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October 03, 2013

Obama: Too Many Americans Blame Both Parties for Shutdown
— Ace

It's bizarre -- so many Americans not in the media think that when two parties have an unresolvable disagreement, both share fault (or credit) for sticking to their guns to and refusing to negotiate.

Of course, in this case, only one side is refusing to negotiate.

Did you know this? In the days before the shutdown, Obama kept calling Boehner to reach out to him.... to tell him he wouldn't negotiate.

President Barack Obama repeatedly complained on Thursday that the public took a skeptical attitude toward his decision to shutdown the government rather than agree to the GOPÂ’s Obamacare reform proposals.
According to the president, too many Americans believe Â“both sides are just squabblingÂ” and Â“neither side is behaving properly.Â”

All he does is complain. He's so femmy.

No Drama Obama, huh? Yeah.

Nick Gillespie of Reason answers Obama and his acolytes, starting with the headline:

There Are Those Who Say Lord Obama Has No Responsibility for Gov't Shutdown

Meanwhile, another show in the #ShutdownTheater National Revue has been closed -- by which I mean the Air Force/Navy game is back on.

Air Force will play Saturday at Navy as a $230,000 gift will cover the teamÂ’s expenses and avert a possible cancellation of the football rivalry game resulting from the government shutdown.
NavyÂ’s official website announced the news that the game would be played, saying approval was handed down from the Department of Defense to play the sold-out game.

Thanks to @RyanLGustafson

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Posted by: 14 year old girl at October 03, 2013 03:20 PM (6TB1Z)

2 Can't have these proles thinking I am the cause

Posted by: BHO at October 03, 2013 03:20 PM (D+lxs)

3 Damn. I mean, Obama is SUCH a drama queen.

Posted by: 14 year old girl at October 03, 2013 03:21 PM (6TB1Z)

4 I will uh not allow this...listen to Chris Matthews Listen to Chuck Tard....

it is the Teahadists....

//Ogabe I-Momjeans

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:21 PM (9jfyN)

5 President Barack Obama repeatedly complained on Thursday that the public took a skeptical attitude toward his decision to shutdown the government rather than agree to the GOPÂ’s Obamacare reform proposals. According to the president, too many Americans believe Â“both sides are just squabblingÂ” and Â“neither side is behaving properly.Â” BECAUSE I WONNNNNNN!!!!

Posted by: Foot Stomping Barry at October 03, 2013 03:21 PM (PLOz8)

6 on a more serious note....

he is not acting like a guy loving his polling

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:21 PM (9jfyN)

7 Wolverines!!

Posted by: Yip at October 03, 2013 03:22 PM (/jHWN)

Fuck that arrogant pissant!

That is all.

Posted by: CrotcheyOldJarhead at October 03, 2013 03:22 PM (k/Mc/)

9 America's Historic First Black Little Girl President

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 03, 2013 03:22 PM (8ZskC)

10 I"d just like to say that it's not my fault for the misfire on #1. The Tea Party is responsible.

Posted by: pep at October 03, 2013 03:22 PM (6TB1Z)

11 6 on a more serious note.... he is not acting like a guy loving his polling Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 07:21 PM (9jfyN) That's why my gut tells me we are winning this issue.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:22 PM (WjLUf)

12 he is not acting like a guy loving his polling Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 07:21 PM (9jfyN) The whole of the leftist asswipes are in meltdown. This is not going how they planned.

Posted by: RWC at October 03, 2013 03:22 PM (LpbKr)

13 This is not going how they planned.

Planning is an awfully strong word when applied to lefties.

Posted by: pep at October 03, 2013 03:24 PM (6TB1Z)

The republicans need to come up with an end game / position. SOON.

What are they / we willing to settle for?

Removal of Obama care waivers?

Postponement of O Care?

How about the IRS Budget includes authorization of a special prosecutor and a budget for the investigation.

The BATF Budget includes a special prosecutor and ... ?

Posted by: rd at October 03, 2013 03:24 PM (D+lxs)

15 12 RWC,

You'll recall prior to his trying to break the Hastert/Pelosi/Gephardt/O'Neill rule and get Amigo Grande! part of me thought Boner was using "go limp" as a tactic....I still dream on occassion

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:24 PM (9jfyN)

16 Pay no attention to that man in the Oval Office!

Posted by: SCOAMF as the Wizard of Uh's at October 03, 2013 03:24 PM (20llX)

17 Cruz crumbles
By Jennifer Rubin

Posted by: with friends like these..... at October 03, 2013 03:24 PM (5ikDv)

18 SCOAMF is going to unilaterally raise the debt limit if the GOP stands fast. And that's your "fundamental transformation" right there. At that point, Boehner needs to get the troops to the White House and arrest the son of a bitch. Yeah, I know, I know. But seriously. At that point, the Constitution or what is left of it will vanish.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:24 PM (WjLUf)

19 It is clear that the more the Progs push their propaganda on Nick Gillespie, he is turning the screws ... and I think there are a lot of youngers that love 'em some Reason because that used to be a cool place for hip opinion.... critical of everything, especially on the mouth-breathing GOP.

The worm is turning. Discuss.

Posted by: Yip at October 03, 2013 03:25 PM (/jHWN)

20 I stopped in at my neighborhood bar, where a state senator was hosting an open bar.

He started babbling about "reaching across the aisle," and "reaching accommodations," and "trying to find common ground."

Fuck you.

All that means is that you have no convictions that are worth fighting for.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2013 03:25 PM (/kU/5)

21 This is the reason I quit Facebook. On my wife's Facebook my moonbat children are complaining that the Punbbies should be charged with treason.

Posted by: Trainer's looking for a Militia at October 03, 2013 03:25 PM (7EbAY)

22 So the "tea crazed shooter" turns out to be a black woman, 34, dental hygienist and mother from CT. They'd ask her what happened but she's refusing to speak. I of course don't have a problem with officers using deadly force if that's what had to be done, I just can't tell whether that had to be done. If this were LA or NY people would be screaming about police brutality. But if it happens in DC I guess the rules are different, shoot first to protect the political class.

Posted by: Andrew at October 03, 2013 03:25 PM (VjlMj)

23 No Drama Obama, huh? Yeah.

Only drama is obama

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 03:25 PM (d0Dmj)

24 11 JJ Sefton,

at best they are headed for a Pyrrhic victory I'd wager...

worst case for donkey they are about to get dickslapped by Dede Jenital Generation saying "Wut!?! I thought dis shit be free..."

Stay strong folks.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:25 PM (9jfyN)

25 13 This is not going how they planned. Planning is an awfully strong word when applied to lefties. Posted by: pep at October 03, 2013 07:24 PM (6TB1Z) They never really need to plan because the GOP always folds and runs away. This is something new and they do not know how to react. So the masks come off and they lash out.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:26 PM (WjLUf)

26 What a pussy boy.

Posted by: Chris Crocker at October 03, 2013 03:26 PM (QupBk)

27 The whole of the leftist asswipes are in meltdown. This is not going how they planned.

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.

Posted by: M Tyson at October 03, 2013 03:26 PM (hO9ad)

28 17 Cruz crumbles By Jennifer Rubin Posted by: with friends like these..... at October 03, 2013 07:24 PM (5ikDv) Please. Hollywood cunning runt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:27 PM (WjLUf)

29 So is it starting to look as if the Dems have stepped on their dicks with this shutdown business?

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2013 03:27 PM (8sCoq)

30 6 on a more serious note.... he is not acting like a guy loving his polling Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 07:21 PM (9jfyN) Maybe Reggie needs some new techniques....

Posted by: baldilocks at October 03, 2013 03:27 PM (Tnlh/)

31 27 The whole of the leftist asswipes are in meltdown. This is not going how they planned. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. Posted by: M Tyson at October 03, 2013 07:26 PM (hO9ad) Or have an ear bitten off...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:27 PM (WjLUf)

32 The company that provided the $230,000 gift will not be made public until legal issues are finalized. ***** Dang! I wonder what company it was?

Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2013 03:28 PM (r2PLg)

33 Precedent Odrama. What a fag.

Posted by: Dang at October 03, 2013 03:28 PM (Hx2XA)

34 re: the AF/Navy game quote:

"...a $230,000 gift will cover the teamÂ’s expenses..."

But I was informed that there was "a law" that prevented the use of gifts for purposes like allowing games to be played, or open spaces to be opened. I was told as much yesterday. Where is our inquisitive media to ask the guy, who works for one who regularly bends laws, who suggested that there's "a law"?

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at October 03, 2013 03:28 PM (XrGnJ)

35 I don't agree the GOP needs an end game. IMO, is SMOD time... and the SMOD would not back off. I say, keep 'em in an arm-bar until the fuckin' progs and media tap out.

Obama and his team wanna play, fine. Time to continue to stand and make them shit some leadership. And if Wall St hates it, fuck 'em.... they overwhelmingly foisted Obama on us in the first place and they got taken care of.

Posted by: Yip at October 03, 2013 03:28 PM (/jHWN)

36 Levin is calling for the most aggressive measures to combat the entrenched left and yet he seems to go about his life with none of the aggressiveness directed toward him from the left that you see exhibited against anyone one else on the right who stands up to them. Why do you think that is? Could it be that Levin's role in all of this is to lead the lemmings to the cliff? Hmm.

Posted by: pc at October 03, 2013 03:28 PM (zeWyX)

37 28 JJ Sefton,

Jen "Bili" Rubin

Lecter 3:16

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:28 PM (9jfyN)

38 Serious you guys.. no Unemployment Report tomorrow.. because Tea Party. What a fuckin joke.

Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 03, 2013 03:28 PM (DGGdk)

39 20 I stopped in at my neighborhood bar, where a state senator was hosting an open bar. ---------------- Erm... Beer hall Putsch?

Posted by: Saar at October 03, 2013 03:28 PM (wfsOV)

40 30 6 on a more serious note.... he is not acting like a guy loving his polling Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 07:21 PM (9jfyN) Maybe Reggie needs some new techniques.... Posted by: baldilocks at October 03, 2013 07:27 PM (Tnlh/) ********* LOL! omg--I almost choked on this ice.

Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2013 03:29 PM (r2PLg)

41 No plan survives contact with some old WW2 vets

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2013 03:29 PM (8sCoq)

42 King Barry I: ahem...ahem...Dammit! Look MFM minions. This falls on you. Now get out there and spread the lies for your lord and master. And you so called comedian douchebags too. Make all kinds of lame jokes blaming the Republicans

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2013 03:29 PM (TGA2G)

43 The republicans need to come up with an end game / position. SOON.

Why bother? They already passed CRs with defnunding Obamacare, and another with a one year individual mandate dalay. This ends whenever the Senate gets around to passing one of those.

If the Senate doesn't act, there's no good reason not to keep the government shut down until the elections in November.

Posted by: Methos at October 03, 2013 03:29 PM (hO9ad)

44 Those Army and Navy guys better not have guns on the sideline!!11!!

Posted by: That Arizona Principal at October 03, 2013 03:29 PM (Dwehj)

45 The narrative that the shutdown endangered the Army/Navy game is still out there and this concerns me, but not very much.

Posted by: SpongeBob ConcernedSaget at October 03, 2013 03:29 PM (kxSZr)

46 Obama's mental theme song:

Let me be your ruler
you can call me Queen "B"
And baby I'll rule I'll rule I'll rule I'll rule
Let me live that fantasy

Posted by: LizLem at October 03, 2013 03:29 PM (8wqqE)

47 Apologies for going O/T early.
Weasel Zippers has it that Abortion Barbie IS running for Texas Governor.
Run Wendy run!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 03:29 PM (d0Dmj)

48 the funny part of that poll: 4% blamed "the joos" j/k for those of you in Rio Linda

Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 03, 2013 03:29 PM (DGGdk)

49 30 Baldilocks,

"MOM why is Reggie Love using a walker again?"

//Sascha and Malia

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:29 PM (9jfyN)

50 Don't blame me. Blame your mouth for "not behaving properly."

Posted by: wooga at October 03, 2013 03:30 PM (ZNmVa)

51 Planning is an awfully strong word when applied to lefties.

Posted by: pep at October 03, 2013 07:24 PM (6TB1Z)

Statists dont take a dump, son, without a plan

Posted by: Red Shirt at October 03, 2013 03:30 PM (J3fGN)

52 SCOAMF is going to unilaterally raise the debt limit if the GOP stands fast.

gopherit. I wanna see just how far Obama can push this thing until he's finally gone too far. I want to know how far is too far.

Posted by: Let me guess at October 03, 2013 03:30 PM (cQnFm)

53 18 That would be a real red line.

Posted by: steevy at October 03, 2013 03:30 PM (9XBK2)

54 Nick Gillespie is yummy. Srsly, echoing rd, how is this going to end? Are we just going to cave and walk away with nothing like we always do?

Posted by: L, elle at October 03, 2013 03:30 PM (0PiQ4)

55 All that means is that you have no convictions that are worth fighting for. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2013 07:25 PM (/kU/5) Exactly.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 03, 2013 03:30 PM (GEICT)

56 I'm sure another speech will do the trick. I mean it's not like he is Shit Midas or anything.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 03, 2013 03:30 PM (VjL9S)

Ace:

Put the "Windy" Davis running for governor in Texas" thread up.....As a Texan, I'm ready to vent cause I can still smell the scent of cheap scotch from the last time we had a Dem governor in office!

Posted by: Cat at October 03, 2013 03:30 PM (W/n4s)

58 Air Force will play Saturday at Navy as a $230,000 gift will cover the teamÂ’s expenses and avert a possible cancellation of the football rivalry game resulting from the government shutdown. NavyÂ’s official website announced the news that the game would be played, saying approval was handed down from the Department of Defense to play the sold-out game. So if private dollars could be raised to fund a beloved football game, how about all those rich Celebuturds who support Obama and say they should pay more taxes, pony up the cash to kickstart their favorite social programs? Russell Simmons, Jay-Z and Bey could pay for the Obamaphones, Eva Longoria could donate the money the Feds usually kick in to Planned Parenthood. Al Gore could single handedly pay for the EPA. Madonna could fork over the cash for the NEA. Bill and Hill could fund Head Start. Shaq and LeBron could pay for all the midnight basketball programs across the country. Barbara Streisand, Bette Midler, and Cher could provide the monies f for the Department of Education. Oprah could front the bucks for Obamacare since she was so instrumental in saddling America with him.

Posted by: runningrn at October 03, 2013 03:31 PM (PLOz8)

59 Also from WZ:
Poll: More Americans Blame Obama Than Tea Party For Government ShutdownÂ…

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 03:31 PM (d0Dmj)

60 SCOAMF is going to unilaterally raise the debt limit if the GOP stands fast.

--

Yeah, Levin is really going down this path. I had to turn him off. My blood pressure goes to heart attack mode listening to all this. I want a divorce. There is no way to be united anymore.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 03, 2013 03:31 PM (XB5Ak)

61 Let me repeat, there are 13 year old girls who are getting their first period who are more emotionally stable than Dear Leader.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 03, 2013 03:31 PM (Gk3SS)

62 Fuck Jack Lew.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2013 03:31 PM (ZPrif)

63 Endgame: I seem to recall from an effective negotiations course that this is the point where you take a previous offer off the table.

Posted by: SpongeBob ConcernedSaget at October 03, 2013 03:31 PM (kxSZr)

My daughter is taking honors American Government and Economic System this fall. I asked her yesterday if her class was talking about the shutdown. She said, "OMG, yes, and everyone thinks Obama is just sitting on his ass and should just quit."

Obama may think he has fundamentally transformed America, but as yet he has not fundamentally transformed most Americans' expectations of what a President is supposed to do when different factions are squabbling: he's supposed to nut up and get it solved. Even a bunch of 16-year-olds know that. Obama is abdicating here and people are noticing.

Posted by: rockmom at October 03, 2013 03:31 PM (vE1mx)

6 on a more serious note....

he is not acting like a guy loving his polling
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 07:21 PM (9jfyN)

_______________________

Bitch

Posted by: Reggie Love at October 03, 2013 03:32 PM (jucos)

66 omg--I almost choked on this ice. Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2013 07:29 PM (r2PLg) Heh. Since everyone is into blame shifting lately, I blame you all for my dirty mind.

Posted by: baldilocks at October 03, 2013 03:32 PM (Tnlh/)

Posted by: pc at October 03, 2013 07:28 PM (zeWyX)

The left can only demonize so many people at a time. Their LIV consituents can only remember so many enemies of the people.

In 1984 there was only Emmanual Goldstein.

Posted by: rd at October 03, 2013 03:32 PM (D+lxs)

[Ace:] ...Of course, in this case, only one side is refusing to negotiate.

But...but...you're not supposed to negotiate with Terrorists.

That's why they keep calling the Republicans "terrorists".

Posted by: wheatie at October 03, 2013 03:32 PM (i+UaL)

69 Maybe someone will convince him he needs to shutdown the internet so people stop getting that 'wrong messages' I'm optimistically thinking that if he did do this it would wake up the "I just want to look at cute critter pics"--or pron folks and they would realize what a petty tyrant king Putt is. But I suppose folks would just hear on ABC and CNN 'bad tea party made the regime do this ' .... and the stupid party would cave.

Posted by: palerider at October 03, 2013 03:32 PM (dkExz)

70 52 SCOAMF is going to unilaterally raise the debt limit if the GOP stands fast. gopherit. I wanna see just how far Obama can push this thing until he's finally gone too far. I want to know how far is too far. Posted by: Let me guess at October 03, 2013 07:30 PM (cQnFm) If I were Speaker, I would have a few choice words for SCOAMF. The thing of it is, he has a glass jaw and cannot take any heat or criticism. "Mr. President, you are forbidden by the Constitution from unilaterally raising the debt limit. If you do so, you will push this nation towards civil war."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:32 PM (WjLUf)

71 61 AlexTheChick,

Why I thank God I have a 14YO son...

60 Lady in Black,

We'll take the debt for the Bush era and the flag and founding documents....

they don't like them anyway

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:33 PM (9jfyN)

72 on a more serious note....

he is not acting like a guy loving his polling

I read that as "pulling". I need new glasses.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 03:33 PM (d0Dmj)

73 reposted from the dead thread because I want to know if anyone else has heard of this: I have a new ObamaCare anecdote: an artist friend of ours posted on her facebook that she applied online for insurance through the exchange and, after much delay and entering data, it told her that she doesn't make enough money and perhaps she should take on a second job. WTF? She says that she tried twice with the same result.

Posted by: toby928© at October 03, 2013 03:33 PM (QupBk)

74 67 In 1984 there was only Emmanual Goldstein. Posted by: rd at October 03, 2013 07:32 PM (D+lxs) Try demonizing golden age Emmanuel Goldenberg. Edward G. Robinson!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:34 PM (WjLUf)

75 65 Reggie Love,

Ball gag, KY Jam, and angst aisle 65....

REGGIE!

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:34 PM (9jfyN)

76 On a more serious note: Chad Henderson is first in line for the inaugural season of the IPAB.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 03, 2013 03:34 PM (h7X/M)

77 I have a new ObamaCare anecdote: an artist friend of ours posted on her facebook that she applied online for insurance through the exchange and, after much delay and entering data, it told her that she doesn't make enough money and perhaps she should take on a second job. WTF? She says that she tried twice with the same result.

#priceless

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 03:35 PM (d0Dmj)

78 66 omg--I almost choked on this ice. Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2013 07:29 PM (r2PLg) Heh. Since everyone is into blame shifting lately, I blame you all for my dirty mind. Posted by: baldilocks at October 03, 2013 07:32 PM (Tnlh/) ******* Hey I learn something gross here at least once every two months or so.

Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2013 03:35 PM (r2PLg)

79 73 reposted from the dead thread because I want to know if anyone else has heard of this: I have a new ObamaCare anecdote: an artist friend of ours posted on her facebook that she applied online for insurance through the exchange and, after much delay and entering data, it told her that she doesn't make enough money and perhaps she should take on a second job. WTF? She says that she tried twice with the same result. Posted by: toby928Â© at October 03, 2013 07:33 PM (QupBk) After answering "yes" to the question "did you vote for Obama in '08 and '12?" you get a message that says: "You fucked up; you trusted us!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:35 PM (WjLUf)

80 76 Seamus Muldoon,

That's the "Dark Knight Returns" version of the hunger games right?

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:35 PM (9jfyN)

81 Dem politicos seem very confident they are winning. Repub politicos ... not so much. Both left-wing and right-wing activist types seem confident they are winning. Both can't be right.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2013 03:35 PM (ZPrif)

82 If the right is only hurting itself by pushing this, why is the Democrat/media/corporatist Republican establishment in full-on pants-shitting panic mode? It's almost like the combo of the train wreck ACA rollout and the GOP appearing to take a principled stand has them a little skeert.

Posted by: kartoffel at October 03, 2013 03:35 PM (oLCqQ)

Posted by: L, elle at October 03, 2013 07:30 PM (0PiQ4)

We need something!

End the Waivers for Congress.

Require independent prosecutors for the IRS and BATF.

Require O Care to report progress to Congress every 3 months through 2017.

Posted by: rd at October 03, 2013 03:35 PM (D+lxs)

84 It's pretty amazing that Obama has admitted that Ted Cruz is more powerful than he is and actually is the guy who determines the world economic structure. Not bad for a wacko bird.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 03, 2013 03:36 PM (g1DWB)

85 so...that whole urgent bombing Syria because WMDs was..what, a big whoopsie? /things that don't make The Dumb People go hmmm

Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 03, 2013 03:36 PM (DGGdk)

86 According to her, the program literally suggested that she get a second job... odd.

Posted by: toby928© at October 03, 2013 03:36 PM (QupBk)

87 60 I want a divorce. There is no way to be united anymore. Posted by: Lady in Black at October 03, 2013 07:31 PM (XB5Ak) I want a divorce like Ike Turner wanted to divorce Tina, IYKWIM.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:36 PM (WjLUf)

88 81 Flatbush Joe,

Oh Joe...I KNOW I am winning...always do.

//King Math

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:37 PM (9jfyN)

89 We need something!
End the Waivers for Congress.
Require independent prosecutors for the IRS and BATF.
Require O Care to report progress to Congress every 3 months through 2017.

No waivers.
(Except for religious institutions)

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 03:37 PM (d0Dmj)

90 33 Precedent Odrama. What a fag. Posted by: Dang at October 03, 2013 07:28 PM (Hx2XA) Wrong pal, I just smoke them!

Posted by: Barry Teh Pole Smoker at October 03, 2013 03:37 PM (PLOz8)

91 And that's your "fundamental transformation" right there. At that point, Boehner needs to get the troops to the White House and arrest the son of a bitch.
Yeah, I know, I know. But seriously. At that point, the Constitution or what is left of it will vanish.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 07:24 PM

Shoulda been done a long time ago. Some time in mid-2009 would have been about right.

Sad thing is that if someone showed enough courage to uphold the law, there would be a shortage of orange jumpsuits. We'd probably have to hand at least some over to Sheriff Joe, and put 'em in pink undies.

Probably not more than 650-700 requiring immediate incarceration.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 03, 2013 03:37 PM (kaGpp)

92 >after much delay and entering data, it told her that she doesn't make enough money and perhaps she should take on a second job.

I wonder what result I would get- I'm funderemployed at the moment

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2013 03:37 PM (8sCoq)

93 >>>Could it be that Levin's role in all of this is to lead the lemmings to the cliff? Hmm.

Are you that dense. The reason the left doesn't pillory Mark Levin is because he's a plant? Talk to the average LIV and they have no idea who Mark Levin even is. Why would the left do us the favor of making him more famous? They tried it with Rush in the 80s and it didn't work out well at all.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at October 03, 2013 03:38 PM (0q2P7)

94 Obama: Too Many Americans Blame Both Parties for Shutdown

Instead of blaming just the Republicans, I suppose?

We need to destroy the Media. The Media is what allows Schumer, Landieu, Reid and Pelosi to say and do whatever they wish to do with no consequences whatsoever.

Now, of course, the Media is going to be focusing fully on the Republican guy who called a CNN dim-babe "beautiful" and how awful all the Republicans are because of this.

Posted by: Null at October 03, 2013 03:38 PM (xjpRj)

95 86 According to her, the program literally suggested that she get a second job... odd. Posted by: toby928Â© at October 03, 2013 07:36 PM (QupBk) ********* That is weird. Would she qualify for Medicaid?

Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2013 03:38 PM (r2PLg)

96 Both left-wing and right-wing activist types seem confident they are winning. Both can't be right.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2013 07:35 PM (ZPrif)

Its Washington that has lost.... Both Parties CAN... and IMO should... loose on this.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 03, 2013 03:39 PM (lZBBB)

97 Can't believe I agree with that shithead. Too many blame BOTH parties when they should be blaming the party of "no negotiations".

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 03, 2013 03:39 PM (Zswg6)

98 Obama: I want a clean spending bill! Translation: My personal valets are missing and it's making me cranky.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 03, 2013 03:39 PM (yETln)

99 93 Mike the Moose,

and considering that Levin's BRAIN is three times more potent than Limbaugh's...

God help us if only Levin had been graced with a voice like Peter Thomas'.....

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:39 PM (9jfyN)

100 We may be killing two birds with one stone, the Barkster and his slobbering sycophants in the MBM. (If I can use that analogy without being too violent.)

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 03, 2013 03:40 PM (PjgvN)

101 Air Force will play Saturday at Navy as a $230,000 gift will cover the teamÂ’s expenses and avert a possible cancellation of the football rivalry game resulting from the government shutdown. *** Yet, when South Dakota offered to foot the bill and provide the staff to keep Mount Rushmore opened, they were denied.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 03, 2013 03:40 PM (DmNpO)

102 99 God help us if only Levin had been graced with a voice like Peter Thomas'..... Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 07:39 PM (9jfyN) Doesn't need it. He's wicked smart and LOUD. That's enough.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:40 PM (WjLUf)

103 Levin has a face for radio and a voice for print. It's amazing he's been so successful with his ear-grater voice. I like the guy, but can't stand to listen to him.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2013 03:40 PM (ZPrif)

104

69 Maybe someone will convince him he needs to shutdown the internet so people stop getting that 'wrong messages'...

He has the power to do this.

He gave it to himself...with an Executive Order...in the event of a 'crisis'.

As I recall, Gabe told us at the time, that we have nothing to fear from the president giving himself this new power.

Posted by: wheatie at October 03, 2013 03:41 PM (i+UaL)

105 Would she qualify for Medicaid? You would think so. Perhaps she owns to much property.

Posted by: toby928© at October 03, 2013 03:41 PM (QupBk)

106 52 SCOAMF is going to unilaterally raise the debt limit if the GOP stands fast.gopherit. I wanna see just how far Obama can push this thing until he's finally gone too far. I want to know how far is too far. Posted by: Let me guess at October 03, 2013 07:30 PM (cQnFm)

I'm not fully in the LIB camp, even if some days that seems the only way. But I DO have a perverse curiosity of how far he can go before even the LIV says enough. Rush thinks it will be something trivial, like making fun of a pop star, we'll see.

As far as the media is concerned, it would take him physically handing them blindfolds as they are lined up to be shot, and they would STILL be all "why are you breaking up with me???? What did I DOOO?" Idiots.

Posted by: LizLem at October 03, 2013 03:41 PM (8wqqE)

107 103 Levin has a face for radio and a voice for print. It's amazing he's been so successful with his ear-grater voice. I like the guy, but can't stand to listen to him. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2013 07:40 PM (ZPrif) I learned more from reading Levin than I ever learned in 16 odd years of schooling and after. And I LOVE his rage. I need a dose of him every day after hearing SCOAMF and the MFM.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:42 PM (WjLUf)

108
she applied online for insurance through the exchange and, after much delay and entering data, it told her that she doesn't make enough money and perhaps she should take on a second job.
Posted by: toby928

> or wear a dress and put on some make-up so you can land a man.
> you're not getting any younger you know

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 03, 2013 03:42 PM (kdS6q)

109 Maybe someone will convince him he needs to shutdown the internet so people stop getting that 'wrong messages'...

He has the power to do this.
He gave it to himself...with an Executive Order...in the event of a 'crisis'.

No online Call of Duty? War!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 03:42 PM (d0Dmj)

110 Jack "Asshole Commie" Lew went on Fox tonight as a PR move. He was hoping to push the narrative spreading in Washington that the Repubs are dominated by Cruz extremists and have no endgame. He tried to scare everyone about the possibility of a Republican caused default. Wall Street could care less: http://yhoo.it/1buKepr

Posted by: MTF at October 03, 2013 03:42 PM (qf2kI)

111 All the National Parks should be returned to the states. Problem solved.

Posted by: toby928© at October 03, 2013 03:42 PM (QupBk)

112 There there my little Barry. Stand strong for another 3 years and then you can choom to your hearts desire

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at October 03, 2013 03:42 PM (Pr6hk)

113 Was refusing to negotiate focus grouped? I give up trying to figure out the average American, but Obama sounds like LtCdr Morton in Mr Roberts.

Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2013 03:42 PM (sOtz/)

114 Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 07:35 PM (d0Dmj) What your artist friend and other moochez are going to find out is that this Obamacare thing has way over promised way too much to spoiled, entitled brats who expect the gubamint to take care of their every need at no cost to them. And boy, is there going to be Hell to pay when they find out they've been screwed, mark my words. The MFM pimped this crap sandwich like the greatest thing since sliced bread. Wait til these idiots try and take a bite and find the nasty filling that Harry, Nancy and Barry passed. Just wait!

Posted by: Barry Teh Pole Smoker at October 03, 2013 03:43 PM (PLOz8)

115 106 LizLem,

BUT BARKY this is OUR SONG....

//Teary Eyed Chris Matthews with La Internationale playing on a busted speaker in Camp 957

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:43 PM (9jfyN)

116 Ummmmmmmmmmm. Michelle. Is really missing, ahhhhhhhhhhh, her personal assistants too! You know how hard. It is, ahhhhhhhhhhhh, to cram her calloused hooves, ummmmm. even into a pair of flats?

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at October 03, 2013 03:43 PM (jucos)

117 They never really need to plan because the GOP always folds and runs away. This is something new and they do not know how to react. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 07:26 PM (WjLUf) Saw an article regarding this earlier as well. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/360290/no-retreat-no-surrender-john-fund

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 03, 2013 03:43 PM (bb5+k)

118 If I didn't know, I would say Levin is 5'6" max. based on voice.

Posted by: nip at October 03, 2013 03:43 PM (jI23+)

119 BUF v CLE in 45 minutes

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2013 03:44 PM (8sCoq)

120 26 *** golf clap ***

Posted by: fluffy at October 03, 2013 03:44 PM (z9HTb)

121 108 she applied online for insurance through the exchange and, after much delay and entering data, it told her that she doesn't make enough money and perhaps she should take on a second job. Posted by: toby928 > or wear a dress and put on some make-up so you can land a man. > you're not getting any younger you know If she's an artist, you might suggest shaving her legs first...

Posted by: Barry Teh Pole Smoker at October 03, 2013 03:44 PM (PLOz8)

122 Its Washington that has lost.... Both Parties CAN... and IMO should... loose on this. Posted by: Romeo13 at October 03, 2013 07:39 PM

Agreed. I'd be happy to see Choom Boy, Reid and Schumer on the same cell block as Boner, Bitch McConnell and Eric Cantor. The pictures of President Historic FirstÂ© and Speaker Chee-To sharing a last tailor-made before being led off to break rocks would be especially poignant.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 03, 2013 03:44 PM (kaGpp)

123 >All the National Parks should be returned to the states. Problem solved.

Posted by: toby928Â© at October 03, 2013 07:42 PM (QupBk)

This. I don't like the idea of the central regime owning so much land

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2013 03:45 PM (8sCoq)

124 60 I want a divorce. There is no way to be united anymore.

It's a bad relationship for sure.

Ted: Debbie, I gave you my heart, and you cheated on me with the entire football team. I want my ring back.

Debbie: Why are you so OBSESSED with that ring?!? You're on a jihad against me!

Ted: Are you, Debbie, menstruating right now?

Debbie: Yes, but what does that have to do with anything?!?

Posted by: Splunge at October 03, 2013 03:45 PM (bKA83)

125 118 If I didn't know, I would say Levin is 5'6" max. based on voice. Posted by: nip at October 03, 2013 07:43 PM (jI23+) I met him at a book signing. 6 footer and beefy. Heart condition or not, he can kick serious ass.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:45 PM (WjLUf)

126 We need something! End the Waivers for Congress. Require independent prosecutors for the IRS and BATF. Require O Care to report progress to Congress every 3 months through 2017. I've heard Boehner is looking for a reason to keep up the fight. How's this for a reason? Escape. Hatch. I want a Sunset built into this crap law so that if in five or ten years we have doubts, we can jettison the whole thing.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 03, 2013 03:47 PM (yETln)

127 I met him at a book signing. 6 footer and beefy. Heart condition or not, he can kick serious ass. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 07:45 PM

You talkin' about Grumpy Kermit teh Frog?

All the photos I've seen make him look about 4'10".

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 03, 2013 03:47 PM (kaGpp)

128

All the National Parks should be returned to the states. Problem solved.

Almost all still belong to the States. The Federal Government doesn't hold the Deeds to most of the Parklands.

Posted by: Marv Albert at October 03, 2013 03:47 PM (eb75z)

129
Navy gets about $4 million in revenue for that game, but but but THEATER!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 03, 2013 03:48 PM (sj9LN)

130 We need to destroy the Media. The Media is what allows Schumer, Landieu, Reid and Pelosi to say and do whatever they wish to do with no consequences whatsoever. Now, of course, the Media is going to be focusing fully on the Republican guy who called a CNN dim-babe "beautiful" and how awful all the Republicans are because of this. Posted by: Null at October 03, 2013 07:38 PM (xjpRj) We have to break that weapon or it will continue killing us. The media is a WEAPON.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 03, 2013 03:48 PM (bb5+k)

131 127 All the photos I've seen make him look about 4'10". Posted by: MrScribbler at October 03, 2013 07:47 PM (kaGpp) You doubt me? I'm tellin' ya...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:48 PM (WjLUf)

132 All of this will be just a memory in a few days after the news stations take to reporting on the evil Republican-spawned Hurricane Karen. Imagine if there IS any actual damage. The Dems will scream that the R'pubs are denying them funding.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 03, 2013 03:48 PM (DmNpO)

133 If obama* could stop the MLB playoffs (because Tea Party), you bet your asses he would. It's all Political Bullshit Theater. * I no longer capitalize obama's name -- he's not worthy of a cap...a small o for a small man.

Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 03, 2013 03:49 PM (DGGdk)

134 biteysockoff

Posted by: garrett at October 03, 2013 03:49 PM (eb75z)

135

What your artist friend and other moochez are going to find out is that this Obamacare thing has way over promised way too much to spoiled, entitled brats who expect the gubamint to take care of their every need at no cost to them. And boy, is there going to be Hell to pay when they find out they've been screwed, mark my words. The MFM pimped this crap sandwich like the greatest thing since sliced bread. Wait til these idiots try and take a bite and find the nasty filling that Harry, Nancy and Barry passed. Just wait!

Posted by: Barry Teh Pole

How do WE make this happen? Are you talking about what a disaster it is at work? Or in conversation at the store, gas station, ball game?

Word of Mouth, it is believed.

Posted by: rd at October 03, 2013 03:49 PM (D+lxs)

136
I so hope Odouchebag or Biden show up and get the hell booed out of them.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 03, 2013 03:49 PM (sj9LN)

137 127 Mr Scribbler,

He's 6'0 at least...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2912538/bio

tough enough to thrive in Philly as a kid

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:49 PM (9jfyN)

138 >Almost all still belong to the States. The Federal Government doesn't hold the Deeds to most of the Parklands.

Posted by: Marv Albert at October 03, 2013 07:47 PM (eb75z)

Really? Try drilling for oil in Arches NP

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2013 03:49 PM (8sCoq)

139 126 I want a Sunset built into this crap law so that if in five or ten years we have doubts, we can jettison the whole thing. Posted by: bonhomme at October 03, 2013 07:47 PM (yETln) Gotta be careful with that strategy. It's like the Reagan amnesty deal. Amnesty now and security later. And we know how that worked out. It would have to be utterly ironclad, and even then I do not trust anyone in DC.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:50 PM (WjLUf)

140 I love Levin. He brings it and is smart as a whip. His voice is a bit off putting but his content is spot on.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 03, 2013 03:50 PM (jucos)

141 30% of the land area of the US is federally-owned

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2013 03:50 PM (8sCoq)

142 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 07:48 PM

Five feet TOPS, JJ.

But hey, Patton was a good-size dude and sounded like a pipsqueak, too.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 03, 2013 03:50 PM (kaGpp)

143 Too many americans voted for Obama. Twice.

Posted by: the real problem at October 03, 2013 03:51 PM (BmWNr)

144 142 But hey, Patton was a good-size dude and sounded like a pipsqueak, too. Posted by: MrScribbler at October 03, 2013 07:50 PM (kaGpp) Okay, whatever you say. Now go piss in the Rhine! ;-)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:51 PM (WjLUf)

145 It would have to be utterly ironclad, and even then I do not trust anyone in DC. Yeah, I'm thinking 2/3 majority to re-pass it, otherwise it sunsets.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 03, 2013 03:51 PM (yETln)

146 Its funny listening to Levin rant, and then reading his books.

Posted by: Iblis at October 03, 2013 03:52 PM (9221z)

147

I've heard Boehner is looking for a reason to keep up the fight. How's this for a reason? Escape. Hatch. I want a Sunset built into this crap law so that if in five or ten years we have doubts, we can jettison the whole thing.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 03, 2013 07:47 PM (yETln)

Two dates for a sunset clause.

July 1, 2016 and Jan 1, 2018.

Posted by: rd at October 03, 2013 03:52 PM (D+lxs)

148 Wow, it would be cool to have a state-run media at your disposal. You could do all sorts of really cool shit...in the name of tyranny.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at October 03, 2013 03:52 PM (4p5/2)

149 Federally-owned and managed public lands include National Parks, National Forests, and National Wildlife Refuges.

source: nationalatlas.gov

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2013 03:52 PM (8sCoq)

150 die Tea Partei sind unser ungluck!

Posted by: mallfly at October 03, 2013 03:52 PM (bJm7W)

151 57 Ace: Put the "Windy" Davis running for governor in Texas" thread up.....As a Texan, I'm ready to vent cause I can still smell the scent of cheap scotch from the last time we had a Dem governor in office! Posted by: Cat at October 03, 2013 07:30 PM (W/n4s) Pretty sure ace had that thread a week ago.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 03, 2013 03:52 PM (N2GNJ)

152 But hey, Patton was a good-size dude and sounded like a pipsqueak, too. Watch your mouth.

Posted by: Mike Tyson at October 03, 2013 03:52 PM (yETln)

153 Too many americans voted for Obama. Twice. Posted by: the real problem at October 03, 2013 07:51 PM

Nope. The REAL problem is that too many not-necessarily-Americans voted for Choom Boy 20 or 30 times.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 03, 2013 03:52 PM (kaGpp)

154 On the WW2 memorial stuff, I'm seeing lots of stories about "stupid" Republicans yelling at Park Police for closing a memorial that Republican voted to close. Even a huge fuck-up by Obama and the Dems can be turned into a fuck-up by Repubs by the Media.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2013 03:53 PM (ZPrif)

155 They don't hold Title to most of the lands they have claimed. I'm not making that up. The States can toss the Feds out of most Park Lands.

Posted by: garrett at October 03, 2013 03:53 PM (eb75z)

156 So Levin is 6' and Gutfeld is about 5'4".

Strange.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 03, 2013 03:53 PM (APJIX)

157 This. I don't like the idea of the central regime owning so much land Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2013 07:45 PM (8sCoq)

Over 70% of Utah lands are federally owned; feds won't hand them back to us because they think we are children who can't manage our own resources. Sadly, I suspect that when our country's bills come due, Obama or some other dem president will pull a Napolean and sell off our pristine, undeveloped federal lands to, say, China, to pay down our debts. Jefferson would spin so hard in his grave that he'd dig a new one.

Posted by: LizLem at October 03, 2013 03:53 PM (8wqqE)

158 Yeah, feds own the land, not states.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2013 03:54 PM (ZPrif)

159 too many dead folks did too

Posted by: UnkleFabio at October 03, 2013 03:54 PM (c36kX)

160 The 800,000 that are laid off, why bring them back? We have to loan money from China to pay them.

Posted by: redenzo at October 03, 2013 03:54 PM (vx61Q)

161 Looks like the Bamster is going to get all wee wee'd up before this is over. And yes he's acting like a drama queen who does more catching than pitching.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at October 03, 2013 03:55 PM (RZP0w)

162 They don't hold Title to most of the lands they have claimed. I'm not making that up. The States can toss the Feds out of most Park Lands. I grabbed millions of acres just to keep it from being mined.

Posted by: Billy Clintoon at October 03, 2013 03:55 PM (yETln)

163 They have closed Mt Vernon and other privately funded sites to piss off Americans, LIV Americans or just Not Paying Much Attention Americans Until It Impacts Them On Vacation. They then get whiffs of news, repeatedly, carried on like ebola virus thanks to the willing lapdog media, that this is all the Tea Party and evil Republican's fault.

The freaking media does not report that Mt Vernon is closed and supported by private funds. That the WWII Memorial was created by private funds. Oh, no. They would not report that, after all, there were gunshots today.

One thing you CAN do is call/email/write/fax your Republican reps in DC and tell them to get a better and more coordinated messaging system---to fight the lapdog media the best they can. This is not "just" about Obamacare, it is about the US Treasury lying for 100 straight days about our debt exceeding $16 trillion and why we should not accrue more debt with "free" medical care or amnesty. Or why we should not be giving billions to Syria.

But I digress...let your representative know they need to, NOW, do a better job with the message. For five years the Dems have run full court press and the GOP has looked like second string bench-warmers with the flu. The time is now to wake the hell up.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen of Tea Party, Eleventy District at October 03, 2013 03:55 PM (baL2B)

164 Look into how Reid got rich. To develop anywhere in Nevada you have to get the Feds to sell the land. Requires approval from Fed bureaucrats. Vegas is an island surrounded by fed land. Whenever it expands the feds have say ok.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2013 03:55 PM (ZPrif)

165 Those malfunctioning little twerps. This is all their fault.

Posted by: C3PObama at October 03, 2013 03:55 PM (dvRYt)

166 154 Flatbush Joe,

Welcome to Team Misdemeanor Lawfare...

oh wait...

it is not my fault that:

The Majority of fucking Retard Electorate have no idea how much power ogabe has on shutdowns...

that the media sucks Obama's dick by choice

that the GOP refuses to play hard dirty live TV with the newsies...

of course if they do the newsies then speed dial our "GOP SUPERHERO SQUAD" aka the McCain gang exclusively..,.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:55 PM (9jfyN)

167 >Over 70% of Utah lands are federally owned; feds won't hand them back to us because they think we are children who can't manage our own resources.

then you must know the real story behind the creation of the Escalante/Grand Staircase National Monument

hint: it wasn't about preserving a unique landscape

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2013 03:56 PM (8sCoq)

168 I'd be interested to know how many of those 800,000 would be able to get private-sector jobs within 6 months.

Posted by: kartoffel at October 03, 2013 03:56 PM (oLCqQ)

169 "160 The 800,000 that are laid off, why bring them back? We have to loan money from China to pay them."

My attitude is that those 800,000 is just a good start.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 03, 2013 03:56 PM (APJIX)

170 150 die Tea Partei sind unser ungluck! Posted by: mallfly at October 03, 2013 07:52 PM (bJm7W) I understand that reference all too well. Normally, I would chafe at the comparison but I fear you are spot on. Sad.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:56 PM (WjLUf)

171 @157 Even if the Chinese buy half of Utah, it is not going anywhere. The Japanese bought up Monterey in the 80s and 90s.

Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2013 03:56 PM (sOtz/)

172 I have a friend (from my USAF days) that blames "both sides". ("both sides" = Tea Party conservatives.) A shame since I do really like him. He's a good guy. He's just not the moderate he thinks he is. I guess since he's pro 2nd amendment he thinks he's a moderate. His wife is a far left moonbat.

Posted by: puddleglum at October 03, 2013 03:56 PM (jUJVa)

173 I believe Nevada tossed the Feds out of a few parcels a little over a decade ago.

Posted by: garrett at October 03, 2013 03:57 PM (eb75z)

174 Look into how Reid got rich. To develop anywhere in Nevada you have to get the Feds to sell the land. Requires approval from Fed bureaucrats. Crooked land deals you say? That sounds much better than cattle futures.

Posted by: Hilly Clintoon at October 03, 2013 03:57 PM (yETln)

175 157 LizLem,

Yeah well that is how insurgencies...REAL insurgencies start.....

"American Taliban" will mean something more than "Retiree in a Tricorn hat"

asshole leftoids

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:58 PM (9jfyN)

176 His all in strategy, like morons in poker tournament play who consistently use the all in strategy works a few times but eventually they get nailed. I'm thinking he gets nailed this time, unless the GOP folds again, like a pussy.

Posted by: UWP at October 03, 2013 03:58 PM (vj51i)

177 He's just not the moderate he thinks he is. I guess since he's pro 2nd amendment he thinks he's a moderate. His wife is a far left moonbat. I'm a moderate, I listen to both sides. Jon Stewart AND Steven Colbert.

Posted by: College Student at October 03, 2013 03:59 PM (yETln)

178 173 I believe Nevada tossed the Feds out of a few parcels a little over a decade ago. Posted by: garrett at October 03, 2013 07:57 PM (eb75z) That's when all those little boys went missing without a trace...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:59 PM (WjLUf)

179 Actually, I think the Republicans should raise the debt limit for another year at an amount based on current spending. The optics look good and the Pretender King can't complain. Kill the counter play of the Democrats.

Posted by: Chris at October 03, 2013 03:59 PM (aBOfW)

180 I'm thinking he gets nailed this time, unless the GOP folds again, like a pussy. Yer doing it wrong, you don't fold it.

Posted by: College Student at October 03, 2013 03:59 PM (yETln)

181 178 JJ Sefton,

BASTARDS COST ME MILLIONS!

//Whiny Reedy Voice in an Ice Cream Truck

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:59 PM (9jfyN)

182 179 Chris,

I agree...sadly.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:00 PM (9jfyN)

183 The problem is that Obama needs a ble shifting finger pointing czar but with shutnado he can't hire one.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 03, 2013 04:00 PM (PjgvN)

184 181 Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 07:59 PM (9jfyN) Is he Mr. Softee or Mr. Stiffee?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 04:00 PM (WjLUf)

185 Oops. >>Meanwhile, a quarter of voters blame Â“Republican leaders such as John BoehnerÂ” (25 percent) for the shutdown and about the same number point the finger at President Obama (24 percent). Some 17 percent blame Â“Tea Party Republicans such as Ted Cruz.Â” Just 8 percent blame Â“Democratic leaders such as Harry Reid.Â” Another 20 percent think all of them are responsible for the shutdown. http://tinyurl.com/objawf9

Posted by: JackStraw at October 03, 2013 04:01 PM (g1DWB)

186 Recently hacked sales figures from the manufacturers of adult diapers indicate that anal leakage in the D.C. area has tripled in the last 4 days.

Posted by: Fritz at October 03, 2013 04:01 PM (x2W/k)

187 186 Recently hacked sales figures from the manufacturers of adult diapers indicate that anal leakage in the D.C. area has tripled in the last 4 days. Posted by: Fritz at October 03, 2013 08:01 PM (x2W/k When Schumer and Reid open their mouths, they get anal leakage.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 04:02 PM (WjLUf)

188 All that means is that you have no convictions that are worth fighting for.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2013 07:25 PM (/kU/5)

My idea of bipartisan "reaching across the aisle" is to bitch slap them. I watched a special on Dolly Madison a few years ago. Congress used to have duels and beat each other with canes. I say bring back that time. I think Cruz could hold his own and smack Harry around with one hand tied behind his back.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen of Tea Party, Eleventy District at October 03, 2013 04:02 PM (baL2B)

189 We all can see how petty the Dems are acting in ways that we can see--renting barricades to close the WW II Memorial--that is essentially never guarded-- just imagine how petty they are in the negotiations behind the scenes.

Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2013 04:03 PM (r2PLg)

190 184 JJ Sefton,

Mr.Limpy Freeze

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:03 PM (9jfyN)

191 189 Tasker,

Oh but don't you dare imply they'll act like ceckless runts with your health...that sir is TOO FAR

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:04 PM (9jfyN)

192 178 173 I believe Nevada tossed the Feds out of a few parcels a little over a decade ago. Posted by: garrett at October 03, 2013 07:57 PM (eb75z) That's when all those little boys went missing without a trace... Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 07:59 PM (WjLUf) *********** The BLM auctioned it off.

Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2013 04:04 PM (r2PLg)

193 new post up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 03, 2013 04:05 PM (DmNpO)

194 NDH mentioned hurricane Karen up thread, well our betters at the Weather Channel have rolled out this year's first "winter storm"-ATLAS! Doomed, I tell you, doomed.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at October 03, 2013 04:05 PM (/4QHk)

195 Negotiate comes from the Latin word negotium, for business (a Latin compound of "not + leisure"). Zombie Chavez would not approve.

Posted by: a at October 03, 2013 04:06 PM (gQKHE)

196 As far as the media is concerned, it would take him physically handing them blindfolds as they are lined up to be shot, and they would STILL be all "why are you breaking up with me???? What did I DOOO?" Idiots.

Posted by: LizLem at October 03, 2013 07:41 PM (8wqqE)

A reporter, today, did not get the message about the potential barricade busting woman in DC. I have no idea who he was, but he kept asking "is this terrorist-related?" And I kept thinking, "wut?" Then I heard "Is she from Somolia?" and the police froze for a few seconds. I also have a glass half-full of hope that, since Benghazi and they were all played as utter fools, that some in the media are getting weary of the hope-n-change crapola.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen of Tea Party, Eleventy District at October 03, 2013 04:07 PM (baL2B)

197 The end game for the republicans should be a bill that funds Obamacare and requires everybody participate, no exceptions. The dems could never stand having to explain that to all the groups they have given exemptions. If they did pass it, it would get fixed quicker because they would have to bow to the unions, donors and special interest groups. And all this crap is just the prep for blaming republicans for the debt ceiling and the coronation of our imperial president ( and the shredding of the rest of the constitution ).

Posted by: Buck An Ear at October 03, 2013 04:07 PM (zCDcA)

198

Is Boehner being challenged in the upcoming primary or did we actually get through to some of GOP? I'm am leery of this sudden display of spine.

I'd like to see him take evrythingboff the table and submit a budget with the spending levels set at the last budget that was passed and tell president pissant and the pederast to take or leave it with no funding for obamacare. If they don't take it, just walk away.

Posted by: CrotcheyOldJarhead at October 03, 2013 04:09 PM (A9hpr)

199 198 CrotchetyOldJarhead

Boehner has announced he will not stand for Speaker after '14...

Miami county told him to go home.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:10 PM (9jfyN)

200 the Weather Channel have rolled out this year's first "winter storm"-ATLAS! Doomed, I tell you, doomed.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at October 03, 2013 08:05 PM (/4QHk)

Naming winter storms...that is so turbo gay. SERIOUSLY! What is it with drama these days...end of the wooooorlllldd~!!!211

Posted by: Red Shirt at October 03, 2013 04:11 PM (J3fGN)

201

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2013 07:56 PM (8sCoq)

Ayup. Anyone in Utah that adores Clinton is an idiot.

There is a big outdoor retail show in SLC that brings millions to our state. When our governor and legislators were fighting DC on getting our lands back, they actually had the gall to threaten our governor that they would PULL OUT if we went through with getting our lands back. "Nice expo you got there; be a shame if something happened to it..." Ecowarriors are worse than the mafia.

Posted by: LizLem at October 03, 2013 04:11 PM (8wqqE)

202 Actually, I think the Republicans should raise the debt limit for another year at an amount based on current spending. So, borrow another $1,000,000,000,000 ?

Posted by: toby928© at October 03, 2013 04:13 PM (QupBk)

203 172 I have a friend (from my USAF days) that blames "both sides". ("both sides" = Tea Party conservatives.) A shame since I do really like him. He's agood guy. He's just not the moderate he thinks he is. I guess since he's pro 2nd amendment he thinks he's a moderate. His wife is a far left moonbat. His initials aren't KK by chance?

Posted by: C3PObama at October 03, 2013 04:13 PM (dvRYt)

204 185 Oops.

>>Meanwhile, a quarter of voters blame Â“Republican leaders such as John BoehnerÂ” (25 percent) for the shutdown and about the same number point the finger at President Obama (24 percent). Some 17 percent blame Â“Tea Party Republicans such as Ted Cruz.Â” Just 8 percent blame Â“Democratic leaders such as Harry Reid.Â” Another 20 percent think all of them are responsible for the shutdown.

Posted by: JackStraw

This drives me nuts! It should be obvious that Ofuckwad is the sole owner of this shit sandwich but no. Let It Burn!!!

Posted by: puddleglum at October 03, 2013 04:14 PM (jUJVa)

205

Posted by: puddleglum at October 03, 2013 04:14 PM (jUJVa)

206 Soooo Close

Posted by: The Barrel at October 03, 2013 04:17 PM (J3fGN)

207 My name is ASAC Schrader. And you can go fuck yourself.

Posted by: Hank at October 03, 2013 04:28 PM (GJQK0)

208 He's starting to crack up. How are they not embarrassed by their boy-god-king at this point? I'd think that just about anyone who knows him should be edging away from him at this point, it's just a little too unseemly; not to mention those who admit that he's their hero... I'm almost feeling bad for him (and them) myself.

Posted by: Anomie at October 03, 2013 04:33 PM (SrWki)

209 197- I think that you have Cruz' endgame right there. He's going to demand they participate in this clusterfuck and stop the exemptions.

Posted by: Ktgreat: at October 03, 2013 04:38 PM (Bl4dy)

210 oh christ, Hawking is insane isn't he...time travel! pfffttt

Posted by: Lady Billingsgate (of the North) at October 03, 2013 04:42 PM (sq9cR)

211 What happens if nobody signs up for Ocare? Seriously? Throw us all in jail?

Posted by: Purple at October 03, 2013 06:44 PM (iDmoM)

212

My wife tried to check out alternatives re: exchanges. So far for 3 days no go. Just can't get on the website period. 3 years to prepare, it is this bad. Guess what awaits us w/ govt. running health insurance?

I think possibly part of the Reps. strategy on this shutdown is the longer Obamacare seems like a fuck up the more people will be pissed. Don't say the Reps. have no strategy, if they do have one they'd be fools to announce it.

Not saying they are not too dumb NOT to have a strategy, but they just might and be smart enough not to announce.

Posted by: The Farmer at October 03, 2013 06:58 PM (eBupg)

213 Ok since we are in a federal shutdown stop collecting federal tax

Posted by: BFD at October 04, 2013 03:40 AM (huR71)

214 President Obama, Harry Reid and other democrats have drawn a line in the sand; unless we assume our place as slaves to the government, they would rather it all burn.

Posted by: mark at October 04, 2013 05:58 AM (oWl2x)

215 i hope the Republicans take the opportunity to insist on at least a 5% reduction in the individual appropriation bills

Posted by: iowaan at October 04, 2013 06:34 AM (T0dFH)

216

Oh, I get it...Catholic priests are told they risk arrest and imprisonment for volunteering to attend to the faithful with saying mass on Sunday (which if you didn't know is an OBLIGATION), performing scheduled baptisms and weddings or administering last rites at military installations and VA facilities, People living in national parks are not allowed to go home, but the great and mighty god of FOOTBALL is allowed to go on with private funds.

Why ruin a good crisis?

B@$t@rd$, pure and simple.

Posted by: Jimmy P at October 06, 2013 05:54 PM (afQ2e)

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