December 09, 2013

Obama's Blather About Income Inequality Is Just His Most Recent MacGuffin
— Ace

On Friday I wrote about the MacGuffinization of American politics, a state in which the things we talk about in the national conversation, and pretend to be important, are not at all important to those pushing them upon us (the Left). Like a MacGuffin in a movie, these things are merely plot devices to motivate an audience's interest in the Hero -- Barack Obama, of course.

Mickey Kaus talks about this a little in discussing Obama's latest distraction, income inequality.

4 Things the MSM WonÂ’t Tell You About ObamaÂ’s Inequality Speech:

Now that the excitement has died down You have to admire President Obama for choosing to give a speech declaring that the fight against “growing inequality”–specifically economic inequality–is “the defining challenge of our time” and the “focus” of “all our efforts”–given that:

a. Five years into his presidency he so far hasn’t done anything to stop growing income inequality–the problem has gotten worse on his watch.

b. He doesn’t have any proposals (“It’s time to pass the Paycheck Fairness Act”) that come close to solving the problem as he defines it.

c. His one big previous initiative to reduce inequality–the Affordable Care Act–may now be hopelessly screwed up due to his own inattention and non-competence.

d. His remaining big domestic initiative–”comprehensive” immigration reform–would almost certainly make inequality worse by vastly increasing the number of unskilled workers bidding down wages at the bottom of the income scale, with the profits from the cheap labor going to business owners at the top.

Kaus observes that income inequality is the perfect MacGuffin for a long-running melodramatic serial: Because it's a MacGuffin that can never actually be attained.

Greater income equality–quintile shares, Gini coefficients and the rest–is the Great MacGuffin of the Democratic base. It’s a goal they will never reach. Deep down they know they will never reach it. But that doesn’t matter because the goal itself holds their coalition together and gives them a reason to go on.

So the audience will just have to keep coming back, week after week, to be eternally teased that satisfaction is finally at hand, only to discover, once again, that the Cigarette Smoking Man's identity has once again been obscured.

Posted by: Ace at 12:02 PM | Comments (353)
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1 Sure he has a solution! Soak the rich!

Posted by: Caliban at December 09, 2013 12:03 PM (DrC22)

2 You should link to the Insty thing:

"Sutirtha Bagchi of the University of MichiganÂ’s business school and Jan Svejnar of ColumbiaÂ’s School of International and Public Affairs studied how inequality correlates with economic growth. In general, more inequality meant slower growth, and less inequality meant faster growth.

But in many countries, over various time periods, growing inequality had no effect on economic growth. The new study suggests that an increase in inequality hurt the economy when the rich were getting rich through political connections."


And boy howdy have the politically connected gotten rich under the JEF.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 09, 2013 12:04 PM (VjL9S)

3 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:05 PM (PYAXX)

4 All this time I wanted notoriety.

Posted by: Mack Gufin at December 09, 2013 12:06 PM (Ua6T/)

5 Affirmative Action has consequences.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2013 12:06 PM (P6gd3)

6 It was the one armed man .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 09, 2013 12:07 PM (WK8VM)

7 Participation trophy nation. When I was a kid I was encouraged to work and study hard precisely so that my income and success wouldn't be equal to everyone else's. This was the point. Now everyone is supposed to have a managed outcome. But don't dare call it socialism.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2013 12:07 PM (g1DWB)

8 The lesson: never answer a Craigslist ad to buy a President.

Posted by: grognard at December 09, 2013 12:07 PM (/29Nl)

9 When everyone has zero income, then we'll have income equality. Yea!

Didn't his dad propose 100% taxation? This is just a dream of his father's.

Posted by: zmdavid at December 09, 2013 12:07 PM (YN8Jb)

10 Let's take a bite out inequality.

Posted by: MacGuffin the Equality Dog at December 09, 2013 12:07 PM (uakI+)

11 This kind of crap never ceases to astonish me.  I'm always explaining to people that income inequality is meaningless; what matters is what you can get for your $.  The average middle class person lives in Heaven compared to even the wealthiest tycoons of yesteryear.  All those kings and queens living in guilded palaces -- flush toilets?  Automobiles?  Aircon-funking-ditioning?  Relatively safe child birth?   Puhleeeze.  Besides, all those super-duper expensive gadgets that the rich can buy and you want?  You know how 3rd gen stuff is so much better and cheaper?  That's because the rich are the beta testers.  It goes on.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 09, 2013 12:07 PM (1BKwW)

12

"Let's pivot again,

Like we did last week,

Let's pivot again,

Like we did last Year!"

 

 

Limbo contest next!  How low can I go?  You ain't seen nothing yet!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 09, 2013 12:08 PM (hLRSq)

13 President Obama sure had his white hat on when he went after Income Inequality.

Posted by: MSM at December 09, 2013 12:08 PM (DrC22)

14 The problem is that Kaus still embraces socialism (he's a fan of socialized medicine, for instance, and his problem with OCare is that it was done wrong, not that it was done). Of course, I would like one Democrat to answer me this question: Given the requirements of each job- stress, level of training, cost to obtain, etc: if we achieved "Income Equality" why would anyone ever choose to be, say, a banker, a plumber, or an electrician instead of, say, a checker at Wally-World?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:08 PM (PYAXX)

15 It's his MacCrappen.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 12:08 PM (h4eud)

16 Also- by popular demand- Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:09 PM (PYAXX)

17 It's almost as if he dreams these big dreams, his fanbois in the media cheer his pure intellectual genius, the peasants are distracted trying to earn a wage (or see their doctor) and nothing actually gets done. But everything's great or something.

Obama's MacGuffin is his own imagination...

Posted by: Marcus at December 09, 2013 12:09 PM (GGCsk)

18 All this McMuffin talk is getting me hungry.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at December 09, 2013 12:09 PM (9Bdcz)

19 Re:
"So the audience will just have to keep coming back, week after week, to be eternally teased that satisfaction is finally at hand ..."

So another term for this, besides MacGuffin, might be 'Flash Gordon serial'.

Which, given the shallowness of the players in this never-ending drama, seems all too apt. (Not to disparage the serials - they're great fun - just sad that our politics is reduced to melodrama.)

Posted by: Millswaith at December 09, 2013 12:10 PM (N53vB)

20 I love the analogy. But let's pretend I'm a Dumb voter. Explain it simply and tersely.

Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 12:10 PM (mcdVj)

21 Here's a couple of proposals--economic growth and a big economic thing. Mars, or a grid overhaul, or nuclear plants, or hog wild defense spending. Becasue what we are doing now is just making the situaiton worse.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 09, 2013 12:10 PM (659DL)

22 Also, "Release the MacGuffin!"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 09, 2013 12:10 PM (hLRSq)

23 It doesn't matter whether they fuck up every single thing they touch , they have the approval of their conscience . So , it's all good .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 09, 2013 12:10 PM (WK8VM)

24 Don't try and threaten me, ace. I've watched presidents die.

Posted by: CGB Spender at December 09, 2013 12:11 PM (ZKzrr)

25 Because being a check at Wally World isn't stress free-have you ever listened to people there. Good thing Obama didn't mention economic growth-someone might think he is a failure.

Posted by: ejo at December 09, 2013 12:11 PM (GXvSO)

26 >>>Kaus observes that income inequality is the perfect MacGuffin for a long-running melodramatic serial: Because it's a MacGuffin that can never actually be attained.>>>


There can be only one!

Posted by: Inequality MacGuffin of the Clan MacGuffin at December 09, 2013 12:11 PM (uakI+)

27 >>Given the requirements of each job- stress, level of training, cost to obtain, etc: if we achieved "Income Equality" why would anyone ever choose to be, say, a banker, a plumber, or an electrician instead of, say, a checker at Wally-World? They're about to get an abject lesson in this theory. Doctors are abandoning the profession is droves. Wonder why?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2013 12:11 PM (g1DWB)

28 Posted by: awkward davies at December 09, 2013 04:10 PM (WK8VM) Insert relevant CS Lewis Quote here.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:11 PM (PYAXX)

29 Maggie Thatcher had the right response: "You would rather the poor were poorer, so long as the rich were not quite so rich." God I miss The Iron Lady and RR...

Posted by: NYC Parent at December 09, 2013 12:11 PM (HEo6y)

30 But let's pretend I'm a Dumb voter. Explain it simply and tersely. "Everything that guy just said is bullshit."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 09, 2013 12:11 PM (659DL)

31 When I was a kid I was encouraged to work and study hard precisely so that my income and success wouldn't be equal to everyone else's.

The girls who didn't have way better lives at middle-age than I do.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 09, 2013 12:12 PM (ZKzrr)

32 Have Kaus and Ace ever been seen in the same place at the same time? Do we know Kaus really exists? (Apart from all the pictures and videos, of course.)

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 09, 2013 12:12 PM (ZPrif)

33 Because being a check at Wally World isn't stress free-have you ever listened to people there It's a lot more "stress free" than being a software developer. Or, I posit, a plumber or electrician.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:13 PM (PYAXX)

34 Reality is playing the 'Knockout Game' with Obama.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, channelling Nicholson!Joker at December 09, 2013 12:13 PM (naUcP)

35 Never heard of this MacGuffen character.  Does he smoke?

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 12:13 PM (Tx68O)

36

Awesome.


Our once great Nation can now be summed up by lyrics from a "10 Years After" song.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 09, 2013 12:13 PM (nELVU)

37

But let's pretend I'm a Dumb voter. Explain it simply and tersely.

 

Are you asking Ace to distill something? 

How many characters can you get in an aphorism?

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2013 12:13 PM (P6gd3)

38 Yeah, allen g , I knew I was just mangling the oft repeated quote .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 09, 2013 12:13 PM (WK8VM)

39 Cause? "Middle Class"

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 09, 2013 12:14 PM (0FSuD)

40 Can I say Release the MacGuffin!!!!!  Everytime the Pres throws a squirrel in the road?  Or is that lame?

Posted by: Lambchop at December 09, 2013 12:14 PM (ymnmz)

41 They want to focus on income inequality to mask real inequalities in power and wealth. Most people face high swings of income inequality against themselves over time (ie, periods of unemployment, periods of low wage earning, some time of highish earning), but the left is actively against having a person equally distribute their income over time (ie be responsible and plan ahead). Where power and wealth are concerned, this should be obvious. People who are not particularly wealthy (almost everyone) focuses on income since they rely on it to survive, whereas a wealthy, powerful individual has oodles of cash and influence such that they are never in want of the basics (they can always get someone to pay them for being a member of the correct tribe). In short, Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at December 09, 2013 12:14 PM (pTp+C)

42 Martha MacGuffin was my favorite MTVJ.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2013 12:15 PM (P6gd3)

43 And what about the Other Aspect of the MacGuffin? The part that gets Us to entertain and debate the merits of all these cockamamie macguffins such as raising the min wage, tax cuts for the rich, men having husbands, gun control, amnesty for dreamers.

Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 12:15 PM (mcdVj)

44 e) He lies.

Posted by: t-bird at December 09, 2013 12:15 PM (FcR7P)

45 I am pretty sure Cro-Magnon man talked about their income inequality with the Mesolithic men.

Posted by: Marcus at December 09, 2013 12:16 PM (GGCsk)

46 why would anyone ever choose to be, say, a banker, a plumber, or an electrician instead of, say, a checker at Wally-World?

Why would anyone ever choose to be a checker at Wally-World?
http://is.gd/uHeP63

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 09, 2013 12:16 PM (ZKzrr)

47 Can I say Release the MacGuffin!!!!! Everytime the Pres throws a squirrel in the road? Or is that lame?

Posted by: Lambchop at December 09, 2013 04:14 PM (ymnmz)

 

 

Royalties to the Outrage Outlet first.

*cha-ching*   Obama's been so good for business.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 09, 2013 12:16 PM (hLRSq)

48 I'll have an Egg MacGuffin with Cheese.

Please.


Lulz.





Posted by: Mega Megs at December 09, 2013 12:16 PM (wmU4G)

49 Are you asking Ace to distill something? Vodka please.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2013 12:16 PM (h1D+w)

50 So the President came to me and he said, "Val, what am I going to do? Obamacare is a disaster, that Jew Netanyahu is making mincemeat of your Iran outreach, and those crazy Republicans won't let go of Benghazi." "No problem, Mr. President," I said, putting my hand on his knee. "Go out there and give a rousing speech about income inequality. Just like your hero FDR. You know how the press goes for that shit. Rachel Maddow will be talking about it for weeks and going on an on about how wonderful you are." "You think? They'd really go for that?" "Yeah! You know how people who have too much time on their hands love a Noble Cause. Especially if they don't actually have to do anything." "I like it. Have them write something up for me. You know, something really inspirational, like my race speech. Let's make sure we knock this one out of the park." "Mr. President, have you ever seen yourself throw a baseball?" "Is that a comment on my masculinity, Val?" "No, I wouldn't worry too much about that. Michelle has you covered."

Posted by: My name is Valerie at December 09, 2013 12:17 PM (DrC22)

51

Damn it ! I just did a long walk in a bar joke and it rejected it because of 'text too long bull crap"  

 

Could've been worse.   Reject message could have said,  'not funny, try again'.   That was a good possibility. 

Posted by: polynikes self proclaimed king of walked into a bar jokes at December 09, 2013 12:17 PM (m2CN7)

52 And Kaus' answer is ... National Healthcare. It would be funny were it not so tragic.

Posted by: toby928© at December 09, 2013 12:18 PM (QupBk)

53 Every time income inequality is mentioned, I visualize the Havana that Michael Totten wrote about, linked here this weekend.  The only way to achieve income equality is to define it to its lowest common denominator.  Everyone gets $20 a month.  That's it. 

And thus you get hell on earth. God these people are hideous in their purposeful misunderstanding of economics.

Posted by: Derak at December 09, 2013 12:18 PM (xEkHi)

54 If you like your MacGuffin, you can keep your MacGuffin.

Posted by: Flyguy at December 09, 2013 12:18 PM (2NG6u)

55 OT, but we need a cleanup on aisle 290 in the previous thread.

Posted by: Armando at December 09, 2013 12:19 PM (5iuEW)

56 What is wrong with simple fairness? Whether you work 16 hours a day in an ER or sleep 16 hours between binges, we all need to eat.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 09, 2013 12:19 PM (j70cp)

57 Hey, look around. I can help http://www.mcgruff.org/#/Main sorry tiny down

Posted by: McGruff at December 09, 2013 12:19 PM (0FSuD)

58
If liberalism we applied, to say..... ecology,  they would have the fittest and the strongest of the population crippled to be fair to weak and the infirm resulting in the eventual demise of the herd.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 09, 2013 12:19 PM (nELVU)

59 And what about the Other Aspect of the MacGuffin?

The part that gets Us to entertain and debate the merits of all these cockamamie macguffins such as raising the min wage, tax cuts for the rich, men having husbands, gun control, amnesty for dreamers.


Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 04:15 PM (mcdVj)

 

 

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Good point.  Discussing it means we're buying into the premise.  The conversation should end abruptly when any  kind of distorted leftist logic gets put into play.  Otherwise, it just encourages them.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 12:20 PM (Tx68O)

60 Yep, the Left wants to reduce income inequality. Meanwhile Obama has, literally, banned me and millions like me from America's top hospitals. All of the ObamaHMO's I'm allowed to choose from have highly restrictive doctor and hospital networks. Of course, at this stage, they still won't tell me exactly how restrictive. That's part of the fun and surprise!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 09, 2013 12:20 PM (ZPrif)

61 Income inequality is exactly like that old joke about the cause of accidents. A bunch of scientists create the greatest wiz bang computer to solve complex problems. Insurance experts note that the number one cause of accidents in the home are people tripping on the top and bottom steps of a stair case. They feed the information into the super computer for analysis. The computer recommends they remove the top and bottom steps. Liberals want to remove the top and bottom steps of economic stratification.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 09, 2013 12:20 PM (bb5+k)

62 Aye, I saw MacGuffin open for the Bay City Rollers at the Glasgow Sheep Paddock in '76.

Posted by: Angus.MacDougal at December 09, 2013 12:20 PM (pj6Nr)

63 And Kaus' answer is ... National Healthcare.

It would be funny were it not so tragic.

Posted by: toby928© at December 09, 2013 04:18 PM (QupBk)

 

 

Yeah, he's a leftie, but he's amenable to reason.  He isn't completely bat-guano crazy.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 09, 2013 12:20 PM (hLRSq)

64 I've been wondering what, now, is our rendezvous with destiny. I think I know. It's whatever the Left serves up; we'll eat it.

Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 12:20 PM (mcdVj)

65 I wish ace would get a dog. He could post pictures of it when he had writer's block. He could take it for walks. Dogs are known chick magnets. The dog could be a co-blogger.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 12:21 PM (h4eud)

66 Immigration amnesty is a Democrat MacGuffin too. They'll never reach that goal either. Unfortunately, it's a fully achievable RINO goal. That's the bad news.

Posted by: Roy at December 09, 2013 12:21 PM (VndSC)

67 The dog could be a co-blogger. I nominate Ace Doggeh to take over the THC thread.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:22 PM (PYAXX)

68 If you got yourself a scandi wife, she could make scandi liquor in your kitchen.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 12:22 PM (h4eud)

69 When the top income is only $100 a week, the bottom quintile will only earn $75 less and the era of love, equality and gumdrops will be upon us.

Posted by: Barky Underpants at December 09, 2013 12:22 PM (6ahup)

70 The dog could be a co-blogger.

Could this hypothetical dog be named MacGuffin?

Posted by: Flyguy at December 09, 2013 12:23 PM (2NG6u)

71 Other quests by the leftists that will never have to be met:
Diversity
Tolerance
______ Justice

I mean, you have to respect that ability to rally around so many things that will never happen.

And despair that the other side has no where near the ability to simplify their goals toward "feel-good-never-quite-there goals.

(Or am I wrong? Not really. We do have them, what we lack is a political class steeped in such and able to articulate them as easily as a fish swims in water. Individual freedom, for example.)

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 09, 2013 12:23 PM (VjL9S)

72 Now, he's gone from Superman to Sisyphus. He's talking about rolling a boulder up the hill. He has a much more mature view, but he a has moral view. I thought he made the moral case for Income Inequality, for you folks to consider Income Inequality as a measure of community in America. That's what motivates Barack Obama.

Posted by: Howie the Duck at December 09, 2013 12:23 PM (DrC22)

73 Ever get the feeling there's a whole lot that the pols on both sides regard as mcguffins? That pretty much everything they deign to discuss with the public actually doesn't matter much either way, but the real stuff is kept away, like the sotto voce/open mike Obama talking with the Russian PM off the record about unilaterily removing nukes?

Posted by: Bigby's Tiny Fists at December 09, 2013 12:23 PM (3ZtZW)

74 let me be clear, if you like your income inequality you can keep your income inequality. Period.

Posted by: king barry at December 09, 2013 12:23 PM (SV01K)

75 Amnesty is a great macguffin. Why? Because it can be re-used every 20 years.

Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 12:23 PM (mcdVj)

76 Good point. Discussing it means we're buying into the premise. The conversation should end abruptly when any kind of distorted leftist logic gets put into play. Otherwise, it just encourages them. Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 04:20 PM (Tx68O) I've said this for years, especially as regards the topic of gun control. Whenever it is brought up, the response should always be "No." If further discussion is solicited, the appropriate response should be: "I will NOT discuss this with you. The idea is dead on arrival. "

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 09, 2013 12:23 PM (bb5+k)

77 Also, I would like some Democrat (other than our inside man NCJ) to explain to me what "money" is.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:23 PM (PYAXX)

78 I wish ace would get a dog. He could post pictures of it when he had writer's block. He could take it for walks. Dogs are known chick magnets. Puppies. As good as babies.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2013 12:23 PM (h1D+w)

79 Wasn't Macguffin the lead singer for The Temptations?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 09, 2013 12:24 PM (32Ze2)

80 In fairness, I'm also pissed at the Malefactors of Great Wealth lately.

Posted by: toby928© at December 09, 2013 12:25 PM (QupBk)

81

Amnesty is a great macguffin.

 

 

Sorry.  No Irish.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2013 12:25 PM (P6gd3)

82 Why he's a regular robbing Hood....

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at December 09, 2013 12:25 PM (9+ccr)

83 Mark Belling when he was subbing for Rush about a week ago noted that under Obama the rich are getting richer, but both the poor And The Middle Class(tm) are taking it in the shorts.  If we had an honest media, someone would ask Emperor Mom Jeans I about that.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 09, 2013 12:25 PM (B/VB5)

84 57 Every time income inequality is mentioned, I visualize the Havana that Michael Totten wrote about, linked here this weekend. The only way to achieve income equality is to define it to its lowest common denominator. Everyone gets $20 a month. That's it. And thus you get hell on earth. God these people are hideous in their purposeful misunderstanding of economics. Posted by: Derak at December 09, 2013 04:18 PM (xEkHi) ------------------------------------- But even in Cuba you only have equality for 95% or so. The upper nomenklatura does quite well and the actual rulers are fabulously rich. Same with North Korea. Jim Jones, OTOH, actually achieved the dream. He has never been given credit for this. Perfect equality, where even he was reduced to the same condition as the lowliest member of the community. The socialist dream is not utopia ("nowhere," a fantasy.) It is realized in every cemetery. In more ways than one, the Left imposes a Culture of Death.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 09, 2013 12:25 PM (dfYL9)

85 Sorry. No Irish. Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2013 04:25 PM (P6gd3) Wouldn't that be "O'Guffin?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:25 PM (PYAXX)

86 I'm going to knock out income inequality like an unsuspecting cracker!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 09, 2013 12:26 PM (+H/11)

87 Anytime you hear a politician discussing evil income inequality you know you are listening to a hard core Communist and that is exactly what Obama is.



The only thing that is different about this time is not only is he advancing commie crap but he is also trying for a two-fer because he has made this part of his "union" speech to give an increase in the minimum wage.


And you know what the worst part of this shit is?  We still have three years of his crap to go.

Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2013 12:26 PM (T2V/1)

88 Meanwhile Obama has, literally, banned me and millions like me from America's top hospitals. All of the ObamaHMO's I'm allowed to choose from have highly restrictive doctor and hospital networks.

Of course, at this stage, they still won't tell me exactly how restrictive. That's part of the fun and surprise!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 09, 2013 04:20 PM (ZPrif)

 

 

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It's hard to come up with a way to kill millions of Americans without getting them fightin' mad.   I'm afraid, if Ocare stays,  most will go whimpering to the perverbial gas chambers just like the Jews did.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 12:26 PM (Tx68O)

89 If you got yourself a scandi wife, she could make scandi liquor in your kitchen. *nods*

Posted by: George Mueller at December 09, 2013 12:27 PM (QupBk)

90

Wouldn't that be "O'Guffin?"

 

 

Iceberg...Goldberg.  They're all the same to me.

Posted by: Punchlines for ALL occasions at December 09, 2013 12:27 PM (P6gd3)

91 >>>I wish ace would get a dog. He could post pictures of it when he had writer's block. He could take it for walks. Dogs are known chick magnets. <<<



He should get a bull terrier with a spot around one eye shaped like a spade, get it to drink Value-Rite, wear little t-shirts or sweaters, and name it Spades McKenzie MacGuffin.

Posted by: just a suggestion at December 09, 2013 12:27 PM (uakI+)

92

Jim Jones, OTOH, actually achieved the dream. He has never been given credit for this.
Perfect equality, where even he was reduced to the same condition as the lowliest member of the community.

 

Except he got all the poontang he wanted or demanded. 

Posted by: polynikes self proclaimed king of walked into a bar jokes at December 09, 2013 12:27 PM (m2CN7)

93 Ace, please keep pushing this "MacGuffin" angle. It's the most trenchant observation that has made about Obama and his base that I can remember. The explanatory power is extraordinary. So much about the Obamabots just *fits* when you understand:

Obama = Indy
Whatever Obama's doing = the Ark of the Covenant
GOP/Tea Party/Romney = Nazis

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at December 09, 2013 12:27 PM (xN1DB)

94 Jim Jones, OTOH, actually achieved the dream. He has never been given credit for this. Perfect equality, where even he was reduced to the same condition as the lowliest member of the community. Yeah. Room temperature. Way to aim low Jim.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2013 12:27 PM (h1D+w)

95 (Or am I wrong? Not really. We do have them, what we lack is a political class steeped in such and able to articulate them as easily as a fish swims in water. Individual freedom, for example.) Posted by: RoyalOil at December 09, 2013 04:23 PM (VjL9S) The Emotive portion of the political spectrum has the lion's share of the ability to communicate. They go into Entertainment, Show business, writing and other emotive vocations. It's no wonder that they get their message out so easily, their specialty is in inducing emotions in others. Emotions tend to win arguments better than does logic.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 09, 2013 12:28 PM (bb5+k)

96 So the audience will just have to keep coming back, week after week, to
be eternally teased that satisfaction is finally at hand ...

Ace nails it again, except for one small detail that really bugs me: Choom Boy is not exactly alone in doing this. Every member of Congress who opens his/her corrupt yap about every problem the current government has caused, for the most part all on its own, gives us the same "message" by saying, in effect, "this is a Bad, Bad, Not-So-Good Thing." They view with alarm, and predict disaster ahead.

Even at election time, the only "solution" they offer is: "vote for me! I will go to Washington and drain the swamp!"

Same goes for the Pundits, Theirs and Ours alike. Think about it: when was the last time you saw a comment from a columnist or blogger that proposed a concrete solution? Who has gone through the three-step process of identifying a problem, formulating a way to correct it and actually advocating that step?

After five years of President Historic First's© arrant nonsense, we are all pretty well aware that he is an incompetent, arrogant jerk. We know if there's a mess hall, he's gonna set up a latrine right next to it.

And yet we do nothing. Not only do we go through the endless cycle of rehashing his incompetence, but we also, time after time,  tolerate it through inaction. It is as if -- to use a Conservative Poster Boy -- John Galt were to spend the length of Atlas Shrugged ranting about the company he worked for while continuing to draw his paycheck.

Is someone going to break this cycle? More and more, I think the answer is "no." It's all such good theater, so the members of Congress have their pay, perks and privilege, and all the Astute Political Observers sell articles and watch the web hits come in.

If someone can refute this, I'd like to see it. But more, I'd like to see someone who has played this game through five-plus years of choom-smoke stand up and offer us a possible way out.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 09, 2013 12:28 PM (csjXD)

97 Also, I would like some Democrat (other than our inside man NCJ) to explain to me what "money" is.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 04:23 PM (PYAXX)


It's the root of all evil, duh! Which is why the evil 1%ers should cough some up for me or something.

Posted by: some Democrat at December 09, 2013 12:28 PM (W7ffl)

98 When I see it puffin' I'll be stuffin' your mcguffin.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 09, 2013 12:29 PM (6ahup)

99 The question is not if there is income inequality, or even if it has gotten worse... because it has... The middle class is getting hammered... and its even harder to break into the middle class... Average household incomes are down... the buying power of the dollar is down... There are enclaves of prosperity in various industries.... Banking and such... But the reason for this, is the Government itself... The dollar is weaker because of them printing dollars. The economy sucks because those who Create things are hammered by Government regulations, while those who just move money around are given deals which help them by the Government. So the only way the Government can solve the Income Disparity, is to get the hell out of the way...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 09, 2013 12:29 PM (lZBBB)

100

"Jim Jones, OTOH, actually achieved the dream."

 

 

Everyone is the same after drinking that sort of punch.  Really.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 09, 2013 12:29 PM (hLRSq)

101 Emotions tend to win arguments better than does logic. *ahem*

Posted by: Reality[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 09, 2013 12:30 PM (yz6yg)

102 But even in Cuba you only have equality for 95% or so. The upper nomenklatura does quite well and the actual rulers are fabulously rich. Same with North Korea. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 09, 2013 04:25 PM (dfYL9) Communism is Aristocracy by deception.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 09, 2013 12:30 PM (bb5+k)

103 I'm also pissed at the Malefactors of Great Wealth lately. Their bad behavior opened the doors for all this Leftist shit.

Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 12:30 PM (mcdVj)

104 *ahem* Posted by: Reality at December 09, 2013 04:30 PM (yz6yg) You don't win arguments. You win fights.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:30 PM (PYAXX)

105 It's not 'Top of the McGuffin, to YOU!!!'.

Posted by: Elaine Benes at December 09, 2013 12:30 PM (P6gd3)

106 The MacGuffin concept is hard enough to pass along among the right wing intellectuals, and we're smart, not like people say, like dumb. We can handle things. It's like some of the stuff on "Moonshiners". Undistillable.

Posted by: jwest at December 09, 2013 12:30 PM (u2a4R)

107 And also, the Great Thomas Sowell made this point near 20 years ago in Visions of the Anointed:

The rich are never the same people year-over-year.
Nor are the poor the same people year-over-year.

So, when you talk about solutions to solve these "problems" you will never be affecting the people you are talking about.





Posted by: RoyalOil at December 09, 2013 12:31 PM (VjL9S)

108 100 Jim Jones, OTOH, actually achieved the dream. He has never been given credit for this. Perfect equality, where even he was reduced to the same condition as the lowliest member of the community. Except he got all the poontang he wanted or demanded. Posted by: polynikes self proclaimed king of walked into a bar jokes at December 09, 2013 04:27 PM (m2CN7) He got a quick bullet to the head while most of his followers were forced to take or forcefully injected with cyanide and died painful deaths. Remember -- almost half of the dead were children. They did not sign up for that bullshit.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 12:31 PM (h4eud)

109

I like to ask liberals what the 'correct' income distribution is, what is the endpoint they want to get to.

never seem to get an answer.

 

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 09, 2013 12:31 PM (SO2Q8)

110 I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, a poet, a pawn and a king.  And I've still had all the good broads.  What's this shit?

Posted by: Frankie at December 09, 2013 12:32 PM (KQp38)

111

Obama and the weather underground don't need to put us in re-education camps, just kill us bitter clingers off with ObamaCare

 

 

Posted by: Spazz Ma Tazz at December 09, 2013 12:32 PM (W6iIX)

112

WHAT DO WE WANT?

Time travel!

WHEN DO WE WANT IT?

It's irrelevant!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 09, 2013 12:33 PM (32Ze2)

113 Do you know the McGuffin man?

Posted by: Bigby's Tiny Fists at December 09, 2013 12:33 PM (3ZtZW)

114 There are jackasses out there trying to rehabilitate the memory of Jonestown as a peaceful idyllic community dedicated to social justice. You may think it is crazy but some people are buying into it.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 12:33 PM (h4eud)

115 I'm also pissed at the Malefactors of Great Wealth lately. Their bad behavior opened the doors for all this Leftist shit. Dude, most of the time the Leftists are The Malefactors of Great Wealth...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, channelling Nicholson!Joker at December 09, 2013 12:33 PM (naUcP)

116 He got a quick bullet to the head while most of his followers were forced to take or forcefully injected with cyanide and died painful deaths. I knew a couple of the Army Mortuary Affairs guys who got sent down there to clean up that mess. They weren't real eager to talk about it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 09, 2013 12:33 PM (yz6yg)

117 I'm going to gush more about Ace's "MacGuffin" thing, because it's so damned good.

To a certain class of Obama fan, it doesn't matter what Obama's doing. Just the fact that he's doing it means that we support him, and we cheer his progress. 

--Sure, he ran against the individual mandate, but once he was in office and he was fighting the GOP over what would become Obamacare, it didn't matter what was in the bill. All that mattered was Obama's victory.

--Gay marriage? He was against it, but he was on a journey. A quest towards righteousness. We knew he'd get there. He'd triumph over his own limitations and the evil of the GOP. So even if he was a flawed hero, we knew he'd do the right thing in the end. So we cheered him even when he took a position that normally only bigots take.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at December 09, 2013 12:33 PM (xN1DB)

118 WHAT DO WE WANT? Time travel! WHEN DO WE WANT IT? It's irrelevant! I'm choking to death here.

Posted by: toby928© at December 09, 2013 12:33 PM (QupBk)

119

Barky's donations are down, right?

 

So he starts talking about 'Income Inequality'.

Which is just another way of agitating the Hate-the-Rich meme.

 

I smell another shakedown. 

 

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2013 12:33 PM (+SY5G)

120 Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 09, 2013 04:33 PM (32Ze2) But I want my time-travel machine to have an antenna held together by huge wads of chewing-gum.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:34 PM (PYAXX)

121 You don't win arguments.

You win fights.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 04:30 PM (PYAXX)

 

I tend to win both

 

eleventy!

 

Posted by: MATH at December 09, 2013 12:34 PM (W6iIX)

122 I tend to win both eleventy! Posted by: MATH at December 09, 2013 04:34 PM (W6iIX) Are you also somewhere on the Autism spectrum like most mathematicians?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 09, 2013 12:35 PM (yz6yg)

123 Don't try and threaten me, ace.

Picture being hauled off yelling, check the sock, check the sock.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 09, 2013 12:35 PM (DL2i+)

124 Emotions tend to win arguments better than does logic. Logic says a 2x4 upside some emo's head wins.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2013 12:35 PM (h1D+w)

125

ANARCHISTS OF THE WORLD UNITE!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 09, 2013 12:35 PM (32Ze2)

126 Wow, I go for a nap & there are 3 new threads, wtf? Must have been a killer nap.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 09, 2013 12:36 PM (HVff2)

127 I tend to win both eleventy! Posted by: MATH at December 09, 2013 04:34 PM (W6iIX) And I just START arguments...

Posted by: Statistics at December 09, 2013 12:36 PM (lZBBB)

128 All I remember of my senior year was watching H.R. MuguffinStuff stoned to the bejebbus.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 09, 2013 12:36 PM (6ahup)

129 The "Two Tribes" thought experiment is something that should be pounded every single time this comes up.

One village full of happy little peons weaves excellent baskets. Everyone uses their own basket to gather berries. Income: zero.

Another village makes excellent fishing spears. Everyone uses their own spear to catch fish. Income here also zero.

A dastardly forward-thinker spends his free time wandering around thinking "There -has- to be something other than fish!" and discovers the berry-village. He trades his spear for as basket.

1) Example of a true trade - both sides of the spear-for-basket trade happier with the result.
2) Instant income inequality, even if the explorer does nothing else.
3) Massive income inequality if he hires his son-in-law to make excess spears to continue the trading.
4) An example of something that (most likely) can -not- be fixed by explaining to everyone calmly "You should all make a basket and a spear, here's the manual." (Because 20% will always tell them to piss up a rope, they -like- making baskets. Or spears. Or whining.)
5) Forcible retraining also -not- going to make people happier here.

The part that's crucial is that this is a wealth-creating step. And every -other- wealth-creating step has the same key points.

Liberals seem firmly attached to the idea of a fixed-size pie. It drives more than half of the insanity. The mere ideas that the two parties to a trade can -both- end up happier (without one being delusional/deluded/exploited) and that wealth can be actually produced is pretty much fatal to the entire worldview. If they can be tricked into thinking about it.

Posted by: Al at December 09, 2013 12:36 PM (9ynpo)

130

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 09, 2013 04:28 PM (csjXD)

 

 

--------------------------------------------------

 

 

Rush, Beck, and Levin have all proposed solutions, each one taking a different branch of  the American psyche.  The problems this nation faces is not just economic.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 12:36 PM (Tx68O)

131 I just LOLd becoz MATH sez Eleventy

Posted by: Bigby's Tiny Fists at December 09, 2013 12:36 PM (3ZtZW)

132 Emotions tend to win arguments better than does logic.
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R: "[something, something] small businesses!!!"

D: "[something, something] working families!!"

Any wonder they keep losing?

David Horowitz has laid out the perfect counter--not that the So Fucking Stupid Party would use it--an endless parade of those hurt by Democrat policies.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 09, 2013 12:36 PM (VjL9S)

133 I knew a couple of the Army Mortuary Affairs guys who got sent down there to clean up that mess. They weren't real eager to talk about it. Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 09, 2013 04:33 PM (yz6yg) No, they had a horrible time. Finally, one came up with the idea that snow shovels would work best. Not easy to find in the tropics, so they had to be flown in.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 12:36 PM (h4eud)

134 >>I'm going to gush more >>Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete Well of course you are.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2013 12:37 PM (g1DWB)

135 Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 09, 2013 04:35 PM (yz6yg) Given what they've been doing to "the autism spectrum" lately, I'm pretty sure EVERYONE is on the autism spectrum.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:37 PM (PYAXX)

136 The dollar is weaker because of them printing dollars. Posted by: Romeo13 at December 09, 2013 04:29 PM (lZBBB) Just yesterday I saw a story on PBS (yes, I watch PBS) about "Berkshares." It seems that a county in Massachusetts has created a local currency and have been using it to encourage people buying local products and services. The currency is called "BerkShares" and it comes in denominations similar to US dollars. They even mention in the story that some people are regarding it as a hedge against the funny business the US government is pulling with all the printing of Dollars. I don't know how they are getting away with it other than the Fed-Gov deliberately looking the other way. If this is a doable thing, conservative portions of the country need to copy it. http://www.berkshares.org/

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 09, 2013 12:37 PM (bb5+k)

137 I once saw a post at the local library promoting a organizational meeting for anarchists.  I wish I would have taken a picture.  I laughed so hard I almost wet my pants.  This was during "BUSH'S WAR!111!!!!" Eleventy

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 09, 2013 12:38 PM (32Ze2)

138 121 Do you know the McGuffin man? Posted by: Bigby's Tiny Fists at December 09, 2013 04:33 PM (3ZtZW) That lives on Drury Lane?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 09, 2013 12:38 PM (lZBBB)

139

Posted by: Statistics at December 09, 2013 04:36 PM (lZBBB)

 

hey bro

Posted by: MATH at December 09, 2013 12:38 PM (W6iIX)

140 The Muslims' macguffin is, of course, the Jewish Menace.

Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 12:38 PM (mcdVj)

141 Think for yourself.

Posted by: Massed Produced Bumper Sticker at December 09, 2013 12:38 PM (6ahup)

142 11 Besides, all those super-duper expensive gadgets that the rich can buy and you want? You know how 3rd gen stuff is so much better and cheaper? That's because the rich are the beta testers. It goes on. Posted by: SFGoth at December 09, 2013 04:07 PM (1BKwW) I remember in the late 90s there was talk of a "digital divide" where the poor were at a disadvantage because they didn't have computers. At the time my computer was several years old. I thought, "Excuse me? The poor can go out and get a computer at least three times faster than mine for about a third of the price."

Posted by: rickl at December 09, 2013 12:38 PM (zoehZ)

143 When the fuck did I get laid off?

Posted by: Squirrel at December 09, 2013 12:38 PM (PRPp1)

144 109 Emotions tend to win arguments better than does logic. *ahem* Posted by: Reality at December 09, 2013 04:30 PM (yz6yg) Reality may assert, but in the meantime, those who throw the best emotional pitch generally win the majority. They bank on the reality coming along after the con-man has fled town.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 09, 2013 12:38 PM (bb5+k)

145 the Affordable Care Act–may now be hopelessly screwed up due to his own inattention and non-competence. non-competence Is that in the same realm as non-truth telling?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 09, 2013 12:38 PM (IXrOn)

146 No, they had a horrible time. Finally, one came up with the idea that snow shovels would work best. Not easy to find in the tropics, so they had to be flown in. AhÂ….you know then. That's exactly right. Talking to them I first learned about "skin slip" Which I then got to personally experience in Rwanda in 1994. Then I knew why they didn't talk so much about it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 09, 2013 12:38 PM (yz6yg)

147 Movie trivia: In his original post, Ace mentioned that movie MacGuffins need not be important but only seem important. In an early Hitchcock movie, The Lady Vanishes, the MacGuffin was a brief whistled melody that was supposedly a code.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 09, 2013 12:38 PM (j70cp)

148 You don't win arguments. You win fights. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 04:30 PM (PYAXX) An even better way of putting it.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 09, 2013 12:39 PM (bb5+k)

149 Unfortunately, it's a fully achievable RINO goal. It's like the Republicans are too dumb to realize that amnesty is just a McGuffin.

Posted by: t-bird at December 09, 2013 12:39 PM (FcR7P)

150 I knew a couple of the Army Mortuary Affairs guys who got sent down there to clean up that mess.

They weren't real eager to talk about it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 09, 2013 04:33 PM (yz6yg)

 

 

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I knew an NCO assigned to that detail.  "Mess" doesn't even begin  to describe it.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 12:39 PM (Tx68O)

151 Posted by: D-Lamp at December 09, 2013 04:37 PM (bb5+k) There is also a couple of online Barter systems starting... You do a job.... you get points... and then someone does something for you to redeem those points... Gonna be interesting to see what the IRS does to them...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 09, 2013 12:39 PM (lZBBB)

152
DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD UNTIE !!!

Posted by: fixerupper at December 09, 2013 12:40 PM (nELVU)

153

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 04:31 PM (h4eud)

 

yep, my point was he may have pretended to live in the same conditions but he ruled as a king who was able to covet and violate others  which is the furthest  thing  away from equality.

Posted by: polynikes self proclaimed king of walked into a bar jokes at December 09, 2013 12:40 PM (m2CN7)

154
I'm surprised the haven't broken out the Equal Rights Amendment, that hasn't been around for about 40 years.

Then again, they probably view that as a backward step with all the other PC crap they have now.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 09, 2013 12:40 PM (MaP11)

155 monorail .... Monorail ... MONORAIL!

Posted by: toby928© at December 09, 2013 12:40 PM (QupBk)

156 RUN HILLARY!  RUN!

Posted by: Bumper Sticker on My Front Bumper at December 09, 2013 12:40 PM (32Ze2)

157 151When the fuck did I get laid off?

Posted by: Squirrel at December 09, 2013 04:38 PM (PRPp1)

 

And how do I get laid off?

Posted by: The Chicken at December 09, 2013 12:40 PM (5iuEW)

158

>>>Example of a true trade - both sides of the spear-for-basket trade happier with the result.

 

WRONG. There wasn't any fishing spots at the berry-village to go spear fishing at. Berry-boy was hornswoggled by Teh Shiny.

Posted by: Bigby's Tiny Fists at December 09, 2013 12:40 PM (3ZtZW)

159

>>I'm going to gush more

>>Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete

 

 

I'll take that bet.

Posted by: Peter North at December 09, 2013 12:40 PM (P6gd3)

160 I have a solution to this. Tax the living shit out of Hollywood, Barry's pals at the big corporation like GE and Comcast, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and all of the holy than thou types who like to lecture everyone else and live by different rules.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 09, 2013 12:41 PM (1Jaio)

161 I knew an NCO assigned to that detail. "Mess" doesn't even begin to describe it.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 04:39 PM (Tx68O)

----------------------

most bodies exploded because of the heat and the sun.  The poison had that effect too.  Not pleasant is an understatement.

Posted by: Bumper Sticker on My Front Bumper at December 09, 2013 12:42 PM (32Ze2)

162 I hope they rectify the electricity inequality before I get home. Been off since 7am.

Posted by: RWC at December 09, 2013 12:42 PM (fWAjv)

163 There wasn't any fishing spots at the berry-village to go spear fishing at. Makes no matter. They used the spears to kill the hammock wearers and take their women.

Posted by: toby928© at December 09, 2013 12:42 PM (QupBk)

164 The Left can put forth Any Stupid idea and we'll sink our teeth in it. Changing the name of the Redskins, for example.

Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 12:42 PM (mcdVj)

165 The only place you will ever find equality is in the grave. It is also the only place where you are free from insecurity, from fear and hunger, from being offended, from being fatter or uglier, from being stupider or poorer, from being discriminated against or feeling inferior. Everything the Left professes to strive for can be found in death and death alone.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 09, 2013 12:43 PM (dfYL9)

166 I knew an NCO assigned to that detail. "Mess" doesn't even begin to describe it.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 04:39 PM (Tx68O)

 

 

how long before they showed up?

 

a week?

Posted by: MATH at December 09, 2013 12:43 PM (W6iIX)

167 Changing the name of the Redskins, for example. Actually, on that one, I think Bob Costas did us a huge favor. People seem to have decided, "Dang it! Bob Costas agrees with us! We must be wrong!"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:43 PM (PYAXX)

168 The dollar is weaker because of them printing dollars.
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In 1990, Kevin in Home Alone purchases $19.83 in groceries, that's $35.34 in today's dollars.

That's not taking into account the smaller volume of the same items sold today.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 09, 2013 12:43 PM (VjL9S)

169 Liberals seem firmly attached to the idea of a fixed-size pie.

The irony is that in a state that owns all property and means of production, it is essentially a fixed-size pie.  The only wealth that can be created is what can be grown or mined, processed and sold to buyers outside of the country.  The state "selling" goods to its own subjects just moves a finite amount of wealth around; it doesn't create any new wealth.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 09, 2013 12:43 PM (8ZskC)

170 "So the audience will just have to keep coming back, week after week, to be eternally teased that satisfaction is finally at hand..."

Ahh, the allure of Dear Leader's Utopia.

The downside? If the "peasants" follow too long, it will be into the grave. Maybe if the audience picked up a history book once in a while... *sigh*

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 09, 2013 12:44 PM (eHIJJ)

171 Changing the name of the Redskins, for example.

Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 04:42 PM (mcdVj)

____________________

At this point a name change might divert attention from how awful the team is.  Danny has broken yet another toy.  He's got money so he will just get another one.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 09, 2013 12:45 PM (32Ze2)

172 David Horowitz has laid out the perfect counter--not that the So Fucking Stupid Party would use it--an endless parade of those hurt by Democrat policies. Posted by: RoyalOil at December 09, 2013 04:36 PM (VjL9S) And if we could get them on that thing which transmits images to the American Public, it might actually be a workable idea. Unfortunately, Democrats guard every entrance.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 09, 2013 12:45 PM (bb5+k)

173
Changing the name of the Redskins, for example.

----

After that game yesterday..... not a bad idea actually.

Posted by: Redskins Fans Everywhere at December 09, 2013 12:45 PM (nELVU)

174 The state "selling" goods to its own subjects just moves a finite amount of wealth around; it doesn't create any new wealth. In truth, it destroys wealth. This is because whoever does the moving around ALSO has to get paid from that same-sized pie, leaving less to move around.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:45 PM (PYAXX)

175 Which reminds me of Ötzi, the Ice Man. I remember when he was found there was all this speculation that he was a peaceful trader yada yada. It's turned out that he was more likely the last survivor of a raiding party. DNA showed that he had other people's blood on his hands and arms, and one guys blood all down his back, as though he had fireman carried a wounded comrade.

Posted by: toby928© at December 09, 2013 12:45 PM (QupBk)

176 Or, as Lady Thatcher once said: "eventually you run out of other people's money."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:45 PM (PYAXX)

177 The funny thing about Jonestown is that it still broke down along racial lines: the minorities were the thugs or did physical labor while the whites were part of the hierarchy and did office work.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 12:45 PM (h4eud)

178 133 ANARCHISTS OF THE WORLD UNITE! - YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR WORLDVIEW!

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 09, 2013 12:46 PM (j70cp)

179 102 Jim Jones, OTOH, actually achieved the dream. He has never been given credit for this. Saving the taxpayers millions of dollars in SS, Welfare and Disability benefits that his "followers" were getting. That is what financed the entire operation.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 09, 2013 12:46 PM (0FSuD)

180 Posted by: Al at December 09, 2013 04:36 PM (9ynpo) the problem becomes when the guy delivering Berrys and spears is taking so much from the producers of those objects... that he is the only one happy after a short while. Or when the village elders say, even though you have a berry basket, you may not pick berries, because you are from the wrong village.... and if you want to pick berries, you must pay a tax to the other village... ie join the Berry Pickers Local 434 Union... Free trade does work... right up until the Government gets involved, and it rapidly becomes UN Free...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 09, 2013 12:46 PM (lZBBB)

181 how long before they showed up?

a week?

Posted by: MATH at December 09, 2013 04:43 PM (W6iIX)

 

 

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Not sure.  But this was in the tropics.  And from my experience with this in Vietnam, it doesn't  take but a few hours for  dead things to go really bad.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 12:47 PM (Tx68O)

182 Pet peave alert.  The smaller packages in stores, most pronounced is the cereal aisle.  Some of those boxes are as this as an envelope.  Pathetic. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 09, 2013 12:47 PM (32Ze2)

183

168 I have a solution to this. Tax the living shit out of Hollywood...

 

The last time the JEF's Hollywood donations were down...he started talking about doing away with the Charitable Donation deduction.

It was a shakedown.

It worked like a charm.

 

Which is why this renewed talk about 'income inequality' seems like the makings for another shakedown.

 

Message to the Rich:

"Donate to Dems, or we will unleash hell on you."

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2013 12:47 PM (+SY5G)

184

>>>"eventually you run out of other people's money."

 

Or, you know, start purgin'.

Posted by: Bigby's Tiny Fists at December 09, 2013 12:47 PM (3ZtZW)

185 Growing income inequality is largely or entirely an artifact of inflation. Incomes of the successful tend to go up if for no other reason than the cost of living, meanwhile it is always possible to earn and have nothing. Thus the gap between top and bottom is continually and artificially stretched. At the same time, we keep redefining "poverty". There was a time when a king had no access to clean water, or safe food, or a competent doctor, or even indoor plumbing. He certainly didn't have a telephone, or TV, or internet, and he likely never traveled more than a few miles from the place he was born - and that by horse. The poorest among us is rich beyond the wildest imagination of kings of old, and would even be considered rich by the standards of my grandparents. Very few can honestly be considered "poor" by the standards of the bulk of humanity or the witness of history.

Posted by: whoever at December 09, 2013 12:47 PM (zu9Ee)

186

Kaus is a fag. "Inequality" is not a "problem", and fuck him for challenging the left at their commie games.

 

Fucking retards

Posted by: bitchka at December 09, 2013 12:48 PM (qPxLX)

187 Hey, did you hear Ace wrote a post about the MacGuffinization of politics? Kaus' MacGuffin supports Ace's MacGuffin. MacGuffin, MacGuffin. MacGuffin!

Posted by: MacGuffin at December 09, 2013 12:48 PM (TXmih)

188 In 1980,my dad broke his ass to buy us a new Intellivision console for Christmas. He paid $300 then, worth $850 today.

Makes the new Playstations and Xboxes seem like a relative bargain!

Posted by: Biff Boffo at December 09, 2013 12:48 PM (YmPwQ)

189

190 Pet peave alert. The smaller packages in stores, most pronounced is the cereal aisle. Some of those boxes are as this as an envelope. Pathetic.

 

And now...they're even making Toilet Paper rolls narrower.

In other words, smaller. 

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2013 12:48 PM (+SY5G)

190 The entire concept of Socialism is inherently childish, or child-like, if you prefer. We might as well be debating the merits if 'time-outs' and 'nap time' for adults. Oh wait, we adults do that now, too.

Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 12:49 PM (mcdVj)

191 When the fuck did I get laid off?

Posted by: at December 09, 2013 04:38 PM (PRPp1)

*


Screw you pal...you know how long we've been at this shit.     

Posted by: Shiny Objects Coalition at December 09, 2013 12:49 PM (wmU4G)

192 wait, what?! I have an old intellivision! it's worth something?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 09, 2013 12:49 PM (EZNxq)

193 168 I have a solution to this. Tax the living shit out of Hollywood, Barry's pals at the big corporation like GE and Comcast, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and all of the holy than thou types who like to lecture everyone else and live by different rules. Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 09, 2013 04:41 PM (1Jaio) I like this plan. I would also like to see a plan that specifically taxes Liberal Democrats. Unfortunately you just can't say you want to tax Liberal Democrats, so the next best thing is to simply tax an industry of which they are the most numerous. Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts!!!!

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 09, 2013 12:49 PM (bb5+k)

194 WRONG. There wasn't any fishing spots at the berry-village to go spear fishing at. Berry-boy was hornswoggled by Teh Shiny. Posted by: Bigby's Tiny Fists at December 09, 2013 04:40 PM (3ZtZW) So they took their 'fishing' spears... and went one more village over... and TOOK what they wanted...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 09, 2013 12:49 PM (lZBBB)

195 How many Dems who blather about income inequality would give up all of their income above the national median, in order to help poor people?

Posted by: Bud Norton at December 09, 2013 12:50 PM (6cOMd)

196 And now...they're even making Toilet Paper rolls narrower. In other words, smaller. That's okay. You only need one square anyway.

Posted by: Sheryl Crow at December 09, 2013 12:50 PM (PYAXX)

197 It's like the sign above the bar that only reads FREE BEER TOMORROW!

Posted by: @ParisParamus at December 09, 2013 12:50 PM (Gcm3A)

198 Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts Subsidies!!!!

Posted by: toby928© at December 09, 2013 12:50 PM (QupBk)

199

>>>The entire concept of Socialism is inherently childish, or child-like, if you prefer.

 

Tru dat!

 

We almost starved thy'n to make that sh*t work

 

Posted by: The Pilgrims at December 09, 2013 12:50 PM (W6iIX)

200 We might as well be debating the merits if 'time-outs' and 'nap time' for adults.

Oh wait, we adults do that now, too.







Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 04:49 PM (mcdVj)

 

I'd be perfectly happy with nap time.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 09, 2013 12:50 PM (DrWcr)

201 The dollar is weaker because of them printing dollars. Devaluing the dollar bill helps only (1) debtors, and (2) strip club patrons.

Posted by: wooga at December 09, 2013 12:51 PM (TXmih)

202

>>>>MacGuffin, MacGuffin. MacGuffin!

 

Malkovich! Malkovich!

Posted by: Bigby's Tiny Fists at December 09, 2013 12:51 PM (3ZtZW)

203

"so far hasn’t done anything to stop growing income inequality–the problem has gotten worse "

 

Yeah that and Global Warming. Idiot.

Posted by: bitchka at December 09, 2013 12:52 PM (qPxLX)

204 I have an urge to summon Biggie Smalls.

Posted by: toby928© at December 09, 2013 12:52 PM (QupBk)

205 In 1990, Kevin in Home Alone purchases $19.83 in groceries, that's $35.34 in today's dollars. That's not taking into account the smaller volume of the same items sold today. Posted by: RoyalOil at December 09, 2013 04:43 PM (VjL9S) I'm all too aware of what Government printing policy (and other policies) are doing to saved money. Money which I earned and banked in 1980 is worth considerably less than what it was when I put it in the bank. Inflation is just another tax imposed upon us by people who refuse to control spending.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 09, 2013 12:52 PM (bb5+k)

206 I'd be perfectly happy with nap time. And we already do "time-outs" for adults. It's called "prison," or at least "house arrest."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:52 PM (PYAXX)

207 Devaluing the dollar bill helps only (1) debtors, and (2) strip club patrons. Posted by: wooga at December 09, 2013 04:51 PM (TXmih) Annndddd.... just what entity is the Greatest debtor in the History of Man? can you say.... the US Government???

Posted by: Romeo13.. at December 09, 2013 12:53 PM (lZBBB)

208 We almost starved thy'n to make that sh*t work Posted by: The Pilgrims at December 09, 2013 04:50 PM (W6iIX) Verily I say to thee, true, but it helped me nail the fair Priscilla. Word.

Posted by: John Alden[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 09, 2013 12:53 PM (yz6yg)

209 So, is it settled? Ace is getting a dogg?

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 12:53 PM (h4eud)

210 The entire concept of Socialism is inherently childish, or child-like, if you prefer.

We might as well be debating the merits if 'time-outs' and 'nap time' for adults.

Oh wait, we adults do that now, too.

Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 04:49 PM (mcdVj)

**



Never underestimate the power of a 20 minute nap, does wonders for the libido.
 

Posted by: Abe Bogota at December 09, 2013 12:53 PM (wmU4G)

211 Devaluing the dollar bill helps only (1) debtors, and (2) strip club patrons.

Posted by: wooga at December 09, 2013 04:51 PM (TXmih)

 

When is the last time you had a $5 lap dance?

Posted by: Candy and Sin-dy at December 09, 2013 12:53 PM (W6iIX)

212 In 1980,my dad broke his ass to buy us a new Intellivision console for Christmas. He paid $300 then, worth $850 today.

Makes the new Playstations and Xboxes seem like a relative bargain!

Posted by: Biff Boffo at December 09, 2013 04:48 PM (YmPwQ)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

I've got one better.  In 1967  I bought a Chevy Rally Sport Camero for $3500 brand new.

 

In 1959, I had to have a hernia operation  (major surgery at the time) and I remember my dad paying for all of it including a week's stay at the hospital with a check.  And my dad was not a rich man.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 12:53 PM (Tx68O)

213 So, is it settled? Ace is getting a dogg? I'm only okay with this plan if he gets a real dog. Not one some kick-me variety. I think Ace needs a Boxer or a Lab.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:54 PM (PYAXX)

214 The first dollar I ever earned is now worth 13 cents.

Posted by: toby928© at December 09, 2013 12:54 PM (QupBk)

215 I have an urge to summon Biggie Smalls.

Sometimes his words just hypnotize me.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 09, 2013 12:55 PM (ZKzrr)

216

198
The entire concept of Socialism is inherently childish, or child-like, if you prefer.

 

Which is why the libprogs have worked so hard to create a generation of perpetual children.

 

The concept of Socialism only appeals to a child-like mentality.

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2013 12:55 PM (+SY5G)

217 I guess you can have my gun now.

Posted by: Zombie Charlton Heston at December 09, 2013 12:55 PM (32Ze2)

218 The concept of Socialism only appeals to a child-like mentality. No, the child-like concept of Socialism only appeals to a child-like mentality. The real concept of Socialism appeals to thugs, bullies, and thieves.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:56 PM (PYAXX)

219 So, is it settled? Ace is getting a dogg?

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 04:53 PM (h4eud)

**




May I suggest a Beagle? You can never go wrong with a Beagle. Love my Beagle. Best Beagle ever.




Posted by: dananjcon at December 09, 2013 12:57 PM (wmU4G)

220 The concept of Socialism only appeals to a child-like mentality. Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2013 04:55 PM (+SY5G) And for further validation of this point I offerÂ…. our trolls. Where has erg been lately anyway? Curled in a fetal position in Mom's basement?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 09, 2013 12:57 PM (yz6yg)

221 Where has erg been lately anyway? He's a Healthcare.gov navigator,

Posted by: toby928© at December 09, 2013 12:58 PM (QupBk)

222 Where has erg been lately anyway? I think he just got sentenced to 3 mos house arrest.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 12:58 PM (PYAXX)

223 May I suggest a Beagle? You can never go wrong with a Beagle. Except for the howling. I'll stick with my BoxerÂ…or MastiffÂ….or Bernese Mountain DogÂ…orÂ….

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 09, 2013 12:58 PM (yz6yg)

224 income inequality.

Apparently utopia is too big a step all at once and we have to get to heaven one baby step at a time. So income inequality can easily be achieved if we all just work for the Federal Government at prevailing union scale wages with generous benefits and high quality Cadillac health insurance coverage. Then we will all be equal.

No reasonable person would actually want some people to be forced to work for less than union scale. That's why everyone supports the minimum wage. Everyone should all be paid equally for the work they do.

We should also be well aware of housing inequality. There are simply too many people who have more house than they need. Either they should be required to share some of that living space, or perhaps pay a house tax that would equalize the disparity between those multimillion dollar estates and the poor shanty towns the homeless have to live in. That could be easily solved by simply abolishing private property. So if you wanted to live in say one of those big multimillion dollar mansions, you just move in and claim your fair share. That would be fair.

Posted by: Paperback Writer at December 09, 2013 12:59 PM (rla8o)

225 Can we somehow convince Obama that the MacGuffin he wants is a "two-state solution on American soil"? I don't want anything to do with these people that can't be done looking across a national border.

Posted by: Sudden Clarity Clarence at December 09, 2013 12:59 PM (2tjte)

226 No, the child-like concept of Socialism only appeals to a child-like mentality. The real concept of Socialism appeals to thugs, bullies, and thieves.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 04:56 PM (PYAXX)



You just described the dems and their useful idiot followers.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 09, 2013 01:00 PM (FMbng)

227 Can we somehow convince Obama that the MacGuffin he wants is a "two-state solution on American soil"? I don't want anything to do with these people that can't be done looking across a national border. I like this plan.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 01:00 PM (PYAXX)

228

May I suggest a Beagle? You can never go wrong with a Beagle.

 

Except for the howling.

I'll stick with my BoxerÂ…or MastiffÂ….or Bernese Mountain DogÂ…orÂ….

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 09, 2013 04:58 PM (yz6yg)

 

 

--------------------------------------------------

 

 

I'll  stick with my cats.  Dogs are too noisy.  Even the well-behaved ones.  They're like clingy,  dependent, must-have-all-the-attention  girlfriends.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 01:01 PM (Tx68O)

229 You just described the dems and their useful idiot followers. Yeah. I know.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 01:01 PM (nUH8H)

230 May I suggest a Beagle? You can never go wrong with a Beagle.

Except for the howling.

I'll stick with my BoxerÂ…or MastiffÂ….or Bernese Mountain DogÂ…orÂ….

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 09, 2013 04:58 PM (yz6yg)

**


My Beagle doesn't bay, howl or bark. No shittin. like I said...the Best Beagle EVAH!!  Boxers are cool dogs as well, on my short list when the Best Beagle Evah!! takes a dirt nap. 


**sniff**





Posted by: dananjcon at December 09, 2013 01:01 PM (wmU4G)

231 Want income inequality? First step: Maximum salaries for anyone who is a member of the bar association. This can be done because if they don't accept it, they get cut from the bar association. It won't effect workaday lawyers, just the rich ones. There are a lot of diamond-studded cufflinks on the egalitarians. A lot of them.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 09, 2013 01:01 PM (T0NGe)

232 Ace is a city boy. He lives in an apt. He needs an appropriately sized doggy friend.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 01:02 PM (h4eud)

233 Women in Binders!

Posted by: Famous MacGuffins at December 09, 2013 01:02 PM (MMC8r)

234 This goes for education funding as well. It is never enough because you can always spend more. Double education funding tomorrow and libtards will say it's not enough. Double it again, and it's not enough.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 09, 2013 01:03 PM (0LHZx)

235

227...No, the child-like concept of Socialism only appeals to a child-like mentality. The real concept of Socialism appeals to thugs, bullies, and thieves.

 

But AllenG...

What are "thugs, bullies and thieves"?

It can be argued that they are stuck in the arrested development level of two-year-olds.

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2013 01:03 PM (+SY5G)

236 Ace is a city boy. He lives in an apt. He needs an appropriately sized doggy friend.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 05:02 PM (h4eud)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

A little yappy chiluahua perhaps.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 01:04 PM (Tx68O)

237 Small dogs make good paper weights. They sleep on your desk. When you need to pet something warm and furry and appreciative, they are just there.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 01:04 PM (h4eud)

238

Ace should get a Corgi.

Think about how much taller he'll look.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2013 01:04 PM (P6gd3)

239 GAY MARRIAGE!!!!

Posted by: Famous MacGuffins at December 09, 2013 01:05 PM (MMC8r)

240 You just described the dems and their useful idiot followers. The Party Of Lee Harvey Oswald.

Posted by: t-bird at December 09, 2013 01:05 PM (FcR7P)

241 I think Ace needs a Boxer or a Lab Feinstein.

Fixed.

Posted by: come on, we were all thinking it at December 09, 2013 01:06 PM (8b2sh)

242 Small dogs make good paper weights.

Good tacos, too.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 09, 2013 01:06 PM (ZKzrr)

243 What you saw was obviously the planet Venus.

Posted by: Jose Chung at December 09, 2013 01:06 PM (vH4YP)

244 ATMs!

Posted by: Infamous MacGuffins at December 09, 2013 01:06 PM (P6gd3)

245 TRAYVON!

Posted by: Famous MacGuffins at December 09, 2013 01:07 PM (MMC8r)

246 Lord Of The Flies society

Posted by: soothie at December 09, 2013 01:07 PM (mcdVj)

247 Ace needs a dog he can carry around in a Man Purse, ala Paris Hilton.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 09, 2013 01:08 PM (32Ze2)

248 Global Warming And Cooling!

Posted by: AssMunch MacGuffins at December 09, 2013 01:08 PM (FcR7P)

249 I could really go for a Egg & Squirrel MacGuffin right about now. Is the appropriate pairing red wine, or white?

Posted by: jakeman at December 09, 2013 01:08 PM (vH4YP)

250 'Bama phos!

Posted by: Famous McGuffeners at December 09, 2013 01:08 PM (Tx68O)

251 BEER SUMMIT!

Posted by: Another MacGuffin at December 09, 2013 01:09 PM (32Ze2)

252

Ace needs a dog he can carry around in a Man Purse

 

It's European!

Posted by: Jerry at December 09, 2013 01:09 PM (P6gd3)

253 Ace needs a dog he can carry around in a Man Purse He'd be good with that. His Man Card was confiscated years ago.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 09, 2013 01:09 PM (yz6yg)

254 Ace is a city boy. He lives in an apt. He needs an appropriately sized doggy friend. Definitely a Great Dane, Mastiff, or Irish Wolf Hound then.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2013 01:09 PM (h1D+w)

255 Is the appropriate pairing red wine, or white?

Ripple.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 09, 2013 01:10 PM (ZKzrr)

256

What do all of Barky's MacGuffins have in common?

 

They are all designed to...agitate.

 

They all require demagoguery to make them appeal to his target audience.

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2013 01:10 PM (+SY5G)

257 Tiny, puny, very very small strike on Syria.

Posted by: Another MacGuffin at December 09, 2013 01:10 PM (32Ze2)

258

Days, not weeks, spent bombing Libya

Posted by: Another MacGuffin at December 09, 2013 01:11 PM (32Ze2)

259

Days, not weeks, spent bombing Libya

Posted by: Another MacGuffin at December 09, 2013 01:11 PM (32Ze2)

260 If he's that concerned about income inequality how about an ad campaign targeted at black youth - "Speak English to get a job - just like Obama did".

Posted by: JEM at December 09, 2013 01:12 PM (M3WNi)

261 If he's that concerned about income inequality how about an ad campaign targeted at black youth - "Speak English to get a job - just like Obama did".

Posted by: JEM at December 09, 2013 01:12 PM (M3WNi)

262 As stated before, I'm no mathematician. However. The poor will always have the equivalent of zero. The rich become exponentially more rich. Thus the income gap widens.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 09, 2013 01:12 PM (/djtm)

263 The moderate Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Famous McGuffeners at December 09, 2013 01:12 PM (Tx68O)

264 As stated before, I'm no mathematician. However. The poor will always have the equivalent of zero. The rich become exponentially more rich. Thus the income gap widens.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 09, 2013 01:12 PM (/djtm)

265 The moderate Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Famous McGuffeners at December 09, 2013 01:12 PM (Tx68O)

266 Starting to smell like a three-week-old MacGuffin in here.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 09, 2013 01:12 PM (pj6Nr)

267 Starting to smell like a three-week-old MacGuffin in here.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 09, 2013 01:12 PM (pj6Nr)

268 Ripple. Green apple, or Razzleberry?

Posted by: jakeman at December 09, 2013 01:12 PM (vH4YP)

269 Ripple. Green apple, or Razzleberry?

Posted by: jakeman at December 09, 2013 01:12 PM (vH4YP)

270 Nobody will read this comment - but the MacGuffin article was the most insightful and original political observation that I've read in the past five years. Bravo, bravo, meant non-ironically. Dude you have come up with such an original observation, not like most columnists who just massage messages

Posted by: Erik at December 09, 2013 01:13 PM (LPklz)

271 Nobody will read this comment - but the MacGuffin article was the most insightful and original political observation that I've read in the past five years. Bravo, bravo, meant non-ironically. Dude you have come up with such an original observation, not like most columnists who just massage messages

Posted by: Erik at December 09, 2013 01:13 PM (LPklz)

272 Green apple, or Razzleberry?

They don't make a snozzberry?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 09, 2013 01:14 PM (ZKzrr)

273 Hi Erik.  I read it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 09, 2013 01:15 PM (32Ze2)

274 Ace could steal that idea from that chick and take photos of him and his new doggy sleeping together.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 01:15 PM (h4eud)

275 270 If he's that concerned about income inequality how about an ad campaign targeted at black youth - "Speak English to get a job - just like Obama did". Stay clean (no tats and dreads) and become articulate.

Posted by: Joey Biden at December 09, 2013 01:15 PM (/TxIY)

276

Ripple.

 

Green apple, or Razzleberry?

Posted by: jakeman at December 09, 2013 05:12 PM (vH4YP)

 

 

--------------------------------------------------

 

 

Fuck Ripple.  Thunderbird or Mad Dog.

 

 

 

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 01:16 PM (Tx68O)

277 "Ace is a city boy. He lives in an apt. He needs an appropriately sized doggy friend." How about a dogfish?

Posted by: whoever at December 09, 2013 01:16 PM (zu9Ee)

278 They don't make a snozzberry?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 09, 2013 05:14 PM (ZKzrr)

______________________

Mr Wonka does!  Or should I say his Handi-capable green helpers.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 09, 2013 01:16 PM (32Ze2)

279 Posted by: Lace Wigs at December 09, 2013 05:15 PM (oGrEy) We call it Autumn.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 09, 2013 01:16 PM (/TxIY)

280 So, MacGuffin's scottish for squirrel?

Posted by: Blackadder, ya goon! at December 09, 2013 01:17 PM (PMGbu)

281 Dear conservative supporters of Syria intervention:

"Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh has dropped yet another bombshell allegation: President Obama wasn't honest with the American people when he blamed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for a sarin-gas attack in that killed hundreds of civilians.

...

Here's what Hersh alleges:

The administration buried intelligence on the fundamentalist group/rebel group al-Nusra. It was seen, Hersh says, as an alarming threat by May, with the U.S. being aware of al-Nusra member able to make and use sarin, and yet the group – associated with the rebel opposition in Syria – was never considered a suspect in the sarin attacks. "

Now tell us, just how stupid do you feel? I mean, you have to feel pretty stupid at this point. Like really stupid.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 09, 2013 01:18 PM (B0gqn)

282 267 What do all of Barky's MacGuffins have in common? They are all designed to...agitate. They all require demagoguery to make them appeal to his target audience. Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2013 05:10 PM (+SY5G) ------------------------ Yep. All designed to divide us and rile up the mob against the "enemy." But that's what a "community organizer" (political agitator and shakedown artist) does.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 09, 2013 01:18 PM (dfYL9)

283 According to the Congressional Budget Office, the top 40% paid 106% of all income taxes. The bottom 40% paid -9%, getting instead an average of $19,000 in ‘transfers.’

Tell me again how I'm not paying my 'fair share.'

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 09, 2013 01:19 PM (+YFcy)

284 Emotions tend to win arguments better than does logic.

*ahem*

Posted by: Reality at December 09, 2013 04:30 PM (yz6yg)



I keep trying to tell them.

Posted by: Gods of the Copybook Headings at December 09, 2013 01:19 PM (yh0zB)

285

Agitate is codeword for piss-off

 

dogwhistle stuff

Posted by: Tank the Frank at December 09, 2013 01:21 PM (W6iIX)

286 Obama is the Justin Bieber of politics. Period.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:23 PM (M8OWQ)

287 And the middle class!

Posted by: Jay at December 09, 2013 01:24 PM (6cJYl)

288 Mr. President, Mr. President, why shouldn't a more productive person earn more than a less productive person? You Communist cock sucker.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:24 PM (M8OWQ)

289 Linked on Drudge: Zimmerman's girlfriend says she was intimidated by the cops and they misunderstood her and she lied and she wants the charges dropped and to have Zimmerman back. Run, George, run like the wind!

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 09, 2013 01:25 PM (j70cp)

290 Mr. President, Mr. President, why do you hate the Principles (sic) of Supply and Demand, the Free Market, and Capitalism (Inequality)? You Communist cock sucker.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:26 PM (M8OWQ)

291 Linked on Drudge: Zimmerman's girlfriend says she was intimidated by the cops and they misunderstood her and she lied and she wants the charges dropped and to have Zimmerman back.

-----

Oh FFS!

Posted by: fixerupper at December 09, 2013 01:26 PM (nELVU)

292 We're eating this income equality shit right up. It sounds so good coming from the Preezy!

Posted by: Low Information Voters at December 09, 2013 01:26 PM (Dwehj)

293 Haven't FDR and Johnson already won the War on Inequality?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:27 PM (M8OWQ)

294 288 According to the Congressional Budget Office, the top 40% paid 106% of all income taxes. The bottom 40% paid -9%, getting instead an average of $19,000 in ‘transfers.’ - Is this the income inequality Barky's been talking about?

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 09, 2013 01:27 PM (j70cp)

295 Every candidate for anything in any coming election should highlight several facts that have been purposely ignored by the press. The main fact concerning income inequality should be how fast Obama eliminated school choice in Washington D.C. They should highlight the fact that for the money spent to set up Obamacare, each citizen could have been given at least $50,000. That would have been a big step towards income equality. If every candidate for everything says the facts- and there are lots- the word will trickle down to even the lowest LIV's. We have to inform people of what has been going on. The NSA crap got through to the youth, and the rest of the people can be reached, too, if they are made aware.

Posted by: Chilling the most at December 09, 2013 01:28 PM (gxtMZ)

296 If there was not racist opposition to our wise President's policies by entrenched corporate interests and the "international banking community that hates the Palestinian people", then we would not have this problem.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 09, 2013 01:28 PM (7ppVp)

297 1. Raise the minimum wage! Because the Middle Class. 2. Fight income inequality! Because the Middle Class. 3. Praise the Great Lenin! Because the Middle Class. The three principles of Obamaism.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:29 PM (M8OWQ)

298 294 Linked on Drudge: Zimmerman's girlfriend says she was intimidated by the cops and they misunderstood her and she lied and she wants the charges dropped and to have Zimmerman back. Run, George, run like the wind! Posted by: WalrusRex at December 09, 2013 05:25 PM (j70cp) Too, late. He is the one who filed for a modification of the TRO so he can have access to her. He filed her affidavit swearing that she wuvs wuvs wuvs him with it. Zimmerman is again a victim of the boobies!

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 01:30 PM (h4eud)

299 O/T  but I just love the picture of that wonderful Marine posted over at Weasel Zippers.  95 years old, in uniform, saluting.   

Posted by: grammie (cuz mama is way way old) winger at December 09, 2013 01:30 PM (P6QsQ)

300 "b. He doesn’t have any proposals (“It’s time to pass the Paycheck Fairness Act”) that come close to solving the problem as he defines it. c. His one big previous initiative to reduce inequality–the Affordable Care Act–may now be hopelessly screwed up due to his own inattention and non-competence." By maximizing poverty, Obama is actually minimizing income inequality.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:30 PM (M8OWQ)

301 Forward!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:30 PM (M8OWQ)

302 There are "folks" in the company I work for that run home in December so not to cufk with their EITC. But heard on the radio today that the French Republicans want to increae EITC not minimum wage.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 09, 2013 01:30 PM (/TxIY)

303 "to discover, once again, that the Cigarette Smoking Man's identity has once again been obscured."


And we'll never know what was in the Pulp Fiction briefcase.

Posted by: Percy Gryce at December 09, 2013 01:31 PM (/JTkz)

304 Ace needs an affenpinscher.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 09, 2013 01:31 PM (Y92Nd)

305 @286 - there's no such thing as a conservative supporter oft the Syria nonsense.

Posted by: JEM at December 09, 2013 01:31 PM (j6Axb)

306 Obama's friends get rich,just like Putin's friends.

Posted by: steevy at December 09, 2013 01:31 PM (zqvg6)

307 Ace needs a Cockapoo.



I denounce myself. 

Posted by: grammie (cuz mama is way way old) winger at December 09, 2013 01:31 PM (P6QsQ)

308 @310-half?

Posted by: JEM at December 09, 2013 01:33 PM (j6Axb)

309 Ace is an ewok, though. People will ask aloud when they see Ace and his dog trotting down the street: "Is that a dog walking an ewok or an ewok walking a dog?"

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 09, 2013 01:33 PM (oFCZn)

310 "Greater income equality–quintile shares, Gini coefficients and the rest–is the Great MacGuffin of the Democratic base. It’s a goal they will never reach. Deep down they know they will never reach it. But that doesn’t matter because the goal itself holds their coalition together and gives them a reason to go on." What most Leftists really, really want to hear is that the Government loves them. And, well, it doesn't. Obama's kind of a giant "racist" and homosexual supremacist, but that's about it.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:33 PM (M8OWQ)

311 Obama doesn't care about the Middle Class.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:34 PM (M8OWQ)

312 He really doesn't.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:34 PM (M8OWQ)

313 You notice how gay SOA is? They are always hugging and patting each others asses and saying, I love you man! at least 20x a day.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 01:34 PM (h4eud)

314 296 Linked on Drudge: Zimmerman's girlfriend says she was intimidated by the cops and they misunderstood her and she lied and she wants the charges dropped and to have Zimmerman back. Apropos, considering the cat/dog video.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 09, 2013 01:35 PM (T0NGe)

315 Zimmerman is again a victim of the boobies! his own stupidity.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 05:30 PM (h4eud)




It's almost as if he thinks he should have been convicted so he keeps doing stupid shit so he can get arrested again.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 09, 2013 01:35 PM (yh0zB)

316 The ghettos and the gated communities, a little bit. The Middle Class, not so much.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:35 PM (M8OWQ)

317 @286 - there's no such thing as a conservative supporter oft the Syria nonsense.

Posted by: JEM

Huge Hewitt, Midol Medved, and Dennis (WTF?) Prager were all for it.

And passel of numpties in the blogosphere were as well.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 09, 2013 01:35 PM (B0gqn)

318 So there's that.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:35 PM (M8OWQ)

319 "Is that a dog walking an ewok or an ewok walking a dog?"

He could get a Newfie and a saddle.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 09, 2013 01:36 PM (ZKzrr)

320

A MacGuffin walks into a bar.  

 

The bartender says " where have you been? A lot of people have been  trying to get ahold  of  you "

Posted by: polynikes self proclaimed king of walked into a bar jokes at December 09, 2013 01:36 PM (m2CN7)

321 OK Barry,

Let's make all those $172K+ Government Employee salaries equal to the average wage in the private sector.

Posted by: TexBob at December 09, 2013 01:37 PM (/1uBS)

322 BTW, just because Stilettos is in my handle, everybody tell Santa he's SOOO Dead if he gets me these, http://www.herroom.com/kayanna-b15175s-shooozzzee-flannel-pj-set.shtml

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Weary and Wary at December 09, 2013 01:37 PM (kXoT0)

323 Obama also loves unions. Because the Middle Class.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:38 PM (M8OWQ)

324 I couldn't get my MacGuffin and coffee the other day because the workers were on strike.

Posted by: Low Information Voter at December 09, 2013 01:38 PM (Dwehj)

325 My last night working before  I go on vacation.  It'll be good to try to get away from the craziness.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 01:39 PM (Tx68O)

326 Oh look, one of the students in my class is going to go on and anti-catholic screed. Damned leash. It tugs so bad. (But I need even this work.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at December 09, 2013 01:40 PM (a8eFL)

327 It's a lot more "stress free" than being a software developer. Or, I posit, a plumber or electrician.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) working from home at December 09, 2013 04:13 PM (PYAXX)


At work, we actually have a master electrician who became a programmer because of chronic bursitis in both shoulders from pulling wire.  I don't know him well, but, he seems happy with the switch.  No pun intended. 

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Weary and Wary at December 09, 2013 01:41 PM (kXoT0)

328 330 My last night working before I go on vacation. It'll be good to try to get away from the craziness. Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 05:39 PM (Tx68O) You're here. You're soaking in the crazy.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 09, 2013 01:41 PM (oFCZn)

329 Just imagine Ace is the one wearing the onsie and or diaper: http://goo.gl/cDO7UA

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 09, 2013 01:41 PM (h4eud)

330 I think  I can safely declare this thread as mostly dead.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 01:42 PM (Tx68O)

331

Posted by: grammie (cuz mama is way way old) winger at December 09, 2013 05:30 PM (P6QsQ)

 

Mama winger,

In my family, the word 'Grandma' is never used...or 'Grandpa' either.

 

Once you're a 'mama', you're always a mama.

When you become a grandmother...your name is simply added to 'mama'...making you, "Mama Sarah", for example.

 

With dads, it is 'Papa'-something.

 

Maybe it's a southern thing.

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2013 01:42 PM (+SY5G)

332 You're here. You're soaking in the crazy.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 09, 2013 05:41 PM (oFCZn)

 

 

--------------------------------------

 

 

But I won't be when  I'm there.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 01:43 PM (Tx68O)

333 331 Oh look, one of the students in my class is going to go on and anti-catholic screed.
**********

I always hated classes where students got to chime in. They started "seminars" at my undergrad college as soon as second semester of freshman year. As if I was paying umpteen thousands of dollars to hear what some pretentious 18-year-old had to say about, well, about ANYTHING.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 09, 2013 01:44 PM (pj6Nr)

334 A dead thread  walks into a bar.   The bartender says nothing.   

Posted by: polynikes self proclaimed king of walked into a bar jokes at December 09, 2013 01:44 PM (m2CN7)

335 Truck Monkey 277 - thanks I get worried when Ace goes of Twitter. If he Breitbarts, we are f-ing doomed

Posted by: Erik at December 09, 2013 01:44 PM (LPklz)

336 Like "Uncle-Daddy."



I kid, I kid.

Posted by: . at December 09, 2013 01:45 PM (pj6Nr)

337 330 My last night working before I go on vacation. It'll be good to try to get away from the craziness. Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 05:39 PM (Tx68O) Have a wonderful vacation!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 09, 2013 01:45 PM (HVff2)

338 Once you're a 'mama', you're always a mama.
When you become a grandmother...your name is simplyadded to 'mama'...making you, "Mama Sarah", for example.

With dads, it is 'Papa'-something.

Maybe it's a southern thing.

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2013 05:42 PM (+SY5G)

 

 

-------------------------------------------

 

 

Maybe in South Oklahoma.  In North Oklahoma it's still  grandma and grandpa.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2013 01:45 PM (Tx68O)

339 Wheatie - that sounds quite sweet

Posted by: grammie winger at December 09, 2013 01:45 PM (P6QsQ)

340 Here's what Hersh alleges:

The administration buried intelligence on the fundamentalist group/rebel group al-Nusra. It was seen, Hersh says, as an alarming threat by May, with the U.S. being aware of al-Nusra member able to make and use sarin, and yet the group – associated with the rebel opposition in Syria – was never considered a suspect in the sarin attacks. "

Now tell us, just how stupid do you feel? I mean, you have to feel pretty stupid at this point. Like really stupid.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 09, 2013 05:18 PM (B0gqn)


I said at the time, syiasly, you guys, I did, that it made far more sense for the rebels to be the ones using bio-weapons than Assad.  He did not need them he was winning.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Weary and Wary at December 09, 2013 01:45 PM (kXoT0)

341 Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 09, 2013 05:44 PM (pj6Nr) She has to give a presentation on COI, she's... shall we say very prochoice. You see where this is going. (She's much older than 18.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at December 09, 2013 01:46 PM (a8eFL)

342 Theyah's too much consumin' goin' on out theyah!

Posted by: Zombie Ernest Hollings at December 09, 2013 01:46 PM (Dwehj)

343

This MacGuffin has been thoroughly spatchcocked.

 

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2013 01:47 PM (mTyi3)

344 Can someone check if there's a new thread? :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:48 PM (M8OWQ)

345 And report back if there is.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:49 PM (M8OWQ)

346 Where the hell did this 'meemaw' and 'peepaw' crap come from?

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2013 01:49 PM (mTyi3)

347 Ruh Roh..... Obama care is... CONTATIOUS!!! Went to look at the BLS data for how many people are Employed (vice unemployed)... Database unavailable...

Posted by: Romeo13.. at December 09, 2013 01:49 PM (lZBBB)

348 Unless it's a CAC thread.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:49 PM (M8OWQ)

349 New one...

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Weary and Wary at December 09, 2013 01:50 PM (kXoT0)

350 Well done. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 09, 2013 01:51 PM (M8OWQ)

351

No newd yet.

 

Soona...it's not really an Oklahoma thing at all, my family hails from Tennessee, Arkansas and Louisiana.

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2013 01:51 PM (+SY5G)

352 Ooops, yeah...there's a new one.

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2013 01:53 PM (+SY5G)

353 Income equality will be here soon. It's on its way right now. And when it gets here, it will be really, really cool.

Posted by: George R.R. Martin at December 09, 2013 02:12 PM (F3nFt)

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