December 02, 2013

Obamacare Working Great, Except It Still Doesn't Do Any of the Tasks It's Supposed to Do
— Ace

From JWF, the minor improvements in the front end only serve to exacerbate the huge problems on the back end.

Despite the Obama administration’s claim that HealthCare.gov is “vastly improved,” insurance companies are still grappling with error-riddled files fed to them from the flawed website. The lingering glitch could cause major problems weeks down the road, resulting in people thinking they’ve signed up when insurance companies have no record of them doing so.

These so-called “back-end” problems were largely glossed over when federal health officials confidently claimed over the weekend they had met their own goals for improving the website by Dec. 1.


...

Jeff Zients, the official appointed to fix the ObamaCare site since its disastrous Oct. 1 rollout, said it is “night and day from what it was.”

But insurers continue to deal with the same set of problems that have shaken their confidence for weeks in the system they have to rely on to enroll new customers.

“Until the enrollment process is working from end-to-end, many consumers will not be able to enroll in coverage,” Karen Ignagni, president of America’s Health Insurance Plans, said in a statement.

...

“This is not a functioning website yet,” James Capretta, senior fellow with the Ethics and Public Policy Center, told Fox News.

What the insurers are doing is hand-checking and hand-fixing of these mistakes. Which they can do, so long as there are not many forms to fix. But if Obama gets his wish and Obamacare "selections" ramp up, the manual fixing of error-riddled 834's will not be possible. The whole point of automating data is to take the limiting choke-point of slow human hands out of the process.

It's especially a problem for those who hope to have insurance by January 1st -- those kicked off their plans despite Obama's repeated assertions that "if you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period" and that if you have insurance, "you don't have to do anything at all."

Well, those people not only have to fight with a system that still can't enroll people, but they might also have to go without insurance for a few months.

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1 1st?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 02, 2013 10:12 AM (JSOLr)

2 Clearly they are just too gloomy and want the website to fail.

Posted by: steevy at December 02, 2013 10:12 AM (zqvg6)

3 Whoa, sure does echo in here...

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 02, 2013 10:12 AM (JSOLr)

4 It's all your negativity-rays, wingnutz.

Posted by: Politico at December 02, 2013 10:13 AM (7ObY1)

5 The website back-end isn't "nonfunctional."  The search results are "hand-crafted."

Posted by: The WH Office of Communications at December 02, 2013 10:13 AM (8ZskC)

6

My prediction?  P A I N

Posted by: Barry 'Clubber Lang' Soetoro at December 02, 2013 10:14 AM (Pr6hk)

7 young man, what did we just tell you about complainers???

Posted by: Mallfly at December 02, 2013 10:14 AM (bJm7W)

8 Not the first time I've heard the "backend isn't functional" excuse.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 02, 2013 10:14 AM (7ObY1)

9 It's gonna be a long time before they're out of the pipe.

Posted by: Andy Dufresne at December 02, 2013 10:15 AM (Pr6hk)

10 The bigger of a mess this thing makes of Democrat voter's lives, the better are the chances that it will be in the long term best interests of the nation. The only way to solve problems nowadays is to let the stupid people get burned. My condolences to those of *US* who have to participate in this stupid voter learning experience.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 02, 2013 10:16 AM (bb5+k)

11 *crickets*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 02, 2013 10:16 AM (GjPnA)

12 Not the first time I've heard the "backend isn't functional" excuse. Oh My!

Posted by: George Takei at December 02, 2013 10:16 AM (jdRXP)

13 The Regime should solve the volume issue by limiting access to 404care to a single computer terminal.  It could be conveniently located in the National Archives.

In fact, they wouldn't even need a computer.  They could have a guy standing there with a clipboard and a cellphone.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 02, 2013 10:16 AM (8ZskC)

14 Just wait till all those "enrollees" find out they do not really have insurance because the carrier never got paid--and thusly the contract was never completed. It ain't gonna be one bit purty. It will make Mooch in the Morning without wig, paint or primer applied look good--damn good.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 02, 2013 10:17 AM (JSOLr)

15 Only a Democrat would ruin medical insurance for 85% of the people to 'improve' things for the 15%, when half of those are illegal immigrants or people who make enough money to 'self insure'

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 02, 2013 10:17 AM (Pr6hk)

16 I've forgetten the exact quote, but a clip of congressjackass Keith Ellison was shown on FOX news this morning, in which he was talking about Obama's promise the "if you like your quality insurance..."
I guess the Dems and their flunkies in the MSM are thinking that if they repeat the line differently enough times, people will forget what His Majestry actually said.

oh, here's a bit form Newsbusters:

Being a leftist of the Obama ilk, you have to assume that Congressman Keith Ellison thought he was doing President Obama a favor in offering his interpretation of the president's "if you like your plan, you can keep it" line, as well as his subsequent non-apology apology.

But on today's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos," Ellison wound up putting words in the president's mouth that quite literally added insult to injury.  Ellison first falsely claimed that Pres. Obama had said "if you like your decent insurance, your insurance that works, then you can keep it." Obama of course never said any such thing. Moreover, according to Ellison, by his apology Obama meant "if you misunderstood what I was trying to say, I'm sorry."  So the fault lies not with Obama for having blatantly misled the American people. No, it's those ignorant Americans—too dense to dig the real meaning of the great man's words—who are to blame.

Posted by: Mallfly at December 02, 2013 10:18 AM (bJm7W)

17 The only way to solve problems nowadays is to let the stupid people get burned. As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man- There are only four things certain since Social Progress began:- That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wobbling back to the Fire; And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins, As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn, The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

Posted by: Rudyard Kipling at December 02, 2013 10:18 AM (UAMVq)

18 Government cheese was a huge success, so to shall Obamacare be. So let it be written, so let it be done - Barakanahten

Posted by: The Jackhole at December 02, 2013 10:18 AM (nTgAI)

19

These so-called “back-end” problems were largely glossed over when federal health officials confidently claimed over the weekend they had met their own goals for improving the website by Dec. 1.


I'm not even buying this.

Posted by: Gregory Potemkin at December 02, 2013 10:18 AM (8ZskC)

20 The Obamacare website is working perfectly.

Because they said it would be working by December.

It is December.

Ergo, it is working perfectly, tovaritch

Posted by: AmishDude at December 02, 2013 10:19 AM (T0NGe)

21 I saw Back-End Problems open up for Frankie Goes to Hollywood at a club in the Village

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at December 02, 2013 10:19 AM (Pr6hk)

22 Even when I promised just the tip, she still claimed the backend was non-functional.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 02, 2013 10:20 AM (7ObY1)

23 21 The Obamacare website is working perfectly. Because they said it would be working by December. It is December. Ergo, it is working perfectly, tovaritch --- Da, but they did not say December of what year, comrade.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 02, 2013 10:20 AM (/Crba)

24 Keef Ellison is a circle fly par excellance. Using the Olberman spelling as an homage to both of them.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 02, 2013 10:21 AM (JSOLr)

25 don't tell Reggie about any back end problems.

Posted by: Mallfly at December 02, 2013 10:21 AM (bJm7W)

26 I blame my negative mind rays

Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 10:21 AM (zOTsN)

27 23 Even when I promised just the tip, she still claimed the backend was non-functional. --- Yeah, Carol tells me that a lot.

Posted by: Sterling Mallory Archer at December 02, 2013 10:21 AM (/Crba)

28 things working is for pussies...

//Rube F Goldberg Perfesser Emeritus at the Obama Institute.


Posted by: sven10077 at December 02, 2013 10:21 AM (9jfyN)

29
In Related News:  No Fucking Standing Mr. Sitter McSitdown

http://tinyurl.com/pkxf6uk

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 02, 2013 10:22 AM (caCiW)

30 Depends how you look at it He's a back end half full kind of guy

Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 10:22 AM (zOTsN)

31 From JWF, the minor improvements in the front end only serve to exacerbate the huge problems on the back end. This also applies to the media obsession with Michelle's toned arms.

Posted by: wooga at December 02, 2013 10:22 AM (yZyH0)

32 For those keeping score:

I have been using my wife's profile (I am over 65) since Healthdestruction.gov first came on line to see how it goes.  Sorry, Mr. President, but it is more useless than last month.

Posted by: Jim Gwathmey at December 02, 2013 10:22 AM (ZgL2w)

33 31 Depends how you look at it He's a back end half full kind of guy Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 02:22 PM (zOTsN) You can say that again!

Posted by: Reggie Love at December 02, 2013 10:22 AM (UAMVq)

34 28 23 Even when I promised just the tip, she still claimed the backend was non-functional.
---
Yeah, Carol tells me that a lot.

Posted by: Sterling Mallory Archer at December 02, 2013 02:21 PM (/Crba)

Obamacare is the world's largest buttplug.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 02, 2013 10:23 AM (T0NGe)

35 Didn't Ploufe say it would work great in 2017, yesterday?

Posted by: Harry Reid at December 02, 2013 10:23 AM (8vRuS)

36 Surely there must be a Nobel Prize for web design.

Posted by: USA at December 02, 2013 10:23 AM (VIaw0)

37 If this was Amazon, your online order would go to a guy sitting in his van in the post office parking lot.  He would write out your order by hand and drop it in the mailbox.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 02, 2013 10:23 AM (8ZskC)

38 problems?

I thought the proper term was 'sub optimal'?

It's changed back?

Posted by: Well of Care Depleted at December 02, 2013 10:23 AM (Vo2ov)

39 See what my racist hatred of this black president hath wrought? Bow down before the power of my racist mind-bullets, libtards, lest I summon the Power of Misogyny and give the Lily Ledbetter Act four across the lip with my Astrally Projected Pimp Hand!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2013 10:23 AM (CJjw5)

40 A semi-functional website for a non-functional program from a dysfunctional government.

What's not to love?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 02, 2013 10:23 AM (wtvvX)

41

The latest line from the White House is:

 

 Â“The team is operating with private sector velocity and effectiveness.”

 

For once they're telling the truth!   It's working as well as Solyndra did.

Posted by: I'm the honey Badger, BITCH! at December 02, 2013 10:24 AM (x2bTX)

42 patientmolestersockOFF

Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2013 10:24 AM (8vRuS)

43 36 Didn't Ploufe say it would work great in 2017, yesterday? Why yes, yes he did.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 02, 2013 10:24 AM (UAMVq)

44 hey, imagine the IRS  and progressive groups  website upgrades needed when people are put on lists for not signing up for this signature legislation.

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:24 AM (nqBYe)

45 Just wait till all those "enrollees" find out they do not really have insurance because the carrier never got paid--and thusly the contract was never completed.[/ii]

Won't be the first time the O administration has rewritten contracts between businesses and individuals.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 02, 2013 10:24 AM (/kI1Q)

46 Oh, the back end is functional all right... Just gotta push the data hard enough to get it thru the bottleneck.

Posted by: Reggie Love at December 02, 2013 10:24 AM (dLyLH)

47 33 For those keeping score: I have been using my wife's profile (I am over 65) since Healthdestruction.gov first came on line to see how it goes. Sorry, Mr. President, but it is more useless than last month. --- Hey, you now end up on Medicare 10,000% faster than last month!

Posted by: Barry McFuckstick at December 02, 2013 10:24 AM (/Crba)

48 It is an example of monumental folly and the denial is most extraordinary even by Washington D.C. standards.  I wonder if there is any reality harsh enough to break through that level of delusion?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 02, 2013 10:24 AM (hLRSq)

49 Website: you keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at December 02, 2013 10:24 AM (1hM1d)

50 Some lib on msnbc said how many improvements 404care had. When asked if he got on the site he said the access button put him back to the beginning of the site. lean forward

Posted by: redenzo at December 02, 2013 10:24 AM (Spvbn)

51 I love the focus on the website. Implies that once it's really and truly fixed, as in fully functional, our problems will be over - as opposed to just beginning.

Posted by: JPS at December 02, 2013 10:24 AM (9ziuC)

52 35 AmishDude at December 02, 2013 02:23 PM (T0NGe)

I'll take that challenge~!

//J effin' Carney

Posted by: sven10077 at December 02, 2013 10:24 AM (9jfyN)

53
Its like the dems don't even realize that its not just the people kicked off of their insurance, its the absolute huge premium increases that envelopes everyone else that this thing will reach critical mass.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 02, 2013 10:25 AM (caCiW)

54 47 Oh, the back end is functional all right... Just gotta push the data hard enough to get it thru the bottleneck. --- OK, now I need to dig up that "stock footage" from Drawn Together of the train pushing in hard on a tunnel, which starts to bleed...

Posted by: Tim Timmerson aka Captain Hero at December 02, 2013 10:25 AM (/Crba)

55 "Well, those people not only have to fight with a system that still can't enroll people, but they might also have to go without insurance for a few months." ....And pay His Honorable Buttfuck John Fucking Roberts' tax for the privilege. Homeboy best hope him and I never meet.

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at December 02, 2013 10:25 AM (93zXY)

56 We're going to see real people die from this experience and despite what George Will says about all hell breaking loose once companies drop insurance, the real storm is going to hit once the first person who was dropped from insurance dies because of their lack of coverage.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at December 02, 2013 10:26 AM (Lljg2)

57 42 The latest line from the White House is: “The team is operating with private sector velocity and effectiveness.” For once they're telling the truth! It's working as well as Solyndra did. I don't consider Solyndra private sector. More of an exercise in corporatism.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 02, 2013 10:26 AM (UAMVq)

58 Obama Care the original "fucker upper".

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 02, 2013 10:26 AM (0FSuD)

59 Just wait till all those "enrollees" find out they do not really have insurance because the carrier never got paid--and thusly the contract was never completed. It ain't gonna be one bit purty. They voted for it......

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2013 10:27 AM (xZxMD)

60 F*ck it, we'll do it live!!!

Posted by: ObamaCare Administrator at December 02, 2013 10:27 AM (4/o9U)

61 "so.

is that light i see headed straight for our rearend optimal or not?"
the American people.

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:27 AM (nqBYe)

62 The hilarious thing is that the front end is the EASY part. And they're declaring victory because the front end is "night and day" better than before. Often what happens in software projects is the production team does a "mock-up" of what the software is going to look like. They put in fake data and let the end users play with it. They demo that mock-up and make sure that people like the flow and the interface and all that. The danger is the people looking at that go back and declare it's "Nearly Finished". But all the real work is yet to be done. So once the mock-up looks right and has all the necessary features, then the business logic and databases and messaging and all that gets put in. That's the bulk of the time and project. So basically they're at the "Our mock-up basically looks right and we're working through the back-end bugs at this point" stage. It's not impressive, at all.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 02, 2013 10:27 AM (sByIH)

63 BREAKING: Taking cue from Amazon, Administration working on special drone delivery service for customers not happy with website experience.

Posted by: USA at December 02, 2013 10:27 AM (VIaw0)

64 Airbrushing obamacare. But, of course.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 02, 2013 10:27 AM (IXrOn)

65 I know dozens of  Web Sites.

Posted by: Jay Carney at December 02, 2013 10:27 AM (8vRuS)

66 Hey, stop it with the........ http://tinyurl.com/b3cdol

Posted by: Jay Carney at December 02, 2013 10:28 AM (0FSuD)

67 58 42 The latest line from the White House is: “The team is operating with private sector velocity and effectiveness.” For once they're telling the truth! It's working as well as Solyndra did. I don't consider Solyndra private sector. More of an exercise in corporatism. --- I think they also declared the team sent in to fix this clusterfuck as a "Tiger Team". At which point Biden ordered them a bunch of tiger outfits...

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 02, 2013 10:28 AM (/Crba)

68

Daddycare  is   working  so  shut  up.  Stupid  serfs  with  wrong  opinions.

Posted by: Sasha in DC at December 02, 2013 10:28 AM (/1ATA)

69 So the insurance is being corrected by hand? What a coincidence, the death panels will be done by hand, too!!!

Posted by: ObamaCare Administrator at December 02, 2013 10:28 AM (4/o9U)

70 David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog WANTED: unpaid intern to edit research on Walmart worker exploitation. Also, light yardwork and janitorial. Must be able to lift 50 pounds.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 02, 2013 10:28 AM (ZPrif)

71 I like the part where you're mandated by law to purchase FailCare from a website that will not let you purchase it. And then you get fined for not purchasing it. Maybe I can hire these fucking geniuses to train my new puppy.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2013 10:28 AM (CJjw5)

72 Posted by: sans_sheriff at December 02, 2013 02:26 PM (Lljg2) The Obama administration already has the ads lined up about the evil insurance companies and their greed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2013 10:28 AM (BC6cY)

73 60 Just wait till all those "enrollees" find out they do not really have insurance because the carrier never got paid--and thusly the contract was never completed. It ain't gonna be one bit purty. They voted for it...... Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2013 02:27 PM (xZxMD) Yes, and f*ck every single one of 'em who did. Problem is that it screws everyone who did not vote for this shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 02, 2013 10:28 AM (UAMVq)

74 57 sans_sheriff at December 02, 2013 02:26 PM (Lljg2)

In observation of "the rules" allow me to say, "....."

Posted by: sven10077 at December 02, 2013 10:29 AM (9jfyN)

75

the real storm is going to hit once the first person who was dropped from insurance dies because of their lack of coverage.

 

I wouldn't bet on that.

Posted by: MSM at December 02, 2013 10:29 AM (NF2Bf)

76 Won't be the first time the O administration has rewritten contracts between businesses and individuals. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 02, 2013 02:24 PM (/kI1Q) That's true. It's one thing to screw over few hundred thousand folks at a time a la GM, but, millions upon millions? That's gonna leave a big old bruise.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 02, 2013 10:29 AM (JSOLr)

77 JPS, i actually am slightly piss'd all the focus is on the website while loss of jobs because of obamcare. loss of survivable working hours(29). COSTS of healthcare middle man ,and of course losing actual lives because of those 5-6 deciders on your personal value to the state,

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:29 AM (nqBYe)

78 Every time these Iranians or Arabs have sex, they are giving into the plot by the evil Joooos.

Posted by: Frankie Goes To Tehran at December 02, 2013 10:30 AM (e8kgV)

79 The problems with Ocare will be sustained by our new overlords  and the death panels.  It's going to take longer than just a few months to kill off 25 million "undesirables".

Posted by: Soona at December 02, 2013 10:30 AM (FtgP2)

80

“The team is operating with private sector velocity and effectiveness.” 

 

 

 

Wind Tunnel Testing has shown that my private sector velocity is being compromised by excess drag.  

 

Posted by: Sydney Leathers at December 02, 2013 10:30 AM (8vRuS)

81 >>I blame my negative mind rays Did you aim those at my motivation? Because that would explain a lot...00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 02, 2013 10:30 AM (SUKHu)

82 It will only get real wall to wall coverage when reporters employers start dropping their coverage Speaking of, WTF Kristin Powers? She looked awful this morning on Fox. Huge bags under her eyes, her hair didn't even look combed. Is she all right?

Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 10:31 AM (zOTsN)

83 81 Soona at December 02, 2013 02:30 PM (FtgP2)

"........."

Posted by: sven10077 at December 02, 2013 10:31 AM (9jfyN)

84 Look at the pretty curtain, behold my booming voice, and despair

Posted by: OZ! at December 02, 2013 10:31 AM (CMlD4)

85 Astrally Projected Pimp Hand I didn't see them open for anybody, I just think "Astrally Projected Pimp Hand" would be a great name for a German techno band.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 02, 2013 10:31 AM (7ObY1)

86 really should be named 'oh shit, care' for what you say when you get the bill.

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:31 AM (nqBYe)

87 80 Every time these Iranians or Arabs have sex, they are giving into the plot by the evil Joooos. Screwing goats is an evil Jooooish plot?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 02, 2013 10:31 AM (UAMVq)

88 Er, I did that on purpose to show my head hitting the keyboard?? That sounds better than "what the heck caused that???"

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 02, 2013 10:31 AM (SUKHu)

89 sans_sheriff

Just wait until hospitals start going broke because they don't get paid,

and vendor's who supply hospitals stop making deliveries because they don't get paid.

It's gonna be great.

Posted by: Well of Care Depleted at December 02, 2013 10:31 AM (Vo2ov)

90 85 Thunderb at December 02, 2013 02:31 PM (zOTsN)

K Pow is laboring under SCOAMFing out and paying the bill...

she's still a donk ass MOFO

Posted by: sven10077 at December 02, 2013 10:32 AM (9jfyN)

91 Whoever emwidened the blog, please report to the barrel.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 02, 2013 10:32 AM (UAMVq)

92 90 80 Every time these Iranians or Arabs have sex, they are giving into the plot by the evil Joooos. Screwing goats is an evil Jooooish plot? --- Only if they've been secretly infected with AIDS, like the one that got Arafat.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 02, 2013 10:32 AM (/Crba)

93 i'm looking slightly wide in the hips over here now.
i blame holidays and holydays

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:32 AM (nqBYe)

94

From JWF, the minor improvements in the front end only serve to exacerbate the huge problems on the back end.

 

 

THIS.  THis this this.   Making the frontend work sort of okay is only going to make things worse in the backend.  All it means is that MORE people are going to signup through the website, which means MORE data is going to end up in a glitchy, problem-prone backend   that's probably changing in small ways every single day.   That's   not a clusterfuck waiting to happen; that's a clusterfuck underway.

 

And if you think the fixes they're making to the backend are being done in a slow, considered, deliberate manner, you're a fool.  The time for considered deliberation    was BEFORE October 1st.   It's all CYA now.   What testing is being done is probably bare boned and   done on a shoestring before the "fixes" are patched into production.  Small groups are probably working in silos on their own pieces of the   backend puzzle, without sufficient time or communication to make sure that all those pieces work together as they should.  If there are backend schematics of table relationships and such, they're probably outdated by the end of each    day   and need to be   reproduced each morning.   And all the time the bureaucrats and politicians are hanging over the programmers' shoulders telling them to  hurry up, there's an election coming, and, "Don't you know who I am!?  You'll never work in this town again if you don't fix this YESTERDAY!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 02, 2013 10:32 AM (4df7R)

95 Seriously, didn't these clowns have THREE AND A HALF YEARS to get this right?

If they couldn't get it done in 42 months, how are they going to get it done with an extra 1-2 months?

No f@#$ing way this will be done to get people enrolled by Jan 1.

My only question is will it be up in time for Jan 1 enrollment for 2015.

Posted by: looking closely at December 02, 2013 10:32 AM (6Q9g2)

96 BREAKING: Taking cue from Amazon, Administration working on special drone delivery service for customers not happy with website experience. Posted by: USA at December 02, 2013 02:27 PM (VIaw0) Thread winner.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 02, 2013 10:33 AM (GaqMa)

97 Still not working here. Can't reliably get correct data to the carriers. I'm giving this contract about 2 more weeks and then I'm done watching these folks flailing around and foundering. There's still no real extreme sense of urgency amongst the worker bees (or it was here and was destroyed before we came on board, idk), even with the Governor showing up last week...you just gotta love this stuff.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 02, 2013 10:33 AM (xKYlY)

98 I bet the IRS computers will be models of efficiency when it comes time to start imposing fines.

Posted by: Retread at December 02, 2013 10:33 AM (G+w7R)

99 The Obama administration already has the ads lined up about the evil insurance companies and their greed.

And the greedy hospitals, who won't donate space and supplies for free, and the greedy doctors and nurses and janitors, who expect to be paid. Not to mention the greedy pharma companies.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 02, 2013 10:33 AM (/kI1Q)

100 Putting your SS# in 404care is like being the second dude to slap a bull's ass.

Posted by: redenzo at December 02, 2013 10:34 AM (Spvbn)

101 The website and Obamacare will work miracles if only you stupid children will clap your hands and chant "I Believe!!"

Posted by: Politico at December 02, 2013 10:34 AM (aTXUx)

102 It's true that while we've fixed some bugs, we haven't actually built much of the site at all. For example, we cant reliably transmit the 837 file containing sign up information to the proper insurance company. It's also true that we can't take payments or account for any transactions at all. Hopefully, the idealistic among you will overlook those failures and the rest of you will be too busy laughing to make any loud complaints. As Ron Burgundy would say, you stay classy America!

Posted by: Jeff Zeints at December 02, 2013 10:34 AM (F58x4)

103 Exciting new internship opportunity at The Nation magazine. The duties of the internship, in one of America's most expensive cities, will focus mainly on corporate America's exploitation of their workforce and the callous Republicans refusal to raise the minimum wage. The internship will be unpaid.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 02, 2013 10:34 AM (ZPrif)

104 Maybe I can hire these fucking geniuses to train my new puppy. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2013 02:28 PM (CJjw5) Failcare Obedience School. We absolutely positively guarantee your new puppy will be unpossible to live with for only $100,000 per session!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 02, 2013 10:34 AM (JSOLr)

105 Speaking of, WTF Kristin Powers? She looked awful this morning on Fox. Huge bags under her eyes, her hair didn't even look combed. Is she all right? --------------------- Yes, what's the problem?

Posted by: Debbie Wasserslag at December 02, 2013 10:34 AM (4/o9U)

106 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 02, 2013 02:33 PM (/kI1Q) I noted on twitter, I'm already seeing ads saying the marketplace is the "only place to get lower prices." Which I know refers to the subsidies, but sorta implies that Obamacare may be raising prices doesn't it?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 02, 2013 10:34 AM (GaqMa)

107 It's not impressive, at all.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2013 02:27 PM (sByIH)

******

Yup.  They've basically finished the prototype and now have the hard work to do.

Aw, who am I kidding?  The administration will trot out some line that the website is fine, it's the evil insurers that are intentional dorking the policy you selected because ... profit.  If the insurers were smart they would refuse any manual work-around and require the government sites send corrected 834s for everything until they get it right.  (That is, send transactions to cancel every policy and resend good data so all the bad data and missing data gets cleaned up.)  As is it, they're just signing up to be screwed.


Posted by: lymond at December 02, 2013 10:35 AM (fzxq4)

108 And if you think the fixes they're making to the backend are being done in a slow, considered, deliberate manner, you're a fool.


The time for designing an airplane is before it ever leaves the ground.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 02, 2013 10:35 AM (8ZskC)

109 I bet the IRS computers will be models of efficiency when it comes time to start imposing fines.
Posted by: Retread

I'll bet a hundred bucks that adult dependents and spouses get fined despite being covered under another SSN.

Posted by: OZ! at December 02, 2013 10:35 AM (CMlD4)

110 Speaking of, WTF Kristin Powers? She looked awful this morning on Fox. Huge bags under her eyes, her hair didn't even look combed. Is she all right? It's probably from the beating she took at the Thanksgiving table from her lefty relatives.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 02, 2013 10:35 AM (sByIH)

111 This thread brought to you by Wide Track Pontiac for 1963

Posted by: Pontiac Motor Division at December 02, 2013 10:35 AM (aTXUx)

112 Word of mouth moves more traffic into the theater then the slickest advertising. It also works in reverse. --- He's King Midas with a curse He's King Midas in reverse He's King Midas with a curse He's King Midas in reverse

Posted by: The Hollies at December 02, 2013 10:36 AM (/Crba)

113 anywho, this is the most expensive free stuff ever.

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:36 AM (nqBYe)

114 That's an 834 file, fwiw. Christ, I can't imagine this crop of fucktards trying to process an ANSI X12 837 EDI document and actually pay a claim...lol But, single payer...

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 02, 2013 10:36 AM (xKYlY)

115 And if you think the fixes they're making to the backend are being done
in a slow, considered, deliberate manner, you're a fool.


The time for designing an airplane is before it ever leaves the ground.
Posted by: Cicero

I bet there are hackers in Russia and China actually in the development loop at this point watching the submits and comments.

Posted by: OZ! at December 02, 2013 10:36 AM (CMlD4)

116 I'll have Reggie fix my back end.

Posted by: King Barky the Liar at December 02, 2013 10:36 AM (WGm5T)

117 Just declare the bugs to be features and voila--victory.   That's kind of what they did didn't they, with their advanced queuing technology (Come back later window).

Posted by: dirks strewn at December 02, 2013 10:36 AM (kfcYC)

118 1) Records aren't getting through.

2) If the records are getting through, there's a complete lack of serialization/security. Witness the guy who got 2 copies of some other dude's confirmation letter.  Witness the other guy who used his dog as a security question, and his dog got enrolled.   THAT STUFF IS ALREADY STORED.  Are they scrubbing existing data for this shit?  Nope, they'll wait until people notice.  Ensuring that this stuff comes up in drips from here until forever.

3) "Pay now, submit the claim and you'll be reimbursed" is going to be a standard sign at reception desks.

Posted by: grognard at December 02, 2013 10:37 AM (/29Nl)

119 111 If the insurers were smart they would refuse any manual work-around and require the government sites send corrected 834s for everything until they get it right. LOL...just got off a call with a carrier who said basically the same th........lololol.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 02, 2013 10:37 AM (xKYlY)

120 King Sadim The Destroyer.

Posted by: thgrant51@gmail.com at December 02, 2013 10:38 AM (XhzTz)

121 116  The Hollies at December 02, 2013 02:36 PM (/Crba)

I am er SIDAM the Malignant behold my works and er blame Bush!

//BH O'bama esq

Posted by: sven10077 at December 02, 2013 10:38 AM (9jfyN)

122 forget to click my shoes

Posted by: Jean at December 02, 2013 10:38 AM (CMlD4)

123 39 problems?

I thought the proper term was 'sub optimal'?

It's changed back?
===

That's funny.

I've used the term "sub-optimal" for years, and I always tell my co-workers (privately) that when I use the word "sub-optimal", I'm really saying "shitty".  "Sub-optimal" is what you've got when your work product does what its supposed, to, just barely and with minimal acceptable quality.

In this case, IMO the Obamacare website doesn't even rise to the level of "suboptimal" because that implies that it functions, just not well.   Personally, I'd use the term "non-functional" or "unsatisfactory" to describe this. . .though I'm not trying to spin for the Obama administration here.  

Posted by: looking closely at December 02, 2013 10:38 AM (6Q9g2)

124 Often what happens in software projects is the production team does a "mock-up" of what the software is going to look like. They put in fake data and let the end users play with it. They demo that mock-up and make sure that people like the flow and the interface and all that. Minx 0.7 Alpha.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2013 10:38 AM (xZxMD)

125 Everything that hurts the "Chicago Jesus" is racist.

So obviously,  healthcare.gov is obviously racist

Posted by: Frankie Goes To A Handcart at December 02, 2013 10:38 AM (e8kgV)

126 So obviously, healthcare.gov is obviously racist Posted by: Frankie Goes To A Handcart at December 02, 2013 02:38 PM (e8kgV) "It became sentient and then became racist. It's the only explanation!" -Rev Al

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 02, 2013 10:39 AM (GaqMa)

127 Have they enrolled the numbers that they need? No. Have they enrolled the demographic that they need? No. Have they collected any money? No. It's a trifecta!

Posted by: The Commenting Software at December 02, 2013 10:39 AM (kkbgQ)

128 We will make doctors work for free. Health care is a right.

Posted by: thgrant51@gmail.com at December 02, 2013 10:39 AM (XhzTz)

129 Even if the    site worked, we Kulaks are too stupid to choose our own     version of     Stalincare.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 02, 2013 10:40 AM (O3C36)

130 OT JEF going to Tehran to celebrate the isolation of Israel in 2014

Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 10:40 AM (zOTsN)

131 The time for designing an airplane is before it ever leaves the ground. ------------------- Unless your pilot is gonna be a dude named Atta.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 02, 2013 10:40 AM (4/o9U)

132 You know what? I didn't even like my insurance that much. But it was scads better than this steaming shitpile of a plan I was just forced into...for over 1.5 times the cost of my old plan.

Posted by: DangerGirl at December 02, 2013 10:40 AM (U7Ivf)

133 ACA website matching most applicants with Single Prayer Plan.

Posted by: USA at December 02, 2013 10:40 AM (VIaw0)

134 Minx 0.7 Alpha. Yeah, when was that last change made, Pixy? 2005?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 02, 2013 10:40 AM (sByIH)

135 http://is.gd/HwYqvd

Posted by: Bigby's Thumb at December 02, 2013 10:40 AM (1gyVd)

136 Why don't you just TELL me  the name of the  insurance policy you want to enroll in! 

Posted by: Kramer Obamacare Phone Line at December 02, 2013 10:41 AM (TOk1P)

137 The balls on this President. The fjcking balls! Is that racist?

Posted by: thgrant51@gmail.com at December 02, 2013 10:41 AM (XhzTz)

138 speaking of, WTF Kristin Powers? She looked awful this morning on Fox. Huge bags under her eyes, her hair didn't even look combed. Is she all right? I promise I'll stop keeping KP up so late.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 02, 2013 10:41 AM (7ObY1)

139 We will make doctors work for free. Health care is a right. Posted by: thgrant51@gmail.com at December 02, 2013 02:39 PM (XhzTz) That's what my liberal sister believes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 02, 2013 10:41 AM (t3UFN)

140 Will    Soetorocare   fix    us?   We    are    a     train    wreck.  Try    not    to    notice    but    once    you    do     you    can't    look     away.

Posted by: Will Ferrell's Lower Teeth at December 02, 2013 10:41 AM (/1ATA)

141 re 130: well, then, protest we much!

Posted by: Mallfly at December 02, 2013 10:41 AM (bJm7W)

142 141 The balls on this President. The fjcking balls! Is that racist? Posted by: thgrant51@gmail.com at December 02, 2013 02:41 PM (XhzTz) All criticism of Barry is racist. Please report to your nearest reeducation center.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 02, 2013 10:42 AM (UAMVq)

143 HHS is already working on a bill to assure that doctors have to treat folks that don't pay. I'm calling it the "Doctor Freedom and Fairness Act."

Posted by: King Barky the Liar at December 02, 2013 10:42 AM (WGm5T)

144 That's what my liberal sister believes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 02, 2013 02:41 PM (t3UFN)


Do you do her dental work? Oh, the possibilities!

Posted by: Retread at December 02, 2013 10:42 AM (G+w7R)

145 According to MSM, ACA website is just as robust as a Soviet harvest.

Posted by: USA at December 02, 2013 10:43 AM (VIaw0)

146 Does this blog make my ass look wide?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 02, 2013 10:43 AM (7ObY1)

147 Posted by: Kramer Obamacare Phone Line at December 02, 2013 02:41 PM (TOk1P) LOL

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 02, 2013 10:43 AM (4/o9U)

148

The definition of "slavery" is forcing someone to work without payment, is it not?

 

So how do the Obamabots square that circle?

 

 

Posted by: whyme at December 02, 2013 10:43 AM (l9mF2)

149 That's what my liberal sister believes Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 02, 2013 02:41 PM (t3UFN) Do you do her dental work? Oh, the possibilities! Posted by: Retread at December 02, 2013 02:42 PM (G+w7R) When we were feuding ( worse than now) she started going to another poor soul. We threw a party in my Office

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 02, 2013 10:43 AM (t3UFN)

150 152 The definition of "slavery" is forcing someone to work without payment, is it not? So how do the Obamabots square that circle? Posted by: whyme at December 02, 2013 02:43 PM (l9mF2) If they don't provide services for free, we make the pay a fine, er, a tax. Perfectly Constitutional. Easy peasy!

Posted by: Justice John Roberts at December 02, 2013 10:45 AM (UAMVq)

151 Does Sasha/Malia remind anyone of Paris Jackson? Will they "do" a suicide attempt if they aren't allowed to see Marlyn Manson, or if enough plebes don't sign up for daddycare?

Posted by: obviously ray's sis at December 02, 2013 10:45 AM (RPDkq)

152 According to MSM, ACA website is just as robust as a Soviet harvest.

Posted by: USA at December 02, 2013 02:43 PM (VIaw0)

 

-

 

A handy     stat:  in 1934, the USSR exported 7 million tons of grain from the Ukraine.  Coincidentally, also     in 1934, 7 million Ukranians starved     to death.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 02, 2013 10:45 AM (O3C36)

153 Lib family member calling elderly family member a "taker" because he didn't want his insurance premiums to go up. And then expressed surprise when people got emotional about it

Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 10:45 AM (zOTsN)

154 nevergiveup, what does she do for income?
anyway you can demand she herself do it for free to anyone that wants  to use her services?

i actually had to respond to my 17 year old in this way, a couple of years ago.

so you can do a little framing?  i believe you should offer your services to whoemever for no pay until whomever and their sister has their house built, and then move onto the next whomever,

of course buying that iphone is out as you will have No money and just debt for your tools and phones to get to your free job

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:45 AM (nqBYe)

155 So how do the Obamabots square that circle? I believe that Bashir fellow laid out the template. Slavery is so awful bad bad bad that any comparison between government forcing you to buy something and slavery is beyond the pale. If you are not physically enslaved with people beating you and defecating on you, you're not a slave.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 02, 2013 10:45 AM (sByIH)

156

The front end  and back end of  Obamacare walked into a bar where the tab policy has gotten out of hand .  

 

The bartender looks at them and says  " sorry we don't serve anyone who doesn't work"

Posted by: polynikes at December 02, 2013 10:46 AM (m2CN7)

157 155 Does Sasha/Malia remind anyone of Paris Jackson? I doubt that either of their "fathers" actually sired them, yes.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 02, 2013 10:46 AM (7ObY1)

158 132 We will make doctors work for free. Health care is a right.
===

I know half a dozen doctors near retirement; these are the guys with the most experience and often the best in their respective areas.

Some of these guys are already looking at massive pay cuts from Medicare reimbursement reductions this past year. 

To a one, they're all saying stuff like, "If this crap any worse, I'm out", and "It was nice to be in medicine when it was good, but I wouldn't let my kids go to medical school now".

Since there is already a growing shortage of doctors, pushing out ANY into early retirement is only going to make things that much worse in terms of actual care available.

Posted by: looking closely at December 02, 2013 10:47 AM (PwGfd)

159 nevergiveup, what does she do for income? A) Ripped off my mother for money before I took 50% control B) Retired teacher with a huge public pension Git the picture?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 02, 2013 10:47 AM (t3UFN)

160 but do you feeeeeeeeel like you signed up?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at December 02, 2013 10:47 AM (8JJ6O)

161 And then expressed surprise when people got emotional about it. Yep. They're so divorced from reality that they expect no pushback for hateful behavior. Why they see talking heads and lefty friends saying the same thing all the time and nobody gets exercised over it!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 02, 2013 10:47 AM (sByIH)

162 sometimes you have to admit you make enough money,  so we will tell you when your money is too rich, starts at around 250k or maybe it is 100k  we'll decide.

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:48 AM (nqBYe)

163 Minx 0.7 Alpha. Yeah, when was that last change made, Pixy? 2005? Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2013 02:40 PM (sByIH) ---------------------------- Pixyware works for almost 80% of the commenters.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2013 10:48 AM (CJjw5)

164 If the records are getting through, there's a complete lack of serialization/security.

One module compiled with structures align(4), another with align(

Hilarity ensues!

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 02, 2013 10:49 AM (0OknM)

165 align(8 )

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 02, 2013 10:49 AM (0OknM)

166 Minx 0.7 Alpha is an abandoned project.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 02, 2013 10:49 AM (sByIH)

167 Slavery..?

"Wage slavery is the predominate form of oppression today. Workers are forced to sell themselves (actually, their labor power) in order to survive. Instead of being owned, and provided for in some fashion, they are “free” for the remainder of the day. However, economic necessity prevents the overwhelming mass of humanity from being truly free. Survival is linked to becoming a wage slave for another. In most cases, the “other” is a giant corporation.

The system we live in today is called the capitalist mode of production. Past modes include primitive communism, slavery and feudalism. We can project future modes as socialism and advanced communism." 

http://freevenice.org/wordpress/?p=24

[clearly obamacare is a step towards the freedom of socialism]

Posted by: Mallfly at December 02, 2013 10:49 AM (bJm7W)

168 Nevergiveup, yikes, well pension hmm? perhaps a cut off date for too much income .
look you've made 'your's, now you will get up at 7 a.m and teach for several hours a day those that are unable to grasp math or emglish.

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:49 AM (nqBYe)

169 We are removing the vail. Why bother any more? All future press conferences will be held in Newspeak only. http://tinyurl.com/2uwdqj

Posted by: Jay Carney at December 02, 2013 10:49 AM (0FSuD)

170 We will make doctors work for free. Health care is a right.

Good news for the guy on the line at the catheter factory:  He's back to 40 hrs/wk from 29!

Bad news: He's not getting paid for any of 'em.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 02, 2013 10:50 AM (/kI1Q)

171 B) Retired teacher with a huge public pension

Ask how much of her pension she's willing to give up to help pay the premium of some minimum wage worker.

Posted by: Retread at December 02, 2013 10:50 AM (G+w7R)

172 Minx 0.7 Alpha is an abandoned project. Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2013 02:49 PM (sByIH) ----------------------- You should have seen Minx 0.3. What a piece of shit!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2013 10:50 AM (CJjw5)

173 It's true that while we've fixed some bugs, we haven't actually built much of the site at all. For example, we cant reliably transmit the 837 file containing sign up information to the proper insurance company. It's also true that we can't take payments or account for any transactions at all. Hopefully, the idealistic among you will overlook those failures and the rest of you will be too busy laughing to make any loud complaints.

As Ron Burgundy would say, you stay classy America!

Posted by: Jeff Zeints at December 02, 2013 02:34 PM (F58x4)

 

 

PS - Oh, and only half a billion lines of code!   Don't worry, by the time we're done, that'll probably double.   More is better, right?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 02, 2013 10:50 AM (4df7R)

174 And then expressed surprise when people got emotional about it. Yep. They're so divorced from reality that they expect no pushback for hateful behavior. Why they see talking heads and lefty friends saying the same thing all the time and nobody gets exercised over it! A good old knock down, drag out, donnybrook IS excersize!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2013 10:51 AM (xZxMD)

175 i do like how those not affected by their Free stuff would like to steal the efforts of Others .

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:51 AM (nqBYe)

176 >>Maybe I can hire these fucking geniuses to train my new puppy. Posted by: Empire of Jeff These morons would piss on your carpeting then rub the puppy's nose in it.

Posted by: Aviator at December 02, 2013 10:51 AM (DI+ja)

177

Lib family member calling elderly family member a "taker" because he didn't want his insurance premiums to go up. <br />

<br />

Properly translated from the Russian, the     word is saboteur.

 

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 02, 2013 10:51 AM (O3C36)

178 All you people misusing the word "slavery" make me want to shit in your mouths.

Posted by: Martin Bashir at December 02, 2013 10:51 AM (7ObY1)

179 I would never want my dentist to be angry with me.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 02, 2013 10:51 AM (ZPrif)

180 Most lib members of my family are the biggest free loaders and manipulators. I know. You're shocked

Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 10:51 AM (zOTsN)

181 Just for giggles go to the ANSI site and look at the record types for medical insurance. You will know just enough about some of the terminology used to think you have a handle on things. You would be wrong. Now imagine that those record types have to moves smoothly and error free from server farms to enormous mainframes. Oh, BTW, servers and mainframes do not use the same language or storage protocols, so that translation has to be done back and forth. Then, you get to deal with the money to pay everybody for everything in the correct legal formats per contractual agreements, etc. The people with actual expertise in this spend hundreds of millions of dollars and countless hours a year to keep all this going smoothly. But, hey, Barky, gives it to a Canadian company with the requirements written on one side of a 3 x 5 in card. Genius, syriasly, you guys, this is rocket surgery in the dark in a diving submarine with a screen door.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 02, 2013 10:52 AM (JSOLr)

182 they exhaust me,
outside for a bit to look at what's still flourishing.

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:53 AM (nqBYe)

183 bottom of page 3 Â…

While there is more work to be done, the team is operating with private sector velocity and effectiveness, and will continue their work to improve and enhance the website in the weeks and months ahead. The following charts provide data on the systems enhancements that have been executed, and the resulting improvements in the siteÂ’s key operating metrics over the last several weeks.

Posted by: Frankie Goes To A HHS at December 02, 2013 10:53 AM (e8kgV)

184 Ask how much of her pension she's willing to give up to help pay the premium of some minimum wage worker. Allow me to guess the response: "That's different!" *footstamp* "I earned that money in an honorable way. I don't do unnecessary tonsillectomies or pedectomies."

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 02, 2013 10:53 AM (sByIH)

185 Whose going to pay the damn bills for those whose insurance was canceled and now are exposed to risk of no insurance and large medical bills come Jan. 1?!

Posted by: shelby at December 02, 2013 10:53 AM (TKaeM)

186 B) Retired teacher with a huge public pension

Ask how much of her pension she's willing to give up to help pay the premium of some minimum wage worker.

Posted by: Retread at December 02, 2013 02:50 PM (G+w7R)

 

And if you note the regulation which is going to allow  a lot of those self administered plans  be  exempt from  the  Obamacare tax.    Unions   have already  refused to  give up anything to help pay the premiums of others. 

Posted by: polynikes at December 02, 2013 10:53 AM (m2CN7)

187 I see the consensus of Google billionaires is that us peasants should all be forced to live in shacks with no heat to save the planet. I learned that by watching the TED conference videos they broadcast from Tahiti on their yachts.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 02, 2013 10:53 AM (ZPrif)

188 No one has said it recently, so I will:  This  country is so fucking boned.

Posted by: Soona at December 02, 2013 10:53 AM (FtgP2)

189 What happens when you build your state exchange website - and don't make "phone number" mandatory...because, like, homeless people and stuff. And then - your offshore development folks compound the error by making people input the country code (duh, 001) into the webform (for your supposedly only going to be used in the US website)? Well, you get a shitload of people that have phones that didn't input their numbers even though they had them and knew them. Fast forward...you then get carriers who refuse to accept a file without a way to contact the member (other than snail mail via the address you did force the enrollee to input). Oops.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 02, 2013 10:53 AM (xKYlY)

190 Nevergiveup, I mean no disrespect, but I will most likely drink bourbon from your liberal sister's skull in the Burning Times.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2013 10:53 AM (CJjw5)

191 ACA website: Now with 10% more code!

Posted by: USA at December 02, 2013 10:53 AM (VIaw0)

192 Did my comment embiggen this?? I don't even know what happened! Those characters just appeared for no reason. I've never been in the barrel...it's not as bad as you guys say, right? *sniff*

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 02, 2013 10:53 AM (SUKHu)

193 willow, #79: "i actually am slightly piss'd all the focus is on the website while loss of jobs because of obamcare. loss of survivable working hours(29). COSTS of healthcare middle man ,and of course losing actual lives because of those 5-6 deciders on your personal value to the state," You are quite right. My "I love the focus" was sarcastic. It would have been more precise to say that it gives me grim amusement to watch the defenders of this fiasco try to pull this bait-and-switch, as if it's all they have to convince us of, then once the technical problems are fixed: Presto! But I shouldn't be amused, for just the reasons you give. This is messing with a lot of people, and whatever fix is worked out - up to and including repeal - isn't going to undo the damage.

Posted by: JPS at December 02, 2013 10:53 AM (9ziuC)

194 Oh, one of the physician groups I know laid off a good number of employees a few months back.  The combination of known Medicare reimbursement cuts and coming but yet unpredictable health insurance cost increases meant they couldn't afford to take chances with any employees whose jobs weren't absolutely essential.

The "silver lining" was that Medicare cuts also meant that the physician group owners fell out of Obamas $250k 39% "Rich American" bracket.   So their marginal tax rates are "only" about 42% factoring in State income taxes as well.

Too bad this wasn't a surgical group, or they could compensate by doing a lot more unnecessary leg amputations.



Posted by: looking closely at December 02, 2013 10:54 AM (6Q9g2)

195 155 Does Sasha/Malia remind anyone of Paris Jackson? ---------------- No. Malia is very pretty but nowhere near as striking as that Jackson kid. Sasha is still kinda cute right now but looks like her maternal grandmother, I'm sad to say. Not destined to be a great beauty.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 02, 2013 10:54 AM (dfYL9)

196 Good news for the guy on the line at the catheter factory: He's back to 40 hrs/wk from 29! Bad news: He's not getting paid for any of 'em. Poor receipient of said catheters. Polished with 80 grit. And for proof, we've left the grit.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2013 10:54 AM (xZxMD)

197 Maybe I can hire these fucking geniuses to train my new puppy.

Must be King, hasn't got shit all over him, etc...

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 02, 2013 10:54 AM (DL2i+)

198 Oh, BTW, servers and mainframes do not use the same language or storage protocols, so that translation has to be done back and forth. That's what SOAP and RESTful web services were invented for.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 02, 2013 10:54 AM (sByIH)

199 the team is operating with private sector velocity and effectiveness

... get rid of the government run development project, they can't do anything

Posted by: Frankie Goes To HHS at December 02, 2013 10:55 AM (e8kgV)

200 i didn't believe i was so old, when i grew up it was an insult to My own honor to ask people for stuff i didn't pay for or work for.

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:55 AM (nqBYe)

201 New, Improved ACA website has HELP option: "Complaints? IRS agents are standing by to take your call!"

Posted by: USA at December 02, 2013 10:55 AM (VIaw0)

202 New hotness of the ruling class -- we should just accept the new society of Google/Wall Street/Politician billionaires who run everything while 85% live in the much and start building shanty towns like in Rio. Rio is actually being held up as a fucking model for the future of America. The "middle class" is unsustainable and not eco-friendly. Better to put the masses in shanty towns -- much lower carbon emissions.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 02, 2013 10:55 AM (ZPrif)

203 Whose going to pay the damn bills for those whose insurance was canceled and now are exposed to risk of no insurance and large medical bills come Jan. 1?!

Posted by: shelby at December 02, 2013 02:53 PM (TKaeM)

 

 

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Sorry.  But you  see,  we have to break a few eggs..........

Posted by: Baraka and Ayers yucking it up at December 02, 2013 10:56 AM (FtgP2)

204 I've never been in the barrel...it's not as bad as you guys say, right?

*sniff*

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 02, 2013 02:53 PM (SUKHu)


Lysol, lots of Lysol.

Posted by: Retread at December 02, 2013 10:56 AM (G+w7R)

205 the team is operating with private sector velocity and effectiveness


... what do you want to believe that they are getting time and a half with regularly scheduled coffee breaks with extra sick days

Posted by: Frankie Goes To HHS at December 02, 2013 10:56 AM (e8kgV)

206 Actually I think this whole clusterfuck speaks volumes about our shitheel in chief -- He is willing to and actually is destroying the mental health and financial well being of millions of Americans because "I want".
 
People like our Lauren and Neidermeyer, who have really tried to use the new system to get compliant insurance but can't, and are left in a bureaucratic nightmare not of their making. People that have NEVER been uninsured before, and have in fact arranged their entire working lives around making sure they have decent insurance. People that already had to make tradeoffs to afford their insurance, and are now looking at costs thousands above what they were expecting -- Facing car repos, lost homes, ruined credit, no college education fund because it is that or buying this turd product mandated by law.
 
That is the reality of what he wants; that and the fact that he just doesn't care. Apparently Hope and Change doesn't come with a Care component. It's enough in his mind that he wants it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 02, 2013 10:56 AM (wNF3N)

207 shelby i believe  creative celestial  pathways for those that become uninsured , depending on their future value to the state.

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:57 AM (nqBYe)

208 ok,

out for a bit.

Posted by: willow at December 02, 2013 10:57 AM (nqBYe)

209 "Mission accomplished, Brownie!"

-Barack Obama

Posted by: Beorn at December 02, 2013 10:58 AM (dGF4J)

210 Sorry. But you see, we have to break a few eggs.......... I had a douchy leftist wearing a Che shirt say that to me once. I was at work so I didn't say anything, but in my head I had a full-throated claxon going off.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 02, 2013 10:58 AM (sByIH)

211

Bourbon out of a skull?  Ooh, that's fancy!

 

The rest of  us will be eating deoderant sticks, and drinking cologne out of the broken tester bottles  amongst the rubble of burned out Woolworth stores, and YOU expect bourbon.  In a skull.

 

Looxury. 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2013 10:58 AM (TOk1P)

212 The ruling class eco-Left now admires Rio -- because the alternative is cutting down the rain forest for that evil, evil "sprawl". That horrible sprawl with single family homes and people living with dignity, privacy, and self-respect. Shanty towns without roads or electricity are so much more eco-conscious. I know cause Al Gore told me on the live stream he runs from his summer mansion.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 02, 2013 10:58 AM (ZPrif)

213 We need a machine that goes Ping.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2013 10:59 AM (g1DWB)

214 Rio is actually being held up as a fucking model for the future of America. The "middle class" is unsustainable and not eco-friendly. Better to put the masses in shanty towns -- much lower carbon emissions. Until we start burning everything in sight....

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2013 10:59 AM (xZxMD)

215 By comparison, this site, "powered by Minx 0.7 alpha," is phenomenal.

Posted by: USA at December 02, 2013 10:59 AM (VIaw0)

216 So, I tried healthcare.gov again today without signing up.  I used the feature that lets you browse plans/premiums and they finally added a "Details" button next to each plan.

In the details (at least for the Blue Cross plan I tested) you can get to a list of providers.  It is very cumbersome and I cannot imagine having to cross-check multiple plans for the providers I wanted, but it did let me finally do this at least.

The problem is, however, that NONE of my providers were on that list.  The largest hospital in my county was not on the list!  So, I would be paying out of network prices for all my doc visits and hospital visits.

And this was for one of the high-end Gold plans!

People are going to go batshit crazy when they find out how bad their selections are in these plans..  Women being forced to go to a new OB/Gyne and not allowed to have their babies in their own hospital?  These are the women the Dems will be counting on believeing the GOP has a "war on women"?  Good luck, libtards!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 02, 2013 10:59 AM (f9c2L)

217 217 We need a machine that goes Ping. One ping only, Vasily.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 02, 2013 11:00 AM (xKYlY)

218 Over half a billion lines of code and it appears that none of that code is for the actual important stuff. Actual reality is a stone cold bitch, isn't it?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 02, 2013 11:00 AM (VtjlW)

219 Sorry. But you see, we have to break a few eggs.......... I had a douchy leftist wearing a Che shirt say that to me once. I was at work so I didn't say anything, but in my head I had a full-throated claxon going off. You shoulda kicked him in the eggs.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2013 11:00 AM (xZxMD)

220 If the burning times come, 9 out of 10 hobos recommend scope mouthwash and vanilla extract as booze substitutes in a pinch. NyQuil for a chaser

Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 11:00 AM (zOTsN)

221 The time for designing an airplane is before it ever leaves the ground. before you spend $ on aluminum and ship it to Porta-Potty builders

I know I'm insulting Porta-Potty.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 02, 2013 11:00 AM (DL2i+)

222 The vast majority of times I will not cum in your mouth.

Posted by: Jukin at December 02, 2013 11:00 AM (WGm5T)

223 That's what SOAP and RESTful web services were invented for. Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2013 02:54 PM (sByIH) Yes. But, it's another layer. These folks took a hugely complex business and threw a Czar, her minions, and thousands of pages of law and regulation on top of it and whooo, doggies, it don't work...whodathunkit!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 02, 2013 11:01 AM (JSOLr)

224 The problem is, however, that NONE of my providers were on that list. The largest hospital in my county was not on the list! So, I would be paying out of network prices for all my doc visits and hospital visits.

And this was for one of the high-end Gold plans!
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Brit Hume's wife had the same experience. It's a tax, all the way down.

Posted by: Retread at December 02, 2013 11:01 AM (G+w7R)

225 The data format mapping layers should have been plug in code that was written and tested by the insurance companies years ago.  They got mainframes and PC's in offices too...

...ha, ha, ha.  I'm a dreamer like that sometimes.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 02, 2013 11:02 AM (0OknM)

226 Got   my  Cyber   Monday   drunk  on!

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 02, 2013 11:02 AM (/1ATA)

227 I was so proud of my barrel-free run. Like they say, pride goes before a fall into a slimy, nasty barrel of doom. Never really understood that quote until now.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 02, 2013 11:03 AM (SUKHu)

228 I had a douchy leftist wearing a Che shirt say that to me once. I was at work so I didn't say anything, but in my head I had a full-throated claxon going off.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2013 02:58 PM (sByIH)

 

 

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Be wary.  30% of the populace (hard-core leftists) truly believe this.  And also remember.  It's that minority that's running the country right now.

Posted by: Soona at December 02, 2013 11:04 AM (FtgP2)

229 Got to bend the cost curve. We'll give you free health care. You just have to drive 50 miles, and past several superior hospitals, to the next county to get it. If you stop at one of the closer hospitals that's cheating and we won't pay.

Posted by: Fuck Obama at December 02, 2013 11:04 AM (ZPrif)

230 There are next to NO english speaking doctors on the obamacare exchanges. That is how you ration care

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 02, 2013 11:04 AM (t3UFN)

231 Code is like chicken, right?  Parts is parts.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 02, 2013 11:04 AM (0OknM)

232 If you have a doc that you like and have been seeing for a while, you get real pissed off when you can't see them any more. I'm amazed that they can get away with this shit.

Posted by: The Commenting Software at December 02, 2013 11:04 AM (kkbgQ)

233 ACA website experience? When not crashing, I give it 1+1/2 Space Invaders

Posted by: USA at December 02, 2013 11:04 AM (VIaw0)

234 Consumer Reports must have got a call from the administration

Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 11:04 AM (zOTsN)

235 230 The data format mapping layers should have been plug in code that was written and tested by the insurance companies years ago. Every payor has to be able to accept a HIPAA-compliant 834, either natively or throguh a clearinghouse. That's a no-brainer, yep. Since January 1, 2012 for those of us playing the home game. These exchanges just have a habit of "repurposing" shit, thus breaking all of the standardization rules that are inherent within any ANSI X12 business process. -Random ANSI X12 SME

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 02, 2013 11:05 AM (xKYlY)

236 Over half a billion lines of code and it appears that none of that code is for the actual important stuff.



What is the code for?


Turning italics on and off?


Posted by: EC at December 02, 2013 11:05 AM (GQ8sn)

237 The rest of us will be eating deoderant sticks, and drinking cologne out of the broken tester bottles amongst the rubble of burned out Woolworth stores, and YOU expect bourbon. In a skull. ------------------------------- My Death's Head Legions will make a lightning raid into Kentucky, sweeping through the Jim Beam distillery and consolidating on the Maker's Mark property in Loretto. Meanwhile, Bannion will blow the I-65 bridges to the north, delaying enemy reinforcement from Louisville. There Will Be Bourbon.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2013 11:05 AM (CJjw5)

238 Starting to think "Lucifer's Hammer" was a euphemism for Obamacare.

Posted by: grognard at December 02, 2013 11:05 AM (/29Nl)

239 Shep pimping it hard

Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 11:06 AM (zOTsN)

240 Brit Hume's wife had the same experience. It's a tax, all the way down.
Posted by: Retread
...........
Yes.  I saw that.. stunning.

Good thing I am just doing this as an exercise.   My work provides health insurance, and they took advantage of the ruling that if you renew before Dec 31st, you can keep the same plan.  So, for our company at least, Obamacare doesn't kick in until Dec 1st, 2014.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 02, 2013 11:06 AM (f9c2L)

241 Here's the plan: 1) Give people very expensive "free" health insurance 2) Make it as hard as possible to actually see an actual doctor -- like only paying for visits to crappy hospitals in the next county over 3) Hope they die before they get old 4) Profit!!

Posted by: Fuck Obama at December 02, 2013 11:06 AM (ZPrif)

242 What I wouldn't give for a swig of mouthwash.  Why, when I was growing up, we had a thimble of Liquid Plumber, which I had to share with my 34 sisters.  Dad would beat  us bloody....  we drank that too,  and we were glad to have it! 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2013 11:06 AM (TOk1P)

243 What happens when you build your state exchange website - and don't make "phone number" mandatory...because, like, homeless people and stuff. And then - your offshore development folks compound the error by making people input the country code (duh, 001) into the webform (for your supposedly only going to be used in the US website)? Well, you get a shitload of people that have phones that didn't input their numbers even though they had them and knew them.

Fast forward...you then get carriers who refuse to accept a file without a way to contact the member (other than snail mail via the address you did force the enrollee to input).

Oops.

Posted by: akula51 at December 02, 2013 02:53 PM (xKYlY)

 

 

Quick question: How about the +4 on your zip code?   Because I know from my work with the feds that they always want the damn +4.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 02, 2013 11:06 AM (4df7R)

244 Zues   are   animals!

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 02, 2013 11:06 AM (/1ATA)

245

It's a tax, all the way down.

 

-

 

That is what the Dread Justice Roberts said.  If you can't raise the income tax rate, just add another tax.  See:  social security tax.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 02, 2013 11:06 AM (O3C36)

246 My Death's Head Legions will make a lightning raid into Kentucky, sweeping through the Jim Beam distillery and consolidating on the Maker's Mark property in Loretto. Meanwhile, Bannion will blow the I-65 bridges to the north, delaying enemy reinforcement from Louisville.

There Will Be Bourbon.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2013 03:05 PM (CJjw5)



Yeah, but you have to make it yourself.



Posted by: EC at December 02, 2013 11:07 AM (GQ8sn)

247 Turning italics on and off?
Posted by: EC
........
no.. taking care of the ampersand "problem"

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 02, 2013 11:07 AM (f9c2L)

248 #64 BREAKING: Taking cue from Amazon, Administration working on special drone delivery service for customers not happy with website experience.
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Very funny!  Golf clap to USA.

Posted by: Mayday at December 02, 2013 11:07 AM (eHc+1)

249 I was so proud of my barrel-free run. Like they say, pride goes before a fall into a slimy, nasty barrel of doom. Never really understood that quote until now. Posted by: Mama AJ at December 02, 2013 03:03 PM (SUKHu) ----------------------------- Well, it's warm and it's wet. If you can ignore the smell, you can pretend it's a hot tub.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2013 11:07 AM (CJjw5)

250 no.. taking care of the ampersand "problem"

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 02, 2013 03:07 PM (f9c2L)



Well shit, no wonder it's fucked up!


No one can code for the ampersands!!!!!!



Posted by: EC at December 02, 2013 11:07 AM (GQ8sn)

251 Fast forward...you then get carriers who refuse to accept a file without a way to contact the member (other than snail mail via the address you did force the enrollee to input).

Oops.

Posted by: akula51 at December 02, 2013 02:53 PM (xKYlY)

 

Oh, and, that is FUCKING STUPID.

 

Why am I not surprised it's government?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 02, 2013 11:08 AM (4df7R)

252 PP/ACA EDI implementations are like pre-4010 conversions. It's almost like someone deliberately and specifically excluded anyone and everyone that knew anything about ANSI X12. We're sending premium amounts in REF segments and all sorts of shit the transaction wasn't ever designed to do. And, well, the state never actually published final specs (some folks are still coding to pre-clearance drafts, I shit you not), so who knows what any of this is supposed to look like...except, well...those of us that have worked with X12 for decades...lol

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 02, 2013 11:08 AM (xKYlY)

253 239 Consumer Reports must have got a call from the administration Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 03:04 PM (zOTsN) Why are those liberal bastards claiming the site works?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 02, 2013 11:08 AM (0FSuD)

254 Posted by: Rudyard Kipling at December 02, 2013 02:18 PM (UAMVq) Excellent poem that. This isn't so bad either. As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. H. L. Mencken

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 02, 2013 11:08 AM (bb5+k)

255 Quick question: How about the +4 on your zip code? Because I know from my work with the feds that they always want the damn +4. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 02, 2013 03:06 PM (4df7R) -------------------------- That +4 shit is for homos.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2013 11:09 AM (CJjw5)

256 >>If you can ignore the smell, you can pretend it's a hot tub. The jets making the bubbles are kind of nice. Wait, why does it seem like the source of the bubbles keeps moving??

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 02, 2013 11:10 AM (SUKHu)

257 Quick question: How about the +4 on your zip code? Version 005010: In some places (carrier address, billing physician address), mandatory. In most places (patient address, ambulance pick-up location, etc.), not mandatory. CMS: Default to 9998 when unavailable. Yawn, why'd we make it mandatory to begin with?

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 02, 2013 11:10 AM (xKYlY)

258 Consumer Reports initially told people to stay away But now they say the site works Would they give this same recommendation if this were a private business? No way

Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 11:10 AM (zOTsN)

259 “Obviously my most recent concern has been that my website’s not working,” Obama said. “We’re evaluating why it is exactly that I didn’t know soon enough that it wasn’t going to work the way it needed to. But my priority now has been to just make sure that it works.”
 
It's his website, see, and yet WE are figuring out why he don't know shit.
 
Oh, the eloquence. The pure poetry of shit for brains.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 02, 2013 11:10 AM (wNF3N)

260 They will make it difficult to get appts. The way I get around it because I live close to my docs is by asking to be put on the cancel list. I usually get a call for an available appt within a day or two. The drawback is that I have to change my underwear daily to be ready to go.

Posted by: The Commenting Software at December 02, 2013 11:12 AM (kkbgQ)

261 I am still dead, BUT I am not forgotten! http://tinyurl.com/meewrof

Posted by: Gen Franco at December 02, 2013 11:12 AM (0FSuD)

262 We will make doctors work for free. Health care is a right.
Posted by: thgrant51@gmail.com at December 02, 2013 02:39 PM (XhzTz)

That's what my liberal sister believes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 02, 2013 02:41 PM (t3UFN)

My folks, too.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 02, 2013 11:12 AM (fwARV)

263 Is there a picture of the JEF signing up for ACA?

Posted by: Thunderb at December 02, 2013 11:12 AM (zOTsN)

264 The 1/2 billion LOC number seems staggering to me.

Windows Windows 2003 Server ~50M SLOC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_lines_of_code

Consider the dev/test effort that went into W/2003S, to produce a product that mostly WORKED, and evolved out of 10+ years of work.

This Obamacare shit, created in 3 years?

Ha, ha, ha!

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 02, 2013 11:14 AM (0OknM)

265

Fast forward...you then get carriers who refuse to accept a file without a way to contact the member (other than snail mail via the address you did force the enrollee to input). Oops.
Posted by: akula51 at December 02, 2013 02:53 PM (xKYlY)

 

---------------------------------------------

 

This is a favor to the USPS.  I'm sure, somewhere, the law stipulates that snail-mail has to be used.  You know......for security  reasons.

Posted by: Soona at December 02, 2013 11:15 AM (FtgP2)

266  The vast majority of times, I have enough money in my checking account to cover the check I just put in the mail to you.

Posted by: Jukin at December 02, 2013 11:15 AM (WGm5T)

267

“Obviously my most recent concern has been that my website’s not working,” Obama said. “We’re evaluating why it is exactly that I didn’t know soon enough that it wasn’t going to work the way it needed to. But my priority now has been to just make sure that it works.”

 

 

WE'RE evaluating?     Is that the royal "We," Bamster?      Because no one   holds the blame on that but you.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 02, 2013 11:15 AM (4df7R)

268 That +4 shit is for homos. Wasn't that added for bombmaking residue detection? They rolled it out in Belfast or something. The +4 narrowed the houses down further.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 02, 2013 11:16 AM (sByIH)

269 Well shit, no wonder it's fucked up! No one can code for the ampersands!!!!!! You & you & you & you & you & you are so boned.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2013 11:17 AM (xZxMD)

270 >> The drawback is that I have to change my underwear daily to be ready to go. GASP! The real horrors of ObamaCare are just starting to be known.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 02, 2013 11:17 AM (SUKHu)

271 "The Broken Sword" Whoever did the animation knows nothing about guns. You don't hold an AK by the magazine when you shot it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 02, 2013 11:18 AM (0FSuD)

272 "My Death's Head Legions will make a lightning raid into Kentucky, sweeping through the Jim Beam distillery and consolidating on the Maker's Mark property in Loretto. Meanwhile, Bannion will blow the I-65 bridges to the north, delaying enemy reinforcement from Louisville.

There Will Be Bourbon.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2013 03:05 PM"


Cut. Jib. Newsletter...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2013 11:19 AM (knoK7)

273 Nood up! Grab willow & Mama AJ!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2013 11:19 AM (xZxMD)

274 ObamaCare is an onion of fail.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 02, 2013 11:20 AM (hLRSq)

275 We will make doctors work for free.

I work for free.

Posted by: The War Doctor, first time around at December 02, 2013 11:23 AM (hO9ad)

276

"...amongst the rubble of burned out Woolworth stores..."

 

 

You still have Woolworth stores?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 02, 2013 11:28 AM (hLRSq)

277 Consumer Reports initially told people to stay away But now they say the site works

Would they give this same recommendation if this were a private business? No way
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They better be careful.  Oprah learned the hard way that when you go all in for Obama, you'd better be prepared to lose half your audience.  And supporting the disastrous Obamacare should have even worse repercussions.  There goes Consumer Reports reputation, swirling around the drain.

Posted by: Mayday at December 02, 2013 11:39 AM (eHc+1)

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