to lie. We MADE them lie, because we kept pointing out the issues with Obamacare.
so  what's  an administration to do  lie  of course. along with their toadies in the media that Blame  us for telling the truth!

Posted by: willow at November 22, 2013 01:10 PM (nqBYe)

193 No, it's Reinheitsgebot- The German beer purity law. Water, hops and malt were the only ingredients allowed by law. There's only so much variety when limited like that. Americans put all kinds of shit into beer these days. Ima gonna make a Civet beer. Feed Civet cats hops and follow them around and scoop up their droppings for making brewskies! Works for coffee!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 01:11 PM (ix+5k)

194 Looks like l got something on my sock I need to get off.

Posted by: tbodie at November 22, 2013 01:11 PM (EYfcP)

195 Go armed with questions. Which can be framed as, "Gosh, I must be dumb, can one of you really smart people explain this to me?" Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2013 05:02 PM (gqT4g) Really? Cause I think the idea of bludgeoning them with a wine bottle is a whole lot simpler.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 22, 2013 01:12 PM (bb5+k)

196 Anonymous Shopper wasn't a gender, race, sexual preference, or age they could exploit, so they shelved it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 01:12 PM (IXrOn)

197 Couldn't they have had Julia design the website?

Posted by: --- at November 22, 2013 01:12 PM (MMC8r)

198 139 They don't even care that we know they're lying. Not even pretending. Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 22, 2013 04:50 PM (OxWMl) -------------------------------------------------- This. They've got the power now and a majority of the populace that's too dumb or lazy to discern the truth. Why bother with being honest? Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 04:58 PM The reason they're not even bothering to lie convincingly now is because that's how lying psychopaths behave once you've confronted them with their constant lies. They know you know they're lying, so they can't be bothered with putting out the effort they normally might when there was a chance -- however slight -- that you still might believe them. Once they've been caught and confronted, it's no fun to "play" with you anymore; so the inept, obvious lies become standard. It's not a coincidence that professions with high numbers of psychopaths include both politics and journalism...

Posted by: elaine at November 22, 2013 01:13 PM (GNZ0/)

199 Really? Cause I think the idea of bludgeoning them with a wine bottle is a whole lot simpler. And waaaaaaay moar satisfying.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 01:13 PM (ix+5k)

200 Lyin prez iz lyin

Posted by: lolprez at November 22, 2013 01:13 PM (+H/11)

201 Ace forgot option (3), you have to input all your personal information so it can be illegally provided to liberal institutions and think tanks.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 22, 2013 01:13 PM (T1005)

202 I keep seeing these things that say you have to put info in to get prices. Can anyone explain to me what this is? https://www.healthcare.gov/health-plan-information/

Posted by: Name at November 22, 2013 01:14 PM (kdYPC)

203 Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2013 05:08 PM (sByIH)

I agree. I've always felt that the Oath of Office that these officials take should mean they are under oath whenever they talk to the public. And if they are lying, then they should be convicted of perjury.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 22, 2013 01:14 PM (KL49F)

204 Obama lies?  NOW you tell me.

Posted by: Mark Halperin at November 22, 2013 01:14 PM (sJlgq)

205

Ima gonna make a Civet beer.

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The Reinheitsgebot was unchanged since 1516, but has been amended to allow weasels.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at November 22, 2013 01:14 PM (A0sHn)

206 When I go into the mall to shop, I give them all my accounts and tax returns before they let me in to shop and hopefully purchase It's just simpler that way

Posted by: Thunderb at November 22, 2013 01:14 PM (zOTsN)

207 sorry tbodie.

Posted by: willow at November 22, 2013 01:15 PM (nqBYe)

208 Chao said he made the decision in conjunction with colleagues and testified before Congress last week that it was because the feature “failed so miserably that we could not conscionably let people use it.” -- THEORY? Perhaps. Heh, Conspiracy: He made the decision in conjunction with colleagues and testified of their ploy before Congress. So when stating, "that we could not conscionably (sic) let people use it," understand that they unconscionably let people use it. BTW, this administration overdoes the smartass deconstruction of vocabulary in context for nonsense. To sound smart. Not. Example, Forest Rangers telling American citizens they may not "recreate" -- no viewing of Nature tolerated. "No Recreating In This Park!" RECREATE? As if intimating "no evolution here, no viewing allowed" or even "no sexual activity or birthing allowed" while physically pushing back American citizens. "Get Out Or Else!" Obama's administrative subliminal and real-time abuses are far too macabre for anyone to either justify or to tolerate.

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 22, 2013 01:15 PM (MhA4j)

209 healthcare.gov insurance 15 hours will cost you 150%...if you're lucky.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 22, 2013 01:15 PM (T0NGe)

210 We are going fix this Obama care mess !

Right after we punch Tea Partiers in the nose and pass Amnesty.


Promise!

Posted by: McConnell, Boehner, McCain, Graham and RINOs Inc. at November 22, 2013 01:15 PM (5ikDv)

211 Oh and what is that phrase Ace alway uses? It's in my nature

Posted by: Thunderb at November 22, 2013 01:15 PM (zOTsN)

212 Hol Lee Fuk : Essay: Tea party has roots in the Dallas of 1963 http://tinyurl.com/malb9ut Posted by: Dr Spank at November 22, 2013 04:54 PM (P1WNR) And, there you have it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 01:16 PM (IXrOn)

213 "We've seen demonstrable proof that unemployment figures were modified prior to the 2012 presidential election," And whoever believes the reported ObamaCare enrolment numbers is a fool.

Posted by: Decaf at November 22, 2013 01:16 PM (pyqPQ)

214 Wait, so "I'll just put the tip in" could be a lie? Well, you can believe two answers. One, the rest of my dick was pushed in my your wild movements. or Two, I lied.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 22, 2013 01:16 PM (0FSuD)

215 To paraphrase: One lie is a scandal, a million lies is an administration.

Posted by: Boone at November 22, 2013 01:16 PM (3p8HS)

216 Armed with a gun and he's still the worst insurance salesman ever. Excuse me- EVAH! He's still awesome at improving gun and ammo sales!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, upholstering his throne of skulls at November 22, 2013 01:17 PM (naUcP)

217 When I go into the mall to shop, I give them all my accounts and tax returns before they let me in to shop and hopefully purchase


We only ask for that information from fat black women who pull up in big limos.  We don't want them smudging the $36,000 purses unless we're sure they can pay.

Posted by: Trois Pommes, Zurich at November 22, 2013 01:17 PM (8ZskC)

218 Cause I think the idea of bludgeoning them with a wine bottle is a whole lot simpler. Remember to switch hands so you develop evenly.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 01:18 PM (QupBk)

219 Read the transcript, Candy!

Posted by: Boone at November 22, 2013 01:18 PM (3p8HS)

220 CA has the shopping tool All it requires is age, zip code,and income range.

Posted by: Generalissimo Taco at November 22, 2013 01:18 PM (kkbgQ)

221 We used to rock climb behind h Kirner Pills Brauerei in Kirn, Germany. The owners let us cut through the property and leave our stuff in their garage. Little stout bottles kinda like Red Stripe. I wish I could say it was great, but it wasn't. I preferred the more popular Bitburger. They sell it in the States but it's not the same beer, just a brand.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 22, 2013 01:18 PM (ZshNr)

222
Is there ANYTHING with Healthaquiddick that actually, you know, "works"?

Because it looks an awful lot like the managers were more concerned with using this boondoggle to send mountains of money to political cronys and slush funds, flesh out lists of voter names with highly sensitive personal info for campaign purposes and provide the Donks with the mother of all opposition research databases. THAT stuff appears to have gone off without a hitch.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 22, 2013 01:18 PM (TIIx5)

223 Husband had better keep me away from the wine. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 22, 2013 04:45 PM (lVPtV) Why? Spill some red wine on the assholes and say it's the websites fault.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 22, 2013 01:18 PM (0FSuD)

224 Tepid Air is reporting that the new deadline has been moved back from Dec. 15th to the 23rd.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 01:19 PM (ix+5k)

225 "Every single thing they say, get this, is a lie."

FIFY

Posted by: Jimbo at November 22, 2013 01:19 PM (V70Uh)

226 Remember to switch hands so you develop evenly. Learn to dual-wield. Good exercise, builds coordination, and useful when outnumbered in a bar fight.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, upholstering his throne of skulls at November 22, 2013 01:19 PM (naUcP)

227 Or a YouTube video

Posted by: Ghost of hallelujah at November 22, 2013 01:19 PM (XvrTA)

228 How about Possible Reason 3: The Anonymous Shopper option was scrapped because the intent of the Obamacare website is to private data for political purposes. Oh sure, we are assured that (despite the glaring security holes and the repeated and overwhelming evidence that the IRS, FBI, DOJ, Census Bureau and several other government agencies have used private data for political witch hunts) the largest government database ever created in the history of man is simply to help you get a better insurance policy. Oh, and never mind that NONE of the elements of the Healthcare.gov website work properly, with the notable and solitary exception of the portion that collects all of your personal data. Trust them. They're from the government. They're here to help.

Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at November 22, 2013 01:20 PM (j0wOO)

229 "We've seen demonstrable proof that unemployment figures were modified prior to the 2012 presidential election,"

And whoever believes the reported ObamaCare enrolment numbers is a fool.

Posted by: Decaf at November 22, 2013 05:16 PM (pyqPQ)

 

 

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In the Soviet Union, no one believed anything coming from the government.  We're there now.

Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 01:20 PM (66ULQ)

230 I just realized something that is making me smile  .



I always underestimate how long it takes for events to fully unfold.  For example, I had dealings with the FDIC when a bank failed in the 1980's.  I thought it would take months to resolve, and it took several years.


I saw the dot.com bubble about 8 months too early and missed the run up, and then guessed the bottom way too soon and missed that, too.


Etc, Etc, Etc.  I underestimate the time.  So, why does that make me smile?


Because the problems for the lying leftists are just getting started, and they will go on for a reeeeeeeeaaaaaallllly, loooooonnnnnnnnggggggg time.

Posted by: jc at November 22, 2013 01:21 PM (PlzOe)

231 Does the House have the right to bring charges up in Federal courts, or do they have to convince the DOJ to press charges?

Posted by: Goatweed at November 22, 2013 01:21 PM (8HrdX)

232 Nice all these emails are leaking out, must be driving Obama insane.

Posted by: Jean at November 22, 2013 01:21 PM (CMlD4)

233 Ace,

I'm looking for option #3..  They ask for all your information so once the enrollment period ends, they know where to send the fine and the audit notice.  Good 'ole wing of partisan politics that IRS..

Posted by: Bart at November 22, 2013 01:21 PM (T2G4D)

234 Jane, I will bring you all the wine in Wisconsin if you will let me come sleep on a  pallet in your garage.  Supposed to be below zero here tomorrow AM.  Too early for that crap!

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 22, 2013 01:21 PM (KjlbF)

235 preferred the more popular Bitburger. They sell it in the States but it's not the same beer, just a brand. Bitburger is good stuff, but man it will give you some mean ass farts. I am talking change underwear sulfur farts from hell.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 22, 2013 01:21 PM (0FSuD)

236 We probably shouldn't hold our breath waiting for Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro Vermont to weigh in

Posted by: ADK46er at November 22, 2013 01:21 PM (1H+lb)

237 Unfortunately, the Republicans wouldn't sell us any helium and we were forced to use hydrogen to launch the website.

Posted by: Health-enburg.gov at November 22, 2013 01:22 PM (MMC8r)

238 Because the problems for the lying leftists are just getting started, and they will go on for a reeeeeeeeaaaaaallllly, loooooonnnnnnnnggggggg time. It would be funny were it happening in another country. As it is, it sux.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 01:22 PM (QupBk)

239 Damiano the Economic Traitor InfoWars and Zero Hedge Reader :0

Posted by: Jean at November 22, 2013 01:23 PM (CMlD4)

240 "A lie told often enough becomes the truth." -- Lenin "In our country the lie has become not just a moral category but a pillar of the State." -- Solzhenitsyn

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:23 PM (M8OWQ)

241 On the plus side, new rifle waiting for me at my FFL.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 01:23 PM (QupBk)

242 What works extremely well on Heathaquiddick is creating a data base to give to Acorn GOTV

Posted by: Thunderb at November 22, 2013 01:23 PM (zOTsN)

243 Good thing Obama wasn't selling Buckyballs or the FTC would come down on him like a ton of shit bricks.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at November 22, 2013 01:23 PM (kUgpq)

244 "Obama Officials, Get This, Lied About Reason For Dropping Transparent Part of Healthcare.gov"

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:23 PM (M8OWQ)

245 Potemkinism.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:24 PM (M8OWQ)

246 OT, I can't believe no one has ripped this off to sell it for scrap.
http://is.gd/a42zH7

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 22, 2013 01:24 PM (ZKzrr)

247 Official Lies.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:24 PM (M8OWQ)

248 We probably shouldn't hold our breath waiting for Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro Vermont to weigh in.
--

Yeah, it's hard to tell when she's going to escape from the insane asylum again.

Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 01:24 PM (eHc+1)

249 As Official Policy.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:24 PM (M8OWQ)

250 The Most Transparent Communist Administration Ever.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:24 PM (M8OWQ)

251 It's interesting how quickly the media (and all my liberal acquaintances) have forgotten that Democrats held up every single Bush judicial nomination for three months.

So much for 'unprecedented gridlock' forcing Reid's hand.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 22, 2013 01:24 PM (fwARV)

252 Half of the admin are in a coma and the other half are on their period ...

And that's just the males.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at November 22, 2013 01:24 PM (DL2i+)

253 238 We probably shouldn't hold our breath waiting for Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro Vermont to weigh in Mary's at the Apple Festival dancing with her "companion" They are singing this. http://tinyurl.com/3ypswzw

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 22, 2013 01:24 PM (0FSuD)

254 Nood up!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 01:25 PM (ix+5k)

255 I was stationed at Bitburg. They used the steam heat from the beer factory to heat the base

Posted by: Thunderb at November 22, 2013 01:25 PM (zOTsN)

256 Our delivery guy would bring us hot Schnitzel sandwiches, curry wurst, bratwurst, etc. and a plastic milk crate of 8 one-liter bottles of Bitburger, all in one fell swoop. And we weren't allowed to buy beer on post at the time so that was huge. Bitte ein Bit!

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 22, 2013 01:26 PM (ZshNr)

257 Leftists are obsessed with bringing about the "cavity-search society." They believe that people who don't "know" how to prostate themselves should have as few rights as possible.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:26 PM (M8OWQ)

258 And they are also interested in training people so that they are as habituated as possible to the "cavity-search society."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:27 PM (M8OWQ)

259 So, healthcare.gov, as currently constituted and constructed, is perfectly in line with that "philosophy."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:28 PM (M8OWQ)

260 234 Nice all these emails are leaking out, must be driving Obama insane.
Posted by: Jean

He is already. And dumber than a bag of hammers....

Posted by: backhoe at November 22, 2013 01:29 PM (ULH4o)

261 When I go into the mall to shop, I give them all my accounts and tax returns before they let me in to shop and hopefully purchase

That's not the worst of it at the Obamacare Clothing Outlet.

First, they strip you of all clothing not meeting the standards set by the Clothing Committee.  Prepare to be naked.

They then threaten you with a fine if you do not purchase new clothing.

Before you may enter a store approved by the Clothing Committee, you must hand over your financial and personal information while bystanders look over your shoulder.  The prices are a carefully guarded State Secret until you gain entry, so bring lots of money.

Upon trying to enter, you find the door lock is jammed.  Try for a few more hours and it may or may not work.

After crawling through the ceiling hatch, you find three different types of clothing, all two to three times more expensive than retail.

After choosing an outfit, you may now approach the register to pay for them.  Or at least you could if the register wasn't broken. 

The manager then invites you to order by mail or phone from a catalog, promises the register and door will be fixed in a month.  Maybe.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 22, 2013 01:31 PM (SY2Kh)

262 Lower-echelon Atheists are fond of some degree of honesty because they have been conditioned that way by "relatively" upper-echelon Atheists (e.g. their parents and teachers), and because of a small number of memes they end up internalizing, as well as fear and a desire to please others and to be "good boys." The same does not apply to Apex Atheists.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:32 PM (M8OWQ)

263 The first experiment is thoroughly-Atheistic/proletarian governance (the Soviet Union) went quite poorly in large part because of how prone to immorality fanatical Atheists and proletarians were.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:34 PM (M8OWQ)

264 On the other hand, CPSU was always very good at coming up with a Party line and sticking to it, at least until the next Party line was devised by the various Party "theoreticians" and ass holes.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:36 PM (M8OWQ)

265 Apparatchiks were always very good at parroting the Party line even though they did not believe it was in any way true.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:38 PM (M8OWQ)

266 To follow up on #162 when a union gets a waiver, is the union allowed to sell a sub-standard insurance policy?

Posted by: Goatweed at November 22, 2013 01:38 PM (8HrdX)

267 Mike Hammer's cat could have written a more coherent and functioning web-site than what has been given unto us as a wonder. To be fair, Mike Hammer's cat is a pretty damn good SQL coder. Posted by: Cicero ---------------------------- A lot better than that hairless idiot Hammer. Fuck him..., and his little dog too. ------------------- SELECT MIN(a.idno) AS min_id, a.CustomerID INTO tmp_Min_Idno FROM (SELECT idno, CustomerID FROM Clients) AS a INNER JOIN (SELECT CustomerID, count(*) AS cn FROM Clients GROUP BY CustomerID HAVING count(*) > 1) AS b ON a.CustomerID=b.CustomerID GROUP BY a.CustomerID; ------------------------ bitchez

Posted by: Mike Hammer's Cat at November 22, 2013 01:38 PM (aDwsi)

268 And of course apparatchiks are always very good at doing what they are told to do, at least at a declarative level.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:38 PM (M8OWQ)

269 Which is to say that Comrade Chao might be acting at Chairman Maobama's behest.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:39 PM (M8OWQ)

270 Then again, who knows how attentive Obama is to any of this. It really might be Jarret or one of his other aides.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:40 PM (M8OWQ)

271 And, to be fair, the only Congress about which Obama cares is the Party Congress of the CPSU.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:42 PM (M8OWQ)

272 Recall that when "Scooter"" Libby remembered something differently than a journalist he went to prison, lost his law license and paid a hefty fine (prison was commuted by W).

When this all washes out I can guarantee you not one single democrat will be so much as had a grievance filed against them.

One side plays to win...one side just plays around.

Posted by: BuckIV at November 22, 2013 01:43 PM (gedHR)

273 "Chao said he made the decision in conjunction with colleagues and testified before Congress last week that it was because the feature “failed so miserably that we could not conscionably let people use it.”" Indeed.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:46 PM (M8OWQ)

274 "The source close to the project, however, said the anonymous shopper function did pass testing conducted in the weeks ahead of the HealthCare.gov launch." Inconceivable!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:46 PM (M8OWQ)

275 "The successful test occurred on September 17, according to a source familiar with the project. The next day, in an internal e-mail obtained by CNN, Chao wrote the shopper function “isn’t needed and thus should be removed.”" Because Altruism. And Empathy.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:47 PM (M8OWQ)

276 Sounds like there were just mining for details to pass on to ACORN for their dimtard GOTV to glean more voter registrations to steal for the next election.

Posted by: TexBob at November 22, 2013 04:40 PM (6S4Ai)



Exactly. Remember Maxine Waters crowing about Obama having so much data on everyone? This is his long game that he and Michelle talk about.


Get people on welfare then sign them up as Dems.

Posted by: PJ at November 22, 2013 02:10 PM (ZWaLo)

277 From the page the idiot troll linked to: "Final price quotes are available only after someone has completed a Marketplace application." So, we have a massive table of prices covering a narrow range of possibilities that doesn't reflect the actual price because, shock, you have to fill out a bunch of forms in order to get another estimated cost that will, most likely, be wrong.

Posted by: Blake at November 22, 2013 02:38 PM (WuGBT)

278 I just want to complain about the lack of any relevant context in the reportage of O'Care enrollments:

1. On the "surge" in enrollments.... punting a football a whopping 5 yards yesterday and 10 yards today yields an impressive % improvement in just 1 day, but it's still nothing to congratulate.

2. How many who "enrolled" are Medicaid versus actual open-wallet payers of insurance?

3. How many of the newly enrolled are just an offset of the population who unexpectedly" got a cancel notice?

4. Why is the new mandated exchange so lauded when we already have a functional exchange in einsurance.com?

5. What are the federal targets by age demographic versus the actual enrollment by age demographic? In other words, how close are we to the breakeven point?






Posted by: Steamed Hams at November 22, 2013 02:59 PM (jFUTR)

279 So, the administration lied to congress and the Republicans in Congress will do diddly crap about it. No one will be fired. No one will go to jail. That's why I've lost most of my taste for politics. I used to volunteer for political campaigns, donate money, etc. Now I spend more time with hobbies.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at November 22, 2013 03:08 PM (VRc/p)

280 Lying liars lie. I believe Muslims are allowed to lie to infidels. And that, sir & madam is the religion to which Obama clings.

Posted by: idaho_karen at November 22, 2013 04:02 PM (vz/Fc)

281 After this administration is over, every person who had anything to do with it needs to be prosecuted to suicide. Posted by: D-Lamp at November 22, 2013 04:59 PM (bb5+k) Oh I hope you are correct and we see the end of this administration. My distrust of BHO goes to a scary place that suspects he is capable of seizing permanent power.

Posted by: idaho_karen at November 22, 2013 04:25 PM (vz/Fc)

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