1 I now have a distinct desire to watch Shoot Em Up tonight.

2 Umm, aren't assault rifles already banned?

3 Biden and his task force are slated to hold meeting this week with victims of gun violence, gun safety groups, hunting groups, and gun owners, White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters.


Just keep Biden away from the paste, crayons and bullets.

4 That article isn't Allah. It's Erika Johnsen. Goddamn, take a second to read the author's name.

5 2 Umm, aren't assault rifles already banned? --- You have to remember that these are Dems and media people. "Assault rifle", to them, means anything that uses smokeless powder cartridges.

6 hey just might come cracking down on Hollywood and Silicon Valley (is that a thing anymore?), in order to mau-mau them into giving them lots of media support for their gun-banning agenda.

Amazing.  In "Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers", Tom Wolfe described black militants terrorizing a pasty government bureaucrat in order to extort money.  Now, it's the bureaucrats terrorizing the country in order to extort money. 

7 Joe Biden heading up a task force that examines mental health services?

Some jokes write themselves

8

I have a theory:

 

Guns are more popular than Obama.

 

And every sane person knows guns are not to blame for the acts of madmen.  In the last several years, there have been numerous knife attacks at Chinese schools, even preschools.  In two incidents, 8 and 7 children were murdered.

 

This is all smoke and mirrors.

9 Will Biden bring his Beretta?

10 Umm, aren't assault rifles already banned?

Posted by: CUS at January 08, 2013 05:56 PM (84pE9)

Since the Sandy Hook shootings they've been on double secret probation.

11 9 Will Biden bring his Beretta? --- Will rosaries be banned if Biden ever goes through with his thread to shove his down someone's throat?

12

And point of order, the media is whole hog for gun control.

 

Getting them on board ain't difficult when they're driving the train.

 

Fuck the MSM.

13 Will Biden bring his Beretta?


Biden has given up firearms for ninja throwing stars.

14 Biden and his task force are slated to hold meeting this week with victims of gun violence, gun safety groups, hunting groups, and gun owners, White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters.

Guess which group he'll be photographed with?

15 <i>Since the Sandy Hook shootings they've been on double secret probation.</i>

Except that idiot could not use an assault rifle as they cannot be bought for civilian use.  Now the completely made up term assault weapon on the other hand may well get banned again.

16 1 I now have a distinct desire to watch Shoot Em Up tonight.

Heat is a good one. Came out after the AWB started...and some say inspired the Hollywood Bank of America heist where the criminals used...oh, that's right..."assault weapons".

Lot of fucking good that ban did.

17 I hope this all backfires (pun intended).

I've been pro-2nd amendment my entire adult life.  But it wasn't until Obama started talking about this gun grab that I (1) joined the NRA; (2) purchased a 12 gauge shotgun; (3) purchased a 9 MM handgun; and (4) applied for a concealed carry permit.

My guess is that I'm not alone.

18 What about hats? They can be pretty dangerous too. Did you ever see Goldfinger?

19 Shit.  I will never get the hang of new comments thingy.

20 Heat is a good one. Came out after the AWB started...and some say inspired the Hollywood Bank of America heist where the criminals used...oh, that's right..."assault weapons". Lot of fucking good that ban did. --- I'm surprised they didn't try to pass a ban on "hillbilly body armor" after that one, given that's how the two guys in question survived for so long.

21 Uh huh, I know what your thinking. Did I fire six shots or only five?

Really, could you tell me? I lost count in all the confusion.

22 What about hats? They can be pretty dangerous too. Did you ever see Goldfinger? Siddown, Joe, G_d love ya!

23 #cutting4guns

24 an "assault weapon" can be pretty much whatever the pols decide to call an "assault weapon". Kind of like the radical feminists deciding what is "sexist" and Al Sharpton deciding what is "racist." Or Michelle Obama deciding what should be served in school cafeterias.

25 thus to better position itself to finally move out of fourth place

But in what direction?

26 They're going to be coming after ammunition next.   They'll try to restrict the number of rounds of some calibers (say, .223) people can purchase to something ridiculous, like 25 per month.  Stock up on your reloading supplies.

27 Shit. I will never get the hang of new comments thingy. CUS, We're using [ ] now instead of < >.

28 I've got an idea! Let's ban killing people!

29 George Zimmerman's trial for the death of Trayvon Martin is in June.  The latest cover of Jet magazine this week shows another young black man who was shot dead.  The caption is, "Is your son next?".  Watch for the administration to tie these deaths in to the gun control debate.  The argument will be "Its racist to oppose gun control", along with "its for the children". 

30 Is this thing loaded? (looks down barrel)

31 That's what I said, 'Is Biden psychologically fit to head up a task force on mental health and guns?'

32 Carats. Seems they don't even post with nothing inbetween them.

33 The burning....it burns!

34 Really, could you tell me? I lost count in all the confusion.

Let me look down this straight tube here, cause I think the bullet might be in there. 

35 But it wasn't until Obama started talking about this gun grab that I (1) joined the NRA; (2) purchased a 12 gauge shotgun; (3) purchased a 9 MM handgun; and (4) applied for a concealed carry permit.
---
Me too--except for the 12 gauge.  And, no CCW in Illinois.  Yet.  Looking to get a 9mm carbine soon.  I feel standardizing on a caliber is good.

36

What a buch of malarkey. This certainly isn't Justified.

 

37 @30
Dang, beat me.

38 8


I am almost there with you in that assessment, but then I think that the media actually did help this asshole get re-elected, so there are some people who are susceptible to their bullshit.

39 Fast & Furious was the 1st attempt, "under the radar" and all that.  Now, it's "in your face" on the bodies of 20 Newtown 1st graders.  Evil bunch, they are.  The MFM too. May there be big time karma. 

40 By the way, I'd love to see research tracking the instances of "military style" on news stations in the month before and after Obama used that term in his December speech.  Than compare it to "War on Terror" after Bush made his... noting wether or not they use the "so-called" or snee""r quotes.

41 May there be big time karma.

I'm thinking Helen Thomas in a teddy.

42
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has adopted a new term for gun control, “gun violence prevention,” in hopes that the euphemism will make it easier to marshal public opinion in favor of new gun laws as well as other policies designed to prevent shootings.





“Gun violence prevention”?  Why, that sounds so reasonable.  Sign us up!

Posted by: Team Republican

43 They'll have to take my phaser out of my cold dead hands

My live warm hands are around green boobies right now

44

The bottom line is, we get to have the same weapons the cops have.

 

Why do cops need an AR 15?  Why do cops need handguns/semiautos?

 

Answer those questions and you will understand that that really is the demarcation line, at least for me.  When cops are ok with a six shooter, than we can have a "national conversation".

 

Until then, fuck off.

45 test post

46 come on, ace. Conservatives should learn that any criticism of lefties is beyond the pale and that any conservative idea is laughable. Then, once we've conceded the culture and the argument, people will come to our side because we're so reasonable. IDK, it just feels like that's the direction the GOP is being bowed in.

47 Er, those hands are not quite that warm, Captain.

48 Which gun owners are getting a White House invite? Kerry and MacAuliffe

49
Getting them on board ain't difficult when they're driving the train.

Fuck the MSM.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 08, 2013 05:58 PM (tVTLU)

Agreed.  They should be treated as a hostile combatant in every encounter with our side.  They are, in fact, enemy soldiers using a propaganda weapon against us.

The media is the threat. They have always been the threat. Till we eliminate the threat they pose, we will always be in serious trouble. 

50 I saw a movie where only the police and the military had guns. It was called Schindler's List.

51 This post is relevant to my movie idea. Ace writes a farsical comedy (that takes itself seriously) about politician/media manipulation. Sorta like a Wag The Dog type of thing but from our perspective. again: from the writer of Ace of Spades... Adam Baldwin, Nick Searcy, and Angie Harmon in... TORTURE'S HAINDMAIDEN

52 **“Gun violence prevention”? Why, that sounds so reasonable. Sign us up!** that's stealth racism! Who does most of the gun violence?

53 I'm thinking Helen Thomas in a teddy.  Posted by: pep at January 08, 2013 06:06 PM

I'm thinking "mugged liberals" (a bunch of them), violated by their feral crew.  Throw in some jihadis.  Then some saviour with a legal gun and CCW license.

54 House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has adopted a new term for gun control, “gun violence prevention,” in hopes that the euphemism will make it easier to marshal public opinion in favor of new gun laws as well as other policies designed to prevent shootings.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 08, 2013 06:06 PM

Put a bag over Pelosi's head and call it "Ugliness Prevention"

55 44, are you a RINo? If they cops get ARs, we get mortars and SAWs. No Compromises, fuck'em

56 I posted it at the tail end of the last thread, but it deserves a minor repost: http://preview.tinyurl.com/a7s5rrb That's the link to the Liberty Law post from the link farm post this morning. The arguments are really well-thought-out and well-reasoned (with a couple exceptions), but think about how much impact that would have on a Feinstein or any of the other Control Freaks. It is, has been, and always will be about Power And Control. The "debate" is a sham.

57 They are going to keep pushing and pushing.

They are trying to break us down.

The are going to find out very soon that

NOT EVERY KNEE SHALL BEND!

58

It still floors me that there are otherwise smart people in the country who have the thought process that if guns are banned then no more violent crimes will happen to innocent people.

 

 

by the way and I'm putting my /sarc tag up front on this one, about that Sandy Hook conspiracy theory, is it a coincidence that the hurricane was Sandy and then the shooting took place at Sandy Hook? I mean come on, obviously both were some super secret conspiracy by people who watched Grease one too many times.

59

cops aren't the enemy

60 And to think it only took the slaughter of twenty children and six adults to get this going!

61 Yep.

The reason we got TV ratings, the establishment of the ESRB, and the assault weapons ban (and the idea of "assault weapons") at the exact same time is because this D.C./L.A. exchange has happened before.

You guys remember Michael Moriarty? Hollywood doesn't.

Oh well. We can't stop this (again), so let's get a dead-pool going. Who gets the lifetime blacklisting for sticking his neck out and opposing censorship this time? Any suspected non-Democrats on any big CBS shows?

62 The use of semi-automatic "assault rifles" in US homicides is statistically insignificant. (rifles of any type account for only a fraction of homicides in the United States — of 12,664 murder victims last year, 323 were killed with rifles So of course they need to be banned.

63 You know, I've always wanted to buy some firearms but put it on the backburner. Just never had the need. I don't want anything exotic, a 9mm or something. My eyesight is not great so maybe a shotgun too. But with the tyrannical nature of Obama and his merry band I believe I will be taking the plunge very soon. My sister (who has the exact same mindset) and I will be going to the Chantilly (VA) Gun Show next month. She has a co-worker who is from Montana and is a big hunter. Hopefully he'll come along. My gun expertise is limited to the USAF (i.e. occasional range experience with an M-16 and one fun day with a 9mm at the range. I can actually shoot what I aim at with a 9mm). I'm even tempted to join the NRA out of sheer spite towards this administration and the various O'Lapdogs. Elections have conscequences.

64

“His group will also meet with representatives of the entertainment and video-game industries,” Carney said.

 

Who will write large checks to OFA, and then   no longer be deemed  part of the problem.

65 OT: you know how women can sense that you've had sex recently, and therefore will be more attracted to you? Employers are the same. 7 months unemployed without an interview,, finally get a job, and two more employers call for an interview. Apropos of nothing. Carry on.

66

Diogenes:

 

Exactly, EVERY TIME our people give interviews or talk with the MSM, we need to CALL THEM THE FUCK OUT on their biases:

 

It is very simple, just like with Gregory:

 

"David, I understand that you are biased against guns, but if the facts support our Second Amendment"

"bullshit reporter, I understand you and your network are for the liberal cause of gun control and taking Americans firearms, but that position doesn't make sense and here is why..."

 

I mean did you see that AP article that gun buyers weren't as interested in Colorado or CT (the sites obviously of the two recent tragedies - implying by headline that perhaps people who lived in states of tragedies did not want to buy guns)?  Just because TN buyers have been higher in the last month.

 

Gun sales and background checks ARE THROUGH THE ROOF in CO and CT.

 

Fuck the MSM.  They are the enemy.  There must be some commie editorial board that tries to figure how much of a lefty message they can get with every headline.

 

 

67
that's stealth racism!
Who does most of the gun violence?

Posted by: joeindc44




HR. Res 210 - The Mccain-Pelosie Assualt Weapon Ban and Minority Youth Protection Act

68 @58

You could tell them over and over again that one of the worst case of mass murder was committed using a bottle of gasoline and a match.

It doesn't matter.

They want what they want.

Logic and reason are not at play here.

69 btw, anyone else notice the connection between the topic of this post and what 4chan did? They're both about manipulation and advancing an agenda. Let's face it: People aren't gonna get any wiser. If we don't start 'manupilating' to people to the truth, we'll never remove Democrats from the most powerful positions.

70 Except that idiot could not use an assault rifle as they cannot be bought for civilian use. Now the completely made up term assault weapon on the other hand may well get banned again. Wish I'd never taken that boating trip. Never would have had that accident and lost them all. Woe is me.

71 Our starting point should be the repeal of the NFA. The Constitution is clear, gun ownership is a natural right and our government has no authority to restrict it. If anything, the tragedies illustrate the complete absurdity of the control regime. If it can't work in Norway, Chicago, or Connecticut, it isn't working. If they want to restrict gun ownership, in anyway, make them amend the Constitution. I am up for an Article five convention.

72

Jean,

 

You crack me up.  AGREED!!!

73 OT: you know how women can sense that you've had sex recently, and therefore will be more attracted to you?

Is this true?  Never heard of it.  This may explain why women avoid me like Ted Bundy.

74 I hope this all backfires (pun intended).

I've been pro-2nd amendment my entire adult life. But it wasn't until Obama started talking about this gun grab that I (1) joined the NRA; (2) purchased a 12 gauge shotgun; (3) purchased a 9 MM handgun; and (4) applied for a concealed carry permit.

Similar story here.  I grew up not really seeing much need or use for a gun that wasn't suited for hunting or as a collector piece.

Then the ban stuff in the 90's led me to by my first "high capacity" 9mm pistol.  The next round of ban talk?  AK-47, FAL and SKS.  I likely never would've even considered buying them if the Dems didn't want to ban them.

Thanks for the inspiration and new hobby, Bill Clinton!

75 TheOne™ is already using social media to drive his narrative.

At another site a commenter linked to a YouTube video.  The ad prior to the video was a "plea" from various high school students in CA to stop the gun violence at schools.

And to paraphrase JohnE, we're sitting around here rubbing sticks.

76 "Biden’s task force is examining legislation that would ban assault rifles, but is also looking at the role of violent movies and videogames in mass shootings and whether there is adequate access to mental health services." Well, isn't Biden sophisticated and wise. Pretty good for a retard, I guess. "In any case of a lunatic killing people with guns to live out his power fantasies, the fantasy industry blames the gun industry and the gun industry blames the fantasy industry. It's hardly a surprise that Obama will side with the fantasy industry, as he likes them and hates gun owners." The fantasy industry made Obama what he is. "The only knock against the theory is that these people were almost all on Obama's side in the first place." Obama is trying to prove that he's "extremely concerned" and not just some totalitarian, gun-grabbing troglodyte, or something. "I suppose we'll have some minor new thing, some more ratings or whatnot, and an agreement in the entertainment industry for "voluntary" restraint (and any restraint which is exercised to head off the implied threat of actual censorship isn't voluntary, by the way)." I might dislike the Media, and pretty much all that it does, but the Government should fuck off. "This will be a fig leaf. Obama seeks to take away Americans' rights and will sell the idea that he is a man of moderation by also taking away some rights to free expression. See? A "balanced approach."" Our king is allwise. And allknowing. Almost like a God. (Well, why insult Obama by comparing him to God?)

77

Obama's skin color saved him (only temporarily, and only in a manner of speaking) from his personality.

 

In other words, if Obama hadn't been (half-) black, and hadn't benefited from all the socialization (not socialist, socialization) that came with his being showered with affirmative-action privilege, his core personality is such that by his twenties he surely would have become pretty indistinguishable from Aurora's Holmes or even Newtown's Lanza.

 

Which just makes what he's pursuing now all the more ironically rich. 

78 Money always wins out. People want to see gory violent shit. Look at Walking Dead. Does it get more violent than that? Would people want it any other way? There are a lot of Hwd types that are into guns for protection -- especially those with families. They're not fools.

79 65 OT: you know how women can sense that you've had sex recently, and therefore will be more attracted to you? Posted by: Job.Boi at January 08, 2013 06:12 PM (Q8Wa9) I knew it. I fucking knew it. You people were keeping secrets from me. This explains everything.

80 Here's my theory:

 If you don't see the GOP screaming their asses off about attacks on the 2nd Amendment Rights in unison, and very soon, then I'll take that as [PROOF POSITIVE/b] that they are statist central planners first, and opposition party a [very/i] distant second.

And no more whining about the MFM.
They have a majority on this one, and this is THE fucking hill that they've supposedly been saving their chits for.

Otherwise, me and several million other Americans will find our own hill.

It's getting a little late in the game, and that puke SCOAMF is just begging for a political beatdown.

81
from the link...

The White House on Tuesday afternoon reached out to major philanthropic foundations not typically associated with gun control to gauge how much they are willing to get involved...

The call, which featured Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Jonathan Greenblatt, the director of the White House Office of Social Innovation and Civic Participation....

“There’s only one reason why you get a bunch of deep-pocketed funders on the phone,” the participant said. “It’s not because they’re great dancers. It’s because at the end of the day you need to tap into them for something.”

Double tap.

82 That is truly a sad story rickb223.  Where were you boating, again?

83

One of the first news blurbs about the Biden task force described how the police indicated that untreated mentally ill are a big part of the problem.

 

A gun database of the mentally ill would not have prevented the AZ, CO or Sandy Hook shootings because none of the shooters were yet in the mental health system. Not one of them had an official diagnosis.

 

Again, this goes back to personal responsibility. Someone in the sphere of those sick young men needed to intervene before the violence occurred. Maybe it's not necessarily a gun problem but a "Pull your head out of your ass and do something"  problem.

84

How does something get this coordinated this fast? The celebrity video, all the new gun buyback programs, King County just announced that if you give them your gun you'll get an amazon gift card. Plus all the social media as well as the regular media. Is it really all just happening this fast, or have things been ready to roll for a while, a movement looking for a catalyst? I am not, repeat, NOT saying Sandy Hook was a conspiracy. I am just saying that it is amazing what Obama's new media team can get going on pretty much a dime, while as others alluded to here, conservatives are often caught with their pants down reading the sunday comics as this type of thing gets entrenched.

85 65 OT: you know how women can sense that you've had sex recently, and therefore will be more attracted to you? Is it because of my lack of pants?

86

I want justice in 2013. The trial begins in June and we want TrayvonÂ’s murderer held accountable for what he did. This was a murder. This was not a case of Stand Your Ground or self-defense. One of the things Tracy [TrayvonÂ’s father] and I have done is take a negative and make it positive. We want to try and engage the political process with the Change for Trayvon campaign to encourage people around the country to get involved and vote to help revise these Stand Your Ground laws. I have always been a faithful person who firmly believed in God so I know that my strength in the past few months didnÂ’t from me. It came from God. ThatÂ’s why itÂ’s important for me to give back to the community and other families

watch her and gabby giffords criss-cross the country

87

Ombudsmen and Merovign

 

Am I missing something here.  Or is it that women know when you've had sex.  Therefore they will be more attracted to you?

 

And what if it was gay sex???  hahahahaha.

88 Oh, and to the 20-something Obama voters who aren't reading this?

Don't come crying to the Internet when the next Halo sequel replaces the assault rifle with a semi-automatic Nerf gun.

You broke it, you buy it.

89 I'm in the camp that neither Obama nor congress will do shit about guns. They'll enact some feel good legislation and/or EOs related to background checks and **maybe** ban 30+ round magazines. Aside from that, not much else. There are virtually no areas of common ground between Republicans and Democrats anymore. Except one. Guns. There are enough Democrat gun owners who make any meaningful gun grab virtually impossible.

And yes, Obama doesn't need congress to go the EO. But he's smart enough to know that if he does this, it will enrage enough Democrats to potentially fuck up his plans for the next 4 years.

90 Otherwise, me and several million other Americans will find our own hill. Posted by: ontherocks at January 08, 2013 06:18 PM (aZ6ew) Not only have we had no hills in my lifetime, but my entire life we've been fighting a holding action up to our knees in the sea.

91 And to paraphrase JohnE, we're sitting around here rubbing sticks. Stop that man. He might start a fire. Stick control is the only way to prevent arson.

92 Fargin' sock.

Oh BTW.  Hammers have killed more people in this country than rifles.  True fact.

93
Fuck the MSM. They are the enemy. There must be some commie editorial board that tries to figure how much of a lefty message they can get with every headline.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 08, 2013 06:12 PM (tVTLU)

Close.  The National Media is headquartered primarily in New York City. (An Area that voted for Barack Obama by 79% in 200   As graduates of Journalism schools, they are already liberally inclined, and further purified by being required to be a member of a Union.

Odds are, that 98% of Journalists are Liberal Democrat Union Members hired from the New York market.  Many of them have actual blood relatives who are Democrat office holders, such as Andrew Cuomo, Cokie Roberts, and Chris Matthews.

I personally favor boxing them in the mouth and perhaps giving them a good beat down should the opportunity ever present itself.   They need to be afraid of us.  They need to fear us far worse than they fear the Muslims. 

94 Posted by: thunderb at January 08, 2013 06:19 PM (Dnbau) Great sock!!! Oh....you were serious? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

95 74 Is this true? Never heard of it. This may explain why women avoid me like Ted Bundy. &&&&&&&&&&& Completely true. Sex is feast or famine. Now, whether it's them sensing some I-get-laid-a-lot pheromone and warming up, or sensing desperation and cooling down, remains to be seen. I think it's both. But they know.

96

Uh Thunderb,

 

If someone jumps on me and bashes my head into the concrete sidewalk, they might die.

 

End of story.  I hope Zimmerman makes millions and millions off of NBC.

97 OT: you know how women can sense that you've had sex recently, and therefore will be more attracted to you?

Of course.  When they see me handing another broad an envelope of cash before dropping her off on the corner, they naturally become more attracted.

98 "85 How does something get this coordinated this fast? The celebrity video, all the new gun buyback programs, King County just announced that if you give them your gun you'll get an amazon gift card. Plus all the social media as well as the regular media. Is it really all just happening this fast, or have things been ready to roll for a while, a movement looking for a catalyst? I am not, repeat, NOT saying Sandy Hook was a conspiracy. I am just saying that it is amazing what Obama's new media team can get going on pretty much a dime, while as others alluded to here, conservatives are often caught with their pants down reading the sunday comics as this type of thing gets entrenched. Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 08, 2013 06:19 PM (RZ8pf) " Leftists are great (community) organizers. Blitzkulturkampf. Achtung, Pansies!

99
Is this true? Never heard of it. This may explain why women avoid me like Ted Bundy.

Posted by: Ombudsman at January 08, 2013 06:15 PM (HqXYa)

They actually liked Ted Bundy.  He was considered Charming.

100 conservatives are often caught with their pants down reading the sunday comics as this type of thing gets entrenched. Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 08, 2013 06:19 PM (RZ8pf) That's because we are inclined by nature to mind our own business, and they are inclined by nature to get all up in other people's business. It's what they *do*, 24/7.

101 85
How does something get this coordinated this fast? The celebrity video, all the new gun buyback programs, King County just announced that if you give them your gun you'll get an amazon gift card. Plus all the social media as well as the regular media. Is it really all just happening this fast, or have things been ready to roll for a while, a movement looking for a catalyst? I am not, repeat, NOT saying Sandy Hook was a conspiracy. I am just saying that it is amazing what Obama's new media team can get going on pretty much a dime, while as others alluded to here, conservatives are often caught with their pants down reading the sunday comics as this type of thing gets entrenched.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 08, 2013 06:19 PM (RZ8pf)

____________

That's because the right sucks at using new media. We're always 2 years behind the times with technology. See ORCA as exhibit A.

102 I blame film maker of movie "Being There" for  giving ideas to the proggies for getting  TFG elected in the first place!  Arrest that film maker!  Oh wait, isn't Peter Sellers dead?

103 Is it because of my lack of pants? Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 08, 2013 06:19 PM (oKVrA) Nope, it's cause your face looks like a glazed donut.

104 That is, till he went all stabby and shit.

105 According to Intrade, there's a 60 percent chance that Joe will try to finger Gabby Giffords during the press conference following the first task force meeting.

106 When they see me handing another broad an envelope of cash before dropping her off on the corner, they naturally become more attracted. It goes without saying that having a car is another plus.

107 L'il Barry will do anything to advance his cause. He, like Trotsky, believe his end is justified (see the 15 Sept. 2000 issue of The Socialist Worker for a very illumination, technical/theoretical treatment of this important question, Comrade). Murder is already illegal.If he really wanted to reduce mass murder in victim-disarmament zones (VDZs), he would reduce VDZs. Better yet, he would try to inculcate in people a love and fear of their Creator, Nature's God. http://preview.tinyurl.com/b2a78nm

108 "88 Ombudsmen and Merovign Am I missing something here. Or is it that women know when you've had sex. Therefore they will be more attracted to you? And what if it was gay sex??? hahahahaha. Posted by: Prescient11 at January 08, 2013 06:19 PM (tVTLU) " Too easy.

109 Someone should ask Nick Searcy about how many people in Hwd really do own guns.

110 not serious, just didn't make clear it was his mom in the quote.  Having trouble with spacing too.  Apologies.

111

Diogenes:

 

Indeed!  It has to be one of two things:  1) liberal conspiracy; or 2) they all come from the same place and have all the same prejudices.

 

In the end, the truth will out.  Information is the great equalizer and liberals/commies are simply wrong on the facts on 99% of issues.

112 there's a 60 percent chance that Joe will try to finger Gabby Giffords Well, after all, he's not a young man any longer.

113

 

What about when a crowd gets "angry about a video" and attacks your home?

 

For over a month, we heard Barky and his surrogates talking about a mob getting "angry about a video" and killing people as a result of that.

 

That excuse for the 9/11 attack combined both of these subjects:

-- That people can be stirred to violence from something they see on the screen.

-- That people need high-capacity firearms to protect themselves...or they get dead.

 

So, I say...whenever these gun-grabbers ask 'Why do people need high-capacity magazines?"...we say:

Because a crowd could "get angry about a video" and attack me, en masse.

 

114

"Tonight on a very special Modern Family, the kids are taken hostage at school by a crazed assault weapon wielding Republican.  Can the two adorably non-threatening gay dads save the day?"

115 Posted by: thunderb at January 08, 2013 06:19 PM (Dnbau)


Uhh...are you lost there bub????

116 "97 Uh Thunderb, If someone jumps on me and bashes my head into the concrete sidewalk, they might die. End of story. I hope Zimmerman makes millions and millions off of NBC. Posted by: Prescient11 at January 08, 2013 06:22 PM (tVTLU) " You might have misunderstood her post.

117

"in order to mau-mau them"

 

That's racist.

118 Just saw Dredd, it was a nice bit of the old ultraviolence.

119

Ontherocks:

 

Yep, the GOP is seriously fucked if they think the American people are going to stand for gun control which does nothing but fuck over law abiding citizens.

 

Seriously, the GOP had better watch out.  If they don't protect this shit, then we truly could see the rise of a viable 3rd party.  It's already fracturing at the seams in a lot of areas.

120 Wish I'd never taken that boating trip. Never would have had that accident and lost them all. Woe is me.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 08, 2013 06:14 PM (3wlvV)

 

I remember seeing your boating accident out on the lake.  Tried to row your way but the canoe capsized and I lost all of my hunting equipment.

121 I would expect grandpa & the Columbian chick and Manny to come in guns a blazing.

122 That is truly a sad story rickb223. Where were you boating, again? Crossing the Delaware. (<< DYSWIDT?)

123 #74

If women had avoided Ted Bundy he would probably still be alive and unknown today. His facility as a murderer was greatly aided by his ability to draw in women.

There is some evolutionary defect that makes serial killers smell like sexually successful guys. Or some women are just suicidal and don't know it consciously.

124 >>>118 "in order to mau-mau them" That's racist. No, it's: Dats racist!

125

Darth,

 

Dredd was good?  EXCELLENT.  I might rent it tonight.

 

Laurie David's Cervix:

 

Fucking hilarious.

126 "NBC is already fishing in troubled waters -- trying to get CBS roughed up by the government for its violent programming, and thus to better position itself to finally move out of fourth place." What are the odds that CBS will let this happen? NBC moving out of 4th place isn't good for CBS; even if CBS still leads, CBS will make less money ... is CBS okay with this? Getting roughed-up by the government ... everyone knows how this ends: the very top executives essentially lose all power ... and to an assortment of bureaucratic snots ... roughly the same age as their children. There is, then, a small chance that the number of "D" major television networks will drop by 1.

127 That's the thing about Dem's they always have so many sources at their ready.  But how can Hollywood be taken seriously with all the violence they conjure up?  Labor unions are sitting this issue out.  Big no no for them.  Will be women, children and whiny movie stars accompanied and given full coverage by the media.

128 Crossing the Delaware. (<< DYSWIDT?)

Posted by: rickb223 at January 08, 2013 06:27 PM (d0Dmj)

 

Damn, there goes a perfectly fine alibi.  Oh yeah,now I remember,  it wasn't a lake, it was the Delaware.

129 The only knock against the theory is that these people were almost all on Obama's side in the first place. ________________ Yep. If you guys haven't seen this video before it's fitting. Hollywood Hypocrites. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJjlPH1dqo&feature=player_embedded

130 Crossing the Delaware.
---
Didn't your mom tell you to sit down when in a boat?

131 I am just saying that it is amazing what Obama's new media team can get going on pretty much a dime, while as others alluded to here, conservatives are often caught with their pants down reading
the sunday comics as this type of thing gets entrenched.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 08, 2013 06:19 PM (RZ8pf)

Except they don't really have to do much of anything.  Perhaps throw out some talking points to a couple liberal blogs, but little effort is required.

It may look like an organized, highly coordinated effort, but for the most part it's just fellow travelers doing what they're already predisposed to do.

A pack of hungry wolves doesn't need to be told to attack a wounded sheep.

132 124 If people in general are attracted to narcissists it would stand to reason they would be attracted to sociopaths.

133

"Tonight on The Simpsons, fat stupid Homer buys an assualt weapon and becomes a danger to everyone."

"Then on an all new Family Guy, fat stupid Peter buys an assualt weapon and becomes a danger to everyone."

134 This may have been mentioned upthread, but I just watched the Piers Morgan  - Alex Jones "debate" on yesterday's Piers show.    A not so subtle trick by the anti-gun left: instead of inviting a sane, sober gun-rights advocate on the show to debate, you bring in the loony bomb-throwers.  Then you can say , See?  these gun people are nuts.

135 I remember seeing your boating accident out on the lake. Tried to row your way but the canoe capsized and I lost all of my hunting equipment. Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 08, 2013 06:27 PM (YYyqq) I witnessed that from my Dirigible Airship. I wanted to come down to help, but all my guns fell out when I turned and the loss of ballast left me shooting upward and unable to assist.

136 In the end, the truth will out. Information is the great equalizer and liberals/commies are simply wrong on the facts on 99% of issues.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 08, 2013 06:24 PM (tVTLU)

But they have 99% of the Public Address system.  All anyone gets to hear is their wrong ideas.

137 Similar story here. I grew up not really seeing much need or use for a gun that wasn't suited for hunting or as a collector piece.

Then the ban stuff in the 90's led me to by my first "high capacity" 9mm pistol. The next round of ban talk? AK-47, FAL and SKS. I likely never would've even considered buying them if the Dems didn't want to ban them.

Me too.  I owned one revolver when the Dogeater was elected and I had owned it for decades.  Thanks to the Dems I have acquired a mini arsenal of long guns and handguns and I'm still buying up ammo and magazines.  I never thought I'd have to defend a right that the constitution clearly acknowledges from a government that has become my enemy, but I can assume nothing anymore.

138 You know,  I hate to use the lobster in a pot of water theory,  but this is what is happening:

1. Making the Church bow to the will of the State (birth control, abortion, and gay marriage)
2. Negating the Second Amendment through a bevy of EO's and legislation
3. Free speech curtailed through minions blocking accounts and sabotaging web sites,  while the regular press has been corrupted to become an arm of the State.
4. The entertainment industry has been co-opted to nothing but constant propaganda.  Messages about leftist causes are in almost all popular television as well as sports shows.
5. Education is now full of leftists and they push the Obama message.
6. Articles about amending the Constitution for allowing the president to serve more than 2 terms.
7. The sudden appearance of "experts" saying that the Constitution needs to be scrapped.

Bad stuff is going to happen over the next four years.  I personally think there is a large effort to scrap the Constitution,  paving the way for Obama to have a Chavez-style presidency.  Ugh.

139 There is some evolutionary defect that makes serial killers smell like sexually successful guys. Or some women are just suicidal and don't know it consciously. Posted by: epobirs at January 08, 2013 06:28 PM (LAjFW) Nah, they just have a good line of shit.

140 Or Michelle Obama deciding what should be served in school cafeterias.

Posted by: mallfly at January 08, 2013 06:02 PM (bJm7W)

Or Michelle Obama deciding what might look flattering on her in the clothing department. Let's just say, boob belt.

141 No, it's: Dats racist!

Posted by: red at January 08, 2013 06:29 PM (ymJbM)

OR: Dat Be Racist, an shit!!

142 Crossing the Delaware. --- Didn't your mom tell you to sit down when in a boat? George did it. Thought I could too.

143

"Given that Obama's talking this way, I think my speculation is reasonable."

 

Best watch it Ace, people were speculating what was going on with the lying sack of poo Hillary Clinton and we were accused of wearing tinfoil hats.

 

chuckle.

144 It was a quote from Martins mom in Essence mag.  I was trying to show they are planning on using her in the gun control debate, along with Giffords.  That are going to make it a race part of the debate, as always. 

145

These fucks are trying spots.  First in Illinois.  Now in New York per Cuomo.

 

They are trying to divide and conquer.  Fuck them, fuck them all.

 

Support the NRA.  Just make some fucking phone calls or send some emails.

 

WE ALL MUST BE UNITED IN THIS FIGHT.

146 @114 I like that! Of course, it's not legal in some states, even if you do it with a flame-weeder (otc purchase at your friendly big box retailer).

147 Biden and his task force are slated to hold meeting this week with victims of gun violence, gun safety groups, hunting groups, and gun owners Really? The invitations must be lost in the mail.

148
oh crap.

149 Bad stuff is going to happen over the next four years. I personally think there is a large effort to scrap the Constitution, paving the way for Obama to have a Chavez-style presidency. Ugh.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 08, 2013 06:31 PM (GoIUi)

I believe the answer ends with "from my cold dead hands." It may get ugly, but the Constitution will stand. Bubba will rise again before this is over and he ain't in the mood to give up his constitutional rights.

150  We would be much safer if we could control Democrats...

151
It may look like an organized, highly coordinated effort, but for the most part it's just fellow travelers doing what they're already predisposed to do.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 08, 2013 06:30 PM (SY2Kh)

Oh, so NOW you understand it?  Funny, when I was trying to explain this about the eligibility issue,  you kept insisting that I (et al) had to be a conspiracy nut.

Nope, no conspiracy.  Just people with like minds doing what they thought was most appropriate. 

152 Posted by: General Woundwort at January 08, 2013 06:10 PM (RrD4h) I do not have a gun, but General WW, you are correct, NOT EVERY KNEE WILL BEND! NONE OF US HERE WILL BEND AT THE SCOAMT!

153 Rated (I) - Don't watch if you're insane

154 they aren't going to ban all guns, just make sure the "wrong people" don't get them.  Like vets.

155

I heard the "professor" say that the Constitution needs to be scrapped.  After all we all believe in universal ideas like free speech and the right to bear arms.  Then he mentioned that the UK does not have a Constitution.

 

And in the UK, there is no free speech and the law abiding people are disarmed.

 

Game, set, match.

156 USAToday had a cover story trying to spread the meme that Trayvonite was a little darling. Conservative Tree House has laid a compelling case that his parents had minimal involvement in his life.

157 >>>would ban assault rifles

Fine. All rifles must have a wooden stock. Happy? They don't look so scary now.

158 Bad stuff is going to happen over the next four years. I personally think there is a large effort to scrap the Constitution, paving the way for Obama to have a Chavez-style presidency. Ugh. Posted by: Miss Marple at January 08, 2013 06:31 PM (GoIUi) They certainly seem to be pushing for it. Well, guess it's time for everyone to gun up... wait, looks like they already did that. Maybe people aren't quite as stupid as they seem.

159 @139 I think that's a fair reading of our domestic situation. I'd only add the funny money issue, and relentless promotion of cultural rot in mass media. Add the international (with monetary and energy concerns added to the security) concerns. Plus, the SMOD. People, cling to your guns and religion. You could wind up saving everyone who wants to be.

160 OR: Dat Be Racist, an shit!! Fo' shizzle my nizzle!

161 #85

Simple. They are at war. They've been assembling infrastructure for decades awaiting the right opportunity to deploy it with minor adjustments to make it specific to whatever incident supplies the casus belli. It is how the DoD operates but in this case the goal is the destruction of the nation rather than its defense.

The ObamaCare doorstop has been revised and updated on frequent basis ever since they previously tried to use it as HillaryCare. That 2700 page behemoth didn't come out of nowhere. You can find similar bodies of legislative text ready to go for nearly any leftist cause.

If something happened to make the Administration think they had a shot at outlawing the burning of coal this year, there would be a first draft of the legislation dusted off and circulating within the week.

162
I do not have a gun, but General WW, you are correct, NOT EVERY KNEE WILL BEND! NONE OF US HERE WILL BEND AT THE SCOAMT!

Posted by: CarolT at January 08, 2013 06:36 PM (z4WKX)

I think they are planning on people dying from old age while the new skulls full of mush who don't know any better take over without the oldster notions of Honor, Freedom and Patriotism.

163 Someone should ask Nick Searcy about how many people in Hwd really do own guns. I'll bet a ton. It's a lot easier to be famous these days than rich. And that brings the stalkers. A gun is a LOT cheaper than a bodyguard.

164
And in the UK, there is no free speech and the law abidingpeople are disarmed.

Game, set, match.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 08, 2013 06:37 PM (tVTLU)

The funny thing is, the Muslims are going to wipe them out eventually.  And they will deserve it!!

165 Here's the problem.

As long as the Senate agrees to rubber stamp the tyrant, no matter what he does, then a tyrant we have. No recourse for TFGs illegal action exists beyond impeachment. The Senate could sit back and let him take over the government.

166

conservatives think the facts speak for themselves and don't want to tell people what to think.

 

liberals don't care about the facts and insist you think as they do

 

167 How does a gun buy back work, are they offering more than you could get on gunbroker.com?

168 liberals don't care about the facts and insist you think as they do You left out that they are impervious to reality...but yeah...what he said.

169

Diogenes,

 

I do not like them in general, but they are too close to our history to wish that fate on.  People are waking up, especially the youth, in Germany and France.

 

I think the unwelcome masses may be in for a bit of a surprise in Europe, but perhaps that is just hopeful thinking.

170 @168 !

171 say fuck them or fuck this or fuck that all you want, we are losing this battle and will lose it. I'm getting angry even at you guys for just bitching about it, but only because you're my friends and i don't want to see any of you fucked over either. we need to do more than bitch and we have to do it before anything comes up for a vote and it can't be just writing and joining NRA or whatever. i suggested a general strike, larger than just moron nation, but there's no bites anywhere. thats a simple and small thing to just stay home for a day, not even a hardship. talking shit about cold dead hands is BS. people won't do shit but obey is how i read it.

172 The Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired on September 13, 2004, as part of the law's sunset provision. There have been multiple attempts to renew the ban,^[1] but no bill has reached the House floor for a vote.

173
pssst......

see drudge current headline

174 I think they are planning on people dying from old age while the new skulls full of mush who don't know any better take over without the oldster notions of Honor, Freedom and Patriotism. Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 08, 2013 06:40 PM (bb5+k) I think they are annoyed and flummoxed that it hasn't happened already.

175 daughter doing homework.  Had to list 5 things the government does that impacts her life.  She asked if you got insurance from the government and if you got jobs from the government.  I can understand how she might think that.  The world has changed.  I told her that she owes the government at least 27,000 today that the government has already spent.  She didn't get it.  I have to try harder.

176

Mikethemoose:

 

We always have the recourse that Jefferson and our founding fathers envisioned.  The ultimate check.

 

But before that, the House can simply defund any crazy shit that he tries to do.

 

GOP better realize where we are on this.  No fucking compromises, period.

177 Is .60 a round a good price for 5.56 M855?

178 You know,  I'll bet Joe Biden has crapped his pants more than a few times at the White House.

179 All of us should refuse to spend one nickel to go see a film but one of the Hollyweird leftwards, eventually they won't be able to demand millions for a movie and they won't be able to keep up with their fancy homes, bodyguards (with guns) and this will take care of that crowd. I haven't gone to a movie since one of my friends dragged me to see Evita! That was in the late 1990s.

180 Is .60 a round a good price for 5.56 M855? Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 08, 2013 06:45 PM (QupBk) Mad rush buying, yes, pre crazy buying? no.

181 169 How does a gun buy back work, are they offering more than you could get on gunbroker.com? Posted by: Jean at January 08, 2013 06:42 PM (LnQr The primary "customers" are thieves getting rid of stolen goods, thugs getting rid of crime weapons, gun dealers and collectors getting rid of crap they can't sell, and the occasional clueless lefty who inherited some item from a relative.

182

Uterus Cannon:

 

I was just involved in the absolute flood of response to the crazy shit they did in Illinois.

 

This is the FIRST TIME I have ever done such a thing.  It felt GREAT to defeat the measures and have the politicians wonder what the fuck happened.

 

We can do it.  It starts somewhere.  Momentum is only built when something STARTS FUCKING MOVING.

 

So get off your ass, join the NRA, start the fight everywhere every front.  Andrew Breitbart was legendary in his understanding of this.

 

Fuck you.  War.

Molon Labe.

183 Mad rush buying, yes, pre crazy buying? no. What was it before? I only bought M2-Ball before.

184 The ObamaCare doorstop has been revised and updated on frequent basis ever since they previously tried to use it as HillaryCare.
Posted by: epobirs

Try earlier. Try Teddy Roosevelt.

185 This will certainly clearup any failures in identification friend or foe (IFF)

186 @168

As I have said before, logic and reason are not at play here.

There is not a law or series of laws if enacted, that could have prevented what happened at Sandy Hook.

So they will ban "assault weapons" so instead of using the scary rifle, he now uses the handguns he brought with him.

So now instead of having a 30 round clip he now has three ten round clips that take all of 1.5 seconds to swap.

I guess in the lefts fevered imagination it would have given the room of scared 6 and 7 year old's time to gather their nerve and courage to bum rush Lanza and overpower him.

LIBERALS ARE NOT JUST STUPID THEY ARE DANGEROUSLY STUPID!

187 talking shit about cold dead hands is BS. people won't do shit but obey is how i read it. Let's face it, no one knows what they will do until they do it. It's like combat in that regard. Guys you thought would be the next General Patton fall apart like a cheap suit. Guys you thought were epic pussies end up winning the Silver Star. Sooner or later everyone gets their shit together. There is no predicting who does what until it happens. If you claim to know otherwise, you're full of shit.

188 pssst...... see drudge current headline Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 08, 2013 06:45 PM (p/cQy) That changes all the time. People love to refer to or link to drudge, but you never have any idea what they're talking about because it could change any minute.

189 pssst...... see drudge current headline Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 08, 2013 06:45 PM (p/cQy) That changes all the time. People love to refer to or link to drudge, but you never have any idea what they're talking about because it could change any minute.

190 #181

Keep in mind you also have to avoid home video rentals and purchases, and nearly all TV, broadcast or subscriber.

I pretty much get all of my entertainment material from torrents and reserve payments for those situation where I can directly send a few buck to someone I think is deserving.

191 For the end of the previous thred, if they want a gun violence law, give them one, both barrels: Seriously, somebody make a list of every Dim in a district or state won by Bush, McCain, or Romney up for election in 2014, write an alternative gun law: mandate shall issue and reciprocity, make gun-free zones require specific Congressional designation, mandate any school receiving Federal funds have full time, armed security manned by law enforcement or combat veterans, etc, then offer those Dims an opportunity to co-sponsor the bill. If they don't co-sponsor, start the campaign barrage now.

192 Yeah, that doubling was Pixy, not me. One click baby.

193 It is this simple: If you are a male, and you believe that disarming all people will lead to a peaceful society - you are no man. And that's where we're headed folks. When alexthechick has bigger, hairier balls that 60% of the males in America (manscaping notwithstanding) the line has already been crossed. Take a look at generation Z and behold how blurred the line between male and female is. Sam Elliot is rolling over in his fucking grave right now.* *may not be accurate due to Sam Elliot's life-status

194 Diogenes,

I do not like them in general, but they are too close to our history to wish that fate on. People are waking up, especially the youth, in Germany and France.

I think the unwelcome masses may be in for a bit of a surprise in Europe, but perhaps that is just hopeful thinking.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 08, 2013 06:43 PM (tVTLU)

I argue this issue with a guy from Austria and another guy from England from time to time.  One thing I point out is that Europe has so badly fucked itself with this Politically Correct nonsense, that it is reaching a point where they only way it will be able to save itself is by embracing religious intolerance.

It's going to have to start preventing immigration by Arab Muslims or they are going to take over the place. It's an Ugly answer, but that is seemingly what it is going to boil down to.

195 So, I say...whenever these gun-grabbers ask 'Why do people need high-capacity magazines?"...we say:
Because a crowd could "get angry about a video" and attack me, en masse.

Posted by: wheatie at January 08, 2013 06:25 PM (NN5fJ)

Good one.

196 If they do come for our guns, some good counter moves might be... Attacking Chicago. Keep them on their heels on their home turf. Those who can't leave for Chicago can occupy their nearest private liberal arts college (unless it's a Wheaton or something), remove the faculty, shut down student housing and feeding. Make them hitch-hike hungry to their ramparts, if any. When their SMART cars breakdown, the tow operators will refuse to hook anything with a "99%" bumper-sticker. Bolsheviks beached in the Bible-belt. Their media are more vulnerable than ours (chainsaws and TV towers). I have already subscribed (using the handy button in the upper left of this page) to the fur-cowl level upgrade, which includes carrier pigeon service for this smart military blog in the event of an EMP weapon attack.

197 I don't suppose they'll be strong arming the news media for their unbridled pee in their pants excitment and their hyena on a carcass descent on the locale whenever something like this happens.

198 *may not be accurate due to Sam Elliot's life-status So what you're saying is Sam Elliott's mileage may vary?

199 Drudge says Cuomo gonna announce the toughest gun laws in the nation.  This is my shocked face :0

200 #186

I didn't say it originated there, just that it was the time of the last big push to implement the plan. Before then there was a push from the Nixon administration which was fought tooth and nail by Ted Kennedy before he realized he was arbitrarily opposing Nixon on something he himself supported. Serves to show what the ditch diver really stood for.

201 I guess in the lefts fevered imagination it would have given the room of scared 6 and 7 year old's time to gather their nerve and courage to bum rush Lanza and overpower him.
LIBERALS ARE NOT JUST STUPID THEY ARE DANGEROUSLY STUPID!
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 08, 2013 06:49 PM (RrD4h)

They don't care about dead kids. They are using this opportunity to disarm everyone to retain power as they tighten the screws.

This has nothing to do with dead kids now or in the future.

C'mon now, read some history.

These are the abortion rights people, they don't even value human life over "saving" the planet.

Ends/Means

202 >>>But before that, the House can simply defund any crazy shit that he tries to do.

The House doesn't pay the bills. The Treasury department does.
The House doesn't arrest people. The Justice department does.


In the event that 34 Senators agree ideologically with a ends justify all means President, NO political relief exists to check the power of the President.

I'm quickly starting to see this as a weakness in the Constitution.

203 I argue this issue with a guy from Austria and another guy from England from time to time. One thing I point out is that Europe has so badly fucked itself with this Politically Correct nonsense, that it is reaching a point where they only way it will be able to save itself is by embracing religious intolerance. It's going to have to start preventing immigration by Arab Muslims or they are going to take over the place. It's an Ugly answer, but that is seemingly what it is going to boil down to. Sounds familiar.

204 If they do come for our guns, some good counter moves might be...
Attacking Chicago. Keep them on their heels on their home turf.
Posted by: Thorvald

They won't becoming for anything soon.

The corporatist approach will be used to harass, intimidate, and goad owners into giving up guns.

Stop thinking jackboots and knocks in the night.

Start thinking database mining, insurance companies, and banks.

205

My stupid eyes read the headline as Obama Lin Biden.

206 ok merv....current drudge headline about cuomo to announce sweeping gun control laws.

better?

207 NY Slimes shocked that juiceboxers not into gun control;

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/161148/

208

I got about twenty pounds of welding rod to go with my new arc welder, and at least 200 pounds of assorted bolts and nuts from a retired mechanic who has been working on cars all his life.

 

The only thing I'm missing for a decent home machine shop is a lathe. I am following the PurpA school of disaster prep. Of course that doesent include the small block and a couple of big block chevy motors and a couple of turbo 400 I've collected just because.

209

MiketheMoose:

 

There is that other Right in the Constitution that deals with tyranny in case we are faced with shit like that....

210

Odds and Ends...

 

The fact that elements of the entertainment industry are being invited to Obama's summit no doubt has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Obama's inauguration is currently underfunded, and not enough businesses/rich guys have donated to help pay for the whole thing.  Obama would never use the threat of political repercussions to "encourage" donations to help pay for his swearing in.  How could you even think of that!?

 

It is possible that the speed with which this whole thing is being assembled post-Sandy Hook is not a coincidence.  Assuming that Fast and Furious really was intended to provide an excuse to put new restrictions on guns, then something would have been in place to take advantage of that.  Said "something" would probably look an awful lot like what we're seeing now.

 

211 Actually, I believe Chicago and New York enacting extreme gun control laws is a wonderful opportunity. Nobody who cares about their freedom would live in those places as they currently are, so let them become shooting galleries for those who lead lives unconcerned with laws.

Let them be examples for the nation.

212 Sean - that ain't what I'm saying and you'd know it if you'd re-read it. Once a law is passed its OVER. The time is now, not "when the time comes". THIS is the hill. Come on. I know many, many of you went to the Tea Party rallies, the 912 rallies, just like I did. I'm not asking for much. I'm not demanding anything new. NRA is only ONE group that they already have the knives out for and a strategy for. We'll wake up one fine morning and it will be done. Then comes the blood, right? Thats what I'm saying to get in front of. Put another way: Ace talked about how the Left was wary of poking the bear, the Right, not being too obvious-Lefty because they feared we would wake up and tear their face off. Guess what? Didn't happen. Not going to at this rate.

213

C'mon guys, it's a win-win.  We confiscate all the redneck's guns and sell 'em to the cartels.

Revenue!

Then we tax the middle class American people into poverty.

Fairness!

Hmmm... what's that smell?  Joe would you puhlease go check your shorts again?

214 Drudge says Cuomo gonna announce the toughest gun laws in the nation. This is my shocked face :0

Posted by: thunderb at January 08, 2013 06:54 PM (Dnbau)

I guess that Supreme Court decision in McDonald v Chicago and the Heller v D.C.  decision aren't sinking in?

Any law will get immediately challenged and overturned by the Federal courts.  That is about the only GOOD thing that has come out of the Supreme Court in a very long time.

215 I love this from Drudge: WH: We pick Cabinet based on qualification not gender... Translation: Women are unqualified.

216
"Now on PBS - Weapons of Choice, a new six part documentary by filmmaker Ken Burns chronicling the role of guns in American History.

Tonight, Episode 1: A Shot Heard Round the World - White Europeans use assault muskets to do unpleasant things to minorities.  With Morgan Freeman as the voice of the Black guy, and Holly Hunter as the chick."

217 I bought m855 for $.38/rd in July

218 "216 Drudge says Cuomo gonna announce the toughest gun laws in the nation. This is my shocked face :0 Posted by: thunderb at January 08, 2013 06:54 PM (Dnbau) I guess that Supreme Court decision in McDonald v Chicago and the Heller v D.C. decision aren't sinking in? Any law will get immediately challenged and overturned by the Federal courts. That is about the only GOOD thing that has come out of the Supreme Court in a very long time. Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 08, 2013 07:00 PM (bb5+k) " Maybe it's just a tax...

219 UC, thanks for the clarification. I hear you.

220 what did he say about coal plants?  You can build one but they would tax the bejeesus out of it.  Same same

221 >>>Drudge says Cuomo gonna announce the toughest gun laws in the nation. This is my shocked face :0

Oh thank you Cuomo for wresting the baton of crazy from my states fingers. Now I get to point and laugh from California. How refreshing.

222 WH: We pick Cabinet based on qualification not gender...

Translation: Women are unqualified.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 08, 2013 07:01 PM (/F/D

That would be the headlines in the New York Times, and broadcast on 24/7 endless loop in the broadcast media if this were a Republican President.

223

MUMR:

 

Fucking laugh out loud funny.  Have a good one morans...  And one more thing:

 

 

Marco Rubio-Tom Cotton 2016!!!!!!!!!!!

224 Tomorrow, Jan 9, 2013, is the centennial of the birth of Richard Nixon

225 "225 MUMR: Fucking laugh out loud funny. Have a good one morans... And one more thing: Marco Rubio-Tom Cotton 2016!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: Prescient11 at January 08, 2013 07:06 PM (tVTLU) " You're going to have to troll harder next time.

226

I guess that Supreme Court decision in McDonald v Chicago and the Heller v D.C. decision aren't sinking in?

Any law will get immediately challenged and overturned by the Federal courts.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp





McDonald v Chicago - 5/4 decision
District of Columbia v. Heller - 5/4 decision

Now excuse me while I whip this out....

Posted by: Justice Roberts

227 Nick Searcy post bumped

228 Perhaps the President was praying for an incident like Newtown. Certainly his supporters think him uniquely heavenly favored. Perhaps Newtown is an offering gift from the Father, so the Great Man can show his greatness.

229 That's what she said!!!

230 The Cuomo story: A deal to give New York one of the toughest gun control laws in the nation is being negotiated by Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who, sources said Tuesday, is hoping to announce the plan Wednesday during his State of the State speech in Albany. Cuomo hopes to jump-start the 2013 legislative session with a big deal that could dramatically alter gun control laws across the state.

231 bcochran, yeah that was weird.  justified is ok and all.  and glad there's a famous moran.

232 "Someone should ask Nick Searcy about how many people in Hwd really do own guns. "

Those who don't own guns have John Milius' number on speed dial.

233 "231 That's what she said!!! Posted by: Prescient11 at January 08, 2013 07:09 PM (tVTLU)" Your mom?

234
McDonald v Chicago - 5/4 decision
District of Columbia v. Heller - 5/4 decision

Now excuse me while I whip this out....

Posted by: Justice Roberts

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 08, 2013 07:08 PM (kdS6q)

Ah, but the decision is already made.  The Supremes are usually loath to overturn a recent decision they have already made. It implies they didn't know what the hell they were doing the first time around.  Might be true, but they don't want the public to ridicule them.

Beyond that, it is going to be hard to walk that dog back.

235

Jay,

 

Thank God the rest of Illinois outside Chicago is like Indiana.  I think New Yorkers might be screwed though, at least legislatively.

236 Your mom.

237 "233 bcochran, yeah that was weird. justified is ok and all. and glad there's a famous moran. Posted by: Prescient11 at January 08, 2013 07:10 PM (tVTLU) " Why are you still here?

238 @204 The Founders did not leave us without remedies for that. For example, the 2A was, and is, about tyrants. God forbid. Short of bloodshed, and short of fomenting rebellion, the fact that there are-- what? 100 million?-- many angry, armed people concerned that our elected leaders do what they're supposed to do, derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, may by itself help to stiffen the resolve of those elected leaders to do the right thing.

239 Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 08, 2013 06:47 PM (QupBk) Is it the green tip M885.

240 "238 Your mom. Posted by: Prescient11 at January 08, 2013 07:11 PM (tVTLU) " What about her?

241 Don't worry everyone.  I'm a tough negotiator.

242 OT Nathan Fillion opens his yap and ruins Firefly.

243

OT

Polish prosecutors have opened an investigation into a Swedish artistÂ’s claim that he used the ashes of Holocaust victims to make a painting.

The artist, Carl Michael Hausswolf, wrote on the website of a gallery in Lund, Sweden, last year that he made a painting using ashes that he took from crematorium furnaces in Majdanek, a former Nazi German death camp located in eastern Poland, on a visit there in 1989

244 244 OT Nathan Fillion opens his yap and ruins Firefly. Posted by: steevy at January 08, 2013 07:14 PM (9XBK2) ???????

245 OT Nathan Fillion opens his yap and ruins Firefly.

Posted by: steevy at January 08, 2013 07:14 PM (9XBK2)

Adam Baldwin redeems it.

246 Is .60 a round a good price for 5.56 M855?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 08, 2013 06:45 PM (QupBk) 

 

Is that what 5.56x45 has gotten up to? Jiminy Christmas.

 

And if you can, stay away from the M855/SS109 stuff. That is made to go through lightly armored targets. Not the best stuff for home defense (it has a mild steel penetrator in it that could go further than you want, and do less damage to a close in target). The M193 55 grain stuff is better. And if you have the barrel twist rate (1-7 or 1- the 69 grain stuff is perfect.

247 Prescient11, I don't know how you live in IL! Luckily I'm in PA - Though it's the sixth-largest state, Pennsylvania has the second-largest rural population, trailing only Texas. It has 925,000 licensed hunters. There are a SHITLOAD of guns in this state.

248 Make that 1-8 twist rate. Forgot 8 + ) =

249 And most indoor ranges won't let you shoot green tips.

250 Do I have to register my firearms in Pennsylvania? No, in fact in Pennsylvania it is actually illegal for any government or police agency to keep a registry of firearms per 18 Pa.C.S. § 6111.4 (Registration of firearms). If you legally possess bring your firearms into the Pennsylvania or come into possession of the firearms legally, no further action is required.

251 now we know where New Yorkers will get their guns.  From PA

252 246 Sorry,left out the explanation.

253 Grrr didn't work.He's boycotting Wendy's because they are cutting workers hours over Obamacare.

254 208 ok merv....current drudge headline about cuomo to announce sweeping gun control laws. better? Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 08, 2013 06:56 PM (p/cQy) Yes and the only good thing about it (as mentioned above) is hitting the courts. We haven't won *all* the gun cases, but the only part of government that's been rolling back these idiot laws are the courts - even in Illinois and California. When the Ninth Circus tells you you're abusing government power, you've gone way, way, way too far. And they have. The downside is a lot of wasted effort in the meantime.

255 255 Grrr didn't work.He's boycotting Wendy's because they are cutting workers hours over Obamacare. Posted by: steevy at January 08, 2013 07:22 PM (9XBK2) So, if they went out of business because of increased costs, he wouldn't boycott them.

256 Last nights feel good story: three thugs break into house in Colorado Springs. One in critical condition, one in stable condition and the third is probably self treating the soles of his feet for burns due to high speed get away on foot.

257 253 now we know where New Yorkers will get their guns. From PA Posted by: thunderb at January 08, 2013 07:20 PM (Dnbau) Or from the BATF.

258 Ronster, There was a third? Accuracy in media, pffft.

259 257 Reflexive left wing stupidity.Cunt Sarah Silverman also attacked Wendy's.

260 I am so sorry you guys all lost your guns. I sold mine for a nice profit to some guy on Craig's List. The one with the peace sign icon.

261

Ronster,

There was a third?

Accuracy in media, pffft.

 

That is what I read, also heard on the radio.

262 Is it the green tip M885. Yes. SS109 Green Tip. 1000RD box for $575 + shipping.

263
Highly placed sources said that Cuomo is negotiating with Assembly and Senate leaders for a package of gun control laws that would be a dramatic response to the gun violence besetting the nation,





NY Senate Republicans selling out, are they?

264 >>>NY Senate Republicans selling out, are they? Of course. I've got to find a secure storage facility in PA now. FML

265

262 I am so sorry you guys all lost your guns. I sold mine for a nice profit to some guy on Craig's List.

 

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Which I'm sure you'll report on the Income from Evilness line of your 1040, right?

 

266 Well, the MSM is on full bore tonight on gun shit.  Every channel has Brady.

267 guess that Supreme Court decision in McDonald v Chicago and the Heller v D.C. decision aren't sinking in? Any law will get immediately challenged and overturned by the Federal courts. Posted by: DiogenesLamp -------------------------- The professional LEFT uses taxpayer money to push their ideology via the courts. THIS is why the attorney's love them some Democrats.

268

217 I love this from Drudge:

WH: We pick Cabinet based on qualification not gender...

 

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It's a shame they weren't organized to make up a set of binders full of qualified women.

 

269 268 They smell blood.After the re election of chocolate jesus they think there is nothing they can't do.I hope to God they overreach but I have no confidence in the American people anymore.

270

I expect as this boycott of Wendy's progresses by the "beautiful people", the profits will increase. See Chick-Fil-A.

271 Luvs me some  Wendy's spicy crispy chicken sandwiches from their dollar menu. 

272 Nate Fillion needs to lay off the burger anyway. He's too fat and it adds at least a decade to his looks.

273 272 Didn't the Wendy's bitch come out against CFA though?

274 I have no idea, steevy.

275 I'm not a big fast food guy anyway. I'm a pretty good cook.

276 Anybody know legality of storing guns in another state long-term?

277

272 Didn't the Wendy's bitch come out against CFA though? Posted by: steevy at January 08, 2013 07:50 PM (9XBK2)

 

 Yes, she did - which is why I'm delighted they're now catching flack.

 

So, Wendy's, now you know what the wrath of the PC crowd feels like....GOOD!

278 Bring it on Bambi.

279

I hope this all backfires (pun intended).

I've been pro-2nd amendment my entire adult life. But it wasn't until Obama started talking about this gun grab that I (1) joined the NRA; (2) purchased a 12 gauge shotgun; (3) purchased a 9 MM handgun; and (4) applied for a concealed carry permit.

My guess is that I'm not alone.

Ditto here plus 4 friends.  That's five in my itty bitty circle.

280 Not sure why they'd need to threaten the media into providing support, they seem to be doing that already willingly...

281 "I hope this all backfires (pun intended). I've been pro-2nd amendment my entire adult life. But it wasn't until Obama started talking about this gun grab that I (1) joined the NRA; (2) purchased a *****; (3) purchased a *****; and (4) applied for a *******permit. My guess is that I'm not alone." You guess correctly

282 PREDICTION: Plenty more kung fu and historical action movies/games with swords and axes...guns... not so much.