January 15, 2013
— Ace Mostly stuff he has the power to order unilaterally -- mostly.
Actions the president could take on his own are likely to include imposing new limits on guns imported from overseas, compelling federal agencies to improve sharing of mental health records and directing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to conduct research on gun violence, according to those briefed on the effort.
Unfortunately there is precedent, thanks to Bush 41, for that first measure (unilaterally imposing new limits on gun imports).
Meanwhile, two boys were suspended for playing cops 'n robbers at recess -- finger-guns, you know. They're banned.
And Rand Paul says we don't have a king -- or rather we shouldn't have one.
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Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2013 09:38 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: The MSM, Now Loving An Imperial Presidency at January 15, 2013 09:38 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: JohnTant at January 15, 2013 09:39 AM (tVWQB)
So we'll never get those M1 Garands back from South Korea?
Posted by: EC at January 15, 2013 09:39 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Phinn at January 15, 2013 09:39 AM (oFH2D)
BHO (the First) is trying to foment an actual rebellion. Martial law sure will make it easier to confiscate those pesky subjects' guns.
Resist open (violent) resistance, morons. Stay frosty.
Posted by: imp at January 15, 2013 09:40 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Timin203 at January 15, 2013 09:40 AM (5WxMt)
i mean haven't they already decided republicans or conservative thinkers are mentally deficient?
Posted by: ette at January 15, 2013 09:40 AM (nqBYe)
Let's go with Frank J. Flemmings idea of banning things that don't exist. I'll start.
Let's ban AT-AT Imperial Walkers. No hunter needs an Imperial Walker
Posted by: Ben at January 15, 2013 09:40 AM (C2Y4l)
So not only will the TSA creep squeeze your tits, he'll also have your last mammogram on his computer screen.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 15, 2013 09:40 AM (QKKT0)
What if I'm hunting shield generators?
Posted by: EC at January 15, 2013 09:40 AM (GQ8sn)
Because.....racist.
That's why.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 09:40 AM (sbV1u)
I kind of want to know from Gabe if it's OK for the far right to push for opposing this without negotiation, or if allowing some half measures is OK if it saves a Republican seat in a purple district.
Bears repeating for teh funneh.
Posted by: imp at January 15, 2013 09:40 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: wierd flunky at January 15, 2013 09:40 AM (X+nFp)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 09:41 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 15, 2013 09:41 AM (iO3BG)
we must play nice. don't fight it., It looks deranged to worry about govt restrictions or over-reach .
Posted by: ette at January 15, 2013 09:42 AM (nqBYe)
Ugh. Time after time, I've had a chance to buy an imported Saiga at my local store, but I kept finding a reason not to get it. Now that I won't be able to get it, I really really want it.
Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at January 15, 2013 09:42 AM (Rwrs+)
This would have sounded like tinfoil hat stuff to me five years ago. But this is the crowd that launched Fast and Furious and now can't seem to explain why.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 15, 2013 09:42 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 09:42 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: waldo at January 15, 2013 09:42 AM (H96hE)
Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2013 09:42 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 15, 2013 09:43 AM (qkP36)
Posted by: wierd flunky at January 15, 2013 09:43 AM (X+nFp)
Tyranny.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 01:41 PM (XkWWK)
so overnight you become a criminal to the 'state'
nice isn't it!?
Posted by: ette at January 15, 2013 09:43 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 15, 2013 09:43 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: HIPAA at January 15, 2013 01:38 PM
Just waitin' for the first lawsuit. Filed by the ACLU, of course.
Posted by: huerfano at January 15, 2013 09:43 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: waldo at January 15, 2013 09:43 AM (H96hE)
Oh hai!
Posted by: HIPAA at January 15, 2013 01:38 PM (GQ8sn)
And don't forget me! You want to know that Jimmy in your daughter's third grade class might be a nascent psychopath? Tough!
Posted by: FERPA at January 15, 2013 09:44 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: ette at January 15, 2013 01:40 PM (nqBYe)
Yeah, I've seen several "scientific publications" to that effect. Which is why I think the whole mental health aspect of this is going to be what really bites us in the ass. They're just get your doctor to say you're mentally unstable when you go in for your "free" yearly obamacare checkup and they ask you about guns, then you'll be forced to turn your guns over to the state.
It already happens.
Posted by: Timin203 at January 15, 2013 09:44 AM (5WxMt)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 09:44 AM (XkWWK)
There he goes again, gettin' all infringedy and shit.
"words........just words" - Obobo Adolf McStalin
Clearly that's what this Marxist, dog-eatin' nutjob thinks about our Constitution.
What part of "....shall not be infringed...." does this fucker not get. I guess he missed English class that day in the madrassa when they went over the definition of 'infringed'.
Fuck you, dogeater.
Posted by: TehAdmiral at January 15, 2013 09:44 AM (IxejE)
We realize that you are joking about that.
Are you writing a comedy?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2013 09:44 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: EC at January 15, 2013 01:40 PM (GQ8sn)
That's why we have Super StarDestroy.... oh wait. Thanks Obama!
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 75% more DOOM! at January 15, 2013 09:44 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: TC at January 15, 2013 09:44 AM (vYB+W)
Posted by: jj at January 15, 2013 09:44 AM (gWO5X)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 15, 2013 09:44 AM (/eBe8)
Posted by: wierd flunky at January 15, 2013 01:43 PM (X+nFp)
How about an EO that bans murder in any form? That'll take care of those evil reichwingers who try to justify gun ownership by saying that criminals will just use something ELSE to massacre innocents. They can't use a bomb or a knife or a baseball bat or a car if murder is banned! HAH!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 15, 2013 09:45 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 15, 2013 09:45 AM (qkP36)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 09:45 AM (XkWWK)
My brains aren't in my boobs.
Obviously others' mileage varies.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at January 15, 2013 09:45 AM (ZKzrr)
you weirdos.
toilet paper.
no-one should be held to that old rag. not leader, not military fighter, not citizen.
Posted by: ette at January 15, 2013 09:45 AM (nqBYe)
Gun owners are inherently violent due to a pre-existing mental disease or defect in 3....2...1....
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 09:46 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2013 09:46 AM (FcR7P)
doesn't congress control trade? i could have swore they did
Posted by: kj at January 15, 2013 09:46 AM (wmA7o)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 01:44 PM (XkWWK)
Way fewer then many here seem to expect. Maybe 10%?
Posted by: Timin203 at January 15, 2013 09:46 AM (5WxMt)
Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2013 09:46 AM (FcR7P)
If the President of the United States wants to fuck with import restrictions on foreign manufactured guns, that's fine with me. Let him do whatever he feels he can get away with.
If he wants order government agencies to share information so that some mentally unbalanced screwup is denied permission to buy a gun, I'm all for it. Publish the names of all the demented with and interactive map just so I know where they are.
Give him all the rope he wants, just as long as he doesn't step on people's rights to keep and bear arms.
Posted by: jwest at January 15, 2013 09:46 AM (ZDsRL)
Dammit.
There goes that fantasy...
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 09:47 AM (sbV1u)
We realize that you are joking about that.
Are you writing a comedy?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2013 01:44 PM (GsoHv)
JJ is such a jokester, isn't he CBD? He's always saying the funniest things. Everyday....always....nonstop jokester.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at January 15, 2013 09:47 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 15, 2013 09:47 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: BignJames at January 15, 2013 09:47 AM (HtUkt)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 15, 2013 09:47 AM (qkP36)
Overheard some kids talking yesterday. It sounded like the machine shops where they work are just cranking out as many lowers as they can. Must be getting contracts from outside Silicon Valley.
Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2013 01:42 PM (FcR7P)
I read an article on manufacturing robotics the other day (forgot where, or I'd post the link).
The gist of the article was that robotics will allow us to compete with pretty much any country as far as "production" goes.
The downside is that robotics won't create new jobs, to speak of, because of robots replacing people.
The upside is that we could buy a U.S. made knockoff of a Chinese knockoff at a lower price, better quality control.
hmmm....
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 15, 2013 09:47 AM (Qxe/p)
Just... you know, how you tell the story, what?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2013 09:47 AM (GsoHv)
Molon Labe Ogabe otherwise FYNQ.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 09:47 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 01:44 PM (XkWWK)
There's a thread in the LEO section at AR15.com that talks about this. Some cop starts a post asking why civvies are getting their panties in a knot because they're having trouble getting all sorts of exotic gear. This is in the LEO section. The other cops come in and give him a right, proper lesson in how wrong he is.
I get the feeling that the older, old-school cops are more knoweldgeable about the 2nd Amd than the younger, greener cops. The older ones are absolutely fine with law abiding civvies having whatever they want, while the younger ones want to play Sheriff Buford T Justice.
Posted by: EC at January 15, 2013 09:48 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Vic at January 15, 2013 09:48 AM (53z96)
Posted by: eman at January 15, 2013 09:48 AM (tBnjP)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 09:49 AM (9Bj8R)
Anybody ever shoot a sabot slug out of your smooth bore shotgun?
More or less accurate than a regular rifle slug out of a smooth bore?
Posted by: polynikes at January 15, 2013 09:49 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 15, 2013 09:49 AM (iO3BG)
Posted by: Guy who quotes from 300 at January 15, 2013 09:49 AM (WDCYi)
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at January 15, 2013 09:49 AM (L4CWX)
Posted by: ChampionCapua at January 15, 2013 09:49 AM (ZY+lZ)
Posted by: wierd flunky at January 15, 2013 09:49 AM (X+nFp)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2013 09:49 AM (XkWWK)
Local kids? Or are we paying for them to get there?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at January 15, 2013 09:49 AM (ZKzrr)
How many law enforcement and military personnel can we count on should the spaghetti hit the fan?
Assume zero and you won't be disappointed.
Our own Wyatt Earp excepted, natch.
Posted by: imp at January 15, 2013 09:49 AM (UaxA0)
Mental Health Records are kinda like College Transcripts, right?
Posted by: Jaws at January 15, 2013 09:49 AM (4I3Uo)
The Federal Government always exempts itself from its own laws. Did you know that Federal Government agencies are not subject to COBRA?
Yeah, there won't be an lawsuits. John "Taximus" Roberts will see to that.
No, if they "just" ban certain weapons, I expect a whole bunch of those weapons to be lost in tragic boating/hunting/mountain-climbing/sock puppet accidents. After all, there will be hope that those laws will be repealed.
If they start actively grabbing guns, look for blood to start flowing.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 15, 2013 09:50 AM (/eBe8)
I just got a stern talking-to for chasing the other kids around with a plastic sword.
Posted by: fb at January 15, 2013 09:50 AM (qnMOL)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur
If confiscation hasn't started, what exactly are you hoping they would do? Wear armbands?
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 15, 2013 09:51 AM (WLpmE)
Resist open (violent) resistance, morons. Stay frosty.
Posted by: imp at January 15, 2013 01:40 PM (UaxA0)
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You sound like Beck. What? This, once again, isn't the hill to die on? Why have the 2nd Amendment if we're not willing to apply it? If they come for my guns, you'll be hearing about it on the news.
And if you think if Dear Leader gets away with this that he'll stop there, then you're worthless as a protector of the US Constitution.
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2013 09:51 AM (h2OkT)
Joe Biden circa 2008:
“I guarantee you Barack Obama ain’t taking my shotguns, so don’t buy that malarkey. Don’t buy
that malarkey. They’re going to start peddling that to you. I got two, if he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem. I like that little over and under, you know? I’m not bad with it. So give me a break. Give me a break.”
Posted by: ette at January 15, 2013 09:51 AM (nqBYe)
Ban robots!
Like SCOAMF banned ATMs and ticket kiosks!
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at January 15, 2013 09:51 AM (ZKzrr)
Depends on your bore, and the quality of the Saboted Slug.
You can get a rifled slug bore.
That turns your "Elmer Fudd gun" into an otherworldy effective retirement negotiation expert out to 300 yards with proper sights.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 09:51 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 15, 2013 01:47 PM (9+ccr)
Considering how many secret service personnel the President of the United States has around himself at any given time to protect him from crazed assassins, doesn't it pose a clear and present danger to those children to have them in his proximity? God forbid something WERE to happen, they'd be in the line of fire!
"No worries. The Secret Service is highly skilled and well-trained to stop any violence before it gets out of hand."
And how will they do that?
"They'd shoot the perpetrator."
Thank you. You've answered my question.
So what you're saying is that children standing behind the President of the United States, easily one of the biggest targets for foreign or domestic assassins in the entire world, are safe than their compatriots in a school building because the President is protected by men and women who carry guns, and the children in the school are not.
Gotcha.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 15, 2013 09:52 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: waldo at January 15, 2013 09:52 AM (H96hE)
US manufacturing!
Overheard some kids talking yesterday. It sounded like the machine shops where they work are just cranking out as many lowers as they can. Must be getting contracts from outside Silicon Valley.
I was thinking the same thing. If this keeps up, I just might become unfunemployed.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 15, 2013 09:52 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 15, 2013 09:52 AM (ORGYc)
78 he going to surround himself with Children tomorrow during his big gunapooloza.
Local kids? Or are we paying for them to get there?
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They said on Fox...that it will be "Children who have written letters to him".
Posted by: wheatie at January 15, 2013 09:52 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: Cato at January 15, 2013 09:53 AM (DLxbD)
Posted by: sTevo at January 15, 2013 09:53 AM (YSd1Q)
Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2013 09:53 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 15, 2013 09:53 AM (qkP36)
What, no Mexicans?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 09:53 AM (UOM48)
"Read on Luccianne that he going to surround himself with Children tomorrow during his big gunapooloza. Disgusting piece of shit..."
SCFOAMT would stand on the Newtown kids' caskets if they weren't already in the ground. Excerable POS.
Posted by: Jaws at January 15, 2013 09:53 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Shtetl G at January 15, 2013 09:53 AM (L2eC5)
Posted by: Vic at January 15, 2013 01:48 PM (53z96)
Even if he does, it won't go anywhere. Dem's were constantly threatening to impeach Bush, but nothing ever came of it.
Posted by: Timin203 at January 15, 2013 09:54 AM (5WxMt)
Ay, ay, ay!!! Show them some side-boob and they do anything you want!
Just make them pay first.
Posted by: Colombian hooker at January 15, 2013 09:54 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 09:54 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 15, 2013 09:54 AM (GVxQo)
I think I have a good supply of guns and ammo in case of a restriction on future purchases but man I wish I had just gone ahead and pulled the trigger on a lot of purchases that I intented on doing piecemeal over a period of time.
The one that sticks in my craw was not purchasing the 10 .223 mags at the gun show in favor of purchasing a new golf club (driver) two weeks before the panic started.
Posted by: polynikes at January 15, 2013 09:54 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 15, 2013 01:50 PM (/eBe
If that happens, look for the 3rd and 4th Amendments to fall next.
Your fondness of the 10th Amendment is about to be tested soon, due to bills introduced in Wyoming and Texas.
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 15, 2013 09:54 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: waldo at January 15, 2013 09:54 AM (H96hE)
Wait until they take away your semiautomatic Puckle Gun and confiscate the square bullets for using on Moslems.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 15, 2013 09:55 AM (ORGYc)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 09:55 AM (UOM48)
Better yet, in hindsight, use school shots of the hundreds of yutes killed in the JEF's hometown of Chicago for the past 4 years and ask why, why why has Obama waited until Newtown to even propose anything?
Posted by: eureka! at January 15, 2013 09:55 AM (HPRku)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 15, 2013 09:55 AM (qkP36)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 15, 2013 09:55 AM (wbmaj)
"(2) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS- There are authorized to be appropriated for grants under paragraph (1), which may be appropriated from the Violent Crime Reduction Trust Fund established by section 1115 of title 31, United States Code, a total of $200,000,000 for fiscal year 1994 and all fiscal years thereafter."
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 15, 2013 09:55 AM (pUq3z)
Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2013 09:55 AM (FcR7P)
Anybody ever shoot a sabot slug out of your smooth bore shotgun?
More or less accurate than a regular rifle slug out of a smooth bore? Posted by: polynikes
The accuracy can be nearly as good on a proper set-up (good shottie, good slugs), but the drop is precipitous.
That's an ounce of lead. It falls feet. With a 100 yard zero, most slugs will fall off 18 inches by 200 yards.
Posted by: imp at January 15, 2013 09:56 AM (UaxA0)
Your fondness of the 10th Amendment is about to be tested soon, due to bills introduced in Wyoming and Texas.
Don't forget the 5th and 6th. Or the 14th (which has already been made into a mockery), for that matter.
To which bills are you referring?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 15, 2013 09:56 AM (/eBe8)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 15, 2013 01:42 PM (QKKT0)
I actually said something similar today. I've never understood the people who build bunkers and think the government is actively targeting its citizens...
Now, those people look prescient.
Posted by: washington nearsider at January 15, 2013 09:56 AM (fwARV)
What if I'm hunting shield generators?
Posted by: EC at January 15, 2013 01:40 PM (GQ8sn)
Just a friendly tip. If you come out of lightspeed farther away from the system, you would not need to go shield generator hunting.
Posted by: Zombie Admiral Ozzel at January 15, 2013 09:56 AM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 15, 2013 09:57 AM (U3OzJ)
Yeah, that little dust-up at Ft. Hood was just a misunderstanding at work.
Commander-in-Chief my fucking ass.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 09:57 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 15, 2013 09:57 AM (/g5vp)
Obama hasn't proposed any anti-gun legislation in his first term, and has rarely mentioned the topic. This makes us wonder how long the NRA and the politicians who do its bidding can continue to pretend there's a wolf at the door before people look outside and discover that wolves are an endangered species. The answer, based on last week's annual NRA convention, is apparently forever.
Presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, the event's headliner, slammed Obama for "employing every imaginable ruse and ploy" to restrict gun rights (apparently, his ruses are so subtle as to be invisible to the naked eye) and warned that if the president wins a second term, he will finally launch the NRA's long-hyped attack on gunsyada yada
Posted by: ette at January 15, 2013 09:57 AM (nqBYe)
Someone should hold a press conference with the families of the 300+ Mexicans who were killed courtesy of Fast & Furious and demand to know why Holder and Obama aren't in jail.
Media orders immediate all-networks black-out.
Posted by: sans_sheriff at January 15, 2013 09:57 AM (OQHM+)
This, once again, isn't the hill to die on? Why have the 2nd Amendment if we're not willing to apply it? If they come for my guns, you'll be hearing about it on the news.
You misunderstand me Soona. Probably because you are thinking about whatever Beck said (I don't listen to any of them).
I'm simply advocating that we refrain from PREEMPTIVE strikes, that's all.
Posted by: imp at January 15, 2013 09:58 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 09:58 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: #6 at January 15, 2013 09:58 AM (KHo8t)
The government won't come for shotguns until they see pictures of "assault shotguns".
Gray-black colors, composite pistol grips, laser sight, led spot light, high capacity magazine... all the scary shit that they can't stand in rifles.
Posted by: jwest at January 15, 2013 09:58 AM (ZDsRL)
BHO said Newtown was the worst day of his Presidency.
So a local tragedy that has nothing to do with him is the worst day of HIS Presidency. Not the day four Americans were murdered in a foreign land because he couldn't be assed to get out of bed.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 15, 2013 09:58 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Barack XVI at January 15, 2013 09:58 AM (FcR7P)
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That is right, 20 dead kids trumps 300 dead Mexicans.
Posted by: sTevo at January 15, 2013 09:58 AM (xdYvJ)
"...and directing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to conduct research on gun violence, according to those briefed on the effort."
Gun violence is a disease?
Posted by: yinzer at January 15, 2013 09:59 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: Bigby's Torn Cuticle at January 15, 2013 09:59 AM (3ZtZW)
What? This, once again, isn't the hill to die on? Why have the 2nd Amendment if we're not willing to apply it? If they come for my guns, you'll be hearing about it on the news.
Careful with saying stuff like that. Could be enough to get you SWATted.
tinyurl.com/c2dnp62
"Police say the suspected gun hoarder told neighbors he'd go down fighting in order to protect his collection of firearms. "
Posted by: Entropy at January 15, 2013 09:59 AM (TULs6)
Any federal agency that has mental health records likely isn't a covered entity anyway. (Take the CDC, it's not a covered entity that I know of.) Those that are (like the VA) will likely find some way around this (likely leveraging treatment clauses in HIPPA.)
Plus don't forget the "danger to self or other" standard, a lot of this will rely on that.
Not much to this, hopefully this all the farther this shit goes. He's done his show now we'll move on to other shit (I know, I know, always the optimist.)
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 15, 2013 09:59 AM (Y0nDU)
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 15, 2013 09:59 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: wiserbud at January 15, 2013 09:59 AM (gCa4h)
So there's that. Our tax dollars hard at work, keeping her flush.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 10:00 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 15, 2013 10:00 AM (wbmaj)
Look at the positive side....
It's the first time in his entire life he's ever been more concerned about the welfare of Americans than foreigners.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 10:00 AM (sbV1u)
Like SCOAMF banned ATMs and ticket kiosks!
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity
Ban sexbots NOW!!!
Posted by: screeching radical feminist!!!11!! at January 15, 2013 10:00 AM (ORGYc)
Posted by: yinzer at January 15, 2013 01:59 PM
Didn't you get the memo? We think everything is a disease. It gives us cool power we wouldn't have otherwise.
Posted by: Public Health Officials at January 15, 2013 10:00 AM (Y0nDU)
Better yet, in hindsight, use school shots of the hundreds of yutes killed in the JEF's hometown of Chicago for the past 4 years and ask why, why why has Obama waited until Newtown to even propose anything?
Posted by: eureka! at January 15, 2013 01:55 PM (HPRku)
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Wouldn't work. They want us to do that. It would just add gasoline onto the fire with all the dead bodies from guns.
I'm thinking of a large composite portrait of all the people that guns have saved. Make it a national effort. Then hang it up in the US Capital.
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2013 10:01 AM (h2OkT)
Posted by: Hard Right at January 15, 2013 10:01 AM (uhftQ)
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 15, 2013 10:01 AM (yDr5/)
Posted by: Gabe "Giffords" Malor at January 15, 2013 10:01 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 15, 2013 10:01 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 15, 2013 10:01 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2013 10:01 AM (7Nq2G)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur
The proportion of cops willing to become Stasi will be inverse to the size of the locale. Small town cops/sherriffs will likely not. Large city forces probably will.
That said, is there another profession that has a higher number of gun enthusiasts, higher number of NRA members?
I'm having difficulty coming up with one.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 15, 2013 10:02 AM (WLpmE)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 10:02 AM (9Bj8R)
>>>>Giving access of your computrized medical records to the government
Already going on, mostly because of no specific laws against that. Government also holds the attitude that they supercede HIPAA in some ways.
Posted by: Bigby's Torn Cuticle at January 15, 2013 10:02 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2013 10:02 AM (FcR7P)
If that happens, look for the 3rd and 4th Amendments to fall next.
You're just a bit behind the legal times. The 4thA has already been gutted. Police DUI roadblocks are illegal as all get-out (no probable cause, presuption of guilt), but are "legal."
We are living in a post-Constitutional time, otherwise known as "interesting times." The best way to make it irrelevant is to deny its plain language and meaning, if you're a Prog/Com Lefty.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 15, 2013 10:02 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: Warden at January 15, 2013 10:02 AM (0DlnM)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 15, 2013 10:02 AM (T0NGe)
Is is full of hawt conservative women?
'Cause I'd volunteer for that.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 10:03 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 10:03 AM (9Bj8R)
That said, is there another profession that has a higher number of gun enthusiasts, higher number of NRA members?
Obama ain't taking THEIR guns, why wouldn't they become his hit squad?
Posted by: imp at January 15, 2013 10:03 AM (UaxA0)
>>>Meanwhile, two boys were suspended for playing cops 'n robbers at recess -- finger-guns, you know. They're banned.
Gang hand signs. 30th St Wingnuts
Posted by: Bigby's Torn Cuticle at January 15, 2013 10:03 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 15, 2013 01:53 PM (qkP36)
I guess I should have just asked whether anyone has ever shot a sabot slug out of a smooth bore since it is made to be used in a rifled barrel only. Which actually makes the shot gun no longer a shot gun.
Posted by: polynikes at January 15, 2013 10:03 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 15, 2013 10:03 AM (/g5vp)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 15, 2013 10:03 AM (wbmaj)
I actually said something similar today. I've never understood the people who build bunkers and think the government is actively targeting its citizens...
Now, those people look prescient.
It would be freaking hillarious. "Cops!" *thump*. *thump* *thump*.
*thump*thump*thump*. "Try the window!" *thump*thump*.
Silence...
"Can I help you officer?"
"Open the door!"
OK, right after I put my dog in the cage and eat all the pot.
Posted by: Entropy at January 15, 2013 10:03 AM (TULs6)
A 'ban' on imports?
How are they going to enforce that?
They can't even keep illegals and drugs from coming into the country.
Posted by: wheatie at January 15, 2013 10:04 AM (fH4X9)
But TFG?
Posted by: AmishDude at January 15, 2013 02:02 PM (T0NGe)
Because the MFM says he's charismatic, and the mouthbreathers who elected the SCOAMT believe anything the MFM tells them.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 15, 2013 10:04 AM (4df7R)
oh he wrote legislation about his intent?
noway!
Posted by: ette at January 15, 2013 10:04 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 10:04 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Warden at January 15, 2013 10:04 AM (0DlnM)
Posted by: sTevo at January 15, 2013 10:04 AM (xdYvJ)
From what I've been seeing, pretty much any semi-auto centerfire weapon capable of using "high capacity" magazines has been flying off the shelves. I'd imagine that the Sub 2000 is no different.
Feel free to call around, but don't be terribly offended if they just laugh. Expect a wait if you order.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 15, 2013 10:04 AM (SY2Kh)
Racist!
No. They will be wearing "Nubian" shirts.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 10:04 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: GalosGann at January 15, 2013 10:05 AM (T3KlW)
More or less accurate than a regular rifle slug out of a smooth bore?
Posted by: polynikes at January 15, 2013 01:49 PM (m2CN7)
My cousin bought a Remington in 20 ga and told me it was rifled slug barrel and asked me to sight it in for him. Sabots landed all over the place. Upon inspection of the target i noticed a side hit. With the slide open (!) i felt the inside of the bore and determined it was in fact smooth. His dad did not believe me so then broke the barrel down so he could look inside. Smooth as my head! Sabots are not grooved so there is no spin on the projectile, it is not aerodynamically stable. Shoot round ball or rifled slug only.
Posted by: Cicedro Kid at January 15, 2013 10:05 AM (deKG5)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 15, 2013 01:56 PM (/eBe
Wyoming: http://tinyurl.com/bep4y9j
Some Texas (state) senator just announced a similar measure, but it's not introduced yet.
Actually, the amendments will begin to fall in "domino" order.
I can actually, under nightmarish scenarios, see Obama ordering the military to enter private residences to search and seize as needed.
Most of the "boys" in the Military today wouldn't even realize they were following illegal orders.
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 15, 2013 10:05 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Our little brown-shirted betters at January 15, 2013 10:05 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LiB advocate at January 15, 2013 10:05 AM (v07al)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 15, 2013 10:05 AM (/g5vp)
I made the mistake of mocking my boss down south when he was bragging about being able to hit a watermelon at 300 yards with his Overunder Rifled Bore Shotgun.
I got to eat crow they have come a LONG way with good shell loading and sights.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 10:06 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 15, 2013 02:03 PM (/g5vp)
Someone -- oh, say, and Congress critter - could stand up and say, "Um, doing all this EO shit is illegal, Mr. Preezy. I'd be completely justified if I were to call int he cops and have you paraded out of the White House in handcuffs."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 15, 2013 10:06 AM (4df7R)
Bad and boring speaking voice.
Contempt for almost all Americans.
Zero sense of humor.
No non-political talents, like jokes or piano playing.
Terrible fashion sense.
Big ears.
No sex appeal.
Big mole on his face.
Mean streak a mile wide.
Really uneducated in most areas.
When I see how AFRAID people are of him, at least those in DC, it really makes me wonder.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 15, 2013 10:06 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: maddogg at January 15, 2013 10:06 AM (OlN4e)
and commerce can't so far as i have ever read in precedent make something already legal illegal ex post facto....
no if Ogabe can magic it into some vague permutation that makes it a 'tax.'
Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 10:07 AM (LRFds)
I think because that female DOD policewoman ran out of bullets? ( oh and that is no knock on her- she was a hero )Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 10:07 AM (9Bj8R)
173 Someone please tell me why Maj. Hasan is still breathing?
I look after my peeps.
It is those who blaspheme the prophet that will not be tolerated.
Posted by: Barqy Al Clusterfuq at January 15, 2013 10:07 AM (fH4X9)
Michelle Malkin freed poppin' Fresh to rise.
Ed is part of what is wrong with the GOP.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 10:08 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2013 10:08 AM (GFM2b)
Out of all the major players in the GOP right now, I'd like to see Rand be our next nominee. He won't win, but neither will any other. He's the best we have to articulate the traditional/conservative message.
That's pretty much the only concievable way the GOP ever gets my vote again.
Posted by: Entropy at January 15, 2013 10:08 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: Entropy at January 15, 2013 01:59 PM (TULs6)
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I'm fighting for my Constitutional right to bear arms presently with my words. It's all I'm using at this moment. If this shit keeps up, we'll be running out of words. The regime and their minions in congress want complete control over you and me. Time is almost up.
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2013 10:09 AM (h2OkT)
Posted by: Jean at January 15, 2013 10:09 AM (IyKYr)
Posted by: wiserbud at January 15, 2013 01:59 PM (gCa4h)
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They will all have a name placard of one the people who were killed at Newton. They have spares in case some go sick.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 10:09 AM (QidfK)
When I see how AFRAID people are of him, at least those in DC, it really makes me wonder
It's the race thing pure and simple. obama is a sniveling, petulant, narcissistic,metro-sexual,incompetent,putrid little panty waist....
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 15, 2013 10:09 AM (9+ccr)
Contempt for almost all Americans.
Zero sense of humor.
No non-political talents, like jokes or piano playing.
Terrible fashion sense.
Big ears.
No sex appeal.
Big mole on his face.
Mean streak a mile wide.
Really uneducated in most areas.
Lazy as shit.
On the down low.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at January 15, 2013 10:09 AM (ZKzrr)
Do not taunt the happy fun old/white/rich/male/armed-to-the-fucking-teeth demographic.
XXX
HAHAHAHA!
All we have to do is use the State Controlled Media to call you "racist" and you're toast!
Posted by: Libtards Everywhere at January 15, 2013 10:10 AM (z63Tr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 10:10 AM (9Bj8R)
187 So what's the difference twixt us and Zimbabwe now?
Zimbabwe doesn't have a Weather Channel that now gives names to every storm.
Posted by: wheatie at January 15, 2013 10:10 AM (fH4X9)
The most efficient mass murderer in history has been the State – of the totalitarian variety – not any individual.
Individuals kill dozens. The Totalitarian State kills millions.
And the common denominator that identifies these ‘mass murderers’ intent is the disarming of their populations.
Posted by: LGoPs at January 15, 2013 10:10 AM (4x8W0)
Posted by: maddogg at January 15, 2013 10:11 AM (OlN4e)
you weirdos.
toilet paper.
no-one should be held to that old rag. not leader, not military fighter, not citizen.
No Constitution?
Cool! We revert to the Articles of Confederation!
No Imperial President, no butt-licker Congress, no constitutionally-dyslexic Supreme Court, no federal government at all, pretty much. Just the States and the people.
Let's party like it's 1786!
Posted by: filbert at January 15, 2013 10:11 AM (NaNKB)
I only have something like 7 followers, and most of them are on Twitter to sell porn and/or pharmaceuticals.
But seriously, if these Executive Orders are all within Obama's pre-existing authority, then WHY HAS OBAMA DONE NOTHING UNTIL NOW, WHILE CHILDREN ARE BEING MURDERED, WHEN HE HAD THE POWER TO SAVE THEM ALL ALONG?
Posted by: Phinn at January 15, 2013 10:11 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 10:11 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 15, 2013 10:11 AM (VtjlW)
welcome aboard....
no seriously I finally caved and went and got help for 10 years of being abused.
I'm pretty sure I'm fucked my records are in the federal databank.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 10:11 AM (LRFds)
187So what's the difference twixt us and Zimbabwe now?
Zimbabwe doesn't have a Weather Channel that nowgives names to every storm.
Posted by: wheatie at January 15, 2013 02:10 PM (fH4X9)
I know what you mean wheatie. When I first heard that silliness I got up and told my daughter I was going to go take leak Rudolph.
Posted by: maddogg at January 15, 2013 10:12 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2013 10:12 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at January 15, 2013 10:13 AM (KCvsd)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 15, 2013 10:13 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 10:14 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 15, 2013 10:14 AM (Jcd0S)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at January 15, 2013 02:13 PM (KCvsd)
and dinner silverware.
Posted by: ette at January 15, 2013 10:15 AM (nqBYe)
>>> this is when I start thinking he's the Anti-Christ
Nope. Prophet of the One Coming After
/shivers
Posted by: Bigby's Moistened Finger at January 15, 2013 10:16 AM (3ZtZW)
Damn straight, Cracker... all you white boys are still hanging on to your guns a bibles - and I'm going after the bibles next.
Beein' preezy ain't real easy
Jam out to this tune, like Reggie and I do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU
Posted by: Choomer in Chief at January 15, 2013 10:16 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: maddogg at January 15, 2013 10:16 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 15, 2013 10:16 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Obamaboro, Vt and Proud of it !!!!!!!!!! at January 15, 2013 10:17 AM (48wze)
I think the most absurd part of this whole thing...
the 2nd Amendment is there so the people can protect themselves against a Government out of control... one which will ignore the Rule of Law, and the Rights of the People...
Obama... is attacking the Right of the people to be Armed...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 15, 2013 10:17 AM (lZBBB)
207 OT Just indicated interest in a temporary technical job in MD. Might be moving closer to the beast.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 02:11 PM (QidfK)
Where at in MD?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 10:18 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 15, 2013 10:18 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Socialists at January 15, 2013 10:19 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 15, 2013 10:19 AM (GVxQo)
BHO said Newtown was the worst day of his Presidency.
Yeah, that little dust-up at Ft. Hood was just a misunderstanding at work.
Commander-in-Chief my fucking ass.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 01:57 PM (UOM4
He wasn't sad about that. At all. He didn't even let it interrupt his shout-out.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 15, 2013 10:19 AM (xxG50)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at January 15, 2013 10:19 AM (KCvsd)
Someone please tell me why Maj. Hasan is still breathing?
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Only the goo-ood
Only the goo-ood die young
Posted by: Billy Joel at January 15, 2013 10:20 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: maddogg at January 15, 2013 02:11 PM (OlN4e)
Note... that many many towns had a REAL Artillery piece in the Town Square... belonging to the town itself in the days of the Founders...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 15, 2013 10:20 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 02:14 PM (e0xKF)
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They would be more than welcome to re-open their businesses here in OK. Plenty of investors with oil money and friendly local banks. Plus, low taxes, possibly being no taxes.
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2013 10:20 AM (h2OkT)
Posted by: Billy Joel at January 15, 2013 02:20 PM (SO2Q
Because he was able to derail his Trial, by growing a Beard....
/facepalm
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 15, 2013 10:21 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 15, 2013 02:19 PM (GVxQo)
Am not!! Well, no worse than the rest of you morons.
Posted by: DC in Towson at January 15, 2013 10:22 AM (P47hr)
I know how nuts the folk are, spent six months at Ft. Meade going to a school. Mainly they are nuts because of how they drive.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 10:22 AM (QidfK)
>>The locals will NOT risk social ostracism --- or their lives.
"It's not your fault Giorgio is a half-wit. Do you really want to get killed for a half-wit?"
Posted by: Guy who quotes from Last Man Standing at January 15, 2013 10:22 AM (WDCYi)
Posted by: we are so screwed, deliver us oh SMOD at January 15, 2013 10:22 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 15, 2013 10:24 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at January 15, 2013 10:24 AM (t9x3Y)
239 The place listed in the announcement is Laurel, MD Which is halfway between Baltimore and DC.
I know how nuts the folk are, spent six months at Ft. Meade going to a school. Mainly they are nuts because of how they drive.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 02:22 PM (QidfK)
Laurel is where the wife and I lived.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 10:24 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2013 10:24 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Timothy McVeigh at January 15, 2013 10:25 AM (1FLBb)
VT is also small, rural and lily white. though pointing that out will bring us close to treading onto the part of the gun violence debate we must never mention.
You mean the part where most gun control was introduced as a means of keeping weapons out of the hands of newly enfranchised minorities, and the coinciding proliferation of peace and order in their communities?
Posted by: Entropy at January 15, 2013 10:25 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: EROWMER at January 15, 2013 10:25 AM (kxlCQ)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shield
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at January 15, 2013 10:26 AM (L4CWX)
School?
DINFOS?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 10:27 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 10:29 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 10:30 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 15, 2013 10:30 AM (1FLBb)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 15, 2013 10:34 AM (673KB)
Cheese eater!
Now, just a warning, you opened the door here. Don't be surprised if some Moron inquires as to the exact type of "performance."
Jus' sayin'
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 10:35 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Daybrother at January 15, 2013 10:35 AM (+paCV)
Springfield armory pistols are manufactured in Croatia. Or at least mine was before I lost it in a freak flood.
Posted by: GMan at January 15, 2013 10:36 AM (sxq57)
Gray-black colors, composite pistol grips, laser sight, led spot light, high capacity magazine... all the scary shit that they can't stand in rifles.
Posted by: jwest at January 15, 2013 01:58 PM (ZDsRL)
Ahem.
Posted by: KelTec KSG, on DiFi's ban list at January 15, 2013 10:36 AM (pqkoL)
I saw the future of the Army electronic techs at Meade. Being taught by computer. Which I guess is an improvement over what I saw when using the GSQ-120; all the dials had color zones, if a reading was outside the color zone then the Army technician knew something was wrong.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 10:38 AM (QidfK)
I should invest in some scuba gear and see what's at the bottom of these lakes sometime. I think I'll have a freakin' arsenal by the time I'm done.
Posted by: EC at January 15, 2013 10:38 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 15, 2013 10:38 AM (1FLBb)
US companies like Colt, Springfield Armory, etc. in business.
Springfield armory pistols are manufactured in Croatia. Or at least mine was before I lost it in a freak flood.
Posted by: GMan at January 15, 2013 02:36 PM (sxq57)
SA's 1911s are all made in Brazil by Imbel, with varying levels of assembly and finish work here in the US, depending on how high up the scale you go.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 15, 2013 10:41 AM (pqkoL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 15, 2013 02:38 PM (QidfK)
Anna, were you a GLG-20? Did you ever take the Foreign Service Entrance exam?
Posted by: EC at January 15, 2013 10:41 AM (GQ8sn)
Mouth-breather.
Please, get it right. I have standards.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2013 10:44 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 15, 2013 10:48 AM (qkP36)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 15, 2013 10:48 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 15, 2013 10:50 AM (qkP36)
I respectfully would posit that a higher portion of the SOCOM guys I've met would be the ones who would leave at once than the average line dawg.
I am also not in the habit of blowing sunshine about the numbers.
We will get 15-20 possibly 25% of the force that leaves at once.
About a third of those left will be reachable.
Texans will largely leave in big numbers, I know that while I was in I would have left with the Texans if it ever came to that.
We were surveyed twice on whether or not we would disarm US citizens.
I answered "no."
Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 10:52 AM (LRFds)
You've made that thought into some type of declaritive retort such as "oh well, it's legal, so what can you do".
Well, since the time of Plato nobody's challenged that Executive behavior. Are you crazy?
You know. HE did it, so it must be legal and Constitutional.
It's the surrender monkey song.
EO's have been the subject of discussion and consternation since the beginning. They've never been challenged in a meaningful way.
That being said, I would sue Obama's ass over what's being considered. And win. In fact, I wanted someone to sue Bush.
Posted by: Marcus at January 15, 2013 10:54 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 15, 2013 10:56 AM (qkP36)
Posted by: speedster1 at January 15, 2013 10:58 AM (yeM7r)
It was asked by the Bush the elder DoD.
I do not think it had been asked prior if memory serves, DoD was so impressed by the number they were silent.
It was ~27% at the time.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 10:59 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 15, 2013 11:01 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at January 15, 2013 11:11 AM (ANgxU)
Posted by: sexypig at January 15, 2013 11:33 AM (dZQh7)
Posted by: wingnut at January 15, 2013 11:34 AM (36Nbs)
Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at January 15, 2013 12:03 PM (XvHmy)
5b.9
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section authorizing disclosures of records without consent, no disclosure of a record will be made without the consent of the subject individual.
<snip>
(b) Disclosures without the consent of the subject individual. The disclosures listed in this paragraph may be made without the consent of the subject individual. Such disclosures are:
(7) To another government agency or to an instrumentality of any governmental jurisdiction within or under the control of the United States for a civil or criminal law enforcement activity if the activity is authorized by law
linky: http://tinyurl.com/9w988yg
Posted by: speedster1 at January 15, 2013 12:07 PM (v40Bj)
Maybe one more try?
Okay, re HIPAA/privacy, here's the relevant section:
5b.9
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section authorizing disclosures of records without consent, no disclosure of a record will be made without the consent of the subject individual.
<snip>
(b) Disclosures without the consent of the subject individual. The disclosures listed in this paragraph may be made without the consent of the subject individual. Such disclosures are:
(7) To another government agency or to an instrumentality of any governmental jurisdiction within or under the control of the United States for a civil or criminal law enforcement activity if the activity is authorized by law
linky: http://tinyurl.com/9w988yg
Posted by: speedster1 at January 15, 2013 12:08 PM (v40Bj)
Posted by: JohnKerryIsADoucheBag at January 15, 2013 02:39 PM (QTVh2)
Guess what is another of the 'reasons' your HIPPA-protected medical record can be given up?
'to protect the president'
No foolin'. I was shocked, Read it 3 or 4 times. It's in there. Now, who do you suppose put that in there?
Posted by: EROWMER at January 15, 2013 07:37 PM (kxlCQ)
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Posted by: King Barack I - Lion of Hyde Park, Keeper of the Holy Sites of Punahou and Harvard at January 15, 2013 09:38 AM (sbV1u)