November 05, 2013
— Ace It's not a new low -- he had some bad months mid-2011 -- but it is a recent low.
Furthermore, I think this time it will stick. Because his personal favorability is now also underwater.
And with the news each day about his Gigantic Lies in Service of His Gigantic Incompetence, this stuff is going to hang around long enough to make an impression.
The old take was that, no matter how bad Obama was doing, he was a Nice Man who was Trying to Do the Right Thing. His serial lying and new round of serial lying to explain his past lies (which I'll link next post, even though you now all know about it) obliterates the Nice Man who Is Trying to Do The Right Thing narrative.
He's not just a failure anymore; he's a dishonest, shifty politician who lies to the American people -- and hurts them! -- to get what he wants.
And then who, having lied about just about everything, also fails.
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Posted by: wg at November 05, 2013 09:31 AM (VLwXP)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 05, 2013 09:31 AM (hLRSq)
I know I'll never be satisfied (he'll never have a favorability rating in the negatives, though he deserves it), but it's nice to at least see things trending in the right direction.
Now if they'd just trend a little faster, please.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:31 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 05, 2013 09:32 AM (PZ6/M)
TFG's lying speech yesterday didn't help. His lame effort to walk back his oft-made "promises" was lame.
This has to be the slowest acting Preference Cascade in recorded history.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 05, 2013 09:32 AM (0HooB)
"And with the news each day about his Gigantic Lies in Service of His Gigantic Incompetence, this stuff is going to hang around long enough to make an impression."
Pardon me Mr. President, your Legacy is at the door.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 05, 2013 09:32 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Brewer at November 05, 2013 09:33 AM (eV1I0)
Posted by: claire cloggenstein, of the california cloggensteins at November 05, 2013 09:33 AM (5aT64)
The other 39% support rape, by the way.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 05, 2013 09:33 AM (nnkXw)
Posted by: furious at November 05, 2013 09:34 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 05, 2013 09:34 AM (MhA4j)
Why is that? There's no possible way it can still be this high.
Unless....they're polling OFA lackeys in the same room.
Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 09:34 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at November 05, 2013 09:35 AM (SCcgT)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 09:35 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Dr Spank at November 05, 2013 09:35 AM (qRasw)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2013 09:35 AM (pHivF)
In case you missed it on the last thread, it gets even better - Kathy and the Clown Posse have declared that the exchanges aren't a "Federal Health Care" system, so now they are exempt from anti-kickback laws:
...but the Obama administration has ruled that neither the federal insurance exchange nor the federal subsidies paid to insurance companies on behalf of low-income people are “federal health care programs.”
The surprise decision, disclosed last week, exempts subsidized health insurance from a law that bans rebates, kickbacks, bribes and certain other financial arrangements in federal health programs, stripping law enforcement of a powerful tool used to fight fraud in other health care programs, like Medicare.
The main purpose of the anti-kickback law, as described by federal courts in scores of Medicare cases, is to protect patients and taxpayers against the undue influence of money on medical decisions...
This apparently caught a LOT of people by surprise.....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 05, 2013 09:35 AM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 05, 2013 01:33 PM (nnkXw)
At least until recently Obammy was bought and paid for by the Saudis, so that's not entirely unexpected.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:35 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 09:36 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2013 09:36 AM (pHivF)
Posted by: furious at November 05, 2013 09:36 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 05, 2013 09:36 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 09:36 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 09:36 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 05, 2013 09:37 AM (dYf+Z)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 05, 2013 09:37 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 05, 2013 09:37 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 09:38 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, puttin' a hit out on Pixy at November 05, 2013 09:38 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 05, 2013 01:35 PM (PZ6/M)
Well of course. Because a lot of people are relatively honest. Even the dishonest ones are sometimes amazed by the sheer LEVEL of dishonesty to which their dishonest colleagues will stoop.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:38 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Harry Reid at November 05, 2013 09:38 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Rev Al at November 05, 2013 09:38 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 09:38 AM (+cx5n)
Its a 3 day rolling avg, so there is a fair chance that it will be 38% tomorrow.
The bad news is he has 3 more years to give it to us up the back side, because he can't be impeached and convicted. The lower that number gets, the more bitter and vengeful he will get.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2013 09:39 AM (nKUHR)
They haven't actually had to shop for health insurance yet.
Posted by: Dang at November 05, 2013 09:39 AM (Hx2XA)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 05, 2013 01:35 PM (PZ6/M)
The type of people who would trust a Chicago/Cook County Democrat. Turns out, that's quite a fair number of people.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 05, 2013 09:39 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2013 09:39 AM (vO9wV)
Barry: I'd still get re-elected because all I have to do is start about racism, sexism, homophobia and bigotry and the MFM would do their part to seal the deal. I know there are enough idiots out there who, no matter how much we screw them, will still vote for me.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 05, 2013 09:39 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at November 05, 2013 09:39 AM (j0wOO)
And then plays 18 holes while the rest of us struggle to make ends meet and see our margin eaten up by higher insurance costs.
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2013 09:39 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: T. at November 05, 2013 09:39 AM (ldkXG)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 05, 2013 01:32 PM (0HooB)
Well, hopefully that means that it will last for a long, long time - God willing, through the next two elections.
We have GOT to get enough people riled up and angry enough to vote as many of these weasels out of office - and replace them with strong conservatives - to be able to effect some real change.
Otherwise, this "grand experiment' is doomed.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 05, 2013 09:40 AM (PZ6/M)
And if it isn't obvious yet, the individual mandate is the canary in the coalmine - as we all know, the employer mandate will result in exponentially more cancellations of "healthcare plans and doctors that you like." The GOP has to get out there now making this prediction over and over - Obama and his minions now lack the credibility to refute it with more empty promises.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 05, 2013 09:40 AM (nnkXw)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 01:36 PM (IXrOn)
If he really starts to reach radioactive levels of unpopularity, it could happen. But only close to the end of his term, and you'd still have to drag the Demonrats kicking and screaming across the finish line.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:40 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 05, 2013 09:40 AM (UlI/7)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 09:40 AM (RZ8pf)
*Lie* back, and think of golfing.
Posted by: SCOAMF at November 05, 2013 09:40 AM (/fQzF)
Posted by: John Johnston, Vermont at November 05, 2013 09:40 AM (qRasw)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2013 09:40 AM (pHivF)
One month of 404Care disaster reports will do that.
Just wait until the rest of the country starts getting their cancellation notices.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 05, 2013 09:40 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 05, 2013 09:40 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at November 05, 2013 09:41 AM (epxV4)
No, like cornered animals they are going to get much more vicious and hateful, much crazier
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2013 09:41 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2013 01:39 PM (RD7QR)
While his fatass wife takes the moppets to Aspen and Vail and Spain for luxury vacations.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:41 AM (4df7R)
And then who, having lied about just about everything, also fails."
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Well, I think that just about sums it up.
Posted by: MTF at November 05, 2013 09:42 AM (B5y+v)
Posted by: dvd at November 05, 2013 09:42 AM (UpdGw)
Posted by: Thunderb at November 05, 2013 09:42 AM (zOTsN)
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And he's gotten what he wants: the Executive Mansion, the private jet, the security detail, the exclusive vacations, the private golf outings from one end of America to the other.
He's got them all, and that's all he's ever really wanted.
Public, Economy, and national security all be d*mned- he's livin' The Life.
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 05, 2013 09:42 AM (OtQXp)
I take great joy in watching them contort themselves between smacking his naughty hand while at the same time protecting their savior.
Journalistic acrobatics at it worst.
Posted by: dananjcon at November 05, 2013 09:42 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, puttin' a hit out on Pixy at November 05, 2013 09:43 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 09:43 AM (+cx5n)
15 percent blacks and 10 percent hardcore Marxists leaves 14%.
Posted by: fixerupper
4% homos. That leaves 10%.
Posted by: Dang at November 05, 2013 09:44 AM (Hx2XA)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 01:40 PM (RZ8pf)
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I gave up my tin foil hat.
I have a stainless steel colander and a leather chinstrap on order from Amazon.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2013 09:44 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 09:44 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 09:44 AM (zqvg6)
Yes, we can neuter him, his presidency and legacy, from doing more damage to the nation; but we will never get these 4 years back.
On our way to the American lost-decade.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 09:44 AM (jhI6f)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 05, 2013 09:44 AM (QF8uk)
15 percent blacks and 10 percent hardcore Marxists leaves 14%.
Posted by: fixerupper
4% homos. That leaves 10%.
Posted by: Dang at November 05, 2013 01:44 PM (Hx2XA) /i]
Percents do not work like that, I'm afraid. You may be black AND hardcore Marxist AND homosexual.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:44 AM (4df7R)
So Dear Leader is a failing failure who fails. Sort of like a SCOAMF, huh?
I still think he doesn't give a shit. He got the power now.
Posted by: Soona at November 05, 2013 09:45 AM (JvRFW)
Posted by: Onion at November 05, 2013 09:45 AM (IXrOn)
And a lot of Republicans sat at home rather than vote for McShitty or Romney.
But hey, we need a "moderate" to get out the vote.
Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 09:45 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 01:38 PM (IXrOn)
Apparently Kathy "used her discretion", as is her right under Obamacare.
"The Secretary of Health and Human Services shall....." and whatnot.
She's not elected - why should she care what the peasants think?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 05, 2013 09:45 AM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea
"Seriously." - Barack Obama
Posted by: Dang at November 05, 2013 09:45 AM (Hx2XA)
Posted by: Onion at November 05, 2013 09:45 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: toby928© at November 05, 2013 09:45 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 05, 2013 09:46 AM (QR7wx)
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 01:44 PM (zqvg6)
Forget just four more years. Does anyone think he's going to give up the Presidentin' lifestyle when he's out of office? He'll always be a FORMER President, and his lackeys will always be eager to give him tongue baths for being so AWESOME.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:46 AM (4df7R)
Our betters have been planning this for a looong time. Those 2800 pages of "pseudo-legislation" didn't actually get written during the same Congressional session that it was passed, nor did the tens of thousands of pages of "irreversible unappealable" regulations start getting written after the passage of Obamacare. They've been polishing this PoS since Hillary's initial attempt at making us slaves.
Posted by: Hrothgar Medicare and DMV Administraitor at November 05, 2013 09:46 AM (XdnQT)
Well, hopefully that means that it will last for a long, long time - God willing, through the next two elections.We have GOT to get enough people riled up and angry enough to vote as many of these weasels out of office - and replace them with strong conservatives - to be able to effect some real change.Otherwise, this "grand experiment' is doomed.
From your keyboard to God's IPad.
The one nice thing about this is, we don't have to do anything. All these cancellation notices are doing what we couldn't do, essentially delivering a personal, engraved notice of Failure of Socialism to mailboxes all over the fruited plain.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 05, 2013 09:46 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 09:46 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Sen. Harkin at November 05, 2013 09:46 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Jack Nine at November 05, 2013 09:46 AM (0h8aq)
Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 09:46 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 05, 2013 09:46 AM (hXDld)
Posted by: Dang at November 05, 2013 01:45 PM (Hx2XA)
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Arrrrrghghhhhh!!! New keyboard is in order. I should know better than to sip and read here.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2013 09:47 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 09:47 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 09:47 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at November 05, 2013 01:41 PM (4df7R)
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Exactly. My wife is (nominally) a Democrat and you've put your finger on the issue that makes her positively angry about TFG.
She kind of agrees with me on the risks of world war III from his presidency, is momentarily pissed off at the use of IRS, OSHA, EPA etc to go after political opponents, was mad about Benghazi and disgusted by Fast & Furious when these things were hot, but the family vacays while the rest of us suffer through the Obama Endless Summer Of Recovery well and truly makes her crazy.
The Obama's don't deserve to have any better life than the rest of us Americans, says she. Screw the Spain and Africa jaunts especially, says the wife, and the Marthas Vineyard bullshit.
Posted by: MTF at November 05, 2013 09:47 AM (B5y+v)
Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2013 09:47 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: O'Care Death Panel at November 05, 2013 09:48 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Thunderb at November 05, 2013 09:48 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: L, elle at November 05, 2013 09:48 AM (0xqKe)
AND $9.3 BILLION minimum loss on GM bailout.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2013 01:35 PM (pHivF)
I thought that was known as a failure just a few months after it finished. Not only for destroying the used car market by causing an increase in prices, but because the new car sales took a dive afterwards demonstrating that all it really did was make people who were going to buy a new car just move their timetable up a few months.
Posted by: buzzion at November 05, 2013 09:48 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at November 05, 2013 09:48 AM (YLZSZ)
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 09:48 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 09:48 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:48 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 09:49 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:49 AM (sByIH)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 09:49 AM (+9xNn)
Posted by: Emperof of Icecream at November 05, 2013 09:49 AM (ZMzpb)
Posted by: JJ Stone at November 05, 2013 09:49 AM (qVGaA)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 05, 2013 09:49 AM (71LDo)
I would love to know what percentage of "disapprove" are just upset they're not getting enough free shit.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is sick at November 05, 2013 09:49 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: i like anchors at November 05, 2013 09:49 AM (nBE5A)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 05, 2013 09:49 AM (e8kgV)
Get the fuck outta here. He's so charming and polite and reads so well.
I dont believe you. Its still BOOOOSH's fault
Posted by: The Left at November 05, 2013 09:49 AM (DVC2D)
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 09:50 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Barry The Special Snowflake at November 05, 2013 09:50 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at November 05, 2013 09:50 AM (j0wOO)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 05, 2013 09:50 AM (e8kgV)
Of course they do: they set an upper-bound in the way he calculated or a lower-bound in the case in which all three sets intersect fully -- ie. all gays are marxist blacks and the Obama supporter section occupies 15% of the population.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 09:50 AM (jhI6f)
Kathleen Sebelius
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 01:46 PM (zqvg6)
And far too many others "establishment rulers" on both sides also believe this, even if some of them are not dumb enough to say it in public!
Posted by: Hrothgar Medicare and DMV Administraitor at November 05, 2013 09:51 AM (XdnQT)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:51 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 05, 2013 09:51 AM (tmFlQ)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 05, 2013 09:52 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2013 09:52 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: SCOAMF at November 05, 2013 09:52 AM (QKYRm)
Posted by: Hrothgar Medicare and DMV Administraitor at November 05, 2013 01:46 PM (XdnQT)
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You're absolutely right. The dems have been slow-cooking this pot of shit for a couple of decades.
Posted by: Soona at November 05, 2013 09:52 AM (JvRFW)
Posted by: Naes1984 at November 05, 2013 09:52 AM (zeV2E)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 05, 2013 09:53 AM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:53 AM (sByIH)
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 09:53 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 05, 2013 09:53 AM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at November 05, 2013 09:53 AM (aTXUx)
Of course the media loves him -- he's a republican who fucked our last nominee over, is socially moderate and, according to the Romney vetters, has such problems in his past that it was stated if they were running against him him the primary, they would have slaughtered him.
He's the democrats favorite kind of Republican. If only impotent, we could call him McCain.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 09:53 AM (jhI6f)
Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 09:53 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 05, 2013 09:54 AM (e8kgV)
I've noticed a ~3 month what I term "soak time" from when something starts to break on blogs to when the general public consciousness starts registering it.
News junkies are months ahead of oblivioids. Most things never even make it into the oblivioid mind. This Obamacare thing is one of the exceptions
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 09:54 AM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: RWC at November 05, 2013 09:54 AM (fWAjv)
Michelle: You got your dishonesty on my shiftiness!
Barack: You got your shiftiness on my dishonesty!
Malaria: You got your incompetence on my dishonesty!
Sashay: You got your dishonesty on my incompetence!
Biden: You got your shiftiness on my incompetence!
Bo: You got your incompetence on my shiftiness!
Three Democrat traits that always go together!
Posted by: Reese's Obama Cups (Deluxe Version, only at Target!) at November 05, 2013 09:54 AM (+H/11)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 09:54 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, puttin' a hit out on Pixy at November 05, 2013 09:54 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 05, 2013 01:53 PM (PZ6/M)
They are changed daily to protect the hamsters from overload!
Posted by: Hrothgar Medicare and DMV Administraitor at November 05, 2013 09:54 AM (XdnQT)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:54 AM (sByIH)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 05, 2013 09:54 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 09:55 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 09:55 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 09:55 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2013 09:55 AM (aTXUx)
I was going to drink today out of despair (otherwise known as Tuesday).
Now I can drink in celebration!
After five years of funemployment, I find that staying inebriated is the only way to go through this particularly disturbing period of American history. To paraphrase R. Crumb, booze will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no booze.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 05, 2013 09:55 AM (0HooB)
Actually, it's probably a new low. Harry Enten pointed this out on Twitter: Gallup's polling methodology in the run-up to 2012 was wildly off in terms of its demographic sampling (remember how they had Romney way out ahead of Obama whilst everyone else correctly had him behind?), which means that they were oversampling demos unfriendly to Obama. That almost certainly means that those 38% marks Obama received in late 2011 from Gallup were inaccurate, and he was more likely in the low-to-mid 40s in the real world.
Gallup altered their methodology significantly in the aftermath of the 2012 elections, and in a way that empirically seems to have improved its accuracy (measured against other polls, at least). So I'd wager that this 39%, with a much more minority/youth-heavy sample than Gallup was using back in 2011, is actually the lowest point of his entire Presidency.
The More You Know!
Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 09:55 AM (n/+FT)
Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 09:55 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Max Entropy at November 05, 2013 09:55 AM (QKYRm)
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 09:55 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2013 09:55 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 05, 2013 01:54 PM (LSJmV)
Mainstream Fckuing Media.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:56 AM (4df7R)
I totally believe there is 39% approval. I have met many of these people. They have something innate that will not allow them to assign blame to that man.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2013 09:56 AM (nKUHR)
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Carney is going to lose it. He almost lost it yesterday.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2013 09:56 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, puttin' a hit out on Pixy at November 05, 2013 09:56 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 09:57 AM (md5rf)
Posted by: NeverEvermore at November 05, 2013 09:57 AM (dd5lM)
Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 01:53 PM
Chris Christie - John McCain's politics, Meghan McCain's physique
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2013 09:58 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is sick at November 05, 2013 01:49 PM (ZKzrr)
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I think you and a couple of other commenters are hitting it square on. The FSA was promised free shit. They ain't gettin' free shit.
All I can say is: Remember the 52%ers.
Posted by: Soona at November 05, 2013 09:58 AM (JvRFW)
IIRC, its Rasmussen in name only. Rasmussen, the warm ambulatory meat body, left the organization quite a while ago. This is just some outfit using his name.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 09:58 AM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 09:58 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: RWC at November 05, 2013 09:58 AM (fWAjv)
I've been as hard on Obama as anyone but in all fairness I have to give him credit for being.....
a shiftless, lazy, communist m'fer.
Posted by: LGoPs at November 05, 2013 09:58 AM (B59P/)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 05, 2013 09:58 AM (sByIH)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 09:59 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 05, 2013 09:59 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Richie Incognito at November 05, 2013 09:59 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Barack Obama Supporters at November 05, 2013 09:59 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 09:59 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 09:59 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2013 01:55 PM (aTXUx)
If it's reported at all, it will be reported as, "President Obama's favorability remains steady," because 1% isn't THAT big of a drop, right? Unlike in the unemployment numbers, when a drop of 0.2% is OMG FUCKING HUGE and the sign of a roaring economy.
They will NOT say, "An increasing majority of Americans have an unfavorable feeling toward President Obama."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:00 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:00 AM (sByIH)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 10:00 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 10:00 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2013 10:01 AM (pHivF)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 05, 2013 01:45 PM (PZ6/M)
Please.... she used her POWER under Obamacare legislation... not her RIGHT...
Governments, have no RIGHTs, they have powers and limitations, that the People give them.... Rights are given by God or Nature...
To elevate this Power, to a Right, is to give it WAY too much validity.
And yes... the language DOES matter... as this is the exact way we somehow allowed people to believe they have a RIGHT to Healthcare... and the Government has the RIGHT to do what it wishes...
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 05, 2013 10:01 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 05, 2013 10:01 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 01:53 PM
Chris Christie - John McCain's politics, Meghan McCain's physique
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2013 01:58 PM (aTXUx)
Meaghan has as much chance of finding a dick in her folds as Christie does.
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2013 10:01 AM (RD7QR)
"An increasing majority of Americans have an unfavorable feeling toward President Obama."
An increasing majority of Americans have an unfavorabe feeling toward their fellow Americans.
Posted by: LGoPs at November 05, 2013 10:02 AM (B59P/)
Hmm. Polls going down. [Dons tinfoil headgear] Maybe time for the crisis in Syria to heat up again? Perhaps a startling revelation of Assad's perfidy about getting rid of his chemical weapons stock? [Doffs tinfoil headgear]
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2013 01:55 PM (RD7QR)
O RLY?
http://tinyurl.com/m8hgaah
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 05, 2013 10:02 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Mark at November 05, 2013 10:02 AM (A68x6)
Misspelled. Because MWR NEVER uses the F bomb.
Posted by: RWC at November 05, 2013 01:58 PM (fWAjv)
!
I was just mimicking Countrysquire's usage. So nyah!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:03 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 10:03 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: NeverEvermore at November 05, 2013 10:03 AM (dd5lM)
Posted by: Prefrence Cascade at November 05, 2013 10:03 AM (op0uF)
They still have no ckufing clue how we arrived at this point and will thus rush straight out to vote for the next great hope.
I will mildly disagree. We've had one month of pretty much nothing but reports from the MFM on the failure of 404Care. This is so big, even they can't hide it.
Stupidity, if it can't be painful, should at least be expensive.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 05, 2013 10:04 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 05, 2013 10:04 AM (G9XX4)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 05, 2013 10:04 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at November 05, 2013 10:04 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Obama The Black Knight at November 05, 2013 10:04 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Mark at November 05, 2013 02:02 PM (A68x6)
But Obammy doesn't have a big enough dick to take it out of his pants and waggle it around during cabinet meetings.
"Mr. President, did you realize you have a piece of macaroni in your lap?"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:04 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 10:06 AM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 10:06 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 10:06 AM (0IDyD)
Obama would wag the dog...but he ate it.
*rimshot*
Posted by: Purp at November 05, 2013 02:06 PM (fZ2Zr)
*snort!*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:06 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 05, 2013 10:07 AM (G9XX4)
By the way, there will be more betrayal landing in mailboxes between now and New Year's Day.
Betrayal. Such a fine word, so fitting as the Legacy of Barack Obama.
Barack Obama. Betrayer.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 05, 2013 10:07 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 02:06 PM (IXrOn)
Ouch. Sucks for Green Bay.
Though if I'm right, isn't their schedule the next three weeks relatively easy? Pick up Matt Flynn again and they might even win a few of them.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:07 AM (4df7R)
....well, these things tend to happen.
Posted by: grognard at November 05, 2013 10:08 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Dang at November 05, 2013 01:44 PM (Hx2XA) /i]
Percents do not work like that, I'm afraid. You may be black AND hardcore Marxist AND homosexual.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at November 05, 2013 01:44 PM (4df7R)
Proven by the boy king himself
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 05, 2013 10:08 AM (nTgAI)
Maher, though he didn't seem to like it, finally concluded that Obama, who in his mind previously had an "almost sterling reputation for honesty," now faces the reality that "to a certain extent that ship (of his credibility) has sailed.
So even though he's concluding that perhaps the JEFe might have stretched the truth a bit on 404Care, this was like the first time he's done so.
The gulf between sides is soooo huge.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 05, 2013 10:08 AM (wNF3N)
Also the bulk of that 5% were eligible for insurance through state plans that were already in place prior to Ocare.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 05, 2013 10:08 AM (wrS2o)
Posted by: Jerec at November 05, 2013 02:08 PM (8HhF2)
You're thinking of EoJ.
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2013 10:08 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Mark
I think future Dem candidates at the federal level will be tagged with a variation of "Barack Hussein Obama" for years to come. Jimmy Carter and the shade of LBJ can breathe a sigh of relief.
Posted by: mrp at November 05, 2013 10:09 AM (HjPtV)
I personally made a promise to the people and I plan to keep that promise. I will be manning the Healthcare.gov care hotline and you can call me at 1-800 -332-2568. If you call now with your application , I will throw in a healthcare beachtowel absolutely free. Call Now.
Posted by: Obama the Sham Wow President at November 05, 2013 10:09 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: WH Press Corps at November 05, 2013 10:09 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2013 10:09 AM (pHivF)
Posted by: Naes1984 at November 05, 2013 10:10 AM (zeV2E)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2013 10:10 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 10:10 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 05, 2013 10:10 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 05, 2013 10:10 AM (659DL)
By the way, there will be more betrayal landing in mailboxes between now and New Year's Day.
It'll be landing in mailboxes every month at least till next October. Different insurances have different enrollment periods, and certain businesses are going to send out their cancellation notifications earlier than the drop dead date for the employer mandate. It's going to be a year-long blood bath.
It's going to hurt a LOT of people, and that doesn't make me happy one bit. But it's a pain that the majority of those people need to feel to wake them the fuck up.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:10 AM (4df7R)
Inauguration Day 2017 cannot come fast enough.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at November 05, 2013 10:11 AM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: WH Press Corps at November 05, 2013 02:09 PM (aTXUx)
You joke, but I guarantee you someone will ask him that very question. *facepalm*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:11 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Big Dumb Barack Obama Politics[/i] at November 05, 2013 10:11 AM (klzyR)
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 05, 2013 02:07 PM (G9XX4
There are reports of multiple eye injuries.
Posted by: polynikes at November 05, 2013 10:11 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 05, 2013 10:12 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 05, 2013 10:12 AM (dfYL9)
Also the bulk of that 5% were eligible for insurance through state plans that were already in place prior to Ocare.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 05, 2013 02:08 PM (wrS2o)
The real shift has not started yet... it comes when Businesses get THEIR bill for next year.
Remember, their plans must also follow the Obamacare rules... and will be cancelled, with the requisite increase in price to reinsure...
With there being NO incentive beyond employee loyalty to fund their Health Insurance... ie no employer mandate... there will be a LOT of folks who will loose their Employer funded health insurance, and thus thrown into the Private market.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 05, 2013 10:12 AM (lZBBB)
I will not use Obamacare if I lose my policy.
I have adjusted my W2 so I will not have a refund, so they can't get a fine from me.
Fuck 'em.
Posted by: trainer's looking for a Militia to join... at November 05, 2013 10:12 AM (n4ArD)
Posted by: wg at November 05, 2013 10:12 AM (VLwXP)
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 10:13 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 10:13 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Mayday at November 05, 2013 10:13 AM (eHc+1)
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 05, 2013 02:07 PM (G9XX4
There are reports of multiple eye injuries.
Posted by: polynikes at November 05, 2013 02:11 PM (m2CN7)
What did I tell you? WHAT DID I TELL YOU????
Posted by: Mothers everywhere at November 05, 2013 10:13 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 05, 2013 10:13 AM (/Crba)
236 Mr President, what are your thoughts on the crisis of bullying in the NFL?
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I'm glad you asked. I really identify with Richie Incognito. If I were a bully, I'd be just like him.
Posted by: BHO at November 05, 2013 10:13 AM (EGPJQ)
I concur.
Posted by: Van Jones at November 05, 2013 10:14 AM (h8FS0)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 05, 2013 10:14 AM (VtjlW)
Cockroaches, traffic jams, root canals, and lice all had higher approval than Congress.
If Obama falls much furthers, people are gonna start doing those kinda polls with him
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 10:14 AM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 10:15 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theater Fag at November 05, 2013 10:15 AM (md5rf)
Posted by: Voter who only criticizes Obama's white half at November 05, 2013 10:15 AM (W2qJe)
Posted by: BHO at November 05, 2013 02:13 PM (EGPJQ)
If Barack Obama had a white asshole, it would look like Richie Incognito.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:15 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 05, 2013 02:12 PM (dfYL9)
this is actually a very strange trend... where somehow the Left has silenced the Right...
When you do talk, if you can get through the inevitable screed of being called Racist, or Sexist... or some other ist.... you suddenly find that there are MANY out there who think like you...
And IMO, there would be more if the marketplace of ideas was actually someplace where people felt safe voicing their non left opinions.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 05, 2013 10:15 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at November 05, 2013 10:15 AM (yAor6)
Has anyone taken a look ahead and tried to figure out what the economy is going to be like after the mandate kicks in and NOBODY can afford to employ the 1/6th of the economy that is the healthcare system except for the govt. employees and the illegal immigrants that have unlimited Medicaid to pay for their needs???
Posted by: MrObvious at November 05, 2013 10:16 AM (Z5yt+)
Posted by: Fritz at November 05, 2013 10:16 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 05, 2013 10:16 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theater Fag at November 05, 2013 02:15 PM (md5rf)
What, without the I Can't Believe It's Not Butter?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:16 AM (4df7R)
It's going to hurt a LOT of people, and that doesn't make me happy one bit. But it's a pain that the majority of those people need to feel to wake them the fuck up.
In an extremely rare, nearly Biblical turn of events, I will remain relatively unaffected by this. It's a small consolation, granted, given my current economic situation. But I'll take it.
I do feel sorry for any Morons who are affected, especially anyone who's battling any disease, like Mrs. Vic and moki.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 05, 2013 10:17 AM (0HooB)
Unfortunately some very severe pain has to come in order for that inauguration to be someone other than Hillary or a worse socialist like Warren or Booker
Until at least 65 percent of Americans are feeling that severe pain, gay marriage, free shit, vagina maintenance, and legal pot will influence their decisions
Posted by: WH Press Corps at November 05, 2013 10:17 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 05, 2013 10:18 AM (SUKHu)
this is actually a very strange trend... where somehow the Left has silenced the Right...
Thsi is exactly what the preference cascade is meant to overcome. It's when lots of people who thought they were in the minority and held their tongue for fear of being ostracized (or worse) start to realize they AREN'T alone after all. The MFM will fight this preference cascade tooth and nail and try to call it something, ANYTHING other than what it is.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:18 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 10:19 AM (0IDyD)
It doesn't appear that Rush is going to back me up on Death Panels.
Oh well, he can't be expected to be right all the time.
Posted by: jwest at November 05, 2013 10:19 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 05, 2013 ...............Yes, but then only criminals will have icicles. Out of my cold hands!!!
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2013 10:19 AM (EnkwX)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 05, 2013 10:19 AM (vd7A8)
Posted by: mrp at November 05, 2013 10:20 AM (HjPtV)
Damn. Does a man have to hang out here 24/7 to understand all the inside jokes?
Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 02:19 PM (0IDyD)
Yeah, I've been wondering about that...
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2013 10:20 AM (RD7QR)
That's where he's going to focus his main divert, distract, and divide tactics
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2013 10:20 AM (aTXUx)
Damn. Does a man have to hang out here 24/7 to understand all the inside jokes?
Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 02:19 PM (0IDyD)
The only inside information you need to know is that EOJ was a theater major. All other inside information is useless comparatively speaking.
Posted by: polynikes at November 05, 2013 10:21 AM (m2CN7)
The LIV don't remember that. Even I had to be reminded by you mentioning it.
This plunge is 99% Obamacare. People are getting a dose and they don't like it one bit
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 10:21 AM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 05, 2013 10:21 AM (G9XX4)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 05, 2013 10:21 AM (4MIPA)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 05, 2013 02:18 PM (SUKHu)
Oh Good Lord.
Okay, at least that golf course that offered 9 Holes for $9.11 on 9/11 were TRYING to be respectful; they just didn't do it very well.
This? THIS? This is beyond the pale.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:21 AM (4df7R)
The GOP needs to already be out attacking Hillary's image (which has been cratering in the polls btw). Next to her the Dems really have no one. I don't think Warren has enough appeal to be elected against what should be a better crop of GOP candidates then we've seen in recent primaries, Booker's image took a hit in his underwhelming win against little backed Lonegan, and Biden just shouts a reason for O's sycophants who only voted in 2008 and 2012 to have a reason not to come out and vote. Historically, especially in the post-FDR/Truman era, the Country is wary of giving the WH back to a party who's had it for 2 terms. Since WWII only 1988 is the exception. There is reason to be optimistic about 2016.
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at November 05, 2013 10:21 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: elaine at November 05, 2013 10:22 AM (GNZ0/)
How long before he proclaims that his blue state victory in NJ is a "national mandate"?
Posted by: Marcus at November 05, 2013 10:22 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 10:22 AM (0IDyD)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 05, 2013 02:18 PM (SUKHu)
I bet their showers are something.
Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 10:22 AM (GQ8sn)
Damn. Does a man have to hang out here 24/7 to understand all the inside jokes? Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 02:19 PM
You have to be part of the AoS Illuminati. If we accept you as a member and you survive the initiation rites, you can join us for inside jokes, boobeh jokes, and lots of beer
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2013 10:23 AM (aTXUx)
Thanks for reminding me. I think that hurt his cred with some of the most fringe parts of his base.
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at November 05, 2013 10:23 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 05, 2013 10:23 AM (4MIPA)
262, 263 Damn. Does a man have to hang out here 24/7 to understand all the inside jokes?
Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 02:19 PM (0IDyD)
For me, it comes from this. In response to be reminded he was a theater major:
"Oh, yeah? I dare you to strip naked, slather I Can't Believe It's Not Butter all over your body, sit on my lap and say that to my face.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 26, 2013 11:37 AM (CJjw5) "
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:24 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 05, 2013 10:24 AM (LSJmV)
36% is a critical 2nd term average. GWB and Truman had 36.5% 2nd term averages.
If Obama breaks 36%, stick a fork in his ass. His political capital is zero at that point
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 10:25 AM (fZ2Zr)
The only thing that has hurt Obama is that the LIV realize that money is going to be taken directly from their pockets. You could have had twice as much assessed to doctors that then passed the charge on to the LIV and they wouldn't raise a peep.
LIV are some dumbasses.
Posted by: polynikes at November 05, 2013 10:25 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at November 05, 2013 02:21 PM
We had reason to be optimistic with a 21 point lead last Sunday too.
Posted by: Tampa Bay Bucs at November 05, 2013 10:25 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 05, 2013 10:26 AM (dfYL9)
Damn. Does a man have to hang out here 24/7 to understand all the inside jokes?
Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 02:19 PM (0IDyD)
Yeah, I've been wondering about that...
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2013 02:20 PM (RD7QR)
-----------------------------------------------------
If you don't know, just ask. The 'rons and 'ettes are known for their honest and serious answers. *cough*
Posted by: Soona at November 05, 2013 10:26 AM (JvRFW)
Posted by: Stirner at November 05, 2013 10:26 AM (l1p2K)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 10:26 AM (0IDyD)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 02:25 PM (DmNpO)
Nah, I'll hold out for the Super Ego post.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 05, 2013 10:26 AM (4df7R)
Has anyone taken a look ahead and tried to figure out what the economy is going to be like after the mandate kicks in and NOBODY can afford to employ the1/6th of the economy that is the healthcare system except for the govt. employees and the illegal immigrants that have unlimited Medicaid to pay for their needs???
Posted by: MrObvious
While that is beyond me as a former businessman I see economic consequences of this abomination being between severe and "how gawd-awful can it get?" It's poison.
Posted by: backhoe at November 05, 2013 10:26 AM (ULH4o)
‘Toons of the Day: “I Didn’t ‘Misspeak.’ You Misheard.”
http://tinyurl.com/nxtgejv
‘You can keep your health insurance, PERIOD.
All of you not named ‘PERIOD’ are on your own.’
Posted by: Predictable History at November 05, 2013 10:26 AM (ontxX)
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2013 10:27 AM (EnkwX)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 10:27 AM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 05, 2013 10:27 AM (G9XX4)
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 05, 2013 10:28 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Naes1984 at November 05, 2013 10:29 AM (zeV2E)
Posted by: JEM at November 05, 2013 10:29 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 05, 2013 10:30 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 05, 2013 10:31 AM (dfYL9)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 05, 2013 10:31 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 05, 2013 10:32 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: SCROTUS at November 05, 2013 10:33 AM (vHRtU)
Hey kbdabear! As long as POS Schiano is Coach the Bucs have nothing to be optimistic about
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at November 05, 2013 10:37 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: dirks strewn at November 05, 2013 10:37 AM (kfcYC)
Ras has been playing it safe after they screwed up 2012 (though they didn't do near as bad as some other pollsters did - Suffolk, Mason Dixon, Wenzel). They rely on a huge D electorate for their approval poll right now which is nuts considering when talking approvals you want to get a close to right # on the Nation as a whole, not a voting electorate.
Guys, let me add that 2014 is looking like a possible year where we officially see the double dip finally hit. Economists are warning us we've been holding off the inevitable. Obama should consider himself lucky it didn't hit last year. This party the Stock Market is having right now will lead to a horrible hangover (ie: crash)
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at November 05, 2013 10:41 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: dananjcon at November 05, 2013 01:42 PM (wmU4G)
Big difference between Reagan's Telflon and Obama's. Reagan's Telflon wasn't Telflon, it was his competence and essential goodness and love of country which was obvious to the nation despite the media lies. Obama's Telflon was created and reinforced by the MSM and has protected Teh One from the consequences of his pitiful incompetence up until now. Unfortunately, it hasn't protected us.
Posted by: Donna V at November 05, 2013 10:42 AM (u0lmX)
Posted by: The Finger Wave at November 05, 2013 10:43 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 05, 2013 10:48 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 05, 2013 10:50 AM (MhA4j)
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I know that thing was a failure. Among other things, it reduced the number of actual, perfectly serviceable used cars available. Have you seen the prices of used cars lately?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2013 11:11 AM (BDU/a)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 11:18 AM (23Kgq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 11:21 AM (23Kgq)
Posted by: toby928© at November 05, 2013 11:29 AM (QupBk)
I predict every vulnerable Dem in a non-gerrymandered seat will run AWAY from Obama and OCare.
They'll fail, and lose anyway, but they'll try to run away from being associated with him.
Yet he sticks like glue. Too bad.
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But you've got me!!!
Posted by: Barry O., ca. 2010 at November 05, 2013 11:34 AM (BDU/a)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 05, 2013 12:35 PM (vd7A8)
Posted by: The Virtuous Progressive 52% at November 05, 2013 12:42 PM (jfUIE)
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Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 05, 2013 09:30 AM (0HooB)